These people are beyond contempt.

He'll blame it on the research guys

"selected bloggers" We must have had an election and I missed it!

You think that's lying?
Check out MMs prediction for the next POTUS

Consider the source

the media has become a megaphone for the U.S. military and its war on terror.

"Scuse me, but aren't the charges true? Saddam was the "butcher of Baghdad", Osama is an "evil doer", John Kerry is a "phony war hero", and Rather is in a "lather", so what's his point? And these are really just phony charges from the right wing attack machine? Oh, puleeze.

Charles, you should know better. While certain facts may be off, this represents "The Greater Truth"...

You'd think this Schecter guy would be a little more concerned about journalistic ethics and public trust in his own line of work. You'd think that...but I guess you'd think wrong.

Is Osama not an "evil doer"?! And Hussein not a "butcher"?!

I wonder how quick this guy would be to call people with who he disagrees the equivalent of Hitler.

And sorry to Charles that there are jack*sses in the world like this guy (oops, I guess that is "demonizing") who cannot get their facts straight and instead do exactly what they say others are doing--smear and demonize.

These people really do live in their own private world. I am glad I quit listening to them years ago.

Once again blind following of an ideology outweighs fact and reason...

Lamestream media will remain just that as long as these people refuse to open their eyes or do basic research.

Salon reports that the story casting doubt on the documents was first pushed into the news stream by Creative Response Concepts, a Republican public relations firm.

Besides being wrong, Salon has some f--king nerve. They openly whored themselves for Clinton during the impeachment, even sinking to Larry Flynt's level when they had to. And you can't sink any lower than that.

"It’s a textbook example of how attacks against journalists are used to denigrate news not to the right wing’s liking...

How about "attacks on journalists who lie and/or twist the truth to satisfy their own ideologies"... and who use words like "rabid" to describe intelligent people who think for themselves?

Charles, may they always be jealous of your success. That is what motivates these sad people.

LGF has never been in contact with Creative Response Concepts ...

Glenn Reynolds said that they never contacted him, either.

Why do I get the idea that this greasy little toad Danny Schechter knows that perfectly well?

"It’s a textbook example of how attacks against journalists are used to denigrate news not to the right wing’s liking...

The Left has no room to move when it comes to 'textbook examples' Not only are they the textbook example of whitewashing stories, but they also rewrite textbooks (via California's 'textbook standards') to suit their need for new voters. (mainly the brainwashed kids that read those textbooks)

Danny Schechter - doesn't his last name begin "Sphinc..."?

Gad, is this guy dumb, or what? Not quite sure who's dumber - Dan Rather or the author of the above.

Funny that Schechter thinks that to call Osama bin Laden an evil doer is an overheated, "cartoon-like" characterization.

What liberal media?

I guess Schechter has never listened to John "W is for Wrong" Kerry...

Let me give it a try:

"Danny the Sphincter Schechter"

Cartoon-like characterizations are cool!

I reiterate my Call to Arms:

The rancor of the left-wing campaign against George Bush, along with the communications revolution of the Internet and the clear technologic incompetence of the MSM, has created a Perfect Storm. This storm has exposed a deadly serious issue far beyond Dan Rather' incompetence as a journalist. In fact, with a few exceptions, they're all bad journalists, as they belong to a journalistic system that is terminally defective.

What needs to be understood is that it's not just CBS that is the problem, but the entire traditional media establishment. And while CBS might have committed the most egregious abuses, can one really think that ABC, NBC or PBS are any better? We need to take from this lesson more than just "Dan Rather is a bad journalist." The lesson is that the entire traditional media establishment is intellectually diseased, sclerotic and corrupt. It will be a source of harm against the American public for as long as it remains unchallenged, unrepentant, and unreformed.

The overriding issue is that any entity with great authority but without appropriate accountability will inevitably become corrupt. Yesterday CBS spokeswoman Sandy Genelius brushed off General "Buck" Staudt's comments in splendid totalitarian style: "In a debate this heated, one can hardly expect Gen. Staudt to endorse the point of view that he exerted undue influence", she said. In other words, General Staudt can hardly be expected to admit his guilt, the guilt that we at CBS "know" is true.

What, exactly, is the difference between what CBS is doing - with Rather demanding that Bush "respond to the charges against him" despite the fraudulence of the evidence - and People's Court-led communist show trials of the Soviet era, or the persecutions of the McCarthy era?

None, really. An absolute and corrupt authority, either on the left or the right, will eventually devolve to committing unjust excesses. Why? Power corrupts. Mainstream media has had enormous, unchallenged power for the last forty years. Much like inbreeding, this has led to degeneracy.

The Internet and its bloggers have altered the playing field very suddenly and dramatically. It took a revolution in communications technology, combined with media myopia and arrogance, for this Perfect Storm to emerge. So sudden is the change, in fact, that the technology-illiterate in the mainstream media clearly are not yet able to grasp just how much their profession has come under scrutiny. The "Theatre of the Absurd" that still emanates from outlets such as CBS news, the Boston Globe, and the LA Times show just how stubborn and resistant to this unpleasant reality the mainstream media is.

Rathergate is more than a scandal, it is a symptom of a disease and a call to arms. We must go beyond asking how to get rid of Dan Rather, and ask what needs to be done to stop the systematic and pervasive distortion of information fed to the American public.

And of course it's just sooo unsophisticated to refer to a mass-murdering islamofascist as "evil", or to a dictator with 2,000,000 cadavers on his hands as a "butcher".

Sorry this is so early...but I am going out for the rest of the day...

(better early than never)

War Metaphor of the Day: Portrait of "Iraq the Model" blog

Andrew B.

What a maroon.

Please...

The right-wing attack machine works by personalizing issues and demonizing “enemies” with overheated language and cartoon-like characterizations

Really?

Been to a NOW rally? Seen F/911 lately? Read Harpers Magazine much? "Bushitler" ring any bells?

Could these people possibly project any further?

The MSM is apparently so used to getting their "scoops" spoonfed to them by Democratic operatives, they can't imagine that it doesn't work the same way on the right.

email opinions to:

letters@newsday.com

#4 Dublin vs Kerry

From the MM article you linked to:

Turn off the TV! (Except Jon Stewart and Bill Moyers -- everything else is just a sugar-coated lie).

Sugar-coated, sugar-coated. Where have I seen that phrase recently? A memo?

Or is it MM decribing himself after a few donuts?

Yeah, brownshirts and gulags... right.

Oh gee, they're pissed that the right has "cartoon-ish names" for people like Binny and Sodamn Insane? As if the Left has room to talk.

A few Lefty nicknames for Bush I can think of off the top of my head:

Chimpy, Chumpy, Boy King, Bush*t, Bullsh*t, Shrub

And one "pet name" I found particularly telling:

Right Wing = Reich Wing.

Hypocracy, thy name is Liberal.

Freaky Boy #24

Image this cartoon of "Danny the Sphincter Schechter" as
a gaping brown star.
So, whose tool is he?

This is one more dumb bastard that does not realize that a revolution has taken place which will forever change how the public gets its news.
He is critacizing something he just does not understand.
Of course most of the Main Stream Media does not realize what has happened.
When more of the public figures out that by checking in with various Blogs and Websites they can get an indepth understanding of what is happening or what specifically they are interested in with less of a filter and can even comment on it the evening news shows will go broke.
Thank you Charles

The Republican National Committee operates its own 24/7 anti-news network to monitor coverage and orchestrate a rapid response.

The nerve of them actually watching the news outlets in case there is something they need to respond to quickly.

The letter they just got. To be honest I lived on Long Island for 25 years and Newsday was always a rag.

Below please find a flat out lie printed by the ever fair and balanced Newsday in the person of Danny Schechter.
Once again proving that you will apparently print anything that is in line with your views and ignore any inconvenient truths. Sounds like...CBS!!!
It coud happen to you too. The truth has a nasty way of outing itself.

"The Republican National Committee operates its own 24/7 anti-news network to monitor coverage and orchestrate a rapid response. Salon reports that the story casting doubt on the documents was first pushed into the news stream by Creative Response Concepts, a Republican public relations firm. Then, selected bloggers went to work led by an Atlanta lawyer who helped get President Bill Clinton disbarred and was the first who called the memos fakes. His charges spread like a prairie fire through the rabid conservative grapevine and amen corner. The goal: Focus the media on Rather, not
Bush."
The response:
"Why should this blatant lie be retracted immediately? Because Creative Response Concepts publicly apologized for their misleading press release five days ago. Shame on Danny Schechter, and shame on Newsday for printing his scurrilous attack." Charles Johnson of Little Green Footballs. You know-the folks who are making the main stream media look like dishonest fools?

Agree with me or I'll call you a Nazi and accuse you of demonizing my cause with overheated language.

It's a textbook example of how attacks against journalists are used to denigrate news not to the right wing's liking by planting items in the media food chain and cranking up an echo chamber of feigned indignation.

And this is a textbook example of someone who is so blinded by their moronic ideology (an ideology of HATE, I might add) that they are incapable of comprehending reality.

If Schechter had paid two minutes worth of attention to this affair (instead of going into "Stand By to Repel Right-Wing Propaganda" mode) he would have noticed that the blogs attacked the obviously forged documents, not Dan Rather.

Rather came under general fire only when the documents had been shot to pieces and he insisted on continuing to defend them. Schechter just adopts Rather's own lame excuse, made from the beginning, that the only reason there was controversy was that RIGHT-WINGERS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN OUT TO GET DANNY.

Who planted what in the media food chain? Is he saying the people who criticized the memos planted them? Or that the idea that they're forgeries is a "plant"? Either way he's an idiot.

To: letters@newsday.com

Dear Newsday,

Re: "Eye on the Media" ( [Link: www.newsday.com...] )

The reason that "an Atlanta lawyer" made charges of forgery is that anyone with even the slightest competence in modern information technology, as well as grade-school curiousity, could see that those "documents" were as phony as a $3 bill. *I* would have made the charges had I seen the documents before he did.

Does that make me a Repulbican operative?

Your editors are clearly technologic dilettantes. I'd suggest sending them to the local high school or community college for a better education on IT, but the courses might be beyond their level of comprehension.

Sincerely,

ScotSilv

The Republican National Committee operates its own 24/7 anti-news network to monitor coverage and orchestrate a rapid response. Salon reports that the story casting doubt on the documents was first pushed into the news stream by Creative Response Concepts, a Republican public relations firm. Then, selected bloggers went to work led by an Atlanta lawyer who helped get President Bill Clinton disbarred and was the first who called the memos fakes. His charges spread like a prairie fire through the rabid conservative grapevine and amen corner. The goal: Focus the media on Rather, not Bush.

Does:

the rabid conservative grapevine and amen corner

sound like a cartoon-like characterization?

Scotsilv,
Very well said I concur.

#4 Dublin vs Kerry

Thanks for that link, even though I make a point of not reading or listening to anything that POS has to say, I'm glad I read it. What a liar he is. It ties right in to the subject of this thread. They just don't get that a lot of people are not buying their crap anymore.

email sent to the editor

Dear Sir or Madam, In today's column Mr. Schecter writes: Salon reports that the story casting doubt on the documents was first pushed into the news stream by Creative Response Concepts, a Republican public relations firm. Creative Response Concepts has retracted that report. In the interview with PR Week, we tried to communicate that the bloggers, and then CNS [Link: www.cnsnews.com,...] were moving this story, which we then began pushing to conservative media, news websites and "mainstream" press. Here is the link: [Link: www.crc4pr.com...] Yes, indeed, we can, and do, fact check your ass.

#42

indeed

Then, selected bloggers went to work led by an Atlanta lawyer who helped get President Bill Clinton disbarred and was the first who called the memos fakes.

"Called" the memos fakes??? These people are just so pathetic.

WHOOOSSSHHH!!!

You hear that giant sucking sound? It's the Loony Liberal Left's media monopoly being sucked away right under their feet.

Long Live the Bloggers!!!

scotsilv #31

Done

Yesterday CBS spokeswoman Sandy Genelius brushed off General "Buck" Staudt's comments in splendid totalitarian style: "In a debate this heated, one can hardly expect Gen. Staudt to endorse the point of view that he exerted undue influence", she said.

She actually said that? Never mind that he was 18 months retired when the "memo" said he was pressuring subordinates? That piece of offal just called this retired general a coward! And earlier they called retired MajGen Hodges a liar. Of course, that's what the media folk think of all military people. They actually believe that John Kerry is right--all soldiers are criminals just salivting over the opportunity to rape, pillage, and plunder.

i was never very good with gramer and prose or english but help me out here:

the first paragraph:

The right-wing attack machine works by personalizing issues and demonizing “enemies” with overheated language and cartoon-like characterizations. Osama “the evil doer” bin Laden gave way to Saddam “the butcher of Baghdad” Hussein, and now John “the phony war hero” Kerry has been displaced with a “lather over Rather.”

the next sentence and conclusion of the paragraph:

It’s a textbook example of how attacks against journalists are used to denigrate news not to the right wing’s liking by planting items in the media food chain and cranking up an echo chamber of feigned indignation.

am i reading it wrong or is the author really saying that Osama bin-laden is a journalist?

The blogs have changed the world but remember the U.N. has asked for contrlo ofteh Domain names, saying it is "unfair' for all the control to be in the hands oif a couple of U.S. Corporations.
Plus a re-instatement of the Fairness Doctrine ends talk radio and may limit the internet.

whoops John Forgery Kerry has a sorethroat and headcold, perfect alibi for going fetal for a few days!!

More bad Gallup news for the media:

The CBS fontgate/memogate/Rathergate scandal has produced an uptick in feelings of liberal bias in the media, while trust in the press has fallen to an all-time low. According to new numbers (Subscription Required) from the Gallup organization, which has been tracking the question of media bias for many years, the issues of media bias and trust showed significant shifts during the time CBS was under scrutiny, September 13-15.

Rest assured, boys and girls, that the Dems are never going to forget this. Their speciality is taking revenge on other people for things that were their own damn fault in the first place.

Twenty years from now they'll still be looking for ways to get even with the blogs.

Here we once again see the technique of the Big Lie in full flower. Never mind about truth, just repeat the lie often enough and people will believe. So, this article uses already discredited and retracted charges to bolster its claim. And probably some people will believe it--but, hopefully, they will be limited to the already-convinced.

And what idiot thinks Osama Bin Laden is NOT an evildoer??? And why the scare quotes?

I am so grateful that blogs exist and that their readership is increasing. Not a moment too soon.

The crazy irony is that until recently, MSM would print stuff like this and no one could do anything about it. There was no means of retort or refute.

Now with the blogs, talk radio, and to a lessor extant FNC, we can challenge this kind of idiocy.

Ah, yes, "Danny Schechter the New Dissector".

Cut his teeth in Boston alternative radio (WBCN), where he never let the truth get in the way of a good leftist rant.

if W stands for wrong does F stand for phony?

#49 amyc

Of course! I mean, why interview the "source" of the supposed sugarcoating, who denies it, when you have a anti-Bush partisan Granny who supports your position but who didn't type the memos in question and couldn't tell you where the originals are.

IIRC, didn't Lively ALSO say the memo's CONTENT was BS. And Hodges. I mean, is there ANYONE other then the octegenarian secretary even agreeing with this story? Did I blink and miss it?

Am planning to take Rush's advice and produce forged Scott Peterson confession, fax to courthouse from local Kinko's and ask DA to introduce at trial. When Judge balks at admission, will suggest DA tell the Judge that he please ignore the fact that it's a forgery and focus instead on the content (because we all KNOW he did it, right?)

Will then have a Coke and await my imminent arrest.

I guess the right-wing attack machine was also responsible for "Bush=Hitler."

Listening to Rush praise bloggers: "ordinary Americans" the "ones who make the country work". "Look who brought the Tiffany Network down!".

Enough people now know that CBS is not what it portrays itself to be...because of the pajamahadeen. This little blogger story demonstrates [how]ordinary Americans have dragged big institutions to the truth.

Powerline, Free Republic...

oops, it appears that Rush hasn't read LGF, but still he has been praising the blogesphere for this last segment.

Instapundit Glenn Reynolds, ruminates on what political Bloggers are and their purpose ...

Great Article ... Instapundit link

But I think it misconceives what blogs are about. There certainly are bloggers posting on healthcare and other issues -- see, for example, Jeff Jarvis's Issues 2004 posts and this post by Ann Althouse on medical malpractice -- but the political blogosphere is to a large degree about media criticism. If the Big Media were talking more about issues, and less -- to pick RatherGate as the example which I think inspired this conversation -- about Bush's National Guard service, probably bloggers would be talking about issues more, too...

...But, all blogger triumphalism aside, the media criticism matters. And it matters because Big Media are still the main way that our society learns about what's happening, and talks about it. A serious breakdown there, which seems undeniably present today, is very important. In many ways, as I've said before, it's more important than how the election turns out.

25 scotsilv

Rathergate is more than a scandal, it is a symptom of a disease and a call to arms. We must go beyond asking how to get rid of Dan Rather, and ask what needs to be done to stop the systematic and pervasive distortion of information fed to the American public

No.

Who are you to say what this "systematic and pervasive distortion of information" is? Others think things that you accept are distorted. Who's right?

The issue is that no one believes there is any objectivity anymore. Conservatives believe that one set of media outlets is nothing but a set of DNC mouthpieces. Liberals believe the opposite. People have lots of choice in their media and accordingly they consume what they want to. Very few people make an effort to seek a variety of viewpoints.

Here's another view:

I'm sure we'll see this episode as the final collapse of network television's dominance over the news, and the final triumph of something else, something that is in some ways better, in some ways worse. On the one hand, the media are reverting to a more combative, pre-television norm, a time when partisanship was normal and you picked up your newspaper in the morning with a clear idea of the writers' opinions -- which did at least allow you to compensate for them. On the other hand, in this more competitive, post-television age, partisans expend a great deal of energy fact-checking others, and have more outlets on the Internet, on the radio, in the press and on TV for their findings. You don't like Rather? Click on [Link: www.ratherbiased.com...] You don't like Fox? Read Al Franken.

Much has been made in the past few years of the networks' "liberal bias." More dangerous, it seems to me, was the fact that the networks held a virtual monopoly over the most powerful form of communication. By its nature, television news has had far greater influence on politics, particularly national politics, than any newspaper or magazine could dream of. For that reason alone, more viewers watching a wider range of channels has to be better for the political health of the country.

Rather Irrelevant

That seems about right to me.

It’s a textbook example of how attacks against journalists are used to denigrate news not to the right wing’s liking

Maybe we should stop using blogs to do this sort of thing, and start using guns to attack jizzmalists. It certainly would even the odds

#60: You beat me to it. If you listen to Rush on a regular basis, you know he has some of his highest praise for the ordinary people who make this country work. To put bloggers in that category is a high honor.

Jeff Goldstein gives Schechter the thorough Fisking he deserves over at Protein Wisdom.

Glen Wishard (#53),

Twenty years from now they'll still be looking for ways to get even with the blogs.

Ain't it the truth?

They still haven't even figured out the success of "right wing" radio.

And their counter attack 15 years into the game is Al Franken and Air America?

And we're supposed to take them seriously?

#64 doppelganglander

True enough - he always says "you're the ones that make this country what it is."

Although, in some ways I'm glad he hasn't mentioned LGF -- can you imagine what would happen if his 20,000,000 listeners decided to "drop by" one day?? (Although I know many of them are already here.)

The upside, of course, would be that Charles perhaps could charge CBS-News type rates for advertising. Hmm...maybe these days that's not so much...

[Link: www.allahpundit.com...] - Allah weighs in, along with comments from A Small Victory and Goldstein about the duplicitious and factually challenged author of this 'newsetorial.'

There is another serious scam being currently run by the Democrates - they try to scare students into voting against Bush with emails claiming falsely that Republicans introduced to Congress the mandatory draft bill. The truth is that the bill is introduced by the Democrates and Republicans in Congress are not involved in the bill so far.

Charles

Watch an interview with Laura Bush when they ask her how she handles smear. What class. Me, I get upset. We could all learn from her insight and wisdom.

OT:

Swift Boat Veterans for Truth have released a sixth ad, this one with Jane Fonda:

[Link: www2.swiftvets.com...]
 

seeBS is losing the DAMN game:

Deny everything
Admit nothing
Make accusations
Never change your story

That smarmy little twerp Schecter responds. I pointed out another glaring inaccuracy in his "column".

You would think a criminal enterprise like Newsday, which twice now has had to "revise" their plummeting circulation numbers, would be careful to factcheck such a ridiculous piece.

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Thanks for the correction, and the rectification

must feel good to be so self-righteous

i never worked for PBS

will check Letterman date

and the haliburton connection, now that you mention it...

Danny the Dunce

>Boy, are you the blogosphere laughingstock of the day.
>
>Haven't laughed at a Danny this much since, well, this morning.
>
>What I want to know is, how did you not work Halliburton into the
>story?
>
>Obvious correction that should be forthcoming: David Letterman WAS NOT
>on the air Sept. 12, 2001, you dunce. Were you still in Boston at that time
>working for PBS, taxpayer funded media?

--
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Editor, Mediachannel.org
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inside politics' judy wood-ruff-ruff (as in bow-wow) is on the road with the J F(is for phony) Kerry campaign in florida livve on cnn is being verbaly "harrased" by (what must be an evil blogger) guy who is screaming "DUMP DAN RATHER NOW" what a riot!

#74 dustyroadguy

It is pretty funny. Just watching Judy trying to concentrate is priceless.

This guy is clearly an "asshole" and a "complete fucking imbecile"

with emails claiming falsely that Republicans introduced to Congress the mandatory draft bill

Old tactic that unfortunetly works if not counter effectively.

When I was in college in Wisconsin, the Dems spread stories that if Thommy Thompson would get elected, he was going to close two UW campus'. Of course which two to be closed would vary on where the story was being spread. It was always that campus and the next nearest one.

To show how gullible people can be, many students actually believed that a governor could go in a close a 10,000 student campus.

#77 Dave the...

I have gotten several emails today from the liberal (not Moonbat yet, but close) contingent of my friends decrying that George Bush is a monster and that I should be concerned that he's going to draft my 16-1/2 year old son in two years, and I'm a fool not to vote for Kerry.

My reply - hmmm...takes one to know one. Then I give them the skinny on the bill and it was basically Charles Rangel grandstanding, and that Republicans wouldn't touch this with a ten-foot pole.

And my son is planning to enlist in the Marines. The war in Iraq didn't change that and he considers Pat Tillman his personal hero. So, to my liberal friends - STFU.

The right-wing attack machine

Where can I get one of those?

Bush was recently called Hitler by Senator John Glenn and a U.S. representative. I sense another bed-wetting leftist who can dish, but not take. As the DNC goes into overtime 24-7-365 attack mode, they whine. Hypocrisy is their only virtue.

These are the same people who as a matter of "principle" won't call terrorists terrorists but insist on "objective" euphemisms for beheaders & murderers such as freedom fighters, activists, clerics, protesters, etc.

And Saddam Hussein was a duly elected President in their style book.

A draft is not something a conservative would do. Forcing it's citizens into a complusary government service would only be done if the country was in dire danger, such as we had in WWII.

I found the line John Glenn very disturbing. You expect that stuff from Michael Moore and you know the list.

But a Senator from Ohio...it's just really bad. I wonder how any holocaust survivors in Ohio feel about him minimizing Nazi Germany like that.

#65 Jeremy

Q: Why did Danny Schechter cross the road? A: Who the fuck is Danny Schechter?

By the time Jeff Goldstein, et al, get through with him, he'll be the guy with twenty superfluous anuses.

Kerry plays to the lowest possible denominator. This draft thing is just plain fear mongering. Its really pathetic.

If this holds sway over a significant number of voters then maybe we deserve Kerry as our leader- a pompous, deceptive egomaniac with no soul and a vacuum for a mind.

#78 Carolina Girl - My son is 13, and is probably the only person in the world who doesn't hope the Terror War is over in four years, because he can't wait to get over there and tear himself off a piece of it.

Salon reports that the story casting doubt on the documents was first pushed into the news stream by Creative Response Concepts, a Republican public relations firm. Then, selected bloggers went to work led by an Atlanta lawyer who helped get President Bill Clinton disbarred and was the first who called the memos fakes. His charges spread like a prairie fire through the rabid conservative grapevine and amen corner. The goal: Focus the media on Rather, not Bush.

...so the documents are fake?...I wasn't sure..

Newsday is old MSM, and not highly regarded...not worth much threading effort.

NYT, lets get more on their case.

Haven't seen recent NYT threads here lately.

Chicago Trib reported Rather still thinks docs are authentic, lets see where they stand.

#84 Furious J:

LOL! I was just reminded of Luke begging Uncle Owen to go let him joion the Imperial Academy, and having to stay behind for one more year's crop...

;-)

09/22/2004 Entry: "Gallup questions reveal CBS fallout"

#87 Cam - If his performance in Halo and Ghost Recon are any indication, he's going to collect a lot of terrorist scalps. Although, at this point, he thinks he wants to be either an MP or a UAV operator.

so the documents are fake?...I wasn't sure..

They aren't fake. According to A.P. and other news services they are "incapable of being verified as authentic".

Get with the program.

To the bloggers themselves (and bloggers in-waiting):

Whether it is reactive anger or emotion-free determination that motivates you to do what you do...just keep doing what you are doing. That is what put the blogs on the map of "something that cannot be ignored" and it will surely increase on the awareness map to "something that must be read" if you guys just keep holding your ground against fabrications, spins, propaganda and their authors.

One week ago, I had never visited a web log site.

Charles' work on this matter not only brought me surfing around to find it, but broke open my checkbook a few days later to help make sure he continues. I don't think I am unrepresentative of the many others still yet to find the value of this medium.

The next "project" will bring more and so on and so on.

Conversly, while I have been thinking the CBS thing would be just a serious dent while parked...and not a blowout at 60mph...it is starting to seem by the very, very tired and repetitious arguments that is all that is being offered by the MSM and LLL representatives, that they must be sensing they are, indeed, against the ropes on this one! There is no new approach or clever new argument...which would be indicative of an adversary feeling confidence in his/her game.

I think Charles and Co.'s work caught them so flat-footed, all they can do is read from the same singular talking points memo! If you don't like these guys or subscribe to their notions...the single most effective tactic to employ is to never let them catch their breath and regroup.

While I thought the guy from that relatively prestigious media watchdog group was a bit hyperbolic last week when he christened this event the first day of the end of the MSM as we know it...I'm beginning to wonder if he actually knew what he was talking about?

Keep up the good fight folks. You found an average-citizen admirer in me.

hey Carolina girl. What's wrong with people these days? Every person who has suggested a draft for as long as I can remember has been a liberal. They usually bring it up in the context of praising the European (Spanish?) compulsory military service or civil service for young adults. I even saw back sometime between 1992-1994 a former SecDef for the Johnson administration (Carlucci? not sure) interviewed on PBS Newshour. He was going on and on about how it would be good to bring back the draft because then the American people wouldn't stand for having our young people sent all over the world in conflicts blah blah. I admired the chutzpah of somebody from the Johnson administration coming on TV to make that case.

The problem here is the implication that there is something disreputable in being the first to call a fake a fake. Of course the Republican party people following the media and complaining about any negative press that they can reasonably take issue with. So does the Democratic party. That's their job. But whether or not they tried to start the ball rolling, it was only a matter of time, because the documents are blatantly and obviously suspicious. And it was the work of bloggers like Charles who ultimately clinched the case.

Personally, I'd rather be talking about Bush's failings than Dan Rather's. But it is not Bush or the Republicans who put the spotlight on Rather--it was Rather, himself, who was in such a hurry for a scoop that he didn't take the trouble to verify his documents properly, and then was disgracefully slow to acknowledge his screw-up.

I linked to this story earlier today.

At that time I said "...Danny Schechter of Mediachannel.org published had his stupifyingly nasty opinion piece published at Newsday..."

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

That's still my assessment.

Live from Brussels:

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"In order to support CanWest, I whipped up a quick Movable Type plugin, the CanWest filter. Just unzip and drop it into your MT plugins folder, and when publishing an MT entry select the 'CanWest' filter as text formatting."

A bug, cannot make this

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work (without the spaces).

Whatever. And the memos are still fake.

Brings to mind the old saying "The character of a man is measured now by his behavior when things go well, but instead when things go poorly."

To that end, the Memogate incident has been most illuminating.

P.S. The memos are still fake.

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#91 Casual Observer:

We are all average citizens here. I was like you until a few months ago when I found this site and others like it purely by accident.

There's much to learn from the exchange of ideas here. Please stick around, read, and chime in!

Roger L. Simon: The Mother of All Stonewalls

"Meanwhile, astride this world upside down, sits the Lord of Stonewalls, the slick king of the United Nations whose silver tongue and elegant manners mask a deviousness perhaps unknown even to him. We are in an era when lying to the self about the self has reached global proportions and takes place on a global stage. This man, Mr. Annan, who so many of us revered not so many years ago, now condemns the US action in Iraq while desperately hiding from view the complicitness of the organization he leads, the United Nations, in the horrors of that very dictatorship."

#91 the_casual_observer

Welcome to the frey! Thanks for the interesting analysis.

I think you're right. The left is so used to the having the upper hand in terms of dissemination of information that they simply can't deal with the uncontrolled communication that is the blogosphere. Their model is the carefully crafted, timed trickle of information through the usual MSM players used to drag out an embarassing issue, hoping it will fade from the public eye. The other extreme is characterized by the stay-on-message-no-matter-the-question "talking points" media blitz. Remember how "gravitas" entered the lexicon?

Well, the free and open communication of the 'net does an end-run around their defenses. They can no longer control the release of information, and their attempts to "shout down" others with volume+frequency of message simply doesn't apply here. Thus, their hysterical reactions and overheated hyperbole.

Rather spent his gravitas 1) by running the "memos" story in the first place and 2) by stupidly adopting the laughable position that the documents are "fake, but accurate." He has shone the bright spotlights on the failures of his biased media channel.

Rather, thanks for inflicting a mortal wound that will now fester until the beast collapses. You've done more damage to the MSM control structure than we ever expected, and thus advanced the imminent rise of distributed media.

That will be your legacy, Kenneth.

Ack! Hate those typos. Should read:

"The character of a man is measured not by his behavior when things go well, but instead when things go poorly."

I've never heard of these people.

For the record Newsday is my hometown paper here on Long Island and it is a disgrace. Rarely do I come across a more biased, dishonest and liberal newspaper. They are so bad they're like a cliche'. From what I hear their circulation numbers have been lackluster over the past few years, so in response they've recently changed the look and lay-out of the paper, going for a more busy New York Post look.

In their narrow minds they'll never consider that people are getting tired of their one-sided articles and editorials, and that people are turning to the Post for an alternative viewpoint. BOYCOTT NEWSDAY.

This is ridiculous.

The reason this has been a story at all is because left-wing media broadcast a lie and refused to back down after the mistake was pointed out after day one. And up until just a couple of days ago left-wing media, in coordination with Zuniga and Black were still trying to prove the authenticity of the forgeries.

Then when it got to the point when the forgery was obvious and it looked like the smear was going to backfire and discredit the left, NOW they want to claim victimhood? The forgery itself was a dishonest tactic. It failed and NOW they want to claim they were the ones who were wronged?

I'm sorry but that is laughable. And pathetic. And we're going to win this one, because we are in the right.

But the "Fortunate Son" Smear campaign and those lying frauds Harken and Daschle running in front of the Cameras THE VERY NEXT DAY after that CBS Hit Piece on a sitting President IN A TIME OF WAR during and election season was'nt co-ordinated? Just look at what they are SAYING we do and that's what they're up to!!

P.S. It looks like the Swiftees have managed to fire another devastating torpedo into the foundering Battleship Kerry, Burkett is said to have been livid at Kerry's late and lukewarm responses(what the hell is he gonna say to 60+ eyewitnesses?) and may have cooked up these documents to answer the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth(His claim of some bogus Lucy Ramirez giving them to him is pure Bulldung! He "burned" the originals the photocopied them to protect her identity my eye! He's just spinning a yarn to keep his sorry, mean spirited ass outta prison!)! If this proves true then it's a huge WONDERFUL BONUS for O'Neil and the boys!!! :D

The SBVT are holding up better then I thought they would. I was expecting more nasty personal attacks on them then just name calling. The individuals must not have any skeletons in their closets or we would have heard about it by now.

#95 Trumpeter

Works for me

Blog It Like It Is

I used this coding:

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No spaces in the hyperlink!

Danny who?

Back in the toilet, pal.

I live in NY and I don't know a damn person who reads bloody Newsday anyhow...

Well, it's a well-known fact that Danny Shechtor worked directly for Abu Zarqawi and takes orders from him as to what sort of articles he writes, to coordinate the post corpse-mutilation propaganda.

/Haha, now I'm being a Shector too!

Freedom of speach is a major obstacle to the collectivist Left.

This is yet another disgusting attempt by the left to limit our American freedoms. A few other examples:

**So-called "hate speach" which will be defined arbitrarily to whatever the mob majority agrees on that particular day. (This differs from an incitement to violence, which is a suggestion to commit a crime.) Beware what you write today on the internet. A Kerry hate-speach Gestapo may come knocking on your door in the near future.

**"Hate crime," in which some victims of crime recieve more (or less) protection by the law than others based on the thoughts of the perpetrator.

**"Campaign finance reform" in which you first amendment rights are suspended if you are discussing politics.

**Democratic lawsuits to prevent allowing voters to choose a candidate other than their own by keeping third party candidates off ballots. The DNC thinks most Americans don't know their history and don't know what happens in totalitarian states. They are wrong.

Make no mistake about it, friends, the collectivists of the Democrat Left are very angry that they cannot yet completely control the thoughts of Americans. They thought they had a lock with their information monopoly and are shaken by the blogosphere rearing its lizardoid head. And they will stop at nothing to subjegate the lives of every American to mass slavery through economic collectivism, differential seizure of property from the so-called "rich," and limitation of not only speach, but thought, too.

107 really grumpy big dog Johnson

#95 Trumpeter

Works for me

Blog It Like It Is

I used this coding:

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Nice! Thanks! But what is that

target="_blank"

No spaces in the hyperlink!

Sure, not. I inserted them just to avoid it to be converted to a link and to split it over several lines.

FRESH from Vast right wing conspircy phone bugs in CBS

We got caught Dan,

Yep.

What are you going to do?

Keep the story alive.. Bush is a a##hole.. I'll be damned if i'll resign.. CBS can Kiss my a##..(sounds of banging desk drawer) I've still got the fall back.

What fall back?

Wheres Bush's pay records huh? where huh? its damning.. Kerry agrees.. they can change the adds they have to the pay records we'll get him. damn i'm good..

Well good luck brother.

So the problem is blogs, not forgery by the MSM? Ok, I guess this article is the last dying gasp of the MSM, so we can rejoice.

When I write to these guys, I don't focus on their lies because they don't find anything wrong with lying.
I focus instead on something they can care about: MONEY MONEY and more MONEY.

to:
letters@newsday.com
Re: Danny Schechter's article

Are you aware that Danny Schechter is causing Newsday to be painted, much like CBS, as agenda-driven to the point of dishonesty?
Is this really good for your bottom line profits?
I don't know the demographics of Newsday, but I do know that jumping on board a sinking ship - CBS - is probably not a wise course to take from a financial standpoint.
If you even remotely appear to align yourself with a news organization that is under scrutiny for fraud, you must know that in the public eye you will take on the appearance of being agreement WITH fraud.
I read in part of Mr. Schechter's article the reference to bloggers and had to laugh, because this tendency towards fanatical bias in the media is actually driving people TO blogs. Is this the direction Newsday wants to drive business?
That just makes no sense, unless you plan on becoming a non-profit organization.

#62 BPP

Scotsilv wrote: Rathergate is more than a scandal, it is a symptom of a disease and a call to arms. We must go beyond asking how to get rid of Dan Rather, and ask what needs to be done to stop the systematic and pervasive distortion of information fed to the American public

BPP writes: No ... For that reason alone, more viewers watching a wider range of channels has to be better for the political health of the country

So, we need 100 Dan Rathers presenting fake documents to the public, since one man's news distortion is another man's truth.

I'm very sorry, but there are objective truths. Too many MSM outlets commit acts as egregious as presenting faked documents. As I said before, we must go beyond asking how to get rid of Dan Rather, and ask what needs to be done to stop the systematic and pervasive distortion of information fed to the American public.

His charges spread like a prairie fire through the rabid conservative grapevine and amen corner.

Among other things, the man can't write his way out of a paper bag. Ever hear of a mixed metaphor, Danny Boy?

Grapevines don't get rabies; grapes don't grow in prairies, and before you can have a praire fire in an amen corner, you have to decide whether you're inside (if yes, scratch the prairie image) or outside (scratch the corner, unless "prairie" means something different in your world than in mine).

Bad news from

Blah, blah, blah. The left can spew all the hate and venom it wants, but the facts remain: a left-leaning news agency attempted to use forged documents to sway the course of a Presidential election. CBS are still crooks and the left in general is still looking like a bunch of idiots (and moreso every day).

"The left can only take power through deception."

#117 Manco_Dollars

For the good news, click on "Projected Final Map".

I've been watching Maryland, a loony stronghold, go from "strong kerry" to "exactly tied" in less than a month, and Maryland is still trending Bush.

#117:

That looks bad at first glance (especially since Bush was sitting at something like 320 EVs a few days ago), but look at the trend. New England is getting less and less "blue", and increasingly red, as are the few midwest and southwest states that weren't red already. Added to that is Florida, which has swung from "barely Bush" to "Barely Kerry" for weeks now. Bush is remaining strong in his core support states, while Kerry is slipping badly in New England, which he absolutely needs if he's going to win.

#111 Trumpeter

The " target="_blank" after the hyperlink but within the command delimiters (the "<" and ">" symbols) causes your link you open in a new window.

That should be standard process for inserting links. Many people don't have high speed internet access, and unless they specifically go to the effort to open in a new window, they go the the webpage that was linked.

Then when they want to get back to LGF, it takes a long time to reload the page, especially if there are many comments on a topic.

BTW, if you use the "Link" option when you compose your comment, you will see the "target" modifier included by default. Thus when right now I click on "Link", here is the code that is inserted into the comment:

<a href="Enter URL of link" target="_blank">Enter text description</a>

#84 Furious J

Well, we know we did something right along the way bringing them up, didn't we?

What branch does your son want to join?

manco dollars, did you flub that link to electoral vote on purpose? I clicked it and got a lizard with a stop sign.

Newsday, the hamster cage liner rag, home of Ellis Homocan wouldn't be operational if the weren't able to satisfy their left wing long island liberals with smears and lies.

#124 amyc

The same thing happened to me twice today. Not sure what's going on ...

At any rate: Electoral vote predictor.

When I carefully re-read the "apology" posted at the CRC website, it occurred to me that nowhere in that text is any statement to indicate that they were not the first to run with this story.

Since Danny Schechter has apparently at least twice tried to represent himself as the person who "broke" the scandal, I wouldn't bother looking elsewhere at that site for that little scrap of unimportant information.

Sheesh.

Press Room - crc4pr.com

Every electoral map predictor is showing Kerry ahead by a lot. It's over folks, Kerry/Edwards for 4 years. It will be a nice disaster.

Some posters yesterday were saying that Rush Limbaugh seemed to be out of touch with blogs. Wrong. He was perfectly rhaphsodic about them today and explained in detail why the new media is succeeding.

What actually happened here? What actually happened here is that one of the time-honored, greatest institutions of highest repute in the history of media attempted to pass off a fraudulent story attacking a sitting president for the purpose of dooming his reelection in the middle of a campaign using forged documents. And look what happened. Ordinary people, sitting at home, with computers, were able to deduce in two hours that CBS was perpetrating a fraud on the American people. This would not have happened 16 years ago...

You can listen to it.

Ordinary Americans Brought Down CBS

#128 Manco_Dollars

You don't pay attention well, do you?

Electoral vote counters and projectors are as widely across the board as the polls.

As Colin Powell said over the weekend, there is only one opinion poll that matters...and it's not due out for another month and a half.

But, I have found some comfort from RealClearPolitics.com which at least uses a rolling average technique...and they come up with Bush 284, Kerry 200

Thom (#130)
You do know that Manco is a Moby of longstanding.

Below is a partial list of 'big media' that has a clear left of center slant to their opinions masquerading as news. Some worse than others. E.G. cBS

AP - Associated Press
Reuters (British News Agency)
BBC _British
CNN
NBC
CBS
ABC
New York Times
LA Times
Washington Post
PBS
NPR
SF Chronicle
MSNBC
AFP (French)
Al-Jazerra (Arab)
CNBC
Time Magazine
Hollywood Reporter
UK Guardian

Add: Newsday and any others you know.

To be fair, others right of center would be Fox, Washinton Times and WSJ.

That Bush leads in any poll speaks volumes to the decline of MSM as we know it. LGF, Power Line, et. al. keep up the good work.

Al

#132 Melissa

He is? Thanks for the clue. :)

#116 PaddyBeaner

So according to this Moonbat, NOW we're "rabid conservatives"; damn, and I just finished embroidering "odius neanderthal" on all my sweaters...

Rabid, huh? He better hope we've all had our shots...

#135 Rayra:

Charles, what is the value of this budding apparatchik being left to roam free?

'Cause, sad as it is, sometimes it's funny to laugh at the kids who ride the short bus.

;-)

CBS to investigate producer Mapes

Call to Kerry aide to be examined as part of documents probe

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

And this came from liberal-CNN!

Desperation rears its ugly head in so many different fashions.

OT -- having breakfast with Dick Cheney on Friday for a fundraiser and I'm psyched.

#137 cont.

Ahem...that would be "odious", not "odius"
It is, however, spelled correctly on the sweaters...

#117 Manco_Dollars 9/22/2004 03:06PM PST
Bad news from Electoral Vote:

Electoral Vote Predictor 2004: Kerry 269 Bush 253

I like these:

[Link: www.electionprojection.com...]

[Link: www.presidentelect.org...]

Manco is smoking bad stuff...

I am not an "it". Also what is "GAZE"

When the it says it's not an "it", it's time to GAZE.

DU troll Manco:

[Link: realclearpolitics.com...]
[Link: realclearpolitics.com...]
[Link: www.electionprojection.com...]

John Forgery(?) Kerry is over, dude.
This story ain't going away, despite Rather's pathetic denial-that-he-stonewalled-halfa$$ed-I'm-the-victi m,-here,-Folks!-quasi-apology.

OT: I wonder how gullible Bill Burkett had to be to believe that someone with James Carville's voice could be a woman named Lucy Ramirez. What a maroon!

Rayra

Longstanding in the sense that any time spent on his analyses seems like an eternity and is time decidedly not well spent.

I'm obviously way behind the curve on this topic, but just a few thoughts.

'Fox News branded this dust-up a scandal, a "Rathergate," using a familiar "change-the-subject" tactic to deflect attention away from persuasive charges that President Bush has not told the truth about his military "service."'

um, and ABC, NBC, CNN, Wash Post, NY and LA Times, Newsweek, Time, US News and World Report, USA Today... wow. It was all orchestrated by Fox.

What part of the story was left persuasive when all they had left was a bitter old man who provided the bogus docs in the first place?

'The right-wing attack machine works by personalizing issues and demonizing "enemies" with overheated language and cartoon-like characterizations.'

what blatent hypocricy. These are the exact tactics used by CBS and Rather appologists. Shoot the messenger - Boggers in general, and Buckhead in particular, Fox, the white house, even their own source - all were fodder for the blame game.

unbelievable.

#148 noble vision -OT: I wonder how gullible Bill Burkett had to be to believe that someone with James Carville's voice could be a woman named Lucy Ramirez.

Well Carville is the best man on staff for the job, huh? Being bald it'd be easy for him to put on a wig, and I bet he looks killer in eyeliner and spike heels!
Add that sexy southern accent and oooh-lala!
hehe :OP

Now AlterNet is spreading the Danny Schechter screed, this time under the title Dan's Nine Lives.

Pathetic.

#141 megs
That's pretty cool.
I shook W's hand.

We're just going to have to get used to them being a week behind the blogs on every big story. It's not their fault, they're just lazy and slow. They need help. That's why we have a DNC - to give the 'special kids' in the journalism world a helping hand with their homework.

It is interesting during the Democratic National Convietamention they talked about how Democrats had so many of "their" bloggers present and that they are on the "cutting edge" of technology and so far ahead of the Republicans.

This whole forgery scandal is another illustration of the leftie peddled lie that the MSM is not liberal or that the MSM is 'corporate/rightwing.'

Every leftie and his or her brother has been going to all extremes to support Rather or excuse Rather. If CBS & Rather are neutral or 'right-wing' why would the lefties run to his defense? Let Rather and his cohorts fend for themselves. Why invest your own credibility in Rather's follies and go down with him in the process? The reason they support Rather is because they know Rather is their boy. An assault on Rather may as well be an assault on the left personally.

Good evening,

I have never written to a news organization until now, but the Schechter piece was so over-the-top that I felt I must voice my wee criticism. Frankly, in the wake of Rather's scandal, I'm surprised this sort of blatant anti-conservative screed could make it past the editors. But it has and so I write.

Yes, I'm going to vote for Bush, but this shouldn't make my criticism invalid. Please hear me out.

I regularly surf the web for news, having bookmarked more than a hundred sites on both left and right. On a daily basis I visit these sites from the left: Kos, DU, Dean's site (blog for America), Indymedia, Mathew Gross, and Change for America. From the right I visit National Review, Hugh Hewitt, real clear politics, powerline, little green footballs, Professor Bainbridge, and belmont club. I also visit journalism sites including poynter(s), typepad, romanesko (also pointer), clay shirky, joi ito and my favorite, Jay Rosen's pressthink. Checking all these sites takes about one-to-two hours a day.

It simply is not the case that Republican or conservative sites are "right wing attack machines," as your reporter said. The left, for the most part, is just as rabid when angered. In fact, I'd be willing to argue that the left seems far more irrational and angry than the right. All sorts of odd-ball theories of conspiracy and collusion seem to collect in lefty sites and though, at times, righty sites have similar odd-ball theories, they don't appear with the regularity or venom as those on the left. Many of the right sites despair over the vocabulary used by the MSM to describe, for example, "terrorists." To those on the right, the words chosen by the MSM aren't merely synonyms, but words reflect the media's generally left-leaning mentality.

So when Schechter described the right as using terms such as "evil doer," "the butcher of Baghdad," etc., the issue is not that these words are disputed by the more conservative bloggers -- they are not -- but that they were used by Schechter with a mocking and disparaging tone. He obviously hasn't interviewed any conservatives who worry about the media's use of language. In the right blogosphere, this will go down as just another example of left-wing bias and misunderstanding. And, although its not on topic, relying on CRC is incredibly poor sourcing on the part of your reporter.

It must be clearly understood by you and others in the MSM that blogs are almost always INDEPENDENT from both campaigns. When I read Stephen Bainbridge's blog, for example, I know that the opinions are those of a particular law professor in California who has beliefs and knowledge that makes him interesting to me. In Bainbridge's case, I am fascinated by his conversion to Catholicism, his wit, his knowledge of corporate law and how it applies to the campaign. His opinions are his own.

Similarly, when I read Jay Rosen's wonderfully written blog, I know I am hearing the voice of another professor, a J-prof from NYU. He generally swings from the left, but he genuinely laments what is happening to the MSM and seems to want to journalism to retain true objectivity (should I put that in sneer quotes?). I love his prose.

Perhaps I shouldn't have referred to two professors because you may think that non-academic sites are less individualistic. They are not. Even sites with two or three authors retain an individualistic flavor. I find it interesting that many bloggers were personally changed by the events of 9-11 either because they survived the destruction or because their worldview suddenly and radically changed course. Jeff Jarvis's Buzzmachine is an example of a journalist who was a hardcore leftist until 9-11 and survived the destruction. Charles Johnson over at Little Green Footballs was a life-long Democrat until 9-11. Both of these individuals write out of, and because of, this experience and both envision 9-11 as a watershed event in their mental history.

Oh, the above is the letter I just sent to Newsday. Sorry. Thought you may want to see what they are getting.

The following story in the Sydney Morning Herald mentions Charles, LGF and The Pygamahadeen.

Beware bloggers in pygamas

[Link: www.smh.com.au...]

'Bloggers - private individuals with their own websites - had "blown the cyber-whistle", as the Washington Post called it. One of the first bloggers on the case was Charles Johnson of the little green footballs website (www.littlegreenfootballs.com), a 51-year-old Californian web designer who quickly demonstrated why the memos were frauds.'

Nice article. The Aussies didn't say Charles was conservative - which is almost unique, isn't it? - but everyone now knows his age - if they're reporting it correctly, that is. Maybe they want to put it in to illustrate that he's not just some geeky kid.

Danny Schecter was a news commentator during the 1970's for WBCN in Boston, which was a leading mouthpiece for the left in those days. I no longer live in New England, but suspect that WBCN hasn't changed much in the interim. "Danny Schecter the News Dissector" (his tagline) certainly hasn't. Even though he was on the radio, you just knew that he was wearing his tin-foil hat during his broadcasts.

Little Danny Shyster checking back in again.

Apparently, he did not have a nice day:

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At least i don't hide behind anonymous hate mail and adolescent put downs

as for letterman

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

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