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BBC Weeps for a Murderer

Sun, Oct 31, 2004 at 2:47:55 pm PST

The BBC’s Barbara Plett weeps in sympathy with the father of modern Arab terrorism: Yasser Arafat’s unrelenting journey.

Foreign journalists seemed much more excited about Mr Arafat’s fate than anyone in Ramallah.

We hovered around the gate to his compound, swarming around the Palestinian officials who drove by, poking our microphones through their dark, half-open windows.

But where were the people, I wondered, the mass demonstrations of solidarity, the frantic expressions of concern?

Was this another story we Western journalists were getting wrong, bombarding the world with news of what we think is an historic event, while the locals get on with their lives?

Yet when the helicopter carrying the frail old man rose above his ruined compound, I started to cry... without warning.

In quieter moments since I have asked myself, why the sudden surge of emotion?

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1 Final Historian  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 12:49:45pm

There is a word I would like to call her, which I shall defer on with respect to the female lizardoids present. However, as a hint, it rhymes with "witch."

2 hiroshi  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 12:50:39pm
Yet when the helicopter carrying the frail old man rose above his ruined compound, I started to cry... without warning.

She was ululating?

3 security mofo  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 12:52:05pm

ugh...crying for a murderer, could these folks be any more disgusting?...

4 Boss429  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 12:52:11pm

Palestinian populace was a no show for Arafats departure, I guess they do know where the source of their problems lie.

5 Martel-Sobieski  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 12:53:11pm
In quieter moments since I have asked myself, why the sudden surge of emotion?

Gee, well, ummmm, I dunno, errrrr, . . . .

because you are a TERROR ENABLING PROPAGANDIST ?

Could be I guess.

6 David 'Parisian Insider'  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 12:53:25pm
Yet when the helicopter carrying the frail old man rose above his ruined compound, I started to cry... without warning.

So much for the Beebs neutrality. The fact that they did dare to publish this rubbish whithout any questioning is quite demonstrative of what they really believe.

In quieter moments since I have asked myself, why the sudden surge of emotion?

Indeed. Why?????????

7 Blackhorse  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 12:54:22pm

Yeah, I'm crying too, but it's tears of Joy :-)

8 andthenblammo!  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 12:55:06pm
Despite his obvious failings - his use of corruption, his ambivalence towards violence, his autocratic way of ruling - no one could accuse him of cowardice.

"Ambivalence towards violence????!!!" Does the BBC grow these morons in vats?

9 m  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 12:57:28pm

I am speechless.

10 Blackhorse  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 12:57:33pm

#8 andthenblammo!

Does the BBC grow these morons in vats?

To answoer your question, YES

11 Colt  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 12:58:23pm
Despite his obvious failings - his use of corruption, his ambivalence towards violence, his autocratic way of ruling - no one could accuse him of cowardice.

That's the worst she can say about the genocidal anti-Semite who fathered Arab terrorism.

12 bp sf  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 12:59:01pm

#1 Final Historian0

Too kind. Mine rhymes with bunt.

13 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb)  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 12:59:18pm
14 ibrodsky  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 12:59:43pm

Perhaps, Barbara, you still haven't gotten over the loss of Hitler, Eichmann, Yassin, and Rantisi.

15 MichelefromLA  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 12:59:54pm

In quieter moments since I have asked myself, why the sudden surge of emotion?

Because......you're a pathetic, soulless idiot!!! Crying for a man who's been directly responsible for so many innocent men, women and children.

Bluck!

16 jrdroll  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:00:06pm
In quieter moments since I have asked myself, why the sudden surge of emotion?

It must be a bitch to finally discover all your preconcieved notions were lies.

17 MichelefromLA  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:01:17pm

#15

Directly responsible for the deaths of so many innocent men, women and children...is what I meant.

18 ibrodsky  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:01:24pm

Is there a Noble Prize for emotional unintelligence? I nominate Barbara Plett.

19 Colt  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:01:32pm
Debka: Deputy commander of Russia’s strategic long-range air force, Maj-Gen Konstantin Dementyev, shot dead by unknown gunman Sunday night near Smolensk on Moscow-Belarus highway

Grozny Rocked by Double Car Bombings

20 savage_nation[deleted]  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:01:39pm
21 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb)  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:01:41pm

Actually, that's his comrade-in-arms' handiwork. Still, "there went but a pair of shears between them."

22 Infidel  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:02:01pm

The Grand Mufti was the father of Palestinian terrorism and rabid Jew hatred, Arafat's uncle.

"why the sudden surge of emotion?" Because you are the enemy of all that is good and decent, you evil Bee'atch.

23 It's Miss Donna V. to you  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:02:19pm

Barbara Plett also owns a dirty sock Arafat gave her as a keepsake. She sniffs it 4 times an hour. The resulting fumes have utterly destroyed what was left of her frontal lobe.

24 Nancy  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:02:30pm

Makes me want to gag.

I have heard of romanticizing poverty as though being poor gives one some sort of spiritual superiority for no other reason than their "poverty" but this is the first I have seen romanticizing terrorists.

Courageous? Since when is having the power and wealth of a feared despot ever been "courageous."

25 Yossarian  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:02:57pm
I started to cry... without warning.

Spare me. Please. Don't shed tears for Arafat; shed them for the thousands of Israelis whose deaths he has had a direct hand in.

26 Horsesoldier  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:03:46pm

"Yet when the helicopter carrying the frail old man rose above his ruined compound, I started to cry... without warning."

I cried too, the damn thing didn't blow up.

27 Keelie  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:03:53pm

Getting carried away in that helicopter is the closest he'll get to heaven...

Off now. Must cry.

/sarc (just in case)

28 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb)  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:04:11pm

Maybe Babs would enjoy being "fukked Leb-style."

"Last Thursday, in Sydney, the pack leader of a group of Lebanese Muslim gang- rapists was sentenced to 55 years in jail. I suppose I ought to say "Lebanese-Australian" Muslim gang-rapists, since the accused were Australian citizens. But, identity-wise, the rambunctious young lads considered themselves heavy on the Lebanese, light on the Australian. During their gang rapes, the lucky lady would be told she was about to be "f- --ed Leb style" and that she deserved it because she was an "Australian pig."

"But, inevitably, it's the heavy sentence that's "controversial." After September 11th, Americans were advised to ask themselves, "Why do they hate us?" Now Australians need to ask themselves, "Why do they rape us?" As Monroe Reimers put it on the letters page of The Sydney Morning Herald:

"As terrible as the crime was, we must not confuse justice with revenge. We need answers. Where has this hatred come from? How have we contributed to it? Perhaps it's time to take a good hard look at the racism by exclusion practised with such a vengeance by our community and cultural institutions."

Indeed. Many's the time, labouring under the burden of some or other ghastly Ottawa policy, I've thought of pinning some gal down and sodomizing her while 14 of my pals look on and await their turn. But I fear in my case the Monroe Reimers of the world would be rather less eager to search for "root causes." Gang rape as a legitimate expression of the campaign for social justice is a privilege reserved only unto a few. " --Mark Steyn

29 DocScience  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:04:23pm

Imagine her future flood of tears when the lovable yet frail Saddam Hussein steps into the firing squad.

30 Doug  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:05:01pm

I suppose there could have been maybe ONE person in all of Britain that wept when Hitler died.

But now, there are literally thousands of the followers of the dark side.

31 Atlas Wannabe  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:05:11pm

Oh puke.

Because you're a feeble little wuss who wants Daddy to take of you for always...

32 Colt  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:05:43pm

#25 Yossarian

Don't shed tears for Arafat; shed them for the thousands of Israelis whose deaths he has had a direct hand in.

Tears for dead Jews. From a European journalist.

Maybe one day?

33 h-town  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:05:49pm

wtf?

34 andthenblammo!  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:06:04pm

Arafat has groupies!!! Who knew?

35 mirrror  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:06:06pm

She'd cry for the DEVIL if it'd make her a pound (buck).

Oh, she is!

36 Bailador  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:06:08pm

"We hovered around the gate to his compound, swarming around the Palestinian officials who drove by, poking our microphones through their dark, half-open windows"............

Bloody hell, looks like everyone wants to form their own "Swarm" these days.....

37 N.A. PALM  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:06:31pm

The person in not a "western journalist". She is merely another shill for the forces of Arab narchy.

38 ibrodsky  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:07:48pm

Arafat: killed thousands of Jews--give him a noble peace prize.

Palestinians: collectively embrace terrorism, celebrated 9/11, fight over body parts--give them a state.

39 ddd  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:08:38pm

The British always supported Arab murder of Jews.

40 Jagster  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:08:49pm

#24
I have heard of romanticizing poverty as though being poor gives one some sort of spiritual superiority for no other reason than their "poverty" but this is the first I have seen romanticizing terrorists.

LOL - couldn't agree more. Maybe because poverty is the only thing money can't buy?

41 Ed Moran: Abu GOMEX aoa 28C  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:10:24pm

Unbelievable.

I suppose that if Osama bin Laden lives to retirement age she'll also cry for him, since he'll be old and frail.


The thought of Castro hurting himself last week must have had her in hysterics.

Did she cry for the two year old Israeli boy that died with a suicide bombers ball bearing in his brain? The little girl strapped in her car seat who watched her mother and sisters die before being riddled with bullets herself?

Or is it only old monsters.

42 WriterMom  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:10:47pm

What a 'ho.

Charles! There was a photo on AP (it may still be on Ha'aretz English) of some Pali policemen carrying a picture of their leader, and I'm thinking perfect photoshop opportunity....I e-mailed it to you.

43 Mr Pol  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:10:49pm

#19 Colt

I already posted that. Very worrying. Vladimir Mikhailov, like Anatoly Kprnukov before him, is a political animal. Dementyev was supposed to be the brains of the outfit.

44 ibrodsky  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:10:51pm

Still, it's good to hear that Arafat is now essentially brain dead. I hope it turns out Israel was behind this. Sweet justice.

45 mickthemick  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:10:54pm

This is one of the worst white washes of the 'Fish I've ever read.

There was his defiant departure from Lebanon in 1982

Defiant my ass. More like his terrified departure. Ofcourse, he'd have been dead then if the U.S. had not aided and abetted this criminal's escape from justice. I'm looking forward to the day when he FOAD's. When Arafat is in Hell there will be no U.S. State Dept. insisting the Devil handle him like a prince.

46 griffon  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:11:11pm

This woman obviously needs to be on an antidepressant. She cries over nothing.

47 Colt  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:12:04pm

#43 Mr Pol

Could you expand on that?

48 RC neo-Jew  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:13:16pm

The BBC - still "waging the campaign shoulder to shoulder" with the palestinians - remember when one of their journalists gave their little secret away, while he was addressing a meeting of Hamas?

They think we've forgotten about that, don't they?

Well, they're wrong.

BBC Correspondent Actively Supports Palestinian War Against Israel

49 scaramouche  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:14:01pm
In quieter moments since I have asked myself, why the sudden surge of emotion?

I'm sure she was quite the puddle when Diana died. Some people derive inexplicable comfort from the illness or death of celebrities, especially if they happen to be trendy leftist "icons" like Yasser or Che. People like Plett think there's something glamorous and risque about the Arafats of the world. And the fact that he happens to want to dismantle the Jewish state accords quite nicely with the sentiments of the British bchattering classes, of which Plett in a member.

50 maven  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:15:31pm

I was shocked that this palestinian propagandist proudly made her comments live on BBC Radio 4 and then had the helpful idea to actually post them on the BBC Web.

What clearer indication is there of palestinian bias in a BBC ME reporter. I often fantasise of Barbara and Orla together - as two of those young helpers to the ailing Arafat - just like Ghandi had. I realise it isn't a fantasy anymore! Maybe there is a clue in Orla's nickname - Oily Gherkin!

I will make a lot of play about this on BBC Messageboards. She HAS to be sacked. I am sure Israeli government will be commenting. BBC is supposed to have an overseer to ME reporting. Let us see him act!

51 deadman  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:15:33pm

Now that the fish is in Paris, maybe its time for the IAF to level the rest of Ramallah compound. No risk of killing the sacred Nobel prize winning terrorist.


With regard to the [bigoted word] gang raping - it seems that the feminist left is leading way back to good ole days when the "she had it coming to her" attitude towards rape victims reigned.

52 WriterMom  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:15:34pm

I wonder if the "surge" of emotion was actually a gun pointed at her little bitty head by a Palestinian, dictating her dispatch?

53 Blackhorse  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:15:37pm

#19 Colt

Makes you wonder how long Russia is going to just sit and take it time after time.

Many posters here have stated they believe Russia would respond after the days of mourning have passed. I think it has passed, and still no response from Russia.

54 Geepers  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:16:40pm

British Journalists weeping for Arafat and calling for the murder of Bush.

Hey as long as ya got your priorities straight.

55 Mr Pol  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:18:45pm

#47 Colt

According to my sources, Konstantin Dementyev was the best strategist of the Russian air force. His bosses (Kornukov, then Mikhailov, the current CinC of the Russian air force) are better managers than he was, and a lot more political, which is why they ended up that high. There are other good thinkers in Russia, mind you, but nobody quite matches Dementyev.

Remember those rumors about a possible war between Georgia and Russia? How better to win a war against a vastly more powerful enemy than to eliminate the best military leaders before it starts?

56 runrabbitrun  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:19:32pm

I wonder if she cried when Arafat turned down the best deal he was ever going to get from the Israelis. I wonder if she cried when she realized that, although he represented a group that had tried to conquer Israel, and found themselves conquered instead, he insisted on having Israel's very right to exist as a bargaining chit.

I doubt it.

She is sure to say that she doesn't hate Jews. To someone like her, the Jews who died in the concentration camps, they were good Jews. Those who live today in Israel, those are the bad Jews.

In other words, to her, the only good Jew is a dead Jew.

57 Reactor  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:19:36pm

I read her column in silent disbelief. I read the postings from those that refer to LGF fans as fascists. They don't understand and they never will.

I truly believe that should Kerry win next week, it will be the single biggest win for Islamic murderers. Spain was small potatos.

58 lxj  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:20:45pm

The BBC show "Panorama" had a look at the US election tonight and all I can say is: no wonder the average Brit thinks we (Republicans) are just a bunch of evangelical fat assed hicks.

I took a few notes:

1. The show started at The Holy Land Theme Park in Orlando, where they do "The Passion" every morning when they open.

2. The first interview was with the guy (handsome, nice hair, dumb as a rock) who plays Jesus.

3. Showed some Orlando Baptist Church material "W.W.J.V." or Why Would Jesus Vote.

4. Labled Bush "The most overtly religious President in modern history."

5. Interviewed middle-aged and elderly vets at a Orlando VFW. These guys were clearly half in the bag, but were asked questions about geopolitical dynamics.

6. Interviewed Michael Moore with sort of a scholarly air about him. Moore came across as this moderate guy sympathetic to both sides (though surely wanting Kerry to win.)

7. Long interview with Corrine Brown D-Orlando. All I can say is "sheesh." She did say, among other things, that she would tell Kerry he is up against "slimeballs" and do whatever it takes to win even to "cut his heart out", referring to W.

8. Brown got ample time to get out the Dem talking points about the 2000 election, how it was stolen etc. etc. etc. with no refutation of her "facts." They interviewed a twice convicted felon who was having trouble getting his voting rights restored. After all, he had "sent a letter to Jeb Bush and everything" in March and yet had failed to receive a response.

9.Consistently, without fail, managed to make a person supportive of the Bush team look like the kind of moron who can't zip up the zipper without help. I can't define it; it just seems they would wait for a person to do or say something stupid, inconsistent or to even just stutter badly and bang, it was going into the program. Nearly all the Republican supporters featured were fat and very white bread. The Dems were shown as all races, colors and creeds, naturally.

10. Meanwhile, Corrine Brown is making up new words for the dictionary and yet comes across as reasonable in her complaint. (And I know its horseshit.)

If I saw this show about another country, I wouldn't like them either.

59 JWM  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:20:55pm
In quieter moments since I have asked myself, why the sudden surge of emotion?

Maybe emotions fill the gap where your soul ought to be.

JWM

60 loppyd  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:21:09pm

Maybe someone will convince her to stand in front of an Israeli tank....worked wonders last time.

61 maven  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:21:26pm

Just to add something about BBC attitudes to Joos. The following text on a BBC Messageboard was deemed to NOT be offensive, antisemitic.

"Is it any wonder that Arab as well as European nations are dismayed by the things said by those who speak for the American administration in interviews or studio-hosted public debates on television. Furthermore, is it any wonder that they give little credence to the things said, when the US spokesperson almost always is a Jewish American neocon. Surely having a Jewish American speak on America's policy in the Middle East is not only extremely unhelpful, but manifestly counter-productive. After all, an American Jew is hardly impartial when it comes to Palestine and the intifada. There is ample evidence of that in the comments and speeches of Richard Perle, a regular on British tv screens, whose vociferous anti-Palestinian diatribes are out of tune with the more measured words of the administration. Sadly, this is not backed up by more measured action. Surely the US administration is undermined by the presence of so many Jewish Americans in its ranks. That they are devoted neocons, certainly, does not help. After all, during Northern Ireland's peace talks, how would Sinn Fein have reacted if the representatives of the British government had all been protestants from Northern Ireland? The whole world is shaking its head in disbelief at so insensistive, so imprudent, so provocative an act on the part of the American government. The usual suspects will almost certainly decry this as 'anti-semitism', as always, when all it really is, is common sense. When you enter the bullring, you don't wear a bright red outfit, do you! Isn't it time to stop pussyfooting around and start saying it like it is. "

BBC = Guardian/Palestine Chronicle

62 Sean II  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:22:16pm
63 andthenblammo!  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:22:19pm

The BBC's unrelenting journey

By Barbara Plett
BBC correspondent, West Bank


The world watches the unfolding drama as the network that was regarded as the symbol for fair reportage seems to hover between life and death. Though full of uncertainties, the BBC's life has been one of sheer dedication and resilience.


To be honest, the coverage of the BBC's illness and departure from reality was a real grind. I churned out one report after the other, without any sense of actual fact.

Foreign journalists seemed much more excited about BBC's fate than anyone in Wapping.

We hovered around the gate to the BBC's compound, swarming around the network officials who drove by, poking our microphones through their dark, half-open windows.

But where were the people, I wondered, the mass demonstrations of solidarity, the frantic expressions of concern?

Was this another story we Western journalists were getting wrong, bombarding the world with news of what we think is an historic event, while the locals get on with their lives?

Yet when the helicopter carrying the frail old network rose above its ruined compound, I started to cry... without warning.

In quieter moments since I have asked myself, why the sudden surge of emotion?

And just where the hell did all of the editors go?

64 Fly  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:22:42pm

I cried too...when I saw it wasn't a coffin.

65 security mofo  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:23:09pm

one reason Bush must win, the Barbara Pletts of the world might just kill themselves...

66 RC neo-Jew  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:25:15pm

The BBC invite you to make comments here.

They do not, however, guarantee that they will take the slightest bit of notice of them.

67 Colt  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:25:17pm

#53 Blackhorse

Don't put any money on that.

#55 Mr Pol

Interesting. Keep me updated, please.

68 Promethea  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:25:30pm

#24 Nancy . . .

I have heard of romanticizing poverty as though being poor gives one some sort of spiritual superiority for no other reason than their "poverty" but this is the first I have seen romanticizing terrorists.

I think you've hit on an important concept here. In my many discussions with LLLs about Ariel Sharon and the Palestinians, the core idea that seems to trump all other thoughts is that the Palestinians must be right because they are poor (even if they're not--they're probably richer than many people elsewhere. Anyway...)

This absurd view of poor people is one more reason that I'm no longer an LLL. One place where this really shows up is on NPR, which makes me gag when I listen to it. Notice how NPR always does sob stories with on-the-street sound effects about illegal immigrants, black jazz or blues musicians, poor farmers, whatever. These stories are always told in the most PATRONIZING manner possible, as if the reporters were slumming.

Gaak. I can't stand NPR, I can't stand slumming LLLs, and I can't stand Palestinian terrorists.

/OK, end rant

69 Earl  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:26:01pm

Yet when the helicopter carrying the frail old man rose above his ruined compound, I started to cry... without warning

Sister, I share your emotions.

Except, I'd be crying because the epicyclic control in the helo did not malfunction, causing the aircraft and all its occupants to die in a fiery maelstrom.

Just think what coulda been- the ULTIMATE pali car swarm...

70 andthenblammo!  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:27:08pm

Next Tshirt to be popular on college campuses will be Arafat standing behind Che Guevara. Che will look worried, as well he might..................

71 Ann  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:27:52pm

I didn't see any reference to Arafat's 1.3 billion in personal worth...
Murderous and corrupt brings tears. Unbelievable.

72 Blackhorse  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:28:14pm

#57 Reactor

I agree with you Reactor. I think Kerry is a dangerous man. I'm not sure the elevator goes to the top.

I really do not believe he will be able to handle the stress as President. He strikes me as being somewhat of a madman.

73 Rose  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:30:22pm

I wonder how many tears she shed for the young and pregnant mother, her four little daughters and all the other innocents brutally slaughtered by Arafat, not only in Israel,
but also Lebanon , Jordan and his own people who dared to sell a house or block of land to a Jew- punishment-butchery or the young women again butcchered in 'honour killing..
How many boxes of tissues for those learning to 'fly' from the WTC.
My wish - that she be condemned to live for the rest of her miserable days in Arafats 'Palestine'.
SICK SICK SICK


Go BUSH BUSH BUSH

74 zulubaby  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:30:58pm

RC neo-Jew (#48)

According to the Post report the BBC defended Faid Abu Shimalla, who works for the network’s Arabic Service, as a “senior and experienced journalist who knows the requirements for impartiality.”

Does the BBC have a service that isn't Arabic?

75 RC neo-Jew  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:31:15pm

#61 maven

Hopefully, more of the population were watching the match on BBC2 than Panorama. I wonder what sort of viewing figures Panorama has?

#63 andthenblammo!

LOL!

76 scaramouche  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:31:20pm

#56 runrabbitrun

I hope you don't mind, but I've adapted an old children's song to capture the Jew-hatred consuming the world:

Skinamarinky-dinky-dink
Skinamarinky-doo,
They hate Jews.
Skinamarinky-dinky-dink
Skinamarinky-doo,
They hate Jews.
They hate us when we're weak
And hate us when we're strong.
They hate us in the morning
They hate the whole day long.
Skinamarinky-dinky-dink
Skinamarinky-doo,
They hate Jews.
(They really mean it.)
They hate Jews
(The ones still living.)
They hate Jews, Jews, very old news.

77 Canadian Jumper  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:31:38pm

I know how she feels.

I mean the tears I shed when I heard of the death of the beloved Fuhrer and later Uncle Josef. Not to mention the weeping and angst that overcame me when Mao and Pol Pot left this mortal coil.
Then the final heart rending sense of loss when Uday and Qusay left the building........I'm an emotional wreck.

Stupid bitch!!

78 Blackhorse  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:33:19pm

#67 Colt

I'm not saying they won't strike back. I'm just saying I'm still waiting.

However, when they strike back I'm sure the UN and the rest of the world will be out in force to condemn their action.

79 Ed Moran: Abu GOMEX aoa 28C  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:34:10pm

Just saw Tom Brokaw ask GWB how the appearance of the OBL tape can be viewed "as anything except a sign of the complete failure of your administration".

GWB answered without slapping him.

80 Asylum Aleikum  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:34:49pm

With "journalists" like this, no wonder BBC is such a cesspool of dhimmitude.

81 dulce  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:34:55pm

It's just that touching Nazi sentimentality at the thought of a world that's Judenfrei.

82 flyboy  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:35:06pm

To BBC?s Barbara Plett

You cried because you're a blithering idiot.

83 zulubaby  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:35:56pm
Compare that to the few hundred loyalists who came out to watch him leave the West Bank on Friday, waving and calling out one of his favourite sayings: the mountain cannot be shaken by the wind.

What a liar. They were chanting the usual -- “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free!”

85 RC neo-Jew  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:37:57pm

#74 zulubaby

Does the BBC have a service that isn't Arabic?

I think the word is Arabist! The bit he worked for is the one where they speak Arabic, so that it's both Arabist and Arabic.

You've just reminded me of a biased news item I heard on BBC Radio Scotland when I was driving through the Highlands - that was Arabist, but with a Scottish accent.

86 EIDE_Interface  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:38:55pm

#8 andthenblammo:

They grow them the same way the monsters are done in Buffy the Vampire slayer.

87 zulubaby  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:40:19pm

RC neo-Jew, that's what I meant, Arabist. The BBC is giving al-Jazeera stiff competition.

88 mickthemick  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:40:50pm
Was this another story we Western journalists were getting wrong, bombarding the world with news of what we think is an historic event, while the locals get on with their lives?

< If she wants to cover something the locals care about she should show up at the ensuing car swarm the next time one of the Hamas thugs meets his maker. The only people who care about the 'Fish are people on the Fatah payroll.

89 EIDE_Interface  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:41:22pm

#69 Earl:

Except, I'd be crying because the epicyclic control in the helo did not malfunction, causing the aircraft and all its occupants to die in a fiery maelstrom.

Just think what coulda been- the ULTIMATE pali car swarm...

now that would be interesting...

90 SangerM  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:41:24pm

This is not surprising, really.

On Thursday, 23 Aug 73, the Sveriges Kreditbank of Stockholm, Sweden was taken over by 32 year old prison escapee Jan-Erik Olsson. He held four of the bank employees hostage for 131 hours in an 11'x47' vault. Later interviews with the hostages yielded surprising results--results that have been confirmed in other hostage situations since then. The captives were not able to explain it, but they displayed a strange association with their captors, identifying with them while fearing those who sought to end their captivity. In some cases they later testified on behalf of or raised money for the legal defense of their captors. The location of the event gave its name to this mental aberration, now known universally as "The Stockholm Syndrome."

Barbara Plett cried for Arafat for no other reason than she is as much a hostage to her own weak and corrupted belief system as the Sveriges Kreditbank employees were hostages to Jan-Erik Olsson. To spend time among a people is to put faces to them, to become familiar with them, to empathize with them. That Plett is a woman who feels safe and comfortable hovering around the gate to Arafat's compound, "swarming around the Palestinian officials who drove by, poking...microphones through their dark, half-open windows" tells me that she has gone "native" in the most serious kind of way.

And of course, looking out from the inside, she doesn't see it, which is why she doesn't understand it.

Stupid git.

-SangerM

91 RC neo-Jew  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:41:26pm

#83 zulubaby

one of his favourite sayings: the mountain cannot be shaken by the wind.

Is that a reference to one of the symptoms of his illness?

92 Canadian Jumper  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:41:38pm

Allah och aye!!!!! Pass the Old Grouse!!

93 runrabbitrun  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:42:49pm

#76 scaramouche

Here's one oldie, but goodie, you may recall :)

Oh, the Protestants hate the Catholics
And the Catholics hate the Protestants
And the Hindus hate the Moslems
And everybody hates the Jews

-Tom Lehrer

94 jrdroll  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:43:21pm

#69 earl
Abdul Look it slices and dices.

95 JAB  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:43:37pm

Tears for a terrorist! By what rationale does this woman function? Count the dead babies lady, Arab and Jew! The tell me how noble he is.

96 Ed Moran: Abu GOMEX aoa 28C  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:43:59pm

Michelle Malkin notes the latest in LLL Halloween Humor.


What could be funnier than beheaded hostages?

97 scoreboard44  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:44:18pm

Wasn't that the "Helsinki Syndrome". I saw that on "Die Hard".

Just kidding....no hatin' here.

98 RC neo-Jew  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:44:33pm

#73 Rose

My wish - that she be condemned to live for the rest of her miserable days in Arafats 'Palestine'.

Or, better still, in Arafat's room. (See #91)

99 mickthemick  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:46:18pm

#96 Ed Moran

What could be funnier than beheaded hostages?

Beheaded leftists certainly comes to mind.

100 Ed Moran: Abu GOMEX aoa 28C  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:47:02pm

91 RC Neo

#83 zulubaby

one of his favourite sayings: the mountain cannot be shaken by the wind.
Is that a reference to one of the symptoms of his illness?


No, that is a flatulence reference.

101 It's Miss Donna V. to you  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:48:56pm

Some in the UK get it. The Telegraph endorsed Bush today (although the editors made it clear, in a dig at al-Guardian, that they were not attempting to "meddle" in the US elections):

Mr Kerry has done everything to encourage the charge that he is stranded in the world of September 10. "We have to get back to the place we were," he said this month, "where terrorists are not the focus of our lives, but they're a nuisance." That would no doubt be desirable. But nothing Mr Kerry has said suggests that he knows how to achieve this goal. The intellectual vacuum at the heart of his candidacy has profound implications for Britain's strategic interests and the lives of our troops: in both cases, this country would be better served by the re-election of Mr Bush.

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...] Registration required.

102 Almostout  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:50:41pm

Ed Moran: Abu GOMEX aoa 28C,

I want to know at what point this country became full of people who are unable to put two and two together. Do Americans really think that by killing Osama muslim terrorism will go away? Can they not open a newspaper, other than the NYT of course, and read what muslims are doing in Thailand, Indonesia, Mali, Zanzibar, Nigeria, Russia, Mauritania, Algeria, Sudan, etc, etc? Can they not connect the dots and figure out what their ultimate goal is?

103 HULUGU  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:51:25pm

any truth to the rumor that the mossad was dunking the arab peckers of the paleostinean rent boys that the fish was bluzing in lsd and arsenic--so he would be thinking that he was going crazy on a bad trip as he was slowly dying--later fish

104 dustyroadguy  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:52:49pm

Almostout

No

105 Earl  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:52:50pm

#73 Rose

In memory of Mrs. Hatuel and her wee daughters.

I'm still swinging between abject sorrow and seething anger over that atrocity. But, more often, seething anger.

In coelo quies est.

Am Yisrael Chai!

106 Canadian Jumper  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:52:53pm

#70

I was a ta biker do this year and a guy was selling the ultimate Che Guevera t-shirt. Evidently he had advertised them and the lefties sent in for them by the hundreds.

When they arrived it was the picture of Che laying out with about 15 bulletholes in him and being stood over by 5 Bolivian cops!! They were not amused.

Biker humour....gotta love it.

107 HULUGU  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:54:54pm

i mean i'm sure he had a foodtaster--that's in how to be an arab despot 101--but -a cocktaster-well-i dunno about that--buh bye guppy

108 RC neo-Jew  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:55:00pm

#100 Ed Moran: Abu GOMEX aoa 28C

Well, you are our resident expert on wind, after all...!

109 Uncle Sticky  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:55:53pm

Starting to cry? I would like to bitch slap this idiot. This makes me so angry!!! What is wrong with the guilty lefties?

110 RC neo-Jew  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:55:57pm

#100 Ed Moran

The meteorological kind, I meant....

111 sallylou119  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:55:57pm

In quieter moments since I have asked myself, why the sudden surge of emotion?

Could be you're an idiot.

112 zulubaby  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:56:04pm

Ick. I wish he'd just die already. BBC Babs will plunge head first into a depression.

113 Iron Fist  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:56:19pm

#99 mickthemick,

I tend to favor handcuffing their right hand to their left leg, dousing them with gasoline, and setting them on fire.

Much funnier than merely beheading Leftists :-)

114 LoFlyer  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:57:41pm

I was wondering if her crying is because she is losing a valuable news source, and a loss in revenue. Most of us are more interested in how Arafat’s death will play out. Who will become the new leader of the Palestinian state and will they continue with their policy of terror against Israel? Will the Palis revert back to a civil war? It would be in the best interests of both the Israel and the US for the Palestinians to fight among themselves for a couple of years, and with the Israeli wall in place, that is the most likely scenario. The worse case would be for a new leader to be installed immediately and you know they are going to say Israel poisoned Arafat, leading to a new terror offensive.

115 mich-again  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:58:52pm

More Plett blather including this assinine comment from a Ramallahite.

"The suicide bombings are wrong, but just a few people are doing that, the Israelis didn't have to punish everyone.

Is it a surprise she gets teary-eyed over Arafish?

116 zulubaby  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 1:59:27pm

France Finds Itself Back in Mideast Fray

In treating ailing Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat and with two French reporters held hostage in Iraq, France has been thrust back into the thick of Middle East politics — even though it stayed on the sidelines during the Iraq war.
Dispatching a plane to fly Arafat to a top military hospital southwest of Paris offered France, long a supporter of the Palestinian cause, another opportunity to burnish its image in the Arab world.

French experts, however, are divided on whether the humanitarian gesture could benefit French efforts to free journalists Georges Malbrunot, Christian Chesnot and their Syrian driver, who marked their 73rd day in captivity Sunday.

This drek is what passes for journalism these days.

117 Peter Verkooijen  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:00:56pm

Absolutely sickening, not only the weeping for a murderer, but the misplaced aristocratic deference for the 'locals', the lowly subjects of her great hero.

118 DCMC  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:01:46pm

In case anyone has any doubts about Arafat, check out these pictures:

[Link: www.moralclarity.com...]

[Link: www.mideasttruth.com...]

DCMC

119 Luigi  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:02:54pm
Yet when the helicopter carrying the frail old man rose above his ruined compound, I started to cry... without warning.


She crying because her world is crumbling down and no one seems to care except her. Without Arafat to order his own demonstrations, there are none. And without the established order, she has none. She is Leni Reifenshtal without a rally. A fascist with a parade is -- just a drunk.

120 Ed Moran: Abu GOMEX aoa 28C  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:03:13pm

Patriots streak buster running long. Probably 30 minutes to go before "60 Minutes".


I'm not a Nielsen family, so I won't help their ratings or patronize their advertisers, and I am just dying to know what final "October Surprise" they have ready since Memo-gate fell apart and the NY Slimes ran their missing explosives story too early.

121 LesLein  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:03:28pm

Despite his obvious failings - his use of corruption, his ambivalence towards violence, his autocratic way of ruling - no one could accuse him of cowardice.

Oh yes we can. Why didn't Arafat ever strap on a suicide belt himself, rather than brainwashing others, including children, to do his dirty work?

Foreign journalists seemed much more excited about Mr Arafat's fate than anyone in Ramallah.

We hovered around the gate to his compound, swarming around the Palestinian officials who drove by, poking our microphones through their dark, half-open windows.

But where were the people, I wondered, the mass demonstrations of solidarity, the frantic expressions of concern?

Was this another story we Western journalists were getting wrong, bombarding the world with news of what we think is an historic event, while the locals get on with their lives?

Yes. You're wrong again.

122 oceanfire  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:05:52pm

grr. Yet another example of how the press as a whole is completely out of touch with what is important. Example: the 10 minutes of air time CNN devoted to fisking the Bush wolf add, and charming quotes about how the wolves would never vote for Bush--and neither would any animal. (Actually, that's a lot funnier now that I write it...I'm amused to the extent that the sick feeling in my stomach I got from reading this article has lifted.)

123 SangerM  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:06:00pm

103 HULUGU


That would make a slick arsenic dick lick trick flick for Mikey Moore, eh?


Brilliant!

124 Earl  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:06:33pm

#114 LF

Several comments:

Who will become the new leader of the Palestinian state...
No one in the foreseeable future, as there is (deservedly) currently no Palestinian state. But, if you meant "who will become the leader of the Palestinian cesspool?" then, I guess, it's whoever is leading whatever faction that controls that rancid part of the foetid pali conclave on any given day.

Will the Palis revert back to a civil war?
I've been predicting a Lord of the Flies scenario for months. (No, really, search LGF for my posts ;) ) IIRC, scaramouche wished that "from my lips..." LOL

125 mickthemick  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:09:39pm

Iron Fist

I tend to favor handcuffing their right hand to their left leg, dousing them with gasoline, and setting them on fire.


Oh, so do I. But with gas costs rising I've been forced to budget this Holloween. Still, there's nothing like waking up to the smell of burning lefty..... ;)

126 Blackhorse  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:10:00pm

#116 zulubaby

French experts, however, are divided on whether the humanitarian gesture could benefit French efforts to free journalists Georges Malbrunot, Christian Chesnot and their Syrian driver, who marked their 73rd day in captivity Sunday.

Humanitarian gesture? That's exactly what John Kerry would be offering.

I agree with you on what passes for journalism these days. It is utterly out of control, anything and everything goes.

127 HULUGU  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:11:41pm

to watch bbc world or cnn europe is to see the future of western civilization as it will be lived in europe either under an LLL uberclass of highly educated post modern leftist twits or their islamic overlords---it truly inspires nausea

128 andthenblammo!  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:12:24pm

#124 Earl:

Lord of the Flies

Man, if anybody qualifies for that title, it's Arafat....

129 Indeed!  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:12:28pm

Journalists are odd human beings.

130 Luigi  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:13:05pm

What a pleasant surprise. There's a football game running late instead of 60 Minutes. So the can't pollute our republic with their irresponsible propaganda at the last minute:

60 Minutes (New) Talk, Newsmagazine, Soldiers lack the fully-armored vehicles necessary to survive constant roadside bombings in Iraq;
131 zulubaby  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:13:25pm

Blackhorse, the French sent a private plane for Arafat, they placed themselves right in the middle of everything, but note the passive voice in the headline of the story, as though the woke up one day to "find themselves in the Mideast fray". How did we get here? Idiots. The French and the media, I hate them equally.

132 oceanfire  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:16:48pm

#76 scaramouche

I can't help but laugh at that, especially since I learned from two of my students last Thursday that saying "that's so Jewish" has replaced "that's messed up" and "that's so gay" where they are from. One kid was from Mass and the other was from the Midwest. ...I don't know if they meant me to overhear that conversation or not, but I was wearing my Jewish star that day. Crazy world. Helps to laugh at it.

133 hornet  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:17:16pm

She has worked all these years, getting the Palio stories (lies) just right, and Mr. A Leaves? Oh boo hoo hoo, where am I going to get my next payoff? I have children to feed too you know!

134 canadianconservative  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:17:48pm

Just popped up on on Real Clear Politics

A new CBS(!!!!!)NY Times(!!!!!) poll showing Bush ahead 49-46!!!!

If these guys are showing Bush up, then it's probably really a 6-8 point spread!!

4 more years!!!!

135 Baier  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:18:01pm

That article makes me want to puke.

136 Blackhorse  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:19:51pm

#131 zulubaby

I read a post from yesterday where someone gave a quote from General George Patton. He said, "I would rather have the Germans in front of me than the French behind me."

It sounds like something Patton would say.

137 SangerM  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:21:27pm

Considering the way things are going this time around, it might be meaningful to somebody (not really, but it makes me feel important) to know that I have not been this truly genuinely angry at a presidential candidate since moonbeam Carter's ouster!

When I voted for Reagan, I did so with a vengeance. I hated Carter for his weakness and ineptitude and for turning our country into a laughing stock....

But those feelings were _nothing_ compared to how I feel about Kerry. I just wish that my vote for Bush could be felt by Kerry--I'd slam that lever down (if we still had them) so hard, it'd break Kerry's f'in neck!

Unfortunately, I am not up for a visit from the Secret Service, so I just daydream about Kerry in pain. On the other hand, I really do hope one of those verstunken international observers will be at my polling station. Living in Florida, I figure I'll have as much a chance as anyone to meet one of them...and I would so like to...

I am SOooooo looking forward to Tuesday!!!!!

SangerM

138 LoFlyer  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:24:49pm

#124 Earl, that was what I was thinking, that there is no successor to the Fish, and the Pali’s will break down into local fiefdoms controlled by warlords. This is the Fishes legacy: He was a terrorist at heart, and the Palestinian government with its weak Prime Minister and cabinet, and no real democratic election policy has no chance of survival. The PM and cabinet are the hens, and the foxes control the henhouse. I bet they take the money and run leaving the Palis to shoot it out amongst themselves. I feel sorry for any moderates still left in Palestine. They will be the first to go…

139 HULUGU  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:27:47pm

#132--oceanfire--aha--i was waiting for the "that so jewish" slang to hit our shores since it is derived from beur magrebi arab islamic hip hop street culture in france--only their anti-semitic kids wrap it in pig latin and say--"c'est feuj" or somethimg like that spelling jew backwards and meaning that the object is lame bad or uncool--c'est mal

140 Blackhorse  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:28:13pm

#137 SangerM

I promise you, you are not the only one feeling angry this way.

I just told my wife, it does not matter about all the negative news against George Bush. Nothing will prevent us from voting Bush come Tuesday.

141 Beagle  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:29:13pm
Was this another story we Western journalists were getting wrong, bombarding the world with news of what we think is an historic event, while the locals get on with their lives?

ROFL. I wonder how many middle school kids could have told her yes? When Fidel goes, if he ever does, that will be another story "we Western journalists were getting wrong."

142 Dizzy26  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:29:27pm

When the ugliest man on earth, Alan ColmesArafat gets hoisted in a
helicopter to be flown 'far' away, & she's got tears in her eyes.......Bwaaaaah

Just imagine how she'd feel if Alan Colmes & R. Reich were hoisted and flown to Gaza......:-) 2 for 1 ugly

143 canadianconservative  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:32:24pm

SangerM, Your feelings echo mine. Carter was such a F-ing doofus who nearly castrated the USA. It struck me as a leader that had decided to abdicate its world leadership. That had resigned himself to Soviet domination of Europe and Asia...who would be playing defense with the Sovs until eventually they did take over....

I hated Carter. I have hated the Democratic party ever since Carter. I was 11 in '76 and wanted carter to win. By 1980, however, I had been introduced to hope in the person of Ronald Reagan.

as much as I despise Jimmah Cartah, Kerry makes me absolutely puke. Completely unprincipled piece of shit.

Lynn Cheney was right. "This is not a good person"

I have never hated a politician this much. The Hildebeest comes close, and probably would surpass if she was the nominee, but she isn't.

144 gill  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:32:45pm

Barbara Plett has often made me want to throw up - but never as much as today.

What the hell is a supposedly impartial presenter of facts doing, crying for a terrorist?

I wish my tv licence didn't pay for that trash.

145 Blackhorse  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:33:46pm

#139 HULUGU

Thanks for that post. It seems like I learn something new everyday.

146 canadianconservative  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:34:51pm

Just a thought.... Imagine the LLL US media if Arabrat craps off tomorrow... inmagine the spin just before the election "He was truly a wonderful statesman" "A man of peace"
Imagine all the constant flashes of the big handshake with Clinton at 1600!!!!

147 LesLein  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:36:20pm

60 Minutes will be running the hit job shortly.

148 Jayce  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:36:27pm

#66 RC neo-Jew

Thanks for the link to the BBC. I don't know why I bothered, but I sent them the following comment:


Re: BBC's reporter, Barbara Plett, crying as "frail old man" Arafat, her "steadfast" leader departs his bunker in Ramallah for medical treatment in France

What is the matter with her???

Doesn't she know:

that Arafat rapes little boys?

that he is a homosexual pedophile who has adopted 100 orphan boys?

that he daily tortures animals to death in order to "stay strong", let alone, what he has done to his human followers?

that he is a mass murder of innocents, PERHAPS equaled only by Hitler or Stalin?

that he took on Hitler's Arabic nomme de guerre as his own out of admiration and respect?

I put this deranged woman in the same class as the couple that killed their children and committed suicide in that Berlin bunker because they didn't want to live in a world without Hitler.

That she is published shows that she represents the blind-lovers-of-evil mentality at the BBC. I'm so sorry for you.

149 Bruce Lagasse  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:36:36pm

"Despite his obvious failings - his use of corruption, his ambivalence towards violence, his autocratic way of ruling - no one could accuse him of cowardice. "

So what? Is physical courage a get-out-of-jail card for moral imbecility? Adolf Hitler and Hermann Goering were decorated for bravery during WW1. Years later, Goering authorized Heydrich to convene the Wannsee Conference, which put the Final Solution into high gear. And Hitler seemed to have some moral failings as well. (/Sarc) Even assuming the Fish is not a coward (a big assumption), does this excuse his decades of complicity in the murder of innocents?

150 LoFlyer  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:37:32pm

#137 SangerM, I’ll be working Tuesday night helping to tabulate the votes in my county. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a foreign observer watching us. Being an “election official” I’ll keep my mouth shut and do my job, but I wouldn’t mind talking to them unofficially and find out what they are really doing here, and what their goals are. I have dealt with local election observers over the years, and most of them are good people. Every once in a while we get someone rambunctious, and the police officer assigned to us will pull them off to the side and explain that they are to observe only, not interfere.

151 Athos  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:37:35pm
In quieter moments since I have asked myself, why the sudden surge of emotion?

Because you're a blithering anti-semitic moonbat terrorist supporter?

or is this reflection a small sign that a conscience remains?

NAH - she's a blithering anti-semitic moonbat terrorist supporter.

It's sickening that the Beeb get public funds.......but then, here in the states, PBS and NPR are pretty revolting as well. They try so hard to be Beebjr.

152 Rant Wraith  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:41:06pm

This isn't ideology. It's pathology. She's clearly unstable and needs medication. I'm sure the UK and BBC have doctors who can help this poor unbalanced woman. She's in no condition to be working. Her family should sue the BBC for making someone so obviously ill work in such a stressful environment.

153 Machiavelli  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:44:06pm

should we expect anything else from anti-semites? This guy is a hero for the down trodden palestinians and fights against those oppressing JEWS and thier evil American supports. The kind of hate for jews that is so open in this and other countries is scary. Hitler would be proud.

Heard Richard Dreyfuss, a jew, in the recent Oxford Union debate say something to the effect that we need to be careful how much we support jews because Revelations talks of the jewish state being established and the end of the world right around the corner. And ppl are scared of Bush being too religious? Sure, literaly interpret a 2,000 year old text, and support the destruction of a nation (Isreal) so that Amrageddon doesn't come. Who is the religious nut now?

154 Blackhorse  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:44:49pm

#149 Bruce Lagasse

Very good point Bruce. History does indeed make some strange (evil) bedfellows.

155 Catttt  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:45:51pm

Hmmmm. Cried, huh. Ha!

Did you see the clip where the fella, in his little blue pj's, tries to kiss hands and almost topples out of his chair? I had to bite my lip to keep from laughing.

156 mikeymom  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:52:22pm

#155- i didnt bite my lip-i had a good belly laff-good for the soul

157 jlfintx  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:54:30pm

Hey everyone; our oldest is no longer a teenager today and is a halloween baby, now 20 years old and a good kid. If I can get a couple congrats, I will email to him and get him to start reading the blog that counts.

He goes by DJ.

Thanks

jlfintx

158 SangerM  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:55:04pm

140 Blackhorse 10/31/2004 04:28PM PST
For one of the few times in almost 25 years, my vote will not be cancelled out by my spouse's vote. We rarely agree about candidates, and neither of us has a hard and fast party affiliation, though we're both registered republicans. We have voted on reversing opposite sides almost as long as we've been married, sometimes Dem, sometimes GOP. Not this time!


143 canadianconservative 10/31/2004 04:32PM PST
I was in the Army in '76 (had joined when Nixon was Pres). I hated Carter mostly because I felt he had betrayed us (and would again if the Russian ever attacked Europe). I still hate him, but for a whole lot more... BUT at least, Carter was consistent. Always wrong, but consistently so.

In Kerry's case, the more I learn about and listen to him, and the more I learn about the people who support him, the more my hatred deepens. Frankly, if he wins, I don't know what I would do. I work for the Government, and he would be my boss. And THAT is beyond acceptability to me. I have already told my wife and my boss that if Kerry is elected, I will leave Government service as soon as possible thereafter. This is not an idle threat--I don't make them. Sometimes, one just has to draw the line, and for me this is it.

And if Kerry loses, I am going to continue to fight him. I will be writing to my congressional leaders to encourage them to open investigations into Kerry's past activities, with the express purpose of possibly prosecuting him for treason. And that's not all. I will also encourage them to look at the media's attempts to influence the election by means of fraud and deceit. It may have no meaning, but it wouldn't bother me to see a few media hacks at the testimony table taking some heat....

Beyond that, I am just looking for targets of opportunity. For example, I took the time to write NPR yesterday to tell them the reason I have not donated any money to them for the first time in Years! Bias, bias, and more bias. They may not change, but money talks, and they need lots... All I want is for them to get back to the middle and stay there. (as if)...

Sorry about the meandering... just lots of things going round in my head right now, like a little prayer for hastening Arafat's trip to Hell!

(big sigh)

SangerM

159 gill  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:55:32pm

Please people- write to complain to the BBC - this is serious.


It will only take you a minute.

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]


Thank You.

160 rumcrook  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:57:17pm
I started to cry... without warning.

In quieter moments since I have asked myself, why the sudden surge of emotion?


I was going to say something about this propaganda adled witch bemoaning the failing health of a terrorist murderer, but whats the point. and so many here succinctly pegged her allready.

I'll just let it go tonight.....


aaah the hell with it, SCREW YOU, YOU STINKING EVIL TART

161 canadianconservative  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 2:58:19pm

#153 Machhiavelli:

Dreyfuss cracks me up. He thinks that anything we do down here is going to change G-d's plan one jot or tittle?

What a moonbat.

If he wants to interpret Revelation literally, he might want to take note that only 1/3 of the jews on earth will be saved.... Suppose he knows that as a liberal, he will not be in the right 1/3? Is that what he's afraid of?

He can fix that in a hurry... he just needs to meet with the same little Rabbi that GWB met a few years ago who remains such an influence in his life.

162 maven  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 3:01:05pm

Am I the only one who would suggest that there are two MAIN causes of blood platelet failure. Leukemia and AIDS.

If Arafat doesn't have Leukemia - according to reports - then I await with heightened interest what the illness is.

My bet is that it is Leukemia since they have denied it - with the get-out that they need further tests and those further tests may reveal something worse - at least for an Arab male! Hence, Leukemia is the cop-out.

Wouldn't it be fun to get him to explain THAT!

"The Zionist occupiers have infected our great leader with AIDS through invisible blood-filled darts" Followed by discovery of said objects.

I await the results with great anticipation.

163 zulubaby  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 3:01:37pm

HULUGU (#139)

i was waiting for the "that so jewish" slang to hit our shores since it is derived from beur magrebi arab islamic hip hop street culture in france

Unbelievable. They're so infested with Jew hatred it seeps in everywhere.

Didn't someone post something a while ago about the Iraqis referring to the soldiers as "the Jews"?

164 Blackhorse  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 3:02:01pm

#158 SangerM

For one of the few times in almost 25 years, my vote will not be cancelled out by my spouse's vote.

That is good news. My Mother who turns 80 yrs old next month is a Die Hard Democrat. She has never voted for a Republican. Great News, she IS voting for Bush on Tuesday. That is truly amazing for me, and I'm very proud of her.

165 andthenblammo!  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 3:02:19pm

131 zulubaby:

The French and the media, I hate them equally.

That's just one of your many admirable traits, my dear. You're fair. Cruel, but fair.

166 zulubaby  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 3:02:32pm

jlfintx, a very happy birthday to your baby!

167 SangerM  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 3:05:19pm

150 LoFlyer 10/31/2004 04:37PM PST

Well good luck and thanks for Service!

I know most of the observers will be here to watch and learn, etc... But I heard a woman on the news (just caught a piece of it, so I don't know who she was), speaking heavily accented English talking about how having the observers here would help restore American's confidence in their (our) election system...

I am not an Europhobe--far from it--but that ever-present smugness, the "we Euro-elite know so much more than you paltry, low level, crass citizens of a corrupt country" attitude, just plain PISSES ME OFF!

Basically, as long as they stand there and keep their mouths shut, I'll be fine with that. Even if they were to ask me-RESPECTFULLY-my opinions or thoughts, I could deal with that, but it would simply not be good for one of them to render a negative opinion about my country within earshot. The cops would have to pull me off to the side...

I am just too wound up about this, and that's the simple truth.

Anyway, thanks again!

SangerM

168 jlfintx  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 3:05:45pm

zulubaby

could you make it happy birthday DJ?

That way I can forward to him and show him all the cool people here in LGF. Seeing he is 20 today, he is man enough to start taking life seriously. He has worked since he was 16 and is a great kid and we are very proud of him.

thanks

169 wong fei hung  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 3:06:14pm

This might be inappropriate, but I'm sure if you gave this moonbat vampire-slut a chalice full of Arafat's AIDS-infected blood, she'd drink without hesitation.

170 zulubaby  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 3:06:45pm

andthenblammo!, LOL!! I'm going to tell my friend that one, he'll appreciate it ;-)

171 Beagle  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 3:06:57pm

#159 gill

I told them it sounded like an article by The Onion. I've never read a more slanted piece of total crap in my life. I didn't put it in those words, worry not. I've learned my lesson. [Bad beagle!]

172 Snake Plissken  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 3:07:49pm

This "lady" reporter is sick in the head.

173 canadianconservative  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 3:08:16pm

SangerM, It was a Vietnam veteran who snapped me out of Dhimmitopia in '80.

CArter was a horrrible president but an even worse Ex-prez.You can be sure he'll be right there in front along with the Klintons and kerry at ArabRat's infidel funeral.

Your bit obout NPR is something I can relate to. I was going to join the BBCs classical music club, but now Idon't think I want to funnel any money into that rotten organization.

I'll just buy my CDs from Naxos, and those inexpensive but high quality Polish and Slovak companies out there these days.

174 zulubaby  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 3:09:22pm

jlfintx, of course! Wish DJ a happy Halloween birthday and many blessings for his life as an adult :-)

175 minuteman  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 3:15:03pm

Pleet is a foolish dhimmi and a typical leftwinger. Just loves the "charismatic" dictator. She probably has a Che t-shirt. I only ask that should the west lose this war against islamafascism, that I be there to laugh "I told you so" to her face when she is forced to suffer the fate of those at the right hand of islam's jihadis.

176 exredtory  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 3:18:26pm

#31 Atlas wannabe:

"Daddy" reference rang a bell (jar),
as in Sylvia Path's poem "Daddy"

Every woman adores a Fascist,
The boot in the face, the brute
Brute heart of a brute like you.

However, to be fair to Plath, you have to read the whole thing:

[Link: judithpordon.tripod.com...]


Plett is one of those women ...

177 SangerM  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 3:19:52pm

On another note the Armorer at
Castle Argghhh!
posted the following thought for people who might be thinking about voting for other than Bush. It merits re-posting:

******
Just Remember if you're a Conservative: It's All About The Judges. Damn near period.

If you are a Libertarian pissed at Bush - Kerry's Judges will be worse.
If you are a Conservative pissed at Bush - Kerry's Judges will be worse.

Consider: Chief Justice Clinton. Either one. Justice Gore.

Think about it before you throw your vote away.

If you live in a 'safe' state, and are considering making a protest vote - it would be nice if the plurality and the Electoral College were in alignment this time.

Remember what Hugh Hewitt says, "They can't steal the election if it's not close."

******

Now that is a somber thought...

-SangerM

178 transient  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 3:21:34pm

Drank the Koolaid?
Hell, Plett is running the kitchen lab.

179 Blackhorse  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 3:23:58pm

#177 SangerM

That's exactly why I keep telling people that John Kerry is a very dangerous man.

180 oceanfire  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 3:25:12pm

#139 HULUGU

i was waiting for the "that so jewish" slang to hit our shores since it is derived from beur magrebi arab islamic hip hop street culture in france--only their anti-semitic kids wrap it in pig latin and say--"c'est feuj" or somethimg like that spelling jew backwards and meaning that the object is lame bad or uncool--c'est mal

Oh, is that where it came from? I was wondering how it got started...It makes a lot more sense now. ...but I never thought that anti-semites overseas would express their hatred with more tact.

Thinking about it makes me sick. And my students were laughing as they discussed it "what a strange new phrase." blah. Hopefully, I'll have a chance to point out the origin of that phrase and..um..do whatever else I can to open their eyes a little.

181 Wurm  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 3:26:34pm

Doing a bit of research, this could be the BBC reporting on both sides of the story.

They do tend to broadcast the news as it happens, this report was a correspondent's view.

In four years Barbara Plett seems to have filed only four reports.

[Link: newssearch.bbc.co.uk...]

I say it is GREAT that the BBC publishes these reports. It shows readers and viewers both sides, and the individual can make up their own mind, as you all did.

Don't kill the messenger.

182 minuteman  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 3:30:09pm

Maven 162: Check out Ion Pacepa (sp?) in the Nat'l Rev Online archives. He's written articles detailing his first hand experiences in Romania's commie spy service wherein he observed Arabfart having gay sex w/ his body guards. They played a game of lion and hyena, allegedly.

The homosexuality of Arabs is legion. Whether it is an expediency due to the removal of women from their company, or a direct aspect of their intense misogyny, any traveler to the middle east remarks on it. If they could just come out of the closet, stop hating themselves for being bedouin buttbandits, and stop oppressing women, we'd have 10% of the problem we have today.

Further, Arabfart manifests homo characteristics you often see in fascists. Married to the cause. Never women around. Makes his people live in sh*t while he struts about in a shiny uniform.

My money is on aids. Hopefully he screwed most of his command and his pals in hamas etc.

183 Earl  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 3:30:44pm

#159 gill

I emailed a vicious, but eloquent, comment on Plett to the Beeb.

We in Canada are a scintilla more fortunate- that unctuous, Jew-hating Neil McDonald on the Ceeb was bitch-slapped down to some stupid non-ME job, and now we don't have to put up with his pali-sycophancy any longer. Shit wouldn't melt in that guy's mouth- just a hard-core, glib, smug Canadian Jew-hater.

Colon cancer would suit him just fine.

184 jlfintx  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 3:33:05pm

#174-Thanks zulubaby. Well, I am beat all and have to call it a day. Bush will win and win big, and maybe that last election was what we needed to get everyone to vote, and then the way on top of that. We will know where this country stands and I am optomistic and believe there is more good than evil in this country.

God Bless the USA, and God Bless President Bush, and God Bless all of the good friends on LGF!

Good night.

jlfintx

185 DCMC  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 3:35:28pm

If Arafat has AIDS they will blame it on the Mossad, just like they said Israel was spreading AIDS through candy.

DCMC

186 Earl  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 3:42:58pm

#185 DCMC

Now, don't be absurd. Just stop it.

You know perfectly well that one can be only 95% certain that it was the Jews...

/chanelling saudi nutter

187 gabe  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 3:44:19pm

She wasn't crying for Arafat as much as she was crying that her bread and butter was flying away.

188 HULUGU  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 3:50:43pm

#180 oceanfire--feuj instead of juif is "verlan"--the french equivalent of cockney rhyming slang--anyhow i have a laugh thinking that pauvre layla can't wear her hijab to high school any more--how feuj

189 whiterasta  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 3:51:30pm

..."In quieter moments since I have asked myself, why the sudden surge of emotion?.....

Because you have a secret wish to be infibulated?

Stupid ****.

190 Judith  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 3:53:35pm
191 cba  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 3:57:39pm

Earl (or any other Canuck lizards):
For some reason I think Barbara Plett is also on the CBC. Or am I comfusing her with Barbara Budd and Barbara Smith?

The name is very familiar.

192 Earl  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 3:58:50pm

Where's Bigel? I fully expected him to weigh in on this thread. Hope he's OK.

He wasn't banned, was he, Charles?

193 Judith  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 3:59:31pm

my link above also leaves open the possibility of a "virus".

194 cba  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 4:00:29pm

#182 minuteman:
ENOUGH WITH THE BLOODY HYENA ALREADY!

It was a horrible mental image the first time someone posted it, and for some reason it keeps getting brought up.

Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeez can we declare this a hyena-free zone? I'm sure lizards are allergic to hyenas.

Or something.

195 Earl  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 4:02:12pm

#191 cba

Barbara Budd took over as co-yapper on Barbara Frum's show, Cross-Country Check-up.

And will no doubt be replaced by Barbara Smith, co-hosting with Barbara Jones (Enough!- ed. )

196 applesweet  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 4:02:20pm

Israel should remember this reporter. The next time she wants to cover a story within Israel proper, tell her to cover it from arafat's ruined compound.

She is disgusting.

197 Jakester  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 4:03:12pm

God,
I really want to see that so called correspondent be targeted as a Palestinian terrorist. What a mindless little euro-twit!

198 Judith  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 4:06:44pm

Barbara Plett is a regular foreign correspondent for CBC as well. I googled her name and CBC and about 400 articles and radio reports came up. Apparently CBC radio is her main stage in Canada.

-spit-

199 Geepers  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 4:07:50pm

Wurm,

Can't call a terrorist a terrorist huh? Did you cry too?

200 cba  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 4:10:18pm

#195 Earl:
I think you mean As It Happens--but I love your prediction, LOL. IIRC, sometimes Barbara Smith sits in for Mary-Lou Findley, so it's Barbara and Barbara on those nights.

#198 Judith:
Ah, I knew her name sounded familiar! I think she's a Canuck moonlighting for the Beeb--I'd have noticed if she'd had a British accent.

At least, I think I would.

201 Earl  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 4:20:07pm

#200 cba

You're right but, in my defence, all these Ceeb radio shows are interchangeable:

"...fwap fwap fwap the illegal Israeli occupation...fwap fwap fwap Pierre Trudeau, deservedly nominated as the Greatest Canadian...fwap fwap fwap...the illegal Israeli wall...fwap fwap fwap... Pierre Elliott Trudeau, founder of modern Canada...fwap fwap fwap...)"

You know the story... screw those pesky Jews and hagiography for trudeau.

202 dcbatlle  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 4:26:38pm

In quieter moments since I have asked myself, why the sudden surge of emotion?

because for Liberal tools such as yourself, it's all about misplaced feelings and emotions, that's why.

203 Wurm  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 4:32:23pm

Geepers,

"Can't call a terrorist a terrorist huh? Did you cry too?"

I basically don't care one way or the other. However I feel it would be best if Arafat passed from this world into the next, peacefully in his sleep, and as soon as possible.

Rather that than him become a martyr to the cause.

I was pointing out that the BBC is a very UNBIASED news source with respect to world affairs, here was quoted one "commentary"

There are OTHER commentaries on Arafat on the BBC that are not quite as complimentary.

Also look at the reader comments the BBC are showing....

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

They are bending over backwards to show both sides.

Do not knock the BBC's coverage of world affairs, they are the best at just giving the "news" (with a few reservations)

Now if you ask me about their bias covering British political events that is a different issue....

(I read British press for American political news and I read American press for British political news.)

This is a post in defense of the integrity of the BBC.

It is not a post agreeing with an article a BBC correspondent filed.

204 zulubaby  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 4:35:09pm
205 transferthem  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 4:40:24pm

I too cried - when I learned that arafart the mass genocide murdering antisemitic pig was not writhing in agony as he plunged towards a deserved grisly death and hell. May he do so soon.

As for barbara plett, her tears confirm my fears - about her and the bbc.

206 gabe  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 4:41:38pm

#203 Wurm

I was pointing out that the BBC is a very UNBIASED news source with respect to world affairs

What's the weather like on your planet?

207 zulubaby  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 4:43:51pm
This is a post in defense of the integrity of the BBC.

By that statement I must assume that you have no idea what integrity is.

208 JohninLondon  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 4:45:04pm

If you live in a country and pay "tax" towards one of its institutions, you should have a sense of communal ownership.

STUFF THE BBC AND THE ARAB IT RODE IN ON.

209 JohninLondon  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 4:48:16pm

Wurm

You say the BBC has no bias ?

Do you really believe that ?

How young and naive can you get ?

Or - if you are not young - WTF have you ever seen or read ?

210 cba  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 4:50:14pm

#203 Wurm:
I'm a former Brit who used to listen to the World Service for the first few years after I left.

They're about as unbiased as Robert Fisk. Who, come to think of it, used to do broadcasts for them.

211 JohninLondon  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 4:50:51pm

The modern BBC has as much integrity as I have breasts. Period.

Every day, on every channel, in the UK or World Service, it sidesteps it Charter and pumps out its bias. Every hour, on the hour.

212 zulubaby  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 4:55:06pm

The BBC is now in South Africa and it's becoming increasingly difficult to neutralize the poison. The BBC is dangerous. How anyone can say that they're unbiased is beyond me.

213 JohninLondon  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 4:57:10pm

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr !!!!

BBC is red-rag-to-a-bull.

Their Chairman and CEO are forced to resign for a totally biassed news story on Iraq - and STILL they spend our licence fees on bias.


The BBC is like a fish. It does not even recognise its persistent bias, just like a fish doesn't know it is wet.

214 SoCalJustice  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 4:59:47pm

Just unbelievably sickening.

I'm almost surprised she was crying, rather than raising her hands in the air and chanting slogans.

Scary bee-yotch.

215 Curious  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 5:04:08pm

Any Brit bashers out there should check out this Telegraph piece about Bush.

216 Wurm  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 5:04:36pm

JohninLondon asked this question after my #203 post,

""You say the BBC has no bias ?

Do you really believe that ?

How young and naive can you get ?

Or - if you are not young - WTF have you ever seen or read ?""

Now JohninLondon , I am old enough to read. I said "the BBC is a very UNBIASED news source with respect to world affairs" and if you could be bothered to read the rest of my post it would become clear that I trust the BBC on domestic issues about as far as I could throw a (you fill that in) I said.... ""Now if you ask me about their bias covering British political events that is a different issue....""

Did you reat the other Arafat "news"... did you read the comments from readers the BBC posted?

This thread is an attack on the BBC.

Why?... because it published a viewpoint that LGF did not agree with!

But hell it published it, and the BBC let the readers form their own opinion.

You did.

That is a free press. (on issues that are not "domestic")

217 BPP  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 5:04:44pm

I've always wondered whether the BBC appears as biased to non-Americans as it does to (many) Americans.

Bias at the BBC in my estimation generally manifests itself in a pro-Arab, anti-Israel and often anti-American slant to news coverage. But I wonder whether its bias extends to other areas of the news. For instance, does it cover Europe, or Asia or business or sport in a way that is as compromised journalistically as its coverage of the Middle East and the US?

Any thoughts?

218 Wurm  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 5:08:25pm

OK I surrender!!! Everyone says the BBC is biased so I believe you......

Which way is the BBC biased, and please give examples, and links.....

I se no one mentioned ITV.....

219 canadianconservative  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 5:10:02pm

Earl,

During WWII, Pierre Eliott Trudeau used to ride through the streets of Montreal wearing a Swastika, according to what I;ve heard.

That socialist bastard destroyed and sissified canada.

If you want a snapshot of what a John Kerry regoime would look like, just look at Trudeau's reign of error.

Abortion, gay rights, gun control.... cavorting with the socialist dictators of the world (Nyerere, Ceaucescu, castro etc)

Selling Nuclear technology to Ceaucescu and others.

He was a rich boy who inherited all his wealth. Ever notice that all socialists seem to be wealthy?

He is said to have had an affair with..... Barbara Streisand.

He brought in the national energy policy whereupon the Feds tried to take control of alberta's oil.

and on it goes.

220 Mojo Jojo  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 5:11:36pm

Arafat has either AIDS or some VD, but the Frog doctors will never admit to it. I wouldn't be surprised if Arafat got it from some British boyfriend of his.

221 cba  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 5:12:44pm

#218 Wurm:
Last time I looked ITV didn't have a world service. Furthermore, the Beeb lives off its reputation as a reliable source of information, which makes its anti-Israel (for a start) slant all the more egregious.

I don't have any links and I'm not about to start searching for them, but I certainly heard enough crap (including Fisk) on the World Service that I stopped listening.

Now I let the CBC raise my blood pressure. The Canadian version has a lot in common with its colonial ancestor.

222 Paco from Sefarad  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 5:14:10pm
223 Wurm  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 5:15:32pm

BPP, do you just pick up on the "pro-Arab, anti-Israel and often anti-American slant to news coverage." and not see the whole picture?

Just for shits and giggles take a look at [Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

and tell us which articles are biased, biased how, and why.....

224 Wurm  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 5:20:39pm

LMAO, you fell for it!!!!!

The BBC is biased!

The BBC is Government controlled......

Government propoganda!!!!!!


So why the hell quote it??????


LMAO.

225 JohninLondon  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 5:20:52pm

BPP

The BBC slant is strongly pro-Europe, pro-EU.

The fact that this is out of step with about 70% of the Brits simply does not matter. THEY have their metropoliitan view, and we mere plebs who pay the criminally-enforced licence fee have to swallow it.

They are LLL on any issue you care to name. They deny bias - but recruit exclusively from the small-ads in al-Guardian.

226 Van Impe  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 5:24:09pm

Apparently Arafat isn't beloved by all of his people:

It will be a blessing if he dies. He has ruined all our chances, encouraged violence; and has not had the wisdom to provide peace for the Palestinians.
Farid Al Atrache, Palestinian territories

From the BBC's "Have Your Say about Palestinian Leadership"

227 JohninLondon  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 5:24:14pm

Wurm

You seem to find funny that a £3billion a year TV outfit funded by the public is biased ?

Funny ?

228 Exile  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 5:25:40pm

I too cried....

[Link: www.coxandforkum.com...]

....with laughter when I saw this.

229 Wurm  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 5:30:55pm

JohninLondon,

Oh now we get down to it!!! You are pissed at the licence fee!

Tell us, how much is it now to own a TV per year?

That is why you hate the BBC, you have to PAY!

Now ask an American how much tax they pay that goes to the FCC....

230 Melissa  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 5:33:01pm

I like Tim Blair's take on this twat:

Fair and Balanced BBC

To be honest, the coverage of Yasser Arafat's illness and departure from Palestine was a real grind. I churned out one report after the other, without any sense of drama.

I agree; the event needed more drama, which could have been supplied by the IDF.

--Tim Blair

Naturally, LGF has a cameo in his fisking.

And I agree with Wurm to the extent that I'm very glad the BBC biases are in the open. It shows us where to paint the bullseye. It is coming to that.

231 JohninLondon  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 5:36:09pm

Wurm

The compulsory licence fee adds insult to injury.

I remember the 1940s, 1950s, when the BBC was not biassed.

Simple as that.

Why did the Chairman and CEO of the BBC have to resign ???

LACK OF EDITORIAL CONTROL.

Or are you in denial about the resignations ?

232 Geepers  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 5:37:08pm

Wurm,

"Can't call a terrorist a terrorist huh?"

I basically don't care one way or the other.

Gotcha. You can't.

Or won't.

Which is it?

233 Wurm  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 5:37:53pm

JohninLondon, and the licence fee goes where?

Tell the American public what the £3billion is spent on....

Ask the Americans how much they spend on their "Emergency Broadcast System" per year.

Ask them about the funding for their FCC...

The TV licence fee pays for much more than the BBC programs, do not mislead our American allies.

234 Joseph  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 5:41:17pm

60 years ago, she would've been yelling, "Jews! Go back to Palestine!!!"

235 zulubaby  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 5:42:23pm
Why?... because it published a viewpoint that LGF did not agree with!

And I'm grateful for that. I wouldn't hang out with a bunch of people who wept tears over a dying mass-murdering psychopath. In my world people like that are locked up for life or given a needle in the arm. Don't be an idiot, wurm. Think a bit. There is only one way to treat a soppy piece like this and that is with utter disdain.

236 Wurm  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 5:42:27pm

LACK OF EDITORIAL CONTROL, AKA publishing something that was not true.

237 zulubaby  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 5:44:57pm

Joseph (#234)

60 years ago, she would've been yelling, "Jews! Go back to Palestine!!!"

A friend sent this to me:

European graffiti of the 1930s: "Jews -- Go to Palestine"

European graffiti of 2004: "Jews -- Get Out of Palestine"

238 JohninLondon  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 5:46:40pm

Wurm

The £3.5 billion licence fee - let's call it $6 billion a year - goes SOLELY on domestic UK TV and radio. The BBC World Service is funded separately by the FCO - also out of taxpayers' money.

And your point is ?

239 BPP  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 5:49:17pm

223 Wurm

I have to say I'm a bit perplexed at what you're driving at here. On the one hand you seem to doubt the BBC's bias and on the other hand you acknowledge it. So which is it?

For classic BBC bias, look at just about any story about an Israeli action and notice who they ask to comment on it. Chances are it will either be an Arab or else some left-leaning anti-Israel British or American academic. We're lucky if we get a statement from an Israeli government spokesman. But the chances of hearing from a serious pro-Israel commentator? Pretty minimal.

But bias is truly in the eye of the beholder. I find the BBC coverage of Europe harder to accuse of bias because I have very little emotion invested in the subject of the EU. But as JohninLondon says, this view is out of step with most Brits. But on Israel, the bias is so strong and so obvious that even someone like me, (who HATES it when conservatives here in the US scream media bias every two minutes when they don't like the news and then keep mum when they do) can get pretty infuriated.

240 Wurm  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 5:49:31pm

zulubaby, THANKS!!!!

Finally, someone with an overall sense of reality.

""There is only one way to treat a soppy piece like this and that is with utter disdain.""

and this soppy piece was brought to you by.........

And the public saw it and reacted......

Now, if you do not mind, I am through defending the BBC as on the whole they report unbiased news ( World news, as to domestic they are slightly to the left of left, but that is the "artistic" temprement of the editors showing through....)

INDYMEDIA is my main target......

241 zulubaby  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 5:50:03pm

Wurm, why don't you check out the links Paco from Sefarad posted in #222. You asked for examples and links and you got them. Go read.

242 JohninLondon  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 5:50:23pm

LACK OF EDITORIAL CONTROL at the BBC is defending to the bitter end, to the top level, week after week after week, a patently false story.

Which just happened to fit in with their corporate view on Iraq.

Now ain't that strange ?

At least CBS gave up after 2 weeks on their lies.

243 cba  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 5:51:35pm

I don't think there's a lot of point in "debating" Wurm. Anyone who insists that the Beeb is unbiased isn't going to be swayed by anything so trivial as facts.

244 zulubaby  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 5:51:45pm

Wurm, I don't understand your point. Are you agreeing or disagreeing that the BBC is biased?

245 JohninLondon  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 5:53:03pm

Wurm

If you think the BBC is not spleen-full of bias, you need a different moral compass.

246 SwampWoman  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 5:53:19pm
Yet when the helicopter carrying the frail old man rose above his ruined compound, I started to cry... without warning.

Well, maybe that was her subconscious warning her that she'd had an up close and personal encounter with a pedophile in the past and to be very very wary of this one.

My reaction to seein' ol' Arafat is more along the lines of projectile vomiting. That's one uuuuuugly mo fo.

247 Wurm  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 5:56:18pm

OK so the BBC is biased, QUIT READING IT!

Unless you wan't unbiased news in the areas where you know the BBC is unbiased.

That is my point.

Oh by the way that 300 billion or is it trillion pounds or dollars allowed me to watch live, on the net, the taking of the X prize.......

now I really must depart for tghe IMC network really needs a seorious unbiasing!

248 Geepers  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 6:03:59pm

BPP,

We may not agree on a lot things, even so, credit where credits due. I've never know you not to be honest in your opinions. Kudos for that.

249 zulubaby  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 6:08:19pm
OK so the BBC is biased, QUIT READING IT!

I don't read the BBC very often, I must say, but I'm grateful that there are organizations like CAMERA to monitor the BBC's lies and propaganda.

250 Wurm  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 6:12:13pm

Totally off topic.....

But no longer will your comments on NJ-IMC be hidden by the mindless sheep! (it now takes a mindless monitor, but still, progress is progress...)

[Link: newjersey.indymedia.org...]

NYC is next.....

251 zulubaby  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 6:18:41pm

The BBC's hatred for Israel

Those who wonder why Israel was chosen as the state most dangerous to world peace in a recent European poll need only look to the European media.

A recent BBC film Israel's Secret Weapons, devoted to exposing Israel as a prime international threat worse than Saddam Hussein, is a prime example of how the European media vilifies Israel. The film was made prior to the American invasion, as part of an effort to delegitimate American efforts by showing that US ally Israel is by far the greater offender, and if anyone should be bombed Israel should be first.

Israel's Secret Weapons was shown at the Jerusalem Cinematheque's British film week sponsored by the British Council.

This is not the first time, of course, that the BBC has taken on Israel in an effort to delegitimate it and, as in its previous efforts, it uses all possible means, including lies and distortions.

From the beginning of the al-Aksa intifada in 2000, the BBC's reports were routinely skewed in favor of Arafat's terrorist regime. The BBC regularly suggested that Israel was the prime instigator of "the cycle of violence." It accused Israel of killing far more Arab children than even exaggerated Palestinian Authority figures.

In November 2000 the BBC sank to the nadir of its pathological hatred for Israel, revealing the depth of its anti-Semitic bias. It opened a program about Palestinian children killed in the intifada by presenting as fact, complete with shots of skulls, the ancient anti-Semitic calumny of "Herod's massacre of the innocents."

Cutting straight from the skull-stuffed crypt (adult skulls, mind you) – which the BBC describes as the actual location where an ancient "massacre" of children occurred – to Manger Square, where a funeral was taking place of an Arab boy "shot through the head" (gangster style) by Israeli troops, the BBC brazenly drew a straight line connecting an alleged attempt to kill the child Christ to Israel's killing of Palestinian children.

Throughout the intifada, the BBC repeated – with no corroborating evidence – the worst Arab fabrications and calumnies. In its expositions of the background to the conflict, it always endorsed the Palestinian narrative, though it must be aware that it is historically false.

The many Arabs present on the BBC's talk shows can spread any calumny about Israel and they will never be challenged by BBC hosts. Nor will the BBC allow a proper rebuttal by Israelis. For "balance," the BBC carefully chooses pro-Arab Israelis or some fumbling official from our pitiful foreign ministry. Anyone who is capable of mounting an effective rebuttal to the BBC's distortions and lies are never be invited to speak.

BESIDES ITS news broadcasts, the BBC has been devoting several special programs to the task of delegitimizing Israel. A memorable hatchet job – also shown at the Cinematheque – was the Panorama program framing Prime Minister Ariel Sharon as the "real" killer in the Christian Lebanese militia massacre of innocent Palestinians at Sabra and Shatilla. The BBC's "case" was woven from a tissue of lies, distortions, significant omissions, allegations lacking any factual basis, and a sickening animus toward Sharon and Israel.

Read the rest.

252 Catttt  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 6:18:54pm

jlfintx:

Incredibly belated (but it is still Halloween) happy birthday DJ! :)

253 gill  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 6:20:14pm

#171 Beagle
and
#183 Earl


Thank you for writing to the BBC.

I did too.


Here's a little soundbite from the lovely Barabara:
(Listen towards the end)

254 insomniac  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 6:30:37pm

#181 Wurm

I say it is GREAT that the BBC publishes these reports. It shows readers and viewers both sides, and the individual can make up their own mind, as you all did.

The BBC is very much a pro-Palestinian/anti-Israel news organization.

I want to relate two incidents:

On June 1 2002, a Palestinian terrorist blew himself up at the entrance of the Dolphinarium disco in Tel Aviv, murdering more than 20 people, most of whom were teenagers out for some friday night fun.

A BBC World News presenter interviewed an Israeli spokesman and impudently questioned the spokesman as to why the children were out in the first place!!!!
No questions for the Palis as to why they deliberately murder children and then break out in celebration.

On Mar 27 2002 a Palestinian terrorist murdered almost 30 Jews celebrating the Passover at the Park Hotel in Netanya. Further attacks were carried out in the following days. Israel launched Operation Defensive Shield on Mar 29, to try to stop the unceasing terror attacks.

Security was tightened and the Israelis managed to stop the atacks, but then something strange and very disturbing happened.

On Apr 12 2002, the BBC's Jeremy Bowen reported on the situation in Israel. It was a report that came in two parts; an interview with an Israeli victim of a Palestinian terror attack, and as part of the same report, Jeremy Bowen was seen driving along a street in Jerusalem while his cameraman continued filming. He commented that the area near Mahane Yehuda market was virtually without security! At that time I thought it was a careless thing to say in light of Palestinian attempts to murder Jews enmasse in terror attacks. And wouldn't you know it........several hours later, a Palestinian terorist blows himself up at that very section of Jerusalem where the BBC corespondent indicated was bereft of security. Six people were murdered, thanks to the BBC.

Now! that's an example of the fair and balanced reporting by the BBC!!

Don't kill the messenger.

Fuck the BBC!!!!!

255 Wurm  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 6:43:28pm

insomniac,

I didn't know about any of those incidents.

You have convinced me, we REALLY should censor the main stream media, they are just helping the enemy.

Now, can I go back to attacking the real enemy please?

256 SangerM  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 7:09:53pm

I just read the last hour or two of conversation re: the BBC, which IMNSHO is so biased it leans like the pisa tower toward anything soft and gushy and anti-common sense..... well, let's just say it sucks to the left...

Anyway, at least one of the people in the thread sounds like s/he has multiple personalities. I won't say who, but it's the one who could be JFKerry....

First this, then that, then those, then these, then estos, then esas, then oy, then vay, and so on ad perplexituity...

What a twit.

257 Wurm  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 7:28:49pm

SangerM,

Yeah, I really got to agree with you. When the BBC publishes anything leftish and/or gushy it gets reported on Rightish and ungushy websites.

When the BBC publishes anything Rightist and ungushy it gets published on leftish and gushy websites.

Does that clear it up for you?

258 Rose  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 9:42:43pm

Until 9/11 I thought myself a person who could hate no one -tolerant little me did not care who lived next door as long as they were clean and polite, black, white,Jew, Muslim Hindu, Budhist Gay- no probs
then I thought I should try and understand Islam- well I understand now that they want t see me dead or Submit to their death cult- no way Jose/Hose NO WAY and BY THE WAY I HATE ALL THAT THEY REPRESENT.
SUPPORT ISRAEL
SUPPORT BUSH
and remember there are 50 million in Iraq and Afghanistan whose lives depend on George Bush PLEASE DON'T LET THEM DOWN
and 1.4 billion muslims who if you do not stare them down now, will stare down at you
VOTE IN THIS ELECTION AS IF YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT------------------IT DOES

259 jenbr  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 10:04:59pm

Inshalla, let Arafat eat cake!

Better yet, have him choke on it.....


from IMRA:
Senior Palestinian security officer: God willing Arafat will stay in France
[Link: www.imra.org.il...]

260 espresso  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 11:18:45pm

If anyone would like to tell this brainless a-hole why she was crying for a murdering psycopath you can probably reach her at

barbara.plett@bbc.co.uk

for future references most bbc emails are firstname.surname@bbc.co.uk

261 Pooh  Sun, Oct 31, 2004 11:48:46pm

For those who doubt that the BBC is both an evil and dangerous organisation, at least as far as its coverage of Israel is concerned, I would direct their attention to the various reports compiled by London solicitor, Trevor Asserson at BBC Watch:

[Link: www.bbcwatch.com...]

From Melanie Phillips's latest article in the Spectator:

"In the green room after the [BBC radio] show, I get embroiled in a discussion about Iraq. Someone addresses me as ‘Mrs Wolfowitz’ and pleasantly observes that I appear to have become even more ‘right wing’. I grind my teeth at this and say that, on the contrary, it is he who is the extremist. The reaction is comical. His mouth soundlessly opens and shuts. How can he possibly be an extremist? He has the world-view of the Guardian, Independent and the BBC, which is morally, intellectually and politically unchallengeable. Anyone who doesn’t agree with it is by definition beyond the pale. ‘But you’re really a neocon, aren’t you?’ he finally utters. Ah, the ultimate insult du jour. It’s a bit like being accused of being a Satanist. Come to think of it, even Satanists — for whom, we are happy to note, a warm welcome is waiting in the navy — would probably be regarded more kindly than the neocons. I briefly toy with telling my interlocutor that, yes, like the neocons, I too am a liberal who has been mugged by reality. But since he clearly believes that they are far to the Right of ordinary conservatives, I fear that this subtlety has as much chance of puncturing his prejudice as the proverbial snowball in hell.

The neocons, of course, are the prime villains in the ludicrous conspiracy theory now being peddled in all seriousness throughout mainstream culture. BBC2 is running a three-part series, The Power of Nightmares, which tells us that the threat of global terror is a myth concocted by the neocons in order to enact their sinister, warmongering fantasies and rule the world. Not only that, but the neocons have the same philosophy as the radical Islamists they are fighting! Such a paranoid fantasy would once have been dismissed as the ravings of the kind of person who writes in green ink and capital letters. Now, though, the theory is espoused across the establishment, from armchair generals to both conservative and left-wing newspaper columnists. I am alarmed that rational, factual debate no longer seems possible against this tide of unreason, prejudice and hatred. But no doubt that’s because I’m a war-crazed, neocon extremist.

[Link: www.melaniephillips.com...]

262 Pooh  Mon, Nov 1, 2004 12:10:28am

#247 Wurm

"OK so the BBC is biased, QUIT READING IT!"

Are you suggesting that people of good faith should not battle against evil in the world in order to protect the innocent? Are you suggesting that it was right that the world remained more or less silent as Hitler and Goebbels and Streicher poured out their endless streams of filth?

The British people are funding an organisation to the tune of billions of pounds each year that is at the forefront of the European campaign to deligitimise Israel and to a large extent America. This campaign has also resulted in a massive increase in anti-Semitism and anti-Americanism in Europe and around the world, and has meant that many Jews, especially in the UK, now feel totally alienated from their various homelands.

So we will continue to speak out against the manifest evil that is the BBC, and we will continue to ignore the ridiculous bleatings of little Englanders like yourself who blindly defend the bigotry and vileness of Perfidious Albion, despite the massive weight of evidence against them. Like the many millions of Europeans who turned their backs and held their noses as the Jews of Europe were herded into gas chambers, you do not see the evil because you choose not to see it.

263 Pooh  Mon, Nov 1, 2004 1:01:24am

#261 Pooh

Correction

I wrote:

"In the green room after the [BBC radio] show, I get embroiled in a discussion about Iraq."

In fact, Melanie Phillips was appearing on Question Time, which is put out by BBC One, a TV channel.

264 The Limey  Mon, Nov 1, 2004 2:23:29am

Biased BBC also keeps an eye on these Quislings.

Just make sure y'all help deliver a Bush victory tomorrow, so we can have the last laugh.

265 Hhar  Mon, Nov 1, 2004 3:18:03am
In quieter moments since I have asked myself, why the sudden surge of emotion?

Seems obvious; you either don't have enough troubles of your own, so that you are obsessed with those of a stranger, or you are so messed up that you will do anything to avoid your own problems, or you are one of those fools whose only legitimate source of meaning is what everyone else tells you is important.

I understand that her question is rhetorical, but the only good answers to such a question are not very flattering to her.

266 Earl  Mon, Nov 1, 2004 3:21:20am

#219 CC

I'm born and raised in Alberta. 'Nuff said?

267 canadianconservative  Mon, Nov 1, 2004 3:59:21am

Earl, I was born and raised in the socialist cesspool that spawned pierre Eliott trudeau. I live in western Montreal, where that socialist POS is worshipped like a deity.....

These people will blindly vote Liberal no matter what... Even during the Mulroney sweep, many western Montreal ridings remained Liberal.

Trudeau replaced Diefenbaker's Bill of Rights with the nefarious Cahrter of rights, which has virtually ensured the courts can enforce ant "progressive" social engineering measure the Liberals want.

This type of thing is what we can expect from a kerry regime.

If Kerry gets in, it will demonstrate that the US is well on its way to becoming sissified. Once he's in, rest assured that Massachusetts/Canadian style indoctrination in the schools will intensify, and the sissification process will continue.

Furthermore, I expect kerry to go over and shake hands witrh Castro... He will also move toward rapprochement with the EU. You watch, he'll repeat the Clinton line that the day of the nation state is fast disappearing... It's time we joined hands with our European friends... Look for a currency union with the EU, and the subsequent loss of sovereignty that will entail.

This sissification process will simply serve the end of frtilizing the ground for an Islamofascist takeover.

Trudeau turned Canada toward Europe, Kerry will do the same to the USA.

Did i mention he will try to disarm the country? Guess which state has the toughest gun laws?

268 BPP  Mon, Nov 1, 2004 4:28:06am

267 canadianconservative

If you think the US would ever do any of the things you are so afraid of, you are seriously hallucinating. The Democratic party in the US in NOTHING like the Liberals in Canada. I used to live in Canada so I know of where I speak. C'mon, currency union with the EU?

Waaaaaay over the top, dude. Time to change your medicine to something that will mellow you out.

269 TalkinKamel  Mon, Nov 1, 2004 5:04:46am

I NOMINATE BABS FOR IDIOTARIAN OF THE YEAR!

jlfintx:

Sorry to get to this so late---I had to get Baby Kamel's Halloween costume ready, and man the door for trick-or-treaters, while his Daddy took him out ghosting around!

But, happy Birthday, DJ! (And many more of 'em!)

A Kamel Birthday-Dance for DJ:

^~&~&~&~&~&~&~&@@@ :>) _!_!_!_!_!_!_!_@@@!

270 Dan Dare  Mon, Nov 1, 2004 5:24:42am
Yet when the helicopter carrying the frail old man rose above his ruined compound, I started to cry... without warning.
In quieter moments since I have asked myself, why the sudden surge of emotion?

Ah! Powerful the dark side is.
Control you it can.
Fight it you must.

271 Geepers  Mon, Nov 1, 2004 5:35:11am

From HonestReporting:

Plett's revelation of a emotional bond with Yassir Arafat is a clear acknowledgement of her partisan stand in the conflict. It's an outburst that reminds one of Fayad Abu Shamala, the BBC correspondent in Gaza, who announced at a Hamas rally in May 2001: 'Journalists and media organizations [are] waging the campaign shoulder-to-shoulder together with the Palestinian people.'

What does it say about BBC that it employs news reporters who are emotionally or ideologically attached to one side of the conflict?

Bias, what bias?

272 TalkinKamel  Mon, Nov 1, 2004 6:24:40am

You have to understand that when people like Bubbles Plett get all weepy over a mass murderer like Arafat, they're acting out of something more akin to emotional derangement, than rational support for a politcal cause. Babs, for whatever reason: her childhood, her emotional make-up, an inborn lack of intelligence, or inability to feel real sympathy for real victims, finds a deep emotional satisfaction in her allegiance to Arafat. Since it's not rational, I doubt she can ever be argued out of it. To her, Arafat is the shining white knight (you should only pardon the expression) of the PLO. If you say anything else---well, you're just a hate-filled Zionist/Neocon!

In another era, she'd have been the crazy maiden aunt who drank laudanum, or who ran away with to Italy with a long-haired poet; a spiritualist, or a Bertrand Russell groupie.

In this era, unfortunately, she's considered a journalist.

273 bronteboy  Mon, Nov 1, 2004 9:06:32am

SangerM has it down cold:

Barbara Plett cried for Arafat for no other reason than she is as much a hostage to her own weak and corrupted belief system

and #272 Talking Camel too:

they're acting out of something more akin to emotional derangement, than rational support for a politcal cause. Babs, for whatever reason: her childhood, her emotional make-up, an inborn lack of intelligence, or inability to feel real sympathy for real victims, finds a deep emotional satisfaction in her allegiance to Arafat. Since it's not rational, I doubt she can ever be argued out of it.

This is the key to most Western Palestinianists: the championing of the Palestinian cause is a form of romantic escape from reality. In truth they do not regard the so-called Palestinians as human beings like themselves but as some form of exotic wildlife. The only solution would be to drop Barbara Plett, without any ID, in some remote part of Lebanon or Syria. Then she will learn that she is dealing with human beings but ones with a very different mindset to her Western one. The experience with the realityof Arab-muslim culture might cause her to retcast her disconnected deluded mindset

274 TalkinKamel  Mon, Nov 1, 2004 10:28:37am

#72 bronteboy:

Yup! You're right! The idealization of the Palestinians is a case of romantic escapism---and, I've gotta tell you, as time goes on, I'm getting more and more tired of fantasy!

(Except the good kind, like Lord of the Rings!)

I mean, if you look at Arafat the man himself, not Arafat, Champeeen of the Palestinians peoples---what is he? An ugly little pimple of a man who urges children---CHILDREN---to blow themselves up for his noble cause! A murderer of countless innocents, a purported pedophile who allegedly plays sick sex games with his bodyguards and has ripped off his own people, embezzling aid money sent to him. . . and yet, even now, after all this, he's still a hero to the Left!

Fellow Lizardoid Dr. Sanity might be able to explain it; I sure can't!

I will say this; if all you L3 Moonbats out there (and you know who you are!) would spend as much time actually writing, or painting real pictures, or starting up your own business, or actually creating something, instead of pouring all your energies into supporting slobs like Arafat, the world would be a much nicer, and much safer place!

275 Joseph  Mon, Nov 1, 2004 3:32:17pm

zulubaby (237):

I find that kind of remark very effective as they usually slink away back under their rock.

276 MasterChief_D  Mon, Nov 1, 2004 7:46:26pm

I am so angry I can barely type this. Arafat is an ArchTerrorsit and a Criminal, his organizations has "given" the world airline hijacking and suicide bomers. When little childeren were murdered along with their mother a couple of months ago in a car ambush by one of his thugs he praised the butchery and called it AN HEROIC ACT.
The Palestinian people are damned, utterly damned as long as that filth and his ilk run their government.
These moronic eurotrash elitists are digging their own graves and dont even know it


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