Well, its always so nice when Islam reminds us how law-abiding they are.

Dhimmitude knows no bounds?

Well, they're dead.

They certainly are lashing out in their rage.

The hasty stroke oft goes astray...

So does that make little miss Slimeade a target also?God,these people are horrid horid vermin.

"Why can't we be friends?"

Cause they want you dead, kufr!

...it had to be said that Denmark was at war with an Islamic nation and that made its leaders legitimate targets according to Islam.

Okey-Doke. By that reasoning, you're a soldier eligible for a bullet too. Remember to open the envelope under water after you pickup your welfare check.

Who is not a legitimate target according to islam?

Did I miss something? When did Denmark declare war on Islam? I heard they might have been trying to limit Moslem immigration. I guess that's the same thing.

Isn't Denmark part of the great Scandinavian Utopia? What an ingrate! (nettled) Well, a few more years of minimalist furniture and municipal socialism should convince this Abderahmane fellow to give up his brutish ways.

Got no problem with that. It's reality.

We're at war, folks. If one has declared war on a country then the 'command structure' is a legit target. We did it to Saddam. We're after Osama. We'd expect less from an enemy-without-a-country?

They've declared war on western civilization in general and the U.S. (ie: the Great Satan) in particular. Thus, from their side of the conflict, Western leaders are indeed legitimate targets.

Like we didn't know that.

Just keep the dude in the hole. Like, forever.

Apparently babies and children are also legitimate targets for these killers. Everything that draws breath is their targets. Killing the killers is a noble effort.

Charles,

Please note Norwegian kafir's post and article. It appears the EU, on behalf of France, will offer immunity and sanctuary to representatives of the butchers, beheading aid-workers, bombing and terrorizing Iraqi's and those working to rebuild the country - while they attend a fuking conference.

I believe Denmark has about 500 soldiers in Iraq, and the country has been a staunch supporter of the war on terrorism.

#13

What kind of conference? Sounds fun... ;-)

I saw a cartoon once about the Dodo bird and how it became extinct because it was so stupid they all followed each other over a cliff and to their death.

For some reason this story reminds me of that.

Isn't this the country which has all islamic sections of the city that the police are afraid to go.

"Slimane" -- Tolkien couldn't have come up with a better name.

Another one released from Gitmo? What is the fucking point?

Well, ya can't call this Islamist scum a "liar" about this one.

grayp, let's see:

Slimane is just like Cat Stevens! He was, like, totally railroaded! All he was saying was what Islam SAID, not what Islamic people should DO. He's just reporting facts! He's innocent! Let him go! Kerry/Edwards in '04!

That about right?

See US CENTCOM page here for details on Denmark's involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan.

As for Iraq:

During Operation IRAQI FREEDOM Denmark has been engaged with a coastal submarine and a frigate in the Arabian Gulf naval operations and with a surgical team in Jordan.

At present Denmark has deployed a battalion to MND (SE), operating out of southern Iraq. The battalion consists of a Light Armoured Reconnaissance Squadron, an Armoured Infantry Company, a HQ & LOG Company, a CIMIC Detachment, a Medi¬cal Platoon, a Mine Clearing and Explosive Ordnance Disposal Unit, a Military Police Detachment, an Engi¬neering Detachment, and staff and liaison officers to the combined headquarters. In addition to the battalion, Denmark has deployed a National Support Element.

Furthermore staff personnel are embedded with the HQ MND (CS) and the MNF-I. To liaise between Danish Authorities and U.S. Central Command, Denmark has de¬ployed a liaison team of 5 personnel to the U.S. Central Command headquarters in Tampa, Florida.

To view the participation of other countries, go here.

These moral cro-magnons, inbred neanderthals, brainwashed mohammedan murder-bot POS's. Why do we allow them to infest our countries with thier moral barbarism, their ugly tribalism, thier adolescently violent sexual repressivism, thier horrid mysogyny and thier vile doctrine of Jihad?

Why Why Why ???

What do they contribute but instability, social tension, crime, religious and sexual violence ??

Are we deaf ? Are we stupid ? Are we suicidal ?

We have allowed ourselves to be colonized by monsters.

So, what's new?

Don't belong to the house of islam, you're a target, pure and simple, unless you're willing to be a dhimmi and pay your poll tax.

Nonetheless, spokesmen from both the government and the opposition agreed with legal experts in saying that it would not be possible to press charges against Abederahmane on the basis of his statements.

A threat to kill is not against the law in Denmark? It sure as hell is in most, if not all states in the US!
What is wrong with these people?!!

The intellectual simplicity of this is why the left can not get their heads around the threat. They can't really mean what they are saying so they must mean something else. They think the left worldview can survive in the Islamist atmosphere. It can not.

No where in the KO-ran does it say that atheists are tolerated. Atheists are perhaps less vile than pagans but that does not save them from the Hopson's choice of Islam: submit or die.

Most Eurocastratos have come to have a freeloaders view of the situation, the US can will pay to protect us. But we cannot protect them from from the people in their own societies.

This Gitmo graduate is a toxic human; dangerous to all those around him. This is why I am so glad the Russians are in this war: the Russians would kill this bastard and everyone in his extended family they could lay their hands on.

Abderahmane himself said later that he while did not intend to promote violence or terrorism, it had to be said that Denmark was at war with an Islamic nation and that made its leaders legitimate targets according to Islam.

Well, no big surprise. Earlier this month, several hundred Russian tykes were also considered 'legitimate targets' by Islam...what's a few Scandinavian bureaucrats here and there?

We need to arrange some "accidents" for these jerks getting out of Gitmo. Or we could just let them fly home on Cubana Airlines...

#27 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

The intellectual simplicity of this is why the left can not get their heads around the threat. They can't really mean what they are saying so they must mean something else. They think the left worldview can survive in the Islamist atmosphere. It can not.

Well said!

#16 Snake Plissken

Lemmings supposedly jump off cliffs in unison.

The Dodo became extinct for quite different reasons, perhaps more like the situation the Danes are soon to find themselves in.

Raphus Cucullatus - Dodo Bird

Conservation
Status: extinct

The first group of sailors believed to have arrived on Mauritius were Portuguese, led by Captain Mascaregnas, in 1507. They had intended to land on the Cape of Good Hope in South Africa, but stormy conditions had blown them off course and they ended up finding respite on Mauritius. Several other expeditions, Portuguese, Dutch, British and others, made stops at the island in the following years. In the dodos, the sailors found amusement and, when they were running out of supplies, food. The Dutch colonized Mauritius in 1644 . Along with groups of people, the ships brought cats, dogs, swine and sometimes monkeys. These animals quickly invaded the woods, trampling the nests and frightening the birds. These domestic creatures also devoured the dodo eggs and young. The interference of the foreign animals coupled with the continued overuse of the birds for food led to its total extinction by 1693. (Strickland and Melville, 1848) (Britannica, 1986)

Thank you Sir, may I have another!

#31-Paco

Don't pull punches.
Come right out and say it.
They are shtupid.

#26: "A threat to kill is not against the law in Denmark? It sure as hell is in most, if not all states in the US!
What is wrong with these people?!! "

Nothing is wrong with them, or with us. A generalized threat like that one is *not* illegal in the U.S., and a person here is free to say exactly what Abderahmane said about our political leaders, so long as a) there was not a specific threat and b) one were not inciting a riot. White supremecists do it all the time. Make a statement like that in Iran, however...

It's precisely that strength that makes us the good guys. IMO, Denmark is showing that exact same strength and I applaud them for it.

And I always heard " The meek shall inherit the earth."

But they wouldn't get the mineral rights.

"legitimate" and "terror target" in the same sentence? Does anyone read this stuff, really, or do they have a macro?

everyone check out the newest thread - Danish Embassy in Sweden attacked by the "global Intifada"

#16 and #31.

Snake is recalling a scene from the animated movie "Ice Age".

#29

"Good morning ladies and gentlemen. On behalf of our favorite TxANG F-102 pilot we would like to welcome you aboard Air America Flight 9/11. Our in-flight entertainment today will be the Toby Keith "Brought to you Courtest of the Red, White and Blue" video. I apologize if you can't hear me clearly from the sound of the cabin depressurizing, but, if you would, please bring yourself to the full kiss your b_tt goodbye position ..."

#33 sefton

See the new thread.

When they say you're a target, better believe them!

PIMF... "courtesy"

This is a good read from David Warren

[Link: www.davidwarrenonline.com...]

and this a lettter in Horsefeathers, 'Letter to our enemies'.

[Link: www.doctor-horsefeathers.com...]

Some academics are getting it.
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I'm ever so grateful to the likes of this Danish Muslim, Abu Hamza and others, for being so candid about Islam. Why are they berated? Here are honest men, honest Muslims. They speak the truth.

The real danger is the moderate Muslim, the taqqiya practioner who beguiles the West till the time is ripe to move boldly and strike. This time may not come in the next decade, but come it surely will, if the tide if muslim invasion/immigration is not stopped or even reversed.
The likes of Abu Hamza and Sheikh Bakri are our allies.

Slimane Abderahmane, Hamza and Bakri are giving the game away. It is the reason why so many moderate muslims wish them to just go away.

grayp: From a prvious thread.

This is a serious question. Can
someone explain to me why no one has put a bullet in Arafat's face yet?

Maybe because he is more use to Isreal alive then dead.

#34 manny
Sorry, but your assertion is not the case in Virginia
And I do not applaud the Danes for appeasement.

Legitimate targets...All muslims are legitimate targets for resistance against occupation of our native lands...Jihad is obligatory on all muslims therefore ALL are legitimate targets!

#44 Cornish Intifida

therefore ALL are legitimate targets!

Bingo! Welcome to the war on terror.

Everyone, pleae meet Slimane Abderahmane, Moderate Moslim.

...and now you may begin to understand why it's necessary that we fight to win this latest attempted expansion of Islam.

Them or us, folks.

#34 manny
Woops! One of many Federal laws against threats...

Something else to blame on Israel instead of stupidity

Well, yeah according to the Book of Lies and Hate aka the Koran, all of us kaffirs are fair game as they say this a world war.
Conversely, then, aren't all True Moslems enemies, to be dealt with accordingly?
Yet whenever we remotely look askance at them, they whine and run to the courts or to the media.
Wars cannot be properly conducted by allowing the enemy such recourse.
Not that it will happen, but stripping Moslems of US citizenship and deporting them and disallowing any to come here is logical for fighting this world war.
We can't win if we allow our own people at home to be converted to Islam or at least Dhimmitude.

It's not about us - it's about them - Michael Ledeen

Accustomed as we are to believing that everything in the world has to do with us, we've misunderstood what the recent beheadings are all about. The terrorists are not trying to make us cower. They are not using the beheadings as a technique to drive us out. Insofar as the slaughter of Westerners affects the policies of Coalition members, the same effect could be accomplished by other forms of murder; a government that is prepared to be routed from Iraq will turn tail when its public demands it, regardless of how its citizens have been killed.

This is not about us — it is about them. The beheading films are recruitment tools. They've been around for a long time, part and parcel of the first generation of "jihad" home movies, circulated mostly in North Africa to excite homicidal fanatics and lure them into the Islamist bands. The main difference between then and now is that their marketing and distribution have improved, thanks to their comrades at al Jazeera and al Arabiya, and the Internet.

#42 DP111 : I'm running a bit short on time here. I'm really trying to figure out what use alive Arafat has. If you can enlighten me that's great...I sure don't see any and I never have.

#42 DP111

Maybe because he is more use to Isreal alive then dead.

Well, that was cryptic.

#54 grayp

Well, that was cryptic.

Who was that masked man?;)

Ann
LOL!

I just got mail from reaganite. Expect queries on your address to receive a, um, package, on my behalf.

#56 grayp

receive a, um, package, on my behalf.

This whole thing is so absolutely funny!!!

Silence, woman!

So far this year
Legitimate targets for the "Religion of Peace"

1. Jews
2. Christians
3. Hindus
4. Other religions
5. Women
6. Children
7. Europeans
8. Citizens of NATO alliance countries
9. Australians
10. Japanese
11. Muslims in Sudan of African Descent
12. Any Arabs who cooperate with all of the above
13. Any of their own children as long as the Suicide belt kills members of the above 12 groups.

#58 grayp
Tears rolling... Our UPS guy has already bitched about delivering three set of tires, a table saw, roofing mat and gallons of sealer...

I live in Denmark.

This tool was on a documentary the other day crying about his experiences in Gitmo.

He admitted to training in Afghanistan to join up with the Chechens. The same ones who murdered 300 people in Beslan.

Half of Denmark wants his head on a stick. The other half loves him.

Actually it's probably 70/30.

continental

And what is the percentage of Muslims (citizens or not) in Denmark these days?

#17

Isn't this the country which has all islamic sections of the city that the police are afraid to go.

No, that was either Sweden or Norway.

The Danes have turned into weaklings and cowards, more concerned with their own pleasures and civil liberties than survival. When are people going to wake up and throw these savages back into the cesspools they came out of?

Ann: You're examples are not germane. The Virginia stature refers to actual acts of violence, not threats. And of course the federal statute is about actual, specific threats, not general statements like those of our subject here.

Abderahmane's statement would be no more illegal here than those of any number of idiots over on the LLL pages advocating the death of the president without specifically threatening to do it themselves. Which is to say, if one is a chickenshit and wishes harm on somebody but offloads the actual doing of the deed on an unspecified other, the threat is legal; if one takes responsibility for one's words it in some circumstances it might be illegal.

That does not mean, of course, that persons of good will should not call out such statements for the garbage they are -- we should. But I do think an important strength of our (and Denmark's) society is that not everything which is reprehensible is illegal.

#53 Rayra
The Nagasaki hata is in many's opinion as well as my humble own the world's finest Fighting Kite yet devised. I've built and flown them in the traditional Japanese manner, i.e. hand shaped, heat tempered bamboo and paper.
Originally made in the 1700s when Dutch ships came to port there at Nagasaki.
As the Dutch flag then was red, blue and white, so too were the colors of the hata (actually means flag, but in Nagasaki it means this kite).
Powdered glass mixed with a fixative such as rice flour/egg is saturated on part of the line in order to "cut" other hatas out of the air.
This kite and kites in general are a BIG thing in Japan!

Also most pleasant when flown in the middle of a quiet mustard field in long ago California, as I recall.

Sorry you asked, eh? {:>

Funny, isn't it? All the Euro-pee-ons have done in the three years since we started detaining "[bigoted word]s" at Gitmo is to lament their detention there. Now that we've let a few of them out, they have repaid their Euro supporters for their undying support by threatening their leaders.

So who gets the last laugh?

Some more on Slimane. Algerian father, Danish mother. He was ostensibly in Afghanistan to receive terrorist education to be used against the Russians in Chechnya (think Beslam) when he was interdicted by American forces and send to Guantanamo, where he spend two years. The first thing he says on release (after being flow to Denmark at great expense at the Danish state) is that he has every intention to carry on the jihad against the infidel, interspersed with some anti-Semitic remarks. Slimane is currently on a monthly welfare payment from the state while under education – an education entirely paid by the state. Slimane is preparing a suit against the American government for torture endured during captivity (supposedly before being shipped to Guantanamo, because he has previously stated he was fairly treated there) and wants the government to help him, which it has refused.

I’d like to see Slimane prosecuted for waging war on Danish allies (Russians, Americans) – a case of clear cut treason. However I don’t want to see Slimane prosecuted for these latest remarks. The very last thing we’d want is to shut the mouth of these idiots. We’ve already got three this last few days; this Slimane fellow, and a Mufti who declared on television and in a newspaper that Danish women not properly veiled had only themselves to blame for being raped and a Mullah talking on television about the fairness of stoning women for infidelity and other such blessings from Sharia. This is all very good. People need to know what we’re really dealing with here, what these people hiding behind the Religion of Peace facade are really like. Sometimes the best strategy is not to hurt your opponent. Throw him into the air and he’ll hurt himself when he hit the ground.

…and the week was capped off with yet another immigrant gang-rape where a bunch of Arabs sexually assaulted a Danish girl by forcefully inserting a bottle.

/Rune
Copenhagen, Denmark

A law expert says:
"The statements made about Danish politicians and soldiers being legitimate targets are kept in general, abstract and hypothetical terms. Illegality requires that the statements are connected to a specific crime, meaning the law was not broken." Jørn Vestergaard [lector lic.jur, Copenhagen University of Law]

»Tilkendegivelserne om, at danske politikere og soldater er legitime krigsmål, er holdt i generelle, abstrakte og hypotetiske vendinger. Strafansvar forudsætter, at ytringen knytter sig til en konkret forbrydelse, så straffeloven er ikke overtrådt,« siger Jørn Vestergaard.

Here’s Slimane picture, if you happen upon him on the street do remember he’s a legitimate target.

52 mashiki, 54 grayp, 55 Ann

Consider for the moment what would have been the situation if Arafat had accepted the Clinton-Barak proposals. He would have been sitting on an internationally recognised state of Palestine, with Jerusalem as its capitol. Given that the West does not hold the Arabs to promises that they sign onto, (Egypt and its fake peace is an example), Arafat would have been free to continue the war against Israel, but this time with a state. He would have had all the trappings of state, an army plus other Arab forces clandestinely deployed in Palestine. Meanwhile, Israel would have lost its body - Eretz Israel, and its heart - Jerusalem.

The Jihad after all would not stop, just because Palestinianis had a state. In fact it would be invigorated by orders of magnitude. The Arabs would see that the goal of Isreal's extinction was just a push away.

For the West, and that includes the USA, Arafat would have been seen as a tolerant moderate, and pressure on Israel would increase even further for more compromises.

I could not understand what Barak was doing as he almost liquidated Israel. This would not be apparant immediately, but given the dermographic pressure from within, and the immigration of Palis from Palestine (remember that it would have to be regarded as a friendly state by israel, bound by treaty to help), Israel would have been done for.

Then to my delight, Arafat refused all, all 98% of the Eretz Israel and declared a war. To my predictable satisfaction, Arafat had yet again rescued Israel. Look back in history and see how many times Arafat has rescued Israel. Even Abba Eban recognised that Arafat was the Palestinians worst enemy, and by extention Israel's best friend.

And so it is now. The political situation is getting progresively worse for Arabs/Muslims and Arafat does not see, that so long as he is there, the US will not put any pressure on Israel to negotiate. As time passes and the war on Islamism gathers pace, it may well turn out that Israel may get the opportunity to annexe the West Bank. Seems far fetched at the moment, but who knows what ensues as this global war progresses. For the Palestinians, they have lost the opportunity to have a state, and that opportunity will not come again so long as Arafat is in charge.

Oh no. Please do not remove Arafat. So long as he is chairman of the PA, there will be no Palestine. The existence of Palestine is a death notice for Israel. And who knows what the future brings as the "WoT" progresses.

re: 72

For the Palestinians, they have lost the opportunity to have a state, and that opportunity will not come again so long as Arafat is in charge.

In fact, it is my hope that that boat has left for good. The political situation in Isreal has changed from 'peace at any price', even upto giving up Jerusalem, to a realisation that a state for the Arabs in the West Bank, is not going to give them peace. This realisation is hopefully gaining greater currency as the stated position of Hamas and other Jihadi groups becomne more available for examination (Thank you MEMRI).

So in Israel's moment of greatest danger since its founding, the Clinton-Barak Oslo peace process, Arafat rescued Israel. Thank you Arafat. The least we can do is to let him live out the rest of his life, confined to isolation, as he is now.

I can't imagine that saying certain people were "legitimate terror targets" could be interpreted as inciting violence. Those words really mean to promote peace and tolerence in the world.

Like "jihad."

DP111
When Bush refused to deal with Arafat, I thought, "Good, now we can kill him". Then when the fence really started to take shape, and I could see the onset of civil war, I thought, "Even better, his own people will kill him." And they still may do just that. Now someone in the Jordanian gov't has complained that the fence jeopardizes the stability of Jordan, while recognizing Israel's right to construct it. I'm sure Egypt is worried also.

My premise is that civil war among the Palis is excellent. If Arafat is taken out, civil war will accelerate. Your premise seems to be that with Arafat gone, someone reasonable would come to the fore. That is where we differ. The only person the Palis would consider 'reasonable' would still be genocidal towards the Jews.

I am ambiguous about a Pali state. All your points are valid, but I also think it's problematical to declare war on 'refugee camps'. And war with these people, once and for all, is what is required. Utter defeat of the Palis will be what settles the Palestinian/Israel 'problem'.

Gee. I'm in a bloodthirsty mood this morning!

75 grayp

Your premise seems to be that with Arafat gone, someone reasonable would come to the fore. That is where we differ. The only person the Palis would consider 'reasonable' would still be genocidal towards the Jews.

True, but why take a risk. The devil we know is adequate to safeguard Israel. It is conceivble that a real smart operator rises to the top, ruthless within the PA and smooth and suave to the rest of the world. A real Taqqiya operator. As for genocidal inclinations toward Jews, well that pretty much encompasses the entire Muslim world. It is the writings in the Koran that define that inclination and nothing will change that. These are binding on each Muslim.

I for one, prefer the likes of Abu Hamza. Atleast he is honest in what the goals of Islam are and says so openly. The moderates of Islam are much the worse, as they beguile the West, while all the while the demographic threat grows. And as before, the written texts in the koran remain and are always binding, and the moderate muslims know that. They are the main deceivers.

#76 DP111
Understood.

And as before, the written texts in the koran remain and are always binding, and the moderate muslims know that. They are the main deceivers.

Unicorns. Moderate Muslims. They are the ones who allow us to sink into the comfort of self-deceit. I've been fighting a rear-guard action on this blog to debunk that notion on the basis of misogyny, using a KKK analogy. It's helped a bit, but I think I can only use that hammer for so long before I get myself into scroll-over territory, especially for European readers.

And for them, I don't think the 'Chicks with Guns' promo is going to work.

grayp (#75)

Utter defeat of the Palis will be what settles the Palestinian/Israel 'problem'.

Agreed. The Palestinians have to be made to understand that they will never win. The issue is that the Islamists don't compromise. It's either their way or they'll kill you. They must be, as you say, utterly defeated.

It's the criminals deciding what is "legitimate".

After four days the BBC has just picked up on this story:

Danish detainee 'to join rebels'

A Danish man released from the US detention camp at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba has said he wants to join Muslim Chechens in their fight against Russia.

Slimane Hadj Abderrahmane, 31, said his deal with US authorities not to take part in terrorist activity could be treated as "toilet paper".

He has caused a stir with various comments since his release in February.

On Sunday, he said Danish support for the Iraq war would justify making its leaders the targets of attacks.

Mr Abderrahmane, who has a Danish mother and Algerian father, was held in Guantanamo without charge or trial for more than two years, suspected of training in Afghanistan to fight in Chechnya.

He has claimed he was in a training campaign to join Islamic fighters in Chechnya when he was arrested in Pakistan and transferred to Guantanamo in February 2002.

He was not charged upon his return to Denmark.

'Send him back'

In an interview on Danish television, he said he would go in hiding and then "try to find a way to Chechnya".

"I am going to Chechnya and fight for the Muslims," he said.

"The Muslims are oppressed in Chechnya and the Russians are carrying out terror against them."

He told the reporter that a contract signed with US authorities when he was released, agreeing not to take part in terrorist activities or conspire against the US or their allies, was worthless.

"This document is toilet paper for the Americans if they want it," he said, adding that he was "not afraid of being thrown in jail" by Danish authorities.

Denmark backed the US in the strikes against Iraq.

Danish Justice Minister Lene Espersen said Mr Abderrahmane's comments represented "a new situation that the law enforcement authorities must reconsider".

The head of the far-right Danish People's Party, Pia Kjaersgaard, said the government should hand Mr Abderrahmane back to the US.