Is nothing sacred anymore?

When did Dan Rather start posting at Democratic Underground?
 

and they're saying Parlock had access to a union painter's political shirt before getting to an Edwards meet-n-greet that was only announced the day before his arrival?

He's diabolical. Right.

Why isn't this thugs face a bloody mess by now?

Assaulting a 3 year old girl ??

Par for the course from a lib I guess.

Quick, call CBS, I'm sure they can find someone to authenticate that the photo shows the son.

Holy Cow! This guy has ten kids! The oldest of them are in their 20s and late teens, and are serving in the military/guard.

I wouldn't piss off a guy with that big of a family, especially in Appalachia.

"Mr. Hatfield, meet Mr. McCoy & Sons."

I emailed the union shown on the guy's shirt. I expect an email back soon stating their position...

[crickets]

So they attack this man while he's there with his little girl. That shows a level of depravity that is second only to...wait a minute.

Is sharing the same standard of "bravery" the reason that the LLL are so supportive of the ROP?

It's becoming clearer now, and some caffeine will make it clearer still.

And if Republicans tore up Democratic signs at a Republican rally, well THAT would be censorship and all that, right?

Yeah, political dissent is only allowed when you're a noble Democrat. Bush supporters who disagree with them are "Rethugs."

I didn't leave the Left, the Left left me.

#5

And if it's determined that the family photograph is photoshopped, then it's the questions raised in the photographs that are important.

'Mr. Parlock, answer the questions...are you a rable rouser?'

// exit dan mode...

Isn't it obvious? That 3 year old is going to grow up to be a Republican. Therefore, they have the right to exterminate her now. If they buy that argument for the PLO-Arabs murdering Israeli children, why not in this case?

Liberals claim to be the compassionate ones, yet they continue to engage in victim blaming.

Charles, please note my post about China backing Iran on nukes, admitting nuclear cooperation.

That red (state) diaper, bourgeois baby is betraying the revolution. It's never too early to start re-education.

Slightly OT

Also these "protestors" are suppported by very mainstream democrat's:

Notice in the inset photo that this "Girl" is being given a lei by J. Kalani English, the hawaii state senator who once said he didn't know what good Govenor Linda Lingle could do visiting Iraq ( since she was a jewish woman.)

[Link: mauinews.com...]

Maui girl arrested at GOP convention cheered by Maui Democratic Party
By EDWIN TANJI, City Editor
KAHULUI ­ An Olinda woman arrested after police broke up a protest at the New York City Public Library on Aug. 31 was cheered Wednesday during a Maui Democratic Party rally to protest violations of civil liberties during the Republican National Convention.

Summer Starr, 21, the granddaughter of a former Hawaii Territorial legislator and Republican Party chairman, said she has been spurred by her experience to become more actively involved in politics and even run for public office.

She had gone to New York to participate in protests over the Bush administration’s environmental policies, she said. None of the events in which she participated involved violence by or against police officers, she said.

But in being arrested for some alleged violation, and being held for two nights – first in an old bus barn and then in a New York City jail – for what is likely to be the equivalent of a parking ticket, she said, “I felt a betrayal.

“I was astonished, taken aback,” she said of the Democratic Party rally in her honor. “I had no idea I could have become a symbol. I think it’s a sign that people are looking for something to latch onto that can change what the government is doing.

“I’m not a radical, and when something like that can happen to me, people are responding.”

But she also said she had not gone to New York to protest the Republican Party. A graduate student in political science, Starr is also a Buddhist believing in nonviolence.

“The bad thing is I would not want anyone to think I’m against the Republicans. I wanted to protest Bush and his current agenda, not the Republican Party,” she said.

I think that, amongst leftist, the prevailing belief isn't so much that "they deserve what they get so" much as "Any Republican and/or Independant showing up at a Democratic rally must be a troublemaker. Either they came there with the intention of starting a fight to get media attention or they're there to try to infiltrate the Dem ranks.

Basically, the moonbat crowd over at DU, Daily Kos, etc are of the belief that a Republican at a Democratic rally is there for no other reason than to take the spotlight off them. And we all know how the Democrats react to others stealing their spotlight.

Please note: interviewed on the Glenn Beck radio show, Phil Parlock categorically denied that the person in the photos holding a piece of a torn sign is his son.

Discovering the thug's name should settle it. Any info on that?

{spit}

Just realized, from the same article:

Starr’s father, Hugh Starr, an Olinda businessman, said he supports his daughter’s actions and noted that his family has had a long connection to the Hawaii Republican Party.

His father, Russell Starr, was in the Territorial Senate in 1949, when he was a representative of the employers in negotiations during the longshore strike that was one of the turning points in the economic development of the islands.

Summer Starr’s maternal grandfather was a fighter pilot killed in combat, he said.

“So many people think, you’re a protester, you’re a radical, you deserve it. Nothing could be further from the truth,” he said.

He also questioned the validity of some claims of violence against New York police officers. In one incident reported nationally, a police detective allegedly was beaten by a protest crowd after being knocked off a scooter and knocked unconscious during a rally by the Poor People’s Economic Human Rights Campaign on Aug. 30.

...and the little girl is crying because she was just assaulted by her brother?

Hmmm...'kay.

So some think that the prick on the left is actually the little girls big brother?

Kick his ***ing ass anyway for being willing to do something like that to his sister just for political gain.

I find this whole thing appauling. It realy doesnt matter if this guy is a rabble rouser...what the hell does that mean anyway??? He goes to Democratic functions and holds up Bush signs??? Oooo big f'ing deal. Freedom of speech is not rabble rousing...

This is NO WAY excuses the thug who TERRORIZED a 3 year old. Words cannot describe how I loathe that guy, and the lady screaming at him from behind while the poor girl cries her eyes out. Cowards, f'ing bloody cowards...

What has the left become?? The PW's at the protest in NY got their signs torn down and physically threatened for not f'ing GOOSE STEPPING behind the socialist of so many of them, and now it seems that even a 3 year old isnt safe when pushing the "evil" right wing message by holding up a damn sign.

Wake up you good Democrats that remain...your party has been hijacked by Fascists, Socialists, and wanna be Communists...get out and come to the conservative side.

FYI: THIS DICKHEAD mentions this blog as "little green snotbubbles", with the usual invocations of Hitlerian imagery.

What is really frightening about this picture is how well is portrays the level of hatred emanating from the left that is directed at conservatives and anyone else that does not accept the new leftist manifesto.

#25:

I love how the "snot bubbles" dickhead presents as "evidence" the fact that this guy has a ~20-25-year-old son with dark hair, and the union goon is a ~20-25-year-old son with dark hair! What are the odds?!?!?!

I wonder if Dan Rather reads this blog now, thinking to him self, how can I get even?

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I CAN believe my eyes in this photo. My brother is a union electrician who is brainwashed by the democrat rhetoric. The recession in his eyes is bush's fault. forget about 8 YEARS of freaking tax increases and 2 planes that crashed into the financial hub of the world and 1 plane that crashed into the pentagon and another plane that crashed in the middle of no where!!! NO, THESE FREAKING MORONS BLAME EVERYTHING ON BUSH!!! if ignorance is bliss, these idiots are in paradise!!! UNIONS are WORTHLESS TO THE PRESENT ECONOMY. they were good for the period after the great depression, but we're in a different world now. there's a lot of good people in the unions out there today, but the image is unfortunately ruined by the bull headed illogical irrational people who become the mouthpieces for these unions. I USED TO WORK FOR THE ELECTRICIANS UNION. ITS POLITICS AND LAZINESS. YOU GET HALF THE WORK OUT OF THE PEOPLE FOR TWICE THE PAY!!!

sigh, can't spell dumb without the DU

#14

Now that is very worrying. We don't want to see China sticking their moses into this one.

...and Dan Rather "categorically denied" that the memos were a fraud.

Look, this can be cleared up easier than the memos. Have the guy post clear, recognizable pictures of his older children. I would hate for this to be a setup (well, I'd hate for it to be true, too), but at this point in the season I am not willing to take anybody's word at face value.

You guys know how images can be manipulated. You see those pictures of "palestinian" kids being attacked by IDF, and counter with pictures that more accurately explain the situation. The guy looks mild-mannered enough that it seems odd that he would get attacked serially.

I'm not saying this is a sham, I'm just saying that it should be explored with the same level-headed skepticism with which the memo story was.

Aargh! Why am I wasting my time reading DU? In between the gloating, like they have some amazing conspiracy uncovered, they insist that the union guy looks just like Parlock & is his son, and that Parlock was inciting trouble. So, it's OK (even patriotic) for them to shut down cities, intimidate citizens, etc., for their protests, but one guy can't quietly hold a sign at one of their rallies? And their "detective" work is laughable--they think this is their Ra^thgate.

And it's been said before--Thank you, Charles, for not allowing images in the comments.

Anyone found out who the guy with the union shirt on is yet ?

Funny, there were scores of young moonbat children at the protests in NYC two weeks ago, but I don't recall any of them being assaulted by Bush supporters.

This whole incident has gotten me thinking. How long has the left "owned" protest? Most of us just go about our business, working and raising our kids. Yes, political things bug us from time to time, but we've got other things to think about and just want to be left alone.

Well, guess what. We're awake now - things have changed and the stakes are high. Good people are standing up and saying "ENOUGH!" and the other side DOES NOT LIKE IT. We're supposed to be stupid sheeple from Dirtville, remember? We're honing in on their territory, saying things they don't like.

The one good thing about this is that true colors are showing - on both sides. An incident like this makes it pretty obvious which side values freedom of ideas.

OT:

Are you a communist rebel leader or the head of a secular terror organization in a remote, forgotten corner of the planet? Are you having trouble recruiting impressionable youths, analphabets and unemployed miscreants? Are you underfunded and is the international media ignoring your noble cause to overthrow an established, democratically elected government? McIslam might be for you!

Join up with McIslam today! What are ya waiting for!?!
:P

[Link: www.spectator.se...]

I hope the little girl put up a fight before that dork in the hat ripped the sign from her hands. I can also hope that she was to much of a fight for him. Wonder if her had to have help in getting the sign away from her. I know he had to have help in tearing it up.
Now that we all know what a man he is what's next on his list?

Im still watching this one - I doesnt wash with me.

I dont think even DU types would mess with a little girl this early in their revolution...

#29

I am in the burgh now, and WE ARE GETTING POUNDED by rain. River is not going to be pretty today...

#33 BH:

Look, this can be cleared up easier than the memos. Have the guy post clear, recognizable pictures of his older children.

I think the simpler way is to ID the guy in the union t-shirt. This didn't take place in New York City. Half the town must know who that person is, whether he's a real Thug For Kerry or the guy's son. And the picture of his face is crystal clear.

The DU are just grasping at straws while they sink. Someone throw them a lifesaver...like an IBM typewriter.

I agree with you all, anyone who terrorizes a 3-year-old girl damn well deserves to be shot and hung.

But it's a little hard to believe that this same guy has been physically assaulted by Dems for the past three elections now. The story is over at rising-hegemon, at the link which Abu has so kindly provided us with (Little Green Snotbubbles wasn't the point of the post). Yeah, sure, there might be a bunch of insane frothing Dems who terrorize Reps, but targeting this guy three elections in a row? I don't think so.

Oh, and the point about the thug prolly being her brother? That was to emphasize the point on the whole thing probably being a set-up, not to say that her brother is brutalizing her for his own political gain.

"Serial Disrupter"? That sounds like the anti-liberal particle cannon that KKKarl Rove and I invented.

Just in case you have any respect for Wonkette:

We love this serial sign-mutilator story -- staged child abuse is so much more interesting than studying fonts.

Reported as staged, of course, as fact.

all the comments from LLL about this gentleman and his little girl make as much sense as John Kerry's argument at the experiation of the AWB that terrorists would forego the purchase of fully-automatic AK-47 with grenade launchers attached to come to America now and buy their semi-automatic look-a-likes to wage their campaign of terror againist America and the World.

just a thought...if this guy was planning on staging such an event like this for PUBLICITY why in the blue hell would he have his son be the one playing the union thug role??

Wouldnt that be easliy checkable?? If publicity was his goal then it is reasonable to believe that questions about his motivation would be brought up and maybe his son. There is no way he would be that stupid...so these people out there claiming that this was his son that did this, I feel, are WAY OFF BASE

The main post on the DU site was a reprint from an article about the 2000 election, in which the same guy went to a Gore rally with some Bush signs, and he was attacked there too. And the poster describes this as Parlock "pulling the same shit" four years ago. What am I missing here? It's the Dems who "pulled the same shit" four years ago. The article he reposted only demonstrates that this guy is brave/crazy enough to support Bush at Democratic rallies, and do it repeatedly, and that the Dems are stupid/violent enough to attack him and tear up his signs, repeatedly. Does this reflect badly on the Parlocks, or on the Dems?

I'm going to have to go against the prevailing wisdom of my LGF brethren and sistren on this one.

That pic has seemed to good to be true from the git-go. Something about this stinks.

Doesn't excuse ANYBODY from making the little girl cry, but I'd let this one go.

Listen, this sort of thing happens everywhere. Why are the actions of this one lout extrapolated to mean all Dems 'terrorize' (nice turn of phrase) three-year old girls.

I'm off to the the Yanks-BoSox game tonight (rain permitting). Grown adults are going to make plenty of three year olds cry at the Stadium tonight, and, though they won't wear their political affiliations on their sleeves, I'm sure they won't ALL be liberal. There will invariably be some knucklehead with BC-04 underwear pouring beer over a kid's head.

My point: humanity sucks.

I'm not sure I understand what relevance Parlock's son has to all this.

Remember, the second photo shows the perps union buddies ushering him out of the spotlight.

It is much more likely that these union guys all came together, know one another, and are protecting one of their own, rather than having been so easily fooled by Parlock's "son" in a union t-shirt.

OT - Putin Accuses West, Chechen Rebel Vows More Attacks

Basayev, Russia's most wanted man, said he was behind the wave of recent attacks in Russia -- including the school siege, the near-simultaneous downing of two passenger planes and a bomb attack in Moscow -- in which well over 400 people died.

In his statement posted on rebel Web Site [Link: www.kavkazcenter.com,...] Basayev warned that violent campaign for an independent Chechnya would continue.

"We are not bound by any circumstances, or to anybody, and we will continue to fight as is convenient and advantageous to us, and by our rules," he said.

But he denied Putin's charges of links with al Qaeda leader bin Laden. "I don't know bin Laden. I don't get money from him, but I wouldn't turn it down," he said.

This is spreading accross the liberal blogs. They're so jealous over the attention Charles, Powerline, Allah & the rest are getting, they'll seize on anything. They just keep digging.

Even if Parlock is a publicity hound, ("all I know is my gut says 'maybe'"/futurama) that doesn't excuse what the Kerry supporters did, and their co-dependent enablers at the DUMB are only showing their own pathetic viciousness.

And I suppose that daddy told his little girl to cry on cue.

What a crock.

#43 nightintheruts

Personally, I'd just like to throw them a grenade, sans pin, and be done with it. The DUmmies and the Kosian brothers seem to have, in the weeks since the RNC and the Bush bounce, come completely unhinged. And Ra^thergate has simply accelerated that, as they now find their propoganda arm (the MSM) in trouble of finally being unmasked as the 24/7 anti-Bush crowd it is. When you have to start manufacturing evidence to support your side of the story, you've already lost.

Should Bush keep or even widen his lead going into October, the Left is sunk. And they know that, which is why they're making their last stand now.

Don't think he was doing it for publicity so much as to get sympathy for the Bush campaign. And as to why he's getting his son to stage it, well, there're plenty of people who'll believe whatever they see without the proof behind it, so if the news says that Kerry protesters are beating up 3-year-olds, that's what they'll go with. IOW, no one might really bother to find out that it's his son at all.

This guy makes a pretty persuasive case, based on past articles from the Charleston Daily Mail, that Parlock makes a hobby of taking his kids, and pro-Republican signs, to Democratic events. I'm not saying that some union stooge didn't rip up the kid's sign, but I think, at minimum, Dad was really really hoping it would happen.

#46 Jefe:

Just in case you have any respect for Wonkette:

Never had it, never will. How can you repect someone who writes her posts in whatever way will insure her invites to the best DC parties?

#52 GC

A liberal blogger has pointed out that Parlock's son looks like the union thug. Implying it was staged.

If you think that's bad, I had one person say Parlock is evil for "putting his daughter in the situation" (namely excercizing his civil right to freedom of speech).

I had someone tell me that Parlock is the equivalent of Hamas using babies as human shields.

The insane lengths the left will go to in order to justify evil!

IUSTUM NECAR REGES IMPIOUS!

MAKKAH DELENDA EST!

[Link: moderncrusader.blogspot.com...]

#60 Doppel

Precisely.

#59 evilstorm

IOW, no one might really bother to find out that it's his son at all.

Or at least you hope no one bothers to prove it isn't his son.

A three-year-old girl wouldn't have been born in 2000! MORONS!

OT: I did some digging on the ueber-Lizard's recording career, since he seems to be too modest to go into too many details:

[Link: entre_nous.typepad.com...]

There's a few Charles Johnsos in the music business, but it turns out the LGF host is credited as Charles "Icarus" Johnson. Here is his (probably incomplete) discography (primarily with Al Jarreau, fusion bass monster Stanley Clarke, and fusion jazz keyboard legend George Duke):

[Link: ubl.artistdirect.com...]

My goodness. Another reason to "carry the man on our hands" (=Dutch expression for "to hero-worship somebody").

#61 The Lone Platypus

I agree, and it's a sad commentary on DC that it works so well.

Fox News : Scott Johnson on now. Just mentioned Charles and LGF.

Look, it doesn't matter if the photo is fake or not, or if the incedent was staged or not. What really matters is that story is true.

I'm not saying that some union stooge didn't rip up the kid's sign, but I think, at minimum, Dad was really really hoping it would happen.

Translation: he was asking for it wearing a sexy Bush - Cheney sign and stuff. Hey, I know, why not blame the thug who did the act?

OT, but, just to lighten the mood. I just went out to the truck to retrieve my lunch, now I have the remnants of Hurrican Ivan all over me. While my lunch was reheating in the microwave, I saw this (fairly cute) guy accidentally drop his Blackberry and then reflexively hackey-sack it under the Pepsi machine. It was pretty damned funny.

What the hell? There are a lot of people here assuming this was set up? "Evilstorm" -- didn't you bother to read what Charles posted? It wasn't the guy's son!!!

C'mon, folks, get a grip! A couple of weeks ago, a union-thug Kerry supporter put a choke hold on a "heckler" at a Kerry speech here in Cincinnati. Go back and watch the Protest Warrior video from NYC. Go talk to the NYC policeman who was beaten senseless by a leftist mob.

Of course it is more than possible for people to be harassed at more than one rally over a four-year period! Look at the photos and video at [Link: www.protestwarrior.com...]

It is ROUTINE to get shoved and harrassed or have people try to snatch signs at a counter protest. It is par for the course. I believe it absolutely.

And why is it so hard to believe that a thug would snatch a girl's sign? Anyone remembering the baseball fan who sailed over a chair and snatched a flyball out of a kid's hands RIGHT THERE ON CAMERA a few months back?

We listen to LLL's talk about all the harassment they must endure from crazy right-wingers, but one boo-hoo about the same from the otehr side, and it must be a conspiracy!

By the way, isn't that a story about a drunken Kerry supporter assaulting and harassing a Bush campaign worker on a plane over there at [Link: www.drudgereport.com...]

Or is that simply not possible because Leftists are such good, kind people?

If someone could yell at me "Your father's a pig, you're a pig, and pigs deserve to be slaughtered" when I was five-years old, solely because my dad was a cop, then I can believe this photo.

And by the way, look at BOTH photos of the incident. If that little girl has just been thwacked by her big brother, those people deserve an Oscar.

No freaking way.

The Union guy is standing there with a big smile on his face and the rest of the family is stoically staring forward, except for the kid who is bawling, not in any way like a girl who has just had her toy snatched by a big brother.

This one is going to be easy to prove either way.

And while we're talking about overly enthusiastic, potentially violent Kerry supporters:

LI man arrested in air rage case

#66

No, he wasn't pulling it with his daughter in 2000, but he was telling the same sort of story nonetheless.

#65

Actually, I'd like concrete proof of who that guy is, no matter which way it swings.

To quote (with expansion) from my post on the same topic at Wizbang:

Some people have criticized the father for putting his chid "in harm's way".

The problem is this: in a civilized society, no one should *expect* that handing your child a sign to carry is putting them "in harm's way".

So we need to ask ourselves, *why* is it going "in harm's way" to carry a Bush sign near Kerry-supporting union members?

Answer -- because they are thugs.

And thus, we find the root cause of the problem -- Democratic thuggery.

(I say 'democratic' because anybody who pushed and shoved a 3-year-old child at a Republican rally would, 99.99999+% probability, get the shit pounded out of him -- by other Republicans.)

A liberal blogger has pointed out that Parlock's son looks like the union thug. Implying it was staged.

Ooohhh. Thanks. So Parlock's 3 yr old daughter and 25 yr old son were both in attendance?

First time I've checked in on LGF since 11 AM yesterday. It looks like I have some reading to do (and over lunch). A lot is happening fast.

I've seen a couple of Kerry supporters at Republican events lately. All Republicans do is try to surround the Kerry signs with Bush signs. Very non-threatening. No physical contact of any kind.

I heard a caller to...I think it was Laura Ingram...from a Bush supporter who showed up at a Kerry event in the Twin Cities. She had rocks thrown at her as she walked to her car.

#72 Furious J

Was that our Ivan? 30 seconds of downpour, now the sun's out.

on Fox's Dayside with Linda Vester says that yet anothr document from CBS has been found false.

17 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Right. The leftists aren't hypocrites, they're just hypocrites.

Curious to me that they were laughing about it and blaming the father BEFORE they even discovered their conspiracy. (And I lived in political terror for 8 years starting Jan 1993.)

At least 1 poster at the DU board, though, holds not the father to blame.

It doesn't matter who was holding the sign. As much as we hate it, Bush supporters have a right to be there. Kerry has OPEN rallies for a reason. We don't have loyalty oaths and we don't check to make sure all the people at the rallies are Kerry supporters.

Now, if he was being loadly disruptive, police could easily escort him away. But, what I don't like is the idea of people GRABBING things from others. It's a big pet peeve of mine. That too, when they have a little kid with them.

Political preferences aside, I like this person. Also sounds like they might be a parent. It is curious how quickly most of DU blames the father and also points at events of Liberal protesters being detained, or semi-violently silenced. I haven't seen all there is on those stories, but there are some consistent themes in them.

1) The protest is NEVER silent.
2) The event is seldom a public rally, more frequently a private gathering.
3) Along with item 1, the protest is not just vocal, often violently vocal.
4) Any peaceful attempts by those around (I discourage that) or PROPER AUTHORITIES to handle the disruption is forcefully resisted.

The security guard asking the person to cease their disruption doesn't work. Trying to quietly escort them out doesn't work. No excuse for private citizens taking hand with hair pulling or kicking. Then again, it was a Kerry supporter than put a protestor in a powerful enough headlock as to strain the protestor's neck. If a protest is silent/peaceful and not violating a private event (which this was not), then leave them be. If they are being disruptive, let the proper authorities handle it (provided you don't need to defend yourself).

As for the union flunky, well, that rates up there with what happens here during Pro-Life events where a peaceful gathering is holding signs. (Many children old enough to know what life, babies, and abortion mean, if too young to have that birds&bees lecture.) Why do the Pro-Abortion crowd see it appropriate to shout obcenities and throw condoms at these children?

Considering the opposing mob, I would not have wanted to oppose this person with force. As Ron White said, "I don't know how many of them it would have taken to whip my , but I knew how many they were going to use." (Something like that.) If it came to self defense, I'm afraid I probably cannot throw punches as well as Iron Fist. However, last time I had enough weights to test, I could leg press about half a ton. That can put quite a bit of force behind the steel-toe of my size 18 boots, and I've never considered kicking to be fighting dirty. They cannot chase you with a broken leg, kneecap, or left testicle.

Signing out for now, your local Jack of all Trades.

But it's a little hard to believe that this same guy has been physically assaulted by Dems for the past three elections now.

What is so hard to believe about that?? I have been to a few rallies on campus over the past 5 years working here, and let me assure, they are by no means peaceful.

They do not tolerate differing opinions much...if you leave, they wont do much but scream at you...but if you stay and hold your ground you get your signs ripped down and physically threatened. This ISNT AN ISOLATED INCIDENT..this happens at most LLL protests/marches/and anywhere there are union thugs. And believe me I have seen quite a few, as many in here probably have too.

I find it a very reasonable possibility that this guy, if he showed up at other rallies, and stood his ground, was harrassed or even shoved around a bit. This, to me, IN NO WAY impugns his credibility. Maybe he just wants to show them they cannot push him around, it is very hasty to just ASSUME he is a professional "rabble rouser".

Another photo of this child and her father being assaulted.

#74 Go Armytramp!!! That gets it said!!!

OT: I just heard Charles Johnson's name dropped on FOX again ...

ON TOPIC!:

If you scan through the comments in the DU threads about this topic, you will notice a few people who say things like "I don't think we should do that to a kid" or "I don't think its cool to project that kind of image."

Those are the people who will be Republicans in 10-15 years.

#71 Beagle: No, that's not what I meant at all. Nothing justifies tearing up someone's sign and intimidating them, especially a child. What I meant was that Mr. Parlock seems to have seized on this tactic to draw attention to himself while simultaneously making the Dems look like thugs (which, admittedly, isn't hard). He probably thinks it helps the Republican cause.

OT

I am disgusted by the sheer glee the LLL are taking in the fact that the situation in Iraq is bad, and has the potential to going to get worse. They are so blinded by their hatred of Bush that they can't see they are fueling insurgents and Islamic fundamentailists around the world, who think they can leverage the discord and division in the US to influence the election and get a terrorism-weak administration in power.

I was listening to Al Franken on the radio on the way into work today who was positively giddy that the forcast for Iraq is bad to worse. (By the way, I am convinced that he gets paid for each time he says 'liar")

Living in Seattle, a LLL breeding-ground, I thank Charles every dat for Little Green Footballs, so I have people I can relagte to!

#60 doppelganglander

I'm not saying that some union stooge didn't rip up the kid's sign, but I think, at minimum, Dad was really really hoping it would happen.

Assume the worst, that Parlock did indeed hope this would happen. In the end, what's the relevance? It still happened. Democrat supporters attacked him and ripped up his sign. And that is a) wrong and b) illegal.

(I'm not accepting as plausible the accusation that Union Thug is the guy's own son, based on nothing more than the fact that he happens to have a male child of roughly the same age with dark hair. If that's the standard of evidence required to "prove" something, then I guess I'm Ben Affleck.)

So all these people in the photos are plants?
They all look complicit in what is happening, as they swarm around them in the second picture.

It's a fake...That's why the president of the IUPAT just apologized for the thuggish behavior of one of his members.

IUPAT Apology

Assuming this is a setup, shall we say that the incident, while fake, conveys essential truths? :-)

#73

I read what Charles posted, and I'm not believing it until I have proof. If the guy really was faking it, d'you think he'd admit that it was his son?

#74

I'm perfectly willing to believe that a thug would snatch a girl's sign. Humanity sucks. I'm just not willing to believe that this same guy gets harassed, gets on the news, gets publicity and sympathy and whatnot, over three different elections in 3 different rallies.

How the heck can you tell if the little girl is bawling like her toy was just snatched, or if she's bawling because someone just hurt her or something? She's upset. Thassit.

There's drunken Kerry supporters, and then there're drunken Bush supporters--I stick with the tale of the Rep youngster who was kicking a protester whilst she was being held down.

Leftists have never been good with directions. It has been mentioned elsewhere that the boy to her left is her older brother, which makes sense. Look at his clenched fist. I bet he did want to pound someone, poor baby.

I guess the confused soul at DU thought "her" in the caption meant "you in the chair reading this caption."

#88 doppleganglander

It isn't entrapment if one is predisposed to do the crime. If waving a sign of the opposition is now off limits, I'll be sure to crack the next loudmouth LLL disrupting a Bush event with a 2 x 4. But it's not, so I won't.

More union thuggery

http://minnesotademocratsexposed.blogspot.com/2004 /08/union-thugs-attack-college-republicans.html

Apologizes to union members on the list, but I used to live in a heavily unionized city. The union workers do quality work (like the construction trades) and are fun in the bars, but they are thugs.

This type of behavior is more common then you'd think. In some towns there's no checks and balances as the city leaders and local newspapers are pro-union.

Wait, before I leave, I have to download pictures of the union guy and the son, photoshop them a little to blur details, then run the pictures through morph. Maybe I can submit the results to CBS.

Is there some kind of dubbing a new lizard? Starting to feel a little scaley here...

50/PF,

I'm going to join the dissenting voices here.

1^st and foremost, agreed: NOTHING excuses the thuggish behavior of making a little girl cry.

But I do think it looks like a propaganda piece, with the Dems only too willing to play along. This man was NOT simply walking down the street minding his own business; he was not at a concert or a ballgame; he was not simply sitting quietly in the airport waiting for his plane. No, he purposefully went to a pro-Kerry rally and held up a pro-Bush sign.

And let's watch the hyperbole here: nobody beat up the three-year-old girl or her father. Snatching a sign away and tearing it up is an incredibly mean and childish thing to do, and it may even legally qualify as "assault", but it's not an act of violence. It simply is not.

This little girl doesn't know anything about Bush or Kerry, bless her heart, and should NOT have been put in this situation. The father has scarce grounds to play the part of "aggrieved victim" (just like a LIBERAL!) in a confrontation he helped to create for himself.

And if the little girl was made to cry, the father bears some responsiblity for this.

#60 doppelganglander

I'm not saying that some union stooge didn't rip up the kid's sign, but I think, at minimum, Dad was really really hoping it would happen.

Bullshit.

That LLL asshat you linked to is making a desperate attempt to excuse the horrid behaviour of his fellow Leftists. If this had happened to a Kerry supporter at a Bush event he'd be spitting all over himself in righteous indignation, well, like the Federal case they're trying to make about the "assault" of the arrested protestor at the RNC.

way way OT

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#93 Colt

Assuming this is a setup, shall we say that the incident, while fake, conveys essential truths? :-)

You would be accurate. ;-)

I'll repeat what I said earlier. The thug needs to be sued for battery in civil court. Whatever you may say or think about the father, the little girl is absolutely innocent. Tearing the sign from the child's hands is battery, an intentional tort. Let's see how the thug likes answering to someone his own size.

The boy with the blond hair to her left is her brother. The thug with the cap and the piece of sign in his hand to her right is not her brother. He's the member of the (say it with me now):

INTERNATIONAL UNION OF PUNKS ATTACKING TODDLERS

But the prevailing belief in the fever swamps seems to be that if you show up at a Democratic rally with a “Rethuglican” sign, you deserve anything that happens to you. Or to your children.

Better yet, you should expect to be assaulted, so if you've got your child with you, you should be prosecuted for child endangerment. It's as though they have a right to assault you for disagreeing with them.

OK, groups to keep your children away from: Gangbangers, Jihadis, Molesters, Junkies, Democrats...

From the link I posted above,

"A Republican family attended the rally to show support for the Bush-Cheney ticket. Phil Parlock, a Barboursville resident and strong Republican, said his family was accosted by some Kerry supporters.

"We do it peacefully and quietly to show respect. And, we don’t want to get kicked out of anything," Parlock said.

After standing on the tarmac with the Kerry supporters, Parklock and three of his children moved down to the airport road near a parking lot exit.

With Parlock were sons Phil II, 21, and Alex, 11, and daughter Sophia, 3.

Parlock said a Kerry supporter yanked a Bush-Cheney sign out of Sophia’s hands, making her cry. As they stood along the road later, someone threw the ripped-up remains of the sign at them as they passed."

#85 justdanny:

Another photo of this child and her father being assaulted.

That photo was not on that website earlier this morning, and does not appear in the print edition of the paper. They must have been swamped with complaints about a coverup.

Moonbats don't need proof that something actually DID happen to fuel their delusional fantaises, only that it COULD HAVE happened, i.e. some machine in 1972 COULD HAVE produced the magic CBS memos, the child-assaulting goon COULD HAVE been Parlock's son.

Life is so simple once you've had the Cool-aid.

#100 Asher Abrams

1^st and foremost, agreed: NOTHING excuses the thuggish behavior of making a little girl cry.

So why ARE you excusing it?

And if the little girl was made to cry, the father bears some responsiblity for this.

#90 The Lone Platypus

Are you starting sh*t once again ?!?

*just kidding :-P

in the left wing fever swamp (Democratic Underground), the claim is made that this AP photograph of a three-year old girl being assaulted by Kerry supporters was “staged” by a “serial disrupter

Let's see, the guy attacked and frightened little girl and there was not even one person in the self-rightous crowd of left-wing Kerry's chearleeders that shown active displeasure with this guy, or tried to quiet the girl? Nice try by DUmbo crowd, and quite telling sign that they do not realise that it is not exactly the act of this nasty individual that counts but the agreement of the surrounding crowd with his actions and lack of humanity toward little girl (displayed quite flagrantly on the DU site as well) that give leftists away as a bunch of plain fascists.

#89 mattvatl

Oh, the Left is utterly loving the fact that over 1,000 troops are now dead and the violence is only increasing. They, in the same breath, condemn Bush for sending 1,000 men to die while at the same time criticizing Bush for not sending more troops (per the demands of the military). They have no pity for the families of those that died doing what they pledged to do, only crocodile tears for those that go to the media demanding that Bush be "dethroned" and nothing but dark hatred for those families that voice support for Bush and the WoT.

The Left only "supports the troops" when the deaths of those troops can be used as leverage for political gain. Any other time, the average Leftist only sees a soldier as a modern-day Waffen SS trooper who is being supported by money that would be better spent on Welfare and other social programs.

The Union just issued a public apology.

Think they'd be doing it if they didn't recognize their own members?

Actually, snatching someone from someone, tearing it up and throwing it at them IS an assault. Maybe it's different in your state, but here, it's assault.

In the second photo his poor son is being subjected to union underarm stink. That's just wrong. I'm amazed they are mugging for the camera after the mugging. But the Nazis took pictures of everything also.

The International Union of Painters and Allied Trades believes in the fundamental right for civil discourse, freedom of speech and activism to support our candidates and issues.

What happened in Huntington, West Virginia yesterday is an affront to everything we, as a union, pride ourselves to represent. We extend our apologies to the Parlock family, especially Sophia, for the distress one of our overzealous members caused them.

I have personally taken steps to address this issue internally, and will take immediate disciplinary action to the full extent allowed under U.S. Department of Labor regulations and the constitution of the International Union of Painters and Allied Trades.

It is my hope that this incident reminds all of our members that every last citizen in this country has the right to express his or herself freely. Not one single one of us has the right to tell them otherwise.

General President James A. Williams
The International Union of Painters and Allied Trades

[Link: www.ibpat.org...]

Apparently IUPAT believes it was one of their own and something happened...

Email must have worked wonders...

The digital brownshirt, pajama bloggers strike again...

hooah!

I'm not sure why people are calling this a rally. From the caption it sounds like this was just a bunch of people who gathered at an airport to welcome Kerry.

It doesn't sound like this was a Democratic rally.

#110

I think his point is that the thug and the dad were both in the wrong.

#93 Colt

Assuming this is a setup, shall we say that the incident, while fake, conveys essential truths? :-)

LOL

#97 masterofnone

The Republican guy in the photo is wearing a giant Flip-Flop. Hilarious. LOL!

OT- why Kofi Annan doesnt want to look into oil for food scam?
Fox news: Did oil for food help al Qaeda?
Probably a typical Fox story- the documents are real but the story is not accurate.

More Right wing evieeelll...buwhahahahaha...
it is all Rove's idea. That _dastardly_ Karl Rove began planning this guy to be a victim in 2004 way back 1996...
QM

If the story is true:

Democrats always said in the ninety’s
"Its for the children"

I guess they meant it.

I personally find it appalling that "Silent Non-Disruptive Protest" is treated by Democrats, like this.

A little while back Kerry gave a speech in front of a group of soldiers. At least two consider him to be unfit for his actions after the Vietnam War and to protest they simple stood up and turned their back till he was finished.

These types of non-disruptive acts of free political speech are exactly what the founding fathers meant in the constitution.

As a Father of two grown children I look at these Democratic hooligans and spit on them for their act to a defenseless three-year-old child who will remember this for the rest of her life.

I am a conservative Republican and I had the chance late last year to meet at a book signing President Carter. I looked at Carters Presidency as a complete and utter failure. However He was our President and I was honored to meet him and shake his hand.

Maybe what these people need is to go back to the first grade and get a refreshure course on manners.

I read what Charles posted, and I'm not believing it until I have proof. If the guy really was faking it, d'you think he'd admit that it was his son?

If it was staged, would the union president have apologized and promised to pursue disciplinary action?

(See #92)

They all look complicit in what is happening, as they swarm around them in the second picture.

Democrat counter-protester swarms?

66,

If she was born in October or later, then she hasn't had her fourth birthday yet, and most folks (I think) would consider her a three-year-old.

#101: Again, not excusing the union thug's behavior. I only linked to that site (a link I got from the Corner, by the way) rather than repeat the quotes he pulled from the WV newspaper. I agree, that blogger is clearly an asshat making excuses for bad behavior.

Taking a Bush sign to a Kerry rally, or a Kerry sign to a Bush rally, is clearly a first amendment right and protected political speech. And I agree, a Bush supporter at Kerry rally is far more likely to get his ass kicked than vice versa. All I'm saying is, I think Mr. Parlock has done this sort of thing before, knew it was likely to happen again, and rather enjoys the publicity.

the keft is very dangerous, their behaivoir in NYC was proof positive that they are reactionaries not visionaries

In the background of the pic, one of the Kerry supporters is holding his sign upside-down.

Literate much?

very, very, slightly OT - Democrat leftie intolerance? Nooo Never!!!

How the heck can you tell if the little girl is bawling like her toy was just snatched, or if she's bawling because someone just hurt her or something? She's upset. Thassit.

Are you f'ing kidding me??? She was upset because some asswipe ripped up her damn sign!!!

I'm just not willing to believe that this same guy gets harassed, gets on the news, gets publicity and sympathy and whatnot, over three different elections in 3 different rallies.

As I stated in my other post...I have been to many rallies here on campus, and have SEEN ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS people accosted like this man and his daughter were, just for not agreeing with the unruley mob. This happens all the time from the tolerant, compassionate leftists on campus.

So this guy went to democratic rallies and held up signs...did THEY HAVE TO ATACK HIM?? No. This guy may be looking for publicity, but he CANNOT FORCE SOMEONE TO ATTACK HIM (unless you are ASSUMING that all other attackes were staged as well). So he went to a few rallies and wouldnt back down, that doesnt mean that this claim is fraudulent...I need to see some more evidence to believe that.

For me, that pciture seems pretty moving and pisses me off something awful...

#100 Asher Abrams

And if the little girl was made to cry, the father bears some responsiblity for this.

Also, if the little girl gets raped, she bears some responsibility for dressing so provocatively, eh?

I think that history shows this is a guy who takes his kids to protest against the party he does not like, and often finds trouble. You know what? He has EVERY right to take his kids to such political events. He is teaching his kids the importance for standing up for what you believe. He is reaching them REAL citizenship. Is there a chance of trouble doing such things? Yes, of course. Let me be clear on the next part, THAT IN NO WAY EXCUSES ANYBODY ASSAULTING A 3 YEAR OLD! Such actions, even if they were exactly what dad wanted are inexcusable.

I take my daughter to many political events, and have protested against both the Dem's and GOP (I have little use for either party) and have been treated rudely by both, but neither party has ever done anything to intimidate one of my kids. (The only group that has even done that were foaming at the mouth anti-abortion crusaders who were promptly admonished by more respectful colleagues).

No matter if this guy has protested 10,000 opposition rallies, nothing excuses attacking children.

One article mentioned that Parlock brought his 11-year-old son along with him as well. It looks like that might be him to the left of his father, with the blond hair. They do look alike.

Perhaps the LLLs are a bit 'confused' about which guy is the 'son' in the picture. After all, as seen by the guy in the back right of the picture, some liberals can't even hold a "Kerry-Edwards" poster in the proper orientation! LOL! Not so bright...

So LLL say this is a accurate picture of a false event.??? or a false picture of a accurate event?? false event ..accurate picture..is there a lawyer in the house.

First I voted for sign ripping. Then I voted against sign ripping. It is seared in my mind.

#97 masterofnone

The link doesn't work. I get a server not found message.

It's at times like this that I like to go to jibjab for a good laugh. I know it's been around for a while but it's still fun. This Land...

statement from painters union

#132

VGP.

If the attacker is his son and it was a set-up, then this man is a nutjob!

This is the reason I don't take my kids to rallies. I've thought about it, and my daughter, who's 10 would love to go. She wanted to debate with the guy we saw in downtown Philly who wanted us to "help get George Bush out of the White House", but I've seen them turn nasty when questioned, so I wouldn't let her do it.

#133

Amen brother...

#124

It's late and I'm especially slow, sorry sorry.

But as to your question: the guy is thought to be a union member. It could simply be a pro forma apology, since he's wearing the shirt and all, like the kind the GOP made w/re the protestor who got kicked.

Furious J, ...it wasn't me. Unless you're fairly cute. ;)

hee hee hee

j/k

Hey you know, just cause a guy takes his kids out to see Dad show the dems what he thinks doesn't mean he should get attacked !

Sorry, no time to read all the posts, so I am sure this point has been made, but... the left champions civil disobedience and pays unending lip service to freedom of speech and diversity and all that, and THEY complain about "crushing of dissent".

What a crock.

That they would even suggest that this man has no right or was in any way inappropriate to be where he was, doing what he was doing, totally belies just about everything they pretend to stand for regarding these issues.

It's all theatre to them, and they won't allow anybody but their own a moment on the stage.

The Huntington (WV) Herald-Dispatch must be owned by Viacom (or Robert KKK Byrd). It gives a glowing report of Edwards at the airport, but barely mentions the union thug sign incident, and uses the AP photo which does not show the IUPAT logo on the tee.

Herald-Dispatch story: [Link: www.hdonline.com...]
Editors contact list: [Link: www.herald-dispatch.com...]

It takes a village to raise a child. But only one moron to make her cry.

More leftist logic:

1. Counterprotesters who show up at our demonstrations are "rabble-rousers" who deserve whatever happens to them. But when we counterprotest Republican rallies, we're Brave Voices of Dissent, and any attempt to prevent us from physically disrupting somebody else's political rally is just plain fascist.

2. When faced with Republican rabble-rousing, the only possible course of action is to physically assault the culprits and terrorize their children. This is perfectly natural, and we really had no other choice. I mean, come on, we couldn't actually let this guy go on peacefully expressing his opinion, could we?

(Take note, DUers who might drop in here; I'm 1) (still) a registered Democrat, and 2) a guy who would have identified myself 3 years ago as a "liberal".)

BTW: There are quite a few posts at DU condemning the action of snatching the sign, but most of them simultaneously exonerate him by attacking the father for having the daughter there. Do they want it both ways?

One even blames the father AND anti-Kerry activists.

I am sorry but I would have NEVER brought my daughter to that event, lets take also into consideration that many anti Kerry activists wanting to start trouble would be there

Just trying to follow to type a copy of that made my head hurt. That quote from her second paragraph when she starts her post "No one is acting like that that I have read".

No one is acting like that.
It is the father's fault for taking his daughter there.
He should have known better that there would be anti-Kerry activists present and looking to cause trouble.

Non Sequiter?

You people on here condemning the father for taking his children amaze me.

This is America people !! This is not some ass crack third world heathen culture of violence and evil.

My god !!! How can you condemn a man for the involvemnt of his family in a free democracy !?!?

So we are supposed to assume any event which is proKerry will be a violent mess !?!?

We are supposed to accept an forgive the ignorance of Kerry supporters bcause they somehow have greater rights and immunity from law and order !?!?

Back the fuck up and think about what you are saying.

You are excusing kerry supporters as a sort of super class of citizens who are allowed to act this way and anyone who is assaulted by them, including children, should expect it and not complain.

Itys like you all have fallen under some sort of stockholm syndrome and are by default in agreement with these asshats.

#112 norar

Let's see, the guy attacked and frightened little girl and there was not even one person in the self-rightous crowd of left-wing Kerry's chearleeders that shown active displeasure with this guy, or tried to quiet the girl?

I think the black woman shouting in the background is voicing her protest of the thug's behavior. But that is just my impression.

Let's review. What did the father do 'wrong'?

1. He went to a public place.
2. He exercised his First Amendment rights.
3. He brought his children with him.
4. He's a Republican.

I think #4 is what really chaps some people. Free speech for me, but not for thee, is the Democratic Party in a nutshell. Look at college speech codes and the administrations' willingness to bring down the cops on any conservative voices. All one need do is reverse the party affiliations and the Democrats would be screaming fascism and brownpajamas.

#100 Asher

You are very wrong. Forcefully taking something out of someone's hands is both an assault (causing an apprehension of immediate bodily harm with the apparent ability to inflict it) and a battery (uninvited touching - your rights to be untouched extend to anything you're holding, including in some instances, your car).

You are also very wrong in that, the thug did not stop at taking the sign away, at least from some reports. He then ripped up what he had and threw it in their faces.

Throwing something in someone's face is an act of violence, and is usually interpreted as such. In the case of the eyes, it also has a proximate possibility of causing damage to the eyes (remember the big tough NFL player whose eye was permanently damaged by a ref's weighted yellow hankie a couple of years ago?).

Ahhh right...LLL,

Where's the link to the actual article that states he's a serial antagonist (not that it matters to me). Don't quote the GD post, show the actual article in pdf. Don't ratherize the issue.

My point: humanity sucks.

And you're not helping any.

There is no excuse for the actions of these Kerry supporters. Period.

Unfortunately it appears that this kind of behaviour is the norm out of them.

These "people" are the true face of the Democratic party as it exists now. All the sane people have left and all that remains are a bunch of thugs.

#131

Assuming that an asswipe really did rip up her sign. My point is that you can't tell what happened to her just by the way she's crying.

And I know that rallies often turn violent, but why him all the time? He gets assaulted, gets on the news, gets sympathy from everywhere, he just seems to be supremely unlucky (or lucky, if that's how you'd rather look at it).

From #139's link:
"What happened in Huntington, West Virginia yesterday is an affront to everything we, as a union, pride ourselves to represent. We extend our apologies to the Parlock family, especially Sophia, for the distress one of our overzealous members caused them."

Question: how can a union thug be overzealous?

Is it like the Mafia code from The Godfather where you are supposed to leave the women and kids alone? "Sorry Mrs. Cacciatorre, we didn't mean to whack your kids when we were gunning down your rat bastard husband."

QM

IUPAt statement:

The International Union of Painters and Allied Trades believes in the fundamental right for civil discourse, freedom of speech and activism to support our candidates and issues.

What happened in Huntington, West Virginia yesterday is an affront to everything we, as a union, pride ourselves to represent. We extend our apologies to the Parlock family, especially Sophia, for the distress one of our overzealous members caused them.

I have personally taken steps to address this issue internally, and will take immediate disciplinary action to the full extent allowed under U.S. Department of Labor regulations and the constitution of the International Union of Painters and Allied Trades.

It is my hope that this incident reminds all of our members that every last citizen in this country has the right to express his or herself freely. Not one single one of us has the right to tell them otherwise.

General President James A. Williams

Okay, good for IUPAT.

If President Williams' sentiments are any indication they are moral gaints comapered to DU, and Wonkette the Ass-Queen of Powertown.

Parlock has been vindicated! The union admits it was their guy!

Statement from the General President Regarding the Events in Huntington, WV

The International Union of Painters and Allied Trades believes in the fundamental right for civil discourse, freedom of speech and activism to support our candidates and issues.

What happened in Huntington, West Virginia yesterday is an affront to everything we, as a union, pride ourselves to represent. We extend our apologies to the Parlock family, especially Sophia, for the distress one of our overzealous members caused them.

I have personally taken steps to address this issue internally, and will take immediate disciplinary action to the full extent allowed under U.S. Department of Labor regulations and the constitution of the International Union of Painters and Allied Trades.

It is my hope that this incident reminds all of our members that every last citizen in this country has the right to express his or herself freely. Not one single one of us has the right to tell them otherwise.

General President James A. Williams
The International Union of Painters and Allied Trades

I think his point is that the thug and the dad were both in the wrong.

Because free speech and assault and battery are interchangable, eh?

#147 antiquebob:

The Huntington (WV) Herald-Dispatch must be owned by Viacom (or Robert KKK Byrd).

Close. They're owned by Gannett. Just as bad!

Didn't know if anyone noticed this, but look at the dork in the back holding his Flip-Flop/Trial Lawyer sign upside-down!

Hi you great lgf..

I'm brand new here, (kind of retarded), but a
64 year old vet that experienced this 'brave'
sort of action/reaction while at Cornell U. in
the late 60's.

I think it was '66, (but maybe '65), when I
tried to park my car for a class at the Statler Inn.
(Yep, I'm a hotelie/ well, was one I guess)

and to park, I had to 'interupt' a "peace march"
by the SDS in order to acheive the only parking
space on Campus.

A marcher or two needed a gentle 'nudge' with
my fender to get TFO out of my way, and
the SDS tried to have me expelled for 'attempting
to mow down a ''peaceful protestor".

Back then I was defended and 'cleared' by some
right thinking bystanders' accounts, but today I'm
not so sure I would have s'caped:-)

btw...after I parked, I invited any of the mf's
to a little dance right then and there...no takers

Hope I've followed necessay protocol here and
now that I have a bunch of 'off-time' I get to
read each and every one of you beauties!

Diz

#151 justdanny

Well said. I am getting more pissed by the minute at those who should know better, but are still making excuses.

But I do think it looks like a propaganda piece, with the Dems only too willing to play along. This man was NOT simply walking down the street minding his own business; he was not at a concert or a ballgame; he was not simply sitting quietly in the airport waiting for his plane. No, he purposefully went to a pro-Kerry rally and held up a pro-Bush sign.

How incitingly provocative.

I'm with you dude, that kind of action just can't be tolerated.

That little girl deserved to have her sign ripped up.

And they should have beat up the father for endangering his daughter in such a reckless manner.

Dissent is VERBOTEN!

#162

Say what? Did I say anything like that? If so, clarification: it's definitely the thug's fault if he bullied a girl, but it's also partly the dad's fault for taking his kid to a potentially-dangerous/violent situation as well. Neither action excuses the other.

#139

Great...but what's the cowards name?

Note the imbecile in the background who is holding his sign upside-down, to symbolize the downward movement of the Kerry-Edwards campaign.

These "people" are the true face of the Democratic party as it exists now. All the sane people have left and all that remains are a bunch of thugs.

Yep: Michael Moore front row center beside Jimmy at the DNC. I'll say no more, but you speak for myelf and occassional reader (#149) and probably hundreds of others on this site right now alone.

THANK YOU CHARLES.

154/Shaka,

Thank you for the clarification. The throwing part does add to the gravity of the incident; also, if he forcefully took the sign out of her hands, then he placed her in danger of falling down (since she would naturally cling to it) which could have caused her serious injury.

#100 Asher Abrams

Assault is, by definition, a violent crime. So is battery. Both are among the crimes that can be brought to suit both criminally and civilly, I believe.

And I know that rallies often turn violent, but why him all the time? He gets assaulted, gets on the news, gets sympathy from everywhere, he just seems to be supremely unlucky (or lucky, if that's how you'd rather look at it).

Three times in, what, eight years is not "all the time".

Stop trying to excuse the thuggery. It's disgusting.

#97 masterofnone -- "More union thuggery

[Link: minnesotademocratsexposed.blogspo...] t.com/2004/08/union-thugs-attack-college -republicans.html "

Now this looks more like the real face of serious union political violence. The Union President apologized unequivocally for the conduct of the thug. Egads, two crisp meaningful apologies in one day! I think this puts a lid on the WVa story. The truth is that Union leadership can't control every idiot in the brotherhood. If they rip this guy a new one within their rules, and think that will happen (if for no other reason than that this episode is poison to the Kerry campaign, especially when Kerry's bloggers triumph over it), this story is done. It is counterproductive to the rational elements of the Democrat Party and they don't need union yahoos in union shirts proving to America that Kerry is a negative poser with nothing to offer.

Back to Minnesota.

Now that is more the style I've seen. Guys not appearing to be wearing union Ts (not making it easy for onlookers to link them to a union, so long as the victim knows where it came from) just having fun beating the snot out of political opponents, especially conservative college kids. This could be the sort of planned bust up of the opposition, the sort that never draws an apologies. It's planned, not spontaneous -- the union thugs show up in numbers, pick their moment and then wade in.

Charles, this story might merit more blogging time, because it is possible that when the facts come out, this story will reflect the truly ugly side of leftist union politics.

I'm calling Bullshit.

The guy's managed to get himself in the papers several times, including his children in the process in the past.

He has two sons who look like the guy in the Union Shirt.

The guy in the Union shirt has the same nose as Purlock.

He also doesn't have a Union hat.

You can check my past posts if you care about my political views and think it affects my position.

I think it was a dirty trick engineered by Purlock on his own and a horrible thing to involve his children in.

I'll look for other reasons to be angry at the Democrats, but this is not going to be one of them.

#139, K. I hope every one checks out your link. If nothing else it shows thst the head of the painters union is more responsable than Dan Rather and CBS New, CBS, and Viacom combined. The Union statement puts DU in it's proper perspective as well. The DU types are looking to start a bloody confrontation just as the looneys and leftists and communists, both psudo and real, that Kerry and his friends hung around with precipitated the campus riots of the 60s and 70s.

I am a resident of Huntington, WV and have been a quiet lurker here just reading since this whole Dan Rather business started. Since this issue has cropped up I thought I might add my two cents since this is local for me. I can give you some insight to why Parlock is a Bush supporter and why I think he did no wrong, nor would he be involved in any 'set up'. This is just my opinion but I am including a couple of links from local newspapers to show some of my defense of this guy.

[Link: www.herald-dispatch.com...]

[Link: content.gannettonline.com...]

My point is he is a real estate guy that wants to be involved with schools and worries about his children in the war and supports bush... only sounds conspiritorial if you live somewhere else... It would be like a regular member of any of your communities caught in the same photo... would you think a conspiricy? I dunno. I just know I have went to a couple of Kerry/Edwards events here in WV with my family and I would hate it if I got caught in a picture like that and everyone around the country was questioning my motives. I go because I am registered Independent, and want to find out if my current support of Bush can be swayed. Maybe that is different, but I do support Bush and have some gear with me when I go. I do get yelled at. I wonder if they stop to think I am going because maybe if the other side laid out a better plan I could be converted? I would think they'd want as many people there as possible to hear their candidate's views and maybe swing some folks in this _important_ swing state! Instead they push away anyone who isn't wearing their colors. Which to this voter, shows their _true_ colors. Inclusive? Not.

-TS

We're cool, Asher.

Sorry if I jumped too eagerly and hard. Seems that debate lately (not just here) has been more heat, less light.

Both sides always welcome at LGF, so long as there's evidence and argument to back it up.

#165 Dizzy26

Welcome to LGF Diz. Don't worry, you did just fine in popping that cherry. The first time is always hardest, but after that, they come easy.

#174

I'm not excusing the thuggery, I'm doubting that there WAS any thuggery. I said in my very first post, any bastard that beats on a 3-year-old girl should be shot, but I'm not convinced that that happened.

And no, three times in 8 years isn't a lot, but three times in three opportunities spread out overy eight years, is.

Say what? Did I say anything like that? If so, clarification: it's definitely the thug's fault if he bullied a girl, but it's also partly the dad's fault for taking his kid to a potentially-dangerous/violent situation as well. Neither action excuses the other.

The father's actions require no excusing: he was breaking no laws. The "potentialy violent situation" was created by the goddamned thugs, not by the father.

Why are you trying to excuse this crap? Why do you keep insisting that "protesting while Republican" is some sort of crime?

#176 AB

Judging by the Union's apology it seems the perp has been identified as a union member. Sorry it that disapoints you.

The sneering-smiling thug is kin to all terrorists.

#17 Targetpractice...
Again they display what they themselves would do. In all cases, if you reverse what the LLLs accuse others of believing and doing, you get close to the real truth of their own tawdry, nasty, terrorist-supporting agendas.

#24 song_and_dance_man
Just so.

Shaka beat me to it and explained better. My reflexes are getting old and I should have been gone 1.5 hours ago now. Any LLL lawyer want to file suit over blog addictiveness? I don't see any medical warnings.

#151 justdanny, #166 freedomsound-

What should we call it when people are excused for their actions on the basis of low expectations of behavior for their political party/ideaological outlook?

Partyism?

I'm afraid on this story we are falling into "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" trap. This man had no business whatsoever taking a three-year-old to a political rally in this season of virulent Bush-hating. I question his fitness as a parent as well as his documented practice of deliberately attracting thugs and idiots for publicity. The Democrats may a preponderance of Igors in their camp, but conservatives are not without a few and this character is one of them. Let us not be Ratheresque, for chrissakes.

But I do think it looks like a propaganda piece, with the Dems only too willing to play along. This man was NOT simply walking down the street minding his own business; he was not at a concert or a ballgame; he was not simply sitting quietly in the airport waiting for his plane. No, he purposefully went to a pro-Kerry rally and held up a pro-Bush sign.

So, the hordes of Bush haters protesting at the RNC, waving all sorts of pro-Kerry/anti-Bush signs, they were just there for a ballgame or waiting on a plane, right? Does left have any clue how clueless they sound sometimes? How hypocritical they are? Anyone to put forth the above statement is so blinded by hatred that all rational thought has been long, long -- bring out the tape measure -- gone.

#168

potentially-dangerous/violent situation

So Democratic rallies are dangerous situations for republicans and little kids with republican parents?? Why would that be?? Cant they control themselves.

On anther note, if this guy was yelling obscenities and bascially causing a massive disturbance I would say that he was inciting it, and was partically to blame. But come on man, he and his daughter were JUST HOLDING A SIGN...if he was causing a rukus I havent heard it reported yet, so if I am in error here someone help me out...

I'm not excusing the thuggery, I'm doubting that there WAS any thuggery. I said in my very first post, any bastard that beats on a 3-year-old girl should be shot, but I'm not convinced that that happened.

Because the union's apology, and the AP and newspaper reports Just Aren't Enough, eh?

And no, three times in 8 years isn't a lot, but three times in three opportunities spread out overy eight years, is.

Just how exactly do you know he's only been to three Democrat events?

#168 evilstorm

Since when is a political rally supposed to be a dangerous/violent event?

It's an OPEN rally. He had EVERY right to be there, EVERY right to bring his children, EVERY right to hold up a Bush sign, and EVERY right to not be assaulted.

This is America, ferchrissakes. Don't make excuses for criminals.

The IUPAT President needs grammar lessons..."every last citizen in this country has the right to express his or herself freely" - from APOLOGY to 3 yr old Sophia - HISself?? The apology: [Link: www.ibpat.org...]

# 176 AB

Fair enough. The truth will eventually come out. I looked at the guy's ears, compared them with the family photo, and they didn't seem to be Parlock family ears, but I agree with you, if it's a demonstrated set up, we should know.*

It's harder matching facial physiognomy (sp?) than fonts. But I expect the truth will out. And your opinion exists w/o regard to where you stand on the issues. You make some good points.

* OK, to open up a huge backlash - Doesn't everyone in WV look alike, anyway? Humor

#187 Massachusetts Gothic

I question his fitness as a parent as well as his documented practice of deliberately attracting thugs and idiots for publicity.

Could you post a link for your source?

#187 Massachusetts Gothic

Are you telling us that the democratic process should be ceded to the virulent left, simply because they're such assholes?

Just when I thought that this story couldn’t possibly inflame me more than it already has, I followed Charles’ link to that maniacal hate-fest over at the DU. They have no shame, honor, or decency, have they?

I can think of few things in this world that are more repugnant than the sight of an adult attacking a child, and that’s precisely what this mindless union boor did. There simply is no way for any sane, and *genuinely* compassionate person to justify this sadistic assault. No way! And the only response that the wild-eyed zealots at the DU can muster in light of this heinous attack is to manufacture some outlandishly puerile & thoroughly implausible conspiracy theory regarding Mr. Parlock’s past political activities?

The folks on the Left would have us all believe that compassion, caring, and nurturing are their sole province. This heinous assault on an innocent child, coupled with the insensitive, blood-thirsty ravings of those at the DU on this matter clearly proves otherwise.

#176, AB. After careful review of your post and checking with other experts, we have come to the conclusion that an enema would help you clear up your thinking. See # 139 and link.

Diz, welcome... nice post ... liked.

OK, question for the group: When I'm playing Halo and the Covenant and/or the Flood are coming at me... I frequently assign LLL's to the different enemies, like I pretend the Covenant Grunts are hippies (and start the Cartmanesque chant "Hippies... Hippies everywhere... They say they want to save the world, but all they do is smoke pot and smell bad...") I like to pretend the big fat ones the carriers(the ones that explode and have little crawling skulls inside) are Michael Moore. I pretend these guys are Al Franken, Alan Colmes, Kos, Maureen Dowd... And I enjoy blowing them away.

Is that wrong?

#196
John Q Infidel:

Exactly.

#187 Massachusetts Gothic

This man had no business whatsoever taking a three-year-old to a political rally in this season of virulent Bush-hating.

What about the hundreds or thousands of children taken by their parents to protest the RNC in NYC a couple weeks ago, did those parents also have "no business" taking their children?

But, b-b-but...

#198 -- So long as it's just make-believe, it's OK.

What the heck is wrong with taking a child to a political rally JUST because you disagree with the speakers ideology?? So if you disagree with the speaker you are in danger?? This is america, that should NEVER HAPPEN!!! What the hell has happened to political discourse in the society??

So I should never go to a Democratic rally because I should reasonably think that violence will be perpetrated on me due to my differing opinion?? WTF???

#168 evilstorm

but it's also partly the dad's fault for taking his kid to a potentially-dangerous/violent situation as well. Neither action excuses the other.

Perfect nick for someone who thinks a public place is a dangerous/violent situation. Only a leftist thinks violence is lurking under every act of political speech.

#186 our gal sal

I don't know, but I'm sure the blogosphere will come up with an appropriate term ;)

#168

That's how the nazis came to power. Intimidation. FY.

This is going to be (b"n) my last comment on this thread. I'm not going to respond to people who can't express their opinions civilly, but I'm willing to listen to reasonable folks who might disagree.

My previous post is quite explicit: when I say I think the father bears some of the responsibility, I mean just that - I don't mean that he bears all (or even most) of the responsibility, so you cannot possibly construe this to mean I am excusing the act.

You don't willingly take your kids into a high-crime area. You and your children have the right to expect to be safe from crime, but the reality is that not all places are going to meet this expectation. I see this as a personal responsibility issue.

(I'm not going to get into shoe-on-other-foot speculations, but I'd like to think that Republicans would be more tolerant of a solitary, silent, well-behaved counterprotestor in a pro-Bush rally.)

With all that said, I think there's an important issue about our right to speak freely, even in a place where our views are unpopular. If any good comes out of this - beyond the well-deserved thrashing that that thug is going to get - hopefully it will be a consensus on the rights of individuals to register opposing views - even at political rallies.

Uh...while I think it was reprehensible for the Union thugs to assault the guy and his daughter, why did the father let them get away with this? Why's he just standing there?

I guess he was alone and didn't have anyone to hand his daughter off to.

#100 Asher ... I read all of the posts prior to this and I must admit, I have to agree with alot of what you said. While I'd like to take DNC signs and shove them where the regular attendees suns' doin't shine, I think that the father who brought his young children to a gathering like that most certainly should regard the well being of his children higher. Any idiot with an ounce of sense should have expected that parading around amoungst a buch of moronic dhimmies at one of their gatherings was not a safe and prudent thing to do. That still doesn't excuse the violent behavior of those responsible, but no way would I have brought a child of my own to a loserfest like that... course my son would have beaten the shit out of anyone that tried to do that to a sister of his.

#206 Asher

Amen. And a similar (but more circumscribed - Charles does pay the bills) freedom of expression and debate on blogs.

179/Shaka,

Thanks.

You don't willingly take your kids into a high-crime area. You and your children have the right to expect to be safe from crime, but the reality is that not all places are going to meet this expectation. I see this as a personal responsibility issue.

Uh. A gathering at an airport (airport?!?! Where in the hell is security more tight these days? Should you feel the MOST safe at an airport?) of mostly democrats to you is the same as a high crime area?

Uh. Hmm.

/speechless

#206

Your point is well taken, but I feel a lot of the people in here dont think that Politcal Events are comparable to "high crime areas".

Given he was assailed at other events, sure, I will concede that he might have used more caution. But the fact that we have sunk this far that you cant bring your child to a politcal event just because you disagree with the speaker is amazing to me.

Massachusettes Gothic

Your name explains it all.

Nuanced dipsh*t.

"Well she was wearing a short skirt when she went downtown with her friends, so of course some of the responsibility is hers for being raped."

Getting into a fight with union thugs is like getting into a fight with the mafia. In fact, it's often exactly the same. In any case, you mess with one bean, you fight the whole burrito. If the father had defended his daughter's honor, there would have followed death threats, vandalism, and possibly worse.

Michelle Malkin weighs in. The Left Is Depserate For a Hoax

It's pathetic that lefty bloggers would smear Parlock and his children so quickly without bothering to check. Rathergate must be really getting to them.

Slightly OT:

Putting the Smoking Gun Memo up top for the duration is a great idea!

I, for one, never get tired of looking at it and can now recite it like the Hail Mary... Great work, Charles.

#187 Massachusetts Gothic

"This man had no business whatsoever taking a three-year-old to a political rally in this season of virulent Bush-hating."

Last time I checked this was a free country. Involving children in the Democratic/political process is what all parents should be doing.

The Democratic Party leadership needs to come out and denounce this type of cheap thugish behavior, but that won't happen until the current leaders are rejected and humiliated in this years election.

I think we can at least agree with NDMNTX and Asher that children just aren't safe at donk gatherings.

#97

I know what I am gonna be for halloween!

#206

The issue is intolerance and intimidation. We have the right to peacefully protest.

If someone gets killed for driving into a high crime area, you don't blame the victim for being there.

Your giving ground to the tolerance of evil. But it seems to be in your nature to back down from an argument, just as your running from this thread.

#206 Asher Abrams

I don’t mean to give you short shrift, but if you want to debate this topic civilly, as you maintain, then can you please tell me why you equate taking a child to an airport tarmac with the clearly irresponsible act of taking one to a high crime area. It’s not the same thing, is it?

However, if you are conceding that Kerry supporters on an airport tarmac can just as violently savage as crack addicts craving their next hit in an urban slum, I might be inclined to agree with you in light of this malicious attack on an innocent child.

Thanks Big, and Furious...

Feel duly welcomed and at 'home'.

Lots of Good posts here huh? I live

on the left coast now...Thinking of moving to WVa

I'll keep 'em briefer :-)

D

The larger issue here is the polarization of our democratic process. If one is intimidated, physically or verbally, from quietly attending an oppostion party's public gathering, with or without signage, then where do we go from here? The democratic process should allow us, as individuals, to hear opposition speakers so that a personal informed opinion may be made, instead of just listening to the talking heads in the MSM.

One appropriate comment (somewhere, there's just too many threads and comments now) made mention of the Weimar Republic. That is a very scary connection to this event, IMHO. When thuggish behavior silencing the right of individuals to attend a public political gathering occurs, The Republic suffers. It is not a road which US politics should ever take. Too many citizen-soldiers have given their all to prevent just such abominable behavior.

Speaking of intimidation, how many people have gotten the message that putting a Bush bumper sticker on your car can be hazardous to your paint job?

You are all right in the the guy had every right to go to a public place like this looney tune gathering. But we're also talking about not really rational people that he's going to be surrounding his kids with too. Most certainly it shouldn't be that way, but in today's society amongst the dimmicrats, it is. I'll bet you that half of the dhimmies in attendance of that event aren't the slightest bit rational in any of their short sighted thought processes. While we all understand that if someone supporting JF'nK with signs and kids in tow at a GWB rally isn't going to be exposed to the lunacy like they would be at a Kerry rally, don't endanger your young kids by surrounding them with the irrational, looney liberals at a JF'nK rally.

#206 Asher Abrams

I was planning on taking my daughter to Disney World this Sunday, but with the Tigger gropping thing, I'm afraid I'll be labeled a bad parent because I took her to a "high risk" area.

#224... no shit and that's precisely why I don't have anything like what I'd really like to have on my vehicles.

The ears could be the mother's - where is she?
Dan Rather could do a 60 Minutes II story on Parlock, using the new CBS discovered technology of remote photographic DNA analysis, "proving" from the photo that father and IUPAT thug are related, as the DU maniacs suspect.
Of course, IUPAT has now apologized, admitting that the thug was in fact a union member, so I don't even think CBS could rescue this one for Kerry ...uh, well...maybe...

#206 Asher Abrams

You don't willingly take your kids into a high-crime area.

That's pretty funny considering the thousands of protestors who took their kids into NYC to protest the other week. I know you are just making an analogy, but is this airport from the photo a higher-crime area than the big apple?

Their signs say a stronger America begins at home. Does anyone else see the irony here?

i wonder if bill clinton feels HER pain...just when you think the dems have hit rock bottom, they dig deeper.

#194 Gargamel

[Link: rising-hegemon.blogspot.com...]

It's a leftist web site and I don't even remember how I linked to it from this side of the blogosphere, but that's not the issue. The site has three newspaper articles from local papers about previous altercations involving Parlock at Democratic campaign rallies. If the news accounts are authentic, then Parlock is a jughead (at best) and negligent (at worst) for taking his toddler into the jaws of Democrats in a frenzy.

It's the kid that matters or is that somehow too sophisticated a concept for football players to grasp?

I can just see the MSM running with this story to besmirch this web site and its owner as well as Michele Malkin, Powerline, and all the rest who are running out and falling on their sword. I can see it and it ain't a pretty sight.

#224

Just heard a story about that on the local talker station this morning. Some guy put a Bush-Cheney sticker on his car a few days back, when he went out to work one morning he found his car keyed to hell, and his windows all busted out.

This happened in the Democrat/Union stronghold of Pittsburgh BTW...hmmm wonder if it was a unionite that couldnt control his anger at the mere sight of Bush/Cheney as in this story today...is this a new syndrome we have stumbled onto today??? hmmm

#224 ErnieG

Speaking of intimidation, how many people have gotten the message that putting a Bush bumper sticker on your car can be hazardous to your paint job?

I will not put political stickers on my car. I want to put a Bush Cheney sticker on but my car is leased.

Gargamel

Sorry, I'm a newby. I'll try that link again ...

rising-hegemon.blogspot.com...] target="_blank">

212/MadSci,
221/JQI,
225/NDMNTX,

Thanks. I believe you understand my points and I think we are in general agreement. Hopefully this will lead to a higher standard of tolerance and civility at political gatherings.

#236 Asher

Hopefully this will lead to a higher standard of tolerance and civility at political gatherings.

Good God I hope so...

OT: But Pittsburgh is getting pounded badly by the remnants of Ivan...flood warnings everywhere...and damnit, my tires are so f'ing bald I am going to be hydroplaning EVERYWHERE :(

152 freedomsound

I think the black woman shouting in the background is voicing her protest of the thug's behavior. But that is just my impression.

She looks shouting at the father to me, according to the direction of her look.

What humane unionistas do do, and undoubtly so, is to thrust a poster into girls face trying to screen her. "Stronger America begins at home" when you shield a moron assaulting 3-years old girl from public scrutiny, you see.

People, join in on fighting against stifling Free Speech in the UK. This "Law against inciting religious hatred" will be used by Muslims to silence Freedom of Speech. Look here.

#232 Massachusetts Gothic

I was just curious to read about the details. I agree with you in the sense that I would not bring my kids (I don't have any yet) to a political rally where I would be acting as a counter protester. Living in NYC I have seen BDS up close and its scary.

This is not to say I excuse what happend to the little girl.

To those justifying the action against this man because he has been to opposition meetings/rallys before I offer this analogy:

Dont be outraged that Ghandi was assaulted because he has been beaten up at other protests.

Last time I checked peaceful oppostion was allowed in America and you shouldnt have to worry about getting beaten up for it!

The Trolls want to play "What's His History?" w/ Parlock.

Their turn:

1. Was the thug attending pursuant to Union direction?
2. Does the thug have a previous history of assault & battery?
3. If so, did the union know of thug's propensity to violence?
4. Did the union encourage/wink at aggressiveness?
5. Does the union have a history of encouraging or winking at overly aggressive behavior?
6. Does the Union's apology mean the thug was there as an agent of the Union?
7. Does the Union train rally attendees to destroy peaceful demonstrator materials?
8. Does the Union train rally attendees to respect other demonstrators?
9. [on & on @ $250/hr for several days + punitives + intentional infliction of emotional distress...]

This could get costly for that union. A good plaintiff's att'y might help. A successful one from NC will be available around the first of the year.

#232 Massachusetts Gothic

It's the kid that matters or is that somehow too sophisticated a concept for football players to grasp?

Oh yea and I forgot to add that saying stuff like this makes you sound like a jerk.

Thanks Charles for tip of the hat. In fairness I have to say that urthshu linked to it first, afaik.

i'm sure he got his ass kicked later in the bar by real dues paying union members,

This considered, if people could provide constant, but low profile, monitoring, I'd love to volunteer to park my car in a heavily kerry-signed neighborhood after plastering it with Bush stickers. Might be telling. Just let me up my insurance, drop my deductibles, and put insurance on my other car first.

Have to agree with the people noting that an airport tarmac and parking area are nothing like a high crime area. Closer to the question if you can feel safe from assault inside government offices/buildings.

Gotta love blogs. I think the past week has added 7-9 books to my must-read list.

BTW: Almost done reading Unfit for Command. Since it is obviously one-sided, I must ask. Have any of the claims in the book been reliably disproven?

Almost made a HUGE visual mistake. PIMF.

#168 evilstorm

Do you live in the US ?

but it's also partly the dad's fault for taking his kid to a potentially-dangerous/violent situation as well.

SO it is yopur opinion that pro Kerry events are not only "dangerous/violent situation"'s, but somehow excused because they are Kerry events ? The father was wrong because he knows beforehand that Kerry events are "dangerous/violent situation"'s ?

Really. Think over the implications of what you are saying here, said there. Not my words, yours. Think about it.

#176 AB

Wow !! Are you a US citizen ? Did you see the union apologized for the actions of their member ? So I guess a woman in a short skirt is an invitation to rape by your logic. Wow !! Just wow!!

#181 evilstorm

Excusing the thuggery is exactly what you are doing by putting the blame of the actions of a violent idiot on the shoulders of the victim. Once again, do you see a short skirt as an invitation to rape ?

#186 our gal sal

I think we should call it the end of the core of what makes this life worth living. If it is excusable to do violence against children because you support kerry for president, I do not want to live.

#187 Massachusetts Gothic

Do you live in America ? The US ? You are a free person in a free country and you really just said "This man had no business whatsoever taking a three-year-old to a political rally in this season of virulent Bush-hating." So what you are doing is excusing the violent ignorance of Bush Haters in favor of condemning an American for being a victim of evil ignorance.

And that whole 911 thing, guess those 3000 people should have known going to work in a country that is hated by terrorists would mean they are going to likely be murdered and the architect and developers and businesses renting space in those structures are to blame. Because sure the terrorists are bad and all but living when they hate you is so much more worng.

OMG !!! What is going on here !?!? If this thuig is reading this thread he is worshipping you. "Yeah !! tahts right !! its that god damn little 3 year old whores fault for holding that sign !!!"

#206 Asher Abrams

I'm speechless. You have successfully excused this ignorant thug in favor of removing the whole blame on him and put it on a free man in a free country who is protected by law against being assaulted.
So the father is guilty for the actions of the thug. I pray to god you dont have children.

#242 Grand Slither

Exsssellendt Pooiinnndt!

And the screaming woman behind the little girl is his daughter...right? Idiot DU

#243

It makes Massachusetts Gothic sound like a LLL troll.

heh...boys will be thugs :-)

got keyed at a Ralphs a few weeks ago, and all

I dare 'show' here in Anaheim is a W04 high on

my rear window...

Never occured to me the cause...

Hmnn wonder if my NRA membership sticker's

the 'trigger'... or perhaps my AA one, or

my AAA one hmnnn??

#118 evilstorm 9/17/2004 09:54AM PST

"I think his point is that the thug and the dad were both in the wrong. "

Oh, I see. So its "in the wrong" to attend a political rally?

How nice that you registered TODAY and left that little bit of bullshit with us.

My observations - the black woman looks like she may be yelling "Hey!" in protest of the sign ripping. In the second photo, it appears she is directly behind the father raising her hands toward the child. I think she may have thought the child was going to fall and rushed up to catch her. This would be a natural reaction if she were a mother, I think. I'm giving her a congratulations until shown she was acting otherwise.

The men do appear to be trying to get the guy in the union shirt out of camera range and I have a hard time believing that the union people there did not know one another. It is feasible they jumped to his aid simply because of the shirt, but if that is the case they will be making it known publicly that this man was an imposter very quickly. Or in a back alley somewhere, in which case the father should be doubly ashamed of himself.

The fact that the union itself issued an apology does not necessarily mean he was a member. They would issue that based on his wearing their logo. But they will find out who this guy is. Some unions may condone thuggery toward an adult crossing a picket line - none are going to condone it toward a child.

The younger boy's reaction in the first picture looks real, both the facial expression and body language. Is he a good enough actor to pull this off, if the man ripping the sign was his brother and he knew his little sister was not being "really" being mistreated?

The little girl's anguish is obvious and I do not believe it is acting. Granted, she would likely cry if her big brother snatched her sign away too. And then she would holler his name and start grabbing for it back, wouldn't she?

The only thing I can't quite figure out is the little brother's position and facial expression in the second picture. It's odd, "off" in some way. I'm thinking that he's being pushed against the railing, and that his expression is fear, but it looks wierd to me.

IF - the guy in the union shirt is the girl's big brother, then this thing was planned and staged. Both he and his father endangered and abused the little girl and all our anger should be directed toward them.

No... I will reserve some for the other union members who reflexively try to protect him.

#168 evil&stupid:

"...clarification: it's definitely the thug's fault if he bullied a girl, but it's also partly the dad's fault for taking his kid to a potentially-dangerous/violent situation as well."

This is the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA you fool, not some backwater Islamic thugocracy!

"If the news accounts are authentic, then Parlock is a jughead (at best) and negligent (at worst) for taking his toddler into the jaws of Democrats in a frenzy."

Man. I'm glad I don't live in the world you see.

Wait a minute...have we now discerned that anywhere John Kerry or John Edwards shows up is a high crime area that you should keep your children away from?

That settles it. Our children should be able to visit the White House unmolested.

Four More Years!

:-)

evilstorm (#118)

I think his point is that the thug and the dad were both in the wrong.

This is amazing to me, the lengths that people will go to to excuse bad behaviour. It's all about moral equivalence, isn't it?

damn this punk better hope that little girl is not zell miller's granddaughter

#232:

"...into the jaws of Democrats in a frenzy."

You registered TODAY to give us this "nuanced" bullshit?

About that Union Apology.

I can easily see the Union apologizing because they think one of their own did it, even if they're not sure, just to try to end all the bad press they're getting.

Sorry, but the Union apologizing is not proof that someone in the Union did it.

And the union guy still looks like his son.

And the father does have a history of bringing his children to events and complaining about getting harrassed.

I'm *still* calling bullshit.

Sorry if I'm not keeping to the party line here, but that's not what brains are for.

The union jerkoff in the pic has just made my sh*t list.
AND FOR YOU LIBS out there.. how the FUCK can you justify this? I think it's utterly repugnant of you to say "Well, she shouldn;t have BEEN there!" What about the RNC? According to that logic, you guys should have stayed the fuck away from New York! but see, we have this little thing called The Constitution.. you may have heard of it.
Regardless of this man's politics, or even why he was there, the union goons had NO RIGHT at all to assualt this poor little girl.

But It'd be real nice if Bush placed a phone call or wrote a letter to Sophie here to thank her for her support. It's sure as hell brighten up her day after this crap.

evilstorm (#168)

If so, clarification: it's definitely the thug's fault if he bullied a girl, but it's also partly the dad's fault for taking his kid to a potentially-dangerous/violent situation as well.

A rally for Kerry is a dangerous and violent situation? Speaks volumes about those peace-loving, tree-hugging democrats, doesn't it?

Neither action excuses the other.

Moral Equivalence: Taking your child to a rally (and it's not an Islamic Jihad rally or a neo-Nazi rally mind you, but a rally for the democratic candidate in a US presidential election) is as bad as a big glump of a man aggressively snatching something from a three-year old little girl.

evilstorm (#181)

I'm not excusing the thuggery, I'm doubting that there WAS any thuggery. I said in my very first post, any bastard that beats on a 3-year-old girl should be shot, but I'm not convinced that that happened.

Now you're back-tracking so fast that you're falling off the tracks -- you're all over the place. You lack the ability to tell right from wrong. Shame for you.

cbs headlines tonight 6;30 pm, 3 yr old causes major disruption. in self defense grown man, stops the would be 3yr old assailiant, from attacking, vp nominee gomer pyle

#260 AB

And the union guy still looks like his son.

No, the blonde kid to his left looks like his son...because it is his son.

Do you have any reason to believe that the punk is related to him, other than that he's white? Any evidence whatsoever? Do you think the union would have apologized if it wasn't one of theirs? Don't you think they would have said: "He's an asshole, but he's not one of ours. Karl Rove did it."

And the father does have a history of bringing his children to events and complaining about getting harrassed.

The father has a history of going to Democratic events and being harrassed. That makes it his fault?

I call bullshit on your bullshit.

#257
You know, you don't win an argument by simply calling out 'moral equivalence.' Please stop using it as rhetoric's equivalent of a swift kick to the nuts. An amendment to Godwin's law may be called for here.

Let's look at some facts Re: the fabulous victimized Mr. Parlock.:

1) 1996: he is quoted as saying he was 'knocked to the ground' by a Clinton supporter for holding a sign that said 'remember Vince Foster.
2) Four years later, he says that his signs were stolen from him by Gore supporters. "And sometimes it got physical."
3) Now, with a history of those rat bastard liberals accosting him since the mid-90s, he decides to bring his adorable little girl to another rally, where, horror of horrors, he is accosted again.

Let's assume that the Dems are the child-eating monsters everyone here assumes they are. I think it's safe to say Mr. Parlock would agree with that.

Is it moral equivocating to say that he probably shouldn't bring his daughter to an event where, twice before, he has had physical confrontations?

#265 ShanNYC

One word: links. Sight links, not a post.

We leave the assuming to LLL trolls, troll.

First of all ... I don't agree with much of what Asher said. The father did not exhibit good judgement protecting his kids by taking them to be amongst a bunch of irrational moronic dhimmies. F*ck the union slime that bullies up on a little kid... but then again... that's pretty much what the atypical union member is all about these days isn't it? At this point, unions protect the worthless and lazy from getting fired, bottom line. Just look at the postal disservice. It is a sad testament to where the dhimmiecrat party has gone to at this point, dissenting viewpoints cannot be expressed at a political gathering without fear of physical reprisal against someone as innocent as a small child. Sounds kinda like islamic militants. Pick on the defenseless. Can you tell I really like unions...rriigghhhttt!

#265 ShanNYC

Is it moral equivocating to say that he probably shouldn't bring his daughter to an event where, twice before, he has had physical confrontations?

It was at an appearance of a candidate for Vice President of the United States, at a public airport.

You'd think that would be a safe, public place.

Are you telling us that he should expect violence from Democrats wherever they may be? Are you telling us that anyone holding a Bush/Cheney sign in this public, taxpayer funded facility is asking for it?

Anbody catch the dope in the background holding his kerredwards sign upside down???

I have a huge star-spangled 'W' on the back window of my truck. I wonder sometimes if someone would deface my truck for having it. I'd love to catch 'em in the act. But the cowards would do it at 3 or 4 am when I'm not around to inflict max pain.

In fact, all 3 of our vehicles have that big W.

i don't know if anyone noticed the retard in the background holding his sign upside down.

Aw, is another fit hitting the Shan? Have another dose of equivacation and sympathize with two liberals.

ShanNYC,

1. My name is zulubaby, not "#257". Get some manners.

2.

You know, you don't win an argument by simply calling out 'moral equivalence.' Please stop using it as rhetoric's equivalent of a swift kick to the nuts. An amendment to Godwin's law may be called for here.

I don't take orders from you.

3. If I see moral equivalence, as I did, I'll comment on it. That you don't like that kind of "rhetoric" has no bearing on me whatsoever.

4.

Let's look at some facts ...

Got links?

Forgive me, but I don't believe a word of anything that you've written. A guy bringing his daughter to a rally does not deserve to have said daughter beat up on. We're supposed to be civilized, remember?

5. I hope you're not a parent.

6.

he decides to bring his adorable little girl to another rally

She's three years old. Do the math, genius.

Josh:
Unfortunately, Lexis-Nexis is a subscription based service. I realize that to you, if an item doesn't appear in a Google search, it doesn't exist, but thems the breaks.

#268
All I'm saying is that a reasonable parent would think twice before before bringing a toddler to an event where said parent had been accosted twice before. I mean, it's just common sense.
Unless, of course, the parent is using his toddler to defame the other side. The lout who made the little girl cry fulfilled Mr. Parlock's expectations, and is a degenerate, but how can you excuse Parlock bringing his little girl to the event?

Unions are remnants of Stalinism.

Get rid of 'em.

The skilled workers who succeed will be the ones who can compete in the market.

The incompetent ones will fail, as they deserve.

From Factiva:

HEADLINE: Signs for Bush taken at rally, father, son say

Chip Ellis
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28 October 2000
Charleston Gazette
P11A
English
(Copyright 2000)

DAILY MAIL

Huntington residents Phil Parlock and his son, Louis, discovered their Bush-Cheney signs were not welcome at Vice President Al Gore's rally at the state Capitol. The two said some Gore supporters grabbed the signs away from them and there were a few physical confrontations. A police officer said some Bush supporters voluntarily ripped up their signs after a brief scuffle.

DOLE SUPPORTERS FIND IT ROUGH AT CLINTON RALLY

337 words
27 August 1996
Charleston Daily Mail
P3C
English
(Copyright 1996)

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

HUNTINGTON - Some Clinton protestors say the president's supporters shouted them down and kept their signs from being seen as the president kicked off his re-election campaign.

Others said they had no problem getting through the gates with signs promoting Bob Dole's Republican candidacy.

Clint Gillespie and Robert Painter of Huntington managed to obtain tickets to the priority viewing area outside the old Chesapeake & Ohio passenger station in Huntington for a Clinton-Gore campaign rally on Sunday.

Armed with the tickets, they marched through the gate with Dole-Kemp placards tucked under their arms.

They obtained their tickets by promising those at Democratic headquarters they would be waving signs during the president's visit, but they did not reveal their signs would be in support of Dole.

"Clinton thinks he can just come here to Huntington and get a crowd, but we're here to show not all West Virginians share Clinton's values,' said Gillespie, a senior at Marshall University.

"We always try to give them a warm Republican welcome,' said Painter, a recent graduate of Marshall University.

Phil Parlock's experience was less calm.

The Huntington man said he was knocked to the ground by a Clinton supporter when he tried to display a sign that read "Remember Vince Foster,' the deputy White House counsel who committed suicide in a Washington, D.C., park. His death has become the subject of much debate among Clinton opponents.

"It must have been a strict Democrat who did this,' Parlock said, feeling the red abrasions on his face. "Everyone with the exception of him was real peaceful about our protest.'

Parlock said some of the crowd tried to make other anti-Clinton demonstrators feel unwelcome. He estimated that about 150 Dole supporters attended the rally, but their signs couldn't be seen for most of the rally.

"I came to show that not everyone from Huntington is going to vote for Clinton,' Parlock said.

And for good measure:

HEADLINE: Bush names campaign coordinators for state

398 words
28 December 1999
the Charleston Gazette
P1C
English
(Copyright 1999)