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CBS: "Without Favoritism"

Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 10:03:41 am PDT

An LGF reader has forwarded several highly revealing photographs of a CBS News van—with anti-Bush material proudly displayed in its front window. Here’s what he wrote:

Some friends and I were up at CBS yesterday afternoon taking some funny pictures for our website when a CBS News van pulled up with anti-Bush stuff in the window. We took several shots to prove where they were taken and we were sure to get the license plate in one of the shots. The CBS placard in the window is leaning on a Satan bobble head doll. How appropriate.

UPDATE at 9/20/04 11:27:45 am:

Please note: this photo was taken yesterday while Rathergate was raging. I have two other photographs of this truck; a closeup of the CBS News sign showing contact phone numbers, and a wide shot showing the license plate of the truck.

UPDATE at 9/20/04 3:25:33 pm:

Communists for Kerry has the rest of the story.

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1 Laserjock  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:05:57am

Deveil's advocate - are we holding news van drivers etc to the same standard we're holding their journalists? Should there not be any polital bent at all for the arguably non-representative figures in these agencies?

2 Sean  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:05:58am

This is begging for some out-in-the-open PhotoShopped
humor!

PDM? Allah?

3 Security Mom  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:06:18am

Heh. What city is this in?

4 AG in Houston  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:06:35am

I can't read what it says below CBS News Path.

Help anyone?

5 Bob-o  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:06:56am

Ah, their lack of bias is refreshing! Right...

6 Luigi  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:07:03am

Figures..

7 Sean  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:07:03am

Laserjock-What's a Deveil?

8 Ghost of a flea  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:08:02am

You can't make this stuff up. In Canada, even the CBC would be more careful to disguise its bias.

9 Security Mom  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:10:20am

AG-

I enlarged it but couldn't read it either. Charles, do you have a picture that shows that sign clearly?

10 Charles  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:11:01am

AG: there are phone numbers below "CBS News Path". I have another closeup photo with the numbers clearly visible, and I'm debating with my evil twin whether to post it.

11 amir  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:11:02am

How can you tell the material is displayed proudly?

12 bruder  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:11:34am

All thanks to Communists For Kerry, by the way.

13 Eagle  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:12:04am

... and a copy of Manufacturing Consent on the passenger seat.

14 Sean  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:12:09am

POST IT! POST IT POST IT!

15 Sean  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:12:33am

Reveal the source!

16 gargamel  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:13:37am

"The only bush i trust is my own."

17 Security Mom  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:13:38am
are we holding news van drivers etc to the same standard we're holding their journalists

It's more a sign that bias is pervasive and acceptable at CBS.

And if I understand it correctly (from seeing news crews a lot at a hospital where I worked), when a news van goes out it has a reporter, and a cameraman, a sound guy, andsometimes a producer. I doubt they spend money on a driver.

18 AG in Houston  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:14:21am

Posting phone numbers is DU and Zunigaish.

19 RebTex  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:14:38am

I can only chuckle at the assertion that the "story" was put forth in good faith!
Dan Rather has become nothing more that an angry old man who sees the proverbial sun setting on him and his honor.
Notice how C B S won't run an anti-kerry story.....even with KNOWN DOCUMENTS AND PROVEN LIES!!!
Non- Partisan......I DON'T THINK SO!

20 Chuck Pelto  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:14:43am

TO: Charles Johnson
RE: This Looks....

"Fake" but "Accurate".

Regards,

Chuck(le)

21 Darleen  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:14:51am

WHOA!! Dennis Prager is fisking the Rather statement right now, and is he angry!!!

22 Sean  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:15:21am

I know AG. I'm just being evil today....

23 Dar ul Harb  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:15:31am

This is pretty weak.

But if someone were to Photoshop it to "CBS News: Pathological," however...

24 Smitty  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:15:49am

#8 Ghost

I doubt it.

CBC Viewpoint

A sampling:

From the outside, it seems incredible that Bush has any chance to win the election at all.
25 J.D.  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:15:56am

#20 Chuck
You beat me to it!

26 katkin  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:16:07am

Probably...
"The only Bush I trust is my own"

At least that's the one I've seen around. (This is Florida, we've got a governer named Bush, too.)

27 amir  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:16:20am

Maybe it's a Kerry campaign van and the sign is to show which is their favorite network news station.

28 Glen Wishard  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:16:49am

And the sign in my window says:

"Why don't you mind your own bush?"

29 jrdroll  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:16:55am

#18 ag

Posting phone numbers is DU and Zunigaish.


If it were private citizens I agree. But this is an "evil" corporation. Publish away.

30 hepcat  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:17:00am

Was that in Page 2 or Page 3 of CBS' Code of Ethic's?

31 Darleen  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:17:10am

Dennis Prager "He's not a journalist, he's a fraud. He is a shill for the left."

32 Sir Lurksalot  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:17:17am

Oh yeah, well what about Fox? Sean Hannity said some nast things about Kerry the other day.

//deflecting LLL

33 LAM  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:17:49am

Great work on the pictures, pat pat pat (on the back)....

34 Melissa  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:17:50am

Charles (#22)

Public's right to know.

OT: Did you know that El Baradei is now favored for the Nobel Peace Prize (over Vanunu, ISM, and Chirac) this year?

El Baradei tipped for Nobel Peace Prize

When Tel Aviv is incinerated by an Iranian nuclear bomb, can the prize be rescinded? I'm sure the committee will apologize, kinda like CBS.

35 Chuck Pelto  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:18:00am

TO: Sean
RE: What Is That?

"What's a Deveil?" -- Sean

Maybe it's that thing that looks like a red head with two yellow horns holding up the CBS New Path sign in the window.

Regards,

Chuck(le)

36 piglet  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:18:23am

Call me crazy, but I still like this better:

[Link: www.axisofeve.org...]

37 Bubbaman  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:18:23am

Someone remind me why Bernie Goldberg left that network? Geez, these cretins are gross!

38 Chuck Pelto  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:18:31am

P.S. I can hear the driver's excuse now, "The deveil made me do it."

39 Frank IBC  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:19:19am

"The only Bush I trust is my own"

"He talks to his own Bush?"

-Dried Boogers under the piano in Ren and Stimpy

40 BIG  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:20:11am

OT - More exploding PLO-Arabs

At least two Palestinians were killed at nightfall Monday when an explosion ripped through a car in the southern part of Gaza City, witnesses said, in what appeared to be an IAF air strike.

The link is to the Jerusalem Post, so registration may be required.

41 Monty  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:20:34am

So Dan the Document Man finally caves to the obvious and admits he was "misled" on the TANG documents.

So what do you do with this news if you're "Screw 'Em" Kos or Atrios? You ignore the news. Nothing major on this story from either site. How much does anyone want to bet that this story will be down the memory hole as far as Kos or Atrios is concerned?

42 Praxeus  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:20:46am

Dan's personal van ?

43 dcbatlle  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:21:23am

Frank,

and his bush apparently talks to him.

44 Cato the Elder  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:21:42am

OT, but just saw this in the new New Yorker article about Te-ray-za:

'The natural woman refuses to suppress her élan or subordinate her character to a role. “I don’t want to lose myself,” she said to me recently, “because if I do then I think my husband loses something, too.” '

And if you don't, your husband loses something else.

The election.

Play the game or get out, dummycrats!

45 geo  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:23:02am

#11 Emir - proudly because it is in the front window. But psychology is not my strong suit so this comment is fake (but accurate).

46 Globular Cluster  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:24:08am
47 Dar ul Harb  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:24:35am

#40,

Car swarm alert!

My favorite graph from the AP story:

Farmer Issam Abdel Khalim, 42, was driving his donkey cart nearby. "Suddenly there was a flash from the sky and I head an explosion," he said. "My donkey jumped and hit the wall, and I saw the vehicle on fire."

48 monkey  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:24:55am

Thats awsome. Its like catching CBS with its dick in its hand while it saying it doesn't masterbate. HA HA HA.

And they can't figure out why no one watches them.

49 bummer  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:25:09am

Who needs the alphabet news channels when you can blog!

What you are hearing are the moans and groans of Danosaurus Ratherraus becoming extinct.

50 Bob with one O  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:25:11am

Charles has an evil twin? Oh the questions that arise. Heavy metal? Rap? Lefty?

Prager has Charles on now

51 Security Mom  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:25:22am

Charles is on Dennis Prager right now.

52 Darleen  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:25:35am

CHARLES IS ON DENNIS PRAGER RIGHT NOW!!!!!

53 LAM  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:27:04am

#47 Dar, I laughed when I read that too!!!!

54 mrsoc  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:27:09am

Don't forget that you have to e mail 60 minutes and 60 minutes II and CBS and your congressmen every day.

I think I will do a memo that proports to prove Dan Ratherbiased does farm animals. It will be fake-but accurate too.

And wet, but dry, and yes but no. Sort of like John Kerry-I did but I didn't and his faithful sidekick Tonto but actually not.

Maybe I could just lie down. They make me dizzy.

56 Darleen  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:27:49am

Oh..this is so cool....

:-)

57 Globular Cluster  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:28:20am
58 Bob with one O  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:29:35am

Does my last post mean I'm a groupie?

59 LAM  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:29:45am

I am listening....Go Dennis.

60 Globular Cluster  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:30:34am

Way to go Charles. Dan's head should roll. Not pulling any punches.

61 Darleen  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:31:14am

Oh my... Dennis has been my favorite radio show for YEARS (back when he started with Religion on the Line)...

Charles, that was WONDERFUL!

62 piglet  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:31:16am
Car swarm alert!

My favorite graph from the AP story:

Farmer Issam Abdel Khalim, 42, was driving his donkey cart nearby. "Suddenly there was a flash from the sky and I head an explosion," he said. "My donkey jumped and hit the wall, and I saw the vehicle on fire."

As it was written:

Basically the story is about humans who think they know what is good. It begins with Balaam on his way to curse the Israelites at the request of Balak, the king of Moab. As the result of a mystical intervention the curse turns into a blessing for the Israelites. Along the way Balsam's long trusted she-ass "sees" a threatening angel of God and being devoted as only a she-ass could be, she stops in an attempt to protect Balaam. Outraged by the donkey's unwillingness to move forward, Balaam beats his loyal animal. This repeats itself three times until finally the she-ass talks to Balaam asking him, "What have I done that you beat me three times?" With no remorse Balaam answers, "You have made a mockery of me! If I had a sword I would kill you!" The reply from the donkey, "I am the donkey that you have been riding all along until this day! Have I been in the habit of doing this to you?" Balaam just answers NO, without apology nor surprise in the wondrous talents of the she-ass. It seems clear that Balaam, a man of great power, with the gift of vision, is unable to see what is apparent to a simple donkey.

[Link: www.templeemanueltucson.org...]

63 gymnast  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:31:25am

#44, Cato the Elder. There at first I thought you were talking about Paris Hilton, then I went back and read your top line.

64 designer  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:31:26am

One thing to consider when displaying any type of printed message, i.e. "the only bush I trust is my own," when using a vehicle owned by a company or news organization, is that it can be interpreted by the public as the official view of said company or news organization regardless of who placed the printed material there.

So the argument of the driver not being able to express his or her self while on the CBS clock, in a CBS news van while in the public eye is weak.

65 Security Mom  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:31:30am

#48 monkey

ugh. Is that the best simile you can come up with?

66 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:31:37am

Uh-oh, here comes the deluge of traffic.

Charles, you might want to put the low-bandwidth page up again.

67 bummer  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:32:11am

If Kerry doesn't win, you can bet Teresa will ask for a divorce.

68 addison  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:33:06am

Amazing.

69 Globular Cluster  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:33:13am

[Link: www.democraticunderground.com...]

Dummies are claiming that KKKarl is responsible. Read the ranting, feel the sweat.

70 Globular Cluster  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:33:23am

[Link: www.democraticunderground.com...]

Dummies are claiming that KKKarl is responsible. Read the ranting, feel the sweat.

71 Sean  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:34:06am
72 Dar ul Harb  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:35:40am

#65,

Yeah! Somebody spank the monkey...

73 Globular Cluster  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:35:42am

Sorry for the double post, having trouble connecting.

74 Michoel  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:35:52am

#57 Global cluster
What are they saying over at DUmmies? The site is blocked by our firewall.

Thanks

75 Owl  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:38:29am

#24 - saw the same exact thing on CNN last night(just flipping by it, didnt' stop long *spit, gag, cough*)


conspiracy? naaaaaaa....

owl

76 Purple Fury  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:41:32am

#74

Several reactions:

1. Hold our nose and hope it blows over

2. Forget about it, let's get back to talking about issues

3. Calls for CBS to reveal the source (confident it will be shown to be Rove)

4. Lots of moonbats checking in, asking "wha? Who's Burkett? Good guy or bad guy?"

5. A rare voice of sanity saying, this looks bad for CBS and isn't going to reflect well on JFK

6. Assorted moonbattery

77 monkey  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:43:08am

sorry #65 security mom but it truely was. I have too often been argueing with libs. I find if i don't keep it simple i loose them so it kinda carries over when i post on other sites.

78 Globular Cluster  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:43:55am

74 Michoel

"Look at Mr. Buckhead first and all roads will lead to KKKRove."

"I'd bet money on it! This SMELLS just like something KKKRove would do. His hands ARE all over this. Mark my word."

"But the right has labeled him as mentally unstable. Long before this. That might be true. If he knew these were forgeries and lied and pushed them on Rather, that's inexcusable. If he was lied to by his "source" (Rove?) then that's a different story."


" I'm thinking he "re"-created them either because he did not want to release the originals or because he doesn't have the originals but wanted to make sure what was in them got into the mainstream. "


"I think there is MORE to this story...and all this attention surrounding it...it sure would be EXCELLENT if Rove was outed as the "source" or someone close to him was the source and then the whole WEB of connections come out again...but they wanted this...so lets hope cbs finishes with a bang"


...............

79 guzziguy  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:43:59am

#32, Lurksalot

Hannity is a commentator. He does commentary, not news. There should be a difference.

Fox does do news but Hannity doesn't do it and doesn't claim that he does. Rather and friends are "news," or so they would have us believe. They shouldn't do commentary.

80 MasterChief_D  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:44:12am

What a wonderful catastrophe for the Partisan media just prior to a Bush election victory! I have been waiting for C-BS to step into something ever since I read STOLEN VALOR (by B.G. Burkett-no relation to the Burkett caught up in the scandal right now!) and read about the "Wall Within" Michael Moore style Docu-smear Rather and C-BS ran hitting our Vietnam era Veterans with even more mis-representations and infamy back in 1988. The mask has slipped and the donkey is desperate to pull it back into place and make this all go away!! They are Doomed!!

81 ShanNYC  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:44:30am

Wait, couldn't the sign just be anti-lesbianism as opposed to anti-incumbent president? Just a thought...

82 Miggie  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:45:13am

According to Rush, CBS is saying that Burkett was not the ultimate source but somebody else, if you can believe it, passed the memos to Burkett who then passed them on to CBS. (It must have been Karl Rove... BRAHAHhahahaha).

#1 Laserjock ..the van belongs to CBS, not the driver and it is clear that they have rules about what can be displayed on their vans and what they wink at.

83 caryn  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:46:01am

Hey all, does anyone else find the use of the President's last name and Vice President's first name in "clever" little obscene puns adolescently vulgar? Or am I just an incredible prude?

84 bummer  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:46:09am

It wasn't Rove, it was Hillary!

85 Jack is Back!  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:48:24am

From the AP story:

"The documents were said to be written by Lt. Col. Jerry B. Killian, indicating he was being pressured to "sugarcoat" the performance ratings of a young Bush, then the son of a Texas congressman, and that Bush failed to follow orders to take a physical. Killian died in 1984. "

Senior Bush was not a Texas Congressman at the time of the forged Killian memos. Another piss poor piece of journalism and partisan reporting on the part of AP. No wonder journalists are starting to get the same respect as used car salesmen, lawyers and UN delegates.

86 bummer  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:49:00am

#83 Caryn

I must be prude too, how about the Secretary of State's first name.

87 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb)  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:49:28am

Anyone miss Jonah Goldberg's delightful acidulous column on Danny Boy's escapades? Here's a taste.

'"I don't back up. I don't back down. I don't cave when the pressure gets too great from these partisan political ideological forces."

'He added: "This is not about me. . I recognize that those who didn't want the information out and tried to discredit the story are trying to make it about me, and I accept that."

'What a hero. What a paladin for truth, justice and the American way. Here's the problem: Rather isn't standing up to partisan political forces. Indeed, among the forces that have been most energetic in making Rather look ridiculous are the Washington Post and ABC News. The New York Times and NPR haven't been as good, but they have hardly ignored the fact that Rather shot himself in the foot and kept holding down the trigger as he worked his way up his body.'

Linky!

88 Furious J  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:52:17am

So, let's see if I understand moonbat logic.

A foaming Bush-hater (Burkett) accepts documents from Bush's right hand man (Rove) that, if real, are very damaging to Bush. Burkett never questions why a Bush loyalist would provide such documents, but hands them off to Dan Rather.

Obviously, critical thinking is not the strong suit of the left.

89 Bob with one O  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:53:25am

Caryn and bummer,

No, it's not just you. What passes as political discourse of late is tiresome.

90 bummer  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:54:42am

I guess The Enquirer is now more credible than CBS.

91 Dman  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:57:39am

It would not be hard to imagine a LLL retort being
"Well, the Fox News people all wear Flag pins which obviously indicates support for Bush and the war. "

92 Praxeus  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:58:24am

90 bummer

Fer reel..............

At least they are openly making stuff up.

93 Glen Wishard  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 8:59:38am

#55 - burninginside

You think that's bad? Here's a Bush assassination thread on the discussion board of a teen fashion magazine: How cool would that be to have the Gay Pride Union or something assassinate Bush?

94 bummer  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:00:47am

Is there no end to the Democratic train wreck...

Daschle supporting Bush?

95 RIP Ford  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:02:45am

#93 Glen Wishard

How did you manage to find that?

96 kiDDD  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:04:26am

Please anybody with some connections get the photo on the air. This is getting flat ridiculous, and no one else see this or want to acknowledge this. And they say BUSH is in the pockets of Big Business? The Media is a BIG BUSINESS Monopoly for the LIBEL's , err I mean LIBERALS.

97 Glen Wishard  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:06:49am

#95 RIP Ford:

I was searching for pictures of Justin Timberlake in his underwear, of course. Why do you ask?

No, wait ... I'm doing some sub-contract work for the Secret Service. Yeah, that's it.

98 RIP Ford  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:08:47am

#97 Glen Wishard

LOL

Just giving you a hard time. It's not often someone links to YM on LGF. :P

99 Rayra[deleted]  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:09:07am
100 bummer  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:09:31am

#96 kiDDD

The media happen to be the self proclaimed 4th (sorry, couldn't help it) branch of government.

101 Rayra[deleted]  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:11:37am
102 Smitty  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:11:48am

"The only bush I trust is my own." Does this even make sense? I'm no gal, but the more I read this the more ridiculous it sounds. Do you ladies actually talk to your...'you know whats'? Do you actually make decisions based on whether you trust your hoo-hoo?

I know we men do, but that's why we're men.

103 Cam  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:12:10am

#93 Glen Wishard:

How's this for a bit of choice, incise political commentary:

did u hear how he said october election last nite. y shud he win it if he doesnt even noe when it is

Good Lord.

104 sefton  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:13:12am

They should have to call it
The CBS "News".

105 coastygirl  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:13:22am

Glen Wishard,
I am now stupider after reading that site. omg im cutting myselve but my bf is tretning to brake up w/ me, anybody no of a good politikul website?
I KNOW I was not this STOOPID when I was a teen.

106 Cam  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:15:57am

LMAO!

I didn't even realize that it was YM, but my first thought on reading some of the comments was that these posters are about as bright as an eleven year-old child.

'Pears I ws right.

107 Glen Wishard  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:16:47am

And this anarchist fantasy (at FictionPress.com) about assassinating Bush, appropriately entitled Bush's Assassination.
[Warning - truly horrible writing, possibly even worse than Dan Brown]

But it gets good reviews fromm the other inmates:

hahah very sexy story eric! i love how you and alyssa are together -nudge nudge- you horny little azn man ehhehe... thats alright tho lol i love the way bush is all twitchy tho...
oh yea... did u ever bother to think that there are government people going through these things looking for any anarchy stories for possible threats to the president... better watch out for the fbi or something... they might be coming to get you!
108 kiDDD  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:17:00am

Isn't Dan Rather's daughter also a member of the local democratic offices in Texas? I think I remember reading about that somewhere. Can anybody verify that? And if so, shouldn't that question be raised to?

109 burninginside  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:17:27am

93 Glen,

Wow, that's really sad...

110 jrdroll  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:18:39am

#102 smitty

Do you ladies actually talk to your...'you know whats'?

Have you heard of the "vagina monologues"?

111 Nattering Nabob of Negativity  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:19:08am

Hi,

First post. Wonderful site. I discovered you along with the rest of the masses last week. Great job, Charles!

I'm an MSM manager (local affiliate, not national, not CBS). One of my credos is to bend over backward to be fair to those who least appear to deserve it.

So ... Is there any more information available about when, where, how this picture was taken? Who shot it? I'm particularly curious about the when. It would REALLY be arrogant if if this happened in the past week. But ... to ask a few questions that probably wouldn't occur to CBS (if it involved another organization) Can we rule out CBS being framed by someone wandering by, and sticking the sign in for a quick cheap shot? I'm not saying I think it was staged. Just wondering if anyone has details that might rule that out.

On one hand, it really isn't fair to judge such a large organization by the actions of one renegade live truck operator. You can have good policies and work your butt off to hire good people, and still end up with jerks on your staff who make idiotic decisions that reflect unfavorably on the organization.

On the other hand, if authentic, it really speaks to a lack of oversight by management. While I don't expect Andrew Hayward to walk through the parking lot each morning looking at the vehicle fleet, I WOULD expect a reporter or photographer riding along to say, "Are you crazy? You can't have that showing!" Says a lot about the culture there.

112 Rayra[deleted]  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:23:28am
113 Smitty  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:23:45am

#110 jrdroll

Right. Forgot about that. Didn't see it though... ;-)

114 Dave the.....  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:24:47am

#94

South Dakota is polling 60% for Bush (and look for it to increase.....imagine Tuuurrreeezzzzaaa in Chadron).

Appartently Daschle's attendence at the F911 screening didn't help him any.


One common trait with liberal Dems from the upper midwest is that they have Jykle and Hyde personalities. Liberal socialites while on the east coast, good old boy conservatives while visiting the home state.

115 Charles  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:24:48am

Nattering Nabob: I have two other photos of the truck, one showing the license plate, and another with a closeup of the CBS News sign, showing phone numbers.

I'm reluctant to post that stuff, though, with almost five thousand people online.

116 AG in Houston  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:25:18am

Smitty

"The only bush I trust is my own."

It does sound a bit Vagina Mologue-ish.

117 Charles  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:25:22am

The photos were taken yesterday...

118 monkey  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:25:38am

#106 Cam

What you didn't know that ym was maybe the foremost expert on politics. Like OMG, How cn u vote for a dude w/ just a red and blue tie. LOL

As we all now know 11-15 year old girls have their finger on the puls of current events and politics.

119 Cam  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:27:37am

#111 Nattering Nabob of Negativity:

LOL! Alliterate much?

Welcome aboard.

120 Dave the.....  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:28:54am

If I had a company van of my employers and put a generic political message on it, I'd be called in, told to take it down and be warned that another thing like this would lead to action.

If it had a sexual type message one it like this one, most likely I'd be fired.

Apparently there is no fear about this at CBS.

121 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb)  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:29:19am

#88 Furious J

Aw, there you go being logical again. [sigh]

122 The Other Les  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:30:07am

# 93 Glen Wishard

I was waiting in line to see a midnight movie on Saturday Night when a couple of chattering collage age female mmonbats began discussing killing President Bush. One of them said that if she were afflicted with an terminal illness she would do it her self.

123 bummer  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:30:21am

#102 Smitty

Wonder if the hoo hoos ever talk back.

124 characterboy  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:30:36am

Where can we see the rest of the funny pictures?

125 efuseakay  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:30:43am

Where are the other pics? :)

126 AG in Houston  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:30:55am

I have to go through hell and high water if I want to do anything "politicking."

My company does not need any more negative attention than it is already getting.

127 Cam  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:34:09am

#120 Dave the.....:

LOL! Many years ago while pumping gas at night in Victoria I had two master sriminals try to rob me using a pellet gun. I refused to open the till. They said they would shoot me if I didn't. I pointed out that I was too worried about a pellet gun. They denied it was a pellet gun, and so I pointed out on the side of it where it said "CO2". They exchanged glances and ran out of the store.

Gist of the story? These two mental midgets had borrowed the guy's Dad's work van for the heist of the century, and kindly waited a couple of minutes to make their left turn out onto a busy road, giving me time to stroll over and casually write down the company name and 'phone number from the side of the van.

No word on whether or not they were Kerry supporters.

;-)

128 Globular Cluster  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:34:36am

"The only John I trust is clogged."

129 lawhawk  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:35:27am

Resign now, Rather. We know. [Link: www.metallicity.com...] .

130 Geepers  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:36:33am

The Other Les (#122),

I was waiting in line to see a midnight movie on Saturday Night when a couple of chattering collage age female mmonbats began discussing killing President Bush. One of them said that if she were afflicted with an terminal illness she would do it her self.

So did you tell her that fantasies of murder are signs of mental illness?

131 Stringart  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:38:26am

#1 Laserjock

Deveil's advocate - are we holding news van drivers etc to the same standard we're holding their journalists? Should there not be any polital bent at all for the arguably non-representative figures in these agencies?

I worked for a company that had hundreds of vehicles bearing the company logo.

Employees were not allowed to place anything in public view on or in the vehicle that had any political/idealogical/religious overtones. Banners rooting for the local sports team were similiarly disallowed.

The reason? The company had a PR department to make public statements reflecting its stance (if they had one) on any number of issues. The employees were entitled to hold any position they wanted; they just couldn't give the impression that it was the company's opinion.

An employee placing that sign in the front window leaves the impression that it is the company's opinion. Never mind that in this picture the driver seems to reflect CBS's view. The employee was hired to drive the van, not make policy statements.

And another point. Any employee in my company that was in a company vehicle or wearing a shirt with the company logo on it was a representative of the company. Just not one paid to make policy statements.

132 selpaw  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:42:53am

Heywards lie statement and a van with a message that tells it all-

“Nothing is more important to us than our credibility and keeping faith with the millions of people who count on us for fair, accurate, reliable, and independent reporting,” Heyward continued. “We will continue to work tirelessly to be worthy of that trust.”

CBS has no credibility, nor did they ever. There is no faith to keep and as far as being fair, accurate and reliable, this is an out and out lie! It is a f*cking OUTRAGE, that's what it is. We all know CBS deals in deception and bias not in truth. Their truth is so warped and perverse that they wouldn't know it if it hit them in the head.

To prove this as true, the picture in the front window of the CBS fan exemplifies their sickening agenda.

I can only hope their lies are pursued to the point where everyone is exposed at CBS and the DNC beyond.

133 bummer  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:43:37am
134 Praxeus  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:43:55am

CHARLES, check your email I just sent you some more photos of CBS bias that were sent to me from 'Che over at Communists for Kerry.

135 boiii  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:45:36am

Posted in another thread, but it remains on-topic...

Now, CBS, Al-Qaeda, and Jesus support Kerry.

Fantastic.

cheers.
ken

136 a girl called Alex  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:45:56am

First post to you guys, you have given me sanity since raTHergate began. You will keep me sane through this election. Thanks -

Just wanted to let you know that I emailed 60 minutes II, demanding an apology to W and the Killian family, as well as the firing of Gunga Dan.

I was moved to do this by the many posts to this site about contacting CBS - I encourage others to do the same. It feels fabulous! (plus I don't like bitching about things without doing something about the problem...kind of like, um, voting...)

Alex

137 paxnhymn  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:47:21am

that YM blog was too much...the question is, too much what? It wasn't Funny...it was Frightening....that's our youth(albeit moonbat youth) out there spouting this illiterate gibberish!!! Do you trust the country's future to that???!!! I KNOW we weren't that stupid..even on drugs!!The sad thing is that they waste our oxygen and are going to be allowed to walk into a voting booth to exercise a right someone died for them to keep, and they are totally clueless!!!

That link was the best argument for a basal IQ test before voting priviledges are given!!!!

What a world, what a world...(i'm melting....)

138 alegrias  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:47:41am

#119 Cam

Anyone, isn't "Nattering Nabobs of Negativity" what Spiro Agnew called people with Anyone But Nixon syndrome? Sweet, Dan Rather has become his own worst Nixonian nightmare.

139 lawhawk  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:47:58am

Charles,

Were these pictures taken in NYC. They sure as heck look like it (plus the CBS affiliate is Channel 2 - and note the Dave Price reference, which has extra weight in NYC since Price left Fox5 to join the CBS Early Show and CBS local affiliate to do weather and hosting duties).

#111 - good points, and if your credo were followed in this whole mess, CBS wouldn't be between a rock and a hard place. CBS looks primed for a shakeup, and it will be messy.

140 deliberate  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:48:46am

Hey Charles
Robert Lichter on Fox just said that the only difference between news organizations and bloggers is that news organizations have the ability to check out their sources.

Funny how the sources the MM used to prove they were bogus are the SAME sources that you published DAYS before.
DUHHH

141 batgoat  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:49:40am

and this differs from the other newstations how? Oh you mean because of the TIMING! Well, let's just fall into the trap of trying to spin like everyone else and then ignoring our own talents for it. know what i mean spin machine?

142 Cam  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:52:47am

#138 alegrias:

LOL. I think you're right. i knew that it tickled a memory somewhere in the cobwebs of my mind.

143 Geepers  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:53:02am

Cam (#127),

LOL!

They denied it was a pellet gun, and so I pointed out on the side of it where it said "CO2".

Cam bright like sun.

144 Dave the.....  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:53:25am

#131 Correct.

The HR info given to us when hired (and in occasionally reminders sent out) are very specific about public contact and behavior.

What bugs me is that the CBS person who put that there apparently had no fear of disciplinary action.
Even within the company (no public contact), an employee puting a sexual reference in his/her cube would be talked to (and possibly fired if it was bad enough).

145 sonofdad  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:54:33am

Perhaps CBS is more tolerant of individual political views than the factory in Alabama that fired Lynne Gobbell for having a Kerry/Edwards bumper sticker. If you notice, the sticker says "I trust", not "CBS trusts". Nowhere does it say that CBS is endorsing or condemning anyone, it is merely a personal expression of whomever was driving the van that day. It even looks like a simple piece of paper, not something as "permanent" as a sticker.

If expressing a personal opinion somehow invalidates your ability to report news, then LGF and indeed MOST of the lefty and righty weblogs would be guilty of the same-and equally invalid. There can be no doubt in anyone's mind how Charles feels about John Kerry, yet he continues to "report the news".

So which is it-does anyone else get to have and express an opinion, or only Charles?

146 Glen Wishard  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:54:51am

The Other Les:

a couple of chattering collage age female mmonbats began discussing killing President Bush.

When I was in school, I once heard an Ed-school sophomore go on and on about all the Republicans she was going to kill. Then she couldn't get her new stereo set up without calling me for help.

Of course I refused, on the grounds that her expensive stereo contained components made from South African minerals.

147 rastajenk  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:56:36am

#46 Globby

I read some of those comments at DU; as usual, pretty far-out shit. I wanted to reply, because one of them, "demfaithful," was trying to be levelheaded and common sensical, and was getting nowhere. I wanted to prop him (her) up. But when I saw this on the rules page, I decided it just wasn't worth the effort:
"We ban conservative disruptors who are opposed to the broad goals of this website. If you think overall that George W. Bush is doing a swell job, or if you wish to see Republicans win, or if you are generally supportive of conservative ideals, please do not register to post, as you will likely be banned."

Diversity Rules!! At least, when your diversity agrees with us. If not, then Diversity Sucks!!

148 a girl called Alex  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 9:58:38am

I have to admit the most fun I ever had was while working for a bunch of trial lawyers at a mass tort firm during election 2000. I had George W Bush wallpaper on my computer and it was fun to watch the lawyers foam at the mouth. Since it was in my personal office, I didn't get any grief. I was known as the "lone Republican" - and I loooooooved to debate 'em. Trial lawyers bad, republican paralegals, good...

149 aaron  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 10:00:09am

re: the car swarm in progress, this is my favorite quote:

Witnesses said the targeted vehicle was a small pickup truck with official Palestinian Authority license plates, witnesses said, and bystanders pulled the two bodies, badly burned, from the smoking wreck.

[Link: story.news.yahoo.com...]

And the targets of the interception?

Palestinians identified the two as Rabah Zaqut and Nabil al Saeidi, both residents of Al-Bureij refugee camp and known members of the Hamas.

The IDF declared the two were en route to fire Kassam rockets into Israel.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

150 a girl called Alex  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 10:00:40am

#147

Just preface whatever you say with, "I'm an undecided voter, but..."

151 Cam  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 10:02:05am

#143 Geepers:

I wish I had it on tape. The funniest part about it was the look of utter confusion they exchanged adter I pointed out the "CO2" thing. I felt like John Candy in the movie "Vacation."

Same gas station, a guy overdosed on Heroin shooting up in our bathroom and whie I and an off-duty military paramedic were trying to revive him, his other junky buddy stole my half a cup of coffee and half a smoke that I'd been enjoying when his buddy decided to catch a tight white rail.

Good times.

152 Steffan  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 10:02:37am

#90 bummer

I guess The Enquirer is now more credible than CBS.

Hell, the Weekly World News is more credible than CBS!!

Edward R. Murrow is spinning in his grave so hard you could probably hook a generator up to his body and power Cleveland with it. Add William Paley to the grid and you could shut down half the power plants in the Northeast.

This is classic "Yellow Journalism," the likes of which we really haven't seen since William Randolph Hearst and Joseph Pulitzer conspired to create the Spanish-American War.

Remember the banner on the NY Journal? "How Do You Like The Journal's War?" This is more of the same.

153 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb)  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 10:02:58am

#147 rastajenk

Hmm. You could post as a Certified Moonbat and advocate the reinstatement of Sod 'em Hussein. Bet you'd get some support, too.

154 Globular Cluster  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 10:03:46am

#147 rastajenk

We should call up Howard Stern to discuss this censorship by Bush, the FCC liberals.

155 Dave the.....  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 10:05:33am

#145

I really disagreed with the firing of the lady for having a Kerry bumper sticker. If they wanted to get rid of her anyway (I've worked for places that would look for trival things when they wanted to ditch someone), they should have known that doing it for that was really stupid.

But I disagree with you on putting political statements on company vehicles. I don't even see it as a grey area.

156 marine mom 91  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 10:06:11am

I would like to take Dan Blather and all of the Liberal Democrats and throw them into the "Bush" and leave them there. They just don't get it. At least Bush served in the military and never committed atrocities, or shamed and disgraced this country and our Vietnam Vets. My husband is a Vietnam Vet and he thinks Kerry should have been charged with treason.

One of my sons served in Desert Storm and one son is in Iraq second time. We do not trust Kerry to be in charge of our military.

I heard that Dan Blather's wife works for Kerry so they all want to destroy Bush. The Liberal Democrats wouldn't know the truth if it bit them on the ass and gave them rabies!

157 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb)  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 10:06:28am

Did anyone else note the interview where LENO, who's now on my excrement list, said he's not only a Dem. himself (fine, no surprise there), but there are NO REPUBLICANS on his writing staff.

Blacklist? in Hollywood? tut, tut, tut! Thought they were against that kind of thing. What a jackass.

158 selpaw  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 10:07:03am

#148 a girl called Alex

Trial lawyers bad

Except when you need them of course.

Except when they sign your paycheck.

159 kathyn  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 10:09:41am

A girl called Alex....Welcome.

I too, just emailed CBS 60 minutes II to express my utter disgust with this whole mess. I urge everyone to do the same. How out of touch are they with the "masses" that they thought they could get away with this lie?

160 our gal sal  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 10:11:09am

Bat Boy and the Queen of the Beauty goats had a love child? Who knew?

161 Globular Cluster  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 10:11:57am

Latest from ScrappleFace:

Dan Rather Uncovers Memo Forgery, Demands Resignation
(2004-09-20) -- In an exclusive report tonight, CBS News anchor Dan Rather will break the story of "a web of deception" which allowed 60 Minutes II to use forged documents to impugn the military record of President George Bush.

"As a crack investigative reporter, I've always wanted to break a story this big," said Mr. Rather. "I can't tell you much before the story airs, but the upshot is that someone may have tried to trick me and my producer into using forged documents to discredit the president. We'll actually show you how the fake documents could not have been written in the early 1970s. It's in-depth investigative reporting that you can't get anywhere else. Tune in tonight for this breaking news."

In addition to breaking the fake memo story, Mr. Rather said that during the broadcast he would demand his own resignation, along with that of news producer Mary Mapes.

"You'll never see a cover-up, stonewalling or excuse making at CBS," said Mr. Rather. "We're interested only in truth and integrity. I'm the one who's breaking the story, and I'm the one forcing myself into early retirement. That's proactive."

Mr. Rather said he plans to spend his retirement "sitting around the living room in my pajamas, posting my thoughts to my new blog."

[Link: www.scrappleface.com...]

162 Bob with one O  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 10:13:03am

Alex,

Welcome.

Son of dad,

If you read the bios and FAQ's, you'll see Charles pretty much tells his POV before you ever open a thread. Help me here. I've been to CBS and can't seem to find their public endorsements section.

163 RepJ  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 10:15:16am

You know, if you really wanted to let CBS know how you feel, you could go to their website and email them.

164 andrew2  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 10:17:05am

The smoking gun....

165 The Other Les  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 10:17:10am

# 130 Geepers

So did you tell her that fantasies of murder are signs of mental illness?


No, I just did my best impression of a drill sergeant stare at them a couple of times.

I tend to go ballistic (screaming at top of lungs) in 30 seconds or less when I get into arguments with moonbats.

For example:

"What? a hundred million dead wasn't enough for you mother-f**kers?"

166 Bob with one O  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 10:17:26am

marine mom 91,

Please give my thanks to your family. BTW, what you've done is no less important, Kudos to you too.

167 Cousin Dave  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 10:17:56am

#102 smitty:

I know we men do, but that's why we're men.

Actually, we don't have to -- we already know what it wants!

168 hepcat  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 10:18:57am
Andrew Heyward Internal E-Mail to CBS News Employees
Mon Sep 20 2004 13:25:11 ET

Dear CBS News Colleagues,

Many of you have expressed understandable concern about the disputed documents used in the 60 MINUTES WEDNESDAY report on President Bush's service in the Texas Air National Guard.

Obviously, 60 MINUTES WEDNESDAY had full confidence in the original report or it would not have aired. However, in the wake of serious and disturbing questions that came up after the broadcast, CBS News has done extensive additional reporting in an effort to confirm the documents' authenticity. That included interviews with Marian Carr Knox, secretary to the late Lt. Col. Jerry Killian, the officer named as the author of the documents; an interview with Bill Burkett, the former Guard officer who provided the memos to 60 MINUTES WEDNESDAY; and a further review of the forensic evidence on both sides of the debate.

Based on what we now know, CBS News cannot prove that the documents are authentic, which is the only acceptable journalistic standard to justify using them in the report. We should not have used them. That was a mistake, which we deeply regret.

CBS News and CBS management are commissioning an independent review of the process by which the report was prepared and broadcast to help determine what actions need to be taken. The names of the people conducting the review will be announced shortly, and their findings will be made public.

Nothing is more important to us than our credibility and keeping faith with the millions of people who count on us for fair, accurate, reliable, and independent reporting.
I know all of you work tirelessly to be worthy of that trust. I hope today's public statements about the documents are an important first step in restoring YOUR confidence in the standards and systems we have in place to ensure that we live up to our obligations to our viewers, listeners, and readers -- and to one another.

Thanks
Andrew

Yeah. Sure.

169 Globular Cluster  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 10:20:05am
170 Snowy Owl  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 10:20:14am

#54 mrsoc

And wet, but dry, and yes but no. Sort of like John Kerry-I did but I didn't and his faithful sidekick Tonto but actually not.

OT - That reminds me of part of a TMBG song (apologies to TMBG fans, of whom I am one):
"I'm your only friend, I'm not your only friend, but I'm a little glowing friend, but really I'm not actually your friend but I am..."

When did Kerry start writing lyrics?

171 apotheosis  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 10:21:47am
172 Praxeus  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 10:23:25am

# 169


Barf.......................

173 levi from queens  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 10:24:00am

168-- note they've gone to calling it 60 Minutes Wednesday-- this is a switcdh back. As of about a year ago, they took to calling what was 60 MInutes II just 60 Minutes. I guess they're now trying to reseparate the franchises to protect the value of the original Sunday show.

174 Dar ul Harb  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 10:28:41am

#161,

I'm dyin' laughin'!

175 Nahanni  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 10:29:14am

I have been employed in the Televison industry for 27 years. I have worked at stations of all the major networks (ABC/CBS/NBC/Fox), including two O&O's. I have been around long enough to know of what I speak.

I do not find this photo surprising at all considering what I know about the political attitudes of most people who work in news rooms.

What I DO find surprising is that this would be allowed by management. Despite their politcal leanings they still do want to project an air of "impartiality".

My guess is that this is the driver's own personal "bumpersticker", that is why it is in the window and not on the bumper. They do have to drive different trucks depending on what is needed or if the truck they usually drive is in for maintenece. And once this driver's boss sees this photo my money will be on the driver being out of a job. and in my opinion deserves to be.

176 Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 10:29:28am

CBS = Central Bush-Lied-People-Died Station

OT - Today's polling roundup - looks good for Bush again!

177 John S  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 10:30:04am

Is it just me, or is the internal email within CBS more blunt than the press release for public consumption?

178 Dar ul Harb  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 10:33:50am

I just checked "danrather.com"...

It's not just fake, it's accurate!

179 mobobre  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 10:40:50am

#175 Nahanni

And the bosses boss too :)

180 selpaw  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 10:43:39am

178 Dar ul Harb
Too funny!

Coming Soon.

What, with more lies?

more deception, bias and double-talk

181 a girl called Alex  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 10:43:59am

#158

No intent to offend - should have clarified certain mass tort trial lawyers I know... Losing clients in the abyss of the mass tort mill is not fun to watch or participate in, hence I no longer take that tainted (in my eyes) paycheck. Some of my closest friends are trial lawyers - the kind that take on clients they have time to fully represent. JMHO. Again, no offense intended.

Bob & Kathyn, thx for the welcome.

I am concerned that I am becoming addicted to this particular blog over the past weeks - and I've passed my vice on to others already (including my intensely republican grandmother, aged 86, who thanked me profusely for finding this shining needle in the 'net haystack...). We are currently attempting to gently bring her daughter over from the proverbial "dark side". If I could only keep the nightly news (and I use the term "news" loosely) off her television screen...

Alex

182 caryn  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 10:44:02am

#110 jrdroll

Have you heard of the "vagina monologues"?


A lot of us absolutely cringe at the title and try to forget the whole thing exists. What an embarrassment some women have become to the rest of our sex!

#133 bummer
That link is a hoo hoo hoot!

#138 alegrias
Actually, IIRC, Nattering Nabobs of Negativity is what Agnew called the press.

Can't check in as often as I'd like, so, sorry to be referring so far back with this post.

BTW, to contribute to the conversation about posting personal political opinion items in the workplace, I think it is grossly inappropriate to have partisan labels on a work vehicle, especially if the work is SUPPOSEDLY objective. Having the label obscene on top of it seems really out of line. I certainly wouldn't try anything like that here (in an academic medical center). It would be unprofessional, at the very least. The closest I've come to being political is having "Baghdad delenda est" as my computer's marquee screen saver at the onset of the war last year.

183 Dar ul Harb  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 10:44:16am

Checking the source shows it's a Yahoo GeoCities page.

Whois says its a domain squatter named Big Fan Club in the Netherlands Antilles...

Googling, I note that they've previously had a run-in with Van Morrison, who won his domain name dispute in WIPO.

What ever made them think that Dan Rather would need a Big Fan Club?

184 Melissa  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 10:44:34am

Dan Rather's daughter Robin was initially a Deaniac.

Look at the contributions she's made this cycle here.

185 realwest  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 10:46:14am

Sorry - I haven't read the entire thread, but I can't see anything that says anything ant-Bush nor a devil's head - must just be getting old.

186 Dar ul Harb  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 10:48:47am

Maybe we can help Mr. Rather get set up with a blog, so he can join the 21st Century...

187 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 10:48:58am

CBS= Can Bush Sue

188 The Lone Platypus  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 10:54:23am

#4 AG in Houston:

I can't read what it says below CBS News Path.

Help anyone?

It says:
CALL
212-[whatever]
917-[whatever]
917-[whatever]

News vans often risk getting ticketed because they park wherever the hell they want. In many big cities though (including NYC), you usually get a break if you're in the middle of covering a story. That's why they have that big sign in the window in the first place. The phone numbers are so the cops can call CBS if they think the van's just double-parked so someone can grab lunch.

189 bensmom  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 10:54:49am

#182

A lot of us absolutely cringe at the title and try to forget the whole thing exists. What an embarrassment some women have become to the rest of our sex!

Amen sistah!

Being a Fine Arts person, I read part of the original "coastal" script... putrid! The allegedly cleaned-up version for us fly-overs is not much better. At least they left out the part where the older woman seduces a VERY young teen, showing her that she doesn't need a man to pleasure herself.

;-P

190 realwest  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 10:55:48am

#168 Hep cat - you made thta up, didn't you?

191 Bob with one O  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 10:59:09am

realwest,

"the only Bush I trust is my own"

the paper in the window has a devil bobblehead behind- not seen from the pix angle

192 The Lone Platypus  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 11:00:15am

#3 Security Mom:

Heh. What city is this in?

Manhattan. Right in front of CBS Headquarters.

193 andrew2  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 11:01:26am

Dan Rather appears to have a long history of biased reporting.

Ratherbiased.com

194 Laurence Simon  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 11:01:42am

#175-

Isn't going to happen. Assuming that CBS2 in the picture refers to WCBS New York, it's a union shop and they're untouchable.

The only thing that will get a live truck operator burned is damaging the vehicle and then failing a drug or alcohol test.

However, there's an easier way. Just have a friend tap a cop on the shoulder and say "I saw someone stash a gun under the front seat of that truck before leaving it." Nine times out of ten, they'll be right, and a lot of stations have No Weapons policies.

195 caryn  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 11:01:52am
196 Renna  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 11:01:59am

Even those of us not familiar with SOP for newsvans know from Groundhog's Day that there is no driver per se, but someone on the "without favoritism" newsteam is driving.

Individual emplyoees may certainly have their beliefs, but this is a company van.

My hubby won't even put a Bush sticker on his personal car because he makes sales calls in it and it is unprofessional.

And as for Charles having a bias, he never claimed he didn't as CBS did. There is nothing about having an opinion in and of itself that will prevent you from reporting facts or make you report propaganda. But if you are saying tha you have no bias, and you do, AND you're reporting forgeries and lies as the truth...

If it is an editorial, don't call it straight news.

197 selpaw  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 11:07:07am

187 Ayatollah Ghilmeini
I doubt the president would pursue legal action. However, the Republican party should expect nothing short of disclosure as to all the sources involved. This is definitely a criminal offense. Like Watergate, the heads should be rolling. I expect nothing less.

The public must demand that anything and everything is accomplished so the entire truth is made public. We surely have an impact and should not stop til CBS gasps for breath. As for Rather, he should be fired. Those that work with him should be fired as well. Lots of people knew this. Lots of people helped with this. The paper trail is a long one. For CBS to allude they did not know this doc was a fake is complete and utter bullshit. It is nothing short of an outright lie.

Along the same lines: The reason we hear nothing about Sandy Berger as just one example, is because the public have become too blasé. They are cold and immune anymore. And of course Berger is a democrat, hmm. Still, we have power. Lots of it! That aside, we live in a society which is no longer interested in the quest to find truth.
sad &shameful

198 andrew2  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 11:09:45am

More bias, Rather than objectivity.
Who is Dan Rather? FP Magazine

199 Renna  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 11:10:10am

The city councilman calling for ass@ssination and rape says:

"I don't want to give any clue as to whether I'm serious or whether I'm playing around," he said. "I just think people need to allow something they don't like in their society to exist. In general that's what democracy is all about."

You have to be tolerant of all viewpoints, especially mine of wanting to kill someone that has a different viewpoint.

200 Rayra[deleted]  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 11:16:58am
201 Rayra[deleted]  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 11:28:21am
202 Stuck-in-CA  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 11:33:49am

These arrogant media elitists are so busy scrutinizing everyone else, that they haven't quite figured out that it is now THEY who are being scrutinized. "How does it feel to have a magnifying glass shoved up your OWN a**es for a change, CBS?" LOL

All we want to know now from Dan Rather is....."Hey Dan-o, what did you know and when did you know it? And who directed the production of those forgeries?"

203 add925  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 11:36:33am

This photo is Viacom's problem, or it should be since CBS News management is passive.

Sumner Redstone, the blogosphere is about to speak LOUDLY and OFTEN against Snob Journalism like CBS News.

Embedded CBS Evening News Advertisers include:

Merck
Phillip Morris
Viagra

More to come as needed.....

pjWarriors United Against Viacom

204 czarernie  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 11:36:56am

#199 Reena
This guy's a real idiot. But thank god he's not a councilman,
YET!

205 Furious J  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 11:37:07am

sonofdad, if CBS were open and honest about their biases, it would not matter what was spotted in their company vehicles. However, CBS denies it has any sort of bias or agenda. This photo is a piece of evidence to the contrary. Nothing more.

The forged memos, on the other hand, are the Smoking Gun that prove beyond a reasonable doubt that CBS cares more about slamming a Republican president than it does about journalistic standards or integrity.

206 Crusader  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 11:37:28am

#145:

Your argument is weak. CBS pretends (poorly) to be "neutral" and presents its pieces as "objective"--as a result, expressions like found in the window of that van are out of order.

Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and LGF make no such claims to "neutrality"--and thus are free to admit their bias.

207 kawfytawk  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 11:37:34am

Frankly, I would love to see CBS's response to the van photo....especially now that they are finally admitting the documents are forged.

Of course Dan will just say its another personal attack and " I accept that" .....Is it just me or does that statement bug the living stew out you? Like he's taking a bullet for something. He always says "I accept that" in such a condescending way. grrrrr!

208 Rev-O  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 11:43:09am

#55

I live in Thousand Oaks (commonly known as Reagan Country/ Republican Stronghold #1). I'm pretty sure that a guy like this is watched like #6 on "The Prisoner". Maybe I'll get lucky and see him soon...

209 DimPenumbra  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 11:45:46am

#23 -- "Pathological" would be redundant... a "newspath" is the journalistic equivalent of a psychopath. :)

210 PepSquad  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 11:47:30am

Was Wallace inside that van waiting for his meatloaf?

211 sli  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 11:51:28am

RNC Chairman Ed Gillespie Statement on CBS

[Link: www.gop.com...]

212 geoffg  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 11:51:53am

Gosh, 20 minutes of posting at the DU and my priviledges are revoked. And I didn't use profanity or insults. I just disagreed and spoke the truth.

Shows the heat must really be rising.

213 TheMachine  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 11:53:05am

At first, I thought meteorologists were the biggest liars in the media, but CBS is giving me doubts of that...

214 Laserjock  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 11:53:56am

#131 Stringart

Thanks for the context - I agree with your points - whether they're a simple driver of a van, it is still CBS property, and there should not be a politically/ideologically charged legend or advertisment displayed therin.

Perhaps I was just floating a trial balloon to see if anyone would proffer a "free speech" argument and once again confuse the right to free speech with the rights to a platform for doing so, especially when that platform is not your property but your employer's.

215 bummer  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 11:56:10am

Poor Dan, poor old Saddam.

Maybe the two of them should get together and write a Country song.

216 Throbert McGee  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 11:56:50am
a couple of chattering college age female moonbats began discussing killing President Bush. One of them said that if she were afflicted with an terminal illness she would do it herself.

Wow, how very Ali McGraw...

"Love means never having to say you're sorry
for assassinating the President"

217 marine mom 91  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 12:04:13pm

Months ago, I read in the Enquirer that Kerry had an affair with that actress Morgan Fairchild when he was married to his first wife. Not a word about this any where else but if it had been about President Bush, the whole world would be talking about it.

also, each time Kerry attacks Bush for sending our jobs out of the country, I keep waiting for some one to tell the public that Kerry's wife has 28 Heniz plants in other countries. They may want to bring those jobs back over here, but hey, they can pay workers in India and those countries pennies a day to make their ketchup.

Talk about Hypocrisy!!!!

218 Lizard by the Bay  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 12:08:02pm

I honestly can't believe that the credibility or bias of CBS is even still debated. Doesn't anyone remember the Chandra Levy story from a few years back? Every news station and newspaper in the country was leading with this story (and if they weren't leading, it was always in the first five minutes or above the fold).

Except for CBS. Which just pretended the story didn't exist. Every night. Night after night. It was as if CBS was existing in an alternate universe where the Levy story wasn't news.

And why? Apparently it was a decision from Rather himself; he didn't want a Democrat Congressman hurt. Had a Republican been involved with his intern who later disappeared, would CBS have been as nice? Do I really have to answer that question?

219 Geepers  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 12:10:09pm

What the hell is wrong with this woman?

Despite her linguistic prowess and her worldliness, Heinz Kerry has, at times, a deaf ear for the nuances of slang, code, condescension, and vulgarity in English—for the emotion of the language. “There are these bizarre moments that make you shudder,” the Kerry adviser said. “Like calling herself African-American to black audiences.” She dismissed voters skeptical of her husband’s health-care proposals as “idiots,” and, in a television interview with a Pittsburgh anchorwoman, employed the word “scumbags” to describe some of her detractors. I doubt that she knows the literal meaning of “scumbag,” but perhaps, after forty years in America, nearly thirty of them as a political wife, observing how the flaws and contradictions of a personality as complex as hers are melted down for ammunition by the other side, she should have learned it. Close friends attribute her lapses of discretion to “naïveté.” Heinz Kerry says that they are a form of resistance to enforced conformity. “I don’t like to be told, for told’s sake,” how to behave, she says, “because I lived in a dictatorship for too long.”

You think you should get a pass on calling my mom an "idiot" because you once lived in a dictatorship.
Fuck you Teresa.

THE CANDIDATE’S WIFE

220 piglet  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 12:11:40pm
Being a Fine Arts person, I read part of the original "coastal" script... putrid! The allegedly cleaned-up version for us fly-overs is not much better. At least they left out the part where the older woman seduces a VERY young teen, showing her that she doesn't need a man to pleasure herself.

Playwright Eve Ensler has moved on to writing poems glorifing suicide bombers and visiting both Israeli victims of suicide bombings and the families of the bombers. Spit!

[Link: www.nobloodforoil.org...]

Eve Ensler read a poem based on the teenage (Palestinian) suicide bomber who turned back but is still being held in prison, a lady whose fiancé, Kassim, had just died as a result of the continuous violence (which motivated her suicidal reaction): “Now my hair is water, something has left me; I do not know what it is….I pictured them assembling your body like a puzzle, Kassim, I wrapped myself in your scarf….It could have been your baby but it was a bomb like an overgrown tumor…..To stand in our places, to get ready to die, then suddenly the plaza became faces, the life-giving blue sky bigger than the plaza, Kassim, and I couldn’t do it and as I turned back his body exploded. I don’t mind being in prison, I don’t have to pretend I’m free; everyone is finished with me. Make babies, so many babies, Palestinian babies, babies, babies….”


"But is still held in prison!" Spit. THe bitch turned back because her handlers asked her to dress imodestly ( like an Israeli) and told her to blow herself up if about to be caught, even if she wasn't in a poistion to kill a lot of jews. Spit feh!

221 jrdroll  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 12:13:38pm
Eve Ensler read a poem


Probably a "vaginia moronlogue"

222 Furious J  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 12:16:01pm
Doesn't anyone remember the Chandra Levy story from a few years back? Every news station and newspaper in the country was leading with this story (and if they weren't leading, it was always in the first five minutes or above the fold).

I remember. It was in July and August 2001. And then, September 11 was brought to us, and we all said, "How foolish we were to think the Chandra Levy case was worthy of so much news coverage."

I fear that some horrific attack awaits us in the weeks ahead that will make us marvel at the time we spent discussing the forged memos.

223 Gargamel  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 12:16:20pm

a girl called Alex

Welcome to LGF! Its nice to see so many new faces :)

224 Geepers  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 12:18:38pm

geoffg (#212),

Gosh, 20 minutes of posting at the DU and my priviledges are revoked. And I didn't use profanity or insults. I just disagreed and spoke the truth.

Shows the heat must really be rising.

You ain't kiddin'

Check this out:

New York: Kerry 49% Bush 44%

September 20, 2004--John Kerry's lead in New York is down to single digits. The Empire State, among the bluest of the Blue States from Election 2000, is still in the Kerry column for our Electoral College projections, but the raw numbers are stunning.

Confirming findings found in other recent polls, Rasmussen Reports shows John Kerry leading George Bush by merely five percentage points, 49% to 44%. Four years ago, Al Gore defeated Bush to carry New York by a 25 point margin. Our last New York survey found Kerry up by 19 points.

Yow!

225 rufusalice  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 12:20:10pm

I haven't had a chance to read all the comments yet, so someone might have already posted this about Rather's hypocrisy.

In 1953, Rather graduated with a degree in journalism from Sam Houston State Teachers College. He had already been working for Associated Press and then United Press International and a few radio stations as a “stringer” reporting stories that happened in Huntsville north of Houston. But being in college gave Rather a semester-by-semester student deferment from being drafted into the Korean War.
After Rather graduated, “the way he got around being eligible for the draft was he joined a reserve unit – Army reserve,” wrote B.G. Burkett, co-author of the book Stolen Valor. Rather dropped out of the reserves as soon as the Korean War ended in armistice. Whether Rather used journalist or related politician connections to get into the Army reserves, as he would later accuse President George W. Bush of doing in the Texas Air National Guard, is unknown.

And there's much, much more...

Who is Dan Rather?

226 NeilV  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 12:41:30pm

With regrards to Eve Ensler and the Vagina monologs.
If a bunch of us Right wing guys, came up with the penis monologs, we would rightly be considerd a bit daft.
However Eve,Jane'Fungus' Fonda and there coterie of Hillarys,pampered, village idiots are out sniffing each others back sides and thinking its art.
Its called too much money and no sense.
I saw them getting out the vote in there little pink t shirts and cant help but laugh .
I could not make up such nonsense if I tried .Its like a bizzare episode of MAd TV but its real.
I think of them more like the vaginalwart society.
Bunch of skanky old bints ,no man would want to be with anyway.
I dont know, but I wonder if TURAYZUH is into the whole Monolog sensation.
I have some documents to prove it....call bring filthy Lucre

227 trigger girlie  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 12:50:08pm

#145 sonofdad
"There can be no doubt in anyone's mind how Charles feels about John Kerry, yet he continues to "report the news"."


The tiny little difference is that CBS is a nation-wide news agency that HAS to be unbiased (which it's not) and that reports the news to millions of viewers who turn their TVs on from millions of homes by professional (?) journalists. Charles, however, is a not suggesting that he is a known wide newscast agency (although for many of us he is), is not a professional journalist, and you have to know this website to go here and look for news/exchange you opinions. CBS REPORTS the news, while Charles tells us about them and explains them to us. So learn to tell the difference, ugly troll.

228 Bob with one O  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 12:53:04pm

Rayra,

Recruiters lie? News to me.

: )

229 Globular Cluster  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 1:02:05pm

Hey I just got some hate mail!

Yo dude, read your post accusing Karl Rove of setting up Dan "the moron"
Rather.
As of today, you misspoke. W

Al Evang.....


This is what I get for quoting DUmmy moonbats on LGF.

230 RickZ  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 1:07:05pm

# 227 trigger girlie:

The tiny little difference is that CBS is a nation-wide news agency that HAS to be unbiased (which it's not) and that reports the news to millions of viewers who turn their TVs on from millions of homes by professional (?) journalists.

The more salient point is that to get to your tv, they are using PUBLIC AIRWAVES. What they have done, IMO, constitutes a breach of contract and trust. At the very least, CBS should have its 'all the news we make up' programs shut down, with CBS forced to put up a black screen with the words "Due to Violation of FCC Rules, We Are Forced to Temporarily Suspend Our National News Broadcasts." Let that go a week or two and see how many viewers CBS retains.

231 Bayonet  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 1:07:56pm

Re: Picture of Van - HOW UNFAIR!!

Now really folks, don't you think you could see these bumper stickers in the window of a C-BS van or on someone's desk at C-BS NEWS???????

a. "BUSH CHENEY 2004"
b. "Guns Don't Kill People - Abortion Kills People"
c. "Ain't FONDA JANE"
d. ""Never Mind the Village - Where Are The Parents?"
e. "Save Baby Seals - Club a Liberal"
f. "Abortion - 1 Dead, 1 Wounded"
g. "Land of The FREE - Because of The BRAVE"

Come on, let's be Fair.

Pajamarines - "We Handle The Truth"
HuuRah

232 Cam  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 1:08:54pm

#229 Globular Cluster:

Ah hell. I never get hate mail.

:-(

233 Globular Cluster  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 1:11:24pm

#232 Cam

LOL Cam, I'll send you some! :-)

Do I just ignore it or should I respond? The guy's first name is Adolph. :-/

234 Cam  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 1:14:12pm

#233 Globular Cluster:

LMAO! Can you do a John Cleese-ian impression of him goosestepping 'round your office?

;-)

235 Egfrow  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 1:14:50pm

All the Media outlets seem to be saying the same thing about Burkett. They are saying is has an issue with Bush about medical benfits from Being in the "Texas National Guard". They are all trying to spins this like Burkett is linked to Bush in the National Guard. This a very subtle and dangerous tactic. It has to be pointed out and corrected with the same persistance that the fake Memos have brought to light. I heard CNN, FOX, MSNBC, CBS use the same statement today.

1. Bush was in the Texas "AIR" National Guard.

2. Burkett was in the "ARMY" National Guard

We need to make it clear to the Media that they have nothing to do with each other. They are seperate and unrealated military branches. The Media seems to be bent is blurring this major detail.

236 bruder  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 1:21:44pm

The original pictures, story, and close-ups of the CBS "Unbiased" van are on Communists For Kerry site -www.communistsforkerry.com

237 skoi  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 1:22:48pm

#99 Rayra and others:

I agree. My husband works for the City of Philadelphia-- in a unionized (AFSCME) work place. There is Kerry agit-prop on the bulletin boards in the office-- a violation of city rules that basically state: no public posting of electioneering/political material at work. Public employees-- paid on the taxpayers' dime can't appear to be advocating either way because by extension the city itself appears biased.

He complained, but since it had the union stamp on it-- a rally for Kerry sponsored by the union, they said it was all right. Nothing could be done about it.

238 sli  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 1:24:09pm

OT
Foreign election observers arrive in U.S.
Team looking for evidence of 'disenfranchisement'

[Link: www.worldnetdaily.com...]

It looks like they are coming to my state. I hope not there will be hell tp pay if they show up.

239 greenmiler  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 1:28:42pm

Hey Charles, I dare you to redo the two signs in the window using Microsoft Word and superimbose them to flash back and forth!!he he he

240 greenmiler  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 1:30:41pm

...and then do it with a '73 selectric to show the signs weren't done in the 70s either!

241 cathyf  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 1:31:00pm

I don't want anybody to get hurt feelings, but I would like to point out that we can't be particularly confident of the authenticity of the pics. We have no way of being reasonably sure that they are not faked. We've all seen some great photoshop fakes out there and laughed together about them. So we know the technical ease of faking a photo like this. And Charles can not be 100% sure that whomever sent those pictures is the person that he/she claims.

While I think that the pics are probably real, I'm a little uncomfortable with the notion that somebody could have taken a picture of a van with some totally innocuous sign ("parking spot 6" or "oil changed 8/16/04") and photoshopped the slogan in. And then claims, "well the picture was fake but accurate..." It cuts a little close, ya' know?

cathy :-)

242 noshariaincanada  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 1:42:08pm

Rather weaseling out in realtime.

Disgusting.

243 truthseeker2k4  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 1:53:32pm

"Mr. Bush's official position, that he told his superiors that he was 'going to Alabama and they agreed,' is suspiciously convenient. 1972 was a time of war. Mr. Bush's contention that he was able to alter his commitment to his unit by submitting a simple request is particularly galling to those who were stationed in the jungles of Vietnam in 1972 and those whose tour of duty has been indefinitely extended in Iraq."


[Link: www.truthout.org...]

244 truthseeker2k4  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 1:55:38pm

#238 "It looks like they are coming to my state. I hope not there will be hell tp pay if they show up."

Lucky for you the assault weapons ban just expired, eh?

245 sli  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 1:59:30pm

#244 I live in the old west everyone here is armed up the ass.

246 Dave the.....  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 2:00:36pm

I totally forgot about this. When I went to get my drivers license renewed recently, one of the ladies working there had a Kerry/Edwards button on. This was a very busy office as it did all sorts of things (which I have no idea what, but they were very busy).

Not picking on public employees, but if an employee out in the private sector in such a high profile job would do that, first she'd be asked to remove it, then asked to go home until she did remove it.

247 greenmiler  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 2:10:37pm

#243

particularly galling to those who were stationed in the jungles of Vietnam in 1972

..some Jack-leg named Kerry had recently called them all butchers, murders and rapist, making the torturers in the Hanoi Hilton a lot happier, beat them in the nite and play 'Kerry-Live in Washigton' at nite

248 Clutch  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 2:39:59pm

"Paja-marine"? I like it, I like it!!!

The Paja-Marine Corps Hymn

"From the blog of Little Green Footballs and the blog of Powerline,
Bloggers in pajamas, are kicking M.S.M behind.
Pointing out the mainstream's bias, Rather's clock they did clean,
They are proud to claim the title of Weblog Paja-Marines.

Men in baggy boxer shorts, women in their sleek nightgowns;
Fighting against the lib'rl bias that the mainstream press spreads 'round.
The warriors of the Blogosphere are giving CBS bad dreams,
You will find them always on the job - The Weblog Paja-Marines.

Here's health to you and to our Blogs, To which we are proud to post;
When the blogs turn up the heat, the mainstream press will roast!
If you ever make a posting that is bogus or unclean,
Prepare to get your ass fact-checked by the Weblog Paja-Marines!

Oooo-RAH!"

(With most sincere apologies to the USMC, which this son of a wingnut admires greatly! Don't kill me...)

249 Sergio  Mon, Sep 20, 2004 4:35:54pm

Here's an idea: auction off their allotted bandwidth on the electromagnetic spectrum, and use the money to fund cspan indefinitely.

CBS has made untold millions, nay billions, over the years, by using airwaves that they pay nothing for. Zero. They're supposed to do some kind of "public service" - news I think, or something. Maybe a communications lawyer can speak to this.

Anyway, the bandwidth on the spectrum that they eat up with their broadcasts could be much better used for Wi-Fi or cell phones.

Auction off their spectrum!

Is this a crazy idea? I don't know. Like I said, maybe some knowledgeable LGF person can speak to this.

250 The Other Les  Tue, Sep 21, 2004 1:11:59am

#216 Throbert McGee

a couple of chattering college age female moonbats began discussing killing President Bush. One of them said that if she were afflicted with an terminal illness she would do it herself.

Wow, how very Ali McGraw...

"Love means never having to say you're sorry
for assassinating the President"


Being Ali McGraw means never having to think...

I suspect that if I had cut in and challenged those obviously ignorant induhviduals to name one strategic objective that was ever achieved by a big name assassin I probably would have drawn a blank stare.

251 Furious J  Tue, Sep 21, 2004 3:29:59am

#235 egfrow --- Actually, I am willing to attribute that to ignorance and stupidity rather than malice. The average MSM "journalist" knows has as much interest in and knowledge of the military as the average Muslim cleric has of gynecology.


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