finally #1

I don't have to watch it. I live it. :-(

Chavez = Mussolini

Venezuela's regime raids Jewish school

Any Euros care to explain why the general culture there is to Tolerate Intolerance moreso than in the USA?

#4 mglazer

To answer your question: fear and Jew-hatred.

The Euros will still hate the Jews even as their great cathedrals are turned into Mosques.

Parlez vous ALLAHU AKHBAR, assholes?

# 4 mglazer

I'd say lack of true democracy.

Think of the foundation of the American Republic, and then compare to, say, French Revolution.

#6 Joel

In fact, the mayor of the city where I live plans to build a hughe mosque and make it the "symbol of the city". And he says this is modern...

It would be absolutely impossible to produce or show such a movie in Sweden...

Actually, I wonder if Europe wouldn't be more likely to be less tolerant of the intolerant if they weren't so determined to be not-American. Whatever they percieve we are, they will kill themselvs to be the opposite.

#9 A-Z

In fact, the mayor of the city where I live plans to build a hughe mosque and make it the "symbol of the city". And he says this is modern...

Dang, A-Z, that sounds tough. Is it being built by your tax money?

#9 A-Z (euro-dissident)

The building will be modern. The beliefs giving rise to the building, alas, are very, very old.

Sorry for OT so soon:

The US human rights group CCR center for constitutional rights prepares a lawsuit against Rumsfeld, Tenet and eight others in Germany! because of Abu Ghraib.

Vice President of the group Peter Weiss explaines, that the german right approves this, although no german is involved. Tomorrow 11:00 o´clock in Berlin he will present the case.

Sorry, only a german link:

US human rights activists sue Rumsfeld in Germany

Thanks for that video link, Charles. I hadn't seen parts 3 & 4.

People laughing as they watch beheading videos... Chilling. Incomprehensible. Barbaric.

#10 Engst

It would be absolutely impossible to produce or show such a movie in Sweden...

Don't y'all have such movies and shows all the time but with EEEEvil Americans (TM) or EEEEeeevil Bush (TM) oppressing all those head-choppin', kid-killin', civilian-blowin'-up misogynists and sometimes using torture involving panties?

As I noted earlier, Steve Harrigan's video blog entry (RealPlayer high-bandwidth version link) from Baghdad promoting the series is also available, and worth watching.

#4 mglazer

Tolerating intolerance demonstrates superior tolerance.

#16 Bigel

Spain.

Surprised?

#10 engst

I guess Sweden also won't be turning this story into a movie of the week.

Thansk Charles...

TIME TO WATCH!

The US human rights group CCR center for constitutional rights prepares a lawsuit against Rumsfeld, Tenet and eight others in Germany! because of Abu Ghraib

Wonder when the lawsuits will be filed on Zarqawi for sawing the infidels heads off?

Has the damn world gone MAD! They file a lawsuit agaisnt us for panties on a persons head, but there is no suit against a dictator that killed perhaps almost a million people in his tenure and buried them in mass graves.

There is no lawsuit coming on Zarqawi, who sawed of the heads of those trying to REBIULD the country that he and his ilk would like to keep in the stonages for all time.....

makes me so f'ing mad....

Dennis Prager is on now with a fellow named David Pryce-Jones who has written about the subject of the Islamization of Europe. Very interesting stuff. Talking about the thousands who are converting apparently to get on the side of the supposed "winners" and that they are often frighteningly radical and violent. Said there was a similar phenom in Europe pre WWII. Also descriptions about people called "fellow travelers" who don't convert but go along with.

#14 zuckerlilly,

Shouldn't they be suing Peter Struck?

What is it with people who live in glass houses, especially those in Germany?

#22 A-Z

Spain.

Surprised?

Nope.

#19 bigel

Anti-Semitism is also a tool totalitarian leaders and their enablers use to rally the troops to their cause--in this case, the destruction of Israel.

#4 mglazer

Tolerating intolerence? Not in The Netherlands anymore.

Dutch MP Ayaan Hirsi Ali will make a sequel to the film Submission titled "Submission part II: Shortcut to enlightenment" and is writing a book on the same theme.

Hizbollah has finally been made illegal.

Demands on Turkey for its entry to the EU have become more stringent (not good enough for Wilders, though).

The Wilders Group would become the second largest party (29 seats according to a De Hond poll), larger than any of the three parties currently forming the government.

Support for the flipflopping largest party, the Dutch member of the Socialist International, is slowly eroding.

#31 bigel

You got it.

#23 scaramouche 

I wonder what she could do? If she (hired someone) and took them back by force, undoubtedly the Swedish government would put her in jail and give them back. Is there a third country that would accept her and her kids in that scenario? What a nightmare.

mad_scientist # 25

You are right. Especially in the current situation, when the german army ist accused to have abused their own soldiers in different army locations. Electro shocks, stubbing out burning cigarettes on the necks of soldiers, cold water torture, humiliations and so on and on, every day new accusations comming out.

#25 Mad_Scientist

Has the damn world gone MAD! They file a lawsuit agaisnt us for panties on a persons head, but there is no suit against a dictator that killed perhaps almost a million people in his tenure and buried them in mass graves.

Let's see from their point of view.....sue Rumsfeld, for example, and Rumself may (okay, will) call you an idiot. Sue Moslems, and you will get your throat slit or have homicide bombers come after you and your family. As a nice law-abiding citizen, you are unarmed. Muslims are not nice law-abiding citizens. Maybe if you sue Rumself you get suck up points and get to live.

-> #18 SwampWoman

Yapp. Michael Moore is almost a kind of a hero here in Sweden. And I'll guess Noam Chomsky's greatest fans are Swedish. Unfortunately.

A Gallup among Swedish Members of Parliament showed that 80% hoed for Mr Kerry to win the presidential election.

By the way - the next chairman of the UN General Assebly, Jan Eliasson, is ...Swedish.

Lucky thing we dissidents have FOX News - and LGF ;-)

#32 nachtwacht,

These are all good developments, apart from the business about EU and Turkey.

Apart from the fact thats idiots such as Guenther Verheugen have raised Turkeys hopes for accession to the point of certainty - meaning that a rejection at this stage would likely be more costly than acceptance - Turkey's accession to the EU would be highly beneficial in another way - it would finally put an end to these hallucinatory, socialist EU superstate illusions.

#35 bigel

Well I feel flattered, but not. I'm native Spaniard. Well marrano. I guess that'll satisfy your curiosity. ;-)

#34 A-Z (euro-dissident),

true but strange nevertheless given the many Spaniards with jewish roots.

Are we going full circle here, or have we just been one of Germany's planet's since WWI? Either way it seems to verge on the obscene that people would be filing a human rights suit against Rumsfield in Germany. The blood of our men still stain the fields of Europe, their bones forever interred in foreign soil.

I found out something interesting that you LGFer's probably already knew. According to Islam America has never been a victim, always the vicitimizer, but never a victim. I always thought it was because we are hedonistic, materialistic pigs. Which they believe too. But in Islam, in order for us to be worthy to Allah, America must suffer, must become a victim. I have seen this philosophy over and over. It is merely a thinly veiled envy disguised as Islam pearls of wisdom. It seems they find our optimism, our ability to laugh and love, which is highly restricted in Muslim socities, offensive. We have to suffer, then repent, then collapse. They seek to bring us down. Our way of life is individual freedom. Muslim leaders cannot tolerate a free society.
We are optimistic, we are light hearted. But we are not soft. We will strike back, and if we have too, we will destroy those who threaten us. Japan learned the hard way.

#15 song and dance, Has anybody checked out Millenium Info. Sys. to see what they do? Might be time for a petition to their customers to see if we can lay off some of their business!

-> #23 scaramouche

Thanks for the link!
Ilya Meyer does a great job!

Re #38:

I'm goin' to apologize for all the typos. I ain't takin' time to preview because I'm SUPPOSED to be working, and I'm not a very good job at doing either.

I'm still trying to think what deep psychological issues caused me to type "Rumself" instead of "Rumsfeld" because that is not a typical typo.

#23

Unfortunately, this is a common story involving all muslim nations and western countries. I remember a big hubub not to long ago over the state department issuing a warning to U.S. women against marrying Saudi's because that exact same thing kept happening. Sadly, the governments including the US do nothing to get the kids back except write mean letters.

#20 Dar ul Harb -- Steve Harrigan's blog video

Thanks for that link. Yes, it really was worth watching. His point that "We don't understand how these people think," was striking -- coming from an experienced reporter who has seen more horrible stuff than I ever want to see.

"They have absolutely no mercy. At all."

(shaking head) It's just hard to fathom.

This, and his Eurabia series, should be required viewing for every moonbat.

My main criticism of the series is simply that it was too short. There's enough material there for four 1-hour reports. I agree with bigel that European anti-Semitism would be a logical subject to include.

I hope Fox News will do a longer series.

#3 stephania

That is horrible. And the story doesn't explain why - only that it comes from criminal-turned-judge Maikel Moreno

According to this blogger -Maikel Moreno has a little history:

1987- As a member of the intelligence police he is found guilty of homicide and sent to jail.

1990- Released from jail

1990- Weeks after being released, he finds a position in a Court.

2002- Is seen with Chavista Deputies during the disturbances of April 11th.

May 2002- The Head of Chavez MVR in Caracas says the party will provide defense for the gunmen filmed shooting from Puente El Llaguno at the peaceful opposition march. Among the gunmen were an MVR City Councilman and two workers of the same municipality. Then lawyer Maikel Moreno is put in charge of their defense.

September 2002- He is appointed provisional Judge by a Government panel and ratified by the Supreme Court to the position. The law says to become a judge you need to have some form of postgraduate work which Judge Moreno does not have.

February 2003- He orders the two opposition leaders detained despite of the fact that one of the charges is not even in the criminal code. The charges are brought by a prosecutor who is the niece of the Attorney General (Chavez' first Vice-President) whose area of expertise is not even criminal law.

Yeah- sounds like a wonderful ol' chap.

The Mullahs will preach hate, but looks who's getting nervous now - Hamas! Hamas are openly worried that the Palestinian people might have "illegal" guns. Can't have an armed populace if you're gonna steal an election, you know.

#43 hm

You'd be surprised how many ignore it. And, ITOH, how many prefer to hide it. Still scared after 300+ yrs of Inquisition. In this little town where half of the population is of Jewish origin, they call the old Inquisition HQ la casa del miedo, i.e. house of fear... I wish there was a way to make all of us accept and be proud of our Jewish heritage.

#48 SwampWoman

> Rumself

Run out of gin and white raisins?

#36 Daybrother; #46 engst

It sounds like the mother's only recourse is to arrange to kidnap back her kids. Reminds me of this movie.

Charles, Way OT, sorry:

Dr. Mahathir "Moonbat" Mohamad, Former Prime Minister of Malysia, will be opening the session of the Intl. Congress of Families, [Link: www.dicf.org.qa...] in Doha, Qatar today.

Rabbi Daniel Lapin, thoroughly anti-Idiotarian, Michael Medved's rabbi, will be speaking at this event as well. Hey, it happens. Of course, when he landed at Doha airport he doubled the number of rabbis in Qatar...

Here are some of the topics Mohamad is covering:

Chairperson Dr. Mahathir Mohamad
1. The Family and Globalization

2. Toward an International Policy to Protect the Family
Mr. Amro Mosa, Arab League Secretary-General

3. The Family and Development
12:00 – 12:20 Dr. Mahathir Mohamad

I can't wait to hear how families would be better off with less access to Western freedoms...

It wouldn't be complete without this little gem:

The beheading of British engineer Kenneth Bigley (search) in Iraq went from videotape to the Internet, then from cell phone to cell phone, bringing a smile from one young British Muslim who says he knows who the real killers are.

Wait...just wait...you know what's coming....

"They are not Muslims. They are Jews," the young man said.

Nu, you were thinking it could have been somebody else doing these horrible things?

#56 Bigel

I also prefer anus, but most of the people, including Jews, don't know the meaning of the word. I've been looking for conversion, but had no luck so far. I may if move to UK or US, but that's not handy at the moment.

Some semi-coherent ravings from al-Zawahiri broadcast today on al-that-Jazz.

#60 scaramouche (which I cannot even think of in my head without singing along with it ma-ma-mia ma-ma-mia)

zarcoward:

"Our final advice to America, although I know they will not heed it: You must choose between two methods in dealing with Muslims. Cooperate with them with respect and based on mutual interests or deal with them as free loot, robbed land and violated sanctity. "

How about this - you respect our right to live, and we'll respect yours.

#59 A-Z

Is it true that there are some last names that are common among the conversos? I had a friend once who spoke fluent Portugese. He said that names that meant certain animals and vegetables in Portugese and Spanish were often converso last names-and that it indicated to other families who also had Jewish origins.

#59 A-Z (euro-dissident)

I may if move to UK or US, but that's not handy at the moment.

If it becomes remotely handy in the semi-near future, email me. I'm moving to the Seattle area soon and you'd be welcome to hang out at the Smugmonkey compound until you sorted things out.

A-Z (euro-dissident) & Stephania,
You both really do write very well in English. I don't know about everyone else, but you make me look bad.
And -
I love Spain, I makes me sad that it is a posterchild for Eurabia.

-> #36 Daybrother
-> #55 scaramouche

Your right about those kidnapped children. Please, feel free to write to the Swedish social democrat foreign minister, Mrs Laila Freivalds, and ask what SHE, and the government is doing...

She visited Arafat rather recently. She should know.

registrator@foreign.ministry.se

(By the way, you might also want to ask her about this... Freivalds - HAMAS )

#59 & #62
I used to work with a Colombian guy with the last name Cadavid. He told me that there were a lot of Jews with the last name David, and that the Catholics added the "Ca" prefix to the name to differentiate. I'm not sure how true this is though.

#32 nachtwacht: The largest national political party in Holland is actually named the "Socialist International?" Gee, how could the country get so screwed up when the people put socialist internationalists in power? It's like diving into a wood chipper that empties into a vat of acid and thinking "I'll probably make it through this just fine." I mean heck, our socialist internationalist party at least feels the need to hide behind another name for fear of scaring off voters.

Advice to Euros: Just go with Islam and be done with it. Because you're just going to keep coming back to socialism, which is going to destroy you through some other mechanism if not that one. The whole "I hate you Uncle Sam! But need you to want to save me from my latest suicide attempt!" schtick is so 20th century. Just jump already.

A-Z (euro-dissident)

I've been enjoying your discussion with Bigel and wanted to relate the following observations from my last visit to Spain (it's really too bad that the politics have turned the country into a dump especially because it is so beautiful and given its recent "liberation")

Anyhow, what struck me was that almost every town had a "Jewish Barrio" (excuse the spelling) or the locals made something characteristically Jewish, yet typically no Jews lived there.

In one town, the local craftsmen made traditional leather trunks with decorative nailheads which included magen david's. Yet, none of them knew the association of the symbol. Another town's craftsmen produced decorative 7-branched candelabra, again without understanding the significance.

So, while traditional Jewish names or symbols continue to exist the Jewish communities are essentially gone (with a couple of exceptions) - proving again that to the Euro-peons the only good Jooo is a dead Jooo.

#62 Writer Mom

The best source I know about converso and Sephardic names isthis. There is a large list. There are a few Portuguese and Spanish names that are common among conversos, but many of them were also bearde by old christians. So it may mistake you sometimes.

#63 Smug Monkey and #64 Susanita

Thank you very much.

#66 WWTW

Sorry that I don't know that name, but Colombia is full of Anusim. Certanly the name sounds very Jewish.

#68 Bubbaman

Are you sure they didn't know? Maybe they just pretended... Again think of 300+ yrs of Inquisition.

#69 A-Z

Hey! Cool site. Very interesting stuff there and delicious recipes...Yummy...

That these mongrels are allowed in the UN makes me altogether bonkers. That the LLL give these mongrels money makes me even more bonkers. That the Paleostinians are not shipped to the western sahara and have convinced the LLL that they are victims of an 'Israeli occupation' is making me ever more nutzoid than normal. WAKE UP WORLD- YOU ARE COLLUDING IN EVIL BY ASSENTING TO THIS SICK IDEOLOGY.

WHOEVER DENIES THAT TERRORISM IS A PART OF ISLAM IS
KAFIR from Islamic website...

[Link: knowislam.info...]

Allah (swt) says,"Prepare as much as you can from power (missile weaponry) and steeds of war, in order to terrify the enemy of Allah" [EMQ Anfal: 60]Allah (swt) made it obligatory in this ayah to prepare (Al I'daad) and to terrify (Al Irhaab) the enemy of Allah. This is waajib and this ayah is qati' (clear cut) and whoever denies it's meaning is kaafir regardless of his `interpretation' of terrorism. Allah (swt) says,"Nobody rejects the ayat except the Kafirun." [EMQ Ankabut: 47] The ayah mentioned Al Ijhaad, which means:"To reject and say by the tongue: `it is not true'."
Furthermore, Allah (swt) says,"Who is more oppressor than the one who lies about Allah or denies the truth when it comes to him? Is there not a place in hell for the Kafirun? As for those who strive hard in our cause, we will surely guide them to our paths. Verily, Allah is with the Muhsinun." [EMQ
Ankabut: 68-69]
Whoever says that Islam is free from terrorism or wants to
differentiate between Islam and terrorism is committing Al Juhoud and that is Kufr Akbar – and will take them out of the fold of Islam.
The one who says `we should fight against terrorism', he is fighting against Islam. We know very well that USA meant no one else by the term `terrorists' but Islam and Muslims and the one who wants to avoid terrorism, is avoiding Islam.
THE KUFFAR ARE THE ENEMY
It is known that the USA is the enemy of Islam and Muslims. The fact that it is Dar ul Kufr Asslie, by default it is the enemy of Islam and Muslims. The original rules for any state that is not dar ul Islam nor has a treaty with it is that it is the enemy.

25 mad_scientist

Good thing for Zarqawi he merely sawed heads off. Had he instead put panties on them, he'd have hell to pay from the Euros.

Gotta love those Euros.

#67 Model4,

The largest Dutch leftist party is actually called Labour Party - very inventive.

And you better hope the Euros get it and that they get it soon because it will inevitably be American blood that saves the Euros - again.

I just finished my weekly tour of MEMRI and just rolled over this one. Sheik Abd Al-Jalil something or another was spewing forth his latest intellectual musings. He starts with the emergence of social liberty leading to Freudian sexual urges, to 1000 Jewish soldiers fighting in Iraq, to America is fighting for Israel, to ususal canards about Ben Franklin.

This one is too good to miss! Transcript available here but go to the website - it's much better on T.V.

It's not only the weather outside that's frightening this holiday season...

[Link: www.worldnetdaily.com...]

Don't be surprised this Christmas season if you run smack into a cold, calculating, communist killing machine during your trip to the mall.

Chances are good you will see visages of a man who ordered hundreds, perhaps thousands, of innocents to the firing squads.

And if you visit the hip chain stores, you will no doubt encounter the face of a man who very nearly triggered a nuclear war between the U.S. and Soviet Union.

Where will you see all this? Pictured on T-shirts sold in all the hip chain stores and produced by capitalist companies like the Burlington Coat Factory.

Advice to Euros: Just go with Islam and be done with it. Because you're just going to keep coming back to socialism, which is going to destroy you through some other mechanism if not that one.

Islam will cannibalize socialism. It's inevitable, and it has happend before. The Iranian Tudeh Party, a motley collection of socialists and communists, joined with Khomeinists organizing strikes and violent street demonstrations to oust the Shah in 1979. All of this was done in the vain hopes that the Tudeh Party could either hijack the Iranian Revolution or at least have a place at the new government's table. Well things didn't quite work out as the always gullible leftists had hoped. The Tudeh Party was tolerated briefly and then viciously purged in February 1983. The government arrested leader Nureddin Kianuri, other members of the party Central Committee, and more than 1,000 party members. The party was banned, and Kianuri confessed on television to spying for the Soviet Union and to "espionage, deceit, and treason." Possibly because of Soviet intervention, none of the leading members of the party was brought to trial or executed, although the leaders remained in prison. Many rank and file members, however, were put to death.

Watch "Eurabia" at FoxNews.com OR You can watch THIS tomorrow, ain't that special?

A satellite television network, set to debut on Tuesday, says it will be the first English-language Islamic programming specifically aimed at Muslims in the United States and Canada.

Buffalo-based Bridges TV says it will offer children's shows (Muslim cartoons, educational shows and animated Qur'an stories and fables); news shows covering events here and in Muslim countries; legal advice on civil rights, immigration and business issues; and "quality family programming," such as sitcoms and comedy shows.

I can see it now..." I dream of Jeanne'hid" or, Billy Joe Bob and the 40 Assassin's" or, West Wing Headsawer's. What a Country this is, huh?

[Link: www.newsmax.com...]

#39 engst

FUNNIEST TYPO OF THE YEAR NOMINEE:
(forgot one little p)

A Gallup among Swedish Members of Parliament showed that 80% hoed for Mr Kerry to win the presidential election.

LOL. ho
I guess that's legal in Sweden?

-> #79 Beagle

*LOL* =)
Sorry, seems like I'm more fun in English than Swedish...

(And yes, it's allowed to sell sex in Sweden - but not to buy, anymore).

BTW, here is more about the Members of Parliament, hoPing for Kerry

The seven circles at the bottom shows the views of the parties.'Bush is not popular in the Parlament'

If the Islamofacists in Europe don't want any Westerners in "Muslim lands" then why are they in our lands? We should kick them out now!

Can I nominate Harrigan for a Pulitzer? I love his work. He's got more than guts- he's got BALLS!

"...Westerners in Arab lands need to be killed by any means necessary." Sheik Omar Bakri

I wonder?
Does this mean that Westerners should kill Arabs by any means necessary when in Western lands?

hm:

And you better hope the Euros get it and that they get it soon because it will inevitably be American blood that saves the Euros - again.

We won't go the third time, even if Bush gives the order. I think the Euros are in deeper trouble than they imagine. They're making yet another mistake on a collosal scale. Those refined, supersubtle, delusional, sneering cowards.

#80 engst

And yes, it's allowed to sell sex in Sweden - but not to buy, anymore

Eh? The police arrest clients of prostitutes but not prostitutes?

Thanks for taking that comment in the spirit in which it was intended. Your English is 100% better than my Swedish.

Bush does pretty well with Moderaterna and Krisdemokraterna (Moderates and Christian Democrats?). Are those the biggest parties?

#74

Don't count on American blood, it's not going to happen.

#67 Model4

About the Dutch labour party, PVDA.

The PVDA is the only Dutch member of the organization called "Socialist International". The Dutch Socialist Party is not a member, to add to the confusion. Its name stands literally for "party of the labor", in Dutch: Partij Van De Arbeid.

The A is now mockingly said to stand for either "allochtonen" (Greek for aliens) or "arabieren" (arabs) and the V for "voor" (for the benefit of), because they are widely held responsible for allowing the mass immigration of muslims. So, for example, critics use a combination like this: party for the arabs (Partij Voor De Arabieren).

That concludes today's Dutch lesson.

Until 1946 the old name of the PVDA was SDAP (Social Democratic Workers Party), very similar to NSDAP, the german nazi party (National Socialist German Workers Party, or National Sozialistische Deutsche Arbeiters Partei).
Therefore I like to call them our national socialists, because they are the only Dutch international socialists with full membership of an organization wihich has Fatah as a consultative member.

#26 Gilly

If Pryce-Jones is speaking, he's essential listening. He wrote the erudite intro. to Robert Spencer's Islam Unveiled.

Further, he wrote The Closed Circle: An Interpretation of the Arabs. Which book greatly asssisted me in understanding my Arab clients' odd personalities. Various LGFrs reference the "honour/shame" paradigm when posting abpout arabs, and this is Pryce-Jones work being applied. Along with money-favouring, power-challenging and, generally, the effects of misogyny.

Pryce-Jones' book is available here, and I highly recommend it:

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

Interesting article

Terror expert: Qaida WMD attack on US likely soon

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

I wonder what the US response would be to such an attack?

#72 zygazint

Are you retired? From the number of informative posts you make, I have decided you must be, because it seems impossible to come up with the links and info you have. OTOH,you could have a large support staff. I delight in
your work. I am retired, but can hardly keep up with the
world as seen through LGF.
Thanks to you.

#88 Earl

Thanks for the Reading recommendation you gave me on
an earlier thread. Will have read it within the week.

I still believe in The first Law.

bigel and A-Z:

To me, calling someone an anus is much more offensive than calling them a murrano. I guess that is just me.

While Fox's Eurabia show may have been a disappointment, it's show on America hating, a full hpur, was excellent. I recommend those that did not see ask Fox to replay the show. One full half hour on Muslims, by the way.

#87 nachtwacht: Thanks for the info! I miss the Dutch, and liked my brief experience with the country, but am not going back there. Too sad.

#74 hm: You might just be suprised. I think there's a lot of dyed-in-the-wool militarist interventionists, you know, the kind of folks most likely to support saving Europeans from themselves, who won't be on board this time. Who in fact will lobby against wasting American blood and treasure on those so unappreciative of it, or the freedoms, safety and prosperity we helped them achieve.

Its going to have to be a clear-cut choice of Europe going full-fledged caliphate before my self-interest meter will be pegged. Until then, let one anti-American anti-Western faction slash and burn each other in the streets. Because the last thing I'd ever want is to be perceived as a unilateralist, colonialist, warmongering cowboy trying to impose democracy from the barrel of a gun and failing to see that killing the enemy only makes them stronger. I'll be one hardcore Europhile, recommending we appoint a commission to gather data to supply a roundtable with information to raise awareness to expand the dialogue so we can hold a conference to explore diplomacy and start a forum to look at the options of visualizing world peace. Because that's how problems get solved.

Things will have to be much more gruesome than most realize to get us over there in force. But don't worry, I'm sure Europe's brother lefties here in the States will head on over to help out with the fighting freelance. On whose side, this I cannot say. Whomever seems most likely to be the ones handing out gubment checks after the dust settles is my bet.

#92 Litchy

It means forced or coherced in Hebrew.

OT

In other entertainment news,

Oliver Stone's homoerotic blockbuster "Alexander the Mediocre" opened in sixth place($13.5m),based on box office sales.

1.National Treasure $33.1m
2.The Incredibles $24.1m
3.Christmas with the Kranks $22.7m
4.Polar Express $20.1m
5.Spongebob Squarepants,The Movie $17.7m

Bwahahahahahahahahaha

#95 A-Z

Actually, "la'anos" in Hebrew is also "to rape", so "anus" could also be (literally) raped.

ok i get it but according to the left guess who is to blame

Seeing all four segments together gives the piece punch! I guess FOX was doing a CYA by breaking the message up into four segments but it's a shame because it has far more impact seen all in one as I just viewed it.

#91 composmentis

Read the Umdat in a week? Excellent- I'm impressed, it's an approachable translation. But it's also 1,232 pages... ;)

Note to LGFrs: composmentis gets the coveted 'Lizard of the Day' award, due to buying the Umdat al-Salik, and for generally boning up on islam. His/her quest for knowledge of islam is commendable.

I predict a run on Bat Ye'or's Eurabia in Q1-05.

-> #85 Beagle

And yes, it's allowed to sell sex in Sweden - but not to buy, anymore

Eh? The police arrest clients of prostitutes but not prostitutes?

Exactely. Rather odd.

Bush does pretty well with Moderaterna and Krisdemokraterna (Moderates and Christian Democrats?). Are those the biggest parties?

You are right about the names - 'Moderates' (freer economy/lower taxes) and 'Christian Democrats' (family values) - however, the ruling 'Social Democrats' has 40%, and the largest opposition party 'Moderates' only 20%... The other five parties have 5-10% each.

Swedish 'Social Democrats' are parlamentary supported by 'the Green Party' (Miljöpartiet), and 'the Left Party' (former? Communists). It's organization is btw close connected to the gigantic labour union "LO"...

Sad, but true - the non-socialists has only been in power for a total of nine (9!) years in modern time =/

One more thing - you actually wrote "Crisis Democrats" in Swedish (Krisdemokraterna, instead of KrisTdemokraterna).
That's exactely what the Swedish newspaper headlines are calling them, heckling, because of the party's negative trend of lacking support! A common word game here.

Guess it's 1-1 great typos, but mine is still better =)

#93 Pat

While Fox's Eurabia show may have been a disappointment, it's show on America hating, a full hpur, was excellent. I recommend those that did not see ask Fox to replay the show. One full half hour on Muslims, by the way.

That's John Gibson's piece, I imagine. He also wrote the book on Hating America (literally): "Hating America: The New World Sport". I have it, but have yet to read it. Reading Charlie Wilson's War atm.

Every American should watch, and encourage every European to watch, the Fox series on Eurabia. I know that the MSM and their psuedo-intellectual consumers are disgusted by Fox, but we must keep trying to educate them. For example, this past August I was passing through London with Mrs. Cosmo. I was able to prevail upon her to take a Saturday evening stroll with me through Hyde Park near Knightsbridge. She was shocked. The park seemed to be about 85% muslim, with lots of jihad mamas in head-to-toe black sacks. It was a hard glimpse into the future if policies don't change.

As for Eurabia, look for the reversion to their past practices - before they go gently into the good night of sharia, they will begin expulsions. 2005 will be remembered as the founding of OMEC - the Organization of Muslim Exporting Countries.

Of course, I could be wrong...

Testing, testing

#100 Earl

Why didn't you say it was 1,232 pp.?
OK, Week ++++

"He" doesn't deserve Lizard of the Week Award.
Thanks for the kind words.

#103 Rootless Cosmo:

As for Eurabia, look for the reversion to their past practices - before they go gently into the good night of sharia, they will begin expulsions.

Yeah... expulsions. Care to take a second guess?

The various ills and weaknesses so celebrated in European society will not allow them to do expulsions. So the anger and fear will build, and will find another outlet.

Hugh Fitzgerald on Germany.

Ah, yes, the "bridge between Islam and the West" --"a crowd flowed over London Bridge, so many..."

If you build a bridge, will they cross it? And how! Turks, and Kurds, and many many Arabs -- hard for those Westerners to tell them apart, what with all those funny names and scripts. Turkey as a permanent bridge to the E.U. And once there, Turks as members of the E.U. will be free to move about as they wish, to settle down anywhere they wish in the E.U., to build their mosques, their madrasas. Even in countries which, unlike France and unlike Germany, never admitted large numbers of Muslims out of a greedy desire to find cheap labor, and heedless of whether, in the end, what came undeclared, or misunderstood, in the mental baggage of these millions of migrants, would cost the indigenous non-Muslims much, much more. And now France, and Germany, or at least some of the fossilized figures who remain in power, and who cannot admit, to their own people, much less to themselves, that the entire large-scale Muslim migration was a disaster.

Hugh Fitzgerald - Germany?

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