Oooh oooh, Hit UCSD next!!! Hit UCSD next!!!

finally some good news today!

Related to their threats of violence? Or possibly something else?

I hope the hard drive is being treated as a biohazard.

Its nice to know somebody reads this stuff.

The reason why the hard drives were taken are unknown.

Bwahahaha

#1 Kragar (proud to be kafir):

UCSD??

I thought it was on request of the Swiss, who claimed some of their undercover types were outed by photos on their site?

ANYONE CARE TO EXPLAIN WHY THIS IS OF IMPORT?

#9 winemaker

ANYONE CARE TO EXPLAIN WHY THIS IS OF IMPORT?

For starters, there are freedom of speech issues.
Then there are national security implications.

For a federal judge to run up against a potential first amendment challenge, there must be a pretty darned good reason or he wouldn't have signed the warrant.

I only hope there was a judge involved. Because if somehow the LLL's can scream Patriot Act! they will work it from now to Nov. 2nd.

Link doesn't work.

Why confiscate a server? Has to be something like copyright violation or threats of violence or evidence of planning a crime.

For what we know there's no evidence of them not taking the rack for repairs and adding a bit of sugar to the story. Or is there?

*sigh*
I wish I could be happy about this. I know the FBI is full of good people struggling mightily to do a good job. But they fuck it up so often... I hope this is not one of those times.

Very good.

Just to point out how cLLLuless the indymedia people are - The indymedia site says

The FBI issued an order to Rackspace in the US (Indymedia's provider with offices in the US and London) to remove physically one of our servers. The order was so short term that Rackspace had to give away our hard drives in the UK.
The servers hosted numerous local IMCs. If you find a site is down: that might be the reason
The reason why the hard drives were taken are unknown.

There's no way the FBI just "issued an order" This had to go through a court, where the FBI had to persuade a judge to issue a subpoena and/or warrant. Probably both U.S. and U.K. courts.

"...or threats of violence or evidence of planning a crime."

I thing we have a winner.

#12 JAA

Why confiscate a server? Has to be something like copyright violation or threats of violence or evidence of planning a crime.

Speculation doesn't help. Could be anything from hosting spammers to hosting Hamas. Let's wait and see.

But I'm guessin' the Feds have all their ducks in a row. Three weeks before an election? They'd be nutz to go anywhere near any 'grey area'.

They can remove the server. They can quarantine the data. They can crack the code. But they will never, ever, get the stink out.

Re: Post #16

Er, "think" even.

OT from BlogsForBush: Kerry's First Global Test

I love the "personally packed the luggage" comment.

+++

John Kerry pressed for the President to pass a test before taking action against terrorists,

"While I stated that my initial inclination was to support the President, I pointed out that two essential tests had to be met in determining whether or not the U.S. action was appropriate. First, the United States had to have irrefutable evidence directly linking the regime to a terrorist act and, second, our response should be proportional to that act."

But this wasn't 2004, it was 1986. This was John Kerry's response to Ronald Reagan's military actions against Libya. It gives a very interesting insight into what John Kerry thinks of fighting terrorists.

Admitting that the evidence tying Tripoli to the disco bombing was "irrefutable," the U.S. had failed the proportionality test, Kerry argued - "It is obvious that our response was not proportional to the disco bombing and even violated the Administrations own guidelines to hit clearly defined terrorist targets, thereby minimizing the risk to innocent civilians. ... "There are numerous other actions we can take, in concert with our allies, to bring significant pressure to bear on countries supporting or harboring terrorists."

You see, even in the face of admitting "irrefutable" evidence linking a country to terrorism against the U.S., John Kerry was still calling for sanctions, rather than action. John Kerry keeps reiterating his red herring argument that Saddam was not tied to 9/11. His stance in 1986 persents a very clear indication that even if Saddam had personally packed the luggage for Mohammad Atta on September 11, 2001, John Kerry would've still opposed military action in favor of sanctions.

#17 TenRing 

Could be anything from hosting spammers to hosting Hamas.

Or perhaps a whole new level of evil:
hosting Hamas spammers!

#10 Iron Fist:

are chewing on the carpet over this

Again with the South Park references...

;-)

justdanny:

Apologies if I was a bit of a dik on the "Canada" thread yesterday - I was sick as a dog and in a poor mood.

I'm sure it's just because they were uploading the latest Dixie Chicks' hot, "Banjos 'n Fiddles Go Hip-Hop" album...

JM

7 Anne Elk (not AN elk)

UCSD hosts the server for San Diego Indymedia.

One server...like taking one knife off a jihadist...you know they have plenty more to hurt people with

There's currently a 403 forbidden error on indymedia.org.uk.

Ah well, I will have to go cold turkey on being called a 'zionist troll' for a while.

I'm racking my brains thinking which, of the posts that were on there last time I looked, might have prompted the seizure (most of them are enough to provoke a seizure of a different kind, naturally). I'm guessing it was a particularly nasty one about 'resistance groups' in Iraq.

Well, here's hoping the Indymedia Nazi scumbags are going to wake up at 5am to the sound of their front doors splintering and Special Branch officers charging up the stairs to drag them off to Belmarsh.

Rackspace has hosted a number of Jihadist websites as well as Indymedia - this has not gone unnoticed, see here and here.

...emo...

Fuck Belmarsh...I want people like this to be dragged to a very cold wet mountain in Brecon by members of British special forces that are based there and taught survival the hard way...

Didn't IndyMedia publish the names and numbers of delegates at the RNC convention?

The Julius Streicher precedent can be logically applied to Indymedia, if anyone has the balls to do it.

#29

Can't remember if it was them or DU but one of them hacked into protestwarrior and published the emails of all members and the home and work addresses and phone numbers of several prominent members.

A Rackspace server in Houston was home to the Hisb'allah website hizbulla.org, owned by Mohamad Hejazi.

#27 Glen Wishard 
Rackspace has hosted a number of Jihadist websites as well as Indymedia - this has not gone unnoticed, see here and here.

I think you're on to something important here. It could be that this seizure has nothing to do with Indymedia, but rather has everything to do with the jihadi sites hosted thereon. It was reported on Indymedia because they happened to share the same server as the jihadis, but that doesn't mean the seizure was because of Indymedia.

Consensus on Slashdot (I'm not a regular reader BTW) is that the raid was prompted by the publication of the GOP list.

shiplord kirel--what is that Streicher analogy--

Alright, covering all the bases here.

Before you conspiracy theorists get too upset... @Slashdot

501(c)3 organizations are prohibited by the tax exempt tax laws from making any endorsement of, or any published statement against any candidate for an upcoming election.

This all could be related to IRS suspecting a violation of tax law.

How feasible does that sound?

#24 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

UCSD is such a lovely campus - especially the Dr. Seuss exhibit but their security is truly lousy - surely Indymedia is there because the servers were cracked and not because they were invited to enjoy the freedom of a free college education.

#31 Rayra

to help you out, some of IMC - San Diegos Greatist Hits:

Be American

I don't know about you, but I hate bushite rapists and torturers celebrated by corporate American Talk Radio news censors. As enemies of God and all that is great with this world, the bushite bombers should be called out for a man to man fight for their core beliefs, or be rightly killed as better dead than allowed to continue in our names.

even more when I get home to my archive of article they've posted. Basically a bunch of "troops are rapists, support the Jihadis, down with the US, its a class war" load of LLL crap.

Help me out here, there are some complaints about free speech, and the Patriot act. Isn't this a british site? last i checked american laws don't apply there.

#38 Anne Elk

IMC is being hosted on server in the UCSD network and are considered to be a "student organization". The actual disposition of their server is in debate, and with a little work, will be gone soon.

#37 Capa Negra:

Unless you're the NAACP...

zombie -

I think it's almost certainly not related to Indymedia.

Internet Haganah info on Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade website and another Hisb'allah website, both hosted by Rackspace.

And Rackspace picked up a Hamas site for children that was booted off a Russian server.

 
Huge Explosion at Egyptian Hotel

Didn't post on the other entry because 300 some odd posts take too long to download. But I will say this, I'm pissed off at recent Drudge Headlines concerning Israel: Hotel Blast at Red Sea...Update

What about fu...king "Dozemns of Israelis killed Red Sea Resort. The man never mentions dead Israelis. He's started to sound like the F---King BBC.

Drudge is an A-hole!

#40 Billhedrick

IMC would like to say this is a free speech issue. When they take money and have connections to terrorists, it becomes a security issue.

Also OT, from OpinionJournal:

+++

MoveOn: Osama's Innocent!

From an e-mail we received yesterday from Eli Pariser of MoveOn.org:

We're on a roll. In last night's vice presidential debate, Dick Cheney was angry, misleading and petulant; Edwards took him on with warmth, clarity and the facts. CBS News reported this morning that Edwards "continued the Democratic ticket's winning streak," beating Cheney by 13 percentage points in a post-debate poll of uncommitted voters.

Again and again, Cheney tried to mislead the public about the war in Iraq and our economic problems here at home. He even claimed that he'd never met Edwards before when he had, in public, twice. But John Edwards wouldn't let him get away with it: when Cheney tried once again to link al Qaeda and 9/11, Edwards said, "Mr. Vice President, you are still not being straight with the American people," and explained that there was absolutely no connection.

If MoveOn doesn't think al Qaeda is linked to 9/11, who does it think was behind the attack?

#41 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

How nice.

First pay your taxes to support the university, then pay your student union fees.

In return, get unlimited access to Indymedia.

CHAULK ONE UP FOR ZOG.

LOL

#42 Rock

Please clarify. I don't really understand a word of what I linked to (except IRS) and don't get the NAACP reference.

#49 Rayra

LOL, you're probably right. It would be just like the IMC crowd to think they were at the center of a grand conspiracy when they were nothing but idiots in the wrong place and the wrong time.

Lemme think...

Election coming up...

Suspicions that AQ may try to influence...

Lots of communications via internet...

Sites and/or servers (Charles, help?) can store or redirect messages...

What better way to take down a communications network (or just hassle it to upset their aim) than to snag the servers?

Not to mention the potential harvest within.

Feds to Indymedia, "Here's your server back - we were after some bad guys hosted by the same...CRASH...darn, those servers get slippery. Didn't know they'd split open that easily. Well, just submit your bill and we'll buy you a new one."

Message from Rackspace to Indymedia (from Infoshop, a anarchist armpit site):

Tuesday October 5th

"I apologize for the delay in responding. I have been trying to get a hold of the FBI agent I spoke with before, but haven't been able to at this time. As the request originated with the Swiss police, I can only speculate on what they saw or what they were concerned about. However, at this time, I have received no further communications from either the FBI or the Swiss authorities, so I feel like we can close this this issue."

Today the FBI seized Global Indymedia servers; however it is unclear if this is related to the Nantes issue or is a second FBI concern within the past week.

(14:20) Rackspace has issued a "no comment" response concerning the FBI's actions.

(15:25) New list of IMCs affected: ambazonia, uruguay, andorra, pl, wester mass, radio, uk, antwerpen, nice, nantes, lille, euskalherria, liege, oost-vlaanderen, belgrade, west-vlaanderen, portugal, prague, marseille, galiza, basque, germany media, italy, and brasil.

(16:10) Rackspace has issued the following comments:

I have been in contact with the regional director responsible for the federal order. He has stated that I can not provide any information regarding the order. I am going to follow up with our law enforcement liason to verify this, however.

Regards,
Jennifer O'Connell, Rackspace AUP

Followed by this:

Unfortunately, we have received a federal order to provide your hardware to the requesting agency. We are complying at this time. Our datacenter technicians are building you a new server which will be online as soon as possible. Your account manager will notify you once the new server is online and available.

I apologize for abruptness of this. However, we are required to comply with all federal orders of this nature.

Please let us know if there is anything that we can do to make this easier on you.

Heh heh, hope the FBI brought along a toxic substances disposal unit.

OT -- "Global Test Poker with a rigged deck"

Saddam and the French Connection

"Memos from Iraqi intelligence officials, recovered by American and British inspectors, show the dictator was told as early as May 2002 that France - having been granted oil contracts - would veto any American plans for war. " Scottsman Online Oct. 6

Meanwhile Late 2002 - first 3 months 2003, While U.S. troops cooked in the Gulf and offshore in the Mediteranean for months, Over U.N. dithering ...

finally March 6, 2003, same day de Villepin promised Colin Powell he'd work with him on the Security Counsel --

"We will not allow a resolution to pass that authorizes resorting to force," French Foreign Minister Dominique de Villepin said at a press conference. "Russia and France, as permanent members of the Security Council, will assume their full responsibilities on this point. "

Oooo Jacque, Jacque, Say it isn't sooo...

French Whore A$$holes

Also Coming to a Shell Station near You, French Gas

From the people who manipulated & cooked our troops in the gulf offshore for months playing stonewall games --

Executives at French oil major Total have been detained for questioning as part of an investigation into transfers of millions of dollars in suspected bribes to win oil development rights in Russia and Iraq.

French Total Headquaters Raided in Bribery Probe

...More ...

Know I understand why Algerians put Bombs in Paris Subways Foie Gras anyone ?

Looks like Naomi Klein has been spending too much time in the Iraqi sun:

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

It was an instructive lesson about who Sadr actually is: not an anti-imperialist liberator, as some have cast him, but someone who wants foreigners out so that he can control large portions of Iraq's population himself.

Progressives should oppose the attack on Sadr because it is an attack on the possibility of a democratic future.

It may be connected to Indymedia after all ...

The FBI contacted Rackspace on September 22nd and complained about a post to Indymedia Nantes, info here.

The indymedia post has been deleted so the link to Indymedia Nantes on that page does not work.

#11 TenRing

#9 winemaker

ANYONE CARE TO EXPLAIN WHY THIS IS OF IMPORT?

For starters, there are freedom of speech issues.
Then there are national security implications.

For a federal judge to run up against a potential first amendment challenge, there must be a pretty darned good reason or he wouldn't have signed the warrant.

I only hope there was a judge involved. Because if somehow the LLL's can scream Patriot Act! they will work it from now to Nov. 2nd.

From a comparative legal jurisprudential angle, I think it's telling that it was a UK server, done in the UK (sourced on the posts here). he hosting company may be American, but if the physical servers are located off US soil... interesting.

#46 Rock
Hmmm... the JooosNeoCons? I wonder...

Lysander

More OT: According to OpinionJournal, the car bombing of the Pakistani militants was influenced by an Onion headline: "Organizers Fear Terrorist Attacks on Upcoming al-Qaeda Convention" --headline, the Onion, Sept. 22

Also, Philly.com has a post-debate poll up showing 99% for Edwards!

The Internet Strikes Again! :)

Want to fight the hatred first hand in LA? Invitation to Studio City Rally

Seems I remember a certain thread where lgf had been told the "feds" are watching (as if a threat) and almost to a person, every poster said GOOD, the feds need to know what we're talking about.

Just noting the difference. And so many people think both sides are just hte same in their "hate and extremism."

#46 Rock

Looks like top notch professionals over at Moveon.org ... Must be the same bunch that did that fine job of authenticating those letters for CBS ...

For amusement purposes only:
VOTE FOR HIM BEFORE YOU VOTE AGAINST HIM
Kerry Haters for Kerry:)

Rayra:

Look at this. If you haven't seen it, I found it through google.

" cns3-org-arin (Other)

Name: Cymitar Technology Group, Inc.
Handle: CNS3-ORG-ARIN
Company: Cymitar Technology Group, Inc.
Address: Lorene Office Plaza
Address: 9828 Lorene Lane
City: San Antonio
StateProv: TX
PostalCode: 78216-4450
Country: US
Comment:
RegDate:
Updated: 1998-01-20
Phone: +1-210-892-4000 (Office)
Phone: +1-210-892-4329 (Fax)
Email: hostmaster@cymitar.net

# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2004-10-06 19:10
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.
[Link: www.checkdomain.com...]

#50 Capa Negra:

Oct 25 2000, two weeks before the election, the NAACP (a tax-exempt org) ran an attack ad against Bush, known as the "Byrd Ad". The ad was entirely in closeup of chains dragging along the ground behind a pickup truck.

On June 7, 1998 in Texas my father was killed. He was beaten, chained, and then dragged 3 miles to his death, all because he was black.

So when Governor George W. Bush refused to support hate-crime legislation, it was like my father was killed all over again.

Rayra:

If you google [Link: mtechit.com...]
and then google on [Link: www.cymitar.com...] it takes you right back to Rackspace.com

Have you done any digging into this company yet?

WTF? This is wierd!

#66 Rock

Thanks. I assume they were under the same 501(c)3 denomination?

Explain all, I am not sure what is going on here...

#56 gumble  10/7/2004 05:46PM PST

RE: Naomi Klein - "Progressives should oppose the attack on Sadr because it is an attack on the possibility of a democratic future."

Have the post-modern wobblies ever met a US-hating Totalitarian Despot they didn't like?

Klein and crew. They are the weenie people.

#46 Rock

If MoveOn doesn't think al Qaeda is linked to 9/11, who does it think was behind the attack?

Karl Rove and the PNAC, of course.

#72--

Speaking of Karl, he seems to have turned off the volcano machine under Mt. St. Helens. What's up with that?

JohninAnnArbor,

Saving it up for November 2nd.

;^)

#73 JohnAnnArbor

It was too early, that's all. In two weeks, though...

#74-- That's cuttin' it too close!

Oh, wait...he'll set off ANOTHER one, totally unexpected, Mauna Loa, say...

Speaking of noxious hatred:

Boston will look closer at mosque terror link

By Tom Mashberg
Thursday, October 7, 2004

A group that combats hatred of Jews urged the Islamic Society of Boston yesterday to ``explain or condemn anti-Semitic writings'' by a top official of the society.

In articles published in Arabic newspapers in 2000, Walid A. Fitaihi, a director and treasurer of the society, applauded anti-Israeli violence in Jerusalem as ``a great thing.'' He said Jews have ``killed prophets'' and ``perpetrated the worst of evils and . . . brought the worst corruptions to the earth.''

In a letter to the society, which is building a vast new $22 million mosque in Roxbury, the Anti-Defamation League said it had been waiting quietly since March for an explanation of Fitaihi's remarks.

The league said the response posted on the society's Web site last month, stating Fitaihi's articles were intended to ``condemn particular individuals'' and ``were not meant to incite hatred of an entire faith or people,'' was insufficient.

ADL New England Director Robert Leikind said his group welcomes the presence of the new mosque in Boston but is ``increasingly concerned that the Islamic Society is not disavowing comments by some of its principals.''

Leikind said the ADL had Fitaihi's articles translated before issuing its statements of concern.

Leikind also expressed horror and dismay that the society, on its Web site, defends as ``a voice of moderation'' a radical Muslim cleric who recently called for the killing of ``all Americans in Iraq.''

The cleric, Sheik Yusef al-Qaradawi, was listed as a ``director'' of the Islamic Society on tax forms until late 2003. His name was removed after the Herald reported that Qaradawi is affiliated with such terrorism groups as Hamas, Islamic Jihad and Hezbollah. On its Web site, the society said putting Qaradawi's name on its IRS forms was ``an administrative oversight.''

Yeah, they just put a Muslim Brotherhood Imam on their tax forms by accident. Taqqiya.

#70 Frozen Tundra

Lots of things are happening ;)

If you refer to the note above of you: [Link: www.rackspace.com...] and [Link: www.cymitar.com...] are both behind the same router (traceroute says); and that router belongs to rackspace.

# 77 JAA

He began laying the groundwork last month -- BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Well, historically Republicans are more likely to get out and vote in bad weather. Maybe Rove is saving his energy to make it storm terribly in all the swing/Kerry states on Nov 3*.

* note to all voters: due to the expected large voter turnout for this election, voting will be spread over three days. Those voting for Bush should vote as they normally would on Nov. 2nd; however, Kerry voters will vote Nov. 3rd, and all others on the 4th. Be sure to email everyone you know.

#66
Oh that's rich. All involved got life or death, and that's better than the NAACP would do since they oppose the death penalty.

JohnAnnArbor:

Speaking of Karl, he seems to have turned off the volcano machine under Mt. St. Helens. What's up with that?

It was fun for a while, but it uses a lot of electricity that can be sold to the People's Republic of California at extortionary rates.

#80--

Bonus!

# 81 R

It's just like watching Edison at Menlo Park ...
:-)
:-)

Saw this on the Rackspace.com webpage:
Fanatical Support
Maybe they mean Support for Fanatics. If the Foo shits ... wear it.

Siily piglet, I clicked on the link, took a minute, duh, they took their computers. :-)

# 78 SCJ

"Mayor Thomas M. Menino said yesterday he has asked his staff to take another look at the society's questionable associations, which have been the subject of multiple Herald articles. He said he strongly endorses the new mosque, which is going up on a 2-acre plot along **Malcolm X Boulevard**"

Ya just can't make this stuff up ...
:-)
:-)

#84--

Good point.

I'm not holding my breath.

"Congressmen Request Investigation of AFL-CIO Attacks

Nearly fifty members of Congress have written to Attorney General John Ashcroft to ask for an investigation of a series of coordinated attacks on Bush-Cheney campaign offices yesterday. The attacks were apparently carried out at the direction of the AFL-CIO. In one of the attacks, a campaign volunteer's wrist was broken. Here is the text of the letter:

[Link: powerlineblog.com...]

Rayra #81
I've got all of that bookmarked. Would you like for me to
do some digging on this end?

From weasels expect

Weasel words.

Paris protests to US over bribes claim

Too bad French Whore A$$holes - you weren't asked to be on the inspection team

So you didnt' get to see the Iraqi Intelligence Memos I eh ?

OT I heard something interesting today on Fox. A General who was in charge of a US energy agency during the first Gulf war was talking about the price of fuel and downplaying the recent uptick. And he said something about an outfit that develops estimates of energy usage that are used by different nations. And he said this organization was in Paris. Did anyone else hear this today? I was wondering about the potential for mischief by our French friends. It just seems so coincidental that futures are raising ahead four weeks before the election. And please, no lectures about futures markets, I am just wondering about this French connection, whatever it may be.

Yeah right, here's some good old fashioned lyin' for you.

Bush, Cheney Left Off Mo. County Ballots
Posted by Reynolds
On 10/07/2004 6:33:50 PM PDT

[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]

The AFL/CIO stuff, and some of the more heated rhetoric of the DU/IndyMedia types suggests that if kerry is defeated, there may be a rise in domestic terrorism.

Some of the more radical may even join masjids (if they they are young enough not to make the Muslims suspect they are FBI) and assist in Islamic terror.

Johnny bin-Walker was a prototype of an American loner hooking up with al Qaeda. No doubt, if the invasion after 9-11 hadn't happened, some of the western recruits would have been back in place now ready to attack.

I've seen billboards around Houston, in the poorer neighborhoods "WhyIslam.org".

Kind of scary, but eventually the TSA won't look so stupid searching young white men or even woman. They'll still be PC tards searching 80 year old Asian grandmothers, but we'll have non-ME terrorists soon.

Not to say I want JFnK to win. That would mean Iran and other nations would get nuclear weapons without impediment, Iraq would either become an Iranian satellite or an al Qaeda training base like Afghanistan (or both), and the permanently angry losers that live at DU would eventually get disillusioned with JFnK because he is a Leninist, not a Maoist, or some such crap, and you'd still have young Western idiots either freelancing terror or aiding al Qaeda.

I'm just saying the next 10 years of domestic terror may make the Weatherman, SLA and Black Panthers look tame by comparison.

Further in the Telegraph.U.K. article

France has been abhorred as a traitor in large parts of the American heartland since the countdown to the Iraqi war when Paris led the international opposition.

Mr Bush exploited anti-Gallic feelings on the campaign trail last week when he mocked his rival, Senator John Kerry, for suggesting America needed to consult allies before taking pre-emptive action. "I'll continue to work with our allies," Mr Bush told a rally. "But I'll never submit America's national security to an international test.

"The use of troops to defend America must never be subject to a veto by countries like France."

Barbara Bush I is thinkin "Sic'em George ; get
'em...George H.W. throws more stuff at the TV"

The UN was also under relentless fire from the Right yesterday. Nile Gardiner, an analyst at the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank, said Republicans in Congress saw it as one of the biggest foreign policy scandals in years.

"This will have a huge impact on how Americans view the UN and Security Council members such as France and Russia," he said.

Nooo ! ya think so ?

OT

You can see Florida's next tropical cyclone offshore Tampico on Brownsville, TX long range doppler radar.

Satellite shows most thunderstorms sheared to northeast of center.

So this has a good chance of becoming "Tropical Storm Matthew", but probably won't become a hurricane.

USAFR 53rd Weather Recon WC-130J Super Hercules Hurricane Hunter found a closed 1007 mb low, with the center temperature at flight level 26C compared to 23C at the perimeter of the system, so this is a warm core cyclone, but the highest winds recorded only 20 knots, so system not classified as a tropical cyclone.

#98 Ed Abu Gomex

(BTW -- I used to live off H59, in Humble, one click north of FM 1960 and worked down on Post Oak Blvd. My two most successful pups to date are native Houston-ians. But after Hurricane Alicia and the Oil crash of Jan 86 and the siren song of Kalleefornia...)

You said --

Johnny bin-Walker was a prototype of an American loner hooking up with al Qaeda. No doubt, if the invasion after 9-11 hadn't happened, some of the western recruits would have been back in place now ready to attack.

Whooboy...

Part of my current Territory is "John Walker Lind - American Taliban Country" Marin County. The left coast goofy BS that exists there is finally coming back to bite 'em.

They've had a saying in Bezerkeley for 25 years which applies to Marin as well "Plant any seed here and it shall surely grow".

I don't 'spect any armed conflict out here though ---

...unless you're kind enough to send us some more Texans, 'n tell to be sure to keep their guns in the glove box, as always.

As far as I know, Rackspace rents servers, not just webspace... so whoever Indymedia UK are, they could also be either terror supporters, giving some server space to Al Qaeda, Hamas, etc... or, they're somehow involved in terror or incitement themselves...

Sorry to be so late to the fracas (as Iron Fist will tell you I like to "be there the firstest with the mostest". So I haven't read more than a few postings on this thread. But who or what the fuck are the IndyMedia and what kind of danger does their speech constitute?
I know the FBI had to have a judicial warrant to do what they did and I'd LOVE to know what's in, and what was the basis for that warrant.
I'm really of two minds here (OF COURSE I KNOW WHO INDYMEDIA is) but freedom of speech is perhaps our most important freedom. I agree with grayp at#14.

Rayra #97

Okay, I'll email whatever I find to you.

And while I'm at it, how does publishing the names of the reps to the RNC amount to a crime?

#97 Rayra - bro I'd be sorely disappointed if you didn't

" probably post it on every IMC site"

#105 realwest

a) They're a collective, and
b) Their speech is mostly inoffensive. They could do more damage faking a condition where the goverment is seen as the bad, censoring guy.

Therefore my theory at #13 where they've, let's say, faked their own death. When the smoke clears, well, it's november 10 and no individual (remember, they're a collective) had the fault for the whole fiasco.

#101 Havoc - um, would it be ok if some of us New York City folk came along too (observing the glove boxz rule, of course)?

#46:

If MoveOn doesn't think al Qaeda is linked to 9/11, who does it think was behind the attack

Why, the GOP, of course!

TO ALL AND ESPECIALLY RAYRA) aren't search and seizure warrants matters of public record (like indictments - I know I'm a lawyer and should know this shit, but there's only so much room left in my rather mature mind! If so, shouldn't someone be able to scope out that warrant?

100 Ed Moran: Abu GOMEX aoa 28C 10/7/2004 06:56PM PST

Thanks again.

#98 Ed Moran

I wouldn't expect too much in the way of mayhem from the Left post election or inauguration. These are mostly people who cry when they get mad, after all. Some violence is likely, though. Expect the usual: rock throwing, window smashing, flag burning--hell, they did that after Bush's last inauguration. In some areas it could well go beyond that but the fact is that the Left in America has never been very good at high-end professional grade revolutionary violence. The Weathermen did little beyond plant bombs and hide out, a tradition mostly followed by today's Earth First!/Earth Liberation Front types. I've always wondered why the '60s Left here never spawned any groups to compare with the ones in Europe--Red Army Faction, Red Brigades and the like. I think it comes down to the fact that those were all spetsnaz auxiliaries, financed and trained indirectly by the USSR through the PFLP and the East Germans. None of that was available to our Lefties, though I do sort of wonder why Castro never offered any such help to them. Could be he knew better than to push his luck that far.

#114 Rayra - Once again I'm in your debt. Had to spend some more time in the hospital lately and didn't know about addresses, harassment and etc.
And while I'm aware that there are sealed" indictments, it seems to me that the glue on some of these (e.g., O.J. Simpson) is not quite as strong as it is in others. Just wishful thinking on my part, I guess.
Anyway, thanks again for straitening me out!!!

Indymedia free speech? Yeah, like the religion of peace.

Ever hear of Craig Rosebraugh? The muffin man? You can read his Manifesto on this Indymedia server.

Portland Indymedia needs to be (and has been) thoroughly investigated. Most of them are, latte sipping, trust funders and brainwashed Eco-idiots that posse no real threat but a few of them are true scumbag anarchists. The problem with people like Craig is that they have NO BALL but the kool aid drinker suck it up and ask for more. Research this little attention whore.

Hey Craig, StumpTown is about the only place you could write crap like 'Legitimacy of Political Violence' without getting your ass kicked. But then again, maybe the hard working guy you just peddled past on your little bicycle while wearing your crap brown uniform, is a blogger who knows who are what you are and what you advocate. Maybe it's not the Government that Indymedia has to worry about.

But then again.. We Are The Government.

Some good news today... We need it!

This is a picture of the warrior for change, Craig Rosebraugh, from my previous post. Com'on. This guy is advocating violence! The only thing violent this boy has seen is a bowel movement after too many muffins.

This happened in the United Kingdom, no?

No lefties can scream about the Patriot Act on this one.

United Kingdom
No lefties

LOL. OK.

Cough... Indy Media Watch

#98 Ed Moran

...and the permanently angry losers that live at DU would eventually get disillusioned with JFnK because he is a Leninist, not a Maoist, or some such crap,...

heh heh heh...Stop, gasp,you're killin' me...

When will you people relaize that free speech cuts both ways. Your celebration of the siezing of servers containing different voices from yours sickens me. People who are truly patriotic don't cheer in delight when the free speech of others holding opposing viewpoints is stifled. Tables eventually turn.

post#39 -- Kragar

"I don't know about you, but I hate bushite rapists and torturers celebrated by corporate American Talk Radio news censors. As enemies of God and all that is great with this world, the bushite bombers should be called out for a man to man fight for their core beliefs, or be rightly killed as better dead than allowed to continue in our names. "

Am I understanding this right? The LLLs wants to throw down with the likes of the USMC and the Screaming Eagles?

I'll buy that for a dollar!

Lance Stein, any comments on this or is it okay if free speech is violated as long as it fits with your views?

Good to know that our FBIi is getting into some of the OBVIOUS terror related web sites...I hope kos is next.

OT:
Don't know if anyone has seen the new video from JibJab. Here's the link.
[Link: atomfilms.shockwave.com...]
Click on the "Watch Film" on the left hand side.
It's as good or better than their first one.
You'll love Senator (Gone) Lightweight.

#29 lsd -- "Didn't IndyMedia publish the names and numbers of delegates at the RNC convention?"

I'm not sure if it was them. Some lefty blog did it. But don't worry about it. Jimmy Carter and his crack team of freedom loving dictators are all over elections abuse and intimidation when it's directed against Republicans.

Anyone know anything about SF IndyMedia winning a copyright infringement case against Diebolt, the company that makes the electronic voting machines? I've got a moonbat attacking me saying that they were able to expose malfunctioning machines.

I can hear the British-accented Indy whining from here...

#94...

It just seems interesting to me how they want some of the protections of US law (Privacy Act), at the same time that they complain about other aspects of US law (capital punishment).

Or, is this 'cafeteria'-style benefits?