protected from what?

Michael Moore, hehe.

The MSM holding this back is nothing less than allegiance with the enemy.

Protected like Poland from the Nazis I'll bet!

Thank you, Charles! Man, that was fast service.

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What a showing of solidarity we could send to the world if we all just stood up in defiance and elected Osama's arch-enemy, George W. Bush, to continue his presidency.

W by a landslide!

I am proud to live in a red state.

Apparently, our problem is that we are a bullying country. At least, according to one of our presidential candidates yesterday. That is probably all that bin laden meant as well.

Kerry said the world was "watching and waiting" for the United States to once again be "a country that lifts people up, not bullies. A country that understands how we lead by its moral strength and by its reasoning, not by ideological rigidity and by misleading."

Bush, Kerry Hunt Votes

It was Al-Jezeera that held back the full tape, not the US media, which didn't have access to it.

Al-Jazeera is trying to influence the election.

ALL news "reporting" is biased. Period.

Tomorrow's the day- who else here is excited?

And here is a link to a partial translation by Mermi.

OT:

Can anyone tell me the difference here?:

Journalist Arrested After Photographing Voting Lines
[[Link: www.local6.com...]

Moore To Have Cameras At Polling Places In Florida, Ohio
[[Link: www.local6.com...]

Would that Moore runs afoul of the same police.

Meanwhile, if it's not breaking any rules, am I right in thinking that we might all be wise to take camcorders, cameras, tape recorders, etc. to the polls with us tomorrow, ready to do our own recording of any transgressions?www.local6.com...] target="_blank">

explicitly saying that US states voting against Bush will be protected.

I guess that means we can relax here in Washington, DC, right? (Although I guess technically we're not a "US state". Drat.)

Okay, possibly my favorite part is this:

So the war went ahead, the death toll rose, the American economy bled, and Bush became embroiled in the swamps of Iraq that threaten his future. He fits the saying, "Like the naughty she-goat who used her hoof to dig up a knife from under the earth"

Er, right. Just how much experience do you suppose OBL has with "naughty she-goats"? I'm guessing "plenty".

My transcript page and bin Laden-Kerry quote comparison page are now so out of date they're useless. Oh well. No time to update the quote-comparisons until it's too late, election-wise.

Damn you Al-Jazeera!

While reading this whole transcript I couldn't help but to think his goal is no longer to scare us but to divide us. He knows how the left thinks and it struck me that all the Palestinian loving liberals in Europe and the US will eat this crap up. He's personalizing his cause to the left and the only question is will he soon be seen as royalty and a man whos actions are "for the greater good" such as Arafat?

I think I'd rather have Bin Laden talking about rivers of blood instead of "look at poor little me" and "it's Bush's & Halliburtons fault. The suckers on the left will buy it quicker than they bought missiles striking the Pentagon.

Threatening the states where people pack heat -- not smart you shithead.

Er, right. Just how much experience do you suppose OBL has with "naughty she-goats"? I'm guessing "plenty".

He still has a subscription to a magazine by that name forwarded to him from Tora Bora.

Take your pick of OBL as he sees himself:

Saruman with a turban or an elderly version of General Zod from Superman II.

/now back to reality

In God we Trust...now more than ever.

Definitely the rantings of a syphallitic. Can you catch syphillis from goats?

I am proud to live in a red state.

I have to wonder, did that change? My mom used to be very big in the Texas Democratic party (no to worry, we've awoken), and I seem to remember that the Democrats were the reds. Back during the 2000 election, I had a friend that thought the same. He pointed out that red tends to have negative connotations. Probably silly to talk about some kind of conspiracy, though. Probably. Anyway, I've just been wondering about that for a while.

I'm only 25, so it's not like I have a detailed memory of this. After all, 2000 was the first time I voted in a national election.

So lets see if I have this correct. A vote for Kery ensures that UBL will not attack? What could possibly be going on to cause this murder to support Kerry?

I bet Kerry actually thinks this is a good thing to have the support of the enemy. Perhaps we can get Kerry to go over to sit down with UBL and see what his demands are. He has sat with the enemy before, what is to stop him from doing it again.

It sickens me to think that Kerry actually is even being consdered as a candidate for President. I watched the video Stolen Honor and it only enforced my disgust for this creep.

Veterans unite!! Vote Bush. Of course I guess I am only speaking to the choir.

Stocked up on food and water. Brought ammo back up to 2YK level. Will fill the last gas tank tonight!

Like the good scout books says: "Be Prepared!"

Standing by for "high winds and heavy seas!" but hoping for "Dancing in the Streets!"

Control the media, control the mind!

Look for this to be passed-over by our MSM pals. They have performed their duty for their socialist "dream state" quite well. Perhaps they will get their wish and something horrendous will happen in Iraq tonight to ensure the election of their fabulous mediocrity.

I appeal to ALL OF YOU -- DO NOT BUY PAPERS THAT SPIN THE NEWS. THAT MEANS GET RID OF YOUR NEW YORK TIMES SUBSCRIPTIONS. You can still get it for free online if you are so inclined. Until we make a stand and stop buying that paper, they will continue to think they are above the reader. After all, when the Times sets out to produce a slop-filled story, they assume the reader will gobble it up like a hungry pig without question. How manipulated do you have to be before you take a stand?

I live in TX, so I guess I'm done for...

Any new evaluations re: what he wants (I mean besides the obvious Dar al Islam)? Is he back to offering arrogant deals, and not asking for a hudna, as previously suggested?

zombie, you've been all over this. Many thanks to you and Charles.

It is obvious that bin Laden has a new speech writer. Who would have thought that Mike Al-Moor could have sunk so low?

Those in the media who know these things and hide them, and moreover who go along with them, are commiting state treason. The irony is they have the most to gain from living in a free society.

Much as the intellectual left tends to be the first killed in leftist dictatorships, but always go along with them.

So lets see if I have this correct. A vote for Kery ensures that UBL will not attack? What could possibly be going on to cause this murder to support Kerry?

No. It means that the "Blue" states will be the get hit 'third' -- after the "Red" states, and after the "Blue" states that were either (a) hit on Sept. 11, or (b) the likely targets of the Millenium plot.

I get it! If you hang a used Kerry Edwards campaign sign over the front door of your house, they won't park a car full of explosives in your driveway, and if you wear a Kerry_Edwards button, then the nails and ball bearings from the suicide bomber in the middle of the mall, movie theater, or place of business you are in when he/she explodes will magically go around you, knowing you were one who "heeded the warning."

You know, there are some people who are so stupid that they won't figure out that anthrax, Sarin, ball bearings, alpha, beta and gamma radiation don't have a clue who voted for who when they are set loose....but, "he" said we'd be protected!

I just have to stay away from the T.V. for the next 24 hours or so, and everything will be o.k.

I think the Bin-Ladin tape was extremely important - it shows the ability, or really the lack of any ability to mount any kind of response. They're decimated and on the run and if "W" is re-elected they'll be finished. Any wonder why he's cheering for Kerry.

OT - but instrumentally important - read this about the kid who murdered three innocents in Israel today:

The suicide bomber was identified as Amar Alfar, 16, from Askar refugee camp in the West Bank city of Nablus. Samira Abdullah, 45, Alfar's mother, said the people who had sent her son to Tel Aviv were wrong to exploit someone too young to understand the implications of his act. "It's immoral to send someone so young," she said. "They should have sent an adult who understands the meaning of his deeds."

So, it's immoral to send a young kid, but not immoral to murder innocents. These Paleonazis and their death cult must be eliminated.

And Allah is our Guardian and Helper, while you have no Guardian or Helper. All Peace be Upon he who follows the Guidance.

He's certainly right about al-Guardian.

#14 ocassional reader

It always strikes me as funny when I hear that word "naughty". Something strange is always about to happen. To use it in a sentence with a goat, well....this guy needs to get out of the cave more often.

Hey peoples, Do you think CBS will run with this?

And better in a Red State, than dead and a Red lying in State.

#24 myoclonic jerk

Don't subscribe to the NYT; but I do (did) subscribe to the Newark Star Ledger, New Jersey's biggest newspaper.

They endorsed Kerry yesterday, I cancelled my subscription today. They asked me why .... I told them. They didn't appreciate my candor; or the fact that I don't value their opinion.

Some juicy whoppers from bin Laden's transcript:

This means the oppressing and embargoing to death of millions as Bush Sr. did in Iraq in the greatest mass slaughter of children mankind has ever known

The UN sanctions against Iraq in the '90s was "the greatest mass slaughter of children mankind has ever known"?? Wow, learn something every day.

And you can read this, if you wish, in my interview with Scott in Time Magazine in 1996, or with Peter Arnett on CNN in 1997...as well as my interviews with Robert Fisk.

Wow, mustn't Peter and Fiskie feel proud to be mentioned by The Man Himself?

something of which anyone who looks at the size of the contracts acquired by the shady Bush administration-linked mega-corporations, like Halliburton

He said the "H" word! Alright!

OT: Remember the election in Australia, typical headline:

Close race even the bookies can't tip

Howard won convincingly, and Bush will win yours.

Key U.S. Ally on Iraq Wins 4th Term in Australia

Prime Minister John Howard, one of the staunchest U.S. allies in the war in Iraq, defied predictions about a close race and won a convincing victory for a historic fourth term on Saturday despite widespread public disagreement in Australia with Howard's position on the war.

Fuck Bin Laden. Let him eat shit and die.

While Bush harps about protecting Americans, his own state, Texas, cannot find the funds to hunt down and prosecute child abusers.

[Link: www.chron.com...]

I saw post on this site where some ignorant bitched about a child abuse story in Egypt--does he even know how many children are abused in the US alone each year?

My aunt is a caseworker supervisor at Ohio Jobs and family services and she has horror stories that pale in comparison to anything we read about from the Middle East.

Islamic terrorist Bin Laden, this week:

"In addition, Bush sanctioned the installing of sons as state governors, and didn't forget to import expertise in election fraud from the region's presidents to Florida to be made use of in moments of difficulty."

Senator Bob Kerrey (Democrat), Oct 31st, 2004:

BOB KERREY: No, you love Florida because the governor happened to be the candidate, the Republican candidate's brother and the secretary of state was...

BUSH-CHENEY CAMPAIGN CHAIRMAN MARC RACICOT: You know that is so creepy. That's absolutely creepy to make those kinds of suggestions to the American people.

[Link: transcripts.cnn.com...]

Who is "mysterious" Michael Whouley, and why you should care now and in the future.

Kerry's dramatic victory in the state's Democratic primary set him on course to seal the party's presidential nomination. Deciding to divert resources from a flagging effort in New Hampshire and into Iowa worked for Kerry, in part because of a strong get-out-the-vote effort organized by Michael Whouley, a Boston political operative, and John Norris, a former chief of staff to Governor Tom Vilsack of Iowa. Whouley is now handling turnout efforts for the Democratic National Committee, while Norris, Kerry's national field director, is in Iowa overseeing preparations in his home state

He Caused the "Long count election 2000"

A rare Picture of Michael Whouley with "Sweaty" Al in 2000.

[Link: toughenough.org...]

#14 occasional reader

love the goat thread by the way. OBL's momma(s) used to get all 50 children together and enthrall them with tales of knives and goats and bombs and naughty burka-tailoring temptresses with exposed chinhairs etc.

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See Walid Phares article "Al Qaida's Plans for an American Chaos"

Walid Phares.com

He wrote this before the tape was released

What the Bin Laden, al Thawahiri, and Zarqawi of this world wants to see, is a delayed American offensive. They want two to three years to rebuild. In their analysis, a defeat of Bush (not necessarily a victory of Kerry) would be psychologically powerful enough to boost the morale of their troops, cleanse Washington from the architects of the anti-Jihad war, and give them this precious strategic asset: Time. Infidels are infidels though, and the Jihadists know that any Administration replacing the incumbent one will eventually engage them in the future. That, they know. But what they wish is a transition, a change of commanders.

I saw that saucy, naughty little goat. You pull her forelock and she'll follow you anywhere.

Who sang that song "You give perverts a bad name?" Was that Jon Bon Jovi?

And another:

And Bush's hands are stained with the blood of all those killed from both sides, all for the sake of oil

Wow, I've spoken to 7 people just in the last couple days who have basically said the same thing, word for word.

I'm beginning to think the "bin Laden" on this tape is actually an Indymedia trust-fund kid in a fake beard reading a printout of a Democratic Underground thread.

reed_b,

Hey reed, you lying sack of shit, tell us how you handle your overseas payroll. Do you use international funds transfers or do you write checks against an Indian account in rupees?

Bin Laden sickens me...

The terrorists are clearly on the run and want a Kerry Admin. to make their lives easier...

It doesn't surprise me that the MSM won't touch this.

Is UBL using LLL's talking points or vice versa? Either way, I'm getting sick to my stomach.

Reed_b

Pull you head out of your ass........now blame Bush for child abuse??

As a police officer I have "rescued" dozens of kids from abusive homes, only to have the same scumbag "caseworkers' ala your aunt.....only stick them back into the family.....

Caseworkers and CPS concentrate more on "keeping the family together", in spite of obvious dangers to the kids.......that, and caseworkers, make me sick...

I've been there, seen it, so unlike you, I know what the hell Im talking about..........

It can't be any clearer:

Osama bin Laden is a Democrat.

The Democrat Party is in league with al-Qaeda.

#39 William 
Excellent quote comparison! I wish I had the time to add that to my list, along with so many other great ones I know are out there.

#38 reed_b

"Lord, grant me the serenity to ignore the trolls ...."

All I could think of while reading that was the "brain on drugs" commercial. Is Michael Moore his speech writer?

In his praise for allah for their "victory" over Russia in Afghanistan, someone should tell him "allah" is spelled "CIA". Their rusty old broken down bolt actions didn't stand a chance against Russia until shored up by up to $1B per year in weaponry courtesy of USA via CIA and Pakistan. I read somewhere that because of "allah's" help in that victory, he knew he could defeat the Great Satan. Wonder if he's figured out "allah" (sp) switched sides.

I'm not going to read the Bin Laden transcript for two reasons:

1. Bin Laden can kiss my ass.

2. Al-Jazerra can kiss my ass.

The World Media, especially our own, will tell us how we must elect John Kerry,

then they will make fun of us for doing so.

Holy crap has this guy become Al-Kazcinski? He sounds like the dang unibomber dude. Sheesh.

So he is basically calling for a truce BUT we have still not learned our lessons of the past and were supposed to go get his American mouth piece Fisk? and have him explain it to us slowly?

We'll let me see, OBL wants us to back down so he and his kind can spread throughout the ME and Europe and Asia.

He keeps making the argument about money and truth where he is trying to drive a wedge like he has learned from the likes of MM and the appeasing/reporting(word is inter-changeable) of the MSM that through dialogue we can make everything be happy/happy joy/joy?

We'll I guess whoever his speech writer is they must have went too a LLL school.

#33 scoreboard 44:

It always strikes me as funny when I hear that word "naughty". Something strange is always about to happen.

Much the same is true of the adjective "Swedish". Add it to virtually any noun, and it makes it sound dirtier. Consider:

He fits the saying, "Like the naughty Swedish she-goat who used her hoof to dig up a knife from under the earth"

"Like the naughty she-goat who used her hoof to dig up a knife from under the earth"

Huh? What the f*ck?

Your security is in your own hands. And every state that doesn't play with our security has automatically guaranteed its own security.

so we'll be watching the election results - all the red states will suffer car bombings, the blue states may continue to exist as long as you pay your "security taxes"!!

Perhaps Kerry will raise taxes to account for the Al-Queda shakedown. The red states will be SOL.

Welcome to Left Wing America.

#21

It used to be that 'blue' was the incumbent while 'red' was the challenger.

They seemed to have switched it recently, not sure if this election or last or before that. Republicans would have been red in 2000 and 1996 by that rule.

I've got a response for OBL, and it'sa quote from, well, none other than OBL:

"Does the crocodile understand a conversation that doesn't include a weapon?"

Thanks for the thought-provoking advice, Osama. We Americans will bear it in mind whenever we deal with Middle Eastern crocs like you.

Can you say "I gots ta know!"?

Listening at every hourly break on the radio Kerry appealing to the voters in Florida :

"THE WORLD IS WATCHING"

They may be watching but I am shaking in my shoes.
Oh please please please please...................

But I thought Karl Rove planted this?????

When I saw of the latest OBL tape it immediately struck me that the whole thing had been carefully tailored to appeal to the chin-stroker mindset.
For some reason I'm also reminded of a cartoon that did the rounds during the mid 1980s.
The cartoon showed a post-apocayptic cityscape with one pristine house in the middle of it all. In the yard stood a smug looking hippie couple holding a 'Nuclear Free Zone' sign.

So that the states that go for sKerry will become the new Sudetenland?

59 Lykos,

It must be 'cause coloring Democrats red would be too...hmmm, what's the word I'm looking for...Democrats = Red...oh, yeah...

Coloring Democrats Red is too accurate.

Bush Impeached…By the World

(2004-11-01) -- New York -- A recent development in the United Nations has placed the validity of the US election in doubt. At a meeting that was not previously announced, members of the world body unanimously (with Holland abstaining) voted to impeach President George W. Bush under articles contained in the United States Constitution. Secretary General Kofi Annan stated “The international community has assumed authority over the United States because the country has lost moral authority to manage its own affairs. Therefore it was incumbent upon the UN to restore credibility to the United States by removing the war criminal Bush.”

When told of the decision made by the UN, John Kerry was guardedly optimistic and in a surprise revelation disclosed that Joe Lockhart was actually Usama bin Laden in disguise. Lockhart/bin Laden assumed the role of campaign spokesman for Kerry and immediately began answering questions as Kerry left for campaign rallies in Berlin and Paris.

Blue helmeted soldiers were dispatched by Annan to Washington D.C. to place the President of the United States in custody but were unable to reach the nation’s capital because “the toll booths would not accept foreign coins.” Disheartened and confused by their inability to get to Washington, the soldiers surrendered to Maryland toll collectors.

Karl Rove responded to the developments by eating yet another child and laughing maniacally.

Posted 2:32 PM

I want to live in a red state.

#61 wun wabbit wun

I don't know about the "world", but OBL is watching. Think he'll be watching CNN tomorrow night?

the most amazing thing to me is that as I read these insane ramblings - I can't help but think that I've heard a lot of this before.

Oh yes I have...

From John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, Michael Moore, Al Franken, etc....

Ot but I just thought of something.
I hope there a constitutional expert on board to answer this.

Let's assume some givens:
Kerry wins.
Afterwards, hard evidence is presented that he commited treason/sedition/provided aid & comfort to the enemy.
He received a less than honorable discharge.
He concealed the facts with the connivance of other highly placed individuals.

Somewhere on another thread, somebody posted some disqualifications for holding the office of POTUS, including the above.

Okay, so Kerry, it now turns out, has become POTUS while having been ineligible to run, before the fact.

Here's my question:
Now What!
Is the election null & void?
Would he be impeached?
Who would fill the position?
Bush? Edwards? Chosen by Congress?

My stomach hurts.

explicitly saying that US states voting against Bush will be protected.

Damn that pisses me off. Like Americans are a bunch of Spanish or French cowards.

Worried about W's chances tomorrow. But - if the worst happens and W does not win - he still has three months to hunt down Bin Laden. I say if W loses he ought to order smartbombs dropped on very Al Queda - I mean Al Jazerra - T.V. station. And take out Syria and Iran.

Oh yes - and after reading this - how can anyone even THINK of voting for John Kerry???

Who at the DNC faxed UBL their talking points?

Oh, and Usama? What about when Saddam was killing little Kuwaiti babies? Did you attack him for that slaughter? He's a hypocrit just like all the other LLLers I know!

[Link: www.memri.org...]

Let's take a poll...

Does everybody on here believe this story about how he meant separate states were going to be targeted, because it sounds like BS to me. I mean the reason they hit NY and DC before were because they could get the maximum exposure and kill the maximum number of people.

Al-Quaeda barely has the resources to attack places in their own region anymore, let alone attack 30 or 40 small-population states in the US at once. And he's smart enough to realize we don't have separate state armies or anything, that we all are under one federal military force. I think he knows that well.

I call Bullshit on MEMRI, and not just because I live in Kentucky.

It feels like UBL is working with the great Shakedown artist Jesse Jackson.

Flimsy brown-paper backdrop....$2

Used VHS Camcorder bought on e-bay...$30

A day at the hair stylist...$75

Sounding nuttier than a fruit cake on TVs around the world....PRICELESS!

#61

Is this one of sKerry's "gobal tests"

#77 dvaprez

I find your lack of sensitivity refreshing and hilarious.

#55 Bill in AZ

All I could think of while reading that was the "brain on drugs" commercial. Is Michael Moore his speech writer?

The resemblance is uncanny, no? As it is between OBL and the Dem rhetoric we've been hearing for months--"stolen election," "Halliburton," ad nauseum. I wonder how much of the MSM will take notice of this. Sure, like they promptly noticed the Swifties and Rathergate.

Much the same is true of the adjective "Swedish". Add it to virtually any noun, and it makes it sound dirtier. Consider:

And, here I thought that it made it sound funnier... like "the Swedish Chef", "Swedish Soul Food [lutefisk, for the uninitiated]...".

Well, soon it will be time for someone to go walking around the house with a crown of lit candles in her hair serving breakfast -- you know those dirty Swedes.

Hmmm AL-AP does a pre-emptive first strike on this full transcript:

[Link: ap.tbo.com...]

#75 bekenwhite:

I'd gently suggest that you're confusing the issues of i) what OBL claims he wants to do and ii) what he's actually capable of doing.

reed_b

Worse than this?

The Psychoanalytic Roots of Islamic Terrorism

...Kobrin, and ...Schweitzer, describe barbarous family and clan dynamics in which children, both boys and girls, are routinely orally and anally raped by male relatives; infant males are sometimes sadistically over-stimulated by being masturbated; boys between the ages of 7-12 are publicly and traumatically circumcised; many girls are clitoridectomized; and women are seen as the source of all shame and dishonor and treated accordingly: very, very badly."

79 Mormon Doc

It's appreciated!

Amusing to see "conservatives" railing against the damn "liberals".

America profits off the libs--from entertainment to literature to technology...America is respected and admired for the libs, not for the backward conservatives. Dave Matthews is a liberal. Chris Rock is a liberal. So is Steve Jobs, Leno, Conan, Jon Stewart, and Letterman.

International tourists flock to liberal cities--NY, LA, Washington DC, Miami, San Francisco, Vegas, etc--not Louiseville, KY.

So the next time you feel the need to mouth off against liberals...don't.

Wow OBL covered every single one of Kerry and the dumbocrat's talking points.

Mighty coincidental,don't you think?

#17 fat.elvis
"Threatening the states where people pack heat -- not smart you shithead."

No, not at all smart. And bad for the Leftys in the blue states, too. If it comes down to cammies, spam & soot covered sights on deer rifles, the invaders will be pushed out from the heartland & into the surf THROUGH the blue states on both coasts. I fear some unintended collateral housecleaning might occur.

If only Americans weren't inclined to being so criminally complacent, nobody would even be thinking this way.

Shit! This ain't how it's s'posed to be.

#38 reed_b

And just when did you find out in civics class that the President of the United States is the one who actually goes door to door collecting taxes in each state and then goes to the social workers offices and hands out the money?

You are another brilliant student turned out be the NEA and their whining lot, who object to being told they aren't doing the right thing. Go and find an adult education class on how the local, state and federal govenrmental agencies work, then READ THE CONSTITUTION! States rights is a basic premise of our country.

Next, tell your aunt to get up out of her chair and call her state representatives and ask why they can't fund such important work. You two quit blaming the President for your poor choices in elected representatives at the state and local level. Start acting mature and accept responsibility for your own actions. Oh, and vote a tax raise for yourself, so your aunt can have a properly funded office.

Yeah, kids in unamrked mass graves holding their toys with bullet holes in their skulls...hundreds of them, and most likely more we won't hear about for years, in Iraq. Must not be worth your consideration.

The revelation about DNC talking points and UBL are revealed in #66.

did bob shrum write this speech for him?

It's official OBL is now on the DNC seal

70 Zaideh

Unfortunately, we don't know because skerry will NOT sign form 180. The word is that he was summarily pardoned by a private military tribunal (there were quite a few of these "secret" military "appraisals" of dishonoarable discharges during the Carter administration). If he was given a full pardon, no matter what he's done, it's a mute point, becausea pardon is by executive order. One thing is for sure, wheather or not the traitor wins, this still needs to be pursued. If he loses, he still has his senate seat, and those asleep at the wheel in Mass. need to know that Ted is not the only dishonest lowlife that they've elected, and they need to change course!

#70

These two sound familiar?

John Fraud sKerry:

#1 Was for, then against the war. Spoke out against the Commander in Chief. Used MSM to undermine the war effort. Undermined US soldiers efforts. Attempted to appease the enemy. Used this for political gain. - Nam

#2 Was for, then against the war. Spoke out against the Commander in Chief. Used MSM to undermine the war effort. Undermined US soldiers efforts. Attempted to appease the enemy. Used this for political gain. - Iraq

Hmmm... I live in IL, and my vote will be stolen by some phoney vote in Chicago tomorrow. What do you think? -- if the majority of the legal votes in IL are for Bush, but Kerry wins all of the electors by vote fraud, will Chicago be on or off the hit list?

(Gotta check that fine print, eh?)

(For a little Chicago Catholic in-joke, it sure is mighty appropriate that election day is on the Feast of All Souls, eh?)

cathy :-)

#86

How does that information help a construction worker in central ohio.

Chris rock or Dave matthews never made a dime for me.

Just what is your point?

Those people are citizens just like the rest of us...with only one vote,what makes them or their opinions any more important than mine?

#70 Zaideh-

The LLL & MSM would tell America that the Impeachment was "just about youthful experimentation" and that "experimentation" is best left between Kerry and his God.

Ossama Alive?? Boy, was I wrong in my "reasoned" assumption he was room temperature and scattered over Tora Bora.

Oh, well - I also predicted we would prevail in Vietnam after the late spring of 1970 when we invaded the Cambodian sanctuaries, assuming we would follow up and invade through the DMZ and into Vinh.

Where are the guys who hunted down Pablo Escobar when we need them?

Chuletta!

#86 reed_b:

Yes, we understand, "liberals good, conservatives baaaad". Now please resume your ruminating elsewhere.

Quick quick. We're all wrong. #86 reed_b has shown us the error of our ways. I'm signing off now... reed_b told me to.

Ahh an article from FrontPage by PHYLIS CHESLER!!!

Let me tell you about ol' Phylis--she came to our synagogue once, see, and her anti-muslim, anti-arab, anti-semitic agenda shocked so many in our fairly conservative jewsih community that they pulled the plug on her half way through the speech.

# 86

International tourists flock to liberal cities--NY, LA, Washington DC, Miami, San Francisco, Vegas, etc--not Louiseville, KY.

So the next time you feel the need to mouth off against liberals...don't.

Well...somebody has to perform oral sex for money.

#99

Confuse a liberal state a fact

#86 reed_b

America profits off the libs--from entertainment to literature to technology...America is respected and admired for the libs, not for the backward conservatives. Dave Matthews is a liberal. Chris Rock is a liberal. So is Steve Jobs, Leno, Conan, Jon Stewart, and Letterman.

You're right. Without Rock, Stewart and Conan propping up the GDP, the USA would be some disease invested dirtroad backwater hellhole.

Thanks liberals for all the culture and class imparted by these world giants.

/do I need it ;-)

#72 Mike_NYC

The operative word is THINK.

#82 will_not_

Love the AP take on this --

"Evan F. Kohlmann, a U.S.-based counterterrorism researcher, said it was as if bin Laden were following the news from the United States, perhaps on satellite TV, and drawing shrewd assumptions about what concerns Americans.

"He is trying to create doubts in America's mind that this war is worth the cost," Kohlmann said. "

These idiots never stopped to think that he would see and LOVE the second-guessing, waffling and rhetoric! They still haven't realized that Mikey Moore is OBL's numba one speechwrita yet! What a**holes

#75 Bekenwhite

I call Bullshit on MEMRI, and not just because I live in Kentucky.

O.k. Then Carville wrote the whole thing.

So the next time you feel the need to mouth off against liberals...don't.

Even Tenet now says Iraq war was wrong.

When I read the crocodile reference, I wondered whether OBL had been reading Steyn.

"Louiseville, Kentucky"

Huh?
Oh, they have their share of liberals, and so do we.
Our state is so firmly in the Bush column, we don't get many commercials re: the Presidential election, but Jim Bunning is making up for it. Go Jim Bunning!

#105

In other words.........

celebrities=important
workers =garbage

I don't know about the rest of you all but I take that post by reed_b as an insult to working class people and anyone who doesn't live in one of his listed liberal utopias.

#38 reed_b

My aunt is a caseworker supervisor at Ohio Jobs and family services and she has horror stories that pale in comparison to anything we read about from the Middle East.

So, why do you have to talk to your aunt to hear about that instead of reading about those same children in the news papers?

Could it be the reality of child abuse is always far worse than the news media is willing to put in print? Especially if it's news from another country, and printing the full truth would be "insensitive", "inflamnatory", and "disrespectful of the customs of other cultures"?

Of course, I suppose the Ohio Pentecost Church is recruiting suicide bombers to send to the Presbyterians, and the Mormons are casterating all the little girls in their church, right?

Oh, yeah. Rove is causing bad weather to keep the Democrat voters home, too.

[/sarcasm]

(Does this really need a sarcasm tag?)

(Oh, yeah. Democrat poster.)

VOTE BUSH!

And show that glorified pigfucker that we think of his feckless threats.

No apologies, OBL, but we ain't Spain, headcheese.

86 reed b

you are such a little person. Everyone of your "mentors" you mentioned is in the entertainment industry!!! Who gives a crap what the whacks in Hollywood think!!?? As a matter of fact, most of the time they don't think! If you don't believe me, listen to an interview with Sean Penn. No one you mentioned has any credentials that make them authorities on ANY area of governing a country!! But they are cultured. Guess what...France is the most cultured country in the world...whoopty shit!! Those P**sies have been invaded so many times the don't even know who they are!!!

#86

As Laura Ingraham would say:

"Shut up and sing!"

93 paxnhymn

If he was given a full pardon, no matter what he's done, it's a mute point, becausea pardon is by executive order.

Amendment 14 says that only Congress, by a 2/3 vote, can restore eligibility for office to someone who has collaborated with the enemy. Seems to me that the explicit wording of this amendment would trump a Presidential pardon.

I imagine the question would ultimately go to the Supreme Court.

(Praying for Rehnquist to get well soon.)

America profits off the libs--from entertainment to literature to technology...

Well, sure. Because as Madonna, Spears, Manson, etc., have shown, there's no end to how much money you can make by pulling your pants down and saying naughty (Swedish?) words. And liberals are uniquely qualified for making total asses of themselves in public.

America is respected and admired for the libs, not for the backward conservatives.

Maybe. But when foreigners are complaining about what a violent, depraved society we are, I'm inclined to think they are getting their views from the works Hollywood, not Branson.

I was wondering where Howard Dean got his material.

THIS just in:

sKerry wants stronger ticket; replaces Edwards with Bin Laden.

reed whatever
'
Yes, liberals do apparently succeed occasionally despite their ignorance and naivete on world and economic affairs.

Hey, look at Sean Penn, Sarandon and her hand-puppet husband, striesand, et al.

A broken clock is correct twice a day too.

So whats your point?

We cant banish them (although that would be funny), but we certnainly can criticise them for their silly childish worldviews

I don't know why my #109 posted with out MY comment to add, but it's better that WE ALL STOP FEEDING THE TROLL.

#101 reed_b:

her anti-muslim, anti-arab, anti-semitic agenda

Oh, don't tell me, let me guess: when you use the term "anti-semitic", you're using it in the "because Arabs are Semites, too" sense, right?

#86:

America is respected and admired for the libs, not for the backward conservatives.

No. The people you mentioned entertain the world. America is respected and admired for i) getting things done, and ii) supporting democracy. Kind of Reaganesque/Bushesque qualities. And if, say, the Palestinians don't "respect and admire" my country, that actually makes me quite happy. I'd be worried if they did.

#110 reedy

Even Tenet now says Iraq war was wrong.

Wait!! I thought the expression he preferred was "slam dunk."

#108 Jeeves

hell I wouldn't give that moron that much credit. But it doesn't say each US state, it says "..every state that doesn't play with our security..."

The rest of the world thinks of nations as "states" - especially since most of those little countries in the middle east are about the size of Vermont.

He's posturing to the whole world (including Saudi Arabia, Iraq, etc.)...

Just one skeptic's opinion...

#93 paxnhymn  

Unfortunately, we don't know because skerry will NOT sign form 180. The word is that he was summarily pardoned by a private military tribunal (there were quite a few of these "secret" military "appraisals" of dishonoarable discharges during the Carter administration). If he was given a full pardon, no matter what he's done, it's a mute point, becausea pardon is by executive order.

US Constitution, Amendment XIV Section 3:

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

Looks to me like the constitution is pretty darn clear -- one president plus a military tribunal does not equal 2/3 of each house of congress...

cathy :-)

reed_b -

When you masturbate, G-d kills a kitten.

#123 Occasional Reader
Maybe he fancies himself a budding entertainment giant. Tremendous talent just waiting to be discovered. You know how they are.

Remarkable how much "the real" Osama sounds like the Seth Myers impersonation of Osama on Saturday Night Live. (Athough this past Saturday, the SNL Osama, unlike the real one, went on at length about Teresa Heinz Kerry and how "horrible" she is. Tee hee.

#38 reed b

My aunt is a caseworker supervisor at Ohio Jobs and family services and she has horror stories that pale in comparison to anything we read about from the Middle East.

I am from Ohio and have been to the ME. You have absolutely no idea what the f*ck you are talking about.

117 Java Man

well...live n learn! I did not know that. Sincerely, thanks for the info: it's good that if he wins he may have to release all of his records after all. But if W wins, we already know that there are a couple of asshats in Congress waiting to try the "I" word.....

It's a very wearying battle, when the elitist lose power..they get nasty..

To all liberals,

As you all go the the polls tomorrow keep in mind that your candidate a.k.a sKerry has the same talking points as the worlds #1 bad guy a.k.a. Bin Laden.

# 124 Jeeves

Flip Flop Jr?

America profits off the libs--from entertainment to literature to technology...America is respected and admired for the libs, not for the backward conservatives. Dave Matthews is a liberal. Chris Rock is a liberal. So is Steve Jobs, Leno, Conan, Jon Stewart, and Letterman.

Arnie probably has a bigger worldwide fanbase than all of those people put together.

Oh and you forgot Matt Damon, heh. It's no great surprise that 'celebrities' follow the looney left, a lot of them already have the key personality traits required, arrogance and conceitedness.

#86 reed_b -

All your heroes died horrible, violent deaths at the end of Team America.

{demonic cackling, on license from Iron Fist}

As has been said, "An ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure."

Also, a bird in the hand is worth two in the Bush.

Hey OBL swing your skinny little worn out *ss down to Texas and we'll show you a little Texas hospitality.

Ever had a bull dick rammed up your *ss?? How about a hundred times over for the next 100 years.

Happy to accomodate!!!!

#127 Frank IBC:

Now, just to illustrate my earlier point, let's rewrite your post as follows:

When you masturbate, G-d kills a Swedish kitten.

See what I mean?

No question he is appealing for an "alliance" with the Bush haters.

The terrorism has not persuaded the majority to give in to them, so he is clearly taking the opposite -the John Kerry position --trying to form "alliances" with enough people within the United States.

But why? Of course, the aim is still to take over the United States, implement Islam globally. What better way to do that then to have the citizens of that country assisting?

Two countries bascially stand in their way -Israel in the ME and the United States globally.

133 Bush' Babe

Jeeves obviously is CLUELESS that Tenet was a Clinton appointee and longtime Dhimmicrat. Bush kept him on as part of the "new tone" with the left...lotta good it did him!!!

Having read the full transcript now, I'll just say that Bin Laden's tape is an absolute obscenity.

At the end, he pretends to speak for the people he murdered on September 11th.

#86--

Not that it's any excuse for murdering innocent people, but a lot of these "artists" are the reason the ME thinks of us as a degenerate, hedonistic culture.

America profits off the libs--from entertainment to literature to technology...America is respected and admired for the libs, not for the backward conservatives. Dave Matthews is a liberal. Chris Rock is a liberal. So is Steve Jobs, Leno, Conan, Jon Stewart, and Letterman.

Living off of food grown by those red-staters in flyover country.

Defended by a military that appears to be supporting GWB by a 3-1 margin in a recent poll.

We will start the clock.

Libs will stop eating food grown by red-staters, and stop being defended by red-staters

Conservatives will stop watching/listening to Leno, Conan, Chris Rock.

tick...tick...tick...tick...

128 J.D.

Maybe UBL is pitching a new "reality" series..

"My Big Fat Obnoxious Mujahadeen"

"The Simple Life or Death"

"Surviving"

"This Old Cave"

any more?

Well, I'd hate to think Osama has any experience with nice Catholic she-goats.

:)

Anti-American Idol?

It would be kinda cool if he sang the "Banana Boat" song.

The Devil's Apprentice

#86 moonbat_unit_b -

Louiseville, KY

Where's that? Is that the sister city of Louisville?

I wanna see "Funniest Outakes from the Osama Video".

#144 dvaprez:

Dude, I'm way ahead of you...

Well, let me tell ya'...I live in a Red State. If anything happens to people in this Red State, people of the islamic persuasion, had better pull an alec baldwin (only have the balls and do it) and move to france or a comparable Blue State (comparable to france that is).

Cause if those people of the islamic persuasion don't leave, they never will.

144
"My Three Suicide Bombers"

"Wheel of Torture"

"sharia Law & Order"

" Every body Loves Muktata"

Note to Osama Bin Laden:

Allah is a murdering son of Satan you stupid SOB!

Please forward this to him immediately.

Thank You.

151 Occasional Reader

Good stuff!

Great minds!

151 Or

LOL... I 'member that post!!!

WE will pursue them wherever they are, even if it is a blue state.

Sorry fellow lizards but I still think the Prince of Darkness came out of hiding because of Zarqawi. The great mastermind couldn't let Zarqawi dis him by proclaiming that OBL was afraid and hiding from the Americans while he, Zarqawi, leads the Muslim whores/ hoardes to victory. It's an old fashioned power struggle.

Speaking of obscenity, LLL talking points, and Bin Laden, I'm reminded of this post by Wretchard at Belmont Club from just before the 9/11 anniversary this year.

Chilling.

In my opinion, post #152 crosses the line, and should be deleted.

Decapitation Island

"Amazing Race across the RED STATES"

"Manhattan Cabbie Bitch Slap"

I gotta quit this...

Who translated Michael Moore's script for OBL into Arabic?

Someone put a bullet in this c**t's brain already. No one cares what this camel humping piece of human garbage thinks or says.

#152 Elcid:

Only those of the Christian persuasion target Red States.

Did you allow them to leave after 1995?

#16 AZIslamophobe  11/1/2004 01:09PM PST

"While reading this whole transcript I couldn't help but to think his goal is no longer to scare us but to divide us. He knows how the left thinks and it struck me that all the Palestinian loving liberals in Europe and the US will eat this crap up."

Exactly. The screed argues that his islamokillers are actually victims, a plea obviously aimed at lefty. Islam cannot defeat us militarily. Their only shot at victory lies in exploiting our political divisions by massaging the emotions of the morally ignorant, morally ambiguous, and morally perverse. Osama can't defeat us. But he can help us defeat ourselves.

Since contemporary TV is covered, I'll go TVLand.

Abdullah's Island -- Seven castaways are stranded on an island in the Arabian Sea. Mr. bin-Howell immediately takes Ginger and Mary Ann as wives and forces them into burq'as, and the Professor spends all of his time constructing buzzing prayer rugs out of bamboo and coconuts.

Star Trek The Starship al-Enterprise patrols the galaxy looking for new Islamic Holy Sites. In the pilot, Spock is beheaded for apostasy.

Car Swarm 54 Where Are You? The whacky adventures of two Palestinian souvenir hunters.

The CBS Evening News Thirty nightly minutes of anti-American propaganda. In other words, no discernible change.

And what the hell does this mean?:

Finally, it behooves you to reflect on the last wills and testaments of the thousands who left you on the 11th as they gestured in despair. They are important testaments, which should be studied and researched.

Among the most important of what I read in them was some prose in their gestures before the collapse, where they say, "How mistaken we were to have allowed the White House to implement its aggressive foreign policies against the weak without supervision." It is as if they were telling you, the people of America, "Hold to account those who have caused us to be killed, and happy is he who learns from others' mistakes," And among that which I read in their gestures is a verse of poetry, "Injustice chases its people, and how unhealthy the bed of tyranny."

More of that typically retarded arab conspiracy theory shit? Those people are so gullible and stupid it's amazing they've even survived this long and haven't shot their guns into their own faces.

Osama's Funniest Outtakes

I think we can agree that bin laden kerry having the same talking points is a pretty bad sign for the one runing for potus, but which would be worse?

Kerry getting talking points from OBL
or
OBL getting talking points from Kerry?

#86 reed_b

You have it backwards. All those people could disappear off the face of the earth and the rest would survive.

But few of those persons could survive without all the "conservative backwards Americans" the firemen, police, farmers, teachers, mechanics not to mention the military.

Personally, I do not see how being a celebrity, making a great deal of money for entertaining gives anyone more crediability to determine what "values" SHOULD be than a farmer growing my food in Iowa.

I for one if I had to make a choice to live with one or the other--would choose the farmer --not the entertainer. They are expendable and I think they know it.

The needs and values of "middle America" are no less important and, probably even more important if one stops to think of what our priorities really are.

Sorry, I repeated myself. :(

ShanNYC

Of course timmy was allowed to leave, just not the way he thought he would. Any good terrorist deserves the best.

Kevin the Ox -

Beats me - I barely even know what "behooves" means.

#154

And Muhammad (piss be upon him) is his false prophet.

#167 V the K: I knew we could count on you! (Gold star for "Car Swarm 54").

To which I would add:

Da Abu G Show--A talented British comedian impersonates the archetypal "hip" Pakistani jihadist. In the last episode, he's beheaded after it's discovered his last name is "Cohen".

Re: several posts wondering what the LLL's think of bin Ladens Michael Moore spew:

Unfortunately, most of them will take it as vindication for everything they have been saying. "See, it's our fault, it's our "policies" that got bin Laden upset." Re-read the transcript with an LLL mindset if you dare. It will never occur to them - hasn't so far - that bin Laden and terrorists the world over are MSM junkies and will regurgitate the very things they know will turn this country.

168 kevin the ox
And what the hell does this mean?:

I wondered about that too.

My building starts collapsing and I think I might die, the last thing in the world I would be thinking was --gee this happened because of the White House policies?

I don't think so.

I doubt that very few who died even KNEW that the planes were terrorist attacks, if they even knew it was planes. And it seems highly unlikely that would have crossed their minds in those few moments.

What a bunch of nonesense.

Finally, it behooves you to

I hadn't really thought about the use of that word --behooves.

That's a word I heard when I was young primarily used by European immigrants but rarely used now, having become almost archaic.

I would have no idea if that was commonly used by English speaking Arabs.

More OBL t.v.:

Real Sex XI: Naughty Swedish She-Goats--[description deleted, in the name of all that's decent]

Dura the Exploder--Charming animated children's series, featuring a spunky, globetrotting child shahid.

#165 ShanNYC  11/1/2004 02:30PM PST

Only those of the Christian persuasion target Red States.

McVeigh was a terrorist, but he was not a Christian terrorist. (And I have never heard of a "Christian terrorist" with the possible exception of the IRA.)

McVeigh, although just as evil as Bin Laden, did not use religion as a rallying cry. McVeigh did not murder in the name of a deity. He had no religiously motivated followers. In fact, McVeigh had virtually no followers.

Compare this to Muslim terrorists like Al Queda who explicitly kill "non-belivers" in the name of Allah. Muslim terrorists use mosques as headquarters to violently spread Islamic hatred around the world.

If you don't see the difference between the politically motivated evil carried out by a lone s.o.b. like McVeigh and the Islamic, religiously motivated evil carried out by Bin Laden and millions of Muslim followers and sympathizers, then you sir are a fool.

where do red staters go for entertainment? blue states, of course--NY, DC, LA, SF, Miami, etc.

So cut the bull shit with this liberal-bashing. Without liberals, America would be like--Indiana. Who the fuck wants to live there? Even Bush doesn't go there.

In essence, OBL is saying vote for Kerry, or I will personally kill you. Those voting for Kerry, I personally will thank before cutting your head off for being so stupid. Butt out OBL, just watch the results as they come in on your satellite TV by BBC and cry along with Plett when Bush is elected.

#152

this Red State, people of the islamic persuasion, had better pull an alec baldwin (only have the balls and do it) and move to france or a comparable Blue State (comparable to france that is).

Cause if those people of the islamic persuasion don't leave, they never will.

There you have it, compassionate conservatism.

#182 reed_b:

GAZE

#30 Curt  11/1/2004 01:14PM PST

"I get it! If you hang a used Kerry Edwards campaign sign over the front door of your house, they won't park a car full of explosives in your driveway, and if you wear a Kerry_Edwards button, then the nails and ball bearings from the suicide bomber in the middle of the mall, movie theater, or place of business you are in when he/she explodes will magically go around you, knowing you were one who "heeded the warning."

You nailed it. There's no point in trying to make sense of diabolical craziness. OBL's ravings are grotesque troll postings writ large and intended only to sow confusion and division. Western civilization and Islamofascism cannot co-exist on earth. Either they go or we go. That much is clear.

reed_b

You are a pesky little dumb bastard...email me...I'll give you my Red State address and phone number...come see me...anytime...son...or is it sonn'et

reed-b (a butthead)

You bait posters with your vile crap and then belittle them with sarcasm about being compassionate conservatives?

Charles, this troll has to go. It has nothing to say.

Reed - get back in your mother's basement and go back to watching pr0n. You are pitiful.

#54 rtheyserius  11/1/2004 01:25PM PST

"I'm not going to read the Bin Laden transcript for two reasons:
1. Bin Laden can kiss my ass.
2. Al-Jazerra can kiss my ass."

Good on ya. Only good reason to inspect it: know thy enemy.

182 reed_b
where do red staters go for entertainment?

What makes you think that "entertainment" is defined only by what YOU apparently consider entertainment?

Perhaps "red staters" don't have to go anywhere an pursue entertainment because their lives are more rich with relationships, family and other interests?

There is more richness to life than "entertainment" and the majority comes from our interaction/relationships and experiences --not from what we "do" to amuse ourselves.

Don't feel sorry for anyone living in Indiana as you mentioned. They may have a far richer life because they don't have to seek out "entertainment" to feel their life is good.

I have traveled all over the world and to just about every major US city and trust me entertainment isn't everything.

reed_b

Even Tenet now says Iraq war was wrong.

What Tenet said in that speech was that the information supplied by the CIA was wrong. The rag that put out the "Tenet says war wrong" headline had to print a retraction because that is not what he said.

reed,

Get away from the 'puter for awhile. Get some strange. Use you left hand.

In 2000, Osama targeted LA and Seattle. In 2001, he hit New York and DC. These are all solidly blue states. We don't know who sent the anthrax, but that targeted democrats as well. Democrats do not forget.

He is a liar and has no intention of offering peace to Blue America, Red America or any square inch of America anywhere. His purpose is only to divide us. You should not take his lies to heart and let them turn you against your fellow Americans. That is his sole goal in making such absurd promises.

Has it ocurred to you guys that maybe bin Laden fully understands that if he attacks Bush, he drives more voters towards Bush? Bin Laden definitely has this Leninist "let me provoke as much conflict as possible" streak going, so maybe he actually wants Bush to win.

Not that a decisive conflict between us and them would be a bad thing. If you ask me, it's long overdue, in fact.

where do red staters go for entertainment? blue states

There might be some truth to this. You know what else is entertaining? Kids. They say the darndest things. Much more fun than those boring old grown-ups.

But I'm glad it's the grown-ups who are running things.

#188 Bernadette  

Just so you know many of those who watch p0rn will vote for W. Or so I hear. Not that I know this firsthand or anything. I just, um read it somewhere.

ShanNYC
Terrorists in America

Get yourself an education in the facts. And by the way everyone ShanNYC votes BUSH

Here's my take on reed b.

Sounds like a young person, probably living in a "red state" bored stiff, dreams of being a famous celebrity and living their exciting lives.

Nothing unsual about imagining that when you are young, yearning for more "exotic" experiences.

Problem is, it is idealized. All that fame and fortune, excitement and thrilling lifestyle rarely makes anyone "happy" if they were not so to begin with. Just look at the reality of how many are self-destructive and miserable.

So reed b --if you are young, go ahead and imagine and daydream but just don't fool yourself by idealizing that "liberals" have a more exciting lifestyle and thus are more satisfied and feel good about themselves.

Aim for meaningful experiences --not entertainment. Aim for quality relationships and quality experiences not quantity. Do what interests you and enjoy it.

#165 ShanNYC it is stupid and pathetic to call Timothy McVeigh a Christian since he never referred to the Bible as a source for his ideas, he never represented himself as a Christian, never quoted the Bible, did not attend church and even denied, in one report, that Jesus is the Son of God.

Timothy McVeigh could not be called a Christian by an objective observer. But you are not an objective observer.

Now can you say the same about the 911 guys?

#60 jwpaine 11/1/2004 01:31PM PST

"I've got a response for OBL, and it's a quote from, well, none other than OBL:
"Does the crocodile understand a conversation that doesn't include a weapon?"

Just so. The reverse projection jive is an old lefty tactic: accuse their opponents of doing exactly what they themselves do. In this case Osama's Islamofascim exists only at the point of a sword, and anyone who resists is a crocodile. Like the left accusing all and sundry of being fascists, when we know who is, and what real fascism consists of: lefties.

#152

There you have it, compassionate conservatism.

That's right, wipe them off the face of the earth just as the Lord Jesus Christ commanded Israel to do when they came out of Egypt and took the seven nations. If they would have obeyed God, instead of feeling compassion for EVIL then there would be no terrorists today because they would all be DEAD!!!

A compassionate Conservative Christian or Jew has every right to utterly despise evil.

OBL mentions that the slaughter from Israel entering Lebanon in 1982 really upset him. He seems to have forgotten Syria invading many years before.

I have a couple friends from Lebanon. They tell chilling stories of the Syrian's shelling civilian areas. Back in the late 70's when they were just kids.

Does anyone have OSL's e-mail?? I'd like him to clear this up publicly...

I tried philosophically_a_midget@yahoo.com, but nada...

I think osama's e-mail is either

osama@dnc.com
or
osama@johnkerry.com

#196 Cornholio

Did my comment come across as insulting those who watch pr0n? Didn't mean to. Only meant it for those who still watch it in their mother's basement cuz they don't have their own place (with or without basement) to do so.

Don't know anyone like that do you?

ShanNYC it is stupid and pathetic to call Timothy McVeigh a Christian since he never referred to the Bible as a source for his ideas,

Not really. McVeigh murdered en masse So did Bin Laden. Same difference. BTW, the 9/11 hijackers went to a strip club and got drunk the night before. Some Muslms.

#65 toddhisattva  11/1/2004 01:33PM PST

"It must be 'cause coloring Democrats red would be too...hmmm, what's the word I'm looking for...Democrats = Red...oh, yeah...
Coloring Democrats Red is too accurate.

Precisely. Blue is camouflage, just as is "liberal". Commie/collectivist/socialist/tribalist wankers they are, but gotta hide, hide, hide it. You can put lipstick on a pig, but...

#205 reed_b, the 9/11 hijackers did nothing against their religion the night(s) before 9/11.

Problem is, it is idealized. All that fame and fortune, excitement and thrilling lifestyle rarely makes anyone "happy" if they were not so to begin with. Just look at the reality of how many are self-destructive and miserable

Not really, I have been to Indiana--it sucks. The people are backward and fat (even though the food is horrific)--whole towns are depressing. Hoosiers yearn for class--you can see that in the way they waddle up to Starbucks.

Compare that to NYC or DC (90% Democrat) and the diversity--people, food, entertainment, cultures--is amazing. Get out of your enclosures and experience what is out there. You may fear Arabs less if you actually meet them.

Cornholio, Canadian:

I think McVeigh considered himself to be Christian. In any event, my post was in response to Elcid, #152. I find it telling that you'd choose to denigrate me, when the person I replied to advocates vigilanteism against Muslims in red states should the unthinkable occur. But I guess that's okay since they are Muslims.

Let's be clear here: Islamists must die. Innocent Muslims must be left in peace. The fact that I need say this proves to me that the terrorists are in fact winning in their cause: make us like them.

#181 Cornholio
"then you sir are a fool."

....and a tool!

If either America or Israel are ever defeated, it won't be by invaders from without.
We are both vulnerable only to the rot from within.

David Horowitz now on Cspan 2!

Kicking ass and taking names. W00t!

#66 Mormon Doc  11/1/2004 01:34PM PST

Bush Impeached…By the World

LoL! Topsy Turvy land! There's a good Gilbert & Sullivan operetta in there, get crackin'.
:-)

#209 ShanNYC,

Let's be clear here: Islamists must die. Innocent Muslims must be left in peace.

Ok. How will you determine which is which?

"I think McVeigh considered himself to be Christian."

So even if he was a nominal Christian what does that have to do with anything? He didn't kill 158 people, who were mostly Christian, because the Bible told him to. He didn't do it to get 72 virgins.

"I find it telling that you'd choose to denigrate me,"

All I wrote was that it was pathetic and stupid to say what you said, I didn't call you pathetic and stupid.

ooh ooh more more ooh ooh

Pr()n or Michael Moore at a buffet?

the full content of the osama video still not shown by the mass media, hmmm

go figure... that really surprises me...

must be just a massive oversight....

This is what a "non Islamic" Muslim is taught:

they should lie to protect their lives and religion

Islam requires submission to Allah

If you die in Jihad you go to paradise

Those who reject Islam must be killed

Fight them until they are no more

The ultimate goal of Islam is world domination

Those practicing True Islam are the ones we call Terrorists. Those not practicing true Islam are either secular Muslims or lying to protect themselves.

So cut the bull shit with this liberal-bashing. Without liberals, America would be like--Indiana. Who the fuck wants to live there? Even Bush doesn't go there.

You condescending puke.
I have toured every one of those "flyover states" you so disdain. They are filled with decent, kind, hardworking people. You and your ilk are not fit to shine their shoes.
JWM

#205 reed_b

9/11 hijackers went to a strip club and got drunk the night before. Some Muslms.

Yes they did. Koran condones "lying or deception" and even breaking the rules if it is done to further Allah's cause.

Besides they didn't have to worry about breaking any of the rules --they were headed to paradise no matter what for sacrificing themselves for Allah's cause.

#190 Nancy
"I have traveled all over the world and to just about every major US city and trust me entertainment isn't everything."

Stuff I've picked up over the years.

Fun is not synonymous with pleasure or happiness.
Looking into my four year old grandaughter's eyes as she smiles & says "I love you Puppah." is a joy most of this shallow aesthete's idols will never experience.

Solitude is not loneliness.

Peace is more than the absence of hostilities.

If your car breaks down in the boonies, which would you rather see coming down the road: a stretch limo with California plates or a beat up clanking truck overloaded with farm produce?

So cut the bull shit with this liberal-bashing. Without liberals, America would be like--Indiana. Who the fuck wants to live there? Even Bush doesn't go there.

Signed,

John Kerry

#218 hey, I resemble that remark

JFK

After reading the full transcript, one is impressed with how awkwardly Osama Bin Laden interprets American and world affairs. But how attentive he is to the place goats play on the world stage.

That's because Osama places goats on equal value with Women. Hmmmmnnnnn

I still think he's dead. I'd like to hear what the experts who possess copies of the videotape have to say about its authenticity., and whether the lips match the words in Arabic, and whether it could be a stunt double reading.

Or another theory is that the enemy is smart enough to quit talking about what THEY want to talk about and concoct something that hits our hot-buttons -- and hire a traitor Westerner to frame it for them. But if they were smart enough to do that, you'd think they'd be smart enough to make it not so obvious and pathetic.

NOTHING here sounds like previous enemy statements. EVERYTHING sounds like moonbat talking points. Plus, besides political points, there are also many figures of speech that are very much western colloquialisms. Just one example: "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure." I realize that OBL had a western education, but still, that just doesn't sound like him, in phraseology or meaning.

I hope the Arabic speakers at MEMRI are working on a textual analysis with some commentary on which figures of speech are or are not current in Arabic.

In the meantime, I'm not buying it. I think it is another
CRUDE FORGERY.

#70 Zaideh  11/1/2004 01:35PM PST

"Here's my question:
Now What!
Is the election null & void?
Would he be impeached?
Who would fill the position?
Bush? Edwards? Chosen by Congress?

My stomach hurts."

Oh my god would somebody quick put an icepack on Zaideh's head? -- smoke's coming out his ears!

UBL...
Rather, the policy of the White House that demands the opening of war fronts to keep busy their various corporations – whether they be working in the field of arms or oil or reconstruction – has helped al-Qaida to achieve these enormous results.

And so it has appeared to some analysts and diplomats that the White House and us are playing as one team towards the economic goals of the United States, even if the intentions differ.

...I'm John Kerry and I approve this message.

#201 G. Galvan
"just as the Lord Jesus Christ commanded Israel to do when they came out of Egypt and took the seven nations."

Ummm...please don't take this the wrong way but (Pssst) there's a lot of folks here from , ahhh, the Jewish persuasion and, well, you know....
Let's not start any shit & maybe there won't be any. Okay?
BTW, I'm a Christian, too.

Captain Nemo

For what it's worth, and I'm no expert so it ain't worth much, I agree.

Canadian:

My point is, he is of the Christian persuasion (or so he himself would think). Post #152 referred to those of the "islamic persuasion." I was making a point in response to 152. McVeigh was not a Christian terrorist, he was a terrorist who thought he was Christian.

I think you and I would agree on the big issue: Islamists are not meant for this world. I also think that you would agree with me that innocent Muslims are not to be blamed for those who murder in their religion's name. Other than that, any differences we have are superficial.

As far as finding who the innocent Muslims are, that is not my job, nor your job, nor Roger's. I am a firm believer, for Americans, anyway, that one is innocent until proven guilty. Like the majority of Americans, I think Americans who happen to be Muslim are hard-working, law-abiding folks who share in our disgust at the actions of Islamists.

Frank IBC and Nancy,
I could certainly be wrong, but OBL /spit/ seems to be saying that he's read somewhere that someone has deciphered the arm movements of people waving out the windows of the WTC towers (may Heaven rest their souls in eternal bliss that their Muslim killers will see from the midst of their eternal torment!!!), perhaps some screwy kind of pseudo-semaphore reading or somesuch. That's what it looks like to me, anyway.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if some stripthreaded wingnut really put that forth as an idea, posted it on one of their ludicrous websites, and he got it from there. Otherwise it doesn't seem to make much sense at all.

Hey, quit bashing liberals already! Listen, if there were no liberals, there would be no swell shows, such as "The Simple Life" and "Sex in the City," and you probably wouldn't even know about such really swell stars like Paris Hilton and Brittany Spears and Courteny Love, and all the rest of those really, really swell stars that people all around the world love! (Because they're so swell!)

Without liberals, everything would be like Indiana! Even Tibet would be like Indiana! Everybody would be fat and backward---unlike svelte, ultra-sophisticates, such as Michael Moore and Oprah.

You'd never be able read the L.A. Times, which is a really swell liberal paper, or get botox injections, which make you look really swell! Without liberals, you'd all be wearing polyster jump suits, and living in caves! You don't want that, do you? Well then, if you don't, get out and vote for Kerry, the candidate of choice of Osama bin Ladin, Yassir Arafat and the KLA!

Hey, those guys may be terrorists, but they know how to party! And they're not like anybody from Indiana! If you met some Arabs, you'd think they were really swell. I've met some rich Saudis, and I think they're swell. At least, they're not like anybody from Indiana. I'm hoping some of them are going to buy my swell movie script! It's called "Amerikkka is PHAT!" and I'm going to read it to you, right now. . .

/Channeling a reed-b clone, and all those trendoids who think like him.

No intention to upset my jewish brothers, I think they know why Israel was exiled to Babylon. No offense those of Jewish descent for without you I would have no hope of salvation. Any comments were of a purely historical note and have no bearing on anything that has occurred after Joshua's conquest of the holy land.
Many apologies for sounding offensive.

Victor
"smoke's coming out his ears!"

Hah! You think that's something? Pull my finger.

#229 ShanNYC, well you will be beaten. Ratios of 3000/19....10000/19....100000/19 while you wait for proof of guilt. You and Kerry make a team.

reedb

George Tenet should have been fired the day after 911, and it was one of Bush's faults that he did not do so. Iraq may or may not have been a mistake, but Tenet is certainly not the man qualified to make that judgment.

208 reed_b

Get out of our enclosures?

I have been to DC countless times, in fact I used to go there at least once a year. NYC, San Fran, LA, New Orleans, Austin, Dallas, Paris, Londen, Singapore, Munich --just to name a few.

No question, the dining is terriffic, the plays are wonderful, the cities are beautiful and interesting. I couldn't agree with you more, DC is an amazing city for socializing and cultural activities.

My point was, that's not ALL there is. And, I have only driven through Indiana so I can't really say what's good or not good about living there. But I have been to almost all of the continental US and there is "entertainment and interest" and good, intelligent people to be found everywhere if one is open to not simply defining it by 4 star resturants, trendy pubs and museums.

Intelligence isn't measured by whether one knows what the best latte is.

Having class, come on. Laura Bush has far more class than Teresa Heinz--and Laura didn't come from a family and background of wealth and privelege.

You'd never be able read the L.A. Times, which is a really swell liberal paper, or get botox injections, which make you look really swell! swollen!

There.

#77 dvaprez  11/1/2004 01:39PM PST

Flimsy brown-paper backdrop....$2
Used VHS Camcorder bought on e-bay...$30
A day at the hair stylist...$75
Sounding nuttier than a fruit cake on TVs around the world....PRICELESS!

Agree: he's nobody but for his talent at mass murder.
But hey, it worked for Mohammad.

G. Galvan

Very gentlemanly of you.
Now resist the impulse to feel guilty; we ALL screw up at one time or another.
{:~)

Nightmare vision:

Hollywood, coast to coast.

Would God forgive suicide under those conditions?
Even if He didn't.....

#229 ShanNYC the point is McVeigh religous beliefs had no influence on what he did, while religous beliefs were integral to the Muslim terrorists acts on 911.

As to these good hard working Muslims, what's your point? If you let Muslims into your country you are taking the good with the bad. Since their religion allows and sanctions deception, they can pretend to be a moderate hardworking Muslim, while at the same time planning to nuke Dallas.

230 kevin the ox

What you said makes perfect "Jihadi sense." I used to be stunned by the absurd theories proposed --all with a lot of gibberish to make it sound complex but it was nonesense.

Oh, like a study (which I could find absolutely no other reference to the researcher or the paper cited except on their website) that Arabic chanting --saying "allah whatever" cured and even prevented mental illness.

Or, an even better one --the "bad" Muslims are really Jews. Because the Israeli women married Muslim men, converted to Muslim, raised the children as Muslim and since "Jewishness" is passed through the mother --all the "bad" Muslims MUST be really Jews. It was all a plot by the Mossad to pass the "bad seed" to Muslims.

Nothing would suprise me and these theories circulate and become "truth."

I just read the whole thing. It sounds just like a LLL Bush-hater in this country.

It's amazing how alike they are.

If I weren't already voting for Dubya, this tape would be more than enough to tip me that way. Osama says those who vote against Bush will be spared? Uh-huh. As a genuine, 100%, card-carrying infidel, I know better. The moment I refuse to kiss the Koran, it's off to the chopping block. Come get me, Osama! You're not the only man who knows how to operate an assault rifle...

A few murmers on the story from the usual sources:

Bin Laden's Economy Threat Is Timely

(CNSNews.com) - Initial translations of a key portion of Osama bin Laden's videotaped October surprise missed a bid by the terror mastermind to tilt the election towards Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry with a promise to spare any state that votes for Kerry from being attacked, the New York Post reports. The respected Middle East Media Research Institute, which monitors and translates Arabic media and Internet sites, said radical Islamist commentators monitored over the Internet this past weekend also interpreted the key passage of the tape to mean that any state that votes to re-elect President Bush will be considered an "enemy" and any state that votes for Kerry has "chosen to make peace with us."

Bin Laden Outlines Plan to Bankrupt U.S. Through War

I don't know, but this seems odd......

Height: Kerry 6'4"

bin Laden 6'4" to 6'6"

Noses: Kerry- Large

bin Laden- Large

Moral fiber: Kerry-None

bin Laden-None

Courage to stand and fight:

Kerry-Would rather call the UN and have others do the bidding

bin Laden-Would rather hide in caves and have others do the bidding

Kerry's stump speeches and bin Laden's latest Dr. Evil tape: Nearly the same rhetorical statements

Kerry & bin Laden have never been spotted in the same place at the same time.

Bruce Wayne-Batman Peter Parker-Spiderman

John Kerry-Osama bin Laden?

sarcasm-off.....

Kerry and his skagg, Edwards and his heffer, are not White House material, for they have no social graces.

Good night to all.

#141 Dar ul Harb  11/1/2004 02:09PM PST

"Having read the full transcript now, I'll just say that Bin Laden's tape is an absolute obscenity.

At the end, he pretends to speak for the people he murdered on September 11th.

Yes -- that monstrous gibberish about the "gestures" they made in dying. Unspeakably vile. This demented, cruel, sadistic creature giving us moral lectures: "Absolute obscenity". Yes.

I'm not able to go through all 247 preceding me, so hopefully this is not a repeat, but the best way to personally give Osama the finger is to vote for Bush.

For Reed B --

Here's some cultural trivia --(from a Midwestern conservative no less)

There term lobbyist originated from the lobby of the Willard Hotel in DC. The president (I think it was Grover Cleveland) liked to have a beverage and cigar and those who wanted to talk to him would hang out with him in the lobby. Thus --lobbyists.

Congratulations Usama,
You've been selected as the winner of a brand new GPS Picture phone with Unlimited Minutes.

Plus, you can take advantage of our "Friends & Family" plan. Call all your friends for free.

#233 Zaideh  11/1/2004 03:59PM PST
Victor --"smoke's coming out his ears!"

Hah! You think that's something? Pull my finger.

I just did.
My dog farted.
How'd you do that?

#237 J.D.

LOL!

This is my favorite part. Gosh, what a crazy joker this Bin Laden guy is.

"All of a sudden [Bush Sr.] was affected by those monarchies and military regimes [in Arab States], and became envious of their remaining decades in their positions, to embezzle the public wealth of the nation without supervision or accounting.

So he took dictatorship and suppression of freedoms to his son and they named it the Patriot Act, under the pretense of fighting terrorism. In addition, Bush sanctioned the installing of sons as state governors, and didn't forget to import expertise in election fraud from the region's presidents to Florida to be made use of in moments of difficulty."

OBL - FO!

USAMA - It's all right there:

United States of America and the abbreviation for the state of Massachusetts ?

MA

USAMA

Will anyone in the MSM stick a mic in M. Morons face and ask him:

So, what did you think of USAMA agreeing with everything you said in your movie (gag) F9/11 ?

And if he (gag) had theballs to answer, what would his answer be ?

No one could find him between the release of the tape and the election ?

Where is "Stuttering John" when he could actually do something useful ?

#86 reed-b

America profits off the libs--from entertainment to literature to technology...America is respected and admired for the libs, not for the backward conservatives. Dave Matthews is a liberal. Chris Rock is a liberal. So is Steve Jobs, Leno, Conan, Jon Stewart, and Letterman.

For my money - If Matthews, Rock, Jobs, Leno, Conan, Stewart & Letterman all were riding in a bus that slid off the road after hitting a pile of human excrement (dumped by some enviorment hating conservative) and hit a freaking tree, I could care less !
Anymore than they would be moved by reading my obit. A fact of life you need to learn junior. You're obviously impressed by "stars" and think everyone else is too. By the way - I moved out of NYC 14 years ago and haven't looked back, although I'm obliged to visit family during the holidays, I can't drive home fast enough ! You sound like you'd be ripe for plucking at the Port Authority Bus Terminal (NY'rs know what I mean).

Take a "Reality Pill" and check back in the morning.

#88 Zaideh

Before you start blasting away here please keep in mind:

New York is split 50/50. The greater NYC area (8 million)is the 50% "liberal" vote - the rest of the state (the other 50% - 8 million) is Conservative - many down right "red neck".
Many people don't realize that to drive from NYC west to Buffalo or NYC north to the Canadian border takes about 10 - 12 hours, same to drive to North Carolina.

And we don't hunt deer with our trusty shotguns !

Jordanian MP supports terrorism:

[Link: www.memritv.org...]