Wow.

bugmenot page for the ajc story

This a pretty funny observation:

[Link: spinswimming.blogspot.com...]

John Kerry= THREEPIO

THREEPIO: We'll be destroyed for sure. This is madness!
We're doomed!
Secret mission? What plans? What are you talking about? I'm not getting in there!
Are you sure this things safe?
How did I get into this mess? I really don't know how.
No more adventures. I'm not going that way.
That malfunctioning little twerp. This is all his fault! He tricked me into going this way, but he'll do no better.
I'm only a droid and not very knowledgeable about such things. Not on this planet, anyways. As a matter of fact, I'm not even sure which planet I'm on.
I told him not to go, but he's faulty, malfunctioning; kept babbling on about his mission.

I like to think that kerry has some seriously bad karma coming due this elelction cycle. Bad enough to blacken his name among the people of America for decades to come.

That is very poignant. Makes me teary-eyed. And this is just one of many, many stories.

And I'm sure she's not the only one.

I wish I could vote Nov 2.

We MUST NOT elect John Kerry and we MUST NOT let him do this to this generation's soldiers.

I've always said that Kerry's prostitution of his Viet Nam service to whatever side would give him the most political clout was an absolute disgrace. And he just doesn't get the fact that most of us have moved past Viet Nam and would just rather put the era behind us.

But this kind of story is an illustration of the fact that we can't really put it behind us until we honor all of the fine, brave men who gave their lives for their country during this brutal and tragic war...

... the men who John Kerry willfully stomped into the dirt with his politically-motivated, attention-grabbing, second-hand bullshit Congressional testimony and treasonous European liason with the Viet Cong - while he was still a commissioned officer in the Naval Reserve.

My condolences to the Gell family.

Wow! (Sorry AG, but I had the exact same reaction you did)
This kind of makes all our squabbling about politics seem very small.
This man was a hero like all others who gave their life in the cause of freedom, and their families live with this sacrifice every day for the rest of their lives.
Don't let a traitor like John Kerry get away with harming so many people's memories of loved ones.

OT

Moonbat's preparing to disrupt Presidential debates:

The Monsoon Anarchist Collective (MAC), a member collective of the Phoenix Anarchist Coalition (PAC) invites radicals, anarchists, and anti-authoritarians to Tempe, Arizona to confront the third, and final, presidential debate on October 13, 2004.

The Monsoon Anarchist Collective (MAC), a member collective of the Phoenix Anarchist Coalition (PAC) invites radicals, anarchists, and anti-authoritarians to Tempe, Arizona to confront the third, and final, presidential debate on October 13, 2004. After three years of increased state repression at home and a brutal war machine put into use abroad, both the democrats and the republicans gave the thumbs up to this madness, and now, these racist liars, these greedy warmongers want to come to Tempe to talk civility!

Are they welcome?

No way in hell!

We call upon the anti-authoritarian movement to join us in these dire times by coming to the valley of the sun, to resist the emperor and his would-be successor and this tired racist system. In these times of total war, the rich tighten their strangle hold on the poor at home and abroad, and now their puppets, left and right, are coming to Tempe to offer their solutions, which we know to be more of the same: the rich get richer and the poor keep on dying. We know that whatever lies they may tell during the debates we can count on one thing, they sure aren’t going to promise anyone any more freedom or democracy!

blah blah blah, you know the screed.

It is very sad and tragic that Kerry returned from Vietnam only to libel his band of brothers by calling them war criminals, and to throw away his medals. For smearing the names and memory of innocent people, Kerry needs to apologize, publicly and sincerely.

But the irony of it is that he feels he deserves to be president mainly because he is proud of his service in Vietnam. He mentions this service in Vietnam all the time, implying that he is proud of it. How proud of his service was he when he threw away his medals? It's all so inconsistent, ironic, even fraudulent.

Kerry has not, to my knowledge, ever publicly apologized for his libeling of the American soldiers and officers that served in Vietnam. He just has underlings and associates say that he was young and foolish at that time. But that is not an apology from Kerry. And he needs to make one.

Addendum to Post #11

Come prepared, bring your: Banners, drums, flags, street theater, food, water, tents, bedding, your collective/affinity group, and creative ideas for direct action

What? No pink tanks or giant paper mache heads?

How 'bout an impromptu NRA gathering in Tempe on Oct 13?

#4 Gumble:

We'll be destroyed for sure. This is madness!
We're doomed!
Secret mission? What plans? What are you talking about? I'm not getting in there!
Are you sure this things safe?
How did I get into this mess? I really don't know how.
No more adventures. I'm not going that way.
That malfunctioning little twerp. This is all his fault! He tricked me into going this way, but he'll do no better.
I'm only a droid and not very knowledgeable about such things. Not on this planet, anyways. As a matter of fact, I'm not even sure which planet I'm on.
I told him not to go, but he's faulty, malfunctioning; kept babbling on about his mission.

LOL!

Only one problem - C3PO didn't get a souvenir hat from Obi Wan Kenobi.

horribly OT: the new hitchhikers guide to the galaxy radio series just started tonight. episode available tfor download on the Beeb site. (the only reason to go there)

[Link: www.bbc.co.uk...]

Interesting Link Charles....

How did you find this site? Stubbled onto it?

#14

I'm so THERE.

Just aired out my new (to me) MAK-90 today replete with 30 round mags. Moving target practice would be fun :)

#3 evariste

Thanks for the link. You damned computer punks are good for something, after all.

#13 Krager

Come prepared, bring your: Banners, drums, flags, street theater, food, water, tents, bedding, your collective/affinity group, and creative ideas for direct action

And if Amerikkka was ruled by the

The Monsoon Anarchist Collective (MAC), a member collective of the Phoenix Anarchist Coalition (PAC)

How fucking far would they be allowed to move.

Drudge------

CONTROVERSIAL TEXAS RANCHER SAYS LOCKHART WANTED DOCUMENTS // The source of a disputed CBSNEWS report claimed Thursday that Kerry adviser Joe Lockhart tried to "convince me as to why I should give them the documents." Texas Army National Guard Lt. Col. Bill Burkett tells the FORT WORTH STAR-TELEGRAM that he has suffered four seizures since being identified as CBS' source and dogged by the media... Developing...

You know, I'm so waiting for this stuff to get out to the mainstream. I figured that the Bush campaign was sitting on stuff like this and just waiting for the right time for it to come out. And when I mean out, I mean in the MSM. Not articles here or there that aren't much noticed 'cept by us. I mean a full blown mudslingin' by the Bush Campaign, backed up by articles such as this.

Maybe I'm jumping the gun a little, and should bide time. Maybe it's not really necessary, since all you have to do is give 'im enough rope. But still, I am getting ansy.

But I really think that this stuff should get out so there is no dispute as to the person Kerry really is. And if people still vote for him knowing all this stuff....well so be it....another clarifying moment.

^dy/_dx

#21 Fay:

And if Amerikkka was ruled by the The Monsoon Anarchist Collective (MAC), a member collective of the Phoenix Anarchist Coalition (PAC)

I'd love it. In quick order, the POV (Pissed Off Veterans) would wipe them out and put an end to this LLL 5th column crap right quick.

#24, yea I feel that way too, all of it.

#25 Kragar:

From your lips to G-ds ear.

OT but I need to vent.

The Daily Show is on, and tonight's show was beyond words when it comes to outright dishonesty.

I used to like the Daily Show, though I hadn't been able to catch it for the last couple of months. When did John Stewart cross the line from comedian to verbal sniper gunning for Bush?

The whole show seemed designed to perpetrate the worst stereotypes about everything I care about.

Jokes are fine- and useful. People need to laugh about themselves. But these... these weren't jokes. It wasn't even good satire.

song_and_dance_man (#30)

They are not all posting. they are observing.

If only the idiot trolls were so reticent.

#30 song_and_dance_man

Some of us are trying to figure out this damn laptop keyboard in a haze of drinks ;-)

28 Raposa

John Stewart lives in an alternate universe. Watching his show you would think 99 percent of the American people are marching in lockstep with Kerry -- no indecision, just total mind merge with the left. Its bizarre to watch his show. He's going to be like that on election night, and his audience right there with him. And he's going to be like that on the night after election. And anyone watching his show is going to wonder who -- WHO -- is in his audience? He's still going to act like the whole country is for Kerry, even when he gets trounced.

#11 Krager

Not if I can help it where talking about my State we tend carry weapons in the open.

#35 Sli

Good to hear. IMO, an armed society is a polite society. Explains why the LLL are such rude bastards.

#36 song_and_dance_man

Salut :-)

I joined the Army in 1973. Since then, I have been in or directly affiliated with the US military for all but 6 years.

I can say honestly that I have known a couple of people who "confessed" to committing what I would consider war crimes. Mostly though, such confessions were blurred by sobs and were heavily influenced by alcohol or some other drug of choice.

I can also say that I knew a couple of people who professed real joy about the killing they did in Vietnam. Some even had pictures. To this day, I believe all but one of those people were full of shit. They were talking to convince themselves and others that all that killing was not a bad thing, but it _always_ sounded like cheap bravado. All but once, and the last time I saw that one person, he was supposedly on his way to Africa to work as a mercenary. That was in late 1975, and he was really pissed off that the US hadn't gone back to Vietnam when the South collapsed. I heard he died in Angola or thereabout.

Having said that, I must also say that in the 31 years since I joined the Army (at the young and STUPID age of 17), I have overwhelmingly been among the most honest, hard working, patriotic, honorable, and downright decent people I have ever known.

I left active duty after 14 years and migrated fairly far away from it, only to find that I had almost _nothing_ in common with people who had never Served. I also found that I had no tolerance for the negative, anti-American, anti-military, anti-government opinions of anyone who had never served (or tried to serve) a day in any capacity in any national public or private "service" organization, and I include the Coast Guard, AmeriCorp, Peace Corps, Salvation Army, and other such organizations in that list. I also tended to treat women differently, but only older women. Many of my subordinates in the Army were female (about 50% from '82 on), and most were damned good soldiers.

The most important thing I discovered, however, was that I mostly missed being around decent, honest, hard-working, world-aware people who cared about more than the latest toy at BK, or about whether OJ really did it, or any of the other pop-culture shiny-object crap most Americans become infatuated with.

Basically, I found I missed being around military people, so a few years ago I gave up a good paying job pimping internet service as the manager of an ISP, and I returned to government service in a less well-paying position. To be honest, I have not cared for some of the work or the locations, but on the other hand, since 9/11, I have met more truly brave men and women than most Americans will ever get to know. I am truly humbled by many of them.

Which brings me to the point at last: Senator John F. Kerry's so-called service doesn't hold a candle to the true Service of the Vietnam veterans I lived and served with, and it _certainly_ doesn't qualify him to be the CinC of the people I work with now!

I believe Kerry's election would be an unendurable insult to the people who really did serve and those who still do, and his election should be opposed by everyone everywhere who actually cares about this country or about the people who really have Served it!

V/r,
SangerM

To anyone who sadly has been affected by the currrent hurricane season, would you believe that move on . shit has inferred that it is President Bush's fault? I swear I am not kidding:MoveOn: Bush to Blame For 'Extreme' Hurricane Season.

In vue of this, please submit all claims to that great humanitarian, george soros. (may his name be obliterated).

#41 NYNana

Hey, I know Bush is Lord, but isn;t that a bit much for even the Dhimmicrats?

song_and_dance_man, L'Chaim!

#40 SangerM
Thank you!!!!!

Charles, Tina Brown has decided, in an amazing inversion of logic, that it's YOUR fault that Dan Rather forged those documents!

Herewith:

“Fear of missing the bandwagon is behind all the hype about the brilliance od the bloggers who blew the whistle. …Now the conventional wisdom is that the press will be kept honest and decent by an army of incorruptible amateur gumshoes. In fact, cyberspace is populated by a coalition of political obsessives and pundits on speed who get it wrong as much as they get it right. It’s just that they type so much they are bound to nail a story from time to time. [Tina Brown’s “500 Monkeys & Shakespeare” theory of blogging]

“The rapture about the bloggers is the journalistic equivalent of the stock market’s Internet bubble….The equivalent today is when news outfits that built their reputations on check-and-double-check pick up almost any kind of assertion and call it a “source.” Or feel so chased by the new-media mujahedeen they start trusting tips garnered from God-knows-where by a partisan whack job in Texas. [The forgery is all the bloggers’ fault, see?]

“A further symptom of the nervous breakdown was the spectacle of the intrepid CBS producer Mary Mapes—she who was set to win all the prizes for her Abu Ghraib expose [awwww]—crossing the line [just now!] between independent journalism and political intrigue when she gave in [oh, reluctantly!] to her source’s request to put him in touch with the Kerry campaign. [and how is This action instigated by fear of competition?] The way things have unraveled must be Karl Rove’s wet dream: a living, breathing example of ostensible [;-P] liberal media bias with which to bludgeon the rest of the press into an even deeper defensive [so beleagured! So outnumbered!] crouch.

“Documents or no documents, everyone [sic] knows President Bush’s dad got him out of Vietnam. [Yeah, who needs that old boring evidence stuff?] Everyone knows [uh-huh] he thought he had better, funner [sic] things to do than go to a bunch of boring National Guard drills. Only a killjoy like Senator Kerry would spend his carefree youth racking up high-minded demonstrations of courage and conscience, right? [This wins my award for Weirdest, Most Gnomic Sentence of the Year.]

“…There are lies floating around [in the porcelain bowl] that are a lot bigger than anything CBS or Mr. Bush is saying or hiding about what happened 30-odd years ago in Texas and Alabama. They’re about Iraq and they’re about now, and Mr. Kerry is finally talking about them [what, exactly? Specify, woman.] coherently enough to have a chance of getting some traction.

“As for Mr. Rather and CBS, it wasn’t really politics that drove them over the edge, was it? [She invites you to agree. How nice] It was romance.”

"It wasn't the airplanes. It was Beauty killed the Beast."

GUFFAW!!! By Ms. Tina Brown, Eurotrash, Wrecker-in-Chief of the New Yorker. Gadabout town, seen at all the Best ParTAYS. Have you ever read such incoherent, spiteful twaddle? Not a solid argument in the lot. Published, I’m sorry to say, in the NY Sun, where she has a column for some unfathomable reason. Gaaaaaack.

I live near where Ivan came ashore. Many of my coworkers lost their homes. Some of the people who lost their homes are in Iraq. or their spouse is.

Fuck the people who write such specious trash. I suer wish they'd come here and stand on the corner and make these pronouncements.

Assholes!

feh!

SangerM

John Kerry's open betrayal of the men and women who served in Vietnam is given a free pass, and this demonstrates a huge and distrastrous split in our culture.

Apart from the Swift-Boat vets, almost no one calls on Kerry to answer questions about his allegations of atrocities, univeral drug abuse, etc., or his association with the pro-Viet Cong VVAW - including his inability to refute the charge that he was present when VVAW members plotted the murder of 10 US senators.

But Bush's activities during his assignment to the Alabama Guard is considered to be sinister beyond belief, demanding the most minute examination.

I'd like one honest Democrat to explain this. Like God at Sodom, I'll only ask for one.

I'd like one honest Democrat to explain this, PLEASE.

#47 Glen Wishard

Senator Kerry does not respond to such vicious attacks on his character. After all, he served in Vietnam.

/official Democratic response to such questions

Thank you SangerM.

During my time in the Vietnam War, I had the high honor of serving in the 1st Battalion, 9th Marine Regiment, 3rd Marine Division, 3rd Marine Amphibious Force; The Battalion endured the Longest Sustained Combat and suffered the Highest Killed In Action (KIA) rate in USMC history.

The Vietnam War Memorial Wall in Washington, D.C., honors the supreme sacrifice of 619 Marines of the Battalion.

John Kerry crossed the line in his comments before congress, tarnishing the names of these patriots who paid the ultimate sacrifice.

Semper Fi

TP

I only get to post here on occasion, (which is probably good) although I try to scan through every chance I can.

I haven't watched the recent beheading videos, I'm not sure I can take much more, though I feel they should be watched.

Why is it, that I know all of these ugly truths of things, that I should not be surprised, but yet seem to find myself surprised at these horrific things?

Pardon me, I'm diverted with other life situations, but WHAT THE F**K IS WRONG WITH TELEVISION MEDIA and WHY DON'T AVERAGE FOLKS KNOW WHAT THE F**K IS GOING ON?

How come I have to forward stuff, how come the liberal TV media rules? How come no one knows this stuff? How can JOHN EFFING KERRY be a "viable" EFFING FUCKING CANDIDATE??? WTF?????

I'm sick to my stomach.

I'm so very grateful for talk radio and LGF and the like. But I'm so effing tired of "old media" that I'm literally sick to my stomach.

I'm SICK and speechless.

Sick and Speechless in the South Bay

#40 Well done.

This Vietnam thing really has cast a shadow over the country. We used to be patriotic. Idiots like Kerry did more to harm our country than North Vietnam. We lost at home because of guys like him and he was one of the most outspoken of the Vietnam Vets Against the War. We are still divided over it all these years later.

The only awards Kerry really earned were the ones given to him by the North Vietnamese. You can see a picture of the traitor and the General Secretary of the Communist Party and the plaque that thanks him at the Ho Chi Minh City War Remnants Museum on pages 89 and 90 in the Unfit for Command book.

He is trying the same thing he did with the Vietnam war with the Iraq war. Let's face it, Bush as CinC took out two very hostile regimes with less loss of life in less time and less cost than any of our conflicts. Not just less loss of life but at a minimum loss of life. Can you picture that kind of fortitude in Kerry?

Yes, SangerM,

I spent three years, three months, and seven days as a junior officer on three separate tours in Vietnam's Tonkin Gulf. The conditions of my "voluntary" service had me onboard one of the two aircraft carriers that first bombed Hanoi in late summer 1964. I hated the circumstances that pushed me into service when I graduated in 1963; I guess you could say that I had a three year resentment.

I was "de-activated" (like President Bush) and was well into my civilian career by the time the John Kerry was meeting with the Vietcong in Paris and when he began his smear. I must say I was too contemptuous of the anti-war crowd to attend to his posing and calumny. I don't really remember noticing him at the time, although I do remember the Senate carnival and the ribbon toss by the VVW demonstrators.

But over time, as I learn about Kerry's history, and as I compare his with mine and that of my fellow servicemen, I become angry and resentful.

I do regard John Kerry as a traitor and, at the very least, a self serving treacherous wretch of a man whose vacuuous character will be the death of us all.

Having said that let me also agree with you to add that the men I served with were good and decent. We believed we were fighting a great malignancy that needed defeating.

Whatever judgement hindsight brings we do not deserve the insult of this man's candidacy.

#42 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Somehow I get the feeling that it is an anti-Bush site....the connection to Billionaires to Bush, and the use of a photo of the Twin Towers on 9/11 did it for me...

Nothing is considered as going to far when it involves the dhummicrats. tereeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeza must have been there, distributing Heinz™ ketchup to the poor people who have lost their homes and everything they own. Hanoi john waited to go there to campaign, as he felt going there while so many people were suffering and in shock would only put him 'in the way' of the rescue workers..strange, when President Bush made at least 2 trips to survey the damage, there was no problem.

I will never, as I have so often stated, forget what the President and Mrs. Bush did for New Yorkers aftr 9/11. Bluntly, Hanoi john hasn't a clue re re WoT, nor do his fellow dhummis.

So help me, if I used my glucose meter to test Hanoi john and tereeeeza, there would be no blood, only ice water to test.

Kerry continues to F*** up the sports vote

John Kerry, sucking up to New York Democrats at a fundraiser Monday: John Kerry, sucking up to New York Democrats at a fundraiser Monday:

"At the fundraiser, Kerry reflected on his reborn self. He praised the triple victories of the Jets, Giants and Yankees and said: 'I came here to bask in your glory, came here to grab onto that winning streak.'"

As a member of Yankee Nation wrote in "What self-respecting 'Red Sox fan' would ever be thrilled with the Yankees winning, particularly when the Yankees beat THE RED SOX in the victory he's referring to? Talk about a flip-flopper!"

Meanwhile, another emailer checks in on the Sox fan candidate:

"It's not your fault that George Bush doesn't make idiotic comments about the Red Sox. If Kerry can't get one of his lackeys to give him the info necessary to pretend to be a Sox fan, then he shouldn't say anything at all. Not to mention that on Letterman he claimed to be a great closer (as Election Day draws nearer) and said this is something the Red Sox were lacking last weekend. Well, John F, not to nitpick, but if your team gives up 9 runs in the first 2 innings, closing is clearly not the issue. Keep up the good work, DD, call 'em as you see 'em.

Remember, this guy previousley bounced a ball at a RedSox game prior to the DNC, said Eddie Yost was his favorite RedSox (Yost never played for the Sox), and is a windsurfer.

This young woman spoke on CSPAN, at a rally on the White House Lawn. It was Vietnam Vets Against Kerry. There were many people, many families.

Following this, CSPAN gave coverage to Vets For Kerry. Interestingly, Vets for Kerry was a press conference, and not a rally.

The previous Boston RedSox - Kerry junk brought to you by BostonDirtDogs.com, a great site that is chock full of information and FUNNY.

You don't have to be a RedSox fan or even a baseball fan to like their headlines and humor. Check 'em out!

I sent this article to my mother - who was active duty at the time but not sent to Vietnam, my father, who WAS in Vietnam, my husband, and my open minded lefty (really - she really is!) friend. I would like to hear what their take is on it, as my Dad goes through his "sit on the couch nursing a beer and watching Vietnam movies" moods every now and then.

My da admitted to me today that he supports Kerry because (a) Bush didn't actually go to Vietnam and Da can't get over the feeling that strings were pulled, and (b) there are no Bush kids in the military being affected by these decisions but 2/3 of my Da's kids are affected.

Of course, Pops has other problems with Bush, but those are his main beefs. He wants Bush to live up to the standard TRoosevelt did in sending his sons off to his wars, even though he lost one of them.

I wonder, as big a fan as he is of this movie, how much effect this article will have on him.

The effects of what Kerry did hurt many fine young 'Diggers' who also served with you In Vietnam'
Families here in OZ just as bitterly divided over that war and as I believed it was right my brother wasso bitterly opposed he has never spoken to me since.

This man-I hesitate to use the word is a national disgrace and I now wonder if he was actually in the Pay of the North Vietmamese- these sort of people always receive recompense for their effort .

If the internet had been available in the 1960s this moron would have been shown more fully what a traitorous wretch he was and perhaps thrown into the brig.

And guys in the military - look at this way- when he slimes you- it is a great compliment- because he draws all our attention to what greta people you are and to whom we will ever be in your dept- Every time he attempts his pathetic attacks he covers himself in the vomitus he expels and it covers him only.

He has brought him and his family to world attention and now is an International fool and joke. No Intelligent person or government who espouse real values would hold him any esteem.
It time too to stop calling him Liberal-Liberal he aint- he is communist fellow traveler- card carrying or not.

I often wondered why we never hear of communist parties anymore, but of course they have metamorphed into hybrids Greens. Deoncrats( in Australia and some Independants so they can split the votes and give preferences to the socialist parties who are also under the 'thumbs' of the trade unions. We have a very odd voting system here.

Its time the younger generation were informed or reminded of Teddy's unforgivable behavior at Chappaquiddick and the appalling way he treated Joan his lovely first wife whom he drove into alchoholism.
Why did he ever get re elected and stay in goverment for so long- what is wrong with Mass" voters?

Rock On Bush

Okay, it's not Friday, and hell it ain't even early....and already we have the ruminations of a drinking thread? Skoal!

song_and _dance_(and_prose)_man:

Dost not thou realize that those who doth lurk in the realm of....uh.....lurkdom are a mere modicum of the mob that doth vote? (WTF am I saying?)

And tho' we all partake in the ambrosia that our gracious host Charles offers in this, his fine repast, and though but a handful partake in the fine palaver whilst the vaster numbers are content to mere auscultation, and though in this Large Grand Foyer there are but endless seats...alas very few are warmed by tender bottoms.

Alas, tho' I see the cause just and righteous, I trust not to my neighbor those fact revealed.

GTG (need a drink)

^dy/_dx

The effects of what Kerry did hurt many fine young 'Diggers' who also served with you In Vietnam'
Families here in OZ just as bitterly divided over that war and as I believed it was right my brother wasso bitterly opposed he has never spoken to me since.

This man-I hesitate to use the word is a national disgrace and I now wonder if he was actually in the Pay of the North Vietmamese- these sort of people always receive recompense for their effort .

If the internet had been available in the 1960s this moron would have been shown more fully what a traitorous wretch he was and perhaps thrown into the brig.

And guys in the military - look at this way- when he slimes you- it is a great compliment- because he draws all our attention to what greta people you are and to whom we will ever be in your dept- Every time he attempts his pathetic attacks he covers himself in the vomitus he expels and it covers him only.

He has brought him and his family to world attention and now is an International fool and joke. No Intelligent person or government who espouse real values would hold him any esteem.
It time too to stop calling him Liberal-Liberal he aint- he is communist fellow traveler- card carrying or not.

I often wondered why we never hear of communist parties anymore, but of course they have metamorphed into hybrids Greens. Deoncrats( in Australia and some Independants so they can split the votes and give preferences to the socialist parties who are also under the 'thumbs' of the trade unions. We have a very odd voting system here.

Its time the younger generation were informed or reminded of Teddy's unforgivable behavior at Chappaquiddick and the appalling way he treated Joan his lovely first wife whom he drove into alchoholism.
Why did he ever get re elected and stay in goverment for so long- what is wrong with Mass" voters?

Rock On Bush

OT:

FNC is reporting that the 1st Cav is on the move in Sadr City. No doubt a land grab for our lackey Allawi. ;-}

FNC is reporting that the 1st Cav is on the move in Sadr City.

They're going to get the oil!

I am very heartened that the true image of the Vietnam Veteran is finally being revealed once the muck and the sh*t the Anti-American left and media threw on them is being cleaned away. Make no mistake, there was a link between the Soviet Union and the Anti American elements that hi-jacked the anti-War movement and they went after our people in uniform with a fury, on the street, in the press and on the silver screen. Read B.G. Burkett's(no relation to the docu-whacko) book STOLEN VALOR And as for John Kerry, I am sad to say he got away(along with Cronkite) with costing more American lives in Vietnam by giving aid and comfort to our enemy. He got away with going to Paris as a NAVAL OFFICER and meeting with North Vietnamese and Viet Cong Representatives. Now he's convinced he's going to get away in the next several weeks with trying to convince us Iraq is Vietnam(thats why he had to run out and Slam Interim Iraqi President Alawi today) I am waiting for the day this slimeball receives the consequences that are long, LONG LOOOONG overdue
P.S. he is a traitor and should have been imprisoned, not sent to the senate. All right you sons of bitches, now you know how I feel!!

GREAT LETTER FROM NATIONAL GUARD COLONAL AND FORMER BOMBER PILOT on this link READ EVERYONE

SHOULD PUT THE LID ON KERRY

[Link: www.gopusa.com...]

Bill you came from beautiful parents and Kerry brings contempt down on him every time he opens his mouth-and now you have us all saluting your dad
love to your mum

Is Kerry's sister doing a world tour?

The sister of U.S. presidential candidate John Kerry on Thursday urged the more than 500,000 Americans living in Canada to register to vote in the November election.

#67:

Wonder if she'll go to our military postings overseas and encourage them to vote along with the fine ex-pats in Canuckistan and Uztraya?

TnRighty, I wouldn't put it past her. Maybe she can hand out copies of Michael Moore's "documentary" while she's at it. Is it legal for her to be doing this?

zulubaby

They're going to get the oil!

LOL!!

Hostage's Brother: U.S. Hinders Release

The brother of a British hostage held by terror mastermind Abu Musab al-Zarqawi accused the United States on Thursday of sabotaging efforts to save the captive's life, and the Italian government cast doubt on claims that two kidnapped Italian women have been slain.

I think the families of those who have been kidnapped get so whacked out from the stress of it that they start babbling nonsense. Every time this has happened they've blamed the US instead of the savages. I feel unkind getting annoyed about it but honestly, is there anything that we're not responsible for?

2 Egyptians Kidnapped From Baghdad Office

Gunmen stormed a mobile phone company office in Baghdad and seized two Egyptian employees, government officials said Friday.

The kidnapping happened late Thursday in the upscale Harthiya neighborhood, said Interior Ministry official Col. Adnan Abdel-Rahman. The two engineers were taken away in a black BMW, he said.

#13 Kragar
#21 Fay

I live here in Phoenix and I've never heard of these people. But then I don't hang with anybody like that either. They probably don't visit any of the shooting ranges around here anyway.

Given the date and patch on his shoulder, her dad died at Landing Zone (LZ) X-ray, 14 Nov 1965 in the Ia Drang Valley. This was on of the bloodiest days of the war.

My father was in this unit, but survived the war. My father spend a full 12 months in country as opposed to 4 month cut-and-run Kerry. I have resented Kerry' smears ever since I first heard of him in the 70's.

Maybe she can hand out copies of Michael Moore's "documentary" while she's at it. Is it legal for her to be doing this?

Why the hell not? Remember this classic?
Johnny Depp Speaks!

MBCMA!

I can't even believe a man (a traitor) like Kerry who consorted with the enemy, who turned on his fellow soldiers, who admits to having commited atrocities, and who belonged to a subversive anti-establisment group who had meetings discussing assassinations, is running for the Presidency instead of running from the authorities. It's GOT to be a bad joke. I keep thinking I will wake up and America will be a normal place again where subversives don't run for office, where Presidents don't get caught with their pants around their ankles, where hate-filled ideologues make bogus crap-umentaries and where we can believe what we see on the news and read in the paper. Hell...it hasn't been normal since the 60's. I'm glad I grew up in the 50's.

I have no medical expertise, but looking at Kerry, I see a walking cadaver. He's got that "look" I remember from a very close family member who died of prostate cancer. It's something about the grey pallor of his skin.

As I recall, he is being very secretive about his health records. He's already had at least one bout with prostate cancer.

I think he's not long for this planet. If he were to win, then croak, that would leave us with a President Edwards.

Don't mean to induce nightmares, but.....

John Kerry smeared my cousin:

[Link: www.ranger25.com...]

#78 Trumanite
That causes me to stop and think. Maybe he's been holed up and not talking to reporters because he's been undergoing treatments. But by the same token people undergoing treatments lose their hair.

This was run in the Atlanta Journal Constitution, side-by-side with another letter with a title like 'Geo. W. Bush Killed My Brother!'

It's the AJC's idea of 'balance'...

As some of you have may have encountered my infrequent posts in the past may know, my son is in the Army, currently undergoing Q course to become SF. He was assigned to the 101st during the war to liberate Iraq and he performed heroically and honorably in his role, being awarded a bronze star w/ V device for his actions during the assault on an-Najaf.

He lost some very close friends during and after the major combat operations, including one of his best friends, a certain distinguised Lt. who left behind a wife and a daughter who had not yet been born. We keep his widow and child regularly in our prayers and are comforted by the fact that the Lt. was a Christian and so we trust that he is in the gloried prescence of the LORD.

John F. Kerry figuratively defecated on the honor of the brave men who served and died as heros in Vietnam. It is only icing on the proverbial cake that he continues to defecate on the honor of the good men and women who have died in Iraq, as he flip-flops from stance to stance on that noble effort to liberate an oppressed and tyranized people.

I have no common ground with anyone in this country who can still vote for this man.

May America bless God and may God bless America!

And thank you, LORD, for giving us President George W. Bush when our country needed him. Please bless his efforts on our behalf.

/rant and prayers off

#31 Zulubaby

Amen.

Kerry as Threepio! Hilarious!!!!!!!!!!!

He even speaks foreign languages? But can Kerry speak Bantu?

This story ran opposite another story that basically said "Bush killed my brother."

Look, I don't like Kerry. I also don't like Bush. I don't think either of them are good for America. I just don't like the fact that it seems most people who blog are so pro-Bush, "Bush can't do anything wrong," "let's bash Kerry," etc.

It used to be that for about 3.5 years, no matter who was president, we would work with the man, even if we disagreed with him, then we would work towards either electing the same man again or someone else. We would not besmirch the other's character as I've seen in the past 3 elections. No more.

Also, let me add this: both Bush and Kerry appear to be pro-Israel, but I have never seen any indication that either of them are pro-Jewish. The Republicans have always been the pro-Israel, anti-Jewish party. The Democrats have always been the pro-Jewish, anti-Israel party. Now, I don't know.

When I go to the polls in November, I'll either vote Libertarian or for myself. I'd be a better president anyway, but won't take the job: I'm too honest a person for the post.

#71-Zulubaby... concur yr analysis, and recall reading about an Iranian woman who was startled when the mob below threw the severed head of her beloved son in through the window... Muslims for peace, and all that...

so she grabbed the head without a moment's hesitation and threw it out on them, shouting, "What I have given to God, I do not take back!' The cowards dispersed within moments.

***
On a similar subject, I had a vision this morning of Kerry going to a 'rally' somewhere, and being surrounded by literally dozens of people with pieces of white paper in their hands, moving closer and closer to him, and suddenly he realizes that they're holding and serving subpoenas, so that if even ONE of them touches his body, he'll have to go to Court to show just cause as to why he should NOT be prosecuted for treason, after having provided aid and comfort to America's enemies AND after having met privately with the enemy AND after admitting, under oath, that he committed atrocities and war-crimes.

We, the People... serve him with subpoenas!

There MUST be some way we can make him stand trial for his vile, treasonous acts!

#66 Rose

Thanks for the excellent link! Must reading.

Col. Wambough presents the facts of GWB's TANG service in a way that clearly exposes the lies of Terry McAulliffe, the DNC, and the MSM.

Did anyone else see the latest Kerry ad that demands that GWB sign a Form 180 to release all of his military records? I can't believe the chutzpah here. Is anyone (besides the Swift Vets) holding Kerry's feet to the fire to sign a Form 180? He certainly has a lot more unanswered questions about his military service than Bush does!

#66 Rose

Thanks for that post. Awesome reading!

Yes, like Relish let me thank #66 Rose for her excellent link to Col. Wambough's definitive refutation of all the DNC and MSM smears against President's Bush's National Guard service.

#85 ssfik

Whether Bush is anti-Jewish and pro-Israel or not ( I seriously object to such a formulation ) the critical issue for anyone, Jew, Christian, atheist or pagan is that he stands against Islamic terrorists. His commitment of United States power to your personal survival and the survival of your people must count for something even as you insist on viewing the world through the prism of your ethnicity.

#89 genard
The #85 ssfik is whoring for hits. I looked at it's site. A little over 2000 hits.

#40

N I C E !

Another clear example of why John Kerry is not fit to be President. He has indeed disparaged brave men like Sgt. Jack Gell.

Sgt. Gell died serving his country. According to Kerry, who staged his heroism on 8mm home movies, Sgt. Gell served as a soldier in an Army of psychopathic killers which somehow does no apply to him, Kerry, the messenger, who admitted to raking the enemy with 50 caliber machine gun fire.

Kerry's history and frank exploitation of the situation in Viet Nam, is marked by the deflection of criticism which logically should apply to him being projected onto others.

In Kerry's world, Bush is a draft dodger of sorts but Clinton is a hero. The Viet Nam Vets are all heroes except the Viet Nam Vets who served... except him who wanted to document his 'genuine heroism', which he modestly rejected by publicly hurling his medals away...onto the wall of his office.

He sneers at the Iraqi leader Alawai, because, the Iraqi leader represents hope for the very real PEOPLE of Iraq. He could care less for them and apparently views them as political tools to be exploited in a singularly dirty campaign.

This propaganda is shamelessy orchestrated by the very party that is pawning him (Kerry) off to the foolish people who see nothing sinister about this seriously flawed and power whoring man of dangerous character.

This stuff's political dynamite... now we know the inspiration behind that W.Virginia union goon attacking a toddler. Someone get Michele Malkin on this...

Kerry attacked toddlers of Vietnam vets!

If anybody want to to feel proud about being American, there is a letter posted at Marinecorpsmom.com's web site from an Cobra pilot. His resolution and candor made me misty. A Marine Cobra Pilot Writes

The bottom line is this: Republican or Democrat, approve or disapprove of the decision to go to war, you need to support our efforts here. You cannot both support the troops and protest their mission. Every time the parent of a fallen Marine gets on CNN with a photo, accusing President Bush of murdering his son, the enemy wins a strategic victory. I cannot begin to comprehend the grief he feels at the death of his son, but he dishonors the memory of my brave brother who paid the ultimate price. That Marine volunteered to serve, just like the rest of us. No one here was drafted. I am proud of my service and that of my peers. I am ashamed of that parent's actions, and I pray to God that if I am killed my parents will stand with pride before the cameras and reaffirm their belief that my life and sacrifice mattered; they loved me dearly and they firmly support the
military and its mission in Iraq and Afghanistan. With that statement, they communicate very clearly to our enemies around the world that America is united, that we cannot be intimidated by kidnappings, decapitations and torture, and that we care enough about the Afghani and Iraqi people to give them a chance at democracy and basic human rights.

Do not support those that seek failure for us, or seek to trivialize the sacrifices made here. Do not make the deaths of your countrymen be in vain.

Communicate to your media and elected officials that you are behind us and our mission. Send letters and encouragement to those who are deployed. When you meet a person that serves you, whether in the armed forces, police, or fire department, show them respect. Thank the spouses around you every day, raising children alone, whose loved ones are deployed. Remember not only those that have paid the ultimate price, but the veterans that bear the physical and emotional scars of defending your freedom. At the very least, follow your mother's advice. "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all." Do not give the enemy a foothold in our Nation's public opinion. He rejoices at Fahrenheit 9/11 and applauds every time an American slams our efforts. The military can succeed here so long as American citizens support us wholeheartedly.

Sleep well on this third anniversary of 9/11, America. Rough men are standing ready to do violence on your behalf. Many of your sons and daughters volunteered to stand watch for you. Not just rough men- the infantry, the Marine grunts, the Special Operations Forces- but lots of eighteen and nineteen year old kids, teenagers, who are far away from home, serving as drivers, supply clerks, analysts, and mechanics. They all have stories, families, and dreams. They miss you, love you, and are putting their lives on the line for you. Do not make their time here, their sacrifice, a waste. Support them, and their mission.

Read the whole thing. It's beautiful.

Cool article. Sgt. Jack Gell is a relative by marriage to my family and we hear about him alot. His death positively devastated that family, they loved him so much. It was quite a surprise to see his photo there.

Kerry didn't smear her Dad.

She's smearing Kerry.

Kerry fought just like her Dad did. He came back and told his story. If this lady claims that American troops in Vietnam didn't do at least some of the things Kerry mentioned, she's delusional. Maybe if her Dad had come back from Vietnam, he would have similar stories. Or would have repressed them like most Vietnam vets (and WWII vets for that matter) did. That's what war's about - all wars.

She's dishonoring the memory of her own father with her partisan bilge. Shameful.

And they are pulling out all the stops to try to get Kerry in.
Case 1
Case 2

“Lomax has received numerous reports indicating that individuals are being paid by the application. In addition to illegal compensation, the Election Department is receiving multiple applications where the handwriting appears to be identical, indicating the same individual completed the applications.

Lomax’s office has also received complaints from registered voters claiming they were pressured to register more than once or asked to change the spelling of their name and register again. Others have complained that they received a new voter registration card, yet never completed an application.

Case 3
Case 4
AFL/CIO

Guess they care most if they get caught at it.

More
New York and then some

Funny how that one says that double-registrations in NY are majority Democrat, but they only picked on records they had of Republican double-vote violators.

Still more

Lee hired numerous petition circulators in Colorado, including MaCarthy, and paid them $3 for every Democratic and unaffiliated voter they registered.

Still more
Related note on the bottom for thought:

If a new registrant has not received a voter card by then, she said they should call the elections office to confirm their registration made it there. This is important, she said, because groups don't always follow through in turning in every registration they collect

Still more
Look at June 23 posting
This one has some downright scarey elements.
Makes the last one look like Sunday School
Interesting response

I only want to note to the leftist author of that one that 2 or 3 people on an active fraud campaign can easily swing anywhere from 500-1500 votes.
Or 16,000. How many votes won the last election in LA?
From 2000 WI
2000, happened before, will it again?
Felons illegally voting
More from above
Good article, good links under.

How many illegal votes will it take to give Kerry the election?

creature number 96...

You are despicable, that goes without saying. But if you intellectualize Kerry's blatantly opportunistic behavior by sophomoric equivocations, your mentality is in the gutter with the rest of the morally bankrupt.

Continued OT

Before and L3 or troll jumps on this, let me state for the record that there is NO EVIDENCE AT ALL of any legal and elligible voter in FL or anywhere else being turned away from the polls. There were many (later proven inaccurate) claims of intimidation and disenfranchisement of blacks, etc. Complaints about the purge lists removing valid voters also came up empty. Yes, some voters were improperly removed because of lists designed to remove illegal, moved, and/or dead voters from the registration lists. These accidental removals happened to people of both parties and all elligible races. In EVERY case, the person raising the complaint was able to prove their identity and rights and was allowed to vote. You only heard complaints about it from one side, though.

BTW: NAACP stickers are, among other things, political, and therefore illegal within a certain distance of polling locations in many states.

BTW: If a roadblock is set up to look for the perpetrator of a crime close to a polling location, and you match at least 3 details of the description of the criminal, expect to get stopped on your way to the polls. (Again, in that case, no voters were prevented from voting, some just had to talk to a police officer about a non-voting-related issue before hitting the polls.)

And remember that the polls close at 7:00 local time. If you are in line to vote at 7:00, then you cannot be turned away, but you can be expected to wait in line. Let's please not have any more lawsuits to keep the polls open later because you are losing in the polls and want to get out the vote at 6:45pm.

#90 -

The #85 ssfik is whoring for hits. I looked at it's site. A little over 2000 hits.

You don't know me, so I strongly suggest that until you do, keep your comments to yourself.

#98

You are despicable, that goes without saying. But if you intellectualize Kerry's blatantly opportunistic behavior by sophomoric equivocations, your mentality is in the gutter with the rest of the morally bankrupt.

I am not "creature #96" but you're proving my point:

It used to be that for about 3.5 years, no matter who was president, we would work with the man, even if we disagreed with him, then we would work towards either electing the same man again or someone else. We would not besmirch the other's character as I've seen in the past 3 elections. No more.

#89

Whether Bush is anti-Jewish and pro-Israel or not ( I seriously object to such a formulation ) the critical issue for anyone, Jew, Christian, atheist or pagan is that he stands against Islamic terrorists. His commitment of United States power to your personal survival and the survival of your people must count for something even as you insist on viewing the world through the prism of your ethnicity.

Respectfully, I would tell you that I am a multi-issue person. However, the one question that we all need to answer with regards to this election is this: "Are you better off now than you were four years ago?" For me, the answer is "no." As a veteran. I've seen the degredation of services at the VA as the money for even additional doctors (as I was told by VA personnel) went to the war on terrorism. As a gay man, neither Bush nor Kerry is good for me, but Bush has made it more clear that he would abrogate my rights to be me than Kerry.

'nuff said.

One more thing I forgot: I thought I had served my country to protect, amongst other things, freedom of speech. There are some posters here (listed in my previous post) who feel that should not apply to people who disagree with them. That is not what America is about.

And NO!, I am not a troll. I'm a lurker who contributes sometimes.

Thing # 100

Hard not to wonder what you are. Are you a lonely balding fortysomethinger who thinks his "veteran"status means anything in light of his morally bankrupt spew?

You probably are nothing more than a very unlikeable person to speak with actually.

Gordon:

I probably shouldn't even give your post and claim to being valid by responding to it, but I want to try and get something through your head.

War crimes do happen in war. Sometimes it is only on one side, sometimes it happens on both. There were even a few documented cases of US war crimes in Vietnam, ALL being quickly brought out, brought to justice, and the criminals tried.

After you take out those exceptions to the rule of practically no US war crimes in Vietnam, consider this.

1) Kerry claimed to have committed war crimes. (There may actually be some evidence to this point.) In spite of that claim, no legal actions or investigation took place as he was testifying before the Senate.

2) Kerry claimed to have witnessed war crimes. In spite of witnessing that, he never reported it along the proper chain of command. The reporting of such did bring swift action under military justice. Kerry's claim is inconsistent with the testimony of EVERY MAN that served in his division, including men in his own boat. There is no evidence or corroborating testimony that Kerry actually witnessed others committing war crimes.

3) Kerry claimed to have been told by others of war crimes they committed/witnessed. Again, until it could be used for political gain potentials, Kerry did not report this. Later it was conclusively proven that EVERY account he relied on was fake, none of them being by veterans of the action they claimed to have witnessed the war crimes in, many neither vets nor in any military branch at all.

4) Kerry used his claims to help springboard his political career.

5) Kerry's claims were used by the North Vietnam Communists to as part of tortures designed to try to get PoWs to sign bogus confessions of war crimes. Many PoWs likely died listening to/refusing to admit to Kerry's claims of 'war crimes'. (Torture of PoWs itself being a war crime.)

6) Kerry made sure his claims got broadcast all over the country so that the national populus heard these claims that were later proven, but never reported at the same lofty heights, to be false. He stripped the honor from our returning soldiers and our soldiers in the field in favor of his own political advancement. I have more respect and honor for any soldier dead in Vietnam than I do for Kerry.

7) If his testimony wasn't enough Aid and Comfort for the enemy, he illegally met with representatives of the enemy while still a Naval officer. (That is still legally a hanging offense.) He did this not once, but several times. His anti-war campaign revolved around making sure North Vietnam Communists won against the US and pushing the US to surrender and pull out.

8) Now Kerry runs as both a War Hero and an Anti-War Hero. If the this all doesn't add up to Kerry smearing EVERY BRAVE MAN AND WOMAN WHO SERVED SELFLESSLY IN VIETNAM, NOTHING EVER WILL. Kerry is so low that cockroaches would spit on him in contempt, if they could be bothered to take notice of someone so disgusting.

#96 wrote

She's dishonoring the memory of her own father with her partisan bilge. Shameful.

Troll#96 is shameless. The final stages of syphilitic dementia must've spawned that uninspired impulse to blame the victim. Next, we'll hear some puerile charge that Carol's infant image was doctored into the picture with her dad. Because, as we learned in last week's Kerry-inspired toddler attack, there's absolutely no bottom to the depraved thinking of these Kerry-felching poster children for retroactive abortion.

Now climb back under your rock, you cretinous fecal-cephalic pustule.

If you're not creature #96, why answer for it? Are you it's spokesthing?

Now i understand # 100 sttifig

You interjected that you were gay so my comment to Gorden bothered you because I said he was "morally bankrupt'. So I proved your point about what?

Could the word "Moral" have put you in a tizzy? Could you have projected your reservations about morality onto me...being "intolerant" and judgemental I see.

Based on new comments, I've come to the conclusion that "andrew2" is the troll and that I didn't realize it. I apologise to the rest of you for engaging the troll

John Kerry's opponents are not interested in just defeating him. They are interested in destroying him. On another thread today a poster calls for John Kerry's execution. There were no sarcasm tags.

Either this woman is a tool for those who want to destroy John Kerry, or she is an active participant in the campaign of destruction.

And the Left isn't innocent either. They want to destroy George Bush, not just defeat him.

Politics in this country has gone to the dogs.

108
No, she is no "tool", as you uncharitably denote her- she is a relative of someone who was killied in a war and she is speaking her mind.

You really can't stand the idea of that, can you? Something HAS to be behind the curtain, doesn't it?

I've mentioned before: I know this family- not the immediate ones from the article, but the extended members in my area of NY- they're no "tools", I can assure you. They still, after all this time, mourn the loss of Sgt. Gell. The article is in keeping with everything I've ever heard about him & every sentiment they've expressed long before Kerry ever showed up on the National radar.

FWLIW, some members of this family support Kerry. So "shove it".

Gordon

Whats your point?

#108 Gordon:

John Kerry's opponents are not interested in just defeating him. They are interested in destroying him. On another thread today a poster calls for John Kerry's execution. There were no sarcasm tags.

You do have the balance to indicate that some leftists are equally murderous, and I appreciate your discomfort with the level of discourse.

I do not call for Senator Kerry's death, but it is clear that his actions after the war extended the misery of our POWs and gave the enemy hope to endure on the battlefield and obfuscate at the conference table while he and his comrades turned the American public against our troops.

In Paris he treated with the North Vietnamese and no doubt coordinated his plans with them. It's fair to suspect that his subsequent propaganda before the Senate provided aid and support to the enemy. It was instrumental, along with that from leftist Democrat politicians and journalists, in turning the tide of opinion against the war. It is not a stretch to say that he went beyond legitemate protest and skirted treason.

Perhaps a trial would be in order.