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Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 11:34:12 am PST

Following up on yesterday’s post about the highly disturbing tribute to the Ayatollah Khomeini that took place last weekend in North Texas, here’s a recent article by Robert Spencer that illustrates why we should be very concerned when we see open support for the Khomeini ideology: Khomeini in Dearborn.

As Khomeini himself put it: “Islam makes it incumbent on all adult males, provided they are not disabled or incapacitated, to prepare themselves for the conquest of countries so that the writ of Islam is obeyed in every country in the world....But those who study Islamic Holy War will understand why Islam wants to conquer the whole world.”

The goal of this conquest would be to establish the hegemony of Islamic law. As Khomeini put it: “What is the good of us [i.e., the mullahs] asking for the hand of a thief to be severed or an adulteress to be stoned to death when all we can do is recommend such punishments, having no power to implement them?”

Khomeini accordingly delivered notorious rebuke to the Islam-is-a-religion-of-peace crowd: “Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. Those [who say this] are witless. Islam says: Kill all the unbelievers just as they would kill you all! Does this mean that Muslims should sit back until they are devoured by [the unbelievers]? Islam says: Kill them, put them to the sword and scatter [their armies].... Islam says: Whatever good there is exists thanks to the sword and in the shadow of the sword! People cannot be made obedient except with the sword! The sword is the key to Paradise, which can be opened only for the Holy Warriors! There are hundreds of other [Qur’anic] psalms and Hadiths [sayings of the Prophet] urging Muslims to value war and to fight. Does all this mean that Islam is a religion that prevents men from waging war? I spit upon those foolish souls who make such a claim.”

There’s more; read the whole thing. (And Getty Images has photos of Dearborn Muslims carrying portraits of the Ayatollah in November.)

Meanwhile, one of the Muslim leaders who spoke at the Khomeini tribute on Saturday claims he was completely unaware of the purpose of the event: U.S. Muslim event hails Khomeini.

A Dallas-area Muslim leader who has been honored for his civil-rights work told WorldNetDaily he spoke at the day-long seminar in Irving, Texas, and heard a couple of other speakers.

But Mohammad Elibiary claimed he was not aware of the event’s general theme and “tribute” to Khomeini.

In a phone conversation yesterday, WND directed him to an ad for the seminar posted on the Metroplex Organization of Muslims in North Texas website, which includes a photo of Khomeini alongside a message speaking of “Islamic revolution.”

[Editor’s Note: Since the publishing of this story, the Muslim group has removed the page. The link goes to a Google, cached version.]

The leader of Iran’s Islamic revolution in 1979, Khomeini famously viewed the U.S. as the “Great Satan.”

Elibiary — known for his Muslim lobby and vote-mobilization efforts as president of the Plano, Texas-based Freedom and Justice Foundation — stated that this was the first time he had seen the flyer.

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1 Furious J  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 9:38:20am
Since the publishing of this story, the Muslim group has removed the page. The link goes to a Google, cached version.]

Watch the cockroaches scuttle away from the light again.

2 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 9:39:21am

Religion of peace, right?

Do the words "the enemy within" mean anything?

3 elevenbravo1969  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 9:40:41am

Gotta get rid of these cats. Send 'em back where they came from. Now.

4 Abu Maven  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 9:44:09am

OT: Has anyone read either Surprise, Security and the American Experience by Gaddis or Rise of the Vulcans by Mann. I remember the former being discussed positively on LGF and the latter was just recommended to me a LLL friend who said it altered his thinking of the "neo-cons", in particularly Wolfowitz. Frankly, he seemed impressed with Wolfowitz after reading the book.

Also, any thoughts on Secret War Against the Jews by John Loftus?

Thanks in advance.

5 Ojoe  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 9:44:52am

This info and these qutes need to be on the front page of every newspaper in America and we need to fight this war like we fought WW2: Pull out all the stops and win. Delay costs lives.

6 RebTex  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 9:45:20am

El Library's answer is as ridiculous as the major league base ball players saying they didn't know they were taking steroids!

7 Sean  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 9:45:31am

I got into trouble with the teachers at my school for saying, "Nuke Iran!" in 1979-1981.

If Joseph Powers ever reads this blog:
Eat me! I was right! MUN taught me how evil the real UN is!

8 Poitiers-Lepanto  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 9:46:00am

They are here.
They work every day for their goals.
They are heavily funded.
They openly say they want to destroy our way of life.
When they will be millions or tens of millions we will be doomed. And "we" is the Freedom of the Western Civilization, the ONLY Freedom ever seen in the World.

And no politician has the balls to state the problem.

9 TimK  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 9:46:06am

I am forwarding this article on.
Yesterday I received an e-mail from a liberal friend with some insights into Islam being very dangerous. Some of the information that we have seen posted at LGF is starting to get out.
Muslims have lived in such an information restricted areas for so long that it will come as a surprise when vast numbers of people in the West know the truth about what garbage islam is and stop showing any respect for it.

10 Necklace of Shoes  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 9:46:16am

I don't know what's more ridiculous. This sword crap or having to sell a dead animal you just banged in the next town over while the guy in the next town over is selling the animal he just banged in yours. All's I know is there are halal meat shops in my area and I ain't touching nothing.

11 stefania  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 9:46:31am

Charles,

I heard from a friend , that there might be a mass protest by Iranian-Americans in front of the offices of this Muslim "charity"

Friends in Iran have complained how is that these "people" are allowed to operate in the US , knowing that they are funded DIRECTLY by the Islamic Regime...

12 Ojoe  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 9:46:39am

"these QUOTES". Going too fast. The temptation of a low number. Sorry.

13 On the Mark  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 9:47:37am

Anyone associated with or promoting Khomeini is so obviously an enemy of the U.S...I shudder to think they are even IN this country.

14 pookleblinky  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 9:51:49am
“Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. Those [who say this] are witless.

he he. The chicken-fucker himself insults moonbats.

15 wrathofg-d  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 9:53:53am

FREE AMERICA-ISTAN

The United States of the Islamic Republic will rise.

//

Watch as the Palestinistization of America begins.

So what if they carry signs of Arafat & Khomeini, & these two individuals work for & desire the destruction of America...Now does that really make the individuals traitors? or a security threat?...I mean seriously...

16 Eric MN  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 9:54:47am

but, but, but... if we're nice to them, they will be nice to us.

/moonbat

17 Super Fly  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 9:56:25am

Islam is all about power. Mohommed was all about power. The Mullah's are all about power. Bin laden is all about power. It's an insult to call it a religions. It's nothing more than a cult dedicated to fascist ideology.

Islam is the ultimate power play.

18 Furious J  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 9:56:54am

#7 Sean -

I got into trouble with the teachers at my school for saying, "Nuke Iran!" in 1979-1981.

And in 2004, my kid got a three-day suspension for saying, "Half the people in the Middle East are named Mohammed."

19 RebTex  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 9:57:38am

Maybe we could get Janet Reno out of retirement...
send her(?) to Irving to rectify this little problem!

20 susanita  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 9:58:56am

Islam says: Whatever good there is exists thanks to the sword and in the shadow of the sword! People cannot be made obedient except with the sword!

And the sword belongs to the USA!
Wow, I agree with Islam.
Now I wish I could explain this to the UN and moonbats.

21 Poitiers-Lepanto  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 9:59:16am

#14 Pookleblinky

The chicken-fucker

That is allowed by islam.
They are so low and base that offending them is difficult.

22 Super Fly  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:00:41am

Carlos the Jackal pledges alliance to Osama bin Laden

He has just published a book in French to announce his conversion to Islam and present his strategy for "the destruction of the United States through an orchestrated and persistent campaign of terror." Entitled "Revolutionary Islam" (Editions du Rocher, 2003) and published under the name Ilich Ramírez Sánchez-CARLOS, the book urges "all revolutionaries, including those of the left, even atheists," to accept the leadership of Islamists such as Osama bin Laden and so help turn Afghanistan and Iraq into the "graveyards of American imperialism."
Carlos had also concluded that the United States could not be destroyed by any military rival. What was needed was a campaign of terror that would separate the United States from its allies and then destroy its self-confidence. This campaign would require a large number of volunteers ready both to kill and to die for the cause. Carlos saw that only revolutionary Islam could recruit the large numbers of killers and martyrs necessary to destroy the United States.
Carlos claims that terrorism is "the cleanest and most efficient form of warfare." By killing civilians, he argues, the terrorist saps the morale of the enemy and forces its leadership to submit to the demands of the revolution or surrender.
23 IMMORTAL_CTHULHU  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:01:43am

'Religion Of Peace' my ass...

These people are worse than Nazis

24 ajf[deleted]  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:01:59am
25 Cato the Elder  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:02:17am

At least Khomeini was honest.

Both about jihad and about donkey-fucking.

(And don't forget it was the ever-lovin' French, those pillars of freedom and equality, who gave this monster a haven from which to overthrow the Shah. Vive la revolution!)

26 IMMORTAL_CTHULHU  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:05:38am

# 25 Cato the Elder

(And don't forget it was the ever-lovin' French, those pillars of freedom and equality, who gave this monster a haven from which to overthrow the Shah. Vive la revolution!)

This is status quo for the French. They love all opressive dictators, especially ones who contribute to the faltering French economy.

27 Poitiers-Lepanto  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:07:02am

#22 Super Fly

And Carlos the Jackal is in jail in...? France.
Where there is no death penalty and where, while living in jail, this redfascist friend of the islamofascists could happily...MARRY !
(I am NOT kiddin').

28 SkippyMoment  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:07:09am

And yet, if you display the 10 Commandments in a public building, or the Declaration of Independence in a public school, or mention God, or Jesus, or say Merry Christmas... you are hauled off to court.

America better wake up, we have met the enemy, and the enemy is us (not LFG'ers).

29 IMMORTAL_CTHULHU[deleted]  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:07:43am
30 LizzyG  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:08:33am

Uh, did ya know?
The Koran nowhere ever mentions the word LOVE.
It doesn't exist in Islamic "theology". If a concordance existed for Koranic reading the listing under love would be blank.
In fact, "Allah the Merciful" ... how on earth do they get THAT?

31 SkippyMoment  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:09:55am

#27 Some ditzy woman married Carlos Ramirez (the night stalker, satanist, serial killer). Some women are just unbelievably stupid.

32 Bilgeman  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:10:11am

Here's a tribute to Khomeini and his buttplug-budies:


[Link: www.apostatesofislam.com...]


I've posted it before, I'll prolly post it again.

Mind you, this isn't the Persian version of a bootleg "snuff flick", it's from a television broadcast.

They're PROUD of this shit.

Dare you to watch the whole thing...have you got the sand to stare Sharia law at the working end?

Regards;

33 ibu guru  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:10:19am

It was Khomeini who declared war against the US in 1979 in his "Great Satan" speech. We didn't take it seriously enough then, and too many still don't get it after it has been right out there for all to read for 25 years.

Anyone who has immigrated to the US since 1979, when Khomeini declared us an "enemy of islam," must be suspect of jihadist aims. No "good muslim" would move to enemy territory unless they aimed to take it over.

Our immigration laws are a disgrace, and enforcement is worse. We have become our own worst enemy allowing this scum inside our borders. Worse, nearly 30% of Muslim immigrants receive taxpayer dollars. We not only let the thief in the house, we give him what we own.

(stats from research paper published by CIS)

34 SkippyMoment  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:12:19am

#30

Allah the merciful... hum, I suppose it is more merciful to kill someone that violates the indescriminent tenants of that religion than to make them live under it. Personally, I'd kill myself if I had to live under Islam.

35 Super Fly  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:13:22am

Khomeini also said:

Allah did not create man so that he could have fun. The aim of creation was for mankind to be put to the test through hardship and prayer. An Islamic regime must be serious in every field. There are no jokes in Islam. There is no humor in Islam. There is no fun in Islam. There can be no fun and joy in whatever is serious.
36 paxnhymn  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:14:33am

LizzyG

Allah(urine & feces be upon him!) the merciful...

the merciful means if the moon god likes ya...he'll kill ya quick!

:-P

37 dnc makes me sick  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:14:48am

Why is it that anyone can annouce war against the US and none of the "organizations" that are so eager to slam anything American never speck out, and cannot see how often we are provoked?

Of course we can't expect anything from the world's largest oil broker - the UN - but how about the organizations inside of our country - maybe a good old round up and interment of the muslims would get some attention ?

38 PostalWorker  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:14:53am

"Allah did not create man "

At least that much is true.

39 Fluffster  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:15:48am

OT:

My country has officially gone down the crapper now.
The government of Iceland has decided to offer shelter to Bobby Fischer. Can't find any links in English yet, here's one in Icelandic:
http://www.mbl.is/mm/frettir/frett.html?nid=111651 7

40 Super Fly  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:18:33am

The word "love" DOES appear in the Koran, but, unless I'm mistaken, it is only used with reference to Allah and most of the time, it's talking about things that Allah does NOT love.

Love in the Koran

41 Yankee Zionist  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:20:27am

When all is said and done, the internet will be recognized as one of the most important factors in how the West either defended itself, or failed to do so.

The google cache must be giving these people fits.

They can no longer deny just how contemptuous they are for the society and culture that has given them welcome.

Amazing. Absolutely amazing.

42 the mighty oz[deleted]  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:22:03am
43 Poitiers-Lepanto  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:22:14am

#39 Fluffster

Are you muslim-free in Iceland ?

If the answer is yes, I start building a DRAKKAR on the Great Lakes, please look west and if you see a drakkar full of Campbell's Tomato Soup start the proceedings for political asylum !
Do you have good artillery along the coast ? (NOT for me, for the invaders !)

44 missouri boy  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:23:51am

It is the duty of all of us .. to get the message out ! islam
is not a religion... it's a cult at best, and as a cult, it deserves
no protection under the "freedom of religion" banner.

Tell everyone who will listen... islam promotes and teaches:
slavery,rape, killing, murder, beheading, wife beating, woman
abuse, child sex, animal sex, lying, cheating, and terror!
Everything islam stands for... is already against the law here, but islam hides behind : religion!

Sad, but true... if islam did not own our politians... we would
have already deported it!

45 Poitiers-Lepanto  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:24:22am

#40 Super Fly

I am sure you can find the word "love", in the koran, in connection with camels and goats too.

46 Thom  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:24:46am

#39 Fluffster

His games are masterpieces. Too bad he's such a freak.

47 Tumulus11  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:29:49am

. Why are the foolish mullahs wasting time at this conference ?

Don't they have a mutilation to attend ?

Are there no more civilians to murder ?

Are there no more slaves to abuse?

No more cars to swarm ?

No more caskets to plunder ?

No more livestock to seduce ?

In the words of the Ayatollah: (may he rot in Hell)

' I spit upon those foolish souls... '

48 WriterMom  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:29:58am

#42 the mighty oz

I'm no fan of Islam, but your language is really over the top in my opinion.

49 scaramouche  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:32:43am

As far as I can tell, the whole "Islam is a religion of peace" meme amounts to little more than wishful thinkful-- dangerous wishful thinking.

50 Fluffster  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:35:59am

#43 Poitiers-Lepanto

According to government statistics, there are 289 people (0.1% of the total population) registered as muslims in Iceland.

51 the mighty oz  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:38:56am

#48 WriterMom

Sorry about that. That was a little over the top. This story just makes me so angry that frustration vents itself. Others evidently feel the same way. See posts #14 and #25.

52 lah-dee-dah-dah  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:40:02am

#3 elevenbravo1969: If only deportation could be implemented. I was born & reared within 1/2 mile of the Dearborn, MI, border with Detroit. Currently I reside approx. 12 miles north of my childhood home, and often visit this nostalgic realm of my youth. My oh my--how times have changed. Dearborn is the largest Arab/Persian/Syrian/Iraqi/Palestinian Muslim enclave in the free world, numbering well over 400,000 potential splodeydopes living within our midst, waiting for the signal. I've posted often and at length here on LGF regarding the 'slim army which has infiltrated the U.S.; 1st their parents were allowed to emigrate here to work in the Big 3 auto factories for Ford Motor Co., Chrysler. and G.M. Obviously, they were fruitful and multiplied--and how! The 'slims raising hell now were BORN here--they're fing U.S. citizens! When all hell breaks loose, it will not be a simple task herding the Dearborn 'slims into internment camps. God's Direct Intervention is the only hope we have for freedom & safety. Truly, I wish I were only kidding. If anyone out there in LGF cyber-land wants to see decades-old U.S. islamifacation first-hand, I'll post an itinerary for an eye-opening visit to Dearborn, which will leave you positvely aghast in disbelief. May God bless the U.S.A.--we've been far too kind and permissive to those who live to destroy us.

53 Thom  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:40:52am

Charles - see also #29.

54 Poitiers-Lepanto  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:42:51am

#50 Fluffster

there are 289 people (0.1% of the total population) registered as muslims in Iceland.

I will not build the drakkar.
Sorry for you.

Build a drakkar, sail west next spring , follow the Saint Lawrence, pass the Ontario, I will meet you in ERIE (we have great nukes here and we are all immigrants, except for some million invaders who think they are the masters of the world).

/I try to joke, waiting for our politicians to wake up)

55 quercus albus  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:44:03am
“... or an adulteress to be stoned to death when all we can do is recommend such punishments, having no power to implement them?”

*Shudder*

And why, oh why is it the evil adulteress? It does take two to tango! Does the adulterer get to chuck rocks? Grrr!

56 bigel[deleted]  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:44:20am
57 missouri boy  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:45:47am

I hope I live long enough to see the day that every mosque
in America is converted into "Joe's Pork Barbeque" shacks.

ROPMA

58 Poitiers-Lepanto  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:47:07am

#48 Writer Mom

WOW that was a spell !

/memo to myself: don't EVER argue with Writer Mom

WAIT !?
Who deleted my hand ? Where is the mou[DELETED]

59 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:47:33am
60 Poitiers-Lepanto  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:48:29am

OT OT OT

I have just invented the Internet SEPPUKU:

Delete yourse[DELETED]

61 Thom  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:49:09am

#58 Poitiers-Lepanto

Heh. I guess they showed you who's [deleted]

62 dustyroadguy  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:49:41am

If you really want to know how big a threat Islam/Muslims are to the world read the writings of this dirty dozen:

These Infallible Twelve Holy Imams, or the Leaders of all mankind, are very well know to all Muslims.

1. Imam Ali Al-Murtatha(as)
2. Imam Hassan Al-Mujtaba(as)
3. Imam Hussein Al-Shaheed(as)
4. Imam Zain Al-Abdeen Al-Shujjad(as)
5. Imam Mohammed Al-Bakir(as)
6. Imam Jaffar Al-Sadiq(as)
7. Imam Musa Al-Kathum(as)
8. Imam Ali Al-Reda(as)
9. Imam Mohammed Al-Jawad(as)
10. Imam Ali Al-Hadi(as)
11. Imam Hassan Al-Askari(as)
12. Imam Mehdi Al-Muntadar(as)
Still living and awaiting God's Divine Command of his "SECOND COMING!"

This is really, really haunting stuff and represents what is taught IN THE BEST RELIGIOUS SCHOOLS of Islam...

The Infallible Holy Twelve Imams(as) Just as Allah(swt), The Most High, appointed His Messengers for the guidance of mankind in the same way of the appointment of deputies and successors for the Prophets was a matter of sheer necessity!

Allah(swt), The Most High, appointed Twelve distinguished Holy Personalities, one after the other as successors of The Holy Prophet(pbuh) of Islam, starting with the First Holy Infallible Imam Ali Ibin Abe Taleb(as).

The Holy Prophet Mohammad(pbuh&hf) had said
"After me there are Twelve Caliphas.
And they are all from Quraysh."

This illustrates/explains the fever with which Islamofacists are pursuing WMD's and world domination, from a prophetic point of view their time is --NOW--
The people that put on these venues and gatherings are part of the above community of 'Islamic Hegemonic' thought and are seeking the complete and utter destruction of contrary thought and lifestyle...

63 ex-simple servant  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:49:49am

#55 quercus albus

Don't you know that Arab men are in the thrall of women and not responsible for their actions. /sarc (is it needed?)

A group I belong to had a Mulim woman speak. She said they wear headpieces to cover their hair during prayers so the men will not let their minds wander from thoughts of Allah. Guess they can't keep their minds out of the gutter without help.

64 Poitiers-Lepanto  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:50:23am

#61 Thom

Exac[DELETED]

65 Austin Conservative  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:50:25am

It's ironic these scumbags were able to do this in Texas. Time to start slowly stocking up on the ammo.

66 elBarto  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:51:06am

the ayatolla is more tehn an enemy of the US he is an enemy of all civilization.

67 Rancher  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:51:29am

Two deleted comments! WOW!

OT:

Is Rummy going to jail in Germany over Abu Ghraib?
Pentagon concerned about legal complaint in Germany against Rumsfeld, others

The groups that filed the complaint said they had chosen Germany because of its Code of Crimes Against International Law, introduced in 2002, which grants German courts universal jurisdiction in cases involving war crimes or crimes against humanity.

Will they have to come here or to Iraq and get them? Not for some.

Germany is home to some 70,000 US troops, many of whom have rotated into and out of Iraq from German bases. Sanchez, the former US commander in Iraq, is stationed in Germany as commander of the army's 5th Corps

Sanchez is named in the complaint. Why are we still in Germany? For that matter why are we still in NATO? I think it’s time to let Europe and Japan raise their own armies to defend their own interests.

68 Plato  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:55:41am

Hey [Deleted]

You're becoming redundant.

69 Poitiers-Lepanto  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:55:47am

#65 Austin Conservative

Time to start slowly stocking up on the ammo.

That was immediately after 9/11.
Now it is time to stock it FAST.
We are kind of Terminator 1 LAST SCENE...driving towards the storm...

70 bigel[deleted]  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:56:11am
71 Poitiers-Lepanto  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:56:28am

#68 [DELETED]

sorry

72 pookleblinky  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:57:28am

I missed a killing spree. Lizard guts splattered all over the place!

What happened?

73 elBarto  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:57:45am

were the 2 deleted the same person?

74 WriterMom  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:58:18am

#58 P.L

LMAO!

75 elBarto  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:59:11am

Dang I take time of reading to 'work' and I miss all the fun.

76 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:59:31am

I love the smell of deletion in the morning!

77 missouri boy  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 10:59:41am

#65 "time to start stocking up ammo" What's sad is...
although we rant and rave about stuff like this thread...
we have no other solution, than the one offered by you.

78 WriterMom  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 11:00:12am

#72 pookleblinky

It made us laugh, it made us cry...it was bigger than CATS!

79 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 11:00:52am
80 Thom  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 11:01:15am

OK. For those of you who missed it, here's what happened:

[deleted]

81 Poitiers-Lepanto  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 11:01:32am

#76 TPP

Absolutely HILARIOUS ! LOLOLOL !

82 scrappy  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 11:02:03am

Can we not declare that we are in a religious war, declared by Islamofascists who have been seduced by the darkest of evil? The U.S. will fight and win this war, not for the dominance of a single religion, but for the preservation of all religions and the freedom to choose.

83 WriterMom  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 11:03:28am

#80 Thom

You are too [deleted] for words!

#56 bigel

Nice blog...thanks for that linky. Those [deleted] Krauts...

84 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 11:04:31am
85 Iron Fist[deleted]  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 11:05:23am
86 bigel[deleted]  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 11:05:28am
87 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 11:07:06am
88 bigel[deleted]  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 11:09:18am
89 Ed Moran abu GOMEX aob 26.5C  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 11:09:40am

In the longer range, which has been prone to change, the 12Z GFS model predicts 15 cm of snow Christmas afternoon in Houston, and closer to 25cm just north of Houston centered near Lufkin.


In the more immediate future is the 12Z GFS prediction of a massive ocean storm developing just off New York/New England.

The 540 dm 1000-500 mb height line and the zero celcius 850mb isotherm suggests New York and Boston on the cusp of either a lot of rain or a lot of wet, sticky windblown snow. A 984 mb surface low, sucking in icy air from a 1020+ mb Ontario high while throwing warmer maritime air into New England.

Navy NOGAPS similar.

GFS meteogram for Boston shows 3.9 cm liquid equivalent snow, or about 40 +/- 10cm of snow (over a foot, depending on fluff factor)

GFS for New York City says it starts as rain, turns back to snow, with about 2.3 cm liquid equivalent, or 20 to 25 cm (ballpark 10 inches).

90 WriterMom  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 11:10:33am

#86 bigel

Yikes...I forsee smoke and brimstone on this thread. Can we go back to Khomeni bashing? Pretty please?

91 scaramouche  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 11:11:06am

#86 bigel

Something I've always wanted to ask you (and the subject of debate among some lizards I know): is your nic pronounced like "Nigel" or like "pickle"? Personally, I've always fallen into the "Nigel" camp, but I seem to be in the minority.

92 WriterMom  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 11:12:06am

#91 scaramouche

I am firmly planted in the "bigel" like "wiggle" camp.

93 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 11:12:13am
94 hornet  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 11:12:31am

Until polititions get some testicular fortitude and call islam for what it is, a death/hate cult, muslims and their fans will continue their merry way to world domination unobstructed. Who will be first to call a spade a spade?

95 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 11:13:59am

#81 PL


~channels Elvis~ Thank yewww, Thankyewverymuch!

96 bigel[deleted]  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 11:16:16am
97 Yankee Zionist  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 11:17:36am
I missed a killing spree. Lizard guts splattered all over the place!

Hilarious.

PMP.

Trolls?

98 Ed Moran abu GOMEX aob 26.5C  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 11:20:26am

Is [deleted] a barking LLL troll, a barking LLL troll acting like a junior Klansman, or a regular poster who made the mistake of referring to comment 17

99 WriterMom  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 11:22:10am

#96 bigel

Come for brunch, we'll talk...

I agree with you that it needs to be discussed-absolutely, but I'm not convinced this is the best place for it. The few times where I have taken a break from LGF were all related to the hatred directed your way, as a result of this topic being raised. I also lost family in the Holocaust, I lost a brother-in-law to Islamic terror. I know about evil-and classify the resurgence (or just simmering to the top) of Nazi feelings in Germany to be in that category.

But threads like this bring out some of the most raw and ugly comments and are not productive and nobody is going to change their minds, or educate anyone else whose mind is set.

100 bigel[deleted]  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 11:27:03am
101 WriterMom  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 11:33:10am

#100 bigel

The best revenge is living well and I think it looks just delightful on France that they will be the first Muslim country in Europe.

Venting is one thing-but out of respect for Charles-who interferes so very little in the comments, and has provided us with such a wonderful playground-there are certain topics on which there is a general consensus that LGF isn't the best forum for discussion.

102 composmentis  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 11:37:52am

#62 Dusty Road Guy

And this bothers you?
/sark-off

OT
Re: French Chicken Thread Investigation ; Something of possible significance. "Gaffer Tape" unknown to us "Duck" (Duct) Tape users.
Maybe Mika or Q can use this to I.D the "prevert"

103 Cam  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 11:42:00am

#102 composmentis:

Something of possible significance. "Gaffer Tape" unknown to us "Duck" (Duct) Tape users

Huh?

104 bigel[deleted]  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 11:42:19am
105 Rancher  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 11:45:08am

#96 Bigel

You pronounce it however you like...

Hey! Come on, answer the question. I never gave it any thought, pronouncing it like Nigel, but now I won’t be able to sleep at night unless I know.

106 WriterMom  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 11:46:13am

#104 bigel

I agree with you about plenty-all I'm saying is that there is a time and a place for everything. I would bookmark you immediately if you start your own blog and embigelize the masses.

107 bigel[deleted]  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 11:49:11am
108 Sarah D.  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 11:50:20am

#105 Rancher

When I read it, it sounds like Big-L. Of course I have no idea if that's correct or not :-)

109 WriterMom  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 11:52:27am

#107 bigel

LMAO!

Save the domain name anyway!

110 Rancher  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 11:53:42am

#104 WriterMom

I would bookmark you immediately if you start your own blog and embigelize the masses

Ditto. And then maybe we would know how to pronounce your name. I quess I'll go with wiggle.

111 composmentis  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 11:56:14am
112 composmentis  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 11:59:44am

#107 bigel
That domain name is open if you use _ to separate words.

113 TotallySirius  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 12:01:11pm

As I said yesterday,this is sedition.

Advocating the overthrow of the government is illegal.

The people who sponsored and attended that seminar should be arrested and put on trial,the trial would last about 5 minutes.Show the jury that poster,case closed.

Execution at dawn.

114 Cam  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 12:03:46pm

#111 composmentis:

Oh. I wondered because "duct" tape is actually a misnomer - what we think of as "duct" tape is wsa actually patented as "Duck Brand Tape", so called because water slid off of it like water off a duck's ass backside. And "Gaff" tape is a not uncommon term for duct tape, at least in Canada.

115 ex-simple servant  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 12:08:24pm

#114 Cam

Duct tape -- the handiman's friend
/channeling Red Green

116 composmentis  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 12:16:29pm

#114 cam

I hate to disagree, but Shurtape of Hickory NC produced DUCT tape many, many years before "Duck" hatched.
It is one of the two largest producers in the US, if not in the world, and the other is Tyco.

117 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 12:24:13pm
118 scaramouche  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 12:25:39pm

There once was a poster named bigel
Whose nic, said some, rhymed with "wriggle".
More often than not, his rants were quite hot
But induced the occasional giggle.

119 pookleblinky  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 12:29:51pm

#117 Ploome

pookleblinky is pronounced as it is spelled: pookle (like ducal) blinky (like linky). "Ducal linky pookle blinky."

120 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 12:30:06pm

scaramouche...

love the limerick!

I have also noticed some good Haiku.

Charles, perhaps you should have a section devoted to the best of the Haiku and Limericks seen here at LGF.

121 LC LaWedgie  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 12:42:35pm

#25 -
Speaking of the French, the guest speaker at this Khomeini love conference, Maverick's Tariq Abdul-Wahid, is French and played for France on the Olympic basketball team (after getting his free edumication at San Jose State of course.)

122 Studsup  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 12:42:49pm

"67 Rancher -- "The groups that filed the complaint said they had chosen Germany because of its Code of Crimes Against International Law, introduced in 2002, which grants German courts universal jurisdiction in cases involving war crimes or crimes against humanity."

Isn't it just like the Germans to assert jurisdiction over the entire world? Some things never change.

123 scaramouche  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 12:49:18pm

#119 pooklebinky

Thanks for the clarification. Up till now I've been rhyming it with "spook" not "ducal". My six-year-old son is learning to read and is constantly confounded the the inconsistenties of the English language. Come to think of it, so am I.

124 scaramouche  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 12:50:03pm

#115 ex simple servant

You must be a Canajun, eh?

125 Studsup  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 12:50:32pm

#69 Poitiers - Lepanto -- "That was immediately after 9/11.
Now it is time to stock it FAST.
We are kind of Terminator 1 LAST SCENE...driving towards the storm... "


Let's get serious. Think of getting one of these:

[Link: dillonprecision.com...]

126 Studsup  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 12:58:17pm

#22 Super Fly -- "Carlos claims that terrorism is "the cleanest and most efficient form of warfare." By killing civilians, he argues, the terrorist saps the morale of the enemy and forces its leadership to submit to the demands of the revolution or surrender. "

What is Carlos' answer when the civilians here begin to defend themselves.

127 Cam  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 12:58:32pm

#116 composmentis:

I, too, hate to disagree, but not as much as I hate being wrong.

;-)


Adhesive tape (specifically masking tape) was invented in the 1920's by Richard Drew of Minnesota Mining and Manufacturing, Co. (3M). Duct tape (the WWII military version) was first created and manufactured in 1942 (approximate date) by the Johnson and Johnson Permacel Division. Its closest predecessor was medical tape.
The original use was to keep moisture out of the ammunition cases. Because it was waterproof, people referred to the tape as "Duck Tape." Also, the tape was made using cotton duck - similar to what was used in their cloth medical tapes. Military personnel quickly discovered that the tape was very versatile and used it to fix their guns, jeeps, aircraft, etc. After the war, the tape was used in the booming housing industry to connect heating and air conditioning duct work together
Soon, the color was changed from Army green to silver to match the ductwork and people started to refer to duck tape as "Duct Tape." Things changed during the 1970s, when the partners at Manco, Inc. placed rolls of duct tape in shrink wrap, making it easier for retailers to stack the sticky rolls. Different grades and colors of duct tape weren´t far behind. Soon, duct tape became the most versatile tool in the household.

Source

128 scaramouche  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 1:04:31pm

Back to Ayatollah K.--everything you need to know about the scourge of Islamic fascism is inscribed on his hideous punim. It is angry, unforgiving, ugly. It brooks no criticism, banishes all irreverance and is frozen in a rictus of hatred. In ancient Greek myth, the sight of Medusa transformed the observer to stone. In modern times, the sight of Khomeini had much the same effect.

129 Sandy P  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 1:16:27pm

--Whatever good there is exists thanks to the sword and in the shadow of the sword! People cannot be made obedient except with the sword! --

Millions for defense, not one penny for tribute!

And we know who has the bigger sword...

130 Poitiers-Lepanto  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 1:17:57pm

#129 Sandy P

And we know who has the bigger sword...

After all...size matters.

131 scaramouche  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 1:19:07pm

#129 Sandy P

And we know who has the bigger sword...

That's just so...male.

132 Cam  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 1:19:58pm

#131 scaramouche:

OT:

I'm flying into Tranna on the 21st - any snow there?

133 ajf  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 1:26:56pm

#24 [deleted] was me and I fail to see the reason for the deletion, unless it has something to do with the down thread comments which I missed.

When you can't call for the execution of the enemies of humanity somethings really wrong.

For the record: I'm Persian. My father was imprisoned and tortured by Khomeini's thugs over the course of 4 years...for being Zoroastrian.

I'll be hunting down and killing these filthy vermin - be they in Texas, Tehran or anywhere in between - until the day I die.

134 Cam  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 1:31:22pm

#133 ajf :

Are you a Zoroastrian. just out of curiousity?

135 Sarah D.  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 1:33:42pm

I was under the impression there were very few Zoroastrians left.

136 composmentis  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 1:34:18pm

#127 Cam

Go here Click on 1972. If I am wrong, it won't be the first time. But IIRC, Shuford produced the full width coated fabric, but sold to converters, and I believe Manco might have been a customer.

This is a trivial matter, so I won't hold a grudge. BTW, did you go back to the thread I linked and read? The
troll was determined.

137 Cam  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 1:38:51pm

#136 composmentis:

Since my research was scant, it could very well be that "Duck" tape was merely a descriptive term. That said, it does say in the passage I linked that 3M, or its predecessor, began producing it in the 1920's. So it oculd be either way. I wasn't trying to argue, I just like arcane trivia - prepping for my 15 minutes of fame on Jeopardy!

And yes, I did see that thread. What a tool. Incidentally, I threw in the thing about "gaffer" tape being an exclusively Canadian term, on the thought that it may have provided a clue to that jackass' origin.

138 ajf  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 1:40:05pm

#134 Cam,

Yes, 3/4 Zoroastrian and 1/4 Catholic by blood.

#135 Sarah D.,

There are very few Zoroastrians left thanks to the Muslims. At last count the estimate was, perhaps, 5000 in the US. 30,000 - 50,000 in Iran and maybe 200,000 in India (known as Parsis, they fled the Arab invaders of Persia.)

139 Poitiers-Lepanto  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 1:42:54pm

#133 Ajf

The problem could be that we don't want LGF to be locked down by the FBI in the name of "hate crimes".

The comments are expected to stay on that thin razor's edge which stays between personal feelings and the Law.

But I am not Charles, so I don't know what exactly disturbed the Host of these discussions.

VERY SORRY for your Father.

Fight on for Freedom.

140 Cam  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 1:46:52pm

#138 ajf:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought I had read once somewhere that part of the reason for the scarcity of Zoroastrians is that people of other faiths weren't allowed to convert - you were either born Zoroastrian or you could not become one.

Is this true?

141 cba  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 1:48:21pm

#138 ajf:

There are very few Zoroastrians left thanks to the Muslims.

Ditto the Baha'i, which are horribly persecuted in Iran.

142 Sarah D.  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 1:48:40pm

#138 ajf

Okay, how can you be Catholic by blood? Or Zoroastrian for that matter?

I was born into a Catholic family, but I am part American Indian part Canadian French.

143 cba  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 1:49:50pm

#141 (my post):

"which who are horribly persecuted... "

144 Cam  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 1:50:19pm

#141 cba:

Hey cba! How are you? Freezin' yet in Winterpeg?

I'm still eyeing that suburban split-level in Selkirk...

;-)

145 cba  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 1:51:39pm

#142 Sarah D.

I am part American Indian part Canadian French.

How do you say "Metis" in 'Merican?

:-)

146 Cam  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 1:53:26pm

#145 cba:

I went to a friend's wedding a few weeks ago - he is actually from Selkirk. Anyhoo, his family is mixed Metis and bohunk Ukrainian. I have never eaten so well in my life.

Drinks were five bucks a pop, however.

147 cba  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 1:54:48pm

#144 Cam:

Freezin' yet in Winterpeg?

Freezing "yet"? Freezing "yet," he says!

Freezing came late this year--only about three weeks ago.

Remind me to tell you of my adventures running in cold, snowy conditions (my first winter of running). The instructors tell us it's only going to get colder. Which I already knew from my previous several years in this city.

My mother, who monitors the weather from afar, delights in telling me when the temperature in Winnipeg is below the temperature in Siberia.

Which has happened more than once.

148 Old Norm  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 1:54:49pm

#55 quercus albus

I read all the way through, just to post exactly that. Glad I didn't just come straight to the bottom and repeat your frustration.

149 cba  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 1:55:53pm

#146 Cam:

mixed Metis

Isn't that from the Department of Redundancy Department?

;-)

j/k, I know what you meant.

150 Cam  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 1:57:29pm

#147 cba:

LOL!

I am half-snapped already, as it is my birthday, and the entire shop took this as an excuse to not work and instead, uh, celebrate. So forgive me if I make gratuitous jokes about the sub-polar weather you contend with...

;-)

151 Sarah D.  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 1:59:20pm

#145 cba

I've gotta dig out my ancestry dig I did back a few years ago. I need to hit up you Canucks on some area info!

Actually there is some information that points towards Canadian Indian in the family also. Potowatomie. Came down here for a bit, then went back as I understand it.

152 cba  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 1:59:31pm

#150 Cam:

Happy birthday to you
Happy birthday to you
Happy biiirthday, dear Ca-aaam!
Happy birthday tooo yooo!

(And many mooore!)

So, what's the magic number?

153 Cam  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 2:02:42pm

#152 cba:

28. I have yet to receive my whacks, although not for lack of everybody trying...

154 Carridine  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 2:12:29pm

Because of Islam's several-hundred-year-old traditions about the Holy One, 1260 and Akka, public discussion of these issues, and in particular public discussion of the One Who came, May 23, 1260AH/1844CE, has within it the power to eviscerate the mullahs, transform their hatred into courtesy and serve to bring hundreds of millions of Muslims INTO the second century (2004 CE = 160 BE) of this New Era.

Mullahs have been told by God that they are no longer needed, as power has been given to the people of the world, power to independently investigate the truth. Mullahs HATE this, and cling to power.

Public discourse focused on the coming of the Holy One, May 23, 1844 and His subsequent execution by firing squad July 9, 1850 can only serve to enlighten and to catalyze vast reserves of Islamic Hadith and tradition!

155 ajf  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 2:12:52pm

#139 Poitiers-Lepanto

Thanks.

#142 Sarah D.

I don't practice any religion, but was trying to answer Cam. Don't want to get into a whole semantic debate. But yes you can be Zoroastrian by blood, just as you can be a Jew by blood .

#140 Cam 

There are Zoroastrians who won't accept you as Zoroastrian if you don't have a Zoroastrian parent. But I think that came about after the Arabs slaughtered most of us.

#141 cba

True. Baha'i is a muslim sect though.

156 cba  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 2:17:17pm

#153 Cam:
OMG, I'm 21 years and one month and 11 days older than you! You're a baby!

Or maybe I'm just really, really old.

Nah... {cba hobbles off into the night}

157 scaramouche  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 2:26:21pm

#132 Cam

No snow for the moment, but yesterday was a bone-chilling minus 10.

158 eddiebear  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 2:27:50pm

What's sad is that these creeps will come out and cry "religious persecution" about their "religion of peace, blah, blah, blah,..." if Islamic terrorists try something again.

159 cba  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 2:28:52pm

#157 scaramouche:
"We're warmer than yoo-oo! We'are warmer than yoo-oo!" /neener-neener voice

It's currently a mere -7, and earlier today it was a tropical -2!

160 scaramouche  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 2:36:06pm

#159 cba

How Canajun of us to compare notes about the weather. You know it's cold when the mother of one of your son's classmates, who moved here last year from Russia, comments on the flesh-freezing temperature.

Mind you, I wouldn't gloat too much it I were you--I'm not the one who lives in a city nicknamed for the coldest season of year.

161 cba  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 2:41:19pm

#160 scaramouche:
I ain't gloatin', honey, I'm comforting myself!

I left England because I couldn't stand the weather.* Then I married a Winnipeger who subsequently got homesick. {insert rolling eyeballs emoticon here}
*Not the real reason I left. But the short winters in Israel were a definite bonus.

I should be out on running practice, especially on such a lovely evening (better than the crap I was running in on Sunday) but I'm exhausted and promised myself an outrageously early night. So it's a bit more LGF, then I'm hitting the hay.

162 flagellator  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 2:42:18pm

Redneck tool box...

If it moves and it sholdn't...duct tape.

If don't move and it should...WD 40.

All that's required...

163 cba  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 2:43:20pm

#161 (my post):
Er... I wasn't literally running in crap (at least, if I was it was covered by snow and I didn't realise it)--I meant crappy weather.

But you knew that, right?

164 composmentis  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 2:44:31pm

#153 cam

Happy birthday! Gotcha by 46. Hope I'm still around to
wish you a lot more.

BTW, I like the trivia bit. Gaffers down here usually refer to electricians or studio hands, and Gaffer tape, I believe, is Black and Duct Tape is Silver. Marketing power.

I think the suspect has connections to the media and could well be Canadian. Interesting, if long, thread.

165 scaramouche  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 2:46:16pm

#161 cba

My mom's from Ottawa and my (late) Dad was from way up north in Ontario. To them, Toronto was like Miami.

166 flagellator  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 2:46:16pm

my # 162...
PIMF PIMF PIMF

for shame

167 Beagle  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 2:48:15pm

[deleted]

...or a religion of peace. Which seems very unlikely.

168 rtheyserius  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 2:58:15pm

Inventory of Options:

- We can't kick'em out of the U.S. because the substantial political forces of LLL would not allow it.

- We can't do much, in fact, to them for the same reason.

- We can't go attack every Muslim country for a number of reasons... not enough troops, too expensive, many of the civilized nations would go berserk on us, and about 1/2 of our own populace would freak out beyond belief.

- We can't ban the Koran. Freedom of the press, freedom of speech.

- We can't intern them. Injustice (per LLL).

- We can't stop them from coming across our borders because we don't want to alienate all the illegal aliens and their registered voter families, or deprive businesses from cheap labor.

- We can't arrest them and prosecute the majority of them because they do not advocate the overthrow of the government. They merely agree with people who wish to annihilate us.

- We can't shut down their propaganda machine because most of it is located in sovereign countries over which we have no control.

- [space here for all the other things we "can't" do]

What we CAN do is:

- Monitor them.

- Try to stop them from committing terrorist attacks.

- Work up a big steam for a single-country invasion, like Iraq, then fight amongst ourselves over it for 4 years. Don't even dream about another invasion.

- Work with other countries who mostly hate us to try to quell the terrorists to some degree.

Conclusion: They are beating us. Big time. And they'll continue to beat us until we untie our own hands.

169 Cornholio  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 3:14:07pm
Whatever good there is exists thanks to the sword and in the shadow of the sword! People cannot be made obedient except with the sword!

Good thing Americans have guns. :)

170 Clutch  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 3:20:18pm

[ba-leeted] Why, you lousy little crap-for-crap! [ba-leeted] Holy ghost of General Chou's chicken, you lousy Compy 386! [ba-leeted]

channelling Strong-Bad...

171 dustyroadguy  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 3:20:57pm

168 rtheyserius

the only thing that makes any sense at this point is more of the same actions against rouge regimes such as Syria, Iran, etc, as in Afghanistan/Iraq overseas...

on the home front, the evidence is mounting and some are starting to listen to what the Muslim/Isblamofacists are actually advocating. As a result perhaps time will allow an opportunity to compel a court case declaring some Isblamofacists/Muslims organizations as 'hate groups' and ban them, stomp them, eradicate and/or marginalize them as was done with the KKK one at a time...

This going to take a long time as minds only change one at a time...

The question becomes how many will die in the mean time...

172 Edward  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 3:23:50pm

I went to Robert Spencer's article and read the whole thing. This paragraph caught me between the eyes:

"Was the woman who carried Khomeini’s image in the Dearborn demonstration concerned about the human rights of women? Did she know that the Ayatollah himself married a ten-year-old girl when he was twenty-eight? Did she know that Khomeini called marriage to a girl before her first menstrual period “a divine blessing,” and advised the faithful: “Do your best to ensure that your daughters do not see their first blood in your house”?

I won't comment - I can't think of anything strong enough that wouldn't need to be deleted. But this needs to be circulated as widely as possible, to alert decent people (especially parents) everywhere to this aspect of the Islamic menace.

RoP = Religion of Paedophiles.

173 Norwegian kafir  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 3:26:53pm

OK, since this is a thread about Iran, please help against Islamic barbarism by signing this online petition for an Iranian woman about to be stoned to death at the end of December.

174 Sarah D.  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 4:12:22pm

#172 Edward

Have you got a link for that?

175 composmentis  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 4:24:49pm

#171 Dustyroadguy OT

Did you identify "troll"?

176 Edward  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 5:28:40pm

#174 Sarah D. -

Charles gave the link at the beginning of the thread. Scroll up and click on 'Khomeini in Dearborn.'

177 EE  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 6:46:18pm

Although Wahhabism, with its emphasis on jihad and its anti-Western hatred, makes Muslims receptive to radical Islam, that is not the only problem. Khomeinism is as much a center of radical Islam as anything that exists in Islam. And Khomeinism is an ideology of the Shiite branch of Islam, unlike Wahhabism which is of the Sunni branch. So it is a mistake to focus entirely on Wahhabism, and thereby ignore Khomeinism.

“Islam makes it incumbent on all adult males, provided they are not disabled or incapacitated, to prepare themselves for the conquest of countries so that the writ of Islam is obeyed in every country in the world...But those who study Islamic Holy War will understand why Islam wants to conquer the whole world.” -- Khomeini (from the article).

Leaving aside the various other faults of the prevailing interpretation of Islam, and there are many reasons for criticism, this aggressiveness of the Khomeini interpretation of Islam is the most directly threatening aspect of radical Islam. It is at least as aggressive as Nazism, Fascism, and Communism ever were, and probably even more so since it explicitly calls for conquest of the world.

Whoever supports and advances Khomeinism is an enemy of the free world.

178 rtheyserius  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 6:47:56pm
#171 Dustyroadguy -- the only thing that makes any sense at this point is more of the same actions against rouge regimes such as Syria, Iran, etc, as in Afghanistan/Iraq overseas...

I guess. It seems the best we can do at this point. When I really add everything up rationally, Bush's restraint seems more and more like wisdom - as opposed to what I'd do if I were in the White House (start pushing red buttons).

#175 composmentis,

I don't know what "troll" you're referring to, but if you're thinking of me, you've got your glasses on backwards.

179 rtheyserius  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 6:50:54pm
#177 EE -- It is at least as aggressive as Nazism, Fascism, and Communism ever were

That's for sure. You'd think the whole of the U.S., if not the world, would react as such. But heads are in the sand, just like they were during Hitler's rise.

180 RebTex  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 7:12:14pm

Is it just me...or does AJF sound just like the sword fighter in "The Princess Bride"?

181 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 7:39:01pm
182 vickie  Wed, Dec 15, 2004 9:27:07pm

Not hearing all that much about THIS...but you WILL be hearing about the raiding of AIPAC and charges of spying for Israel. Same..with Israel..they are spying...and all that.

IF there was any of this...it was the same with our side. Every country spies on every other country. Friend or foe. The US was caught syping on Australia...15? or so years ago. Why? I have NO idea. Story came and went in a second and we heard no more about it. Think I heard something about FRANCE spying against the US a while ago. Story disappeared. Only heard it once. (How come some stories are given MAX attention and others are burried QUICK?) Huh? Gee, cant imagine why that goes on.

I knew this business (trashing Israel) was comin after the Election. So the Demonization of Israel and Jews will be IN the News, pushed big time,...and this continuing activity of Arab Americans and supporters of Islam is a ho hum. Nothin much. Just a minority...blah blah blah.

Im startin to get very VERY angry...

183 Carridine  Thu, Dec 16, 2004 7:20:53am

Da Leader was [deleted],
and the feeder was defeated
while the whole world watched, enraged

The Few were defused
and the Yews were re-used
and the Hippies toked, en-gaged

The Moonbats, de-luded
on the hillside, denuded
should've just been caged

Until the Leader was [deleted]
and the soil all receded
and the pageboys all were paged

So unless you recant
(or find that you cant)
You'll be hounded by the news

Day after day,
you'll just have to pay
for the right to gum yr chews

Choose yr gun
(it might be fun)
You know it will be needed

But place no bet
(at least, not yet)
Lest the Liter be [deleted]

184 Carridine  Thu, Dec 16, 2004 8:13:28am

On a more sober note, this was posted by #155-

"True. Baha'i is a muslim sect though."

Only if Christianity is a 'sect' of Judaism for having grown out of its Jewish matrix. Jesus was a Jew, but His revelation initiated no sect; what He brought was a fuller outpouring of the Will of God, for His day.

Although begun in a Muslim socio-cultural matrix, what was brought by The Bab and by Baha'u'llah can no more be called a 'sect of Islam' than what Jesus brought can be called 'a sect of Judaism'. They are distinct, independent chapters of one holy Book.

Moreover, Muslim clergy REPUDIATE people dedicated to The Glory of God. They persecute and, if possible, hang or otherwise kill Baha'is because the view it as NOT Islam!

185 Nomorelies  Thu, Dec 16, 2004 10:54:37am

I don't know why we just don't expend a little energy and off the jerk. When will be quit being politically correct and get the scum out of our country? Perhaps on a sinking ship...


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