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Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 5:00:37 pm PDT

Now that I’ve cheesed off all of our British readers with my post about the Independent poll (sheesh! who knew Brits were so touchy?), let me draw your attention to this absolutely brilliant analysis of what’s at stake in the US election by eminent British historian Paul Johnson, who writes, “Quite simply, Kerry must be stopped; and Bush must win:” Campaign 2004: High Stakes. (Hat tip: Maxine.)

The great issue in the 2004 election—it seems to me as an Englishman—is, How seriously does the United States take its role as a world leader, and how far will it make sacrifices, and risk unpopularity, to discharge this duty with success and honor? In short, this is an election of the greatest significance, for Americans and all the rest of us. It will redefine what kind of a country the United States is, and how far the rest of the world can rely upon her to preserve the general safety and protect our civilization.

When George W. Bush was first elected, he stirred none of these feelings, at home or abroad. He seems to have sought the presidency more for dynastic than for any other reasons. September 11 changed all that dramatically. It gave his presidency a purpose and a theme, and imposed on him a mission. Now, we can all criticize the way he has pursued that mission. He has certainly made mistakes in detail, notably in underestimating the problems that have inevitably followed the overthrow of the Saddam Hussein regime in Iraq, and overestimating the ability of U.S. forces to tackle them. On the other hand, he has been absolutely right in estimating the seriousness of the threat international terrorism poses to the entire world and on the need for the United States to meet this threat with all the means at its disposal and for as long as may be necessary. Equally, he has placed these considerations right at the center of his policies and continued to do so with total consistency, adamantine determination, and remarkable courage, despite sneers and jeers, ridicule and venomous opposition, and much unpopularity.

There is something grimly admirable about his stoicism in the face of reverses, which reminds me of other moments in history: the dark winter Washington faced in 1777-78, a time to “try men’s souls,” as Thomas Paine put it, and the long succession of military failures Lincoln had to bear and explain before he found a commander who could take the cause to victory. There is nothing glamorous about the Bush presidency and nothing exhilarating. It is all hard pounding, as Wellington said of Waterloo, adding: “Let us see who can pound the hardest.” Mastering terrorism fired by a religious fanaticism straight from the Dark Ages requires hard pounding of the dullest, most repetitious kind, in which spectacular victories are not to be looked for, and all we can expect are “blood, toil, tears, and sweat.” However, something persuades me that Bush— with his grimness and doggedness, his lack of sparkle but his enviable concentration on the central issue—is the president America needs at this difficult time.

He has, it seems to me, the moral right to ask American voters to give him the mandate to finish the job he has started.

Read it all. Johnson also identifies the problems of John Kerry with unerring accuracy:

Of Kerry’s backers, maybe the most prominent is George Soros, a man who made his billions through the kind of unscrupulous manipulations that (in Marxist folklore) characterize “finance capitalism.” This is the man who did everything in his power to wreck the currency of Britain, America’s principal ally, during the EU exchange-rate crisis—not out of conviction but simply to make vast sums of money. He has also used his immense resources to interfere in the domestic affairs of half a dozen other countries, some of them small enough for serious meddling to be hard to resist. One has to ask: Why is a man like Soros so eager to see Kerry in the White House? The question is especially pertinent since he is not alone among the superrich wishing to see Bush beaten. There are several other huge fortunes backing Kerry.

And there is this devastating point, about John Kerry’s foreign supporters:

All the elements of anarchy and unrest in the Middle East and Muslim Asia and Africa are clamoring and praying for a Kerry victory. The mullahs and the imams, the gunmen and their arms suppliers and paymasters, all those who stand to profit—politically, financially, and emotionally—from the total breakdown of order, the eclipse of democracy, and the defeat of the rule of law, want to see Bush replaced. His defeat on November 2 will be greeted, in Arab capitals, by shouts of triumph from fundamentalist mobs of exactly the kind that greeted the news that the Twin Towers had collapsed and their occupants been exterminated.

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1 floranista  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:03:24pm

Nice to hear the other side...

2 Thom  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:03:56pm

Kerry must be defeated - resoundingly - but:

This is the man [Soros] who did everything in his power to wreck the currency of Britain, America’s principal ally, during the EU exchange-rate crisis—not out of conviction but simply to make vast sums of money.

Given the chance to make vast sums of money legally, hell, I'd take it.

3 DCMC  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:07:19pm

Paul Johnson is incredible. I recommend all his books.

DCMC

4 Holographic Patriot  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:09:53pm

Patriots of the world, UNITE!

5 Teacake!  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:09:54pm
One has to ask: Why is a man like Soros so eager to see Kerry in the White House?

This is exactly what I've been wondering. Would love some details about what his agenda is and who he best serves.

6 Vortec  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:10:24pm

Money Quote:

Behind this second line of adversaries there is a far more sinister third. All the elements of anarchy and unrest in the Middle East and Muslim Asia and Africa are clamoring and praying for a Kerry victory. The mullahs and the imams, the gunmen and their arms suppliers and paymasters, all those who stand to profit—politically, financially, and emotionally—from the total breakdown of order, the eclipse of democracy, and the defeat of the rule of law, want to see Bush replaced. His defeat on November 2 will be greeted, in Arab capitals, by shouts of triumph from fundamentalist mobs of exactly the kind that greeted the news that the Twin Towers had collapsed and their occupants been exterminated.


We must not let that happen. One ugly day of 'ulluulululululululululululululluuus' and candy being passed out in Gaza and the West Bank was enough.

7 Glen Wishard  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:10:28pm

Paul Johnson is the author of these must-read books:

Modern Times
The Birth of the Modern
Intellectuals
A History of Christianity
A History of the Jews

8 RayH  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:11:35pm

As for money to be made in a kerry presidency, I had thought (according to the msm) that the republicans were the party of the rich.
Of course they don't mention that those like soros who are consumed with greed prefer kerry just for the fact they can make more money.
And of course kerry's moneybags...uh erm... true love, his blushing bride will make gobs of moolah also.
I've always had a problem with those spoiled rich people who shilled for communism. They've got theirs and feel entitled to keep it in the face of what a real communist revolution would do to them. They are fools. They will have earned what they get should such a thing come to pass.

9 FreeKeys  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:14:05pm

Paul Johnson puts it in epochal, historical terms. That this election is crucial is fact, not hyperbole. Everyone must do all they can do. One thing ANYone can do for sure is copy and email THIS to everyone they know.

10 thanna  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:16:36pm

#6 Vortec
Right on! I, too, copied that paragraph for posting here - and found you'd zeroed in on it as well. Paul Johnson is a brilliant analyst.

11 bolivar  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:17:24pm

I have thought this all along and my feelings are only reinforced by what this man tells us. skerry must be stopped and his ilk must be shown for the traitorous vermin they actually are. To watch Stolen Honor and not be moved is totally incomprehensible to me however, some of these rabid morons will find a way.

You know, I have yet to have any skerry supporter, advocate or even j f'n k himself give me one - just one good, valid honest to God reason why I should vote for skerry over Bush. Haven't heard one yet and I don't think I will because there is NO reason to vote for skerry - not one, nada, zilch zip.

And that's the truth...pphhttt "Edith Ann" sez

12 hm  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:17:58pm

Charles, thanks for posting this. It's fantastic.

Kerry has burned so many bridges (i.e. Allawi "puppet" claim, coalition of the "coerced and bribed") and has so many skeletons in his closet (i.e. why doesnt he sign that F-180 form?!?) that the United States of America is risking huge embarrassment.
These are not the times for Carter's ineptitude, nor for two years of Clinton's learn on the job antics.

13 moonsbreath  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:18:30pm
"Many on the Continent support him, because they hate Bush, not because of any positive qualities Kerry possesses."

Very true comment and one which disturbs me most. I find this to be the most dangerous of all reasons to be voting for Kerry. You are free to write in a name, even your own, if you can't make up your mind between candidates. But please don't belittle one of our greatest freedoms by throwing away your vote because of hatred.

14 tankdemon  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:18:37pm

Wow, I never thought I would hear a Brit quote Churchill in comparison to Bush. I am impressed. W might not be the most brilliant speaker, or the most visionary thinker, but he is a man of purpose and principle. I would happily take that over a golden-tongued flip-flopper any day.

15 eeevil conservative  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:20:35pm

I posted this earlier-but
boy is it fitting HERE!

The pity is that there are those like Ind_with_NO_sense, that honestly think you can make friends and win them over. Don't get me wrong. I believe we could certainly get ourselves out of th bullseye with the, but only if we let them finish Hitler's agenda. AND I FOR ONE WILL NEVER AGREE TO THAT! But even then, even if they accomplished that- all you have taught them is that we are scared- we will run. just put us back in your bulls-eye and we buckle again! Making nice with them would be worse than THE GLOBAL TEST!
Kerry was the posterboy for their first lesson on how to defeat America- Viet Nam
Jimmy Carter was a festival of humiliating America for them
Billy "spitting in the oval office" Clinton gave them lesson number 3 in Mogadeshu
Of course they want another Dem. Especially when it's the first one that gave them the lesson, and he didn't mess up protecting America- He lead the charge to get America to SURRENDER!!!
In short- Anyone with half a brain on history- and it goes to Bush.
Ya get those jello brains- goes to Kerry.
We have to make a simple simple chart that shows just how Kerry is the guy who made America SURRENDER- and that's why our enemies want him.

16 HUSKER  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:21:12pm

# 14

I just told a pal of mine the other day:

I would rather have someone stutter and search for words while they're telling me that they love me, than have someone eloquently and masterfully tell me that they hate me.

17 dustyroadguy  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:22:06pm

OT Maybe

Charles,

Why is Ok for MSNBC to be airing a bio on Jskerry RIGHT NOW on headliners and ledgends which includes a very 'biased'(think-leftwing) look at his anti-war activities but not the POW"s through Stolen Honor?

18 David2  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:22:27pm

Intellectuals by this author is a must read. Johnson is one of the greatest writers of our time. If you need to find a gift for someone this Christmas choose one of his books.

19 jlfintx  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:22:55pm

I hope people will take note of this very well-known historian. But, considering the following, it is not likely.

Why has Kerry not been made to release his wife's tax returns? I remember seeing and downloading online: Clinton's, Bush's and all the most recent presidents with all the detail.

Why has Kerry received a pass on his military records? All the presidents before him with any military involvement have released all their records.

Even if those that support Kerry for the only reason being their hatred for Bush, do they not care about these things? How can they back someone that is so evasive in what the public expects him (and his spouse) to provide?

There is just a blind rage and ignorance on the left that defies explanation or rationale.

20 Free Speech Is Only For über-Libs  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:25:11pm

Amen.

21 eeevil conservative  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:26:21pm

Paul Johson is very gifted in thought, analogy, and writing. most all- he is astoundingly able to cut through the political muck we have found oursleves drowning in. We are so busy debating all the little things without looking at the true historical ramifications. He has left me amazed, humbled, and very thankful that he wrote this.

Thanks Charles!

22 doppelganglander  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:27:03pm

#5 Teacake: I'm with you. Soros is a very shadowy figure and I can't believe the Bush campaign has not done more to unmask him.

Johnson's "A History of the American People" is also terrific. And I want Santa to bring me a copy of "Art," but I'm afraid the reindeer will get hernias.

23 It's Miss Donna V. to you  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:28:01pm

I suspect that if Kerry wins, a great many people who voted him (not America-hating LLL's but Michigan union members, little old ladies who the Dems have scared into thinking Bush is "taking away their social security," Jews who automatically vote D because their parents did, etc) will feel more than a twinge of regret when they turn on the TV and see crowds in Cairo and the West Bank celebrating like they did on 9/11.

Of course, then it will be a little bit too late for regrets.

24 tankdemon  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:28:47pm

In regards to the importance of this election- yes the outcome is vital to our country and probably the world, I will not deny that. However, I resfuse to believe that this is the most important election of my lifetime. I will always give that homage to the election of 2000. Just because we did not fully realize what the stakes were at the time, doesn't mean that we can kid ourselves that the outcome didn't matter.

Can you imagine whqat a world with an Algore presidency would look like now? Does anyone think that we would have gotten out of the resession without the Bush tax cuts? Does anyone think that Algore would have given us the same steady leadership that kept the economy as steady as it stayed after 9/11? Does anybody realize what the economic effects of 9/11 would have been if we had the albatross of Kyoto around our necks? If Algore had won in 2000, we would probably be pining for the good old days of Jimmy Carter.

Perhaps people should consider that when they hear about how "terrible" the county is right now, and how a Kerry administration would follow in the footsteps of Al.

25 mpax  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:29:51pm

"His defeat on November 2 will be greeted, in Arab capitals, by shouts of triumph from fundamentalist mobs of exactly the kind that greeted the news that the Twin Towers had collapsed and their occupants been exterminated."
For some time this has been my short answer when people ask how I could ever vote for Bush. It's nice to hear it said by someone of Johnson's stature. too bad more voters won't hear it.

26 Another Thought  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:30:03pm

Electing Kerry would be equal to committing national suicide, he is that bad...he is that far left in his thinking.

27 justamomof4  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:32:11pm

Way OT . . .but want to get other's opinion -
This online article is supposedly humorous. I say it wreaks of dhimmitude/taqiyya . . .I'm wretching from the stench of this . . .


-Muslim humor???

"The fear among the infidels"

People suffer from all sorts of fears. In America, for example, the most common are fear of heights, fear of public speaking and fear of John Ashcroft. (He´s the attorney general, the man who grants some people civil rights and others civil frights.)

Not far behind on the list of fears is one that has mushroomed since 9/11: the fear of MUSLIMS.

Coming soon to a theater near you: M. Night Shyamalan´s "The Muslim Village." Starring Shahrukh Khan, Salman Khan, Aamir Khan and many other Khans. This movie is rated ´PG´ (Panic Guaranteed).

According to a poll by the Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), one in four Americans believes that "Muslims teach their children to hate" and "Muslims value life less than other people." They probably also believe that "Muslims learn to fly at an early age" and "Muslims know the directions to all the tall buildings."

Tourist: "Excuse me, can you tell me how to get to the Sears Tower?"

Gas station clerk: "Sure can. Just make a right at the next street, then take the next left, and keep going until you see the blind Muslim man on the corner. He´ll know where it is."

Respondents to the CAIR poll were asked what they think when they hear "Muslim," and 32 percent made negative comments.

Young woman: "I don´t like ´Muslim,´ because it makes me think of violence and terrorism and the cute Pakistani guy in school who broke up with me."

Fat woman: "I don´t like ´Muslim,´ because it has the word ´slim´ in it. The only Muslim I seem to like is that guy named Arafat."

Only 2 percent of respondents had positive reactions to ´Muslim.´

New York man: "I once sat next to a Muslim man on the plane. He was very friendly, very courteous, never once threatened to take me hostage. I wonder if he was retired."

California man: "I love Muslims. They´re wonderful people, beautiful people. And I´m gonna keep saying that until they lower the price of oil."

Not surprisingly, the respondents with the most negative attitudes toward Muslims tended to be less-educated, conservative white males -- the ones who think that Islam is a country between Iraq and Iran.

Respondents with Muslim friends and with greater knowledge of Islam were more likely to have positive attitudes, more likely to realize that the vast majority of Muslims aren´t out to harm Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, and the rest of us infidels. (As they say in Cuba, you´re either for Fidel or an infidel.)

Perhaps more people should emulate Rob Davis, the police chief in San Jose, California, who, despite being Mormon, makes it a habit to observe Ramadan with Muslims in his community. "It helps you focus on what is important in life: your family, the roof over your head, the community you live in, the country that afforded us all of this," he told the San Jose Mercury News. "At the end of the day, we´re all the same."

All the same? If only he could get those less-educated, conservative white males to understand that.

Conservative male: "Chief, aren´t you afraid to visit the homes of people with names like Ahmed and Abdul?"

Chief: "No, Bubba. Perhaps you should ask them if they´re afraid to open their doors to someone named Rob."

Conservative male: "Well, gosh darn Chief, I´m sure they´re armed. They do have guns, don´t they?"

Chief: "Why do you ask, Bubba? Do you want to sell them some of yours?"

28 dustyroadguy  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:35:12pm

This is what I believe was the underlying message in George W Bush's statement before a joint-session of congress after 9/11...

All the elements of anarchy and unrest in the Middle East and Muslim Asia and Africa are clamoring and praying for a Kerry victory. The mullahs and the imams, the gunmen and their arms suppliers and paymasters, all those who stand to profit—politically, financially, and emotionally—from the total breakdown of order, the eclipse of democracy, and the defeat of the rule of law, want to see Bush replaced.

the folks named in this paragraph are people who we had either ignored or turned a blind eye to prior to 9/11, and these same folks are the people that france and germany and russia have been selling to under the table in 'wink and nod' deals for years.

IT IS WHY SO MUCH OF THE ELITE IN THE WORLD ARE AGAINIST BUSH...It is costing them money and power!

29 mpax  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:36:16pm

For what it's worth:

DEBKAfile’s counter-terror sources report Indian Air Force sighted bin Laden a few days ago on Tibet-Laddakh region close to the North-Eastern corner of Pakistan bordering India and China. Indian forces went on red alert
30 manofaiki  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:36:52pm

Paul Johnson is to be commended for his concise thoughts on the difficulties facing the next Administration in the White House.

Like him, I believe he sees the qualities of Bush that fit the criteria of the sort of leader America will need for the next four years.

I especially loved the reference to Valley Forge and the Civil War.

I own the PBS DVD of the Civil War Documentary by Ken Burns, and recently went back over it, so I am very familiar of the more than two years of that war that Mr. Johnson alludes to, in which Lincoln faced great unpopularity at home after a long succession of Confederate victories at Bull Run, Fredericksburg, etc.

The man in charge of the Union army during this time? George McClellan.

How best to sum up George McClellan?

He would not lead the main Union army into battle unless he was SURE it would win. As defeat after defeat mounted as the other Union Armies were routed from the field, McClellan sat with his troops in Washington.

How bad did McClellan's reluctance to fight become? It led to one of Lincoln's most famous quotes, about wanting to 'borrow the army' since McClellan wasn't using it.

Finally, McClellan was sacked, and humiliated he began attacking Lincoln in the papers and launched his own political campaign, intending to replace Lincoln as President in the next election.

Meanwhile the Union main Union Army finally took the field...and was routed. In quick succession, two (or posssibly 3) other generals were quickly replaced after defeats.

Finally, the command of the Union army fell to a man who was known and disdained in Washington as a hard drinker and who had been working in his father-in-law's shop in Illinois when the war broke out.

Ulysses S. Grant.

Grant had some quick victories and then a huge defeat. But after that big defeat, he did something that no other Union General had done: he advanced instead of retreating.

When people in Washington demanded that Grant be replaced, Lincoln said: I cannot replace this man. He fights.

Meanwhile, McClellan ran a campaign against Lincoln that savaged the President, calling him an imbecile, the war unecessary and wasteful. He called for a truce with the Confederates, believing the war to be unwinnable.

Had McClellan won the election, America would have ended up with a country half slave and half free.

But he lost.

Anybody see any similiarities between Lincoln-McClellan and Bush-Kerry?

Like McClellan, Kerry thinks the War on Terror is unnecessary, that it's unwinnable as a real military war and therefore needs to be negotiated to a truce, primarily by abandoning Israel and reducing our influence in the MIddle East.

Like McClellan, Kerry has attacked a sitting President in war time as incompetent, having mismanaged the war, isolated America, caused unwarrented death and destruction, and pursuing idealogy dangerous to America's future.

But the American voters did not buy McClellan's program. They knew the war wasn't going well, but they didn't think abandoning it was the answer.

I don't think Kerry gets most Americans to buy his program either.

manofaiki

31 doppelganglander  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:38:07pm

#27 justamomof4: Where did that come from, a college newspaper?

32 mpax  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:38:24pm

I also don't want to hear shouts of triumph from Rather, Jennings, Brokaw, Springsteen, Moore, Baldwin, Barbra...you get the picture.

33 KathyP  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:38:49pm

Joh Kerry, the Manchurian Candidate. How does that sound? And what does that make Teresa? shudders..

34 Teacake!  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:39:19pm
I can't believe the Bush campaign has not done more to unmask him.

I'm surprised the Bush campaign hasn't done more to reveal how dangerous the Un is to our soverignity.

35 DCMC  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:39:55pm

On the subject of George Soros, here is a link to Rachel Ehrenfeld and Shawn Macomber's recent, and very unflattering, profile of Soros: (http://www.moralclarity.com/blog/_archives/2004/10 /30/171552.html)


My favorite line: “I have not even a shadow of remorse for making a profit out of the devaluation of the pound.” Pushed further, Soros gave an example. “Let’s suppose speculation went on to push the franc,” he said. “That would be wrong and bad. But it wouldn’t stop me."

DCMC

36 JWM  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:41:17pm

#27 justamomof4:

Yeah, that was a real hoot (not). What a great example of politically correct thinking. I'm sure that was a hit in faculty lounges all across the country.
JWM

37 Teacake!  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:42:33pm

How is it that Mike Moore can say there is no terrorist threat and KErry says he will do all he can to fight terrorism? Sort of a disconnect going on.

38 tankdemon  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:44:09pm

30- manofranki

My favorite quote of Lincoln's about Grant was after Lincoln was told that Grant was a heavy drinker.

"Find out what he drinks and send a barrell to my other generals." Though Grant is a wonderful example of continuing with the task at hand despite setbacks because it must be done.

39 the lizard  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:45:10pm

#11

Oh, it's possible for people to discredit Stolen Honor. A Satellite TV Station called Link TV (On DirecTV) Had a special on called "Controversial Kerry Documentaries". They played select bits of Stolen Honor and had one of their "commentors" shred it.

One of the guy's comments about the POWs was..."They insist atrocities never happened as Kerry testified..but how would they know? Most of them were pilots who were shot down and in jail and never saw the atrocities for themselves." What a load of S*!

After that baloney, they played a pro-Kerry documentary and used the documentary to discredit the Swifties for Truth.

40 bull  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:45:30pm

paul johnson is fantastic. i have nearly every book he has written, and here, as usual, he is spot on.

41 jlfintx  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:48:27pm

#30 Mano

Thanks for that analysis. I often wonder if the ups and downs of Lincoln and the terrible mental struggles are what Bush goes through as well. After all, both are men of faith and both have a job nearly all people would shrink away from. How desperate Bush needs our thoughts and prayers and how terrible the toil must be on him and his family.

However, some things only he can carry and bear alone. God help him and God help us to choose the right man on Tuesday.

42 WarBicycle  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:49:17pm

Elect Kerry as President and you can expect the same type of Left Wing bullshit Canadians have had to deal with since Pierre Elliott Trudeau was first elected in 1968. It will probably take another ten to fifteen years to undo the damage he has done to Canada.

43 perfectsense  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:51:07pm

#27 quotes CAIR (ha ha)

According to a poll by the Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR)

Quoting CAIR is as stupid as quoting Hitler on the condition of the Jews in 1943. "99% of Jews love our relocation facilities complete with modern shower rooms."

44 mpax  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:53:46pm

Paul Johnson fans (I count myself one, and have most of his works on my bookshelf) will appreciate this essay from National Review.
Johnson on Islam

45 eeevil conservative  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:53:52pm

Reading all these posts about Kerry winning is going to DRIVE ME TO DRINK!!!


ooops, too late!

CHEERS!

46 PostalWorker  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:55:18pm

Good night all. I'll be back after Sunday. It will take all day to recover from this gig we are doing. Woo hoo lets BREAK A LEG!

Take care all.

47 Teacake!  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:55:55pm

DCMC  - much thanks for the link.

48 mongoose  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:56:13pm

P Johnson's article sums it up perfectly, TY, Charles!

49 Patrizio  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:58:48pm

YES!!

I can't overstate enough how I am addicted to Paul Johnson's work. It's one of the great missing thins on the Internet: Paul Johnson material

50 jrdroll  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 3:59:20pm

#7 glenn

Paul Johnson is the author of these must-read books:

History of Islamic Bloodletting NOT

51 Melissa  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:01:52pm

My brother made the comment today that he could almost live with a Dem victory as he would love to see Kerry deal with:

-- a military that will most certainly never meet recruitment levels seen with Bush and will likely have many active duty not re-up.

-- France and Germany slamming the door in our face (again), despite his huge 'bring more allies on board' pitch.

-- the anti-Semites at the UN passing resolution after resolution against Israel.

I replie, 'But we already had that. Don't you remember the Carter administration?' I'm not willing to go back to the days of 17% interest just because it might be edifying to the Democrats.

52 manofaiki  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:02:19pm

#38 tankdemon

Yes, that's a great quote as well! The parallels between that election and this are stunning.


#30 jlfintx

Bush should could use our prayers as well as our votes. It enrages me to no end to see the far left attack him as they have in this time of war. Bush didn't even start seriously campaigning until after the Republican Convention. Because he has a war to fight. Kerry's been non-stop negative for two years and I look forward to seeing him just go away on Nov. 3.

manofaiki

53 Frank_Mtl  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:03:06pm

Mr. Johnson's analysis is a lucid, intelligent, crystal-clear synthesis, before Americans make their crucial decision, for the U.S. and for the whole World, on Tuesday. Please, re-elect President Bush.

54 Blackhorse  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:03:12pm

People with big money believe that money buys anything and everything.

John Kerry has millions, John Edwards has millions, Mike Moore has millions, George Soros has billions.

I have never seen so much money put out for John Kerry by some of the wealthiest people to win the Presidential Election.

If George Bush wins (I hope), it will prove there are just some things that money can't buy.

Sorry Kerry, Edwards, Moore, and Soros, but the United States is not for sale.

55 eeevil conservative  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:03:40pm

UBL brought up HALIBURTON???

wow! He must surf at DU!

56 John Tiller  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:10:47pm

If you want to find out what a Kerry victory would look remember how it was when they held the office. The only significant terrorist event to prompt an action was the embassy bombings which some said we did it in the Sudan so some redneck wouldn't do it at the grocery store. So we protected them.
Clinton pardoned all types of crinimals on his last day. Many were terrorists. It look like Hilliary struttin' some PR credentials for her run for the Senate.
NY City had sanctuary laws that said churches should be off limits to authorities. These laws were passed after the World Trade Center was bombed by Al Qaeda.
The country's FBI had directives that their security division or individuals of could not talk to Law enforcement or immigration divisions or any member thereof.

We were wimps, Joey Boy. The kind where you get picked on. The kind where you stand out in a crowd. We were the kind that that will get you dead.

57 justamomof4  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:11:59pm

31 - doppelganglander

Where did that come from, a college newspaper?

I have a google alert set for articles about Ramadan in Public schools. I receive a list of related links once a day.

The link to the source is in the piece but here it is again . . .

[Link: www.indolink.com...]

It is not clear whether the Indolink site is a college generated humor site. Maybe someone out there is better able to address that question.

58 adie  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:12:47pm

#52 manofaiki, for me, it will not be enough for Senator Kerry to just go away. He has large outstanding debts to pay, no matter what happens in this election. I patiently await his comeuppance and hope to live to witness it.

59 Frank IBC  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:13:42pm

#33 kathyp -

"John, why don't you pass the time by playing a game of Solitaire?"

60 DCMC  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:14:03pm

Also, for more on Soros (I think), check out Rachel Ehrenfeld's website:

American Center for Democracy

DCMC

61 Frank IBC  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:14:28pm

#33 Kathyp -

Actually Kerry's voice sounds an awful lot like Johnny Iselin's.

62 Rayra[deleted]  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:16:24pm
63 Martel-Sobieski  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:18:54pm

A vote for Kerry is a vote for Jane Fonda.

Pass it on.

64 Belize042  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:19:51pm

This, from Johnson's article, was priceless:

Anti-Americanism, like anti-Semitism, is not, of course, a rational reflex. It is, rather, a mental disease...
65 Hassen bin Sober  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:22:46pm

Our free people will get the government we deserve - if it turns out that there are fewer decent, moral folk than indecent, idiotic, or criminally adept election operators, then we shall all have a series of difficult choices in our future - the FreeState project, aimed at a migration of decent folk to NH, and thence to wise local political decisions, is going to get a lot of my attention if this thing turns out wrong. It's a very livable place, although it's surrounded by moon-batteries.

66 jrdroll  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:27:25pm

George Soros
Capitalist Pig

67 jrdroll  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:33:26pm

Lenin Soros: "The capitalists will sell you me the rope you are I am going to use to hang them."

[Link: www.gmu.edu...]

68 barzilla  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:33:48pm

#23

I'm a "Michigan Union Member", whatever that's
supposed to imply (UAW 1264). I'm also a Catholic,
Disabled Vet, (Viet-Nam and Korea), and I've been
married over thirty years with six kids and ALL OF
US are voting for President Bush, including spouses
of kids. Michigan is the home of the "Reagan Democrats". We'd appreciate it if you'd not make
such generalities. You'll find as many patriots here
as you will anywhere. We vote issues, not parties.
I don't believe I've EVER voted a straight ticket in
the past eleven national elections.

Democrats aren't evil or stupid. They've just allowed
their national party leadership to be taken over by
left-wing extremists. That is a shame, I admit. Loyal
opposition plays much better than naked all-out
internecine warfare.

In my considered opinion, John Kerry is no more than
a pretending clown without a clue, much less a "plan".

FEARLESS PREDICTION: President Bush wins in a
walkover. I do believe that the preponderance of the
people of the USA (The "Silent Majority", to coin a cliche) are decent, law-abiding, God-loving members
of society and that they will not stand for Kerry and
his ilk.

I have spoken with hundreds of people and can't find
two out of ten that support Kerry and virtually none
outside of the Social Security set (who still seem to
think that a Democratic vote is somehow a vote for
FDR, their hero) that think Kerry has a chance.

Keep the faith. VOTE.

69 Rayra[deleted]  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:33:49pm
70 adie  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:34:33pm

Charles, I read it all. Paul Johnson's analysis is excellent. It's encouraging to have more evidence of support for Bush from Europeans. While it would not change my high esteem for Bush or my vote, it's nice to see someone like Johnson also sees past the media lies to recognize Bush's strong qualities and the gratitude we all owe our President.

71 Eagle  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:40:40pm

OT:

Just saw Team America

Gut busting funny, definitely a must see for all lizards.

72 Chuck Pelto  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:42:41pm

TO: Charles Johnson
RE: REALLY??!?!?

"Now that I’ve cheesed off all of our British readers with my post about the Independent poll (sheesh! who knew Brits were so touchy?" -- Charles Johnson

They're THAT 'touchy'? How very odd...

...considering all the guff I've experienced from them about how funny and satirical Charlie Brooker's call for the assassination of President Bush was and how we simple-minded folk on this side of the great pond should know about their dry wit.

One would think that people with such a dry sense of humor would not be so sensitive themselves.

Regards,

Chuck(le)

73 It's Miss Donna V. to you  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:43:25pm

Hassen bin Sober: Is NH really a "very livable place, although it's surrounded by moon-batteries." these days? Looks like it's trending Democratic these days. A Free Stater on another website bemoaned the Mass. and NY people who are moving into NH attracted by the lower cost of living and no state income tax. Now that they've settled in, they want to change NH to what they've left behind. Now if that isn't the very defination of moonbattery, I don't know what is,...,

manofranki: Quite right about the similiarities with the Lincoln - McClelland election. (And there are photos of McClelland, quite a vain dandy, posing like Napoleon despite his lack of any Napolean-like victories. He was "metrosexual" for his time.) Michael Moore, the MSM, etc.. are our Copperheads.

74 Wicksy  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:46:21pm
Now that I’ve cheesed off all of our British readers with my post about the Independent poll (sheesh! who knew Brits were so touchy?)

LOL. Ok, all is forgiven. And I seem to have found my sense of humour! ;)

75 floranista  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:46:48pm

This has been a hard day for our troops.

I want to thank our great Australian and British allies, especially the Black Watch who have moved into Baghdad in support of our Fallujah assault.

They reminded me of the time I saw the massed bands of the Black Watch with pipes, drums and dancers in 1989 for their 250th anniversary tour. They were so inspirational and did a salute to our marines for a finale. I'll never forget when all marines in attendance stood up for the anthem - it gave me goosebumps. We are so lucky to have the Black Watch as allies. THANK YOU!

76 Jimmy The Clam  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:47:42pm

Cherie Blair can't wait for a Kerry Victory. She makes Teresa Heinz Kerry seem well reasoned.

CHERIE Blair has criticised the policies of the US President George W Bush, attacking his stance on terrorist prisoners and gay rights.

The Prime Minister’s wife was condemned by supporters of the US President, after a speech to Harvard law students which contained a stinging rebuke to Bush, while on a lecture tour of the United States.

She attacked the manner in which the White House has dealt with the human rights of UK citizens detained at the US-run Camp X-Ray prison at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba.

Blair said the decision by the US Supreme Court, fiercely opposed by Bush’s government, to give legal protection to two of the Britons detained at the camp was "profoundly important" and a "significant victory for human rights and the international rule of law".

She took a sideswipe at Bush’s record on gay rights, condemning the arrest of a homosexual couple in the President’s home state of Texas, for defying a ban on gay sex. The US Supreme Court’s decision to throw out the law, which had been backed by Bush, was a "model of judicial reasoning". Blair also called the US legal code an "outdated grandfather clock".

77 Hassen bin Sober  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:51:03pm

Donna V. - must admit I haven't spent any time in NH for 3 years - lived there in the 80s - perhaps, though, considering that there isn't a red pixel on an EC projection map to the north and east of Hagerstown MD, the fact that NH may indeed support our President is a healthy sign. I continue to pray...

78 Zack  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:57:27pm

Kerry is presumed to be too soft on terror despite his "whatever it takes" rhetoric. But how tough really is Bush? His patty cake rules of engagement are getting our guys killed. The grunts can't get suppressing mortar fire directed into cemetaries or mosques due to battlefield PC.

Bush may actually believe his "religion of peace" bs, which could get us all killed.

Operation Open Spigot (pre-election max output from Iraq + Saudi) failed to lower prices at the pump, which means we are at least approaching peak oil.

Saudi oil fields will have to be seized to save our economy from the death blow of $7/gallon gas.

Due to its massive accelerating oil consumption, China might do something rash and require a thorough smacking down hard.

The Bushies are tight with both the Chinese and Saudis.

UBL may be the least of our troubles.

79 MichelefromLA  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 4:58:33pm

OT:

I'm sitting here right now with a much needed glass of wine.

I walked into my livingroom to see MSNBC (it's on right now) Chris Mathews is talking with Sam Donaldson, Cambell Brown...some others.

They're trying to guess why Bush appeals to anybody in the working class...Sam Donaldson supposed that they so busy working they don't get to read much news and find out more - so they just react to what they hear (not verbatim).

Cambell Brown began to say that many of the 2000 election voters thought Bush was a compassionate conservative and many are surprised by how far he's moved to the right.

Huh? I was a Democrat in 2000. I'd love this panel to explain why I'm voting for Bush. I'm mean...if he's moved so far to the right and I came from the left??? Explain that to me Campbell!!! Or maybe Sam Donaldson will explain that I just haven't had the time to educate myself.

ARRRrrrhhh!!! These people are clueless.

80 pbird  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:01:15pm

I love the article, but quibble at a thing or two. I think Bush sparkles. Maybe not verbally all the time. But sometimes. His expression and spirit is very sparkly.

81 sgt tom  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:01:40pm
Now that I’ve cheesed off

yes, but it might be wensleydale!

as if i care what they think of how my country is governed? being a fine, ol' southern gentleman (one of the last of my breed), i would have to invite them to kiss parts of me that have remained in the dark for the most part.

and if that's not satisfactory, then by all means, nathan bedford forrest should ride amongst their midst!

82 floranista  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:02:02pm

OT

They did it again. A decapitated body found wrapped in an American flag in Baghdad has been identified as the Japanese hostage.

Fallujah is ashes very soon...

83 It's Miss Donna V. to you  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:03:37pm

barzilla: I was not trying to insult you. I was trying to think of typically Dem voting blocs. The whole point of my post was that there are Democrats who are not LLL's or America-haters who will vote for Kerry because they don't like Bush's positions on say, social security, or stem cell research, or health care. Since those people are not radicals, they will not feel happy if their vote in the polls leads to celebrations in Cairo and Ramallah. Bill Maher might take some sort of weird pride in agreeing with OBL; I don't think many factory workers in Michigan will.

Whatever the rank and file union worker might think, you can't deny that the union leaders are certainly expecting their members to vote Kerry. My sister, who plans on voting for Bush, works in the Occ Health Dept. of a unionized factory. She said it would be madness to broadcast her political preferences at work - there are Kedwards signs hanging all over the place. She told me she is 100% sure that a car with a Bush sticker in the factory parking lot would not only get keyed, but smashed up pretty badly.

84 Nancy  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:10:50pm

#74 Wicksy And I seem to have found my sense of humour! ;)

Good, because at the end of the other thread I said you have to love a culture that has spotted dick on the menu!

85 Luigi  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:11:19pm

79 MichelefromLA

ARRRrrrhhh!!! These people are clueless.


Yes. They are clueless. They are hothouse flowers that can only bloom in the rarified air of the television studio. Its not that they're smarter than us. Its just that they go on television for a living, so it looks like they are smart. They do not dare fall out of lockstep with the liberal left. It would be too dangerous to their careers.

Some of the people on Fox are shockingly stupid. Just an hour or two ago a Fox news lady was hosting a discussion on the new Bin Laden tape. We see Bin Laden in a clean shirt, a brown cloth as a backdrop and a wood board that seems like the top of a podium. That's the whole image. The Fox lady said "He appears to be in a metropolitan setting in a television studio." Pass the bottle.

86 It's Miss Donna V. to you  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:12:40pm

Cherie Blair can't wait for Kerry to be elected because than the US will have a First Lady as loopy as she is. She has about as much business criticizing our legal code as Laura Bush does making comments about the "outdated" monarchy.

87 satan sidekick  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:16:23pm

The only thing separating Saddam from his "more dangerous" weapons was a freakin' seal? And this is a claim of his being contained??? WOW!

This is more troubling to me than anything else the UN has done. A freakin' seal away from who knows what - and a Mohammed (EL Baradei) in charge of it all.

88 dak  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:18:36pm

Good article. I like guys who can synthesize at that level. Problem is that the joy expressed by many in "the world" at an eventual Kerry victory will be interpreted by liberals as a reconciliation opportunity (can you spell bend over?). Just like UBL's tape: You don't attack us, and we won't attack you. Liberals will grasp at that as a sign that negotiations are possible and invited. Then, when UBL's demands are clearly outrageous and are refused, the U.S. will be accused of negotiating in bad faith... How many times have we seen this before...

By the way, I think there are as many moonbats and "sensitive" people in the U.S. as in Britain. Just look at U.S. polls and see how many support Kerry. So don't be surprised a few limeys are on the left. Remember the Brits have troops in Irak and have been with us all along. And yes, there are a bunch of mullahs in England preaching violence. Same in Canada and the U.S.

I was over in Englang last year, hosted by the RAF. I tell ya, this was one helluva nice trip. England is a very civilized country, even if it has a few warts here and there.

89 voletti  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:19:39pm

Kerry must be stopped??

When did he start in the first place?

90 andreaSF  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:20:16pm

My father-in-law still views "the left" as the post WWII Israel supporters and uplifters of the minority and poor. I've almost won him over to our side with several articles like this (I emailed this one to him, too), and he's finally realizing that as a Jew, the left isn't on his side anymore.

And- the last time I talked to him, he said he was changing his mind about who to vote for!

Thanks Little Green Footballs!
Changing minds one at a time.

91 Nancy  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:22:28pm

87 satan sidekick

Yes, and in 1995 the Inspectors warned the IAEA --in fact plead with them to remove those weapons and the IAEA insisted they would take no action and said they would moniter them.

A seal on the doors of bunkers which the inspectors have also said could be easily gotten into without breaking the seal.

92 grayp  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:23:34pm

#78 Zack

Saudi oil fields will have to be seized to save our economy from the death blow of $7/gallon gas.


Due to its massive accelerating oil consumption, China might do something rash and require a thorough smacking down hard.


do you even begin to see the inherent logical conflict in those two statements? No? Thought not.
You are an idiot.

Back on topic: I am embarrassed. I never even heard of Paul Johnson before this thread. More books to read. Sheesh.

93 Wicksy  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:25:17pm

#84 Nancy
I saw that :)

94 dak  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:27:18pm

Yes, a seal on a door would certainly deter someone like Saddam who thinks nothing of gassing civvies.

A nation on the verge of giving birth to nuclear technology, who can modify Soviet rockets to extend their range is certainly not capable of replicating those seals.

Here's a global test: Park your car in (insert bad neighborhood of your choice) and insert an protect it with an IAEA seal. Come back 2 months later...

95 satan sidekick  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:31:16pm

Donna V

I live in NH where our state motto is "Live Free or Die" and I am totally embarassed about the loons who have moved here over the past few years. They are destroying the state with their wanting everything they left behind.

The free staters want to move here in droves, but many towns don't want them, so are passing zoning laws to prohibit some of their ideas such as placing an industrial dumpster on a piece of land and calling it a residence so they can vote or run for office. Things like that.

I live in So. NH and the Bush signs and bumper stickers are 5 to 1 for Bush. As a neighbor of Fat Teddie (the Swimmer) and JFnK we simply despise them and all they stand for.

96 insane_kufr  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:33:09pm

Kudos to Mr. Johnson...now if only the American electorate will heed his words of wisdom.

97 PETN Sandwich  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:34:52pm

#30 manofaiki

Nice essay. Truth is, McClellan may have actually cared about the situation and really believed that 'diplomancy' was the better way, Kerry doesn't give a flying fuck either way, it's just a nuisance.

Sometimes, if ya listen, Kerry will TELL YOU WHAT HE REALLY THINKS.

98 jlfintx  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:36:47pm

I am not a fatalist and have hope for this country, but having said that if Kerry is elected this country may be in it's last days. It is not enough if there is a "silent majority" out there to wish for the right thing. We have been silent for too long and this country is on a dangerous precipous. Wednesday will tell if this country has a future worth fighting and dying for.

99 satan sidekick  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:48:46pm

#98 jlfintx


I feel the same way about this election. The silent majority has to speak out NOW!! Nov 2nd is possibly our LAST chance.

100 aviator  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:48:49pm

#79 MichelefromLA


I'd love this panel to explain why I'm voting for Bush. I'm mean...if he's moved so far to the right and I came from the left??? Explain that to me Campbell!!! Or maybe Sam Donaldson will explain that I just haven't had the time to educate myself.

Pretty much sums these folks up. The lefty types think that they are so much smarter than the rest of us. If you don't have their viewpoint you are a hayseed rube. Don't worry though, just do what they tell you and you will be taken care despite your inability to form a thought - they will do all that taxing thinking stuff for us. This mindset is why they feel justified in slanting the news - just helping us out.

101 lobo91  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:51:26pm

You know, considering how much Kerry has talked about the Army's various "stop loss" orders being some sort of "back-door draft," I wonder if he's given any thought to how he's going to replace the tens of thousands of senior officers and NCOs (such as myself) who will submit their retirement papers rather than serve under him?

I remember watching the helicopters lifting off from the roof of our embassy in Saigon back in 1975. I want NO PART of a similar operation in Baghdad, which is clearly what Kerry has planned.

102 KathyP  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:51:31pm

Frank IBC -

That clipped, 'proper' English. Scary. Every time I hear Kerry say 'GHENGHIS KAHN' he reminds me of that movie. I used to think Hillary Clinton was the antiChrist. Now I'm not so sure anymore. Kerry? No doubt if there is an antiChrist, it will be a democrat.

103 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:53:50pm

After reading Johnson's article I was reminded of an open letter written a few days ago by John Hospers - founding member of the Libertarian party and their first candidate for U.S president - an endorsement for President Bush:

The election of John Kerry would be, far more than is commonly realized, a catastrophe. Regardless of what he may say in current campaign speeches, his record is unmistakable: he belongs to the International Totalitarian Left in company with the Hillary and Bill Clintons, the Kofi Annans, the Ted Kennedys, and the Jesse Jacksons of the world.
[snip]
The Democratic Party today is a haven for anti-Semites, racists, radical environmentalists, plundering trial lawyers, government employee unions, and numerous other self-serving elites who despise the Constitution and loathe private property. It is opposed to free speech: witness the mania for political correctness and intimidation on college campuses, and Kerry's threat to sue television stations that carry the Swift Boat ads. If given the power to do so, Democrats will use any possible means to suppress opposing viewpoints, particularly on talk radio and in the university system. They will attempt to enact "hate speech" and "hate crime" laws and re-institute the Fairness Doctrine, initiate lawsuits, and create new regulations designed to suppress freedom of speech and intimidate their political adversaries. They will call it "defending human rights." This sort of activity may well make up the core of a Kerry administration Justice Department that will have no truck with the rule of law except as a weapon to use against opponents.

On November 2nd, I hope American's 'won't be fooled again today' by what the election of Kerry will signify - an unmitigated catastrophe.

An Open Letter To Libertarians

104 scoreboard44  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:53:55pm

I am new to LGF...I'll grant that. Only since the Rathergate scandal. My family has been here since the early 1700's. My last name is Dutch, my allegiance is to America.

I have read over the weeks those on this Blog who are my co-patriots. Each and most with a mind and an IQ superior to mine. My life and legacy was forged through the hard work of my ancestors who surveyed this country and whom lived to make it what it is.

My family was not the pillars of society but the backbone on which it was forged.

The name Van Meter, which is my last name, has been around for a great deal. We were not hollowed in name nor honored for heroism or sighted in History as that of the great ones.

But still I am an american. When I sense things that are wrong and this countryand are seemingly under attack by those that wish it to be less that it is. The hackles on the back of my neck swell up.

John Wayne, the cowboys, superman, Regan, all heros of mine. Truth, Justice and the American way have been my creed.

Foreignors, whom which to take away that which we have worked to achieve, are the enemy. We have long been a melting pot. the smartest and the best come here to make a living and to live the American dream. Even the muslims who are sick of their old world.

I look at those Like Soros and even the likes of people like John Kerry as people who would quash the american dream.

I cannot stand by and watch this. Bush knows this. he sees this. his duty is far greater than that of just being President.

My family's future, built on hard work and the building of this country cannot go down in histroy as an asterisk for George Soros.

Kerry must be defeated. His legecy is that of power. Men like this, who wish to take the heritage of what America was and is cannot be President.

I am truly scared of the future for what the world is becoming. But at the same time, I can only hope that those amongst us who are truly American will stand up and realize what we need.

I love you all. God Bless this Blog.

Scott

105 Zack  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 5:54:05pm

92 grayp

...inherent logical conflict...

Do you even begin to know what an inherent logical conflict is? No? Thought not.
You are the floater turd Theresa Heinz Kerry thought she flushed earlier but hung around instead. Don't worry, the maid will -- OOPS -- gone already.

Back on topic: China's geometrically expanding consumption is currently the lethal X-factor. There is no easy way to keep prices from continuing to skyrocket - except for a possible Strangelovian attack on China and possibly a few other strategic targets. I doubt that even Bush has the stomach for such a solution, although the contingency plan has no doubt been formulated and presented by Rand or some other think tank.

Just this week China raised interest rates to try to slow things down a bit. It may still be "about the economy, Stupid," but our economic future is more and more about the price of oil. We may be confronted with stark choices in the very near future.

106 Smith Space Technologies  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 6:07:25pm

I do belive I will eloquently and masterfully lock and load my Second Amendment RIGHT to enforce the rest of my rights!

What happend in 1861 can happen in 2004-05 as an armed conflict between the Left (the bad folk's) and the Right (the good folk's).

Along with the Left (the bad folk's) the UN, Muslams, and other Vermin that carry (Kerry) fleas that have the plague will join together into one.

Good allways defeat the Stupid Evil Bastards!

Go ahead make my day you stupid evil bastards!

107 satan sidekick  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 6:07:58pm

kathyp

My brother is convinced that Kerry is the anti-christ. He used to belong to a Bible group and studied the Revelations. Even creepier was on Thursday when Kerry was at a rally and people were holding up 6s all around him. All you could see were 666666!!

I am not religious and have never read the Revelations but it did make me pause in my steps when I saw all those 66666s

108 Boss429  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 6:09:17pm

It really does appear that if you're a white christian you have no rights anymore. If the majority continues to have to cave in for the minorities there will only be trouble in the future. It's time to go to the polls people, 49% turn out is why this is happening. You have a voice, use it Tuesday!

109 satan sidekick  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 6:14:21pm

Boss 429

You got that right. That's what we get for being "nice", working and minding our own business. Cr#p

It's a slippery slope. Kerry's got the MSM, UN in his pocket (or on his payroll). If elected, none of us will EVER know the truth about anything.

110 manofaiki  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 6:15:51pm

Why Soros hates Bush.

Soros is a radical leftist. He is an atheist who actually beleives Jewish conspiracy theories. Every single radical leftist cause you can think of, not only does Soros support it, he's donated millions of dollars of his own money to promote them.

George W. Bush

American
Texan
Pro-Life
Christian
Believes in moral absolutes
Capitalist, supports free trade, enterprise
Sees America as leader in world affairs, dealing with threats and promoting freedom and liberty, ending tyranny.

Is going to be re-elected Nov. 2nd

George Soros
Hates America
Is a 'citizen of the world', whatever the fuck that is

Hates rednecks, much prefers to deal with urbane
sophisticated, super-rich,nuanced upper North-
Easterners or Hollywood.

Pro-abortion, pro-infanticide,pro-euthanasia,
pro-eugenics

Atheist, secularist

Believes in relative ethics

Socialist, beleives in state run economy

Sees Old Europe as the real leader whos place has been usurped by the US. Wants to see the UN as the leader in world affairs.

Is going to realize he wasted millions of dollars of his money on Nov 2nd

manofaiki

111 jlfintx  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 6:17:38pm

#107 Satan Sidekick

Kerry is too damb stupid to be the man of sin, although he is definitely a man of sin...

112 tigerwoman  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 6:18:55pm

Great article. Although, it does absolutely nothing to relieve the anxiety I feel about Tuesday. I feel like the future of my children hangs on the outcome of Tuesday's election. I can endure anything myself but, when it comes to my children...

113 manofaiki  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 6:19:45pm

Zack:

Got a book for ya.

It's called The Pentagon's New Map, by Thomas P.M. Barnett, the guy who's strategy the Bush Admin. is pretty much following in the War on Terror.

Read the chapter entitled:

WHY WE WON'T BE GOING TO WAR WITH CHINA.

manofaiki

114 satan sidekick  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 6:20:25pm

manofaiki

Soros said that if Bush wins he's going to live in a monastery. One can only hope. I doubt the monks would let him in. I think Tibet would suit him just fine!!

115 tigerwoman  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 6:21:00pm

#110 From your computer keys to God's ears!

116 tigerwoman  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 6:27:44pm

#104...

Nice post. I try to remember, when I think about what the world is becoming, what the bible says about this world..."Do not concern yourselves with the things of this world. Be in this world but, not of this world." I still pray Bush wins.

117 manofaiki  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 6:28:20pm

OT, but I think showing an effect of the Bush policy in the Middle East:

Iranians have hope they can persuade their tolitarian government to change because now they have a democracy being formed right next door and they also have one nearby in Afghansistan:

Several hundred demonstrations against the mullahs took place in Iran in September:

Iran Press News Story Regarding Widespread Protests In Iran

manofaiki

118 satan sidekick  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 6:28:59pm

On a cheery note:

Al Gore campaigned in Hawaii today. Only 1,200 people showed up.

VP Cheney is speaking there tomorrow. At least 10,000 people expected to attend.

Enough said?

119 TheBurbs  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 6:29:06pm

#100 aviator

they [the left] will do all that taxing thinking stuff for us. This mindset is why they feel justified in slanting the news - just helping us out.

No, it's simpler than that. They'll just do all the taxing for us.

120 Victor  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 6:31:01pm

#103 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  10/30/2004 07:53PM PST

Thanks for posting that letter from the libertarian, Hospers. It covers the one thing Paul Johnson's otherwise thorough summation missed: the suicidal leftist rot afflicting civilization.

121 Ol' Southern Boy  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 6:32:29pm

I've always told others that it wouldn't matter if Kerry really was the most promising, intelligent, savvy guy to ever seek the presidency -- I'd still not vote for him, for one reason: coat tails.

The current Democratic party is such a grab bag of nutballs, progressives, socialists, and outright Marxists that I'd never vote to let them anywhere near the levers of national power. Even if Kerry's shit truly didn't stink and his turds were tapered so his asshhole didn't slam shut, far too many of these neosocs would get into positions of power in DC -- there are literally hundreds of politically-appointed positions throughout the government that go to the winning party.

The proper goal is not just to keep Kerry out of the presidency -- the real goal is the keep the Leftists from seizing power. Ever.

This election is not just about Kerry. It's about the future course of the US for the next generation or two. Johnson has it right.

122 barzilla  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 6:34:53pm

#83 Miss Donna

I'm not insulted in the least.

After some of the stunts pulled by the goon factor
these past few months, I can see exactly the point
your sister is trying to make. I just want you to know
that the fringe elements of organized labor don't
represent the thinking of the rank and file.

Traditionally, the leadership of the Unions has been in a
tit-for-tat relationship with the leadership of the
Democratic party. In reality, they can't deliver what
they promise (either of them). As often as not, they
operate for their own benefit.

We don't need to unnecessarily antagonize the
screwball factor out there. We simply need to go get
out the vote.

123 Crazy Ivan  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 6:35:01pm

I think that if Bush is not re-elected, he will still return for a second term. The consequences of a Kerry adminstration and his vision will become obvious, and the people who supported him will bear the worst of the damage (a continual expansion of radical Islam in Europe and terrorist attacks in US cities which just so happen to contain mostly Kerry voters are just a few examples). If Rome can survive Cannae, we can certainly survive Kerry. I have faith that eventually, we Americans will do the right thing (preferably sooner rather than later though).

"Americans can always be counted on to do the right thing...after they have exhausted all other possibilities." (Winston Churchill)
124 Ol' Southern Boy  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 6:36:28pm

I should've read al the comments before I posted (#121). #103, aboo-Hoo-Hoo, already spoke for me.

125 Nancy  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 6:38:26pm

93 Wicksy --

Good, because it still makes me smile, more because of the delightful old place I first had it in Canterbury.

Which is really the only place outside of London that I spent any time in.

126 Dar ul Harb  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 6:39:38pm

#118,

I heard on the radio today that Jesse Jackson, stumping for Kerry in Arkansas, managed to draw a crowd of about 100...

127 Frank_Mtl  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 6:40:08pm

#90 andreaSF

Nice post:-) However, LGF did not change my mind (If you are thinking potential voters, I hope you are right, but with all my admiration for Americans, I am not American). However, LGF has been my best trove on the net of people I feel an affinity with at many, many levels. Plus, the vast majority of posters here are so "Bullseye" on mostly all issues that matter, and express it so eloquently.

128 satan sidekick  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 6:47:53pm

# 126

Having Jesse out there stumping for votes isn't going to cut it anymore. Goes to show you how out of touch the left is. Sending Gore to Hawaii and Jesse to Arkansas. I see slick Willy's visits didn't seem to give sKerry a bounce in FL either.

129 satan sidekick  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 6:53:55pm

New poll numbers - looking good!!!

FL: Bush +4 | OH: Bush +2 | PA: Kerry +2 | WI: Kerry +2 | IA: Bush + 5
MI: Kerry +2 | NH: Kerry +1 | NM: Bush + 4 | NV: Bush +6
CO: Bush +7 | MO: Bush +5 | AR: Bush +8 | WV: Bush +8 | OR: Kerry +6

The usual suspects vote Kerry (except my own NH - big embarasssment)

130 pwinWHOH  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 6:59:38pm

#5 Teacake.
Your question is simply answered:
Soros serves the Devil, and his agenda is the total destruction of everything good that America stands for and any other country that shares decency. He is against religion, protection of life, at any stage, at any age, and in any land. He is an anarchist, and profiteer of others suffering. Soros=Demon.

131 mich-again  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 7:02:02pm

The Euros hate Bush the way sheep hate the sheepdog. Being kept safe from the wolves makes them feel so darn confined, (until that is they watch a fellow sheep get killed and eaten.)

132 jlfintx  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 7:03:27pm

Interesting thought. Have been sitting here in a hotel room reading LGF and wife is watching the tube. The Exercist comes on for a second and at the first of the movie is the Islamic chant.

Interesting isn't it?

133 mich-again  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 7:09:48pm

126 Dar ul Harb

Only a out of touch idiotarian would stump in Arkansas on a Saturday during college football season. My only question is how did they get 100 people? Did that count the camera crew, T-shirt hawkers, and security detail??

You are an idiot Jesse. Coleman Young hit the nail on the head when he said about you...

The only thing he ever ran was his mouth!
134 Conagher  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 7:13:25pm

I wonder how much European history Kerry slept through in his European schooling? My public school education mentioned Muslims threatening to overrun Europe twice. Negotiating with the Muslim hordes usually resulted in a sudden, violent separation of the infidel's head from his neck. Does he think things have changed since then? Islam sure as fuck hasn't. Just ask Nick Berg, Daniel Pearl, Ken Bigley ... the list runs into the thousands just within the past twenty years. Remember the Achille Lauro? Leon Klinghoffer? Even recent history screams out the fact that Islam is more than just a nuisance.


Anyone with a modicum of education in European history (like me) knows that taking anything but a hard line with the Muslims results in dhimmitude if you're lucky. Despite his high-falutin' education, Kerry is an idiot, and as president, he'd be a dangerous idiot.

135 Rose  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 7:17:35pm

Sadly what you get with Kerry is not only a good impersonation of Mr Punch in a punch and Judy show, which like Kerry belongs to a time long gone but also he is a creature shaped and molded to some others design and as with such shows the puppet master and string puller is hidden in the dark and we never get to know who is pulling the strings and that is very much in the here and now and of grave concern.

136 floranista  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 7:19:31pm

#104 scoreboard44

Thanks...great post.

137 footballfan0786  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 7:23:09pm

#113 Thanks.

I just ordered a copy for myself and family to read.

I still believe that if this country just got a big set of balls, and said to the world we aint taking your s*it anymore. Give the terrorists up or face annilation we would get the results we wanted. Told the UN to find a new home, deported the illegals, and moved the forces from the like of Germany et al and placed them on the borders, informed OPEC we will only pay so much for oil, and most important...

The majority started to act like the minority to get its way... life would get much better for all of us.

138 satan sidekick  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 7:29:27pm

137 footballfan0786 for president!!

139 grayp  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 7:33:17pm

#105 Zack

Saudi oil fields will have to be seized to save our economy from the death blow of $7/gallon gas.


You forgot to address this part of your argument. And my, my, my. You know Teresa. I remain blissfully unaware of her concerns about flushing turds. Do spill. Enquiring minds want to know.

140 Passaconaway  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 7:35:54pm

Paul "Spanker" Johnson

"Paul loved to be spanked and it was a big part of our relationship. I had to tell him he was a very naughty boy."

But here's the bizarre thing. Johnson is not just a cult figure wherever two or three spankers are gathered together. He is an adored object of the American Right. Norman Podhoretz loved "Intellectuals." Nixon used to send out Johnson volumes for Christmas. Oliver North was once overcome with admiration at seeing William Casey read a whole Johnson on a plane flight. Dan Quayle kept a copy of Johnson's awful "Modern Times" by him, and employed it as a prop against those who accused him of being no great reader. (When pressed for an exegesis of its content, he announced contentedly that it was "a very good historical book about history.") To be fair to Quayle, "Modern Times" is almost technically unreadable. And so is Johnson's most recent extrusion, "A History of the American People." Of this pseudo-scholarly atrocity -- slavery a mere blip, the New Deal a monstrous tyranny, Watergate a liberal conspiracy, Reagan the summa of statesmanship -- Newt Gingrich has stepped forward in the Weekly Standard to announce it as "perhaps (sic) the most important history of the American people in our generation." And Steve Forbes, in the Wall Street Journal, terms it "a magnificent achievement." And neither of them, I feel confident, agrees with Johnson's grand, risk-taking, entrepreneurial claim that Thomas Edison invented the telephone.

Right wing heros are always good for a chuckle.

141 satan sidekick  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 7:39:54pm

Passaconaway

I hate to see the name of this great Indian Chief being used as a mask for a moonbat.

Of course you find Paul Johnson amusing - you have no damn common sense - moonbats generally don't

142 mich-again  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 7:40:05pm

134 Connagher,

From what I gather, the peace-loving Muslims are the ones who really aren't into their religion 100%. Like a Jew who goes to work on the Sabbath, or a pro-choice Catholic, or a Baptist who tips a few now and then...

There are no devout peace-loving Muslims. The Koran does not provide that much wiggle room.

143 Show Me Sam  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 7:47:26pm

105 Zack
"Back on topic: China's geometrically expanding consumption is currently the lethal X-factor. There is no easy way to keep prices from continuing to skyrocket - except for a possible Strangelovian attack on China and possibly a few other strategic targets. I doubt that even Bush has the stomach for such a solution, although the contingency plan has no doubt been formulated and presented by Rand or some other think tank.

Just this week China raised interest rates to try to slow things down a bit. It may still be "about the economy, Stupid," but our economic future is more and more about the price of oil. We may be confronted with stark choices in the very near future. "

Yes. Isn't it interesting that one of the most important reasonsfor being in Iraq has not even been hinted at during this entire election nighmare? The U.S., Britian and allies (and just about everyone in D.C. know that China has to be kept out of the ME. Such a sad commentary about the state of our world when the truth can no longer be openly stated. Guess it would take a
George Patton to tell it like it is.

So depressed tonight. Should not have watched that damn MSNBC hour on sKerry. Truely feel revolted
by this man and how the MSM is trying to influence
this election.

144 glwing  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 7:49:14pm

#140


Oh goody. A quote from salon.com

ROFLMAO!!!

145 Crazy Ivan  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 7:57:02pm

#144

Salon Media Group shares (SALN) are trading at $0.11/share. A few days ago, trading volume was 500 shares (yes, that's right, $55.00 worth of SALN was traded during the entire day).

That pretty much sums up the value of Salon.com

146 grayp  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 7:57:15pm

I encourage everyone to read the article that Passaconoway linked to in #140. It's a Chris Hitchtens hit piece on the man's sexuality. Here, I'll quote some things Pissoneverything didn't

His disgraceful book "Intellectuals," a foul-minded assault on the Enlightenment, laid a feverish stress on the private lives of secular and rationalist intellectuals. Rousseau was not only "vain, egotistical and quarrelsome," but he "enjoyed being spanked on his bare bottom." Ibsen "would not expose his sexual organ even for the purpose of medical examination. Was there something wrong with it -- or did he think there was?" I don't need to draw you a picture: With sermonizers like this it's just a matter of setting one's watch. Give it just a little time and -- presto! We open the tabloids to see their withered haunches bared to the slipper, and the haggard remnants of their Johnsons exposed to the cruel light of day. (Oxford English Dictionary: Johnson. A common surname, used in low slang to designate: a)The penis. b) A man who is kept by a prostitute or prostitutes; a
ponce.)

As I stated earlier, I never heard of the man prior to this thread. But to my mind, unless one's sexual proclivities involve something other than consenting adults I don't care. As for the implicit charge of hypocrisy carried in the Hitchen's article, the hypocrisy would be about sexual proclivities, yes? Pissoneverything, do you care to address the arguments Johnson made or would you like to trash President Kennedy's stance on the Cuban Missile Crisis because he fucked everything that moved?

147 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb)  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 7:57:25pm

#30 manofaiki

Good parallel. But McClellan was better looking than Hanoi John (and didn't he know it!). Kind of a combination of Hari Kerry and the Breck Girl.

148 mich-again  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 9:02:51pm

143 Show me Sam

Yes, price inflation of raw materials and commodities will happen because of the China economic expansion. The law of supply and demand dictates that.

But the China boom is sure to be followed by the China bust due to too much floating debt without the cash flow to support it. And when that happens, the billion or so Chinese, who have had a taste of an increasing standard of living will not be amused or very patient with their aged ruling class.

The Reds in Beijing are planting the seeds of their own destruction. It will be interesting to watch it all unfold or should I say unravel.

149 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb)  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 9:03:33pm

#35

re Soros:

Soros was dubbed the Man Who Broke the Bank of England, a designation in which he seemed to take perverse pride.Perhaps what is most interesting about the episode, considering Soros’ recent professions of moral outrage at the Bush economic plan, is his blasé attitude toward social mores in business. “If I abstain from certain actions because of moral scruples then I cease to be an effective speculator,” Soros told the London Guardian shortly after the incident. “I have not even a shadow of remorse for making a profit out of the devaluation of the pound.” Pushed further, Soros gave an example. “Let’s suppose speculation went on to push the franc,” he said. “That would be wrong and bad. But it wouldn’t stop me.”

Later on 60 Minutes, when asked whether he felt any complicity in the financial collapses in Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Japan or Russia, Soros was similarly blunt. “I think I have been blamed for everything,” he said. “I am basically there to make money. I cannot and do not look at the social consequences of what I do.” A few minutes later, he reiterated the point in even stronger language. “I don’t feel guilty because I am engaged in an amoral activity which is not meant to have anything to do with guilt,” he said. Worse was Soros’ contention that, despite the fact that a single letter from him to the Financial Times recommending a 25 percent devaluation of the country’s currency sent Russia into an economic tailspin, “I am actually trying to do the right thing.”

Well, try harder, George. You’ve plunged half the world into depression to line your own pocket.

This man is evil.

150 glwing  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 9:10:21pm

#149 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb)


This man is evil.


An understatement.

And he states he is going to go into a monastery if Bush wins? I was not aware that the realms of hell had any.

151 grayp  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 9:10:37pm

#149 Lady

Hi Lady. I've tried to fit Soros into some theme that makes sense. A Jew on the run as a child. A child has no control. I wonder if this is about controlling the world that threatened him and his family. And if Kerry loses, THAT particular hope that a world he controlled financially can control anything else is shot to hell.

I'm betting on slit wrists.

152 HULUGU  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 9:15:26pm

paul johnson is one of the few non LLL historians out there--his take on american history makes howard zinn look like the deranged leftist pussy that he is--zinn is--next to joey bishop --one of the stupidist mots there is

153 Attilla the Dutchman  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 9:49:29pm

I have only been aware of the blog world since Rathergate and am forever grateful that I have found sites like this one. Living in the Pacific Northwest, I was starting to wonder if the rest of the country had gone the way of Moscow on the Willamette (Portland, Or) or Seattle (Leftist haven for the educated illerati). It does my heart good to know that common sense hasn't completely disappeared because of our Public School Indoctrination System. I am a naturalized American Citizen with a Dutch heritage but I am not a Dutch-American. I am an AMERICAN by choice and became an American Citizen while serving in the USNavy. I served during the Vietnam War and although I only spent an 8 month tour of duty there.
I am totally appalled by the candicay of John the traitor Kerry and the fact that the Demonrats would even think to run such a coward as a candidate. What he did during the Vietnam war was despiccable and I would like to tell him so in person ( in a closed, locked and soundproof room) I would like to show him some of the pictures of the friends I lost and some of the pictures of children who had no father when they were growing up because of his treasonous behavior. I'm not sure I would change his mind about his behavior but I'm sure I would make an impact on him
Let's all have a drink to the men who gave their lives for our freedoms and to their families.
"Skoll, Lach Heim, Prost and Bottoms up " to all who sacrificed
Here's to you Dougie

154 Conagher  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 9:53:12pm

153 Attilla the Dutchman

First off, thank you so much for your service. My great grandfather became an American citizen in basically the same way you did. It's a very noble thing.


I hate to toot my own horn (well, hate is actually too strong a word ... ), but I put together a link in my own blog that follows the point you made in your post. While I was putting it together, I went and looked to see if there were any casualties in Vietnam the day Kerry was perjuring himself before Congress. It was such a stark contrast to read about those who sacrificed their lives while Kerry was sacrificing his credibility. Truly, "Kerry Lied While Good Men Died."

155 Throbert McGee  Sat, Oct 30, 2004 11:53:16pm
I've tried to fit Soros into some theme that makes sense. A Jew on the run as a child. A child has no control. I wonder if this is about controlling the world that threatened him and his family.

Soros is Magneto?!

156 Joel  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:10:19am

Normally I think very little of the British chattering classes, however Paul Johnson is an exception.

OT- I was walking through Union Square (Manhattan) early last night whne there was these creeps with a "Free Palestine" banner. I heard one maggot say something to the effect "the Europeans understand our position (i.e. support the Palestinians). I said to the guy "how's Arafat?" He said as I walked away that I was a racist mother fucker.

157 Rufus Lee King  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:43:17am
158 Sean II  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:29:25am

Something needs to be done about Soro's, this M***er F***er has his dirty hands in almost everything regarding this election. He is now suspected of having a hand in some attempt to get the election settled in the liberal courts.

159 JohninLondon  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 3:14:08am

Paul Johnson used to be left-wing - years back, he used to edit the New Statesman, Britain's leading leftie weekly.

Great guy, excellent books, still has lucidity in spite of advancing years.


Meanwhile...that bastard Soros was interviewed last night on BBC World service by some naive young punk who asked "What do you do with your money?" and accepted the cute answer "I use it for philanthropy".

Philanthropy ??? Move-On is philanthropy ??? The BBC gets more and more amateur, more and more blatantly biased in who it chooses to interview.

160 WriterMom  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 3:26:19am

#159 JohnInLondon

Long time no see :)

161 WriterMom  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 3:27:45am

IMHO, George Soros exploits his status as a Holocaust survivor to justify his moonbatery, just like Norman Finkelstein uses his parents for the same reason.

162 Frank IBC  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 3:35:31am

#146 Grayp -

As for the implicit charge of hypocrisy carried in the Hitchen's article, the hypocrisy would be about sexual proclivities, yes?

And it would be ironic, too, given that Hitchen's sexual proclivities were attacked by his former buddy on the left Alexander Cockburn.

163 Zaideh  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 3:37:12am

#95 satan sidekick

The Free State concept has been bandied about for decades under various ad hoc groups. I was involved in one back in the 70s that was set to purchase an island in the Caribbean. The idea has never borne fruit. I Keep watching for it to happen.

What are the legal requirements, in terms of land ownership, for NH state residence?

164 dhlawrence  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 4:53:35am

Within the next two years , Iran will be able to produce nuclear weapons. Obviously this CANNOT be allowed to occur.Isreal, either alone or with USA, must use its
newly purchased bunker busters to destroy Iran's reactor.Nothing can stop this from happening!!
This will set off some UGLY responses from the Islamic
troglodites.If they were to overthrow the Saudi regime,we would have to take the Saudi oil fields to protect our and the west's economies.
Do we want the traitor Kerry as president when this all goes down? Western civilization is at risk, we must have someone leading us that has STONES,not a limp wrist from windsurfing.

165 andrew2  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 5:05:03am

The problem I am having with President Bush and the Republican Party is that they have abandoned traditional conservativism.

Under his presidency he has done much to further destroy American conservatism especially when considering his views on immigration and as a result, the country is shifting even further to the left.

His conducting of the so called "war on terror" in Iraq is unlikely to result in a decisive victory over Islamism without a Sherman like approach. American troops are under constant threat of insurgent activity as they are not free to seek and destroy the enemy as an army must to emerge victorious.

Dresden or Hiroshima like military action is not possible in modern warfare under proportional use of force laws and does not apply to the new style of urban warfare which is a feature of the new Islamist war on the West.

As such Immigration control and secure boarders make more sense than the placement of a hamstrung army on foreign soil which will only result in greater loss of life prolonged suffering and strengthening of the insurgent forces with the danger of the introduction of an Islamist government in the vacuum.

In that sense, Bush has introduced the very half measures he promised would not occur, yet is anybody really convinced that Kerry will do a better job now that Bush fired the first salvo of what promises to be an endless war against a middle age type of enemy who has not forgotten Poitiers or Lepanto or Al Andulus?

Conversely, Kerry's vision of American power is forfeiting America's sovereignty to the UN which as everyone knows is populated by those very regimes and despots, anti-American, anti-Israeli and anti-Western entities that all seek the destruction, marginalization and cultural religious transformation of both America and indeed the rest of the world.

Additionally, obviously character is not a consideration in this endorsement. Kerry simply cannot be trusted. His past performance as a naval officer leaves much to be desired. In a way, the old adage that time heals all wounds is aptly illustrated here. Kerry an anti-war protester while still an officer, a man whose anti=war efforts aided and abetted the enemy who to this day honors him in their formerly "War Crimes" museum for his role in supporting the anti war movement in America. His actions are said to have caused additional torture for naval aviators who were shot down over Viet Nam and were presented with Kerry's statements to the American media. Additional suffering for his statements and actions was their punishment.

Look at his record in the senate, his stunning hypocrisy and turn coating on issues. Look at his conduct in this campaign which by the way is supported by the very Islamists he wants to oppose. Just like in Viet Nam, he is dividing America along party lines and not convincingly rejecting the endorsement of Bin laden for example.

On and on, it should be clear to anyone that as bad as Bush is, he is not a man without scruples, without principles hell-bent like a crack addict in search of a fix to obtain the White House. In a sane America, the rejection of such an odious charlatan would be swift and certain. Yet those unseen forces which seek to perpetuate the same mentality of those policies that culminated in 9-11 are hiding behind the smiling face of leftist liberalism, behind whose face hides a grotesque gargoyle waiting to transform America into a land of endless disunity and disruption. That what the democrats excel in, not solutions but disruption. Both the democratic and republican party are becoming an enemy to the traditional Reaganisque conservatism that made America great.

Kerry as a serious candidate is a testament to the seriousness of the social condition in America. And liberalism, political correctness, multiculturalism and the silent majority remaining quit while their cultural heritage is being stolen from them are to blame.

166 D.C. Watson  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 5:05:13am

I pray to God that Bush is re-elected. If Kerry and his backwoods running mate get in, America is going to look like easy pickings for our enemy.

The people in the M.E. are going to hate us and want us dead no matter what we do, so wouldn't it be better to dominate them rather than appease them?

The radicals want a global caliphate, no matter what we do, that's their aim, so we might as well bend them over the anvil of American power. It's all they understand.

167 Attilla the Dutchman  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 5:11:52am

I am very intrigued by the free state concept but I think it should be expanded. All conservatives west of the Mississippi and liberals east of it.

168 JohninLondon  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 5:14:56am

WriterMom

I have been away 5 weeks, trekking in Nepal. No Internet, no phone - sheer bliss !!!

Hopefully back in time to see JFK blown to smithereens. And then to hear the Moores etc seethe and whine. And watch the whole damn Bush-slamming world wise up to realipolitik.

169 BBev  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 5:19:11am

JohninLondon

Lucky you in many ways. Ilive in New Hampshire, a battle ground state. God, more ads that you want to know. It just come down to Bush is the better man. Thats it you missed nothing. Can't wait till it s over. Could be another month though.

170 jlfintx  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 5:32:44am

#140 Passgas

If you want to speak of history, let's talk about one of your probable heroes, Voltaire. He was the one you remember that said the Bible would soon be a thing of the past and was openly trying to destroy it. After he died, he house was used as a printing press for the bible and his bones were disolved he was so despised.

Another one of those famously "enlightened" and a perfect description of those great French minds.

171 WriterMom  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 6:17:28am

#168 JohnInLondon

You and me both...I can't wait for "the morning after".

172 transient  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 8:00:35am

Anti-idiotarian of the year?

173 DP111  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:23:55pm

168 JohninLondon

Welcome back. Hope you had a good time in Nepal.

As you will gather readily, things have become rather iffy in the last few weeks. If Pres Bush is not re-elected, it will be seen as a defeat of the US and the West in general, and victory for the Jihad. The Jihad will have claimed not only the head of Spain's Aznar but also that of Pres Bush the CinC. American muslims will crow that they brought about the victory of Kerry with their bloc vote. Their position of influence will increase even further then it already is. If GWB loses, it will leave Tony Blair in a very parlous position. The EU, the American Left - now with Kerry in charge, and our won Left, will be baying for his blood.

This US election is no more just about America but whether the Western civilisation, nay civilisation itself, will be triumphant over the cult of evil that is islam.

174 JohninLondon  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 5:58:16pm

DP111

I agree with every word you say.

This election is momentous. Just as Paul Johnson says.

We here in Britain, Europe, wait to hear the judgment of the US people. The democratic judgment. Vox Pop and all that. I'll accept the result either way. Vox Pop.

But Heaven help us if JFK wins.

175 satan sidekick  Mon, Nov 1, 2004 12:23:03pm

#193

Land ownership in NH? You buy it. THere are no other requirements. However in order to be considered a resident (voting, registering your vehicles), you have to show a utility bill of some sort. So simply buying a piece of land might not get you a vote.


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