So, just like killing jihadis just encourages them in the Hydra theory, killing themselves gets Israelis fired up.

Insanity.

It took them 2 whole days to come up with this crap?
They're slipping!

Islam has a genetic component and madness is it's clinical manifestation. The above cited article is proof beyond dispute.

Sure, and President Bush flew those planes into the Pentagon and World Trade Centers by remote control.

These people make me physically ill.

This is the Islamic version of making lemonade out of lemons. But even Philip K. Dick would shake his head at the sick way these people twist reality to serve their own abhorrent, vile purpose.

Someone please explain to me why Isrealis visit Egypt where they are in danger of being murdered and where their money strengthens the Egyptian economy?

Oops! Sorry- meant "evil animals" instead of "people"

At least 38 people, mostly Israeli tourists,

Well this from Jpost
As searches through the heaps of rubble concluded Sunday afternoon, the final death toll in the two attacks was set at 33, Karadi said. Thirteen of the victims are Israeli, 6 Egyptian, and 14 are tourists from elsewhere around the world.

By the way why don't they mention the Israeli Arabs, including a 10 year old boy from Jaffa?

Also in the hotel was the wife and child of a British diplomat.

Nothing but Praise for Egyptians
18:00 Oct 10, '04 / 25 Tishrei 5765

(IsraelNN.com) At the opening of the weekly cabinet meeting this morning, Prime Minister Ariel Sharon used the press opportunity to make another public statement thanking and praising Egypt for its handling of the aftermath of the terrorist bomb attacks in Sinai.

Mr. Sharon’s statements during recent days in praise of Egyptian efforts are in direct contradiction to documented looting of dead victims and negative reports from rescue workers operating on the scene of the Taba Hilton Hotel.

Blindness at old age...

Sounds like Israel failed Kerry's Global Test again. Shame on you Israel. Shame. Shame. Shame.

It failed to ask the U.N. whether it can murder its own civilians in order to gain political capital.

Let us see whether 70% of American Jews, who claim to be Jews by name only, without any regard to Israel's security, will fail the November 2 test and vote for the Global Test creator John Jane Kerry.

should always seek an answer to the basic question of who stands to benefit

No wonder so much Islamic "thought" sounds just like a Raimondo/Rivero blog entry.

We'll know that we're winning when journalists sympathetic to our enemy are no longer able to utter phrases like "the so-called war on terror" with even a shred of plausibility.

Truly defeated enemies—those that are left—know when they've been defeated.

Generations of inbreeding lowers IQ?
By and large Arab Muslims are incapable of logical thought. That's why their countries stink and are impoverished rat holes. Only oil wealth makes some Arab countries somewhat livable.

“Israel’s ultimate goal is to undermine Egypt’s regional role and force it on its knees,

more bizarre "logic" gleefully reported.

Hello Arabs, step off the paranoia pills, that or stop projecting what you allow on to others.

You see, it's just that Egypt is the cradle of civilization, and they've never left it. They're still crawling around on the cognitive floor.

News Flash:

Sa-Da(m)n Rather reports that John Jane Kerry has summoned a summit in Cairo to discuss the recent war of resistance by the Islamic patriots.

Sa-Da(m)n Rather obtained Kerry's Secret Plan in a horse trade show in Texas, and stands by it, even though he cannot authenticate it yet.

The only animals who benefited from the bombing were the egyptian scum who stole jewellery and money from the corpses of the victims. Real vultures indeed.

Someone please explain to me why Isrealis visit Egypt where they are in danger of being murdered and where their money strengthens the Egyptian economy?

The real question is why Israelis are willing to give up places like the Golan Heights in return for a chilly "peace" with Syria... Egypt is supposedly a "moderest" Arab country... If its that cold in Egypt it would be a downright snowy "peace" in Syria.

#16 Bob G.

it's just that Egypt is the cradle of civilization

No, the cradle of civilization is Mesopotamia, now in Iraq. Egypt is the toilet.

That's why Israel warned their citizenry not to travel to Egypt becase the Israeli war room already had this operation planned out and wanted to minimize casualties.

/sarc

Kishinev, April 9, 1903 — A cohort of Russian security, political and diplomatic experts have concluded that the Jews are the only party to benefit from the pogroms that rocked Kishinev and its environs in the Ukraine on April 7, ruling out any possible Russian involvement.

Interior Minister V. Plehve said that while analyzing any such operation security experts should always seek an answer to the basic question of who stands to benefit.

“The Jews are the only party to gain from this operation,” the international security expert told pravda.ru. He pointed out that the Jews will now use this as a pretext to move to America and Western Europe where they will succeed economically and spearhead the Zionist movement.

Egypt hotel bombers 'aided by woman suicide backpacker'

A female suicide bomber is believed to have taken part in the terrorist attack on the Red Sea hotel in which at least 31 people died, Israeli and Egyptian military officials said last night.

The woman, whose decapitated body was found at the back of the hotel, is thought to have been acting with two other suspected terrorists who rammed explosive-laden cars into the front of the Hilton hotel in the Sinai resort of Taba on Thursday night.

Gilad Shemesh, an Israeli army officer at the scene, told The Sunday Telegraph: "Our soldiers were shown a body by the Egyptians. It was a woman. Her head had been blown off.

"They said they were convinced she was a suicide bomber who had probably carried the explosives in a backpack."

An Israeli army captain with almost 20 years' experience of dealing with terrorist attacks pointed to the spot near the hotel's pool where the woman's body was found, along with several victims.

"It is impossible that those victims could have been killed by the two car-bomb blasts at the front of the hotel," he said. "It is clear to me that it was a suicide bomber - but the Egyptians don't want to talk about it officially."

Egypt impairing investigation of Taba bombing - ignored warnings

Israel Television Channel Two military correspondent Ronnie Daniel reported this evening that Avi Dichter, Head of the Israel Security Agency, (Shin Bet), recently visited Cairo to warn of the terror attack threat and that Egypt did nothing in response. "If Egypt had cooperated before the attack it might not have happened," Daniel noted.

Egyptians Looting Dead Bodies

Thank you, Nannette, for the links.

It's typical of muslims: first they kill us then they laugh at us.

When you think that there is a forty per cent of Americans ready to vote for the greatest enemy of America, Kerry the red, you understand why the muslims think they can laugh at us all.

#20

Concur that Iraq is the cradle. But that would make Egypt the diaper, not the toilet. I see no evidence that these people are potty-trained.

#26 Bob G.

I think you're right - that would explain the smell.

Nothing changes in islam, ever. 2000 years of denial and social stagnation with no end in sight.

#6-I was wondering that also.

From Rachel Neuwirth, a real eye opener.

A Closer Look at Egypt

Rachel Neuwirth does one hell of a good job outlining with undeniable facts the problem we have with Egypt. I agree with 'almost' every word in her essay. When it comes to appeasement of Egypt we have seen a fair amount on all sides of the political spectrum. It is now a matter of what we are going to do about it and the demands we must insist of our elected officials.

For all the complaning and harsh condemnation concerning the money Israel is given by the U.S., the fact is completely ignored that Israel gives back ten fold. To make matters worse, the money often times is used as leverage for Israel to tow the mark. For all the money we give Egypt, Egypt gives nothing back.

Time we ask why and then do something about it. To continue the illusion that Egypt is our friend will in the end hurt us more than help us.

#28

Give Islam credit for inventing zero. It's just that they've been inventing it ever since.

#28

You're exaggerating. You can only blame Islam for the last 1400 years of denial and social stagnation.

When in doubt, blame the jews.

Mr. Kerry, Where is your secret plan?

People are being slaughtered. They are being butchered.

When will you hold a summit? Is the official language of the summit French? Can we bring cheat sheets for the Global test?

Sa-Da(m)n Rather, Kerry's media advisor and representative, said, "Hope is on the way."

...so like the EgyptAir Flight that went down without a squawk, this will get swept under the rug as being the fault of the Jooosss! Morons! The Egyptians and other's of the Islamic persuasion are not going to find anything else. What the investigators must do is ignore all that B.S. and pick up as many clues from the type of explosives and other signature giveaways within the blast sites ass possible. So far I've heard that the explosive was trace to Iran and that it was the same substance that was used in the Khobar Towers bombing? Correct me people if I'm wrong but that's what I heard last week.

That's the kind of information, that as long as the skeleton facts of the bombings is kept true and free of politics, then the origins and possibly even who is responsible can be traced. As far as 'fairness'--it happened in an Arab country and was probably built and detonated by other Arabs. Nothing is going to give you a 'fair' verdict in the politics of the thing, because we're dealing with Arabs and Islamists. It's written right in their Q'ran that it's okay to lie to the kafir when it's necessary to do so. So don't expect the truth from them. Find the truth about the explosion ourselves and be content with that ammunition for the next time.

#16 Bob G.

You see, it's just that Egypt is the cradle of civilization...

And they did nothing much with it.

Egypt is a third world country when it could have been more. Tourism is their biggest business but if they don't wise up, soon they will not even have that to lean on.

So Israel, who goes to great lengths to gather all body parts possible of bombing victims in order to assure a proper burial, and expends vast resources to make sure that no one of their military gets left behind, has now resorted to bombing their own people?

Are Arabs so warped that they assume that all societies, regardless of their level of development, hold their own people in as much disregard as they do? Who do the Egyptians think, other than other Arabs and those of their ilk, will buy this crap?

Amazing.

This was child's play for the Mossad after their great success in destroying the World Trade Center.

/Oy vey!

Kerry only needs to get a few articles printed in the Eqyptian press to straighten them out. I'm sure he'll have them singing and dancing the hora in no time.

/double oy vey!

#31 Bob G.

Zero was an Indian/Hindu invention. Islam had zero to do with it.

Our friends the Egyptians

Mubarak has been no better on the cultural and diplomatic front. The government-controlled Egyptian press is replete with anti-Semitic imagery and anti-Israel incitement, with the current showing of a 41-part television series based on the infamous Protocols of the Elders of Zion the latest example. And Mubarak was only too happy to host the recent terrorist summit in Cairo, where he invited Hamas and Fatah to discuss which Israelis would be considered legitimate targets for Palestinian attacks.

This pattern of behavior would perhaps seem somewhat less impertinent were it not for the fact that Egypt is the second-largest recipient of US foreign aid to the tune of $2.1 billion annually. But just as Americans have begun to wonder of late about the true nature of "our Saudi friends," they might do well to begin thinking along the same lines about "our Egyptian friends." After all, what is all that money actually getting them?

Mubarak and his aides have repeatedly come out against a possible American strike on Iraq. Cairo not only has failed to encourage Arafat to end terrorism, but Egyptian imams are allowed to openly advocate suicide attacks. Shortly after the first woman suicide bomber blew herself up in the center of Jerusalem, killing one man and wounding 175 people, a concert was held in Cairo in the bomber's honor.

No, no, people, don't you see? The Egyptian security types (and minister) claim that only a party that has unlimited access to the area can be held responsible. The only party that had such access is the Egyptian security apparatus itself! They are telling us, without actually using the words, that the Egyptians themselves have conspired with al-Qaeda to blow up this hotel!

/sarcasm (but may be proven right yet)

He pointed out that the Israelis and their agents are the only people who have free access to the targeted area.

Bullcrap.

Jerusalem Post

Separate Zaka (Disaster Victims Identification) sources at the Taba disaster zone complained early Friday afternoon that the Egyptians had piled corpses from the Taba bombing at a tiny, un-refrigerated clinic a kilometer south of the hotel. Eitan Ohayon, of the Jerusalem Zaka branch, said he "saw 20 bodies piled up on the floor of the clinic at Taba. The Egyptians would not let us touch the bodies, and judging by the smell, they were beginning to rot in the heat."

Sami Ohayon (no relation), commander and operations chief of Eilat's Fire and Rescue Services, even charged that "the Egyptians were stealing the bodies. Guards with Kalashnikovs were guarding them and not letting us get anywhere to check if they are ours [Israeli]."

Rescue workers from Eilat and Zaka accused locals of looting the hotel stores and guest rooms throughout the night and the early part of Friday morning. "I saw them swipe all they could from the Hilton's stores," said one official early Friday morning. Later on Friday, Zaka officials said unidentified men, whom they believed to be Egyptian, began to systematically go through the rooms. The accusations could not be confirmed. Hundreds of tourists abandoned most of their possessions in their flight from the burning hotel.

Unfortunately it was the Egyptian border crossing personnel's very officiousness which Israeli rescue workers cite as the possible cause of several deaths. In the pandemonium immediately following the bombing, bewildered Egyptian officials barely loosened the border-crossing regulations. They allowed only a trickle of Eilat rescue workers into Taba, along with one ambulance, to shuttle the wounded from the hotel to the border crossing 200 meters north.

Hundreds of reservists from the Home Front's Search and Rescue team, airlifted to Eilat, waited fruitlessly at the border for Egypt to allow uniformed Israeli troops onto Egyptian soil for the first time since Israel relinquished Taba in 1988. They only got in early on Friday morning, and only toward late afternoon on Friday did the Egyptians allow heavy equipment to cross the border.

40 zulubaby
Yah, our friends...right /

In #30 I posted a similar essay. Why we don't pressure Egypt is beyond me. It is just plain wrong.

“Israel is the only party to gain from this operation,” the international security expert told IslamOnline.net. He pointed out that the Israelis and their agents are the only people who have free access to the targeted area.

A blatant attempt to amplify the general loathing of Islamics nascent in even the hard left.

If Israel 'benefits' too much more from terrorism, the whole nation will be dead or walk with a limp, while learning to do things with one hand.

^ As noted, if our own hard left wasn't just as insane I'd be more critical of the Arabs. But Sontag, Fisk, Chomsky, France, and much of the rest of Europe will read this and say "of course!"

This is typical of an arab "shame" culture, in which it is more important to fix the blame for something on someone else, than to find out the truth. So it will be essential for Egypt to show that Egypt (and its security services) did nothing wrong, but that it was the Jews/Mossad/Americans/British or someone else who really did the dirty work; Egyptians are spotless.
But it is this attitude (throughout the arab world) which results in the fact that problems in these countries are never faced or analyzed, but only swept under the rug. And hence, no changes are made, no progress is made, and today the arab culture exceeds all others in the ability to manufacture excuses and to deceive itself about the nature of what goes on in the world. It would rather live in a fable
("wicked Jews and the Protocols") than have to admit that maybe some of the fault for their backwardness lies with themselves (and their religion).

I expected nothing less from one of the biggest purveyors of anti-semitic literature in the ME. I think it's time the US pulled the plug on funding for Egypt, and let's all stand back as the country collapses.

Why do I think the most valuable tenet of Islamic logical thinking is sticking one's fingers in one's ears and yelling, "La la la la I can't hear you!"

Yelling "It's all the Jews' fault!" before or after is optional.

Filthy swine. Hanzirim. Qus Ummaq Sharmoota, etc etc.

Wouldn't it be possible to plant a rumor that one or two of these "experts" are themselves secret Zionists, who cooked up this theory in order to make Egypt look foolish in the world's eyes? And like who benefits from THAT, huh? Proof positive as far as I'm concerned.

gee, the possibilities for this sort of thing are endless...

Reading the quran must turn one's brains into camel manure.

Arab./muslim culture is so depraved and disgusting, they never fail to amaze me with the depth of depravity they sink to.

Robbing the corpses. That's just the worst thing I think I have ever heard. A new low for islam and it's brain dead followers.

Twisted lies. They have nothing but lies to offer. The left in the US will parrot this line immediatly on forums.

#40 zulubaby - while some people think I'm smart (you CAN fool some of the people some of the time!) I'm not smart enough and don't know what to do with your missive. It deserves to be published in the Egyptian Press (no way); it deserves to be read by Flipper (or read to him as he practices his dance moves), but again, no way.
You know with most of us, certainly me, you are "preaching to the choir". How can we more widely disseminate your post?
I ask this in all seriousness and will gladly take advice from zulubaby and anyone else.

Egypt: Bedouin Admits to Explosives Sale

I'm still not buying it.

The tribesman said the buyers, whom he couldn't identify, had told him the explosives would be used in the Palestinian territories, an Egyptian investigator told The Associated Press.

"The explosives were sold on the assumption that they were going to the Palestinians," the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

Like that makes it okay. Dear G-d.

Three car bombs exploded Thursday night, one at the Taba Hilton just south of the Egypt-Israel border and two at a town of beach bungalows, Ras Shitan, 35 miles to the south on the Red Sea coast.

They're leaving out that there was also someone shooting at people and, of course, that there was a female suicide bomber there too.

realwest, I honestly don't know. I can only post it and hope that it will be read by many and passed on. Notice the date on that article? November 20, 2002.

Al-Qaida terrorist network heads the list of suspected terror organizations responsible for the simultaneous attacks. According to a report in London's Sunday Times, Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has directed the Mossad to look into links between Palestinian terror organizations and al-Qaida as a priority in its investigations of the brutal bombings.

"Al-Qaida network hit this time in our back yard. If we don't focus our efforts against al-Qaida, next time they will hit Tel-Aviv," the Sunday Times quoted a senior Israeli security official. "We cannot ignore them anymore."

The Egyptian official/analyst must be confusing Israel with other middle eastern countries.

Israel does not butcher its citizens in machiavellian schemes.

It is an interesting perspective the egyptians show us, however. Every insanity that the arabs manifest in their words and actions can be blamed on the jews, because those very same actions make the arabs look like idiots, animals, or idotic animals, and when they look like idiots, the jews benefit. Therefore,

while analyzing any such operation security experts should always seek an answer to the basic question of who stands to benefit.

I think this 'think tank' is running on fumes.

A cohort of Egyptian security, political and diplomatic experts have concluded that Israel is the only party to benefit from the blasts

Once again showing how islam places little or no value on life. Israel puts life above all else so definitely paid the greatest price.

Check jpost.com

Seems the Israeli vacationers at the Taba Hilton were mainly working class Arabs from mixed towns who liked the food and Arabic signs

Smart, Osama, smart!

or maybe you did it because these Arab women weren't wearing a burqa?

Gives me more reasons to hate Islam, they are doing a good job of selling their religion to the savages!

This is the same Egypt that never accepted the conclusion that one of their own pilots would kill everyone on board by smashing his aircraft into the sea. In case you never checked the cockpit voice recorder, a transcript is available here:

[Link: www.ntsb.gov...]cvr transcript of egyptair 990

After reading the NTSB report, I have little doubt that denial really is a river in egypt.

oops. the ntsb file is pretty large. the money quotes from the guy at the control are on pages 34 - 38. These pages are really quick to read, so don't worry.

Wade

#52 realwest

Unfortunately the MSM are only interested in this stuff the NYT published

Michael Tarazi, an American lawyer and advisor for the PLO, received op-ed space in the NY Times

And this after all Arafat has done to the Christians communities and attempted to destroy the History of the Temple at the time of Christ they publish:

' and thinks it possible to create a multicultural utopia west of the Jordan:

The one-state solution, however, neither destroys the Jewish character of the Holy Land nor negates the Jewish historical and religious attachment (although it would destroy the superior status of Jews in that state). Rather, it affirms that the Holy Land has an equal Christian and Muslim character.

To get out what is actually happening will mean changing "Ratherland".

That particular Hilton was built by an Israeli businessman and was sold to Arab concerns (then Hilton) when the land became part of Egypt. It is situated only a short distance from the Egypt/Israel border, like down the block from Israel and many vacation there to take advantage of the food, casino resort atmosphere, especially at holiday times. It was like 'going home' for some of us ...

Guess a black jack dealer was one card shy of a deck and somebody didn't like it. That's about as good an excuse for this bombing as the Egyptians are putting out now.

I'm beyond rage at this continued murdering of not only my people, family and friends but of all the people who happen to be around at any given time and place when one of these jerk-off outfits desides to explode. It's time somebody did something besides appeasing these fanatical beasts. Arrggghh!

Begin said that when goyim kill goyim the
Jews get blamed. I guess when goyim
kill Jews - and other goyim - the Jews
STILL get blamed.

I think I understand why Israel doesn't
bother trying to court world opinion on
to its side. That would be an impossible
task with idiots like this Egyptian 'security'
export spinning his crap. And the LLL is,
I'm sure, buying it all.

#24 Zulubaby... thanks :-)

I don't suppose anyone remembers this article where Hamas promised to export terror???

The Beduoin have always been pro-Israel, but I'm still convinced it's a Hamas/Egyptian co-operation who pulled off these atrocities.

A briilliant article by Stan Goodenough - and well worth reading... No surprise in Sinai

and the following is so unrealistic, it's laughable!

Palestinians demand UNRWA isn't accountable to anyone, not even their donors... "It's very serious if UNRWA has invoked old regulations prohibiting its workers from engaging in political or nationalist activities. This is a violation of basic human rights and the freedom of expression."... "We refuse to see UNRWA being subjected to extortion by the donor countries," he added. "The United Nations must work towards providing the money required to finance the activities of UNRWA without any preconditions."

#65 Nannette

I hadn't seen that last article, and it's very interesting. Thank you.

I wonder how long the US will continue to fund the UNRWA now that it knows most of its employees are actually terrorists?

#67 Mr Pol

After reading that I can't understand for the life of me why anyone funds the UNRWA... it's time for this outdated UN institution to be dismatled and put in the archives of history...

Let the Palestinians live under UNHCR like other refugees... otherwise let the Arab states take them in.

#67 Nannette

After reading that I can't understand for the life of me why anyone funds the UNRWA...

Basically, to please the Arabs... funding the terrorists in a deniable way. Now, however, it is not deniable any more.

Let the Palestinians live under UNHCR like other refugees...

By UNHCR rules, there are no 'Balestinian' refugees.

otherwise let the Arab states take them in.

What? And dismantle their terrorist proxy? How are the supposed to fight Zionism if they can't use terrorism?

#68 Mr. Pol

LOL - how many Arab states really accept Israel's existence?

The Palestinians have homes in every Arab state, and not only will they be better funded, but they'll be comfortable too... although the big political pawn of these "poor refugees" will then dissolve...

Right now, it's an embarrassment to the rest of the world to have the Palestinians of the UNRWA demanding their rights as terrorists, which also means that Eurabia and the other countries who would like the demise of Israel, are now totally exposed as to their real motives...

#20 Mr Pol 10/10/2004 09:22AM PST
#16 Bob G.

it's just that Egypt is the cradle of civilization
No, the cradle of civilization is Mesopotamia, now in Iraq. Egypt is the toilet.

If Iraq is the cradle of civilization, then the cradle must have tipped over and spilled the baby out. The baby landed on its head and is now one very, very distrubed adult.

Zak

#69 Nannette

how many Arab states really accept Israel's existence?

Two - Egypt and Jordan. But how many Arab states accept Israel's existence as a Jewish state? None.

The Palestinians have homes in every Arab state, and not only will they be better funded, but they'll be comfortable too... although the big political pawn of these "poor refugees" will then dissolve...

Actually, Arabs everywhere despise 'Balestinians'. They are not welcome anywhere in the Arab world, not even in Jordan by the Beduins.

Right now, it's an embarrassment to the rest of the world to have the Palestinians of the UNRWA demanding their rights as terrorists, which also means that Eurabia and the other countries who would like the demise of Israel, are now totally exposed as to their real motives...

Now, that's a good thing, right? Funding the UNRWA is funding terrorism, and it is not deniable any more. Somehow, though, I do not expect that any country will stop funding the UNRWA - not even the US.

#70 Mr. Pol

75% of Jordanians are Palestinian... they have their own state!

And as for the rest of the world funding Palestinians so they can murder Jews? That's nothing new - and yes, it will continue, despite the denials of people like Chris (I love Arabs) Patten!

Nannette (#69)

The Palestinians have homes in every Arab state, and not only will they be better funded, but they'll be comfortable too... although the big political pawn of these "poor refugees" will then dissolve...

Nobody wants the Palestinians. They know what trouble-makers they are. They're Jordanians and Jordan won't even have them! Why the Jews had to be lumped with them, I don't know.

Oops, should have refreshed the page before I posted :-)

The Arabs know what troublemakers they are but they still get invited to Syria, Lebanon, etc...

#75 Nannette

...where they are parked in camps, refused equal rights (not that there were many rights in those countries in the first place...), brainwashed and trained as attack dogs for their 'Arab brothers'...

"Attack dogs" is right Mr. Pol - and they don't know any better... they've been bred for terrorism and it's a big part of their education and their sole raison d'etre!

"A cohort of Egyptian security, political and diplomatic experts" said it's all the fault of the Jews, they did the terrorism to themselves.
It's no longer possible to parody the antisemitic and judeophobic thinking of the Arab and Muslim world. They provide their own parody, and the actual happenings in the Arab and Muslim world are about as strange as anything one could devise in a parody.

Hmmm...! Now now, folks, perhaps our Egyptian intelligence experts do have a point...

To further general regional stability and spare our Peace Partners any possible further embarassment, lets just take Sinai off their hands.

As to why Jews are specifically burdened with the world's only "professional refugees", the palis (other than our own extraterrestrial stupidity, of course), I was addressing this in correspondence the other day with a borderline moonbat very old friend of mine, and attempted to distill a viewpoint espoused by Barry Chamish, and certain other 'conspiracy theorists': -

The powers-that-be have decided that emergence of an entity that confirms the viability and veracity of a pan-historical transcendent nationalism is a mortal threat to their Plan for World Domination.

It would serve as a validation for every other ethnic national imperative on the planet, and end their quest to convert the world's peoples to one great corporately controlled entity. For this reason, they must destroy any vestige of transcendent connection between the People and the Land, and to this end they have bent their will, and their fathomless earthly powers, for hundreds of years. They'll not rest till Jerusalem is again divided, or internationalized, and all signs of religious connection and purpose have been purged from the body politic of Israel. To this end they have obtained to those of like mind in Israel, in whose hands they place the temporal power of rulership of the Land.

I'll reserve personal opinion for the time being, but this I wrote above, is I hope close to Chamish's positions.

"Just because one is paranoid doesn't mean noone is out to get you."
"Paranoia is just Reality on a finer tuning" - "Strange Days" movie

Only minds that don't value life, are accustomed to conspiracy as a way of life and see the benefits of terrorism could come up with such a load of crap.

I say it again,

Cry havoc...

Such vile despicable oral vomit is to be expected from Egyptian political and religious leaders. The horrible part is that millions of demented paranoid conspiracy-enabled Muslims will believe it. From childhood they are taught by the Koran not to question anything. That is the true "no hope" which envelopes Islam in an abyss of failure, jealousy, and hate.

WHO KNOWS?

1) There was the Lavon Affair.
2) Mossad -- "war by deception" is their motto.
3) Mossad got busted trying to bomb the Mexican congress! look it up.

Israel is not honest either. Not even close.

#84 DannyK
You have it wrong concerning which is the death cult. The Islamists boast that they love death while the Jews love life. And it is true that the Jews love life.

You are circulating the notion that the Israelis massacred their own, because you are infected with the same antisemitism and judeophobia that infects the Arab world and the Muslim world.

I see no difference at all between you and the demented Jew-haters of the Arab and Muslim world. You are part of that psychotic demented group, susceptible to believing any evil thing at all about the Jews, the sons of monkeys and pigs.

It's a shame that you don't know how stupid you sound when you are out of your circle of radical antisemites.

#81 Elle Plater
Good post. You are exactly right.