What a nutbag!

Jhimminy should be given a special Ignobel Prize in recognition of a lifetime of idiocy.

So... wait... if the BRITISH had been more reasonable, the revolution wouldn't have had to have been fought? Well DUH! By a similar line of thinking, if only those darn Nazis weren't so mean we wouldn't have had to deal with that D-Day thing.

The man must just be getting more and more delusional as the days go by. What a, what a, ...dummycrat

Just when you think people cant say anything dumber...along comes carter

I say we stage a putsch and install Jimmy Carter as Idiotarian of the Year. It would fit his politics perfectly.

Oh, brother.

Why does Jimmy Carter hate the French?

/Not that there's anything wrong with that. I kid the French. ;-)

If, if, if. If you'd have had some judgement, we wouldn't be in this situation with Iran, you fruitloop.

Shut the fuck up and dissappear already.

Anyone got that excerpt from Mr. Hindsight's book about the tight pants?

more than any other war up until recently, has been the most bloody war we’ve fought.

I'm no historian, but neither is Carter.

[Link: www.cwc.lsu.edu...]

I think Jimmah is beginning to show signs of dementia. This is just asinine( if it came from a sane man's mouth)

The Civil War was far bloodier, with WWII very close.

Idiot.

What kind of historian makes the claim that the Revolution was the bloodiest war that Americans have fought? Jimmy must have forgotten about the Late Unpleasantness that came near lil-ole Plains GA.

Carter needs to be sent on a permanent vacation to Iran, the paradise that he created.

... and had Saddam been a little more sensitive to our threats to blow his ass back to the stone age, the war in Iraq might have been avoided... or, if Al Qaeda had been a little more sensitive to our desire to keep the WTC towers and 3,000 American Citizens, the whole WoT might have been avoided.

Seriously, what's his point here? The Revolutionary war was fought because we weren't willing to put up with Britain walking all over us any more. Of course it could have been avoided if they hadn't walked all over us in the first place.

did cater say that we can't win the cold war?

Hold off on that Boston tea party. In the name of peace and multilateralism, send Paul Revere, John Hancock, and Thomas Jefferson to have a parlay in London with that lunatic, George III.

This chump, like Kerry would be in favor of a more "sensitive" war.

Pu-leeze! I'm cranky and especially fatigued by these fools today.

It was called the Olive Branch Petition and it didn't work.

Had the British Parliament been a little more sensitive to the colonial’s really legitimate complaints and requests the war could have been avoided completely, and of course now we would have been a free country now as is Canada and India and Australia, having gotten our independence in a nonviolent way.

Aww, he wishes the British Parliament had been a little more sensitive. Well, you know what? THEY WEREN'T. That's history.

Give me liberty or give me death!

was that a typo?

I guess I comprehend what he's saying, but in his world could it be possible that we would still be trying to solve our differences with the British by "diplomacy" after 228 years? And, if so, if we went to war with them, say, next year, would it be a "rush to war"? These people take their own illusions about how the world works way too seriously. I won't even bother with the premise of Matthews original question.

If Jimmy Carter hadn't been president -

No invasion of Afghanistan, hence al-Qa'idah might have been substantially smaller

-No Islamist regime in Iran, therefore Hizbullah would not exist.

-No Sandinista regime in Nicaragua (11 years)

-Because of #2 and #3, no Iran-Contra

-No Robert Mugabe

-Andsoonsoonsoon

yet another mindless comment from the president who brought us the misery index, double digit inflation, and the very begining of Islamofacism! He will go down as a peace advocate in the lll spun history books, instaed of the looser he is!!!

(spit!)

Carter has set himself the seemingly impossible goal of turning into a parody of himself. I think he may actually have clinched it with this interview...

He is right, and we would now be 4 or 5 different countries with no sense of patriotism at all (weak as it is now) because our freedom was not won but given as a dog gets a bone from its master.

How exactly did the Democrats go from Roosevelt and Truman to morons like Carter, Dukakis, Teddy K, Slick Willie and Kerry ?

How the hell did Carter get elected? It was his decisiion not to go to war against the Ayatollah in Iran for the sake of 21 lives or so that got thousands killed over this past 25 years. Even some of the hostages from 1979 have said that we should have declared war even if it had cost them their lives. Some principles are of a higher order.

I'm left with my mouth hanging open, kinda like the AFLAC duck when confronted with Yogi Berra logic.

Non-violence and negotiations didn't work during the Iran Hostage Crisis, President Carter. They don't work now. The forces of darkness have handily caught on to the concept that a velvet fist inside of a velvet glove is pretty damned weak.

Jimmah, you are an arsehole and you use peanut shells to shit in. If they gave a prize for the dipshit of the year - you my friend would likely win it - no skerry might too but that is another story.

Suffice it to say that I never voted for this ass and never would have. His simplistic mind and thought patterns just boggle my noodle. He tries to breakdown conflicts like this into his simple minded babble and comes off looking like a rube and hick from the sticks which is all he will ever be. Thought there might actually be some good to come out of this asshat but, I was wrong...the senile old fool is sinking fast.

...and we could have be like Canada, India and Australia???

Oh joy!

(no offense to our Canadian, Indian or Autralian reraders, but really!)

Yep Carter needs a brain transplant.
maybe Clinton will volunteer when that husk he waddles arround in kicks off.

Well, one parallel is that the Revolutionary War, more than any other war up until recently, has been the most bloody war we’ve fought.

Oh. My. G-d.

LOL

And this guy was President???

last night he was on letterman. he said he was pissed that he didnt get a nobel prize when he was president because he thought he deserved one.

Carter no doubt was the worst president of my lifetime and I wish he would just dig a hole and crawl in it. I also fear that the Carter presidency was a preview to a Kerry presidency. Weak economy, weak military, weak president!!!

It's that damn George Washitler's fault!

Geez, what a distorted, nay ignorant outlook on our break with England. Does anyone here really think they would have given us what we wanted and we would have avoided war? Please don't insult us Jimmy. It was the British Empire and they weren't prepared in any way, shape or form to give us up at that time. We were valuable. They took our money, ie taxes, and didn't give a hellva lot in return and they weren't going to give up their money trough without a fight.

Someone please take the mike away. Mr. Carter shows more of his ignorance and his desired subserivance to totalitarian powers everyday. I guess in his world nothing is worth fighting or dying for. What in the hell did he learn in his time in the Navy? Did our armed forces teach him nothing? Not only are somethings worth dying for, they're worth killing for too. What's that old Patton quote? "The object of war isn't to die for your country it's to make the other poor bastard die for his."

We fight for what we believe in because that's who we are. Obviously Mr. Carter doesn't believe in that and we should encourage him to live where his views match the policy of his nation. May I suggest France. While they fought a revolution, their ass' has been run over several times since, They sure seem to have learned the lesson of appeasement Mr. Carter espouses.

What a moonbat.

I didn't watch it, but Jimmuh was on Late Night with David Letterman last night. Wonder how that went? Letterman also put Joe Wilson on when his book of lies came out.

I voted yesterday (first day of "early voting" in Texas). Straight GOP.

and to think that had there not been a backlash against Republicans after Nixon/Watergate, Jimbo would not have been president and today he'd be just another old farmer BS'ing this crap with Jed over at the feed store.

I find it amusing that Jhimminy would pick on one of the few, if not the only, revolutions that actually had positive results. I don't see him bad-mouthing Fidel's efforts, or suggesting that perhaps the Bolsheviks got it wrong. No, this gaseous windbag, this dispeptic fraud, is hot and bothered about a revolution devoted to the fundamantals of freedom and democracy.

Please, Jhimmah--do us all a favour and do something useful with your declining years. Write another dirty book or go build a house.

I know we can't have the same winner every year, but maybe there should be a lifetime idiotarian achievement award named in Jimmy's honor. The title gets pretty long, so maybe we could just call it: The Jimmy, sort of like the Emmy and the Oscar.

The Jimmy, for exceptional acheivement in idiotarian thought over many years, or some such.

I would love to get his take on the War of 1812. That's got to be a real doozy.

Two scumbags in one interview. First, Chris Matthews drawing parallels between our struggle for independence (fought by militia and regular troops against regular British troops) and the acts of terrorists in Iraq, many of whom aren't even Iragi. What to go Chris, you've swallowed the Michael Moore "minuteman" BS.

The second, of course, Dhimmi Jimmi -- Minimizing the accomplishments of our forefathers, declaring our fight to win independence as unnecessary and then saying how lovely and free we'd all have been had we waited, just like Canada. Just maybe if we hadn't shown the world we could throw off the yolk of tryanny, the Canadians, Indians and Aussies, along with us would be having tea time right now, with taxes on the tea.

Funny, I guess Carter fancies that if he were on the scene, he'd have convinced ol' King George and the Parliament to see it all our way, just like he did with Iran and the hostages or Korea and their nukes ... oops. The truth is that Carter never met a tyrant he didn't feel compelled to fawn all over. Carter in the Court of St. James in 1776? That would be the stuff of a Mel Brooks comedy.

The Revolutionary War was our most bloody? On what basis does he make that claim? By what standard?

Carter is a vain and bitter man.

carter say people forget the france help us out!
did people forget the franch kill us troops in africa?

Die.Already.

28 RIP Ford -- the Civil War was far and away the bloodiest war we ever fought in terms of casualties as a percentage of the p[opulation and even total casualties (WWII may edge it out in total but with 5 times the population) Nam and Korea don't come close to say nothing of the 2 Gulf Wars. "Until recently" is the Civil War? Even in Georgia, I don't think the Civil War is recent today.

Sorry to rant pedantically.

...and of course now we would have been a free country now as is Canada and India and Australia, having gotten our independence in a nonviolent way.

Just 150 years later!

#20
Aaaahh, the big trap. IF.
If John Kennedy hadn't gone to Dallas..
If Ron Reagan had won an Oscar...
If Hillary would've been servicing Bill he wouldn't have needed Monica...

not to defend Carter, I'm just saying.

"...and of course now we would have been a free country now as is Canada and India and Australia..."

Who's to say that these countries would be free today if not for the example of the American Revolution and the US Constitution.

Was this idiot really president of the United States?

Had the British Parliament been a little more sensitive to the colonial’s really legitimate complaints and requests the war could have been avoided completely

Yes, Mr. President, if the parties on both sides agree then war wouldn't be needed. Nor would Commanders-in-Chief.

However, as we discovered in your fetid presidency, international relations are seldom so easy. That's why we need real leaders who are willing to act when that's the best possible course to take. No wonder you're a disgrace, a shameful memory to even your party's faithful. Congratulations Dems, you've sunk so low nationally that even Carter is currently one of your luminaries.

#9 Hhar -

Oh, Lordy...it's even worse than I thought - he's off by a factor of OVER A HUNDRED when comparing the Revolutionary War to the Civil War and WWII. And not only is it not the deadliest war, it is the SECOND LEAST DEADLY war - only the War of 1812 had less deaths.

It seems Jhimmah is still getting and taking advice from Amy.

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't I learn in school that the 'Revolutionary War' almost had to be started by provocation (the Boston Tea Party) because England wouldn't let go? The colonials, finally fed up with being dictated to and after much negotiation and appeals to the then King George III, finally in desperation came up with the idea of provoking England by refusing to pay the newly hiked 'tea tax', mounted a raid on a frigate and tossed the unloaded tea into the harbor? They said they wouldn't pay the tax, obey England anymore and "take the tea and shove it up your jumper, England" and thereupon tossed the cargo into Boston Harbor.

Apparently the Revolutionary War was the wrong war in the wrong place at the wrong time.

and of course now we would have been a free country now as is Canada and India and Australia, having gotten our independence in a nonviolent way.

What a twat. The only reason Canada became independant without (much) bloodshed was because Queen Vic was smart enough to avoid another revolution and grant self governance in the colonies. Canada became independant because of the American Revolution, not in spite of it.

I am reminded of the Bart Simpson quote:

Ladies and Gentlemen, there is no such thing as a good war, with the following exceptions: The War of Independance, the Second World War, and the Star Wars trilogy.

Uhm, what's wrong with Canada, y'all?

Of course he could be wrong about the Revolutionary war. I remember what my Dad told me when I was just a tyke growing up in Canada.

He said that Canada got its independence from Britain because, unlike the US, Canada was a net drain on the British economy. Canada would have been happy to remain part of Britain, but they kicked us out.

Heh.

My friend, an older gentleman, who fled Iran due to a death threat put on his head by Khomeini says,

"Jimmy Carter is a stupid, stupid man! Nothing but a damn peanut farmer!"

You have to give Jimmah some credit for his long-term historical perspective.

one parallel is that the Revolutionary War, more than any other war up until recently, has been the most bloody war we’ve fought

Apparently for this Great Brain, 1861 is "recent".

Had the British Parliament been a little more sensitive to the colonial’s really legitimate complaints

Hey, yeah, the parallel to the Iraq war is obvious. Had Saddam been just a little more sensitive to the complaints of the gassed Kurds...

Pacifism has shrivelled his already peanut-sized brain.

This has gotta be the dumbest fucking person I have never met

I think Gerald Ford is feeling a little less silly about his "Eastern Europe is independent and autonomous" remark in the 1976 debate.

Why can't a past winner recieve the award?

But this is astonishing news! I can't believe the import of this, that we should be alive in this day and age to witness such sights.

I mean, I had no idea medical science was so advanced that it could keep a man, Jimmy Carter, alive whose brain has been entirely removed.

Congratulations to the Umbrella Corporation for this triumph.

Why even the sacking of Rome was entirely unnecessary. If only the Romans had negotiated with the Ostrogoths a little longer, they could have come to a mutually acceptable agreement and avoided all the bloodshed. For example, the Romans could have agreed to all commit suicide by poisoning themselves, thereby making the cleanup of the corpses much less messy.

#55 grayp

LOL

The only thing Carter is right about, is that the Revolutionary War was deadlier than the Iraq War.

When ex-Prez Jimmy C, says Canada is a free country he is wrong. It is a dictatorship run by the Liberals. I don't think Americans would tolerate a government like the one we have up here.

Had the British Parliament been a little more sensitive

That is fuc*ing it...the Democratic Party...until they clean house...are no more, gone, bye-bye, adios, frickin' nutjobs.

I think when Matthews interviews el cubos like Carter his show should be called Softball.

#52 MichelefromLA

I also have a good friend from Iran. I remember a conversation I had with him once went a little like this.

ME: So, wouldn't you like to go back and visit Iran?
Iranian: No, they will kill me if I go back.
ME: OH! why would they kill you?
Iranian: Because I'm jewish.

I have a feeling that my Dad was an wrong about Canada not being profitable for England though, lots of raw material in Canada... Sounds like the sort of conspiracy thinking a liberal arts prof like him would believe though - there an assumption that there's a profit motive behind everything.

And this guy was President???

Not really. He held the office, but he wasn't president.

If you can stand to keep scrolling down the link, Matthews later interviews Ron Suskind, who elaborates on his Bush hit piece from the NYT Magazine.

What a disgusting show that must've been, from beginning to end.

Carter has lost it. Hardball is not far behind. Will somebody please tell me what the hell is going on?

And it's still a dead heat? Saints preserve us!

Al

King George should have been more sensitive. How did this guy get to be Pres?

By the way, folks, let's take a moment out from our dogpilin' on Jimmah to note that in the question, Chris Matthews seems to be inviting a comparison between the Iraqi jihadists and the Minutemen.

25 bolivar

at least the hicks from the sticks have some common since...all Jimmuh has left is the accent!!!

24agtiger

you have a point. Jimmy Carter, the president who created the Iran hostage crisis, should know better than anyone that you can't negotiate with islamofacists(I don't even capitalize it now...makes it look illegitimate!)!!He is the quinessential definition of crazy...

Doing the same thing over & over again, expecting different results

Hey! come to think of it...all Democrats must be crazy!!

Whoops, #38 Studsup already preempted my post #71.

I'm sure Ben Franklin would be shocked by this. Didn't he try and try and try to negotiate a peaceful transaction to independence? He gave up, went back to Boston, and helped with the Constitutional Congress and the Declaration. If I've read my history correctly (Thank you very much Jeff Shaara!), the Revolutionary War didn't start in a split second: it took time!

What a maroon! Thank God I was too young to know what was going on but I did know a good song from back then. You know, the Oscar Meyer Weiner tune:

My President has a first name. It's J-I-M-M-Y.
My President has a second name. It's C-A-R-T-E-R.

Does anyone else know the rest of this? I just remember something about peanuts and the USA!

#62 Evil Bill

I like Canada (except for the weather). I like the US as well. As a jew, I feel more accepted in Canada than I did in Australia.

Uhh, Jhimmi's from Georgia, right?

I guess he forgot about the "March to the Sea".

WTF is this guy talking about???

What a moron.

OH MY GOD. How thick can this man be???

#36 a.k.a. Will

I had the same idea.

I think another parallel is that in some ways the Revolutionary War could have been avoided. It was an unnecessary war.

Had the British Parliament been a little more sensitive to the colonial’s really legitimate complaints and requests the war could have been avoided completely, and of course now we would have been a free country now as is Canada and India and Australia, having gotten our independence in a nonviolent way.

This is quite possibly the dumbest thing he's ever said. No offense But I don't want America to be just like Canada, Australia, or INDIA?!

I'm proud of our revolutionary history. I'm proud of the Constitution, and the Declaration of Independence - neither of which would exist now if it weren't for that "unnecessary war".

Dhimmi Carter is a fucking asshole and an idiot if he'd throw away our history.

Anything, in the long run, could be avoided Jimmah, since, in the long run, we are all dead.

OT - A Hollywood liberal sees the light. (via Drudge)

If only King George had had sensitivity training! I hear it was all the vogue in 1776.

I'm glad he said this doinky stuff. Haven't laughed so hard in days.

What
An
Idiot.

Maybe he's going senile, not that he had much mind to lose...

That's right Jimma, the Revolutionary War was the bloodiest and historians say the Civil War was. Some say Arrafat is a terrorist and you call him friend. And so it goes...

Yeah Jimmy, confiscatory tariffs, like terrorism, are but a nuisance.

What you're witnessing here is the LLL philosophy in full blossom. The stench is absolutely amazing.

I wonder when he is going to ask us apologize to Britain?

#66 Joshua (not a hamster) Scholar:

Your Dad was correct to a degree. One of the ways that Britain encouraged the settling of the Canadas was by offering free land and zero taxation. That said, Britain felt it neccessary to have a significant population on the U.S.'s doorstep, and thus maintained a (somewhat) significant garrison here. On the whole, the colonies may have been a net loss for the British, but in the strategic sense, it was considered an important military outpost.

PINMF!

Dementia is a very sad thing to witness.
(Or can anyone give me another explanation for this?)

And it was an ill-advised abuse and misunderstanding from London of the colonials that caused them one by one to renounce that oath and take up weapons against our own king.

Well, that speaks volumes. You "bend-over-backwards-and-screw-America" as*hole.

Civil War? Don't get me started on the Civil war.

Our President lied! He said the war was to preserve the union and what does he do? Free the slaves? WTF? Here we go to war and the leader of our nation lied to us? Lincoln lied and 650,000 died!

During the hotly contested elections of 1864, Democratic challenger Geroge McClellan (a decorated general best known for organized retreats) said that he would get us out of the war by simply appeasing the Southern States by getting rid of this emancipation crap. Why should we die for slaves? Why should these people be free?

Isn't it amazing that 140 years later, the Democrats still haven't changed their positions?

#70 Bob with one O

How did this guy get to be Pres?

Because Nixon came before him and people wanted someone innocent.

What was Carter's reaction to the Indonesian genocide in E. Timor?

Isn't it time Carter was confined to home with his Alzheimer's? Or could he really be so incredibly stoo-ooo-pid-d-d-d-d?

Can't believe I voted for him against the man who fell out of airplanes. Perhaps I can use the "dumb kid" excuse for that, but he can't!

#90 BIG

Lincold lied; people died.

#63 RWC

"That is fuc*ing it...the Democratic Party...until they clean house...are no more, gone, bye-bye, adios, frickin' nutjobs.

Don't do that to me. I really can't LOL like that. It hurts my back.

Al

If only the Confederacy had been a little more sensitive to the slaves.

If only Hitler had been a little more sensitive to the Allies.

If only the North Koreans had been a little more sensitive to the South Koreans.

#48 foreign devil

And we're a coffee-drinking nation to this day, thank heaven. :)

Let's turn the argument around the way it should be:

The Holocaust would have been unnecessary if Chamberlain and Stalin had not negotiated with Hitler and just gone in and kicked his ass in 1938.

It's the negotiations that lead to the disasters. War -- and the threat of war -- is what keeps the bad guys in line. Evil men and those with ill-intentions use talk to their advantage. Jimmy, John and their ilk still don't realize that, for reasons I can't fathom.

I think he's making the point that the war can be won (sometimes, not all) without firing a shot.'

i.e. The Cold War, Libya, hopefully red-China!! Vietnam was a massive military failure, proving that 'solution' does not always work.

Sometimes the change has to come from within, like in Russia's case with glasnost.

In the US Civil War period, it has been argued that slavery would have ended on its own in due course, as the world moved toward the industrial age. And the US vs. US carnage and deaths could have been avoided.

If Canada gained independence without a war, it's likely the US would have gained the same, so I agree with Carter.

There are voices of democracy and reform in Iran. They will be heard at some point. It's not up to us to try to impose laws on them. That just makes them unify instead and hate the US/Israel axis.

It's hard to know where to begin with this nitwit.
But if there is a photo of Carter, Michael Moore, and John Kerry at the DNC convention, the RNC should use it as a still picture in their next ad.

Just that picture on the screen for 30 seconds.

#92 Jonny:

What was Carter's reaction to the Indonesian genocide in E. Timor?

He described it as "insensitive", I think.

Had the British Parliament been a little more sensitive


What PC hog wash is that? He has lost his marbles. I guess that goes to show you how Anti America he is, He wishes the US had not even started.

Had the British Parliament been a little more sensitive

OT

Simon Tisdall putting the al in al-Guardian:

Bush and Kerry dance to the tune of Ariel Sharon

I was a teenager when he was governor of Georgia...sadly he wasn't much different.

Crack kills, Jimmy!

Had the British Parliament been a little more sensitive

Garbage!

Fritz's Thoughts

#76

We're still wishing he would march to the sea.

If anyone here is old enough to have voted for Jimmeh, I have one question to ask: exactly why did anyone ever think this crackpot was Presidential material?

#94 scaramouche

I actually did a much longer rant about the 1864 elections on another blog. I'll have to go find it and post it here. It's scary how history keeps repeating itself.

OT:

Mark Hyman from Sinclair compared Dems against "Stolen Honor" to holocaust deniers.

This is news. I can't change the fact that these people decided to come forward today. The networks had this opportunity over a month ago to speak with these people. They chose to suppress them. They chose to ignore them. They are acting like Holocaust deniers, pretending these men don't exist.

Here: [Link: transcripts.cnn.com...]

However, the Jewish ADL wasn't too happy about that:
[Link: www.adl.org...]

Oh, I get it... he's trying to make a parallel between Britain in 1776 and the US in 2003... and since he's "right", there's no reason for facts to get in the way of his argument. Never mind that little thing where Britain was enforcing a tyranny, and we were freeing the Iraqis from one.

#99 NBK062 wrote:

I think he's making the point that the war can be won (sometimes, not all) without firing a shot. i.e. The Cold War,

That is one ignorant statement.

#81 scaramouche

If you want to see Hollywood liberals get a dose of anti-idiotarianism go and see "Team America*".

*if you're not put off by the kind of vulgarity often displayed on south park.

Nothing worth fighting for, nothing worth killing for, nothing worth dying form, right Jimmy? Just gotta sit down at Camp David and work it all out.

It really is an amazing admission for someone who once led America. I saw some of this in the things he has said in the past, especially when he came out with a novel about the Revolutionary War. But I never expected him to be this open about his doubts concerning America's creation.

Think about it. He prefers America to be more like Canada and India. Then the left cringes when you bring up words like "global test". The American left's distaste for what America now is I think is exposed by comments like those made by Jimmy Carter.

Hey, I'm Canadian. I love Canada. Don't want it to be America. Just as I would assume that most good American patriots wouldn't want America to be Canada.

What a stunning remark coming from Jimmy Carter.

[Link: cybermenace.blogspot.com...]

I think Rosaline forgot to give Jimmmah his meds this morning...

Now I see why those "I'm With Stupid" t-shirts were so popular in the late 1970s.

#99 NBK062:

Canada wsa peacefully granted limited independance because the Queen at the time was a mite bit smarter than Mad King George and she'd learned her lesson from the American Revolution. Thus, it is unlikely that Canada would have had such a peaceful transition had the Revolution occured.

We had a couple of minor revolutions as well, but they tended more to the drunken rioting kind of revolution, rather than the militarily organized type.

#103 SCJ; from your link--

It was Israel that, as far back as 1967, perfected the concept of pre-emptive war.

AHHH [restraining urge to claw my own eyes out]

#107 If anyone here is old enough to have voted for Jimmeh, I have one question to ask: exactly why did anyone ever think this crackpot was Presidential material?

I was old enough to vote for Jimmah, but I didn't. I voted for Ford. I think Ford suffered because of the Nixon connection, and the press portrayal of him as an idiot. So I can understand why some folks thought, well, time for a change. Pity the change was for the worse.

#107 danightman

I turned 18 in 1976 and the kids in high school said they were going to vote for Jimma because he promised to legalize pot.

{still floored by this assmunch's statement}

Unbelievable.

Just when I thought I had heard it all from the looney left... I... I... BRAIN FREEZE !!!

One word: Dementia

99 did you miss a sarcasm tag?
Libya turned around because of what we were about to do in Iraq. Qaddafi did not suddenly see the light, he didn't want to wind up in a spider hole.

"War is not the answer." Well, it depends on what the question is.

Carter is showing signs of dementia. I don't think I'll say anything mean. If I had a microphone I would not put it in front of his face. The obviously false statement about the Revolutionary War is only one sign his grip on reality has become tenuous at best.

Hey Jhimmuh,

If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle!

What do you expect from someone (Jimma) who swore he saw a killer rabbit?

#99 NBK062 wrote:

I think he's making the point that the war can be won (sometimes, not all) without firing a shot. i.e. The Cold War,

Yes, this is valid, since England and America had a policy of Mutually Assured Destruction (back in 1776), the revolutionary war would have been won without firing a shot.

In 1788, under an arms reduction treaty, the Americans and the British both destroyed all their nuclear weapons, but scrambled to rebuild them when they learnt that nazi germany was working on one.

/yeah right!

#95 Al di Grandpa

Sorry my friend. But, it could be taken as a joke, but if sh*tbrick Kerry wins, prepare for a long, long, long term...

"Terrorism is a nuisance"

God, he sounds like Reagan used to.

118 Occasional reader- didn't Israel pass on a pre emptive war in 1973- and nearly lose because of it?

Our next Secretary of State...sigh...

Or UN Ambassador...

On the other hand, if Bush does win, and Kofi gets dragged down any further by the Oil-for-Fraud investigation, Jimmuh just might wind up as Secretary General.

Oopps, that had a sudden laxative effect on me...gotta go...

#130 Quimmelton

Buzz off.

#111

Last time I checked NATO did not invade the USSR to bring an end to Communism. Lech Walesa, Pope JPII, Reagan, Gorby, and many many others contributed to the fall. Most of the change was initiated from within. The day the Berlin Wall fell, it caught everyone by surprise, and no shots were fired.

These aren't FACTS? There was an invasion that day?

Jimmy's right -- we should have achieved our independence the way India did: live for 100 years under servitude, and then see 1 million people killed in a partition of the country! (In our case it would have been North/South). Brilliant.

Oh yes, that good ol' nonviolence works every time.

You should read what the treatments were that King George got for his ailments.
He didn't speak much, if any English language. He spoke German.
The colonists did petition the Crown for their grievances. Ignorred.

Jimmah's answers might indicate a tad of Alzheimers coming on. My family member was afflicted and could come up with some bizarre scenarios.

I think Chris Mathews is looking for job as Kerry Press Secretary.
my two cents

This is Carter's take on the hostage crisis:

They made a serious mistake which brought catastrophe on their country, and Iran has never recovered its international prestige and its influence that they lost during that ill-advised experience.

What can you say? Nobody would agree with this assessment outside of the voices in his head.

#130:

God, he sounds like Reagan used to.

You mean, when he said unsophisticated, non-nuanced things like, "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall"?

Say, have you seen the Berlin Wall lately?

FOAD.

107 danightman- Jimmah was the first of the "I'm not from Washington and we need an outsider" (because insiders brought you Watergate, Vietnam, inflation, etc.)
His best quote- " in a democracy people get the government they deserve." Hunter S. Thompson said he figured Carter was right on that one.

Well, one parallel is that the Revolutionary War, more than any other war up until recently, has been the most bloody war we’ve fought.

Numbers Killed in Action:

Revolutionary War: 4,435

Korean War: 33,651
Vietnam War: 47,369
World War I: 53,513
Civil War: 184,594
World War II: 292,131

#130 Quimmelton

Care to explain that, or was it just a poop-and-run?

#99 NBK062

Actually, Iran is the one place in the middle east (not counting Israel) where a significant minority of the population loves the United States. Why? Because we're their government's official enemy, and because they hate their own government.

If we made an alliance with the Iranian goverment that would make "them unify instead and hate the US/Israel axis."

Anyway our current worry is that a Nuclear armed Iran will make good on (former Iranian President) Rafsanjani's promise to use their nukes on Israel as soon as they got them. The most likely scenario being that they'd secretly hand them over to terrorists (such as Hezbolla) and not take credit for the ensuing slaughter.

As for freedom eventually coming automatically to a fascist state, all I can say is that this sounds self-deluding wishful thinking. You might wish that a fascist state will automatically evolve, but there's hardly reason to believe that it will - rather it will find enemies, and keep wars going to destract it's people forever. Thus, jihad, terrorism and Israel...

Djimmy Carter:

Dumbest. President. Ever...

#134 NBK062:

Last time I checked NATO did not invade the USSR to bring an end to Communism.

Last time I checked, just a few shots were fired along the way in the Korean peninsula, former French Indochina, Central America...

The Cold War was not won by "sensitivity".

#108 BIG

It's scary how history keeps repeating itself.

Yup. I've been reading recently about all the Jews in FDR's administration and how they convinced him to go to war.

#112 Jonny

While I applaud any effort to skewer the pretentions of Hollywood leftists, I think the ability to sit through South Park and other stuff engendered by those guys is determined primarily by gender: us chicks just can't seem to do it.

Had the British Parliament been a little more sensitive to the colonial’s really legitimate complaints and requests the war could have been avoided completely, and of course now we would have been a free country now as is Canada and India and Australia, having gotten our independence in a nonviolent way.

I don't see anything particularly outrageous. Of course the British could have avoided the war, if they had been a bit smarter. If they had been more conciliatory toward the colonies, they probably could have postponed independence for years by dribbling out concessions. But Britain was a superpower for that era, so it is easy to see how they could thought they could push around a bunch of colonists, and underestimated the difficulty of fighting such a war. They probably had to get whipped to realize that such an approach was doomed to failure.

#20 Frank:
Damn. Carter was the wrong man at the wrong time. Bar none. Damn.

#138 Occasional Reader

More like "I don't recall."

Look, there comes a certain age when people start losing it. Carter is obviously well past it and Reagan was getting there, I remember '87, not exactly in his prime there.

#143 Crapulentis_Sum 
Djimmy Carter:
Dumbest. President. Ever...

I'm not so sure about that one. Andrew Johnson and Herbert Hoover might give him a run for his money. Let's just say he's definitely in the top five.

Thom #79

Dhimmi Carter is a fucking asshole and an idiot if he'd throw away our history.

I've only voted for one Democrat for president ever, and I'm not admitting which one.

There is a lot of merit to a Lifetime Achievement Award, or The Jimmy. There are some who are consisitently idiotarian year-after-year, but never mange to rise to the top. Then there's Jimmy who'd win every year if not for the no repeat winners rule.

So now Jimmy Carter is applying Political Correctness to our History and letting the hilarity ensue!

Perhaps if Hitler was more sensitive then World War II would have been unnecessary too.

and of course now we would have been a free country now as is Canada and India and Australia, having gotten our independence in a nonviolent way.

Precisely because we demonstrated that the British couldn't field an army across the Atlantic to defend the Colonies, it was pretty darned obvious that they couldn't do so across the Pacific or the Himalayas. The Brits knew it, the colonies knew it, and they dealt with it.

Our revolution, in varying degrees, won those countries their independence in the same way that OIF won the immediate, unconditional cessation and renunciation of WMD programs by Libya. Occasionally, an example must be made, "pour l'encouragement de d'autres". There. Even Kerry ought to be able to understand that.

#88 Jim in Virginia:

Dementia is a very sad thing to witness.
(Or can anyone give me another explanation for this?)

Liberalism. See post #99. There isn't a tyrant or a tyranny liberals won't protect from the threats of freedom, democracy and human rights.

...do you see any parallels between the fighting that we did on our side and the fighting that is going on in Iraq today?

Who is more retarded, Carter who believes that the Revolutionary War was unnecessary, or Matthew who invites a comparison between islamofascists and the Minutemen?!?

#134 NBK062

Your stupidity is appalling. The history of the Cold War is one of a series of proxy wars between the West and the Soviet Union and China. Thousands upon thousands died and many "shots were fired". That the Cold War ended without some kind of invasion of Russia is meaningless.

just want to save my name here. test...

#74 Shan -- "I'm sure Ben Franklin would be shocked by this. "

Ben Franklin? Can you imagine John Adams?!

Well, in God's own good time, Jimmy will get to meet his 72 Virginians. :-)

#148:

I remember '87

I do, too. And that's when he said "tear down this wall". June 12, to be exact.

#142 "Actually, Iran is the one place in the middle east (not counting Israel) where a significant minority of the population loves the United States. Why? Because we're their government's official enemy, and because they hate their own government."

This sounds dangerous. Are they going to welcome us with flowers too? Nobody wants Whitey to come in and impose laws, which is what the US tried to accomplish in Vietnam and there are paralells in Iraq.

That Iran population that may love the US of A, will rally around their kin if invaded. So it seems we should support the Iranians that want democracy in the same way we handled the Cold War. An invasion will turn moderates against us. That is what Iraq has proven.

And change will have to come from within, not be imposed. The USA cannot expect to just work over militarily 500 million Middle Easterners and have everything be rosy. It cannot work, not to mention the cost $$$.

#99

Vietnam was not a military failure, it was a political one. Our military won every single battle that was asked of it. The Tet Offensive was an utter military disaster for the Vietcong. If the politics were left out of it and our troops were allowed to move into the North, Vietnam would have been a happy democratic state today and a million civilians wouldn't have been slaughtered in Laos and Cambodia, plus we wouldn't have all these damned LLLs screaming "Vietnam! Vietnam" whenever the US gets involved in a war.

#155 Capt. Queeg

The history of the Cold War is one of a series of proxy wars between the West and the Soviet Union and China. Thousands upon thousands died and many "shots were fired".

Korea and Vietnam immediately come to mind.

CARTER: Well, I think almost any reasonable person who knew history would say that you can‘t go into an alien environment and force by rule of arms by forcing the people to adopt a strange concept.

What about Germany and Japan after WWII ... I can't believe that Jimmy is a historian let alone a former President ... please send stem cells to Plaines, GA

Whoops, I see Occasional Reader covered the Korea/Vietnam/Cold War example. Sorry.

#150 a.k.a. Will

I can even picture the prize (drawn by C&F of course):

One of those big hockey type cups in the shape of Dhimmi's grinning countenance, perhaps with the texture of a peanut shell. Inscription:

Dhimmi Carter Award for Lifetime Idiotarian Achievement

#153 Model4

And what do you call hawkish liberalism? I know it seems like pacifism is part of the dogma these days, but pacifism sounds to me like NEW stupidity, it can't always have been a invarient fixture of all liberal thought.

You know, there are no useful schools of thought if you let each concept and each movment be defined by idiots.

#128 Jonny

LOL. That was a nice fact bomb you just dropped there.

Our letter-number combo also said this:

Most of the change was initiated from within.

I'm not even sure what that means. I know that Reagan scared the crap out of the Soviets. The hardline Soviet generals who said a nuclear war could be won were marginalized.

I like this quote from the Carlin interview talking about his book entitled ("When will Jesus Bring In the Pork Chops?"):

CARLIN: It doesn‘t mean anything in particular. What I like about it is that it offends all three major religions around the world and in addition to the vegetarians.

Hahahaha, George, that's so f**king clever. When did you stop being funny???

Jimmy Carter was the John Kerry of his time.

No one really knew anything about him, they didn't look very hard. All anyone knew was one thing; he didn't have any apparent scandals about him.

Post Nixon, that was good enough for just enough voters.

Kerry? No one knew him. He runs as a "war hero" who might appeal to people who perceive the incumbant a failure in that regard. Like Carter, his hope is that the mere symbolism will suffice.

#158 Occasional Reader

"Facts are stupid things" -Reagan, 1988 misquoting John Adams who said "Facts are stubborn things"

OT

Have any of you seen this "progressive" movement to swap nader/3rd party votes in decided states for kerry votes in battleground states???

www.votepair.org

is there any level they will not stoop to?

maybe all of the LGF'ers in battleground states ought to go on over and pledge their votes to kerry. stop up their system...

unbelievable! how can this even be legal??

Jimmuh must be getting into Algore's meds.

What's with that crap about turning against "our king"?

Americans bow to no king!

#169:

Oh my GOD! I had forgotten that Reagan misquoted John Adams by one word! Yep, that's clearly evidence of advanced dementia.

/sarcasm

From yesterday's thread - #276

RE: 'Ol Jimmy the Ignorant

You only had to live through his administration to realize how ignorant and DANGEROUS he was.

My fav. Chapter about him was in Secrets of the Temple: How the Federal Reserve Runs the Country .

After the CIA and the NSA had to get out globes and maps to show 'Ol Jimmy where countries were, and after floundering for months, Bert Lance indicted for Bank Fraud back in Atlanta and resigned the cabinet,
he abandons the Shah to Khomeini followers, AND fires his whole cabinet in one night. SH___T ! Wall Street Freaked within weeks average home mortgage rates were over 15% and Bank Prime lending rates to their best customers hit 21%.

We got a new economic phrase thanks to 'Ol Jimmy "StagFlation" e.g. stagnant economy with high double digit inflation. BTW 'Ol Jimmy HATED Paul Volker, but Wall Street convinced Jimmy that unless he appointed Volker, Fed. Chairman, game over.

Considering the work he's been doing since 1999 shilling for Gore then the LLL underground, now this, he should be given cognative tests every 90 days for Alzheimers.
___

#276 Brian Hoitt

Brian Mathews is a narcissist. Just another entertainer selling adult diapers, beer and apparently 'Ol Jimmy's lame book.

Since when do expect narcissistic entertainers to know anything beyond Jr. High History, and NOT shill for Kedwards ?

CARTER: Well, one parallel is that the Revolutionary War, more than any other war up until recently, has been the most bloody war we’ve fought.

Horse Hockey!!!

If that is what his idea of being a historian is about, he might just want to look at little known thing that happened...oh like 1861-1865, to the tune of about 620,000 casualties!

The Revolutionary War is no where near that. His history is just like his politics...Bass ackwards!

#107 danightman -- "If anyone here is old enough to have voted for Jimmeh, I have one question to ask: exactly why did anyone ever think this crackpot was Presidential material?"

I admit to voting for Carter in his first term and I was a Republican. I did so because I felt that Nixon, despite his accomplishments, had shamed the Party and the Presidency with Watergate and the subsequent coverup. I wanted all the Haldeman's, Erlichman's and Dean's embedded in government swept clean. My only regret is that the same soiling of the Whitehouse and worse occured under Clinton, and the scumbag's minions are still soiling the government. If the Dems cared as much about the integrity of Government, guys like Joe Wilson and Sandy Berger would be doing time instead of getting airtime.

#125 Beagle

The obviously false statement about the Revolutionary War is only one sign his grip on reality has become tenuous at best.

Hi Beagle! How are the pups? Molly sends kisses.

But you're wrong on this one. If the man didn't have a history of uttering lunacies, I might give you the point. But he does and it's a long one. And every one comes from moral vanity. Carter suffers from the stupidity of the truly arrogant.

So, that does raise a question: If and when dementia sets in, how would we know? (Stolen from my thought experiment "When Keith Richards dies, how will we tell?")

will someone please wake me up from this nightmare...

Jimmy Carter: Worst President of the 20th century; worst ex-President of the 21st. Idiotarian emeritus.

Had the English Parliament been a little more sensitive...

Unfortunately classes in "sensitivity training" were not available in the 18th century.

The Revolutionary War, more than any war up until recently, has been the most bloody war we've fought.

This comment can't stand up to any criticism, but is Carter actually comparing the American Revolution to the war in Iraq? Probably, after all, he did sit with Michael al-Moore during the Democrat convention and al-Moore is on record comparing Iraqi terrorists to the Minutemen.

Apologize, George W. Bush!!!

Apologize for fighting an unwinable war. Apologize for failing to win that unwinable war before the All-Star break. Apologize for fighting the insurgents too aggressively, and apologize for showing them too much mercy. Apologize for forcing democracy and freedom upon the mere 85% of Iraqis who desire them. Apologize for ignoring the thoughtful and nuanced objections of some civilian-bombing terrorists in the Sunni Triangle. Apologize for not sending enough troops and apologize for taking too many troops away from their homes and families. Apologize for…oh, apologize for something. It really doesn't matter what. Just admit that you were wrong about something important. It's ever so much easier to defeat your arguments when you concede them to us first.

Apologize, George W. Bush, because there's something delicious about watching righteous men eat their words. You won't be so quick to dismiss nuances and overtones and penumbras when you have a shame-faced apology sticking in your craw. And when we've neutralized your moralizing tone, it will be vastly easier to neutralize the popular, we're-the-good-guys morality that you propound. Oh, we could take the high road, of course, and praise an apology as a dignified gesture that will help to heal the bitter divisions in our society. But we won't. Your apology will be reduced to a lurid sound-bite on some vicious DNC advertisement that mocks your confident faith and uncompromising principles. And let's not even think about how America's enemies will use your apology to undermine your credibility. Get used to the smell of your apology, George W. Bush. It will be rubbed in your nose until the day you die.

Apologize, George W. Bush, even though official apologies are invariably useless. When a government official "apologizes" and "takes full responsibility," you can be certain that the official isn't sorry, and plans on doing nothing. Bill Clinton apologized for slavery -- not that it made a difference to anyone, anywhere. Janet Reno took full responsibility for the Waco debacle -- not that she or anyone else lost their job over it. Apologies don't bring the dead back to life, and they don't fix failed policies. In wartime particularly, it's better to actually change flawed policies than to engage in the ritualized Kabuki theater of apologies and lamentations and public self-flagellation. It would be enlightening to examine whether the Bush administration has, in fact, changed its policies when they have proven unsuccessful. But such an examination isn't as much fun as demanding public repentance.

Apologize, George W. Bush, although wartime presidents never do. Roosevelt didn't apologize. Truman didn't apologize. Neither did Eisenhower, Johnson, Kennedy, or Nixon. Every wartime president has made mistakes -- sometimes ghastly mistakes that cost the lives of soldiers and civilians. But no one ever demanded apologies from those presidents, perhaps because Americans used to understand that war is an inherently chaotic and unpredictable thing in which awful mistakes will always be made.

the ONLY vote I would cast in Jimmy Carter's favor is for idiot of the year. Keep to building houses and growing peanuts, Jimmy.

#162 Son of Semper Fi: Shhh... NBK062 said that couldn't happened, so it must not have. He's already played the race card, already played the Yahoodi card... I'm curious to see where this goes.

Aaaargh...sorry Charles. Sorry everyone. I did not mean to cut&paste that much of it. :-(

NBK062 sounds familiar. I'm thinking it's a previously banned troll. They all sound so much alike with their generic talking points. It's giving us lessons on the Iraq experience now. How much do you want to bet it's never read an Iraqi blog?

So the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights, the United States Constitution... our entire Republic... is the result of an "unnecessary war" because just 175 years later Britain woulda let us be on our way...

This from the worst President of the United States in the history of our country... the supreme (D)... the man whose NorthKorean appeasement may yet result in a nuclear weapons exchange and whose Iranian appeasement gave us the very Islamci "republic" building nuclear weapons while supporting terrorism world wide.

#99

You are correct about the US military winning the battles, and Tet being a desperate move by the enemy.

I dunno about the populace though. We had years to convince the people of the South and we never even accomplished that, let alone the North too.

Our soldiers did even know which citizens in the South were for or against us.

The majority of the Vietnamese people just wanted Whitey gone, whether French or USA. Iraq is no different at this point.

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"The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not "insurgents" or "terrorists" or "The Enemy." They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow -- and they will win." -- Michael Mhore

The Revolutionary War Was "Unnecessary"

People, people, people you must remember... This war, The Revolutionary war, would not have passed the, "Global Test"

Still a minority, but good news:

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#38 studsup

Minimizing the accomplishments of our forefathers, declaring our fight to win independence as unnecessary

How does pointing out the rather obvious fact that the war was a mistake on the part of the British minimize the accomplishments of our forefathers? Of course the British made a mistake! They lost! When you lose a war, it generally means that you made a mistake--either you made a mistake in the way you fought the war, or you made a mistake by thinking that you had a chance of winning in the first place.

The fact that the British screwed up by trying to put down the Revolution instead of offering concessions does not in any way minimize the achievements of our Revolutionary War heroes. Yes, the British almost certainly could have avoided the war. Most colonists started out loyal to Britain, and were reluctant to fight a country to which they still had ties. But even if they could have avoided the war, the fact is that they didn't, and that was what made the Revolutionary War necessary.

Right Wing Conspirator/EE

Excellent link.

#99 NBK:

There are voices of democracy and reform in Iran. They will be heard at some point.

Will that point be coming before, or after, the mullahs join the Nuclear Club? If it looks like the latter, I'm in favor of hastening along the former, perhaps with some precision strikes using the F-32 Clobbersaurus.

fuck you simon tisdall, fuck you al guardian, fuck you brent scrowcroft, fuck you jimmy carter, fuck all of y'all...

is it nov 3 yet?...

aarrrgghhh !!!

#186 traveler

Hey Everybody! Summer's Eve is Back!!!

Hit the tip jar!

My thoughts exactly.

pssst...Charles...5 percent sound fair ;-)

Thom #164

I can even picture the prize (drawn by C&F of course):

A big, self-satisfied, clueless, toothy grin.

#159 NBK062

Yes of course, most Muslims will never accept an infidel invader even if he's a liberator. That's one thing we learned from Iraq.

But I don't think we need to invade to free Iranians, I think we need to topple this regime because the time has run out to prevent them from going nuclear and bringing their terrorist network with them.

The best way to handle this? Well the best isn't good, but it's better than the worst, eh.

People never really grasped the obvious:

Destruction is always easy. If your family has been touched by violence then you know that it only takes one digusting wretch with a gun or knife to destroy any life, no matter how valued... But technology is the lever that makes it possible for any hater kill 10, or with a bomb 100 or with, say a pinch of weaponized anthrax into a ventalation system, a thousand, or with a nuke, a hundred thousand or more...

Destruction is easy to achieve, and protection almost impossible. So we can't afford to give the haters of the world any more time. The technology is too available, and they're obviously reaching for it.

Another thing people don't grasp is just how sick and bigoted middle eastern society often is... But I don't have the strength to detail that for you. I'll just say that many places, people want blood and they want lots of it and they're teaching their children to want it too.

May whatever God you pray to, save this Country. For if john kerry and john edwards win this election, they will not.

#98 Zombie

It's the negotiations that lead to the disasters. War -- and the threat of war -- is what keeps the bad guys in line. Evil men and those with ill-intentions use talk to their advantage. Jimmy, John and their ilk still don't realize that, for reasons I can't fathom.

As a guy who photoarchives Bezerkely and San Francisco rallies, I would have figured you would have understood this by now.

It's their Ideology that makes them moronic

Intellectual Morons : How Ideology Makes Smart People Fall for Stupid Ideas

This is effed up.

Jimmah needs to quit smoking them aflatoxin-laced peanuts, ah reckon.

James Earl Carter means well. But then, so do many other bumbling incompetents. I won't defend Gerald Ford and Richard Nixon's pandering to liberals with big government programs and allowing inflation. But Carter's "I will not lie to you." should have been followed up with "but I will steal from you."

Inflation is a tax, and we paid the inflation tax very heavily under Carter, and government revenues ballooned because of it. Carter, of all people, is the last to say what is necessary or not. He wasn't even able to realize that what was necessary then was tax cuts and inflation fighting, when he was President.

And now many of the people leading the attack against Bush are Carter holdovers, accusing Bush of being a failure. But they should know more about failure than any Administration

Carter just has vowels in the mouth because he is soft on Saddam, and has been since he was in office.

JIMMUH! JIMMUH! JIMMUH!

Why so angry, grasshopper???

Could it be that like Al Gore you lost to a legend with balls of steel?

Could it be that your Glass House of Liberalism is crashing down all around you?

Jimmuh need a hug???

#175 Studsup

I also voted for Carter in 1976 for the same reasons as you did---it was the biggest mistake of my politcal life.
I atoned by voting for Reagan in 1980--- but the damage was done. Can you imagine what additional disasters would have occured had Carter been re-elected? I really think that four more years of Jimmy's incompetence, dithering and malaise may have been fatal to America, Israel and the West.

#191 RIP Ford

Thanks. I hope you read through all of it. I love the way it closes -

Apologize, George W. Bush, even though the mistakes are ours.

#188 Elcid

How are you finding Bethlehem, PA? My old stomping grounds...(lots different from PCB, yes?)

I am Canadian and the ass hole British would never had granted the very limited freedom in Canada today.
AS for Egypt they are promoting anti-Semitism every day.
They lie about plane crash.
The only thing they did not do was attack Israel directly is because the Egyptian would be beaten badly and ant land acquired should be Israeli.
Jimmy you should have given Iran 24 hours to hand over the hostage and their capture if not Iran would be a sandpit.

#195 a.k.a. Will

Yes!

I'm trying to come up with a less competent head of state in all history than Jimmy Carter. I think he edges out Nero. Any other suggestions?

I'm certain his amnesty for Vietnam draft dodgers alone has done more harm to this country than any act of treason in our history, including Oppenheimer giving nuclear secrets to Stalin.

I nominate Jimmy Carter for the not so prestigious "Road to Hell Lifetime Acheivment Award"

#203 Right Wing Conspirator

Yup. Excellent rant! I hope everyone takes it in.

QUICK! CNN--Lou Dobbs on now! HEADS UP!!

Douglas Brinkley who wrote the biography on Kerry and has had a change of heart since and now thinks Kerry lied to him is coming on as Lou's guest shortly!

#176 grayp

I'm pretty good. Thanks for asking. How is terrorizing the Saudis with a harmless beagle going? That's one of the funniest things I've ever heard.

I agree with the we'll never know when Carter is crazy position. I can only imagine how he cooked the Revolutionary War numbers to arrive at his nutty conclusion. Did he count women who died during childbirth?

#207 CCR

Oppenheimer did not give nuclear secrets to the Soviets. Are you thinking of Klaus Fuchs?

So Billy got all the brains...

who'da thunk it??

Ugh. I just read the entire interview. Matthews is actually worse than Carter.

"MATTHEWS: What do you make of this new philosophy, Mr. President, that we can go into countries like Iraq and that we can use our force of arms and our economic might to transform them into democracies? It‘s the new conservative philosophy. It‘s the Bush doctrine, whatever you want to call it. What do you make of it?"

It's new? Conservative?

Hey Chris, you dolt, you stupid freaking dolt, why don't ask the Japanese and Germans if they think the idea of using our force of arms and economic strength might transform them into democracies?

Chris, did you spend your entire childhood and adult life watch sitcoms or something? What did you do with the money you mother gave you to pay tuition?

#207 CCR 10/19/2004 03:11PM PST

I'm trying to come up with a less competent head of state in all history than Jimmy Carter. I think he edges out Nero. Any other suggestions?

Pol Pot (and his cronies) of the Kymer Rouge comes to mind and he ruled about the same time as Carter. Coincedence or not ?...

"Bloodiest war until recently"

I assume he forgot about the civil war, and WWI and WWII. The next biggest would then be vietnam? and in second to last place we have the 2nd Gulf War. As Phil Hendrie would say "you need a check-up from the neck up."

#129 RWC

I'm with you! If I didn't laugh sometimes, I'd cry.
It sounded as if Carter's bizarre statement was the last straw for you. "This is fu*king it..." struck me funny.
Much of the really great posts on LGF have wonderful humor included. And that says a lot about us.

I know that is not true on the KOS, DU, and other LLL blogs. Hate precludes humor. It even trumps intelligence. In a way we should feel sorry for them.

A

I feel terrible! My first voting experience was to vote for Jimmy in the primaries. Of course, at that time, everyone thought he would legalize marajuana. Instead we got 15+% unemployment, where I lived. Thanks Jimmy!

Hey, didn't Jimmy Carter get rich from the Government subsidizing peanut farmers?

#213 Studsup

Its "Chrissy" Matthews. He's been neutered. Besides you do know he is a Democratic shill, since he worked in the Clinton White House? Right?

The terrorists may prepare for a big operation in the next 2 weeks before the US election. The aim is to direct the wind against GWB ship. , writes Sam ,an Iraqi Blogger

#219

Could be. HOPE NOT.

At least Spain caught some guys. Those cells in the USA that they were 'communicating with' are still out there. Scary.

#217 shrewd-attitude

Hey, didn't Jimmy Carter get rich from the Government subsidizing peanut farmers?

Yup.

Peanuts -- Supply Quotas Cost Consumers

Every year the USDA establishes a quota on the number of pounds of peanuts that can be grown for domestic consumption. It distributes these quotas to peanut farmers who have a license to grow peanuts. It is illegal to produce and domestically sell peanuts in the United States without a USDA license.

"we could have gotten independence bloodlessly like canada and india."

Ever hear of a little thing called 'another hundred years of colonial oppression' ? Not to mention it's naive to think that modern / free U.S. had no influence on Britian's policy on colonies.

#219 stefania

In the end no people on earth will hate Islamists more than Iraqis.

We win.

I've not read EVERY post above and I'm sure someone has said this before, but if so it bears repeating:

How can a former president of the US fail to understand what a revolutionary concept the US was when formed? How can he fail to understand that this whole "government of the people" was a re-invention of the founding fathers/a result of the revolutionary war?

No, Jimmah, no. IF the revolutionary war hadn't happened we wouldn't be "free like Canada and India." It would be all princes and potentates as far as the eye can see and no man would be a citizen but all would be subjects.

I like this world betterthan Jimmah's little wonderland.

I was in Sweden when the hostages were taken in Iran. To a person, the Swedes expected war within days. They asked if I'd be going home when the draft started.

Then, day after day: nothing. How Carter survived the humiliation of inaction explains a great about the man whom Kerry emulates.

The man couldn't even mount a rescue effort, FGS!

#282 Paul -- "I atoned by voting for Reagan in 1980--- but the damage was done. Can you imagine what additional disasters would have occured had Carter been re-elected?"

I took the same prescription. I could never have imagined Carter to have been so ineffective. The seeds of the present day Carter were there to be seen. He blamed the US people for their problems, he never accepted any personal responsibility for anything he did or failed to do. All those traits are coming out now in very ugly ways in this man.

I saw a documentary available on DVD about the "Miracle on Ice". The recent movie was pretty good, but this documentary was even better. The stage was set by casting the 1980 Olympics against the backdrop of the national and international scene. Voiceovers of Carter's "lectures" (can't bring myself to call them speeches) to America are part of that backdrop. Just hearing them now makes you grind your teeth. He was awful, a defeatist and a man you really hated what was great about America. He hated it, because he has none of that greatness in his character.

204 grayp

Email me, I'll tell ya' all about it.

I'm starting to believe we've really taken out the terrorists' A team in Iraq in that fact that they've kidnapped that Arabic lady aid worker. What a bunch of dumb bunnies! They're only going to have to let her go. Soneone's going to get a call from Kofi or Chirac, and she'll walk. I give it until tomorrow morning.

#218 Andy

he worked in the Clinton White House?

I don't think so. He was, however, Tip O'Neill's press secretary.

I am horrified this maggot was ever the leader of the free world.

#213 Studsup

Pat Buchanan and Chris Matthews mean the same thing when they talk about new conservatism. It's a euphemism. I'll just leave it at that.

Fact is though, I've been for a more aggressive foreign policy since I began watching what defeatism got us in Vietnam. I was just a little kid, but it was obvious even then that the opponents of the war had more to do with our failure than the North Vietnamese. Carter (for whom Chris Matthews wrote speeches, by the way) was defeatism walking on two legs.

Recommended reading,

The Real Jimmy Carter: How Our Worst Ex-President Undermines American Foreign Policy, Coddles Dictators and Created the Party of Clinton and Kerry
by Steven F. Hayward

#41

There were far more casualties in the Civil War than any other war in American history, not just as a percentage of the population but in raw numbers. I actually took Carter's comment about "until recently" to be a reference to the current situation in Iraq. Can you believe that? I remember his presidency all too well - a total sense of failure and despair on a nationwide basis. This man was the worse president of the modern era, by far. He has now evolved into a bitter, senile, pontificating moron. Just the type of guy the anti-Americans and MSM love.

Wasn't it Carter who said Americans should get used to wearing a sweater, and turning down thermostats?

Just when you think you've heard it all, Jimmy Carter opens his mouth (again). With no lack of competition, Carter is hands down the worst president of my lifetime (I'm on my 11th) - perhaps of the 20th century. His ineptitude in domestic affairs was surpassed only by his ineptitude in foreign affairs. Hard to believe, but he may be an even greater menace in his current role as the worst ex-president of my lifetime. Apparently peanuts aren't brain food.

Was the Civil War "unnecessary" too? After all, slavery's no big deal, right?

Carter: America's first "Internationalist," anti-American president. John Kerry hopes to be the second.

Andy in Agoura Hills

Chris Mathews also worked in the Carter Whitehouse.

#10 Eric, yes, he does sound like he's mid-stream in developing senile dementia and some cynical types are using his vapid pronouncements.

I know THIS is OT and I do apologize but, it's so rich.
Letters from Americans responding the the Brits trying to influence us dumb Americans.

PS If someone else has posted this I apologize. I admit I haven't read all 200 posts.

Even when the Soviet Union was collapsing from the inside, Carter gave them hope. In the late 70's, the Kremlin seriously thought that they might prevail in the cold war. And so did the White House.

OT
Israeli love goddess Natalie Portman soon to be Mrs. Weather Underground.

PORTMAN DATING SON OF KILLERS
Hollywood beauty Natalie Portman is reportedly romancing the son of two infamous American murderers.

The 23-year-old star has been spotted out on dates with university graduate Chesa Boudin, the son of radical Weather Underground members Kathy Boudin and David Gilbert, who were jailed for murder after the notorious Brinks robbery in Nyack, New York, in 1981.

Two police officers and one Brinks employee were killed in the hold-up.

Kathy was released from prison last year on parole, while David remains incarcerated.

But Portman is so attracted to Boudin, she's refusing to let his family history prevent her from sparking up a relationship with him, according to Britain's The Sun newspaper.

What's the matter with this girl? She's the most beautiful Jewish woman in the world and she's dating a member of one of the ultimate anti-morality violent moonbat families?
[...shakes head sadly...]

#140 Galactic

Your numbers seem low.

I respectfully submit to you and inivite all LGFer to visit the following site:

American War Details

I'm retired...so I have the time to find this stuff..and I love doing it.

Al

#242 zombie

Beauty times brains = a constant.

The only conclusion that I can reach is that Jimmy spent just a little too much time around (a) the power plant of 'nuke' boats and (b) Adm. Rickover (another barking loon -- just prior to his long-overdue retirement during the Reagan administration).

That, or the Saturday Night Live skit about his presidential tour of Three Mile Island after the "oops" was actually true.

This is your brain. (picture of healthy brain)

This is your brain exposed to extended non-lethal doses of radiation from submarine power plants (picture of Jimmy)

Any questions?

#242 Zombie

Jeebux Cripes on a Crutch!

Jimmuh's always been an incompetent traitorous leftist nutbag, but this is beyond the pale!

Has anyone had him examined for clinical senility?

Oh, wait... For his brain to go senile, he'd first have to have a brain.

Wotta maroon.

Ship his worthless carcass to Phrawnce.

#236 Mr Pol

Was the Civil War "unnecessary" too? After all, slavery's no big deal, right?

C'mon Mr Pol...get with the lingo...slavery was a "nuisance."

Al di Grandpa

I have reached my end with them far before Carter's comment ;-)

I have to admit I'm undecided about Carter. I'm not sure if he was just the worst President of the 20th century or if he was the worst President in the history of the republic. (I'm leaning towards the latter.) Senior statesman - bah. More like senile statesman.

Josh:

Yes of course, most Muslims will never accept an infidel invader even if he's a liberator. That's one thing we learned from Iraq.

Where do you get this nonsense from?

#140 Galactic Jello

Apologies to you GJ. Upon further review your numbers appear to very accurate, but the site I referenced above contains other detail for those interested.

Al

Has Carter had any counseling lately?

Could he be suffering from Dimmensia?

okay boys and girls, can we say PEACENICK?

#242 Zombie,

How many actors and actresses are so deeply obsessed with a need for attention of any kind that they will do almost anything to get it?

This guy Boudin is a snake, a real snake. If you live in the NYC area, where the families of the victims of his murdering mother live, then you had to endure his smarmy and self-indulgent efforts to insert himself in the public eye. It was all part of the effort to rehabilitate the reputation, in futherance of the release from prison, of his mother. She committed the crimes, not him. But he was a decided fixture in helping to retain her release, and the MSM just loved every bit of what this sick pathetic privileged young man had to say and do.

Boudin herself was a child of privilege. He benefitted from that. Even, I think, went to Yale or some such place. Seems he was underprivileged in not having had a "mother", just like the children of the slain policemen didn't have fathers. Yes, that was the moral equivalency found to be so compelling by our MSM and, apparently, the NY State Parol Board, who remain unaccountable for their injustice in this case.

The absolute lowpoint was when he publicly offered to meet with the widow of one of the slain men in order to stage some orgy of public reconciliation and atonement.

It was pathetic. He was a crass self-seeker. The widow, after retaining silence in the face of all the lies and distortions of the MSM of the poor and misunderstood Ms. Boudin, the felony murderer, finally went public with a statement in response to Mr. Boundin's slimy invitation. The statement was short, firm and to the point. Class in the face of liberal crass.

I hope the misguided Ms. Portman gets everything she wants from this relationship and then some.

#252 song_and_dance_man

Carter is probably the reason so many Americans are allergic to peanuts.

Is Carter trying to equate Washington with Yassir Arafat? That's my read. The colonials were the aggrieved party (a la the PPP) and brits should have welcomed them into a political solution.

OT: Weirdness afoot at Wikipedia

Oh my God, He is senile. It really is kinda sad. Another thing that duct tape could fix, right across his mouth.

Jimmy Carter:
"Had the British Parliament been a little more sensitive to the colonial’s really legitimate complaints and requests the war could have been avoided completely..."

He's probably right. SO WHAT!

Does he think he can change history?

#211: probably.

#214: Could be. I still think Jimmah should get the RTHLTAA though.

To be fair, was war inevitable? Take out the propaganda from the UDI and there are actually very few areas which could not have been negotiated on. The main sticker seems to be treatment of the native americans and I'm sure if old George was enough of a tyrant he'd have OK'd a few massacres if that was what it took to keep the show on the road.

Moron !

246 FlyingTigress

maybe it was that ufo >:)

zombie,

I must repectfully disagree. The world's most beautiful Jewish women are here (intelligence is sexy, you know?).

Nobelist Prescott lauds Bush policies

Americans will spend the next two weeks trying to sort through the differences between President George W. Bush and Democratic challenger Sen. John Kerry on many issues.

But on the economic front, especially when it comes to taxes and economic growth, the president's policies are more likely to bear fruit, according to Arizona's new Nobel Prize laureate.

"That's an easy one," said Edward Prescott, the Arizona State University professor who shared the 2004 Nobel Prize for economics.

"When you cut tax rates, employment always goes up," he said in a phone interview Monday with The Arizona Republic.

Prescott, speaking from Minnesota, where he advises the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis, described Kerry's plan to roll back tax cuts for top wage-earners as counterproductive.

"The idea that you can increase taxes and stimulate the economy is pretty damn stupid," he said.

Bush's campaign on Monday released a letter signed by Prescott and five other Nobel laureates critical of Kerry's proposal to roll back tax reductions for families earning $200,000 or more.

In The Republic interview, he said such a policy would discourage people from working.

"It's easy to get over $200,000 in income with two wage earners in a household," Prescott said. "We want those highly educated, talented people to work."

Jimmah is on to something. Gee we could still be part of the Austro Hungarian Empire if we hadn't fought in WW1.
We could have more German Kings and Queens than we could count. If old Archduke Ferdinand had a good gun control law, maybe we wouldn't have to be in Sarajevo today.

We already have enough Queens.

/sar

#261 overwatch

To be fair, was war inevitable?

Yes. Somebody had to pay for the war against France, and the British people in Great Britain could not afford it.

#242 Zombie

Photo additions to Zombie's Hall of Shame

The same family that produced 'Ol Jimmy, also produced

'Ol Billy - Posing here with " 'Ol Redneck Power 1"

Be sure to read the caption above the signature on the can.

Don't miss the

Picture of Billy's grand opening and the Sad Sad story of the demise of this upstanding diplomat to Libya and entrepreneur.

Carter said:
the Revolutionary War, more than any other war up until recently, has been the most bloody war we’ve fought

I've not read the whole thread but let me make this point (again if it's made above). That's just plain wrong. The bloodiest American war by far was the Civil War. It's not even close.

So either Jimmy Carter is arguing that President Lincoln's "War of Northern Agression against the South" is similar to President Bush's "Wrong War at the Wrong Time in the Wrong Place" or else he's justing making it up as he goes along.

REPEAT: He's talking about the Civil War or else he's stupid. Or Both.

Why is Right Wing Conspirator apologizing on behalf of Evolution's Eve?

Geezus, this proves that Billy is the more rational sibling!

#270 Frank IBC

Why is Right Wing Conspirator apologizing on behalf of Evolution's Eve?

Because he taught her everything she doesn't know.

#126, Son of a Pig and a Monkey

If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle!

If a frog had wings, he wouldn't bump his ass a-hoppin'.

Earth to Frank IBC, Earth to Frank IBC

Leave it alone. You'll figure it out after awhile.

This is Houston/out

#264 Bob with one O 

zombie,
I must repectfully disagree. The world's most beautiful Jewish women are here (intelligence is sexy, you know?).

Of course -- I meant the most beautiful Jewish woman aside from zulubaby.

Interesting factoids from a celebrity biography site:

Profile: Natalie Portman
Birth Name: Natalie Hershlag
Born: June 9, 1981, Jerusalem, Israel
Height: 5' 3"
Fact: Natalie speaks fluent Hebrew
Quote: "I'm going to college. I don't care if it ruined my career. I'd rather be smart than a movie star."

#270 Frank IBC

{ahem}
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Froll
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:P

Jimmy Carter was the last time I voted Democratic in any race. Things to remember about Carter:

The Hostage Crisis
Giving Back the Panama Canal
21% interest rates
The betrayel of the Shah of Iran leading to the formation of the "ISLAMIC STATE." This is the worst thing that could have happened to Iran. Now these religious fanatics are spreading terrorism without impunity. Thanks Jimmy.

The Recession during his Presidency.
Credit Card companies being allowed to raise their rates above 12%.

This list is almost endless.

;)

#123 Atlas Wannabe

One word: Dementia

And since he thinks the Revolutionary War was the "bloodiest in American History, here's another one:

Antietam

#275 zombie:

B-B-But I'm not Jewish. Can I be bootiful too?

#277 Sevoguy

Ditto on the vote.

We should add the 'Conversion of many Democrats" to his list of accomplisments.

Al