I notice no one put their name on this garbage either...

I wonder what their headlines for all the Islamist suicide attacks are.

DCMC

Meanwhile, Margaret Hassan's husband is pleading with the savages who murdered his wife. Maybe Kevin Sites could get himself embedded with that group.

"Some analysts said yesterday the footage of the slaying had the potential to be as damaging to the US cause in Iraq as photographs taken of US Iraqi prisoner abuse in Baghdad's Abu Ghraib jail earlier this year."

Didn't see that one comin'!

/sarcasm

Another example of the right wing bias in the news.

/dem strategist

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Bias? What bias? That stone-hearted American ruthlessly murdered an innocent iraqi citizen who was just trying to pray in the #545366.56674 holiest site in islam!!

So now killing the enemy in wartime is murder? WTF...

BOYCOTT

Yep, guilty, guilty, guilty...even before an investigation.

/sarc

Boycott those kangaroo-sucking, dingo-licking, wallaby-fondling, operatic Aussie pricks!

#11

Australians are not to blame. just a couple moonbats. please apologize

Surly the "Press" remains neutral and without judgment and simply presents the facts.

Right?

I say burn every copy of Crocodile Dundee. Piss off the Aussies and the environmentalist; two birds one stone.

/Not to be confused with my Islamic Arch-Nemesis Pook-el-blinky

If it actually was a murder, the media wouldn't report it like this. They'd try to make the cops look bad or like the killer was just a victim of society.

Now I know where Paul Krugman is spending his "sabbatical."

13 American Infidel

I wonder what all of these people will say once the military says that the killing was JUSTIFIED...

It will be a one sentence line on page 16 in same print---after they have milked this for a month and done all possible to damage the coming elections there.

I will apologize for the sane Australians. That excludes all Australians except those who made Crocodile Dundee, the Crocodile Hunter, and most in the media. Happy?

In an enlightened future, war will be conducted without such horrors. Perhaps by opposing forces submitting to a UN-run lottery, and those chosen will be given painless injections and euthanized. Why, oh why, can we not just all get along, in war?!

the list of "against us" is growing faster than those "with us"

Australians are not to blame. just a couple moonbats. please apologize

All the Aussies I know view Americans quite favorably. Geeez, we don't toss the baby out with the bath water do we?

Australian dhimmimedia, thy name is scum.

Too bad the people of Australian have been disarmed en masse. They're making themselves a prime breeding ground for islamalignancy.

At the end of the story they point out that the insurgents are known to play dead and then shoot. So how can that line and the headline be in the same story???
ARGHH!

#22 balisong

Uh-huh---it's World War IV. And we get to stand alone for now, just like Great Britain, during WWII.

We also, unfortunately, have to fight our own fifth column, as well as the Islamofacists.

At least the media has standards. A Marine who risks his life and isn't even charged with anything gets less respect than your average criminal gets. That's about par for the course.

At least they aren't even pretending to be unbiased anymore. It makes score keeping easier.

I wrote a letter to the editor at the Australian.

Whie many Australians seem to be very pro American, sorry to say that while I was in Germany last month, the only anti-American comments I heard were from Englishmen, Aussies and New Zealanders.

Swear to God, one New Zealander went off on a rant about how all American Presidents are really related to the British royal family and America was secretly being controlled by England in a bid to take over the world. I shit you not.

I work in the art and entertainment field so I see more than my fair share of dipshits, but while they are all polite and friendly on an individual basis, they have ridiculous ideas about Americans.

Guess they won't get a clue until some jihadi asshole walks a bomb into the movie sets at Wellington or something. Only a matter of time...course, they'll blame it on Americans, I guess.

Love them, hate their ideas.

Kisses to the Aussies anyway, but please do something about your moonbats.

As I said in an earlier threat, nobody even knows that the "insurgent" wasn't dead before the Marine shot him. He looks quite dead in the video. Yet the MSM is taking it for granted that he was only wounded.

Wow. You'd think it was a war or something.

I am SO getting a monstrous headache from the continual regurgitation of left-wing media bilge.

*swoon*

In future, when accompanied by embedded reporters like Mr. Sites, the soldiers should turn to the reporter and say "OK - you search him for weapons".

Then you'll see how chicken shit they can be. OTH - one blown up reporter may be useful. Remember the saying: a conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by realty.

Please don't forget the their Prime Minister (who they soundly re-elected has supported the U.S. throughout), was the only world leader to say the right thing when commenting on Arafat's death...calling him for the murdering terrorist that he was...

Yeah, I noticed this yesterday and asked here - why did they do that? Asking again.

Why did this paper do that? The rest of the paper's site seems fairly blanced. And news experts or Australians know?

Is it possible someone at the paper did it based on his/her own bias? The story itself is not reflective of the header, and this reads like a header from 50 years ago.

Also, how does one make a suggestion to Charles? :) I might want to give it a shot. E-mail?

Whoever wrote that article deserves a booting. Can any of the Aussies here have that arranged? I understand its one of your proudest traditions.

31 Miss Trixie

Here, have two aspirins. I just some myself although probably won't help. It's a tension headache for me again today.

I love the Aussies and don't blame them for their moonbat press---we certainly have our own.

(Does every moonbat go for a journalist degree in college?)

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I am sure they would appreciate American imput...

PIMF

"Do any news experts or Australians know?"

Just like Islamism, Communism knows no geopolitical boundaries. No nation is immune.

Now give Australians back their firearms.

Listen - the ARTICLE was not the problem, people.

IT WAS THE HEADER!!!

I read this yesterday. The article was the same as everyone else's article.

If you are going to call, find out who was writing headlines that day.

My guess is ask the managing editor who was doing so, and tell him/her someone slipped the paper a mickey. I hope I'm right.

I read a bit of this paper, and an editorial from yesterday was very good - I agreed with most of it. Don't hang the whole paper out to dry because of one moonbat header.

I swear to God, there are people who believe war is some kind of tea party. They totally ignore what the bad guys do, and our guys are just supposed to round 'em up, serve 'em lunch, and tuck 'em in with blankies.

How about a headline that screams, Subhumans Viciously Murder Life-Long Humanitarian Aid Worker?

#40 American Infidel

Thanx! (I'm glad somebody does!)

I do not blame Aussies in general on this. That would be like blaming all Americans for what CBS presents as news.

It is impossible to gauge how many friends we have in the world. Since the MSM crosses international boundaries and just loves sitting around smoking each other, there is no way we would ever hear that the majority of people in Britain or Australia support America in this conflict.

But, but, but... I hold to what I said earlier: the media people THINK they are damaging Bush and the American war effort.

Are they?

Or do more people than just us lizzies read this crap and ask themselves WTF?!

Doing it ain't the same as getting away with it. I think maybe they just don't know that... YET.

Plus, besides the screaming moonbat feel of the header, the header is just plain WRONG. You cannot say "murder" without conviction in the US, unless you add "alleged." Is that different in Australia?

Any Australians know?

#36 glwing

Thanks!

*Takes a LARGE swig of Jack to wash the aspirin down*
*wipes mouth with back of hand*

*BRAAAP!*

MUCH better, thankyouverymuch. I think I'll go lie down now.

*toddles off*

:D

Why does the US Military embed reporters? So they can accuse us of war crimes now? IT IS A WAR!!!

Wishing we would have just MOAB'd every square inch of Falluja from afar...

#13 American

I wonder what all of these people will say once the military says that the killing was JUSTIFIED...

They'll be on to their next one by then. Just squeezing what they can out of this as long as it will last. But they'll have something new to chew on by the time the investigation says, goddam right, he was supposed to kill the enemy!

Some analysts said yesterday the footage of the slaying had the potential to be as damaging to the US cause in Iraq as photographs taken of US Iraqi prisoner abuse in Baghdad's Abu Ghraib jail earlier this year.

Brought to you by the Australian equivalent of Christ Matthews.

Tell me where we are going to get the soldiers to fill our ranks if they have to worry that every time they kill the enemy they will be subject to prosecution. These DAMNED reporters are so intent on creating news instead of reporting facts and are subversive SOBs.

#51 Carolyn

These DAMNED reporters are so intent on creating news instead of reporting facts and are subversive SOBs.

They're just terminally stupid. Eventually, it might occur to them that being "imbedded" with the guys who carry the guns and pissing those guys off and continuing to expect them to protect you maybe wasn't such a smart idea.

They're just lucky that the roughest Marine has a hell of a lot more honor than they do. Jerks.

Also from the Australian
Just a few paragraphs here, read the entire POS
Incursion doomed Care chief

By John Kerin and Trudy Harris
November 18, 2004

THE US-led offensive on the Iraqi city of Fallujah could have been the final straw that led to the execution of Care Australia's Baghdad chief, Margaret Hassan.

The director of terrorism studies at the Australian National University, Clive Williams, said yesterday that negotiators in Iraq might have had a chance to secure her release if the US had held off their onslaught in Fallujah.

Yesterday it emerged that Scotland Yard believed there was a genuine chance of securing Mrs Hassan's release when an unnamed group holding her threatened to hand her over to terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who has been responsible for grisly beheadings of Westerners in Iraq. Surprisingly, the Jordanian-born terrorist responded with a statement that if Mrs Hassan - who worked tirelessly to help her fellow Iraqis over 30 years - was handed over to him he would immediately release her.

Here's professional opinions that simply it: Was the Iraqi a prisoner of war? Was he a threat? And if he made ANY move, the soldier was justified.

Lt. Col. Michael Newton, a law professor at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point in New York, said there is only one question that needs to be answered in determining guilt.

"The only factual issue is whether that combatant constituted a threat," he said. "If he did, he was a lawful target. If he was not a threat, Article 12 of the Geneva Conventions makes it very clear he was entitled to be treated humanely and protected." [Link: seattlepi.nwsource.com...]

Westphal said he couldn't say for sure from NBC's account whether the man was a prisoner.
"The fact that was reported was that he was wounded. But whether he was already a prisoner or not was not clear to me," he said.

Charles Heyman, a British infantry veteran and senior defence analyst with Jane's Consultancy Group in London, defended the Marine.

"In a combat infantry soldier's training, he is always taught that his enemy is at his most dangerous when he is severely injured," Heyman said.

There is the danger that the wounded enemy may try to "take one with you" with a hidden firearm or a grenade.
If the man makes even the slightest move, Heyman added, "in my estimation they would be justified in shooting him".

[Link: www.theage.com.au...]

51 Carolyn

Tell me where we are going to get the soldiers to fill our ranks if they have to worry that every time they kill the enemy they will be subject to prosecution. These DAMNED reporters are so intent on creating news instead of reporting facts and are subversive SOBs.

Agreed. Especially re the hotdogging reporters yelling "look at me!"

However, the military basically won't give a s**t - they'll do things by the book. This is not the first time an incident has been investigated, and there have been a couple of convictions, since we've been in Iraq (and no, I am not talking about the pantie-head nonsense). In one, the soldier claimed a mercy killing as his motive - um, you can't do that.

It's just that Mr. Hotdog was not there to illegally post his video on Al-Jazeera without permission.

I seem to have missed the headlines of the previous day,,,

"U.S. Marine killed by booby-trap while trying to aid injured Jihadnik in Falujah"""

the thing that chapps my ass is we are fighting a humane
war and in doing so risking the lifes of our soldiers.

we didn't have to risk any of our men's lifes to take out
any of their cities.

they know it . MSM knows it. We know it.

imagine what the headlines would be if we really fought a war.

David??

Tamar

That bloody left wing media gives all us Aussies a bad name. Just remember that they do not represent the views of most Australians, as we clearly showed on our election day.

Now they are just scrambling for stories because they are throwing a fit over John Howard and George W Bush's election wins.

# 16

The Aussie's are one of our strongest allies, why rat pack the whole country over one POS publication.

I think the BEST place for the Moonbat Kevin Sites (Leftist Journnalist) would be the lead-out guy on the next "raid" He can film what being the first guy out from cover, charging into another builging or mosque. With his camerwe rolling, he can capture the "action" . Hopefully, he also catches a bullet or RPG, Grenade, or other ordinance. Maybe, then, his liberal-lefty twisted, distorted journalism may take on a tiny hint of truth and reality. Even better, he could experience what a KIA actually feels like.

These embedded journalists are parisitic pains in the ass, and propaganda drones of the left and for the enemy.

I back the marine, and his group.

If the "Wounded" guy playing dead even flinched, I would have dusted him too. No Questions, no regrets. The Terrorist would have turned and detonated the whole lot of people in there. Besides, the other wounded guy was surendering on the longer version of the videotape, and was not shot. (SEE B.S. showed the longer segment in the wee hours of the morning, and edited it down in time/content for later broadcasts.)

Hey
how abt the aussies starting a website apologising for their moonbatish media with pics n placards like

" we're sooo sorry our media is sooo stupid!"

etc.??

Hah! Headline now changed to:
Marine filmed shooting prisoner

I wish Greg Kelly had been the embed. He's a Marine too. :)

63 longwhitecloud

HAHAHAHAHA~

and - I bet the managing editor is booting a lacky moonbat header writer around his/her desk, even as we speak. :)

Pretty sure Australia has an innocent until proven guilty common-law basis to its law, just like the US.

If the lefty view keeps spewing out of Aussieland, They're off my list, totally. I quit buying any type of F-ing French wines or products, no German junk, and now, no more Aussie wines !!! If the bast*rds can't honestly report the events without the lefty twist, they can shove their wines and products up their butts, and cork it!

They understand "Consumer Boycotts". Sure improters can rack up inentory that doesn't move, but without consumer purchasing, there is no market, no profit, no demand, and no prosperity far the peckerheads in the related economies. The French and german economies are suffering. Good!!!

This paper is not all moonbatty - example.

Article in The Australian.
Reproduced from Guardian UK, no less.

Scrapbook: Fighting the good fight in Fallujah

November 18, 2004
Iraq's deputy PM Barham Salih, in The Guardian, on Fallujah's liberation from murderers who fear democracy

on Fallujah's liberation from murderers who fear democracy

Quote:

The real aim of these terrorists ... is to derail the national elections planned for January. They know the more successful these elections are, the less space there will be for their nihilistic brand of violence.

#65 Cattt

Pretty sure Australia has an innocent until proven guilty common-law basis to its law, just like the US.

Definitely. And, I was impressed by the article on the late un-lamented Arafat in The Australian. At the time they seemed to be the only ones in this part of the world with the blinkers off.

Wow, my first hat tip. What is strange is that the report doesn't back up the headline. Most reporters dont write the headlines, I think editors do so direct your comments to the editor of this rag.

Newspaper headlines are designed to attract readers - the higher the circulation, the more they can charge for advertising.

It is a marketing ploy.

The war is being judged by the same type of eople who brought you ...

Meow, Meow, Meow, Meow, Meow, Meow,...

69 Rancher

Yep - I suggest that you call the managing editor, if you want 1) to complain, and 2) to thank him for updating.

I have a feeling an underling is in deep doodoo at the moment, so he might be in a bad mood.

Rancher, congrats on the hat tip.

How do you do a suggestion?

Ahh headlines...those are for the skimmers in the crowd that just want to think they know what they're talking about around the water cooler.

This marine was justified period end of story. BUT you will probably not see any ink about it.

I hope that marine survives, comes back home, runs for office and is elected president of the united states. I'd vote for him on his record todate.

Cox & Forkum Cartoon on Media and Soldiers

Scroll down, you'll recognize the one I want to show you

Who vets the "embeds" for duty with combat units?

If the Marines had done a background check on Sites, would he still have gotten the job?

Wow, Rayra, what sort of abrasive got into your panties?

Take it easy on Australia. They're in iraq. They re-elected Howard. They are our friends.

the list of "against us" is growing faster than those "with us"

I don't think so. The LLL would like you to believe that, but most people I talk to can't believe the BS the TV puts on today. They are just continuing to take their credibility throw it away. Who believes any Network News today?

I actually feel sorry for those Aussie bastards who have been emasculated by liberal Aussie gun laws. They cannnot legally protect themselves from a snake or a spider let alone a criminal with a gun.

Australia is a nice place to visit in February, but if they keep this up, I'll keep my dollars at home.

As far as I'm concerned if you're even in Fallujah at the moment then the marines have an excuse to take you out. They told all civilians to flee, so therefore they must presume that eveyone is a militant. And if you are a civilian in Fallujah at the moment and you get killed, then it's hardly America's fault because they told everyone to flee! This should end all arguments, but the press still don't get it. Those marines are out there day after day risking there lives and it's disgusting that they get so much abuse for one incident like this.

They didn't even wait until the second sentence to mention Abu Ghraib. It's the 18th word in the first sentence.

Oh, THAT liberal media...

TV (Harry)

#78 Thom

Take it easy on Australia. They're in iraq. They re-elected Howard. They are our friends.

Thanks, Thom - a voice of moderation amongst the knee-jerk reactions. Do you guys who want to boycott Oz products and threaten not to visit Australia really expect the Press in a Western democracy, which embraces freedom of speech, to publish only what you personally agree with at all times?
I also get wild over much that is published, but how can I be justified in condemning everyone in the country concerned, as if it is collectively their doing? Will you personally accept the blame for Michael Moore's spoutings, or any others of his persuasion? Like to see a boycott of the products manufactured in the States? Let's have some balance here.

#36 glwing
It very well be true. KU is a journalism school and the only blue area in the state of Kansas.

Do you guys who want to boycott Oz products and threaten not to visit Australia really expect the Press in a Western democracy, which embraces freedom of speech, to publish only what you personally agree with at all times?

OK, I really like Victorian Bitter beer, so you make a valid point. I won't buy any of their fecking newspapers and I'll send them nasty emails, but I continue to visit their beaches in February with those poor guys who can't buy guns to protect themselves from criminals who don't care what the laws says.

I snapped off a Letter to the Editor at The Australian (Murdoch's first newspaper), then I saw that they had a phone number listed for their New York office, & felt compelled to call & register my disgust with The Australian's NY bureau. I spoke to their NY bureau chief, Rodney, who is a very pleasant guy...he was also surprised & chagrined to see such a headline in his paper. He told me that he was sure that "heads will roll" over this. I hope he's right.

Don't judge a nation by what is written in one newspaper.

USA/NYT. England/Guardian, Canada/Torontro Star.

#72 Cattt

I just posted on another thread with the link and I guess Charles noticed or others called his atention to it.

The Australian is actually Australia's best major newspaper. They do run some moonbatty opinion pieces, but they're countered by more level-headed writers, and they generally play it straight with the news. So this is rather out of character for them, more something that the (Melbourne) Age or the Sydney Morning Herald would do.

The Australian is owned by Rupert Murdoch, who is not known for moonbat sympathies. I think a sub-editor at News Corp might be looking for a new job today.

#82 longwhitecloud

Oh, and to that list add "and my brother-in-law is Australian".

;)

Rancher

Well, cool.

I still can't understand how the managing or floor editor missed this moonbat header - it was out of character for this paper.

#4 Margaret Hassan's husband is pleading with the savages who murdered his wife. Maybe Kevin Sites could get himself embedded with that group.

Let's not be hasty and assume he hasn't been;
Kevin Sites Detained By Fedayeen Near Tikrit
[CNN Transcript Aired April 11, 2003]

Anyone else smell rat?

#86 hornet

Judging whole nations by what is written in one newpaper seems to be endemic among some here, unfortunately. Everything's black and white, you're in total agreement with me personally or you're my mortal enemy.
No nation can do the bidding of another and still claim to be a free society. And contrary views make for healthy debate which can't help but be a good thing. Even if I don't agree with views expressed (and I often don't) I can't impose my opinion on the whole nation because of it. Writing to protest is legit; boycotts against a faithful ally is counter-productive and extremely short-sighted. Anyone would think that America has no moonbats of its own. The double-standards being employed here are staggering. Oh and I am not an Aussie, by the way!

A caution.

In this thread, I see a number of knee-jerk angry reactions. I know the people who are ranting at this newspaper or this article did NOT bother to read the paper's site first, because this newspaper and this article are balanced. Only the header was off kilter, probably because there is a fifth column on the floor at the paper. I don't doubt someone will be in deep doodoo now that the paper has been made aware of the header, which has been updated.

Folks, a piece of advice, which you can ignore if you wish, of course - just my opinion. Venting your spleen here may be fun, but how about pausing and doing a little thinking first? When LLLs look at this site, they cherry pick the venting comments, which are in essense useless, and they ignore any with thought.

92 longwhitecloud

What you said. :) (American for "I agree.")

#89 Thom

Oh, and to that list add "and my brother-in-law is Australian".

Ah ha! And our new daughter-in-law is also an Australian!! ;-)

I objected to all of it. This report from “agencies” was just token copy. If the Australian can’t write their own version they should not write anything. Lazy bastards.

I started my email with:

“The episode in Fallujah in no way resembles the Abu Ghraib prison situation. Your transparent anti-American attempt to leverage another scandal puts our own Australian Military personnel at risk. Prisoners being held after arrest or surrender are completely different legal entities to illegal combatants in an urban warfare operation. Your comparison is odious.”

… had a rave about illegal combatants, Geneva Accords, war crimes blah blah

finished with…

“It is very thoughtful of Mr Sites to care so much for our sensibilities, but we are adults. “Too graphic” has become code for “its not as bad as I want to spin it”.

The unedited video of this incident was available for viewing on Reuters website, where we can judge for ourselves the circumstances of this incident.”

/not good in the mornings.

Kevin Sites Detained By Fedayeen Near Tikrit
[CNN Transcript Aired April 11, 2003]

How did Kevin Sites avoid getting the Daniel Pearl treatment? What kind of deal did he cut to earn his release? While the MSM has our Marines on the rack, who's investigating Kevin's questionable activities behind enemy lines?

Apparently (back then), Kevin Sites wasn't even an embed, according to CNN's Aaron Brown;

The experiences of reporter Kevin Sites over a period of several weeks now. He is not an embed. He just dropped in to the northern part of the country.

Seems a 500# bomb almost nailed Kevin Sites (animus?);
U.S. Marine Battalions Engaged in Fierce Fighting of War Against Iraqi Paramilitary Units, regular forces in Nasiriyah
[CNN Transcript Aired March 28, 2003]

SITES: Here it comes. Here it comes, guys...

What was this guy doing then reporting on coalition logistical and force movements behind enemy lines?

I repeat: Anyone else smell rat?

I hope that when this Marine is cleared of wrongdoing he sues the shit out of any publication that pronounced him guilty of a crime before any verdict was rendered.

#96 Anabel

Good point. Shows a lazy editor at the paper, who barfed up agencies info and let this header get by him/her.

I hope the editor learns from your message (bet it's not the only one he/she got, hahaha).

I hope Sites never gets a post of importance again, where he can piss this LLL crap (sorry about mixed metaphor) into the stream of the MSM. Let him go work for NPR. :)

Don'r rap all Aussies with this story. They have their moonbat press too. John Howard is a friend of the USA and so are voters ho kept him in power (by a big margin).

My friend, an Aussie, was the biggest Bush supporter I knew. Unfortunately he could not vote so we got some kid
who likely wouldn't vote to vote in his place.

A

#97 Terp Mole

(Sniffs) - yeah, I do. (smell rat)

Re Terp - you in Maryland? If so, cool. We're not all blue here.

#101

Terp - you in Maryland?

That's classified, mam... else I lose mole status.

Somebody's gotta' keep an eye on the enemy within on campus, n'est-ce pas?

If anyone hasn't mentioned it before, Australia isn't the chief bastion of moonbat-itis. It's New Zealand.

The New Zealand Herald, which never met an article from the Guardian or Independent that it didn't quote verbatim (seems there isn't much of a base for NZ reporters here, so most of the Herald news is actually gained from other sources), ran the accused Marine story yesterday on its front page, half page coverage, above the fold, complete with large color photo and bold headline.

Funny, but I don't recall such coverage being given to the torture chambers found in Fallujah lately...

I am a US Citizen living in the vaginocracy that is New Zealand. Sometimes, you just gotta say, "what the F***!"

/sigh

The Australian (owned by Rupert Murdoch, an American citizen) is capable of quality journalism, and generally well-regarded for it. Unfortunately, it also hosts some parasitic moonbats, and every so often some of their excrement gets smeared onto its pages, as has obviously happened here.

... which is why I no longer read it. I don't like to choke on my breakfast!

As for Australian attitudes in general, the moonbats over here are the same breed as the moonbats in the U.S., and every bit as much a headache, but the last election result proves that they are not representative of real Australians. John Howard's government was returned with an increased majority, let's not forget.

It seems likely that a moonbat headline writer wil be looking for a new job by tomorrow (today in the US).
Professional suicide for the sake of an inflammatory and potentially libelous word-bite would seem to be evidence not only of terrorist sympathies but of actual mental illness.
The Oz fifth column are in even greater distress than their American cohorts, since they have the re-election of Howard to contend with, as well as the re-election of Bush. On top of their defeat at the hands of the democratic process in two countries, the Oz-left is enraged that Howard was the only world leader who did not kiss Arafat's dead arse.
Let them rage, fucking lemming-tribe kool-aid drinkers, until they run themselves right over a cliff.

Apparently - via Roger Simon's blog, this marine - the one who improved the gene pool, was himself shot in the face previously.

Gee d'you think that's any reason to be risk-averse?

Author! Author!

Pop. Pop. He's dead now...

Anyone that wants to hear what General Patton would have said about fighting the islamo-nazis at Fallujah can check this out.

BETTER MEN THAN ME

It's INSPIRING.. but it's also 8MB

To download, go to [Link: www.moviebus.com...] and scroll down to the link in Sound Reviews called BETTER MEN THAN ME

The Australian media, like their US counterparts, do seem to give great emphasis to the pronouncements of fifth columnists and terror-apologist authoritarians, even though these are a minority in Australia.
All in the name of diversity and fairness, no doubt.
If they are so concerned with diversity of opinion, however, why don't they poll Australian military personnel and, especially, Pacific War veterans for their take on this incident?

I'm rather surprised at The Australian. They are usually much more balanced.

The headline in the Sydney Morning Herald (the local leftie rag) called it an 'execution' yesterday, but the murder of Margaret Hassan is relegated to page 11 of todays edition.

Yes, the lefties in Australia are massively pissed off because they lost the recent election so resoundingly, they will stoop to any depth to discredit Bush and Howard.

On the other hand, there is a great opinion piece in the Daily Telegraph supporting the soldiers actions, unfortunately not online.

This is shameful, the young soldier committed no crime, except the 'crime' of being careful - God bless him and all soldiers in Iraq.

# pwinWHOH

Does the US lefty press report the truth? I dont think so.

Rather than judging Australians (who have been the strongest ally of America) by idiot leftie press headlines, judge us on the result of our recent election.

#103 Wanderlust

The New Zealand Herald, which never met an article from the Guardian or Independent that it didn't quote verbatim

Ditto Al-Reuters and AP, alas.

Could you link to the actual article please? Do you mean this one?

I'd imagine the NZ Herald is not alone in obtaining its international stories from outside sources. As you know, there is no national newspaper in NZ and it is unlikely that any one paper would be able to afford overseas correspondents of its own. The Herald serves mainly the Auckland region with its population of approx 1.3 million.

The bias of the editors of the NZ Herald is well-known and has been much commented upon in the past. All anyone can do is to keep protesting in Letters to the Editor - and refusing to buy it, of course. But the main point of my previous posts has been to refute the idea that an entire nation should be rubbished and its products boycotted because of a newspaper's bias.

Just wanted to say that I love Australia and Australians! I read Tim Blair's blog faithfully to keep up to date on Australian politics and culture. I hope to visit Australia someday soon.

It's a sad fact that every country has its share of moonbats. Look at Canada. Yesterday a lot of us were pounding unmercifully on Canada and Canadians because of that twit Wolfman or Woodchuck or Weasel or Wombat (or whatever his damn name was -- I can't be bothered to look it up!), the one who wrote the piece in the Toronto Star about arresting President Bush. All that whomping on Canada was great for letting off steam, but honestly it was a bit unfair to the sensible Canadians, many of whom are Lizardoids themselves, and to the Canadian military, who are doing the best they can with scandalously poor equipment... but I digress.

Anyway, at least in Australia the moonbats aren't in charge... poor, poor New Zealand. :-(

Cheers, everybody!

the list of "against us" is growing faster than those "with us"

So be it. WHO CARES?

We are right and the world is wrong, and those of us who love freedom are going to prove to them it's wrong or die trying. If THEY DIDN'T WANT NO CRAP, THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE STARTED NO CRAP.

WE WERE ATTACKED. IF WE HADN'T BEEN ATTACKED NONE OF THIS WOULD BE HAPPENING.
Crap, reading LGF all day sure can depress you. I don't know what to think - maybe the Iraqi's cheered when the US was hit because they knew that FREEDOM would come for their corrupt government and maybe we'd come all the way to Baghdad this time and free them all.( Which is exactly what we've done).

OR, maybe this is the end of it all.

And they call us stupid.

STUPID MUSLIMS! RRRGGGHHH!

( in my best ghetto slang, thank you very much)

#113 Mary in LA

because of that twit Wolfman or Woodchuck or Weasel or Wombat

I think, to be fair to the Canadians, that guy Wombat is an Ozzie immigrant! ;-)

Anyway, at least in Australia the moonbats aren't in charge... poor, poor New Zealand. :-(

Ah yes, well, they might be in charge, but they got in on a minority vote. If (and it's a big "if") we had a conservative opposition with any charisma, the situation would most likely be very different here. The Labour Govt is doing well economically, and that's what generally wins elections, but they are in power by default and need minority party support to govern. Those with ingrained Moonbattiudes tend to grab all the headlines and it is currently 'fashionable' among those who like to think of themselves as the educated elite to support them. The so-called silent majority thinks otherwise, in my experience.

I think, to be fair to the Canadians, that guy Wombat is an Ozzie immigrant! ;-)

LOL! You're right, of course. :-)

Longwhitecloud, if I ever do manage to get south of the Equator, I'd love to visit New Zealand, too. Southern Hemisphere Lizardoid Minion Meet-up!

#116 Mary in LA

I'd love to visit New Zealand, too. Southern Hemisphere Lizardoid Minion Meet-up!

So glad to hear that you're not letting the constant diet of negative stuff about NZ put you off. While you're travelling to this part of the world, it makes good sense to visit both countries. They are such a contrast, though we share much in common and feel quite at home in Oz.
We've just come back from a visit to Adelaide and the Barossa Valley. We drove from Melbourne to Adelaide on the "shorter" inland route, and back along the Great Ocean Route, which we'd been wanting to do for ages. It is quite spectacular in places but we really are very spoilt coming from New Zealand with its wonderful variety of scenery so easily accessible. Just make sure you don't try to see all of NZ in 2 weeks! Many people make that mistake and have no time to really savour all it has to offer, much to their regret. NZ looks very small next to our enormous neighbour, but we are larger than Britain and only slightly smaller than Italy.
A Southern Hemisphere Lizaroid Minion Meet-up - now that would take some organising! ;-) It'd be fun though!

I am very surprised by the headline in the article. The Australian is normally a very good newspaper that has no hesitation about calling out Muslim barbarity when it happens. I belong to numerous news groups on MSN and I frequently use The Australian to make my point. Let's hope this was a one-off.

I'm a Kiwi living in the U.S. I read Australian newspapers onlin sometimes and I'd easily rank The Australian as one of their best.

Regarding New Zealand, please don't believe take comments posted on BBC by New Zealanders as accurately reflecting the views of the majority of the country. It always has me gritting my teeth seeing the BBC post the most absurd ramblings from far left extremists who happen to be New Zealanders. I have been submitting replies on BBC for a year on most major topics and my comments have never made it on their "Have your say" notice board. Those views on there are nothing like most people I know, and I have friends across the political spectrum.

The article's been disappeared. Imagine that!

#119 Robert O

my comments have never made it on their "Have your say" notice board.

You too? Good to know I'm not the only one. I've long since given up in disgust.

I have a roundup of MilBlogger reaction to this situation at [Link: smalltownveteran.typepad.com...]

"... Here is your situation Marine. You just took fire from unlawful combatants shooting from a religious building attempting to use the sanctuary status of their position as protection. ... Meanwhile (3 seconds later), you still have this terrorist that was just shooting at you from a mosque playing possum. What do you do?" -- Former SEAL Matthew Heidt

"I know that the Geneva Convention forbids killing enemy combatants who are wounded and unable to pose a threat. I also know that on today's battlefield, with booby-trapped bodies, suicide vests, and an enemy who cares nothing for "rules of war"- the Geneva Convention needs to be reexamined and more specifically defined." -- Blackhawk pilot "2Slick", writing from somewhere in the Sandbox

'This fact seems to be undisputed: the man was a combatant, and not a very nice boy. He had very recently been actively shooting at US Marines from a mosque. Sorry Charlie, there are numerous movies about people shooting at US Marines and the fate they generally meet. This guy may never have seen one - if he had this whole thing might not have happened. We must work harder at spreading our culture." -- Greyhawk, writing from Iraq

Come read the whole thing if you'd like.

Our Prime Minister and government may see things clearly, but our very own Australian LLL sure as he don't and won't.

Armchair generals. If they had to decide in a split second whether or not to fire, they'd probably fill their pants before being killed by the bad guys.

You'd think we learnt from the Munich appeasement, but no.

longwhitecloud, Robert O.,

I apologise if my rant earlier sounded like I was tarring all of New Zealand with a Clark-esque brush. I suppose I was just letting off steam over the fact that the moment someone here hears my [American] accent, I invariably get asked slanted questions about Bush, Iraq, etc.

I don't assume that all New Zealanders are clones of Queen Helen. I do get burned out occasionally when people here (here being the Southlands) assume that I must agree with their common sentiments regarding the States, which (when you compare and contrast said sentiments with NZ Herald, and its sources, Guardian and Independent) almost always echo what they watch on BBC.

I occasionally make up for my frustrations by patiently explaining the necessity of the doctrine of pre-emption to someone whose understanding of world politics is only as deep as a Fisk article.

When I end such conversations with, "would you rather be fighting them here?", I can almost feel their mental wheels grinding to a halt :)

So if you want to have a lizardoid convention in sheep country (I work with a lot of Aussies, and sheep jokes abound), I'm all for it...

Fact: Bush is not popular at all in Austraila. Anyone can give anecdotal evidence of "well i know this guy and he likes us". I know there are pro-America Australians. Hell, there are pro America French too.

Also, most Americans see Blair and think the UK is with us. but in a poll yesterday, Britons overwhelmingly said their relations with Europe are more important than their relations with the United States. To me, that is a rubicon crossed.

The article's been pulled, something The Australian does only on alternate leap-years. I'm not saying "heads will roll" over this one, only Jihadis do that stuff, but I'd bet dollars to doughnuts some copy editor is now looking for a new job.

As an Australian, I'm glad to see a bit (only a bit, mind you) of anti-Australian invective from various Americans in the comments. Why? Because although we're friends and allies, we're not a client state or puppet. Remember that, because some time in the future, you guys are going to ask for help, and we'll tell you you're full of it. Just as you may do the same to us, and we won't feel offended, we'll re-examine WTF we're doing, just as I hope you would do.

We're in Afghanistan and Iraq, and other places too, fighting alongside US forces not because we're friends - though we are. And not because we're loyal allies (unlike some countries in Western Europe I could mention), thou we're that too.

We're in it with you because it's in our self-interest to see the Jihadis become an extinct species. Some Australians were killed on 9/11, just as some Americans were killed at Bali. We took it personally, and will never retreat, never surrender, and never give up until Islamofascism is eradicated, root and branch, though it takes decades or centuries. Whether the US is in with us or not. We had contingency plans in case Kerry got in. It would have been a 2-year delay to the end of the war, no more.

Having the US armed forces, which are about a hundred times the size of ours, on our side makes it easier. But in 1999, we were prepared to take on the largest islamic country in the world, one nearly eight times the size of Iraq. And during the Iraq war, Australia was responsible for about 1/4 of Iraq, despite having only 2 battalions of commando and special forces there (about 1/4 of our regular army BTW). When asked pre-war for help post-war, we said "no can do". We said 'No" and made it stick. The US was good enough not to make a fuss, they saw our problems. That's the mark of true friendship, and loyal allies.

Now it so happens we've been able to spare some troops - another thing friends and allies do if they're able to. We help as much as we can.

I'm glad Uncle Sam's Misguided Children are on our side though. And the Black Watch. I just wish some of the Maori Batallions and the Canadian Princess Pats were in on it too.

One more thing - an Australian soldier would not have done what that Marine did. Our doctrine when there's a possibility of someone "playing possum" to do an attack is to use two shots to the head, not one.

#110,111 DianaC.

Yup, Lefties are lefties. Guess we shouldn't punish all the people, who did exercise great fortitude, and defeated the majority of liberal-lefties with your elections.

The moonbat press is a real disease, and needs its days to end. Reminds me of Tass news agency and Pravda of the former soviet union. Guess it just found new homes and syndications.

I'll open a Pokolbin Creek Vinyard, Southeastern Australian Chardonnay and toast to the successes of our joint troops in the middle east. Also toast the demise of moonbat lefties.

#126

I agree, two shots are better than one. I guess the Marie was trying to show restraint, huh. Look where that got him!

Correction on Marine-sorry for the repost

#126

I agree, two shots are better than one. I guess the Marine was trying to show restraint, huh. Look where that got him!

Thomas Sowell has a great article at TownHall.com today about the Marine shooting incident.

In a nutshell, the Geneva convention protections DO NOT APPLY TO COMBATANTS WHO DON'T WEAR A UNIFORM.

Period.

The insurgents and arab terrorists fighting against the Marines are NOT protected by the Geneva convention, nor should they be. They have a right to expect one thing from our Marines and one thing only. Death.

Semper Fi, Marines - we stand with you.

Tex

#126 Alan,

From a grateful American, I want to say thank you to you and your country for having the vision and the balls to stand with us in defeating the islamo-fascist scourge that is infecting the planet.

Your voice is refreshing - I get so sick of the euro-weenie leftists, sniveling and wringing their hands over the very idea that (gasp!) sometimes military force is necessary to defeat evil and bring about a lasting peace. They forgot what happened the last time a mustachioed dictator was left unchecked and unchallenged as he marched up and down the Rhineland. We did not attack the islamo-fascists. They attacked us (and western civilization in the process). We did not start this war, but we will finish it.

God bless Australia!

TexNaVet

I remember Tim Blair's crack about his country's press. He said that there was indeed an anti-American element in Australia, but they were kept penned up in newspaper offices.