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Veteran's Day, 2004

Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 8:13:22 am PST

On this Veteran’s Day, I want to express my deepest gratitude to all of America’s veterans for their service and their sacrifices.

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1 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:13:57am
2 armytramp  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:14:10am

God bless all our vets, especially my dad and brother.

3 Joel  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:14:28am

What makes this an especially joyous veterans day is the knowledge taht Jean Francois Kerry will not be the Commander in Chief.

4 eeevil conservative  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:15:20am

Amen

Thank you! The bravest and most noble in the world.

Thank you! I look at my babies everday, and know how precious you are.

Thank you!

5 dcbatlle  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:15:50am

We stand in awe of your courage. Thank you for everything you have sacrificed, may the Lord's hand be over you.

6 vancomycin  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:16:00am

Yes, thank you to all of our veterans.


On a side note, would the local VFW be okay with me bringing by a card or some cookies or something today, do you think?

7 Gretchen  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:16:18am

Thank you to all who have served and are serving now. We appreciate your service.

8 'Nam Grunt  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:16:36am

Ain't this Country great, that Veterans can pass the baton of freedom and experience to the next generation of Veterans, I love them all!!! God Bless America.

9 nybabz  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:16:45am

I don't have anyone in my family who served, but my family prays for those families who do have loved ones in harm's way, all the time. We pray for them because they put it all on the line for us.

I went to Hugh Hewitt's blog this morning and read the letter Josh's fiance wrote, and it brought me to tears. While I did not know this man, I was humbled by his service.

I joined soldiersangels.com because Frankie DeMayo is one of the many people who can help me people like me, help those in service.

I urge you to pray today for all vets, for Josh's family and to sign up at Frankie's website.

GOD BLESS THOSE WHO READ THIS WITH A HUMBLE HEART AND MAY GOD BLESS AMERICA!

10 Pete_London  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:17:25am

To all, its our equivalent (Remembrance Day) in Britain when we honour our fallen. To you your Veterans, many Thanks.

Never forget.

11 Sol Roth  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:17:28am

On THIS Veterans day I shall remember that "W," a prez that sets a military vision then gets the holy fuck out of their way so that they can win, was re-elected.

That's one helluva gift to our guys in the trenches, and to our vet-victims of LBJ *vomit*, the ex-Texan.

12 W-lover  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:17:43am

Thank you, Veterans! I have always been, and will always be proud of you all!

13 BingoBunny  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:17:59am

Pray that our freedoms will always be protected by men and women with the courage and honor of those we have had serve us in the past and present.

14 griepenm  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:18:53am

Our military veterans have done more for this world than was ever asked of them. Thank you.

Matt and Jerry

15 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:19:41am

Dittos Charles!

I will forever be indebted to my PawPaw (WW2), my Uncle Mike (Vietnam), my Uncle Jim (Vietnam), my cousin Eddie (GW1) and my boyfriend, the Marine Lt.Col (ret) GW1

and to all of the men and women who sacrificed so much for the freedom that we enjoy today.

God Bless our Veterans and God Bless America!!

16 paxnhymn  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:19:49am

thanx Charles

And Happy Vets Day to all of my fellow brothers in arms out there..

I hate that sKerry ruined the term "band of brothers"
(what an *sshole!)

17 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:19:57am
18 Let's Roll  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:20:11am

Here are some people who don't support the troops. People in Vermont insisted a memorial on a bridge dedicated to a falled hometown soldier did not mention the phrases "Iraqi Freedom" and "Freedom isn't free". It's disgusting.

19 Got_truth  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:20:30am

Thank you for putting up this message and thank you veterans for your service to this country. God bless...

20 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:20:31am

To all veterans (including both of my parents) across the nation, this grateful American thanks you for your sacrifices and hopes that one day, I will be able to join your ranks (looking to join the USAF after college).

And, I can't think of a more fitting way to show my appreciation on this day than to say that I voted for a Commander-in-Chief that respects our troops and would never abuse their trust in him to be on good terms with the UN.

21 truthsword  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:20:41am

I posted a picture on my website in honor of Veteran's Day... The picture is of my children at the "Moving Wall" display... a smaller scale travelling version of the Vietnam Memorial Wall. My father is a Vet of both Korea and Vietnam and I honor him today as well as all who have served.

[Link: mysite.verizon.net...]

22 Rock  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:20:42am

As an Active Duty REMF, I would like to thank those who are actually over there in Fallujah and elsewhere.

Even us desk jockeys back home wish we could pick up a gun and lay some smackdown on those barbarians.

I'd like to thank my dad, who volunteered for two tours in Vietnam and saw things no one should ever see.

And I'd like to thank my wife's dad, who lied about his age to enter the Navy, flew F-4s over Vietnam, and lost his best friend when they were shot down.

These are the people who have made our lives possible. And all they ever asked was to not be spit upon.

Laura Ingraham is playing taps on her radio show right now. How fitting.

23 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:20:44am

Thank you to all our brave veterans.

And a big salute to my grandfathers, my father and my brother,
all who served and have since passed on. You are all my heros.

Finally, we have some respectable people to pay homage to.

I won't wait for Jimmy Carter and Jacques Ch-Iraq
to offer any tributes. They're too busy groveling before
terrorists.

24 Occasional Reader  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:20:56am

Thank you to all our veterans (and especially LGF vets). We enjoy the freedom we have because of you and those like you.

25 W-lover  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:21:33am

I'd also like to thank Dear Abby for pairing with the DOD. Please visit operationdearabby.net to send the troops a message!

26 Asher Abrams  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:22:42am

Charles, thank you. My father and I would probably be two of the least-stereotypically-military people you could imagine, but both of us served in wartime combat. Dad was in the Pacific in WWII, as a fire controller for artillery. (I've recently posted an excerpt from his memoirs.) I saw action with the Marines in Desert Storm.

My deepest gratitude and respect go out to fellow veterans everywhere, and also to the brave men and women who have supported us as family members, friends, and citizens. Thank you.

27 Roark  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:23:12am

Just remember, if you have today off, that day was given to you by those who would die for your way of life.

Uncle Jack

28 Catttt  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:23:15am

Thank you veterans.

Land of the free because of the brave.

29 quercus albus  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:23:30am

#17 Zell got it right (as usual)

I am so greatful to live in the United States. I thank God for the men and women who have served and sacrificed for freedom.

30 Geepers  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:23:34am

Our future veterans are destroying things and killing people:

Large U.S. Force Storms Southern Fallujah

The military estimated 600 insurgents have been killed in the offensive
31 Orinoco  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:23:35am

Thanks people!
Responding to #6 above: Most communities have organizations that are putting together CARE packages for the men and women overseas. Almost anything is welcome. Imagine what you might most enjoy if you were in the middle of a desert. Call around and find out where you can drop something off. The neighborhood fire house would be a good start.

I went around last week and dropped off a dozen frisbees.

~Orinoco
193rd Inf Bde (1972-1975)

32 ex-simple servant  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:23:43am

God bless our veterans past and present especially my DH (dear husband) USAF (Ret).

Our local radio host read Flanders Field this morning -- very moving. Here is a link to the poem and its history at the Arlington Cemetery site.

[Link: www.arlingtoncemetery.net...]

33 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:24:32am
34 Asher Abrams  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:25:36am

33/Infidel,

That one's always good for another posting. Thanks.

35 Crimsonfisted  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:25:51am

I want to add my thanks today too. I saw the Spirit of America show in Albany NY Sept this year. Very inspiring. I will carry it with me always and offer my gratitude to all who serve and who have served.

Thank you.

36 'Nam Grunt  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:26:01am

If you watch any of the clips of our Brave Men in Iraq you will see Brave Men firing their weapons at the enemy, but look how close they are to each other, in any clip. That says it all, the bond that Vets have for each other in combat. It lasts forever.

37 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:26:53am
38 lawhawk  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:27:13am

#24 Occasional Reader:

Couldn't have said it any better than that.

Godspeed to those soldiers fighting around the world for our protection and spreading the light of freedom on the oppressed.

39 Roger  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:28:31am

America’s veterans, thank you for my freedom!

40 RightWingNutJob  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:28:43am

To paraphrase a brilliant man:

"How retched is the man who has nothing in his life worth fighting for..."

Thanks to all our Vets!

41 harley  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:28:59am

Thanks to all veterans for our freedoms. My grandfather (WWII) my dad (vietnam) my other half (vietnam) and even my ex (grenada)

42 elBarto  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:29:07am

Thanks to all the vets out there. Thank you for the freedoms. Thanks and my God Bless.

43 Catttt  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:29:38am

OT
Meanwhile, a thread at Kos discusses inventive ways to do away with Karen Hughes (who could wipe the mat with them). They are so bitter. Get over it!

44 Canadian Conservative  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:31:43am

I am not a religious man, but this one day of the year I am always inspired to utter a heartfelt "God Bless you."

Thank you to all of the men and women who have fought and are still fighting for freedom.

45 Canadian Conservative  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:31:44am

I am not a religious man, but this one day of the year I am always inspired to utter a heartfelt "God Bless you."

Thank you to all of the men and women who have fought and are still fighting for freedom.

46 Canadian Conservative  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:31:45am

I am not a religious man, but this one day of the year I am always inspired to utter a heartfelt "God Bless you."

Thank you to all of the men and women who have fought and are still fighting for freedom.

47 Bob with one O  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:32:38am

Words can't begin to express the gratitude I have for all the Veterans and their families. A special thanks to the Vets who have personally touched my life.

You may have passed from this life but you are not forgotten. Duty. Honor. Country.

48 The Keeper  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:32:39am

Any and all uniformed services, today is your day, to reflect on the many times that Freedom was fought for, and for our quality of Life today.

Bless them all.

49 Californican  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:33:05am

Geepers

Our future veterans are destroying things and killing people

Shouldn't that say:
Our future veterans are destroying terrorists strongholds and killing filthy terrorist thugs?

Hmmmm?

50 chris_l  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:33:09am

Charles - here's some words from James Bradley whose father is memorialized on the Iwo Jima statue and who wrote the best seller "Flags of Our Fathers"

I always find his words moving and today particularly poingaint.

Words from James Bradley to contemplate on Veteran's Day

51 Asher Abrams  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:33:32am

37/S&DMan,

wow ...

First, perfect example of liberal self-victimization: Let's write ("but not send" - how coy!) threats against the President of the United States ... then, let's "experience the wave of fear and paranoia" when this idiotic stunt actually gets us the attention we are secretly craving.

Now, let's assume this guy is a suicide. (I know it hasn't been established yet, but let's consider it a reasonable speculation at this point.) What are the rest of us supposed to do? Feel guilty that we voted for Bush? Feel sorry that this moron's life was so empty and meaningless that he had to end it all because his man didn't win the presidential election?

This is the essence of leftist self-destructiveness.

52 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:33:56am
53 Model4  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:34:04am

Thank you vets! The world is a much better place because of your service and sacrifice.

54 riverofpearls  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:35:24am

Where do we get such men and women? Thank you to all the good men and women who have stood night and day defending our country when it needed them and thank you to all the good men and women who continue to do so.

55 truthsword  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:36:09am

I am watching the CSPAN stuff and I am hearing some subtle digs at Kerry heh heh "men and women who wore and HONORED the uniform"

56 Asher Abrams  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:36:24am

50/chris,

thanks for a very sobering post

57 Baldy  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:36:28am

OT: Protest the Assualt (sic) on Fallujah TODAY, in Pittsburgh, 530PM at Forbes & Murray (Squirrel Hill).
I saw the fliers today, and don't know who to tell. It's sponsored by CodePink4peace.org & organizepittsburgh.org

Hope you're all well. My computer may die again any second (oh- I think they can't spell "assault")....

58 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:37:01am

"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded sense of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing worth a war, is worse. When a people are used as mere human instruments for firing cannon or thrusting bayonets, in the service and for the selfish purposes of a master, such war degrades a people. A war to protect other human beings against tyrannical injustice; a war to give victory to their own ideas of right and good, and which is their own war, carried on for an honest purpose by their free choice, --is often the means of their regeneration. A man who has nothing which he is willing to fight for, nothing which he cares about more than he does about his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. As long as justice and injustice have not terminated their ever-renewing fight for ascendancy in the affairs of mankind, human beings must be willing, when need is, to do battle for the one against the other."
--John Stuart Mill (1806-1873), "The Contest In America," Fraser's Magazine, February 1862 [reprinted in Mill's Dissertations and Discussions, vol.1 p.26 (1868)]

59 andrew2  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:38:14am

GOD BLESS AMERICA AND GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES.

THANK YOU ALL!!!

60 RIP Ford  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:39:16am

#58 Dar ul Harb

Excellent. I love that quote

61 The Keeper  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:39:55am

#50 Chris

Awesome read.
I knew some of that but not all.
What a great day to read that!

Cheers and Godspeed.

62 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:40:02am

Thank you all that have served, are serving, and especially those that sacrificed all for us. Thanks.

And here is one of my favorite pics - just shows the pride of these individuals - here.

63 grapenut  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:40:29am

Our veterans deserve all the gratitude, respect, and love we can give them! They endured and sacrificed so much for all of us, and our troops in Iraq and Afganistan are now doing the same. God bless them and keep them!


Kinda OT

Here is someone who isn't a defender of the liberty and security our soldiers fight for:

Lawyer for a Muslim Cleric Helps Him Relay Terrorist Messages

64 fed-up  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:40:36am

I just wanted to send my warmest regards and best wished to all my fellow vets out there - I'll raise one to you all tonight!

Darren
US Army '86-'94

65 mglazer  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:40:45am

Thank a Vet

Thanks to all who have served

You are greatness

You are those who sacrifice so that others can live

You risk your life for those you do not know

That is the greatest honor

You have my greatest admiration and respect

You are morality

You are America

Thank you

everyone go to your local VA and simply thank a vet

Saying thank you means something

66 Owl  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:41:01am

God Bless Our Troops.


My Dad was in the army, and my step Dad was a MARINE! :)


I have the greatest respect for those that serve us all, so that we can be free.

America is the land of the free, BECAUSE of the brave.

67 FrankNH  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:41:23am

President Bush is speaking now at Arlington Cemetery.

68 Azure  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:41:23am

I completely agree, Charles. Thank you.

#33 American Infidel
We saved a copy of that front page. It was also linked from Rush Limbaugh's site. The photo was fitting for the Marine Corps tribute and still is for Veterans' Day.

69 Blackeyed Pierce  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:41:45am

#17 American Infidel

So true.

70 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:41:57am

#62 right wing....

Regarding the pic....


Wow! Just wow. That brought tears to my eyes!

71 Wicksy  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:42:21am

Hear hear.

I express the same gratitude to all British Veterans on our Remembrance Day.

72 TMF  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:42:33am

THANKS VETS

Because of you we can sit here at our jobs and make our witty comments on LGF on our employer's dime without having to worry about getting our heads chopped off, waiting 10 hours in line for bread, or being thrown in prisoncamps for speaking our minds.

WE ARE NOTHING WITHOUT YOU. YOU ARE HEROES, AND WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN

73 Snake Plissken  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:42:51am

God Bless all veterans and those currently serving.

74 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:43:46am

Thank you for serving our country.

75 badgerbybirth  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:44:23am

On this Veterans' Day - read about Josh at hughhewitt's site. It was inspiring and these eyes are still tearing up. God Bless the Joshes of this world. May their legacy live on in all of us.

76 Ellen  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:44:31am

I just got back from a Veteran's Day celebration at the university where I work. It was a moving ceremony and I couldn't help but think of my father. He's 83 a veteran of World War II where he served in the Navy in the South Pacific island hopping campaign. The speaker at the event mentioned that he had heard about a college student who threated to move to Canada if the draft was reinstated since military service was "not in his plans" The speaker - a retired Colonel and Vietnam veteran mentioned that the people who died in the World Trade Center have no more plans.
I know that serving in a war was not my father's plan but he enlisted and did his duty. And I salute him and all other men and women who did and are doing theirs.

77 The Keeper  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:45:00am

Am I the only Naturalized Citizen who wishes we HAD a Selective Service still?

My dad was ready to go back in at 35! and later!

To make something out of lazy n'er do wells?
To give this country the help in some services that it needs?
Give some much needed pride in our Country and all the help we give?

Oh, sorry that would cut into every failed Democratic Assistance Plan ever conjured up by irresponsible Lefties, another words, a waste.

78 papijoe  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:45:10am

#16 paxnhymn

No worries, Kerry will be long forgotten while they are still reciting this:

"This day is called the feast of Crispian:
He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
Will stand a tip-toe when the day is named,
And rouse him at the name of Crispian.
He that shall live this day, and see old age,
Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
And say 'To-morrow is Saint Crispian:'
Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars.
And say 'These wounds I had on Crispin's day.'
Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot,
But he'll remember with advantages
What feats he did that day: then shall our names.
Familiar in his mouth as household words
Harry the king, Bedford and Exeter,
Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester,
Be in their flowing cups freshly remember'd.
This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remember'd;
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition:
And gentlemen in England now a-bed
Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day."

Henry V (Act 4, Scene III)


God Bless Our Vets!

79 sweetjane  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:46:35am

To all veterans: Thank you for the gift that keeps on giving: FREEDOM!. God bless you all!

80 Free Speech Is Only For über-Libs  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:46:42am

Indeed. I have nothing but humble respect for those who defend freedom. God Bless all veterans.

81 FlyingTigress  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:46:48am

To one of my two most beloved veterans this Veteran's Day....

K.G. Lindell, Col. USAF Retired.
USMA Class of Jan. 43.
C.O. 32nd F.S., 3rd F.G., 14th AAF
6/10/1919 -- 1/1/1981


Silver Star, Legion of Merit, Distinguished Flying Cross, Purple Heart, Air Medal (Bronze Oak Leaf cluster), Air Force Commendation Medal, Distinguished Unit Badge (Presidential Unit Citation), American Defense Service Medal, American Campaign Medal, Asiatic-Pacific Campaign Medal (3 bronze campaign stars), WW2 Victory Medal, National Defense Service Medal (with bronze star), Air Force Longevity Service Award (Silver Oak Leaf cluster), Breast Order of Yun Hui (Resplendent Banner among Clouds) with Rosette (Republic of China, Taiwan), Special Breast Order of Yun Hui (Resplendent Banner among Clouds) with Rosette (Republic of China, Taiwan). 4 Overseas service bars. Senior Command Pilot (USAF). Pilot: Nationalist Chinese Air Force. Expert rifleman. Honors graduate USMA.

Rest in Peace, Daddy. Someday, we'll raise a glass together.

82 Marine Momma  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:46:59am

Thank you to every single vet for keeping my freedom safe! I want to especially thank the vets who watched my Marines back when he was in Iraq. Love you guys :)

83 papijoe  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:47:42am

To all the heroes here at LGF who have served:

Please accept my gratitude to you for defending this country.

From me, who was so blind to your sacrifice for so many years.

From my wife who found a haven here from a corrupt and violent place.

From my daughter, who has a country she can be proud of because you served.

Thank you and God bless you!

84 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:48:24am

#81 FlyingTigress.....

Wow.

85 Zaideh  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:49:44am

#6 Vancomycin (I haven't read the entire thread.)
Bless your heart!
Is there a VA hospital in your area.
Lotta lonely guys in those buildings.

86 Curt  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:50:43am

20 years of sailing the world's oceans...thanks to you, the American tax payers.

I put my thank you letter to all of you (08/1972 to now) up on my blog...

You guys let me not quite grow up in some ways, but matured well beyond my peers in so many others.

Without your support to keep a paycheck going into my account, I wouldn't have come to know all the things I learned in the course of my duties, that has continued to enhance my life.

You guys ROCK! Thanks for your support (and, if I may, a shameless plug for my humble beginnings as a LGF inspired blogger can be seen

87 grapenut  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:51:04am

#58

WOW! That is one POWERFUL quote!

On a side note, it is my mom's birthday today; She has always been proud that she was born on Veteran's Day. In fact, my mom was given her name, Pamela, by her grandfather. My mom's mom gave him that honor because he was a veteran of WWI.

88 black_flag  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:51:23am

Charles,
Your Welcome.

89 AlphaMu42  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:51:24am

Thank you, to all the brave men and women who have served to preserve our freedom.

90 mad_scientist  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:52:04am

#57 Baldy

OT: Protest the Assualt (sic) on Fallujah TODAY, in Pittsburgh, 530PM at Forbes & Murray (Squirrel Hill).

Say it aint so!! I have to drive up that way to get home from work. Damn them moonbats, traffic will be so packed....if anyone shows up for it that is.

Maybe the college republicans will plan a counter demonstration. I saw quite a few of them out in Oakland, and CMU during the days before the election.

91 truthsword  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:52:12am

#85

My mom and dad always take cookies and other goodies to the VA Hospital my dad goes to here in West Virginia

92 Victoria (VA girl)  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:52:13am

I don't have the words to express my gratitude and feelings of appreciation. Thank you for your bravery, your dedication and your love for the United States.

Unfortunately, I never got the opportunity to thank my Dad for his service in the Army during the Vietnam War. I sure am proud of him.

Happy Veterans Day.

93 mglazer  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:52:49am

FIGHTING is BETTER THAN DYING

WE FIGHT SO WE AT LEAST CAN DIE TRYING RATHER THAN BEING HAPLESS VICTIMS


TO THOSE WHO FIGHT (FOR US ALL) WE SALUTE YOU!

94 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:52:52am
95 The Keeper  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:53:18am

Victoria, he knows, you just said it.

;)

...sounds like a great man........

:)

96 insane_kufr  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:53:19am

you're welcome. and I'd like to give a hearty THANKS to all vets as well, especially my Dad and 2 older brothers...AIRBORNE!!!

I'll be leaving for Qatar in 30 days - GUN FOR HIRE!!

I need the money!

97 alegrias  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:53:32am

Thank you vets everywhere for putting your lives on the line for our great nation. You're the best among us.

Thank you John O'Neill & Swiftees & POWs for sacrificing over there & then battling the MSM to remind us freedom isn't free & you all paid a heavy price for us to know the truth.

The truth shall set you free, and proclaimed it.

98 hunter888  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:54:17am

God Bless all who serve and those who have served. We will never forget your sacrifices.

99 'Nam Grunt  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:54:26am

I always have a little more of a spring in my step, and chest puffed out on this day each year, although I'm proud the other 364 days to have served my Country in an "Honorable" way. Special love to the fellow Vets on LGF, that have become friends, and a special admiration to my Dad (35 year Vet), that instilled the love of my Country in me, that motivated me to volunteer to serve and fight for my Country.

100 tedzilla99  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:54:30am

Thanks to all veterans, serving then and now...I appreciate all you've done!

[Link: boortz.com...]

101 Peter Gunn  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:54:50am

My mother was made a widow on November 3rd 1950 when elements of the 7th ID reached P'ungsan.

She was pregnant with her first child.

In addition to thanking our veterans today, I'd like to thank the families of those who serve and who make such sacrifices on our behalf.

102 Occasional Reader  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:55:28am

#83 papijoe: I'm sure you've mentioned this before, but I've forgotten; where is your wife from?

103 RightWingNutJob  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:56:05am

# 58 Dar ul Harb


Excellent! Thanks for the full quote. I heard it a long time ago from a veteran speaking on Fox. It does more to explain the war in Iraq than anything else I have read.

104 Barbara Skolaut  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:56:58am

Americans have the greatest FREEDOM and LIBERTY on earth, EVER.

Thanks to our military, who bought and preserve our freedom with their service, their blood, their lives.

We can NEVER repay them or thank them enough.

Thank you, all honorable veterans of ALL our wars, from the Revolution to the present. We owe you everything.

It is an honor to support you however we can.

105 Mark IV  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:57:49am

According to the Beeb, we are in big trouble in Falluja now, though.

Seems the entire US Army and Marine Corps are surrounded by 4 or 5 snipers and are being driven back, according to "their correspondents".

I love the discussion about whether using mini-guns on buildings is "appropriate", btw. This reminds me of our former Surgeon-Generalette's quest for "safer guns, and safer bullets". You just can't get more caring than that.

Thanks to all the "real" vets out there.

My service was a friggin' party compared to getting shot at. My C-in-C was dating Arafat and micro-managing rescue ops, instead of sending perfectly good armored divisions into Tehran when we had the chance. Thank god we have a prez with some balls now.


US Army (3AD) '77-'80

106 ghost ryder  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:58:46am

As an 11 year US Navy vet that participated in GW1, I thank the people like all of you that have shown us Vets support in so many ways over the years. It's knowing that there were people like you at home that made it a little bit easier to be away from my home for months at a time, doing my duty to protect this great nation.

To all of the current and former members of our armed forces, wherever you are, God Bless you for standing up for us.

107 dustyroadguy  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:58:46am

Thank You Veterans

108 Terp Mole  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:59:23am

Veterans for [ap]Peace[ment] and their new recruits Iraq Veterans Against the War-- offered comfort to our enemies from UMd's Ivory Tower before rallying to denigrate the sacrifice of our honored wounded at Walter Reed Medical Center this morning (as they did last year), presumably because they still believe "our" wounded are being held captive at Walter Reed.

109 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:59:35am

To all who have proudly worn the uniform of the United States, my deepest respect and thanks. Bless you all.

110 mommydoc  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:00:44am

There are not words enough to express my thanks to all the US veterans who have secured and maintained our freedom and the freedom of many around the world (whether they recognize it or are grateful for it) through their blood, sweat, tears and very lives. The sacrifices our military and their families make on a daily basis is nothing short of amazing.

An American Soldier

111 Catttt  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:01:58am

Marine Sniper T Shirt

Perhaps a present for that LLL friend? :)

112 Nancy  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:02:42am

As the great granddaughter, granddaughter, daughter, niece, cousin and mother-in-law of veterans who have served in every war and conflict since the civil war (my family was not here before that) I consider it a day of rememberance to those who did, who are and who will.

#6 --there is no reason why you can't drop something off at the local VFW. In fact, many of the VFW and American Legion posts will often have a memorial service at 11 AM.

Besides, many of them have bars open to the public! There's a suggestion, anyone who wants to celebrate Arafat's death tonight, do so at your local VFW -American Legion bar!

113 alegrias  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:02:43am

Thank a soldier that little Iraqi children said "I love you America" and one said he wanted to be an American in the movie "Voices of Iraq."

See this--our troops are fighting the good fight and we will change the world with their sacrifice.

114 papijoe  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:03:17am

#99 'Nam Grunt

Hope you have the:

Best. Veteran's Day. Evah!


#101 Peter Gunn

I was doing a good job keeping the waterworks under control on a very emotional day. Until I read your post.

I'm sure that soldier standing guard in Heaven is mighty proud.


#102 Occasional Reader

She's from Colombia. Compared to her, I'm a liberal.

115 Darleen  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:03:18am

I give my thanks and rememberances here. No words can every express my gratitude to the men and women of yesterday, today and tomorrow who serve.

My great uncle, Ray, served with the Marines
My dad, Dave, served with the Army 11th Airborne
My uncle, Dallas, served in the Airforce
My uncle, Bob, served in the Navy

Thank you.

116 Geepers  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:03:41am

Here's a couple of incredibly clear thinking articles by Joe Fulwiler.


10. Repeat after me, "I will never again nominate a Massachusetts liberal."

You better learn this lesson because you just got spanked by the Republicans' B-team. If you think Bush laid the hurt on you, just wait until Giuliani gets through with you. Unlike Bush, he can speak English. And he'll carry New York. You do the math.

It’s Not About Jesus It’s Explaining America to confused Europeans

So, now, European friends, does it make sense? If not, we really are sorry. We want to be on the same page with you. Honestly. But we aren't going to sit here and wait for the next attack. That attack could take out the financial center of the world and thrust us all into prolonged and severe hardship and degrade our ability to finance our military and fight. We must fight now. We are going to go take out our enemies in order to protect ourselves. In the process, we'll be affording you some protection also because you are on their target list too. You could at least thank us. Or get out of the way.
117 nuclady  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:03:46am

To all vets, past, present, and future: thank you for freedom, thank you for your sacrifice, thank you for your valor, bravery, and utmost courage. Thank you for the shining light that you represent so that Americans like me can be free!

118 FlyingTigress  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:04:54am

To our current service personnel, and those who've worn the uniform honorably...

"Well Done" and God bless.

You "make us proud" each and every day.

Kris L.

119 Carolina Girl  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:05:19am

Thank you all, past and present - and may God bless you, watch over you and keep you.

120 Zaideh  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:05:47am

Charles and fellow LGFers.
I'm going to presume to speak on behalf of my fellow vets.

We accept with humility your words of gratitude.
But we also thank all of you for having made our service worthwhile.
The endless war between good & evil occasionally requires that some of us pick up arms for a time.
But those who remain behind also have a duty.
That duty was shirked during the Viet Nam era.
It hurt.
That all of you have re-discovered the long abandoned values that once graced this country more than makes up for the angry years.
I thank you. I salute you.
May God continue to bless you and this wonderful nation.

Here's a group hug for my band of brothers.
I love you all.

121 Asher Abrams  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:06:59am

81/tigress,

Beautiful. Got tears in my eyes reading that. Thanks to you and your father.

122 Al di Grandpa  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:07:07am

Of all the labels assigned to me...the one that trumps them
all: Veteran

(Although 'Grandpa' comes close.)

May God hold all our veterans, living and dead, in his loving arms.

And may God bless all our men and women serving the United States of America around the globe.

They truly are the best of the best.

Al di Grandpa

123 arkroyal  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:07:18am

God Bless Every One Of You.

124 Occasional Reader  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:07:33am

#144 papijoe:

She's from Colombia. Compared to her, I'm a liberal.

I just got back from her beautiful (if troubled) country last night! Indeed, I've noticed Colombians to be notably more anti-idiotarian than most other Latin Americans. They have a pretty clear idea what terrorism really means. When some Colombians do start sniping at Bush, I can usually get them to at least stop and think by saying, "look, Bush is our Uribe. Get it?".

125 papijoe  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:08:21am

{{{{{{{{{Zaideh}}}}}}}}}

126 traveler  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:09:01am

#120 Zaideh

Right back 'atcha, Zaideh.

127 Blackeyed Pierce  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:10:13am

A Marine Doc. A future Vet.
Brouse his blogroll.
[Link: docinthebox.blogspot.com...]

128 papijoe  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:11:12am

#124 Occasional Reader

&iexclNo hoda! &iquestVerdad?


Bogota?

129 Darleen  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:11:42am

(((((((((((((Zaideh))))))))))

130 'Nam Grunt  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:12:42am

Thanks Zaideh, love ya' Brother.

131 PostalWorker  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:12:54am

God bless all our troops in the field and those who went before them. God bless the families of the fallen.

Thank you Vets for your sacrifice and willingness to do your duty and more. There is no way we can repay you.

132 Roark  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:14:07am

Originally posted on the thread for wacko carter, but here it is for anyone who should want to read my essay from the proper thread.

133 kathyn  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:14:49am

To my:
Uncle Joe-WW II medic in the Navy, was a medic on Tarawa, etc.
Uncle Arnold-WWII-Navy Pacific Theater
Uncle LaVere-WWII- Navy Pacific Theater
Uncle Alf- Merchant Marines WWII Pacific
Brother Barry- 20 year Navy veteran-Chief Warrant Officer-served in the Pacific
Husband Hank- served in Army 6 years- guided missiles and Viet Nam
Uncle LaMar-WWII Air Force
And many others who served in the Revolutionary War and the Civil War from my husband's family

THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR SACRIFICES.

134 Ed Moran abu GOMEX aob 26.5C  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:15:10am

A real hero, and my friend.


A couple of months before I went to Great Lakes, I spent about a week visiting John at his parents vacation home in West Palm Beach.


I found out he was dead by seeing his picture in 'Newsweek'.

135 FlyingTigress  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:15:15am

{{{{{{{{{Zaideh, and vets}}}}}}}}}

136 bellamags  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:16:33am

I love you dad and thanks for serving in Vietnam. I never understood, but I do now.

John Kerrys defeat was your homecoming.


Aimee

137 Muledriver  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:17:43am
These, in the day when heaven was falling,
The hour when Earth's foundations fled,
Followed their mercenary calling
And took their wages and are dead.

Their shoulders held the sky suspended;
They stood, and earth's foundations stay;
What God abandoned, these defended,
And saved the sum of things for pay.

To my fellow vets: Thank you.

To my fellow Marines: Thank you & Happy Birthday

And, although this is Veteran's Day, I 'd also like to thank those who didn't serve but supported those who did. There are many times when we would not have survived without your support and prayers.

Semper Fi.

138 Occasional Reader  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:18:40am

#128 papijoe:

Bogota?

Yep. I was supposed to go to Cali, too, but didn't have time. All work, no play, unfortunately.

And speaking of veterans, there were several fit, grim-looking American dudes with Southern accents and short haircuts on my flight home. Gee, I wonder what they were doing there... Green Beanies plus lots of Galil rifles, helping to squelch terrorism in Colombia.

139 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:19:26am

Browsing Yahoo's images, I see that today is also Poland's Independence Day holiday.

Happy Birthday Poland!

140 kathyn  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:20:42am

#50 Thank you so much for that link. That's such a tender story. I'm choked up.

141 Blackeyed Pierce  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:20:42am

#120 Zaideh

Thank you! *sniff* You guys deserve all the support we can give you.

142 Beagle  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:20:52am

#120 Zaideh

Moving words, much appreciated.

To our vets and serving military: you are my heroes. I don't idealize athletes or actors (especially actors). But I know from my father and grandfather what you go through. I don't know what to say but heartfelt thanks. And that you are the most effective military, both in destruction and avoiding unnecessary destruction, that has ever existed.

All our freedoms exist because of those who faught and died for them.

143 Occasional Reader  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:21:55am

#134 Ed Moran: Are you still in touch with his folks? Please thank them for us.

144 Cousin Dave  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:23:39am

I live every day with the realization that I likely owe my own life to someone in uniform who has taken a bullet to protect me, and that I shall not know in this life who that person is. I hope that in the next life, I will meet that person and be able to repay the favor somehow.

145 Iron Fist  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:24:12am

I want to express my deepest gratitude to all veterans who have sacrificed so much to help keep this nation safe and strong. Most especially to those who have given their lives in service to this country both in war and in peace.

No words suffice, but we all owe you. Without you, none of this would exist. The Shining City on the Hill would have been pulled down long ago.

146 Dale43  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:24:24am

Our vets and our soldiers now fighting understood one thing and it was well said in 'Braveheart':
"When you get to the end of your life, would you exchange one moment from this day to that for one chance to come back here and tell our enemies that you may take our lives but you can never take our freedom."

I thankyou you all for your service, your love of country, and being the men and women you are.

Well done.
You humble all of us.

147 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:24:32am

#132 Roark

Just to add on to your post - it is great to see honor, duty, and commitment is still alive -

During Hurricane Isabel, sentries guarding the Tomb of the Unknowns remained at their posts.

The Regimental Commander of the U.S. Third Infantry sent word to the nighttime Sentry Detail to secure the post and seek shelter from the high winds, to ensure their personal safety. THEY DISOBEYED THE ORDER. During winds that turned over vehicles and turned debris into projectiles . . . the measured step continued. One fellow said "I've got buddies getting shot at in Iraq who would kick my butt if word got to them that we let them down . . . I'm sure as hell have no intention of spending my Army career being known as the idiot who couldn't stand a little light breeze and shirked his duty
148 RightWingNutJob  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:25:14am

What a day of contrasts:

In Europe they are honoring the passing of the human obscenity, Yasser Arafat.

In America we are honoring the lives and memory of the most noble human beings ever to walk the earth.

Was the depravity of the "world community" ever more evident than today?

149 The Keeper  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:25:28am

#111 cattt

Nice link!
Just went and got that t-shirt and a bunch of other items too, gifts for friends who served, and myself!

I like the Iwo Jima pins I bought the best!

Semper Fi!

150 Got_truth  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:25:37am

Thank you to my Grandfather - Robert Sidney Pipkin, that servied during WWII as a Navy Seabee in the Pacific.

Thank you to my uncles Art Pipkin (USN), Gary Pipkin (USAF). My counsins Dennis Newman Pipkin (US Army) and Frank Newman Pipkin (US Army), that served in Vietnam and that I never had a chance to meet.

Thank you to my cousins Earl Pipkin and Art Pipkin Jr, who both served in the USN.

- SN Maldonado- (USN) 94-96

151 The Keeper  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:26:41am

#147

THAT is what Honor and Duty are all about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sniff...........

snap salute

152 Zaideh  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:28:27am

Al Di Grandpa
"(Although 'Grandpa' comes close.)"

LOL...ain't that the truth!
Mine call us "Puppah" And "Meema".
Hence my nic.
Puppah + a Yiddishe nephesh = Zaideh

153 Cousin Dave  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:28:47am

#105 Mark IV:

US Army (3AD) '77-'80

Ouch. The Carter years. I feel for you. I'm sometimes asked by liberal chickenhawks why I didn't serve. There's the answer: class of '78. If I had enlisted, my body could be very well a pile of dust at Desert One by now. Glad you survived it.

154 JAT  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:28:53am

God Bless our troups! May they always be strong.

155 Occasional Reader  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:28:58am

#120 Zaideh: A beautiful response!

That all of you have re-discovered the long abandoned values that once graced this country more than makes up for the angry years.

I'm probably somewhat typical here: I was raised in the post-Vietnam years, and subjected to relentless media indoctrination that the war had been completely unjust, the use of US power was unfair, US servicemen were often psychotic killers, etc. At the same time, this all just seemed wrong to me, based on what I learned of history and also the values imparted to me by my parents (including my US Army veteran dad). So, for instance, during the Reagan years, I was pulled between the standard "look what the crazy cowboy is doing now" zeitgeist, and a gut feeling that our guys were probably doing the right thing.

That ambivalence is long gone. I regard our armed forces today with untarnished pride, and, yes, a little bit of envy.

156 The Keeper  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:30:00am

The Flags of every branch of service, including Seabees, Seals, the 101, the 82nd, the Coast Guard etc. all hang in my warehouse and have been for a while.

POW's and MIA flags, of course, too.
Never forget.

I celebrate our Veterans and my Freedom every day I walk in to warehouse and offices.

I love the sight.

Also Historical flags, like the one that flew over Fort Sumpter, and of course..............'Don't Tread On Me".

:)

157 Mark IV  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:32:00am

I wish I could thank them now for their service and the example they set:

My dad... antiaircraft gunner, Normandy D+3 to the 'skirts of the Bulge and Eschwegge with the 1st Army.

Uncle Bill... infantry platoon leader, Korea.

Uncle Dave... 3 tours Nam, 2 as fighter pilot and last as forward air control in a Cessna.

They would all have enjoyed Nov. 2. Bottoms up, wherever you are. Dave, you'd best step outside to light that cigar.

158 Pronghorn  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:33:20am

Thanks to all Veterans - and a special hoorah to Alpha & Bravo companies, 1/509th Airborne, serving in Iraq attached to the 10th Mountain Div. Geronimo!!

159 doppelganglander  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:33:23am

A big thank you to all our veterans. I get very proud and choked up just thinking about what you have done for us.

160 Roark  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:33:36am

147 -

awesome addition, and just like them to think and act in that manner!

161 Impi  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:35:27am

In South Africa, as with Britain, Australia, New Zealand and Canada, it is known as Remembrance Day, and it's important to us too (we invented the two-minute silence), though it's more similar to Memorial Day.

So, let me take the opportunity to salute all those men and women who made the ultimate sacrifice in the defence of a free and just world. They fought, and died, for a people who all too often forget the sacrifice they made.
What makes this day so special is that it's a day for us to say thank you. It is a day for us to tell those who fell that we shall never forget them, nor shall we forget their actions.

Today is also a day in which we are given the opportunity to thank those veterans who lived through the horror of war, and returned to their countries expecting neither gratitude nor praise, but merely a solemn respect and understanding. Respect for those who saw what none of us would ever wish to see, yet pushed on because they believed in things more powerful than fear, such as love and freedom; and understanding of the horrors they faced, the risks they took, and the decisions they made. In short, it's a desire to not be stabbed in the back by the society they risked it all to save.

What we owe to these men and women, both alive and dead, is so great that we shall never be able to repay them. Yet, the least we can do, as individuals and as a society, is treat them with the respect and understanding they deserve, regardless of our personal feelings on the war in which they fought.

Most of all, we must promise to never forget.

162 VoBan  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:36:35am

Please take a visit through the Arlington sight) to reflect. Thanks to everyone who served, especially my father-in law (air traffic control, Korea), my two uncles (infantry, WWII Germany), and my brother, Colonel P.J.R. (USAF= F-4, Vietman, and C-130, Gulf War).

163 'Nam Grunt  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:37:05am

'Nam Vets were vindicated when "hanoi john" was defeated, (there is a God), to the 2.5 million 'nam Vets I salute you my brothers, we carried a heavy burden for years, now it has been lifted. Thank you America for backing us, you don't even know how much we love you! To the Brave Men fighting in Iraq we are behind you 110%, give 'em hell. To the 18 Brave men that have given the ultimate sacrifice for their Country in Fallujah, to date, I love you with all my heart and soul!

164 pa_infidel  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:37:37am

THANK YOU

165 LadyBird  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:37:53am

Thank you Vets! You are the finest of the finest, the best of the best. Thank you from a very grateful nation.
God Bless.

166 Mark IV  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:38:18am

#105

Thanks, but the only thing I really "survived" was the extreme liver damage that only a peacetime cold warrior stationed in Germany can know. That, and driving the autobahn in winter in an open topped M151A2. Hint: stay well to the right.

The Carter years were the low point of the military and it showed. I actually went to see him address the Germans in downtown Frankfurt... can't say the experience left me very fired up.

God bless Ronald Reagan. If my service had been up a year later, I woulda probably re-upped.

167 Scorch  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:38:46am

Salute to all fellow Vets, past, present and future!

168 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:39:04am
169 Beagle  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:39:35am

#155 Occasional Reader

You and I are probably about the same age. I know where you are coming from. When I used to think the next war would be a massive nuclear exchange I didn't consider a career in the military. Boy, was I stooopid!

I especially agree with this,

I regard our armed forces today with untarnished pride, and, yes, a little bit of envy.


If anyone is familiar with the Royal C. Johnson (congressman, Attorney General of South Dakota, DSC winner, four battlefield promotions in WWI) Veterans Memorial Hospital in Sioux Falls South Dakota, that's my grandfather. He was one of the leaders in organizing military pensions and benefits into what we now call the Veterans Administrations.

170 artboy  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:40:02am

Thanks Uncle Fred US Army WWII

You may be a cranky old bastard - but you are an admired cranky old bastard!

171 Connecticut Yankee  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:41:24am

Mackubin Thomas Owen has a fine tribute to our veterans at NRO: "Where Do We Find Such Men?"

So pray for our servicemen in Fallujah today and for the souls of those who have given the last full measure. May they rest in peace. Happy birthday, Marines. Semper fi. And to all veterans, God bless you and thank you for your service. And may you live long, sweet lives.

[Link: www.nationalreview.com...]

Some things in the military change, like technology. One of my great-great-great grandfathers on my mother's side of the family served in the Union Army at Gettysburg-- as a blacksmith in a cavalry unit. I can't imagine what he would think of the equipment that our soldiers are using in Fallujah. Even my dad (82nd Airborne, WWII) would not recognize some of the latest weaponry. But one thing will never change, God willing-- the fighting spirit of the men and women in the American military.

To all the veterans on this thread-- God bless you all, and God bless America.

172 The Keeper  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:42:41am

#162
Nice post and link!
Thanks!

173 dy/dx  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:42:51am

Wow--

I just went to Hugh Hewitt's site and read about an incredible hero named Josh Palmer. It was mentioned in two prior posts, but his story is so inspiring that I thought I'd "bump" his mentioning so others can read, weep, and be inspired.

He was a truly great man. May he inspire the creation of other great men.

God blessed him. And us through him.

dy/dx

174 fed-up  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:45:01am

Nice Zaideh, thank you for putting it into words much better than I think I could.

175 Techie  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:45:03am

To all Veterans past, present and future.

Thank you.

176 Death Before Dhimmitude  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:45:19am

Thank you to my buddies still in the fight, and those who gave all...

I'll never forget.

177 grayp  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:45:58am

Happy Vets day to all our vets but also to their families who also serve (waves at militarybrat!)

And especially to Dad, B26 pilot, awarded DFC in 1944.
Rest in Peace, Daddy, you are sorely missed.

178 realwest  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:46:25am

#62 Right Wing Conspirator - perfect photo for today.
120 Zaideh great post - I'm going to lunch with what's left of my particular band of brothers and - shocking, I know - but we're not waiting for the sun to sink over the yardarm - our drinking will start shortly
To all others, a small refrain from a Crosby Stills & Nash Song titled "Daylight Again" (written by Stills in 1968, the bones in blue are from the "Civil War") but they still ring with truth:

" I think I see a valley.......
covered with bones in blue...
All the brave soldiers who cannot grow older
they been....asking after you.

Do we find the cost of Freedom, buried in the ground?
Mother Earth will swallow you, lay your body down."

To all who wrote such wonderful tributes, thank you.


And to Charles, especially, thank you.

179 The Real Travis  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:46:50am

I want to thank all of the brave military men throughout the history of the USA, but in particular, my father - US Navy, Korean War, 1951-1953. He was rarely in harm's way, yet provided the necessary behind the scenes support that often goes unrecognized.

I also want to give a shout-out to my cousin Dave, Navy Seal, GW1 and Bosnia (Navy in Bosnia - who knew?). Often in harm's way, rarely speaks of it.

Last, a salute to my cousin Ted, USAF pilot, GW1 and post GW1 no-fly zone enforcement. Often shot at, never hit.

180 Luigi  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:47:23am

OT -- Did Arafat die of the Bush re-election?

Threats of mass suicides. Actors collapsing on the set. Suicide at the WTC.

Was it the Bush re-election that stripped Arafat of the will to go on? Was it the re-election that killed him?

I don't remember if he was hopitalized before Election Day. Anyone remember?

181 cossack pig  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:48:39am

Thank you Charles for remembering today is more than the day to buy furniture, and Thanks to all my brothers and sisters who served and are serving!

182 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:49:15am

God bless those who have served. We're free because of them.

Looks like some Americans have forgotten this though:

Westwood Anti-Occupation Demonstration Pictures

Despite the one-day notice, about 400-500 people turned out to protest the day after the start of the second U.S. attack on the people of Fallujah. Mysteriously, two tanks arrived and were immediately surrounded by chanting demonstrators.

Mysterious my ass. They were protesting at a VA center and a parade was planned the next day for the Marine Corps Birthday and Veteran's Day. LLL would rather think its a conspiracy though.

183 StreetCafe  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:49:15am

My deepest, heartfelt thanks to all veterans.

184 Goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:50:12am

For all the freedoms and opportunities my family and I enjoy, thank you, veterans.

My small town here in Western PA is a university town, and we have an annual Veterans' Day parade. A cannon fires at 11 AM, "Taps" is played, and the univesirty's and local school districts' bands play. Scout troops march carrying flags, and veterans and Gold Star mothers pass in cars. This years there was a special helicoptor fly over by the Army Reserve.

The stillness of the crowd--even the yooung children--in honor of those who served is so moving. My heart is filled with gratitude and humility.

185 zombie  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:50:34am

Here's a real conundrum for you:

My father not only served 4 years in WWII, in combat most of the time, he also served 2 years in the Korean War. And yet, after all that, he is now a full-fledged Moonbat Extreme. So on one hand I've got to honor him, and on the other he drives me insane with his anti-Bush ranting. It's a terrible dilemma, let me tell you.

Though by his own admission, he was one of those scoundrels in WWII always up to no good. When he wasn't dodging bullets or storming Italian strongholds, he was commandeering empty troop transports to bring in truckloads of prostitutes, or setting up illicit casinos in the back of the barracks.

The reality of veterans is sometimes a bit more complicated than the history books would have us believe.

186 Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:50:50am

God bless and keep our troops the world over, and thank you to all LGFers who have served or are serving in the Armed Forces!

Completely OT - Check out the Online Etymological Dictionary! A person could just sit for hours and look up the history of words!

187 The Keeper  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:51:28am

Here is a soldier!
[Link: community.webshots.com...]
[Link: community.webshots.com...]

69 decorations, WW1 and II.
My best friend's Grandfather, the most decorated Army serviceman, a shaprshooter, in 'Ripley's' as well........

Eddie, my mate, served in Vietnam, upholding his family tradition, as Eddie's dad was Lifetime Serviceman too, a Sarge.

The hardest kill he told us was...........
when a soldier went berserk in a tower at a POW camp, was shooting everyone, they called him in because the soldier was protected up high, he had to take out an American soldier, that, albeit, went crazy from too many battles and saw too much.
He never got over that 'kill' he said.

Good man, buried in San Antonio, a man who served well in many wars!

188 JHW  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:51:43am

# Thanks to all our vets, to me especially 2 that are gone, father 8th Air Force, WW2, brother Co. `A`4th Battalion 47th Infantry, 9th Infantry Division VN 68-69.Also a grateful remembrance to our comrades-in-arms through many wars from the UK, Ausralia and Canada.

189 FlyingTigress  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:52:04am

#163

A-men, 'Grunt.

I'd have loved to have been able to see the look on my face when one of my moonbat-ish co-workers asked if the display (of my father's decorations -- NOT including either the salvaged D-ring from his 'chute pack on 18 Apr 45, but including the F.S. patch from the unit who 'flew' Daddy's 'Flying Tiger' patch and c. 1960 flight suit name patch on a Noble Eagle mission over Crawford, TX) in my cubicle was John sKerry's.

I felt like responding "No. That's from someone from the heart of red-state America (Opal, WY) who displayed REAL heroism, and took a chest full and leg full of AAA and aircraft parts shrapnel one morning -- and kept on fighting."

'Grunt....VN vets....70s vets...I was too young back then to thank you, and tell you that some of us knew then that you served with honor.

190 Clutch  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:52:12am

Thank you and God bless all of our vets and that includes those of our allies in the UK and Australia! Job well done!

Boortz has a nice little collection of places to contribute to our troops if you are so inclinded. Go here.

God bless and rest you, dad, B. A. Shipley USAF Lt. Col. 1919-1993. It has been over 10 years since you went to the "Big Airbase In The Sky" and I still miss you. He shares the same section in Arlington as those killed in the Pentagon attack.

Reading my salvaged, WWII-era copy of Ernie Pyle's "Brave Men"; his account of the invasion of Italy. Found it in a box of old books that were water-damaged in a flood. Very appropriate today and is well worth the read. (Try Amazon for copies since even the reprint is long out of print).

191 Azure  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:53:06am

I re-found a link I discovered yesterday. Here is a better image of that wonderful photo of a Marine in article from the Portsmouth Herald [NH] 11-10-04
[Link: www.seacoastonline.com...]

Hugs to Zaideh and all the others who have served our country so well.

192 Havoc  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:54:09am

DO NOT miss Blackfive's Multi-part Veteran's Day Series

Particularly his Repost of Mike Royko's 1997 Chicago Trib. Column

Part 5 Those Left Behind - link to military wife Venemous Kate's farewell to a freind

Part 11 - I'm Just doing my Job here - e-mail Nov. 9 from Iraq

193 mglazer  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:56:45am

To the Vets of all the noble countries with the courage to face the evil scourge of our time with steadfastness and resolve

"He Ain't Heavy He's My Brother"

[Link: www.rare-lyrics.com...]

America
Britain
Australia
Russia
Poland
Israel
...

194 Craig Abu Al-Boo-Boo  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:57:00am

God bless all of America's veterans and the veterans to be.

195 Nancy  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:57:17am

We owe no apologies to Europe. Ever.

Each cross represents an American who died for them and never returned to American soil.

Never Forget.

[Link: cobalt.junct.com...]

196 TotallySirius  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:57:20am

Thanks to all who served and are still serving.

We owe you everything

197 Pronghorn  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:58:27am

#105 Mark IV

Was a great day when Reagan took office, I think most of my unit hated Carter beyond belief at that time, I still do.

A co. 1/509th Airborne Jan. 1979 - Nov. 80
Recon plt. 1/509th Airborne Nov. 80 - Aug. 82

198 AZ Lizard Kisser  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:59:07am

DID ANYONE JUST SEE FOX?!

R. Lee Ermey was on in his dress uniform, addressing the troops worldwide...and then he says something like...

"Let me tell you something about Arafat's death: it's the first thing the French have done RIGHT!"

Almost fell outta my chair laughing in agreement.

Hats off to you fellow vets out there from an old Desert Storm flyboy.

199 VoBan  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:59:09am

# 187 The Keeper

Good God! Even if Kevlar vests had been around, he wouldn't have needed it. Now that is what should be called a full metal jacket! Just incredible.

200 Sapper  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:59:22am

You're welcome. ;)

201 Dashing Dasher  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:59:29am

Vets,
Thank you for the freedoms I use everyday.

202 Connecticut Yankee  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:00:28am

Here is a link to the President's official proclamation of Veterans Day 2004: [Link: www.whitehouse.gov...]

Across America, there are more than 25 million veterans. Their ranks include generations of citizens who have risked their lives while serving in military conflicts, including World War II, Korea, Vietnam, the Persian Gulf, and the war on terror. They have fought for the security of our country and the peace of the world. They have defended our founding ideals, protected the innocent, and liberated the oppressed from tyranny and terror. They have known the hardships and the fears and the tragic losses of war. Our veterans know that in the harshest hours of conflict they serve just and honorable purposes.

Through the years, our veterans have returned home from their duties to become active and responsible citizens in their communities, further contributing to the growth and development of our Nation. Their commitment to service inspires all Americans.

Thank God that W will be the CiC for another four years.

203 truthsword  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:01:38am

# 198

I was racing in here to my computer to come here and ask about that.... I was in another room and heard that same quote on FOX.... LOL

Once again... it is Veterans like that who keep us free :)

204 fed-up  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:02:21am

'Nam Vet, and others from that war, no words can ever describe the deep debt of gratitude which we owe you. Yours was a major battle in the war to defeat communism and God knows you did not get the support you needed. I had a 1SG in Germany who was a Nam vet and many of the younger guys in the unit really had no idea what that war was like, having heard the liberal version of it during their "education." He took the time to explain it as best he could, and opened a lot of eyes.

You have been partly vindicated by the defeat of the traitor, and the legacy of you and your fellow 'Nam vets if being rewritten by those who have refuted their parents '60's views on the war - and it's about time. To you, my uncle (door-gunner) and my step-dad (13B), may your history be written correctly this time.

Darren

205 VP45  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:02:51am

I would like to remember and give thanks to my grandmothers father who died from mustard gas poisoning during WW1 and her husband my grandfather who served five years and survived WW2.
I would also like to give thanks to my father who is a Veteran of the Korean War and a survivor of the attacks on the World Trade Center.

God Bless and Thank you!

206 royaloakdad13  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:03:11am

God bless all our brave veterans. We're nothing without you, and all good Americans know it. Bless you boys!

207 The Keeper  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:06:37am

Thanks #199 VoBan

His Grandson did well in 'nam, as a medic on a chopper.

ALL he did was fly in to save wounded soldiers, in full fire, firing himself, drag his buddies aboard, and get the heck out!!!!

He has some of the best stories........saving his brothers.
Sitting on your helmet, and watching the new grunts ask why, until a bullet hits them in the arse!
Wish I could have helped, but I just missed it............

208 Fast Eddie  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:08:23am

Thanks Charles, and all LGF posters.

I was only a draftee REMF clerk in Korea 1970-71, but I can say that the Army I was in was nowhere near as capable as the one we have today.

My thanks also to all who wear the uniform, or who ever wore it in the past (even my fellow REMFs.)

209 retired_colonel  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:08:38am

My sincere thanks and reverence for those who have served before me...special recognition to my grandfather (WWI) and father (WWII).
A personal moment of reflection, and profound continued sadness at the loss of my college 'roomie', and all too short-lived husband and father to grown children who never knew him:
William Penn Wall, III (Known to us as 'Bink')
2LT - O1 - Army - Reserve
101st Airborne Division
24 year old Married, Caucasian, Male
Born on Jan 02, 1946
From TEKOA, WASHINGTON
His tour of duty began on Jan 24, 1970
Casualty was on Apr 01, 1970
in THUA THIEN, SOUTH VIETNAM
HOSTILE, GROUND CASUALTY
ARTILLERY, ROCKET, or MORTAR
Body was recovered

And my personal thanks to all of you for which I spent nearly 30 years serving with great pride...you are the ones that make it truly worthwhile.

210 Elcid  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:09:14am

Veteran's

My deepest and heartfelt respect for your honor and courage.....past, present and those of the future.

May the families of those serving and those of the lost, gain in strength from your lead.

You have shown the way and for that, all of us, even those that can NOT see and understand you, gain from your service and sacrifice.

Thank you and may God Bless you, now and always.

211 LibraryGryffon  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:09:57am
IN FLANDERS FIELDS the poppies blow
Between the crosses row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.

Lt. Col John McCrea, MD (1872-1918)
Canadian Army

212 nuclady  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:10:20am

#156 The Keeper

Thank you for that post. I remember wearing my POW and MIA bracelets up to my elbows.

213 Connecticut Yankee  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:11:47am

Not so far OT: Captain's Quarters has a link to a news item about canisters of Sarin nerve gas (which is very nasty stuff) being found in Fallujah:

According to NPR's Anne Garrels, a reporter embedded with a Marine unit in Fallujah, the Marines found a suitcase filled with cannisters labeled "sarin nerve gas." You can listen to her report here. [link] No word yet on how many cannisters were found or the origin of said weapons. Looks like some of Saddam's "nonexistent" WMDs didn't make it to Syria after all. (Hmm . . perhaps they did leave the country but have been imported back.)

I'm not surprised the terrorists had a nerve agent. I'm only confounded by the fact they didn't either use the weapons against the Marines or take them with while fleeing the city. Must have been in a real rush to get out of there. Or they have more stashed away somewhere.

Prayers for the safety of our troops.

[Link: www.captainsquartersblog.com...]

214 imtoast  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:13:20am

I live in the greatest country in the world, made that way by all of you. Thank you all who have served, are serving and will serve.

Linda

215 The Keeper  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:13:21am

#212
aw shucks and tanx!

....I always considered those bracelets more than a 'fashion statement'.

;)


check out my buddy's granddad at #187!

216 VoBan  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:13:32am

#208 Fast Eddie
What do you mean, only? It may not seem glamorous or romantic in retrospect, but all jobs need to be done to keep the machine alive. Thank you!

217 Truth Junkie  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:13:41am

Thanks to all vets. I just wish I could write something as inspiring as I have seen here.

My family's vets:
Grandfather William A. Hatch (Navy, WWII)
Uncle William A. Hatch Jr. (Navy Seal, later Navy Chaplain, now Army Chaplain: Cold War, GW1)
Cousin Douglas Hatch (Army)
Uncle Charlie (USMC - Korea)
Dad (National Guard - Watts riots)
Brother James (Air Force)
Brother Mike (Army)
Sister Beth (Air Force)


Note: I take it as a compliment that I keep getting mistaken for a military person because I love the people / history / mission of our military so much.

218 Lyana  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:14:17am

My girls and I just got back from a Rememberance Day ceremony at a Korean War memorial. I was surprised at what made me cry - it was hearing children sing the Korean National Anthem. Because my next thought was that maybe, years from now, I'll be able to be at a ceremony where I'll hear the National Anthems of Iraq and Afghanistan, the veterans of our nations standing side-by-side.

The freedom South Korea enjoys derives from the same source as that of Afghanistan and Iraq - the blood of those who were willing to give themselves for the freedom of others.

With each picture I see of our troops, I wish there were some way that person could know how grateful I am for them and their sacrifice. That I see the determination in their eyes and know that my daughters will be safe. That I will always wonder if they will come home or were asked to make the ultimate sacrifice.

We will never forget - we owe everything we enjoy to our veterans. Thank you.

219 Wrathofg-d  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:14:31am

AMEN!

From Bunker Hill to Baghdad.....I thank you for your service.

G-d Bless our Vets & G-d Bless America.

220 Havoc  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:15:19am

Wretchard at The Belmont Club outlines the Sunni "Ho-Chi-Min Trail"

and pursuit and blocking actions suggesting Ramadi is next.

In other news do you think they could spare an HC-130 Spectre to use on Mosul ?

221 'Nam Grunt  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:16:26am

I must say that to all of you Vets that were cooks, supply, clerks, and all of the other support Soldiers, combat Vets could not have done our job without you, you were the guys we loved so much, with the clean uniforms and fresh socks, etc, not to mention the wonderful supply of ammo and once in awhile hot meals you sent us, God Bless you guys.

222 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:16:30am
223 Paul  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:17:55am

First, a salute to my late uncles, Joseph Kenna and John Goulding who served in the ETO during WWII. They both came home, married, raised families, worked and lived to ripe old ages.

Second, a salute to my high school classmates, Wes McLean, Thomas Jackson and Pickett King who didn't come back from Vietnam.

Third, a salute to all my fellow Vietnam veterns, especially you 'Nam Grunt.

224 Lightning_Man  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:18:02am

I called my father (Army, Corporal, Korea) and thanked him, as I usually do on Veteran's Day. If there's a vet you know personally, call and say thanks.

225 JavaMan  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:18:17am

Slightly OT from Fox News:

In one of the most dramatic clashes Wednesday, snipers fired on U.S. and Iraqi troops from the minarets of the Khulafah al-Rashid mosque, the military said. U.S. Marines called in an airstrike, and an F-18 dropped a 500-pound bomb on the mosque, destroying both minarets.

Carry on, gentlemen...

226 oh_dude  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:18:58am

Never in the history of the world has any soldier sacrificed more for the freedom and liberty of total strangers than the American soldier. And, our soldiers don't just give freedom abroad, they preserve it for us here at home.

For it has been said so truthfully that it is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us the freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech.

It is the soldier, not the agitator, who has given us the freedom to protest.

It is the soldier who salutes the flag, serves beneath the flag, whose coffin is draped by the flag, who gives that protester the freedom to abuse and burn that flag.

-Senator Zell Miller

227 AllanTheRed  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:19:14am

Do not forget to email those you know who have served their country or lost a family member in that service, and tell them that you personnally want to thank them for what they have done.

228 The Keeper  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:20:12am

I love that speech and those words, ohdude.
Required reading for every lefty.

229 Darleen  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:21:26am

"The Soldier"

If I should die, think only this of me:
That there's some corner of foreign field
That is forever England. There shall be
In that rich earth a richer dust concealed;
A dust whom England bore, shaped, made aware,
Gave, once, her flowers to love, her ways to roam,
A body of England's, breathing English air,
Washed by the rivers, blest by suns of home.

And think, this heart, all evil shed away,
A pulse in the Eternal mind, no less
Gives somehwere back the thoughts by England given,
Her sights and sounds; dreams happy as her day;
And laughter, learnt of friends; and gentleness,
In hearts at peace, under an English heaven.

Rupert Brooke 1915

230 ArtVandelay  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:22:07am

Somebody posted this the other day (here, I think):

We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready to visit violence on those that would do us harm.

-- Author: George Orwell

Thanks to all who have served. Your sacrafice has not gone unnoticed.

231 Ackomanyuki  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:22:09am

God bless my father' father for storming Omaha Beach and winding up MIA in the process, my father for cruising around the western Pacific in a 'tin can' for 3 years untill he jumped the corral's fence, my brother for doing only what remains known to only him and his superiors (all I know is he is fluent in Russian), and finally, all of the other service men and women who make it possible for me to live and thrive in a country that gives me the freedom to be independent enough that I can come home from my responsibilities miday and post at LGF.

232 Dianna  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:22:16am

Aside from thanking all the former and current members of the armed forces, I extend my congratulations to my parents (Dad's a former marine...wait, no, he's a marine. You're never out) on their 43rd anniversary.

Mom was a teacher, and had Veteran's Day off.

233 Zaideh  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:22:52am

Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
"Online Etymological Dictionary!"

I put the meat world version of it on my wish list to Santa 4 years ago.
I keep it on my bedside table for those rare occasions when I run out of reading.
Fascinating.

Check out The Word by Isaac Mozeson.

234 Techie  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:24:00am

In my earlier statement, I didn't single out the vets in my family.

My great-grandfather Lt. Col. Walter Garner, Chief Medical Officer at a base in the Phillipines in WWII

My grandfather, Corporal in the US Army, Italian Occupation Army 1945-1948.

My uncle, Carl, Lt. in the Marines 1975-1979.

and going waaay back.

Capt. Reuben Hood of the South Carolina Millita during the War for Independence.

235 JustAHouseWife  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:24:18am

Thank you Dad. You are the bravest man I know.

From the Halls of Montazuma to the shores of Tripoli...

his picture:

[Link: tinypic.com...]

236 'Nam Grunt  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:24:56am

"FOR THOSE WHO HAVE FOUGHT FOR IT, LIFE HAS A FLAVOR THE PROTECTED WILL NEVER KNOW".

237 Earl  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:26:01am

In memory of my great uncle, who won the MC driving the Nazis out of Sicily, another great uncle buried in france liberating the country in the Great War, and my father, who served RCN in Korea, and to the countless others have sacrificed for Canada.

Thank you.

Lest We Forget.

238 CC Señor  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:26:31am

The pleasure was all mine and I still miss it from time to time. To those men and women still serving, ya done good and this old fart is proud of you. And really, really impressed. Carry on.

239 realwest  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:27:06am

#187 With absolutely NO DISRESPECT INTENDED, your
best friend"s grandfather was not the most decorated soldier in the Army; in World War II Audie Murphy won every medal that the Army (and allied nations) could give, culminating with the Congressional Medal of Honor. Your best friend's grandfather was also -very obviously - a man of great mettle and courage - I suspect he and Audie would have gotten along just fine.

240 Infidel in Atlanta  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:27:31am

To all that served - thank you from the bottom of my heart.
To those that served and didn't come home - your sacrifice will never be forgotten.
Thank you.

241 rabid fanatic  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:27:36am

Charles, you're welcome, and I say that on behalf of myself, my wife, my brother, my father, my father-in-law, and numerous cousins who are all either in the military or were. Just remember that you are as important as we are to making sure that America stays free. Keep up the great work.

242 The Keeper  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:28:29am

[Link: www.militarycity.com...]

I just want to share with everyone today, the man from our 'family', my American Granparents' son in law...........

Who gave the ultimate gift.............

Bless You.


NO ONE IS UNTOUCHED.

243 UglyAmerican  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:29:14am

And for my second post:

Thank you to My Dad (USN, dec.) and all his fellow Squids.
Thank you to my brother (USMC, ret.) and all his fellow Jarheads.
Thank you to My Father-in-Law (MoANG, ret.) and all his fellow Guardsmen.
Thank you to my buddy's Dad (USAF, ret.) and all his fellow Flyboys.
Thank you to my ex-bro-in-law and all his fellow Coasties.
And last but not least, Thank you to all my fellow US Army Dogfaces who were and still are fighting the good fight.

Thank you all for standing on that wall and keeping all of us here at home safe and free, esp. the ones who deserve it the least and deride you at every opportunity.

I wish I could be there to help, but two blown out knees ended my MP career.

Good Luck, Stay Safe, Come Home Soon, (but not before the job is done) And always remember there are people back home who love you and back you 1,000,000%

244 Nancy  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:29:59am

The American Legion has a Veterans Day online "e-card" thank you for serving

Go TO:

[Link: www.e-cards.com...]

245 Zaideh  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:30:09am

#191 Azure
Re: your link
The look in his eyes is what came to be known in Nam as "the thousand yard stare". If you see a vet wearing that expression, leave him alone. You do not want to know what he's thinking of.

246 The Keeper  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:31:47am

[Link: www.militarycity.com...]

EVERBODY should spend the time and scroll thru the names, familiarize yourself with those who are the most recent men and women, who allow us to sleep peacefully at night in this country.

.........you cannot stop reading............

247 paxnhymn  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:33:20am

221 Nam

where R u man? Call to arms time! As lawhawk stated on another thread ABC changes mind on airing of "Saving Private Ryan". This is such BS! ABC execs state that they are worried about the violence!! YOu believe that crap???!! Like they've NEVER shown gratuitous violence before!! What we need to do is have a showing of it and Hamburger Hill back to back at the Congressional theatre. Make it mandatory on Veterans day. Have an enlisted man from all branches sit every other seat between lawmakers...I want those faces seared...seared I tell you in the minds of lawmakers...they need to be made to remember the sacrifice!! Everyone above 12 should see SPR...lest we forget....

248 Red Sox Nation  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:33:54am

Thanks Vets for your bravery
Thanks to my father and older brother, both US Marines...then and always

SEMPER FI...for you are braver than I...now I'm crying

249 Gruen  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:34:45am

My Grandfather fought tyranny under Patton. He died on the fields of Europe.

Thanks grandpa.

G-d bless all active and former military personnel including the builders and designers of military muscle.

250 andrea/minnesota  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:35:14am

thank you all women and men!!!!!!!!!

starting today
OPERATION GRATITUDE
has started their christmas drive
all you have to do is donate
and they do the rest for ya

251 Purple Fury  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:35:17am

Thanks to all who served and who continue to serve. I honor the sacrifice and service of my own family members:

My father, John, USAF veteran of the Korean era.

My uncle Bill (RIP), who served in the Merchant Marine in the Pacific in WWII.

My uncle Felix, who was wounded in the Battle of the Bulge.

My uncle Dick (RIP), who served in the Army.

My brother-in-law Joel (RIP), who had a distinguished career as a USCG officer.

My grandfather (RIP), who served in the Army in WWI, who saw action in France and was wounded there.

252 VoBan  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:37:15am

(listening to "Fanfare for the Common Man" while reading these posts is doing funny things to my eyes... keep getting things in 'em...)

253 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:37:41am

Those that gave all.
Thank you.

*just go through the links on the right hand side - I should not be at work right now feeling like this.

254 'Nam Grunt  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:38:08am

Pax, Happy Veterans day brother!, I'm in Orange, Texas, and it just goes to show how disreputable our media is. *spit*

255 alkmyst  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:38:12am

I didn't serve in the U.S., but I want to honor my family who did.

Paternal Grandfather: Air Force
Maternal Grandfather: Army
Maternal Grandmother: Marines
Paternal Great-Uncle: CIA

All departed of natural causes, thank G-d.

And to my compatriots in the צהל (IDF):

97th Infantry Battalion "Netzach Yehuda" 8th Division (With no mortal casualties to date, thank G-d)

256 VoBan  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:39:31am

Thanks, #253- you're not helping any!

257 FlyingTigress  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:39:39am

My favorite vet, "Red"...

The brother...

KGL (USAAF) and his brother Mac (USMC)

...the warrior and his self-deprecating humor ...

March 1945... Taken shortly before his being shot down in Occupied China

...and the scientist

K.G.L. c. 1962 Head -- Astronaut and Training Program

258 ErnieG  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:40:45am

I'm thinking about my cousin, Lt. Charles Frank Wilder. He received one decoration, a Purple Heart, at Omaha Beach.

He's still there.

259 paxnhymn  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:40:54am

252 Voban

FYI Frederick Fennel & Cleveland Symphony Winds does Copeland the most justice..

Gotta love it...


:-D

260 Rufus Lee King  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:42:22am

U.S. Forces Move Through Fallujah, NPR, November 10

[Transcribed from audio]

“And this evening one Marine unit believes it may have found a store of Sarin nerve gas, though explosives experts, I have to say, have yet to arrive to inspect them.”

261 Czarny_Smok  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:42:31am

To my fellow Vets, past, present and future, you are the TRUE Band of Brothers, my sincere thanks for all your sacrifices. To our fighting men and women, God Bless each and every one of you, and may He watch over you.

Our debt to our veterans is immeasurable, with great humbleness, I render to you the hand salute.

God Bless Our Great Country

People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
--George Orwell--

262 htom  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:42:48am

#120/Zaideh -- well and truely said.

Thanks to those who came before, those I was with, and those who follow on. Semper Fi!

And to Charles, who has used those freedoms well to creat LGF for us to share.

263 Cowgirl  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:43:50am

I would like to thank my friends and cousins who fought in the Gulf War, Vietnam and Korea, my father and uncles for their service in WWII, my grandfathers and great-uncles for their service in WWI, my ancestors who fought in every war this country ever fought, including the American War for Liberation (some call it the Revolution), and my friends and children of friends who are presently fighting to preserve our way of life and spread freedom throughout the world.

You are my heroes. Thank you for your valor and sacrifice to keep us free.

264 oh_dude  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:45:49am

#228 The Keeper

Thanx, but I just cut and pasted. I agree however, they are very powerful words.

I'm not very relgious but I do remember writing to my good friend the night before he was deployed from Camp Pendelton in the first Gulf War...

No eveil shall befall you, nor shall affliction come near your tent.

For to his Angels, God has given command about you. That they guard you in all your ways.

Upon their hands they will bear your up, lest you dash your foot against a stone.

-Psalm 91: 10-12

I am happy to say that although he had seen some heavy combat, he returned home safe and sound.

265 Fed Up Patriot  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:46:17am

To my Father, Grandfather, Uncle, and Cousins who seved so valiantly to protect our country,

THANK YOU!

And to all the soldiers across the world giving us the chance to live freely,

THANK YOU!

I am forever in debt to all of those BRAVE Men and Women who have sacarificed for me!

You are all in my thoughts and prayers, may you come home safely and soon.

Godspeed!

266 Chris69  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:46:59am

Both my grandfathers are dead now, but my Grandpa Clifford hit the beaches on D-day and my Grandpa Stolle had just finished his second navy tour when his ship was sunk at Pearl Harbor. He immediately reenlisted for a third term. I miss you both, and thank you.

Thanks also to my Grandma Stolle, who worked in the factories while grandpa served.
Her brothers George and Hank, who also served in Europe during WWII

and

Uncle Joe-Vietnam
My father-in-Law Earl-Navy U-boat, 20 years
My nephew Ray, currently serving in England, USAF

Peter_London, my family served alongside many brave Britains in their service, and were proud to have done so. If there is anyone braver or more self-sacrificing than the fighting men and women of our two countries, they have yet to appear.

To all, of every nationality, who fought against oppression, fought for freedom or the freedom of others, Thank you. We owe you a debt that will never be repaid. But you knew that when you served, which makes you all the more special.

Our love and thanks!

Chris, Trish and Jordan Clifford

267 nickpicker  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:47:01am

Here's how the French military spent their day:

[Link: www.lemonde.fr...]

268 Al di Grandpa  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:47:30am

Some day we will buld a monument to those who fought and died during the War on Terror - And Won!

The ongoing freedom of this great nation has always depended on those that fought and often died to preserve it.

A wonderful tribute and little know place. Worth a visit.

America's Battle Monuments

Note how many are in Europe.

269 paxnhymn  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:47:32am

254 Nam

I knew it was Texas, but I didn't know it was my back yard!!! I was born & raised in L.C., LA!! I used to sneak into the Texas Pelican when I was underage!!! Saw the Winter Brothers play there.

was it in Port Arthur that they had that damn narrow ass rickety bridge..felt like it went almost straight up!!

I remember watchin Cowboy John do the afternoon cartoons outa Beaumont....LOL


small world...

:-D

270 composmentis  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:47:36am

To those who were before me (1951-1954) and
those who came after me, my undying gratitude.

271 sandspur  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:48:22am

My heartfelt thanks to those who "pay the price, bear the burden, meet the hardships, support our friends, oppose our foes, in order to assure the survival and success of liberty" Thanks also to the families who sacrifice and support them.

I would like to honor my Dad,who served in WWll, 503rd PRCT, in the Pacific.
And my Mom, who also served in the 106th WAC Hospital Company.
And my Cousin, and friends who served in Vietnam, and the Swift Vets who have vindicated them.
And although not directly in the service, my Aunt, a "Grey Lady" who supported our service people through three wars, in the American Red Cross.

America is truly blessed by people such as these.

272 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb)  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:50:24am

Thank you, and God bless you, veterans, patriots.

Here are the verses of the Star Spangled Banner you NEVER hear.

On the shore, dimly seen through the mists of the deep,
Where the foe's haughty host in dread silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze, o'er the towering steep,
As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
Now it catches the gleam of the morning's first beam,
In full glory reflected now shines in the stream:
'Tis the star-spangled banner! Oh long may it wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion,
A home and a country should leave us no more!
Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps' pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

273 QueenEsther  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:51:52am

#247 paxnhymn

fyi, here's a link to the Saving Private Ryan censure story:
[Link: www.usatoday.com...]

274 Zaideh  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:51:52am

#249 Gruen
"My Grandfather fought tyranny under Patton."

My mom's 2nd husband was there, too.
Battlefield promotion in North Africa, on to Sicily, then to France & on to Germany.
He never would speak to anyone about it except for the night he & I got drunk together & everybody else was in bed.
He was in the COin the lead tank as they entered a French town from which the Germans had fled.
Quiet everywhere.
Then a bullet hit his driver in the face. All hell broke loose. The buildings were rotten with snipers. He jumped out of his tank & ran to the one just behind his. Took a slug in the calf in the process. He ordered his gunners to return fire at will. They practically leveled the town.
Afterwards they discovered to their horror that the snipers were ALL FRENCH!
He hated the French til the day he died.
So do I.

275 Mcgyver  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:52:22am

RWC - I spent some time last spring visiting a umber of those shrines. Very humbling for this vet.

A toast to our fallen comrades...

Mcgyver, out

276 Terp Mole  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:52:50am

National Review Online's Mac Owens asks Where Do We Find Such Men?

So pray for our servicemen in Fallujah today and for the souls of those who have given the last full measure.
277 Catracks  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:54:26am

I served 8 years in peacetime and can't even come close to what our war vets do and have done in one day. Thank you so very much. I stand in awe of you.

Shelley

278 tom321  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:54:43am

Thanks to all the vets and the soldiers from the coalition fighting in Iraq.

Anyone else see this story and find it strange? Can this be just normal discourse in the modern UK?

[Link: news.scotsman.com...]

279 Lyana  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:55:26am

A special thank you to the veterans I've had the privilege to know and love - I owe so much for your love and sacrifices for your family and country.

Husband - Army reservist and "desk jockey" for GW1
Uncle J - Army reservist, lawyer; helped set up government in Panama
Daddy - Marine embassy guard (Vietnam Era)
Father-in-law - Army stateside cook (Korea Era)
Uncle P - Navy Aleutian telegraph operator (WW2)
Uncle H - Army Mechanic, in on D-day (WW2)
Great Uncle L - Army Cook, in Battle of the Bulge (WW2)
Grandfather B - Atlantic Coast Guard (WW2)
Great Uncle R - Army Cavalry - when they still had horses! (WW1, WW2)
Great aunt-in-law - Army Nurse (WW1)

280 Havoc  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:55:30am

Sincerest Thanks to a Faithful Soldier and Husband, who didn't come back

My sincerest thanks to my Aunt Lucille and her Husband Lt. Samuel McCaskill for service to our family and the Nation, in World War II.

Lt. Samuel McCaskill served the nation and was retired from service as a combat engineer, He was working in the City Engineering Dept. of Oklahoma City, in 1941, where on his Salary, supported his wife Lucille, Margaret her little sister by 16 years, and her widowed mother. That little sister, was my mother.

In the call up of 1941, Lt. McCaskill was called back in service where first served as a training commander and later at Ft. Mclellan Alabama, supervising German POW's on construction projects at their Barracks. My mother had an oil panting of a Bavarian Alpine scene for years, given to my Uncle by one of the POW's.

In preparation for the push into Germany after D-Day my uncle was transfered to England in November of 1944, with replacements of engineers. He contracted a raging throat and inner ear infection once there. This was Pre-Pennicillin days.

Near Christmas of 1944, with mass Casualities from the Battle of the Bulge, Lt. McCaskill was pulled out of the hospital with a 103 fever and sent to the front with his unit. His company was completely overrun and every last man perished. Lt. Samuel MacCaskill is buried somewhere near Bastogne and St. Vith, with his entire company. We are not sure where.

After the battlefield clean-up, a jeep carring records of the dead hit an anti-tank mine and was destroyed with all the records. All my aunt new for 5 years was MIA.

Lt. Sam McCaskill had a brother George, who was in Pattons third Army from N. Africa, Sicily, all across France and Germay. He somehow surived. George McCaskill stayed in Europe for over a year after his discharge searching hospitals, bases and cities for his lost brother, whom he never found.

Years later, a researcher in Army war records pieced together the mystery of the large cluster of MIA, and found an eye witness report of the jeep with the KIA records hitting the Tank Mine. My Aunt wasn't notified of her husbands death until 1952 or '53.

My Aunt lost her husband, and George lost his only brother. Because she had no children of her own, my Aunt Lucille poured all of her love onto my Sister, My brother, and Me. She was a fine woman, I'll see her probably one last time this year, she is in failing health in New Mexico, in her 90's, and has lost her short term memory. When I speak to her on the phone, she can remember me only as the little boy she took on the train from Chicago, to New Mexico in 1961.

God Bless you Sam & Lucille McCaskill, and George McCaskill for your service to our nation and the people of France Germany Italy and England.

From Your Grateful Nephew, his family and generations not yet born,

Havoc

PS- and G_d Bless you and your families also Nam Grunt, and paxnhymn

281 Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:55:50am

OT - If I may criticise European society for a moment - Europe is at a Crossroad, with commentary

282 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:56:40am

#268 Ali di Grandpa

I posted that at #253. I am swallowing hard going through that site.

283 Blackeyed Pierce  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:57:21am

OT Charles, Moore-on is at it again:
[Link: story.news.yahoo.com...]

284 'Nam Grunt  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:58:14am

pax,

WOW!! I lived in Lake charles for years working in a chemical plant, my oldest is a chemical engineer there, he is a Grad, of McNeese. I played football for the DeRidder Dragons, when we won the state championship in '65. trigger Allen was our running back, who went on to star for LSU, yes it is a small world.

285 Max  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:59:46am

Quite simply, thank you to all the Veterans of all the eras for what you have done to keep us safe. We honor you with the most profound gratitude.

286 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 8:59:54am
On this Veteran’s Day, I want to express my deepest gratitude to all of America’s veterans for their service and their sacrifices

Me too.

287 Seattle Rep  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:01:01am

Thank you and God Bless you Veterans!

And a Happy Birthday to one of my favorite Veterans born on Nov. 11th

[Link: www.hackworth.com...]

288 BrooklynJon  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:01:06am

I remember going to POW day at Shea Stadium with my dad as a child. I remember not entirely understanding what it was all about, but standing and cheering the POWs for what seemed like an eternity. My father explained that they and others like them had suffered to protect our freedom, and that for this they deserved our eternal gratitude and admiration. Vietnam vets were treated terribly after their service, but there were always those of us - and I'm sure I speak for many here - who had nothing but profound respect and appreciation for the sacrifice and service that they did for our great country, and for freedom-loving people everywhere.

To all veterans and members of the armed services, thank you from the very bottom of my heart.

BJ

289 Sergio  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:01:41am

God bless and keep all our soldiers and veterans. From the founding of the Republic through the unforeseeable future, they have borne and will continue to bear the lion's share of responsibility for preserving our freedom.

290 Baldy  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:02:43am

God Bless Our Veterans.

291 unclebubba  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:03:09am

I want to thank my Grandpa for proudly serving in WWII as one of the Tough Hombres.

292 Bernadette  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:05:50am

Thank you Veterans, today and every day, for your service to our country. The sacrifices you made to keep us safe and protect our freedoms will never be forgotton.

Big special thanks to my Dad, Jack, Air Force and Vietnam War Veteran, and my late father in law, Les, also a Nam Vet, and his brother Lee, a WWII vet who was captured and spent time as a POW, and their other brother who paid the ultimate sacrifice in WWII, and my great uncle who was wounded during D Day and died a few days later, plus all the other veterans in my family.

Plus my LGF vet friends including, but not limited to reaganite, 'Nam Grunt, Zaideh, Paxnhymn, Ed Moran and anyone else I have failed to mention.

Love you all.

{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}

293 centaur  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:06:46am

My great-uncle passed away a few months ago. Among his small collection of keepsakes we found his discharge papers, which included mention of at least four different metals of decoration earned while running ammo from fox hole to fox hole in the south pacific during WW 2. Might have been Guadalcanal, but I'm not sure... He'd always told us he was some sort of clerk in the army, that nothing ever really happened, and he used only a typwriter while over seas at war.

294 paxnhymn  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:07:22am

284 Nam

LOL

I'll be damned! What plant? My G'dad helped build, worked at for 38 years, then helped em tear down the old Cities Service plant. My dad was a journeyman pipefitter at Jupiter when they had that union war and a guy got killed. I graduated fron LC High in 77..the year we kicked the DS outta Sulphur, then went to finals only to have our ass handed to us by Capt. Shreve (as usual!)

sorry for the remeniscence folks, but this is like old home week.

295 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:08:24am
296 truthsword  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:11:56am

Many are using some outstanding quotes and poems to help express their honor towards Veterans... I will add one I haven't seen on here today and am sorry if it is... but this poem always make me think of the honor and duty of a good soldier and how much they deserve our admiration...

The Charge Of The Light Brigade

by Alfred, Lord Tennyson

Memorializing Events in the Battle of Balaclava, October 25, 1854

Written April 10, 1864

Half a league, half a league,
Half a league onward,
All in the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.
'Forward, the Light Brigade!
Charge for the guns!' he said:
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.

'Forward, the Light Brigade!'
Was there a man dismay'd ?
Not tho' the soldier knew
Some one had blunder'd:
Their's not to make reply,
Their's not to reason why,
Their's but to do and die:
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.

Cannon to right of them,
Cannon to left of them,
Cannon in front of them
Volley'd and thunder'd;
Storm'd at with shot and shell,
Boldly they rode and well,
Into the jaws of Death,
Into the mouth of Hell
Rode the six hundred.

Flash'd all their sabres bare,
Flash'd as they turn'd in air
Sabring the gunners there,
Charging an army, while
All the world wonder'd:
Plunged in the battery-smoke
Right thro' the line they broke;
Cossack and Russian
Reel'd from the sabre-stroke
Shatter'd and sunder'd.
Then they rode back, but not
Not the six hundred.

Cannon to right of them,
Cannon to left of them,
Cannon behind them
Volley'd and thunder'd;
Storm'd at with shot and shell,
While horse and hero fell,
They that had fought so well
Came thro' the jaws of Death,
Back from the mouth of Hell,
All that was left of them,
Left of six hundred.

When can their glory fade?
O the wild charge they made!
All the world wonder'd.
Honour the charge they made!
Honour the Light Brigade,
Noble six hundred!

297 Nancy  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:13:08am

To all those who are serving, all those who have served and especially to our own LGF past and present military families, I am forever grateful.

I am --and I do speak for many others --proud of what you do, blessed that you are willing to do it and darn lucky you do it so well!

A special thank you to LGF miliary --past and present.

298 reaganite  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:13:11am

#292 Bernadette
:-)

#293 centaur

He'd always told us he was some sort of clerk in the army...

My grand father was the same way. He was a Naval aviator who went to flight school in 1927. He told us when we were children that he never saw any combat. He said his one experience was dropping a bomb on some smoke in the jungle in the pacific theater. When he died we found out a very different story. Battle of Midway, Leyte Gulf, the Solomans and on and on. He retired a Vice Admiral.

299 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:13:21am
300 'Nam Grunt  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:16:08am

Pax,

My oldest graduated from Sulphur, and as I said went on to McNeese, I worked for Occidental, we bought the old Ethylene Plant from Cities Service, and revamped it, and started it up and made huge money, btw Cities is still operating on Cities Service hwy, you wouldn't recognize it now, I was in Lake Charles for my B'Day, my sons took me out to dinner, going there tonight for dinner with my kids, Outback, can't wait, btw I also used to sneak into the Texas Pelican, it's closed and abandoned now, too many insurance fires, smiles.

301 frank  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:17:10am

I add my heartfelt and prayerful thanks to all who have served our country to enable the freedom that I and my family enjoy.

302 reaganite  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:18:54am

Did I mention that I love the way LGF supports us? Thank you all.

303 White Dragon  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:19:42am

Thank You Veterans for liberating us in 1945 !

You volunteered and went through hell to make us europeans free!
Europe owes You a lot.

God bless You all!

304 Mcgyver  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:19:55am
On this Veteran’s Day, I want to express my deepest gratitude to all of America’s veterans for their service and their sacrifices.

Charles and all, if someone hasn't said it;

Sir; it was an honor.

Mcgyver, out

305 dustyroadguy  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:20:27am

nam grunt

don't do again...'remember the birthday'

Thank you for your service....

Pax Veteran's Day to you........

306 'Nam Grunt  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:21:11am

reaganite,

Happy Veterans day, and may you stay safe my brother. Keep your head down and your powder dry.

307 Crill  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:22:26am

Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends

308 reaganite  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:22:32am

#306 'Nam Grunt
Thank you sir. Be safe as well. I'm in the final months of my career. About as safe as I can get. Well, except I'm going to Little Rock next week...

309 Dime IV  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:22:58am

On this special day, to all past, present, and future United States veterans: There is no Hollywood star, no music star, no sports star, no author, no teacher, or no preacher who could ever hope to shine as brightly as you.

For your sacred service in upholding and protecting freedom, may you be repaid by Heaven and Earth a thousandfold.

Joel T.

310 FabioC.  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:23:49am

Talking about military careers...

Both of my grandfathers were drafted in the Italian Army during WWII. My mother's father was sent to Albania, but got an early discharge for a gastric ulcer and came safely home.

The other one was a paramedic in North Africa. Eventually - after seeing some real combat - was taken prisoner by the Brits and decided to collaborate with them. After a couple of years with no contacts, he got back to his family.

My father, in the 60s, volunteered for 3 years and become non-commissioned sergeant, vehicle electrician and mechanic attached to a mountain artillery company.
He saw some live fire during training exercises.

I... signed up for the Sappers when I was drafted, but then rejected for medical reasons. I don't regret it so much, actually.

311 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:23:58am

#302 reaganite
Drop in the bucket and easy to do for what you and your brethren have done for us.

312 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:25:01am

Thank you Veterans!

313 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb)  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:25:02am

I got this email from my dad today. He's 76.

"Chattanooga is supposed to be the most patriotic town in the country because of the parades and events that go on here on dates like this and memorial day and fourth of July. It's like a throw back to the fifties and earlier eras that did those things all over the country, even Hollywood back then.

"I was thinking this morning about what I would say if anyone asked me why I am a republican. So many reasons came to mind and one was PATRIOTISM. With me that is big. I sense (as they like to say) that patriotism is a huge NO NO or HELL NO with the left wing of the democrat party and that is the wing that dominates that party. Patriotism is not " My country right or wrong" to me it is a feeling of deep appreciation for the past performance of the people of this country and the guarantees that have been in place all these years that our citizens will have the best possible chance to pursue happiness.

"I know that there have been aberrations and exceptions and room for improvement as we went from the beginnings to the present but to me the U.S. of A. has come closer to living up to perfection than any other entity. Add to that all the accomplishments of our citizens and all their generosity to the whole world that presumably now hates us."

I learned it from you, Pops. :-)))

314 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:25:38am

Just got back from the Veterans Day Parade here in Downtown Houston.

My hands hurt from clapping and my throat is sore from cheering!

It was so great seeing the men and women who served our country!

I just have to add that some of those old soldiers, sailors and leathernecks sure are flirtatious! My goodness!

Of course I flirted back (in a nice lady like way).

I had a great time, in a bittersweet sort of way. I couldn't help but think that there are so many who never came home. That there are so many in Iraq and Afganistan who won't come home.

What a day.

God Bless them all.

TPP

315 reaganite  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:26:50am

#311 Right Wing Conspirator
I still think it's great. :-Þ

316 monkeyweather  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:27:23am

One good thing about Kerry running for president is that finally the Vietnam vets have gotten a chance to get their reputations back from the bastard who helped destroy them.
A perfect piece of irony that the man who contributed to the ruination of those vets turned out to be the vehicle those same vets used to redeem themselves, isn't it?

I hope the Vietnam vets have the BEST Veteran's Day ever!!!
I thank them for their service both in war and this year working to defeat the traitor who would be president. They have been tireless patriots despite the horrible way they were treated upon their return and in the media since.

My thanks to all who have served,
And my thoughts and prayers go out to our brave soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan.

317 Rufus Lee King  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:27:33am

OT
Sarin from Soviet test kit found in insurgent mortar room

In the course of locating seven weapons caches in a single block around a mosque in northeast Fallujah, an Iraqi platoon Wednesday found a suitcase full of vials labeled "Sarin," a deadly nerve agent.
While further analysis determined that the find was probably part of a Soviet test kit with samples, its discovery in a room with mortar shells appeared to indicate an intent to weaponize the material.
318 FlyingTigress  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:28:17am

#298

I didn't know 1/10 th of Keith's service until long after he died. He didn't talk much about it.

We -- his children -- saw some of his decorations (some had been lost over the years). It wasn't until I tried replacing them a few years ago, contacting the AFPC at Randolph AFB and the Ministry of Defense in Taiwan, plus finding a box of his records in my brother's garage, that the rest of the story emerged: the citations that accompanied his Silver Star, DFC, his LOM, and PUC, his orders and OERs, the evidence of his fight (successful) to regain his flight status after being grounded (medical) for hearing damage (a jet-rated pilot who had to wear a hearing aid while on the ground!) in the early 1950s.

Some really put down these red-state-type Americans, and then you look at the story that they DON'T tell about themselves, and you have to shake head and wonder what would happen if THEY were ever asked to stand up and defend their freedoms.

Never mind. I think that we all know.

319 Baldy  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:28:48am

OT: Does anyone know any vets in Pittsburgh? Or could someone post something on FreeRepublic about a anti-US/anti-Military protest happening today in Pittsburgh? I'm going to pass out soon. I've been sending info to as many people (strangers) as I could find. [Link: www.thomasmertoncenter.org...] SORRY, Charles for the multiple posts on same subject.

320 Post-it notes  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:28:50am

God bless you all!

And to my pezos gettin' ready to go back to the box soon...Godspeed.

-An ole' Air Assault "leg".

321 'Nam Grunt  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:29:33am

Thank you America for the appreciation, for me and my Brothers that fought for our Country, I am so humbled for once, since returning from 'Nam I knew that there were many that are sooooo proud to have served their Country, somehow after all these years I'm the proudest I have ever been, but there are special people that are in harms way as we speak, May God Bless them and keep them in his arms.

322 FabioC.  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:31:36am

The mark of the hero is to be humble about his accomplishments. Many veterans with a long list of decorations just say about it "It's no big deal, I just did my duty".

323 FlyingTigress  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:32:32am

#321

(sneaking in a salute from we 'brats')

324 somerville  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:32:45am

Went to watch the Veterans Parade in NYC today. Stood next to a WWII vet who is my Dad's age (also a Vet). He was wiping tears from his eyes as the procession of vets from WWII, Korea, Vietnam and Iraq marched by.

The only bad moment for me was when Hillary Clinton walked by. Luckily a guy standing behind me yelled "Boo" very loudly. Wonder how many other people booed her along the route...

325 ThomasAgee  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:33:37am

#187

Saw @ least 4 NRA medals, being a life member it really made me feel good. My dad is interred @ Ft. Sam Houston (KOREA & NAM Air Force Vet). As an Army Vet during the appeaser's reign (the ga peanur farmer) I had my fill after 3 years. Too bad REAGAN didn't run in 76.
To all who have served & are serving, GOD BLESS YOU & THE U.S.A.

326 Perry  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:37:31am

A word of thanks isn't enough, but, well, thanks. There are so many beautiful stories, and people I'd love to have met. Our best, brightest, and bravest. You honor your country and make us proud.

To contribute to holiday cheer for the good military folk in Iraq you can go to Operation Holiday Spirit, over at Soldier's Angels dot com. They're trying to do a stocking for everyone over there, containing a phone card, a sand scarf, and other small items--whatever they can get donated to send.

327 Occasional Reader  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:39:05am

#308 reaganite:

I have your Veterans' Day resolution drafted for you:

"I will start drinking real beer for a change..."


(And, btw, thanks for all that bomb-doctoring!)

328 Utahn  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:40:04am

To my grandpa (WW II and Korea) and my other grandpa (WW II) and my dad (Vietnam) and my brother-in-law (stationed in Korea, at the moment) thank you for all that you do and did for us.

To the troops in Iraq, Afganistan, or anywhere, thank you for your sacrifice. Freedom truly isn't free. Without you 9/11 would just have been the first of many attacks, I am sure. Without you OBL wouldn't have threatened us just before the election, he would have attacked.

To the law enforcement/homeland security forces too, thank you. My dad was part of the effort to keep the '02 Winter Olympics terror-free. Months of vigilence, tension and sleepless nights. The homefront "troops" deserve our gratitude too.

Thank you Vetrans!

329 reaganite  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:42:29am

#327 Occasional Reader

"I will start drinking real beer for a change..."

Bah! The sad thing is I'm not drinking this week, I'm on call. The fish is dead and it's Veteran's Day and I can't even crack a real lager!

330 talk sick alaskan  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:44:11am

If it wasn't for our veterans, the USA would not exist.

If the USA did not exist, the world would be a very different place, and freedom and liberty would not be on the march.

331 rtheyserius  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:44:30am

THANK YOU VETS!

And GOD BLESS our fighting men and women in Iraq!

332 realwest  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:45:12am

#302 reaganite - I couldn't agree with you more, especially because LGF loves and respects us everyday,
not just Veteran's Day.

333 FlyingTigress  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:45:34am

One of the nice things about living in this part of Washington State (not all of WA state is moonbat/America-hater Central) is that we have several bases in the area: McChord AFB and Fort Lewis -- but, NAVSTA Bremerton and the SUBASE in Bangor (Bangor -- great place for a Ohio-class ballistic missile sub base, true?) aren't too far away, either.

There's an Old Country Buffet restaurant not too far off-base that gets a lot of active duty service personnel and their families near payday, and retired personnel.

I think that its time again to dip into the savings account and do the "the next soldier/sailor/airman/Marine in uniform -- and their family -- has their meal paid for tonight, okay?" thing.

God knows these kids more than deserve that, and more.

334 Blackeyed Pierce  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:46:17am

#317 Rufus Lee King
NPR as well:
[Link: www.npr.org...]

335 reaganite  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:46:42am

#332 realwest

not just Veteran's Day.

Very good point. LGF is not a fair weather friend to the military.

336 Zaideh  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:47:00am

Reaganite
To #308 Occasional Reader's
"I have your Veterans' Day resolution drafted for you:"

I would add:
"And get rid of that motorcycle!
What were you thinking!?!?

LOL

337 The Keeper  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:47:46am

#325
yeah, big NRA guy........

#322
yup, vets I know are all humble men, except when talkin' up freedom!

338 our gal sal  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:48:52am

#247 paxnhymn

My daughter wen to see SPR in Austin when it came out. Devastating as it was, what completely undid her were the two veterans sitting in front of her, with their arms around each others's shoulders, crying their hearts out.

Thanks, veterans. We'll continue to try to make this the best country in the world.

339 Aquatic Cadaver Dog  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:48:54am

My dad left high school at 17 to enlist in the army. (The story is that he took his father's name because he was underage.) He drove a tank. He was in Patton's 5th army and fought in the Battle of the Bulge. He was among the liberators of Dachau. Later he was called to Korea. My mother said he could have gotten out of going to Korea, but he chose not to. Obviously he felt that the service was his duty.

I never really got to know him because he died of a brain tumor in 1958 when I was very young. He was a quiet man, and he never talked about the wars.

To hear what you servicemen have to say brings me closer to my dad. I am so grateful to you for what you have done. God Bless our military men.

I will contribute $25 to LGF in memory of my" Daddy James" who died on this day 46 years ago.

340 reaganite  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:49:20am

#336 Zaideh

"And get rid of that motorcycle!

I still have my race bikes, can't get rid of them, too much history. I haven't ridden in a couple of years now!

341 'Nam Grunt  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:49:52am

I don't mean to rain on all of the appreciation, here today, but fighting in the jungles of 'nam for 26 months, was not a sacrifice to me or my brothers, IT WAS A PLEASURE!, knowing that we were defending the USA, just as our Brave Men are doing in Fallujah, ARMED FORCES is doesn't get any better than that, get them guys and may you be safely returned HOME!!!

342 Occasional Reader  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:50:58am

#329 reaganite:

The sad thing is I'm not drinking this week, I'm on call.

Now I remember why I never joined the military...

343 Duns Scotus  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:51:49am

If only we could give Veterans Day back to the vets, and take it away from the malls and car dealerships. This ole Army vet sees too many people shopping on a day we should be thanking.

344 reaganite  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:52:41am

#341 'Nam Grunt
I've spent some time in really ugly places. I never thought of them as a "pleasure"! We did know and still do know that what we were doing was needed. (except for the Slick Willy missions)

345 monkeyweather  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:52:53am

#281 Titus QC
That was REALLY good! :o)
Thanks for posting it!

346 The Keeper  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:52:53am

#339
...another humble soldier and family man.....you were lucky to have him .I miss my dad too, but I was fortunate to have him until 72.
He is buried a 9 iron from John Wayne and I know could not be happier, being the "American Immigrant and American Dream".
He gave his for 2 countries!
1st his Homeland, than here.(his number just missed)

Bless them all.

347 realwest  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:53:07am

#321 'Nam Grunt - This appreciation sure is a long way from the "appreciation" we received when we first came back to the World, no?

348 Beagle  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:53:54am

#341 'Nam Grunt

I recall you mentioning your work as a LRRP. I've read several books on Vietnam LRRP's. You, sir, are a bad ass. But I mean that in a good way. Reconaissance must be the most dangerous job in the military.

349 Rayra[deleted]  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:53:59am
350 reaganite  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:54:14am

#342 Occasional Reader

Now I remember why I never joined the military...

Hey now, I know some military lawyers who can drink any time they wish. It's just that bomb doctoring and booze do not mix!

351 Fed Up Patriot  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:55:56am

Someone tell me if this is true.

michaelmoore.com

As far as I know there have been no Tanks in downtown LA!

I hate that Fat lair!

352 boiledegg  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:57:06am

You forgot to mention the British & Commonwealth soldiers in your heading Charles.

353 bkall27  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:57:40am

Thanks to all who have served and sacrificed! The US is the greatest country in the world because of all of you! God Bless you all!

354 BLUESTAR  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:57:47am

Thanks to all that serve(d); you are the best!

We pray for our soldiers everywhere, the guardians
of our freedom.


Happy Veterans Day.

355 oh_dude  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:58:39am

Military Mom

''A few Americans take that for granted and would have you believe that our military heroes have died in vain. My son did not die in vain. The only way that would be true is if you believe people like Michael Moore. My son died for Moore's right to use the First Amendment. But if Moore had said those same things about Saddam Hussein as an Iraqi, he would no longer be living.

''Michael Moore wants us to believe that the picture of President Bush's face — a mosaic of the lost lives of our soldiers in Operation Iraq Freedom — is a statement that President Bush is responsible for lives lost in vain. Let me tell you what I see: I see heroes who gave the ultimate sacrifice so we can continue to be free. I see faces that make up the face of our commander in chief who is not afraid to stand his ground, not afraid to say 'enough is enough' and will not back down to the terrorist, not afraid to cry with a mother, a wife when he meets with them, not afraid to admit he prays to the living God. I see honor, duty, commitment and courage. I see Semper Fidelis (Always faithful).

''I will continue to speak out against closed-minded co-wards like Michael Moore. I used to be afraid to say what I thought for the way someone would think of me. Not any more. You do not walk in my shoes, Mr. Moore. You do not know what I feel or think. Until you have stood where I stand, do not put words in my mouth.

''I have a voice, and it is about damn time I stop being silent. My son died giving me the right to speak, and speak loud. I will not allow his name or even his picture be disgraced.''

356 ubangi  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:58:44am

I am so thankful to all the veterans who have done what they could, many risking their lives, to protect us and our society.

It is unfortunate that on this Veterans Day, we must listen to the accolades of Arafat, a person who is responsible for the death of Americans, including US Ambassador to Sudan, Cleo Noel, his charge d'affaires, George Moore, wheelchair-bound cruise tourist Leon Klinghoffer, scores of Americans in Israel, and 3 Americans in a diplomatic convoy in Gaza last year. I'm sure I left some out.

Those countries honoring Arafat, a terrorist tyrant, are the same countries that have criticized our troops for being in Iraq and which helped provide the wherewithall to terrorist Saddam.

Australia's p.m., Howard, refuses to send anyone to the dead fish's funeral and has been a staunch ally in the war on terrorism.

May our troops and Australia be justly rewarded.

357 adie  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:59:01am

All our freedom comes courtesy of the bravery and heroism of our veterans and active military. You're all in my prayers, and I'm so grateful for everything you've done and are doing. God bless you and keep you all safe.

358 centaur  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:59:40am

reaganite, THANK YOU. Wish I could buy you a beer, or several... they got beer in Little Rock?

359 PostalWorker  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:59:53am

#267 nickpicker

The French are butt lickers.

360 'Nam Grunt  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:01:21am

#344 reaganite,

It was a pleasure to us on our LRRP Team, you should have seen the motivation, just as the Brave guys that are fighting for us now, I will never forget the men I served with, even the ones I carried to a MedEvac in a poncho, those were the real heroes, may God bless them.

361 Occasional Reader  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:03:23am

#350 reaganite:

Hey now, I know some military lawyers who can drink any time they wish

Are you kidding?! I don't believe it. I mean, think of how dangerous their job is: Firefights with terrorists, hostage rescues, being called in to pilot an F-18 for a dangerous mission... I know what's what, I watch J.A.G.!

362 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:04:24am
363 Occasional Reader  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:06:11am

#360 'Nam Grunt--

LRRP Team? Is that all? I mean, geez, couldn't you have picked a dangerous job?

(no sarcasm tag needed, I hope)


Thanks for your service!

364 'Nam Grunt  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:06:21am

#348 Beagle,

We were doing the job we were trained to do, no worries, I actually loved the Brave Men I served with, all professionals, scary but we were proud to do it, and thanks.

365 Paul  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:07:00am

#241 'Nam Grunt

I spent "only" thirteen months in Viet Nam, I never thought of it as a pleasure but it's something that I'm proud to have done. I still remember the big "Welcome Home Paul" sign my father put across the front of the house when I finally made it back home in January of 1970.

366 lazytart  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:07:46am

I've had many tears reading this thread all day long.

My family is not "military"; my father was drafted during Vietnam but failed his physical... bad hernia, flat feet, old injuries due to severe abuse as a child.

But my grandfather on my mother's side survived the Battle of the Bulge, albeit with the loss of some intestines, and returned home to live a life of sad alcoholism resulting in his early death due to heart and liver disease.

He was always, always proud of his service. More proud of it than just about anything else in his life.

I don't remember you, Papa, but I have the picture of me sitting on your knee before our last fishing trip. I thank you for your service... for what it meant for our country and our family. I'm sorry that some of your memories were hard to bear, and that I wasn't able to hear of them from you, but know that your service and your memories are still told and still a part of our family.

Thanks to my grandmother, too, who gave birth to my mother nine months to the day after my grandfather's first leave. She cared for her babies while their milk was rationed...and her husband was off fighting a far away war with no guarantee of winning. .. something I've never had to do.

Thanks to all the wives, mothers, fathers, children, friends, uncles, aunts, everybody whose loved one is in harm's way to protect and serve this country.

But, mostly, thank you, "rough men", for keeping us all safe and free.

THANK YOU.

367 The Keeper  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:07:55am

You guys remind of that old Roman or Hun adage.........

on something or other, or on your shield........the women would say of their warriors return.

someone, please?

368 papijoe  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:08:01am

308 reaganite

I'm going to Little Rock next week...

Beware the Hildebeast my son...


OK, I know she's in NY, but you never know...

369 Sojourner  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:08:15am

Love and thank you to our precious veterans.

God bless you.

370 reaganite  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:08:41am

#358 centaur

they got beer in Little Rock?

They better!

#360 'Nam Grunt

those were the real heroes

That I don't doubt.

#361 Occasional Reader

I know what's what, I watch J.A.G.!

LOL, but can they bomb doctor hungover?

371 gill  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:08:56am

To all American veterans from WW11

Thank You !

372 centaur  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:08:59am

OT -- from the CSM article linked above about the suitcase of sarin...:

"Almost every single mosque we've come through has been used for weapons storage and insurgent military training," says Lt. Col. Ramos.

...

373 sgt tom  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:09:11am

on this veteran's day, falling the day after the marine corps' 229 birthday, the most amazing thing is happening...

combined forces of the marines and the 1st infantry division, supported by air force cas have invested fallujah and have almost reduced the city.
the degree to which "joint" cooperation is taking place, and doing so wonderfully is absolutely awesome. our kids, our boys and girls are acting so honorably, so forcefully. if you've got a kid in the service, you have to be proud, if you don't, then it's your neighbor's kid and so on. this generation has stepped up and answered the call, shouldered the burden in a way most of us would not have dreamed was possible, given the outcome of the '70s, the vision of john kerry, jimmy carter, and jane fonda.

no wonder the fweench are trying to undermine us at every turn. the united states of america is the best of the best, and it boils the blood of the wanna-be's!

to all those who have come before, who led the way, and gave their all... thank you.
americans everywhere can crack a big smile, with a proud heart, thanks to our veterans everywhere.

'specially you, 'nam grunt!
:)

374 Paul  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:09:38am

Oops... make that #341 'Nam Grunt

375 michaelg  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:10:40am

#367

"With it or on it" Referring to their shields. Come home in glory or dead, word be the paraphrase. Spartans, I believe.

God Bless our veterans.

376 reaganite  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:10:40am

#368 papijoe
No worries it's a POTUS mission.

377 realwest  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:11:13am

352 boiledegg - I'm sure Charles meant no slight; I for one didn't know November 11 was Veteran's Day in Britain and the Commonwealth (I thought you guys still called it "Armistice Day").
I certainly can't speak for anyone else here, but I sure appreciate you help in WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam (for a very short time I worked with an Australian SAS group in Camb, uh, Vietnam, and certainly now at our side in Iraq. Thank you and God Bless you and yours.

378 The Keeper  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:12:26am

#375
Yes the Spartans!
Now there was a wrring bunch......great special recently on them, where MANY of the modern traditions of the military are derived from.
Right gents?

Fascinating............

379 sgt tom  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:12:44am

reaganite

what you doin' in little rock?
i grew up in that town.

they do have beer, but they don't have good ale...
i asked for an ipa, and got rolling rock!

380 boiledegg  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:13:27am

#377, I see my mistake, beg your pardon. Hope it goes well anyway :p

381 reaganite  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:13:50am

#379 sgt tom
I'm going to Little Rock next Tuesday. POTUS trip.

382 sharona  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:14:34am

Perhaps it's just me (and I'll admit I was too intimidated by the nearly 400 posts to check to see that I'm not touching on an oft-repeated subject - sorry!), but I really wonder why 'holidays' such as Veterans' Day are celebrated on week days (let alone a Thursday, but Veterans Day is calendar-based, correct?) when many of us will be at work rather than joining other citizens in city-wide remembrances. Perhaps some day in the near future we will recognize the fact that we wouldn't be able to celebrate any holidays, let alone Indenpendence Day or Thanksgiving, were it not for our fighting men and women in the Armed Forces.

How does one adequately reflect their thanks - their gratitude? I did it last Tuesday, by voting for President George W. Bush. He values, respects and reveres these men and women: Kerry did not, and does not. I may be a hard-working semi-professional here in Chicago, but I feel that I am a sort of adjunct to the military men and women overseas. Voting with their well-being in mind (as well as my own, obviously) is the least I can do to say "Thank You". It really is that simple.

#344 reaganite:

We did know and still do know that what we were doing was needed. (except for the Slick Willy missions)

Would I ever love to hear some of those stories!

And to 'nam grunt, military mom, and all the other military men and women, I am humbled by the sacrifice you and your families have made to keep me safe.

/ Thank you. *curtsies*

383 Ojoe  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:14:37am

Fly your flag today! And if you have Boy Scouts or Cub Scouts in your family, there are some rank advancement requirements thay can check off if they raise the flag today (not tomorrow!)

384 Elvis  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:15:02am

Deepest thanks and muchos kudos to all the vets.

385 sgt tom  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:16:29am

381 reaganite

be safe my friend.
nice enough town... nicer to be FROM than going to.

coming into to lrafb/jacksonville, ar

and of course don't discuss ops plans.

i've c-130'd out of there a few times. gotta love those lil' planes!
happy v day!

386 'Nam Grunt  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:17:28am

sgt. tom,

I love ya' Brother!

387 reaganite  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:17:42am

#382 sharona

but I really wonder why 'holidays' such as Veterans' Day are celebrated on week days

So us in the military can get a 4 day weekend! :-Þ

Actually Veteran's Day used to be Armistice day. It actually is an anniversary. It's always on the 11th of November.

Would I ever love to hear some of those stories!

Mostly shear boredom, stifling hot or stone cold and always dirty.

388 ubangi  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:17:56am

#373 sgt tom

Well said. Ditto.

389 Renna  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:18:35am

Speaking of Little Rock, I caught just a bit of a King of the Hill episode last week. Hank is driving and passes a sign that says "Welcome to Little Rock, Home of Bill Clinton." Hank reaches over and locks his door.

390 reaganite  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:19:29am

#385 sgt tom
It's just a routine trip, no big deal. Just another city I can add to my drinking list (Ed, we must compare lists one day!).

391 moonsbreath  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:19:42am

A big heartfelt THANK YOU to all veterans, and especially to my dad.

Support the USO!

392 The Keeper  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:21:00am

I want t-shirts and bumber stickers that say.............

"With it, or on it."

*+*

The Keeper sees his self owned and managed club, EAGLES FC, wearing these before the next match..............

;)

Got kicked in the face diving headfirst, hands first into a goalmouth melee, got kicked in head, cut eyebrow, bruised purple from mouth to forehead(the guys knee caught me),................thought about my dad, passed away recently, my 1st coach and a man's man.............and said, clutching the bloody wound with my glove, "can I finish? or Emergency now?".

;)

Knowing me, my mate just reached for the First Aid kit, plugged the crevasse with gauze, taped my head like a lobotomy victim(which us goalies and baseball catchers basically are), and proceeded to make a second half shutout.

Not quite a Veteran's Day battle, but I always try to emulate what my dad would have done, or those that have gone before and after him.

...........yeah, it's only a game, but Life is a game..........

*+*

393 sharona  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:21:16am

realwest:

Oh kick me in the pants! I couldn't abide leaving your name out of the list of military heros in my post:

"Thank You!"

/ * deep Texas debutante courtsey with forehead to the floor, lol! *

394 endangered in MASS  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:21:19am

It's been 14 years since I left the Army after serving 9 years active. I am married with an eight year old daughter.I am blessed in that I am able to support my family. I feel compelled to enlist in theNational Guard which would most likely mean a tour in Irag or a stateside mobilization. As I am the sole provider , a year on active in the guard would be devastating financially. Still I feel the call of duty. I think our mission in Iraq is that important. I've been putting off making a decision as I would never serve with Kerry as CinC.

Am I nuts for even considering this?

395 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:21:20am
396 FabioC.  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:24:27am

OT - Is this the beginning of the end?

Al-Quaeda declares: "We have nukes, and we will strike the USA".

An Italian press agency reported that an al-Quaeda statement appeared on the Internet to inform the world the they acquired nukes. Sorry, no links for the moment. But if someone knows Italian, check out this website: [Link: www.adnkronos.com...]

397 'Nam Grunt  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:24:47am

dusty,

I will never let my sons wrangle me into the celebration they gave me on my B'Day, NEVER!, smiles, happy Veterans day my friend.

398 sharona  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:25:28am

Thanks to American Infidel and reaganite for the background info on Veterans' Day.

Next week is the dedication of the Clinton Presidential Library, isn't it? I don't even want to joke about what "achievements" will be lauded and the sort of "exhibits" on display in that place!

399 reaganite  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:27:02am

#398 sharona

Next week is the dedication of the Clinton Presidential Library, isn't it?

Please tell me you're joking! ARRGGG!

400 Pamela  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:28:13am

God bless our veterans and to all the soldiers and sailors serving now. Because of them we all know freedom is not free.


God Bless America and all the freedom loving nations in the world!

401 realwest  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:30:17am

#393 - Sharona - I was certainly no hero, but I was a bit miffed at being left off the list *sniffle*!
Thanks, also for your terrific e-mails.
BTW you do the best courtsey around!

402 The Keeper  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:30:52am

#394
Not at all.
Wish I could, 45, a bit late, but i donate, help wives, families, other little things.....

You are a Patriot.

403 Rufus Lee King  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:32:03am

372

In one of the most dramatic clashes Wednesday, an F-18 dropped a 500-pound bomb on the Khulafah al-Rashid mosque, destroying both minarets, after snipers fired on U.S. troops from the minarets. Insurgents in streets around the mosque kept up the fight, pinning troops down on a rooftop.

AP

Aha! Religious persecution! Genocide! Get the Carter human rights office on the phone, now!

404 sgt tom  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:32:39am

390 reaganite

i think i recommend (not for anything but the brag factor) the bar in the capitol hotel... president grant stayed there... kinda has a bit of history... across the street in the new monstrousity is the site of the old marion hotel... i have a silver spoon from there, and used to visit the gar hole bar in the basement when i was underage... funny thing about me, when i was under 21, i looked over 21... then later in my 30's, no one would believe i was over 21... one of those genetic things i guess.

my dad was a carrier seaman in ww2... after i joined the army, he confided that he joined the navy (he couldn't and still can't swim) because he was afraid he wouldn't be able kill someone face to face.
my dad's a bit of a hero too.
the lil' escort carriers (he was on cve 81) stood off the japanese navy at leyte gulf... spooked them off and caused them to cancel their plans.

dad, here's to you!

405 The Keeper  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:32:56am

#396
No probs, am sure Israel is locked and loaded already, with a range that includes Iran.........

If they think 'tit for tat' is gonna scare anyone.......

;)

406 realwest  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:32:57am

Um, that "best courtsey around" comment meant no disrespect at all to Evolution's Eve who's got a pretty good one of her own!

407 Rayra[deleted]  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:35:41am
408 sgt tom  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:37:13am

394 endangered

you're not crazy, but there are plenty of other ways (perhaps better) that you can contribute.

just going to work, doing your job, living a good life (which makes the muslanimals crazy) and loving your wife is one of them. everyone is a little cog in the great engine of the american economy... and that engine drives what it takes to keep the military going.

409 The Keeper  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:38:32am

OT but............
I always thought my dad's NATO duty was Honorable(1950's), but the way NATO is being 'puppet-ed' by slimy Euro politicians, Clinton, etc. leaves a weaker taste of power in the mouth.........

Problem is, their hands are tied, as real soldiers, unlike many other elements of engagement for other soldiers.

Still, their past history and present is SO much more worthy than the UN and those that would exploit them............

*+*

410 Zaideh  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:39:20am

#385 sgt tom
"i've c-130'd out of there a few times. gotta love those lil' planes!"

LOL
Before I got my dream assignment (HH-43), I flew C-124s, AKA "the aluminum overcast", AKA "a collection of obsolete Douglas parts powered by 4 Pratt & Whitney oil leaks".
To those who waltzed "the fat lady", the Herky C-130 will always be known as "the sky scooter".
A tough li'l bastard!

411 Patrizio  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:39:51am

Rock N' Roll

412 Sharkman  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:39:57am

Thanks to Lt. (jg) Kenneth Pickens, Lt. Eric Allison, who gave their lives in a helicopter crash on August 15, 1991, coming home from Westpac Deployment aboard USS Camden (AOE-2). They never saw combat, but they gave their lives for the cause just the same. RIP.

413 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:41:10am

Today for Vetran's Day, let us remember a young Jewish Lt. from Hamtramck Michigan. His name was Raymond Zussman. He was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor for jumping out of his tank and singlehandedly charging a German position in France.

On that Day in September 1944, Lt. Zussman killed almost 18 German soldiers and capturing 92 others. Yes he really did that. He died a week later attempting a similar attack at another town. In the second action, before he was killed, he had killed at least a dozen more of the enemy.

Few people know the name and heroism of this Jewish Sargeant York; he was the bravest of the brave. I usually toast his memory on Vertran's Day and D-Day because I do not know if anyone else is there to do so in his memory.

414 reaganite  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:41:47am

#404 sgt tom
Thanks for the bar info!

Here's to your dad as well.

415 'Nam Grunt  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:43:07am

#413,

I will now!

'Nam Grunt

416 sgt tom  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:43:23am

410 z
ah, the herky-bird is such a wonderful plane! makes all kinds of gawd-awful noises (flying with a buncha noobies, their heads turning everywhich way at the sounds), but it's a tough lil' plane, and will remain in service for another decade at least.

c-140's just used up faster than anticipated during the various deployments we've had... and c-17s haven't come online fast enough to offset... but the c-130 just keeps on going.

417 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:43:42am

#351

They were LAV (think armored cars) on the way to a Marine Corps Birthday/Veterans day event that was to be held the next day. The protestors were in the same neighborhood as the VA offices the event was to be held at.

418 The Keeper  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:43:47am

#413
awesome

thus illustrating Patton's creed of letting the other bastard die for HIS country.

All shared instances of heroism and valor are appreciated by those that can only support from afar.

419 Buckeye Abroad  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:44:00am

#249 Gruen

My Grandfather fought tyranny under Patton.

I had the honor of serving in the same division (2nd Armor) as your grandfather in GWI.

G-d bless his memory.

420 sgt tom  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:46:40am

413 a g
that would be a second from me!

i never, ever cared to stand next to someone who wanted to earn the cmoh...
but those whose singular bravery has earned that award deserve all the praise that we can give.
it truly does demand courge & sacrifice beyond the human realm.

421 The Keeper  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:47:46am

Small Payback for Vet's..........

my buddy is enjoying himself for free, at Knott's Berry Farm in Buena Park, CA

They open it up every year to the servicemen and families today.

Heck, they ought to go ANYWHERE for free today!

Small payback, but their pleasures today are paid for in blood, sweat and tears by them, AND their families.

Enjoy that Chicken dinner in your dead buddies' Honor, because that's what HE tells me, THEY paid for it.

Freedom ain't cheap, but you can get a chicken dinner and free admission.

Dripping irony.

422 Zaideh  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:47:56am

#394 endangered in MASS (me, too!)
"Am I nuts for even considering this?"

Maybe just a teensy weensy bit.
Don't overdose on enthusiasm & patriotism.

There are plenty of guys and gals that can don the uniform but you're the onliest mommy your baby has.
Stay home & raise her right.

423 Mark IV  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:48:00am

#325 ThomasAgee

Too bad REAGAN didn't run in 76.

Reagan DID run in 1976... for the Republican nomination. He was beaten out in the primaries by Gerald Ford. Curiously, he actually did receive one electoral vote in 1976, even though he was not technically a candidate for the Presidential election.

I drove in his motorcade (not him personally, unfortunately) that year, in Flint, Michigan. I was a young Republican volunteer with a decidedly conservative bent. I did get to meet him and shake his hand, after a very hostile press conference... which he handled masterfully.

A great memory of a great American.

424 Grandma  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:51:00am

There’s a small town in NJ that erected a monument to its Vets several years ago. My late husband’s name is chiseled into that monument. He served in W.W.II and died in 1974. It’s not a very large monument, it’s not a very notable town, and I’m sure very few of the current residents would know his name anymore. But I remember. And for all the names on all the monuments, grand and small, scattered throughout this nation and elsewhere, and for those whose names are not remembered, I appreciate the sacrifice that they made for the rest of us. For those who serve now, I pray for your safety and victory every day.

Thanks, Charles, for the privilege of letting me write this and the opportunity to read the remembrances and thoughts of so many others.

425 biff  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:51:14am

Love and thanks to all our veterans, including my father Ben, WWII, and my Godson Tim, who is a marine serving in Iraq.

426 Conagher  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:53:21am

I can't say much more than has already be said regarding my, and this country's, sincere appreciation for our vets' service. Thank you so much, folks.


I came into possession of my maternal grandfather's WW2 dog tag a few years back. He died before I was born, but I've always idolized him in a way. He was based in Europe and supported the bombing runs while he was in the Army Air Corps. I have always admired the warriors of the WW2 generation, even more so since the Pearl Harbor of our times on Sept. 11. We should learn from that generation about how to handle ourselves in a time of war.


Also I recently became more aware of the POW/MIA situation regarding the Vietnam War. My father was unable to join the military due to a physical deferment, but I know other men who were in Vietnam. I was doing some research on Kansans who did not return from Vietnam when I ran across the bio of LTCOL Robert Standerwick. I know it's kind of archaic, and perhaps late in the game as he disappeared about seven years before I was born, but I wear his POW bracelet now and regularly search the news for updates. LTCOL Standerwick is a fellow Kansan and a fellow KU alumnus. Anyway, the point I'm trying to convey is that we should not only remember the living vets and the ones who perished, but also the ones who, for all intents and purposes, vanished. They and their families have no graves to visit nor bodies over which to mourn. War scarred lots of people. Let's not forget the families of the missing today, too.


Finally, I'd like to recognize a hero of my generation, Jessica Lynch's hero, PFC Patrick Miller. He was a year behind me in school. He was the smallest guy on the football team, and not coincidentally, the toughest. PFC Miller went on from our town to join the Army. After a wrong turn led him and his unit into Nasiriyah, PFC Miller protected his unit by single-handedly killing at least seven bad guys before being captured. He told his captors that radio frequencies were prices for water pumps and sung "The Angry American" by Toby Keith to buoy his spirits. PFC Miller was awarded a Silver Star for his gallantry and wept when Toby Keith surprised him at a homecoming welcome at our football field and sang "The Angry American" for him. He did his nation and his home town proud, and we should remember him today as well.

427 Sheepdogess  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:53:58am

I bumped into this site today. I don't remember exactly how I got there but it had something to do with Veterans Day. These two guys are precious. Scroll down to the "Not Fonda Jane" story. This is just too funny.

[Link: passtheammo.com...]

OT

PAPER: ACTOR IN COLLAPSE AFTER BUSH WIN...

Hollywood is definitely losing it. D'Onofrio passes out on stage over Bush win. Good. I hope he hit his head. Maybe it will knock some sense into him. Idiots.

[Link: www.nypost.com...]

428 'Nam Grunt  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:54:42am

Thank you Charles, you are a great American, I can't thank you enough.

429 zturlte  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:58:42am

Thanks to my Dad who served in WWII Normandy, and taught me that freedom is not free.

430 Bob with one O  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:59:30am

Damn it's hard to read the thread today.

Armistice Day was to commerate the end of WWI, which ended at the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month.


endangered in Mass,

No sir, you are not nuts. BTW think "soldiers and sailors... act of 1967" it deals with financial commitments of service members, there may be some conflict between "volunteering" and "called to duty"IIRC. Ask an att'y, not the recruiter

: )

431 theparson  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:59:59am

Well, I just got my son home from the hospital so this thread is probably about done but, I have been wanting to share this all day.
I was asked by our local Elementary school to participate in Veterans Day activities because I'm a Marine Vet so I agreed. I just want you to know that not all of America has lost it's mind.
When we got there the Principal began to indroduce us "special guests" and then the teachers led the children in a song about how much they loved the USA. Then we said the pledge of allegience and sang the Star Spangled Banner.
Then, the Principal got up and yelled "What's the best country on the face of the earth?" and the children all yelled "USA, USA". I thought I was going to bust.
I know the world is pretty crazy now but, in our little corner of Texas, we still love the USA.
If I don't think many have seen this, I may post it on another thread because I think it's that important.
God bless the USA

432 jimann  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 11:01:40am

God Bless my buddies who gave all 3 Sep 66.

I still cry for you.

433 papijoe  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 11:02:01am

376 reaganite

No worries it's a POTUS mission.

LOL!

I guess Little Rock is safe for now.

Resist the Hildebeast and she will flee...

434 Rayra[deleted]  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 11:04:09am
435 jlfintx  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 11:05:03am

I am truly humbled and honored to read these posts and offer my deepest gratitude as well. My dad was Navy in Korean War and is dying of lung cancer. My family somehow lost the closeness it used to have and the oldest, my brother still lives with my parents and is lost in the world of schizophrenia. He is almost 50, never married and no kids and they set aside nothing for him. Sorry to say all that, but I know why my dad lost hope.

436 Andy in Agoura Hills  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 11:06:30am

So this is where the French come from:


The Iranian Republic News Agency published a news article titled "Iranian Woman Gives Birth to Frog." The following is the article that appeared on June 27: [2]

"An Iranian woman gave birth to a frog in a bizarre labor in the southeastern city of Iranshahr Saturday. Gynecologist Varasteh, who confirmed the report said the woman, whose period had stopped for six months, underwent a sonography in May which showed she had a cyst in her abdomen, wrote the Farsi-language daily E'temad in its Sunday's edition. Following severe bleeding, the woman, who has not been named, gave birth to a live gray frog accompanied with mud. Varasteh believes the frog larva has most likely entered and grown in the woman's body.

"Other physicians argue that the larva has found its way into her body while she was swimming in a dirty pool, turning to a frog after the fetus has grown. And some specialists blame genetic disorders, saying the so-called frog has similarities with the human's fetus. The woman has two healthy children."

437 Rayra[deleted]  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 11:06:51am
438 endangered in MASS  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 11:06:56am

#422 Zaideh

Onliest Daddy actually ; )

I'm not overly enthusiastic by any stretch. It's more of a moral dilema.Where would we be today if our forefathers and the greatest generation put other considerations before their duty to country.

How can I support the war and not do my part?

I was surprised when I spoke with a recruiter to find that I am even still eligible. They NEED the help.
Thank you though for you kind input.

439 Rayra[deleted]  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 11:08:58am
440 bohnsack  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 11:09:05am

#57, #90, & #319:

Not everybody in Pittsburgh was protesting today. As chance would have it, the Pittsburgh Veterans Day parade passed by the hotel I'm staying in this week, and I was able to snap quite a few photos of the parade where our veterans and military were honored.

Thank you veterans!

441 will_not_back_down  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 11:10:44am

Thanks to all of those who have came before, and are doing now for us, and will continue to do to keep freedoms torch lit here at home and those abroad serving with honor and distinction to maintain our way life.

will_not_back_down
USA 84-97

442 sgt tom  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 11:11:27am

437 rayra

if mean looks could cause harm, my old sergeant major would have put me in the hospital!

and even worse, the commanding general saw me walking through the hq lobby with my coffee cup in my hand one morning... he barked out "looks like one of us isn't working very hard!"

i responded "that sure wouldn't be me, sir"

he roared with laughter... best comeback i ever gave!

443 'Nam Grunt  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 11:12:56am

If any of you get a chance, listen to song by the old group Jefferson airplane, "Summer Love", kind of epitomizes how we felt going to 'nam.

444 Baldy  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 11:15:39am

Rayra #349 - I've emailed them, there are no members in my area... Anyway, I emailed it to many people in the Pittsburgh area (Young Republicans, College Republicans, UofPitt ROTC, Republicans of various suburbs, local Marines...) It's supposed to rain though, and they picked the wrong neighborhood, and the wrong day. The protest is a few doors down from the VFW, and recently, people have been tearing down anti-Bush/Ashcroft/Iraq War/Security Fence posters.

445 eeevil conservative  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 11:17:31am

431 theparson

May God Bless you, and thank you for sharing that. It is doooo good to hear things like this, when all we get from the media, is how much America is hate. Most of all, I am so thankful and proud of you for your service to our country. I am equally pleased that they treated you so well and made you feel so welcome!

('cause if the hadn't, I would have to come out there and get eeevil on them!)

Thank you!

Sherri

446 kevin the ox  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 11:17:35am

My thanks also go to all who are, have been, and will be veterans.

Let's also remember the original importance of this former Armistice Day and its idealistic presumptuousness: the end of the "War to end all wars."

447 sgt tom  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 11:17:49am

443 nam grunt
if it's any consolation, the military shut pretty much everything in the sf bay area... the experience of outprocessing through oakland army base was surely not pleasant (i'm guessing but most folks went through there).

major finanacial hit on northern california.
in direct response to no. cal. complaining about the military.

there is justice.

448 quark2  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 11:20:05am

Thanx Charles for the reminder to celebrate and give appreciation for those who have served.

My husband is celebrating the recognition of his service by being outside today in the brilliant weather.
To my father who served in WWII thank you.
We cannot say it enough.

My father in law who served during WWII, his brother who served by doing duty along our border with Mexico. Keeping us safe and secure.

Last night we watched the special on PBS about the Fields of Stone, and the soldiers who earn the honour of duty at the Tomb of The Unknown Soldier. What a wonderful thing these fine young men and women attain in this service. By standing at attention over the graves of those who have given the ultimate sacrifice.

To all of you who post at LGF that have or are serving, G-d Bless each and everyone of you.

449 zelda  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 11:23:19am

Thanks, Uncle Joe who at 17 didn't have to go. Lied about your age, youngest and last surviving son of immigrant parents. Five sons already serving and still you wanted to go and do your part. Thanks for your sacrifice given from the PA 28th ID. Laying now all these years in the American Cemetery at Epinal France. Thanks, Dad, Uncles Frank, Gus, Al, John now all together. We won't forget.

450 scribtx  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 11:24:12am

I just donated to Operation Uplink. Kinda my way of saying thanks.

Operation Uplink

451 quark2  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 11:24:27am

Baldy #444

It's good to see you posting again! :)

452 Renna  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 11:24:34am

endangered in MASS

You probably are nuts. But so were so guys who put their names on a parchment and their lives on the line about 225 years ago. So were thousands of other men and women over the next two centuries who risked and sometimes lost it all to protect others who may not appreciate it. From my father-in-law who lied about his age to join the Marines in WWII to my father who told the Chicago Cubs, who wanted him, that he would rather be an MP, here's to those who others call nuts. Where would we be without them?

453 Killian Bundy  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 11:25:37am
454 Perry  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 11:26:44am

439 Rayra

Not at all. We need to remember what to fight for and against.

455 theparson  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 11:27:51am

Thanks eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevil (Sheri). It was a great morning.

I told you guys last week that my son, Chris, had joined the Navy. He wasn't supposed to go to Basic until May but he requested an acceleration and so he goes the 29th. He will be an electronics/computer dude on Subs and he is so jazzed! PaPa's proud!

456 eeevil conservative  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 11:30:56am

455 theparson

And papa should be!!!!

Thanks HIM for ALL OF US!!!!!!!

457 papijoe  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 11:31:14am

427 Sheepdogess

A friendly word of caution to D'Onofrio's cast members:

If he starts saying, "I am in a world of sh*t!"...

RUN!

#431 theparson

We are seriously thinking about moving from MA to TX before Bush's term is out. Mostly because of stories like that.

458 motorcycle mom  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 11:33:15am

Thanks to all that have served.
Special thanks to.

My Dad Marine WWII (South Pacific)
Uncle Herman WWII (Normandy)
Uncle Dan Navy WWII (stateside)
Joe (neighbor) Air Corps WWII (Battle of the buldge)


I tried to join the Marines but was denied for medical reasons. :(

459 theparson  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 11:34:10am

#457 papijoe

You won't regret it! Especially if you get a good small town. We live 60 miles from Dallas in a town of 2500.

Texas is a whole 'nother country.

460 Conagher  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 11:34:43am

Lizards,


It's worth a trip to the Virtual Wall from time to time to read about those who gave all in Southeast Asia. Today 161 Americans died in Vietnam between 1965 and 1972. Something for us to think about while we sit in the comfort of our homes or offices.

461 jlfintx  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 11:39:14am

#455 Theparson

I wish I could take a trip on a sub. I actually like enclosed spaces.

Will remember him in prayers as well as his comrades.

462 jlfintx  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 11:42:30am

#459 Theparson

You won't regret it! Especially if you get a good small town. We live 60 miles from Dallas in a town of 2500.

Where are you actually at. I am in downtown Dallas right now off Mockingbird and Stemmons.

463 quark2  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 11:46:46am

papijoe #457

I can't think of a better place for you to locate! :)

Anywhere from Corpus to Waco to Dallas to Longview to Livingston. Many many great small towns to pick from as well as many types of geography.

From Houston to Dallas over to Longview you'll have some of the most beautiful pine forests. From Tyler to the Red River valley you'll be in some of the finest diary cattle and horse country in the states.
Over in the Ft.Worth area you'll see the magnificient grass plains rolling gently on forever.

What can I say. :)

Keep us updated if you decide to migrate.

464 locutus  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 11:47:50am

(Sorry if this was already posted)

You know, we pick on the French quite a bit here, but once in a while, we need to recognize that France, and the French, weren't always so vile...

Here's a real Frenchman

MONTARGIS, France, (AFP) - The handshake is firm, the gaze is clear and the expression still alert. At 106, Ferdinand Gilson can never get out of his mind the six months he spent in the trenches of the Western Front.
"I remember all that period -- well, nearly everything," said Gilson, who is one of only 15 surviving World War I veterans in France, "I have a few memory lapses."
In 1940, he refused to work for the Nazi occupiers of France -- "never, even if I had to die for it" -- but today he does crossword puzzles in German "to stop my brain going rusty."
His wife recalled that during World War II, Gilson provided refuge for four allied airmen on the run and made false documents for about 60 Frenchmen seeking to avoid forced labor in Germany.
465 pilots wife  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 11:47:52am

A heartfelt thank you to all who have worn the uniform including my Grandpa in the trenches of WWI, my Dad who flew B-17's in WWII and my own husband who flew F-111's in Desert Storm and who is currently flying in support of operations in Iraq.

Please remember the troops on the ground in Iraq by going to anysoldier.com and donating or sending a package. Their wants are simple--books, magazines, baby wipes, beef jerky.... If nothing else, send a card or letter that says "thank you".

466 sgt tom  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 11:49:40am

and a special thanks to charles johnson for this space, and for his love of this country.

as i wrote in a message to charles:
a note of praise and astonishment. Since yours is the only blog onto which i post, i had given little thought to comparative volume amongst your "competitors". So it was with an astonished eye that i noted that the blogs for others (galleyslaves, captain's quarters, etc.) had one or two or ten posts for a topic while you - on a relatively slow blog day - were running 75 - 200 comments per topic.

and going over 400 today on this one.
and over 1,000, troll guts and all, on heavily traveled threads. this blog is a stand-out!

467 theparson  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 11:55:26am

jlfintx

I said 2500 but I just washed my hands and I can't do a thing with them. It is 1500.

A little town 60 miles north of Dallas. 6 miles from Denton called Aubrey.

quark2

If you like rolling hills you might look around the Fredericksburg, Kerrville area (stay away from Austin it's moonbat central).

468 foreign devil  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 11:58:36am

To all the veterans of all the wars who gave so much to protect me and mine and our homeland, especially those who served in the first war I remember, World War II, ....thank-you! Thank-you for your sacrifice and for all the terrible things you had to see and endure while doing your duty. Thank-you for protecting me when I was a girl and now, thank-you to the young men and women in Iraq, protecting me still because my country isn't awake to the danger yet. Thank-you all and to your families as well. I'll never be able to repay the debt but I'm aware of it--keenly! I admire these young people so much--especially their courage.

I was always long on bravado but the courage department....you had to get me mad...then I was okay. But until then I just quivered. So I have the deepest admiration for all those serving wherever they are. God Bless you all. We're WINNING! One more old dictator down this week and a few to go but the ten pins are dropping! LUV YOU ALL!

469 Ann  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 11:59:26am

Thank you to those who have served and are serving us now. A special gratitude for those who are doing their jobs well in battle this minute, as I sit here and type.
Thank you to Danny, the doorgunner, and G.B., the paratrooper who both trusted me enough at different times in my life to finally tell me about it.
Thanks to my Dad, who never told anyone about it. His generation was great, but those serving now are equal in my mind.

470 Howdy Doody!  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 12:01:59pm

#459
Thank-you for the link. I will see my family this weekend and we will send a donation through the website.

#457
Instead of moving to TX (which is where my family lives), move to OKLAHOMA. Every county is a red county in OKLAHOMA! Also, our universitiess are not as liberal as they may be elsewhere, and one university supports our troops and the sacrifices they make.

[Link: www.swosu.edu...]

471 Roark  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 12:03:13pm

443

Do you mean "somebody to love" by Jefferson Airplane?

472 Bayonet  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 12:09:17pm

I am Very, Very Lucky:

Every Veterans Day my kids do a little something to
thank "Dad" for serving in the Vietnam War and in peace time. I am always very grateful.

Nevertheless, I always tell them that those who MUST
be remembered and thanked publically and in our prayers are the ones who, as Lincoln said,

Gave The Last Full Measure Of Devotion

from Lexington to Valley Forge
from New Orleans to San Juan Hill
from France to Iwo Jima
from Inchon to Laos
from Kontum to Grenada
from Rio Hato to Kuwait
from Khandahar to Falluja

All gave some - BUT SOME GAVE ALL.

Give it up for the HEROS - a debt we can never repay!

Thanks

473 Howdy Doody!  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 12:14:29pm

Oops, I meant #465 insead of #459 for the link. My bad.

474 'Nam Grunt  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 12:15:19pm

Roark,

Nope it's called "Summer love", a very old song, a very favorite of mine.

475 quark2  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 12:17:30pm

theparson# 467

Aubrey. Been there many times my friend. :)

I'm located about 45 minutes outside of Houston up at the Lake Livingston area. My husband and I have a farm just off of Hwy59. Our local weather wizard Ed Moran had just been dying to bring the family up. I can't understand what he thinks is keeping him away!
Yer lookin' at a native here. And, my disabled vietnam veteran husband is 14 generation Texan. Howz about them apples? :)

Oh yeah, and we won the FIRST Arabian paramutual horse race in the state back in '92. With a great Pure Polish Arabian by the moniker of Eldans Aletan.

476 Clutch  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 12:20:11pm

To the vets on this list;

"I love you, too, man...

...but you still can't have my Bud Light*. Here's your own six-pack..."

(*Please feel free to substitute your choice of spirits and libations for BL. For those of you outside the US or are too young to remember, this is a riff off of a Bud Light beer commercial from quite a few years back).

SALUTE!

477 ExSpy  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 12:24:12pm

Just got in, didn't have time to read the thread yet, but I still want to put my $0.02 in. Thanks to all the Vets for their service to our country. But I'd like to take just a minute to thank my Mom who waited for my Dad to come back from WW II, Korea and Viet Nam (twice) and for waiting for me to come back from 'Nam (twice).

Thanks Mom, you went through more than I did.

478 theparson  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 12:31:45pm

Quark2

I suppose the horse is what brings you to Aubrey (Horse Country, USA). I, too, am native Texan. I was born in Denton but we lived in Aubrey at the time. We moved away but I came back after the USMC. I have two grandmas still living here, aunts, uncles, couisins, etc. My wife's from Ill but she got here as quick as she could.

479 Buckeye Abroad  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 12:35:25pm

#394 endangered in MASS

Am I nuts for even considering this?

No. I am 35 with a 2 year old and I have been told my MOS is sought out. Same boat as you.. big hit financially, but the heart strings pull.

480 'Nam Grunt  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 12:37:36pm

Dubya, follows in that great line of Texans, he is "my hero".

481 Sheepdogess  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 12:49:22pm

#431 theparson

I volunteered at my fourth grade sons, Veterans Day assembly yesterday. I must say, I was surprised and impressed. We live in a very BLUE, left coast state. We had about 25 guest Vets, they all said a little something, our Omaha Beach Vet cried. They were treated like kings and queens by students, teachers and parents.

The kids belted out Battle Hymn of the Republic, sang the song for each branch of the Service and many other tunes. AND THEY WERE GOOD (they have an excellent music teacher). God was mentioned many times and there wasn't a dry eye in sight. There were tissue boxes being passed around the gym. It was great. Thank you Vets. God Bless you all!

482 RickZ  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 12:57:33pm

There's a small, now defunct coal mining town called Pocahontas, Va. Right across from the old post office, in the no stop-light town, is a marker commemorating the boys and men from that little town who served in WWII, the names two columns wide. Included in that list are 5 --sky's: My Dad, Lou, and my 5 uncles: Matt, Steve, Frank, and Joe. Whenever I get back to visit, I always look at that marker with pride, respect, and a touch of sadness, knowing all listed did not come back, unlike my very fortunate family. The marker is a simple list of no-name small town American heroes who did their bit for my freedom. Just as so many places across America have.

Thank you all, each and every one of you.

483 our gal sal  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 12:58:11pm

#457 paijoe

Come down! You will love it! There's a little of everything here, so you can find whatever you want.

quark2 : Also a native, though my family only goes back to before the Civil War. Ever noticed that LGF is loaded with Texans? Hmmmmm, .....

484 RickZ  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 1:08:04pm

My # 482: Sorry peeps, I can't count. It should be 4 uncles!

485 Havoc  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 1:14:37pm

Nam Grunt:

I like native Texan "W" also. He's my hero also. We need him to kick some ass this term.

OT - Real, Effective, Counter-Insurgency

-- The Belmont Clubs current analysis is beginning to discuss a real and effective Counter_Insurgency River War and retaking the initiative now that "Wag the Dog" political campaign season "walking on eggshells" is over.

-- Speaking of counter Insurgency, The Expert Veteran people love to hate, Offered a Memo to the President,, the CIC, in October, on how to fix things, (John Sheehan is a good rec., Wesley Clark is Bad)

-- We can't continue to pay for "Guns and Butter". We are going to have to make some hard choices in the future, All Russo/European jealousy aside. Between Gulf War I and now we may be the world's only Hyper-power Militaritly:
U.S. 10 super-aircraft carry groups: all others + rivals 0
U.S. Super Armored Infantry: Rivals 0
U.S. 10 Seawolf Subs plus all others: Rivals 0
U.S. unmatched Satellite Tech: Rivals stealing it as fast as possible.
U.S. Superior Marine Assault and Special forces: Rivals 0
We cannot deficit finance this for a long period, without acheiving a Jimmy Carter Economy. We will have to rotate troops from Germany and Korea into the Middle East for basing, We will have to pare back the Navy to pay for more Special Forces, Expect MAJOR turf wars, over money and resources. Except more rival missles nukes and terror, hiding behind "sovereign national borders" and the U.N., becuase they can't compete anywhere else.

-- The U.S. State Dept. and Foreign service needs a major housecleaning - Shadow Wars

-- After thanking Rumsfeld for his service and the things that DID work, we must have the courage to admit the things that did Not, and fix them, and quickly.

"War is politics by other means" - Karl Von Clausewitz

"The art of war is of vital importance to the State. It is a matter of life and death, a road either to safety or to ruin. Hence it is a subject of inquiry which can on no account be neglected."
- Sun Tzu, the Art of War
-------------------------------------------------- ---------
Drill Sergeant : "Gump! What's your sole purpose in this army? "

Forrest Gump: "To do whatever you tell me, Drill sergeant?"

Drill Sergeant: "God damn it, Gump! You're a goddamn genius. That's the most outstanding answer I've ever heard. You must have a goddamn IQ of 160. You are goddamn gifted, Private Gump. Listen up, people... "

486 Lady Redhawk  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 1:23:08pm

To all our brave, courageous veterans; to all their spouses who hold down the home front and lie awake at night in fear; to all the moms, dads, kids, friends, and neighbors who pray and hope and support....

GOD BLESS US, ONE AND ALL.

GOD BLESS OUR HOMELAND.

487 sgt tom  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 1:25:29pm

485 (cry) havoc (and let loose the dogs of war)

U.S. 10 super-aircraft carry groups: all others + rivals 0
U.S. Super Armored Infantry: Rivals 0
U.S. 10 Seawolf Subs plus all others: Rivals 0
U.S. unmatched Satellite Tech: Rivals stealing it as fast as possible.
U.S. Superior Marine Assault and Special forces: Rivals 0

you forgot something...
a logistics system second to none!
remember that in ww2, hitler's lightning war was still logistically supplied by mule-train, which broke down fairly quickly. our folks have done nothing short of miraculous, given that the invasion of afghanistan was the first ever conducted entirely by airlift. for all the mistakes, and all the shortcomings, we have distinguished ourselves for a long time to come.

(what good is logistics? if your troops don't eat, they don't survive. if they don't have ammunition resupply, they don't survive. if...)

488 realwest  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 1:32:22pm

475 Quark 2 - good to see you posting again! How are you and how has Veterans' Day treated your Hubby? It's been the ususal for me; partly great - like this LGF thread and partly really bad memories. Please tell him I've been thinking and praying for him and you.

489 Havoc  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 1:59:54pm

#487 Sgt Tom

Correct !

Logistics Second to none. Winning Generals, study logistics.

And I will submit to you that Saddam's Success in Bottling his rivals the restive Turks, and preventing the 4th Mechanized Infantry from Transiting through Turkey, gave him enough EXTRA time to disperse his explosives, heavy artillary munitions and send possibly any leftover VX to Syria.

Our brave men are enduring classic ambush and IED boobytrap now because of it.

We need all out Counter-Insurgency and we need it now.
-------------------------------------------------- --------

"Regard your soldiers as your children, and they will follow you into the deepest valleys.
Look on them as your own beloved sons, and they will stand by you even unto death!"
- Sun Tzu, the Art of War

490 quark2  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 2:30:53pm

realwest

Thanx for the message. The other half is doing pretty good.
He's got his dad living next door now, so they go to the VA hospital together. I love it. *lol
It's good hearing from you.


Our gal sal

I'm first generation Texan on my mums side. She was a war bride from England. She grew up living through the bombing of London. MY father was born in Oklahoma, but I have had family here since pre Civil War. That part of the family is still in Grayson County.
My husband is 14 gen. on his dad's side, all the way back to pre battle of the Alamo.

TheParson
Yeppers, Aubrey is right in the middle of horse country along with all the farms and ranches over in the Gainsville area. I go up to Sulphur Springs monthly for my horse feed, so I see lots of good looking cattle and hay fields too.
We used to race over at Weatherford too. I'm looking forward to getting back into the sport. Probably in about 3 years. Our seed stock are weanlings.

491 Jagster  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 2:37:39pm

Thank you! I got to be home during Viet Nam, being the other half, and watch Jf'n Kerry defile our troops. With all my heart, thank you vets, and thank you great voters.

492 Deer in Headlights  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 2:41:30pm

I have a sincere and heartfelt appreciation to all the brave soldiers and the families who have served and are now serving this great nation. You make us proud and strong. May God bless you abundantly and keep you in His graces.

493 Rayra[deleted]  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 2:50:58pm
494 Fay  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 3:43:33pm

My Jewish father served in the British Army during WW11, including deployment in France. He must be turning in his grave at the behaviour of the French today.

G-d Bless our British/US veterans and active duty personnel.

Never forget.

495 Carridine  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 4:14:35pm

Terrorists: "Taste ye what your hands have wrought!"

US Troops: "The best-beloved of all things in My sight is Justice. Turn not away therefrom if thou desirest Me."

God-fearing, weapon-wielding, terrorist-killing troops! God bless you.

Oh, and use more CS teargas and Adamsite on those little mosque get-togethers!

496 SangerM  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 4:26:03pm

416 sgt tom 11/11/2004 12:43PM PST
but the c-130 just keeps on...
--
The AC-130s flying these days are highly lethal (40mm, 105mm, 25mm) marvels of technology! Computerized, high-tech and manned by some dead-on crews that have spent a LOT of the past 3 years away from home! It's always good to see a lot of planes on the field, 'cause it means they're getting to take a break. Right now, there ain't many out there. Same for the MH53s.

Those are some kinda warriors!

-SangerM

497 HUSKER  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 4:26:41pm

Our local TV station did a story on all of the local Veteran's Day celebrations and wouldn't you know it, every person they interviewed said that we shouldn't be in Iraq, what with the 1000 dead soldiers.
Every station, it was like clockwork. You could actually have bet on it. As I changed the station, "...dead soldiers. We shouldn't be there."
The anchors even gave their nuanced spiels: "Although these people are out here to support the vets, this in no way constitutes their support for the war in Iraq in which over a thousand have died." Back to you Phil.
What a joke!
Let me say, "Thank you from the bottom of my families hearts. I support my troops AND George W. Bush.!"

498 Ed Moran abu GOMEX aob 26.5C  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 4:26:43pm

475

The Anglos arrived in Texas about 1820, so 14 generations in less than 200 years.


Well, I guess if Loretta Lynn was a mom at 14 and a grandmother at 28......


No, that was Kentucky, wasn't it?

;-}

499 Ed Moran abu GOMEX aob 26.5C  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 4:37:54pm

410 Zaideh

Perhaps, someday, the USAF will have a contest I can win, and I'll get to ride along as a passenger on a USAFR 53rd Weather Reconnasaince Squadron WC-130J Super Hercules Hurricane Hunter during a low level hurricane penetration mission over the GOMEX.

WC-130J Hurricane Hunter

The older WC-130H is still in service.

Birds-eye view of the eye of 1998's Category 5 Hurricane Mitch.

500 HUSKER  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 4:53:24pm

When I see footage of our troops charging the beaches of Normandy, sse them getting killed before they leave their boats, getting machine-gunned as they hit the sand but yet they keep coming and coming and coming, it makes me proud to be an American. To every one of them and all vets. . .Thank God for you!

501 quark2  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 5:10:34pm

@498

Ed Moran, grand visier of weather.
We have the records, large families that married young and had more large families along the way.
The pre alamo war era, was when an ancestor from England (a Richard Simmons) married a Bautista-Perez in the then church called the Alamo later on.
So, my husband can also brag about having spanish heritage as well. This particular Bautista was the governor of the territory of Tejas and was representative of Spain that had come to the New World .
The tradition of having big families continued up until his father's generation, now they do families in twoses and threeses.

502 sgt tom  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 5:11:37pm

back on after a connectivity break... stinkin' internet provider anyway... but watched saving private ryan.

sure makes your heart go out for our folks on the line today...

then again, every soldier on the line today has the firepower of an entire ww2 rifle company.... it's a little different than it used to be.

thanks to all ya'll for being here, and especially thanks to our troops (who are already up and on the line over in the aor).

fallujah est delenda!

503 kehenry1  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 5:18:45pm

I am but one of many who will add here my thanks to those living and passed, retired and serving. Thank you and God bless.

I have a flag on the wall. It's folded in a triangle held within a shadow box. It draped the coffin of a very fine man who lived a long life as a simple man and never spoke of his war until a few months before he died. He was hero to me before, but was ever raised within my eyes when I finally heard his stories.

He was the second of seven children. All four boys served in the navy. Before them were their father and uncle, doughboys in WWII. After them came my mother's brother, older than she by many years, he served in occupied Germany as army and then the Air Force in Korea. After that, my father's brother, enlisted and served two tours in Viet Nam so that my father, married and with children, would not have to serve.

My brother, Gulf War I, Bosnia and Gulf War II. My cousin in the Army, Operation Iraqi Freedom.

They have ever served.

At the Veteran's Day service at Arlington, I heard the young Navy sea chanter sing "You lift me up, so I can stand on mountains". They have and will forever more.

God Bless our men and women.

504 thanna  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 5:20:27pm

To all the veterens - I say Thank You. And most of all, to my Dad, my three Uncles and my Aunt, who all served proudly in the armed services. I am forever in their debt.

505 ggt  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:04:28pm

There is a link to a wonderful Marine Tribute at [Link: www.geekwitha45.blogspot.com....]

Sorry I have forgotten any HTML I ever know and also if this has been posted before.

Thank GOD, Thank GOD, there are American's willing to serve!!!!!!!

506 superdawg  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:16:04pm

BIG THANKS to my Great Uncle Ed King (WWII) from Chicago, and my Uncle Bob Twarogowski (Viet Nam) from Chicago. You are great men. Godspeed to all the troops!

507 Victor  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 6:21:42pm

What a beautiful thread, read it all. Let me add my thanks to all who have served, my appreciation for the sacrifices made, and prayers for those now in harms way. God bless you all.

And now, if you don't mind, Mr. Lincoln would like to say a few words:

"Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battlefield of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

But in a larger sense we cannot dedicate, we cannot consecrate, we can not hallow, this ground. The brave men living and dead who struggled here have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us, the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."

Amen.

508 Phantom  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:01:44pm

Several of us spent a very long lunch hour watching the parade in downtown Houston today. We do it every year....the least we can do to honor our Vets.

God bless all y'all, God bless W.

509 Conagher  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 7:36:56pm

Just how many Lizardoids are in Houston? There's got to be at least ten of us!

510 MichelefromLA  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:50:25pm

In just minutes Veterans day will be over, so I wanted to post something before the day ends.

Until 9/11/01 I really took living in this country for granted. That morning I realized just how quickly our security is not something that happens without people willing to defend us. I know that it takes a special kind of person who will put their life on the line so that we can all live in freedom and safety. And I thank you all for everything you've done for our country - the only country In which I choose to live; though I've lived in quite a few as a child.

Tonight I attended my daughter's YMCA youth and government meeting. The man that has run the organization for years mentioned that just today he received a phone call from one of the YMCA kids who is now an army medic in Iraq, named Kevin. He said that Kevin always wanted to join the army because he appreciated his country so much. Kevin asked that he remind the kids at the Y to appreciate everything, especially considering his perspective of Iraq.

When I told my daughter about Kevin's phone call, she told me that she got to know him well last winter at the Y's snowboarding camp.

Last winter he was just a kid snowboarding, now he's saving lives in Iraq. Wow...some boys grow up to be men real fast.

Thanks to all the veterans and to all the men and women in Iraq right now. I appreciate everything you've done and are doing - you are all very special people.

511 Infidel and Proud  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 9:54:13pm

To those Vets with us, and those who are not, and those who were made today.
Hand Salute.
Ready...two.

512 Infidel and Proud  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 10:00:26pm

#465 Pilot's Wife
He drove Aardvarks in GWI? My hat's off to him.
What's he driving these days?
Hopefully a good ride - with two motors. ;-)
Just call me Brownshoe.

513 Rose  Thu, Nov 11, 2004 11:50:24pm

At the going down of the sun..
England:

If I should die, think only this of me:
That there's some corner of a foreign field
That is for ever England. There shall be
In that rich earth a richer dust concealed;
A dust whom England bore, shaped, made aware,
Gave, once, her flowers to love, her ways to roam,
A body of England's, breathing English air,
Washed by the rivers, blest by suns of home.

And think, this heart, all evil shed away,
A pulse in the eternal mind, no less
Gives somewhere back the thoughts by England given;
Her sights and sounds; dreams happy as her day;
And laughter, learnt of friends; and gentleness,
In hearts at peace, under an English heaven.

Rupert Brooke, War Sonnet V, The Soldier

GOD BLESS ALL WHO SERVE and KEEP YOU SAFE
and God be with their families and give them strength
WE OWE YOU

514 Rose  Fri, Nov 12, 2004 12:04:02am

My late dad's birthday 11-11-1911
He lost his father at the age of 3 when is fathers ship was sunk by a torpedo off the coast of Jutland Oct 15 1914 leaving a young widow and 5 children under 11 years
My Great Uncle a POW in WW1 and sent to the salt mines in Silesia after being poisened with Mustard gas and then one of the first to undergo biological and chemical experimentation that caused him terrible suffering until he died in 1962.His pilot son lost over the north Atlantic
and my mothers fathers 8 brothers, all under 27years who never returned from WW1, it was never spoken of until 1980's the pain still too acute.

To them my gratitude for a blessed life and to all serving now my most deep and humble thanks
May God keep you safe- I love you all

515 Curt  Fri, Nov 12, 2004 5:35:47am

#512 Infidel and Proud;

Semi OT:

In case you come back:

Cool fact from the Asst Wing Commander of the guys who bombed Libya in '86 (it was in the appendix of his book, which I belive was "The Bombing of Libya.")

F-111s were 11% of airframes in Desert Storm, but accounted for a little over 50% of the tank kills.

The once way ahead of it's time technology of the aircraft came into it's own in that shoot 'em up. It just got overshadowed by the f-117 for the PR value (you know how those DC program managers are!)

Just call me "shoe" who was unlucky enough to not have 20/20 and was too far along when they decided 20/200 for NFOs was good enuf to move to the front seat when all the pilots went to the airlines in the late 70's...


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