First? I've never been first!

How very delicious!

Things that have been "disappeared" seem to be more and more common these days.

It is up to the strong to lead the sheep from danger.

The page at RollingStone.com that we linked to (and quoted) in this entry from March 2003, about Yusuf Islam’s deportation from Israel for donating to Hamas, has been disappeared.

Here's one with the same details, from our good good pals at the Guardian:

Israel tuns away former Cat Stevens - July 14, 2000

Just wait for CAIR, the ACLU, and Daily Kos to pounce all over this -- However, I wonder what would have prompted the government to put him on that list?

My favorite part of this piece from the unbiased media:

Officials had no details about why the peace activist might be considered a risk to the United States.

In Bushitler's Amerikka, "peace activists" are a threat, you see.

But AP wants you to know that when he is not donating money to peope who murder jewish children he has spoken out:

slam recently condemned the school seizure by militants in Beslan, Russia, earlier this month that left more than 300 dead, nearly half of them children.

In a statement on his Web site, he wrote, ``Crimes against innocent bystanders taken hostage in any circumstance have no foundation whatsoever in the life of Islam and the model example of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him.''

Peace train sounding louder my ass.

An uncle of mine worked at A&M record, and did tours with Cat Stevens.

I still actually have a Cat Stevens yo-yo (how fitting, it seems).

My uncle noted that he wasn't always insane, but that he slowly seemed to get nuttier and nuttier.

Oh how I wish I had someone to talk to
I'm in an awful way

Extra special attention needs to be paid to the Muslim converts. Anybody who willingly converts to the perverted death cult is more likely to be dangerous.

Just my observation...

"If you want to sing out, sing out! If you want to be free, be free! But if you criticize the Prophet (PBUH) we'll sentence you to death, you know that you will."

Maybe Stevens deserves some extra scrutiny, maybe he deserved to be detained once the plane landed...but diverting the plane from DC to Maine because he's on board? What did they think he'd do? Slam through the cockpit door with his guitar? Drive the passengers to mass suicide with his off-key singing? I swear, sometimes I think we're letting the war on terror turns us into a nation of frightened Chicken Littles.

The page at RollingStone.com that we linked to (and quoted) in this entry from March 2003, about Yusuf Islam’s deportation from Israel for donating to Hamas, has been disappeared.

???

Charles...grammar check...LOL

j/k I know you're working hard...and it's late...

I would do the same...

And let's not forget his support of the Rushdie Death Sentence Fatwa:

His comments in 1989 concerning Salman Rushdie after the publication of Rushdie's novel The Satanic Verses provoked controversy. During this time period an Islamic fatwa (religious ruling) was issued, holding that it was an obligation of Muslims to kill Salman Rushdie. Yusuf Islam publicly stated that Rushdie was indeed guilty of blasphemy against Islam, and Rushdie deserved to be killed. This led to a public outcry, and a drop in record sales. In response to this criticism, Yusuf Islam has since clarified that he believes that a death sentence can only be carried out by the authority of a court in an Islamic society, and that he is opposed to anyone taking the law into their own hands by murdering Rushdie.

That screams "peace activist."

Please.

#12 Bob

Yusuf Islam has raised and donated millions of dollars for radical Islamist causes, and was a fervent supporter of the untimely death of Salman Rushdie.

Just exactly what evidence do you need?

Charles...grammar check...LOL

Actually, this is a nuanced use of the word -- like "grow the economy".

And btw, from the bottom of the Wikipedia link I just posted in #14:

In 2004, the U.S. Transportation Security Administration denied him entrance to the U.S., saying that his name had popped up on a TSA watch list.

That was fast!

Who updates that place?

Now they make "Cat" sound like he should get the Noble Peace Prize. So many peacenik songs; so much sympathy for Hamas.

You can't trust Muslims just because they say they are against terrorism. They have redefined the word "terrorism" to mean the use of force in self-defense by Israel and the U.S.

Muslims who are truly against terrorism will disassociate themselves completely from the "Palestinians." But very few do.

#5 APH:

However, I wonder what would have prompted the government to put him on that list?

How about:

- openly supporting the murderous scumbags of Hamas, and;

- openly supporting the "fatwa" on Salman Rushdie.

/Know thine enemy

Copied in part from my post on another thread, in response to why arrest a peace activist:

Raise money for the jihadis, speaking events for the Iranians, PR crap for CAIR.

Not every jihadi is a gunman. For every shooter, a slew of lawyers, fundraisers and other assorted supporters stand behind them.

The one you think is harmless is the one who'll slip the knife in your back.

Sort of OT.

I just watched the video of the beheading of the second American. I had only watched one other one. This one I had the sound on, and it was far, far worse than the other, quicker one of I think an Egyptian. I'm guessing they save the dull knives for the Americans.

The next time I hear someone refer to these civilians over there rebuilding Iraq as "mercenaries" who deserve death I'm going to f*cking MAKE them watch this. People can disagree with the Iraq war and be normal, they can disagree with civilians going over as contractors, but acting like this is OK is horrendous. These pigs with no shame don't even use a "humane" bullet--they sawed the guy's head off as he struggled and made horrible noises. While they videotaped it. And you know there are people out there watching it CHEERING. Even if it was my enemy I don't think I could cheer something as gruesome as this, much less some civilian who never killed anyone.

OK, I just needed to vent and I guess I'm stating the obvious at this point. It was a demonic video.

test

Sheesh, that RadioMattM keeps using my computer and forgetting to "dissapear" his name. #19 was me, not him.

"I've been walking in a moon shadow. Moon shadow moon shadow. Hopping and skipping in a moon shadow. Moon shadow moon shadow."

"And if I ever lose my hands; all my fingers, palms and wedding bands... Oh if I ever lose my hands, oh ii-ii-ii-if, I won't have to shave no more."

"And if I ever lose my eyes, for peeping women's inner thighs, oh if I ever lose my eyes, oh ii-ii-ii-if, my daughter won't have to wear veils no more."

"And if I ever lose my head, oh I won't cry and I won't beg. And if I ever lose my head, oh ii-ii-ii-if, I won't have to wear a blindfold no more."

"And if I ever lose my dick, shrivelled down one eighth inch thick, oh if I ever lose my dick, oh ii-ii-ii-if, IT'S A SPELL PUT ON ME BY THOSE GODDAMN JEWS!"

"I've been walking in a moon shadow. Moon shadow moon shadow. Swinging my sword in a moon shadow. Moon shadow moon shadow."

Sorry to post that off topic rant. I didn't mean to subject you all to that.

OT: For those who asked in earlier threads, The Phil Parlock story has been resolved, and to paraphrase Peter Pan, the kid is not his son. Another L³ attempt to gin up a fake scandal collapses on top of them!

For those still interested:

Just received a call from the IUPAT, which has now identified the union member who grabbed the Bush/Cheney sign from Phil Parlock's daughter and threw the pieces at the family as they left the event. "We are taking steps to deal with the individual," the union told me. Meanwhile, President Bush sent the little girl a new sign that read:

"Dear Sophia, Thank you for supporting my campaign. I understand someone tore up your sign. So I am sending you a new sign and a signed picture."

Sweet.

Link is from Michelle Malkin's site.

The real question is ...

How many million dollars will Norman Mineta fine the airline for diverting Yusuf's sorry ass?

cordy, don't apologise, we all feel that way. The people who commit these acts are fucking barbarians.

There is a special place in hell.

Reserved.

For.

Them.

Fucking Barbarians.

#13 Andrew B.:

has been disappeared

I believe that this is a reference to an expression that entered the vernacular due to our good friend, dictator-for-life Augusto Pinochet. Dissidents in his Argentina did not "disappear" which can imply accident or incompetence, but rather "were disappeared", with the active voice indicating that someone had had an active role in their disappearance.

I think you need to learn Spanish - just kidding, referring only to your tit-for-tat with foreign devil on another thread.

;-)

Muslims can claim they are against terrorism until they are blue in the face. Even The Father of Modern Terrorism himself, Yaser Arafat, claims he is against "terrorism."

The acid test is support for the Palestinians. Anyone who supports the Palestinians' phony grievances is a terrorist supporter.

It's that simple.

#1 The Lone Platypus

First? I've never been first!

I wish Charles had a policy of deleting posts that yelled "First!" It would end such bone-head silliness once and for all.

I'm Being Followed by a Moonbat-Oh

Charles, I'm really surprised no one has said this yet on this thread: That is the funniest headline you've ever written.

#15

Just exactly what evidence do you need?

Evidence that an aged blowhard of an ex-singer was such a grave threat to the people on the plane, or to the residents of Washington DC, that the flight had to be diverted. Again, if you want to detain the guy and kick him out of the country once the plane lands, I've got no objections. Alerting the flight crew about Stevens/Islam's identity might have also been worth doing.

But senselessly inconveniencing the passangers by diverting the flight was more than a little ridiculous. And sadly, it's just one of many hysterical overreactions that the keystone cops at the TSA have shown since they were put on the public dole.

Bob

Islam is a foreign national who was denied the privilege of entering the United States due to his terrorist connections.

Domo arigato, Mr. Moonbato,
My name was Cat Stevens
Domo arigato, Mr. Mr. Moonbato,
Then I switched to Islam

You're wondering who I am - mulsim or American
My mind lost to Islam, I am the moonbat man

*Apologies to Styx

Cam:

Hey!

(#34) zombie

Is your site back up?

I sent the link to my sister (Berkeley grad, SF resident), but she said it wasn't working.

I heard he complained about the in-flight movie. Not enough be-headings.

#30 cam

You don't know what you are talking about.

1. Pinochet is Chilean, not Argentinian.

2. The biased media taught you that Allende, the Marxist, was good and Pinochet, the man who defended Chile's Constitution, is bad.

3. Pinochet acted in response to a resolution passed by Chile's elected parliament calling on the armed forces to put a stop to Allende's wholesale violations of Chile's Constitution.

4. Note that Pinochet handed the reigns of government back to the people. There was a peaceful transition back to elections. Allende would never have done that.

#38 Fay:

Hey back! Did you get my email sketching out my tale of woe on Sat'y. I will craft a longer one once I'm not so pissed off.

;-)

Anybody post pics yet?

The acid test to determine is a "moderate" Muslim:

"Do you think ex-Muslims should be executed for apostay?"

One word response, please...

"Peace train holy roller" my Zionist backside.

Sorry, but I truly loathe this scumbag. I resent the fact that I like his (former self's) music.

May I suggest a title for a new com-pile-ation album, featuring hit minaret chants with plenty of AK-47 supplied rhythm?

Pee for the Killerman

No, no you've got it wrong. He wanted in-flight be-headings.

For anyone who wants to read that disappeared article, just paste this into the URL:

[Link: 64.233.161.104...]

What a piece of shit

Evidence that an aged blowhard of an ex-singer was such a grave threat to the people on the plane, or to the residents of Washington DC, that the flight had to be diverted.

So basically, if he enters the US with a nuke in a suitcase, then it's OK to divert him, but if he enters, say as a part of a sleeper cell or to conduct communications with the terrorists or to raise funds for the terrorists, then it's OK to come. Hmm...

And by the way:

Flight 919 eventually continued on to Dulles after Islam was removed from the flight.

#33:

I wish Charles had a policy of deleting posts that yelled "First!" It would end such bone-head silliness once and for all.

"Fun bad! Hulk smash!"

It is not the RS article, but it is about the same thing.

Can we put Kofi Annan on the same plane?

If I'd been GWB yesterday, I'd have bitch-slapped Annan into next week, instead of shaking his hand. Sorry bastard.

I'm hoping Fox keeps the spotlight on the Oil for Food thing.

Charles (and fellow lizards), let's find all the Oil for Food-related stuff we can and put it up here, to force the MSM to pick this up. We need for Annan to be gone.

#41 ibrodsky:

Thank you so much for that, although I think my mangling of names can be traced more to my current level of drunkeness than to the biased media or my liberal schooling, or any other such factor.

But I appreciate the correction all the same.

I wish Charles had a policy of deleting posts that yelled "First!" It would end such bone-head silliness once and for all.

God knows we're all deadly serious here...

#31 You're absolutely correct.

This goes double for Westerners who convert to Islam and support the Palestinians.

Can't wait for the Hollywood lunatics to come out of the woodwork in support of their comerade using this as evidence of the "New McCarthyism" under Bush.

Bet the media doesn't cover one word of his terrorist-supporting statements.

Thank God for the internet!

OT but protest warrior needs people for an event this Sunday in SF

Subject: Bay Area Call To Action-Sunday 9/21/04

I just got this email from SFVoice4Israel. It is for this Sunday, Sept 21, 2004. It is not an official operation due to time constraints. We are going to meet at 3:45 at Ashby Bart. At 4:00, we will walk to Berkely to meet up with SFV4I (please try to be there on time, if we are not there go to the SFV4I meetup spot). We are going to show support for the Wall in Israel which has saved lives and dramatically decreased successful suicide bombing attempts. If you are going to make it, please go to the command and control forum and post a message that you are coming so I have an idea of how many people are going to show up. Thanks and hope to see some of you there. Todd Here is the email: September 26, Sunday 4 p.m. 3105 Shattuck Avenue, Berkeley (One Block from Ashby BART) On Sunday evening, September 26th, please join us to show support for the Israeli anti-terrorism barrier and protest against those that seek Israel's destruction. Jews for a Free Palestine in conjunction with MECA, a notorious anti-Israel organization, are hosting a major event to demand that the barrier be torn down. They make no distinction between those parts of the barrier that are on the so-called green line, and those that are not. Featured will be speakers Susan Greene and Uda Walker, both prominent Bay Area opponents of Israel's existence. The anti-terrorism barrier has already saved countless lives and has helped bring back life to Israeli cities that for the past several years have been living under the constant threat of terror. Come with your signs, Israeli and USA flags, and join us in front of the La Peña Cultural Center in Berkeley at 4PM, Sunday September 26th. 3105 Shattuck Avenue, Berkeley (One Block from Ashby BART.) For directions, visit [Link: www.lapena.org...] San Francisco Voice For Israel.

Calling Zombie!I am going.would love to meet you.

#14 SoCalJustice

Yusuf Islam has since clarified that he believes that a death sentence can only be carried out by the authority of a court in an Islamic society, and that he is opposed to anyone taking the law into their own hands by murdering Rushdie.

Just a new spin on the "no controlling legal authority" concept.

Come on, some old hippy turned Muslim might be an el cubo maximo, but security threat? Be Real! It makes the administration look like Keystone Cops and all the anti-profiling legions will say "gotcha!".

#50:

GWB is practising the old adage: do not murder a man who is committing suicide.

#15 and #35 - I agree with Bob in this one, I can't imagine how such a high profile person could be a threat worthy of diverting an entire plane - Deal with him once the plane lands...

OT: Charles gets a mention in the Boston Herald. Taken at (type)face value, memos provide a font of info

Bloggers immediately focused on the documents' typeface, letter spacing and ``th'' superscript, saying they could not have been produced by a 1970s typewriter. Charles Johnson of [Link: www.littlegreenfootballs.com...] claimed he made a perfect match for the documents by using Microsoft Word's Times New Roman script.

"Claimed"? Claimed?

I believe that this is a reference to an expression that entered the vernacular due to our good friend, dictator-for-life Augusto Pinochet. Dissidents in his Argentina did not "disappear" which can imply accident or incompetence, but rather "were disappeared",

Cam, thank you for elucidating the etymology of the transitive form.

Cam, yea, got the email. I tried emailing the pics but I think a fuel tank landed on them! Will try again!

#13 Andrew
Charles...grammar check...LOL

Andrew, I think Charles wrote has been disappeared on purpose. It is a sarcastic way of saying that it did not disappear by itself, but was manipulatied by the media.

#30 Cam 

LOL

Andrew, "disappeared" in this context has a particular meaning. I think it first entered language as a term to describe what happened to people in South America who one day just vanished and it is suspected that the government or a political party abducted and murdered them.

So if someone says something was disappeared, it means it was removed, no record of its removal was left, and the removal was done or ordered by sinister political forces. It is the odd syntax, the mismatch of verb and past participle, that signals this meaning.

#51 cam

Nothing personal. I know the lies about what happened in Chile have been repeated for so many years in so many ways most people just assume they are true. I was duped about Chile for a long time myself.

In fact, it was only about one year ago that I learned that Chile's elected parliament passed a resolution stating that if Allende did not stop shutting down newspapers and expropriating property owners it was the duty of the armed forces to remove him.

ahhh...

My faux pas

Will someone please explain to me the sheer insanity of this "news story" posted 8 minutes ago by Reuters:

We may release a notorious female Saddam germ warfare specialist -- after both hostages have been beheaded. The worst of both worlds:

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - One of two Iraqi female scientists in U.S. detention could be released on Wednesday, a senior Justice Ministry official said.

Kidnappers who say they have killed two Americans and are still holding a British hostage are demanding that female Iraqi prisoners be released.

The official, who asked not to be named, said that Rihab Taha, a biological weapons scientist dubbed "Dr Germ" by U.S. soldiers, could be freed as part of a review of her detention.

"It is possible, God willing. Her case has been under review," he said.

"God willing"??? Who is this guy? A jihadi mole or what?

OT: Oliver Willis did change his link in his Charles-bashing post, as Charles predicted he would. He also posted the following [email address redacted]:

BTW, if you would like to send spam or love to one of Chucky's minions, xxx@aol.com would be a good address to share.

Classy.

Jeehootus. The article fronted on Fox News Online makes the HS folks look like Chicken Little. No mention of Stevens' terror connections.

I can hear it over the watercooler tomorrow: That moron Bush deported Cat Stevens for re-releasing "Peace Train"!!

/sigh

#30 cam

You don't know what you are talking about.

1. Pinochet is Chilean, not Argentinian.

Same shit, different day.

#65 Security Mom, exactly:

See here and here and here.

#21 cordy:

Thanks for watching. I'm going to in the next few days. I just have to get my nerve up. I know if I died like that I wouldn't want someone to turn away and go in the next room and leave me to die alone. So I'll watch too. G*d Bless You!

gee, and I think my library just accepted a audio tape on Islam donated by CAIR and featuring the voice of the artist formerly known as cat stevens.

#39 SoCalJustice

(#34) zombie
Is your site back up?

Not consistently. It was up for a short time, then taken offline again. I think permanently this time. I've started a new Web site with a new hoster, but due to my technological idiocy and the slow machinations of bureaucracy, it's not online yet. Believe me, I am working on it relentlessly, in my incompetent way. I'll let everyone know when I'm finally back online.

I am truly pained by this turn of events.

#41 ibrodsky:

To clarify:

Yes I did misspeak. I was referring to the junta that was the de facto ruling party of Argentina in the mid 70's, early 80's, where the term the disappeareds and to be disappeared originated. I haven't the slightest idea why my befogged brain inserted the name Pinochet, when in fact there were a number of generals acting in concert.

That said, it was in fact Argentina. I am more than happy to be corrected, but you may find people inclined to be educated by you you if you leave out such smarmy phrases as

You don't know what you are talking about.

and

The biased media taught you

Not to offend, but you haven't the foggies notion of what my education consisted of, or by whom it was given. For all you know, I could have been home-schooled on a clothing optional commune outside of MarryYourSister, North Dakota.

As a former roommate of mine used to sing when we were both in college, riffing on the Cat Stevens tune "Moonshadow," and aware of his conversion: "I'm being followed by a big Muslim, big Muslim, big Muslim!"

#71 Globular Cluster

Do you think it's possible that the liberal media that demonizes Bush did the same to Pinochet?

#71 Globular Cluster:

LOL!

For all you know, I could have been home-schooled on a clothing optional commune outside of MarryYourSister, North Dakota.

That would explain alot! ;)

#36 and 47

What part of "kick him out of the country once the plane lands" didn't you understand? There's nothing absurd about sending Stevens' Islamist ass on the first flight home. There's plenty absurd about diverting a friggin commercial airliner over this clown.

Cam:

I could have been home-schooled on a clothing optional commune outside of MarryYourSister, North Dakota.

Pictures? (sorry, couldn't resist, I'll piss off to bed now!)

#54 mbruce
OT but protest warrior needs people for an event this Sunday in SF
...
Calling Zombie!I am going.would love to meet you.

Sorry, can't make it to this one. No can do.

#80 Globular Cluster:

LOL! Hey, MarryYourSister is lovely this time of year.

And ibrodsky, I just re-read my post and see I came accross as a little snarky, and I apologize. no harm, no foul.

If his name is on the list he should be taken off the plane.

People who fly know that these types of delays can happen.

#6
From the article
"Officials had no details about why the peace activist might be considered a risk to the United States..."

It does not have to suggest that people are clueless and/or suggest that peace activist are a threat.

Here's the original story from Rolling Stone, archived at the Internet Archive. Apologies if someone already posted it and I missed it.

#76 cam

If I was rough on you at first, it was because you seemed to be reciting what I consider a Big Lie.

However, I accepted (in my follow up post) your explanation that you've been drinking and had two very different situations confused.

(#75) zombie

Good luck. I wish I could help - but I don't have a techie bone in my body.

OT

Shawn Green faces decision

Los Angeles Dodgers first baseman Shawn Green does not want to discuss whether he'll play next weekend in two key games against the Giants on Yom Kippur, the holiest holiday on the Jewish calendar.

Los Angeles leads San Francisco by 2½ games in the NL West with 13 games left.

Yom Kippur starts at sunset Friday, and the three-game series at San Francisco starts that night. Saturday's game was given a 1:05 p.m. PDT start because it will be televised by Fox, and the Jewish Day of Atonement does not end until sunset that night.

"I'm not talking about it yet," Green said Sunday after his two-run, ninth-inning homer lifted Los Angeles over Colorado 7-6. "I don't want the media making a big deal out of it."

Asked if he had decided, but just didn't want to say yet, Green responded: "I just don't want to talk about it yet."

Green has missed only 10 of 797 games in nearly five seasons with the Dodgers -- including Sept. 26, 2001, when he observed Yom Kippur and ended a streak of 415 consecutive games played.

The Dodgers lost today, and the Giants won - so they only have a 1^1/2 game lead. They're making his decision even tougher.

#81 Bob24:

I think - but I certainly don't know for sure - that, being on the watch list, Stevens should never have been allowed to board the plane in the first place. And one certainly wouldn't want the flight crew to be forced to assess each and every potential terrorist - whilst in the air - based on whether or not the lead flight attendant thought he had "a really boss album" when she was 15. On the list must equal stopping plane.

A f'rinstance - that jackass shoe bomber. The French authorities had in place a series of protocols in place precisely to stop people just like him from boarding a plane. He set off every red flag - one way ticket, paid with cash, lsat minute, etc. etc., but someone at the ticket counter chose to ignore this and allowed him on the flight. There must be stringent rules in place, with few or no exceptions, and the burden of deciding what to do or where to go should not fall on the shoulders of the flight crew.

84# Cam

Not that I haven't been drinking myself... ;-)

Warblogs has report of another soldier getting beat up for wearing an Iraqi Freedom t-shirt at a TOBY KEITH concert no less

[Link: www.blogsofwar.com...]

Time to get the moon BAT out.

Guaranteed not to happen in my country. The attacker wouldn't have made it out of the parking lot.

Time for bed -- hope y'all don't mind if I disappear myself from this illuminating conversation.

Bob -- whatever. Know of a more enlightened procedure for not letting terrorists into the country?

#82 Fay:

G'night Fay!

For all you know, I could have been home-schooled on a clothing optional commune outside of MarryYourSister, North Dakota.

My kids are home schooled. And they study in their pajamas. (I'm hoping they'll grow up to be just like Charles.)

#90 ibrodsky:

LOL!

Fair 'nuff.

BTW, I didn't know all the background on Allende that you mentioned, and now you've inspired me to do some reading. So some good comes of everything, even half-drunk Canadians shooting themselves in the foot...

;-)

Didn't the TSA just increase their security measures today? Maybe he was their first "example". Besides, he could have done or said something on the plane that made the crew nervous. No one wants to take any chances.

Flying is no fun anymore...

OT, but hey everybody, please tell me this is a joke, or at least a very strange hoax.
"Washington, D.C. - In response to false Republican accusations regarding the CBS documents, Democratic National Committee Chairman Terry McAuliffe issued this statement:

“In today’s New York Post, Roger Stone, who became associated with political ‘dirty tricks’ while working for Nixon, refused to deny that he was the source the CBS documents.

“Will Ed Gillespie or the White House admit today what they know about Mr. Stone’s relationship with these forged documents? Will they unequivocally rule out Mr. Stone’s involvement? Or for that matter, others with a known history of dirty tricks, such as Karl Rove or Ralph Reed?”"

http://www.democrats.org/news/200409210001.html

WTF is up with this?

More OT Ra^ther:

"Old anchormen don't go away," Cronkite said on his final broadcast, "they keep coming back for more." When Rather quits—whether this week or at a moment of his own choosing—it will mark an enormous shift in American cultural life. For the first time in a generation, viewers will flip on Evening News, grab a snifter of brandy, and prepare to receive the day's stories from someone who isn't barking mad.

This, in Slate: Dan Rather: The anchor as madman.

Looks like the Kerry campaign folks are already preparing for a recount.

We've got to spend every dollar as carefully and wisely as we can between now and November. And as we learned in Florida in 2000, we have to expect the unexpected on and after Election Day. That's why I'm writing to ask for your immediate help on a very special project.

Election Day is several weeks away, but our campaign is already considering our options should John Kerry or George Bush pursue a recount like the famous Florida ballot dispute in 2000. That year, the Bush campaign raised more than $14 million in the Florida crisis, compared to Al Gore's campaign, which raised $3.2 million. We can never again be outspent 4-to-1 in such a critical situation.
...
I urge you to help us raise the maximum for GELAC. That way, we can spend our entire general election budget on the things that matter the most. That's our goal. Please act today to help us meet it.

Thank you,

Mary Beth Cahill
Campaign Manager

It's all in the semantics...

roger stone was called and actually said "no comment".

That little "refused to deny" is spin. Dontcha recognize moonbatty spin when you see it?

Wait.

Doesn't he work for Donald Trump?

Kehenry1:
Well, yes, I recognize "spin." But it seems so inane, transparent, and useless... OK, I'll admit it. Sometimes even the Democrats have me second-guessing how stupid they can actually be.

Jolly good show. He donated thousands to known terrorists, enough to fund how many car bombs, bomb-belts, guns & ammo. He should not be allowed into the US.

TSA was on the ball (for once). They landed the aircraft at the nearest airport once they matched the name with the watchlist and removed him from the plane. They are deporting him on the next flight out. This time TSA did things right.

I hope they catch & deport every terrorism funder, supporter or participant, and every immigration-law violator. We'll be safer without any of them. No non-citizen has an automatic "right of entry" to any country. They are guests, and citizens have the right to determine which guests may enter their house and how long they may stay.

BTW, many countries automatically deny entry to anyone who has previously been deported from any country for the commission of any crime (and funding terrorists is a crime).

re Oliver Willis

wow, what a pompous self righteous ass. Where did he get that LGFer's email address? FWIW, I made a screen capture of the page with the email address in case the violated party needs it.

#81, et al -- bob24 --

Overseas flights often land at the nearest airport upon entering a country's airspace, for customs clearance, immigration inspection, refueling, etc.

"Diversion" is probably the wrong word to use. It is unlikely that the plane was diverted (sent on a different course) as the Great Circle Route from Europe comes in over Gander, then Maine. European flights quite often stop at one or the other.

LAX/SFO flights to Hong Kong flights used to stop all the time at Guam to refuel, still have to stop quite often despite longer range planes. These are not listed stops as they are not "destinations" and passengers do not deplane/board.

Bob24

A gift, from me to you

[bigoted word]s want us all dead

Not Donks

Not GOP'ers

All of us

When that knife begins to saw, and you cant breathe anymore, complain to the TSA

tool

#98 Asedwich

WTF is up with this?

Suppressing fire.

I've seen some comments to the effect that it's silly to make a big deal out of Cat Stevens ("what's he gonna do, sing to everyone" etc...), but think about it. The guy's not exactly on top of the world at this point in terms of fame! Hell, I think I still have one of his old records from my childhood and I wouldn't recognize him if he knocked on my door right now!! So I'm glad they made a big deal out of it.

I'm more disturbed by the fact that someone on a watch list was allowed to board the plane and get in the air to begin with, regardless of the actual threat that he may or may not pose.

T

On a more serious note, check out Charles' earlier post here, where he explains that the GOP dumped this guy a long time ago. The Dems are frantically grasping at straws... which makes me even more suspicious of the Kerry campaign.

#103 Asedwich

I know, I know...it's still surprising as hell how stupid they can be. I mean...can they actually breath and type at the same time?

maybe that's why their comments are so stupid and moonbatty. They have to hold their breath while they type. Loss of oxygen to certain parts of the brain could certainly interfere with normal rational thought.

oh...who am I kidding. They've been brain dead for some time. When is somebody going to pull the plug on these poor bastards?

For all you know, I could have been home-schooled on a clothing optional commune outside of MarryYourSister, North Dakota.

Speaking as a ex kid schooled in ND, the's no reason to home school. The Schools are top notch, and clothing optional doesn't last much beyond thirty bellow.

For a Greek Cypriot kid to convert to Islam??? Something deeply warped there, for sure.

You ever notice how Cat Stevens' songs had a Nostradamus-like prescience to them? For instance, today's events were foreshadowed by:

"Miles from nowhere
Guess I'll take my time
Oh yeah, to reach there."

RoLev

Kehenry1:
I hear that one of the last acts during asphyxiation is a great kicking and flailing of limbs. Maybe this is it?

Spiny Norman: I hear you, but to me it looks more like a great load of napalm on the hearth-fire.

Rayra: many of us post while intoxicated, or outright drunk. The finer points of a well-nuanced post can be missed at such times.
Heck, perhaps we need an "oops, I'm wasted and I mixed my sarcasms and looked like a goober" tag.

I do notice that you didn't make it past #'s 5 and 6, my dear. :)

^{Does anyone mind that I am writing very very small? lol}

Sorry for the non-sequitor...carry on

#88 SoCalJustice 9/21/2004 10:31PM PST

OT: Shawn Green faces decision

Los Angeles Dodgers first baseman Shawn Green does not want to discuss whether he'll play next weekend in two key games against the Giants on Yom Kippur, the holiest holiday on the Jewish calendar.

ELDERLY PASSENGER: "Oh, stewardess! I've read this Famous Jewish Sports Legends leaflet from front-to-back, top-to-bottom, and sideways, but I don't see that nice young man Shawn Green mentioned anywhere!"

JULIE HAGERTY: "Ma'am, if you'll just be patien--

JIVE DUDE #2: "Lookihyah, big momma, I got the col' matta runnin' upside my smack 'em yack 'em..."

/deleted Airplane! scenes

Actually, it's not disappeared at all. It's just archived and no longer on the front page, which is what the link on the old thread goes to. But easily searched, if I could do it.

/pedantry

I mentioned this on the "toy" thread, but I listened to the end of Al Rantel's radio show in LA today, and as usual, he hosts a radio show every Tuesday from across the pond.

The British host reported that a police officer said they were expecting a riot if the British hostage was beheaded and were going to close schools down if it occurrred.

We all know who their rage is going to be directed against.

Hmm well never cared for him or his music anyhow. It would be nice if he did something extreme enough to get his monetary funds impounded.

superninja

There may not be a riot, and the Brit guy very well may get released, because as zombie posted (#68), it looks like we're about to pull a Spain (or a Philippines, if you will):

Iraq Authorities to Free Female Prisoner

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Iraqi authorities together with U.S. forces have decided to free one of only two high-profile women prisoners currently in American custody, a ministry spokesman said Wednesday.

Spokesman Noori Abdul-Rahim Ibrahim, however, denied the decision was linked to a demand by militants who abducted two Americans and a Briton calling for the release of all female Iraqi prisoners.

"The Iraqi authorities have agreed with coalition forces to conditionally release Rihab Rashid Taha on bail", Ibrahim said. "The decision ... has nothing to do with the threat made by the kidnappers," he said.

Uh huh. Totally unrelated. What an amazing coincidence.

Re: 111 - Rayra

I'm not so sure that it is enough; It just seems borderline absurd to land the plane in Maine; the inference is that Cat Stevens might have disrupted (or far worse) the flight between Maine and Dulles and therefore warranted grounding the plane prematurely. On its face, that sounds ridiculous, but I can see the logic of applying such procedures for all watch-list members.

As someone mentioned already, the system should have prevented him from ever boarding in the first place.

KERRY CAMP TAKEN IN BY S. KOREAN SPY

September 22, 2004 -- WASHINGTON — A South Korean spy duped John Kerry's fund-raisers into exploring the creation of a new Korean-American political group — raising U.S. suspicions that Seoul may be trying to influence the presidential election.

And Kerry will keep us safer? BWAHAHA

WAAAY OT:

Can anyone translate a couple of paragraphs into Spanish for me?

I have a couple hundred Mexican workers staying at my hotel (Ivan flooding cleanup) and they are absolutely trashing the place with garbage. I've been very cool about it up to this point, but I'm tired of picking up after adults and need to let them know that everyone I catch throwing garbage in our parking lot, halls, lobby, etc. will get a $20 cleanup fee tacked on to their room charges. The fact that they are Mexican has absolutely no bearing on my distaste for the clutter, it just makes communicating the repercussions more difficult.

Any takers willing to help out?

Thanks-

Brian

Iraq Authorities to Free Female Prisoner

I should not have been surprised, but my jaw dropped when I heard this on the top-of-the-hour news. Two nights ago on Foxnews, I watched a man begging these animals to spare his brother's life. How has it come to this: one of our citizens reduced to groveling to cave-dwellers, because we will not reduce the cave-dwellers to groveling for their families' lives.

We can sit here and reassure each other with articles that tell us of the good news that is coming out of Iraq, and we can sit here and read Iraqi blogs with the smug satisfaction that there are six people who love us in Baghdad, but we are losing this war and we are losing our civilization, whether we care to admit it or not. We have been losing since Fallujah, and the release of the female prisoners is the first admission that we are losing. And we didn't even get the hostages back - we caved after they were already dead.

I was heartsick to watch that man forced to crawl in front of the world, I am too heartsick to watch his brother crawl and plead before having his head cut off, and I am even more heartsick that our leaders will not exercise our capacity to make it stop. We are allowing this to happen, and I do not see any willingness to stop allowing this to happen. How could there not have been offensive operations begun yesterday after the first man died? How can it be that we can say with certainty that there will be none after the second man has died?

At 7pm CST (not to say I told you so, but I did) on one of the other threads, I predicted this exact same occurance.

This is called "divide and conquer". The enemy knows how to play it best.

they purposefully killed the two americans first. They knew they could put serious pressure on Britain and Blair, holding out the possibility of getting the hostage back alive.

That is why they did not set a time limit for his death. they were waiting for a response.

here you see our best ally cave in.

At most, what we could hope for is that this is a ploy in order to give the SAS more time to find these bastards, but I seriously doubt it.

At the end of the day, we stand alone with only a few Poles and Danes and Japanese behind us.

Even then, we only stand on one leg because the rest of our citizenry is like these folks: scared and ready to do anything so long as they do not have to witness another beheading.

When this is done, who do they come for next?

The path to Islam.

Cat Stephens, that lovable, cuddly 70's singer, who called for Rushdee's assassination (nice bloke), was given 1hr by fawning by BBC presenter Bob Harris.

As we know, the Left has never known a homophobic, misogynistic, racist, terror loving author killer it didn’t want to cuddle up to.

Cat fills us in on his conversion to Islam…..while swimming……S California of course.

Cat almost drowned in dangerous surf which swept him out to sea. Calling out 'Help me Allah', (to be read in Charton Heston voice) verily a wave did come unto him and
did bring him to the shore.

Like so many millions, Cat loves Islam, but chooses not to live in a Islamic country. Strange that. When Britain is a poor, corrupt, brutal dictatorship like almost all Islamic countries, will he remain. Bob didn’t ask.

OK, here's the moral of the story.

I was swimming in California, in almost the same spot, (just down from Malibu) around '84, and yes I too almost drowned due to strong and dangerous currents. I went under a few times, drank sea water, hit the stony bottom, and barely managed to stay afloat. Eventually, a wave came along and swept me ashore.

It wasn't Allah, God or the spirit of Worzel Gummidge. I wasn't inspired to cast of the shackles of democratic freedom and embrace a culture that keeps most of its adherents poor and oppressed. I just went back the beach, had a beer and forgot about it until today.

Cat renounced music and is now working with immigrants fleeing Islamic dictatorships, to change Britain from a democracy into the same theocratic dictatorship they fled from. Can't see the logic in that myself.

And dear reader, no religious conversion occurred.

If God wants me as a Rushdee-killing, dictator lovin’ sunbeam, he'll have to do better than a friendly wave.

www.ianandrewdodcge.com

I don't know about anyone else, but from one of the articles Charles linked to:

The Israeli government claims that on a 1988 visit to Jerusalem, Islam donated tens of thousands of dollars to a violent Islamic group known as the Hamas. ...

To me, that would be sufficient reason to divert the flight to the safest alternative airport, detain, and deport the man. Peace my eye.

Sorry, that link should be http://www.andrewiandodge.com

OT The draft scam

Did I say dhimmirats are scumbags? Think I did, but no harm done by repeating it.

The original Rolling Stone article...
ORIGINAL

#98 Asedwich

On the 20th the NY Post published a gossip piece about the hot topic in "New York political circles" being that Roger Stone was the source of the hoax documents.

Undoubtedly the DNC, grasping at straws while desperately trying to get a breath before drowning, took that to mean that the GOP was behind this scam.

Moonbat logic working in overdrive here. Somehow I think that the so-called "New York political circles" are about as far from ground zero on this story as Waco was from ground zero on 9/11. And let's understand that those same "circles" are about as moonbatty left-leaning as they get in this country east of Berzerkely.

The fact that the DNC has put up a false and misleading story at their website doesn't surprise me one bit. Right now they are shitting their pants, because more and more evidence of collusion between the DNC and CBS is becoming evident day by day.

Somebody is going down for these shenanigans, and it isn't Roger Stone or anyone remotely involved with the GOP. DNC operatives are scared for their political lives right now, and frankly, I don't blame them for thinking that way. The boogeyman is coming to visit them, and when he finds his man, it won't be a pretty sight.

I'm just smiling in my sleep right now...

Iraq’s former dictator Saddam Hussein wants to be pardoned and go into exile in Sweden

Saddam's physician to practice in Norway

#68,

It is insane.

They might as well turn Saddam and "Chemical Ali" loose now, as a pre-emptive surrender to the terrorists.

Contact the Iraqi Embassy to express your concerns about this misguided policy.

Maybe he should have taken the peace train to Washington.

I do hope that in future Cat Stevens will be investing his money in the UK's first sharia law-obeying bank, the Islamic Bank of Britain.

Apparently

"all money must be invested in purely ethical industries"

- does Hamas count? If not, it might be time for the CatWeasel to change his portfolio...

OT: Still a very small chance that Texas or Louisiana gets to celebrate a tropical depression or tropical storm party before Hurricane Jeanne visits the Carolinas late in the weekend.

Meanwhile, Hurricane Karl is a major hurricane, but heading to an icy death over the frigid North Atlantic, and small Tropical Storm Lisa may be swallowed alive by the much larger, but unnamed tropical low developping to its east. The unnamed low could become TD #14 or Tropical Storm Matthew today.

The remnants of Ivan starting to generate thunderstorms in the northern half of the circulation. Ivan's remains (will it be renamed Ivan? Nobody but the National Hurricane Center knows, and they ain't talkin) are currently moving through the cool water upwelled by Hurricane Ivan in the Gulf south of Alabama, but once past 90W the waters warm to almost 32C (90F), and the upper low shearing it from the south should back away.

Probably doesn't become a tropical depression, but this could be Texas' last chance for a party this hurricane season.

Only 5 hours of summer left.

Here's what I wrote:

Subject: Iraq should not surrender to terror

Madame Ambassador,

As a sovereign government on the way to democratic rule, Iraq has every right to set her own policy in dealing with the terrorists who would return her to the barbaric days of the former regime. It is disappointing and saddening however, for the Justice Ministry of your country to vote to reward the gang of Al-Zarqawi by releasing the two female bioweapons scientists. After the butchery of so many innocents by Al-Zarqawi's gang, this can only be seen as a surrender to their murderous methods.

What's really sad is that I love Cat Stevens' music. In a way, I'm glad he changed his name. I don't have to associate this Yusuf Islam character with good music.

OT

Musharraf Warns US Could Lose Fight Against Terrorism

Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf says the United States could lose the war on terrorism if it does not address the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and other political disputes around the world.

General Musharraf says Muslims feel their religion is being targeted, especially by Washington's strong support of Israel over Palestinian concerns.

In comments on ABC television and at a U.S. business-sponsored dinner Monday in New York, where he will attend the U.N. General Assembly, the Pakistani leader identified political disputes, poverty and illiteracy as the root causes of terrorism, which he says are not being addressed.

General Musharraf plans to meet with President Bush Wednesday on the sidelines of the U.N. activities. Pakistan is a key ally of the United States in the fight against global terrorism.

Here we go again. This time from our "ally", Musharraf.

Re: #10 Extra special attention needs to be paid to the Muslim converts. Anybody who willingly converts to the perverted death cult is more likely to be dangerous. Just my observation...

While we are on the subject...

Dear "Civilized World",
Put this prick on a watch list now!

Name: Shawn Smith aka "Yahya Abdul Rahman"
Place of Birth: Fredericton, New Brunswick Alexa tells us his home
Adresss: A suburb of Montreal, specifically a predominately english one.
See Picture: upload.mcgill.ca/photos/200401_9.jpg

[Link: www.alexa.com...]
Contact Info for inin.net: Islamic News
and Information Network 101 Place Charles Lemoyne Longuil , Quebec CANADA J4K 2T3 1234567 1234567, Fax: +1 707 581 1722 inin@inin.net

Interesting Facts:
[Link: www.littlegreenfootballs.com...]
lgf: Muslim Speaker Attacks Israel at MLK Tribute ... Yahya Abdul really screwed up. ... This Rahman guy is in for a big surprise. ... I don't know if anyone has written about the CAIR protest this past Monday. ..
[Link: www.montrealmuslimnews.net...]
News and List Posting Archives ... CAIR-CAN CONDEMNS FIREBOMB ATTACK OF JEWISH SCHOOL.
... Israel is not fighting a war on terror, but it in fact is conducting a terrorist war (Yahya Abdul Rahman). ...
[Link: www.ottawamuslim.net...]
Ignorance the real enemy of Islam MIKE BOONE Montreal Gazette ... ... Or it could be because Yahya Abdul Rahman was born Shawn Smith in Fredericton, NB Smith, who's 37, acquired his new name in 1992 when he converted to Islam. ...
[Link: www.google.ca...] Ignorance the real enemy of Islam
[Link: www.cjc.ca...]
CJC ... United Church in protest after editor Yahya Abdul Rahman of the ... remarks, which he delivered
before Rahman’s address ... May 14, 2004 - Alison Smith / CBC News and ... [Link: www.themodernreligion.com...]
Islamic Perspective on Domestic Abuse Muslims against Wife Abuse by Yahya Abdul Rahman aka Shawn N. Smith. Since there are some in the Muslim community that believe it is halal to smack their wives ... [Link: www.google.com...]
[Link: thetruereligion.org...]
thetruereligion.org
Converts-Shawn Smith (Yahya Abdul Rahman) Men who have Embraced Islam: Shawn Smith (Yahya Abdul Rahman) My Name is Shawn Smith and I am from New Brunswick, Canada. ... Yahya Abdul Rahman is a host on CKUT Radio McGill. Abdul Rahman is the Editor of the online Montreal Muslim News Network ===
For a quick flyby of his interests:
[Link: www.google.com...]
[Link: www.google.com...] [Link: www.google.com...]
[Link: www.ifew.com...]
CHALLENGES: Dealing with Anti-Islamic Websites ... (Yahya Abdul Rahman lives in Montreal Canada,
and is the editor of the online Islamic ... Islamic Foundation for Education and Welfare (IFEW) [[Link: www.IFEW.com...] ... [Link: www.iap.org...]
Thousands March For Palestine In Montreal by Yahya Abdul Rahman Montreal April 20, 2002 - Thousands of pro-Palestinian demonstrators, representing a variety of ethnic and religious backgrounds, took to the downtown streets of Montreal on Friday to protest the atrocities committed against the Palestinian people, and to place demands on the Canadian government to take action.

OT

SPAM as political propaganda. I will probably work.

Kerry Wins.

Mandatory draft for boys and girls (ages18-26) starting June 15, 2005

It, not I

PIMF

A tip from the above article

UPDATE III: If the Republicans are smart, they'll get their Young Republicans organizations at every college they possibly can to write columns or letters to the school newspapers debunking this story and citing all the information that is readily available online to show how phony this rumor is.

[Link: www.montrealmuslimnews.net...]
Tom Hurndall Honoured During Interfaith Service Remembering Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Muslim Journalist Publicly Denounced By Montreal's Israeli Consul General by Yahya Abdul Rahman
Montreal January 20th, 2004
[Link: www.redress.btinternet.co.uk...]
Thinkpiece ... The source of Palestinian frustration - and suicide bombings, Yahya Abdul Rahman. ... Why the USA is an obstacle to a just peace in Palestine/Israel, Noam Chomsky... [Link: www.redress.btinternet.co.uk...] - 71k
- 18 Aug 2004
[Link: www.palestineremembered.com...]
I want to go home to Safsaf ... I want to go home to Safsaf ^^^ Yahya
Abdul Rahman The Palestinian village of ... never had a real identity outside of Palestine and it was ...
[Link: ummahnews.com...]
Palestine Chronicle Friday August 13, 2004, search: Main. Home. Palestine. International. Art & Culture. Business. ... Yahya Abdul Rahman: CBC Documentary 'Being Osama' Really Delivers ... ummahnews.com/section.php?section=Features&pag e=2 -
Post #147 cont'd

Is this the same "Yahya Abdul Rahman" ?
[Link: www.worldwaterday.org...]
WWD 2001 Event Palestine Media Centre, Water fact sheets
The Palestine Media Center in Palestine has compiled a 5 part fact sheet series on “Water In Palestine.” Beginning today, we are sending this to our huge e-mailing list as a series.
Contact: Yahya Abdul Rahman
Islamic Association For Palestine United States Of America
E-mail: iapinfo@iap.org

Now if anyone at CSIS is reading this, please pay this wack job a house call.

What did Bangor do to deserve this? I'm going to rip a page out of Ed Moran's weather almanac here. (sorry Ed) The weather in Bagor today will be balmy. Balmy in Bangor. And yes I have been drunk in Bangor.

and it begins:

Cat Stevens Deportation 'A Slap in the Face'

The refusal to allow singer Yusuf Islam into the US on national security grounds was a “slap in the face of sanity”, a Muslim group said today.

#155 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Thanks for asking.

From the Fox News reader:

"The terrorists drove the car into a hospital before blowing it up."

Nice bunch of fellows we're fighting.

During the report Fox had film of terrorists shooting and scooting with RPGs at American troops. The cameras were perfectly positioned to get the best possible image of the terrorist action. It suddenly became clear to me why terrorists wear those rags over their heads as masks. Its because they invite the MSM to their attacks.

The masks serve several purposes. 1) The MSM, which they invite to their attacks, doesn't broadcast their face. 2) They're half afraid of their fellow terrorists who could very well be collaborators or merceneries or just idealists and patriots. 3) Wearing those ultra cool arab things over their faces make it easy to recruit 11 year old boys filled with romantic illusions about glorious shaheeds.

In any case, what would the Allies have given in WWII to get their hands on daily footage of German operations. You can bet that the biggest fans of the Reuters and AFP footage is the US Army. How ironic that the stuck up little sh*ts at al Reuters provide us with golden operational intelligence.

A little overnight work for CAIR:

In the Name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

- MEDIA ADVISORY -

U.S. MUSLIMS REACT TO EXCLUSION OF YUSUF ISLAM
Former Cat Stevens removed from plane, denied admission to U.S.

(WASHINGTON, D.C., 9/21/04) - On Wednesday, September 22, the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) will hold a noon news conference in Washington, D.C., in reaction to today's exclusion from the United States of Yusuf Islam, an internationally known Muslim activist and educator. SEE: [Link: www.yusufislam.org.uk...]

WHAT: CAIR Reacts to Exclusion of Yusuf Islam from U.S.
WHEN: Noon, Wednesday, September 22, 2004
WHERE: CAIR's Capitol Hill Headquarters, 453 New Jersey Avenue S.E., Washington, D.C.
CONTACT: CAIR Communications Director Ibrahim Hooper, 202-488-8787,
202-744-7726

Islam, the former pop singer Cat Stevens, was removed from a plane bound for Washington from London Tuesday when his name showed up on a U.S. watch list. The plane was diverted to Maine's Bangor International Airport. A department of Homeland Security (DHS) spokesman said Islam was denied admission to the United States "on national security grounds." Islam, who recently spoke out against the massacre of more than 300 people in a Russian school, will be returned to England on Wednesday.

SEE: "The Former Cat Stevens Gets Plane Diverted"
[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

"When internationally-respected Islamic personalities like Yusuf Islam and Professor Tariq Ramadan are denied entry to the United States, it sends the disturbing message that even moderate and mainstream Muslims will now be treated like terrorists," said CAIR Executive Director Nihad Awad.

Nihad, is it as disturbing a message as the one sent by having a guy who used to work for a front group for Hamas pretend to speak for all U.S. Muslims?

Syrian professor wants to reform Islam

"Islam is in need of true reform. Islam's need [for reform] – or, to be precise, our need for Islam's reform – is not less than the need for reform in the Arab political regimes… This is the need for people who are capable of fearlessly acknowledging that terrorism nests within us as Muslims and that we must exorcise it… Unfortunately, the meaning of delay is more death… The reform will take a long time and the price will be high, but it is the only path to our return to history as Muslims and not as terrorists…"

I'll bet he's popular.

#159 Reaganite

Good to hear. TRICARE can be a bitch and half to deal with, but in the end, you can usually talk sense in them. Give us updates on how she comes along.

#163 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Give us updates on how she comes along.

I will. She's not from my home unit, but I know her Flight Chief, I'll follow up.

TRICARE can be a bitch and half to deal with

TRY&GET CARE. Thanks to the Hildebeast. One of the biggest reasons I hate the Clintoons.

155 Krager

Have what's-his-face try again, or, over-and-over. One slap ain't gunna do a shi'ite.

OT - who's good at math? If you have 5 permanent Security Counsel members who can't agree on a single issue in a year, how many issues can the security counsel resolve with 9 permanent members? Four nations launch UN seat bid

Damnit George...your speech yesterday was supposed to be entitled, 'The U.N. is permanently canceled due to an uninterrupted case of stupidity on the part of its General Assembly.'

Close down that friggin circus!

#164 Reaganite

I hear ya, had a buddy get busted up in Raleigh, NC, took him to the hospital, TRICARE dicked with us about authorization. We left, drove 2 hours back to camp lejeune to get him admitted to the Naval hospital.

Send Cat Stevens to Bagdad and let him have tea with Zarquawi, perhaps we can light both of those asshats up at the same time *spit*.

#166 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I went 11 months with a broken wrist because of TRY&GET CARE.

I'm probably not the first to mention this, and it is a repost from the second thread (and breaking news is to be noted in the top thread, so excuse the double post), but apparently, Ted Rall has some fans in Columbus Ohio. US Soldier Attacked at Concert

Foster Barton, 19, of Grove City, received a Purple Heart for his military service in Iraq. He almost lost his leg last month after a Humvee he was riding in ran over a landmine.

Barton said he was injured again Friday night in a crowded parking lot as he was leaving the Toby Keith concert at Germain Amphitheatre. The solider was injured so badly that he can't go back to Iraq as scheduled.

"I don't remember getting hit at all, really," said Barton, a member of the 1st Calvary Division. "He hit me in the back of the head. I fell and hit the ground. I was knocked unconscious and he continued to punch and kick me on the ground."

According to a Columbus police report, six witnesses who didn't know Barton said the person who beat him up was screaming profanities and making crude remarks about U.S. soldiers, Burton reported.

One witness, a friend of the alleged attacker, said Barton hit first. Police said they do not think that witness is credible since the six other witnesses said Barton was hit from behind.

Spanish dmimmitude:

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

looks like Spain is going all-out to beat France, Denmark, Belgium and Sweden to be the first Western country firmly in the realm of Islam.

reaganite,

Glad to hear your team mate is doing ok, Tricare is pretty good, since I live 180 miles from the VA Hosp. in Houston if something happened to me they would Medevac me there no problem.

#168 reaganite

Every liberty brief I ever get state-side during 8 years in the Marines;

"If you get hurt, get to a base, dont waste time waiting for TRICARE authorization."

Now try and get the Marines to verify a case of Asthma, then you got some trouble, but emergency stuff, no problems...on base.

More (OT, but very relevant)

Mr Zapatero said he had asked the UN Secretary General, Kofi Annan, to set up a high level group to study the creation of an alliance of civilisations.

Speaking on the fringes of the UN meeting in New York, Mr Zapatero said: "This alliance would have as its fundamental objective to deepen political, cultural and education relations between those who represent the so-called Western world and, in this historic moment, the area of Arab and Muslim countries."

The BBC's Michael Buchanan says the Spanish prime minister is trying to position his country as a bridge between Europe and north Africa.

Mr Zapatero said the world could become a clash of civilisations, with poverty and Islamic radicalisation tearing Western and Muslim countries apart.

The alliance he envisages could therefore prevent hate and misunderstanding from developing by looking at political and cultural issues - everything from joint peace keeping missions to interfaith dialogue.

---

Interfaith dialog UN/ Spanish style: how soon the West will cede land, power, and government to Islam. The UN General Assembly is just a mouthpiece for the Arab League. Tell me why, exactly, is the UN still relevant?

Explore your British Muslim identity

Some scary extracts. Read it all:

me as a muslim living in Britain am very proud of it, i am pround of seeing myself as a muslim. I dont think that by living in Britain affects me. i see myself as a muslim a muslim a muslim!
hassan, United Kingdom

The recent proposals by the french to ban headscarves is another swipe @ the people who want religion to play a big part of their life, this will be the start of a wave of new moves to change our religion.The longer we leave the idea of creating an islamic state (in a Muslim Land), the more damage they will do to our religion and our brothers and sisters in the muslim world. There is over 2.3 billion muslims in this world and growing, why can we not create a one caliphate, who will protect us.
Ali, London, United Kingdom

Chris terrorism is a tool of the weak and oppressed you dont choosh to to fight back in such ways you choosh to have an army with jets and missiles but 9/11 was NOTHING compared to the Muslims killed across the world every year by western forighn policy the NAGER IS IMMENSE IT IS ENOURMOUS and YET AGAIN you kill muslims in iraq to remove a secular dictator YOU supported and funded invade our land and then force feed us ur ideology YES WE ARE ANGRY yes terrorism will spread because of your action
Khalid, United Kingdom

John: have u ever been to the ex-pat compound in Saudi? or the holiday beaches that the Westerners flock to? Have u been to KL, Dubai, Morrocco. These places are more Westernised than London. Frankly, I think Muslims in Muslim countries are fed up of Western Capitalism, so called Democracy and Freedom being shoved down their throats.
Dr Ariffin, London, United Kingdom

So what was the Messenger Muhammed [saw] doing in Mecca if he accepted the value system and rules of the society. On the contrary Islam came to change the corrupted society of the quraish, the Messenger [saw] challanged their belief system , their rules and their leaders.Infact he later conquered mecca, the place where he was born. We need to present islam and the alternative and true value system. How can a system from the creator be subservient to a system from the created.
Zaid, Leicester, United Kingdom

When I was a child I beleived Islam was a violent religion. I thought the desert sun had fried these peoples brains so they acted like apes. My ideas came from this corrupt society, I was dependant on the thoughts of those around me. Now I am an adult, & have no excuse. I do not copy the thoughts of society, but investigate the truth 4 myself, & try 2 live accordingly. Islam is the ONLY TRUTH! Euros R jealous of Islam, but this is not an excuse. Their kids/grandkids will account them 4 arrogance
Abdul Qaadir Davis, croydon, United Kingdom

I feel no sympathy for patriots who consider it an affront for muslims to attack british values. If we reverse their argument, what are they doing in this forum? If they don't like us discussing how to defend our identity from corrupt secular values, then maybe they should leave this forum.
No one here has condoned bombing or murder, or insighted hatred of UK gov! We only discuss with ourselves how we r2b. If you love freedom, let us practice it & not stop us. or maybe you dont like freedom!
Abdul Qaadir Davis, Croydon, United Kingdom

Why would anyone be proud of living in britain? It's not your choice or part of your identity. In UK you are being forced to compromise or hide Islamic identity all the time. As a Muslim you strive to live according to halal and avoid haram, and this is what forms your character and identity. You are not a different person just because you live in the west, you just face different problems, and you see the evil corruption of a godless society close up. I was christian now muslim. I love muslims!
Abdul Qaadir Davis, Croydon, United Kingdom

Sharon: Arafat will 'get what he deserves'

Would that be a shotgun enema with the remains being fed to wild hogs? One could hope. anyways...

Sharon told Israel Radio that Israel would take action against Arafat at a time of its choosing as it did in assassinating Hamas leaders earlier this year in the Gaza Strip.

I see a JDAM in Arafat's future. Please oh please.

#171 'Nam Grunt

Tricare is pretty good

Sir, I always agree with you. Not here. TRICARE sucks ass. Did you know we no longer have sick call? Did you know I have to wait through terminal hold to get a same day appointment because you can't schedule an appointment in advance? I had to wait 11 Months to get a broken wrist operated on? BTW, the wait forced me to watch while my team deployed to OEF, then OIF and I had sit in the States?

TRICARE can suck my a**...

I see Kerry is up on [Link: www.electoral-vote.com...]

and the newest Zogby poll has them tied...

any comments to ease my mind?

Fox covering Cat Stevens. They have NO CLUE as to why Stevens is suspicious. They go on telling everybody its because he has a Muslim name. They have NO CLUE about the Hamas connection or Salman Rushdie. They're joking that if you have a Muslim name you have to expect to be turned away. The check from CAIR should be in the mail any minute. How much damage to the War on Terror has Fox just imposed by having the weatherman and a sports reporter discussing the news. Yes, they know all the lyrics to his songs.

#172 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Now try and get the Marines to verify a case of Asthma, then you got some trouble, but emergency stuff, no problems...on base.

Many bases under TRICARE no longer have emergency rooms. They are now "clinics". If I get hurt, I get to spend on average 7 hours before I'm seen at Womack, even if it's broken bones.

Zogby poll is screwed and if they figured that into the electoral votes, well GIGO.

Think of it this way.

Best case: Bush 10pts ahead
Worst case: Dead heat

Average the two for what the situation most likely is:
Bush ahead 3-5pts.

#179 reaganite

Had no idea it had gotten that bad. Marines still had BAS/RAS, area clinics and Base Hospitals. TRICARE was only for dependents on base (where they used Base facilities) or if you got busted up off base.

Did you get some rest, reaganite?

reaganite'

I guess they treat 'nam Vets differently or may I use the old military acronym "with priority". Last time I was at the VA Hosp. I asked them if I were to have something bad happen to me they said to call 911 and I would immediately be Medevaced to Houston, hopefully I won't have to use it. What??? no more sick call, damn how times change, actually I use to hold my own sick call when I was a Drill Sgt. plenty of G.I. gin and APC's on hand for the boots. Speaking of which, once I was offered a promotion to E-7 to transfer to the Air Force as a Drill Sgt., I believe it was in '70, I turned them down.

What is it about Anglo-Greek singers such as Cat Stevens and Geroge Michael that turns them into such assholes?

#181 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
TRICARE *spit*

I know doctors who lie so their patients can get fixed. I know guys who get put on profile for long terms so they can show the system sucks. They put them on profile so they can justify treatment.
TRICARE is the worst thing I have ever seen in 23 years in the military. I f*cking hate it.

#182 Ann
I got out of work 90 minutes ago, I go back in 9 hours.

#185 reaganite

Total BS system. Army? Marines still rely on local Corpsman and MO for most procedures, plus a SNCO has no problem with having a "talk" with the Docs if a Marine seems to be taking a bit long to mend. Plus, busted Marines tend to see their promotion prospects dry up, which makes for suprisingly fast recoveries in some cases.

#115 Rayra:

For the sarcasm impared, here is an addendum to post #6:

/sarcasm.

#183 'Nam Grunt
The NYPD EMT took care of my troop the other day (an ex Marine) He knows TRICARE. Took one look at her and made the call to make it an emergency. If he hadn't, she would have had to fly to her home unit and phone in every morning to get seen. Even though she was missing part of her upper lip and part of her nose.

I HATE TRICARE. I was promised better when I joined and my troops deserve better.

On one better note, W is trying to fix it.

Morning has broken, and this asshole who made all of his money in a nation that said he could, is on his way out of here.

He should be made to pay for the ride back to whereever it is he is heading. What a disgrace.

I'd like to know what's so appealing about not bathing, wearing laundry on your head, and eating dirt.

#185 reaganite

I got out of work 90 minutes ago, I go back in 9 hours.

I just hope that you are getting enough sleep on this brutal schedule!
I am all bent about my 8 mile commute taking an hour for the second time this week. You've put things into perspective;)
I hate crowded areas. I need to move!

reaganite..Krager,

I guess I've been out to long, but I have received nothing but excellant treatment fron the VA in the past 3 years, in Houston, no complaints, although you are right about the long wait for an appointment.

169 Furious J

According to Smirky, it was a Toby Keith concert. If that is true, than it was a drunken brawl probably that just happened to involve a soldier, than a case of when moonbats attack.

I spent a little time at Smirky's site yesterday, he is kind of like the Evil Charles, Spock w/ a goatee, except not.

Islam denied admission to the United States on national security grounds

Oh how I wish that was generally true.

#186 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Plus, busted Marines tend to see their promotion prospects dry up, which makes for suprisingly fast recoveries in some cases.

People who decide to milk injuries have no place in the military. But those who really are hurt and can't get fixed because of what the Hildebeast did, well, I'm one of them. I'm on a profile. They try the "cheap" route first instead of doing what's right. So, I've been on profile for over a month taking drugs when a simple (but painful) needle in my shoulder would have fixed almost 5 weeks ago.

OT

Israel the 51st state...

Jack Hensley's brother Ty was just on Fox. Jack was recently beheaded in Iraq. He was in the country working to make money intended to put his 13 year old daughter through college.

Help to make that a reality. Let her know we care.

[Link: www.jackhensley.org...]

In the early 70s I saw him at a gay disco. This is total speculation, but he might have gone to islam to deal with conflicted feelings he might have had about being gay. From what gay friends told me at the time, it was no secret he was 100% gay back then.

#190 Ann

I just hope that you are getting enough sleep

Sleep? What's that? :-Þ

His manager's on the TV now, weeping 'persecution'. The BBC hasn't got round to mentioning Cat's desire to see Mr Ruchdeee's head removed for writing a book he didn't like.

He's also claiming he only gave money to Hammas 'hostpitals'.

Where would Islamism be without the good ol' BBC.

reaganite,

You are right about W making good on his promises for better medical care for Veterans, I've seen the change first hand. When are you going back to Bragg or is it Pope?

#201 'Nam Grunt

When are you going back to Bragg or is it Pope?

It's Pope, well, it could be the 27th, the 29th, or the 1st, or I have no idea! but the 29th looks pretty solid. Unless they push me somewhere else...

#200 American Infidel

They have two headless bodies. One was confirmed as Armstrong, the other is being identified.

reganite,

Something I meant ask you in the e-mail I sent you the other day, just curious do you get TDY pay when you go off on one of your jaunts, just wondering.

My fear (which might have been already noted) is that this guy was allowed to get ON the plane. We didn't have issues with terrorists after landing... we had issues with them while we were flying.

#204 'Nam Grunt

just curious do you get TDY pay when you go off on one of your jaunts,

Yeah we do, it covers most expenses, just not all.

#21 Cordy - don't need to apolgize. You are right to feel outraged, as any decent human being is at this barbarity. Imagine how sad and disturbing this is for the poor hostage's family. There are no words to describe my outrage, and I seem to detect very little outrage in the MSM. It's as if they want to protect the perpetrators, to prevent us from becoming enraged at the Islamic nazis and their death cult.
Islam is a religion of peace, my ass. How many crimes and barbarity can be committed in the name of this satanic cult before our MSM start naming Islam as the problem. Will we ever see that day?

I wonder if GWB's speech at the UN focusing on the Beslan crimes isn't an invitation to Putin and Russia to join hands in putting an end to the Islamic threat spinning out of control? I wonder if the Russians for once would shed their duplicity (supporting Arab dictatorships, arming rogue regimes and axes of evil) and support our war on terror? How much more pain and suffering would the Russians need to endure before they figure we have the same enemy?

As for Cat Stevens, what was the purpose of his visit? Entering the US is not a right, but a privilege. Immigration officers can deny entry to any non-US citizen, including me, as a Canadian, for no particular reason. I'm asked the same questions every time I cross into the US, and it doesn't bother me, because I know they are doing their job.
I still don't understand why they had to divert the plane? Why couldn't they quietly stop him and deny him entry at the Dulles airport? Was there lots of press waiting for him at Dulles, maybe, and they wanted to make a big fuss out of it? Interesting.
I hate to think I still like his pre-conversion music, I grew up with it. It's hard to get this song out of my brainwaves, now. What the heck is it with all Greeks being so pro-Arab, and pro-Muslim after being for 400 years under the Ottoman occupation? You'd think they've been under Jewish occupation, by the passin with which they hate the Jews.

/rant over

OT:

Someone was asking if people wanted Gmail. they said to send them an email, so I did. Did I miss out? or did my email filter delete your reply?

ick.

I'm out, good night all (yes, I know it's morning for EST). Time for me to crash.

OT

Philadelphia Inquirer poll of city residents

Kerry: 79%

Bush: 13%

disgraceful

#12 bob24

I swear, sometimes I think we're letting the war on terror turns us into a nation of frightened Chicken Littles

I'd much rather be a chicken little than colonel's original recipe after some [bigoted word] blows me up.

#212 American Infidel

But I thought that Master Rove and our loving Master Bush wanted us to get implants that show our exact whereabouts at all times... I mean, do they have something to hide that they wouldn't want the "Righties" to know where they are?

Sleep well my friend.

Captain's Quarters notes some good news from Iraq:

"Spiritual leader" of Al-Zarqawi's gang killed in U.S. airstrike

#214 lance kates says

But I thought that Master Rove and our loving Master Bush wanted us to get implants that show our exact whereabouts at all times... I mean, do they have something to hide that they wouldn't want the "Righties" to know where they are?

and people think that only the right has conspiracy theorist nut jobs

WTF -

Iraq promised Wednesday to release one of two high-profile women prisoners, but officials denied the decision was linked to demands by militants who purportedly killed two American hostages and threatened to execute a Briton with them unless all female Iraqi prisoners are let go.

I hope this is not true, because then it's open season on hostages.

#206 American Infidel

The scumbags have not released a video of the 2nd murder yet.

maybe I'm the first here to say it [I've scanned all the posts, but it didn't stand out]:

It's just wonderful! The security net is working, and yet another crypto-terrorist is thwarted.

Cat who? There's this guy called Yusef Islam ibn Cat Stevens bin walawala Fizael wa Foosh that was reincarnated as a Hamas funding Islamoterror supporting, scruffy moonbat that somehow managed to board a plane, but was discovered and diverted. Now to be deported back to Eurabia.

In the not-so-famous words of 'dead' blogger 'marcus tacitus' of BetweenHopeAndFear, "Cat is dead. Rest in Peace"

Cat died figuratively and professionally when he went plumb-bob stupid and converted to Islam, hook line and sinker. Personally, I did like much of his music, but the musician died, and was replaced by a bearded mystic, searching for a higher truth, a loftier plane amongst the Sufi mysticism of Islam. Or, to put it bluntly, his path would be like me trying to find diamonds at the bottom of a pile of goat turds.

Any person who supported Islam's "right" to issue a call-to-murder Salman Rushdie fatwa [or any other author, critic, jester or simple honost analyst], and raised and delivered monies to Hamas, is a terror-supporter, and needs to be treated as such. Cat Stevens is very much dead. Yusef Islam is not dead, and has a misguided history.

GoatGuy

#217 jonathan.culbertson

Careful... 'They' might not note your sarcasm and send you to reeducation. There's no Right and Left. There're only the double-plus good Righties, and then there're those who haven't been reeducated yet...

(Or is that just the feeling I get when I read what MSM has to say about our President?)

Update! Guess who is planning to protest this Islamophobic act!?!?!
CAIR to protest Yusuf Islam being banned in US-Press conference in Washington, D.C.

lance kates

in order to be reeducated you have to be educated in the first place

#222 WriterMom

Did CAIR ever really say that the terrorists were naughty? What's their standard?

Of course these are the same people that drive around with cars that have GPS systems,

I don't think it's technically possible to use a GPS receiver to monitor someone's movements.

But it does make one wonder if Americans in Iraq shouldn't all be equipped with some kind of locator device, so when they get kidnapped, we can rain Hell from above on the terrorists who grab them.

More shocking news from Eurabia:

The situation in Sweden

Brief summary: A 60-year-old man, on his way home in his electric wheelchair, was assaulted by 6-7 boys, described as 12-15 year-old immigrants. They blocked the road in front of the man with a bicycle. One of the kids kicked the man in his back, while two others kicked the man once in each arm. One of the youngest boys urinated on the man's head, according to local police. The man in the wheelchair was saved by a woman on a bicycle, that yelled at the boys and made them stop.

#226

Maybe because they wear burkas, they're going to release some "Hunter/Killer" type soldier dressed as a muslim woman. Then they'll go to Bin Laden and he'll kill him?

rephrase #224

the left can't claim to be reeducated, they haven't been educated. Unless you call tree hugging falsified document reporting asshole educated

#231

Those on the Left do just that.

From the AP story:

Sheik Abu Anas al-Shami, 35, was killed when a missile hit the car he was traveling in on Friday in the west Baghdad suburb of Abu-Ghraib, said the clerics, who have close ties to the family. They spoke on condition of anonymity.

Hmmm... sounds like one of those Israeli "Islamic activist-seeking" warheads, doesn't it?

What, no car swarm?

Good shooting, Global Hawk, or whoever.

9Iron (#218),

I hope this is not true, because then it's open season on hostages.

First off releasing just two prisoners after the hostages have been murdered isn't likely to be connected to the terrorists demands.

Secondly, if you hadn't noticed, it already is open season on hostages. Can you name, or even just number, how many have had their heads sawed off as human sacrifices to allah?

OT:

There's a new worker where I'm at in my area. He's Canadian and Liberal.

Guess that means I can't read any of you'alls posts to my co-workers anymore.

Charles,
Here's the missing Rolling Stone page via the "way-back machine".

[Link: www.rollingstone.com...]

ooopps, I just saw that #86 had already gotten it. ;)

#234 Geepers

Yes, it's been open season, but even if Zarquai can spin it that she was released because of the hostage demands, then the hostages really become currency, and the insurgents are sure to go to the bank. I can't think of ANY reason why if this story is true it is a smart thing to do.

I wonder if that yellow bracelet that hanoi john wears is a tracking device or it just matches the yellow stripe down his back, I know, I know it's for cancer awareness, but I like my description better.

Islam in the West has a Scientology-like love of celebrity.

In fact here's a lot in common between these two cults - a dislike of outsiders, a hatred of apostates, rigid rules, brainwashing of children, contant reinforcing of doctrine, a culture of not questioning what the leader said or did.

Only difference between them was that L Ron was a cynical manipulator and Mo was a psychotic manipulator.

"Cat Stevens" can't land in the U.S.? I guess it's not such a Wide World after all, at least for revilers of The Great Satan.

242^nd! Yes!

Sorry, just getting a little punchy until the next topic comes up :)

#240 'Nam Grunt

You know... I support different research programs, but when I get that stuff to wear or put on my car, i toss them.

I don't do things so that I get public recognition... otherwise its just prostitution.

> The page at RollingStone.com that we linked to (and quoted) in this entry from March 2003, about Yusuf Islam’s deportation from Israel for donating to Hamas, has been disappeared.

Never fear - archive.org is here! Best source for all those "disappeared" files ...

[Link: www.rollingstone.com...]

Dang! Off by one!

Fox News just reporting: bus bombing in French Hill section of Jerusalem. 3 seriously injured...

BBC says female Iraqi bioweapons scientists will not be released

If you can trust the BBC...

Sounds like the Iraqi Justice Ministry official was talking out of his ass "off-message."

> The page at RollingStone.com that we linked to (and quoted) in this entry from March 2003, about Yusuf Islam’s deportation from Israel for donating to Hamas, has been disappeared.

Never fear - archive.org is here! Best source for all those "disappeared" files ...

Click Here

And thanks, #226 American Infidel.

BBC says female Iraqi bioweapons scientists will not be released

Nice piece of work by US and Alawi in Iraq. Play the terrorists game. Think I'm wrong? Look what the media did (are doing) with the French hostages (which the BBC has given up on mentioning after announcing about 6 time they've been freed).

Apparently, the plan is to announce this she-monster will be freed. Have it carried by the BBC and others who are waiting to parade it around the world on their shoulders like plaster saints. And then --- watch carefully. Watch for movement. Watch for communication. Watch for anything.

This is how you fight Arabs. The US military has a 228 year tradition of learning to adapt to circumstancers.

OT

Blast in Jerusalem. Happened a few minutes ago.

It seems to me that the whole friggin' crowd (CBS, Rather, Mapes, DNC, Kerry, "Fortunate Son" group, Texas Nuts, et al) stood up at once to sing long and loud from the same sheet music.

Too bad for them the sheet music was forged!

I thought the best way was to turn one mosque to rubble each time they took a terrorist..

Wait! I'm sorry... I forgot I was living in an America controlled by Liberal Media and lawyers that have kept us from doing our jobs in the military since Vietnam.

OT: I just viewed the latest Eugene Armstrong video. I don't know if such an horrible act can get much worst, but this is by far the sickest I've seen so far. I hope that very soon we catch Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and kill him and his followers a thousand times. I fully support our military actions in all these hotspots, but we have got to unleash the hounds of hell on these sick terrorists. At this point I don't care who gets in our way. Screw the UN, and those spineless world leaders who cannot understand the gravity of what the world is up against. It's well past time we took the gloves off and bloody our knuckles.

And yet another in Baghdad

Oh - and is WAS all about the oil... at least the Oil for Fraud that the UN was running. (And WHY are we supposed to care about any pronouncement from them on the morality of an issue?!?)

Nothing to see here, move along...

While I was watching the news a bout the bombing in Jerusalem, I was just informed by Fox News the Be'er Sheva is parallel to Gaze City and that is the reason for the bus bombing, I want to inform Fox News the Jacksonville FL and New Orleans LA are located parallel to Gaze City too, they should start looking for suicide bus bombers in the US.

Good quoute from today's WSJ editorial:

A War Referendum

Without an Iraq-type plan for changing the region, the U.S. would seem condemned to a century of playing terrorist whack-a-mole.

As always another excellent commentary by:

Cox & Forkum

#255 LanceKates

You mean a hostage?

I'm all for asymetrical war... you kill one of ours, we take out 500 of yours - and whatever "holy site" they've happened to hide in.

Ward Cleaver: A quote I saw recently: "The War on Terror can not be won in the next four years, but it could be lost."

I don't completely agree with that. I think the war could be won in four years, we're just not willing to take the extreme measures necessary to do it. However, I think it makes a point.

#262lyana

don't world politics suck?!!!? i think your sentiment is felt my the majority of Americans, although the minority of the population (F'ing Liberals) control the media and don't want the rest of us to know that we're not alone in our feelings and logic.

#262

Sorry, meant hostage. Apparently Liberalism from the new worker is already rubbing off on me...

... [trance-like state] must...vote...kerry...

[scream]

Lyana, I'm more or less with you. Although, I think every time a hostage is beheaded, 100 prisoners (those we're sure are bad guys) are executed, sewn into pig carcasses, and dumped where the "militants" can find them.

OT

Nice interview with Jessica Stern, an academic lady who has personally interviewed some of the world's worst terrorists.

Terror in the Name of God: Why Religious Militants Kill

#261 Geepers

Their ability to synthesize the truth into a single image is amazing. That one gave me chills - and not in a good way.

Teaser and the Firebomber

Loook, ever since he bought into the fatwah against Rushdie for "The Satanic Verses," Stevens/Islam has been a nobody. Banning books has always been a pet peeve of mine. I recall Churchill's being educated about Hitler by having read "Mein Kampf," and cannot imagine a situation in which I'd want the government or libraries to ban a book, which is one of the reasons I was so upset about Borders and "Unfit for Command."

#261 Geepers

In the 80's coffee and stress led to many many heartattacks and killed many many people.

Today, it'll be pictures like that one that will cause many heart attacks. Not from shock or fear, but from an instant rage against anyone who would hurt Lady Justice.

(Hey... if Justice is blind, and being blind is a disability, why are so many Liberals quick to dispense with Justice, but always complain about making things fair for those with disabilities?)

At least one dead - possibly more - and 15 wounded in addition to the, apparently, female suicide bomber at Jerusalem's French Hill junction, adjacent to Palestinian areas.

Unconfirmed Palestinian sources claim the PLO Fatah al-Aksa Martyr's Brigade perpetrated the attack at a public-military hitchhiking station along the traffic-clogged intersection.

Prime Minister Ariel Sharon recieved news of the attack in the midst of a press conference with foreign journalists.

May we know no more sorrow on this eve of Yom Kippur.

Dave
[Link: www.AccessMiddleEast.org...]

#24 pdq332

I tweaked your parody lyrics to Moon Shadow, contact me if you want to see them!

Poor Cat Stevens! All this trouble for simply buying "Tea for the Killerman"!

Groan all you want to, they ain't getting any better:)

"Another jihad-y night
And I ain't got no bomb-belt,
I got the Semtex but it just ain't made
And how I wish I had something to blow up with
Oooh, I'm in an awful way!

It's hard on a jihadi
When there are no infidels around,
If I could find 'em I could kill 'em,
And the Q'uran says I'm not a villain,
I'm gonna bring this airliner down..."

[Link: www.cair-net.org...]

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For only $150 (package value over $300), we'll send these enlightening materials to a library of your choice that is interested in receiving them. CAIR has embarked upon an ambitious campaign to put quality materials about Islam in all 17,000 public libraries in the United States. If every person or community agrees to sponsor up to 10 libraries, we will easily meet our goal, Insha'Allah.

You can help educate your fellow Americans about Islam as a religion of peace and justice that has a rich civilization and culture.
---

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The Life of the Last Prophet (Audio)

Yusuf Islam (Formerly Cat Stevens), Mountain of Light Productions

This spoken-word audio biography of Muhammad has been applauded by audiences for its production style and narration. It was written and produced by the artist formerly known as Cat Stevens, who has sold over 60 million albums worldwide to date. It also features Yusuf Islam’s first song, a classical tribute to the Prophet, after seventeen years away from the recording studio. 70 minutes.

[Link: www.cair-net.org...]

#262 LanceKates

NOOO! Rove indoctrination injector, STAT! : )

#264 j.c

The biggest difference I see in the two POVs is that I believe we're at war; they don't. I don't want asymetry in a police action, but in war, I want enough of them dead that they are no longer a threat to me and my family.

#266 Furious J

Not bad - bring the prisoner population down, free up more soldiers. A win-win! I'd just suggest putting them in the pig skin BEFORE the execution.

Lyana (#268),

Agreed. They're brilliant. Far and away the best political cartoonist today. Yet for some reason Ted Rall is a nationally syndicated ... something.

LanceKates (#270),

I hope Charles will put it up on the front page.

CS is in the final stages of LLL disease.