First?

figures

What about the "Summit Doctrine"?

shocking !

But what about his "plan"?!

I hope Holbrooke said it with style. Style appears to be the essential element in this election now.

Why is everyone acting like it would be impossible to get foreign cooperation to start a war? It worked for Gulf War I, didn't it?

OT

London mosque link to Beslan

A member of the group responsible for the Beslan school massacre last month is a British citizen who attended the infamous Finsbury Park mosque in north London,

Sure there is. The Kerry Doctrine is "bluster, withdraw, surrender to the UN, go windsurfing."

Kerry's doctrine is one of those choose-your-own-ending books...and kerry has got himself caught in a loop where he gets sent to page 75..then back to 12...then to 75 again etc. etc.

^ the above joke is not as good as it seemed in my head

gime a break...it's late in the evening after a long day of campaigning...

what?...11 in the morning?

Great. You guys are lucky. Holbrooke is my future boss...

More OT (sorry to take your minds off Kerry - or perhaps you might appreciate that?!)

n.A.T.o. - a pop singer dressed as a suicide-bomber - causes outrage

n.A.T.o.? Perhaps it should have been U.N.

The Russian teenage singer, known only as n.A.T.o, performs with her face covered by a veil in front of screens broadcasting images from al-Jazeera, the Arab television station, interspersed with flashing words such as "al-Qaeda", "Iraq" and "Nasdaq".

Up early this morning, eh? Must have a pot of coffee on and ready to post up a storm before going riding!

godfrey: By God I think he's got it!

It's not the he doesn't have one, he can't have one because it would offend someone in the Bush bashing coalition that supports him.

In the article, Holbrooke says:

Richard Holbrooke, a foreign policy adviser to Kerry, said Kerry was stating long-standing United States policy, which is that "you don't give up the right to be preemptive, but you make sure the decisions you've made can be backed up by the facts and have support domestically and internationally."

In other words, if you don't have international support, Kerry won't pre-emptively strike. Bush is on target here.

However, the Bushies are so incompetent that none of their spokespersons quoted noted the obvious give-away in Holbrooke's statement which proves the truth of Bush's charges.

9/beneficial,

Sounds good to me. Kerry's a nuanced, post-modern-art kinda guy, after all.

Richard Holbrooke, a foreign policy adviser to Kerry, said Kerry was stating long-standing United States policy, which is that "you don't give up the right to be preemptive, but you make sure the decisions you've made can be backed up by the facts and have support domestically and internationally."

You may not give up the "right" to act preemptively Senator, but your policy off immediately discontinuing work on bunker busting munitions will take away our ability to take preemptive action.

And I guess the 78 Senators who voted the President authority to use force in Iraq isn't actually a show of support because the important people like you voted against huh?

Canuckistan #6

The Disney World approach (It's a Small World After All) to foreign policy would be just dandy in a world composed of democracies run by rational, well-intentioned adults.

Unfortunately, the world is utterly different. It is composed of 90% dictatorships of varying degrees of severity and Islamo-thugocracies. The remaining 10% is divided between western nations who understand how the world really is and those who have been emasculated by the conflicts of the preceding century. The United States already has grownups who understand on its side.

We don't need the rest and that includes Canada.

Canuckistan says,

Why is everyone acting like it would be impossible to get foreign cooperation to start a war? It worked for Gulf War I, didn't it?

You mean the war Kerry used as an example of proper "coalition building", the war he also he voted against?

Did Clinton meet the Kerry Doctrine when he bombed Kosovo? It seems to me Kerry is going to alienate quite a few lawmakers who disagree with him about asking permission of other countries and the U.N. for past and future necessary military intervention. I have wondered how many Democratic lawmakers besides Zell are going to vote for Bush. You don't hear much from big D.C. names making pitches for Kerry. But then, I have to say the same about Bush. Maybe I just don't see the introductions to their speeches to see who else is on the podium with them.

The Kerry doctrine: Fake but nonexistant.

Geepers

It cost GHB 21 billion in bribes to build a coalition for Gulf war I. And that only held because he didn't actually topple Saddam or do that threatened the existing power structures of the Middle East, like talking about democracy or fighting Islamic terrorists.

It's too late for that. I suppose if we agree to bomb New York and Washington DC, then we can build a new coalition with our "allies". 'Cause that's what it would take.

Kerry has plans, does the diplomacy better, (whatever that means) is nuanced, is summit focused, absolutely an antiwar candidate, and grovels well. What do you mean there is no Kerry Doctrine?

There is a Kerry Doctrine and it is The Doctrine of Deliberate Helplessness

Slightly OT..

The Pumpkin Wizard has a good John Kerry cutout..

Try not to scare the kids too much..

Back To BeanTown, Bee-otch!

#11 RC

From your link:

The Moscow "terror concert", timed to coincide with the anniversary of the World Trade Center attacks, included invitations designed like aeroplane tickets. The event was condemned as "sick" by Muscovites who were angered by the apparently frivolous depiction of a suicide bomber days after the Beslan school atrocity in which hundreds of Russian children and adults died.

I am surprised this concert was allowed to go on simply for security reasons and the performer escaped uninjured.

Where's Madeleine "I wear big brooches so don't f--k we me fellas" Albright when you need her!?

Retro Kerry Doctrine:
Did Pres. Wilson(D)1917 meet the criteria [NO]? FDR(D)[NO]? Truman(D)[NO]? JFK(D)VN & Bay of Pigs[NO]? Johnson(D)[NO]?
Ike(R)is ommitted, as he inherited Korea.

So why should Nixon(R)? (Expanding inherited VN)RWR(R)Genada? GHWB(R)Panama?

#18 Massachusetts Gothic

but some of us canucks really DO wanna help...go leafs go

#1 bolivar

First?

And here I thought you were an adult.

Gulf War I, the war John Kerry voted against, passed the global test.

Saddam got busy after that war to form a coalition of the bribed and coerced: French, Germany, and Russia. We could never get them to go along with the U-S. Their economic interests were at stake.

#6 Canuckistan

Why is everyone acting like it would be impossible to get foreign cooperation to start a war? It worked for Gulf War I, didn't it?

And the price that we not take out Saddam was too high.

Even getting England on board this time made us go to the the UN which was a bad mistake.

#6 Canuckistan

Until you lefties begin to wrap your minds around oil-for-food and UN corruption there will be no reasoning with you in any real sense of the word. Maybe we'll be able to reason with you the way I reason with my dogs. Just lie down and sleep, boy.

I can't believe it. I made the big time! Fox News put my CBS Information minister on the air on Chris' Wallace show! I feel so proud.

[Link: www.motgs.com...]

[Link: www.motgs.com...]

BTW, I'm making a bleg--anyone who saw Fox News Sunday please email me with any details on the flyer. I was so jazzed by seeing it on the air I completely forgot to write down who created the flyer, etc.

If there's no Kerry doctrine, then that explains why this is the plan posted at johnkerry.com.

#36

Exactly.

#36

If there's no Kerry doctrine, then that explains why this is the plan posted at johnkerry.com.

You could at least link to johnkerry.com.

John Bono (#35),

Saw that this morning. Pretty cool. Congrats.

It's not up yet, but for future reference here's the link to Cris Wallace's Stories You Won't Find Anywhere Else.

Melissa (#36),

Your link doesn't work.

Geepers (#40)

Reread what I wrote.

#36 Melissa - not had your coffee this morning (indeed, perhaps ever)?

Great plan!

1. Internationalize.

a. We can do this, especially since Germay, France, and Russia all said recently that they will in no way ramp up there efforts.

b. We shold definitely have a summit with the Arabs. Clearly Syria and Iran and Lebanon need to be heard.

c. NATO isn't involved already either, is it?

2. Train Iraqis. We're not doing this already, are we?

a. Let's double classroom training time. Excellent idea -- much can be done with books and chalk, as John learned at Yale, and this will speed things up.

3. Move forward with reconstruction. As opposed to moving backwards...?

a. We should definitely "cut through the red tape" and re-evaluate the whole effort. Those two ideas are perfectly compatible.

4. Hold elections next year. We're not doing this already are we?

Above all, give other countries a stake in this -- yes, let's have over 1000 Americans die for a free Iraq and then use American tax dollars to pay France to rebuild it. Do you realize how popular we will be in the global community then?!

Sure there is a Kerry Doctrine.

Now if only Kerry could make up his mind about what it is...

Geepers--

I am pretty happy about it. At least 100 times more people saw that picture today than have visited my new site and my old site combined.

So yes, you could say that I'm a bit happy, though a bit frustrated. I tried to contact Fox News, and got shunted into voice mail. I also contacted the RNC, and got the same treatment. So, I bleg.

Mellisa (#38),

Reread what I wrote.

Um, how is that going to get your link to work for me?

#45 Geepers

Hey dude! Quit being so intolerant. The important thing is that she tried. And John Kerry's 4 point plan is groovy.

John Bono (#44),

Bleg away. ;-)

#30 Beneficial

Yes, I know some Canadians have not taken leave of their senses, but they seem to reside for the most part in Alberta.

I hope you understand, though, that the rhetoric of the Chretien and current regimes has made a lot of Americans - hitherto wildly pro-Canadian - wonder at all the hostility directed at us.

That said. I love going to Canada and will spend Christmas this year at Lake Louise.

Manee-Man (#46),

LOL.

John Kerry's "detailed" plan is like "Hey, no shit." It's what I say when I'm at the top of a ladder with a chain saw and someone says "Be careful", "Yeah, good advice."

Page not found was supposed to be a joke. Kind of like the Kerry doctrine, the Kerry plan, and the Kerry candidacy. I intentionally went to a dead link. Sorry.

BTW, I've already had 3 cups of coffee today. Very strong French roast.

The real reason why there is no kerry doctrine...

It failed the global test!

Here's another essential truth: I just watched Howard Kurtz' 'Reliable Sources' and he had the clip of Dan Rather onstage with Peter Jennings and Brokaw (who defended Rather quite vigorously). Ra^ther was defensive and huffed about 'people trying to prevent good solid journalism from getting the story out'! So that's the way it's going to be. Rather is going to stonewall and huff about being the victim of a national right-wing campaign. So don't view CBS product or buy or use their sponsors (of any program) goods or services until they take this seriously.

Brokaw went ooonnn about the viciousness of the 'vendetta' as he called it by the bloggers.

To his credit, Jennings didn't climb on that 'kiss CBS and Rather's backside' bandwagon. He simply said: "I don't think we should judge a person's whole career on one incident." Which is as good a way as any of saying "You did it but you've had a long career to be proud of so we won't make an issue of this one incident."

But I wish they'd just come out and tell Rather that. Still, I took Jenning's comment as damning Rather with faint praise.

There wasn't any consensus on Reliable Sources about Dan Rather's position. Just an acknowledgment that this is where things stand.

Mellisa, Ah. The Kerry Plan. Gotcha. :-)

#50 Geepers

Yeah, most of Kerry is "be careful with the chainsaw -- maybe you can get France to help you with that -- is the instruction manual in French? Oh well, I never waver!" stuff.

Except maybe the part about Iraqi security trainees will have to spend more time in the classroom. Let's see now, John, would that be Manicure 101 or Master Debating Techniques?

Geeps:

Right. Now we're on the same page.

Mel: sorry, I thought you were one of the following:

teen Kerry supporter

French

Canadian

Terry McAuliffe

Manee-Man (#55),

That's it. Cuz you know when there are whole cities that are "no go" zones the obvious first step of a strong decisive leader is to suggest more classroom training for border guards.

The Kerry Doctrine:

White flag in the horizon instead of the Star-Spangled Banner.

Soldier holding AK-47 with both hands in the air, drowning in quicksand (per MoveOn.org ad).

Surrendered yet comfortable getting the latest metrosexual manicure.

Enough said.

Holbrook is lying through his teeth... The Kerry Doctrine is one of inaction, appeasement, and subordination of American national security interests to those of the "international community" (a.k.a. the "global test").

The Kerry doctrine does in fact exists. It is a three-part strategy that ultimately leads to failure.

1. Help your enemy build their nuclear arsenal (Give
nuclear fuel to the Iranians in the hope they won't
make weapons grade plutonium out of it).

2. Handcuff America's effort to modernize their
weaponry to meet changing and challenging
circumstances (Stop America from developing
bunker busting nuclear weapons).

3. SURRENDER!

Damn!

#61 thomassowellfan, you beat me to it. ;-(

As a Vietnam vet, I had a very hard time with American voters electing the draft-dodging, war-protesting Bill Clinton. The idea of that creep as commander-in-chief always galled me to no end. His silly and ineffectual use of American military forces is well documented.

Now, as a Vietnam vet, I'm faced with the truly intolerable prospect of an actual traitor as commander-in-chief. Kerry's statements before that Senate committee in 1971 were outright lies and he knew it! Watch that video and imagine yourself a vet who knows that what Kerry is saying is false.

The man has been nothing more than a dilettante in everything he's ever done.

Also, I guess you could forgive Clinton for never learning how to render a proper military salute but why should Kerry, an actual naval officer, look like he's shading his eyes at a polo match (as he stepped to the podium at the dem convention)?

Somebody give me a bullet to bite on!

# 8, # 24, # 59. Right on.

Of course there is a John JANE Kerry doctrine:

1. Anti nuclear proliferation:
a. Give uranium to Nuclear ayatollahs (After all he is descendant of Shah Abas and prophet Muhammad.

b. Dump our partners in the multi-party talks and UNILATERALLY engage in bi-lateral negotiations with a lying, cheating, unpredictable, despotic left wing tyrant of N. Korea. (I thought Jane Kerry was for building coalitions). DUmp China which has much greater influence on N. Korea, when one day "suddenly" 11 out of say 16 oil pipelines to N. Korea were shut down for "repair" for several days.

2. Iraq

a. Let Sa-damn Hussein in power (during 1st Gulf War and 2nd Gulf war). After all "its the wrong war, the wrong place, the wrong time."

b. Start retreating from Iraq in 6 months and finish in 4 years. The fake but accurate blue print of the exact timetable and the routes of US troop withdrawal will be provided by Dam Rather to CBS affiliate Al-Jazeera TV (talks of merging the two are held in secret) to be given to Osama Bin Ladin.

c. Tell the last soldier who will die in Iraq that he death is worthy for " the wrong war, the wrong place, the wrong time."

3. Let's publicly denounce and criticize Putin of Russia, who is our natural partner in the war on terror (Chechnya , Azerbaijian, Uzbekistan, etc). Remember Beslan.

4. Allied Powers

a. Give medals to our allied soldiers in Iraq for "bribery and coercion"

b. Know thy enemy and study its tactics. The "bribed" soldiers get a free book "Unfit for Command" if they plan to run for office on an anti-war platform in their countries. Also give them free video cameras so they can video tape their "heroism."

5. Appoint Jacque Chirac and Schroeder as HONORARY foreign national security advisers.

6. Mandatory GLOBAL TEST for the employees of the State Department and the Pentagon. The tests must be in French.

7. Ah, and bend over (see the photo of Kerry playing football) so Islamofascists can f*** us well.

If I missed something, please add.