It's not worth my time to read.

Why were you talking to him Charles? Was he interviewing you?

The MMM is a LLL circle-jerk.

NYT registration?

NYeT!

Sorry, I won't read the NYT, they require 3rd party cookies.

Where is evariste with our faux credentials (already endemic inside the newsroom) to access the bile?

Charles, I never yet met a person from the media who didn't get pleasure from sticking to their interviewees.

Their ability to accurately communicate the facts of any story are in direct proportion to whether or not it is in line with their personal beliefs.

Most reporters don't undertand enough about any subject to cover it.

Attention LGF lizards give Mr. Klam some feedback:

09/26/04
07:30 am[Eastern time]
0:30 (est.) LIVE
Call-In
Political Influence of Bloggers
C-SPAN, Washington Journal
Washington, District of Columbia (United States)
ID: 183593 - 2 - 09/26/2004 - 0:30 - No Sale

Klam, Matthew, Contributor, [New York Times] Magazine

Mr. Klam talks about his cover story in the New York Times magazine on bloggers and their growing influence on politics. He will respond to telephone calls, faxes, and electronic mail from viewers.
[Link: inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080...]

#1

I tried to read it, but is it so full of gublegog, as these so called intellectuals like to fill their writtings. That I just gave up trying to understand what he was rambling on about. I hope it wasn't important.

If you like to read it, check the link through Google News.

N.B.: Kos seems to think the NYT is too right wing...

gawd that was awful. Kos and Josh Marshall and Wonkette and that was all the bloggers he could find -- and no mention of Rathergate -- the new big story -- and only from the blogs. The NYT is absolutely incredible.

username: dickhertzalot
pw: lgfrules

login: kettlepouring
pswd: rightwingnut

rightisright

LOL!

More like 'blue balls' NYT teases us with a story about bloggers and walks away, leaving us with nothing but left wing drivel.

Charles -- I am sorry for your 43 minutes. What pain for so little.

OT

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

Terror arrests follow paper tip-off

Four men are being questioned by UK police investigating a Sunday newspaper's claims that a group of businessmen were trying to buy radioactive material.

NYT might be trying to delay its own demise. The public, hearing about these "blogs", will be going to the internet to see for themselves what they are; with articles like this, NYT is trying to channel these new blog readers to their own people.

Fear not. As the intellectual titan Victor Davis Hanson says, they are like French aristocrats hurling epithets at the pitchfork bearing peasants from their carriage on the way to the guillotine.

Tick tick tick.......

At Kos, "Geheimbundler" writes:

So after surveying the fevered, rotten, cruel, superior, babbling, irate, vitriolic, and oversimplifying left-wing blogs, what does Klam have to say about their counterparts on the right?  We're told approvingly that they are the province of "credentialed gentlemen like [Mickey] Kaus, Andrew Sullivan and Glenn Reynolds".  Kaus writes "in a strong, distinctive, original voice".  And, well, that's about it.

New York Times readers, it appears, don't need to know about Jerome Corsi, co-author of the anti-Kerry screed "Unfit For Command", and his rants on FreeRepublic.com against gays, Muslims, and Catholics.  They don't need to know about the racial slurs, death threats and rape fantasies directed against liberals, Democrats, Muslims, foreigners, and journalists on LittleGreenFootballs.com.  

These are two of the most popular, most widely read right-wing weblogs in the country.  But never mind -- Matthew Klam wants to tell you about the raw tuna appetizer at Grover Norquist's fabulous party, and the way the candlelight catches the bubbles in Wonkette's champagne glass.

*cough* DemocraticUnderground *cough*

NYT=CBS
Don't bother.

#16, I bet they were Buddhists or Utilitarians.

And now Mary Mapes has called Charles a "loathsome, bike-riding Lynndie England wannabe"

Beat the update by 6 minutes. Faster than a speeding Charles:)

I read a little bit, but then my gag reflex got to me.

New York Times readers, it appears, don't need to know about Jerome Corsi, co-author of the anti-Kerry screed "Unfit For Command", and his rants on FreeRepublic.com against gays, Muslims, and Catholics. They don't need to know about the racial slurs, death threats and rape fantasies directed against liberals, Democrats, Muslims, foreigners, and journalists on LittleGreenFootballs.com.

I forget, is this transferance or projecting? You know, where they apply their own nature to another?

No way!

I read as much as I could on the google news link. It sounds like a description of a moonbat convention.

Lying around on futons, eating carrots. comments like "I think they are dating now?" After she spilled a drink in his computer and it died?

How self-absorbed can they get?

This story is a horrible example of writing...

Email to:Charles

From:NY Nana

Charles, I just heard on the local news that al-nyt is going to devote the cover and a large article to bloggers and their influence! I will bet that you get a prominent mention! Even al-nyt can't ignore what you and a few bloggers were able to do to cBS..

All the best,

NY Nana

Uh, never mind. :=(

Sorry, that was in response to Rayra's post. Fabulous news. Why am I not surprised that he was a Palestinian?

#24 Rayra

VICTORY SQUEAL

ululululululululululululululu!!!!

Let's face it...we long ago passed the time when we could trust the MSM. The NYT is possibly the worst offender among the papers.

It has gotten so bad that the MSM actually distorts one's view of the world...rags like the NYT are like Pravda.

One action I suggest: contact Starbucks and ask them to at least carry the Wall Street Journal in addition to the NYT in all of their stores, at least for some balance.
I love Starbucks but I've always hated their affiliation with the NYT. We should all let them know what we think.
The page with all of the customer contact info:
[Link: www.starbucks.com...]

C'mon, Charlie. Did you really expect a plug from the gray old newswhore?

With so many angry moonbats scurrying around the Net, it is hardly surprising that some extreme-left blogs experience a surge in traffic (and the "mainstream" liberal media loses its readership:).

death threats and rape fantasies

When did this turn into an Islamic blog?

Charles, I'm not sure why you thought the NYT would be fair.

Check out Mr. Klam's homepage

#36 Tsol

This explains a lot then:

MATTHEW KLAM was named one of the twenty best fiction writers in America under 40 by The New Yorker.

Looks like he is still at it.

This infuriates me beyond. . . damn, I can barely type.

This is a declaration of war by the NYTimes.

Klam is a fiction writer. He got his start writing short stories. Fiction is his business. Now's the time to put an end to his career.

Charles, I know you didn't, but it would have been so great if you had recorded that phone call. I would love to hear what this weasel sounded like making nice to you, and then contrast it with what he wrote.

I'll send a link of this to Instapundit, hopefully he'll link back. I think we have to organize the entire blogosphere about this. What scum. What. . . .aarrrggghhhhh.

Oh,my almost on topic:

[Link: www.llrx.com...]

Commentary: A Librarian Blogger at the DNC
By Jessamyn West

In order to prepare, I started doing some serious research, where serious research means "starting to read political blogs." I knew that I was going to be working next to some political blogging superstars, such as the folks from Daily Kos and Talk Left and Talking Points Memo. I wanted to at least be familiar with their blogs if not versed in their ideologies. The whole idea of blogging a live event was antithetical to my more reflective and relaxed method of blogging where I would ruminate over ideas and stories and then try to summarize and present them -- all while wearing my pajamas.

[Link: librarian.net...]

Best part not included:

I sold my DNC press passes to the highest bidder on Ebay [$15!] and haven't paid much attention to the RNC at all, except to hope my friends there all wound up okay.

All the time they want to take your place
The back stabbers

Because of how little I think of the media I cancelled my subscription to the OC Register which has a decent editorial page yet it is still full of AP, Rueters, NY Times,
etc.

I figure rather than read something that is false or marginalized at best with my coffee to start the day;
I'll start the day with the Bible

Well, I never, who'd have thunk it?

Sorry, Charles, but what did you expect? At least they did not put words in your mouth you never said. Chalk it up to experience.

I think we'll see more of individual bloggers "adopting" individual newspapers and, in some cases, individual columnists. Each paper (and each lucky columnist) gets one or more blogs devoted to fisking it, pointing out its slant, pointing out what it has decided is un-news, pointing out its coincidences in timing. Shortly, people come to understand that what's not on in the paper is as important as what is in it. And they know where to find it. As the blolgosphere matures, I think we'll see more of this kind of specialization.

#15 levi from queens

Charles -- I am sorry for your 43 minutes. What pain for so little.

What was my 8 days at the UN, chopped liver? :-Þ

See anglosaxon510's post #22.

Looks like the best blogs will be getting a lot of publicity soon. So like the libs to use the courts to control free speech.

#24 Rayra

Nakba Akbar!

[firing my AK-47 into air]

Charles, take comfort in the fact you have, in no small part, put the 'major' media 'On Notice'.

The tide is turning. The media hegemony has been usurped.

I think we need someone to Photoshop a picture of Charles w. a Che mustache on a red background.

VIVA LA BLOGGAGE

To clarify: I never thought the New York Times would be fair. But I didn't expect them to try to make me disappear.

"And in a 10-page article, covers only the left wing blogs, including the worst, most virulent centers of lunacy.
In glowing terms."

So why should TODAY be different than any other day in the life of a leftwing rag like the New Yuk Times?? A snake by any other name is still a snake.

#26 They don't need to know about the racial slurs, death threats and rape fantasies directed against liberals, Democrats, Muslims, foreigners, and journalists on LittleGreenFootballs.com.

I'm foreign born. Does this mean you have rape fantasies about... moi? Oh, heavens. [primping in front of mirror.]

Okay -- you bring the handcuffs, right?

//sarcasm off

Seriously -- I've NEVER heard hatred of any race, nationality or political affiliation in this blog. I've heard disapproval and serious tweaking of stupid people of other nationalities, and other party affiliations and... well, Jimmy Carter. I've heard hatred of the hate-filled Muslim credo (which is not the same as hating Muslims themselves, only splodeydopes who swallowed ol' Mo's story hook line and sink AND want to kill other people because of it). As for murder threats to JOURNALISTS? When?

#51 Portia

I've NEVER heard hatred of any race, nationality or political affiliation in this blog.

bigel?

OT, but hi-larious. Map of Blogland.

[Link: acepilots.com...]

Of course they want us to disappear. Monopolies don't take kindly to competition. True believers don't care much for heretics.

Cannot be bothered to waste time reading him however this is the best free advertising for LGFyou can get- five minutes on 'Liberal''Socialist' sites with the click of a mouse newcomers will soon sort chalk from s- uhm cheese

More conversions in an hour than to Islam IN A HUNDRED YEARS-
we CAN read and disseminate the 'UNHOLY KORAN' ---MAY THE CURSES OF THE TORMENTED IT HAS SLAIN RAIN DOWN ON THIS CORRUPT HOUSE.

MORE GREAT SITES
[Link: WWW.currencylad.com-ozzie...] site. and from there check out our GREAT ANDREW BOLT and Tim Blair
GO GO GEORGE BUSH
and keep on whining Kerry we lurve it sooh much you is the greatest whino Ise knowd

Matthew Klam, with whom I spoke on the phone for 43 minutes of my life that I’ll never get back.....

Great intro. What a waste.

#24, Rayra:

Reported earlier in the week on LGF, and would probably have gotten a thread if Ra^therGate weren't using up so many slots (not that I'm complaining).

Their agenda IS to make people like you disappear.
LLLs everywhere. Their own personal version of Sharia.

It wasn't a waste of time though Charles - it was a complete reaffirmation of what you are doing right.

Did you catch this line in the story?

In Boston, I went with Moulitsas to a really swanky party given in honor of the bloggers at a Middle Eastern restaurant on the Charles River.

or this:

For the last few weeks, Moulitsas had been conversing on at least two different blogs with Jim Bonham, the executive director of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. The D.C.C.C. is the arm of the Democratic Party that provides money, expert advice and technical support to candidates in close House races[...]
Nicco Mele, the official liaison between the D.C.C.C. and the blogosphere, just stood back, horrified.[...]
the D.C.C.C. had paid for the very top-drawer blogger bash where the fight broke out

Or:

his phone rang. It was Samara Barend, a young community activist running for Congress in upstate New York. When Moulitsas hung up, he told me she was calling ''either to get my endorsement or to get me to write about the race.''
Then we headed to the Westin to meet another Congressional candidate hoping for some of the same attention from Daily Kos

#52 Reaganite

oooooo... I see your bigel and I raise you a nodrog.

Seriously -- yeah, okay, we have bigel, but the majority of the people here pile on him in what seemed to me (when I first started paying attention) a frightening way. And then, you know -- twirls hair around finger -- with all of you on top of him, he's really hard to hear. Just this mumble from underneath the pile up. bzzz, bzzzz bigel solution, bzzzzzzz.

The truth is I tend to tune him out and therefore forgot him. He can hardly be confused with even a predominant -- much less a normal -- viewpoint on this blog. We might as well say nodrog is the "average" LGF post. (Though sometimes bigel is almost human. Or perhaps I'm just really mad. nodrog, otoh is just annoying.)

The NYT knows their audience. They don't want to hear about the anti-idiotarians. They don't want their stupid, moronic, vile leftist worldview challenged. They want to hear about how the "grassroots" supports their stupidity, how pure, brave leftwing heroes of the proletariat are out there, challenging the evil corporofascist consent-manufacturing media machine.

So that's what the New York Slimes fed them.

And people wonder why 55% of Americans distrust the "mainstream" scumedia.

#60 Portia

He can hardly be confused with even a predominant -- much less a normal -- viewpoint on this blog. We might as well say nodrog is the "average" LGF post.

LOL, can I use that?

Encourage everyone you know to ignore the NYT and certainly not to give them any money in the way of a purchase or subscription. Then encourage them to read the conservative blogs.

Word of mouth works wonders in business, and ultimately the NYT is a business...word of mouth from enough disenchanted consumers can bring them down...it's worked with many companies bigger than the NYT...

Let's face it...subscription numbers for the NYT are already in decline...the parent company is reporting lackluster earnings...

it's not they are trying to make you disappear, it's just old habits are hard to break. like only telling half the
story and lying.

as usual the MSM is pursuing their Stalinist agenda of making their enemy(us) disappear, as though we NEVER EXISTED. well, sorry this is the:

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

and we will not tolerate Stalinism in our midst!!!!

To rein in the media, eventually we will have to talk to the real bossed -- the advertisers.

Advertisers are the people who ultimately bankroll the NYT and the rest. If they start complaining because they get a bad name from the rubbish printed by the journalists, the MSM will start to listen.

Klam probably talked to several non-liberal bloggers but since they are even-tempered and rational, and rely on facts instead of emotions, he didn't have any material that fit his worldview, so he left them out.

Now if Charles had ranted and raved and hated and put forth conspiracy theories, he would have gotten the cover of the magazine.

Their glaring ommission only proves:

1. The consistent bias

2. That they consider the "unamed" bloggers more competition than the majority they did use.

Look at it this way: it reflects negatively on them because by their own actions they give MORE credibility to those claiming they are biased!

They simply have reinforced what ALL of you have been saying.

If the NYT wants to redefine itself as a liberal periodical, like the Village Voice, then fine.

What I have a problem with is how the NYT sets so much of the agenda for so many other media outlets.

Just like we took the fight to the CBS Affiliates, once we realized they were the ones to apply the real pressure to CBS News, we need to take the fight against the NYT to those outlets that use and cite the NYT as their source. We can also contact their advertisers as well. That is the only way to have any leverage with the NYT.

#49 Charles 9/25/2004 08:21PM PST

Hmm, well I can say that the American public knows how biased the MSM is now. It was always mumbled about, behind the scenes, but Dan Rather blew it right into everyone's living rooms at prime time.

Every person I ask in casual conversation says they are fed up with it. I know that is about as legit as the election polls are right now, but I was still surprised by the immediate reactions I received. A lot of people know that the NYT, WPO, and LAT are the most liberally biased papers out there. Do you want to be written about by these people? Personally, I would rather have someone that is considered more "neutral" provide an objective analysis of the conservative bloggers. People are the radio call-in programs are beginning to laugh openly at what the liberal writers call "journalism". They are becoming tabloids.

Patience. As with any task, the best way is to stay slow and steady on the course. A lot of people now read the conservative blogs and more have become curious. The conservative blogs have already left their first imprint on the MSM. It will not be the last.

<Bugs>Of course you realize this means war.</Bugs>

Seriously, though. It's time for the blogosphere to launch an all-out Fisking War against the Times until their reputation is utterly destroyed. (Amongst the general public, I mean. They have no reputation left here.) If the war takes years, so be it. There's a Rathergate waiting to be discovered somewhere in almost every edition of that newspaper. All we have to do it find them, and nail them on every last one. Over. And over. And over.

Klam himself can merely be dismissed as the literary pulp-generating socialite wannabe that he is.

we have a portrait of Mattie:

[Link: www.matthewklam.com...]

...don't disappoint me.

#62 Rayra

btw, are you a rich heiress?

Probably. Eventually. However I come from a notoriously long-lived family, so the inheritance will pay for my nursing home expenses. I'm trying to get rich on my own before I inherit.

Sorry.

Oh -- and I don't look a thing like Teresa. (I don't want to ruin anyone's rape fantasies here.)

[I have to say it's hard to have fantasies of being raped by lizardoids. I tried, in the last few minutes -- but when the great green ones come through my door, we start talking and then I open a bottle of wine, and then more lizards come in and next thing you know we're DISCUSSING things and it's fascinating, and I'm sitting there in my frilly nighty, getting cold. And then my husband comes in and asks if I live at LGF these days and why am I hissing at him in the night? Sigh.]

I agree with EvilPundit...the only way to get an outlet like the NYT to pay attention is to hit them in the pocketbook.

Contact the advertisers, as well as those other media outlets that use the NYT stories.

#72 The Lone Platypus:

I agree the MSM has to be destroyed. Utterly and totally. I want every single one of them out of work and never employed in journalism again. They can go work at Wal Mart. That's real HONEST work.

#68 Security Mom:

Klam probably talked to several non-liberal bloggers but since they are even-tempered and rational, and rely on facts instead of emotions, he didn't have any material that fit his worldview, so he left them out.

It appears the dealbreaker for Klam was that the non-liberal bloggers didn't throw any swanky parties were he could try to get laid network with the Cool People while "working on his article".

A couple of seconds later, the item appeared on Daily Kos, and his hundreds of thousands of readers began to take note, many of them posting their own fevered thoughts in response.

Boy, you can say that again.

#43,

Well, there once was SmarterTimes.com... now it's the New York Sun

#70 Another Thought:

What I have a problem with is how the NYT sets so much of the agenda for so many other media outlets.

If I ever get to run a newsroom or a single news program (and believe me, I'm trying to get there), my very first edict will be that all subscriptions to The New York Times will be canceled, and nytimes.com will be blocked at work. And it has nothing to do with their bias; it's about just what you said: the fact that the rest of the MSM is so lazy that they can't decide for themselves what's "newsworthy" until The New York Times tells them.

To hell with that.

#68 Security Mom
Please. No makeover for Charles.

Did you know that they sell sharpies at most drug, grocery, and office supply stores?

further appropriate 60's R&B background music:

The Snake
Johnny Rivers

On her way to work one morning
Down a path alongside the lake
A tender-hearted woman
Saw a poor half-frozen snake
His pretty coloured skin had been
All frosted with the dew
"Oh faith" she cried. "I'll take you in
And I'll take care of you."

"Take me in, tender woman.
Take me in, for Heaven's sake.
Take me in, tender woman,"
Sighed the snake

Now she wrapped him up all cosy
In a comforter of silk
And then laid him by the fireside
With some honey and some milk
She hurried home from work that night
As soon as she arrived
She found that pretty snake she'd
Taken in had been revived

"Take me in, tender woman.
Take me in, for Heaven's sake.
Take me in, tender woman."
Sighed the snake

She clutched him to her bosom
"You're so beautiful," she cried
"But if I hadn't brought you in
By now you might have died."
Well she stroked his pretty skin again
And then kissed and held him tight
But, instead of saying "Thanks"
The snake gave her a vicious bite

"Take me in, tender woman.
Take me in, for Heaven's sake.
Take me in, tender woman."
Sighed the snake

"I saved you," cried that woman
"And you've bitten me, but why?
You know your bite is poisonous
And now I'm gonna die!"
"Hah, shut up, silly woman,"
Said that reptile, with a grin
"You knew darned well I was a snake,
Before you took me in."

"Aw, take me in, tender woman.
Take me in, for Heaven's sake.
Take me in, tender woman."
Sighed the snake
Sighed the snake
Sighed the snake
"Aw, you better take me in, tender woman,"
Sighed the snake

Charles,

Call O'Reilly with the story. I know he would love to have you on and besides, it would be great exposure.

The NYT's lies about EVERYTHING so why would you expect anything else?

Lone Platypus: You are so correct when you state that the MSM is plain lazy. Many people would be shocked if their was ever some documentary done on how the MSM really functions. Let's face it...in many cases you get the same news no matter what, and that's because for most MSM outlets they get their stories from a few outlets like the NYT and the AP.

Perhaps you can do a documentary piece on how the MSM really works...we conservatives need more people on our side doing what Michael Moore does for the left, although without the Moore lies...

#78 Manco_Dollars 9/25/2004 08:41PM PST

They do not need to be "destroyed". That is silly. They need to get back to being objective and report only the news. Editorials should only be found on the editorial pages instead of mixed in with the news on the front page.

For example, I enjoy watching PBS Frontline. It is not completely unbiased, but I do see an attempt to have the viewer make his/her own interpretations with many viewpoints being presented. Again, it is not perfect but is a step in the right direction. The American public is not as stupid as the MSM thinks.

Bubbaman: I like your idea...Charles should contact outlets like O'Reilly and Hannity...he could probably get on and make his case...

#49 Charles

Consider it a compliment that they didn't mention you.

How much they must envy you for what you have accomplished in your Giorgio Armani pajamas 3-piece suit...they are really going down the tubes. We cancelled our subscription over 5 years ago, and have never bought it on the newsstand, either. You do more in 1 day to bring the real news to people than they do in a month!

In our apartment building, my husband nas not seen 1 copy of it deleivered on our floor in ages...we get the NY Post, NYDaily News and the local newspaper delivered every morning.

NY has had a strong 'Do Not Call' list for a few years, and when they called us just after it became the law, we told them that if they ever called here again we would report the call to the state...they would be fined. Happily, we have never been bothered again..BTW, what my husband told the telemarketer could have possibly fried her headphone.

Fondu: I think what we can all agree upon is that the MSM needs to be either replaced or forced to reform (it won't do it on its own)...either way we need to get a media that attempts to be fair and objective...

So whether we "destroy" the MSM and replace them with something else or whether the existing MSM outlets as we know them morph into what they should be, the objective is the same...

Awww, I missed another great post by [Deleted]...

Charles, you don't fit with their agenda. Consider it a compliment.

Hm. The old saying that freedom of the press belongs to whoever owns the press is true. The cost of ownership has gotten a drastically lower lately.

Dar ul Harb, LOL! I was about to post almost that same sentence.

#94 Another Thought 9/25/2004 08:54PM PST

Heh, sorry.. my optimism was shining through (grin). Yea, we have already seen how stubborn CBS can be. Blogs were just the spark and the flames had to be fanned by Fox, ABC, and radio programs before CBS moved. I would rather see more news sources than less and all of them striving to be more objective. Maybe it is just a pipedream.

#76 Another Thought:

Contact the advertisers, as well as those other media outlets that use the NYT stories.

Unfortunately, contacting the advertisers isn't going to be particularly effective, because in New York the Times' "sort of advertiser" doesn't really have anywhere else to go to reach that demographic (that is, snots). Tiffany and Lord & Taylor aren't going to start advertising in the Daily News.

(There is an old anecdote, which is unquestionably apocryphal though many liberal MSM members will swear up and down that it's true, often to the point of sputtering anger if you challenge them on it: One day many years ago, Rupert Murdoch was trying like hell to persuade the head of Bloomingdale's to switch some advertising from The Times to the New York Post. Finally, the Bloomie's guy says, "Rupert, you don't understand. Your readers are our shoplifters!" In reality, the Post's demographics are in a number of ways equal to or better than that of The Times. But it's all about perception.)

Perhaps one day the New York Sun will grow and eventually be able to serve as a direct broadsheet threat to The Times, but if that happens (which isn't particularly likely), we're talking a decade or two down the line.

Our only hope is to shame The Times into becoming a truly objective newspaper (to the extent that any news organization can be truly unbiased, anyway), or at least shame them into openly operating as a liberal paper.

#90 Another thought:

Perhaps you can do a documentary piece on how the MSM really works...

Maybe someday, when I can afford the camcorder.....

I must smile. I got the link via AllahPundit (PBUH) almost immediately, then quickly wrote my letter of mutual disdain to the NYT, and I see Charles has already created a new thread with 36 posts and is moving on. The doddering fools at the NYT don't yet comprehend what they are up against.

Feel free to write to
public@nytimes.com (Okrent's gang)
executive-editor@nytimes.com

If my humble letter is of any use, then by all means:

This article is an utter disgrace. Just when I think the NYT must slow its slide into biased yellow journalism, you prove me wrong. The writer could not have produced a more unbalanced view of the blogosphere. One can only assume this is intentional. You dwelt on the most left-wing sites missing only democratsunderground, and missed the center, the technical, and the right almost entirely. Mentioning Glenn Reynolds does not balance this out. On a pie graph you colored a tiny sliver of what is available.

Missing sites like AllahPundit, BelmontClub, CommandPost, Lileks, LGF, Michael Totten, Roger L Simon, to name less than half of the heavy hitters, is a stupendous error in reporting. These sites will bury you. Collectively they have a larger readership than you. Your arrogance is exceeded only by your foolishness.

What is truly amazing is that you expended 10 pages on this 'piece'.

How sad.

They're (MSM) getting desperate. The fact that Bush is ahead, Rathergate, they're lost monopoly, it's all making them even more blatant and stubborn in their bias.

And, aside from LGF, how can they not mention Allahpundit? Everyone should go read Allahpundit. Especially when he is acting like Allah.

(Note: I do not know Allah and he has nothing to do with this promotion of his site.)

You might ask... "Why would the very blogs that broke the biggest story of the election and exposed one of the Big Three NewsMedia networks be ignored while they feature the Leftist shills?"

Well I have it on reliable anonymous sources that Matthew Klam got his start in knee-pads in the CBS mens room. Until he proves that isn't true or is at least willing to answer for it it must be true.

I do not know Allah...

Infidel !

May a thousand rabid camel fleas plague your backside for eternity. (hee hee)

#106 Dar ul Harb

LOL :-) He would smite me I'm sure, except that he runs a blog and so probably never has time. Ha ha.

The mainstream media’s shameful, arrogant bias,

This is because the mainstream media are all egomaniac, sob's......who have never really been challenged very much before now. They thought think mainstream readership/listenership are idiot aimless robots who just swallow constant lies, bias and blatant stretching of truth, go about their business and take some more.

That was of course until the Vietnam, Kerry, CBS Dan Rather, DNC house of cards became seriously challenged. It was blogs who helped spread the word so the house of cards would implode. The rub however is the word was spread with factual information unlike the cesspool of lies mainstream media spews.

LGF is truly the gold standard of factual level headed information. There are other great blogs as well and this mainstream media hate with a passion. For now they are truly threatened by the reality that what they write and what they report is put under a verifiable litmus test and passed through cyberspace. But like a kid caught with their hand in the candy dish they will fight even that reality buy slandering bloggers integrity.

My guess is Matthew Klam interviewed you Charles, just to say in the event he was challenged that he interviewed a right wing blog. Yet in the end, the interview meant nothing simply because Klam like others of his ilk are in no way going to give you the least bit of credit. Klam and the rest of mainstream media have no conscience. The bad reputation mainstream media have justifiably earned is beginning to register with them even though they would die rather than admit it. And this they will fight with more lies of course.

And when it comes to Israel, mainstream media and deceit go hand in hand. For this the media refuses to change and when challenged they bark back with all kinds of rationalizations and catch phrases. And while Camera (another gold standard) and Honestreporting and other organizations spend night and day fracturing the lies spewed by the media, we see even that has made little impact if any on their deplorable lies and bias.

They have near brought Israel down and are trying their damnest to bring down GWB, the war in Irag, the war on islamic fanaticism terror, Swiftboat vets and now blogs. And the bastards will do it at any and all costs.

I'm NOT PARANOID!
I'm NOT!
But if you think the MSM is going to let this whole Internet/Blog thing go unchallenged, you are wrong.
We (I shamelessly incude my non-blogging rarely-posting self in "we") have been far too effective in the past three weeks. The Gatekeeping Function must be protected at all costs! The (non-left) Bogosphere will be attacked, will be stifled, probably on grounds of hate speech or a revival of so-called "equal time".
Independent-minded bloggers and their sympathizers need to plan NOW to counteract this. No matter the outcome of the election, the attempted repression will come. We need to have a "worst-case scenario" plan in place. Hopefully we'll never need it, but as much as I am gratified at the successes of the blogosphere in fact-checking the MSM, I'm worried as well, because the MSM and it's allies are still very powerful. Honest to G_d, I'm not a conspiracy, "black helicopter" kind of guy, but they are going to come after LGF, Insta, Allah, FREEP, Roger Simon, INDC, Powerline, Smash and the rest.
Hopefully we'll see some pub-based meetings in LA, Knoxville, Twin Cities, and other nodes of the US/samizdat.
Hopin' & prayin' .. (& votin')
LiqLurk

106 Dar-ul-Harb

I do not know Allah...

Infidel !

You hold Cordy down. I start up Moonlighting.

Who gives a rat's ass what the Times says? They're the reason for our success. I'm really impressed they can still work up this kind of disdain when their ass is hemorrhaging....

God, what a tool this guy Klam is

The Dean phenomenon drew so many new people to the grass roots (or ''netroots,'' as the Dean bloggers used to call them) of presidential politics that a kind of fragmentation occurred in what had been, until then, a blog culture dominated by credentialed gentlemen like Kaus, Andrew Sullivan and Glenn Reynolds, a conservative law professor whose blog, Instapundit, is read faithfully at the White House.

In depth (2-2.5 pages each) for Wonkette, Josh Marshall, and Markos Moulitsas and one fragment of a run on sentence for Kaus Reynolds and Sullivan.

#111,

Y'know, I hear they used "Somebody's Watching Me" at Abu Ghraib...

#113 jdwill:

In depth (2-2.5 pages each) for Wonkette, Josh Marshall, and Markos Moulitsas and one fragment of a run on sentence for Kaus Reynolds and Sullivan.

Also, one sentence fragment for all of Rathergate. Maybe one full sentence, depending on how you want to count it. And I got ten bucks that says that was tossed in by an editor to, as the fraudulent memos put it, "CYA."

The reason this little bourgeois fop didn't write about any of the "conservative" bloggers is (well, aside from the obvious ideological disagreement) that they aren't "fabulous" enough. The New York Times mentality shoots a load in their Prada slacks just thinking about someone like "edgy" fabulous Wonkette lolling about at a party sipping French champagne. Or Markos M Zuniga (who is strangely captioned Markos Moulitsas in the photo accompanying the article- is Zuniga his married name?) who is the perfect hero, fighting for the proletariat and being all ethnic-sounding at the same time- it makes the DIVERSITY (read: phony PC condescension) meter go off the charts. The average highly educated neurotic post-modern Manhattanite who writes turgid prose for the New York Times is not interested in ideas, or fairness, or journalism. They are interested in going to the right parties, the right bars and fucking the right people. And by right I certainly don't mean right wing.

Trust me on this. I live in New York and work in a field that is completely controlled and populated by this decadent upper class. Someone earlier made the comparison between these people and the aristocracy in France at the time of the Revolution and I think that is spot on. Eating fois gras off of Sèvres plates, absolutely clueless that the peasants are at the gates. Let them eat cake indeed.

"Nobody but Atrios, Kos, Wonkette, and the other New York Times-approved left-wing drones."

Wonkette is a left wing drone?

I thought she was more of a centrist who just made fun of everybody?

Hmm keep in mind that not all of the MSM failed to report the memogate stuff correctly the first time around. I do admit that there were ver few in number that did it, and I still wonder whether it was done in order to report things correctly the first time or was done in order to knock their competition down a few notches.

#113 jdwill 9/25/2004 09:22PM PST

That quote is pretty bad. I really hope some of the "middle of the stream" and "conservative" media outlets quickly put a big spotlight on the NYT. It should of been written as:

"a blog culture of liberal political viewpoints such as ... and conservative political viewpoints such as .... "

Well, you get the idea.

If Kerry wins the election look for draconian provisions limiting freedom of expression on the internet. The UN, CBS, NYT, and Kerry would like to see some censorship, pronto. When we watch them watching us it really gets on their nerves. What a bunch of dangerously elitist totalitarian snobs.

Don't worry about the NYT. That will be a local newspaper soon enough. Maureen Dowd is so bad she could not write for most high school newspapers.

I haven't read all before, but I promise if normal people read KOS and INDIE they will realize that the Democratic party has wondered into the fever-swamp.

I watched Klam interviewed on CNN about his article, and not a single question was raised about not mentioning a single Republican blog. He mentioned the daily KOS - no questions by the CNN reporter, no reference to the Iraq "screw-them" remarks.
What a shame, the MSM is walking in lock-step with the Kerry minions.

#103 jdwill

Marvelous ...simply marvelous ... thanks

They're also talking about this over here.

I think that this is a very good sign insofar as it highlights the maniacs very well. When a level headed individual heads over to Kos etc. and sees them denigrate the troops and doing their wild conspiracy thing when they wind up here it will be a beacon of sanity. Could do with some more LGF exposure though, maybe a feature film

J.D., I love that Ace of Spades guy, whoever he is. I only recently heard of that blog. Maybe it was you who'd linked to it?

How funny is this?

The Saudi-Oliver Willis Connection

LOL! He keeps hammering Willis and G-d knows he deserves it.

#61 Pickle . . .

The NYT knows their audience. They don't want to hear about the anti-idiotarians. They don't want their stupid, moronic, vile leftist worldview challenged. They want to hear about how the "grassroots" supports their

What you said. A lot of people have a major investment in the LLL mindset. They cannot change.

Great web site below- brings a smile to your face when it al gets tooooo much
very funny article on Dan Rather in Texas style-scroll down a bit to hit it
[Link: bussorah.blogspot.com...]

#107 Fondu
A better curse would be

"May the fleas of a thousand Arafats infest your asscrack."

Now that is truly frightening.

No, then I will be the target of jokes involving "Arafat Static Cling". That's just not right. :(

Fondu
Yeah I see you point.

What an unvarnished piece of crap.

It would not be out of place in People.

Once again, the MSM shows why its days are numbered!

zulubaby
No, it was not I who linked it before. But I'm glad to see this is getting some attention around and about.

Speaking as a copy editor, (though not for a newspaper) it occurs to me that the blame might not lie entirely with Mr. Klam. Editors can modify a story to pretty much any degree they like, and the fact that Mr. Klam spent so much time talking to Charles indicates to me that he didn't think it was a waste of time...in other words, he might have included more coverage of the right-wing blogosphere in the story he submitted, only to have those references removed by an editor. Klam would have no control of this.

Obviously we'd know more if we could have heard the conversation with Charles; i.e., was he asking pertinant questions, or just trying to goad Charles into saying something inflammatory. But in any case, the editor at the NYT can be faulted for not making sure the story had better balance.

I picked up Klam's email address from his personal website. I've already emailed him and let him know what I think.

This arse thinks he can get away with this shite?!

I don't think so.

I say flood his email box for starters.

MattKlam@aol.com

*

Nobody but Atrios, Josh Marshall, Daily Kos, Wonkette, and the other New York Times-approved left-wing drones.

So he managed to focus on a lot of people who totally missed the boat on Rathergate. Who ran with the rabbits, rather than hunting with the hounds.

So what are his readers going to make of this? They're expecting to meet the bloggers who ate CBS for lunch, and instead they're introduced to a bunch of people who still don't know what the hell happened.

Is this what they did in the Soviet Union to make people "disappear"?

Just don't even acknowledge that they exist?

It's absurd to think that the NYT thinks that it can just get away with their never ending bias. Their agenda is much more dangerous and sinister.

Remember, it is Kofi who wants to control the Internet through the UN.

Look at the picture that accompanies the NYTMag article to see the wonderful multicultural diversity of the left-wing bloggers covering the convention. Starting at the upper right edge of the picture:

White guy
White guy
White guy
White guy
White guy
White guy
White guy
White guy
White androgynous person
White guy
White guy
White guy

#49 Charles
To clarify: I never thought the New York Times would be fair. But I didn't expect them to try to make me disappear.

Charles, don't be downhearted or surprised. I've had a lot of experience with these interviews and you can always expect the writers and/or editors to do one of two things:

a. Take some absurd inarticulate quote out of context to make you look bad; or b. cut you out of the article entirely. (Unless, of course, the article is entirely about you.) I was interviewed by Newsweek for 90 minutes: didn't appear in the article. Camera crew filmed me for a documentary: on the cutting room floor. Producer called and arranged for me to be on [unnamed television show]: canceled at the last minute in favor of the person I had put them in touch with. Yomiuri Shimbun made up a quote by me that I never even said. And a Philippine paper concocted an entire interview with me out of thin air! (These were all concerning other aspects of my life -- nothing to do with "zombie.")

Never ever trust a reporter; and never expect any promised good publicity. (Just imagine what all those people who grinned and proudly held up their signs for zombie's camera think about me after they were demonized across the Web! Payback time.)

Such wonderful people...I almost wonder if they have a 'purification' editor that cleans out anything that could be considered too far from the 'left' path.

The Blogosphere only exists in the context of the left. Even the other networks mentioned the right, people who pay attention to this will see the bias and question but I don't hold much faith in it either way. After all...sitting around and reading the NYT still looks 'trendy'.

Ain't it amazing? And to think that we believed these shysters just three years ago!

Scary, isn't it?

Someone, anyone: I have stunning pix of the WTC taken from the roof of the Banker's Trust building (now Deutsche Bank), on Sept. 13, 2001. Forty floors up. The complete overview.

I want to post them to a blog so people can see why we fight. I can email them. Folks need to see this--it's the view they were terrified we'd see, the one they didn't let the newsfolks show.

It's the full scale of the horror.

#20

They don't need to know about the racial slurs, death threats and rape fantasies directed against liberals, Democrats, Muslims, foreigners, and journalists on LittleGreenFootballs.com

Hey! Did I miss the party?

Just to make everyone's teeth grind even harder at how completely clueless and/or intentionally biased The New York Times is about the bloggers, check out the magazine cover!

New York Times Magazine Cover - Sunday, September 26, 2004

Hey, at least it's not a picture of Kos, "dudes!"

430,000 page views per week doesn't sound like much to me. Something tells me the Times knows it isn't.

Dear NYT:

Thank you so much for your very interesting and informative article on blogs. I just love the Daily Kos and Josh Marshall. I pray every night to Atrios for the defeat of the unholy Shrub and his Repug minions, and I fell asleep dreaming of the Wonkette with a pillow between my legs. With the coming demise of CBS, you are the main bulwark against the rise of fascism in America. I don't have any evidence, but we both know what I mean (wink wink.)

Thanks, pdq332

Lady of Shalott (ylreveb),

Hey! Did I miss the party?

LGF's always a party.

Just sometimes the music's a little louder :-)

#138 zombie:

Charles, don't be downhearted or surprised. I've had a lot of experience with these interviews and you can always expect the writers and/or editors to do one of two things:

a. Take some absurd inarticulate quote out of context to make you look bad; or b. cut you out of the article entirely.

Always, always, always tape your interviews. If you are misquoted, file a complaint with the news organization and post an MP3 of the interview on your blog. Then tell everyone to link to it.

If your interviewer is in a state where you cannot legally tape without his/her permission, and he/she refuses to give it, don't grant the interview. And post on your blog the fact that the reporter had something to hide.

I was just at Allah's blog reading about this piece. But I don't see how you guys, nor anyone could be surprised.

It can't be understated:

LGF, PowerLine, allah, etc. are a THREAT to their survival.

Do you know how many pieces the MSM probably alters, slants, morphs to their desires? Do we really think that even though he's been caught redhanded, this is the first time Danny Boy's put his hand in the cookie jar?

Moulitsas, Wonkette, Atrios & Co. are the lapdog kiss-asses of the MSM. They & the MSM all have the same point of view, they all hate anything with an (R) next to it's name and all are willing to bypass TRUTH and SUBSTANCE to get their man into the Oval Office. I'm more surprised at the fact that Klam even called you, than I am at the lack of mention.

Funny how Markos Zunazi's most infamous comment is actually better suited to the demise of the MSM and the Radical Liberal ideology he seems to hold so dear:

"I feel nothing over the death of mercenaries. Screw them."

Charles,

Of course one wouldn't think a journo will call him only to ignore him, but on reflection, one fact is clear: You and the other ignored bloggers are a danger to the MM in its current form, and especially so to the NYT, as you shine a light on so many of it's blunders and biases.

Why, then, would this fiction writer invest 43 minutes in talking with someone he wasn't intending to write about. Probably doing some recon work, to see what he can get away with.

I believe that everything that comes out of the media in totalitarian regime should be considered enemy propaganda. One should ask oneself what is the regime in the NYT. Seems it's the regime of those who would bury books they don't like and stifle opinions they don't like. Still, they are not as blatant about it as the PA...

Donald Luskin of The Conspiracy to Keep You Poor and Stupid on the Klam article:

Several readers have written in to note an article about blogging in the Sunady [sic] New York Times Magazine. I really learned something from reading this article. I never knew before that blogging is entirely a left-wing phenomenon. Until now, I never realized that I don't exist.

#64 Another Thought

Encourage everyone you know to ignore the NYT and certainly not to give them any money in the way of a purchase or subscription. Then encourage them to read the conservative blogs.[...]

Let's face it...subscription numbers for the NYT are already in decline...the parent company is reporting lackluster earnings...

I doubt anyone here subscribed to the New Pradva Times anyway. I agree that one should vote with dollars for the coverage they want to see more of.

Subscribe to the WSJ. (Their earnings picture is poor right now.) A conservative newspaper with an upswing in subscribers will get the attention of the leftist papers' owners.

rape fantasies directed against liberals

I don't know where Daily Kos came up with this, but the only rape fantasies I'm aware of are Zuniga's sick plans to screw Kerry, Daschle, and Ralph Nader.

Klam doesnt realize what he has gotten himself into. He's goin to get slammed for this piece.

10 Dar ul Harb
N.B.: Kos seems to think the NYT is too right wing...

BWUAHAAHAAAAHAAAA! I don't recall the reason I've only seen him a few times...He must be gathering that section of the brainwashed and pseudo-intellectuals that somehow put together ALL BIG BUSINESS=REPUBLICANS...including and especially "the media"...

puhlease...some people are like petulant children...

It's only the strict moderation at places like DU that can keep these memes alive and insulated from destruction....

...maybe their numbers are a good indicator of how many dumbass 20 somethings with computers think they're contributing to the advancement of society...

brainwashed, slow-witted, self-promoters, irrational...etc. etc. ... we know these and many other types exist in this world, but do they? DO they know where they are? Do they sit there with such and ignorance of self? I suppose they must, must deny their motivations, methods, reason and logic...they lose as they spin deeper in to despair, hate, militancy...

...idiology...

...of course that isn't ALL of them...

I hope they see the light

...but that's just me...

#149 a noble vision:

Subscribe to the WSJ. (Their earnings picture is poor right now.) A conservative newspaper with an upswing in subscribers will get the attention of the leftist papers' owners.

The WSJ is not a conservative newspaper. The editorial page is conservative, but the newsroom is as liberal as you'll find at any other major American news organization.

Matthew Klam:

"Starting that day in 1984, and until May 1986, I ate Ecstasy, once or sometimes twice a month"

#119 Beagle

If Kerry wins the election look for draconian provisions limiting freedom of expression on the internet. The UN, CBS, NYT, and Kerry would like to see some censorship, pronto.

Absolutely right. Let's see...Kerry has basically stated that the U.S. will be subservient to the U.N. if he gets elected. The U.N. says it wants control over the internet... The U.N. is comprised of mostly non-democracies... The MSM monopoly is threatened by free speech... The left has limited the first ammendment by pushing through "hate crimes" (a la Orwellian "thought crimes") legislation...

I'm confident the President will be re-elected and I think it will be a landslide.

But just in case, exercise your Bill of Rights while you have it. Particularly item 2.

Just sayin'.

We are winning! We are too dangerous even to mention!

#153 The Lone Platypus

Well, there's the Washingon Times (not really a national paper) and then a lot of non-daily conservative papers (mostly weekly magazines, actually). Can you think of a national conservative daily?

Charles:

When I grew up in CCCP, NY Times was one of the most quotable foreign newspapers on Soviet television. Guess what. It did not change.

So congrats. This weblog is a very special place, and you deservingly getting all the credits from your dedicated readers.

NY Times can continue to feature young Komsomol brats. But who cares?

Look, folks, I know plenty of people in the media. Even two NY Times reporters. And I can't even begin to describe to you the completely insular and self-defined world they ALL live in. It's not like they sit around scheming ways to slant their coverage toward the Left. It happens automatically and unconsciously -- like a ball rolling downhill. In fact, they don't even know they're doing it, for the most part. For 98% of journalists under a certain age, they've never even been cognizant of the concept of "even-handedness." For them, writing = promoting paleoliberalism. Even if they were to read this very post, they would not understand.

I'm really almost at a loss for words to describe their mindset. The philosophy goes something like this:

(Imagine you are inside the hive-mind of American "journalists.") There is a potential future utopia, built on socialist values. It doesn't exist now, but it will exist -- it must exist in the future. Our purpose on the Earth is to bring it into fruition. Every person who sees this future strives for its realization each in his own way. The highest calling is our calling; we control the thoughts of the peons. This dreamt-of utopia can be brought into physical existence if only enough people visualized it happening. Mass "Creative Visualization" = actual physical manifestation. Our job is to increase the number of people visualizing this socialist utopia. Every article we write, every sentence we type, is an inherent part of this effort. And, of course, our editors are part of the same struggle; they only alter our words for the purpose of making them more effective visualization propaganda. Our unstoppable fate is to succeed in this quest. All those who oppose the realization of this utopia are unthinking, brutal monsters. They must be convinced, or ignored.
/exit hive-mind.

This all happens at the subconscious level. They are on autopilot, and no longer have an individual will. They think they do, but they don't.

Almost everyone I know is part of this hive-mind. And they think I'm part of it too.

The stories I could tell.

aeroblogger (#154),

Thank you so much for that. Cripes, 3 minutes of reading that vacuous pretentious bore with no interests drone on about how special he is was more than I could take.

So Charles, did this guy spend the entire time talking about himself?

zombie,

The stories I could tell.

If they're about these vacuous knobs, please don't. ;-)

Charles

Just my observation but the 43 minutes may have been a small price to pay to be excluded from that list of wacks.

It was like reading 'News & Political Analysis from Movers & Shakers in the Dollar Admittance, 24/7, Back-Street Porn Scene.'

#154 Astro:

Try Ecstasy. It'll make you happy as a Klam.

I attended one of NY's most notoriously liberal colleges, well known for the drug use on campus. Not a point of pride, but the truth nonetheless. Therefore, I think I have license to ask the following:

Who the #$% does Ecstasy and listens to the Beatles?

#157 a noble vision:

Can you think of a national conservative daily?

Not a one.

would you expect anything less from someone who titled his book, "Sam the Cat and Other Stories?"

To hell with them, Charles! It was bound to happen. As soon as they realized we scuttled their multi-pronged attack they started putting out the word that the right-wing blogs were under the direction of the White House and that the word had gone out to them to attack CBS (blah, blah, blah....Karl Rove...more blah). Right then I knew it was only a matter of time till they launched an attack on us.

But guess what? No matter how much they squeal, as long as we keep doing what we're doing with the same enthusiasm, savvy and wit, they can't stop us...and that's what scares them. They know there's no way they can put a stop to us anymore than we can catch Zarqawi. We're too spread out and as long as we keep getting our FACTS RIGHT that's all that matters.

This was is not over by any stretch of the imagination and we'll still be catching things and exposing mendacity long after this story is over.

Face it, Kos is just happy to finally get mentioned in the NYTimes, after a steady three weeks of Powerline, LGF, Allah, Instapundit and the other blog (forgot the name). He must be PEA GREEN by now. It was relentless...every day another article or two or ten about the blogs, mentioning the memos to begin but later, just commenting on the growth of blogs and whether they're reliable.

Now, at that stage, the left wing journalists are not going to come to right wingers for answers so what do they do? Go to the only name on the left that ever comes up--Kos.

Is he the only left-winger that blogs? I'm sure there must be better left-wing blogs but it's always Kos they seem to default to.

Ignore him. Let him have a few crumbs from our table...we're bigger than that. Imagine, I just learned the other day he has a STAFF. You'd think with a staff of wage slaves he could put out a better blog.

And don't get me started on that slag Wonkette! I looked at her site once and I couldn't understand what the hell she was talking about. I guess it was supposed to be cutesy and hip 'inside' stuff but I just found it small on information and dumb. Maureen Dowd would probably like it...but then she's cutesy and dumb.

Put it all behind you Charles and fellow lizardoids. We ARE da bomb and we know it and we can afford to be gracious to lesser mortals. ;^)

179 zombie: I'm with ya on that one.

email to Matt:
Matt,
Someone posted a report using your name, as if you had written it, but it went on and on for 10 pages, claiming all the while to be informing readers.

It claimed to be informing readers of the Blogosphere, its content and its function, but the report also claimed that YOU had written it. They wrote, however, as if only Kos and Wonkette and Atrios, communist-lookalike leftists and anti-American scabs, exist on the Internet.

Obviously, the forgers didn't realize that you are aware that there are posters like Mark Steyn, Steven den Beste, Charles Johnson, GreyHawk, Instapundit and others whose opinions are VASTLY different from those of Markos "Screw 'em!" Zuniga and the Sex-for-Pay Girl of their Report.

You should prepare yourself for a lot of people accusing you of some sloppy, biased, arrogant writing, because of the perpetrators who used your name in vain, most probably to defame or to demean you and make you look silly, small and incompetent AS WELL AS left-biased.

All the best,

Dr Kerry Dean

How interesting. Here in Estonia, we also had a major newspaper do a 4-page story about blogs - for Estonian political blogs, they mentioned two - one by a run-of-the-mill leftie, and one by three hard-left Marx-was-God moonbats. And get this - for international political blogs, they mentioned one. [Link: www.michaelmoore.com...]

And this is one of our more pro-business, rightwing papers. The lack of clue is so shockingly blatant that I'm tempted to apply to that green card lottery thing.

Funny thing; at least three if not four of the top 6 blogs listed at The Truth Laid Bear are all conservative. Dunno bout three since there isn't a link but since LGF is missing I figure we're it. Aside from the morasse that is Kos, the only other chink is Gizmodo, a tech blog. And Andrew Sullivan is next, giving him perhaps an overly generous benefit of the doubt in terms of conservatism at this late date.

# 140 Lady of Shalott

Please post the link so we can get the word out. I for one will post it in my cube at work and do all I can to get people to look at it. We need to remember and NEVER FORGET!!

It really does not matter what someone says in the NYT. I just googled the term "blog", and got 55,900,000 results. The blogosphere is vast, even considering repeat matches and articles about blogs versus blogs themselves.

Wasn't google going to offer a blog search, or am I misremembering?

Bush's blog comes in during my search in position #9 and kedwards lags behind at #16.

All this looks more and more like what takes place in France. The media have reached a point of no return. They have to hang on though, cling to their warped logic. When they can't refute a fact, the Leftist intelligentsia conceals it from the general public. Uninformed, unaware. Rewriting history as in 1984.
Prepare yourself for many episodes like that. And they will increasingly debase as "racist" anyone who doesn't agree with their views.
The Grand Brainwashing has begun. I hope the Americans will be clever enough not to be biased by this kind of strategy. It's difficult to resist the power of the media, when it's your only source of information.

Charles,
you as well as all in the blogs must maintain focus and
not become Bill O in paranoia, as much as you and
countless unnamed others have done and are doing
you are a handy personification of.
bottom line they are scrambling would you be wiser
if some nitwit quoted you? I and you and we know not.
carry on and wear shades that light can be blinding.

#174 bigel
I hope so. The damage done by 30 years of LLL brainwashing in Europe has been terrible, as you know.

Even in France, some people have their doubts now, but it takes a while for most of people to finally understand that what they believe are historical facts is but rubbish propaganda. As if you told someone, out of the blue, that the astronomers made a big mistake that the earth is in fact flat.

Furthermore, most people are not very curious, they don't like to think too much, in short they are average people with average intelligence. They are quite happy with the predigested knowledge that is being catered to them, and certainly do not desire to dig further.

bigel, BTW, how was the fasting? Not too hard?

Charles, I hope you're watching, 'cause he credited you, AND got your name right! (After suffering thru that caller talk ON and ON about really needing a computer? THANK YOU caller CLICK already!)

I think NYTs ignoring conservative blogs might workout to your advantage. Conservative bloggers can start a blog campaign: "The blogs the New York Times doesn't want you to to know about. What are they afraid of? Read these blogs and find out -- the truth."

approx 7:54 EDT - hope your watching cspan - some caller did great job of pointing out abscence of LGF et al and how incomplete and one-sided the article is. Klam mentioned Charles interview - - he's backpeddaling fast - - keep those calls coming to cspan.

Charles has to send a copy of the transcript to his
smarmy atty

"josh an intectual"
Josh is a partisan hack asshat

#182 pimf

Well, he did mention Instapundit.

Klam shows his colors throughout the piece with his cozy descriptions of Marshall in Klam's hotel room, question-begging references to "Valerie Plame's cover being blown," and the like. Really, The Times does suck uncontrollably.

well that is that he did what he did, Charles have fun
with your atty at least we know your $ won't go to
Hamas!! C-Span has become CBS oh well

Any FL LGFers up and still have power?

OT

Indian Country

America's military faces the most thankless task in the history of warfare.

OK, I'm watching Klam on C-SPAN now, and Klam's a pretty dismissable idiot. He repeatedly mentions Charles in positive terms on air, but when a caller pointed out that Klam completely missed the point of blogging by not mentioning the very blogs that broke the Rathergate story, he simply says that he focused on lefty blogs because "they're doing very well in this cycle." What? How does one define "well?" Never mind that Daily Kos has been cornered arguing several ridiculous points (like the authenticity of forged memos) and has had to pull ads due to his own foul mouth.

Klam (a former waiter, he brags) and someone who posts his short stories on the web (zzzzzzzzzzzz) is THE model freelance writer ... dumb, two steps behind, and completely pandering to whoever will give him 15 minutes of fame (NYT).

And their callers are mostly pathetic: a 34-year-old guy who works with kids but doesn't even know how to turn on a computer and an apparently elderly woman who wonders if the FCC will regulate computers to make sure they check their sources ("...like newspeople have to do").

Well, it's interesting to see blogging and liberal mainstram media intersect. Even after getting a huge slapdown from blogging, liberal mainstream media is determined to treat blogging with the same ideological manipulation ... which just shows they haven't learned a thing. Oh well, let them be replaced; the sooner the better.

Kind of On Topic

Pat Buchanan has a good point:

Why isn't Dan angry?

Where is the outrage? Where is the righteous rage of Dan Rather at the forgers of faked military records of George W. Bush, who played him for a fool?

#122 Dizzy26 - You're welcome!

#127 Rose

Priceless!

You need to remind yourself that a tree don't ever get too big for a short dog to lift his leg on, Dan.

Could be a new bloggers motto, methinks. ;-p

the POINT is he never mentioned any so called right wing blogs ( breath deep at his idiotroid nature )
in article but Blathered on about LGF and others in
"interview".
Grasshoppa may cash a check today,
don't buy a volvo that matches your yellow jacket.

Is it worth emailing C-Span to suggest that they give us "the rest of the story" by having Charles on as a guest?

sarah even a stopped clock is right twice a day

Rww
that is up to Charles from my perspective I think his time is better spent doing what he has always done vs
defending himself to the crickets.

Look at it this way.

If the Right-Wing blogs really were the cesspits of racism and ignorance the left always claims they are, the NYT would have made this the central theme of the story and linked prominently to them.

Instead, the reporter or his research assistant probably went to LGF, Belmont, and so on and found them filled with well-reasoned and often clever and witty debate.

They probably then realized that readers sent our way might be persuaded to think about things from a new "right" perspective. This being the case, they wanted to make sure the only blogs the readers saw were lefties.

# 187 brett, Did you hear the old lady that called in and said the Hurricane was sent by God to get Bush out of Iraq?

#193

well, okay. i was thinking that if the nyt was worth 45 minutes, then wouldn't it be worth the same time on cspan. also, i wasn't really thinking "defense". when someone has something newsworthy and factual to offer the public, i don't see that as playing defense. yeah it would have been nice if Charles were the first guest on the subject, but i guess that doesn't bother me that much.

with all that said, i appreciate your view that Charles should not get off-track and that it is his decision (tho i think that he "can't" make the decision without his looking like he was in fact playing defense - which is why i thought a campaign to cspan might be something "we" should ponder).

It was apparent that the article would be severely flawed almost immediately, when he wrote that "a year ago nobody but campaign staffers and insomniacs knew what blogs were." There are so behind the curve it's laughable.

#196 bigel

Your sub species has been determined:

Crusading Ogre. This encounter is dangerous because of the creature's ability to bowl over others. The crusading ogre's got an agenda and will barge into any discussion, no matter how unrelated, to turn it into a diatribe about that agenda.

[Link: www.montecook.com...]

Only slightly OT:

The NYT's dysfunctional foster child, the Boston Daily Worker, er, I mean, the Boston Globe, has a loathsome front page story today headlined:

"Europe's terror fight quiet, unrelenting"

(The link is only good through Monday, 9/27)

And yes, unbelievably, it paints Zapatero, Schroeder, and Chirac as serious, sober-minded defenders against "criminal" terrorism, in stark contrast to Bush and his "war on terrorism" (with scare quotes in original text).

Read it all, and understand.

Hmm, is my sarcasm radar getting rusty? I thought they were poking fun at the whole scene. That description of Wonkette makes her look shallow and silly along with the rest of the "gang".

By the way, last week _Daily Kos_ was being billed as "satire" on Google (should have saved a screen shot).

You probably gave them a lucid explanation of what a blogger does. This gave the writer a framework for the article. The people he actually quotes sound like they would not have been able to do that.

You should have charged the reporter a fee for private tutoring.

The looney left is only becoming more outrageously despicable, if that is possible.

Keep fighting, Charles. There are a lot of good people who are with you.

Why spend so much time, effort, and energy railing against the NYT when less than .0000001% of the population even read the rag?

FWIW, it looks like the circulation of the NYT is stagnant.

Klam, isn't that something you hock up when you have a cold?
Never heard it called a metther before.

/gross mode

Matthew, not metther . PIMF.

I think it quite plausible that some at the NYT do not want to drive more traffic to a site like LGF, which exposes people to information that is anathema to their worldview. The concept of being completely unbiased already led to an inability to correctly use the English language--for instance, by refusing to name a terrorist as such.

But now, I think there are those in the media who are taking this one step further. They are trying to report what they see as "a larger truth." Listening to Bush, Rumsfeld and others they are driven into paroxisms of anger. They cannot believe for a second that there is any truth in what they are saying. So, rather than adhering to the mantra of trying to report the news without favoring anyone, they now cannot help but try to make sure that the American public is not "misled" by these comments. And so we have "the larger truth."

For most, this is probably not conscious. As some other posters have noted, they are caught up in an insular circle and have noone challenging this direction. But, as the mainstream media loses its perspective, it is also becoming increasingly irrelevant.

Charles, the blogs are putting MSM jobs in jeopardy. They will with all illegal and unethical means at their disposal, which is quite an arsenal.

Vigilance, constant vigilance!

The concept of being completely unbiased already led to an inability to correctly use the English language

I love the smell of irony in the morning.

What was important to these new activists, he told me, was winning -- winning the presidency, winning back the Senate, winning as many Congressional seats as possible.

Says it all.

::sniff::: :::sniff:::

smell? irony? no, that's not it .. hmmmm.... did something just crawl out from under a bridge?

Florida LGF'ers, know you're up to your ass in Gator's (yeah, yeah and Seminole's and dare I say, Hurricane's). Let all know you are ok, when you can, please.

The passages about Wonkette are particularly disturbing--like overhearing some pathetic drunk hitting on another pathetic drunk

The Wonkette is more fun to read than Daily Kos. She's also more fun to hang out with.

Ana Marie Cox has peachy cream skin and eyes of a very bright blue, strawberry blond hair and a filthy mind...

She's the daughter of a six-foot-tall blond Scandinavian goddess...

This is all about Klam trying to get into Wonkette's pants. I suspect he may have succeeded.

Elcid,

Check your email!

Buried in the NYT article featuring lefty bloggers
pages 6 and 7 [at Dem convention in Boston]

But no Josh Marshall.
I ran into him later on in the press stands. . .fiddling with his computer and finishing a cellphone call about what he called ''the biggest story of my life,'' one that would quell any fears about his legitimacy as a real journalist, at least for a while
. . .
Marshall loved the idea of being tapped by those who had once ignored him. Over the summer, he paired up with a big network news show on an investigative story, hoping some of its credibility would rub off on him. But then the network bumped the story at the last minute.

And I think we know what this story is, don't we? The story of how forged documents that superficially supported the British Intelligence reports of Saddam trying to purchase fissionable material in Africa, which was seized upon by the MSM to somehow discredit the conclusions that the Brits came to independently.

The story that bumped it was the one that used the forged documents, which ultimately morphed into Ra^thergate. When it became blindingly obvious that the documents were not only forged, but badly done, the new talking point was 'Rove did it'. Could it be that the Kerry camp, knowing what Josh and 60min² were up to, projecting those methods onto the übergenius Rove?

And why doesn't the NYT mention this other story? Because it makes 60min² look even worse.

NYT's "new journalism" - devoid of objectivity:

“No serious thinker any longer believes in a verifiable, objective reality,” said one newsman. An article in the Atlantic Monthly concluded that it is “better to admit from the start the inevitable subjectivity of journalism, and then to treat it as a necessary condition.” Such mainstream advocates of what is known as the “new journalism” explicitly devalue, even outright repudiate, a rigorous commitment to facts and truth in the news. As a Washington Post editor put it: “The old objectivity really wasn’t the way to report.”

..........
Why should they bow before the facts? Or why should the New York Times bother to check the truth of the claims made by Jayson Blair? After all, “objectivity really isn’t the way to report.”

The shocking truth, Bernstein concludes, of why major news organizations often do not perform the most elementary tasks of fact checking is that facts are a decidedly secondary consideration to them. Promoting their own subjective view is all that matters.

[Link: www.aynrand.org...]

It gets worse. David Broder looks at the collapse of journalistic ethics and blames bloggers:

When the Internet opened the door to scores of "journalists" who had no allegiance at all to the skeptical and self-disciplined ethic of professional news gathering, the bars were already down in many old-line media organizations. That is how it happened that old pros such as Dan Rather and former New York Times editor Howell Raines got caught up in this fevered atmosphere and let their standards slip.

Broder uses scare quotes when talking about blogs, but calls a fraud like Rather an "old pro."

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

Sarah

Good to see you...check your mail, too.

They used to say don't get in a war of words with a man who buys his ink by the barrel, well bloggers use electricity not ink, and we get our juice from clean nuclear power, so limitless it will be almost to cheap to meter, well anyway we don't have to pay for ink.

Mr. Klams way of writing reminds me of "valley girls"
discussing world events.
You know,like,you know,like way out there,like,and when I was down by the seashore,like,you know..................like

Elcid,

LOL! Yep, I anchored the tarp with them.

I expect to lose power soon and I planned ahead by hitting Borders yesterday.

BTW - Unfit for Command was there, but I didn't pick it up....waiting for the paperback!

"The Borg took over my ship, but they never tried to assimilate me. They assimilated that worthless second assistant engine wiper down in engineering, but they never once tried to assimilate me. Not once!"

Their loss. Don't ever base any plans, hopes, self-esteem, validation, legitimization, etc. on recognition by the MSM. You're better than them, you're more important than them, you don't need them.

Ignore them. Talk to Fox, and Nat'l Review, and the like. Let them complain that you talk to everyone else, but never gave them another interview. Not once.

the skeptical and self-disciplined ethic of professional news gathering

How does presenting forged papers to the public as real fit into this noble philosophy? Was Rather still skeptical and self-disciplined in 1988 when he passed off those fraudulent "Vietnam veterans" as representative of all Vietnam combat vets? That was a long time before there were blogs, Bucko!

Kerry has been negotiating with the enemies of the United States for 30+ years. We cannot let Americans forget his despicable behavior during the Contra/Ortega crisis.

Lowell Ponte of frontpagemag.com on Sept.16th writes:

The Democrat-controlled House of Representatives, lobbied by Harkin and Kerry, voted against giving aid to the anti-Communist Contras. Harkin and Kerry according to some accounts had been told privately in Nicaragua, but had kept secret from fellow Democrat lawmakers, that at the very moment the vote against President Reagan’s request was taking place Daniel Ortega would be aboard a Soviet airliner winging to Moscow to pledge his allegiance to the Soviet Union.
Kerry’s response was not to criticize the Sandinista leader but to tell the liberal Boston Globe that President Reagan had “forced Ortega to look to the Soviets for help.” 
But years earlier Ortega’s brother Humberto had declared: “We [Sandinistas] are anti-Yankee, we are against the bourgeoisie…we are guided by the scientific doctrine of the revolution, by Marxism-Leninism.” Humberto Ortega also had said that the Sandinistas intended to “crush” all who dissented from their rule.
Harkin and Kerry, said critics, had violated the Constitution by negotiating a treaty directly with a foreign nation (a power exclusive to the Executive, not the Legislative branch of government), and that the two leftwing Senators were “cavorting with, and used by, the Communists.” Kerry said that he was “as mad as anyone” that the Sandinista leader he and Harkin had embraced days earlier had gone to Moscow.
“Where did my colleagues think he was going to go? Disney World?” retorted liberal Senator Christopher Dodd (D.-Connecticut), annoyed by the embarrassment they had caused for other Democrats. “The man is a Marxist.”

You leftist nut-balls want this guy directing.....aw forget it!

#179 Melvin Frohike

I think NYTs ignoring conservative blogs might workout to your advantage. Conservative bloggers can start a blog campaign: "The blogs the New York Times doesn't want you to to know about. What are they afraid of? Read these blogs and find out -- the truth."

Would a couple of New York readers print out - say, 10,000 such leaflets about the New York Times' censorship on this issue, and start passing them out at Times Square, Central Park, Grand Central, Penn Station, the Met, Macy's and a few other places? Printing 1,000 copies on 10 people's laser printers would not be a problem.

That would get some attention and cost precious little.

#215 The Monster

Ooooh....colors....

Like the Wonkette, Marshall loved the idea of being tapped by those who had once ignored him. Over the summer, he paired up with a big network news show on an investigative story, hoping some of its credibility would rub off on him. But then the network bumped the story at the last minute. If only he could turn his back completely on the old way, concentrate on nothing but the blog; but letting go of institutional approval and the security and camaraderie that goes with it is like jumping out a window. He can't decide between loving the big media, linking to it, hoping they'll pick up on stories, and hating it, despising it, insulting it, trying to convince you, or himself, that it's the worst thing in the world and that it's ruining American democracy.

There's something a little pathetic about Marshall's desperate need for validation from old media. Freud would love it.

For the blogosphere (would somebody please come up with a less sci-fi sounding name) to remain a credible marketplace of ideas and information, it needs to distance itself from obviously biased media dinosaurs like the NYT. It needs to be independent. I suspect that's why Klam took pains to portray Kos as a rebellious firebrand.

Moulitsas is a rabid Democrat, devoted to the idea of the party, but he also feels a deep distrust for the party system, and so do many of his readers. Moulitsas has always been an outsider.

But he's not fooling anyone. By the end of the article, he comes across as a pampered Hollywood liberal complaining about the burden of his own success.

Moulitsas said that people had been coming in from Brooklyn and other places just to shake his hand, because they knew he would be at the Tank. ''It's weird,'' he said. ''It makes me uncomfortable. People who achieve a certain amount of celebrity plan it. They expect that public attention will be part of the package.''

Away from the Tank now, he could relax for a moment and reflect. ''I'm really self-conscious of how the blogger community perceives me,'' he said. ''I feel guilty that I don't link to more bloggers, I feel guilty that I'm more successful than other bloggers. I feel guilty that I make as much money as I do now, that I get more traffic. Rather than enjoy it, sometimes I feel really guilty about it. It's silly.''

These people are weak and pathetic. They criticize the establishment while pleading for validation from the main-stream media. Wonkette wants to be a reporter for MTV? Are you kidding me? And Kos, the "platonic ideal of blogging" can't stop whining about how popular he is. Pathetic.

Mr. Johnson, congratulations on not being mentioned in this article.

Sarah

I expect to lose power soon and I planned ahead by hitting Borders yesterday.

Hope that "Borders" is a bar, or a NEW Scotch...LOL. And sorry that you will lose power.

I know, I know...it a bookstore...lol

As for spinning the news, here we have Daniel Schorr of the Christian Science Monitor telling us that Rathergate is only a mistake. He blames it all on Burkett and ignores all the evidence showing it to be much more than that.

Charles - next time someone from the NYT, or the alphabet networks call you - tell them to "shove it" and hang-up. They'll think that you're "nuanced".

I caught the last three calls of the Kalm interview. He claimed not to be a news junkie himself, which I gathered was his reason for not balancing his story between left and right. Still they all took him to task for "missing" the Rather CBS story and for over emphasizing "leftist" blog sites at the expense of the other side. One specifically cited LGF. Klam, for his part, spoke at length about Charles and explained that many bloggers got into the business because they had a message they wanted to get out. He mentioned that Charles started as 9/11 happened and that event gave him focus ever since. Something like that. He was as lame as the callers were accusatory. They really nailed him.

I checked the C-SPAN schedule and do not see a repeat of the Journal. Perhaps it is on archive.

MOre propaganda. Big f'in surprise.

I view it as flattering to your efforts and those of the other anti-idiotarians that they left you out. Be assured it wasnt an incidental oversight

Clearly they view you as a threat. Can you imagine if more open minded readers of the NY Times (I know, they dont exist, but one can hope) came here or to the Belmont Club or to Simon's site?

Dont want to risk anyone having access to the truth, do we?

Keep staying on message, Times. You will still lose.

People, people, people.

So the MSM doesn't want to acknowledge LGF, Instapundit, Powerline, etc?

Great!!

When you are at war, being invisible has a whole lot of advantages. If the MSM wants to pretend that Charles doesn't exist -- what's the problem.

It sure won't keep Charles from doing what Charles does so well. And what Charles and others have done has sent an earthquake through the MSM.

So if the MSM is stumbling around muttering' . . . ah, it wasn't so bad. . . .only a 8.4, just a little tremor. . . .everything will soon be back to normal. . .Bush is Hitler. . ." ---- so be it.

Things will never go back to normal unless Al Gore disinvents the internet.

OT:

Anyone else ever post anything to left-wing blog? Anyone else have their specific dial-up IP attacked less than 1 hour later? I'm giving up, I think, on an almost-moderate left-wing blog now that this has happened to me twice. (Interestingly, both attacks have come from foreign countries. Once China, more recently Spain.) Coincidence? Opinions anyone?

The article misses the true affect of left wing blogs? such as DU and indymedia, clogging up the search engines with anti-us and antijewish hate lies. Imagine how many young students researching israel, or the concept of liberty, or 9/11 end up with a twisted view of life.

Would a couple of New York readers print out - say, 10,000 such leaflets about the New York Times' censorship on this issue, and start passing them out at Times Square, Central Park, Grand Central, Penn Station, the Met, Macy's and a few other places? Printing 1,000 copies on 10 people's laser printers would not be a problem.

That would get some attention and cost precious little.

Would it be wrong to buy a paper, and then slip such leaflets into the NYT's in the vending machine? I wouldn't want to do anything unethical.

Based on the few weeks I've been here, I do not assess LGF as a "right-wing" blog. (And I've briefly perused some of the archives.) Ditto for Instapundit. Glenn Reynolds is, like me, more of a libertarian.

As near as I have been able to observe, this site takes the same foreign policy positions I do, namely, it understands the threat of jihadist Islam and broadly supports Bush's foreign policy. On many domestic issues I disagree with Bush, and from what I've seen, many LGFers would not fall in line with him on all those questions, either.

My view is that foreign policy has become the paramount issue of this election. For that reason, I am strongly supporting Bush. If being hawkish on Islamic terrorism renders me "right-wing," something has gone wrong with political nomenclature.

Finally, I haven't seen anyone savoring rape fantasies (except in paordy of left-wing accusations of same) or promoting racial hatred. A blog promoting such things would be offensive to me, and I would not be here.

This is just apeing the Guardian and their coverage of bloggers. They concentrated on left-wing bloggers and the only right wing one meriting a mention was one that fit into their limited paramaters (ie reactionary/paternalistic right).

I don't think either the Guardian or the NYT is willing to admit that thousands of people like to read right-of-centre blogs. Which particularily sad considering even the Beeb now acknowledges this.

This is hardly surprising. I expect, as October approaches, a groundswell of anti-Bush, anti-war, pro-anything that makes the center right look bad hogwash from the mainstream press, and broadcast outfits. I remember the last minute effort by the LA Times to smear Schwartzeneger before the recall, and the eleventh hour release of GWB's drunk driving arrest in the last election. Standard operating procedure. It's going to get louder, shriller, and more strident from here on in to November. Our turn comes November 3. First we vote, then we gloat. (I pray)
JWM

#159

And I can't even begin to describe to you the completely insular and self-defined world they ALL live in. It's not like they sit around scheming ways to slant their coverage toward the Left. It happens automatically and unconsciously -- like a ball rolling downhill. In fact, they don't even know they're doing it, for the most part.

You know, I always laugh at "diversity training" or even find it offensive. But wouldn't that really help MSM? They should be forced to go out and spend time with the normal people of the country.

Maybe we can find foster homes to sponsor them. I know someone in Worthington Minnesota that could one in. Any LFGers from Williston North Dakota that will house a MSM lefty?

OT: Update

The most recent attack from Spain.

I just determined that the computer that attacked me has at least 4 security holes in it.

Ethics question: Would it be immoral for me to crash said computer?

When you are at war, being invisible has a whole lot of advantages. If the MSM wants to pretend that Charles doesn't exist -- what's the problem.

Maybe that's not so bad. MSM and liberal politicians don't think that most normal Americans support 2nd amendments rights, and that costs them in every election (think Tennessee in 2000). Their blindness and denial only makes them more ignorant/arrogant.

When will "right" thinkers realize that we are being pushed into a corner, ridiculed and kept segregated from the *rest* of the world?

The people in control of (most of) the media today are hardcore Lefties.

Everything, everything, going out about the election, Iraq, the economy, the world as we live in it, has a Left-slant to it.

The implication being that we of the right are against having a clean environment, health care, decent education, economic prosperity and security at home and abroad.

It is, in fact, we who desire these things to be had by individuals to enjoy and make use of as we see fit - without a government body telling us *how* to live our lives.

Education has been under the iron first of Lefties for decades, and our kids are struggling. Hollywood pumps out endless streams of mindless violence and disgusting characters on TV and in the movies and then whines about how violent our society has become.

They want to ban guns and punish people for thinking the wrong things, but refuse to punish actual criminals.

The hypocrisy of the Left is destroying this planet, plain and simple. Personal responsibility is almost wiped out, instead of teaching students are coached along or given endless excuses (instead of teaching abstinence, Lefties want on-demand abortion and condoms).

Terrorists are trying very hard to attack not just the US, but all non-Muslim countries and peoples. At the same time the Left wants to destroy morality, responsibility and common sense while ignoring the external threat to their control and power as well.

What the hell happened in the 6 decades since the last World War that nearly consumed us all?

How much longer until people on the "wrong" side ideologically get herded into onto planes and sent away. And trust me, it won't be the Alec Baldwins or Tim Robbins getting herded, it will be people who oppose them.

Ethics question: Would it be immoral for me to crash said computer?

might be more fun to use the flaws of the eu aginst them. Find out where they live. Report them for any minor zoning, business codes etc violations you can grok. Call interpol on their butz.

Charles, thanks for the blogs you listed (as should-have-been-included entries in the article). Half of them I'd not heard of and I'm going to visit them.

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#225 Scotsilv

Would a couple of New York readers print out - say, 10,000 such leaflets about the New York Times' censorship on this issue, and start passing them out at Times Square, Central Park, Grand Central, Penn Station, the Met, Macy's and a few other places? Printing 1,000 copies on 10 people's laser printers would not be a problem.

That would get some attention and cost precious little.

That would be a good start. :) What would be cool is starting a campaign across the conservative/moderate blogosphere to collect money from readers for a full page ad in the New York Post and the Washington Times. Between Charles and Allah there is enough talent to create something eye-catching. All participating blogs will get their URL listed in the ad. Any remaining funds could be donated to a pre-determined charity.

Now if only there was someone with the talent to organize it. :/

What should one expect from the New York Slimes? Bouquets? OOPS, I used a french word.

Listen to NYT author Matthew Klam's take on what blogging is all about. It turns out it's really all about Matthew himself -- a lefty gossip columnist who fancies himself a "journalist" -- starstruck at having managed to tag along with the blogosphere's golden girl -- "Ana Marie Cox has peachy cream skin and eyes of a very bright blue, strawberry blond hair and a filthy mind; she likes to analyze our nation's leaders in their most private, ah, parts" -- to the most glamorous parties surrounding the political conventions this summer.

Let them eat raw carrots and radishes

This Kos guy served in the U.S. Army according to the article. Is there a hypocrisy angle where we can demand he sign a Form 180?

Didn't even mention LGF and Charles' buddies?

Please refer to the picture under the link titled "The art of political whining".

      They managed to make blogging sound boring! Dear God in Heaven, they even managed to make Wonkette boring!  They wrote about her without mentioning ass-fucking once!

      Be glad they only stole some of your time.  If they'd actually mentioned you, they'd have done permanent damage to the blog.