Dammit! I Tivoed it yesterday and haven't had the chance to see it yet. Now I guess there's nothing to see.

Last night I watched the Fox news hoping to see Eurabia and was disappointed that it was not on.

Wow. Maybe they got a bomb threat or something. Because Fox does not strike me as easily intimidated.

um, charles - i think it should be comment #113, not #125 ..

write them--i did--they embarassed those of us who told friends to watch this--after weeks of promoting the 4 parter as "eurabia" they did show one of hannigan's pieces with no LEADIN for the package--kind of slipped it in--its outrageous--their new logo should be "fair and scared"

Please don't let Fox be intimidated by CAIR et al. I wonder if there is a way to email them and ask for an explanation?

It came on at the end of the hour. It was a bit with Steve Harrigan showing muslims from Morocco trying to get into Spain. They said they were going to air Part 2 tonight.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Their website claims part 2 of "Eurabia" is this evening...

This national fear of "possibly offending" a person or a group has got to end. If the "offended" group doesn't like the way they look in the harsh light of truth, than I suggest that they take that to heart and make changes rather than try to scare people away from revealing their problems.

Pardon this repeat of post on other thread, but now that this story finally has it own thread:

Whether it was yanked because of threats of litigation or perhaps even violence, or the spectre of incitement to violence, the bottom line is that the FOX News management allowed themselves to abdicate their 1st Amendment right, and by extension, the 1st Amendment rights of the viewing public.

A professional journalist who is a close relative of mine tells me that FOX News has unwittingly set themselves up by first producing the series and then by heavily advertising its scheduled broadcast. They have in effect become the news. Professional journalists know that this is the worst case scenario. Cub reporters learn early on in their careers that becoming the news is their death knell if they have any meaningful career ambitions as a journalism professional. For an entire news organization like FOX News to become the news is a momentous event indeed. This episode may even exceed in importance that other newsmaking event, the CBS Rathergate fiasco.

Since the MSM can't help compromising their professional journalism ethic, it is up to the bloggers to now report the news. So here goes:

To FOX News:

Who made the decision to pull the Eurabia segment?
What drove the decision?
When was the decision made?
Where was it made? FOX News headquarters?
Why was it pulled?
Did FOX News receive threats of violence?
Were there any Islamic extremist threats?
Were lawyers from CAIR involved?
Don't you feel that abdicating your 1st Amendment rights so easily is an afront to the profession?
Were you pressured by the White House?
What about the 1st Amendment rights of your viewers?
How can the public now trust the FOX News organization to be a champion of the 1st Amendment?
Did advertising sponsors threaten you?
Was the State Department involved?
Were you contacted by the CIA with warnings of violence from terrorist organizations that they monitor if the segment was aired?
Is the 1st Amendment dead?

I waited and waited and finally at 7:45 they slipped it in. Lasted at the most 5 minutes. It looked like the Morroccans wanted Harrigan out of the boat ASAP.

They showed the Spanish government whacking these illegals with clubs when they land in Spain. How does that deter them?

How about using guns and barbed wire?

Very disappointed about this. So much hype and then nothing.

I saw it. Yeah it was on late in the show, around 7:45 and it was not terribly long but it aired in NYC. They're still promoing the Sweden segment, or at least they were up until I left this morning to go get eggs at the anabaptist market. (And was stopped in some kind of State Trooper roadblock where they checked each car on the road.)

I'm convinced that Fox merely did so in order to prepare for Charles' aforesaid legal onslaught once they do air the program. Knowing Fox, they will air "Eurabia".

---

Personally, I think Fox isn't the only one who'll be hearing from les avocats. After all, someone else may have "invented" the term "Eurabia", but our very own Colt is the one with the franchise on its' most common expression:

Eurabian Times Blog

If I were Steve Harrigan, it's not CAIR's solicitors I'd be afraid of: it's Colt's franchise infringement team he should be worried about.

/ sarcasm off

At CAIR they have opened the crates of (champaign) grape juice, and are high fiving. Whenever the truth is to be shown on TV about islam, the lawyers pounce and THREATEN/THREATEN to sue, and have won hands. Will FOX rethink about CAVING IN and air Eurabia at a later date?

It came on at the end of the hour. It was a bit with Steve Harrigan showing muslims from Morocco trying to get into Spain. They said they were going to air Part 2 tonight.

The trailer for Eurabia is longer than the Moroccan floater segment that was aired. The series is supposed to be four 15-minute segments.

Not hands, should be hands down

Charles, fix the link -- it goes to comment 125, instead of the correct one, 113.

Not really OT at all
"Planet of the Lice" by Yashiko Sagamori
We are removing the Ten Commandments from all public places. More and more municipalities outlaw public performance of Christmas songs. More and more
municipalities outlaw public display of the nativity scene. No, I am not a Christian. But somehow, I feel that as long as Christians in this formerly Christian country are free to openly celebrate Christmas and Easter, I will be free to openly celebrate Hanukah and Passover. Ramadan is a totally different matter, for it is inevitably Islam that fills the vacuum left by the ongoing erosion of Christian traditions. Thanks to the lice, 9/11, instead of causing the United States to outlaw Islam within its borders, resulted in its further proliferation. They assure us that Islam is an Abrahamic faith, a monotheistic religion. Folks, Abraham wouldn't dream up such an abomination even in an acid-induced nightmare. Islam has nothing to do with Abraham or Judaism. If Muslims believe they worship the same God as Jews do, why aren't Jews allowed to Mecca? And since they worship something entirely different, what does it matter to me whether they are monotheists of polytheists? The only thing that does matter is that forcing every human being on the planet to accept the ignorant beliefs of the most backward people in the world constitutes the very core, the very essence of Islam. Islam is imperialism of the primitive.

read it all

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The Sweden segment would be about the city of Malmo, I'd guess. Some parts of the city are no-go zones because of Islamists.

The small piece they showed last nite is the same as is available on their website as a clip.

An LGF reader? We've been bitching about this since 7:45 pm last night ...

And, yes, it's obvious that they yanked it. It was supposed to be four 15 minute installments over four nights. The first installment ran from 7:43 to 7:45.

I was EXTREMELY disappointed about what ultimately ended up as the Harrigan 'Eurabia' special report.

I was going to withold judgement until I had seen the other parts.

But now I really think we LGFers should bury Steve Harrigan in supportive emails. Who knows what that will do?

showharrigan@foxnews.com

Thank you Charles...FINALLY.

I was anticipating this thread.

I would very much like this unnamed source to post the details as to who messed with them, so that some sort of legal action can be tossed back at them for messing with our constitutional rights. My guess is the Shriners, highschool chess club, dan rather?

Why could we cair?

Oh yeah, you can also call Fox @ 212-301-3000.

It was towards the end, re Spain, and if you blinked, you missed it. Before the segment, they mentioned Spain, but never the word 'Eurabia'. I called, and the guy was really nice, and admitted that it was pulled..I also emailed 2 different divisions of Fox...nada in return, and this is the email I got from the reporter...uh, an assistant:

Steve Harrigan's Eurabia series is in 4 parts this week. Part 2 on Sweden airs tonight during the FOX Report at 7 pm ET. I will be posting each part as it airs on Steve's blog, so if you miss one you can check back here.

Thanks for writing and tuning in!

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Kathleen
FOXNews.com Blog Producer

(apparently 'Kathleen' has no surname)

I smell a rat of NY size in this one...and at the risk of posting it too often, here is the Anti-CAIR site.

The question isn't did they yank it. It was supposed to be on. It wasn't. So they did yank it. The only question is why.

Many speculate they bowed to some sort of pressure. And we have good reason to suspect that, given the pressure put on other institutions that show anything critical of the RoP. But until we know, it is speculation.

Perhaps there was a fact or point in the story they hadn't fully double checked. If one tiny thing could be proven to be less than true, many people would focus on that and dismiss the entire thing.

they just did a promo for part 2 tonight-- while on the show they are showing truncated segments without the proper identifying LEADIN for the package--they su-uk!!

The response I received to my e-mail to Fox was ridiculous, like we were discussing two different issues.

it was sort of like a SNL skit.

i wonder--did the threats come from the arabs or the europeans?--just askin'

There's a transcript service called "TV Eyes," of which my company is a subscriber.

It only allows to grab 2 minutes at a time, for "fair use" rules (which is just under the length of Harrigan's segment), and is a bit sloppy.

But here's the transcript they grabbed (pieced together after a couple searches), starting at about 7:43 pm:

FNC 11/23/04 19:43:12: ...shepard: it's a tough trip across the sea, but until recently, spanish border patrols did not do much to stop them. the attacks of 3/11 in madrid changed all of that in a fox report now from steve harrigan. >> on this side of the ocean, the bodies are anonymous, riding in thetial owes, the fortunate ones dragged out for a hasty burial. they are africans trying to make it to europe, betting their lives on a nine-mile ride, thousands losing that bet each year. spain used to be an open door for illegal immigrants. the sticks and stones of frustrated border guards little effect against the rising tide of human traffic. an estimated 1/4 of all smuggled innocents to europe came through the southern coast of spain, most setting off from morocco, but all that changed on 3/11. most of the terrorists who killed 190 people on madrid trains last march were moroccans. suddenly the immigrant problem was a security problem. under pressure at home and from other european nations, rubber batons were replaced by speedboats. success so far is limited. the numbers are down here by 50%, he says, but the smugglers are just moving to other parts of the coast. this is africa. that's europe. it's just nine miles away. but in between, some of the most dangerous currents in the world. now, some people here are so desperate that they are ready to pay $1,000 a head just to get across. they will take their chances on anything that floats. 75 people from this moroccan village drowned on the trip last month. when we walked up to families, they started to cry. this man lost 21 relatives. with no electricity, jobs, education, running water, there is nothing to do but wait, for someone, somehow to help get them out. these people are so desperate, they are ready to die, he says. it's just a question of who gets here first, the smugglers or the terrorists. more often, it is the terrorists who are getting there first. it was a moroccan who murdered filmmaker theo van gogh in the netherlands this month. skirmishes also in spain on which may eventually become a pan-european battle fueled by the failure to integrate a new legal muslim population. in morocco, steve harrigan, fox news..

FOX - you are about to become a laughing stock similar to Rather.

NY Nana, that's the exact e-mail I got. They're not reading the e-mails, obviously.

Since c.a.i.r. nipped Imus at MSNBC for his and a companion's broadcast remarks the other day re "filthy palis" and got a partical apology in writing, I don't doubt that nefarious orgnaisation is onto FOX. Next to Bush, I think FOX is the most hated object by religious and litigious Muslims.

What I would like to know is this: If FOX could be so easily intimidated from running a story called "Eurabia", why in the world have they still not apologized for that lying "Israel-is-behind-9.11" Cameron/Hume story they ran so long ago, that is still circulating the internet on Arab and anti-Semitic sites?

Oy, I just went into bitch-mode and replied to that e-mail. I'm sure I'll get the same stupid, perky (I hate perky) response.

Did Fox originally promote Eurabia as four one-hour-long shows?

HULUGU, probably came from CAIR.

well here's a conspiracy theory...maybe someone in the Bush Administration had something to do with it too. If it was going to upset Muslims or who knows, even the Saudis, maybe they interjected.

#44 Bad Penny

Four 15 minute segments over 4 nights (as previously mentioned).

#40 -- ploome hineni: MSNBC's Apology.

Guess emails can be sent to Bill OReily for an on air discussion about what went on?

Whatever the deal was on WHY they pulled it, if anyone is calling or writing them today, how about we put in a request that FOX makes the ENTIRE Eurabia segment available on their website?

Since they have already had to cull footage to get it down to 1 hour total (and have now apparently culled it down to 6 minutes in total), it is likely they have a lot MORE footage that they were not able to fit into even that originally planned HOUR.

May as well help them find a way to make this work and get the word out, huh?

My my, CAIR has been very busy as of late (I'd bet money they are behind this)

A little background on how this Eurabia series came into being:

Steve was offered a month-long R&R in Paris from his gig in Iraq. Rather than sit around the pool sipping cocktails, somebody convinces FOX News to greenlight a piece on "Eurabia". So the crew does what they do while on their R&R and they come up with a can full of enough material to edit into an an hour of air in convenient 15-minute chunks. The can goes to New York and Steve and his crew go back to Baghdad. FOX News programming slots the series with the FOX Report and the marketing folks begin the hype.

The segment is queued up for Tuesday's broadcast and then somewhere along the foodchain word comes down to pull it.

It is inconceivable that Steve, his producer and the film crew would spend a month in Europe on the FOX dime and come back with only 8 minutes of air in the can.

I JUST spoke with someone at FOX - she seemed more than a receptionist, but less than a reporter. At first she tried to tell me that what we saw was what we were supposed to see (right!) I wouldn't by it, and told her that the blogs (specifically LGF0 are all over this, and that FOX must answer the question (maybe on their site) as WHAT HAPPENED (what was the pressure, etc).

She put me on hold, again, and then came back saying that they are looking into the issue, and will say something about it if they get more complaints.

So, BLAST THEM at 212-301-3000

#30 Renna

Amen

This looks like a 'rush to judgement' people. If Fox News yanked the series due to pressure from someone, then fry them. But, if there was a last minute question about accuracy or something, we should applaud them for rising above the 'CBS mentality'.

I'm patient enough to wait and see what the final determination is, just as I didn't believe the first spin I watched on the Sites video.

Just a thought

they did show the heroic arabs of morocco without a pot to piss in or eat in before thinkin'--go west young umma man--the morrocs had nothing-zip-nada-one guy lost 23 family members as floaters and they're still compelled to leave in order to survive--maybe someone at state said this will totally diss the moroccans lay off--marc ginsburg--former ambassador to morocco is one of fox's employed talkin' heads--dollars to dinars he passed a message to them to TONE IT DOWN--morocco being an ally in the wot and all that--i believe this may have played a part in it--don't diss the moroccs by showing their economy produces sand and cous cous--also king of spain at the bush ranch today--the spanish border guards with the truncheons looked foolish and brutal--man--i got as many conspiracy theories as a paleo moonbat--heh heh

I was pretty disappointed to have the Eurabia part 1 portion severely truncated. Wonder if they just had to fit in more stuff about Dan Rather and the portion tonight will be normal length?

#43 zulubaby
I think that this time phone calls are gonna be the only way to get a real response.
Anyone in New York available to go in person?

#12 Those are good questions - make for a nice long phone call to FOX, huh? ;o)

A prediction on the answers:
I don't know
I don't know
I don't know
I don't know
I don't know
etc...

It may be that FOX is waiting to make sure the authors and producers are not in the middle east, Kidnapping and a gruesome death are not out of the question when you critisize the Islamoids

You can watch the segment on the FOX website.

#40, I see somebody already posted the apology. It was Imus and one of his buddies kvetching about the Palestinians, said they were filthy and lived in squallor, etc. Got c.a.i.r. enraged. If I could get to the site where I read the transcript I would post it but that site is down right now. Maybe later.

#55 Corpsman Mom

But, if there was a last minute question about accuracy or something, we should applaud them for rising above the 'CBS mentality'.

C'mon! They don't heavily advertise something until all the i's are dotted and t's crossed.

Besides which, they aren't exactly models of caution and restraint with all of their stupid "Fox News Alert"s ...

They caved.

Well this explains a bit. I kept asking myself "how on Earth did I miss it?" I'm all set to see part 2 tonight. Perhaps I'd better have the VCR ready to record it.

#55

If the reason they yanked it was because of a factual flaw in the story, I don't get why they wouldnt just announce something like, "The special, Eurabia, we had planned for this evening will be postponed until ___. We apologize for the delay."

#61 SeanII
Is it a 15 minute segment Sean, or is it just that little 2 minute snippet?

new fox news logo--"FEH AND SCARED"

#9 dee

It came on at the end of the hour. It was a bit with Steve Harrigan showing muslims from Morocco trying to get into Spain. They said they were going to air Part 2 tonight.

Exactly. Was that it? I think that was the safe content they could air to avoid a CAIR complaint knifed into someone's chest.

Of course Fox pulled it. What did you expect? After the incredible, totally unethical bias they showed during the campaign, acting as a 527 to help chip Bushitler, they have to, somehow, salvage what's left of their credibility. Especially with the fierce competition they're getting from totally unbiased and very ethical CBS.

I just spoke to a real person at Fox News---

She told me that she "was told to say that the segment already aired"...

I asked if she was referring to the two minute segment that aired during the Fox Report and she said yes---

I told her that I was informed last night that the segment was pulled---

Someone in the background (male) kept telling her what to say-

Again, she told me, that she "was told" to say that the segment already aired-

We are being hosed--- I don't know why Fox needed someone there to coach the person who answered the phones--

The number for Fox News in Manhattan 1 (212) 301-3000

When a "live" person answers ...DO NOT let them transfer you to a voicemail.

Mr. Pol ---

How's Caton doing--- I think of him and his family often.

#72 fiery celt

I was talking to him about an hour ago. If his wife could find a job, everything would be perfect.

monkeyweather,

Disregard then, I could not play it but assumed (naive hope I guess) that it was the whole segment.

why are people making excuses for this--one media standard please--they promoted 15 minute segment of "Eurabia" and slipped in 3 minute truncated piece with no segment leadin--it was whack--no explanation--no wham bam thank you mam graphics--it was practically ...soviet.. in its non personess..ya know ..the portrait of the "dear leader" has been moved down the hall--why are we reduced to reading media tea leaves--they should be very embarassed--but its thanksgiving and it will get a pass unless we put pressure on them

Hi, I wanted to call about a show that was on called Eurabia.

A show called Eurabia?

(crickets)

Yes ma'am, Eurabia. It was supposed to be on longer than 2 minutes.

(crickets)

A show called Eurabia (sounding like there was no such show)…let me transfer you to our news dept.

All I could do was leave a message this time.

#54

I just called and here is what I got:

1) A woman answered, and she tried to pass it off as if nothing was wrong, and when I pressed her, she said again that "it was airing for 4 nights" and that's what "the producer told me."

2) She transferred me to a male employee, who also acted clueless. He acted like he didn't know what I was talking about.

3) He transferred me to a third woman, and as soon as I uttered the words, "I have a question about your special, Eurabia," she said, "please hold." And there you have it, put on hold before I could make another peep.

4) This "hold" transferred me to a voice mail system, where I left a message.

If there was any pressure on FOX, my guess would be it came from the Bush administration, possibly at the request of the EU.

I think the governments would see more downside to this news than CAIR would and they also have far more clout.

Better e-mail addresses for Harrigan and ? the producer of Eurabia

jay.wallace@foxnews.com
steve.harrigan@foxnews.com

What the hell is wrong with Fox News? I'm starting to get the impression that USA is not so much better than Europe after all.

gawd--the promos they are running are stronger than the pieces--now they say they will show more of the islamic invasion of europe in a fox magazine segment--if they were as low key as aaron brown well ok--but they are in your face with this--its all hat-no cattle--O'relly should do a segment on his own channel's feckless news division

#71 fiery celt

Thats their story and they are sticking to it!! However it seems that there is something amiss.
Duh maybe me just stupid?

Anyone called to Hammer Hannity on this yet?

Here someone has to mention Jean Raspail's novel "The Camp
of the Saints". This prescient book from 1973 foretold the
invasion of the boat people into Southern Europe. The scenes
in the "Eurabia" video available on the Fox Report website link are striking.

Screw Fox.

I'm contacting the other MSMs to let them know what's going on.

"Fair and Balanced, but retracting Hume's Unafraid"

Sadly, Britt Hume as reason to be afraid---He knows first hand the legititimacy od any death threats or that of bodily harm---

Sandy Hume
Journalist

On Sunday, February 22nd, 1998, Sandy Hume, the 28-year-old son of journalist Britt Hume, was reportedly found dead in his Arlington, Virginia home. Aside from the statement that this was an "apparent" suicide, there remains in place a total media blackout on this story, possibly out of concern that the actual facts will not withstand public scrutiny. Indeed, it was reported in Associated Press that the Arlington Police were not responding to any inquiries.
Hume was a reporter for The Hill magazine, newspaper about Congress for Congress, and had broken a major story in 1997 regarding the friction between House Speaker Newt Gingrich and a faction led by Representative Paxon (who announced his resignation just 24 hours after Hume's death).

In addition, Sandy Hume had just joined the staff at Fox TV News and was just three weeks into a job that represented the pinnacle of his young career. Oddly enough, aside from echoing the one Associated Press story, the Fox News website has ignored the death of its newest commentator.

Sandy already had a reputation for getting the story that nobody else wanted to look at. It is worth noting that his death came hard on the heels of reports that "a reporter" was about to break a story confirming the White House's use of investigators to dig up dirt on critics.

It has recently been confirmed that the man who performed the as-yet-unreleased autopsy is none other than Dr. James C. Beyer, who has a record of concealing homicides behind a ruling of suicide.

Kenneth Starr's "suicidologist" Dr. Alan L. Berman has waded in again and as he did in the Foster death ruled it "100% certain that this is a suicide and can be nothing else".

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Al-Zarqawi tape accuses Muslim scholars of betrayal

Mr. Pol---

He is and his family are in my prayers---

#87

Old news at [Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]

#84--raspail is as prescient as orwell was--but the french think that derrida and foucault are the geniuses--symptoms of a suicidal culture

harrigan has a blog anybody post a message pointing here

Norwegian kafir

What the hell is wrong with Fox News? I'm starting to get the impression that USA is not so much better than Europe after all.

We are a bit different---We are not willing to buy the party line regardless of the news source, because we have come to realize that all MSM has been compromised to one degree or another---
It's just a question as to which news sources, have even some mediocrity of journalistic integrity-

We will call them to the carpet---

#87--norweg--its over--as a typical fascist loser zarq is blaming somone else--the sunni ulema--for insufficient support--the jambiya in the back--and the clerics are getting on board with the vote--although now they want it delayed--now we know who killed the "scholars" this week--they weren't salafist enough--we are winning big time and the sunnis want to get on the train before it leaves the station--people prefer the strong horse--heh heh

FoxNews clearly yanked the original

I didn't see it last night, but this morning during Fox & Friends they advertised that part two would air tonight as part of Fox Report.

I just called Fox at the NY# and the girl told me it would be shown over the next 4 nights. I called 3x before she quit sending me to voicemail.

Joseph Farah's Radioactive Program just stated that they are working on the Fox-Eurabia program---

He stated that may have an answer during the program-

The Radio America Audio Link---

To phone Farah on the Radioactive program: 1(800) 510-TALK

Guys guys GUYS, calm down. this is what has most likely happened. they scheduled a 15 minute segment dedicated to this eurabia piece. they more than likely planned a video segment for one commercial break then a panel discussion on it for the other. it looks like they dropped the panel discussion becuase of time constraints or becuase there was another reason. The actual report was aired in its entirety. we just didnt get to see the talking heads discuss it.

Remarkably prescient Bat Ye'or interview- she being the scholar who has coined the term "Eurabia"...Bat Ye'or has completed a scholarly nearly 400 page analysis of what this (odious) phenomenon means...All LGF'ers MUST read this remarkable book ( I have had the distinct privilege of reading the final galley proofs) when it appears sometime between mid Januaryand early February

[Link: www.dhimmitude.org...]

"I do not see serious signs of a Europeanization of Islam anywhere, a move that would be expressed in a relativization of religion, a self-critical view of the history of Islamic imperialism...we are light years away from such a development...On the contrary, I think that we are participating in the Islamization of Europe, reflected both in daily occurrences and in our way of thinking...All the racist fanaticism that permeates the Arab countries and Iran has been manifested in Europe in recent years..."

#99. Right. Unfortunetly this not a full blown hour long special or somethig, but rather is just a short focus piece for the Fox Report. The website for the Fox Report, lists it as one of the news items it is investigating and details what will be on tonight as part II.

Pompey -

I was told last night that the segment was pulled--- and the person I spoke to was bewildered as to why-

Just my $0.02 but this may be a case of overreaching promotion by FNC and overexpectations on our part. Is it not possible that what you saw is what there was? There never was more than a few minutes?

Maybe they hyped the h*ll out of it and what they actually had was bupkis?

#99 Pompey

What are you smoking?

#98 fiery celt

They're talking about Pilgrims and the Bible? Am I listening to the right thing?

#99 Pompey

There's no panel on the G block.

Thom-

Yes---He Joseph Farah just made reference to it earlier, while answering a phone call-

#106 fiery celt

Thanks.

Pompey (#99),

And you know any of this, how?

If you look here
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

the video promo shows a heading: EURASIA 7PM ET

they ran a cutdown version at a later time.

Morocco may be an ally but young King Mohammed's subjects act like he's Fidel Castro and they'd rather die drowned in the Med than stay a moment longer.

Wait, that's how all muslims end up on our shores.

They pulled the discussion segment but not the video report segment. does anyone here watch Fox News on a regular basis? When they do an 'in depth' story they always have a panel discussion segment right after the initial report. thats what was missing and thats the missing minutes out of the 15 you all are talking about im willing to bet. It may be true they were pressured and had to drop the discussion segment but the video report segment seems to be intact.

PS
What i am smoking is cherry flavored Captain Black

:)

#103--john--they didn't frame the package with the proper leadin and intro--it just slipped by without comment--that's not how you intoduce your 2 week over hyped news package--you say "and now -the first of a special four part story on "eurabia"-the coming islamic conflict with europe"--that's how they promo'd it--but not how they showed it--it was feckless and smarmy

THE FOX REPORT DOES NOT HAVE A DISCUSSION PANEL.

#111 Pompey

There wasn't supposed to be a panel discussion. It was supposed to be a 15 minute "in-depth" look at the problems with moslem immigration by Steve Harrigan. What we got was 2 minutes of floating refrigerators.

And check your Capt. Black - pipe tobacco isn't supposed to mess with your head. ;)

Pompey:

Captain Black? You're bringing this thread way down man. Class up, dude.

its bull-its like good sex versus a furtive dry hump fully clothed under the covers--yeah--its still some kind of sex--just not what you thought you were going to get from watching a vivid video and meeting jenna jameson for drinks before going up to the rooml with her

The Fox Report doesn't do panel discussions--- Shepard Smith doesn't do panels.

The is a HUGE difference between a 2 minute segment and a 15 minute segment on broadcast news---

I WAS TOLD LAST NIGHT THAT THE "EURABIA" SEGMENT WAS PULLED---so were other lgf'ers...

Fox News was censored. We all were censored. The truth was censored.

We need to know who pulled the plug on the segment and why---

HULUGU, who's the radio talk-show host you mentioned the other day?

hmmm... so thanksgiving has jewish roots since the word is used numerous times in the old testament??? i always thought it was the pilgrims thankful for the natives helping them get set up to survive in the new world???

115*

I have seen those reports, they did interviews during them with people of difering opinions. Hating America was a devastating piece and it shows that Fox News is not afraid to air anti muslim radical pieces. The 7pm news broadcasts is a news show and this 'special report' was shoehorned in there. i was shocked they didnt promo it and missed some of it becuase i didnt know that this was the report.

my point is that the reason why this seemed so short was maybe becuase they didnt do a discussion of it. you do agree that they do have panel discussions on their special report stories during the regular news broadcast?

#117 Atlas Wannabe

Yeah, seriously ...

Pompey - go down to the tobacconist and get a proper blend.

But don't bother with the Hungarian-English phrase book.

Actually made a point to sit down for a Fox program--- was surprised at 4:00, then 7:00 (PST) when no "Eurabia" aired. Thought I was in the early stages of dementia. I hope Fox wasn't intimidated into pulling it (w/out explanation to viewers who tuned in to see it), but they aren't exposing Islam to anywhere near the degree it should be exposed.

What's really needed is a news channel-- or better yet, an entire Network-- exclusively devoted to militant Islam as it is manifested throughout the globe. Daily updates, news crawlers, regional news, feature stories that repeat, factoids, interviews with experts, etc. Such a channel is desperately needed.

jimmy the claw---

Farah is addressing that question, now.

I hope and pray that Eurabiagate blows up HEAVY!

112 HULUGU

I think that's my point --- one of my major complaints with 24 hour cable news, including FNC, is that they have essentially
all the time in the world to devote to a story and yet what do you get --- 5 minutes tops. Just watch something like Gibson's Big Story; they book people on for an interesting subject of fair import and 4 minutes into it, BANG hard commercial break and Th-Th-Th-That's All Folks.

And yet they spend hours and hours on cr*p like the Scott Peterson trial. Unbelievable.

An important thought occurred to me about dealing with dumb bureaucrats --

be careful how you call/write because its fully possible that some dumbass may be lumping both types of "complaints" together (why is it butchered vs. how dare you air it at all), to be theoretically analyzed later.

Some of the higher ups *may* be hearing about complaints -- but have no idea from what direction.

Just like a lot of those crappy pre-election "poll" questions such as "Do you think the President is doing a good job in Iraq?"
Negative answers intended to be critical of pussy-footing are misleadingly used to bolster the number of those critical of us being there in the first place.

Im not proud of my Captain Black, but the tobacco store was out of their good stuff, i still had to have my cherry and chocolate pipe tobaccos!

I have seen panel discussions on the Gblock, its not often becuase shepherd smith is a friggin whackjob psycho retard but i have seen them.

And yet they spend hours and hours on cr*p like the Scott Peterson trial. Unbelievable.

It's all Cable and MSM--- It's the dumbing down of America-

I trust Fox will do the right thing.

Meanwhile, my my, how delicious the subject matter is making someone--instead of the big bad US--uncomfortable for a change.

Mohammed, are you listening? And what about you other kleptocratic muslim "leaders" who export misery & terror while living it up in your palaces?

127 JohnSteele

Correction, I forgot about the fairly extensive FNC program on hating America and the Oil-for-Food scandal. Those they did a decent job with.

they will have that piece on sweden tonight--let's see if they connect it to the bombastic "eurabia" promos or let it slide in on little cat's feet--see if we've been heard or ignored--it should be telling

I've been told Thanksgiving is "Verboten," as it offends so many. Besides, the Dept of Education is now issuing school textbooks inferring that Muslims "co-discovered" America (using the apocryphal-- and disproven-- story about Columbus' "Muslim" navigator). Great-- now Muslims can say America is rightfully theirs, and bloodthirsty European Crusaders drove them out. We can all thank the US government for its PC sensitivities--- they've just given Muslims a historical claim to America equal to that of the Pilgrims. (Pretty soon, they'll revise that history too, saying the Pilgrims WERE Muslims).

#120--zb--mi amor--john batchelor--abc network radio--10pm --1am--est--the guy's the most articulate intellectual anti-idiotarian out there--has great guests from the wsj editorial page and ex-cia guys like john loftis--mahleresque background music--brilliant--oy--i feel like i'm a media crackhead ;-]

If we had an "All Militant Islam All the Time" Network, think of the possibilities...you could do the Eurabia story, concentrating on specific Euro nations...you could do Africa...Southeast Asia...militant Islam in the Americas...I bet such a network would have an instant, loyal following...I'd be willing to put down money to bankroll such a venture. People need to know.

Has any one bothered to save any previous Fox pages concerning this report? I was under the impression that this was to be a 3 part series, starting at 7pm ET (thats 3 hrs) now it's being refered to as 15 min segments (Sheesh).
So whats the real deal nobody realy knows, but I don't appreciate being promiced steak and getting vienna sausage!

It's amazing they can find the time for real news on Fox, in between covering such important stories as the cheese sandwich icon of Virgin Mary and Martha Stewart's website letter to her fans from prison.

Steve Harrigan, you have our sympathies, considering what you're up against...

#134 Firebreather 11/24/2004 01:05PM PST
I've been told Thanksgiving is "Verboten," as it offends so many. Besides, the Dept of Education is now issuing school textbooks inferring that Muslims "co-discovered" America (using the apocryphal-- and disproven-- story about Columbus' "Muslim" navigator). Great-- now Muslims can say America is rightfully theirs, and bloodthirsty European Crusaders drove them out. We can all thank the US government for its PC sensitivities--- they've just given Muslims a historical claim to America equal to that of the Pilgrims. (Pretty soon, they'll revise that history too, saying the Pilgrims WERE Muslims).

you forgot the jews and christians ran them out and wiped out any history that they ever where here

oh and emailed fox with a link to this thread

My disillusionment with Fox already started and finished on election night when they swallowed the exit polls and started a post mortem on Bush's campaign.

But the problem isn't Fox per se, the problem is TV as a medium. I think that the impulse for this series was to try to do what the blogs have been doing (which is why we all got excited about it), but the promotion that TV has to do to keep it's sponsors happy gave whoever squelched this story enough time to plan a pre-emptive attack. My money is on those who said CAIR slapped them with some last minute legal whoop-*ss.

Pilgrims smilgrims.

Thanksgiving was celebrated in Virginia one year and 17 days prior to the landing of the Pilgrims in Massachusetts!

;-)

/inter-State rivalry

Pass this along to your liberal friends who think Thanksgiving is about the white man killing the red man
[Link: www.night.net...]
George Washington's
1789 Thanksgiving Proclamation
---

Whereas it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly to implore His protection and favor; and Whereas both Houses of Congress have, by their joint committee, requested me "to recommend to the people of the United States a day of public thanksgiving and prayer, to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many and signal favors of Almighty God, especially by affording them an opportunity peaceably to establish a form of government for their safety and happiness:"

Now, therefore, I do recommend and assign Thursday, the 26th day of November next, to be devoted by the people of these States to the service of that great and glorious Being who is the beneficent author of all the good that was, that is, or that will be; that we may then all unite in rendering unto Him our sincere and humble thanks for His kind care and protection of the people of this country previous to their becoming a nation; for the signal and manifold mercies and the favorable interpositions of His providence in the course and conclusion of the late war; for the great degree of tranquility, union, and plenty which we have since enjoyed; for the peaceable and rational manner in which we have been enable to establish constitutions of government for our safety and happiness, and particularly the national one now lately instituted' for the civil and religious liberty with which we are blessed, and the means we have of acquiring and diffusing useful knowledge; and, in general, for all the great and various favors which He has been pleased to confer upon us.

And also that we may then unite in most humbly offering our prayers and supplications to the great Lord and Ruler of Nations and beseech Him to pardon our national and other transgressions; to enable us all, whether in public or private stations, to perform our several and relative duties properly and punctually; to render our National Government a blessing to all the people by constantly being a Government of wise, just, and constitutional laws, discreetly and faithfully executed and obeyed; to protect and guide all sovereigns and nations (especially such as have show kindness to us), and to bless them with good governments, peace, and concord; to promote the knowledge and practice of true religion and virtue, and the increase of science among them and us; and, generally to grant unto all mankind such a degree of temporal prosperity as He alone knows to be best.

Given under my hand, at the city of New York, the 3d dy of October, A.D. 1789.

(signed) G. Washington

#9 Dee

I saw that too (Moroccans emigrating to Spain). Harrigan talked about Theo Van Gogh's murder, 3/11, and how they were related to RoP immigration.

HULUGU, thanks, I wanted to see if his show airs here. We're all media junkies, you're in good company ;-)

Major bummer. The Eurabia special was going to be sweeet. I looked up the 60 Minutes segment from last May (mentioned by bigel above) titled The New French Revolution. That will have to do for now.

"I was gang raped by three people I knew, and I couldn't say anything, because in my culture, your family is dishonored if you lose your virginity."

Lovely culture. Congratulations, France.

#143 Renna

Our Pilgrims not only had cooler hats but they actually SURVIVED!

#140 JimmyTheClaw--

You're right...ultimately, the "Jooos" are behind everything bad that happens in the world, especially to Muslims.

#134 Firebreather

I've been told Thanksgiving is "Verboten," as it offends so many.

Thanksgiving's okay, but Christmas... how many weeks do you people need to buy a few gifts???

#100

Best. nic. ever.

Fox owes an explanation to its viewers...many of us had better things to do than sit around for hours waiting for a "special" they didn't intend to air. I wager intimidation/threats/lawsuits caused them to pull it.

In many cities and in many states, Christmas music/carols are outlawed, Christmas trees in the view of the public are outlawed, the word itself censored and stricken...meanwhile, the Muezzin (azzan, call to Muslim prayer) wails from public loudspeakers in Michigan and elsewhere, an Islamic curriculum is implemented in public schools, Islamic dress is the preferred norm, etc. etc. What the F--K is wrong with today's America?

#148 papijoe

You're not confusing the Virginia settlement of 1619 with the disappearing Roanoke Islanders (off what is now North Carolina)?

No. 1. In 1586, the first thanksgiving held by Englishmen on the North American continent took place on Roanoke Island, North Carolina. This celebration was by the company of 100 men from Cornwall, England that Sir Walter Raleigh had brought to America to found a colony. After a year when the relief ship arrived, they held a thanksgiving dinner, and fed-up with the hardships and perils, they all went home.

No. 2. In 1609, at Jamestown, Virginia, the starving remnants of the first settlers held a thanksgiving dinner while awaiting the arrival of their relief ship.

No. 3. In 1612, also at Jamestown, Virginia, a dinner was held after the arrival of Governor Dale with a ship-load of girls intended to become the wives of the settlers.

No. 4. In 1619, a dinner of thanks was held at Berkley Plantation on the James River in Virginia.

No. 5. In 1621, at Plymouth Plantation, a great dinner of thanks was held.

#37 Zulubaby

He must have received a lot of email re the cockup, and they put together a form email...I can imagine what they are trying to do re damage control.

As I had said earlier, I smell CAIR strong arm tactics...

I called, and as soon as I said 'Eurabia', I was immediately transferred to one of those delightful automatic systems where they give options re business, and being a member of Fox fans..and if you do not press a numer? Disconnect.

I just went to the website, and lo, this magically appeared, taiored, it would seem, to what they showed last night:Spain Battles Illegal Muslim Immigration

Since that is exactly the sound bite from Tuesday night, notice the date.

They must feel a lot of pressure, and soon we will have Eurabiagate, if they don't come clean...they've got a lot of 'splainin' to do.

I will call again...

For any posters who want to see what evolved last night, while a lot of us were trying to see what was supposed to be Eurabia, go to yesterday's 'Jihad to launch new English channel', as it is in live time...as we watched and freaked at being blindsided like that.

#151 Bad Penny

I like it too. Can the [bigoted word]s firebomb a nic?

On a kinda-related topic, there was a story last night on our local news (Dallas-Ft Worth) about a adult video store "magnate" (stores/arcades in seven states) who's been busted by the IRS for tax problem. In the story they mentioned that one his stores was once firebombed, they think because the store sold an X-rated video about the sex life of Muhammed.

They did air part 1. Was this source at Fox named Rather?

Zack;

Lovely culture. Congratulations, France.

The Barbarians at the Gates of Paris

The average visitor gives not a moment’s thought to these Cités of Darkness as he speeds from the airport to the City of Light. But they are huge and important—and what the visitor would find there, if he bothered to go, would terrify him.

A kind of anti-society has grown up in them—a population that derives the meaning of its life from the hatred it bears for the other, “official,” society in France...

Their hatred of official France manifests itself in many ways that scar everything around them. Young men risk life and limb to adorn the most inaccessible surfaces of concrete with graffiti—BAISE LA POLICE, fuck the police, being the favorite theme. The iconography of the cités is that of uncompromising hatred and aggression: a burned-out and destroyed community-meeting place in the Les Tarterets project, for example, has a picture of a science-fiction humanoid, his fist clenched as if to spring at the person who looks at him, while to his right is an admiring portrait of a huge slavering pit bull, a dog by temperament and training capable of tearing out a man’s throat—the only breed of dog I saw in the cités, paraded with menacing swagger by their owners.

There are burned-out and eviscerated carcasses of cars everywhere. Fire is now fashionable in the cités: in Les Tarterets, residents had torched and looted every store—with the exceptions of one government-subsidized supermarket and a pharmacy. The underground parking lot, charred and blackened by smoke like a vault in an urban hell, is permanently closed.

When agents of official France come to the cités, the residents attack them. The police are hated: ...The conduct of the police, he said, explained why residents threw Molotov cocktails at them from their windows. Who could tolerate such treatment at the hands of une police fasciste?

Molotov cocktails also greeted the president of the republic, Jacques Chirac, and his interior minister when they recently campaigned at two cités, Les Tarterets and Les Musiciens. The two dignitaries had to beat a swift and ignominious retreat, like foreign overlords visiting a barely held and hostile suzerainty: they came, they saw, they scuttled off.

No one should underestimate the danger that this failure poses, not only for France but also for the world. The inhabitants of the cités are exceptionally well armed. When the professional robbers among them raid a bank or an armored car delivering cash, they do so with bazookas and rocket launchers, and dress in paramilitary uniforms. From time to time, the police discover whole arsenals of Kalashnikovs in the cités

Renna our hats are still way cooler

;-)

#158 W-lover

They didn't air the whole thing.

#142 American Infidel

I found this, from before they aired that belch:Desperation in Morocco

A promo was already there, on the 11th:

[ed. note: "Eurabia," a special 4-part series on Muslims in Europe airs Thanksgiving week on the FOX Report, 7 pm ET. Don't miss it!]

It certainly does not sound like the sound bite from last night...

#161 Thom

I will be a witness for you...damn it, it was not there..just a sound bite ,with no mention of Eurabia, except in commercials after the program...

Any sceptics, please read the thread mentioned in #155:

JihadTV To Launch New English Channel

#162, NY Nana:

You're right, as I posted on an earlier thread, a Google search on keywords "harrigan eurabia site:foxnews.com" reveals a number of pages from their registration-only Fox Fans site promoting the "special four-part series" as early as November 11, and a couple pages with a link to Harrigan's videotaped responses to viewer emails concerning the series.

Note: If you want to see the pages in Google's cache, you have to turn off Javascript in your browser, or else you'll get redirected to the Fox Fans registration page.

This may have something to do with their pending arrival into Canada. They might be afraid of being banned before they even make it on the air, for "hate speech". Which in Canada is defined as doing or saying anything that has a remote possibility of hurting the feelings of a minority (except for Jews, of course--they don't matter).

OT

Here's a Thanksgiving story to warm your heart, and make you proud of service men and women. A story not covered at all by the local MSM here in Tulsa.

"Often as Bloggers we are eager to throw our two cents in on all the hot stories the MSM is miscarrying. This time I want to share a story not covered at all by the media. A story that will give you another reason to be thankful tommorrow.

At the beginning of September 2003 Hopper Smith was finishing up with his civilian jobs in preparation for mobilization to Afghanistan; like many other Oklahoma Guardsmen, Hopper had several jobs. At least one of which would not be waiting for him when he got back from his assignment overseas. He was spending last moments with his wife and four children, he wouldn’t see them for the holidays."

[Link: justbarkingmad.com...]

QM
PS: I'm not trying to pimp my own blog. I think it's a great story that won't get out otherwise.

Here is what I emailed foxnes, fwiw:

I am a long time devotee of Fox News. I was
disappointed to learn that you were pulling back or
canceling your "Eurabia" series due to pressure from
pro-terrorist groups. The blog
[Link: www.littlegreenfootballs.com...] which is also a
fan of Fox News, reported that confidential sources
say that you your scaling back the production due to
threats from anti-American agitators. I hope this is
not true.

Your devoted and core customer base will only be
energized by such threats. The people threatening you
do not watch Fox News, and probably watch Al Jazeera,
Christiane Annanpor, or Dan Rather. Please stand by
your true fans and not those Al Jazeera and Dan Rather
watchers.

#164 Dar ul Harb

Yet another phone call ended with no human contact. I wonder if there will be any comment tonight on Smith's part? I think they know they have a problem.

In attending my last class at Google U., I found that LGF was not the only sane blog looking forward to the program as a program...The Freepers were also discussing the anticipated program...as I am not familiar with navigating the site, I don't know if there is any more today.

Well, in about an hour & a half on the East Coast, we will see what happens..and I am going to be cooking an hour later tonight, but it is worth it.

Someone, Greenmamba, I believe, seems to think the White House and President Bush were behind this mysterious happening...sorry, I don't believe that concept for a nanosecond... if they didn't go after the MSM for all the libelous hate articles leading up to the election...and it is just not something the President would do...

In the end, either it was a case of incredible overhype, or CAIR and their cohorts..the ACLU would also try very hard to stop it, but they are in your face...

#137 Firebreather

It’s already started. With the blogs like LGF and others Islam is now under the magnifying glass and will find resistance increasing all the time, especially with each Islamic terror incident or murder. Their violence will be their undoing unless they change their tactics. This they might do, terror strikes in Saudi Arabia backfired but I see that they have seemed to have ceased.

#165 Pickle: The reason that Al Jazeera is not being aired in Canada is because of its anti-Semitic content.

Only FOX bears the blame for not airing the Eurabia special it promised its viewers. And incidentally, as we keep saying, FOX is avaiable presently in Canada via satellite. It is going to be available via cable, however, in January.

#168 NY Nana

How have you been? I haven't heard boo from you in a long while.

#171 hipper_than_thou

We were in Toronto for a few weeks recently, and from what I understand, they have not aired, as the Canadian equivalent of the FCC has such strict rules governing them. I have a feeling that Foxnews will not have a problem. It seems that the Government is handling it very well.

I just hope that it is handled the same way in the US.

OT, as tomorrow is Thanksgiving, this had me in tears a few minutes ago, when I saw it: Holocaust survivor and Polish savior meet after 60 years

Thanksgiving has a special meaning for all of us, especially those of us whose ancestors came here before the Shoah...we realize that we are really blessed, for we would never have been on this earth in all probability. For this man, I can only imagine his feelings.

For all of us, may this be a beautiful family holiday, and we all can give thanks for being born here, where all things are possible.

I wonder if the RoP even observes Thanksgiving. Soemhow I think not.

Well, when FOX comes to Canada they can stuff their digital crap where Islam shines! Who needs another tin-foil hat charger.

NY Nana: I get FOX here, and I do not have an illegal satellite dish. It might have to do with the area in which I live.

Al Jazeera is not aired because of its anti-Semitic content. This article is a very liberal one -- please bear in mind that it was written for Concordia -- but it explains why Al Jazeera probably will never be aired in Canada.

I TINK that Fox should really explain to the American People what has happened. I TINK.

Otherwise, after the bad smell of O'Reilly crawling all over the place to please the Demonrats (because he thought that the poodle might have won), we will have a second deep reason to be deeply displeased.

Fox does not want to visit the same plummeting audience of the Networks, does it ?

I wonder if Mr. Murdock would like their behavior.
I wonder if he is reading this blog tonight.

Mr. Murdock, please do not allow Fox News to align itself with the Media Matrix.
We are at war, we need to show that we know it.

And, Mr. Murdock, I am an American Citizen who has to write under a pen name because I think that the war has already reached our shores.
But if you need to know my name, don't think that I am HIDING under a pen-name, you can ask for my name from our gracious Host, Mr. Charles Johnson, and I will be happy to discuss openly the matter with you.

Thank you.

/well, or not, depending...

Eurabia Part II: Sweden Under Seige

FNC has been airing promos today for the second part of the series of reports, to run during the Fox Report w/ Shep Smith.

A promo just aired during the last 5 minutes of The Big Story w/ John Gibson.

We've been gipped and Fox isn't hearing us. What can you do? Some you win ... others, not so much.

i havent even gotten a response from harrigan

Tried that Google thing with "fox report with shepard smith" curious result in that Eurabia is not mentioned on 15 or 22 November returns that I got. Wonder why not? Any one more expierienced have an Idea?

Sweden Under Siege — Muslim immigration is out of control and causing a bitter cultural clash. Why are some turning a blind eye? Steve Harrigan exposes the truth in part two of his "Eurabia" series. Watch a clip.

watched the clip wonder if they are going to have more than just the clip

#174 beavereater

Have you ever watched Foxnews? If not, at least give it a chance; you may be surprised.

#175 hipper_than_thou

I am all too familiar with Concordia, and the rampant Jew hate for the past 2 or so years...sad. We have the same problems here, but have not been as open about it...Columbia University really rankles me, as our oldest got his MSc there, and now it is following in Concordia's shoes. It is scary for the Jewish students.

I had read in one of the Toronto papers about 2 weeks ago just how strict the Canadian Government is re al-jazeera, and that they have yet to meet the criteria for broadcast. How I wish I had saved the article! I happen to love Canada, and we come up every year, for the past 23. This kerfuffle hurts, and I hope that we can make up this family quarel...we need each other, damn it. We were there during our election, as we voted absentee, and were upset at the level of hate for President Bush...I pray that there will no problem when he meets with PM Martin. Bourque had an article today that IMHO is a convoluted version of 'H₂O', but really OTT...
Is the Annexation of Canada part of Bush's Military Agenda?

WTF??? I know that Bourque goes out of his way to insult the US and Israel, but that POS really is scary...and an alleged article like this does not bode well.

Nor does this: Bush visit sparks airport alert : SAUDI CITIZENS ARE TARGETED

After what happened in Chile, it is only reasonable that proper security precautions be in place. We would do the same for PM Martin.

JimmyTheClaw, LOL, you sound so forlorn. It wasn't much of a response anyway but I'd be happy to share it with you :-)

#179 Zulubaby

What can you do?

Switch off the TVs.
Don't buy the products advertised on the channels of the appeasers.
Talk with family and friends.
Create the conditions for a FREE channel of news.

Poitiers-Lepanto, I did that a long time ago. I don't watch the news on tv unless there's something specific that I want to see. That's right, not even Fox.

#186 Zulubaby

Well done, I am sure your health improved !!!

:-)

(The Media Matrix is TOXIC, it tries to intoxicate us)

Charles,
Under the provisions of the Patriot Act II ---Information sharing and information gathering would be a criminal offense! The work you do on Littlegreenfootballs and other news bloggers could be prosecuted, especially those weblogs which specialize in Mideast terrorism and Israel, like you and the likes of Jihad/Dhimmi Watch and Internet Haganah.

I just thought you would like a "heads up"

["SECTION 102 states clearly that any information gathering, regardless of whether or not those activities are illegal, can be considered to be clandestine intelligence activities for a foreign power. This makes news gathering illegal.

USA Patriot Act II would make news gathering a crime'

Think the first Patriot Act was a civil rights and personal privacy tragedy? Just wait until you see Patriot Act II. Section 102 of the police state bill would make it a crime to engage in any information gathering, meaning that people who gather news headlines on the Internet would suddenly be deemed criminals and terrorists.
Essentially, the law would destroy any last illusions of freedom in the United States. It would turn the USA into a communist-style police state, where no person is truly free.

News summary:
Source: http://www.rickieleejones.com/political/patriotact .htm

Congressman Ron Paul (R-Tex) told the Washington Times that no member of Congress was allowed to read the first Patriot Act that was passed by the House on October 27, 2001. http://www.newstarget.com/000716.html
The first Patriot Act was universally decried by civil libertarians and Constitutional scholars from across the political spectrum.
1. The secretive tactics being used by the White House and Speaker Hastert to keep even the existence of this legislation secret would be more at home in Communist China than in the United States.
The fact that Dick Cheney publicly managed the steamroller passage of the first Patriot Act, ensuring that no one was allowed to read it and publicly threatening members of Congress that if they didn't vote in favor of it that they would be blamed for the next terrorist attack, is by the White House's own definition terrorism. http://www.newstarget.com/001772.html
Whereas the First Patriot Act only gutted the First, Third, Fourth and Fifth Amendments, and seriously damaged the Seventh and the Tenth, the Second Patriot Act reorganizes the entire Federal government as well as many areas of state government under the dictatorial control of the Justice Department, the Office of Homeland Security and the FEMA NORTHCOM military command.
SECTION 301 and 306 (Terrorist Identification Database) set up a national database of "suspected terrorists" and radically expand the database to include anyone associated with suspected terrorist groups and anyone involved in crimes or having supported any group designated as "terrorist."
These sections also set up a national DNA database for anyone on probation or who has been on probation for any crime, and orders State governments to collect the DNA for the Federal government.
SECTION 311 federalizes your local police department in the area of information sharing.

Read it and Weep-

#186 zb

I'm with you. I watch a one-hour British TV mystery on Monday night, then nothing for the next seven days. Nothing. Nada. Rien. Not one millisecond. Also, I don't have cable. Nor satellite. Just rabbit ears.

I know my mental health is better off for it. I remember reading a Jack Anderson comment from the '70s about TV news: "It's like driving past a brightly-lit newsstand at 70 mph- at night". Very accurate.

Or, as a silly bumper sticker reads, "KILL YOUR TV".

(and, no, I'm not an AdBusters or Naomi Klein fan).

#180 Jimmy the Claw

He seems to be in Iraq...

Here is the latest on Foxnews, and they certainly make it seem like part 2 is a major program: Smith Report

Wednesday 7pm ET
Sweden Under Siege — Muslim immigration is out of control and causing a bitter cultural clash. Why are some turning a blind eye? Steve Harrigan exposes the truth in part two of his "Eurabia" series. Watch a clip.

Zulubaby

Look at the bright side...we see it, if indeed there is anything to be seen, in about 15 minutes, and we cal let you know if there is anything to watch, or any explanation of last night.

Not to worry..I promise not to give anything away, just a heads up if it is as promosed, and if not? A major kvetch!

#183NYN

Is the Annexation of Canada part of Bush's Military Agenda?

As a former Albertan, I live in hope...

Interestingly, a close frend of mine, a US Army Col. (Ret'd), got his three degrees at Yale, taught at West Point. His c. 1935 Ph.D. thesis was instantly deemed sensitive, and was sequestered by the US government for over 50 years. The topic- the US takeover of the Canadian oil fields. (No, this is true. I've flipped thorough the thesis, makes for interesting reading. My friend was a formidable thinker).

theres the add again

And here is Smith, doing the news, with nary a word...

#193 NY Nana

Here we go again ...

barbaric terrorist thats first time i heard that on msm

#194 Thom

You called it correctly last night, and it looks like you are doing it tonight...it would seem that the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing...

Now an Afghan blast...Iran backpeddling...I am getting sleeepy...

hopefully it dont come on while i check on my ham smothered with pineapple

now an add for part 3 WTF

You guys are all wrong.

It was on FOX . . . at 7:00 p.m. in the Tonga Time Zone in the South Pacific which is GMT +13 hours.

YOU MISSED IT!

Suckers!

Thom, Jimmy

They are scewing the public...they had the unmitigated gall to flog Part 3 tomorrow..

Next? A segment on the rice crop in China :)

#200 NY Nana 11/24/2004 04:20PM PST

BUT THEY WILL TELL US HOW MANY CALORIES WE WILL EAT TOMMOROW oops cap lock sorry

#199 Lawrence Schmerel

You couldn't have the decency to let us know??? Now you tell us??? Fine friend you are!

gawd not oj

#201 Jimmy the Claw

BUT THEY WILL TELL US HOW MANY CALORIES WE WILL EAT TOMMOROW oops cap lock sorry

No problem..at least you made a mistake with the caps lock! Some who shall not be named think it is supposed to be on at nearly all times..there should be a mandatory donation to the cookie jar whenever it is done intentionally, so help me...and when anyone uses 'Jooos'...now the next segment? Nada...not even a hint, and the show is just about 1/2 way over...

So far they haven't given the calorie count ...betcha it will be on before any real segment on Eurabia!

#203 Jimmy the Claw

I hoped it was an hallucination...damn.

#171 hipper_than_thou:

#165 Pickle: The reason that Al Jazeera is not being aired in Canada is because of its anti-Semitic content.

Only FOX bears the blame for not airing the Eurabia special it promised its viewers. And incidentally, as we keep saying, FOX is avaiable presently in Canada via satellite. It is going to be available via cable, however, in January.

Al Jazeera isn't banned in Canada. It's been CRTC-approved. That's the first thing you're wrong about. Here's the second:

NY Nana: I get FOX here, and I do not have an illegal satellite dish. It might have to do with the area in which I live.

I don't care what you have, unless you have a grey market (US) dish, you do NOT get the Fox News channel. You may get Fox itself, but that's not what we're talking about.

Pickle

Uh, does my nic give you a clue where I live? It is not North York Nana...it is (shock!) New York, and as far as I know my cable company can carry it. Sheees!

You are, I take it, a Strub's sour pickle?? :)

gawd now its hanging chads

" . . . it is very, very necessary for honest people to BE ARTISTS . Hardly anyone knows that the SECRET of BEAUTIFUL work lies to a great extent in TRUTH and SINCERITY"

VINCENT VAN GOGH

Calories and medical weed

ON next...

#210 Terps 11/24/2004 04:40PM PST
Calories and medical weed

throw in some pink floyd and a good movie and it sounds like a weekend to me

#207 NY Nana:

I was addressing posts by hipper_than_thou.

Pickle

I misunderstood; however I have been told by Canadians that certain Provinces allow Foxnews on legal satellite dishes.
Soon enough, it will be on Canadian TV..by January?

It looks like there will be an eyeblink on Eurasia right now...Swedes..yup/

anybody time that blurb

7:44 to 7:46.

Way to go, Fox.

Notice they didn't even use the Eurabia title. Something is really fishy here!

AGAIN! they showed part 2 of "eurabia" and it lasted excatly 4 minutes 7:42-7:46pm EST. this is it people, if foxnews is scared, we're all in deep doo doo.

OT:
declaration of independance is banned in a california school!:
[Link: www.reuters.com...]

All two minutes, just like last night...Thom wins! It was excellent, and it deserves a whole time slot for a far more thorough expose of just what they do when allowed into a country...Malmo has learned the hard way..and Foxnews screwed us.

Again only two minutes.

Loved the little boy making gun firing actions at the departing police car. NOT!

90% unemployed.

Sweden will either learn its lesson about what it means to be an asylum-seeker or be over-run.

#116 rayw

I agree...could it be arafish still stinking after being BBQ'd in hell?

Timed this segment at 2 minutes . . . shortchanged A-G-A-I-N!
Harumph!!!

I hope Fox decides to offer the full report at a later date. . .or . . . in the very least - offer to 'sell' recorded copies of the entire "Eurabia" series (uncut) . Perhaps the cost could help offset the legal fees ???

Anyone who has ever looked into the glazed eyes of a soldier dying on the battlefield will think hard before starting a war.

Jack Handey

!Mom of 4!

Mazel Tov!

#222 NY Nana

That visual is way too much even for me. *cough*

Somewhere in the FOX News building in New York is a can of about two hours worth of "Eurabia" material. A producer, reporter, camera operator, translator and sound engineer on a one month all expenses paid plus salaries and benefits gig in Europe on the FOX dime don't wire just 10 minutes of material and then get marketing hype at this level!

Calling FOX News from the blogosphere:

Where is the original "director's" cut?
Who pulled the plug?
What has been cut out?
When was the decision made to pull the plug?
How was the decision made?
Is the reporting crew in danger?
Has FOX News received any threats of violence?
How were the threats transmitted to FOX News? Phone? Fax? email? Letter?
Is the FBI involved?
Are there plans to broadcast the whole story?
When will it be broadcast?

"I didn't get a harumph out of that guy."

Governor Lepetomane

#221 bigel

I can't find a link, but I clearly recall it from their earlier commercials.

And another thing - they're still advertising it as being on at 7. In my world 7 ≠ 7:44 ...

Crap!

I couldn't watch anything because our satellite is out!!!

@#$%%^^$#$&*--- snowstorm!!!

Fox is scared--- Who(m) has the sort of leverage to force Fox News to censor and heavily promoted special news segment---

CAIR???
President Bush???
Blair???
Saudis???
Javier Solana???

Any suggestions???

helloworld is right---

If Fox News is scared, we all are in heavy duty sh*t!

A total waste of recording space. Two days in a row now, I've recorded Fox Report unattended. Two days in a row now I've scanned the thing when back home only to find a paltry 3 or 4 minutes of milquetoast porridge of little import.

Fox owes the public an explanation. For days it hyped 'Eurabia', which now turns out to be the Series That Never Came.

Remember what folks were angry about at CBS? Disrespect for their audience. Let's hope that Fox knows it's in the red with its audience; the sooner the explanation, the better. Nex

Looks like they're conflicted at Fox, to say the least. They've got Steve Harrigan who evidently has enough pull for the story not to be canned completely, but for four 2 minute segments they sure seem to be hyping the hell out of it. It certainly looks like they had to trim this back at the last minute, and just show enough of it to keep their reporter from walking.

It is sweeps this week?

#233 bigel

Again, I need to see where they claimed 15 minute segments.

I know. Hopefully someone better at google than me will be able to help.

Yes, as it turns out, November is a "sweeps" ratings month for all 210 television markets in the U.S.

Nielsen "sweeps" ratings period

"I want you to round up every vicious criminal and gunslinger in the west. Take this down: I want rustlers, cutthraots, murderers, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, half-wits, dim-wits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, horse wagglers, horse thiefs, bullbags, train robbers, bank robbers, ass kickers, shit kickers, and Methodists!"

- Hedy LaMarr

That's HEADLY, Headly LaMar!

"Could you repeat that, sir?"

- Taggart

So, there's your answer, folks.

Nothing malevolent on Fox's part.

Just ratings HYPE.

Our angry calls will have had one good effect though, in letting Fox know that there is an audience for this sort of story. (though I suspect they kind of knew that to begin with...)

Otherwise, we've been had by Fox's marketing department.

#237 Dar ul Harb

LOL. Is "HYPE" supposed to be a link, or do you need a font-color consultant? ;)

#239,

You see... I was illustrating hype. Trying to click on a blue bolded word and not getting what you expected can be quite aggravating...

Sorry if that came out the exact same blue as a link.

#240 Dar ul Harb

You see... I was illustrating hype. Trying to click on a blue bolded word and not getting what you expected can be quite aggravating...

Heh. Clever! :)

#185 Poitiers-Lepanto

Switch off the TVs.

If the TV is off how do I know who their advertisers are. Anyway boycotts never work except at the local (city) level.

#241,

Heh. Clever! :)

And you bought my B.S. explanation, too!

#233 Bigel

Here is the quote from the Foxnews site:

[ed. note: Steve Harrigan brings you a special four-part investigative series: "Eurabia." Tune in to "FOX Report with Shepard Smith" at 7pm ET beginning Tuesday, November 23. PLUS, check out his video response to your e-mails, and an EXCLUSIVE sneak peek at the series by clicking the video tab in the upper right.]

It certainly infers that there is a four-part series of Eurabia...not a mere 2 minutes (Thom and I timed it)...together, the 4 segments will amount to an underwhelming
8 minutes...a mrer blip..they run longer commercials.

#235 Dar ul Harb

GMTA......I was asking about that last night. Fox really deserves to be taken to task on this cheap trick...

#243 Dar ul Harb

Did I? ;)

#244 NY Nana

You know, the bottom line is that Fox is stonewalling. fiery celt said that she was specifically told the series had been curtailed. Other people are getting absurd non-responses to their emails. Others are getting dumped into voicemail.

Something stinks. I think the Fox startled a skunk ...

#206 Pickle: Your misunderstanding of the situation is because you fail to understand Canadian terms. There are several stages that foreign stations must go through before winning approval in Canada. Stage One is a petition with 500 or more signatures by Canadian stations requesting a specific channel. With a large Muslim population, 500+ signatures were easily attained for Al Jazeera. However, Al Jazeera failed Stage 2: they did not provide unbiased, bigotry-free programming. If you bothered to read all the posts I and others have provided, you would see that there is a link here and on other threads that illustrate this point, and show why Al Jazeera, as it stands, will never be aired here in Canada.

You also misunderstand about FOX being shown on Canadian television. FOX was initially available on satellite for those who wanted it. Then, with laws regarding American products versus Canadian products, some satellite equipment became illegal. However, with petitions being drawn, and FOX matching the unbiased broadcasting needed for television time, it has been approved for Canadian television.

Some Canadians still get FOX NEWS -- not just the FOX station, but FOX NEWS. That might have something to do with location (for example, border towns), I don't know -- but there are some with very legal satellite dishes who get FOX News.

All this said, I frankly don't see what the big fuss is about. I personally think that FOX started this bogus Al Jazeera/no FOX story to give themselves a little free publicity and cheap hype.

An Israeli poster provided some excellent information regarding a highly anti-Semitic Cameron/Hume show that blamed Israel for the 9.11 attacks. While the link was pulled off of FOX's site, it was up long enough for anti-Semites worldwide to capture it and show it everywhere. If you do a search for it, you can find it on all the worst sites of the internet.

Section 102 of the police state bill

no member of Congress was allowed to read the first Patriot Act

under the dictatorial control of the Justice Department, the Office of Homeland Security and the FEMA NORTHCOM military command.

Passes the moonbat test.

What in the wide, wide world of sports is a going on here?

I hired you people to try to get a little track laid,

not to jump around like a bunch of Kansas City faggots!

#243,

I stand by my analysis, they'd like to have canned the series altogether, but they can't, without screwing their reporter.

Hence, the ridiculous appearance of having hyped this series for at least the past two weeks, only to run a whopping 8 minutes of tape.

#197 JimmyTheClaw

ham smothered with pineapple

On Turkey Day?!!!

#249 Lawrence Schmerel

Want some beans, Mr. Taggart?

Dock that chink a day's pay for napping on the job.

- Lyle

#246 Thom

Thinking about it, and remembering what we all commented on last night, and especially what Charles posted for this thread? Something is very wrong, and I wonder, on this holiday weekend, if anyone will bother to cover it.

I wonder if it will just go by, and nothing will ever be revealed...

Sad. Foxnews has been my major news source on TV.

fiery celt said that she was specifically told the series had been curtailed.

The man I spoke with last night said the "segment was pulled"--- His words ---Not mine.

This whole thing is way too fishy!

Fox censored the Eurabia program or someone forced them to censor it!!

I have way too much respect for the reporting and investigative abilities of Steve Harrigan to believe this tripe that Fox is trying to pawn off on the public!

Something stinks!!!

Rupert Murdoch has big interests in a place that used to be known as Red China, and is still a Communist dictatorship for those not intimidated into saying "global economy."

The Chinese would have told him to tone down the coverage or face "difficulties" in the Commie Middle Kingdom.

Of course, Murdoch also owns publications like The London Times, and so he is more susceptible to government censorship worldwide than most US media moguls.

Is Blazing Saddles on AMC again?

Auf weidezein, baby.

#254 NY Nana

Yeah. Tomorrow's Thanksgiving and this will probably blow over. I'm not even planning on watching the last 2 installments (or Fox, for that matter) anymore.

But you know what? I can catch up on all the day's news in about 15 minutes on the web and not have to watch endless Scott Peterson updates!

It's kind of amazing, though, that of the thousands of people who visit LGF none of them have contacts at Fox ...

For what it is worth, I just e-mailed my favorite Fox show (actually the only one I watch), Special Report , and voiced my concerns. Whether it was a ploy to get us to watch Fox Report with Shepard Smith, or a cave to CAIR, I still feel dissed by Fox.

I told them that I would no longer watch Special Report, or any other Fox show for that matter. I also said I would boycott their sponsors.

I am sure it is just pissing in the wind, but I feel better.

Meanwhile, the LGF Spirit of America challenge rolls on.

Only $222 away from $8,000 now.

You are about to embark on a great crusade ... to stamp out run-away decency in the West. Now you will only be risking your lives, whilst I ... will be risking an almost certain Academy award nomination for best supporting actor.

#247 hipper_than_thou:

I'll grant your point about Al Jazeera. I don't know much about the approval process. I DO know that the Canadian government is ridiculously lax on enforcing hate crime laws where Jews are concerned. Just ask any Jewish Concordia student about that.

As for Fox News, what I know is this:

My mother lives in Haliburton, Ontario. She uses Bell Expressvu. Fox News is not available.

My uncle lives in Prince Albert, Saskatchewan. He uses Starchoice. Fox News is not available.

Another uncle lives outside of Saskatoon, Saskatchewan. He is pirating Bell Expressvu, so he gets all the channels available. Again, no Fox News.

I don't know anyone subscribed to big dish C-Band services. Maybe they can get Fox News, but I highly doubt it--unless they are furtively subscribed to a US service (illegal), or using a hacked videocipher chip.

Of all the people with saltellite dishes that I know--and as I've illustrated, I know quite a few--I'm the only person who gets Fox News. I have a hacked Dish Network system (illegal).

The only other way to get Fox News I can think of is if you have a FTA (free-to-air) receiver, such as the Blackbird. Those receivers tap into Dish Network signals, among others. Far as I know they're grey-market at best.

Somebody's got to go back and get a shitload of dimes.

I don't get Fox News, it costs extra on my dish. Coincidence? Anyway I was thinking of getting it just to see this special but decided to wait expecting to hear of what was said by you folk or getting linked to transcripts. I still want to subscribe but am far less enthusiastic now. 48 hour rule.

I was born here, and I was raised here, and dad gum it, I am goin' t' die here.

And no sidewindin', bushwackin', hornswaglin', cracker croaker is gonna row'n me bishen cutter.

Oh, geeze.

The only radio station in the Rio Grande Valley that will have the Longhorn football game Friday is in Spanish (KGBT 1530 am).

Corpus Christi is KSIX, 1230 am, Raymondville is KSOX, 1240 am

#252 Thom

I think you had about enough.

#269 Lawrence Schmerel

You can never have enough beans!

</oops - that's not in the movie>

Bigel,

I agree, this seems like a lynching party in search of a bad guy. I like the ones blaming President Bush. It does make a lot of sense, Bush spends all his time censoring the media from criticizing Europe. Heck, he even "looks" French.

#263 Pickle: I'm involved in charting anti-Semitic behaviour in Canada. There have been some victories, particularly in nagging the universities to provide equal time for pro-Israel views in their poli sci special lecture programs.

The stats really aren't that different over on your side. In fact, they might even be a little bit worse, particularly in some areas of Michigan, and California.

Fox should be criticised for it ridiculous sensationalism and manic daily harping on "News" that is not news, we all know the subjects. However, when it comes to hard news, they are by far the best.

There is a danger here among conservatives. When one group weakens a rival (libs and dems in this case), there is a natural tendency to turn on each other. I even saw Dems predict this, i hope we don't make them right.

#259, #270 Thom

Check your email(s)! :)

#265 Bigel

How I wish I could find it...if I do, I will post it here, but I have to go bake a pumpkin pie and do some other stuff, or it will be the first candle of Hanukka before I get Thanksgiving dinner ready!

#272 hipper-than-thou

Thank you so much for the mitzvah you are doing. I wish there was not so much for you to have to report, in this case.

Well time to invoke the Iron Fist rule, (where does that term come from?), Everybody have a happy Thanksgiving .

(Actually don’t tell me where that term comes from. Ouch!)

Although the show was short and kind of lame, it was still interesting, especially the part how emergency service workers are attacked when they go to put out fires. I found interesting the scene where some kids were pretending to machine gun an ambulunce (using hand gestures) that was driving away.

Also, kind of interesting that in this city, in a school of 1000 pupils, only 2 were Swedes. In 50 years, I wonder if this is how all schools in Europe will look. I guess this is the karmic result of their either active participation or cooperative silence during the Shoah, they will all soon be consumed by the flame of Islam, i.e., the sons of Ishmael will (unkowingly to them) exact revenge for what the Euros did to their brothers the sons of Isaac.

#272 hipper_than_thou:

"My side" is Regina, Saskatchewan. :)

As for the US... They don't have hate crime laws.

pickle: Then I'm telling on you for having a hacked dish!:)

Regardless of whether or not the US has hate laws, the issue is whether they are handling their anti-Semitism as well as they could.

This is not a US/Canada issue, but an issue of both countries working together to handle the same problem: anti-Semitism.

The Steve Harrigan pieces were not pulled. Part I last night covered illegal immigration from North Africa, especially Morocco, into Spain. It was very brief, but based on my own research on illegal immigration, it was quite accurate.

Part II tonight covered Malmo, Sweden: 1/4 of the population Muslim, areas where ambulances cannot go without police escort, a school principal where 2 native-Swedish students and all the rest Muslim immigrants talked about problems at the school.

From the build-up/adverts I expected four full-hour programs. Instead it is just a few-minutes segment in Shepard Smith's regular program. Disappointing that it is such short segments, but they are packing in some good stuff in those few minutes.

It's a start, but I'm sure they could come up with hours of programming that would have far more impact.

Now if they will cover the Muslim propaganda machine subverting US schoolchildren with their lies and deceptions...

I would not be here
if I had not been there
and I would not have been there
if I hadn’t just turned
on Wednesday the third
in the late afternoon
got to talking with George
who works out in back
and only because
he was getting off early
to go see a man
at a Baker Street bookstore
with a rare first edition
of "Steamboats and Cotton"
a book that he would never have sought in the first place
had he not been inspired
by a fifth-grade replacement school teacher in Kirkwood
who was picked just at random
by a man on a school board
who couldn’t care less
and she would not have been working
if not for her husband
who moved two months prior
to work in the office
of man he had met
when he served in the Army
and only because
they were in the same barracks
an accident caused
by a poorly made roster
mixed up on the desk
of a sergeant from Denver
who would not have been in
but for being in back
of a car he was riding
before he enlisted
that hit a cement truck
and killed both his buddies
but a backseat flew up there
spared him from dying
and only because
of the fault of a workman
who forgot to turn screws
on a line up in Detroit
because he hollered at Sam
who was hateful that morning
hung over from drinking
alone at a tavern
because of a woman
he wished he’d not married
he’d met long ago
at a Jewish bar mitzvah
for the son of a man
who had moved there from Jersey
who managed the drugstore
that sold the prescription
that cleared up the sunburn
he caught last summer.

#86 fiery celt

Sadly, Britt Hume as reason to be afraid---He knows first hand the legititimacy od any death threats or that of bodily harm---On Sunday, February 22nd, 1998, Sandy Hume, the 28-year-old son of journalist Britt Hume, was reportedly found dead in his Arlington, Virginia home.

OMG. Poor Brit. I never heard one single word about this. I will read the links you posted fc, and thanks. Geeze, unbelievable.

Does anyone remember that old email about the "Clinton Body Count"? It was like 7 years ago when I got it.

#277 pickle

U.S. Hate Crime Laws

#278 hipper_than_thou

Spot on!

#279 ibu_guru

Bottom line? 'Hate crimes' seem to mean different things to different people, sadly.

#281 monkeyweather

Is this the clinton body count that you were looking for?

#260 rayw

Wow - you are boycotting Brit Hume because you feel Fox News mislead you about 'Eurabia'? It's your choice but ask yourself what other network would have ANY coverage of this topic? I guess you can always go to CNN...