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By: Charles Johnson • Nov 12, 2004 at 9:21 am PST
Robert Spencer has created a map showing the countries of the world in which jihadist activity has been reliably reported: Tiny minority of extremists world map.
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By: Charles Johnson • Nov 12, 2004 at 9:21 am PST
Robert Spencer has created a map showing the countries of the world in which jihadist activity has been reliably reported: Tiny minority of extremists world map.
251 comments
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d_on_a_palehorse Fri, Nov 12, 2004 7:24:32am |
Then it's clear as water. We kill the bastards and live happily ever after
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monkeyweather Fri, Nov 12, 2004 7:26:53am |
Wow! Look at all the moron idiot retard countries in red!
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HUSKER Fri, Nov 12, 2004 7:28:25am |
Someone needs to make a map of all the people who ever experienced hate. Oh wait, then the whole planet would be red. All this map shows is that throughout history people haven't had the balls to confront this for what it is. And almost half our country thinks the way to fight it, is to lay down for it.
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MichelefromLA Fri, Nov 12, 2004 7:29:47am |
I suppose Al Gore is right...there is global warming -
The world is inflamed with Islamic terrorism.
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save the fox Fri, Nov 12, 2004 7:30:03am |
#7
I guess a posting there would constitute the short straw.
"Well, Honey, did you get Hawai?"
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Sheet o' Glass Fri, Nov 12, 2004 7:30:04am |
The US kinda looks like our electoral map!
Without the islamo-fascism aspect.
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Boy Hits Car Fri, Nov 12, 2004 7:30:20am |
Although the map makes a big statement of how far reaching terrorism has become, it is not a very accurate depiction of the number of jihadis. I mean, if you have one incident in Australia with about 20 jihadis, the whole country gets marked as red. Not exactly good evidence of mass-supported jihadi-ism.
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Sol Roth Fri, Nov 12, 2004 7:32:42am |
Map is wrong. Uruguay is infested with Al-Qaeda along the Brazilian border. Especially the little town of Chuy. It is a major source of quiet funding funnelled to our enemies.
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Sheet o' Glass Fri, Nov 12, 2004 7:33:16am |
Greenland? I'll stay here with my assault weapons and fight the jihadis if they want some. fleeing the USA is for liberals and pu$$ies alike.
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Norwegian kafir Fri, Nov 12, 2004 7:33:41am |
Dutch parliament seeks limits on employment of imams
Hizb Allah: Our drones can hit Israel
Islam under attack, cleric says during Lincoln visit
A Muslim imam who is visiting Lincoln during the holy fasting month of Ramadan said Thursday he believes Islam is under attack from the West.
Papers across Europe are keeping a close eye on the situation, with multiple references to Europe in the 1930s—wherein the Muslim side either represents the Nazis or the Jews, depending on whom you ask.
An online war for hearts and minds
The battle for Muslim minds is not being fought by radicals in Falluja or in the mosques. It is being fought on the net. There are hundreds of websites, blogs or e-groups which loosely count as being radical in nature, many aligned to the fundamentalist worldview known as Salafist preaching. There are of course many others propagating more mainstream visions of Islam. Between them, they compete for young European Muslims looking for signposts to their identity.
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stefania Fri, Nov 12, 2004 7:35:25am |
New Fatah head vows to continue seeking for Israel's destruction - (the Arafat's path, in his very words )
Kaddoumi vows to follow in Arafat's path
Some excerpts:
Kaddoumi said Arafat had left behind a generation of Palestinians who will "work towards the fulfillment of his dream that a Palestinian boy will fly the Palestinian flag above the walls of Jerusalem."
and the world's "leaders" paid respects to this Nazi Fascist...
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Norwegian kafir Fri, Nov 12, 2004 7:37:40am |
2.0 Military Training is an Islamic Obligation not an Option
According to the verse above ("And prepare against them all you can of power..."), military training is an obligation in Islam upon every sane, male, mature Muslim, whether rich or poor, whether studying or working and whether living in a Muslim or non-Muslim country. The Prophet (SAWS) explained the meaning of the term 'power' in the above verse during a Friday Sermon by mentioning that power was specifically shooting.
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Sheet o' Glass Fri, Nov 12, 2004 7:38:58am |
Lets just say, for arguments sake, that Islam coquers the world. Who the hell would they kill then? They would be beside themselves, twiddling their thumbs. I mean they've mastered technology, personal hygeine, and now the world. Whats next? suicide for sport?
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lawhawk Fri, Nov 12, 2004 7:39:20am |
Japan should probably be colored in as well:
[Link: www.jihadwatch.org...] it has been used as a transit point in the past, and has borne witness to mass casualty attacks as well (via the Aum cult's sarin subway attack).
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monkeyweather Fri, Nov 12, 2004 7:39:48am |
#17 Sol Roth
Yep - I heard that Al Qaeda is stationed in Uruguay, able to buy ANYTHING they want (bribes can get passports & all kinds of support), then they follow the Mexican smuggling routes north into the US.
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Conagher Fri, Nov 12, 2004 7:39:59am |
There's countries the tiny minority of Muslim extremists haven't infiltrated? Someone's falling down on the job!
#16 griepenm
Pal, get lost. I read your blog and it wasn't any great shakes. Go advertise somewhere else.
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z Fri, Nov 12, 2004 7:40:20am |
Off the main subject. I have a question. Would someone please tell me what a mortar is? You see, I've seen reports of soldiers saying they were taking mortar fire. And so I thought a mortar was some kind of home-made device used by the terrorists. I just saw a report about the battle of Fallujha and it said U.S. forces responed with mortars. So what are these mortars? What do they look like? Is it the same thing as an RPG? I know what an RPG is, thanks to Duke Nukem. Would someone with some weaponry expertise answer my question? Thank you.
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Havoc Fri, Nov 12, 2004 7:40:25am |
They should add Ireland, Outsourced Jihad, of Mohamar for decades against the Brits.
The REAL IRA hasn't given up, nor have they given up 2.5 tons of Semtex they got from Mohamar, and use as catalist in sugar/fertilizer bombs.
[Link: library.nps.navy.mil...]
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Poitiers-Lepanto Fri, Nov 12, 2004 7:41:08am |
This map is the best help for our trolls, when they don't understand the words
WORLD WAR
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Atlas Wannabe Fri, Nov 12, 2004 7:41:41am |
From one of the postings on the thread link
ISLAM MUST Gogh
Our new rallying cry?
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stefania Fri, Nov 12, 2004 7:42:16am |
Congratulations to the Iranian people:
Millions of Iranians boycott the anti-Semite "Ghods" rallies
Millions of Iranians boycotted today the sham show of force and anti-Semite "Ghods" rally, organized by the Islamic republic regime forcing it to bring more "professional" demonstrators and forced young school students and governmental employees, especially from the security forces and army, to compensate the lack of popular support.
Pressures, Free food, pocket money and promises of welfare didn't work and in Tehran alone, with over 12 millions of inhabitants, the regime was not able to bring more than 70 or 80 thousands of "demonstrators" who were carried by buses, placed under the supervision of the Islamic Propagation Office and other organisms affiliated to the clerical leadership, to the seven designated points of departure of the rallies.
The "Ghods Day" (Jerusalem in Arabic language) was instated, in 1979, by Rouh-ollah Khomeini who made of Israel the first target of his newly created theocratic regime. But with its boycott, Iranians showed once again the rejection of Khomeini's dark legacy and any hate or discriminatory action. They also showed in another disobedience move the total rejection of the Islamic republic regime which had placed big hopes to play the good feelings of Iranians in order to create a show of force in its current unprecedented needy time.
It's to note also that many Iranians are well aware of the current repressive role played by paid Palestinian elements involved in the regime's security forces.
In addition, Iranians also remember the well remunerated and armed role of Yasser Arafat, the dead Palestinian leader, and his terrorists in supporting the Iranian mullahs by helping them in the victory of their Islamic revolution. Many suspect Arafat's Fedayins hidden role of having been involved in creating the Sep. 1978 Jaleh Square shoot out during which tens of protesters and members of the Iranian Imperial Army were killed by thinking that the other side has opened fire. Worst of all, Iranians can't forget that the same Palestinian leadership and fedayins were later involved against Iranian soldiers by siding with Saddam's forces and how in addition to receiving huge financial and logistical remuneration for such aggression, they were also targeting to detach the Iranian province of Khoozestan.
Arafat had answered, to an astonished French reporter wondering on his sudden change of side, that "Iranians are our friends but Iraqis are our Arab brothers".
The Movement had called, earlier and for the 4th consecutive year, for a massive boycott of the governmental rallies of "Ghods Day". Several interviews were made with its members, in the last days, and the SMCCDI's official statement was broadcasted by several abroad based sources, such as, the popular Voice of Iran (KRSI), NITV, Pars TV and Azadi Satellite Networks.
In addition, the SMCCDI Coordinator lectured the full statement and call for boycott on the wave of the well listened Radio Voice of Israel (Persian Service) on Wednesday. The recorded program is available in the archive section of Radio Israel's website (Part III of Wednesday from minute 12':40"): [Link: www.radis.org...]
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Sheet o' Glass Fri, Nov 12, 2004 7:42:42am |
#30 atlas
mussie clerics would find that racist.
/do i need a tag?
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Blackhorse Fri, Nov 12, 2004 7:43:01am |
#8 Bigel
authorities forbade any Jewish symbols, including the Star of David and the Israeli flag from being displayed.
The persecution of the Jews is never ending. What a very sick world we live in, where evil is called good, and good is called evil.
May the Judgment of G-d come.
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gumble Fri, Nov 12, 2004 7:44:11am |
Check out this op-ed by Jimmy Carter in the New York Times:
When given a chance by Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin of Israel, Mr. Arafat responded well by concluding the Oslo Agreement of 1993, which spelled out a mutually satisfactory relationship on geographical boundaries between Israel and the Palestinians. The resulting absence of serious violence by either side was broken when a Jewish nationalist assassinated Mr. Rabin.
Does anyone have statistics of violence against Israel during 1993-1995?
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Sheet o' Glass Fri, Nov 12, 2004 7:45:52am |
Dhimmi Carter is a serious nitwit. The whole G-D left has its head either up its ass or in the sand!!!
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Havoc Fri, Nov 12, 2004 7:46:44am |
#27 It is a man-portable artillary tube that lobs finned heavy shrapnel grenades, in a high arc to tarets
[Link: www.army.mod.uk...]
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greenmamba Fri, Nov 12, 2004 7:48:48am |
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Conagher Fri, Nov 12, 2004 7:49:37am |
#38 Havoc
It's womyn-portable too, you chauvanist pig!
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RedWhiteAndJew Fri, Nov 12, 2004 7:49:52am |
New Zealand is clean as well.
Things will change when the cattle-huggers discover just how many sheep are there.
Lock and load, Kiwis and Maori!
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Norwegian kafir Fri, Nov 12, 2004 7:49:56am |
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Ringo the Gringo Fri, Nov 12, 2004 7:50:20am |
Is it possible that their is no jihadist activity in Oman?
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Bayonet Fri, Nov 12, 2004 7:50:30am |
I guess the question is, have we sufficiently REDUCED the ACTIVE jihadist population, or do we need to increase our activities? My, guess is that we'll have to keep reducing their number until they convert to Judiasm.
BTW Anyone have the LINK to the video of the
dead-of-night airstrike on the terrorists swarming out of the buildings in Falluja? I can't find it.
Thanks mucho in advance!
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Momzilla Fri, Nov 12, 2004 7:53:56am |
Jimmy Carter is still ticking me off. I've voted twice in my lifetime against that moron, and the second time it finally took.
Most of the problems we have in the mideast and Asia today are Carter legacies. Why does this man still have a voice in American politics? A VAST majority of Americans rejected him in 1980. That turd just refuses to flush!
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Blue Falcon Fri, Nov 12, 2004 7:54:46am |
#27 Mortars are man portable artillery peices carried by light infantry. They can fire indirectly at targets, essentially lobbing rounds over objects, without having a line of sight if being spotted for by forward observers. A mortar shell looks like an RPG round with fins in the back and is fired from a tube at a variable angle, picture about a 75, on a bipod type mount. Various sizes 50-83mm with range determined by the size of the charge in the shell and the launcher itself. The effect is similar to some type of fragmentation missile raining down from above, very nasty and scary as all hell.
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Road Rage Fri, Nov 12, 2004 7:57:15am |
When the shit comes down does red mean you’re in a target rich environment?
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Sheet o' Glass Fri, Nov 12, 2004 7:58:34am |
#48
not necessarily, but you could try a local mosque.
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Havoc Fri, Nov 12, 2004 7:59:25am |
#40 Conagher
Not with MY daughter it isn't, future Navy Corp ER Nurse in forward combat theater hospital.
That is Unless she has to grab a rifle and mortar tube to protect her wounded.
-- She can do 3" patterns at 100 years. Good girl.
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Beagle Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:02:15am |
Get ready to red pen the little white patch in Europe. It won't be long. By the way, if you include terrorists who planned in those nations, but splodeyed in other nations, one could red pen already.
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ferris Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:02:33am |
No wonder I enjoyed spending 6 weeks in Chile this spring. No Islamo-Facists and no Islamic ass kissing dhimni.
It's snowing here and almost summer there, might be time to head back.
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Conagher Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:02:37am |
#51 Havoc
She can do 3" patterns at 100 [yards].
Damn, who needs mortars when you can knock the wings off a fly at 100 paces? :)
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Sheet o' Glass Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:03:24am |
Lets not get carried away, devouted muslims are abhorrent to homicide.
/tekkayeh mode
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Road Rage Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:04:11am |
# 50
not necessarily, but you could try a local mosque.
I thought a mosque was a free fire zone?
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Sol Roth Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:05:00am |
#25 monkeyweather 11/12/2004 09:39AM PST
#17 Sol Roth
Yep - I heard that Al Qaeda is stationed in Uruguay, able to buy ANYTHING they want (bribes can get passports & all kinds of support), then they follow the Mexican smuggling routes north into the US.
Don't know about smuggling into US, but the shops along the border are populated w/Jihadis and Chuy is close to the Atlantic and Brazil where they have escape/smuggling/safe haven routes.
Cavaeat, my intel is >10 years old.
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glwing Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:05:24am |
#54 ferris
It's snowing here and almost summer there, might be time to head back.
You must be "down under", correct?
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Bob G. Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:05:48am |
Proving once and for all that we are able to locate our assholes with both hands and a ROPmap.
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Bob G. Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:08:30am |
Well what do you know, Madonna was right. Terror is everywhere.
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Sheet o' Glass Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:08:35am |
#58
They will be free fire zones, and on fire zones.
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scaramouche Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:08:45am |
I guess the jihad passes "the global test".
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Conagher Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:10:08am |
#61 Bob G.
Proving once and for all that we are able to locate our assholes with both hands and a ROPmap.
Our assholes are mainly in the Democratic Party and at your local mosque.
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Road Rage Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:11:51am |
#63
They will be free fire zones, and on fire zones.
I think I'm getting it now. All I can say is COOL
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gumble Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:12:47am |
#39 greenmamba
Thanks for the link.
So according to Jimmy Carter, between September 13, 1993 to November 4, 1995 these attacks against Israel were not serious:
Apr 06, 1994 - Eight people were killed in a car-bomb attack on a bus in the center of Afula. HAMAS claimed responsibility for the attack.Apr 09, 1995 - Seven Israelis and one American were killed when a bus was hit by an explosives-laden van near Kfar Darom in the Gaza Strip. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.
Apr 13, 1994 - Five people were killed in a homicide bombing attack on a bus in the central bus station of Hadera. HAMAS claimed responsibility for the attack.
Jul 24, 1995 - Six civilians were killed in a homicide bomb attack on a bus in Ramat Gan.
Aug 21, 1995 - Three Israelis and one American were killed in a homicide bombing of a Jerusalem bus.
Oct 19, 1994 - In a homicide bombing attack on the No. 5 bus on Dizengoff Street in Tel-Aviv, 21 Israelis and one Dutch national were killed.
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vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:12:47am |
In an earlier life, I was a mortar platoon leader, so...
An earlier poster listed sizes, mortars have traditionally been anywhere from 45mm (crappy WW2 Japanese knee mortars) to 4.2 inch (120mm).
What makes mortars especially nasty are several qualities: 1) they have a bigger bang per pound of shell than do artillery rounds (because of the low pressures involved, the casing can be thinner leaving more room for explosive). 2) Their high angle of flight means they tend to come straight down on you (so the wall you are hiding behind means nothing. and 3) they make zero noise in flight, so the shell lands and you don't even know its coming at you.
Oh, and all those war movies that have the mortar making a "bloop" sound when it fires are dead wrong...they are very loud when they fire. :-)
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Conagher Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:14:20am |
#65 song_and_dance_man
50 Road RageI thought a mosque was a free fire zone?
Depends on who's got fire.You can fire from, but not at the mosque.
Technically, the Marines should be able to take control from a mosque and fire from it, thus making them totally immune from international law and scorn. Right?
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glwing Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:15:42am |
69 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Didn't see you yesterday so Happy Belated Veteran's Day.
We honor your service :)
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grayp Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:16:40am |
#70 Smug Monkey
I don't trust anything Scheuer says, especially when he's saying it on 60 Minutes. The guy's a sleezeball
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scaramouche Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:17:06am |
OT - The Fish is gone, but the moobattry at American university campuses lingers on.
[Link: www.michigandaily.com...]
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Kragar (proud to be kafir) Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:17:34am |
#71 Conagher
Technically, one might assume that if the terrorists had already used it as a base, the Marines could co-opt it when cleared.
Realistically, not a chance. Thats why we have the ING commandos storm the mosques.
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vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:17:59am |
#72
My pleasure...happy to do it again if the need be.
Good to see the USMC kicking some serious "all-turbin, no Jihad" ass on 11 Nov...
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Road Rage Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:18:11am |
# 71
65 song_and_dance_man
50 Road Rage
I thought a mosque was a free fire zone?
Depends on who's got fire.
You can fire from, but not at the mosque.
Technically, the Marines should be able to take control from a mosque and fire from it, thus making them totally immune from international law and scorn. Right?
Damn a solution I love this site!
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Arctic Fox Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:18:41am |
While it is useful to remind each other of the significance and inherent evil of Islam (it really is NOT reformable without destroying its basic tenets and ideology), it is crucial that we reach out to the rest of America.
It is especially important to counter the idiocy prevalent in the public schools of presenting Islam not merely as benevolent, but a desirable alternative to Christianity and Judaism.
One way is to encourage larger numbers of people to home school, but that is the burden of another thread.
I'd like to see some of our sharper members propose practical, and immediate, methods of achieving the objective of providing accurate descriptions of the danger Islam poses to everyone.
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hornet Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:19:16am |
OT..[Link: www.israpundit.com...]
Arafat's death certificate says he was born in Jerusalem
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Nancy Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:22:13am |
Greenland is about 81% ice-capped. Vikings reached the island in the 10th century from Iceland, 80 percent of the population are Inuit. Climate: arctic to subarctic; cool summers, cold winters. Population: 56,384 (July 2004 est.) (about the size of Texas)
[Link: www.cia.gov...]
Translation: No "Jihad" advantage.
Climate is too harsh, economy is primarily fishing-labor and if they wiped out the 56,000 natives, they would have no dhimmi's to work for them, no "subjects" to oppress and they would all have to become hard-working fishermen!
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Kragar (proud to be kafir) Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:22:14am |
#78 American Infidel
Yes, a concussive blast, if powerful enough, can kill a man easily. The shockwave of the blast can break bones, shatter ear drums, and easily throw a man a good distance. Landing alone can kill him if he comes down wrong or impacts on an obstacle.
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vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:22:14am |
#78
While the main way of killing with a grenade (let alone a Claymore :-) is fragmentation, blast can kill or injure...and WP uses "fragmentation" that sets things on fire...
Any of these things can ruin your day.
Today, grenades have embedded steel fragments that are its main weapon against soft targets...remember the WW2 "pineapple" grenades you see in movies with the facets on the outside? Those were designed to come apart in chunks.
The idea was to not be there when the chunk goes by (not that you have much control over it). ;-)
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hornet Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:24:24am |
[Link: www.israpundit.com...]www.israpundit.com...] target="_blank">
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grayp Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:25:07am |
Arctic Fox
I'd like to see some of our sharper members propose practical, and immediate, methods of achieving the objective of providing accurate descriptions of the danger Islam poses to everyone.
Good Luck. There was an entire thread several weeks ago about kids from the local Islamic school traveling to elementary schools in Herndon, VA to do some PR. Tons of us wrote to authorities - I wrote to 3 myself. I got no response. Nada. Crickets.
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Havoc Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:25:16am |
MomZilla
He's an ICON of the left. They trott him out when he isn't doing his own smarmy activity.
He was "retired" at a fairly young age. So he wouldn't take the hint that his his 4 years in the "most powerful office in the world", was an utter failure. So he had to invent a purpose for the rest of his life. Growing peanuts, and looking after his nutcase brother wasn't enough.
So like baby seals, he's an ICON for the left, a little religious shrine certain factions can flock to and pray to.
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glwing Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:25:46am |
hornet
Put the http address in the "link" and then the wording you would like for the link in the next window that opens.
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Ed Moran abu GOMEX aob 26.5C Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:25:49am |
Good deal, South Korea is not "red", and I have been drunk there.
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Kragar (proud to be kafir) Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:26:17am |
#78 American Infidel
and as #84 pointed out, that is if by some miracle the shrapnel some how missed you. They're designed to throw out as much shrapnel as possible.
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hornet Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:27:29am |
Son is at work, I'm the computer illiterate generation, need to link in blue. sorry Can anyone help?
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glwing Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:28:40am |
Another question:
How far do they travel--what is the range of a mortar?
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gumble Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:29:45am |
Oh, here's another ridiculous statement by Jimmy Carter in that op-ed:
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
Another deeply disturbing change is the decision by Hamas and other militant factions to resort to suicide bombings and other acts of terrorism, whereas the hope for peace and justice discouraged such violence eight years ago
Wow.
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Ed Moran abu GOMEX aob 26.5C Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:30:29am |
Ringo the Gringo
Although I wasn't able to procure alcohol in Oman, I can also confidently report that I was not beheaded, nor even simply stoned, during my short stay there.
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Kragar (proud to be kafir) Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:31:16am |
#94 American Infidel
So, hiding behind something (thick, like concrete) or in foxholes is a good way of avoiding the results of such explosions...
Exactly, but the point of mortars is they basically drop straight down. That means if they drop in your hole or on your side of a wall you're hiding behind, you are screwed.
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grayp Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:32:56am |
havoc
above the box in which you enter your post in on the right you'll see in blue the word "Link". Click on that. A window will open and you enter the URL in that window. Click OK and another window will open for the text you want to use for the link. Click OK again a voila!
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glwing Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:33:03am |
hornet
I answered you above.
Where you comment, open the "link" paste in the http address. Once done, hit the "OK". Another window will open where you type in what you want the link to be called. Do that and hit ok again.
It will show up in your comment window.
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soonerborn Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:34:44am |
Charles,
Here is a link to a great resource for terrorism. I gave it the litmus test (Arafat = Terrorist) and they have a very large amount of info and extremely organized way of presenting it.
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Havoc Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:35:45am |
glwing
it's in the first sentence
[Link: www.army.mod.uk...]
The battle-proven L16A2 81mm Mortar delivers accurate High Explosive (HE), Smoke or Illuminating rounds out to a range of 5650m
in American standard measure -- that's up to about 3 miles.
As opposed to standard Howitzer and Paladin Howitzer artillary which have a range of 17-18 miles
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grayp Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:36:32am |
hornet, not havoc!
jeez. See, don't worry about being computer illiterate, just worry about being illiterate. Like me.
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N.A. PALM Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:36:58am |
Can we impeach a former president? We can? Oh goody, lets start with Jimma Cotter.
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glwing Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:37:11am |
Thanks, Havoc.
I should have not been lazy and simply opened the link ;)
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dustyroadguy Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:37:32am |
This is definitely an interesting map, however I wish the areas constituting acts of terriorism had been colored Blue not Red...
Some moonbat will think it is representative of republican control of the world...
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vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:37:57am |
#92
Depends on the size (duh, right?)...the modern 81's I had worked a effective range of a few miles or so...they could lob a shell further, but it wouldn't be very accurate. Memory is fuzzy on exact distances.
Different types of rounds have different ranges, too.
The little 50 and 60mm mortars can go out to some 3,000 meters or less. In WW2 this might be only a few hundred meters because of the way they were used.
The big Four-Duece mortars can go out a long way...guessing about 5-8 miles. Don't know for sure, never did anything with them. They are big.
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Aquatic Cadaver Dog Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:39:58am |
What we need on that world map is a county-by-county breakdown--that would be eye-opening.
Actually, what we need is a map pinpointed with all the mosques. That would be more revealing.
Are there mosques in Texas?
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soonerborn Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:40:34am |
#106 Song and dance man
The more I look at that the more I like it. You can make graphs, charts etc. Its got tons of info.
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glwing Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:40:56am |
Oh goody. Jidahist rap is hitting the States!
FOX talking about it now. You will not believe the video that goes with it.
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grayp Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:41:46am |
#102 soonerborn what a great link! It's bookmarked. Did you see the news report they linked to?
Marines rescue Syrian driver captured with French Journos in August
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dustyroadguy Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:42:50am |
OT
New Rap Rage-- Jihad Rap
terrorism promoting rap music...
mujahadeem team-- ohio
kufar jihad-- New York
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hornet Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:43:08am |
[Link: www.israpundit.com...]
Is this an official document saying that Arafat was born in Jerusalem?False death certificate for Arafat
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SouthAmericanWay Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:43:32am |
BTW, George Neumayr has a great article today in the American Spectator:
Islamic fundamentalists received a great deal of understanding and tolerance from the Democrats. John Kerry made a point of showing sensitivity to the Islamic community and for it earned numerous endorsements from Muslim Imams.Perhaps herein lies a new strategy for the Democrats: What if they treated Christians as respectfully as they treated Yasser Arafat? What if they extended to Christianity the tolerant understanding they extend to Islam? Maybe from time to time the Democrats could refer to Christianity as a religion of peace.
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soonerborn Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:44:13am |
#113 grayp
Yes, That has to be the guy they showed on tv yesterday that had been beaten, but they didnt know who he was when it aired.
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Right Wing Conspirator Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:44:18am |
Regarding mortars (and other fun stuff :-) )- American Land Warfare Systems
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glwing Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:44:45am |
hornet
You got it :) You didn't need to paste in the http address first though
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Infidel in Atlanta Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:45:47am |
#109
The big Four-Duece mortars can go out a long way...guessing about 5-8 miles. Don't know for sure, never did anything with them. They are big.
My brother played with those. He was 2/508 '76-'79. He said they can really reach out and touch someone.
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Right Wing Conspirator Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:47:28am |
Adding on to the mortars -
Mortar Rounds/Cartridges
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Road Rage Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:48:06am |
Linda Vester on Fox discussing Jihad Rap Groups. This shit is being recorded and sold in the USA by Islamic fundamentalists.
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Show Me Sam Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:49:02am |
#15Boy Hits Car 11/12/2004 09:30AM PST
" Although the map makes a big statement of how far reaching terrorism has become, it is not a very accurate depiction of the number of jihadis."
Not the point. The jihadis come in later.
What has been going on for decades is Muslim immigration. First they move to a country, then they
have large families, then they develop a 'political voice'
and move in on the government. Don't kid yourself about
Islam being a tolerant religion. When theocracy is in place, the law in place is based on the god that is being worshipped.
# 23Sheet o' Glass 11/12/2004 09:38AM PST
"Lets just say, for arguments sake, that Islam coquers the world. Who the hell would they kill then? They would be beside themselves, twiddling their thumbs. I mean they've mastered technology, personal hygeine, and now the world. Whats next? suicide for sport? "
Think Afghanistan, think the 12 Nigerian states, think
what goes on in any country under Shari'a Law. Who 'they' kill is anyone breaking Muhammad's law.
#19An online war for hearts and minds
"The battle for Muslim minds is not being fought by radicals in Falluja or in the mosques. It is being fought on the net. There are hundreds of websites, blogs or e-groups which loosely count as being radical in nature, many aligned to the fundamentalist worldview known as Salafist preaching. There are of course many others propagating more mainstream visions of Islam. Between them, they compete for young European Muslims looking for signposts to their identity."
The Opus Die Curia, and current pope thought,
prior to the Gulf War, that the growing threat of Islam
could be with dealt with via communication technology
and strategies similar to those used successfully against Communism in Poland , but events such as the Gulf War and Bush's response to 9-11 have put more than a small kink with their plans. Rome knows all too well the threat of Islam, they just had/have a different war plan going. The back-story war going on between Islam and the Opus Dei run Curia is a fascinating one.
What one hears coming out of Rome, (and out of Chirac's mouth) should not be given too much weight nor taken seriulsy as being what is really going on
behind the scenes.
The headline stories are another matter. I am always amazed how the MSM, when reporting on the latest atrocity in Africa, the Philippines, etc. always refrains from mentioning how it is Muslims killing the Christians.
God doesn't exist in the domain of the media, so how could the MSM be expected to understand that we are in WWIII against an global enemy that want us dead, all of us, and western civilization eradicated from the planet.
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TalkinKamel Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:52:52am |
#79 Artic Fox
Day-yum, Fox, you raise some awfully good points in your post! To fully answer your question---"How do we provide accurate descriptions of the danger Islam poses"---I'm going to have set back awhile, and think.
I'll try to come with something more intelligent later, this is spur of the moment.
The schools, and the mass media, are key, in spreading the notion that Islam is just one more religion, and a very nice one at that. Kinda like Buddhism, y'know, except everybody wears turbans (or burkas). The Crusades will be dragged in, to show how brutal Christendom was, as opposed to (allegedly) urbane and tolerant Islam. While I don't excuse the Crusaders' brutality, the fact is, Christianity has a much broader, vaster history than the Crusades, and this history is never touched on. Moslem atrocities, such as the Islamic subjugation of India, are never touched on either. Kids have to be given a much broader view of history, and, yes, they have to be taught to respect their own Judeo-Christian culture. This isn't going to happen in public schools any time soon; homeschooling, as another lizardoid said, is probably a subject for a thread of its own.
Another thing---current popular culture: movies, T.V. shows, third-rate historical novels, etc. all present a very whitewashed, romanticized view of Islam, and Islamic culture. Good lord, just google the name, "Saladin" and see all the sentiment that pops up at his name! (Kinda like all the stuff they're saying about Arafat these days---which should be a warning to everyone not to take the accolades some historians heap over these Moslem heroes too seriously.)
The world in general, I think, has an over-romanticizd, over-idealistic view of Islam. This is, to a great extent, an artistic problem. It could be countered by writers and moviemakers offering us a more realistic picture of Islam, or by mining our own history, to present a counterweight to the constant LLL drumbeat of, "The West is evil!"
The literary establishment, is tiresomely "Progressive", as is Hollywood. Any Lizardoids out there know of any writers, moviemakers, etc. who counter this trend? Or want to submit some examples that they've come across, of "dhimmitude" in the arts?
(Artic Fox---just for fun, google "Kingdom of Heaven + Ridley Scott" and read about the g-dawful movie he's making about the Crusades! It does show the sort of thing we're up against! Charles ran a thread about it, many months ago.)
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bunny rabid Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:53:27am |
OT: but worth the digression...
Attention members of the Armed Forces & families: Michael Moore wants to know what you think! I am serious. On his lame website, he is soliciting letters from soldiers, veterans, and their families. Drop him a line and let him know what you think, and also let your loved ones know of this wonderful opportunity to tell the Moore-on he is a piece of $hit. C'mon LGFers, flood that fat bastards mail box!
email: soldiers@michaelmoore.com
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jaybird Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:54:21am |
To me this is a testament to the folly of political correctness, which they are adept at using against us. They are counting on us to continue to characterize the fanatics as "a tiny minority," and to bleat the platitude that Islam is "a beautiful religion of peace," to give them cover.
And hey, if they aren't in Greenland, or New Zealand, or wherever, just wait a few minutes.
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Ringo the Gringo Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:54:35am |
#96 Ed Moran
Tunisia is also not red on the map even though the PLO was headquartered there for years and more recently there have been actual terrorist attacks.
BTW, I was able procure alcohol in Tunisia...and I was once drunk there.
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SouthAmericanWay Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:57:24am |
Yes, the map is very incomplete... For instance, Bosnia and Albania are included, but Serbia-Montenegro (which includes Kosovo) isn't??? There is jihadist activity in Spain, but not in Portugal?? I doubt it.
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Jheka Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:57:29am |
O/T:
The New York Time writes pro-terrorist propoganda. Allow me to summarize:
U.S. marines are scared and confused and "bickering" in the face of the smart, stealthy, scaaary Iraqi resistance.
Oh, and check out the link in that post. Everything you need to know about today's Left fringe.
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hornet Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:57:31am |
OT. Thanks glwing . Re # 115. If the death certificate is legal, and it states Arafat was born in Jerusalem, what are the political ramifications for Israel? Can PA legally DEMAND that Arafat be buried in Jerusalem, where he was born (according to the document)?
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Conagher Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:57:45am |
#110 Aquatic Cadaver Dog
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michaelg Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:57:49am |
#89 Ed
In the interests of conserving Charle's bandwidth, would it be easier to tell us where you haven't been drunk?
Just kidding, I do enjoy your posts!
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:58:02am |
#126 Rabbid Bunny
Thanks for the link, I just sent it to my Boyfriend--a retired Marine Lt. Col, who BTW has many many friends!
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Rainman Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:58:58am |
Probably already noted in comments, but check out the cover of today's New York Post: The Arafat Lady Sings
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Ringo the Gringo Fri, Nov 12, 2004 8:59:02am |
Ed Moran,
Sorry, wrong link in my last post. Here is the right one.
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soonerborn Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:02:34am |
#89 Ed
I got drunk in South Korea also. Pusan to be exact, hey its what sailors do.
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zenbone Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:03:21am |
Interesting map.
While the LLL celebrities pretend that they are moving to Canada (while the Canadian celebrities continue to move to Hollywood) we can pretend to move to Madagascar.
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mad_scientist Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:04:38am |
from NYPost link in # 137
Suha agreed to a settlement with the Palestinian Authority that will reportedly pay her as much as $22 million a year for divulging the secrets of her husband's fortune.
She gets 22 million a year?? I am betting that she wont live to cash one check of his money...
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Beagle Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:04:50am |
In Iraq there are Chinese 160mm mortars available. I'm not sure about the range. Mostly they use the shells for IED's.
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Right Wing Conspirator Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:05:19am |
#132 hornet
Well, it isn't legal because it's false. (couldn't open the link so I am going by what you said, that Arafat was born in Jerusalem)
Anyway, that will never happen. Bury his filthy as* in his homeland - Egypt. Or don't bury, hell if I care, throw him to the "palestinians" and let them get their bloody body part souvenirs (sp).
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Conagher Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:06:38am |
#139 soonerborn
#89 EdI got drunk in South Korea also. Pusan to be exact, hey its what sailors do.
I hung out with lots of bright red Koreans while I studied in Taegu. I knew enough not to get started drinking with them. They even drunk the Aussies under the table!
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N.A. PALM Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:07:27am |
#134 American Infidel. Thank you for your terrific review of the progress of Islam. It's as good as I've seen. The crusades never ended. I have always thought that the conflict between Islam vs. everybody else will be resolved only in God's truth.
See Drudge for story about OBL getting permission from a Saudi cleric to go nuclear. He will if he can.
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GNIDAthe#seCond Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:08:35am |
arafat was not in coffin as per israeli corespondent (israeli channel)
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TalkinKamel Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:09:23am |
#112 glwing:
Unfortunately, I can imagine the jihadi rap video only too well! (Gag! Shudder! Awk! Retch!)
Artic Fox:
Now, this is the sort of thing I'm talking about; a rap song, and video, glorifying Islam, getting the same sort of attention that the lastest Brittany Spears video, obviously aimed at a young audience, and in a form (music video) appealing to a mass audience.
Can't you just imagine the hysteria that would break out if somebody came out with a Crusader rap video?
("They call me Crusader, call me in-fah-del! I don't give a d***m---Islam go to hell!")
Even if the Crusader song was an obvious parody, not meant to be taken seriously, the L3's would be up in arms about it.
Or, could you imagine anybody doing something similar, celebrating Arafat's death? ("Arafat's dead---he's so outa here! I'm laughin' and dancin' and drinkin' mah beer! DIE/TERRORIST/DIE, DIE!")
Now I'm not asking for (G-d forbid) "Crusader Rap"! What I'm asking is, why when the media, the schools, etc. are working so hard to push Islam---why isn't anybody pushing back with their own music, movies, etc., mocking and debunking this stuff? Are they afraid of ending up like Theo Van Gogh?
/And why hasn't there been more support from the art world for Van Gogh's "Submission"?
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Right Wing Conspirator Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:09:38am |
Editing my #143 to hornet - didn't mean to imply that you said that. But that is what you said the document had stated and that is what I was referring to.
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Conagher Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:12:07am |
#141 mad_scientist
She gets 22 million a year?? I am betting that she wont live to cash one check of his money...
She'd better use some of that fortune to buy some damned good non-Palestinian security. Right now her worth to the PLO is in the negative tens of millions. The selfless Palestinians will probably bless her with martyrdom. Maybe they'll do it the dignified way and leave a bomb vest in the room with her and leave her alone. That is, after they get the Swiss bank account access codes. These guys are no better than the mafia.
A woman with that much money gravely insults Muslim sensibilities.
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hornet Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:15:24am |
#143 right wing conspirator
Lawyers in France could say that the document is authentic and not false. Palis could then go to the UN (of all places) security council to get a resolution DEMANDING that Israel allow Yessir to be buried in Jerusalem at a place of the Palis choice (Temple Mount).
I hope that all this turns out to be a bad joke.
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Djinn & Tonic Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:17:40am |
The long periods of continuous daylight in Greenland means the jihadis starve to death during ramadan. It's the only safe place left.
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mad_scientist Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:18:08am |
#150 Conagher
I bet that many of Arafat's inner circle secretly loathed Suha anyway. Now that he is gone, so goes her protection. And you're right, the moment that Arafat's cohorts get the Swiss Bank account #'s, she loses her importance, and can be viewed as taking LOTS of money away from their "valient" cause. She better hide...
These guys are no better than the mafia.
Probably worse than the mafia...
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JohnSteele Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:18:24am |
#9 glwing
New Zealand is clean as well.
That's because sheep don't have opposable thumbs silly, thus no guns or bombs :-)
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armytramp Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:18:42am |
#9
Leaving New Zealand off that map is a mistake. There is a concerted effort on the part of jihadis to recruit native Maoris from prison to do their dirty work. There have been multiple anti-Jewish incidents in the country.
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armytramp Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:21:57am |
Story from New Zealand paper, October 17, 2004. Muslim extremists recruit Maoris in prison:
[Link: www.ec.com.my...]
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soonerborn Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:23:14am |
#144 Conaghar
Ahhh yes Aussies. I was in Singapore once the same time an Aussie sub pulled in and we went to a nearby by club and our crew got into a drinking match with their crew. Our CO bought all the drinks so nobody walked out of there. Then the crazy sobs wanted to go play rugby early the next morning before they left.
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Ed Moran abu GOMEX aob 26.5C Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:23:34am |
Ah, soju and Oscar on "Green" and "Texas" streets.
Tupshaydah!
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Havoc Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:24:54am |
#123 Show_me_sam
The headline stories are another matter. I am always amazed how the MSM, when reporting on the latest atrocity in Africa, the Philippines, etc. always refrains from mentioning how it is Muslims killing the Christians.
God doesn't exist in the domain of the media, so how could the MSM be expected to understand that we are in WWIII against an global enemy that want us dead, all of us, and western civilization eradicated from the planet.
The Current World wide terror war is somewhat easier to understand, in it's true context, Piracy. When looking at the pinacle of Islamic Power in the Mediteranean, and the response of Thomas Jefferson to it, we can understand our own times. Islam's culture is only able to produce one thing -- Piracy.
America and the Barbary Pirates: An International Battle Against an Unconventional Foe
We are dealing with a centuries old Cult Religion, that produces very little of significant value, but has relied on Piracy for it's existance from the beginning; Mohammed was in essence a land Pirate.
Read Mohammed's own words, from the sacred texts and sacrd histories
If there was ever a cult religion invented by Satan to plague mankind, it is this one.
"Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary
the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking who he may devour."
At the time of Thomas Jefferson as is now, the U.S. Marines are the tip of the spear, ridding the world of piracy, at it's source.
"And that's all I have to say about that" -- Forest Gump, Veteran
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TalkinKamel Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:26:47am |
#134 American Infidel
An excellent post, and even more excellent history! My sometimes "friendly ghost", his majesty Baldwin IV of Jerusalem, salutes you, and gives you his accolade. You are now "Sir" American Infidel.
/And thanks for the book recommendation.
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Adamski Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:26:52am |
New Zealand helps the USA fight terrorism with $$ and with intelligence. It's only a matter of time until al-Qaeda tests their spines as well.
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hornet Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:27:03am |
Rayra. Check # 115, 132, and 151 and tell me there is nothing to worry about. Not picking on you, just want someone elses opinion.
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:27:20am |
#154 mad_scientist
So you're saying that Suha is the Yoko Ono of "Palestine"?
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JimmyTheClaw Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:27:48am |
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Nancy Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:28:47am |
I don't know that anyone has any "right" to be buried where they are born?
They may think that gives them leverage but I cannot think of any "right" that exists to be buried where one is born.
He certainly had a "right" to be buried in the family plot if the family still owned it.
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Ayatollah Ghilmeini Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:30:02am |
WND reports that the Al Aqsa Martyr Brigades, also called the All Assholes Martyrs Brigades are now to be know as the, WAIT FOR IT:
the YASIR ARAFAT MARTYR BRIGADES!
what more can one say about this group?
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Ed Moran abu GOMEX aob 26.5C Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:30:52am |
Re: 153 & Greenland and Ramdamadingdong-
I knew a rather un-bright guy my freshman year at UT, eyes far too close together, from the Norwegian city of Trondheim (sp?)
He once told me they are far enough north for some of that long daylight thing.
Since Bombadon slowly rotates through the seasons, and the [bigoted word]s can't even drink water during daylight hours, will extreme northern Canada, Alaska, Siberia, Scandinavia, Tierra del Fuego and the South Pole remain terror free?
BTW, how do the Jews keep Chanukhah late Autumn/early Winter each year with a lunar calendar?
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Havoc Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:33:31am |
#104 grayp
Havoc's second houserule of proper care and feeding --
Thou shalt not take the name of thy dog (and legbiter) in vain.
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Sheet o' Glass Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:33:50am |
#163 Rayra
i had that suspicion. thanks for confirmming.
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JimmyTheClaw Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:35:07am |
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hornet Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:37:35am |
Question. If Yessir Arafat was born in Jerusalem, wouldn't that make him Israeli?
I am working nights, must get back to sleep. If all this is a red herring re: Arafat's death certificate, I will be happy.
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Marine Momma Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:38:32am |
I'm one of the puter illiterates here and tried to copy and paste an article here but it was too long. Frontpage Magazine (Frontpagemag.com) has a good article by Robert Maranto called 'Mourning" Arafat. It's pretty good.
Vet missing parts, I don't have the right words to thank you for your service so I'll just say, thank you. My son is a Marine who returned from Iraq a month ago. I'm sure he'll be back there too. I honor your service and unselfishness.
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michaelg Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:38:57am |
#178
Thank God! Now Greta can get a real show!
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N.A. PALM Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:39:21am |
#179 Sheet o Glass...
Did he do it? Damn right he did. Scott will fry.
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Eric Castillo Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:40:10am |
From the Credit where Credit is due files...
KOS: Arafat
But I hold special contempt for Arafat. President Clinton staked out a huge part of his presidency on achieving Middle East peace. And Arafat pissed on the biggest chance the region has ever had to achieve some sort of lasting peace for his people.
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Havoc Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:40:16am |
#178
Whew that's a relief. Then the MSM can turn it's attnetion to more important matters -
refocusing on the Jacko trial, and now Burt Reynolds palimony suit.
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Aquatic Cadaver Dog Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:41:18am |
#133 Conagher
Thanks for the info.
I got to thinking about the "Prince of the Power of the Air" and how he seems to be the "Prince of the Power of the MSM"...
Also, faith comes through hearing--talk radio.
Hey, all my Jewish friends out there--I love you madly!! And all my Christian friends love Israel.
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Sheet o' Glass Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:41:26am |
Pelican Bay P.C. or S.H.U???
my bet is P(unk) C(ity) aka protective custody.
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Conagher Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:43:29am |
#160 soonerborn
Those Aussies are plain ol' nuts. The ones I knew counted the days they were sober instead of the days they were drunk. That's why it shocked me that the Koreans out drank them. The tradition in Korea, if you've never been out with them, is once you start drinking with a Korean it's rude to stop. And since I really didn't want to be shit-faced and alone in a foreign country I spent my time watching them get drunk and get in fights. Which was quite entertaining, as they all learned taekwondo from their days of conscripted military service. I sat back and ate fried squid tentacles and watched the Koreans beat the kimchi out of each other. Good times!
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lawhawk Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:43:53am |
#172 - that does say it all. At least the AAMB was named after a place that was supposedly near and dear to the hearts and minds of Palestinians.
Now, they're simply showing their skivvies by changing the name to the YAMB - they're going to die in the name of a decrepit, vile, soulless, POS whose bloodlust was only exceeded by his greed (and I know, I should really tell you what I think of the 'fat and his minions). As with Arafat himself, AAMB/YAMB was never about creating a Palestinian state, but only about killing Jews and destroying the State of Israel. As if we needed even more proof.
Their true intentions shine through clearly once again.
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freedomsound Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:45:35am |
It's Al-Quds day in Lebanon, and Hezbollah always puts on a show:
Here they are giving the Nazi salute. And here is a children's unit of Hezbollah marching right along.
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Conagher Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:46:11am |
#178 American Infidel
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michaelg Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:46:49am |
#193
Get a life and post links to your blog somewhere else!
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Nancy Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:47:54am |
By ION MIHAI PACEPA --First, the KGB destroyed the official records of Arafat's birth in Cairo, replacing them with fictitious documents saying that he had been born in Jerusalem and was therefore a Palestinian by birth. [Link: www.israelforum.com...]
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griepenm Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:48:25am |
Get a life? Dude you've posted 200 times on this thing. That is ridiculous.
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Smith Space Technologies Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:48:37am |
#4 d_on_a_palehorse
Then it's clear as water. We kill the bastards and live happily ever after
***
To bad there is no open hunting season on Muslams here in America
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sharona Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:48:43am |
"Team America: World Police" come to life?
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Conagher Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:50:13am |
#193 griepenm
Are you the Christian educator or the music teacher? Just wondering.
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TalkinKamel Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:53:04am |
#177 American Infidel
You're right. History is repeating itself. This is Holy War for Islam, and it's going to be a Crusade for us.
I'm just wondering how long it's going to take America at large to realize this. . .
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griepenm Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:53:06am |
I'm the blogger who posts links to his own blog just like you. Sorry if you don't like that, but you do the same thing. It's not a big deal dude.
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Sheet o' Glass Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:53:25am |
conagher, heed your own advice.
/not invovled
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lone star Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:55:41am |
Forgive me if this has already been reported, but Drudge has report of :
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michaelg Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:59:09am |
#200
Dude, show us YOU"VE got a life and quit posting here.
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Conagher Fri, Nov 12, 2004 9:59:21am |
#193 griepenm
And as for posting to your pathetic blog, I presume you have an IP pointing back to me or some other modicum of PROOF? If not, I'll thank you to get the fuck out of my face.
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Sheet o' Glass Fri, Nov 12, 2004 10:05:19am |
Self Promoting Blogger #1: " your site sux"
Self Promoting blogger #2: " your site sux"
#1 "nu-uh"
#2 "yuh-huh"
and so on...
YAWN
later LGF.
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Right Wing Conspirator Fri, Nov 12, 2004 10:13:09am |
FYI - for some to read:
Q. I have a business (or website) that I want to promote on LGF because I think LGFers will be interested. Is it OK to post about it?
A. In order of decreasing acceptability:*It’s OK to put the link to it in your nickname (in the “home page (optional)” field), and it’s OK to include a link in your comment if it’s relevant (for example, if your weblog has a post about an item on LGF and you want us to see it).
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Havoc Fri, Nov 12, 2004 10:20:58am |
Anything that gives the ACLU a rash is fine by me.
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AkivaBarak Fri, Nov 12, 2004 10:21:42am |
#110
There are mosques all over Dallas/FortWorth. (Where I live.
Remember the Holy Land foundation? It was in Richardson. Also, UTA (University of Texas at Arlington) is said to stand for UT Al Aqsa due to all the middle eastern students there.
I know Austin and Houston have big populations as well. Most university towns have them due to international grants.
I graduated from college over ten years ago but had some interesting 'discussions' with so-called Palestinian students.
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Fri, Nov 12, 2004 10:22:59am |
#202 Sharona
The officer was shot in the arm, and a security guard suffered a bullet wound to the shoulder. A second security guard was grazed by a bullet.
The Fwench foreign minister issued an apology to the bullets.
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Conagher Fri, Nov 12, 2004 10:25:33am |
#220 AkivaBarak
It's a big city and college town thing. Obviously Muslims are more comfortable being around campus liberals and in large urban areas than in the vast redness of Middle America.
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TalkinKamel Fri, Nov 12, 2004 10:41:20am |
#214 & #218 American Infidel:
If we can't jettison Political Correctness, we're finished. It's going to keep us from ever naming the enemy (and that's a big part of the battle right there), and it's going to hamper even the silliest, most ineffectual efforts to resist, to fight back. As I recall, right after 9/11, before either Afghanistan or Iraq, a lot of Leftist "peace" groups were urging America "Not to strike back", or declare war against anybody.
Not to mention the silliness of the airlines' refusal to profile young, male Moslems (Who are, of course, the very ones most likely to be terrorists) because it might offend somebody, and all the foot-dragging about closing our borders. It would be MEAN, you see, and might even be racist. . .
And, yes, one of the first things I thought on 9/11 was, "Oh my G-d! VIENNA!" Yes, UBL probably miscalculated the date, but I think it's too close to just be a coincidence. . . remember, UBL is still carrying a grudge against "The Crusaders" and the "tragic" fall of Al-Andalus (Andalusia.)
A large portion of the West may have forgotten its history, but he hasn't!
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Havoc Fri, Nov 12, 2004 10:42:49am |
American Infidel
You have to wonder why the Ottoman army withdrew with a 5 to 1 advantage.
Perhaps there is a G_d in heaven afterall, and he has been strangely at work throughout history, rescuing us again, and again.
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Havoc Fri, Nov 12, 2004 10:45:16am |
The Siege of Vienna, 21 September - 14 October 1529,
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alegrias Fri, Nov 12, 2004 10:47:56am |
Question for military lgfers:
Does anyone know whether islamists invented guerilla warfare, which has a Spanish name but sure seems like a common Fallujan insurgent tactic?
It makes sense to me the Arabs might have perfected this tactic over 800 years in Spain.
HOpe we and the West can kick them back to the stone age in much less time.
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Beagle Fri, Nov 12, 2004 10:48:34am |
#207 Sheet o' Glass
do i sense a "blog jihad" coming?
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Got_truth Fri, Nov 12, 2004 11:23:45am |
France may have part of a spine afterall in recent defensive move in the Ivory Coat. Of course, they are evacuating out... I guess it was ok for them to use their air force without UN approval...
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Havoc Fri, Nov 12, 2004 11:31:13am |
TalkinKamel & American Infidel
So this is why OBL feels so dis-repspected.
What a nut-job. A clever crafty nutjob, however. Unless conventional warfare causes this network and the next five to implode, the next few years we have to reconsider the response to Nuke & other WMD.
A nuke on one or more American Cities by OBL should mean ... choose one of the following:
1) Nuke ... Iran, Syria, and N. Korea, and give Saudi Arabia 10 day utlimatum to behead all the imams, and shut down the Maddrasses and "charities", give western personnel 10 days to clear out, then Nuke sections of Saudi Arabia, e.g. major cities, Medina and Mecca first, until they comply, Occupy the country and destroy the cult religion, and of course blow up the Mosque in Morrocco and Tunisia. Let Pakistan know they get to keep Nukes, but only three and they will be under the supervision of the U.S. Btw -- Pump out the crude and Natural gas as fast as possible, and store it in the U.S., Australia, Britian, Poland, Japan and New Zealand. Give Kofi Anan & co. 24 hours to leave the country.
2) A massive MiddleEast/Asian Landwar
3) Nuke Waziristan otherwise Business as Usual, today's Pinprick
4) Your suggestion
A Chemical WMD attack on one or more American Cities, e.g. VX missiles launched from OBL junk freighters about 50 miles offshore, or just VX dirty bombs, should mean...choose one of the following:
1) Nuke ... Iran, Syria, and N. Korea, and give Saudi Arabia 10 day utlimatum to behead the imams, give western personnel 10 days to clear out, etc. etc.
2) A massive Middle East/Asian Landwar
3) Nuke Waziristan otherwise Business as Usual, today's Pinprick
4) Your suggestion
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He's dead, Jim Fri, Nov 12, 2004 11:34:15am |
Just had a great discussion last night with an avowed LLL (adoptive French parents who are both LLL professors...yyyech) about the scope and breath of the worldwide Islamist insurgency and visions of the Caliphate...she "summers in the South of France" and sees it firsthand...It's starting to get thru, at last!
Viewing the Salafist-Islamists as a stand alone threat arrayed against western constitutional liberalism (small "L") misses the more ominous indications that the movement is tied in with the marxist Left.
The recent book "Occidentalism: The West in the Eyes of Its Enemies" by does a credible job of tracing the anti-"constitutional liberalist" disease as it passed from one host to the next, settling into revolutionary Iran and Sunni Wahhabism most recently, although expressed in terms of religion rather than political economy. Not 100% on board with the authors on all points, but agree with their thrust.
In line w/ above idea and the writings and observations of guys like I.M Pacepa and other high-level cold-war defectors, what we're seeing is actually a joint venture of sorts...radical Islam replaces ICBMs; the same propaganda machine simply churns out different propaganda...but older Euro-Marxism is now underground and deeply insinuated into western life, masquerading as western secular Liberalism (big "L") but fully intending to use every advantage available to crush true freedom and democracy. The movement we helped to empower during Afghanistan was left adrift and has been possessed by the ghost of Karl Marx.
This is why the "indy" media and the controlled parts of the MSM (most of hollywood, propaganda rags maquerading as newpapers, etc) are in divide and conquer mode...it's now or never with President Bush/ GWOT raging and the European public waking up from their little nap from reality. Anyone else see this connection?
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Havoc Fri, Nov 12, 2004 11:45:42am |
American Infidel
RE: #168
What is all 'hell' breaking loose ..around the world ?... in 4000 characters or less.
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He's dead, Jim Fri, Nov 12, 2004 11:54:43am |
"War to the hilt between communism and capitalism is inevitable. Today, of course, we are not strong enough to attack. Our time will come in thirty or fourty years. To win, we shall need the element of surprise. The Western world will have to be put to sleep. So we shall begin by launching the most spectacular peace movement of record. There shall be electrifying overtures and unheard of concessions. The capitalist countries, stupid and decadent, will rejoice to cooperate to their own destruction. They will leap at another chance to be our friends. As soon as their guard is down, we shall smash them with our clenched fist"
Dmitrii Manuil'skii
Speech given to the Lenin School of Political Warfare
Moscow, 1931.
...Pre Cold-War, pre information-age sentiments, of course, but the basic idea remains. How do you defeat nuclear deterrence? Unconstrained asymmetric warfare... "superterrorism"and worldwide insurgency...no infrastructure to attack, no return address. bin Laden knows our center of gravity...economy...and undermining our economy is now his stated strategic intent.
Realistically, who do we nuke if one goes off in Downtown DC? Anyone? Everyone?
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He's dead, Jim Fri, Nov 12, 2004 11:56:52am |
ps. add Cambodia to the map...some AQ/JI Hijinks ther late 1999 early 2000 fi I remember right...
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Havoc Fri, Nov 12, 2004 12:20:40pm |
#235 O.K. my American Infidel friend,
read the bible 5 times, cover to cover in differnt translations, Check
Studied the archeology and cultural history of the bible, Check, quick study is the Ray Vanerlaan Video series but have done the long form, Check
Know very well the history of Rome as it relates to the Bible and history and spread of Chrisitanity, including the Praetorian Guard
Taught music history for a couple of years which is Cross Cultural in respect of economics 3,000 years of civilization and warfare, Check
Have read about 50 books on WW II and about 4 on russian History, Check
Yes Yes am aware that the 60,000 to 80,000 Nazi SS had the largest collection on withcraft and Santanism in the World, Check
I know all about Arafat's Uncle the Grand Mufti of Jersalem, Hitler, Berlin Broadcasts, Cairo, etc. Check,
Know all about, Marx & Engels, Lenin, Trotsky & Molutov, Stalin ad nasuem, on through the Gulags and finally Reagan's Showdown with Gorbachev., Check
Have read all of Paul Martins, works, Check
Have 6 family members who are or have been missionaries, Check, My wife went to college with Jim & Elizabeth Elliot's Daughter, Check
And yes my wife's Uncle & Family spent 40 years in Pakistan as missionaries, and others --have always said that The Appocalypse, when it happens, will come from Islam.
Have read lots & lots of detailed histories of Mohamad and his band of land Pirates, Check
So again, your response to "What is all 'hell' breaking loose ..around the world ?... in 4000 characters or less." is #236 ? So are you inclined as one of the "more religous People" ?
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lewisinnyc Fri, Nov 12, 2004 12:29:55pm |
Jihad has definitely been declared on Japan. See:
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
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Havoc Fri, Nov 12, 2004 12:59:01pm |
#242
You can't say Nuclear ...
That really scares me,
Somtimes a Brain can,
Come in quite handy ...
Now, Where have I heard that before? Hmmm ...
Careful American Infidel... you'll get labeled as one of those JesusLand types that wants to speed up the Second Coming.
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TotallySirius Fri, Nov 12, 2004 1:06:42pm |
OT anyone following activities in the Ivory Coast?
Ivory coast produces 85% of the world's cocoa beans.
The Fwench have invaded.
ITS ALL FOR THE CHOCOLATE!!!
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ferris Fri, Nov 12, 2004 3:27:46pm |
#60 glwing
Not even close to being down under...Upstate NY. We even have our own terrorism case going here. The local Mosque (read abandoned store front) was raided about 3 months ago. I guess this is the only way I'll get to live in a 'Red State'.
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Aquatic Cadaver Dog Fri, Nov 12, 2004 3:42:39pm |
#240 Havoc
For wherever the carcass is, there is where the vultures gather together (Matt. 24:28)
Doesn't it seem to you that Arafat's funeral fits this description?
On another subject, I also want to say that there is something absolutely supernatural about this character Soros. I do think all the prayers of the American people (and prayers from believers all over the world) had much to do with Kerry's defeat. But Soros will raise his ugly head again.
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HUSKER Fri, Nov 12, 2004 5:56:00pm |
supernatural about this character Soros.
Totally! He's the dude at the end of "Raiders of the Lost Ark" with the religious get-up on, the one presiding over the opening of the ark. He's also the one who has his face melted off first. Fitting, since Soros and the left had theirs melted off November 2.
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TalkinKamel Fri, Nov 12, 2004 6:00:30pm |
#231 Havoc:
Myself, I'd say that in the event of Islam nuking an American city, I'm in favor of us destroying Mecca, and moving on from there.
And, before anybody blows up anybody else, I think we should make it quite clear to all in the Moslem world that if we are attacked in that way, we WILL retaliate. This might, hopefully, make them think twice about trying anything in the first place---especially if they think they might be sacrificing their holiest city, if they do.
American Infidel:
You're right! "Nucular" is more fun!
And, yes, this does look like it's building into a GOOD vs. EVIL conflict. We live in very interesting times.
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Arctic Fox Fri, Nov 12, 2004 7:03:07pm |
#226
I rather think that the term came from the unorganized opposition of the Spanish to the domination of the French, it was memorialized in a famous Goya painting if I am not wrong. It means something like "little war".
Perhaps another poster will remember better than I if this was during the War of the Spanish Succession. This is just off the tiop of my head.
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