I knew it. It'll be released on a Friday, probably after 5 pm.
A Clinton-esque late Friday document dump.

I predicted this earlier in the week (and am patting myself on the back).

Mr. I'llProveTheyWereTypedOnATypewriteByReproducingThe mOnAComputer.

I remember him.

ATTENTION LIZARDOID MINIONS: NOW HEAR THIS:

VOTE TODAY and tomorrow, and the next day and the next...

Just your friendly morning reminder to add your moral support to the LGF cause.

We are still in third as of this morning behind Powerline and the Corner.

Fake but accurate, baby, fake but freakin' accurate!

/seeBS idiot mode

Well, there's a significant problem with that analysis. There's too many of us who have actually used a typewriter.

Now in another 50 years, that analysis might fly.

Does that mean Mary Mapes' job is safe? Typical late week release to digest the "report" over the weekend (as you say JammieWearingFool) to have it buried. Surprised they didn't come out with it on Christmas Eve.

the man is a jack ass. I used to work in a print shop and I spotted the thing being a MS Word doc the second I saw it.

Excellent article on FrontPage.com today...James Woolsey
speech about democracy in Arab world.

Read it all-it's just great.

#6 Uncle Jack

I *think* that there are too many of us getting our news from alternative sources for that to work anymore.

Yes. CBS will use the Hailey Report as their "corroborative" evidence in what I still feel will be a limited Michael Wolfe defense only instead of saying "fake but accurate" they'll say "unproven but accurate." So the whitewash looks total.

There's another possibility, Charles: the professor is releasing the report as a refutation of an anticipated negative report from CBS. In other words, the professor is Mary Mapes' hired gun, trying to refute the irrefutable.

prof. hailey should get back on his freaking comet, and look for another planet to spread his crap.
maybe he and dan could share some orange kool-aid.

Of course CBS will use it. After all it is very authoratative and will vindicate their positions on Bush's inability to lead the country.
Doesn't matter if it stinks and that the research is shoddy.
But I'm sure it will bolster Dr. Hailey's career and help with grants for future research. I'm sure he will have the backing of many prominent democrats for government funding.
Isn't American politcs lovely to behold?
Heh!

Yes I know that there are worse places but it still makes me sick to see what we are becoming.

Captain Ed is reporting a related story, see-BS Has Seen The Enemy, And It Is Us.

## 2
LOLl

Nothing new here with CBS...like a majority of liberals, reality itself is whatever they wish it to be...any uncomfortable truth is quickly inverted...up is down, down is up...dark is light is gray is inscrutable...the moon is made of bleu cheese if they say so...

exact duplicate of a Microsoft Word document, down to the spacing, line breaks, and tab stops ... in 1972

After the pinko left, after the postmodern left, after the first Black and White American President

---ENTER THE BLACK MAGIC LEFT---

Did Prof Hailey actually get any press the first time around? I don't watch the MSM, unless my wife turns on Blather to get my goat.

What's CBS news and who are Dan Rather and Mary Mapes?

/sarcasm

Speaking of people that need to resign, how about this:

URGENT ACTION ALERT - To stop U.S. funding of U.N., pending Kofi Annan resignation,

click here to send this letter to Congressman Roger Wicker (R-MS), sponsor of Congressional Bill H.RES. 869. Copies will be sent to President Bush, Vice President Cheney, Prime Minister Sharon, MK Benjamin Netanyahu, MK Uzi Landau, Congressmen Dennis Hastert (R-IL) and Roy Blunt (R-MO).

Your letter will read as follows. You may change it as you see fit.

Dear Congressman Wicker,

I applaud your initiative in sponsoring H.RES. 869, calling for accountability of Kofi Annan, Secretary General of the U.N. The fact that you already have 59 cosponsors testifies to the indignation of the Congress, representing the outrage of the American taxpayer. We deeply resent our dollars contributing to the lack of transparency, "fraud, mismanagement, and abuse within the United Nations oil-for-food program". The $21.3 billion that is unaccounted for represents criminal negligence, if not complicity, in the greatest financial deception of the century.

Please be assured, Congressman Wicker, that you and the cosponsors of this bill have the full support and gratitude of the American people.

Signed,

Unity Coalition for Israel - December 08, 2004

Background information:
The American public is outraged by the $21.3 billion fraud in the U.N. oil-for-food program. Citizens of the United States, through their tax dollars, provide more than 20% of this amount, which has been diverted to the financing of weaponry used against our military, and support of terrorism by Saddam Hussein. The big losers in this scandal are the Iraqi people who were supposed to receive food and other necessities from this program. There are five Congressional investigations now taking place, but Kofi Annan has not been forthcoming with the necessary records. We appreciate this Congressional bill withholding funding until the records are made public.

Below is a brief summary of the bill (H.RES. 869).

H.RES.869: Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that due to the allegations of fraud, mismanagement, and abuse within the United Nations oil-for-food program, Kofi Annan should resign from the position of Secretary General of the United Nations to help restore confidence that the investigations into those allegations are being fully and independently accomplished.

For details on H.RES. 869 and to check its status, click here

I understand that these memos were done on word. I have yet to see a memo typed on the actual typewriters the Secty said they had, I believe an Olympia and an IBM. It should be quite simple to compare the three and see the difference. Has this been done?

ohpleaseohpleaseohplease. I hope SeeBS fucks it up again.

This is OT to the current thread but hark back a couple days. Remember the thread we had on the Jerusalem Post article citing a German poll finding 50% of Germans equate the IDF with the Nazis?

David Kasper over at Medienkritik is running a thread on the same poll. Hopefully, we'll get some insight into the details of the poll.

#9 SwampWoman

We *think* therefore we are.

You're right when you refer to us, but what about the ones who still look to SeeBS and the others? Ugh.

Last suday night Drudge said the report would be released on Friday. Jeff Fager will get the ax but Mapes and Rather survive. We'll see if he is right.

News anchor slashes own throat with Ockham's razor. Coverup at 11.

And the moonbats will all yell " See See See, we told ya, We told ya. Those documents are real! Never mind what the guys wife and son said, they were real!"

#6 and #9:

The lefties are still using the same old dusty playbook.

They've yet to realize we're smarter than them.

The sure-to-be whitewashed report will be dissected and exposed in rapid-fire fashion.

The MSM has lost its grip on information dissemination, and has no idea where to turn.

They know they're being watched, and don't like it one bit.

Too damn bad.

OT - sorry so early in the thread

This issue with Russia is so much like a blast out of the past to me. I'm afraid this does not bode well, especially for the Russian people.

While Putin is making noises about the United States "acting like a dictator and the West is forcing a flawed vision of democracy on the world" he is also trying to undermine the Iraqi election.

He told Iraq's interim Prime Minister Iyad Allawi at the Kremlin he could not see how a poll could be held while Iraq was under "full occupation".

Yah, the Russians know a lot about "occupation".

Meanwhile, it seems that Putin is strengthening ties with China and India. It was in India where he said that the US was "running a "dictatorship ... beautifally gift-wrapped in pseudo-democratic phraseology" to the detriment of most of the rest of the planet..

I had thought that the communist ideology would weaken as the new generation grew up relatively free. It seems the opposite is happening.

I knew Dapper Dan was a good guy. We should be ashamed of ourselves.

For liberals, it's the seriousness of the charge that matter most.
Never mind the truth and certainly Ocacm's Razor, common sense, technology, and non-biased professionalism. Those take a back seat.
In the leftist bubble-world of CBS, If a non-expert can state what they want to hear, then the real expert WILL be ignored.

1. I want to see this magic typewriter.
2. My guess is that it took modern technology for Hailey to forge the forged. only a lying leftist could achieve that.

It's most interesting how Hailey attempts to "prove" that the algorithm for TrueType fonts was in existence in 1972, and that over 20 years later Apple Computer would come along and simply copy this existing algorithm and license it to the world (including Microsoft, the makers of Microsoft Word, the program used to create the forged documents).

Is this guy Forrest Gump?
 

Somewhat OT:

The Left is suffering further losses every day. Witness poor 60's radical / Weather Underground terrorist Susan Rosenberg, whom has had to turn down the opportunity to teach at New York's Hamilton College due to internal and external protests:

Susan Rosenerg steps down. Protests left college worried about bad publicity

Terrorists and their appeasers are losing!

Break it up...move along folks...Nothing to see here.

/See B.S. Security Guard

I, too, predicted that the whitewash would come down on a Friday afternoon. And now we know what it will say- based on this Professor's "research," these docs "could have been" accurate. Therefore, all Mapes/Rather were guilty of was not getting their "expert reviews" in advance.

Meanwhile, they've planted the seeds to discredit the "right wing bloggers" as "paid tools of the Rove conspiracy," and will just fob off the criticism from this site and elsewhere.

Disgraceful. The unmitigated arrogance is overwhelming.

What a collectivist WHORE! He brings shame and dishonor to Utah State.

Jammiewearingfool,

"They've yet to realize we're smarter than them."

Bad assumption. Can be fatal.

Same old, same old. I'm sure seeBS will use the absent-minded professor's so-called proof. These guys will never learn and the MSM and the left will continue to decline.

#26 shatterglass: That was the funniest thing I have heard in days!

I used a typewriter back in 1972 and I often wished for one that could do superscripts and subscripts without my having to eyeball them. This Hailey guy should be ashamed of himself.

Grrr why cant they just admit that they were FAKE? Why are there no shortage of people willing to make fools of themselves and destroy their reputations to call these hoaxes the real thing?

Guys, chill. Dick Thornburgh (sp?) used to be attorney general and is a Republican; he's one of the two dudes writing the report. He won't let a whitewash report come out. More likely is that this Utah professor is trying a last-gasp effort to refute the inevitable finding that Mapes is either a lying forger or a hopelessly incompetent journalist blinded by bias.

#33 sharona:

That's great news. Her compatriots at Weather Underground were responsible for a plot to blow up the Capitol Building in DC, and for a Brinks armored car robbery that left two cops dead in Nyack NY.

She should never have been pardoned by Clinton.

Is anyone else having trouble loading Hailey's report? Does he identify a specific typewriter model with the ability to produce the memos?

OT: For the It's Hard Not to Hate the French File: French ambassador to Israel criticizes Israel.

OT - Today is the anniversary of the intafada.

INTIFADA BEGINS ON GAZA STRIP: December 9, 1987

I can't get the good professor's site to open to re-read this thing. But I plowed through it the first time. He used a digitized version of the typewriter font, on his computer. He admits having to stretch or compress lines to get them to match up.

Of course, all this talk of fonts misses the main point. Even if they were typed on a 70s era typewriter, that in no way comes close to even thinking about considering about contemplating about pondering about being proof that they are "real."

If I write something with a quill and fax it from Abilene, is that enough to prove I have documents from George Washington?

OT: AirAmerika isn't dead yet according to this.

"Air America has created the hottest new brand on radio, offering some of the most dynamic personalities and programming found anywhere on the radio dial," said Glaser, who led the latest funding round and has been an investor in the company nearly since its inception.

Hottest?

I have to agree. Plentiful amounts of hot-aired bullshit.

Its this simple...

The document has been reproduced with a computer...

If it is NOT a forgery, produce it on a computer.

Period.

End of discussion.

CBS would be foolish to quote Mr. Hailey. First the bloggers would hit it...then Drudge...then Fox News...then inevitably the other news vultures (all except CBS) could eat of the remains.

#47 WriterMom

The part about the Israeli cabbies throwing the French out of their cabs is hilarious.

And the visuals that are evoked are even better!

correction

If it is not a forgery...produce it on a TYPEWRITER!

#38 Bob With One O,

OK, my imperial hubris may someday lead to my downfall, and perhaps an IQ of 124 doesn't qualify me for the Einstein prize, but I do know this: I'm not dumb enough to risk my career using badly forged documents.

In my book, that ranks me higher on the intellectual foodchain than Rather, Mapes, et al.

I always wondered where he went, the nutty professor moved to Utah State. Maybe now he will get his dream job at MIT.

Bah, DNCBS has already announced that Rather's staying on, to leave "at the time of his choosing," and will continue to work there as a highly-positioned and "respected journalist." At least the report will open them up to another round of pummeling.

Now the media folks who want CBS to be accountable for their fraud ought to get on this story and pronto. "We're positive CBS is going to try and bury their internal investigation, a sure sign of having something to hide. It will be released either this Friday or next, to minimize the chances of anyone hearing about or discussing it." Just keep repeating this to build interest in the cover-up, point out just what they'll be doing with a late Friday release.

Charles,

Is it permitted to post quotes from his report HERE as one would a news article or would that be a violation of copyright laws that could get you into trouble?

Thank you

Jesse Jackson is rabble rousing again. What an a$$.

The "Electoral College should be abolished," Jackson asserted.

He then went on to threaten:

Jackson threatened to recruit left wing filmmaker Michael Moore for the election fraud debate if a formal congressional investigation is not launched. "I urge Congress to act before Michael Moore comes and exposes the violation and the capitulation again," Jackson said to applause. Moore directed "Fahrenheit 9/11," the Bush-bashing film that electrified liberals and enraged conservative backers of the president during this year's campaign.

He means before MM creates another fake documentary doesn't he.

These people are so pathetic.

#52 papijoe

I like this part-from Eli Yatzpan, the comedian-and he is really hilarious...

"The patrons of the Arab states always know everything. They preach morality to everyone, perhaps because they know French and English, so it sounds better. Definitely not- it sounds like shit!"

So THAT explains it...

I'm sorry but I feel a little yucky talking about seeBC. It's just more of the same- who's suprised? And who the hell cares what rats get left on this sinking ship?!

#61-- I believe "doofus" is also acceptable...

#50, I read that piece about DeadAirAmerika. They actually call Al Frankenberry a "humorist".

When was the last time he said anything funny?

I assumed DAA was just going to be around thru the election, but alas, like most things liberal, it appears they will overstay their welcome.

But really, they're so insignificant, it's not worth commenting on after this.

I see Al-Reuters reported that.

Figures.

#47 writer mom

I heard the interview on the radio this morning. That French ambassador is a nutcake. I don't recall French flags being burned in Israel, demonstrations at their embassies or anti-French graffiti (though they deserve all three). One not very funny comedian and a quasi journalist with good hair and a father with connections called the French shits and he's whining.

Its not like an Israeli diplomat called France a "shitty little country" or anything like that.

Let him know what you think...

Dr. David Hailey, Utah State University

email = dhailey@english.usu.edu

#60 WriterMom

Having the French lecture you on morals is almost as funny as asking their advice on personal hygiene

#66 amir

Israel is being way to restrained with Frawnce anyway. Especially so soon after their particularly despicable love-orgy with Arafat's funeral send off decomposition festival-they have no (frog's) legs to stand on.

Sarah D,

Why would the commies weaken there when they have such admiring friends here (LLL- MSM)? Putin plays a decent game of payback and his Ukraine fiasco, on the heels of Beslan, have him very motivated.

To all,

Until the bodies are in the grave, celebrations are premature. Something about a cornered enemy being the most dangerous.

OT

Looks like Hillary isn't necessarily the Dems sweetheart anymore.

Hillary, you've got some 'fessing up to do!

But more important to us is when will we have a presidential candidate not shaped in the Al Gore and John Kerry mold?

Having seen what happened to those losers, we believe Democrats should recognize that this play-it-safe strategy is a recipe for broad-scale disaffection, if not disaster.

No Democratic Party candidate can expect the fervor of the party's progressive base if he or she doesn't acknowledge the evil the Bush administration has done in Iraq.

It should have been the moral issue of the 2004 campaign. And whatever happens between now and 2008, Iraq will be central to our response. That means, as of now, we see you as a threat rather than a hope. And, as the bluest of the blue, we'll do what we can to make this message resonate among all Democrats nationwide.

I needed a good laugh this morning!

_{[BTW - sorry for the red, but bold doesn't seem to work for me anymore here.]}

#50 zonekeeper

Michael Medved refers to Air Amerika as "Dead Air Amerika!"

Oy vey. This subject brought me here, all on fire to join so I could post that the memos were obvious fakes. I was so happy to see I had plenty of company, and Charles put the nails in the coffin. (I worked for the feds in the 70s, and we used Royals.)

I am just glad no one with a modicum of devious brains set out to forge memos. We had Selectrics for special use at work as recently as 6 years ago, and many Royals are still around (they are tough buggers). I had a little Olivetti that I sold some years ago that was still in perfect working order (and very pretty). Glad the bad guys didn't have one too.

lawhawk:

She should never have been pardoned by Clinton.

Amen to that. I'm hard pressed, however, to find anyone Clinton pardoned who actually merited the commutation. More and more, it would appear that Clinton's pardons will dominate any future discussions as to his legacy, especially in light of the truly nefarious Marc Rich.

#69 writer mom

A little background is necessary to understand the French Ambassadors comments. On Wednesday, the French ambassador gave JPost an interview where he said thatIsrael has shown constraint in its war against terrorism since 2000. Israeli foreign minister Silvan Shalom thanked him for his comments. This got the French foreign desk fuming so they issued a retraction and denial of his statement, and than said his statement was taken out of context. Imagine that, a frenchy saying something positive about Israel. The ambassador may even have been punished or reprimanded. So the ambassador apparently felt he had to have his anti-Israel credentials re-established, thus his comments about Israel today.

FM praises French envoy's comments

#65 JammieWearingFool,

In my opinion, Al Franken reached the pinnacle of his career in "Trading Places". The doofus Amtrak baggage handler fit him to a "T".

Does anyone stop to wonder where we'd be right now if Mapes and Rather had even a hint of intelligence and had gone to ebay and bought a $5 IBM Selectric to type this "memo"?

Thank heavens they are so freaking stupid.

#75 amir

Yes, I read about that. I think it's really a misguided policy to worry about anything that French people think. Unless, you just want to confirm that by thinking the exact opposite-you are a moral person.

The spin is already ringing in my ears..

"Experts disagree on the documents authenticity..."

The hubris of the Sardonic Eye will be with us a while longer I'm afraid.

Charles, why dont u put the animated gif and link to Newcomer's analyses back up at the top of the page?

The gif on its own is enough proof for most people, and it'll be so humiliating for CBS to continue trying to perpetuate their lies, when your animation so easily rubbishes them just by looking at it.

Get the other blogs to link to the gif and analyses as well, so everyone can see what lying, devious scumbags exist at CBS.

Why do you think that they paid Thornburg to do this report? The whole point of paying a guy like that is to purchase his credibility and reputation, which I am sure did not come cheap. They didn't hire him for his expertise in font analysis now did they? He is a shield designed to deflect questions about CBS's own lack of credibility and integrity. It will work for a lot of people too. The defense will run something like this "how can you seriously ask such a question when no less an authority with unimpeachable integrity like Dick Thornburg has determined that . . . ". That will be enough to cow any MSM reporter, who is already sympathetic to CBS, from asking -- let alone pursuing -- any really hard question or fact embarrassing to CBS.

#53 song_and_dance_man:

Thanks.

And the moonbats will all yell " See See See, we told ya, We told ya.

Has any one checked KOS et al to see if they are?

#74:

I am hard pressed to find anyone ever pardoned who deserved it. The concept of the executive pardon has always been an abomination.

## 80-81
dido

#6 Uncle Jack -- "Does that mean Mary Mapes' job is safe?"

It's never been in doubt. CBS didn't commission this report to justify canning her or Dan or any number of others. They could have done that on the basis of what was publicly revealed (including the admitted connection between CBS, DNC and that former ARMY National Guard smear machine from Texas). The Report was commissioned to protect them.

The rest of the MSM will join in the defense of CBS. They have to for they know that they are all as idealogically driven and biased as CBS and that it might just as easily have been them in the spotlight. So, they will join CBS's war on the blogosphere. Blogs represent an economic threat to the MSM and a greater threat to their unchallenged stranglehold on the dissemination of their leftist anti-American propaganda.

We are in for another scrap.

this damn keyboard cant spell,

80, 81 Ditto

He used a program that produced everything that a monospaced typewriter would do except for the KERNING! No way could that be produced by any monospaced typewriter in 1972.

thank you song and dance, im going to burn this flipping keyboard;>
lol

Charles,
I second (third, fourth or whatever) the idea to repost the memo gifs and the link to Dr. Newcomers site.

The timing of this whole matter is hideously inappropriate. This is the Christmas season. All of this should be put off until the spring of next year nearer Easter. Rising from the dead and all that.

CCR,

Gerald Ford's pardon of Richard Nixon. It can be argued that the pardon was for the good of the country.

#76, I actually saw that bit while channel surfing the other day.
Franken looked like an idiot back then. Now he's just an older idiot.

I really have to question the sanity of anyone sinking money down
that rathole. Must be Soros footing the tab. Franken should pay them to be on the air.

Jackson threatened to recruit left wing filmmaker Michael Moore for the election fraud debate if a formal congressional investigation is not launched.

Jackson is a fool--without the EC, BUSH STILL WON THE 2004 ELECTION!

In "honor" of the release of "Doctor" Hailey's "analysis," I humbly offer a repost of a little ditty (with a few edits) from a few months ago...

To the tune of 50 Way to Leave Your Lover

The problem is all inside your head
She said to me
The answer is easy if you
Ignore logic completely
I’d like to help you identify the custom key
There must be fifty ways
To forge the letters

She said it’s really not my habit
To invent
Furthermore, I hope my meaning
Won’t be lost on the LGF malcontents
But I’ll repeat myself
Because the Composer
Requires it for proportional indent
There must be fifty ways
To forge the letters
Fifty ways to forge the letters

You hype up the dross, Kos
Make a new plan, Dan
You don't need a decoy, boys
Just get an Microsoft Word copy
Cut and paste the typeface, Dave
We won't notice to who's campaign you gave
Just type out the keys, Ceebs
And let your cred bleed

She said it grieves me so
To see that damn superscript
I wish there was something I could do
So Ra^ther wouldn't have to quit
I said I appreciate that
Then I turned my head and spit
About the fifty ways

She said why don’t we both
Just sleep on it tonight
And I believe in the morning
You’ll begin to see the light
But put on my lizard jammies
Shook my head, and told her take a hike
There must be fifty ways
To expose the forgers
Fifty ways to expose the forgers

O/T

UN uses Ottoman tolerance concept as model

At a UN seminar, the tolerance that Ottomans showed to people of different religions was held up as an example to be adapted even today

At a United Nations (UN) seminar, the tolerance that Ottomans showed to people of different religions was held up as an example to be adapted even today. The Ottoman social model in which different religion and nations lived under the same roof for hundreds of years

"There is no 1942 in the Islamic world nor is there an Auscwitz."During World War II, nearly 15,000 Jews were killed by Nazis at Auschwitz,

WTF!

Well Over 2 Million people died at Aucschwitz!

What about the "freaking" Armenian Genocide !

The UN and Kofi Annan is publically engaged in promoting Holocaust denial and Islamic Historic Revisionist bull sh*T!

Quote Kofi:

Annan said in his opening speech that there is a stereotype that Arabs represent the entire Islamic world while in fact the most populous Muslim countries are non-Arab. He used Indonesia and Turkey as examples.

Does Kofi Mean the Indonesian continuing acts of Genocide ?

Or the Indonesian's "peaceful" massacres upon hundreds of thousands of Christians!

The Secretary-General noted that as is the case in all other religions, modernists and conventionalists exist in the Islamic world and he described Islam as a rich belief that has been separated from its essence by the behavior of some. He added that some people claim Islam and democracy do not get along or that Islam contradicts with modernity and women's rights. Prejudice grows when groups let their misconceptions about Muslims be expressed, Annan said.

THIS GOING TO BECOME MATTER OF PUBLIC RECORD AND THE UN AND IT'S ISLAMIC CRONIES ARE GOING TO GET AWAY WITH THIS HISTORIC REVISIONIST CRAP !

Has anybody else managed to see the last page of Hailey's report? It took forever to load (at least 45 minutes), but after 3 hours or so, I still cannot read the conclusion.

fiery celt,

Ask the Armenians how well they were treated by the Ottoman Empire.

#98 fiery celt

Revising history in front of your eyes. But you've already spiked that into the ground. Throw in Cyprus, Turkish prisons, and an asterisk which notes Muslim 'tolerance' ended in the medieval period. It's backtracked from the earlier medieval position to a more conservative position, pushed by the Salafi - Wahhabi - Saudi (our allies in the War on Terror^TM) Muslims .

(my email to the dr. just now)

Dr. David Hailey, dhailey at english.usu.edu

That you have no understanding what an embarassment your report is to anyone seriously debating this topic, is a real statement to your ineptitude.

Its clear you wanted John F'ing Kerry to be elected, to the tune of $250.

Contributor HAILEY, DAVID RICHMOND,UT 84333
Occupation UTAH STATE UNIVERSITY/ASSOCIATE PRO
Date 5/25/2004
Amount $250
Recipient Kerry, John

Its clear the methodolgy and procedures you followed to get to the conclusion that the memos were real is flawed beyond laughable. Go to this link, which I know you won't, because you have no interest in reality. But on the off chance you do go to the link, have you no shame ?

[Link: www.flounder.com...]

In closing. Your candidate lost Dr. You chose to perpetrate a fraud and you have been filleted. Now get back to staring at college age ass and leave the big world outside your inner monkey alone. Beotch.

Danny
--
.:And the meek shall inherit storage fees:.

#62 rickadams

That is somecomputer! It reminds me of high school when we learned FORTRAN in physics. I hated punch cards, the backspace was a godsend for me.

I also typed on a variety of typewriters, both manual and electric. I could never create a document as perfect as TANG memos. Until a typewriter is found that can create those documents as produced by CBS, all they are doing is blowing smoke up their own a**es. No one will believe it. CBS is just rearranging the deck chairs of their own Titanic. Let's check back in 5 years and see if MSM media news is nothing more than a politicized Entertainment Tonight. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

There are two IBM typewriters (c1959-c.1980) at my office. One is a Selectric III, and the other one is a "Typebar" Model C. I just bought another Typebar Model D (c.1967), for the woman I work with - her old one died a few months back. I used a c.1973 IBM up until 1990. If it weren't for Charles, and others, the world would not have known how fake those were. Why can't some of these "experts" give up?

Everyone, it seems, has missed the astounding blockbuster conclusion here! If you read all of Newcomer's paper to the very end, you see the spellbinding image of the ^th from the original CBS docs, blown up to monster size. And it is clearly a swastika! That's right, gang, the memos prove that Bush really is Hitler!

cathy :-)

#98 Fiery Celt

That is truly disgusting! Who the f is this Iranian philosopher Professor Seyyid Huseyin Nasr, and where does he teach?! And who the f is this writer of the article Emrah Ulker?! This deserves a letter writing campaign, to the UN, to the Turkish paper that published it. (If the Iranian professor teaches at an Iranian university, it's probably not worth the bother.)

David Hailey's online resume

What led CBS to think this guy was a typographical expert?

OT some good news:

Taliban-chopped idols in Kabul Museum

Taliban-chopped idols in Kabul Museum
Kabul December 08, 2004

A collection of pre-Islamic wooden idols chopped up by the Taliban in 2001 in their drive for a pure Muslim state is back on display in Afghanistan after being restored in a project financed by the Austrian government.
...
The idols come from Kafiristan-literally "Land of the Infidels"-a near legendary region of the majestic Hindu Kush mountain range straddling the borders of eastern Afghanistan and northwestern Pakistan.

Kafiristan - how nice of the pan-Islamic world to let us kufr have our own plot of land! I think I'll go there on my next vacation.

If I were a Ph.D., I'd be seriously concerned that people would start questioning the market value of a Ph.D.'s research if this were the prime example considering that a high-school student could have produced better and more believable work.

Went to kos to see what they have to say on the Hailey story and it's not mentioned. Maybe on some threads OT, I'm not that interested to find out but apparently even the moonbats know this is BS.

moobats chant : "La La La La La I can't hear you!"

From Hailey's departmental self-review document:

In 1992, the department reported that the two major strengths of the faculty were in teaching and service/collegiality. The major weakness of the faculty was uncertainty about research, which stemmed from some uncertainty about promotion/tenure criteria.

Well, Hailey's report certainly "promotes" him. As for the quality of his research...

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Er, sorry, link

Queen Esther, Beagle and Bob with an O.

Typical Islamist revisionism---

Only 15,000 Jews were killed in Auschwitz, so the rest of the Holocaust must be assumed to be a lie.

The UN and Kofi Annan,...and the so called "journalist" who authored this tripe, lets this fallacious figure go unchallenged.
In the future, because it has become a matter of public record, this figure will be cited again and again until it is believed as a truth.

Therefore the Jews are lying about the holocaust.

Islam is peaceful...

The Ottomans were peaceful and tolerant---
Indonesians Muslims are peaceful and tolerant---

...and any mention of the Armenian genocides, Indonesian genocides, Cyprian massacres or massacres in East Timor are all exaggerations and propaganda by the Americans and a Zionist Conspiracy...

The good professor is nothing if not loyal to the cause. I hope he's getting well paid for making an ass of himself.

So what has Hailey proven?

That given a computer and enough time, you can fake a document that look a lot like another document that was faked on a computer.

Gee, I bet he could easily get a government reasearch grant to continue that work...

The document used by cBS is a forgery, as in "a lie", not/not the truth. In a (red state) court of law, Rather and cBS could be held accountable and put in prison. Despite every evil means used against him, BUSH/BUSH WON (fair and square). What part of "Bush won" do the DUmbs not understand?

If CBS tries to weasel their way out of this one without even admitting the memos are fake, and they actually get away with it, then that's the last straw. I'll never believe another damn thing they (or ABCCNNMSNBCBBCblahblah) say again, for as long as I draw breath on this earth. I have ABSOLUTELY HAD IT WITH THEIR BULLSHIT.

Many of them are doing damn near everything in their power to either seize political power or to make us lose this war. I will return the favor, with interest.

Many of them are doing damn near everything in their power to either seize political power or to make us lose this war. I will return the favor, with interest.

That is the Idea---

TAKING THE RED PILL"
THE REAL MATRIX, PART 1

---Part 2
---Part 3
---Part 4
---Part 5
---Part 6
---Part 7

...long read---Well worth it...

Look up any of the events or organizations cited be the author-

--Make sure you really want to take the "Red Pill"---

#119:

Eh, I lost it part way into the second page. Sounded like standard conspiracy theory jibber-jabber. Granted, there is conspiring going on in the world today, but its a hell of alot less effective than that kind of paranoia.

That, and like hell is The Matrix the most thought-provoking movie in recent memory. Just in terms of virtual worlds, The Thirteenth Floor has it beat hands down.

Some typography expert!

Notice:

Tthe words "Council for Programs in Technical and Scientific Communication (CPTSC)" are kerned very tightly for no apparent reason.

He doesn't right justify the page numbers on the Table of Contents, which would give a more polished look.

Worst of all, he leaves two spaces after each period eventhough that was only required in the days of typewriters and if done in a word processing program, actually makes text look more awkward (as the software has already calculated the correct space to insert after a period.)

General sloppiness like the run-on "November1963", the awkward "5-1/4”", and the sloppy " "9" are simplified and the “”W” and “R” " (where different styles of quotes are used in the same sentence for no apparent reason).

Authentic? Ha Ha Ha, Chuckle, Chortle, Har, Har, Snork, Ho Ho Ho, Hee Hee Hee, Aaaa! I just got coke up my nose.

Hey, everyone, lighten up! Smell the rotten roses (and read Bailey's last few pages holding your nose).

He tried to create a reproduction with a font he invented called "Typewriter". But he forgot to write the superscript "th" that originally blew the cover on the whole fraud conspiracy.

He also adds so many caveats that he has beaucoup cover when the blogs cut him a new one and he has to finally cry "Uncle (Ho)".

This isn't over. If CBS attempts to float this bonehead as the definitive expert, they're gonna get clobbered. It's up to us PajaMarines (unfortunately, not my title for those of us decked out in our combat, camo bunny slippers - some other loveable smart-a** got to that one first) to nail this guy and anyone who touches his work.

TRANSCRIPT OF A RECORDING OF A MEETING
BETWEEN THE PRESIDENT OF CBS LES MOONVES AND DAN RATHER ON DECEMBER 9, 2004

PRESIDENT: Hi, Dan, how are you?
DAN: Good morning. Good morning.
PRESIDENT: Sit down. Sit down. Trying to get my remarks ready to (unintelligible) the building trades.
DAN: So I understand.
PRESIDENT: Yes, indeed, yeah. You know, I was thinking we ought to get the odds and ends, uh (unintelligible) we talked, and, uh, it was confirmed that--you remember we talked about resignations and so forth and so on--that I should have in hand, not to be released...
DAN: Uh huh.
PRESIDENT: but I should have in hand something, or other wise they'll say, "What the hell did you-- after Dan told you all of this, what did you do?" You see what I mean?
DAN: Uh huh.
PRESIDENT Now I talked to Heyward, uh about, uh, about the thing, and I said, "Now, uh, what do you want to do about, uh, about this situation on Dan, and so forth?" And he said, "Well", he said, "I,” he said, "I would do n--, I, I don't want to announce anything; now." You know what I mean?
DAN: Uh huh.
PRESIDENT: But what is your feeling on that?
DAN: (Clears throat)
PRESIDENT: See what I mean?
DAN: Are we talking Dan, or are we talking Dan, Heyward and Mapes?
PRESIDENT: Well, I'm talking Dan...
DAN: Dan.
PRESIDENT: ...at this moment.
DAN: All right.
PRESIDENT: Dan at this moment, because you're going to be, uh, you, you're going to be doing it. I'll have to handle them, also. But, the point is, what's your advice that we-- You see, the point is, we, we don't have-- I Just, I just got it, I just typed up a couple, Just to have here which I'd be willing to put out. You know...
DAN: Uh huh.
PRESIDENT: in the event that, uh, certain things occurred.
DAN: I understand.
PRESIDENT: But you see, put the, uh, the, put, just putting the--you don't want to put any lies into it. Uh (unintelligible). What's your advice?
DAN: I think, I think it'd be the--good to have it on hand.
PRESIDENT: Yeah.
DAN: I would think, to be very honest with you-...
PRESIDENT: Have those others, too?
DAN: Have those others, also.
PRESIDENT: Yeah, yeah. I will. Well as a matter of fact, they both su--, suggested it for themselves.
DAN: Uh huh.
PRESIDENT: So I got that, uh--I am sorry, Steve, I hit the wrong bell.
DAN: (Laughs)
PRESIDENT: So I've already done that with them.
DAN: All right.
PPESIDENT: So they said, "Look, uh, they're ready any time you want them." I've got that. Now I want to get your advice on that, too, So what I would, now what I would think we want to do, we should have it in two different forms, here. We should have it--and I, should like to discuss with you the forms. It seems to me that your, the form should be, uh, uh, request an immediate indefinite leave of absence. That'd be one thing. And the other, of course, would be, uh, just a straight resignation.
DAN: Uh huh.
PRESIDENT: Uh, first, uh, what I would suggest is that you sign both. That's what I had in mind. And then we'll talk about after, uh, because you don't know yet what you're going-- For example, you could go on and plead guilty. You'd have to resign.
DAN: That's right.
PRESIDENT: If, on the other hand, you're going on, uh, on a, some other basis, then I think a leave of absence is then
DAN: Uh huh.
PRESIDEMT: the proper thing to do.
DAN: I would think so.
PRESIDENT: And, uh, that's the way I would discuss it with, uh, with others, too. But if you have any other thoughts, let me know. I'm not trying to press you on a thing. Just, I Just want to be sure, Dan, you've got the record, that you're, you're, uh, so that I've done everything that I (clears throat) (unintelligible). Do you agree?
DAN: Uh, I, I think it's a good idea. I frankly do.
PRESIDENT: Yeah.

FOR THE OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT:Dan's tapes

You all are missing something: This report hasn't even been completed yet, and it won't be completed until December 3rd of next year. Talk about CYA...

:)

Norm

?Hailey's Comic is about to be released.

the Mormon slant

all my football friends here might not realize how completely fitting it is, that the MOST Uber of the liberal frothing dogs should come from the U of Utah. If you recall, we Mormon-dominated states gave Bush his biggest margin of victory in the USA. In the presence of all those American-loving Eagle Boy Scouts the liberals are polarized to almost cartoonish extremes. While something like 60-70% is Mormon, the rest of it is insane.

munga