Um, Charles - What do you open the videos with?

.RMM?

Realplayer?

mine opened with real

When an American soldier shoot someone, it’s on the whole planet in a few minutes.

That's because the Frogs use the proper EU-approved Multi-Lateral Bullets™.

What mor can we expect? The MSM who vilify USA are insane.

My Quicktime Player can't read it.

I only can hear in french but she is asking him if it was panic on the part of the soldiers to fire into the crowd -and he tries to say yes there was panic in the crowd - she says no not the crowd, the soldiers.
My French isn't so good anymore. Anyone know more?

What will the UN say about this?

The SILENCE is DEAFENING!

Why is this not on TV here? It is so horrible! The witnesses say that the crowd was unarmed.

very OT

Kerry is running a video on his website thanking his supporters and blaming Foxnews ans right wing talk show hosts for his defeat.

I'd post a link but my firewall won't let me view stupid websites.

Typical....

God, i hate the UN...and the French leaders.

For those of you who haven't seen the original videos you have to make time and watch them, especially the second one.

I cant believe I haven't heard one word about this on TV. I feel like I'm living in the Twilight Zone.

Can we send Jessie Jackson to talk with them about peace??? Please can we send Jessie??

OT: BAD/BAD article dissing Marines, USA, and President Bush.

Link

-pimf

I saw the video on Fox,John Kasich is sitting in for O'Rielly.

I like Kasich,he used to be my congressman,the only one to ever ask my opinion,he sent a questionnaire to all his constituents.

He even said "my job as your congressman is not to vote my conscience but to vote your conscience"

#15 hornet

Don't sweat it,the guardian has been relegated to the hall of irrelevance.

I never post this much - but between Rall on Hannity and Colmes, this video and that line (thanks, Hornet) I think I am gonna need a drink to stop yelling at the TV people and the computer! Its only 10... lets see whats in the cabinet.

I've sent the links to all of my friends in the MSM and none of them will touch it. Revealing, no?

It’s a little bit weird that this interview wasn’t aired in USA, France, or anywhere...

Why should someone in France regard that as weird?

Isn't France (along with Germany) the place where it is popularly held that the US was behind 9/11 as well as the downing of TWA 800?

It may be "weird" to the extent that being subjected to a systematic disinformation campaign feels "weird."

i've been screaming the same thing for weeks!

LOL!! The more time goes by, the crazier the world gets!
Remember wathcing Little House on the Prarie? I mean Nellie was a snot- but right was right, and wrong was wrong.

I hear all the time, people claiming that the Jews own all the media. HUH? Yeah- that's why Arafat is a hero and peacemaker? That's why the French can do no wrong? And Israel's greatest ally is the US- and we are the great "Satan"

UPSIDE DOWN!

Only thing good on a FROG, are the legs...great sauteed in butter with scallions, and a dash of sherry..ok a lot of sherry. Toss in some cranberries, render down...serve with the rendering of sherry and cranberry, lavishly poured over the frog legs. Oh and a great white wine, not to interfere with the delicacy of the sauteed frog legs.

Check that, one other use for Frogs...they eat flies.

That's it folks, other then that they are despised vile, fucking crepe's, that shoot unarmed civilians...and usually in the back.

Anyone watch Hardball tonight?

Did he mention me? blow me kisses or anyhting??

COlonel DUBOIS is admitting that they fired on the crowd.
"nous avons etait amener a tirer"
we were made to fire
then he says that they were returning fire!
THe swiss are sending a team to investigate.

Were the french snipers firing from the windows of their hotel rooms onto the crowd?

Whatever happened the french will do what they do best-
sweep it under the carpet and carry on promoting a Islamic sharia state in Cote d'ivoire in return from some Islamic oil and armament contracts like they did in Iraq.

USA and Israel are demonized while the rea demons are made heroes. This video will air on BBC/CNN/CBS/CBC yes??

Some obvious notes:

It's just one Real Media video. The first link opens the movie at 00:09:54 and ends at 00:13:10 then the second link starts the same video at 00:07:40 and, again, ends at 00:13:10. So if you just go to the second link you see the whole segment.

And, of course the french fired on the savages! They were out there marching and chanting without burning the Israeli flag or cursing the evil Bu$Hitler. Clearly an imminent threat.

#26 Hornet
"This video will air on BBC/CNN/CBS/CBC yes??"

Non! Mais, certainment NON!
Zut! Alors!

I'm listening to the first part. It sounds like every excuse he's making about the context would be doubly true in Israel. Here's my rough transcription/translation:

Lady (L): Colonel Gerard Dubois, good evening.

Colonel Gerard Dubois (C): Good evening.

L: Colonel, the French army, did it fire on the crowd that evening, yes or no?

C: Listen, I would like to react, and would thank for the chance to react to these grave accusations that come from an anonymous witness, who, even well placed, may have had only a partial view of the situation -

L: We had several witnesses precisely, several witness that agreed on what they witnessed.

C: Yes, well, it should be known among those killed and wounded in the crowd, these imputed unfortunates, there were people firing, people throwing stones, young patriots who were armed - [some words I missed] there was also a movement of panic in the crowd that may have provoked woundings or even deaths. With this accident at the Hotel Ivoire, there was a patrol of the Ivoirian security force, that was [something] and poorly organized and [something]... all of that said to put this into some context. [ed. I wonder what he feels about context in Israel]

L: But all that to say that the Army fired.

C: Well, we did end up being brought to fire, but after [somehting] and we had fired to warn [this may mean warning shots] - these were firing in legitimate defense and to riposte to those firing on us. And for, the protection of the [something] that we have to it forced us to riposte [to the attackers].

L: Colonel, there is firing in [something - summation?] - that is to say, firing in the air - and that is not exactly the same thing as firing into the crowd. How do you explain that an army of professionals fire into a crowd that is composed of civilians, of women, that are of an important number? Was it panic?

C: So, uh, there was a phenomenon of panic in the crowd. But the [inaudible]

L: No, from the side of the soldiers, from the soldiers...

C: Yes, yes, I understood. These soldiers, I'd like to react to what your witness said about the anger of the soldiers that arrived at six am at the Hotel Ivoire, like it was said, and these demonstrations [and something] at the Hotel Ivoire took place at the end of the afternoon. And for the whole day, with [a lot of cool], a mastery, an exceptional restraint, did not, actually, express their rage. While you say they fired into the crowd, what was this crowd of thousands - tens of thousands - of demonstrators [composed of]? There weren't just women and children - [ed. Makes you think of somewhere else?] - and I affirm that in the crowd there were armed men.

L: Colonel, will there be an investigation?

C: France has never - France has always contributed to bringing the [something] of the witnesses and whereas we would be able to verify [their account of] this sad affair...

L: Gerard Dubois, thank you, thank you for these precisions. [She begins to discuss a Swiss inspector general going to find out why Swiss embassy personnel didn't help Swiss people escape Cote d'Ivoire.]

--End of video 1.

The second video discusses that the witness is neither French nor Ivoirien - he speaks French with a slightly Germanic accent I would guess. One of the casualties was a pregnant woman. The witness says that the crowd was not armed. It shows some of the video that was on LGF with the crazy crowd scenes from the other day. He discusses how some floors higher up in the Hotel Ivoire were used by French snipers. The video then continues with the first part.

Now I know why the US didn't want the French to have any part in the peacekeeping of Iraq.

The reason why you dont hear pitched shrieking about French postcolonial intervention is because THAT IS THE JOB OF THE FRENCH!
Who has categorically pitched a fit whenever military action is in play.........THE FRENCH! n'est pas?

It’s a little bit weird that this interview wasn’t aired in USA, France, or anywhere...

When an American soldier shoot someone, it’s on the whole planet in a few minutes.

LOL ... this is easy to comprehend. People expect better of the USA and are seeking to defame our forces out of jealousy envy and other darker emotions.

When the French shoot someone ... it isn't NEWS. ... which says alot about what the World thinks about France hmm?

FYI: soldiers shooting at an unrulely croud can be justified because a mob isn't "unarmed". It is similar to a weak small man shooting at a group of gangbangers who lift weights and carry knives.

(I am not defending the French here just pointing out a reality of what all police and soldiers face when confronting a mob.)

OT

UN: 150 Sex Abuse Charges in Congo Peacekeeping

UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - The United Nations is investigating about 150 allegations of sexual abuse by U.N. civilian staff and soldiers in the Congo, some of them recorded on videotape, a senior U.N. official said on Monday.

The accusations include pedophilia, rape and prostitution, said Jane Holl Lute, an assistant secretary-general in the peacekeeping department.

Clearly, the French have passed the Global Test and were fully qualified to shoot those civilians; besides, how dare those pesky upstart protesters get in the way of France's atonement for their share of the Colonialism which plagues Africa up to this day. And don't they understand that those 15000-20000 French citizens who control the majority of the economy there, and the fact that the vast majority of the foreign investment capital is French, have nothing to do with France's purely noble motives for being there.

While I have not seen the film, I don't much care that some troops may have killed some innocents if the immediate situation warranted the use of force. But I do care that the Euro media elites are brainwashing the rest of Eurabia. BBC still has run nary a word on the UN Scandal, now this, etc, etc. Pathetic.

# 34

But ... but ...

ABU GHRAIB!!

Okay, I speak French and I've translated parts of the clips. For the interview with the witness, I've translated the entire interview:

In video 1:

The French colonel, Gerard Dubois, said there were armed people in the crowd, as well as "misbehaving" Ivory Coast soldiers in the crowd. He says the French soldiers first fired warning shots and then fired "in self-defense" at people in the crowd. He insists that in the crowd of thousands, there weren't just women and children, there were armed men present.

In video 2:

Interview with a witness who is described as being neither French or Ivorian, who said that French soldiers fired into the crowd, then a replay of the interview with Col. Dubois.

Witness: I am on the 20th floor of the main tower (Hotel Ivoire, Abidjan) and overlooking what transpired.

Interviewer: So you see everything.

Witness: Absolutely. It isn't heresay. I saw it with my own eyes.

Interviewer: Who fires?

Witness: The French. The population isn't armed. The people who are mostly between 14 and 18 years old aren't armed. The French fired because the tension mounted as the "patriots" pushed back barbed wire and they pulled on the barbed wire and advanced.

Also, unfortunately, it was the same marine infantry division they were advancing towards, who had lost 9 members, and who were angry. So among the protestors there was a woman who had her head torn off.

Interviewer: We also learned from our witness that 350 soldiers had entered the hotel at 6am the same day.

Witness: We discovered later that on the sixth floor of the building there were snipers in the rooms, and we found spent shell casings there. Therefore, they also had fired. We also found an identity card from a French soldier, who had lost it (insert shot of ID card is shown).

So the French can kill innocent Africans, and Chirac can say that "Africans are naturally happy" (from no-pasaran) but they make a hero out of cop-killer Mumia and call Americans racist?

I import RSS feeds from every major news organization you can think of both domestic and international, and nobody is giving this story any attention at all. It is amazing. #4 Spiney Norman might be onto something with his comments about multilateral bullets.

The news only seems to notice attrocities if the bullets were made by Winchester or IMI.

But... But.... But....

There was a NBA basketball brawl! Thats more important then anything else! Some multi-millionaire game player might miss out of a million or two.... And Scott Peterson! Didn't he have an itch on his left buttcheek the other day he had to scratch? This is important news!

Surely you cannot equalate the deliberate shooting of a crowd of innocent african blacks by the holy french army with this! I mean get your priorities right!

-- The MSM

#33 Redneck_Dragon

FYI: soldiers shooting at an unrulely croud can be justified because a mob isn't "unarmed". It is similar to a weak small man shooting at a group of gangbangers who lift weights and carry knives.

(I am not defending the French here just pointing out a reality of what all police and soldiers face when confronting a mob.)

So Israeli soldiers facing a mob throwing rocks, molotov-cocktails and with actual terrorists armed insurgent thrown in the mix, you would think they would be "justified" in firing - at least at the ones who are actually shooting, throwing firebombs, preparing IEDs..?

Not according to the Fwench - or most of the world, for that matter.

Ivory and ebony... vive la France!

The biggest outrage in all of this awful incident is that the UN and the French would rather sweep it under the rug, instead of finding out what went so terribly wrong.

Perhaps (and I think it likely, but don't know for sure) the French troops were at fault. Perhaps their commanders put them in an impossible position. Perhaps there really were people in the crowd shooting at them. A whole lot of "perhapses."

Unless the UN and French will move ahead with a public investigation, the world will never know what really happened. And those responsible will not be identified or (I hope) punished. And there won't be any lessons learned to prevent a tragedy like this from recurring all too soon.

DRK

Just remember:

It's Bush's fault (sarcasm)

#29 Ariel

I'm listening to the first part. It sounds like every excuse he's making about the context would be doubly true in Israel.

My French is very rusty, but I drew the same conclusion. What a hypocrite.

What can we expect from the French? There were angry women and children carrying signs which insulted Chirac. At least the French didn't cut off their heads.

firewall won't let me view stupid websites

nominated for "rotating titles" ...

Does anyone know if Fox News showed the footage?

It seems like Fox is becoming part of the liberal media.

Damn right that crowd was threatening! They were mooning French soldiers!

My God, if the crowd was unruly but unarmed, haven't they ever heard of teargas? Plus, once again, if you view the video, none of the soldiers look particularly worried.

Does anyone in the interviews mention the two french soldiers you see on the ground near the tanks shooting at the crowd? Why not?

...yes...interesting..no coverage...

...how hard is it to download mpeg file?

MSM p'rducers R dummmm

:P

When an American soldier shoot someone, it’s on the whole planet in a few minutes.

And he's depicted as a Nazi in cartoons.

[The "pig soldier" is saying: "Now he's dead!",
the person in black playing dead is labeled "Arab street",
the person in pink is labeled "official Arab regimes"]

#Ariel

With this accident at the Hotel Ivoire, there was a patrol of the Ivoirian security force, that was [something] and poorly organized and [something]...

He says that a patrol of the regular Ivorian Army protecting the Hotel Ivoire was also attacked and overrun by the same hostile mob and that one Ivorian soldier was killed.

As much as I despise how Chirac is protecting the muslim rebels and how the UN imposed negociations with them to Gbagbo, it is not unlikely at all that armed men where hidden in the crowd and shooting.

You also have to keep in mind that during the days of those "demonstrations" angry mobs were looting, lynching and raping everything remotely "white" in Abidjan, not only french but anything foreign.
Those soldiers had to protect the civilians waiting to be evacuated.

Though how hypocritical to always blame Tsahal when they face palis mobs throwing stones , molotov or hidden snipers taking chances to shoot anytime they can.

One of the hardest lessons of history is that soldiers, while working as soldiers, make poor policemen. Soldiers are trained to exert maximum force; policemen to dole out force with teaspoons only as needed. (That said, ex-soldiers make great cops)

July 7th, 1863, there were riots over the draft in New York City-- the colored orphanage was burned and many African-American children killed by rampaging white, largely Irish-American mobs. A group of soldiers who two days earlier had sat at the top of Seminary Ridge and killed thousands in Pickett's charge at Gettysburg was called into lower Broadway (near the WTC) to restore order. They did what they knew how to do. They stood as the mob advanced, kneeled, raised their rifles and fired with deadly accuracy--killing several hundred with a few volleys.

Everybody was appalled. Lincoln, while he could not back down on the draft, quietly arranged for upstate New York--which was filled with abolitionists and which bled white as much as South Carolina -- to be used to help fill the City draft quota.

We live in a cartoon world filled with cartoon minds.

The losers and nabobs of Europe and Arabia are a bunch of "Jacks" that need a "Giant" to hate. Thats us.

Everyone else is good. When one of "their own" does wrong, that gets a pass.

I just saw the video of the French soldiers gunning down Ivorian protesters. You can download the file in Windows Media Player format here where Aaron at the FreeWill blog has kindly converted those 2 bulky 200 megabyte mpeg files into one manageable 14.5 meg .wmv file.

At no point were the French soldiers in danger from this mob of people.

The French are despicable.

#11 Totally Sirius

I'd post a link but my firewall won't let me view stupid websites.

Got a link for that firewall? ;-)

Re: #27
If you remove the start and end times from the URL, you can view the entire 21 minutes:
[Link: real.xobix.ch...]

#36 speaking of abu ghraib, the WSJ had a multi-page spread updating everyone on what is going on. Oh, and they needed to include several large photos on the page showing some of the incidents.

I'm still wondering where the multi-page spread on the torture chambers and ammo dumps uncovered by Marines in Fallujah are. And, where are the photos/videos of terrorists feigning death/surrender only to open fire on Marines. /bitter at the duplicitious standards in MSM

I'm still waiting for the UN Gerneral Assembly to call an emergency session in order to condemn Israel for the actions of French soldiers in the Ivory Coast.

I want to see this plastered on the front page of every news web site and paper. I watched the video a couple days ago and these people weren't even as menacing as the Democrats that protested Bush in New York. In fact, a large part of the time they were singing... unarmed!

This is utter bullshit.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: fuck the French. I mean fuck them to pieces. I am so sick of their elitist double-standard babbling I could retch.

I only wish the Islamist wackos were so friendly - our problems would be over. Frankly, if so, there wouldn't be a problem. What's the worst they could do, sing out of tune?

Oh, and did I mention fuck the French?

El #51,

Though how hypocritical to always blame Tsahal when they face palis mobs throwing stones , molotov or hidden snipers taking chances to shoot anytime they can.

That was my point. It's hard to judge whether the crowd was dangerous - certainly it was no more dangerous than the situation Israel faces on a daily basis. And Israel generally uses rubber bullets against a mob first - not real bullets. Of course, if there were real shooters in the crowd, I can't disagree with the French choice to fire back - I can only disagree with the hypocrisy vis-a-vis Israel.

The Security Council resolution demands that both government and rebel officials observe the terms of a May 2003 cease-fire agreement. The council also issued a stern warning to Ivory Coast to "stop all radio and television broadcasting inciting hatred, intolerance and violence."

French and U.N. officials say government media outlets have been fueling anti-French sentiments in the country in recent weeks. Juan Mendez, the top U.N. adviser on the prevention of genocide, suggested Monday that Ivory Coast officials could face prosecution by the International Criminal Court if the government fails to halt such hate speech.

But al-Jazeera broadcasting hate speech against America is ok. PA Television broadcasting antisemitic hate speech gets not a word of protest.

I guess you have to be French to understand the Security Council.

UN out of US. Paris would be a good choice, as both are similarly filthy.

OK - so how is this info to be passed around then? If the news media won't cover it, how can it get out to everyone else?

-ron

The French are Eurabians...they are only half-infidel. Thus barbarism is accepted as part of their nature.

It's the global double standard at work.

As for that absurd Kerry video, that looks like an Al-Jazeera production.

Did he film that in a cave?

Really weird.

I expect him to be walking around in Osama garb traipsing thru phony scenery soon.

Never in history has a candidate gotten more favorable coverage that Baby Kerry, and he still whines. What a dick.

It’s a little bit weird that this interview wasn’t aired in USA, France, or anywhere...

When an American soldier shoot someone, it’s on the whole planet in a few minutes.

panties on the heads of terrorists (Michael Moore's "Minute men") - still worse.

Why report on the Ivory Coast when you can pretend the election in the US isn't over yet?

[Link: www.nypost.com...] - best line in a op-ed in the last few weeks:

Everywhere they go the Marines find mosques converted by the terrorists into snipers' nests, headquarters buildings and arsenals. Houses of worship — theoretically untouchable under the rules of war — are routinely exploited by the enemy.

In the convoluted and corrupt interpretation of the Koran which these criminals use to justify their spree of murder and rapine, mosques have no more value or significance than their existence and the respect which they are usually accorded by Westerners. Muhammad would be livid at the corruption introduced into his houses of worship.

For the terrorists, the Iraqi people and for millions of devout Muslims, a mosque is fast becoming a Temple of Doom. With any luck the Marines are well on their way to putting a stop to this abuse.

You would think the Fwench would want these videos shown everywhere. It's the first evidence that they actually used their weapons in combat rather than to lay them down as a sign of surrender!

Today's question is, "How many Fwenchmen does it take to defend Paris?"

The answer is, "No one knows, because it has never happened!"

Because I want everyone to give the Marine the benefit of the the doubt, I have to try to do the same for these French troops.

But deep inside, I must admit, I think they shot at the crowd in an act of cowardice and hate.

For those who do not have Realplayer, I suggest Real Alternative...plays realplayer files but without all the added crap.

I think the last French "military victory" before this was when they sank The Rainbow Warrior in '85.

Of course, they used frogmen for that attack...

71 Yankee.....

I thought frogmen is what all french troops were called.......

so what's different?

That was a well-prepared sniper's nest in the video, it took some time and training to set up. The little drawing in the video is what is known as a "range card", it shows the distances to various points in the field of fire so the sniper can compensate for the drop of the bullet due to gravity.

I can only think of two reasons why military snipers would have been assigned to take up such a position: To support French troops that would be moving into the crowd, or assassination.

In one of the first video sections the crowd is carrying a mock(?) casket that says "Chirak Assassin". This video is worth a pile of gold because we should use it as leverage the next time that two bit Chirac points his finger at us. It seems the French can't escape the commitments of their former empire, and only underscores the fact that in the third world life is cheap and rules are different. Anti-PC but true, and its why all who live in the West should cherish so dearly the freedoms our countries have earned. Of course our MSM is 110% PC and won't air anything to besmirch the wonderful sensitive Europeans.

Where's Michael Moore? Where is the Left?