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-RetweetAnti-Israel, Anti-US March in Dearborn

Sat, Nov 13, 2004 at 3:36:35 pm PST

To mark the end of Ramadan, Muslims in Dearborn, Michigan held an anti-Israel, anti-America demonstration:

The al-Reuters photo caption is astoundingly biased; the “al-Aqsa Mosque” is identified without question as “Islam’s third holiest site” (a complete propaganda fairy tale), while it’s merely “known by Jews” as “Temple Mount.”

Arab-Americans carry signs and a replica of the al-Aqsa Mosque, Islams third holiest site and known by Jews as Temple Mount located in Jerusalem’s old city, during their annual ‘March for Jerusalem’ in Dearborn, Michigan, November 12, 2004. The annual march, known as Al-Quds Day, meaning ‘the holy’ the arabic name for Jerusalem, started 23 years ago to show solidarity with Palestinians on the last Friday of the Islamic month of Ramadan. REUTERS/Rebecca Cook

Here’s another picture from the demonstration with a sign reading, “Israel is genocide under direct US guide.” I don’t recognize the person in the photo held by the young boy; is this a martyr I should know?

Some more signs: “The wall must fall, justice for all,” “(US) Generosity, Israeli Atrocity,” and “No more tax dollars for Israeli aggression.”

Meanwhile, over at Getty Images, we find more photographs of this demonstration that didn’t make it into the Yahoo galleries—including some in which the marchers are carrying pictures of Iran’s Ayatollah Khomeini: Getty Images Editorial - Image Results: Dearborn.

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1 Outsider  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 1:38:42pm

Wait, aren't those Shiites?

Iran marks the end of Ramadan as "Jerusalem day".

2 Charles  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 1:40:06pm

At least some are Shi'ites, judging from the Ayatollah Khomeini pictures at Getty.

3 JWM  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 1:42:05pm

Look- moderate muslims!

NOT

JWM

4 Paco from Sefarad  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 1:42:43pm

Dearborn. Yeah, of course.

5 Dianna  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 1:43:06pm

I wonder how a riot managed not to break out. Or even a car swarm.

6 Karl Rove's Brain  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 1:43:58pm

Khomeini, WTF is this, Iran?

7 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 1:44:15pm
Islams third holiest site and known by Jews as Temple Mount located in Jerusalem’s old city

WTF is that bullshit? The Al Aqsa mosque is the shithole built ON TOP of the Temple Mount.

8 JoeSchmo  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 1:44:25pm

Uh, I am pretty sure that is a replica of the dome of the rock, not al-Aqsa. Al-Aqsa is a much less photogenic mosque next door.

9 ten18  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 1:46:13pm

And we need these people in our country for . . .?

10 Sydney Carton  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 1:46:21pm

"I don’t recognize the person in the photo held by the young boy; is this a martyr I should know?"

I would be careful of the use of the word martyr. A person who is a suicide bomber is a murderer, not a martyr (a term best used for people fed to Roman lions or assassinated in the name of peace).

11 Ann  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 1:46:37pm

I'm wondering what the number of demonstrators is. Did the MSM jump on another chance to showcase anti-American asshats, or was this a big event?

12 PostalWorker  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 1:46:41pm

#8 JoeSchmo

Either way, it would be great to see them both destroyed completely.

13 scorched earth 138  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 1:46:46pm

"U.S. hands off muslim lands"...'kay splodeydope...GET YOUR [bigoted word] HAND A$$ WIPING GOAT SMELLING FAT BOY MOLESTING AY-RAB SELF OUTTA MY STATE & COUNTRY...NOW!! You have been warned...

14 Catttt  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 1:46:54pm

I have to ask - if these guys are so hot about Muslim land, why are they in Dearborn? And who let that kid wear sandals? It's cold out!!!

15 valiantsailor  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 1:47:14pm

The only thing missing is Kalashnikoffs being fired into the air.

16 PostalWorker  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 1:47:40pm

#9 ten18

Target practice

17 ted  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 1:48:10pm

Charles,that unidentified photo looks like Al-Zaquri !!!

18 WarBicycle  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 1:48:44pm

These guys are cruising for a bruising.

19 valiantsailor  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 1:48:54pm

Oh, I forgot, hope that Homeland and FBI agents were snapping pictures of attendees too.

20 The Bruce  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 1:49:30pm

Our very own Moslem Fifth Column in living color.

A gift from our good friends, the Saudis.

21 Beagle  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 1:49:51pm

Muslims out of constitutional lands!

22 meeps  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 1:49:56pm

suggestion ...

get the f*** outta DODGE (Dearborn/wherever).

23 theheat  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 1:51:22pm

Where are the marches in Dallas, Texas, or Billings, Montana?

If no one believes these fuckstix are emboldened enough to bitch and march in America, living here as Americans, it's time they wake the hell up.

They can take their Palisigns and pseudo shrines and shove them up right up their asses. Hand each one a one-way ticket to their fucking holy land and get them the hell out of our country.

Quite simply: I want them dead or gone, and it doesn't matter which. They are no more special than any other low-life predator, and last I heard, they still shoot coyotes for killing chickens.

I know Kerry would have probably held hands with the pieces of shit while they marched, but what the fuck is Bush going to do about it? Anything? Nothing? Look the other way as if it never happened?

24 selpaw  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 1:51:25pm
“No more tax dollars for Israeli aggression.”

Tax dollars, LOL!! It is is ok however for millions to go to the PA for the purpose of perpetuating terror. {And that is where our tax dollars went...}

This little parade is the direct outcome of doing everything and anything to placate a people who hate us no matter what we do for them. And their power and gross expectations grows with every day.

25 JHW  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 1:51:29pm

#Who are the multi-culti PC diversity jerks in our government responsible for allowing these jerk-offs to immigrate to our country against the will of the majority of the people. We don`t especially have a huge demand for goat-raisers in the US.

26 mjk  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 1:51:36pm

I would like to point out that mosque is not Al Aqsa. Al Aqsa is actually a black domed mosque behind that one in the picture. That mosque is actually the Dome of The Rock. You would think a news organization could at least get that right. (sarcasm off)

27 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 1:52:47pm

#22 meeps

get the f*** outta DODGE

No offense, but thats sound like a moonbat reaction to me.

Stay and confront them and make sure they know that they aren't getting one square inch for free is the way to deal with this garbage. Confront them anywhere and everywhere.

28 ted  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 1:53:09pm

Unidentified photo definitely looks like Al-Zarqawi. !!!

[Link: newsimg.bbc.co.uk...]

29 American Infidel[deleted]  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 1:53:21pm
30 ahem  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 1:53:41pm

Apparently, the rot has been setting in at the universities for longer than we realized.

31 EddieP  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 1:55:57pm

OK for them to celebrate their holidays as long as they celebrate ours as well! Fourth of July, Memorial Day, Veterans Day, etc. Say the pledge of allegience, learn the Star Spangled Banner.

Celebrate the land of the free, don't try to overthrow it.

None of this non-assimilation shit!

32 hornet  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 1:56:04pm

Muslims in oh dear, Dearborn : MUSLIMS, HANDS OFF JEWISH LAND.

What's next? LLL, is this what you want? LIES, LIES!!

33 JohnAnnArbor  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 1:56:59pm

I live twenty minutes from there.

Joy.

34 JHW  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 1:57:00pm

Somebody needs to give that shithead in the first picture a replacement sign that says Muslim feet off US lands.

35 Marine Momma  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 1:59:12pm

Michigan went blue for Kerry so I'm not surprised.
They didn't have a pix of Arafat, I'm surprised.

36 Thomas  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 1:59:17pm

al-Aqsa Mosque, Islams third holiest site

Isnt everything their x-holiest site?

"Do not lay eyes upon that telephone pole, it is Islams 27th holiest site."

"Woe to anyone who damages Bahrains water tower, it is Islams 19th holiest site."

"Over yonder is Kuwaits only Krispy Kreme outlet, it is Islams 14th holiest site."

Im just saying.

37 Sol Roth  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 1:59:41pm

If I could shake this hangover, I might come up with something funny. The only thing that comes to mind is that my rifle won't reach all the way from Texas to Michigan. So these assholes are just going to have to hop the next magic carpet down here for some funtime with the Sol.

38 ted  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 1:59:51pm

These filthy swine will soon make a big mistake like they did in the Netherlands by killing Theo Van Gogh..However,if they think they're going through hell there now,just wait to whats gonna happen to them if they pull any shit here..

39 rtheyserius  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:00:23pm

Next thing you know, they're going to claim that America is their Holy Land and demand that we get off their property!

...oh yeah, I forgot... the whole world rightly belongs to them.

40 Europhobe  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:00:36pm

INCOMING!!

41 Mookie Wilson  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:00:57pm

Now I know how my father must have felt when he witnessed rallies of the German-American Bund in the 30's.

42 helloworld  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:01:32pm

wish i was there
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43 Highway  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:01:48pm

How come they don't have the usual toilet paper wrapped around their heads?

44 ted  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:02:02pm

36 Thomas...Right...My skid marked shorts are Islams 123,776th holiest site...

45 gymnast  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:02:04pm

Anyone get the GPS coordinates on that parade? Looks like easy one to me.

46 Cowgirl  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:03:05pm

#34 JHW, My sentiments exactly

47 jhn1  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:03:36pm

DHS needs a cameraman there with a sign " Freelancer news, show me how much you hate the US"
Deportations of illegals and pointed questions of green card holders to follow.

48 ms heather  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:03:37pm

"Hands off Muslim land"?

Get the hell out of OUR land, you murderers!

49 TimK  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:03:50pm

I did not like all the Home-Grown protesters in the late 60s and early 70s.
Now we have imported protesters!
Send them home to there native shit-holes. Syria and Egypt understand how to deal with protesters. Let them deal with these ingrates.

50 armytramp  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:03:53pm

MUSLIM HANDS OFF US LAND

MUSLIM HANDS OFF JEWISH LAND


At least they are out in public where we can see them.

51 OilStooge  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:05:33pm

Does anyone know how many people attended this fine event?

52 Teacake!  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:06:20pm

 
#13 scorched earth - amen!

And cair wonders why Americans have anti muslim feelings. / Scratching head

53 Marine Momma  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:06:32pm

#51, probably just enough to fill the cameras lens!

54 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:06:52pm

Just wondering, if 2 Muslims from different villages meet, do they tease each other:

Muslim 1) "Nyah Nyah, we got the 3,781 Holiest Mosque. How's it feel to be 4,218, loser?

Muslim 2) "Yeah, yeah, but we got a rag Mohammad wiped his ass with enshrined there"

Muslim 1) "Bring that up again and I'll go Jihad all over your punk ass."

55 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:07:19pm
56 UKid  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:07:20pm

I think they're pretty pissed about not getting Afarfish buried at the Al-Aqsa - the burial of a mass murdering terrorist there might have knocked it up to #2 holliest Islamic site!

57 hipper_than_thou  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:07:37pm

The Muslim community in Michigan is out of control. I remember watching some footage about thefts from the Salvation Army bins. Yep, you guessed it -- all Muslims.

58 American Infidel[deleted]  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:08:03pm
59 ms heather  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:08:26pm

#54

ROFLMAO!

60 Sol Roth  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:10:14pm

#54 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

LOL!

61 He's dead, Jim  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:12:57pm

# 49 TimK

The "Home Grown" protesters of the 60's and 70's were getting lots of support, $ and advice from the COMINTERN.

These "Imported" protesters are most likely here legally, some even 1st or second generation, but the question is, how much support and advice are they getting from the Left?

BTW, Tom Friedman is deconstructing Arafat on Russert/MSNBC. That's gonna leave a mark!

62 efuseakay  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:14:00pm

Muslim hands off US lands.

63 Haiku  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:15:08pm

Why are the Muslims allowed to re-write history? The Jews were in Jerusalem thousands of years before the Muslims. In fact the Koran doesn't even mention Jerusalem once. I'm sick and tired of the msm repeating Muslim lies and propaganda.

64 JHW  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:15:55pm

Both our political parties are really failing us badly on immigration reform. Most Americans are OK with controlled immigration (YOU adapt to OUR culture and laws, not the other way around) but immigration is out of control right now and illegals are pandered to.Way past time for this to stop.

65 BRAINDIRT  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:18:16pm

Looks like we could use a little more "Old Dutch Cleanser" in Dearborn to clean the neighborhood.

66 fiveofnine  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:18:26pm

I can't tell whether they were marching down Warren Ave or Michigan Ave. If it was Michigan Ave, I will have to fumigate my office. Damn the cost.

67 our gal sal  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:19:10pm

These folk need to be Protest Warrior-ed big time...

68 mj99  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:19:24pm

How about a spew alert?!!!

#36 - Beer through my nose with the "Krispy Kreme" remark, follow by

#44 - monitor cleanup needed...

I have some mold in my basement that is slizlams #1,293,845 holiest site!

LMAO

69 Ann  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:20:07pm

I just googled the question, and here is what showed up:
American Patriotism Muslim

70 Blackhorse  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:20:32pm

It's a damn shame we allow this trash to live in the United States. The only reason they are here is to infiltrate our land in hopes of converting this Country to Islam.

I don't not know the name of the islamic organization, but I read where an islamic movement exists here in the United States with the purpose of installing islamic muslims in congress.

The muslims are here as well to collect as much money as possible to support the murderous jihad of islamic terror around the globe.

islam, should and must be stopped.

71 monkeyweather  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:20:51pm

"Justice for all"???
If there were justice for ALL, that would include justice for the Jews, and terrorists and their co-conspirators would be at the end of a hangmans rope.

Careful what you ask for kid, murder is illegal HERE.

72 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:22:05pm
73 fiveofnine  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:22:09pm

The reason why Michigan went blue is in great part do the huge population of Muslims. If you subtract the muslims vote, Bush might have carried Michigan.
Hell, East Dearborn and the west section of Detroit is about 85% muslim.

74 Duck  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:22:52pm

How did we ever allow these people in our country? It is like inviting cancer.

75 zulubaby  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:23:09pm

selpaw (#24)

Tax dollars, LOL!! It is is ok however for millions to go to the PA for the purpose of perpetuating terror. {And that is where our tax dollars went...}

Isn't it amazing how that is never mentioned?

This little parade is the direct outcome of doing everything and anything to placate a people who hate us no matter what we do for them. And their power and gross expectations grows with every day.

Of course and that is why it's already too late. They're here, living amongst us, using our laws and freedoms against us, plotting and planning our destruction. With the help of the media, who give them a platform to launch their propaganda from, they will succeed. Dearborn is the first US state to become Islamic. Which state will be next?

76 [Engineer]  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:23:10pm

#67 our gal sal

These folk need to be Protest Warrior-ed big time...

Just what I was thinking. Besides, here in Dallas, it appears that the LLL has given up street protests because the PWs "spoil them" and we need something to do.

77 Megan  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:23:19pm

Those poor things, living in evil fascist America with BusHitler as president. You'd think they'd want to move back to the wonderful, tolerant, peaceful, and free Muslim countries that they came from./MAJOR sarcasm

78 kafir  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:23:23pm

Broad strokes being painted here. State may have gone blue, but some life-long democrats who were utterly and completely disgusted with their former party and its candidate did not vote for JFK (me), but for the current admin. Not all democrats (current or former) are moonbats, and not all republicans have a clue (think of Pat Buchannen). There are bright folks on all sides. Their voices get drowned out by the ranting and ravings of the egomaniacal megalomaniacal idiots.

I drove by Dearborn on the way to Greektown today for lunch. Hellas is a nice place In the parking garage on Monroe, there is some arabic graffiti on the doors. No clue what it says.

79 Elcid  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:24:03pm

Michigan

Blue State bravado, or islamists, raising their ugly heads?...Hmmm, did someone say "moderate muslims"?

80 tennis_ball  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:24:21pm

If they love their muslim lands so much, why don't they just go back there?

81 wateshay  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:24:35pm

#61 He's dead, Jim  11/13/2004 04:12PM PST

BTW, Tom Friedman is deconstructing Arafat on Russert/MSNBC. That's gonna leave a mark!

Is he going into detail about Arafat's terrorist connections? Or talking about him as a man of peace?

I've always respected Friedman, even though I don't agree with him politically. He's very good at understanding the way things are in the world, and equally good at explaining them. Just not very good at coming up with solutions. I'd be very disappointed in him if he's gone completely moonbatty, though, and drunk the "Arafat is a hero" kool-aid.

82 Teacake!  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:25:04pm

#77 Megan   LOL

83 Belize042  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:26:19pm

Wish I'd been there to tell some bystanders "You know, Arafat's body is in that model of Dome of the Rock."

Then just sit back and watch the paper mache (sp) swarm.

84 Spiritualized  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:27:11pm

Jerusalem is purely a political site for Muslims, all this 'third holiest site' bullshit has got to stop.

And that hideous gold dome is a blot on the Jerusalem skyline.

85 Albertadude  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:28:45pm

What the Hell???

This is scary that Muslims are so much in force in one locality (Dearborn) that they have no fear or shame of carrying a picture of a mass murderer like Khomeinie???

Unbelievable!!!

This is in America???

Now can even the most stunned idiotic liberal (redundant I know) admit that if Muslims EVER become a majority or close to a majority in any Western Country that we Non Muslims are ALL dead meat...including said liberals whose throats will be the first to be cut from ear to ear!!!

Oh man...do we have a fight on our hands!!!

Devon in Calgary

86 Barb Dwyer  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:29:07pm

What am I missing? I simply don't get it. If these people are sooo unhappy living in the land of "oppressors", let 'em move back home...where ever that may be.

87 SisterLeoMarie  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:29:40pm

There are Federal Hate Crime Laws designed to protect individual citizens or groups yet none against the US as a whole.

This group is demonstrating one of our cherished civil liberties, free speech, using it to espouse hate mongering against the US ironically while enjoying the benefits of living here versus where ever they came from originally.

Unfortunately for other Muslims who live here and may not have the same views it could have adverse effects against them. But the ones in the photos better realize this isn't Gaza or Palestine, act like a terrorist and you go to jail, where you don't get free speech and most likely a cell with a NeoNazi.

88 He's dead, Jim  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:30:38pm

#64 JHW

Amen. I agree with you in principle. There are only two reasons to come to America. 1. You believe in freedom, our system of government (not "democracy" but our "democratic" republic) and you want to contribute under house rules. -OR- 2. You have something (anything) else in mind.

The problem is that road is fraught with peril. Bounce abu for supporting terrorism? Easy. Bounce abu's cousins for marching in this parade...uhhhmm...who is marching because they are truly part of the problem, and who is marching because they thought it sounded cool? ACLU is all over that, and since we can't deport those bastards too, where do you go from there?

That approach would undermine support for the more critical deportations/detainments/police raids (they're coming). Slippery slope, it is.

89 Megan  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:31:14pm

Let me guess. "Justice" for all refers to Islamic justice and not actual (American/Western) justice.

90 Free Speech Is Only For über-Libs  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:31:57pm

I wonder if their toy mosque is stuffed with toy explosives?

91 Ann  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:32:52pm

#75 zulubaby

Dearborn is the first US state to become Islamic. Which state will be next?


All of those states that border Michigan!

92 richard mcenroe  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:33:04pm

Can we import some Dutch guys to Dearborn?

93 ddd  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:34:58pm
wateshay 11/13/2004 04:24PM I've always respected Friedman, even though I don't agree with him politically. He's very good at understanding the way things are in the world, and equally good at explaining them. Just not very good at coming up with solutions. I'd be very disappointed in him if he's gone completely moonbatty, though, and drunk the "Arafat is a hero" kool-aid.



He sure understood that The Saudi offer of peace was genuine. (arcasm off)

94 Catttt  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:35:21pm

The holy rock of Mt. Moriah's uses as a holy site, in order:
Jebusite place of worship
The site of the Jewish Temples (two)
The sanctuary of the Roman god Jupiter
Capped by the Muslim's Dome of the Rock by Muslim Caliph
Dome of the Rock taken over by the Christians
A Muslim shrine again.

Sounds like Jebusite lands, if we are going chronologically, then Jewish, then Pagan, and only then Muslim. The Jebusites were a Canaanite tribe, conquered by King David about 1004 B.C. They were most likely assimilated by the Israelites.

I know this is pedantic, but the Muslim assumption that these lands are theirs irks me.

I know their argument (if they bother) is most likely that it's theirs because they are right (Allah Akbar), and one can't argue with it, except in two ways: 1) convince them they are wrong about what their religion teaches; 2) force. Grrr.

95 Blackhorse  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:35:26pm

Dearborn Michigan, You must be so proud.

96 Belize042  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:35:27pm

I would add "Lovely people. Let's give them a state."

But it looks like they're on their way to having one.

97 Free Speech Is Only For über-Libs  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:35:43pm

Since America is so unbearable, when can these holy-hypocrites move back to their third world hell holes?

98 mich-again  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:37:28pm

I live just a few miles from where these people were at. I can't tell for sure who the guy in the picture is, but
Maybe it's this guy? They're always bitching about the poor deported peaceful Rabih.
And I understand the disgust over the signs because they are truly revolting, but these idiots don't have any real influence other than in their own little shithole neighborhood. They are universally disliked by both republicans and the blue collar democrats although we do we speak with them almost every day, as in, "hey buddy give me $20 on number 3 and a pack of Marlboros."

99 UKid  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:37:50pm

The Muslims in the UK aren't any better. A guy on BBC talk radio was allowed to make the point today that Hamas is a charitable organisation and should not be called terrorists.

And who says there's no such thing as a moderate Muslim?

I mean, I totally agree - Hamas very charitably runs schools to indoctrinate kids into believing propeganda that would have made Hitler proud. And amongst other things they also organise football competitions (named after the most popular suicide bomber of the moment). And I also believe mass murdering *&^^holes should be called exactly that, I don't hold with this terrorist rubbish.

100 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:37:57pm
101 RedWhiteAndJew  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:38:13pm
The Muslim community in Michigan is out of control. I remember watching some footage about thefts from the Salvation Army bins. Yep, you guessed it -- all Muslims.

They're just collecting their rightly deserved tribute from the Christian Dhimmis! Off to Hadassah next!

102 Ann  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:38:49pm

#86 Barb Dwyer

If these people are sooo unhappy living in the land of "oppressors", let 'em move back home...


They are missionaries. They can't go home until we are all converted. By force and intimidation, preferably. It's easier than putting a bunch of korans in hotels.

Uh Oh...

103 mj99  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:38:56pm

#91

All of those states that border Michigan!

NOT Ohio!

104 He's dead, Jim  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:39:53pm

#81 wateshay

No moonbattery there, 'ol Tom is delivering. Summed up Yasser's life as a "void"...talked about how Yasser had the world stage and became the embodiment of Palestinian hopes in 1974 at the UN and did nothing at all after that. He was being firm but diplomatic, and of course did not venture into more dangerous ground (like why did Yasser and Fidel wear the same olive drab third-world revolutionary uniforms? They worked for the same master!). I only watched the first few minutes, but based upon that the interview will not be well received by the LLLs and the pro-Pali crowd (was that redundant?)

105 Zack  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:40:04pm

Any shrine built on top of a known sacred site of another religion is an abomination. That's why one of the requirements for the Temple site was that it never have been previously used as either a place of worship for another religion or a burial ground. Jerusalem, Ayodhya, and many other sites are examples of deliberate desecraton by 'slims. They have further knowingly desecrated the Temple Mount by putting graves there.

Islam: religion of desecration and genocide. It's an abomination which the planet needs to be thoroughly cleansed of.

106 [Engineer]  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:40:13pm

wateshay 11/13/2004 04:24PM

I've always respected Friedman, even though I don't agree with him politically. He's very good at understanding the way things are in the world, and equally good at explaining them.

Are you going to share whatever you are smoking? It really must be mind blowing stuff.

107 Hulegu Khan  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:40:23pm

Caption:

DEARBORN, MI - NOVEMBER 12: Arab-Americans march in honor of Yasser Arafat during a previously-scheduled march to mark the end of Ramadan November 12, 2004 in Dearborn, Michigan. The march was sponsored by the Islamic Organization of America and was dedicated to the memory of Arafat after his death on November 11 at the age of 75. (Photo by Bill Pugliano/Getty Images)

Confirms that the term "Arab-American" is an oxymoron.

The two guys in the medieval costumes with turbans are Shi'ite mullahs.

It won't take much more to convince the American median voter that these scumbags must be forcibly shipped backed to their precious dar al Islam where they can commune with their 7th century roots in the Arabian desert.

108 JHW  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:41:10pm

I`ll quote a paragraph her from a book written in 1869 by an Englishman discussing the "Anglosphere"--- notably Australia ,Canada, New Zealand and the US.Have to leave aout some about the aristocratic interests always wanting to import cheap labor, would make this too long. " `What is a nation`s good?`Unrestricted immigration may destroy the literature, the traditions, the nationality itself of the invaded country, and it is a question whether these ideas are not worth preserving even at a cost of a few figures in the returns of imports, exports, and population.A country in which Free Trade principles have been carried to their utmost logical development must be cosmopolitan and nationless, and for such a state of things to exist universally without danger to civilization the world is not yet prepared". He uses Free Trade in the 19th century meaning of the term, which adds unrestrained immigration and movements of people to what we now understand as Free Trade. " Greater Britain" by Charles Wentworth Dilke, 1869

109 Expat Dutch  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:41:40pm

The Dutch are now finding out what these folks mean for the continuation of Western culture.

The lesson: don't let any more in and deport the ones that have made it into your country ASAP if they break the law. Once they finish their lengthy prison sentences, of course.

110 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:42:36pm
111 Catttt  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:43:08pm

98 mich-again

They are universally disliked by both republicans and the blue collar democrats although we do we speak with them almost every day, as in, "hey buddy give me $20 on number 3 and a pack of Marlboros."


ROFL.
I just realized the odd thing about my local convenience store - no Arab employees. Maybe because the neighborhood is orthodox Jewish? :)

112 hazzyday  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:44:24pm

Ground Zero is the 5th holiest site for these Dearborn Muslims. Washington DC the 6th. If they can't bomb it to Virgins, then they want to elect themselves there. An inch of new land for them is an inch for a weed to grow.

I wonder what the requirements are for muslims immigrating to the US? Or are they coming across the borders as illegals? If they want to be patriotic Americans fine. If not, time to get them out. They are future car bombs in waiting.

113 zulubaby  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:44:36pm

Expat Dutch (#109)

Once they finish their lengthy prison sentences, of course.

Rather not. Prison is a fertile breeding ground for Islamists, lots of converts there.

114 Iron Fist[deleted]  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:45:09pm
115 mj99  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:45:21pm

Looks like a dhimmi GOTV rally. Just a little late...

116 Blackhorse  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:46:10pm

I feel very sorry for any soldier from Dearborn Michigan coming home from fighting in Iraq to see this trash in the streets.

117 Albertadude  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:47:02pm

To 100 Ploome...

Truer words have not been spoken...this is going to get a whole lot uglier before it gets better...

Were talking many many more 9-11's and then some and civil wars across Western Civilization not too mention in places like the Sub Continent and elsewhere!

We have ignored or become complacent to the threat of the 1400 year beast known as Islam...and as you say, this is just beginning!

Devon

118 glwing  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:48:20pm

Election results for Wayne Co (Dearborn)

Bush 257,267

Kerry 596,208


Wonder how many of them voted?

119 hazzyday  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:50:18pm

An older link...ucsf palestinians on their tactics.

[Link: www.iacenter.org...]

120 wateshay  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:50:51pm

#106 [Engineer]  11/13/2004 04:40PM

Are you going to share whatever you are smoking? It really must be mind blowing stuff.

Heh. He's far from perfect, but as far as LLL's go, he's pretty bright. Of course, he has gone a lot further off the deep end in recent years, and I'll admit I haven't read much of his stuff post 9/11. Some of his older books are really good, up until the last chapters, though. Of course, when I got to the final chapters where he started interpreting solutions and went off on how it's all the Republican's fault (even though the rest of his book didn't support his conclusions at all), I stopped reading.

Now, allow me to go back to my smokes ;-)

121 Ann  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:52:38pm

#116 Blackhorse

I feel very sorry for any soldier from Dearborn Michigan coming home from fighting in Iraq to see this trash in the streets.


I am hoping that the soldier will have a flashback... -:)

122 He's dead, Jim  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:55:03pm

#91 ddd

The Saudi offer Friedman referred to may well have been genuinely extended, but remember the Saudi government is not at all cohesive and the society equally fractured.

The House of Saud is a stack of cards ready to fall, for the primary reason that the al Saud basically sold the soul of the kingdom to the Wahabbi clerics in return for them not contesting their rule.

The ruling elite got to be rich oil sheikhs, vacationing in Europe, eating BLTs (no kidding) and driving Bentleys and all that. The Wahabbist clerics got free reign in internal social matters, plus lots of money to spread their version of Islam abroad. The "arab street" got a completely disfunctional welfare state plus the muttawah (religious cops...like Taliban with a badge and a dental plan) plus no free expression plus no economic growth to go along with the population boom.

There is a pretty good battle going on between the clerics and reformers, but in the past few years the clerics have really had the upper hand.

a good SA primer here: [Link: www.economist.com...]

123 piglet  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:57:03pm

Downtown la will be busy Sunday:

RE: NOTIFICATION OF INTENDED FILMING “D-WAR”

On Saturday, November 13th & Sunday, November 14, 2004 from 5 am – 10 pm,
D-War LLC will be filming scenes on Wilshire Blvd from Grand Ave to Flower Street

A full closure from 5 am – 10 pm and posted “No Parking “ Anytime on:

 Both sides of Wilshire Blvd from Grand Ave to Flower Street
 Both sides of Hope from 6th Street to 7th Street

A curb lane closure + 3 adjacent lanes from 5 am – 10 pm on the:

 West side of Grand Ave between 6th Street and 7th Street

There will be cameras/equipment on the sidewalk, in the street and in the curb lane, driving shots with cars driving up to, by, and away from location. There will be a war scene, military vehicles, Bradley Tanks, EXPLOSIONS, full load automatic gunfire, muzzle shots, 20 MM gunfire, flash effects, squibs and spark hits.


Any questions you have can be directed to Ivo Deranha, Location Manager at
213-272-9258 or the L.A. Film Office at 323-957-1000.

On topic, me and Mr. Peabody used the wayback machine to visit the temple mount:

[Link: www.ebibleteacher.com...]

No I'll ask-her in site.

124 Buckeye Abroad  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:58:14pm

#75 zb

Dearborn is the first US state to become Islamic.

Dearborn is a city in Michigan, not a state. Its also the most heavily populated muslim community of the the US.

#91 Ann

All of those states that border Michigan!

Not happeing. Not one scorched stone of all the mosques in Ohio would be left unturned.

Don't make the mistake of equating the US with France.

125 pat  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:58:33pm

Tear down that damn Mosque (by accident of course), and rebuild the temple. That will give these slime something to march about. This constant appeasement of this death cult goes nowhere and only encourages the ignorant vermin.

126 WriterMom  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:58:45pm

Feh.

All those people's irises should be biometrically scanned by the FBI.

127 hazzyday  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:59:02pm

[Link: www.al-awda.org...]

The enemy among us.

128 He's dead, Jim  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:59:44pm

#93 ddd, vice #91

129 Blackhorse  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 2:59:46pm

121 Ann

I am hoping that the soldier will have a flashback...

I think many of us vets would support him if he did. On the other hand, he may feel his trip to Iraq was a waste.

130 Atlas Wannabe  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:00:05pm

Shouldn't that read "Anti-Americans?"

131 Atlas Wannabe  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:00:27pm

At my house we just call them bastards

132 zulubaby  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:02:11pm

Alleged Radical Chief Vanished, Dutch Say

Dutch authorities have confirmed that 13 young Muslims arrested on terrorism charges in the Netherlands after the murder of filmmaker Theo van Gogh are members of a radical Islamic group with international links and a Syrian-born spiritual leader.

It burns me that they refer to these terrorists as "spiritual leaders".

--

Remkes said the Hofstad Network, composed mostly of young Dutch Muslims of North African ancestry, has links to networks in Spain and Belgium; that several members of the group have traveled to Pakistan for training; and that its members were under the influence of al-Issar for many years.

"The number of persons and networks in the Netherlands that thinks and acts in terms of actual violence is, in our opinion, limited," he wrote. "But the feeding ground from which they spring, is broader ... it's better to think in terms of thousands than hundreds," he said.

Al-Issar went by several names, including "Abu Kaled," the Justice Ministry official said. The same name is used by al-Qaida fugitive Muhammad Bahaiah, a courier between Osama bin Laden and European cells.
133 cba  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:03:22pm

WriterMom, shavu'a tov!

Do you have access to your email, or only from work?

134 zulubaby  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:05:07pm
135 hazzyday  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:05:51pm

One thing that happened to me in this election is that I felt the need to look at people and events as friend or foe. Before the celebs started mouthing off, I never felt the need.

Sean Penn = Foe
Susan Sarandon = Foe
TIm Robbins = Foe

For foes like these protestors in the article and the celebs I need to know where they stand on litmus tests. If they can't pass them, I want to find a way to get them out of the country. We don't need any more wounds.

Anyone I see of the islam faith I would ask them if they support the Jewish state. I don't want to hear any drivel on how they are oppressed and need to be violent. They wrote their own book by accepting corrupt leaders. More like they are a nation of thugs who profess to be little red riding hood. When actually...

The ones in this country need to be catergorized. And have less rights. tough noogies to the aclu.

136 zulubaby  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:07:27pm

Atlas Wannabe, LOL!

Buckeye Abroad,

Dearborn is a city in Michigan, not a state.

A very good point :-)

137 Hulegu Khan  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:07:42pm

Here is a link to a remarkable article by Dr. Andrew Bostom in which he presents exerpts from essays written by President John Quincy Adams in 1826 for the occasion of the 50th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence. In these essays President Adams shows that he possessed a profound knowledge of the history and threats of Islam. He understood the precedents set by the Treaty of Hudaybiyah, the tyranny of dhimmitude, the purpose of the jizya tax, and understood the necessity of dealing with Moslem states, states that could never be trusted to honor their treaties, with an iron hand. He also understood the need to act unilaterally without passing any "global test".

The American people simply need to shake off the fog of political correctness that has befuddled our vision in the 21st century and we must strive to remember the wisdom of the great patriots who gave life to this nation. We knew what to do once. To defeat the scourge of the saracen who has amassed at the gates of America in the 21st century, we just need to remember our own history.

138 HULUGU  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:09:35pm

that's the dome of the rock--built by the origiator of the dhimmi contract--the seething prick-caliph omar--may a watermelon grow in his stomach--it contains calligrahy that god has no partners blah blah as a shoutout to christians that their religion sucks--it was built higher than the church of the resurrection because after all--eeesslam is one the true religion-- the al aqsa mosque is at the other end of the temple mount--its ugly and can be identified by the odor of unwashed feet as you enter through the door

139 Ann  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:09:48pm

#129 Blackhorse
You are right. It was just wishful thinking!
They get to use our many freedoms against us. We can do nothing about it. It gets frustrating...

140 ddd  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:10:20pm
He's dead, Jim 11/13/2004 04:55PM PST He's dead, Jim 11/13/2004 04:55PM PST
#91 ddd

The Saudi offer Friedman referred to may well have been genuinely extended, but remember the Saudi government is not at all cohesive and the society equally fractured.

The House of Saud is a stack of cards ready to fall, for the primary reason that the al Saud basically sold the soul of the kingdom to the Wahabbi clerics in return for them not contesting their rule.

The ruling elite got to be rich oil sheikhs, vacationing in Europe, eating BLTs (no kidding) and driving Bentleys and all that. The Wahabbist clerics got free reign in internal social matters, plus lots of money to spread their version of Islam abroad. The "arab street" got a completely disfunctional welfare state plus the muttawah (religious cops...like Taliban with a badge and a dental plan) plus no free expression plus no economic growth to go along with the population boom.

There is a pretty good battle going on between the clerics and reformers, but in the past few years the clerics have really had the upper hand.

a good SA primer here: [Link: www.economist...]


The Saudi were still paying for terrorist bombing than when they did not pay enough bribe money The terrorist attack American in Saudi the Saudi than blamed Israel


Next do not ever use a British publication here except for mark Steryn I would not trust one of them


Britain stood by and encourages Arab violence in 1920 & 30 against Jews than did not allow Jews to enter their homeland they lie about Israel all the time I suggest you go to Camera.


By the way I am Canadian and think the Brits are prime ass-hole all time, I will post typical dialogue of Brits at other sites.

141 WriterMom  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:10:27pm

#133 cba

I have e-mail at home, but don't access it very often. I don't actually get to pee by myself at home so e-mail and LGF-ing is even more difficult to manage.

142 ddd  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:14:47pm

djdemo | RE: The Role of the Press in Modern... (in reply to Neilster)

---

quote:

ORIGINAL: Neilster

quote:

The Thatcher government here in Britian in the 1980s saw this problem in the context of the IRA. They realised that publicity was the oxygen of terrorism and tried to stop the broadcast of the sickening sight of Sinn Fein representatives giving their mealy mouthed justification for the latest attrocity commited in the name of their cause.

Well, was their land occupied by a foreign power? What would you have done in the same circumstances?

Cheers, Neilster


I was under the impression that Ireland was an independent free state, and Northern Ireland continues to be, as it always has been - under British soveringty.

Of course, there are those that would like Northern Ireland to become part of Ireland - but this is not the same as a nation being under foreign occupation.

Unless you would like to tell me when the UK 'invaded' Northern Ireland.


Actually The Anglo were sending settler over to Irerland starting in 15 century.

This same jerk

143 cba  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:15:21pm

WriterMom, did you see the stuff I posted at Discarded Lies a couple of days ago, about the email exchange I had with someone to whom I'd sent the Arafat the Monster article, then the Glick article you'd posted there?

I'm still upset.

144 Ann  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:18:07pm

#124 Buckeye Abroad

Don't make the mistake of equating the US with France.


I won't. But like ploome said, it's only the beginning. No one seems to be waking up fast enough.

145 HULUGU  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:21:05pm

they should march them right to the river rouge ford plant in dearborn and then tie them to the assembly lines to produce something besides seething and whining

146 traumakitty  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:23:05pm

We used to live in Ohio and they had some "militia" groups up there that give the "Repulic of Texas" bunch a real run for their money. Wonder if the [bigoted word]s know that???

147 Fuad Al'Razi  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:24:59pm

Wow! This is unbelievable, are these Americans or Islamo-Fascists posing as Americans?

As many of you probably have seen my posts, I completely reject Islam, the Qu'ran, Muhammad the Prophet (a big lie!), the Hadith, my old Islamic Community Center, and all elements consisting of, and being a part of Islam.

I am an ex-Muslim.

I am a Patriotic American, I totally reject this Fascism.

I will be the first to volunteer to get these traitors on a boat back to Middle Ages (Middle East).

Regards,
Fuad Al'Razi

148 'Nam Grunt  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:26:23pm

They should be rounded up and put on ships and sent to Iran, along with the rest of the filthy animals that reside there, please don't put them on airplanes they will try to blow them up and become martyrs. This is the main reason I don't condone anyone spending their hard earned money in any of their businesses, they don't derserve it, filthy pigs!

149 the poetess  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:26:24pm

This is happening here. It is a test.
How far can they go? As far as we let them.
Look at Holland, learn from the Dutch
The land of the FREE has been invaded,
With lies, threats, crime,
Hate and assassination,
What is this facination
With evil, the dark side,
The shadow that now abides?
Hear the hounds of hell
barking at our feet,
We must be quick,
drop all differences,
unite against a common foe
or woe unto us!

Thou shalt not steal,
Thou shalt not lie
Thou shalt not murder
Won’t fade away,
Not today, not if we unite.
Forget labels, religious,
Political, social, all that,
We must unite against a common foe
Or woe unto us! Our suffering will multiply
And our sorrows will know no bounds.

We must start on the ground with our neighborhoods,
Find out who owns the discount cigarette stores,
Who runs the mosques, who’s the local academic
Who appears at all the churches, the media man
From the brotherhood who soothes the naive.
Find the pockets of crime, the grime
And filth who think so little of this precious life,
this life given by That Which Can't Be Named,
Offal who kill their kids and shriek with joy
Then keep an eye on them, the muslim mafia,
The men who want your land, your wealth,
your freedoms and your soul.

Never Forget,
it is jihad
and it will last
until we are all in submission
or the day of judgement comes.
It is war
Never Forget

150 cba  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:27:43pm

No, I'm sorry, I'm sorry! I must have summoned her... but I only mentioned her twice.

Gah! My eyes!

151 rtheyserius  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:29:15pm

Round 'em up. Move 'em out!

WHEEET!-HEYAHHH!!!

Get'em movin', movin', movin',
Though they're disapprovin',
Keep them Muslims movin' Rawhide!

Don't try to understand 'em,
Just rope and throw and grab 'em,
Soon they'll be screaming far and wide.
By my heart's calculatin'
Their transports will be waitin',
be waiting for the end of their ride.

Move 'em on, head 'em up,
Head 'em up, move 'em out,
Move 'em on, head 'em out Rawhide!
Set 'em out, ride 'em in
Ride 'em in, let 'em out,
Cut 'em out, ride 'em in Rawhide.

WHEEET!-HEYAHHH!!!

152 Show Me Sam  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:29:27pm

#63 Haiku  11/13/2004 04:15PM PST : 
"Why are the Muslims allowed to re-write history? The Jews were in Jerusalem thousands of years before the Muslims. In fact the Koran doesn't even mention Jerusalem once. I'm sick and tired of the msm repeating Muslim lies and propaganda. "


I've been sick and tired of revisionism of all kinds since the mid-80s. It seems to be the 'fashion' since the late 20th century. Look at what has happened to Black History:

- "All the kings and queens of Egypt were black...
- Egypt invented _everything_...
- Greece stole _everything_ from Egypt..."

Arguuh!

Back in 1990 I had to totally abandon my Greek History Unit the reaction to Greece was so hostile among my inner-city students who were being fed this nonsense from their inner-city churches. Such insanity anymore. I can't believe how the MSM went along with all of the Black History revisionism, either. Sad thing about all of this revisionism is that it is
based on distortions, not facts.

Re this thread, I have such antipathy to what is going on in Michigan I could spit bullets. Like someone said here recently,
any woman in the U.S. who puts on a berka is insulting the rest of us. I can't stand it! If you want to be a Muslim, then go to a Muslim country, if you ant to come to the U.S., then become an American! I do not want to hear the call of prayers to Allah sounding in my town. The U.S. was established on Judeo-Christian belief, not Islamic. Don't come here and try to do what Muslims are doing around the world, i.e., taking over via the ballot box, and then start trying to implement Shari'a Law. Michigan is really pathetic putting up with this merde (pardon my french).

153 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:30:13pm

150 cba

You so deserve an atomic wedgie for having her show up.

Or is KK decided to "feel pretty" for a bit, broken out his Mom's clothing, and posting as his alter ego.


hmmm.

154 Thomas  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:31:19pm

# 135 hazzyday

Some modification to your list from above, if I may.

Sean Penn = Stoner Jeff Spicoli in Fast Times
Susan Sarandon = Chick in undies in Rocky Horror
Tim Robbins = Disturbed mail man in Jacobs Ladder

My point is, dont take them as seriously as they take themselves, where politics are concerned.

I have an internal mute that activates whenever Tim Robbins starts spouting off.

I just dont want to hear it , because damn, that man can act.

155 cba  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:33:37pm

#153 Kragar:

You so deserve an atomic wedgie for having her show up.

I know!! I tried giving myself an atomic wedgie to atone, but I couldn't manage it. I asked my husband if he would--he promised to later. At least, I think that's what he said...

Or is KK decided to "feel pretty" for a bit, broken out his Mom's clothing, and posting as his alter ego.

You may be onto something there, buddy.

Heh, betcha not bored now!

156 Sergio  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:34:06pm

How did these people get here? Special State Department visas? Are they all "students"? Or did they just come across the border from Canada and are now awaiting their Bush-sanctioned amnesty?

157 Yishai  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:34:20pm

#33 JohnAnnArbor

I live twenty minutes from there.

So do I (Oak Park). May God help all of us Americans.
For Local coverage of the anti-everything-but-their-goats spittle fest:

[Link: www.clickondetroit.com...]

And you can watch a video of them [no goats though :(]from a helicopter.

158 zulubaby  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:35:30pm
US HANDS OFF MUSLIM LAND

But it's fine that they're here? The usual hypocrisy.

159 kauaiterry  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:37:34pm

The importance that Muslims place on any site in Israel is directly proportional to the importance that Jews and Christians place upon them. If Muslims had to rely soley upon the Qur'an for information about these places, they wouldn't have a clue because the fact is these places (and people) are not mentioned in their so called "sacred book." The Islamic modus operandi is to control or desecrate what ever Jews and Christians hold sacred. And in doing so they attempt to re-write history.

Solomon's Temple was built on the "Temple Mount" over a thousand years before Muhammad ever raided his first caravan. The Muslim mosque that now sits on that site (which Muhammad is said to have visited) wasn't built until 50 years after Muhammad's death! But that is only the beginning of sorrows:
In recent years Joseph's sepulchre was sacked by Muslims, Rachael's sepuchre was fire bombed, a urinial from an ajoining mosque was placed on top of the Church of the Sepulchre, the Church of the Nativity was (twice) trashed and used as a holdout for fleeing Palestinian terrorists, the Cathedral of St. John was coverted into a mosque and another Christian Cathedral was coverted into the Great Mosque of Istanbul. There are thousands of other examples of small churches and synogauges throughtout the Mid-East and Africa that have been either destroyed or replaced by mosques.

Only a mind controlled by something darker than malevolence would lay claim to the Jewish Temple Mount.
Read Zechariah 12:9-10 for a some insight into the matter.

160 piglet  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:38:59pm

[Link: www.sacredsites.com...]

It's the wall at the bottom of this link that really pisses themm off. How seaky of the jews to build a wall around and under the dome of the rock. :-) :-(

Notice that the news organisation has no clue, and did not fact checking to find out that the al-asqua mosque and the dome of the rock are different.

161 fiery celt  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:40:07pm
I live twenty minutes from there...Joy.

I live twenty minutes from here---
OoooH joy! I feel your pain!

---
zulubaby

Dearborn is the first US state to become Islamic. Which state will be next?

Illinois---see above
---

Albertadude and Ploome

Truer words have not been spoken...this is going to get a whole lot uglier before it gets better...

Were talking many many more 9-11's and then some and civil wars across Western Civilization not too mention in places like the Sub Continent and elsewhere!

We have ignored or become complacent to the threat of the 1400 year beast known as Islam...and as you say, this is just beginning!

In this ongoing 1400 year battle---

It's the beginning of the end...

162 HULUGU  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:41:06pm

#126--writer mommy--who needs irises--skin grease samples--probiscus length to labial technology--teeth yellowing contrast charts--halal tosis odor meters--there are many physical islamoidentifiers out there

163 American Infidel[deleted]  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:42:00pm
164 rtheyserius  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:43:39pm

#157, Yishai

Thanks for that video. It really puts things in perspective.

Jeez, there must have been all of 100 of them.

The media should be *ignoring* such tiny protests.

That 100 Muslim idiots could get national attention by carrying a few signs and marching down a street is preposterous.

Had they been Republicans, they would have been SWARMED, intimidated and had their lives threatened by fanatical Palestinian crazies -- which would not have made the news.

165 American Infidel[deleted]  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:44:17pm
166 zulubaby  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:47:58pm

Yishai, is that a police car next to the swarm or am I imagining it?

167 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:50:10pm
168 MichaelMooreSucks  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:51:11pm

Fuck these people. If they hate this country so much, then why are they here? They should get the fuck out.

And what's with that "known by Jews" crap? When they say "known by Jews", they imply that it's not a fact. Of course, they don't say that with regards to the Muslims because, apparently, their claim is legit and is beyond question, but the Jews' claim is not.

169 N.A. PALM  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:53:28pm

I believe it was somewhere in Michigan the the muslims recently received permission from the local mayor to ring their bells and loudspeakers 5 times a day in their ritual call to mosque...I think it was Dearborn.

Anyway, give muslims an inch, and they take over the planet. And, since beheading seems to be their favorite way of teaching us heathen infidels a lesson, that too will be coming soon, to a theatre near you.

170 cba  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:54:00pm

#168:
It's similar to the formula used by the CBC--"Islam's third holiest site, according to Jewish tradition it is also the site of a Biblical temple."

171 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:54:47pm
172 cba  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:54:53pm

#169:
It was Hamtramack.

So far they haven't made them change the name.

173 yellowroseoftexas  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:55:27pm

Khomeni was perhaps one of the most anti American and anti western political figures of the 20th century. He ordered the Iranian students to overtake the US embassy in Teheran.He was also the first one to coin the phrase "America is the great satan".Yet no one acted or acts more *satanic* than Islamists like Khomeni.

174 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:56:13pm
175 Ann  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:58:04pm

#157 Yishai
From your link:

Dozens of people marched Friday to protest Israeli and U.S. policies toward Palestinians.


Thank you for answering my question earlier! The story did not say hundreds or thousands.

Just dozens. Two, three dozen? Ten dozen goes into the hundred realm, so I am guessing no more than 40 or 50 people were there.
Why is this a story for the MSM?

176 PDM  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 3:59:17pm
177 yellowroseoftexas  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 4:01:34pm

168# I totally agree with you.I think we should just stop letting people from the Muslim countries into this country.And we should investigate the ones already here to see if there not connected in someway to terrorist activities.These people have no loyalty to this country whatsoever and are only over here for the economic and political benefits.For the most part they hate us and everything we stand for.I know alot of people would accuse me of being racist and cruel.But I would much rather have them accuse me falsely then have thousands or even God forbid millions of innocent Americans being murdered in another mass terror attack.

178 fiery celt  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 4:02:29pm

kauaiterry,

Only a mind controlled by something darker than malevolence would lay claim to the Jewish Temple Mount

I know...

[Link: www.blueletterbible.org...]
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[Link: www.blueletterbible.org...]

179 WriterMom  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 4:02:42pm

#162 hulugu

Hahahaha. You're so right. Ya just need a Shmutzometer...

#170 cba

My tuches is the forty-first holiest site to Islam, but they just don't mention it on CBC.

180 WriterMom  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 4:04:05pm

And, WTF kind of poetry is that?

Maybe she should stick to Haiku.

181 michaelg  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 4:05:31pm

So these folks are a slice of America...

182 Ann  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 4:11:16pm

#167 ploome hineni
I haven't. Anywhere that islam meets non-islam, there is violence, death and destruction. Even in a college student union here.

183 cba  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 4:11:53pm

#180 WriterMom:
Please don't encourage her. I mentioned her in the context of krazykounselor's horrible poetry (which he has posted on the web) and apparently she thought we were all anxious to see more of her crap. It's like she's turned into SWSNBN.

So I'm not going to name her again. If I do it a third time, who the hell knows what might happen?

184 Buckeye Abroad  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 4:13:17pm

#163 AI

Well, it is only a matter of time before Moslems claim it as MOSLEM LANDS, just as they have done in the burbs of Paris...

I repeat myself, do NOT confuse America with France. The muslims have bought the city council and lined the pockets of a few city officials...bully for them. When the afflictions of Paris (gang rapes, assault against non-muslims, arson, etc..) become common, look for bodies in the street, burning mosques and a the sound of feet hitting concrete (heading to Canada).

There isn't enough police or national guardsmen to protect them and those in power know that. It's submit, run or be relocated to an internment camp for your own protection. Choice is theirs.

185 WriterMom  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 4:15:21pm

#183 cba

I hear you!

186 Jimmy's Attack Rabbit  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 4:15:51pm

Looks like John Belushi to me

187 hornet  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 4:16:19pm

LLL watchout! This is you, but you don't even know it.

188 Cornish Intifada  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 4:17:06pm

You Americans should check the results of the green card lottery...they are heavily swung towards the middle east...Look at the number from Egypt or Algeria and then compare with europe or south america...haha Jihad is coming to a city near you! testing the water...testing the water...

Would these allahbots have marched like this in 1981???

2000 Turks, 3000 Albanians, 1000 Sudanese, 1500 Algerians...how about 6000 Egyptians! 5000 Morroccans...7000 muslim Bangaldeshis!!!

How many visas are issued...only 50,000!!! You are digging your own graves!!

The whole of south america would be lucky to hit 4000...

CRAZY!!! FREE TERENCE HANLON

189 Le Trôle  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 4:17:24pm

#54 Kragar (proud to be kafir) 11/13/2004 04:06PM
"Yeah, yeah, but we got a rag Mohammad wiped his ass with enshrined there"

Not likely.

I'm curious to see the sales figures for toilet paper in Dearborn versus other American cities of the same size.

190 armytramp  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 4:23:26pm

I hope you all like MY poetry.

Another Haiku:

Islam, believe it,
You are better off dead so,
Get those virgins now!

191 wilmington747  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 4:24:40pm

^ | 11-13-2004 | Reuters News
Dutch Muslims Dismayed by Anti-Islamic Backlash THE HAGUE (Reuters) - Selami Aydin's words will comfort many Dutch people if opinion polls are to be believed. "I'm thinking of going back to Turkey. Seriously," the 39-year-old Muslim said just a few hundred meters (yards) from the apartment police stormed last Wednesday after a 14-hour siege with suspected Islamic militants. "We're all frightened"
Frightened?

I bet we could frighten them too! We better!

192 Hulegu Khan  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 4:25:34pm

This is what these dirtbags would like to do to you and your family here in America. This is the fruit of Islam. This is why they have come to America and this is why they must be expunged.

193 armytramp  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 4:26:47pm

Relocation

Scared in my burkha
Can they guess I fund Hamas?
Toronto looks good...

194 American Infidel[deleted]  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 4:28:12pm
195 Buckeye Abroad  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 4:36:39pm

#194 AI

Personally, I would prefer permanent deportation...Right to Mecca...

Acceptable as well. I have been to KSA and it always needs more slaves.

196 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 4:36:44pm
197 lmg  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 4:36:45pm

If the Temple Mount is "Muslim land" because they conquered it last, then Gaza and the West Bank are Israeli property. Palis OUT!

If the West Bank and Gaza are "Muslim land" because they had it before Israel, then the Temple Mount is Israeli property. Palis OUT!

Which is it?

198 zulubaby  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 4:36:50pm

3,000 Demonstrate in France Against Israel and America

3,000 persons demonstrated against Israel and the United States in France on Saturday, calling US President George W. Bush a “murderer”. The participants also called for the removal of Israel’s counter terrorism security barrier which was ruled to be illegal by the International Court of Justice in The Hague.

Similar protests were also held in PA-controlled Ramallah.

Neo-Nazis March and Honor SS Soldiers

A reported 1,000 neo-Nazis marched in the village of Halbe Germany to honor the memory of SS soldiers, laying wreaths in the area cemetery.

Nazis marching everywhere, some European, some Islamic, but all marching because they hate Jews. It's already out of control and it's only going to get worse.

199 American Infidel[deleted]  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 4:38:34pm
200 zulubaby  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 4:40:01pm

I just noticed in the background of the second photo there's a sign that reads:

ISRAEL IS GENOCIDE UNDER DIRECT US GUIDE

Lovely stuff.

201 Chaparral  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 4:40:50pm

Sorry if this has been pointed out, but I'm in a hurry and can't read the entire thread right now. That replica is "The Dome of the Rock", an atrocity like the Moslem cemetery outside of one of Jerusalem's gates built specifically in an attempt to thwart Judeo-Christian prophesy, and is not the al-Aqsa Mosque, which is a far less ornate structure located on one of the edges of the Temple Mount, but that is also an Islamic attempt to save their bacon (Ha!) in the face of scriptures that are prophesies of their defeat. Not sure how it's going to work out, but that structure and the Mosque will both eventually be torn down and a third Jewish Temple will be built in it's place, likely after Islam's total and complete defeat and repudiation by the west. We live in the proverbial "interesting times" of the old Chinese curse, I'm afraid. Personally, I'd just rather play my guitar and compose my music without having to be concerned about all this crap. Speaking of which, I gotta go.

202 elandadem  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 4:47:41pm

Has anyone taken note of the fact the double L's in "The wall must fall..." bears a striking resemblence to the twin towers? Coincidence?

203 Albertadude  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 5:01:22pm

To # 147 Fuad...

Right on Fuad...you are a reminder that this isn't a war against any ethnic group whether Arabic or Pakistani or Persian but a war against an ideology which sadly many Middle Eastern and other tribes have been ensnared in...I know and have many fine friends that are ex muslims from Indian, Arabic and Pakistani backgrounds and they are wonderful folk that know the first hand danger of Islam!!

We must always remember that Muslims are the first victims of Islam...and do all we can too help them out of that brutal ideology!!

I have the greatest respect and awe for ex muslims...totally brave people that are on the front lines of this battle.

Devon in Calgary

204 Sawadee63  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 5:04:29pm

What do you call a fucking idiot wrapped in a bedsheet and riding a pig? Lawrence of Dearborn.

205 Nannette  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 5:09:06pm

This will be the result of the Islamic conquest of Europe and America... they go for the jugular when they're given a mouthpiece and have a small, but loud percentage of the population supporting them!

First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.

206 Asylum Aleikum  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 5:16:09pm

[bigoted word]s hands off U.S. lands!

207 Jakester  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 5:21:40pm

More garbage from Al Reuters!

208 Dar ul Harb  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 5:24:03pm

I have a suggestion.

LGF is big enough now, it could use a mission statement.

209 Buckeye Abroad  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 5:28:34pm

#208 Dar ul Harb

I second that.

210 Dar ul Harb  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 5:35:34pm

Thanks.

I welcome any redrafts of the language.

211 Dar ul Harb  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 5:45:19pm

I think I might revise the fourth paragraph to (additions in italics):

"Consequently, after the attacks of September 11th 2001, we also believe that the free nations of the world cannot wait for the Islamic world to reform itself."

212 Dar ul Harb  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 5:48:31pm

We would also need such a mission statement, once agreed upon, to be translated (especially into Arabic).

213 cba  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 5:51:37pm

Um, Dar ul Harb... I think you might be getting ahead of yourself. This is Charles's blog, and although we are very comfortable in his living room, we are still his guests. If Charles is interested in your suggestion, I believe it would be up to him to determine the final wording (if any).

214 Dar ul Harb  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 5:56:12pm

#213, cba

Well, that's why I offered it as "We the undersigned..."

Certainly Charles would have to approve such a statement before it would be official. The FAQ started out similarly as I recall.

(Far be it from me to offend the Masssterrr...)

215 Jayce  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 6:05:34pm

Sorry, I couldn't wait to read all you comments before posting. But as JoeShmo and others have pointed out, this is not Al-Aqsa mosque. These islamofacists are all SHOW. Even they don't care about the mosque since they don't even know what it looks like.

This is the dome of the rock. It is a structure built over the rock where Abraham almost sacrificed his beloved son Isaac. (Islamic revisionists claim: Ishmael.) This is where the Holy of Holies (containing the Arc of the Covenant) section of The Temple stood. This is the holiest sight of the Jewish People.

Since Mohammed never deliniated where the" far off place" (=the 3rd holiest in Islam) he flew to on his winged horse to was, there are quite a few Al-Aqsa's in the Arab world, all claiming to be third. Since Mohammed never came to Jerusalem, in fact vilified it, this cannot even be the 3rd holiest site in Islam.

The is little or no honor among Islamofacists. Even 'Fats' recently deceased sister's grave in Gaza is in a cemetary overrun with weeds, next to the smelly garbage dump of their market place.

Their whole culture is based on LIES, LIES, LIES.

They don't care. They just want the world to help them kill Jews.

216 Miggie  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 6:14:36pm

122 He's dead, Jim

That revolt that is supposed to be coming in both Saudi Arabia and in Iran has been coming for years now.

Personally, I think it is wishful thinking. There is nothing concrete you can point to that shows a real revolt is at hand or anything close to it. It is all talk and, as I say, wishful thinking.

217 Clio  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 6:23:43pm

Al-Reuters should at least know the difference between the Dome of the Rock and the Al-Aksa Mosque.

The Dome of the Rock is built over the site of the Jewish Temple.

The Al-Aksa Mosque is the Christian Church of St. Mary of Justininian with a dome stuck on top.

Thus the two structures usurp and violate the holy places of both Judaism and Christianity.

218 mich-again  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 6:40:52pm

Dar ul Harb. I'd sign on. So would about 85% of America.

I believe the man in the poster is no martyr, but Rabih Haddad who was Ascrofted (deported). If you google him, you'll find all sorts of wailing about his case, not just from Muslims but all the usual leftists and ACLUsers.

Overall the American Muslims are severely watered down. They can't do FGM to young girls and keep them out of school. The kids play American football and listen to rap. They send sons and daughters into the US military. I'm betting quite a few have had a slice of pepperoni pizza (horrors!)

They aren't overrunning the Detroit area. In fact, they are more concerned that their kids will want no part of that false religion once they get educated and hang out with other American kids. Muslims rely solely on ignorance to spread their hate. Trust in the power of knowledge.

219 ieatcrayonsandpooprainbows  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 6:41:14pm

I'm confused!!! Where are the homemade posters of Bob Dobbs and Elvis???

220 Miggie  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 6:50:47pm

Guys! We have to keep these pictures to show the next Muslim/Arab "moderate" who shows up here trying to minimize what they are doing here.

We can shut up all those apologist pricks who show up here from time to time, writing about how innocent they are and how unfair we are to the Sons of Allah who live among us.

We'll have to ask that moderate where he was on the day of this march and what he did to protest it.

We have got to get some police and government agents who aggressively prosecute these aliens among us. We can't let any more of them in. We have to summarily deport any who break any laws... up to and including littering and spitting on the sidewalk. Living here is a privilege and if they abuse that privilege.. they should be gone.

No other religion seeks to impose their religion and their laws on us. That is what makes them fundamentally different than any other group. That is not to mention all the atrocities they condone.

221 Miggie  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 7:06:33pm

2180 mich-again

Bullshit! Your theory is stupid.

Who needs any of them? It doesn't comfort me that they are "severly waterdowned" as you opine.

It happens that they have a very successful recruiting program in our prison system as well as among the other misfits and fringe elements here.

CAIR has a full time staff working day and night trying to put the right kind of spin on all the criminal Muslin traitors and terrorists that live among us.

You are exactly the kind of apologist that says lets not worry about them. In fact, the majority of them refuse to assimilate and become ordinary Americans like all the other groups who have immigrated here. It happens to be a central part of their religion... including the death penalty for any Muslim who converts to anything else. They refuse to assimilate in France, England, and everywhere else in Europe. Take a look at what is going on there now.

222 mich-again  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 7:18:32pm

You know the funny thing is that the kid in the Orlando Magic Tracy McGrady jersey (#1) in the background.

A Moolie in an NBA jersey! What a hoot. I don't remember the Ayatollah wearing an NBA jersey. And hoodies and tooks are no substitutes for turbans. The Profit (sic) would not approve and would probably cut off your heads as punishment.

223 Rose  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 7:29:43pm

The Pali Parents should start finding lawyers to sue Arafats estate for some of share of his ill gained millions, for those children sodomised by Arafat and co' and who may be HIV positive now.
I am sure there are Pali Lawyers who would love to join the litigation legal club and score a percentage of his millions as well.
The Parents could also have their cases heard by the Human Rights commission- they must be informed they can get far more this way than encouraging their kids to self Immolate and detonate themselves as human bombs- We should thell them that the virgins if their ever were any are all pox ridden old hags now and they have been conned again by the 'prophet' and his kind.

224 Rose  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 7:37:42pm

It is time these people were shipped out NOW- freedom of speech should not apply to aliens who are loyal to Islam and Palestine in a time of WAR brought on by their filthy evil cult- America does not need them noe any democratic country-If they want to stay let them renounce Islam and any who would seek to do them harm deported

225 deadmaus  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 7:41:17pm

Those fuckers make me so angry I could spit. And I am not even American. I feel sorry for you guys.

226 Miggie  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 7:55:57pm
A Moolie in an NBA jersey! What a hoot. I don't remember the Ayatollah wearing an NBA jersey. And hoodies and tooks are no substitutes for turbans. The Profit (sic) would not approve and would probably cut off your heads as punishment.

So this is what you base your opinion on? This is what comforts you and makes you think that they are "severely waterdowned" and losing the cultural war?

Every one of your posts is more ridiculous than the one before.

They must feed you with a tray under the door. Don't you know what is going on in the world?

227 ArcherB  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 8:05:05pm

After looking at that first sign, I can't help but want to respond:


How about getting your Muslim Ass off US Land?!??!

228 ArcherB  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 8:14:23pm

Or better yet...

How about getting your Arab Ass off of Indian Land!!!

229 nagasaki_hata  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 8:28:23pm

Check out the other photos, the Dead Fish is among the signs shown. Also, Vote or Die, and registering for voting. They have promised to kill us through our own laws, yes?

This Mohammedan uprising is escalating all over the USA is various ways. This is Europe now, friends. It's WAR or Dhimmitude time, no choice. Guess most Americans would rather watch sports and go to the mall instead of addressing this real danger. What a world...

Why am I starting to feel as though our PC government is complicit in this mass immigration of Mooslums and denial of reality in what they are doing in and to this country?

I voted twice for president Bush, but I'd sure like to see him stop the PC stance and get real.

230 old sarge ski  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 8:50:56pm

1) What day does [bigoted word] seasoon open in Michigan? 2)What's the bag limit? 3) Can you have them tagged the same pace as deer?

231 old sarge ski  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 8:54:33pm

#230 ADDENDA

4) Are [bigoted word] lawyers considered the same as [bigoted word]s? -- bag limit etc, etc.

232 LC LaWedgie  Sat, Nov 13, 2004 11:36:17pm

#14 cattt -
The U.S. is the fifth most holy shrine of Islam - France is the fourth.
/sarcoff

233 RickZ  Sun, Nov 14, 2004 2:08:13am

# 9 Ten18:

And we need these people in our country for . . .?

. . . malicious, evil tests carried out by our military industrial complex.

/I wish

# 41 Mookie Wislon:

Now I know how my father must have felt when he witnessed rallies of the German-American Bund in the 30's.

A connection I had not made. Thanks.

# 102 Ann:

They are missionaries. They can't go home until we are all converted. By force and intimidation, preferably. It's easier than putting a bunch of korans in hotels.

I smell a lawsuit against our hotel and motel association.

234 RedWhiteAndJew  Sun, Nov 14, 2004 2:51:01am

I grew up near there. Recently went up for a visit. Drove around early Sunday morning to see how the neighborhood changed. There are store fronts everywhere with arabic in the windows.

I now live in the Dayton, Ohio area. There is a muslim school/day care center near my house. Montgomery county, one of the Ohio counties to go for sKerry, sadly due in part to a large black population, is home to a nation of islam house. (I say sadly not that the population is black, but that blacks tend to self-destructively vote for politicians who will keep them in economic chains). In my neighborhood, when I see a female in a body length covering, she's almost always black, not arab.

I think the reason the US has been spared pervasive small scale attacks throughout the country, is we are an armed people. I hope the day doesn't come, but I'm afraid an allah sychophant will do something in a mall or a school that will spark reprisal that will leave many arab (or just arab-looking) men, women, and children dead.

Just the same, buy a gun and ammo, know how to use it and clean it, and keep it at the ready. I don't intend to look for trouble, but I intend to be trouble for anyone looking for it.

Also, in the case of Michigan and Ohio, get a concealed handgun license. Getting one issued in one state means you're good to go in the other (and many others, besides).

235 rara  Sun, Nov 14, 2004 4:46:02am

Why the f*#@ are they here? SEND THEM HOME!! You guys should see how dirty Dearborn is right now-they dirty everything they touch!!! MOST of the people that live in Dearborn are from Lebanon and control most of the Detroit area. For me, it’s not one of the perks for going to school in Downtown Detroit.

236 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Sun, Nov 14, 2004 5:08:43am

My suspicion is these charming people are Lebanese Hezbollah supporters. This has all the marks of their classic non-spontaneous demos.

The enemy, to be sure, but there is no evidence they can sustain their Islamofasicst culture for genertations in the US. Women drive in America, women don't have to wear burkhas and mos timportantly, when the women and kids are in stores and civic areas, even the US schools, they are exposed to our culture not their culture. These people could only be moved out of Michigan at gun point, believe their desire to stay is not because they like the weather.

Worry when they can organize fifty thousadn such people at a demo; I doubt they ever will. They just committed political hari-kiri with their support for Bush guaranteeing four years on Karl Rove's personal shit list (the election was not a landslide).

Four years from now the Dems will nominate Hilary and they will make the same mistake.

237 daughter of patriots  Sun, Nov 14, 2004 5:11:45am

Last night, former Chicago Tribune legal journalist Lee Strobel interviewed Californian amir Abdel Malik Ali, defending Islam as "religion of peace", opining that his belief system groups (infidels) unbelievers into 3 (dhimmified) sub-directories, only one of which deserves hostility: those that "oppress Muslims". Robert Spencer from Jihadwatch responded "oppression is in the eye of the beholder". On the Pax channel, new show:

Faith under fire

238 zygazint  Sun, Nov 14, 2004 5:37:54am

OK, this is it. Israel needs a really good PR campaign to bolster its image and Sharon needs to get with the program. The paleo's are only successful raising capital and earning world $ympathy for their plight because they don't stop their campaign of victimization! If the good people of the world would spend one moment researching the Hamas/PLO Charters they would not be so quick to help further this 'resistance' (gag). I think pro-Israel supporters need to get out there with signs that educate the public as to the true intent of the arab world. They are ALL considered 'palestinians' - and no matter WHO leads their 'cause' (spit) they are still being truly led by insane mullah/clerics who won't stop calling for the death to Israel/Jews. This is a war of words in addition to bombs. And these kind of stories are a slap in the face to humanitarians the world over, as well as, a clear sign of the failure of pro-Israeli's to promote the truth of the situation to those easily led to believe the paleo party drivel. imho.

239 royaloakdad13  Sun, Nov 14, 2004 6:06:58am

Dearborn used to be a beautiful city. I grew up in Detroit less than 1/2 mile from the Dearborn border. In the 40's & 50's Dearborn city government had a "no blacks allowed" policy. If anyone wants to verify, the black population of Dearborn was less than 1/10 of 1% before 1975. However, while blacks were excluded, Arabs, mainly Syrians, were allowed to completely take over the Salina neighborhood of east Dearborn. Blacks were allowed to work in the massive Ford Rouge Plant (at that time the largest factory in the world, encompassing more than a full square mile) and the thousands of blacks who labored at Ford Rouge were allowed to live in nearby Detroit and River Rouge, but not in Dearborn, the birthplace of Henry Ford. Meanwhile the Arab population of Dearborn flourished. Arabs took over the multi-million dollar liquor store business not only in Dearborn, but in the entire metro Detroit area--funded by Middle-Eastern oil money. Much of the massive profits from the liquor stores was funneled back to the Middle East in turn repaying the investments of wealthy Middle Eastern Arabs and creating a massive amount of money to fund Middle Eastern terrorist groups dedicated to the destruction of Israel. Now mosques are a common sight in Dearborn; however to the best of my knowledge there is not even one Synagogue in the city of Dearborn. There are numerous valuable lessons to be learned from the Dearborn situation. The Immigration Dept. was a mindless federal bureaucracy with no vision. Obviously, no one has a crystal ball, but the lessons of history were ignored, and now we have a powder keg living in our midst. Dearborn and metro Detroit is now the second largest concentration of Arabs and Muslims in the WORLD!!! Are you listening Dept. of Homeland Security???

240 Gruen  Sun, Nov 14, 2004 6:07:52am

Kick these fuckers OUT of our country and back to under the rock where they crawled from.

241 BPP  Sun, Nov 14, 2004 6:17:54am

Forgive me if someone covered this earlier, but what is the basis for calling the notion that Jersusalem is the 3rd holiest site in Islam "a propaganda fairy tale". I'm not saying Charles is wrong, but this is something we have heard constantly and I thought it was based on the idea that the Dome of the Rock is where Mohammed ascended to heaven.

242 JWM  Sun, Nov 14, 2004 6:36:51am

Muhammed (piss be upon him) in heaven? There's a fairy tale for you
JWM

243 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Nov 14, 2004 6:46:00am
244 stefania  Sun, Nov 14, 2004 7:34:13am

Charles,

why did not the police break that "demo" ?

Also, some Iranian friends of mine were sooo disgusted and very angry after seeing some of those "demonstrators" carrying Khomeini's pictures.

After all, the above "demonstrators" are also those who are paid by the Mullah's in order to brutally break the pro-democracy demonstrations of the Iranian people ..

245 Miggie  Sun, Nov 14, 2004 8:34:17am

236 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Another stupid "we don't have to worry about them" opinion!

Once they have the ability to have 50,000 person March it is too late!

The idea is to get rid of them BEFORE the threat is imminent.

They want to modernize themselves? They can demonstrate that in Europe were the notion that they could be assimilated is observable nonsense.

Soft headed comments like yours are as much a danger as they are.

246 lah-dee-dah-dah  Sun, Nov 14, 2004 8:47:04am

#244 Stefania, Don't you get it? Who do you think ARE THE POLICE IN DEARBORN? Dearborn, Michigan is a city of approximately 400,000 bordering Detroit on the Southwest. The population of Dearborn is a Muslim majority. Do you think Mayor Guido imports Jews, Christians, Hindis, & Buddhists to police the streets of Dearborn and it's predominantly Muslim population? When the pro-palestinians have a demonstration do you expect their police officer muslim brothers to break up the demonstration when they agree with the demonstrators and it's purpose? See #239 royaloakdad13 for a clue to this formidable jihadist army armed to the teeth WITHIN THE BORDERS OF THE USA.

247 Clutch  Sun, Nov 14, 2004 8:58:47am

"Islamic feet
Off US streets!"

248 royaloakdad13  Sun, Nov 14, 2004 10:20:23am

#246 lahdeedahdah. Thanx for the props. Which do you prefer? "[bigoted word]s" or "Izzys". I like "muzzy izzy" the best. FORK YOU to all those concerned with offending the bin-ladinists and their sympathizers who have killed thousands of innocent Americans and Jews worldwide. Try to disprove this truth: if one is a muslim, that person is either an overt or covert supporter and/or sympathizer of radical islamic beliefs and policies (with very,very few exceptions). They'll kill you too while you're mulling over the indelicacies of WAR, while you are being overly concerned about choosing inoffensive terminology to refer to these murdering rabid hate-crazed bastards. I don't hate--I just try get even; albeit with the ideas stated herein. Knowledge is power. One of the most potent assets on the side of America is that the muslims' HATRED of the USA and Israel and ALL Jews will ultimately self-devour the muslims when reflected in the mirror of history. Don't underestimate the muzzy izzys--they're slick. They have much of the world convinced that mohammed Atta and Yasshole Araflab are one man's freedom fighters while simultaneously being another man's terrorists. They're both dead "martyrs" (didn't you know the Israelis poisoned Araflab and infected him with HIV-carrier male concubines?=instant "martyr") Just like the Nazis, the bigger the lie repeated over & over, is the easiest lie to sell to the public. Getting back to slick; the Dearborn muslims probably won't have to resort to terrorism or violence to continue devouring bigger and bigger chunks of Dearborn and metro Detroit. All they have to do is keep breathing and breeding and one day Dearborn will be ranamed "Dearbornabad" by unanimous acclaim of it's muslim inhabitants. We're waging the War on Terror with our military overseas. Won't that be a day to remember when we can bring our troops back home and wipe out the latent patient lurking terrorists who dwell among us in Dearborn, like the alien menace portrayed in "Men In Black?" "Men In Black" is fiction--the dangerous situation in Dearborn is reality which one day must be confronted with the full might of the U.S. Military. We saved France in WWII--let's not become another France; or should I refer to the Frog Wuss Province as Northern Morocco? In closing, if you're offended by the epithets: muzzy & izzy, go join the Kerry camp and debate the virtues of fighting a more-sensitive War on Terror.

249 gumbydammit  Sun, Nov 14, 2004 10:20:25am

I wonder how long before Dearborn becomes the 17 and 1/2th holiest city in Islam? Or have they gotten past 18 already?

After all, isn't the whole earth Allah's land?

Does San Francisco have to take a nuke before the moonbats wake up? God help us.

250 Miggie  Sun, Nov 14, 2004 11:04:07am

What CAN be done about the situation in Dearborn now? I thought it was bad but, from what I've read here, it is a truly terrible situation.

What is the Governor there like? Are there any others in Michigan itself alarmed about the situation? What about the Michigan National Guard... do they have Muslim terrorist sympathisers within it?

I can't help but believe that the Homeland Security, CIA, and FBI folks are not on top of this.

See what happens when you let the Devil into the Church? He mounts the altar!!!

251 DP111  Sun, Nov 14, 2004 11:14:17am

The post below

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

is probabaly more appropriate in this thread.

252 Miggie  Sun, Nov 14, 2004 11:16:11am

Figured it out by myself! We could go into Dearborn like we went into Fallujah... I wouldn't mind if they are what you say they are.

Clean out the innocents first and for all those remaining... let them learn who they are dealing with.

253 piglet  Sun, Nov 14, 2004 11:23:47am

Gee, maybe the caption was completely wrong, maybe they are just doing a fundrasier to get gold leaf to finsih this dearborn mosque.:

[Link: www.detnews.com...]

But the mosques are the heart of the community, as they serve as a place for prayer and community gatherings. There are about 30 mosques in Metro Detroit and more than half are in Dearborn. Many of the mosques are small and located in reconfigured buildings, like former schools. When these facilities become too small, often residents will go to another mosque or skip prayers and holy days altogether.

The current Islamic Center of America mosque is located on Joy and Greenfield in Detroit. Imam Mohammad Jawad Chirri was able to rally the community and his contacts throughout the Middle East to launch what was then known as the Islamic Center of Detroit in 1963. Decades later, the building is at capacity.

"It's like you start out in a two-bedroom house and then you have four kids. It's time to move," said Adnan Chirri, chairman of the Board of Trustees and Chirri's son. "People are eager (for it to open). The community grew so large over the past years and our present facility was too small."

Once it's open, the mosque will be located in an area that already has an Armenian and Arab Christian church. And that's what makes this country unique, said Dearborn activist Zana Macki.

"Where else can you have so many different faiths .. with their own places of worship, but in the United States?" Macki said. "That's the way it should be. There's just a very special tranquillity on that little strip."

254 DP111  Sun, Nov 14, 2004 11:25:51am

85 Albertadude

It is encouraging that the Dutch as a people are fighting back, despite the very best efforts of their dhimmi government and press to label loyal Dutch persons as racists.

The Dutch are not racists. I cannot think of any group in the world that has been as welcoming to immigrants as the Dutch have been. It is the inadequate protection afforded to Dutch citizens, leaving them at the mercy of muslim fanatics, that has brought the situation to a head in Holland. The murder of Van Gogh is now rippling through the social fabric of Europe.

Allowing muslims into the West reminds me of the Trojan horse and the subsequent fall of Troy.

255 DP111  Sun, Nov 14, 2004 11:57:27am

Yet another Walker, this time

"Mark Robert Walker, 19, was arrested Nov. 6 in El Paso, Texas, and on Friday was charged with attempting or conspiring to contribute goods or services to a global terrorist organization."

[Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]

256 lah-dee-dah-dah  Sun, Nov 14, 2004 12:58:18pm

#250 miggie. The Governess of Michigan, (the "Arsenal Of Democracy" in WWII), is Jennifer Granholm, a Canadian-born LLL demoncrat. She has NO CLUE concerning what homeland security is all about. In her gubenitorial campaign debate in 2002 against Republican candidate Dick Posthumus (John Engler's Lt. Gov. for 12 years) she stumbled, gulped, and guffawed her way through an answer the gist of which, was that she would use and upgrade the existing homeland security systems in place by implementing deployment of the National Guard and Michigan State Police. In Posthumus' rebuttal he named precisely a number of the National Guard Units and Michigan State Police Posts which had already been deployed to preserve the Homeland Security of Michigan in the event of a terrorist emergency. His answer made her sound like a total novice, and she turned as red in the face as a high school girl caught naked in the backseat of her boyfriend's car in a compromising position. Yet still the mindless sheep of democrats in Detroit and Dearborn voted for Granholm in sufficient numbers to put her in the Governor's Mansion. She's a pretty face and a democrat and that was enough to put her over the top. The statewide county-by-county electoral map of Michigan looked as "red" as the map of the US after President Bush's victory over Kerry. To the best of my recollection Granholm won one county, Wayne County, comprised mainly of Detroit and Dearborn, but her percent of the vote there was over 90% in the county which is home to approx 50% of the state's population. If anyone out there wants to experience the eerie feeling of the middle east "Arab Street" simply reserve a room at the Dearborn Ritz Carlton Hotel, take a flight on Northwest Airlines into Detroit Metro Airport, rent a car and drive the short 7 mile trip to the hotel. When you arrive at the Ritz Carlton and check into your sumptous room (it truly is a luxurious hotel) don't fall into a panic if you see a Sheikh's entourage in traditional white robes yukking it up in Arabic in the main lobby or on your way up to your room. Have dinner the first evening in one of the hotel's marvelous restaurants and notice those dining at the tables near you; enough said. Start out around lunch time the next day and drive north on the Southfield Freeway and exit at Warren Ave. and turn East on Warren. Drive about one mile past Greenfield Rd. and you are in East Dearborn. Nearly every restaurant, every market will have it's sign written in Arabic. Have a nice lunch at Cedarland Restaurant on Warren Ave. about 3 blocks east of Shafer Rd. passing the Moslem American Institute on your left just before you arrive at Cedarland. The boneless chicken, shish Tawook, lamb schwarma, felafel and fatoush are as good as you'd find in Damascus. Save room for desert and head back to Shafer Rd. and turn south for a few hundred yards and then turn left into Shatila Bakery. Order whatever pastry looks best to you (they are all extremely delicious), then walk over to the ice cream counter and treat yourself to a scoop of pistacio or coconut HOMEMADE ice cream or whatever other flavor you may prefer. When you're done with desert, drive south on Shafer Rd. to Michigan Ave. and turn right on Michigan Ave.; the Dearborn City Hall will be on your left. Drive west on Michigan Ave. back to the Ritz Carlton. Go back up to your room and freshen up, take a nap, and get ready for dinner at Talal's or La Shish on Michigan Ave. Two great arabic restaurants where everything is good, even the baby lamb's tongue sauteed in garlic. The fresh-baked bread "hubbouz" is to die for. Don't worry about dessert, you won't have room. But just in case ask for the dessert menu and you'll soon be in a sugar-induced anaphylactic coma, but what a way to go. To be safe, just order the rice pudding which is as good as you'll find anywhere. To be cont. (I'm out of virtual space).

257 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Nov 14, 2004 1:02:27pm
258 ShanNYC  Sun, Nov 14, 2004 1:03:30pm

If LGF were around during the Vietnam War:

"Those bastard gooks dirty everything they touch."
"Crazy slanty-eyed bastards, their culture is degenerate."
"You know, Orange County used to be a decent place before all these gooks came here. Why are they even here? Fifth column! Fifth column!"
"ALL GOOKS MUST DIE!"

Thank you all so very much for showing to the world America's moral high ground. It is truly an indispensable service.

259 zulubaby  Sun, Nov 14, 2004 3:42:07pm

ShanNYC, so you have no problem with what the people in Dearborn are doing but you're offended by the comments here? It's only "racist" if it's against the precious Muslims, right? You're morally depraved.

260 lah-dee-dah-dah  Sun, Nov 14, 2004 4:09:13pm

#258 shannyc Different war--different world. The Vietnamese didn't attack the WTC or the Pentagon on 9/11. FYI #257 ploome hineni Paragraphs are my enemies. Pay atttention: my posts are all one paragraph. You remind me of my old spinster high school teacher 70-year old Miss McMullen, always criticizing my genius! LOL/Love ya'!!! Now back to the conclusion of my previous postWITH PARAGRAPHS JUST FOR YOU PLOOME HINENI BABY!!! Purposely, details and people-watching tips were omitted previously so as not to pre-dispose anyone to a prejudiced viewpoint of what you would see and hear if you follow my proposed Dearborn, MI, adventure itinerary. I do the Dearborn trip several times a year just to be amazed at the rapid "Middle-easternization" of the Dearborn area. The muslim transformation is spilling over into Detroit neighborhoods bordering the Dearborn city limits. I just wear my black XXL T-shirt emblazoned front & back with the calculated intimidation admonition; "DETROIT: Where the Weak are Killed and Eaten". Amazingly, nobody bothers little ol' 265 lb. lah-dee-dah-dah--not even the kafiyeh-wearing shitheads chanting their unintelligible screed. Just to be safe I carry the big special forces bayonet taped to my ankle in case anyone goes nutso on me. It looks rather odd in summer when I'm wearing shorts; but like I always say: "Joke 'em if they can't take a fuck." Seriously, pull a gun and you'll get blown to bits; but pull a knife and they run away shouting, "Crazy-fucking white boy!" as they scurry down Warren Ave. It surely must be time for a new paragraph by now, but my primitive apparatus does not see any need for an "indent capability;" so consider this to be the beginning of a new paragraph, ploome hineni, my new cyber friend (I hope). The second day of your Dearborn odyssey should include a supervised tour of Greenfield Village and the Henry Ford Museum, complete with bus transportation from the Ritz Carlton. All should be arranged in advance with the Ritz Carlton consierge. After your tour of Greenfield Village and the Ford Museum, you will be absolutely dumbfounded-awestruck by the unbelievable ironic contrast between the beautiful summer-sweet pure Americana of Greenfield Village/Henry Ford Museum, when compared with the "islamifacation" of Arab-held east Dearborn which you lived & breathed the day before. And believe me, it's not like a visit to San Fagcisco's China Town, or dinner at a restaurant in NYC's Little Italy. I used the term "Arab-held east Dearborn" because that is what it is, and that is why you feel the pure evil darkness of the ominous shadow of PLO/Hamas control of the area. BELIEVE IT!!! That's right, you can experience the middle-eastern "Arab Street" of east Dearborn; and the baseball, hot dogs, Mom, & apple pie of Greenfield Village/Ford Museum all in the same day, all in the same city by traveling to what is virtually 2 different countries/cultures, less than 2 miles apart, without the necessity of a passport. My mind has been so thoroughly boggled by growing up and living in this area of Michigan for 50+ years and seeing (but not truly believing or comprehending) this time-warp transformation from Henry Ford's good ol' Dearborn to it becoming an appendage of Nosir Araflab's evil haunts, with the vile visage and sickening spectre of UBL permeating east Dearborn with the reeking spiritual stench of radical wahabe/pro-palestinian islam. You can surely feel it--you can almost smell it. To a Red, White, & Blue native-born American, the mentally-tortuous aspect of this appalling Dearborn situation is knowing that much of the sizeable monetary profits generated by the economy of PLO-held east Dearborn, eventually finds its way to hamas, the PLO, and numerous other terrorist groups. American dollars converted into the deaths of Jews and Americans killed routinely by islamic terrorists in the Middle-east. To be Continued. Puking now

261 Miggie  Sun, Nov 14, 2004 4:38:40pm

260 lah-dee-dah-dah

I am interested in what you have to say, I think, but you have to take to heart what ploome hineni advised ... use paragraphs and (horrors) punctuation. Even if it means admitting at some level that your old teacher may have been actually trying to educate you.

If you are interested in just spewing out what you have to for your own sake, fine, practically everyone will just skip over it. You will have wasted some bandwidth and made our eyes glaze over, but that's it.

On the other hand, if you want to communicate something you are only going to do that if you accommodate the reader or the recipient of your message. If your messages had been broken down into some intelligible pieces, I may have read it and learned something from your experiences there. As it stands now, it is just too much of a task.

262 CowardKerry  Sun, Nov 14, 2004 5:56:42pm

Miggie appears to be the lgf cop on duty tonight. But in reality she sounds like a paranoid bi-polar to me. Take some meds honey, if the shitheads try anything over here again they will be dealt with swiftly.

263 lah-dee-dah-dah  Sun, Nov 14, 2004 8:03:35pm

#261 miggie Just skip over it--it's too high-powered for you to comprehend. Or better yet take a valium, slow down and read it one word at a time until your eyes glaze over. Or you could break my post down into paragraphs for me, and punctuate it to your liking. Good, now I hope you're actually pissed off enough to expand your attention span sufficiently to take the time to read and understand my post. If not, it's your loss--not mine. Better yet, print my post and have someone read it to you; but no, that would be too much of a task. #262 CowardKerry. Good advice to miggie to get a grip. However, think about it for a few seconds: pre-empting the shitheads is the optimal situational strategy. Dealing swiftly with the shitheads AFTER they try something may be too late for miggie, me, or even you. We need to break up this islamic LI LI LI LI LI LI LI LI LI LI LI LI LI LI LI LI party BEFORE they try anything else. And now for the final chapter of my previous post. In summation, I truly love this country, our beloved USA. As illustrated in my previous 3 or 4 posts here on LGF; I truly love the USA (Dearborn, Michigan included). I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND IT MOST OF THE TIME. Good night and best wishes to you all in LGF-land. And lah-dee-dah-dah for you, me and miggie. 'Night all--I've left the blog./sigh

264 Miggie  Sun, Nov 14, 2004 9:23:02pm

262 CowardKerry

Miggie appears to be the lgf cop on duty tonight. But in reality she sounds like a paranoid bi-polar to me. Take some meds honey, if the shitheads try anything over here again they will be dealt with swiftly.

First of all you have my sex wrong, honey, and second of all, you seem to unaware of the shit the Sons of Allah are pulling all the time over here. You may not know about what they are doing on campuses, as one example, all the time and nobody is doing anything about it. How much you want to bet that they will "try anything over here again" and that they will not "be dealt with swiftly"?

Move on, nothing to see here.

265 Miggie  Sun, Nov 14, 2004 9:47:06pm

63 lah-dee-dah-dah

I read your post up to the point where you ask me to break down your paragraphs for you. If you don't want to make the effort to organize whatever thoughts you may be trying to communicate, why should I?

If you want to remain some kind of unread author that is fine with me. The world and I have gotten along very well without your insights so far. Thank you very much.

I guess, from your oppositional defiance (no doubt in all else as well) that you must be about 17 years old. You keep thinking that you are so brilliant that everyone else should make an effort to get what you are writing and you'll continue to be a waste of whatever you think you may have going for you.

You may also want to take note and store away for reflection some day that you read all of my post and I read about a sentence of yours. You've read and understood what I had to say and you wasted your time writing anything to me. Even so, I"ve wasted too much time on you already and won't waste any more.

266 piglet  Sun, Nov 14, 2004 10:01:48pm
If LGF were around during the Vietnam War:

Take note that Ho Chi Minn never attacked anyone inside the united states. He would not have risked it.
Perhaps you should have said, "if LGF were (sic) around during WW2."

But then the Democratic President rounded up Japanese Americans and put them in camps surrounded by guns and barbed wire. Perhaps, if LGF was around during the 1930's. Gee, then maybe the us could have gotten into the war earlier, maybe Anne Frank might have survived the war, moved to Israel and fought for the irgun. And maybe a few million others might have lived also.

267 lah-dee-dah-dah  Mon, Nov 15, 2004 5:02:37am

#265 miggie Aw, come on now miggie; be a good sport! I was just a-funnin' with ya'! I have no illusions of self-importance in my words having some profound effect toward the benefit of mankind. Let's not take all this tooo seriously! I must commend you upon your neat, orderly, well-punctuated retorts to my posts and I thank you for taking the time to do so. Truly, I'm not trying to be a jerk; however, when I draft a post then preview it, correcting the spelling & punctuation errors, which are usually numerous, at this time I also endeavor to separate my rants into cohesive paragraphs. After much effort on my part to do so, the spelling corrections take hold; but my indentations for the start of each new paragraph just disappear and the post merges into one tightly-knit weave of words. Regarding your comment that you and the world have gotten along just fine without reading my posts; your statement is a logical impossibility. I'm assuming that either I'm totally inept at indentation technology or that my primative PC apparatus has a pervasive malfunction which prevents me from separating my thoughts into neat, orderly, easy-to-read paragraphs. My crabbiness toward yours & others' requests for paragraph upgrades has been a reflection of my frustration at my failure to figure out how to comply with your requests. Please don't take this personally, miggie, IT wonk expert personage which you must be, but EAT SHIT AND DIE!!! Just kidding!!! LOL Can't we just get along? Truly, I have enjoyed our limited exchange of ideas, and I'll be hurt emotionally when you dump me for a more cooperative corespondent. Have You and the World truly been getting along just fine??? Methinks not! Have you ever read the Bible? I have, and it took me over a year to do so. I'm in no way comparing my rantings to the Holy Bible, so don't jump all over this crude example of what I'm trying to explain to you. GOD BLESS AMERICA! AND GOD BLESS YOU TOO MIGGIE! Ah, to be 17 years old again as you have estimated my age (in jest I presume). One is as old as one feels and others perceive them to be. Believe me Miggie, youth is wasted on the young. I was born in the late 1940's so I should know. Best wishes to you and LGF'ers everywhere!

268 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Nov 15, 2004 9:02:35am

The things you see when you don't have a Hellfire.

269 lah-dee-dah-dah  Mon, Nov 15, 2004 9:18:27am

#268 Ward Cleaver AMEN!

270 CowardKerry  Mon, Nov 15, 2004 11:58:27am

Miggie only acts like a lithium taking female seeking therapy. I get it now.


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