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-RetweetRadical Islam Apologist at Northeastern U

Thu, Dec 30, 2004 at 8:35:20 am PST

Shahid Alam, professor of economics at Northeastern University, says that Mohammed Atta and the other September 11 mass murderers were just like the American colonists fighting against the British in the Revolutionary War: America and Islam - Seeking Parallels. (Hat tip: mhayes.)

On April 19, 1775, 700 British troops reached Concord, Massachusetts, to disarm the American colonists who were preparing to start an insurrection. When the British ordered them to disperse, the colonists fired back at the British soldiers. This “shot heard ‘round the world” heralded the start of an insurrection against Britain, the greatest Western power of its time. And when it ended, victorious, in 1783, the colonists had gained their objective. They had established a sovereign but slave-holding republic, the United States of America.

The colonists broke away because this was economically advantageous to their commercial and landed classes. As colonists, they were ruled by a parliament in which they were not represented, and which did not represent their interests. The colonies were not free to protect and develop their own commerce and industries. Their bid for independence was made all the more attractive because it was pressed under the banner of liberty. The colonial elites had imbibed well the lessons of the Enlightenment, and here in the new world, they had an opportunity to harness liberty in the service of their economic interests. Backed by the self interest of their landed and commercial elites, and inspired by revolutionary ideas, the colonists had a dream worth pursuing. They were prepared to die for this dream - and to kill. They did: and they won.

On September 11, 2001, nineteen Arab hijackers too demonstrated their willingness to die - and to kill - for their dream. They died so that their people might live, free and in dignity. The manner of their death - and the destruction it wreaked - is not merely a testament to the vulnerabilities that modern technology has created to clandestine attacks. After all, skyscrapers and airplanes have co-existed peacefully for many decades. The attacks of 9-11 were in many ways a work of daring and imagination too; if one can think objectively of such horrors. They were a cataclysmic summation of the history of Western depredations in the Middle East: the history of a unity dismembered, of societies manipulated by surrogates, of development derailed and disrupted, of a people dispossessed. The explosion of 9-11 was indeed a “shot heard ‘round the world.”

UPDATE at 12/30/04 10:30:27 am:

An LGF reader emailed the following to Professor Alam:

You are a disgrace to your position. How dare you state the those people killed that their people “might live, free and in dignity”? Where is your sense of justice and pride in the country that allows real freedom? You tell me what freedom and dignity the women in Afghanistan lived with! I await your reply.

I am a South African living in the US and I witnessed the transition from a one party dictatorship to a free democracy in SA and no children and civilians were slaughtered like bugs to do it. The South African people had nothing to lose yet they lived and died for freedom with real honour and dignity. There is no justifications for terrorism and by doing so, you make yourself complicit in murder. Learn from South African history that one need not use terrorist tactics to achieve goals and then educate yourself professor that one need not justify murder.

Dean Levitt

...and received the following reply:

Why is it that the only hateful mail I have received is signed by Levitt,
Hoch or Freedman?

UPDATE at 12/30/04 1:13:29 pm:

If you decide to contact the professor or his university, please remember that the best way to make your points heard is to be polite.

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1 Jax  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:36:29am

Sorry, Zombie.

2 maf  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:37:39am

where's a tidal wave when you need one!

3 Innismir  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:39:47am

As a graduate of Northeastern University (BS CompEng '03), I would like to apologize to LGF on behalf of the clueful people that attend the school, (not many, but still).

Sorry.

(Also, the alumni assoc will no longer get any donations from me until this guy is out of there. Not that they can't live without my $50/year, but still.)

4 Beagle  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:40:07am

If only the Air Force would let me do the performance art I call Ka'baOOM! I only need one JDAM.

5 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:40:12am
On September 11, 2001, nineteen Arab hijackers too demonstrated their willingness to die - and to kill - for their dream. They died so that their people might live, free and in dignity

I think I'm gonna be sick!


When the hell are we going to start tossing these, Charles sorry for the language, a$$hole$ out of this country?

And to think that this person is a professor at a college!

Damn Hippies! They are the reason this is allowed in our unis and schools.

6 steve miller  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:41:27am

Nodrog will by any minute to explain that this is all a misunderstanding and it's a tiny minority blah blah blah...

Equivocation in 3...2...1...

7 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:42:33am
8 ProudLiberals dot com  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:42:44am

Conservative Wisdom

Take this quiz to find out how much of a good conservative you are. Give yourself 1 point for each question you can answer. Subtract two points for each question you skip.

1) Michael Moore is a big fat liar. Everything he says is a lie. What's the lie in his movie "Fahrenheit 9/11" that disproves his theory the Bush lied to the country about the war?

2) John Kerry is a stinking flip-flopper who has two arguments for every issue. What's his biggest flip-flop that betrays American's trust in him?

3) Clinton was a bad president, full of screw-ups. What large mistake did he make that endangered national security?

4) Bush is a wonderful president, who has never done anything seriously wrong. What's Bush's greatest accomplishment while in office?

5) People who watch FoxNews get the real scoop, while the masses that watch the "Main Stream Media" get duped. What is one network news channel that has higher rated shows than FoxNews?

6) Conservatives need to take back this country in order to fix it and keep it safe. Liberals keep fighting against us, but if we keep battling, someday we'll get power and return us to glory. Of the three branches of the government, legislative, judicial, and executive, how many do we have left to take over?

7) Those godless liberals are trying to take the "Christ" out of Christmas by keeping us from practicing our faith. What is one specific thing liberals have done to stomp on our religious worship?

8) While they fight to keep the Ten Commandments out of the courtroom, we fight to keep it in. After all, many of our founding fathers in this country were Christians. What is the most important Commandment that needs to be better represented in our legal system today?

9) The "Patriot Act" is needed to help law enforcement snoop into the records of those that would do us harm. Regular citizens should have nothing to worry about, because they are not criminals. How many terrorists has this act caught since 9/11?

10) Outsourcing jobs is good, because it makes a profit. Importing drugs is bad, because it hurts profits. Explain to the average person how having someone in a foreign country doing their job, with access to cheaper healthcare, is good for them?

9 csva  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:42:54am

" live, free and in dignity"

Living under a taliban like caliphate isn't free or with dignity. But then I am American and can't see how placing women in burkas releases them from the evil glare of the male animal.

10 Lightning_Man  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:43:16am

Deport him.

11 Obi-Wan  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:43:17am

Live free and in dignity?

WTF indeed!

12 Thoth  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:43:42am

Except that the Founding Fathers were fighting the English ARMY, rather than mercilessly slaughtering colonial civilians.

~J

13 kayawanee  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:43:54am

Yes of course, murdering innocent civilians is EXACTLY like our colonial rebelion, which targeted British military.

/LLL

14 Cowgirl  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:44:39am

What an idiot! There is absolutely no comparison between the American War for Independence and 9/11, as any reasonably informed person knows. Citizens breaking away from their own country, for whatever reason, has nothing at all to do with what happend on 9/11. And to think, I almost attended that university. So glad I went elsewhere.

15 FreakyBoy  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:45:01am

Muslim to Dhimmi dictionary:

Live Free = Caliphate

16 Carolina Girl  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:45:21am

Yeah. It's a shame we put an end to that dignified freedom the Iraqis were living under, isn't it.

I've got a 16-year-old with hip hop records that make more sense than this idiot.

I have a dream, too. It involves my right fist and this a$$hole's dentition.

17 abu_garcia  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:45:27am

This s#!t is really starting to get to me.

Dear Shahid,

There'll be a shot heard round the world one day, asshat. One of these days we will have had enough of you f00ks and uncap a few bottles of sunshine on your asses.

The wheels grind slow, but fine.

18 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:46:09am
19 Padre  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:46:51am

"The colonists broke away because this was economically advantageous to their commercial and landed classes."...
"Their bid for independence was made all the more attractive because it was pressed under the banner of liberty."

How freaking stupid and wrong can you get?!
We did it for the money and freedom was icing on the cake?

As a decendent of Colonol William Prescott, I have the right to say, FUCK YOU! I guess I should join S.A.R.

20 kayawanee  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:46:52am

#8 ProudLiberals dot com

It's bad enough that you go off topic within the first 10 posts, but you could at least have the courtesy to tag your stuff as OT.

21 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:47:07am

Well, except for the point where the 19 were psychotic Muslims terrorist f**kheads who attacked innocent civilians in the name of their religion, which has a history of enslavement, murder and treachery, then yes, I can see the parallels.

And to think, my taxpayer dollars help fund education.

22 Carolina Girl  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:47:45am

Just GAZIN' over here...

23 Stormy  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:47:59am

Dear Shahid, please take the crack pipe out of your mouth. Thanks.

24 Powderfinger  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:48:10am
They died so that their people might live, free and in dignity.

Is that what they call what was going on back at the HQ in Afghanistan? Freedom and dignity?

I guess "their people" doesn't include women. But I keep forgetting, they're property, not people.

Blech.

25 Crimsonfisted  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:48:19am
The attacks of 9-11 were in many ways a work of daring and imagination too;

Pifle. Didn't a couple of rappers have the very image on the cover of one of their CDs which they removed after 9-11? An image of a plane hitting the WTC? And wasn't there a little movie called King Kong that "imagined" a similar thing?

Imagination and daring my Aunt Fanny.

26 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:48:50am

The invaders must feel very strong if they dare spit in this way in our face.

I hope that the Families of the Victims will not see this, and on the other hand maybe they should...

27 N.A. PALM  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:49:01am

Interesting, very interesting. But twisted, very twisted...

Oh btw, did we mention we want your land, your money, and your minds, and we will get them if if takes one thousand years. And if you don't like it, we'll kill you. and if you try to get us back, we'll kill you AGAIN.

Mohamed, prophet of love and peace.

Anyone out there still asleep?

28 Hulegu Khan  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:49:18am

Yeah, and Arbeit Macht Frei. There were plenty of Nazis and Imperial Japanese who were willing to die for their ideology too. So the United States obliged them, just as the United States is doing for the Islamofascists who wish to die for their ideology today in pig sties like Fallujah.

Is this guy an American citizen? If yes, then he needs to be stripped of his citizenship and shipped off to whatever third world garbage dump that he came from and he too can die for his ideology when the Marines visit his neighborhood.

29 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:49:48am

IGNORE THE POS PLEASE

30 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:49:53am
31 Hankmeister  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:50:05am

"On September 11, 2001, nineteen Arab hijackers too demonstrated their willingness to die - and to kill - for their dream."

More dying for a nightmare. Sorry, but the gloves have to come off. During perilous times like this, people who talk this way really do need a good killing. The poison they've already spread in their madrassas and mosques about Great Satan America and that Allah made Jews "pigs and apes" should be enough reason for the civilized world (or what's left of it) to crush every Islamic thugocracy and terrorist cell in the world.

32 reader  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:50:24am

The continuous application of Romanticism runs through leftist lunacy and Islam's hegemonic dreams. I'm calling you on your bullshit, Shadid. Freedom does not mean freedom to kill. Your argument is as stupid and false as to say Americans should kill innocent Pakistinis so that they may enjoy their rightful freedom at home.

33 Rancher  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:51:03am

How well do I remember learning in history class of Samuel Adams impassioned pleas for the heads of British infidels! Benjamin Franklin’s invention, the Improvised Lighting Rod Device, that was used on collaborators. George Washington’s tactics of not attacking British soldiers, but instead kidnapping their wives and children and executing them after ridicules demands were not met. The way the continental congress made Christianity the only allowable religion. The parallels go on and on.

34 Iron Fist[deleted]  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:51:08am
35 louis  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:51:22am

The American Revolution was about freedom from oppression. The Constitution that was ratified after independence codified our freedoms in the Bill of Rights. We enjoy freedom of the press, freedom of expression, freedom of religion as well as freedom from religion. The Muslim murderers of 9/11 wanted to establish Sharia all over the world. No one would have the right to practice a religion other than Islam without paying a tax and being subservient to one's Muslim masters. Women would be treated as second class citizens. Only newspapaers and magazines approved by the mullahs would be allowed. And this professor from Northeastern sees no difference between terrorists and the framers? That's quite an indictment of our educational system. I hope those parents that are footing the bill at Northeastern will speak to the administration because they are not getting their money's worth with clowns like this spewing nonsense.

36 papijoe  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:51:32am

Take a gander at his website

gratuitous reference to Israel as apartheid state - check

Counterpunch contributor - check

Crappy poetry - check

Blaming US for terrorism - check

yadda, yadda, yadda...

37 Jack Tanner  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:51:51am

Maybe I should stop over at NU and explain the alternative viewpoint to the Prof. By his logic Charles Manson was a freedom fighter willing to kill for what he believed in.

38 golem akbar  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:52:16am

So that's their logic. It's not that they are against a certain type of government, they are against a people. The innocent children or other non-combatants are fair game. It's not freedom they want, because they could have that, democracy and other freedoms, just for the asking. They want Americans to die. They want Jews to die. Think about it.

Democracy? No big deal. Freedom of speech? No! Death to Americans of any age and gender? Yes. Ditto Jews.

Got it.

And #8 Proud Liberals: trolls will be killed by Islamists just like the rest of us. Dude.

39 N.A. PALM  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:52:51am

#4 Beagle

Do you mean one o' them there nuculer JDAMs?

ALL RIGHT! And save one for # 8

40 Smith Space Technologies  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:53:26am

#10 Lightning_Man
Deport him.

Use a chain to drag his sorry ass behind a pick up truck.

41 Intestinal Fortitude  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:53:40am

Warning:

Don't go to Shahid Alam's website if you don't feel like getting really pissed.

42 Rayra[deleted]  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:53:50am
43 Bob with one O  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:54:25am

What troll/ POS? All I noticed was that high pitched whining sound.

44 Model4  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:54:58am
Shahid Alam, professor of economics

Lets see... get someone else to pump that black stuff out of the ground, and let them take some of it. Charge money for this, as much as you can. Explain to other nations why it's their duty to give you additional goods and money for free. Then there's the classics: Slavery, extortion, robbery and bribery. Sounds easier than Basket-weaving 101, sign me up! Although no doubt this includes sitting through a few tirades about how the countries that are economically successful have the wrong economic model, but that's far from rare on campus.

45 save the fox  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:55:04am
After all, skyscrapers and airplanes have co-existed peacefully for many decades.

Is this a new pixar film?

Robin Williams as a loveable, wisecracking 747?

This guy makes as much sense as a mid-orgasm Michael Moore.

46 Carolina Girl  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:55:57am

#30 American Infidel

I hope the one in S.F., conveniently located across the street from my office has them. I'll pick TWO up during my break (I know better half would like one).

Thanks for the info!

47 ibmkeyboard  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:56:18am

#23
yea, and what ever the crap else he is shoving up his nose.

where do they dig up these pieces of shit. and who the hell invited them to teach in american class rooms.

i feel my blood pressure starting to rise.
170/96

48 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:56:22am

"Shahid" means "martyr," does it not?

I suggest we find a way for this professor to live up to his given name.

49 Bob with one O  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:56:48am

Model4,

Take out their water purification plants and sell them water. Along with a nominal service charge.

50 Rayra[deleted]  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:57:01am
51 kayawanee  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:57:11am

#45 save the fox

This guy makes as much sense as a mid-orgasm Michael Moore.

Did you have to put that image of Michael "Pass me some more bags of pork rinds" Moore in my head?

Thanks a lot! =)

52 Orson Buggy  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:57:19am

Hey, Shiitehead Alam,

FUUUuuuUUUck You.

I donate my entire belly button lint collection toward deporting this guy to, say, outer mongolia.

53 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:57:27am

I agree. He must be deported. This IS sedition.

This paper will probably be printed in million of copies and distributed in the HQs of the invaders' army (AKA mosques).

It will inspire new terrorists and comfort the existing cells of cancer.

54 BIG  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:57:27am

I remember reading about the 19 colonist that went to Britain and murdered 3000 British civilans to protest their lack of freedom in the colonies.

But this was the money quote for me:

and who have secretly worked with Israel to complete the dismantling of Palestinian society?"

OK, dismantle Palestinian society? WTF? When was there ever a society to dismantle? Maybe this professor can enlighten us on the once great society that has been dismantled? Maybe he can point to the great accomplishments of Palestinian Arabs through the centuries? Maybe he can find a reference, just one reference to a group of Arabs that called themselves "Palestinians" that is more than a century old?

How do you dismantle something that was a recent creation that never amounted to anything? THe Palestinians are nothing but a death cult that was created to destroy Jews. What makes a Palestinian Arab any different from an Egyptian Arab or a Jordainian Arab? They all speak the same language, pray to the same diety, eat the same food. What makes them different so as to be called a separate society?

55 golem akbar  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:58:31am

Okay, maybe OT, but someone please explain to me (dense in the head) why Islam can defend/support slavery and racism, misogeny, polygamy, and religious intolerance, and yet western liberals and femminists still refuse to denounce them?
I'm not too bright, so 'splain, please.

56 reader  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:58:49am

Muslims don't fight with honor. Why should anyone expect them to live with honor?

57 Rayra[deleted]  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:58:54am
58 Carolina Girl  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:00:05am

#57

Quick! Someone hadn Rayra the Troll-Swatter!

59 Hankmeister  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:00:12am

Proudliberals dotcom,

Gee, instead of generating bogus stereotypical questions you might do yourself(ves) a favor and try to get a clue. Your simplistic stereotypes aren't becoming of a person(s) who use to pride themselves in trying to understanding people and not labeling them with the bigotted narrow-mindedness that you just did. Until you stop being a partisan, self-righteous hypocrite willing to be fair-minded regarding very divisive issues, there's no point in taking your seriously. Besides, when was the last time you got beat with a clue stick? It might help next time to remove your tin-foil hat first.

60 Geepers  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:01:06am
"We engage in this violence against the United States," they say, "because you force us to, because you have failed to act against the American surrogates in your own countries.

World speaks our language and attends our colleges


Because you have failed to act politically and with courage, we send you this message of horror, of shame.

America enjoys view from the top


We advertise your shame before the world. We announce the failure of a billion and a half people - keepers of the Quran and heirs to a moral civilization - to overthrow the craven ruling classes who commit treachery against their own societies, their own history, every day that they cling to power."

America becomes global marketplace


Looks like M. Shahid Alam understands economics anyway.

That's right Shahid, we're crushing you.

61 TimK  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:01:07am

If this dumb bastard is a professor of economics than it is no wonder the the Arab world has such a piss poor economic record.
His inability to make a reasonable analogy is astounding for a man with what must be a considerable academic backround.
He should be checked out to see if he got his diplomas from a mail order operation.

62 golem akbar  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:01:11am

#55 more: Also, add genocide to the list.

63 AG in Houston  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:01:28am

This is wrong on so many levels.

64 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:02:20am

WE MUST

NOT TOLERATE this mistake of nature.

This guy must jump out of this Country.

And we are compassionate, we don't make him jump 100 floors, like the Workers of the Twin Towers had to.

65 Farmer Joe  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:02:30am

Any other Boston area lizardoids feel like going over there and having a little talk with this guy?

66 Beagle  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:02:39am

The dangerous mixture of Islam and artsy-fartsy liberal arts college living are on display. Take the freedoms of the West for granted, while plotting to destroy the West itself.

The colonists broke away because this was economically advantageous to their commercial and landed classes.


Bonus points for class struggle. Marxism is always appropriate analysis in college. Toss in the Labor Theory of Value and the dictatorship of the jihadi proletariat.

Having fun here in the United States, Shahid?

67 Andy in Agoura Hills  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:02:39am

What an a$$h01e this guy is! Look how is describes his personal life:


He lives in a medium-sized suburb 25 miles outside of Boston with his wife, and his two children, who constantly find new ways to bug him.

That's what he wants us to know about his family!?!?!?! They "bug" him!?!?!?!?! What a loving, caring, wonderful husband and father he must be. Ahhh Islam, teaching people how to behave like animals for 500 years.

68 Rayra[deleted]  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:03:06am
69 Carolina Girl  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:03:22am

Northeast alums may want to save this and when they get their annual "give till it hurts" money drive, send it back with a copy of this idjit's comments and say "not while this dickweed's on the faculty."

70 Orson Buggy  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:03:24am

#57 Rayra

You slaughter it, I'll get an oil drum to cook it in. (No sense in soiling a good pan.) Boiled, broiled, baked, smoked or chicken fried?

71 pajamazon  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:04:29am

Is it "Macarthyism" to suggest that some in our universities are agents of our wartime enemy? I continue to ask if Treason can be prosecuted today?

72 hornet  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:04:37am

This man, uh individual is insane. What is he doing teaching at a US university? How many more are there just like him, on the staff of other centres of learning in America. All this garbage simmering below the surface. Tell us how you really feel proffesor. Get rid of him, deport him. What will it take to have a professor deported?

73 BIG  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:04:46am

#61 TimK

If he was teaching his crap to Muslims, no one would care. But this school is located on the northside of Chicago, so we should be concerned.

I hate to admit it, but I attended classes there about 25 years ago.

74 ggt  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:05:07am

I think it is interesting that this person mentioned 2nd Amendment issues as a factor in the Revolution. It is true, although my memory of the exact dates is fuzzy. I know there was a decree forbidding ships with gunpower on them to come to the colonies. Strange we never learned this in school, but this writer seems to know it.

"On April 19, 1775, 700 British troops reached Concord, Massachusetts, to disarm the American colonists who were preparing to start an insurrection."

Yet, we are not disarming citizens in Afganistan and Iraq. We are not fighting to oppress but to free from the tyranny of those who would disarm them.

75 Iron Fist[deleted]  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:05:58am
76 Smith Space Technologies  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:06:20am

#57 Rayra
***

Good I needed to get some dog and cat food but if they won't eat it the hogs and chickens will.

77 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:06:27am

American money SHOULD'T pay the wage of this mistake of nature. He shouldn't have a house here.

78 Geepers  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:07:23am
Subtract two points for each question you skip.

Well I skipped them all.

So what do I get? You didn't post what the results of your dumbass quiz mean.

79 mikeyslaw  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:07:40am

WTF!

80 papijoe  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:07:46am

Here's Shahid in whiney victim mode right after 9-11

Published on Tuesday, December 11, 2001
Race and Visibility:
In the Shadow of September 11
by M. Shahid Alam

When I crossed the border into USA in 1988, after teaching in Canada for two years, I had the curious feeling that my wife, my son and I, still brown-skinned and dark-haired, had somehow become invisible.
I enjoyed this invisibility even at my teaching job at Northeastern University. Yes, there was a little edginess when I first entered a class, a mild dismay, anticipating the strange accents of 'another Indian profes-sor'. For the most part, I managed to lay these fears to rest, and week after week, my students would concentrate on what I had to say, undis-tracted by who said it. But this invisibility proved to be fragile...

When I began to depart from the scripted texts, drawing attention to the ideological intent of economics, its Eurocentric biases and disregard for facts, not a few of my students began to take a harder look at me. My ethnicity and origins began to obstruct their view. I became proof against my own critique. This reminded me of the philosophic Kant's snub: "This fellow was quite black from head to foot, a clear proof that he was stupid."

No the proof that you are stupid is that you expect us to be happy about your support for terrorists. Not to mention your cluelessness at not understanding why your students would want their Econ professor to actually teach economics.

81 Jack is Back!  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:07:50am

NU is a co-op university - 5 years instead of 4. You work a semester go to school a semester. One way to rid yourself of this puke-vermin is to go to the employers and have them shut off the work/study cooperation. This changes everything at NU. Believe me sometimes boycotting or threats of boycotts can work miracles. Ask Jesse Jackson. He's made a fortune on extortion alone.

82 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:08:05am
83 William  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:08:25am
[The muslim terrorists who flew hijacked airliners into 75,000 people sitting at their desks on 9-11] died so that their people might live, free and in dignity.

Because we all know the islamic state set up by "their people" (the taliban) was filled with "freedom" and "dignity" for those living under their rule.

What a lunatic.
 

84 Orson Buggy  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:08:50am

#78 Geepers

I'd prefer to subtract two teeth from the proud asshole's face for each question.

Hand me the pliers ...

85 BIG  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:08:53am

#73 BIG

Sorry. I thought this idiot was from Northeastern Illinois University. Geez, I got all the facts wrong. I could be a film editor for Mike el-Moor or fill the vacancy for the Democratic National Chairman.

86 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:09:26am

Do ordinary, regular American parents who work & save their whole lives to send their kids to "decent" colleges have ANY clue what goes on there?

Not too OT, but has anyone read Mark Bowden's piece in the Atlantic about the Iranian hostage takers in '79? His description of Iran as a "Bizarro World", where Amercan symbols are used to depict evil & crazy conspiracy theories abound, sounds like a typical U.S. college campus.

87 ibmkeyboard  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:09:29am

every time i read horse shit like this, i get a picture of that young marine pointing his gun at that islamfosicat head, and saying

he is dead now.


helps blood pressure go down
156/91

88 Rancher  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:10:01am

#25 Crimsonfisted

And Tom Clancy. Thats how Jack Ryan became prez.

89 NDMNTX  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:10:04am

To echo many other comments, free speech or not, this a$$hat needs to be stripped of any resemblance of citizenship and deported.

90 trigger girlie  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:10:45am

#55 golemakbar,

That's because the LLL has no interest in stopping murder, terror, mutilations, injustice, etc.
I hope this asshole gets hit by a train on his way home.

91 Bob with one O  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:10:58am

Papijoe,


The standard for crappy poetry would be the 1st Clinton innaugaration.

92 William  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:12:09am

#3 writes:

Also, the alumni assoc will no longer get any donations from me until this guy is out of there. Not that they can't live without my $50/year, but still.

Write a letter (not an e-mail) to the University President, and indicate why you are discontinuing your support for the school.


Richard Freeland, University President
Northeastern University
110 Churchill Hall
360 Huntington Ave.
Boston, MA 02115

[Link: www.president.neu.edu...]
 

93 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:12:23am

Eurabia has gone down by tolerating this kind of shit and by keeping the borders open.

We are doing the same, in twenty years we will be in the same shit.

94 papijoe  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:13:37am

Here's the good professor's email address at Northeastern:

m.alam@neu.edu

95 Ed Moran abu GOMEX aob 26.5C  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:13:39am

I'm as big a fan of the OT post as anyone, but what the hell does Proud Asshats comments have to do with anything?

96 Redneck_Dragon  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:14:01am
On September 11, 2001, nineteen Arab hijackers too demonstrated their willingness to die - and to kill - for their dream. They died so that their people might live, free and in dignity.

That Professor's analogy is a total failure.

When did USA own the homelands of those terrorists?

How was Afaghanastan repressed by USA? *rolls eyes*

IIRC those terrorists represented a non-national organisation owing no allegence to any nation or tribe but to a religeous ideology ie Islam (*spits fire on it*).

Some times I wish I were a pagan and a savage so I could do unto mine enemy before he did it unto me. *winks*

97 Orson Buggy  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:14:36am

#95 Ed Moran abu GOMEX aob 26.5C

Proud Moron is a masochist and is here for his daily abuse.

98 RightDad  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:14:42am

Not all revolutions are good ones. These hippie shits don't get it. the U.S. I agree with only one thing this guy said, that the 9/11 attack was the shot heard round the world...but know those POS are hearing the return fire. The U.S. Military are by no means the redcoats. Fisking the rest of the analogy would jsut make me crazy with anger so I won't, but will end by asking the rhetorical question...were the comunist revolutions in Cuba, Central America, South America and SE Asiathe work of 'good' freedom fighters.
"Revolution is defined correct, not by the act of revolution itself but by the sides fighting in it and what each side is fighting for." RightDad 12/20/2004

99 theparson  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:14:45am

This is simply outrageous! Why is this man allowed to live in America?

100 golem akbar  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:15:07am

#89NDMNTX

this a$$hat needs to be stripped of any resemblance of citizenship and deported.


Again, I ask my question: how can liberals not condemn Muslim ideology, which includes racism, slavery, religious intolerance, genocide, misogeny, etc? If they are so much for all that equality and other bs they mouth so often, where are their voices? Sheesh.

101 levi from queens  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:15:29am

I am a Northeastern alumnus, and I am utterly appalled. I shall make by sentiments known to the university after this thread dies and I have gathered all of its thoughts.

102 Blueroom127  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:15:36am

Dignity?

Muslimes?

Freedom?

Yeah right.

Of course, killing american civilians is a great way to live, free and in dignity. By the way, note the grammar and punctuation, the comma before the words "free and in dignity" implies really that " They died so that their people might live." Where and when did the US mass murder muslimes and arabs? Where was the threat to them? I expect professors who might actually be educated, to know better. I am so angry I am not sure I'm being coherent.

103 Carolina Girl  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:15:48am

#97 Orson Buggy

After which he returns to his Beatrix Potter books and finally lets the grownups talk.

104 Abu Maven  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:17:06am

Actually, the rhetorical flourish at the end was what got my blood boiling the most:

Or will the Muslims oppose this new 'civilizing mission' and regain the freedom to shape their destiny in ways that allow the integral Quranic society, just, inclusive, creative, seeking knowledge, taking the middle road, to once again enrich our common human sojourn on earth?

Right, the just, inclusive, middle-of-the-road Koran...

105 mikeyslaw  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:17:08am

#8 proudliberals dot whatever
1. Off-topic
2. Out of context
3. Not reasonably calculated to lead to the discovery of evidence admissible at trial
4. Liberal bullshit


#54 Big
RUN FOR YOUR LIVES! ITS THE JOOOS!

106 octopus  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:17:22am

There is only one solution, for insane "professors" like this tool...a team of Taser-wielding pros is on the way! We have found, that a good dose of impromptu electroshock-therapy, administered on stage, next to the podium, has a powerful therapeutic effect on America-hating loons like this guy. Plus, if it doesn't work, at least you had the satisfaction of watching him flopping around like a fish, screaming in pain.

THE FIELD TASER PROJECT
"Cruel To Be Kind, In The Right Measure"

107 Jack Tanner  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:17:43am

Don't start pouring the eMails into NU. My buddy Henry is the network manager there and doesn't need the aggravation.

108 Orson Buggy  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:17:59am

#103 Carolina Girl

Beatrix Potter writes "Dick and Jane"?

109 Carolina Girl  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:18:02am

#3 Innismir

Know how you feel. As a Cal graduate, every year they send me a request for money. I say no. I only make donations to the Athletics Department, which you can do directly. Since the Cal Bears did well this year, the alumni are pouring money into Tedford's coffers. Must be pissing off the Regents no end.

110 Lokki  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:18:31am

The professor's analogy of September 11th and the American revolunists is slightly faulty.

"When the British ordered them to disperse, the colonists fired back at the British soldiers."


If 19 (or any number) of the American revolutionaries had gone to London and killed thousands of civilian Londoners, then he might have something.

How pathetic he is.

111 Geepers  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:20:03am

Orson Buggy (#84),

Just getting him to respond is like pulling teeth.

He's "proud" alright.

112 Roger  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:20:31am
He lives in a medium-sized suburb 25 miles outside of Boston with his wife, and his two children, who constantly find new ways to bug him.

Thats what he has for the about-himself-page other than pub list. Really touching.

113 [Engineer]  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:21:07am

I jsut posted this comment on that site, using my real name and email. I have had it with these people.

I could spend my time debunking all the lies in this article, but I know it would not change your opinion and that you will continue speaking under the principle of Al-Takeyya.

However, I do wish to make one point. You say "Is America ready to fight a billion and a half people in their own streets, their own squares, their own backyards?" Yes, we are if we have to. We certainly do not wish to do so, but if the ideals of America are at stake, we will. I do hope you know that we could destroy every Muslim country in the world in less than 24 hours if we had to. See here: [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

You might aslo read this: [Link: denbeste.nu...]
It will explain Americans to you.

114 Obi-Wan  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:21:20am

Just remember that the Koran (spit!) advises the faithful to lie to infidels to attain their goals.

That's really all you need to know.

115 Orson Buggy  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:22:10am

#111 Geepers

I did see an easy procedure for pulling teeth on Clan of the Cave Bear. Involves a blow from a stone and a string ...

116 Beagle  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:22:44am

That the Left could compare those who fought for the nation which created the First Amendment to theocratic Islamic terrorists is unsurprising. This happens all the time. But to have Shahid do it is particularly galling.

Re: my #66 - is, not "are" Subject, meet Verb. Verb, Subject, have a beer.

117 Carolina Girl  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:22:53am

#105 mikeyslaw

Not to mention "information already in possession of the [a$$hole]."

118 Jakester  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:23:26am

Here is the scumbag's email if you missed it!

119 Carolina Girl  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:23:59am

#106 Octopus


I always liked that song!

120 golem akbar  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:24:04am

Attention all trolls, and other liberal lurkers of LGF: do you think radical Islam has anything to offer to a world of justice and tolerance? Read what this professor says. He hates democracy. He opposes your so-called liberalism. In his world, you would either be killed or become a second-class citizen.

121 alegrias  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:24:35am

My New Year's Resolution is to help return all who believe democracy is unislamic back to their maker or Fakir or some glassed over place where this tripe passes for deep thought. Send these Wise Men back to the Middle East where all bets are off.

122 Roger  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:25:02am

Well so ya don't need to go to his site to get mad:

The Iraqis have not attacked any American civilians, inside Iraq or elsewhere; they have only targeted American troops. Nor are they not attacking just any American troops. They are attacking only those who have invaded and occupied their country. Why then does the General call the Iraqi guerrillas terrorists, criminals and hired assassins? Perhaps, this is another semantic ploy we have borrowed from the Israelis. The Palestinians are terrorists even when they attack Israeli tanks and armor, even when their only weapons are stones.
123 hornet  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:25:02am

If this professor is not deported, then no one else will be. What does it take?

124 Blueroom127  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:26:05am

#94 papijoe

Just sent him an email. Thanks for the adress.

125 reader  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:26:06am

I just heard something about a bomb found on board a bus in Virginia. This is a just-breaking Fox news story. I don't have any other info, and can't even find this online.

126 reaganyouth  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:26:22am

I absoulutely 100% disagree with professor Shahid Alam.

Suicide is not an act of fighting for freedom, rather an act of fanaticism.
Islam is not a religion of peace, it is a death worshipping cult that
rejects anything outside of it's myopic views.

This is a little clip from Victor Davis Hanson's article on 9/10/2004:

[Link: www.victorhanson.com...]

"Ask yourself: What do a Russian ten-year-old, a poor black farmer in Darfur,
an elderly pensioner in Israel, a stockbroker in New York, and a U.N. aid
worker in Afghanistan have in common? In the last three years, they have all
died in similar ways: Unarmed and civilian, they were murdered by a common
cowardly method fueled by a fascist ideology."

Mohammed Atta & the 18 other death-cult members (ISLAM IS THE CULT) should not have his filthy name spoken in the same day as the great men who
fought & died to build this great country we live in. This Shahid Alam
A*&HOLE have his elbows zip tied together on the fast track to deportation.

127 levi from queens  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:26:31am

Parsson -- I respectfully disagree. Jason Burke, while I substantially disagree with hin, has presented a careful argument that the immediate threat of catastrophic terrorism is small, but that the long term threat is great and made worse by the war in Iraq. I thought his paragraphs on both Saudi Arabia and Israel's relationships to islamic terrorism were precisely correct. What he misses is that you can't beat something with nothing. Bush's (and my) hope and belief is that the taste of democracy in Iraq and Afghanistan will have greater longterm appeal than the wild fantasies of Osama.

He is not in the same league as Alam.

128 golem akbar  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:27:34am

#121 Alegrias

Send these Wise Men back to the Middle East where all bets are off

How about sending them to hell, instead?

129 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:28:10am
130 Eagle  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:28:29am
On September 11, 2001, nineteen Arab hijackers too demonstrated their willingness to die - and to kill - for their dream.

Very true, except it's not true (except in the LLL mindset)

I think it was reported that some of the 19 had no idea what was really going to happen. They knew they were going on a mission, but didn't know the end goal. So to call them heroes who died for their cause is misleading. Purportedly some of them didnt even know what the mission was about. They were just sheep obeying orders.

Freedom Fighters do not have the mentality of sheep. Compare that to the Founding Fathers who actually wrote rational books on what they wanted, and why they wanted it.

131 mikeyslaw  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:29:01am

#117 Carolina Girl

Ah, you are right. Let me add:

5. Burdensome and hararring. The information requested is easily obtainable from public records/other sources.

132 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:29:21am

#8 ProudLiberals dot com

OK, I'm game, and I'm bored

1) Big lie: He calls what he does documentaries

2) He was a self confessed War Criminal who tried to run on his military record.

3) He gave into to North Korea.

4) The Bush Doctrine of confrontation over appeasement

5) overall, the other MSM combined get a higher share than Fox.

6) The Educational system

7) Thru the ACLU, banning the mention of Christian symbols and holidays.

8) Honor your Mother and father

9) More than the number pre-911

10) If a company has the choice between outsorcing labor or going out of business, more American jobs can be saved by outsourcing some work. Foreign drug companies have routinely been found to have impure drugs or cut with other substances to stretch their supply, if not simply offering placebos.

133 Blueroom127  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:29:23am

I recieved a reply from the professor and it was this:

Why is it that the only hateful mail I have received is signed by Levitt,
Hoch or Freedman?


I emailed him this:
You are a disgrace to your position. How dare you state the those people killed that their people "might live, free and in dignity"? Where is your sense of justice and pride in the country that allows real freedom? You tell me what freedom and dignity the women in Afghanistan lived with! I await your reply.

I am a South African living in the US and I witnessed the transition from a one party dictatorship to a free democracy in SA and no children and civilians were slaughtered like bugs to do it. The South African people had nothing to lose yet they lived and died for freedom with real honour and dignity. There is no justifications for terrorism and by doing so, you make yourself complicit in murder. Learn from South African history that one need not use terrorist tactics to achieve goals and then educate yourself professor that one need not justify murder.

Dean Levitt

134 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:29:37am

#123 Hornet

What does it take?

It takes the political will to fight this world war calling it a world war and declaring that islam is invading the West to conquer it.

We are very far from having any leader with that strength and all the mistakes of today will be paid with astronomical interests by our Children.

135 trigger girlie  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:29:48am

Yeah, it would suck for your buddy Henry, but we have to let the President of NU about what goes on in his university.

136 Old Buick Tanker  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:30:12am
95 Ed Moran abu GOMEX aob 26.5C I'm as big a fan of the OT post as anyone, but what the hell does Proud Asshats comments have to do with anything?

/cadence call: ON

"Tank Commander, Tank Commander, what's that sound?
I got a TROLL in the sprocket, goin' 'round and 'round!
Tank Commander, Tank Commander, where's he from?
Moonbeam Planet - Man, they sure are dumb!

/cadence call: OFF

GAZING THROUGH A THERMAL SIGHT

137 Rancher  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:30:50am

#100 golem akbar

Again, I ask my question: how can liberals not condemn Muslim ideology, which includes racism, slavery, religious intolerance, genocide, misogeny, etc? If they are so much for all that equality and other bs they mouth so often, where are their voices?

They are very selective. Some things are only unacceptable if committed by conservative white American males. Even Clinton got a pass on Monica from feminists.

138 Studsup  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:31:11am

Fat Mike is getting more mileage out of his "Minuteman" thing than he probably thought he ever would. Be proud Mikey. Be proud Democrats, these pieces of feces are all yours.

139 Right Brain  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:32:33am

I have two words for this misanthrope:

George Bush

140 secsailor  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:33:42am

#43 Bob with one O

All I noticed was that high pitched whining sound.

I thought that was just Maria Carey on the radio. Must have been mistaken... :-)

141 cybermonk  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:33:55am

#8 POS


here are your answers, but not the ones your fevered moonbat mind want to hear:


1. There are over 56 major lies or misrepresentations in 9/11, where would you like me to start? Using this movie as a proof of anything but how the left lies and distorts the truth is hilarious. Don't even go there.

2. Let's see, it so difficult, how about, xmas in Cambodia, failure to release all his military records even though he said he would, I could go on and on.

3.Let's see, Slick Willie had a chance to get ben laden and passed, he had a chance to kill him and passed, they dropped the ball on the 1993 WTC bombing, the list is endless.

4. He freed millions in Afghanistan and Iraq from cruel dictators and brought freedom to two countries that had none.

5. The highest rated cable news shows (top 5) are all Fox News, you were saying?

6. We don't need to take back the country, we won, remember? We are already in power and our share keeps getting bigger, doesn't that make you swell with pride?

7. Lets see, you want to take out the word God from any public mention, make it a crime to point to the Bibles stand on Homosexuality, make a crime to pray in schools, should I go on, your crusade against religion is relentless.

8. Honor thy father and thy mother, is a biggie.

9. More than you know and more all the time, these type of criminals are not publicized because of the nature of the crime and the methods used to find them. You should be happy they are being caught and put out of business, I am sure you are.

10. I believe you are talking about Canada, which is getting ready to pass a law prohibiting the export of medicine they buy in the US. The mediecines Canada sells in almost exclusively American. So what was your point?

142 Roger  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:34:14am

#130 Eagle - and the Founding Fathers knew when they would be willing to stop after reaching their objective. The islamists do too except it is at a point totally unacceptable by all clear-thinking non-islamists.

143 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:34:39am

Are you people really sending emails to that mistake of Nature ?

It's like sending an email to Stalin !

He will be happy to see that instead of receiving what he really deserves he receives emails !

This is war an this guy is an enemy.
A dangerous enemy, who can cause MUCH evil with his words.

144 composmentis  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:34:59am

You can read this "Economics" Professor's First-Person at this site. It would seem that he prefers to venture far afield from his chosen specialty. He sounds as if he carries one of the world's biggest chips on his biased shoulder.
Will send Email and recommend he study two other minority Economists, Dr. Thomas Sowell and Dr. Walter Williams.

145 mikeyslaw  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:35:13am

#133 Blueroom 127


That was his reply?
You are kidding, right?

146 Abu Maven  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:36:32am

133 Blueroom

Consider printing and saving a copy of your email correspondence and sending it to Northeastern. I mean, this guy doesn't even pretend to hide his anti-Semitism.

147 Roger  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:37:23am

#141 cybermonk

"You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din!"
148 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:37:29am
149 Blueroom127  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:37:59am

#145

No joke. He really sent that to me. No courage to actually reply to the questions.

150 Asylum Aleikum  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:38:58am

There is no sense to argue with [bigoted word]s. Deport the bastard, NOW!

151 trigger girlie  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:39:18am

Blueroom, don't you erase that email. If that is not blatant anti-Semitism, i just don't know what is. Alam is a sick fuckin fuck, pardon my Fwench. I want to email him and sign with some Jewish name. I will put the response back here (so we have more incriminating crap like that).

152 papijoe  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:40:30am

Here you will find about the professor's attempts to create a Judenrein Palestine.

I feel the need to shower now.

153 Bob with one O  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:40:57am

Secsailor,

I'll change my station. Maybe it was Mariah.

: )

154 CC Señor  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:41:19am

This sort of argument makes you realize what a remarable fellow the Continental Soldier was. But it really galls me that idiots from the left like the "good" professor and MM try to equate terrorists with patriots fighting for freedom.

155 Jakester  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:41:28am

#133
Hoch is a German name, it means High!

156 trigger girlie  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:41:56am

I can't find the contact email on his site. Help me out, fellas!

157 TotallySirius  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:42:14am

#141 cybermonk

Excellent answers to proudmoonbat.com's questions,although my favorite commandment is "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor"(for those of you in Rio Linda that means don't lie about other people).

158 Firebreather  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:42:16am

Well, the Muslims are just getting their talking points from Mik Al-Moore again...Chomsky & the dearly departed Susan Sontag compared 9/11 to the French Revolution, equating the downing of the Twin Towers and the Pentagon with the beheading of Marie Antoinette. Nothing this Muslim is saying would sound strange on an American college campus-- professors and their student acolytes been saying the same for years.

159 mikeyslaw  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:44:03am

#149 Blueroom 127

Levitt, Hoch, Freedman.
Holy shit, its a Joooish conspiracy.
Don't waste any time on this dimwit, he isn't worth it.
But does anyone doubt that there aren't plenty more just like him, lurking in the halls of ivy?

160 Iron Fist[deleted]  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:44:59am
161 ProudLiberals dot com  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:45:03am

Thanks Karagar. Very enlightening.

162 Blueroom127  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:45:08am

#151 trigger girlie

I am printing it out and later will call Northeastern to find out who I can talk to. I am also taking a trip to Boston in the new year and will seek to meet the Dean or the president or someone in charge.

163 William  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:45:32am

A related item:

Kris Wampler was one of three students who sued the University of North Carolina over a requirement that incoming students read the Quran before coming to campus.

[Link: www.cnn.com...]


CNN frames this as a "Christian" and "conservative" issue, shifting the focus from where it belongs -- academia.
 

164 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:45:51am
165 Geepers  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:46:34am

Send the good professor your thoughts of calling our founding fathers murderers and racicists:

m.alam@neu.edu

166 FlyingTigress  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:47:11am
I remember reading about the 19 colonist that went to Britain and murdered 3000 British civilans to protest their lack of freedom in the colonies.

Folks, I'm going to write my first "flamer" here, not because we don't know what I'm about to say, but, because there has been just too much made about the fact that 3000 Americans and foreign nationals in our homeland were killed on 9/11/01 -- and because the trolls have used that number as a point of comparison to the casualties that have -- admittedly -- occured during Operations Enduring Freedom and Iraqi Freedom.

G_ddammit... if those 19 asshats had had they way, hit the WTC a (first) half-hour and then an hour later once most of the workers had shown up, had not a group of heroic fightfighters and police officers responded and gotten most of the people down out from below the floors that were hit, had not a group of determined passengers on Flt. 93 prevented them from hitting DC, the casualities that morning would not have been 3,000 but 30,000... 40,000... 50,000 or more.

167 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:47:14am

#158 Firebreather

The American pinkos are another problem and, without the help of their islamofascist friends, aren't dangerous.

But this muslim who comes here, gets OUR money, lives in OUR towns and spits in the face of the Victims of September Eleven must not be tolerated.

168 Abu Maven  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:47:19am

151 trigger,

No need to resort to fraud. That's akin to entrapment. The professor has already incriminated himself

155 Jakester,

Many Jewish names are derived from German, and the professor was clearly implying that "Hoch" was a Jewish name.

169 cybermonk  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:47:38am

#147 Roger

Each according to our gifts, we all have something to contribute.

170 Blueroom127  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:47:47am

#156 trigger girlie

m.alam@neu.edu
Have fun!
Thanks to papijoe

171 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:48:30am
172 Occasional Reader  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:49:49am

So, I assume that one of these campus "hate speech" codes so loved by LLLs is about to be activated at Northeastern over this loathsome essay, right?

[crickets]

173 Chris Allen  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:50:48am

#80 papijoe:

When I began to depart from the scripted texts, drawing attention to the ideological intent of economics, its Eurocentric biases and disregard for facts, not a few of my students began to take a harder look at me. My ethnicity and origins began to obstruct their view...

Translation: "If you disagree with my anti-Western, anti-capitalist views, you're a racist." Par for the course, as I see it.

174 trigger girlie  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:53:15am

Blueroom, we stand behind you and good luck! Don't forget boxing gloves, just in case :) Geepers, thank you very much. The "Profezzor" will be receiving an email shortly.
Also, signing with a fake name is not a fraud. The outcome would be the same be it a real name, or not. It does not change anything.

175 One-Eyed Undertaker  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:53:33am

Why isn't it a scandal that such a person teaches at an American university? How can the faculty and students of Northeastern stand inhabiting the same space as this scumbag?

They wouldn't tolderate it if he were a racist, or made some insensitive remark about women. WTF is wrong with our country? I'm sorry, I have an ulcer and I don't think I can take any more of this.

176 FlyingTigress  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:54:44am

#166

PIMF "..." had their way..."

177 Geepers  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:56:53am

Occasional Reader (#172),

I think you have to have white skin or an (R) after your name for those bylines to be enforced.

178 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:57:13am

161 Troll du jour

At least spell my name right you ignorant arrogant shithead.

179 hornet  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:58:07am

Send your e-mails and sign them "Eza Mohammed Abdul Mohammed" (or some other variation). That will get him totally confused. /sarcasm off

180 Abu Maven  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:58:08am

174 trigger,

I disagree with you, but putting that aside, perhaps it would be valuable to show that it is not only Jewish-Americans who find offensive the notion that 9/11 is any way comparable to the American Revolution.

In any event, by now, he's has probably been made aware of the existence of this thread, and will unlikely fall into that trap again.

181 Beagle  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:58:26am

#172 Occasional Reader

So, I assume that one of these campus "hate speech" codes so loved by LLLs is about to be activated at Northeastern over this loathsome essay, right?

[crickets]


No. But any angry e-mails to Shahid, or any public anger over his moderate Islamic views, will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Remember, the First Amendment was written to protect those who would use it to light a fuse in the Library of Congress. Anyone who e-mails him will be termed "threatening" and all criticism will be described as "attempts to deny his First Amendment rights."

Shahid is just expressing the emotions of many brown people who were born into oil rich but cash poor lands where Islamic freedoms are protected. Non-Muslims are protected by Islam, pay the appropriate taxes, and the Jews are 95% responsible for everything. Remember, there is no compulsion in religion.

Ignore the guy with the machete behind the curtain. Aisha was swinging one of those around last night.

182 Charles  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:58:43am

Blueroom127: would you please forward that email to me?

charles at littlegreenfootballs.com

I'd like to update this post with that outrageous reply.

183 Craig Abu Al-Boo-Boo  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:58:56am

The guy's just another pseudo-educated Islamofascist who propagandizes that Israel is waging a war against Arabs.

Deport him.

184 RightDad  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:59:37am

You guys should go see Neal Boortz site this morning. I link to it from Michelle Malkins blog roll.
Boortz has a photo of a guy in Tidal Wave land with a Bin Laden T-shirt...no kidding...We will spend a Billion dollarts in time logistics, military, and relief aid for thes fricking people...wonder how much Bin Laden is spending to help his loyal RoP followers.
Are we dumb or what...Ok back to reality, hearts and minds..hearts and minds, awe screw it my therapist shit isn't working either...going to the shooting range ..working on my grouping always helps...

185 Abu Maven  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:00:21am

182,

Excellent, Charles. I was going to suggest that.

186 Raziel (Troll Devouring Blader)  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:00:25am

Is this guy trying to make a islamic remake of "BraveHeart"?

On September 11, 2001, nineteen Arab hijackers too demonstrated their willingness to die - and to kill - for their dream. They died so that their people might live, free and in dignity.

"... and then just as the battle was under way, another 2 groups of Drunk, Mutton-Vindaloo scoffing, Scotsmen ploughed into a large group of Englishmen on both side's. Then suddenly after 10 and a half minutes it was all over, the Scotsmen seem to be blowing up like I have not seen before. I guess it was a bad Curry,

Allah Akbar! (Allah is Greater)."

187 RebeccaH  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:01:14am

On September 11, 2001, nineteen Arab hijackers too demonstrated their willingness to die - and to kill - for their dream. They died so that their people might live, free and in dignity.

Actually, the little turd speaks more truth than he knows. Those nineteen hijacking bastards were actually setting their people free from the superstitious, Allah-besotted swamp they believed in, because September 11 set in motion forces and events that will eventually transform the Middle East from the stinking sinkhole it is into a region of democracy and economic progress. And people like Professor Alam will have to sit back in bitterness and watch it happen, unable to do more than bark moonbat slogans.

188 Blueroom127  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:01:57am

#171 American Infidel

All your advice is noted down and I will send his reply to everywhere I can think.

He has since replied to me. I asked him to copy and paste the "Hate" in my email to him and instead he forwarded me and email he got from someone else that insults him. I simply asked him again to respond to my email and pointed out to him that he supports murder.

189 Blueroom127  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:02:58am

#182 Charles

Sure.

190 Old Buick Tanker  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:03:41am

133 Blueroom127

Well, I just emailed the "Hammer of Nekama" (thanks, Iron Fist!) to the asshat at NU. Had to update some of the links, but I'll post any reply I get here.

BTW, my last name is Myers, which is about as German as you can get. Wonder what he'll make of that?

191 frankwolftown  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:03:47am

When things like this happen it can only backfire on the proffesors and Universities. It's already happening now with more conservative students are akready ighting back. Just wait and see the there numbers go down. Once the students stop coming in and the money doesn't come in with it. Just as what's happening with publlic schools. Were Parnets are tired of crappy publlic education they go somwhere else. So potetial college student will go somewhere else. Then the Dean will start screaming "Reform Tenure be Damned!" It's just on the horizen I think. (Once a link for that story comes someone let me know, wil ya? I'll be having some tacos in the meantime.)

192 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:03:58am
193 Partisan  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:04:19am

#182 Charles,

Make sure you get all the original mail headers. This should keep the professor from claiming he's the victim of an impostor.

194 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:05:29am

#186 Raziel TDB

Allah Akbar!

The correct version is

ALOHA SNACKBAR

195 composmentis  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:05:31am

# ProudLiberals dot com

I scored a 10 with the same answer to each question, as follows:

You would not understand if I explained it to you all day.

196 gymnast  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:06:05am

It is really difficult to take an institution of higher learning seriously when they permit persons with obvious phychological problems to manipulate the minds of students. What is the cost of an education at Northeastern? Why are people crazy enough to pay for the intellectual destruction of their children and nation? There appears to be a need to reform tenure and "academic freedom" in the academy. The nuts have taken over the nuthouse.

197 Craig Abu Al-Boo-Boo  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:06:13am

Blueroom127,

Don't expect any intellectual honesty from a man who pretends that the Arabs haven't been waging a war of extermination against Christians and Jews from the time Mohammed crafted the Islamic superstition.

198 papijoe  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:06:58am

Here's my email to the professor:

Professor

Your attempt in this article to equate the founders of our country with terrorists is repugnant. I've done a survey of your works on the Internet and come to the conclusion that you are as dedicated to enjoying all the benefits of this country as you are to attacking it's foundations. In biology this is called parasitism. I've forwarded your article to all of the Northeastern alumni I know and asked them to do
the same.

Enjoy the rest of your tenure. I hope it will be brief.


papijoe

199 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:08:08am

#194 Poitiers-Lepanto

Are you sure they didn't say Admiral Ackbar, the fish guy from Return of the Jedi?

200 Athos  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:09:26am

For a professsor, this asshat is as intellectually and morally bankrupt as that troll du jour - deludedliberaldotcom.

201 composmentis  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:09:48am

#192 Ploome Hineni

I glanced at a couple of other things he had written, but decidided that I could not digest any more of his S**T if I were a Dung Beetle>

202 composmentis  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:10:43am

PIMF Decided

203 piglet  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:11:37am
Are you sure they didn't say Admiral Ackbar, the fish guy from Return of the Jedi?

If believe they prefer to be called Mon Calimari:




Homeworld:
Mon Calamari

Height:
1.7 meters

Diet:
omnivorous

Vehicle:
Mon Calamari star cruiser


The Mon Calamari are said to be the soul of the Rebel Alliance. The Empire pressed these gentle, amphibious people into war by subjugating their watery world. In retaliation, the Mon Calamari became one of the key species of the Rebellion, supplying badly needed warships to the outnumbered Alliance fleet.
The most respected of the Alliance Mon Calamari is Admiral Ackbar, leader of the fleet. The stern gravelly-voiced tacticians led the fleet as it engaged the Empire at the critical Battle of Endor.

The Mon Calamari people are humanoid, about 1.7 meters tall. They have salmon-colored skin, high-domed heads, webbed hands and large, goggle-like eyes.

[Link: www.starwars.com...]

204 1ConservativeLawyer  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:11:57am

#198 papijoe--that was an excellent email. I am way too far from being calm to be able to email anything to this moron right now.

205 Blueroom127  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:12:24am

Update: his next reply to me:


A few points:

(a) If the founding fathers had lost, the British would have hanged them as
traitors -- as terrorists (if the terminology existed then). 'Our' freedom
fighters are your 'terrorists.' (I would have joined the founding fathers
-- if I were a colonist.)

(b) The South African freedom fighters were called "terrorists" by the SA
government.

(c) You presume to define "dignity and freedom" for others -- for Afghan
women. This is racism.

(d) The most basic freedom the Islamic peoples demand is the freedom from
American-imposed tyrannies.

(e) US is fighting an illegal war -- and they have already killed more than
100,000 Iraqis already.

(f) In Vietnam, we killed more than 3,000,000 Vietnamese civilians. Did the
Vietnamese attack or threaten US?

206 Raziel (Troll Devouring Blader)  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:12:49am

194) Poitiers-Lepanto

I thought it was Alien's Muckbar?

207 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:14:04am

Noam Chomsky liked Shahid Alam's book.

"M. Shahid Alam's enterprise of forcing the "legacies of history" into the "daylight of consciousness" in the West is informed by deep understanding of the cultural and economic history of Islamic and European societies, and of influential contemporary scholarship and debate."

Noam Chomsky

Too bad we can't deport the both of them.

208 Nomorelies  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:14:56am

Where the hell is Joseph McCarthy when we need him?
This guy is worse than a commie.

209 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:15:48am

#205 Blueroom 127

And this guy teaches in an American University ?
He couldn't discuss in a kindergarden.

SPIT

210 1ConservativeLawyer  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:15:53am

"professor" jerk says 100,000 Iraquis have been killed already? Notice how he doesn't separate the terrorists from the civilians? To say nothing of the fallacy of the figure he's using if he is just talking about totally innocent civilians.

211 Bob with one O  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:16:36am

Blueroom,

For a relatively new guy, you sure hooked a big one.

Congratulations.

212 Sean II  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:16:46am

OT: Seems Ridley Scott's latest firlm to be released in the spring is gonna rile our friends the Moooslims . It is about the Crusaders heroic battle in Jerusalem against Saladin's invading army. It is already starting to generate a stir among the Multi cultis on the left coast.

Kingdom of Heaven

213 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:16:53am

#203 piglet

If believe they prefer to be called Mon Calimari:

Some call them Mon Calamari, I call them delicous.

Of course I always played a Trandoshan in the various games

SWG Trandoshan

214 William  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:17:06am
You presume to define "dignity and freedom" for others -- for Afghan women. This is racism.

Wow.

As noted earlier, a lunatic.
 

215 Beagle  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:17:47am

#207 Ringo the Gringo

Too bad we can't deport the both of them.

Deport Chomsky to Vermont, Shahid to Saudi Arabia. Vermont is part of Canada, right?

216 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:17:54am

#152 papijoe:

All the ingredients are there, starting with the mythical "massacres" in Jenin.

And his bit about being just another "brown-skinned" victim fits right in with the agenda.

When will these people learn that it's not the color of their skin, but the content of their paltry minds that makes us dismiss them? An idiot is an idiot, whether, white, brown, red, black of parti-colored.

217 golem akbar  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:18:22am

#194 Poitiers

ALOHA SNACKBAR

That's my distant cousin!
(lol -- thanks for that)

218 Studsup  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:18:59am

This Jihadi should stick to economics because his alleged history of the causes of our revolution is replete with errors and omissions. Among the omissions is any reference to religious freedom from the Crown's mandated supremacy of the Church of England -- how convenient that an advocate for a global theocracy would forget about that.

With two more kids soon going to college, it's nice to know that Northeastern can be scratched off the list.

219 1ConservativeLawyer  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:19:14am

Forgot to add that he also says "they" have killed...when talking about our troops. Hmmm...he's living here sucking up our money and resources but says "they". If you really want to separate yourself from the U.S., then do it. Leave. Now. And don't get your robe caught in the door on your way out.

220 Powderfinger  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:20:06am
(c) You presume to define "dignity and freedom" for others -- for Afghan

OK, my dictionary is racist. I don't see anything under freedom or dignity that either has anything to do with being beaten for showing an ankle, or being shot in the head because you lipped off.

#65 Farmer Joe

Let's roll. I'll bring the sausage. Pork, of course.

221 Abu Maven  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:20:08am

The most basic freedom the Islamic peoples demand is the freedom from American-imposed tyrannies.

Yep, it's obvious that the jihad going on in Thailand, Chechnya, China, Ethiopia, etc. is merely an attempt by Islamic peoples to obtain freedom from American-imposed tyrannies.

222 WarBicycle  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:20:14am

After the War on Terror is won, we have to have a War on Academia in order to rid our schools and universities of this type of scum.

223 RightDad  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:20:28am

#191
I agree with you, the younger folks are beginning to push back against the LLL ownership of education. It is no surprise that the Young people of the Reagan Revolution 80-92 are putting their conservative cchildren through school and these kids are hitting college. More trickle down from the Reagan dynasty.
The problem is that Those who do - do, those that can't do - teach and those that can't teach - get tenure.
the other problem is that outside of christian conservative Universities there are not many highly respected conservative Universities out there. In fact, it is my thought that colleges are operating at less than capacity and that prices for education are only supported by government subsidies. This causes too much money artificially inflating the price of an over-supplied market. As a result, Very smart businessmen and some conservatives could really be successful with Conservative Major University.
Imagine how weel our kids could compete in world markets if they got educated vs. indoctrinated and came out of school knowing conservative princaples and debunking LLL propoganda. Instead they have to get crushed by the real world, paying taxes, rent, mortgages, fail at jobs, and put the weed down and grow up...finally understanding that the LLL commrades professors were all wrong.

224 Geepers  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:21:11am

Blueroom127 (#205),

Wow.

The "Professor" is kinda dumb ain't he?

That, or he thinks we're all idiots.

225 papijoe  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:21:36am

#216 Cato the Elder

My "brownskinned" wife would give him a swift kick in the jimmies after a few colorful spanish epithets and tell him to get the hell out of her beloved adopted country.

Pissant.

226 Athos  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:21:36am

#205 Blueroom 127

Unbelievable. If it were worth the time, and would do any good, this asshat could benefit from a serious fisking.

But, it appears that no amount of logic and or facts would derail his DU / DNC talking points, racism, and hatred.

Of course, nimrods like this have no problem living in the US, enjoying (and abusing) the freedoms provided, while venting their hatred and glorifying those who want to destroy the country.

227 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:23:19am
You presume to define "dignity and freedom" for others -- for Afghan women. This is racism.

So, the American and French revolution and the UN, that declare that there are Universal Rights, are RACIST.

And we pay him to say these things.

I don't know who is more idiot, we who pay or he who blathers.

228 Blueroom127  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:23:50am

Can people please suggest good responses to his ridiculous points? I am so furious and flabbergasted at his spurious ideals I can barely think anymore.

229 Blueroom127  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:25:14am

PIMF
I meant ideas not ideal

230 Yossarian  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:25:28am

*sigh* The WaPo had several op-eds a few weeks back about the lack of conservative profs at leading universities, and of course the authors thought it was hilarious that people were complaining about the prevalence of left-wing professors. People like Alam are precisely why we conservatives worry about the college experience. The effect such professors have on impressionable, idealistic college students can be devastating.

231 Abu Maven  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:26:50am

228 Blueroom,

See my response in 221 for starters.

232 rightasrain  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:27:08am
On September 11, 2001, nineteen Arab hijackers too demonstrated their willingness to die - and to kill - for their dream. They died so that their people might live, free and in dignity.

What freedom? What dignity?

For that matter, what LIVING when Islamist societies teach their own children to want to commit suicide?!?!?

They have ZERO idea what it means to be free or to have dignity.

Women not only get covered from head to toe in these repressive Islamist societies, but they get brutally murdered by their own families if SUSPECTED of having the chance to be alone with a man. These honor killings are VICIOUS, too (not some sort of mercy killing.)

Societies that tell their own children to commit suicide and that kill their own families' women for the family's supposed "HONOR" are not free or living in dignity in any way.

What the 9/11 skydevils REALLY tried to do was to take our lives, our freedom and our dignity FROM US.

This guy ought to be booted off campus. Apparently, he's not ready to live free or in dignity yet himself. He should go back to the Islamist nations and join those who he admires so much.

This article is DISGUSTING!

233 [Engineer]  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:27:22am

#223 RightDad

The problem is that Those who do - do, those that can't do - teach and those that can't teach - get tenure.

I had always here that as

Those who do - do, those that can't do - teach and those that can't teach, teach teachers
234 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:27:35am

#220 Powderfinger

OK, my dictionary is racist

Burn it, everything you need to know is in the Koran and in the Collected Works of Noam Chomsky.

Or keep it, wait a while and the redfascists and the islamofascists will burn it for you. And they will call that "freedom"...

235 Yossarian  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:27:44am

Blueroom127: I would suggest to him that he read the Declaration of Independence and the Federalist Papers, as he obviously has not read either of them.

236 [Engineer]  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:28:16am

here = heard
PIMF

237 Lightning_Man  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:28:21am

#205 Blueroom127

Not that you need the help, but if I may...

(a) If the founding fathers had lost, the British would have hanged them as traitors -- as terrorists (if the terminology existed then). 'Our' freedom fighters are your 'terrorists.' (I would have joined the founding fathers -- if I were a colonist.)

An American conservative philosopher once said "Words mean things." That is to say, that terrorist is not synonymous with either traitor or "freedom fighter." A terrorist is one who tries to accomplish his aims by terrorizing a populace. That most assuredly is not what George Washington et al did.

(b) The South African freedom fighters were called "terrorists" by the SA government.

Now that you know what the word means, were they?

(c) You presume to define "dignity and freedom" for others -- for Afghan women. This is racism.

Go to [Link: www.m-w.com...] and learn what the word racism means.

(d) The most basic freedom the Islamic peoples demand is the freedom from American-imposed tyrannies.

Where are these tyrannies?

(e) US is fighting an illegal war -- and they have already killed more than 100,000 Iraqis already.

Saddam was in defiance of the terms of the end of the Gulf War. Under that UN resolutions and several that followed, the US was perfectly entitled to take the actions it did.

(f) In Vietnam, we killed more than 3,000,000 Vietnamese civilians. Did the Vietnamese attack or threaten [the] US?

No. And your point?

238 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:28:44am

# 212 Sean II:

Woo-hoo! A Crusader movie, with Orlando Bloom.

Could we make the hidden meaning behind "Lord of the Rings" more explicit?

Sauron = Mohamet
Mordor = the Arabian Peninsula
Saruman = Western dhimmi "wise men"
Gandalf = Robert Spencer

etc.

(Or make up your own correspondences.)

At any rate, I can't wait for "Kingdom of Heaven."

239 Beagle  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:29:40am

Shahid is pretty good at Left-academic-Marxism. I'll just classify the arguments.

(a) If the founding fathers had lost, the British would have hanged them as traitors -- as terrorists (if the terminology existed then). 'Our' freedom fighters are your 'terrorists.' (I would have joined the founding fathers -- if I were a colonist.)

(b) The South African freedom fighters were called "terrorists" by the SA government.

(c) You presume to define "dignity and freedom" for others -- for Afghan women. This is racism.

(d) The most basic freedom the Islamic peoples demand is the freedom from American-imposed tyrannies.

(e) US is fighting an illegal war -- and they have already killed more than 100,000 Iraqis already.

(f) In Vietnam, we killed more than 3,000,000 Vietnamese civilians. Did the Vietnamese attack or threaten US?


(a) That's a great historical hypothetical to distract us from the real issues facing us in modern Islam.

(b) The usual "all freedom fighters are terrorists" and so on. The basic moral equivalence presumption rendering all factual distinctions useless. Proceed to dogma.

(c) Afghan women had no say under the Taliban. They could be shot for leaving the house or showing too much ankle. Shahid is probably not a good first date. Ladies, take note.

(d) Homeland Security, that's S-H-A-H-I-D.

(e) The Lancet will win the 2004 creative statistics award. The way the number spread like wildfire through the entire Left should be looked at by political scientists, or actual scientists, who study bad science and the dissemination of urban legends.

(f) Standard hard Left "Communism is wonderful" stuff. No questioning of Chinese, Soviet, or North Vietnamese actions.

240 idaholiberal  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:29:54am

So if:
Colonists = Terrorists
Then:
Mohammed = Manson?

(Marilyn or Charlie, take your pick.)

I recommend everyone send the professor an email asking him if this equation is true.

241 ajf  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:31:08am

This jackasses' son is no prize either:

M. Junaid Alam

242 Roger  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:32:30am

Charles, one feature blogs will need someday is more content managment. In the case of #228 Blueroom127, a group of commenters could get their heads together to draft a doc wiki style.

Just a small suggestion for the suggestion box.

243 Geepers  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:34:05am

Blueroom127 (#228),

Attempting te refute this guy is pointless. He's not only lacking fundamental understanding of the history he's attempting to use as justification for his fellow muslims murderous actions but repeats known propaganda.

I would suggest just continuing to ask him questions that he'll respond to. He'll condemn himself by his replies.

This one's fun: "Will you denounce suicide bombers?"

244 Ravdoctor  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:34:23am

Write/email to Northeastern U Pres. Freeland at:
[Link: 155.33.227.141...]

Office of the President
Northeastern University
110 Churchill Hall
360 Huntington Ave.
Boston, MA 02115

or by fax at:

(617) 373-5015
Can't hurt, right?

245 Blueroom127  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:34:59am

Thanks everyone. I am taking note of all your responses and use them. Thanks a lot!

246 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:35:01am

#237 Lightning _Man

I disagree with your answer about Vietnam: the global attack of Communism had to be contained because it was a THREAT to America and to Freedom in general. The North Vietnamese attack against South Vietnam was directly a threat to us.

247 1ConservativeLawyer  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:35:35am

Sure wish the guys at Iraq the Model could respond to this idiot.

248 Smartalice  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:35:56am

I wonder if any Northeastern University grads died on 9/11?

Anyone know or have an idea how to find out?

249 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:37:21am

#243 Geepers

You make me think to another question for the so called professor:

Should you come to know about an act of terrorism that is being organized against the United States, would you inform the Law Enforcement Agencies ?

250 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:37:41am
251 JohnConnor[deleted]  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:40:02am
252 gymnast  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:40:37am

Mosques in America, places of worship and outposts of Islamism. What is the Friday fanatic going to urge upon his followers in your hometown tomorrow? I am sure that everyone is welcome at the noon service.

253 Powderfinger  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:42:18am

3228 blueroom

Use what you like. Nice job, lizard!


(a) If the founding fathers had lost, the British would have hanged them as
traitors -- as terrorists (if the terminology existed then). 'Our' freedom
fighters are your 'terrorists.' (I would have joined the founding fathers
-- if I were a colonist.)

The American Revolution didn't include going to London to slaughter civilians.

(b) The South African freedom fighters were called "terrorists" by the SA
government.

South African freedom fighters did not mass murder civilians for effect.


(c) You presume to define "dignity and freedom" for others -- for Afghan
women. This is racism.

No, this is semantics. If I force you into a burqua, and beat you if you fail to maintain complete invisibility under your sack, are you free and dignified? Your contention is ridiculous, but I'm wondering: What race is offended under your charge of racism?

(d) The most basic freedom the Islamic peoples demand is the freedom from
American-imposed tyrannies.

Which Islamic tyrannies are American imposed?


(e) US is fighting an illegal war -- and they have already killed more than
100,000 Iraqis already.

What law was broken? UN Security Council Resolution 1441 offerred Saddam a final opportunity to provide complete access and a complete accounting of his compliance with previous resolutions. It also gave member nations the right to impose compliance by whatever means necessary. What makes Operation Iraqi Freedom illegal?

How many of those you cite as killed were killed by Muslims?

(f) In Vietnam, we killed more than 3,000,000 Vietnamese civilians. Did the
Vietnamese attack or threaten US?

North Vietnamese civilian casualties were 2 million. However, once we withdrew, the slaughter 3 million plus began. North Vietnam attacked South Vietnam, an American ally. Perhaps you'll understand the concept of alliance when you ponder what the Saudi mujahadeen you so adore were doing in Afghanistan with the Taliban.

254 Roger  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:42:31am

#205 Blueroom127 - I agree with Geepers. Ask more questions.

255 Boston Patriot  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:42:54am

"On September 11, 2001, nineteen Arab hijackers...died so that their people might live, free..."

Wow. The concepts of Freedom and Rights have been so completely destroyed by American Professors it's no wonder young people come out of college completely clueless. We now see the grotesque spectacle of tenured Professors in American Universities explicitly equating Freedom and Theocracy.

The Universities must be purged of gross irrationality and philosophic skepticism- and replaced by reason. It is not the politicians who will destroy us, they are merely products of the educational system, it is professors like this idiot who will be the death of us all.

256 Killer Tomato  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:44:52am

Jaysus, Mary & Joseph - $26,000 a year to go get indoctrinated at this bastion of higher learning? And the best the brilliant instructors can come up with by way of argument is the tired, knee-jerk cry of racism when someone doesn't agree with them. If I'd graduated from there, I'd ask for a refund.

257 annelid[deleted]  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:45:21am
258 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:46:30am

Blueroom127,

Maybe this can help you with the accusation that the U.S. is responsible for 100,000 deaths in Iraq :

Bad Numbers

259 Powderfinger  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:46:55am
"On September 11, 2001, nineteen Arab hijackers...died so that their people might live, free..."

Well, that part worked, though not they way they were hoping it would. :-)

260 Abu Maven  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:48:18am

245 Blue Room

I forgot -- the jihad in Kashmir is another example of Islamic peoples trying to free themselves from American oppression.

261 Intestinal Fortitude  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:49:30am

#205 Blueroom 127

Sounds like you got the professor confused:

'Our' freedom fighters are your our 'terrorists.' (I would have joined the founding fathers-- if I were a colonist.)
262 hm  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:50:12am

The only thing hateful about Dean Levitt (#133) email is the response he got to it.

But, being a mere plebs, I guess its that moral high ground thing again and I just don't understand...

263 timdiener  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:50:27am

I just emailed the 'Jihadi/Patriot' professor this:

***

"Why is it that the only hateful mail I have received is signed by Levitt, Hoch or Freedman?"

m.alam@neu.edu


***

Nice comment there, professor!

Very illuminating too!

Love that anti-semitism thing, that is so ingrained in the Muslim culture. Real nice, sir. Someone writes to you with criticism of your documented terrorist sympathies, and all you have in response is a 'Jew baiting' remark?! Very endearing, truly!

(Jew hating... truly an awful blight on your people and culture.)


No, nothing could be more UN-American than that.

***

264 idaholiberal  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:50:44am

#258
Even if the numbers were correct, under the theory of the professor, if you kill innocents in the name of a cause, you are a freedom fighter.
That is what the US is, one big well armed freedom fighter.

265 TMF  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:54:10am

It would be a real shame if the good professor was, like decapitated in a car accident over the New Years holiday weekend.

A real shame. I honestly and truthfully hope that doesn't happen.

266 AG in Houston  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:55:04am

I am not surprised by the idiots jew hating remark.

I come to expect it from most Muslim/Arab/Leftist academics and students.

Is there some kind of secret orgy that jew haters engage in? I am just curious. Why is it so intoxicating that it can take over one's life.

Someone with insight, preferrably jew haters, please answer.

I want to know my enemy.

267 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:55:17am
268 Millie Woods  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 8:59:33am

I'm going to add to the jihadi scum's hate mail in which I will not only point out that my surname is not one of the select few the disgusting excuse for a human being mentions. I will also add that I am married to an ordained minister of the Anglican church who ran a dual career as an aerospace engineer and that this man shares my views about the pseudo faith the loathsome creature from Northeastern adheres to.

269 Eagle  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:05:38am

#235 Yossarian

(or anyone else that can help me on this one)

Can anyone give me an Amazon link to the Federalist Papers? I've been wanting to read it for a long time, but it seems there are many different copies and versions. When I enter "Federalist Papers" in my local bookstore, or at Amazon, I get many hits. I really dont want to buy the Marxist version...

270 Lightning_Man  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:07:04am

#246 Poitiers-Lepanto

#237 Lightning _Man

I disagree with your answer about Vietnam: the global attack of Communism had to be contained because it was a THREAT to America and to Freedom in general. The North Vietnamese attack against South Vietnam was directly a threat to us.

Note that I do not say the war in Vietnam was not justified. He asked specifically if Vietnam attacked us. They didn't. But the Vietnam war is pointless in the context of what he is asserting otherwise and what Bluemoon is refuting.

IMO, the Vietnam war was plenty justified and ultimately has been helpful in that we will never lose a war due to squeamishness again.

271 kstagger  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:07:53am
On September 11, 2001, nineteen Arab hijackers too demonstrated their willingness to die - and to kill - for their dream. They died so that their people might live, free and in dignity

What can I say? This guy is a professor? What freedom are they fighting for? That vast democratic Middle East? What dignity? The dignity of Sharia Law?

Deport this fool so he can enjoy his 'dignity' and 'freedom' elsewhere.

272 Ed Moran abu GOMEX aob 26.5C  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:09:51am

Ok, I emailed.

I did remove the phone number from my autosignature so I don't get a long distance fatwa from Boston.

Um, when did George Washington or the Founding Fathers fly airplanes with babies into buildings. OK, OK, they didn't have airplanes. Did the Patriots of the American Revolution travel to Britain and murder 3,000 civilians to make their point.

Hey, if you hate the United States so much, please, move back to the Dar al-Islam, where beheading people while chanting to the Satanically inspired H'Ba'al, one of the 360 gods of the Qa'aba, is looked upon as a good thing, where people can marry 6 year old girls like your beloved Prophet (Bees Piss Upon Him) and wipe their asses using their right hands using smooth stones.

BTW, you've done a very bad job of taqqiya and kitman, and have dishonored Islam. Please snort some water up your nose to clean that nasty djinn out of your sinus cavities.


Edward M. Moran (Not a Jew!)
Asst. Production Engineer
XXX Operating Company
Ed_Moran@XXX.net

273 TalkinKamel  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:10:04am

#166 Flying Tigress

You make a very good point. The Islamofacists wanted to murder tens of thousands of us, and destroy our economy. They didn't want to live in freedom; they wanted to wipe us out, just as the Axis powers did, back in WWII.

And I, myself, have always suspected more than 3,000 died that day. For one thing, I can hardly believe that everybody walking on the streets below (remember, this is rush hour, on a busy weekday morning) could have gotten away from the falling debris, or easily escaped the cloud of dust and debris that went rolling though the street when the towers came down, just like the hapless citizens of Pompei. Also, what happened to the ones who were on the subway, or waiting in the station, which, I believe, passed beneath the Towers?

This is war. They don't want freedom, they don't want peace; they want the Islamic Caliphate, and they want to destroy everything that stands in the way of that. I'm afraid we are in the middle of a new struggle between Islam and (what passes for) Christendom these days, which brings me to. . .

#212 Sean II

I've been following the progress of Kingdom of Heaven on some of the Ridley-Scott website. The giggle is that Sir Ridley is, apparently, bending over backwards to appease the Moslems! The Templars are going to be (so I last heard) the bad guys, and the Orlando Bloom character (who is nothing like the real Balian of Ibelin, by the way) fights to defend the Moslems against the wicked Christian invaders---and the whole thing sounds like a mess!

Also, they've apparently written out the character of Baldwin IV, The Leper King, since they've have to reveal the shocking fact that he did defeat the noble Saladin at the Battle of Montgisard (or Mont Gisors); I guess somebody might be offended by that as being too "crusaderly". It's just as well! Apparently, he was supposed to be played by Ed Norton, from the movie "Fight Club" (I guess Ralph Kramden was unavailable?)

274 Beagle  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:10:08am

Only Jews, Crusaders, imperialist-running-dog, lackeys of global capitalism, or innovators would dare criticize Shahid Jihad Allahu Akbar! *chop chop*

Um, I mean Shahid Alam.

275 Blueroom127  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:12:32am

more emails from the professor:

Him:
Are you organizing a campaign against me: since I have received several
letters carrying the reference to Jewish names?

Me:
no I am not organizing a campaign against you but I did post your anti-semitic reply to me on littlegreenfootballs.com. Your reply will also be sent to everyone i can think of at Northeastern.

Him:
It is an old tactic to silence critics.

Me:
As old as anti-semitism?

276 Studsup  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:12:39am

"Why is it that the only hateful mail I have received is signed by Levitt,
Hoch or Freedman?"

I have to wonder if any student in his classes with names like that could ever expect to get fair treatment from him?

The University will probably defend him on his right to freely speak inaccurately about the American Revolution (although parents might want to consider if their tuition dollars are being well spent when this sort of misinformation is being taught with approval). The University will definitely do the politcally correct thing by enforcing his right to honor the murdering Jihadis of September 11 (most university administrations would probably agree with this professor -- that's why they get hired and tenured in the first instance).

The University will have a very difficult time defending this professor for his Jew-hating email response. It's like the Oxford Professor Wilkies email, only worse. So, save whatever proof exists as to the source of this email.

277 Yossarian  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:14:01am

Eagle (#269): Here's a link to one version that doesn't seem to be Marxist: Linky. I hadn't realized there were so many editions to choose from!

278 lazytart  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:14:12am

OMG

279 Eagle  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:14:39am

#272 Ed Moran

What do you think his response will be to that?

I'd like to see his face after he reads your e-mail!

280 Beagle  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:14:41am

#273 TalkinKamel

The Crusades don't translate into great movies. First Crusade, successful, but a blood bath. Then there are so many with so many different motivations and purposes. Ultimately the Crusaders lose the Holy Land to the Muslims who took it from those who preceded them.

Muslim Land: Earth to Them

281 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:14:54am

Writes our fearless Shahid:

...in the first few weeks after September 11, put up an American flag on my office door. When a colleague commended me for my patriotism, I answered that I was only exercising my right of free speech—or what was left of it. It was a comic gesture—attempting to regain what I had lost in the aftermath of September 11. My invisibility.

One wonders, though, why he wants to be invisible. Carrying on some secret activities in your basement at night, are we, Professor?

282 Beagle  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:16:58am

#272 Ed Moran

That e-mail is a classic. LOL. This part is masterful...

BTW, you've done a very bad job of taqqiya and kitman, and have dishonored Islam. Please snort some water up your nose to clean that nasty djinn out of your sinus cavities.
283 Sean II  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:18:29am

#273 TalkinKamel

Well that sucks! I thought Ridley Scott was one of the good guys (non LLL).

284 Abu Maven  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:19:35am

273 TalkinCamel

Also, what happened to the ones who were on the subway, or waiting in the station, which, I believe, passed beneath the Towers?

Trains had stopped running to the WTC station by the time the towers collapsed.

285 Smith Space Technologies  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:20:58am

171 American Infidel 12/30/2004 09:48AM PST

I would personally forward this to the Justice Department too...

OKKK, I just know I am some FBI, CIA & White House nutjob lists since I inform them of exactly what they should do...lol...

That's nothing my phone has a wire tap sometimes you hear a click but what get's me is they are realy slipping up bad when you hear someone say

"Do you want to record this one two?"

I wonder why?

Smith Space Technologies
a cutting edge company to use industrial hemp for space travel by using hemp composites.
;-D

286 lazytart  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:21:14am

Here's mine:

Dear Sir:

You are insane and evil.

And I'm not Jewish.

I await my fatwa.

Sincerely,

[lazytart]
Memphis, Tennessee

{seriously, I'm sick to my fucking stomach}

287 Eagle  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:21:32am

#277 Yossarian

Thank you. I tend to exaggerate, but there was one book (at least) called the Anti-Federalist Papers.

288 Armed  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:21:36am

#248 Smartalice:

Yes, at [Link: www.numag.neu.edu...]

289 Bob with one O  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:22:22am

Blueroom,

Rock on!


Talkin Kamel,

Let's not forget that Richard Couer de Lion finished the siege on Saladin in the 5 short weeks after he landed in the ME. The siege had lasted for 2 years to that point.

290 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:22:56am

TalkinKamel, your news about the dhimmi attitude in "Kingdom of Heaven" is a great disappointment, but I suppose I shouldn't be surprised.

Hollywood the Morally Irrelevant would never allow a movie to be made that was even fair, much less positive, towards anything to do with the evil Crusaders and their oppression of peace-loving Moslems.

Not in this lifetime.

(Or until Hollywood gets blown up by jihadis.)

291 Intestinal Fortitude  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:23:28am

If anybody is interested in leaving a comment on Mr. Alam:

University President Freeland

292 Mike from NY  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:23:33am

Saw this thread late - this professor shouldn't surprise anyone with his muslim dribble and "hate America" garbage. Most colleges are promoting the PC "acceptance" of islam and that it is a RoP, with just a few "extremists" who do bad things. The REAL truth - that islam is a phony "religion", based on hate and destruction, isn't preached. Our young people are being brainwashed into a Politically Correct acceptance of this terrible culture called islam.

293 Joseph  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:25:49am

I haven't read the 275+ postings yet, but maybe we at LGF can make it an official project to get this guy fired and perhaps even deported?

If anyone is willing to organize it, I'm willing to donate my graphics and database expertise to the cause. Please email me if you're willing to be the co-ordinator.

It's high time we stop talking and stasrt doing something about the murderer-enablers living amongst us.

294 Victor  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:27:33am

Once again we find Islamism & Leftism linked.

Why are the two so frequently linked?

A mind prone to one is often prone to the other, as if they both target a certain gap in the mind's defenses. Like a virus that, through successful natural selection, comes to target certain gaps in the immune. Target populations exhibit little resistance to infection, and soon the virus has taken over the host and begins pumping out little copies of itself -- jibbering leftism, in the moonbat variant, and murderous Islam in the jihadi strain. Once infected, ideological vectors seem mostly impervious to treatment by reason.

Like most virus, Islamism and Leftism are entirely dependent on their healthy host, yet their effect is entirely destructive to that host -- witness the 100 million murdered by leftist utopians, and the ongoing slaughters by muslims.

Of course, Islam & Leftism are not viral diseases, but the similarities in their M.O.'s. are intriguing. It seems to illuminate some flaw, or inadequacy in the mind's mental immune system, and that ideologies targeted at this weak spot have a higher chance of successful penetration and propagation.

Why are some infected so easily, while others remain completely resistant? Islam & Leftism are destructive pathologies. Would that we could come up with a sure innoculation against them.

295 Powderfinger  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:28:15am

Blueroom 127, you might point out to him that you're not silencing him. You're spreading his message around!

296 Ed Moran abu GOMEX aob 26.5C  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:29:09am

No response yet.

297 Smartalice  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:30:32am

#288 Armed

Thanks for finding the N.U. memorial site for the 9/11 victims.

Shame on the professor. Shame on the university if they do nothing to this monster.

298 kstagger  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:32:18am

#293, agreed.

299 timdiener  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:32:34am

I just emailed the President of Northeastern U. the following:

***

President Freeland,

Sir. I bring to your attention an article - linked below - writen by your SHAHID ALAM (a 'professor' in your econ. dept.) In his article, MR. ALAM compares American minutemen patriots to the 9/11 mass-murderers, and postulates similar motives for both.


America and Islam - Seeking Parallels

[Link: www.iviews.com...]

(a short exerpt follows)
On September 11, 2001, nineteen Arab hijackers too demonstrated their willingness to die - and to kill - for their dream. They died so that their people might live, free and in dignity.


President Freeland, are these the sort of views you want writen by someone that represents your university?

Do you think that parents, who might be considering sending their kids to Northeastern U., would be pleased to learn that such views are expressed by your faculty?


Sincerely,

300 Ludicrous  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:32:45am

Perhaps the good professor should consider sending his son to a good terrrorist training camp?
Since the kid just bugs him anyway... Surely the kid is old enough to buckle on a bomb belt to make his daddy proud of his little freedom fighter.
How can this kid understand the glory of sacrificing life for Allah (barf) while living the cushy life in a Boston suburb?

The kid is more likley seething with rage against Islam when he sees that all his little friends got new PS2 games for Xmas and all he got was a new buzzing prayer mat.

301 Roger  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:33:37am

The LGF registrar is open. Wonder if the goodterrorist enabling professor would care to sign for an education...

302 Jamie  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:34:19am

Wow. My dad, an ardent opponent of Islamofacism, whose parents decided it was time for their Christian family to immigrate to the US from Iran in the 1950's was a professor there in the 1980s. I myself was looking at attending their innovative law program recently, but not if this is the kind of professor they employ...

303 Iron Fist[deleted]  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:34:24am
304 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:37:38am
305 papijoe  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:39:00am

I'm wondering now if he attends the Islamic Society of Boston

306 bombarafat  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:39:31am

I feel a Lizardoid rally coming on,
All you out there without Jewish sounding names start emailing he'll be glad to hear from you.

307 timdiener  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:42:44am

ploome hineni -

Actually, his nationality is NOT Indian - which is a majority Hindu county - (i.e. peaceful).

Alam's bio lists stays in Karachi, Pakistan and U. of Dhaka, Bangladesh (or formerly East Pakistan).

308 Geepers  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:42:44am

The good professor Shahid:

It is an old tactic to silence critics.

Repeating the professors own words far and wide?

Yeah. Um, wouldn't you think the professor would be glad to be getting publicity of his thoughts?

Wouldn't you think he'd want people giving him free publicity and helping expose his views to a wider audience?

He should stand up and state his views proudly, like that one terrorist; John Hancock, who signed the Declaration of Independence with a signature that was large enough for King George to read without his glasses.

309 Smith Space Technologies  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:43:08am

275 Blueroom127

more emails from the professor:
Him: Are you organizing a campaign against me: since I have received several letters carrying the reference to Jewish names?...
***

I sure am and I don't give a damn what the chicken's asshole thinks about it! What Federal funding has Northeastern University been getting?

Hmmm check their Funding Database

310 mac1490  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:43:59am

OT Were the minutemen hanging out in Ye Olde Strip Bar when the Regulars attempted to seize the armory?

This dillusional nit wit is nuts to draw a comparison between the 911 low-lives and genuine patriots.

311 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:47:25am
312 Abu Maven  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:48:00am

307 timdiener

Notwithstanding its Hindu majority, India has the third largest Muslim population in the world.

313 PETN Sandwich  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:48:37am

#205 Blueroom127

If the founding fathers had lost, the British would have hanged them as traitors -- as terrorists (if the terminology existed then). 'Our' freedom fighters are your 'terrorists.'

I think the good professor has made himself abundantly clear that he openly supports AQ.

314 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:49:12am
315 papijoe  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:49:19am

Here's a list of the corporate sponsors for NU's Co-op program. I think some emails to Corporate Communications/PR departments might be in order regarding Professor Alam.

316 kstagger  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:49:36am

OT, but related.

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

Whaddya know, the Iraqi's do want to vote!

317 Joseph  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:51:52am

Jamie:

Make sure you let NW know your sentiments!

btw, I just finished talking to someone who claimed the Nazis were 'right-wing' and I remember reading in a reliable source recently that one could also make the arguement they were 'left-wing', as indicated by their full name: 'Nationalist SOCIALISTS"... Any links would be greatly appreciated.

Thanx

318 Abu Maven  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:52:23am

From papijoe's post 80, it appears Shahid is Indian (unless he's saying that his students fail to distinsuish between Indians and Pakistanis):

Published on Tuesday, December 11, 2001
Race and Visibility:
In the Shadow of September 11
by M. Shahid Alam

When I crossed the border into USA in 1988, after teaching in Canada for two years, I had the curious feeling that my wife, my son and I, still brown-skinned and dark-haired, had somehow become invisible.
I enjoyed this invisibility even at my teaching job at Northeastern University. Yes, there was a little edginess when I first entered a class, a mild dismay, anticipating the strange accents of 'another Indian profes-sor'.

319 RickZ  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:53:39am

# 308 Geepers:

[The professor] should stand up and state his views proudly, like that one terrorist; John Hancock, who signed the Declaration of Independence with a signature that was large enough for King George to read without his glasses.

Excellent, excellent point of rebuttal. It's been said, many times here, that islamic ideologues and their words of hatred cannot stand the glare of the spotlight. Your rejoinder is just one more reason why I love LGF.

320 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 9:58:32am
321 missouri boy  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 10:02:05am

You know what the really sad thing is ... this proffessor is on every college campus in the U.S. How do we get rid of these nuts?

322 Geepers  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 10:05:11am

Thanks RickZ, I always wonder who they look up to?

"You know that one guy, ... the guy in the mask."

323 mac1490  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 10:06:57am

#319 RickZ

And, prior to the signing of the Declaration of Independence, I believe that the colonists sent letters to the King to attempt to peacefully resolve the disputes. King George rebuffed the attempt and declared the colonists disloyal.

There is no comparison to be drawn.

324 abu_garcia  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 10:07:09am

#228 blueroom

Save your breath. His head's too far up his ass. He can neither read, see, nor hear comprehesibly.

325 Geepers  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 10:10:16am

ploome, LOL. I was buried under a ton of ice. We had the mother of all ice storms. 4' of snow then rain then it got bitterly cold, then it snowed some more. No power and no phone lines since the 23rd.

Fortunately I had extra cat food or I wouldn't alive today to tell the tale. ;-)

326 kstagger  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 10:13:33am

would like to send the professor's treatise to drudge... but only 3 stories pop-up right now

327 doubledip  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 10:17:38am

Y'know, I think Professor Alam did us a favor by coming right out from the Muslim side and saying in effect, "9/11 sparked the official war between Islam and the West", shoving aside every PC attempt around us to downplay and deny this very thing. Alam's thinking basically gives the West justification for every invasion it makes into Islamic countries without having to generate reasons like "WMD", "freeing oppressed people", etc. Next time someone tells me the WoT isn't about Islam, I'll just point them to this link. 'Cause as long as there are people who think like Alam, it will be a war against Islam.

328 norar  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 10:18:43am

#239 Beagle

Indeed the terrorist appologisers are very well versed in Western progressive [sic] brainwashing techniques.

OTOH, Islamist appollogists, including this "professor" still never fail to tell us something we just refuse to listen to, i.e.

On September 11, 2001, nineteen Arab hijackers too demonstrated their willingness to die - and to kill - for their dream. They died so that their people might live, free and in dignity.


In the Islamaniacs' mind: all the time we refuse to murder Muslims indiscriminately we are not serious about our freedoms.

329 Cowgirl  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 10:20:06am
Why is it that the only hateful mail I have received is signed by Levitt,

Deport him! NOW!

330 William  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 10:21:02am

The e-mails are good, but typing up an actual paper letter, and mailing it to the University President is a more effective tool.

I would also suggest printing out the article written by the "professor" and including that in the envelope, marking any any passages you see fit with a highlighting pen.

      Richard Freeland, University President
      Northeastern University
      110 Churchill Hall
      360 Huntington Ave.
      Boston, MA 02115

      [Link: www.president.neu.edu...]
 

331 RickZ  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 10:21:34am

# 323 Mac 1490:

Actually, the colonists petitioned the King, having that right like any English subject. Unfortunately for George III, like most English kings, he ignored the petitions. The Mercantile System had created a tax cash cow, and George didn't want to lose that, but his intransigence lost that revenue stream in the end anyway.

332 Roger  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 10:24:17am

#325 Geepers, yummy! Getting the urge to stalk mice for fresher food yet?

333 abu_garcia  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 10:26:39am

From #267 ploome's link

When I began to depart from the scripted text, drawing attention to the ideological intent of economics, its Eurocentric biases and disregard for facts, not a few of my students began to take a harder look at me. My ethnicity and origins began to obstruct their view; I became proof against my own critique.

There are two lessons here.

1. It is a sign of hope for the future that his students "began to take a harder look at [him]".

2. There is no hope for this poltroon. In spite of the fact that he says very directly that it was "when he began to depart from the scripted text", that things changed, he ascribes these changes to his "ethnicity", racism, no doubt.

I respectfully disagree ploome, this one is outside the powers of a shrink. He will not change until he is worm's meat.

334 Freedom Fan  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 10:27:42am

Innismir, my sympathies.

So if I go to Northeastern and attend a class taught by Shahid Alam, what sort of economics would I expect to learn from this distinguished Islamic professor?

In his home country, as in all countries benighted under Sharia law, the people, especially women are oppressed and miserable. Not exactly an environment for creative thought, innovation, and free trade. What is the Islamic penalty for charging interest on a loan?

Now this Muslim nutjob's rantings are all over cyberspace; what an embarrassment for this university. If Northeastern's president had two balls and any brains whatsoever, he would fire this assholy ASAP, as well as the person with the lame judgment who hired him. What a hurdle this will now pose for recruitment at Northeastern.

335 Big Wabbit  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 10:27:54am

My blood is boiling - I am working on a FLAMING e-mail signed with my good IRISH name.

We need to get rid of these people!

336 Peacekeeper  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 10:30:27am

Ok, Prof.
You've had your fun at our expense. Now prove to me the superiority of Islam by going over to the ME and saying something equally inflammatory about your mujahadeen boys- and then not be murdered by them.

But you're no fool, and besides terror and murder are acceptable tools for you, aren't they? Go to Hell.

337 Geepers  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 10:33:29am

Roger (#332), Me or the cats? :-)

338 TMF  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 10:33:34am

HEY PROFESSOR ASSHOLE

Why is it that every time I turn on the news and hear about savage acts of violence against innocent humans, the perpetrators are named Muhammed, Ahmed or Shahid (and never Goldstein, Schwartz or Silverstein?)

339 missouri boy  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 10:33:37am

I hope everyone of ya'll with high school seniors are preparing your kids for nut jobs like this proff. He's on every campass in U.S.

340 The Big Guy  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 10:39:37am

#194 Poitiers-Lepanto

ALOHA SNACKBAR

OT
How come this isn't in Wikipedia yet?

341 Freedom Fan  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 10:50:24am

OK, Missouri Boy.

Then let's expose every one of them.

Put their face and their beliefs in front of every university administrator, potential student, and alumni contributor.

Let's shine the light of knowledge on these disgusting Muslims who twist the minds of our young people and intend to enslave the west with islam. Contribute to Horowitz!

Let's send emails, blogs, newspapers, faxes, talk radio, books, magazines. Sunshine is the best disinfectant.

342 A Ziggen  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 10:57:12am

The original article that Charles linked to on Iviews.com (I=Islam) has a comment section where you can rate the acticle and give your comments.

So far it is empty...hmmm

343 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 11:07:56am

Just checking: is the so called professor still in America in this moment ?
Yes ?
Bad thing.

I hoped that the lizard breath could throw him out.

344 Paul  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 11:08:24am

Well, I sent the good professor an e-mail for all the good it will do. But that article was so absurd and contemptible that I had to tell him exactly how I felt. I was restrained but I hope I made a point. He's such a nut job that he's probably already convinced that I'm part of some Zionist cabal.

And this is an educated man, a college professor, a man of learning and reason ranting like some back alley mullah.

345 On the Mark  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 11:09:11am

This is the letter I just sent to Professor Alam. I will also be sending a letter to the President of the University and I think we should encourage as many as possible to do so.

Professor Alam,

You are an embarrassment to this great country in which you live. You, here in the U.S., living fat upon the very society which you denigrate, and attacking it from within via your ignorant, hate filled writing are an example of the lack of leadership that is taking the Muslim world towards mass suicide.

There is no justification for the murder of thousands of innocents, and your attempt to do so is nothing short of despicable. Contrary to your attempts to denigrate our forefathers, they did NOT slaughter thousands of innocent men, women and children in the pursuit of their rights as a sovereign nation.

However crude and unacceptable your position is, everyday I am thankful for your ability to express such drivel. Your ability to do so is unique because you live in the U.S. (a western secular country). If you lived in any country with a Muslim (non-secular) government, and took a position justifying violence against the citizens / government of that country, you would most likely be imprisoned, tortured and probably put to death. Welcome to America, where such a situation will not be so, and you will instead be free to speak your mind.

I will continue to support your right to speak your mind, as protected in the U.S. Constitution. However, I and many others will not stand idly by, listening to you issue these outrageous and offensive missives from a U.S. institution of higher learning. And we will exercise OUR right to free speech in the call for you to step down from your professorship at the University.

Sincerely,

346 Cam  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 11:10:32am
The only time I felt comfortable stepping outside the campus in London, Western Ontario, was in the winter months, when bundled in jacket, hood, scarf, and gloves, I became nearly indistinguishable from everyone else. In the summer, when I had to shed these sartorial covers, I ventured out only at night, under a mantle of darkness.

Wow. Paranoid much?

347 Geepers  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 11:12:34am

It seems professor Shahid is used to denying what he's said and done. Proud defender of his faith that he is.

The discussion about anti-Semitism began when professors in Northeastern's economics department received e-mails from Professor M. Shahid Alam, a tenured professor in the department, containing anti-Semitic material.

Professor Alam said he is not anti-Semitic and never sent the e-mails, but knows how they were sent.

About two weeks ago, Alam said he discovered that a website started by a pro-Israel research group had posted a dossier (file) on him. The site (www.campus-watch.org) posted dossiers on a number of professors at universities throughout the country, asking students to spy on them and report back to the website, Alam said. The site alleges that the professors in question are not sufficiently pro-Israeli, therefore they are anti-America as well, Alam said.

Alam said he has been targeted by Campus Watch because of a commentary he wrote in July that was published in a few Middle Eastern newspapers. He said his words were later taken out of context and published in the Jerusalem Post to make him appear anti-Semitic and supportive of terrorists.

Prof. blacklisted

The guy's laughing at us.

348 Fran Porretto  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 11:12:56am

Please see also this.

349 ugh!  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 11:13:55am

It is amazing how closely recent world, and especially Islamic, opinions about America have imitated decades of distortions about Israel. During those decades, most Americans (unless they closely followed both Midle East events and the reporting thereof) did not experience the frustration and outrage that I would feel in reading mainstraim (to say nothing of Islamic) media distorted reporting of Israel's heroic, generous, uniquely moral and ultimately thankless conduct towards its sworn enemies.

I wonder how many Americans are aware that the same garbage now said about America has no less bass in fact or fairness than what they have been reading about Israel for decades.

Certainly, our college campuses have yet to figure this out. I wonder if our living rooms and saloons are faring any better.

Ugh!

350 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 11:14:58am
351 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 11:17:33am
352 superdawg  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 11:20:28am

A few hours ago I sent a response to Iviews.com responding to the column. I checked the "disagree" box and listed a few paragraphs why. They then gave me an option to "agree" with parts of the column and list those things I found acceptable. Weird, but I'm sure they would use it as an opportunity to justify whatever stance they take.

Of course, I have not heard a reply.

Anybody else try this? Sorry if I missed your post if you did.

353 mac1490  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 11:22:57am

331 RickZ

Thanks. That clears it up.

354 Trumanite  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 11:24:48am
134 Poitiers-Lepanto 12/30/2004 09:29AM PST #123 Hornet What does it take? It takes the political will to fight this world war calling it a world war and declaring that islam is invading the West to conquer it. We are very far from having any leader with that strength and all the mistakes of today will be paid with astronomical interests by our Children.

What you say is entirely correct. Bush's inability to name the enemy is his worst failure.

355 Freedom Fan  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 11:25:14am

Wow! Nice job "On The Mark"! Eloquently put. Insightful; your points are immediately obvious to any fair-minded person.

BYW, A Ziggen, I tried to post on IViews.com but found that nothing is allowed to be posted until someone censors the message. Surprise (not), since it is an islamic apologetic web site, free exchange of ideas is not permitted.

I praised the article and sent a link to this page. However, any thoughts which are not respectful of islam or could offend anyone (in charge of the site) are apparently deleted.

356 Cam  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 11:25:36am

#351 ploome hineni:

LOL!

Incidentally, UWO in London is also famous for refusing to fire a tenured professor who believes in eugenics and the purity and dominence of the white "race".

Y'think they ever got seated next to one another at faculty shindigs?

;-)

357 loonophobe  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 11:26:09am

I think there are two really important things to get out of this thread.

One, of course, is the absolute BS our childrean are being exposed to in the name of education. When our future is controlled by people who learned, in their youth, that "tolerance" only applies to those who agree with them, that "freedom" means slavery but under a politically correct system instead of capitalism, etc., we have arrived at a place not even George Orwell could have envisioned.

The other is the absolute interchangeability, if there is such a word, between the Islamofascist nuts and the Liberal nuts. Who is responsible for putting these babbling seditionists into tenured positions in our halls of education? Certainly not the conservatives. Who agrees with what they have to say? Liberals, again.

It is easier to fight an enemy once he has identified himself. For this reason alone, the professor's rantints are valuable. As long as Islam can be portrayed as gentle, loving, tolerant, and nonviolent, there will be those who claim it is a benign religion misrepresented by a fanatical few. And as long as liberalism can be portrayed as a kind, gentle, concern for the downtrodden, the poor, and women, as well as a bastion of tolerance for all, it will continue to attract the idealistic. Stripping away the disguises both wear will only point out their similarities, and make it harder for both to defend the indefensible positoins they share---including contempt for women, disregard for the tortured and maimed and slaughtered, hatred for America, anti-Semitism, and general total intolerance.

If the stakes were not so high, it would be amusing to sit back and watch the liberals support the jihadists in their annihilation of all conservative infidels, just to see the looks on their faces when they realize they, too, are targeted.

358 Geepers  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 11:30:02am

Like father like son:

Professor Alam's son, a sophomore political science major, spoke about another economy that he feels has been devastated by what he deems an already existing war.

"[U.S. imposed sanctions] devastated the Iraqi people and strengthened Saddam," Junaid Alam said.

Responding to the group's discussion about the right of the Iraqi people to have self-determination, Junaid Alam said that the "sanctions make it so that Iraqi people have to depend on Saddam's government to survive; ending the sanctions is the key.

He's a freakin Saddam supporter.

And his dad is even less able to make acurate predictions about economics than he can about politics and history. If that's possible:

Alam said that in light of the current economic situation in the U.S. and what the costs of a war would do to deteriorate that, "it is unlikely that the tens of billions of dollars that would be needed to rebuild Iraq would be available."

Alam also questioned the ability to build a successful democracy in the Middle East, noting that this still has not happened since the war in Afghanistan, where the war ended in January 2002.

Not to mention being a flaming racist himself.

You know, those stupid Middl Easterner people, they's ain't smarts enough to have no democracy.

359 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 11:30:29am

#347 Geepers:

He said his words were later taken out of context and published in the Jerusalem Post to make him appear anti-Semitic and supportive of terrorists.

Standard tactic: whenever we understand them perfectly clearly, and call them to account for what they've said, they maintain we've taken something "out of context."

Prof.: "I hate Jews."

Me: "You anti-Semite!"

Prof.: "You're taking my words out of context."

Right.

360 On the Mark  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 11:30:56am

I highly suggest that anyone interested express their outrage to the President of NEU, where Professor Alam teachers. The page where you can send President Freeland emails is:

[Link: 155.33.227.141...]

361 Freedom Fan  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 11:34:39am

Thanks Geepers for:

Alam said he has been targeted by Campus Watch because of a commentary he wrote in July that was published in a few Middle Eastern newspapers. He said his words were later taken out of context and published in the Jerusalem Post to make him appear anti-Semitic and supportive of terrorists.

Can't imagine how anyone would think he was "supportive of terrorists". Besides "terrorist" is such a subjective word (ask CNN).

BTW. This thread is hot. Before I can post again, there are already 3-5 new messages. Wonder what the record is for number of posts?

362 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 11:35:42am

Geepers, also note that the article in "Northeastern News" pretty much takes Prof. Alam's statements at face value.

Awww. Poor widdle bwackwisted pwofessow.

363 Innismir  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 11:38:34am

#334 Freedom Fan:

NU is/was a great school, it's sad this one bozo will tarnish our reputation like it will. I did have a professor who could be called the anti-alam. He was fantastic, a well thought out, articulate, anti-idiotarian. Sadly, he was CE, he probably would have made some brains explode if he was in PoliSci.

It's such a shame this asshole can screw over my alma mater

364 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 11:43:38am

#354 Trumanite

I don't particularly attribute the fault to Bush . I'd rather say that the whole leadership of the Country looks unable of acting with clear vision and energy.
A leader doesn't grow up in the void.
Reagan could be there, the right man at the right time, because the anticommunist culture was diffused and strong.

For some reason, more than twenty years after the attacks against the Marines in Beirut, we are still asking ourselves (ON THIS BLOG TOO !) if we must use all our force or not, if if if if...Asking asking asking

It looks like we think that we can be Godly JUST and RIGHTEOUS...

The "question mark" culture will not produce a leadership able to save us.

365 Geepers  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 11:44:20am

Wow. This guy is chock full of nutty goodness.

Check out this screed by the good professor:

McCarthyism is alive

The Professor is quite unabashed in taking up the cause of Campus-Watch.Org (CW), which seeks to victimize academics who oppose the Israeli Occupation. In defense of this McCarthyist website, he can do no better than quote from its advertised aims. I would think a professor of marketing would be less credulous. Has any McCarthyite advertised his true intentions?

When it was launched, CW carried a dossier on professors, which invited students to spy and report on the "un-American" activities of their professors. A dossier on professors? It reminded some of the dossiers the Gestapo maintained on its victims.

Professor Rabino urges me to "consider supporting free expression" in the Arab dictatorships. Right now I worry more about free speech at home.

What the Palestinians rejected was life in permanent Bantustans; with the menace of the armed settler camps all around them; without East Jerusalem; without sovereign control over their borders, waters, and airspace; without the right to return to their homes. What the Palestinians rejected was servitude under Israeli apartheid.

366 Joseph  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 11:53:34am

PapiJoe posted 100 corps. who deal with NEU (Thanks PapiJoe!). This is a great start. I hope to print out some material on the bastard, make copies, and have folks help mail them to each company (after simply getting the company's address).

Any volunteers?

It's Time To Make A Stand!

Not everyone can join the Marines, Special Ops, travel to Washington and protest, or donate large amounts of $$$ to worthy causes. But this is something which we should be able to pull off.

Please email me @ thunder2020@netzero.net if you'd like to participate.

367 1ConservativeLawyer  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 11:54:59am

Well, it's taken me a few hours but I finally calmed down enough to send off an email to the pres of the University. Standing by for a response...

368 WriterMom  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 11:59:00am

My name is sooo Joooish...maybe I should also send a love letter?

369 loonophobe  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 12:00:37pm

BTW, I have friends from other countries, many from South Amerca, who are perfectly comfortable here in the United States. One is so dark he was called "El Negro" (the Black) back home. BTW, none---NONE--NOT ONE--of these people have been targeted just becaue of their skin color, or their accents. The very idea of any of these people skulking around in the dark, or under cover of heavy disguising hats and glasses, to avoid being recognized as darker of complexion is simply ridiculous.

I suggest that the professor, if he was targeted at all, was not targeted as "that Indian guy" but "that ***hole who is teaching our kids all that crap". As long as he insists on spouting his paranoid and poisonous fantasies, he can expect to be reviled, riduculed, and despised---skin color not being a factor at all.

How convenient to run around being as obnoxious and offensive as possible and then finding a feeble hook on which to hang the resulting dislike---it's not because he is a jerk, or a lira, or promoting hatred of his adopted country through lies and inventions, but he's just an innocent who is an example of the faults of this country, hated only because of his color.

I have a feeling that this guy has one of those personalities that would be disliked anywhere, by anyone. When he says his kids "bug" him I envision his poor children begging him to stop being such a blatant embarassment to the whole family.

But look---it's another link between the islamofascists and the liberals---victimization. What would they do without it?

Oh, and his incessant whining about "losing" his "invisibility" is hysterical. It's kind of like the kids with purple hair and mulitple piercings and butt cracks hanging out who then complain because people are looking at them. Like it didn't take a lot of time, pain, and money to become such a freak, and like the purpose was to remain "invisible". This particular freak courted attention by choosing a parituclarly distasteful form of freakishness, and now he's complaining because people noticed, and experienced distaste.

Hey, Professor---want to be "invisible"? Shut up about everything but real economics.

370 Joseph  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 12:01:21pm

At least the President of NEU uses the word 'terrorist':

Now, I recognize that this is a sensitive issue, and that serious and legitimate questions have been raised about the continued growth in immigration as unemployment levels increase and national security and homeland defense concerns have arisen after the terrorists attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.
371 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 12:01:48pm

Quoting the pig:

What the Palestinians rejected was

a State, 56 years ago. In 1948. And instead of accepting their own State they tried to destroy Israel and kill all the Jews.
They tried again and again, 1956, 1967 etc.

372 Freedom Fan  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 12:03:17pm

"On the Mark", thanks for the NEU link Here's my contribution. Let's have some more!

Dear Mr. Freeland,

I just learned that one of your professors, Shahid Alam, believes that Mohammed Atta and the other September 11 mass murderers were as virtuous as the American colonists fighting in the Revolutionary War. Presumably, he celebrates September 11, like patriotic Americans celebrate July 4th.

It is hard to imagine a university hiring a person with such little regard for the truth or such a cavalier attitude toward the suffering of thousands of innocent Americans. If this "intellectual" professor has such a distorted view of history and distain for humanity, what exactly could your students hope to gain by attending his economics classes?

To allow your university to avoid any further embarrassment from this cult fanatic, I respectfully suggest you terminate his ass forthwith.

Here are a "few" more comments regarding this distinguished professor's opinion:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

373 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 12:05:39pm

JUST FOUND THIS AT ANN COULTER'S PAGE:

"To The People Of Islam:
Just think: If we'd invaded your countries, killed your leaders and converted you to Christianity YOU'D ALL BE OPENING CHRISTMAS PRESENTS RIGHT ABOUT NOW!
Merry Christmas"


Hilarious.
Perfect for this thread.

www.anncoulter.org

374 levi from queens  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 12:05:40pm

Wow -- it is difficult to try to pull in all of the wisdom of LGF into a short letter. But here goes.

Dear President Freeland,

I am a Northeastern alumnus of the class of 79 from the school of Professional Accounting. I was extremely disturbed by Professor M. Shahid Alam's recent piece in Iviews. [Link: www.iviews.com...]
Professor Alam applauded the men who murdeered thousands of my neighbors on 9/11/2001. He further showed an elementary lack of economic knowledge by presenting as fact the long-discredited Beardian view of the sources of the American Revolution. This calls into question not just his morality, but also his base-line competence.

When questioned by people, he responded with an anti-semitic letter. Link: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Please note that I am not Jewish by either ancestry or conviction. However, as for every good American, I am outraged.

As Mr. Alam applauds the murder of my neighbors, I have inferred that he also wishes my death. Accordingly, I will make no further contributions to the Northestern endowment while he is employed there.

Best Regards,


Levi from Queens

cc: Mr. Alam

375 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 12:14:37pm
376 daughter of patriots  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 12:15:00pm

Shahid Alam suggests those magnificent 19 hijackers are not unlike our original American patriots. Revisionisim now reaches our college kids! First they sought Harcourt Brace (left-wing bastion?) to reach our elementary school kids suggesting Columbus' navigator was Muslim (yeah, right).

I've got news for you. Shahid. I've read American history, and you Shahid, are no Geo. Washington! Neither was Mr. stone-cold Atta.

377 Powderfinger  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 12:29:42pm

#373 Poitiers-Lepanto

God, I love that woman. I want her to write my Christmas cards.

378 TMF  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 12:59:21pm

#368

Debbie Mandelbaum?

Sadie Goldblatt?

Esther Rosenberg?

Abby Bernstein?

(I should stop- those are probably real names!)

379 minuteman  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 1:01:23pm

As a direct descendant of minutemen who answered the alarm at Lexington and Concord I can not even begin to express my disgust for this islamfascist's views. Too bad dueling is illegal. Northeastern alumni should immediately begin to protest and fund a chair to counter this rot.

380 ninetails  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 1:01:46pm

#371 Poitiers-Lepanto 12/30/2004 02:01PM PST

What the Palestinians rejected was
a State, 56 years ago. In 1948. And instead of accepting their own State they tried to destroy Israel and kill all the Jews. They tried again and again, 1956, 1967 etc.


One point: There were no 'Palestinians' as the MSM has termed today...they were arabs then as they are now...just like they were back before the JOOOS liberated gaza, judea and samaria in 1967...

381 Mentat  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 1:11:53pm

#372 Freedom Fan

Thanks for the link to NEU. I just sent a scathing letter to President Freeland. How much longer are we going to put up with this fifth column in our midst? How much longer are we going to put up with these people who profess to hate our civilization and our way of life but choose to live here and try and destroy our civilization and way of life? In a sane world, Prof. Alam would be on the first plane to Saudi Arabia available.

I am practically sick with rage and disgust. I never thought that my opinion of the belief-system of Islam could be lowered but it has reached a new nadir.

382 Freedom Fan  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 1:18:18pm

Has Charles gone P.C.?

Try typing: m*u*z*z*i*e

It becomes "Muslim"!

383 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 1:18:43pm

#380 Ninetails

Yes.
And in the memories of Churchill I read (and I posted that here a long time ago) that Arabs from many different Arab countries had come, from the Thirties on, to the British protectorate where the Zionists were rebuilding their Homeland, because they knew they could find decent jobs, decent housing etc. (all built and developed by the Jews).

In 1948 this mass of mixed population (locals and immigrants) tried to destroy Israel and to exterminate the Jews because of the great economy that the Jews had already developed (at least in comparison to the NOTHING of the sorrounding Arab countries).

384 Cam  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 1:20:02pm

#382 Freedom Fan:

Charles takes a lot of flak from those accusing LGF of being a racist site. I'm personally no fonder of "m*u*z*z*i*e" than I would be of "kike", or a similar expression.

385 Freedom Fan  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 1:21:32pm

#381 Mentat

Cool. May we read the letter?

386 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 1:25:26pm

#382 Freedom Fan

You don't need to call them names, just call them
"muslim invaders"
and nobody can tell you you are racist.
Unless "strategy" becomes a hate crime too.

387 blue_like_jazz  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 1:25:39pm

deport deport deport! what a puke. the question is: HOW MANY of these freaks are living here enjoying our freedoms, getting paid a good salary, and disseminating this kind of bull$hit to young adults with NO ACCOUNTABILITY?

re:#146-- you should totally print and send that in.

388 Cam  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 1:26:57pm

#386 Poitiers-Lepanto:

Unless "strategy" becomes a hate crime too.

Only in Canada so far, as far as I know...

;-)

389 Geepers  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 1:33:58pm

Freedom Fan,

Wonder what the record is for number of posts?

I think it's 1183 for the"Passion" thread. For multiple threads on the same topic one of the Presidential debate nights had about 6 with 2500+.

390 minuteman  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 1:34:54pm

The letter I sent.

Mr. President:

Please review the attached link, written by Prof. Alam - [Link: www.iviews.com...]

As an American and a direct descendant of minutemen who answered the alarm at Lexington and Concord, I am dismayed that your university would hire a professor of such limited intellectual capacity and such extreme hatred of our nation and the liberal ideals of academia. It is becumbent that you publish a criticism of Prof. Alam's opinions, that you review how he was hired, and that you do all you can to insure that your university pomotes diverse speech, i.e. hire professors whose scholarship critiques Prof. Alam's.

Clearly, Professor Alam supports the carnage of September 11th and supports the extension of dar al islam to the US and the supercession of our Constitution by islamic sharia. I suspect that you may scoff at the treasonous aspects of Prof. Alam's speech or believe that free speech trumps the invidious agenda of your professor. If so, then I only hope that when the day comes and Prof Alam and his ilk triumph, that I may be present to watch you decide between conversion to islam, dhimmitude or death. I wil then ask you about the wisdom of tolerating such intolerance before I laugh and say I told you so.

391 Freedom Fan  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 1:38:19pm

#384 Cam

Didn't realize there was sensitivity to such a seemingly innocuous term.

I deeply despise racism. However, in order to be racist, doesn't race have to be involved?

Being a Muslim is voluntary. Islam a warped belief system which cripples the mind of the believer and promotes violence toward just about everybody. Truth is its first victim; tolerance for Muslims who are not Muslim enough are its next victims. Infidels are next; the crazies in Iran now have or will have nukes.

Are we forbidden to make light of certain belief systems? Even dangerous ones like Islam? Wonder what other words are forboden here?

392 Mentat  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 1:40:39pm

#385 Freedom Fan

I have to be very careful with clues to my identity. I am a bona fide "enemy of god". Many Muslims would like to see me dead. Have you considered the possibility that President Freeland will be sympathetic to Prof. Shahid and share all the letters that he receives with him, including the names and addresses of people? Have you considered the possibility that President Freeland may actually AGREE with Prof. Shahid and share his views? Do you know how many nuts there are in this country who have Phds?

393 Cam  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 1:47:08pm

#391 Freedom Fan:

I deeply despise racism. However, in order to be racist, doesn't race have to be involved?

I didn't, by any means, intend to imply that yo are racist, and if that is how I came accross, I apologize. Rather, I guess what I meant is that by taking the high road, we immediately remove an arrow from the quiver of those that criticize the fine work that Charles does here.

Similarly, as in the example I used - Jewish people - are not a race either, but that doesn't mean it's any less offensive to call one a kike or a hebe, or whatever.

However, this ain't my place, and far be it from me to tell others what to say. Again, if you thought I wsa inferring that you were in any way racist, I apologize.

394 missouri boy  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 1:48:46pm

#391 Freedom Fan

That word was changed in a post I made last week or so. I asked simply why it is ok to spell jew as JOOOs and not muslim as ..(same word you used)?

Of course, we all know it's ok to smear jews! (joke)

395 Freedom Fan  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 2:02:47pm

#392 Mentat

I admire your courage. It's OK to be paranoid if they're really out to get you. Best to always be anonymous.

That's why I admire the folks who put it all on the line like our troops.

Besides Ann Coulter(PBUH), my heros are Theo Van Gogh (deceased) and Hirsi Ali, Dutch author of "Submission". If someone hurts her, even Hollywood and people in the west may start to pay attention to our collective plight.

Incredible as it may seem, most of us still don't know what 9/11 (and other atrocities over the last 20 years) were all about. The lefties (will they censor that too) think it was all our fault. The righties think it was the work of fanatics who hijacked not only our airplanes, but also their own "peaceful" religion. Only the bloggers have it really figured out. It's our job to inform everyone before it becomes too late. The long term solution has to be education and de-programming; in the short term it's the U.S. military and security forces.

As of 2004 we are now the adult supervision for the LLL MSM.

396 Aisha  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 2:04:26pm

Oh Professor Shahid! My burkha trembles at the mention of your name!

My brother, you are correct about the Jews and Americans. The holy Qur’aan declares them to harbour the most enmity against us Muslims. This is one of the reasons the Muslims don’t get along with them. The main reason for this enmity stems from jealousy. Due to their constant transgression and pride, Allah Ta’ala has predestined disgrace for them. They will be duly punished for all their evil misdeeds.

It would be contrary to Shari'ah for me to leave the house to visit you ate NEU, but should you be interested in Nikkah, I can show you how well I comply with the requisities of the Shari'ah when it comes to hygene "down there", if you know what I mean! I yearn for you beneath my burkha!

397 Freedom Fan  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 2:17:12pm

#396 Aisha

I've read your satirical posts before. You are an outrageous chick (for an apostate). Love ya.

398 FloridaHeat  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 2:21:54pm

My family tree is just chock full of pious Pilgrims, rabble rousing Revolutionaries, Founding Fathers, Statesmen, loved (and hated) military heroes, and other industrious people who have statues made of 'em, and cities, counties, public buildings, schools, airports and highways named after 'em.

If the professor is correct, then I must be RICH! Let me check my wallet.

Pffft. Just lint.

Maybe its because my ancestors pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor and PAID THE PRICE for freedom.

Maybe its because this ignoramus with a PhD is just plain WRONG?

Maybe I'll go ask my husband where his family keeps all their money...

Mary Hamilton

399 Geepers  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 2:23:47pm

Freedom Fan, Um, "Aisha" is a guy.

400 Freedom Fan  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 2:25:31pm

#390 Minuteman

Great letter!

401 Freedom Fan  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 2:29:18pm

Geepers

Oh sorry. Guess the name threw me, shoulda peeked under the burka.

Probably not an apostate either...

402 Cam  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 2:33:49pm

#401 Freedom Fan:

David/Aisha is a lawyer from Australia, IIRC.

403 sms111  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 2:48:17pm

It's time to show the good professor our views on his views:

Mailing a container of dog feces to him and his dean and the university president might get the point across that to equate shotting at soldiers in a war with crashing planes filled with civilians into buildings filled with civilians is...

JUST PLAIN

CRAP

p.s. even better: mail PORCINE FECES, for those who can get it...

404 DocDale  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 3:01:29pm

Aside from wasting time responding to this drongo's arguments (likely to result in more frustration and irritation for LGFers), the real issue is the Professor's casual anti-semitism. That throw-away response was delivered in such a way as to indicate that he gets away with this kind of thing routinely.

In Australia, archived copies of his emails could be forwarded to the Executive Council of Australian Jewry. I don't know the US version but am sure there must be one. The Australian body has successfully smoked out a few prejudiced little sh*ts (and not just against Jews - ECAJ have been good at sticking up for women and Aborigines, too).

I say this because this individual clearly has contempt for at least some of his potential and actual students. Transpose the name of any other ethnic group (O'Reilly, Keane and Connor, for example, or Mbaya, Rutenge and Kwitiko) and his attitude is clear.

Could members of the despised ethnic group be assured that their papers will be marked fairly?

Very disturbing.

Kind regards.

405 sms111  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 3:05:47pm

#8 ProudLiberals dot com [TROLL]

1) Michael Moore is a big fat liar. Everything he says is a lie. What's the lie in his movie "Fahrenheit 9/11" that disproves his theory the Bush lied to the country about the war?

You seek the most bizarre variation of the thought disorder "Proof by Lack of Evidence" that I've seent o date:
Example: I've never seen you drunk, so you must be one of those Amish people

2) John Kerry is a stinking flip-flopper who has two arguments for every issue. What's his biggest flip-flop that betrays American's trust in him?

His talking to the North Vietnamese in the early 1970's. Oops...sorry...he's never flip-flopped on his adoration of communist psychopaths.

3) Clinton was a bad president, full of screw-ups. What large mistake did he make that endangered national security?

Having Monica suck his dick while letting Osama go free.

4) Bush is a wonderful president, who has never done anything seriously wrong. What's Bush's greatest accomplishment while in office?

Having the balls to liberate 25,000,000 people from a brutal dictator like Saddam Hussein. If Neville Chemberlain had had those same balls, my ancestors would not have had a date in a Concentration Camp shower whose faucets dispensed Zyklon B.

5) People who watch FoxNews get the real scoop, while the masses that watch the "Main Stream Media" get duped. What is one network news channel that has higher rated shows than FoxNews?

Who the f*ck cares? Dogshit gets high ratings from fly larvae...does that mean you'd eat it?

6) Conservatives need to take back this country in order to fix it and keep it safe. Liberals keep fighting against us, but if we keep battling, someday we'll get power and return us to glory. Of the three branches of the government, legislative, judicial, and executive, how many do we have left to take over?

None, since leftists commit subversion by extra-governmental means (e.g., by indoctrinating our children).

7) Those godless liberals are trying to take the "Christ" out of Christmas by keeping us from practicing our faith. What is one specific thing liberals have done to stomp on our religious worship?

Trying to take the "Christ" out of Christmas.

8) While they fight to keep the Ten Commandments out of the courtroom, we fight to keep it in. After all, many of our founding fathers in this country were Christians. What is the most important Commandment that needs to be better represented in our legal system today?

The Ten Commandments are used in/near courtrooms as a decoration, not as a legal text, you moron.

9) The "Patriot Act" is needed to help law enforcement snoop into the records of those that would do us harm. Regular citizens should have nothing to worry about, because they are not criminals. How many terrorists has this act caught since 9/11?

How many cases of AIDS have been cured by massively expensive drugs? None. Therefore let's just stop trying by your illogic.

10) Outsourcing jobs is good, because it makes a profit. Importing drugs is bad, because it hurts profits. Explain to the average person how having someone in a foreign country doing their job, with access to cheaper healthcare, is good for them?

Your knowledge of the drug R&D process is about as good as your knowledge of outsourcing statistics.

Sir, I have a website for you that you should study intensely:

[Link: www.megat.co.uk...]

This site will explain your brain malfunctions to you in a way you may be just able to parse.

406 Bubble Girl  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 3:06:02pm

OT

Will Charles put a new thread soon, these are, well, kinda boring...

407 Bubble Girl  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 3:14:33pm

Sorry, I blundered into the wrong thread, as you were...

408 Mardukhai  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 3:55:16pm

Interesting: Prof. Alam's article appears in iviews.com.

On the right side of the iviews home page is an ad for "The International Jew" by Henry Ford, after the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion," the most famous anti-Semitic book of modern times. Late in life, Ford disowned the book.

By clicking the link, the site "Islamicity.com" appears, with a long description of the miserable mess:



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In an interview published in the New York World February 17, 1921, Mr. Henry Ford put the case for the "Protocols of Zion" tersely and convincingly. He said: "The only statement I care to make about the Protocols is that they fit in with what is going on. They are sixteen years old and they have fitted the world situation up to this time. They fit it NOW."

1920 marked the beginning of the publication of this research series, in the Dearborn Independent, the Ford Motor Company's weekly magazine. These articles were eventually collected in book form under the title, The International Jew. The book became a wide success. It is estimated that more than 10 million copies of the book were sold in the United States alone!

Yet today this book is almost impossible to find. You will not be able to buy it in your local bookstore, nor check it out at your local library. The truth is that in the so called "democratic, pluralist" America this book has been systematically suppressed.

The International Jew is a magnifying glass applied to the hidden sources of immorality, vide, degeneracy, and subversion. It is a threat - a threat to the international financiers who would prefer to keep information selective and geared towards a world oligarchy of self-interest. The lack of awareness of this insidious encroachment into lives of ordinary people increases by the day. By reopening this debate this book exposes the inherent danger of unchecked Zionism.


You can find it here.

Now wait till he says, "I'm not a racist, I just hang out on the web with them."

How about someone helping me bring this to Charles' attention?

409 HUSKER  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 4:30:13pm

If the muslims really want to hear THE SHOT HEARD ROUND THE WORLD we could just drop about 100,000 a-bombs on their asses from the Mediteranean to the Himalayas!

There is a zillion reasons to not compare those cowardly, satan-deceived swine, false-prophet followers of 9/11 hijacking fame, but one of them should surely be:

When England fought us, we didn't cry to the world that we were being treated unfairly and that the JEWS British were treating us badly...we fought back and kicked their asses!

If you want a fight, then let's do it and stop complaining about Abu grab, racial profiling, and luke warm coffe and tea while you wait to be finger-printed you F***ING PUSSIES!

410 HUSKER  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 4:39:09pm

Cool, liberal, uber-thinker (college guy) nuanced poll:


2) John Kerry is a stinking flip-flopper who has two arguments for every issue. What's his biggest flip-flop that betrays American's trust in him?

Tells US auto workers he owns a big, hinking SUV! Whoo Hoo!

Days later tells Environmentalists that he would never own "one of those gas-guzzlers".

Then admits it's, "his family's...not his".


ANY ONE WHO DOES NOT SEE THAT GETTING RID OF SADDAN IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO, AND THAT DOESN'T SEE THAT WE ARE SAFER WITHOUT HIM IN POWER DOES NOT HAVE THE CREDIBLILTIY TO BE PRESIDENT.

Later: Wrong War, Wrong Time, quagmire, illegal war, Saddam is not bad, no WOMD

411 Freedom Fan  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 4:41:22pm

Interesting post Mardukhai.

I knew that Dearborn, MI was where some type of auto is manufactured. I also knew it has one of the highest concentrations of Middle-Eastern types in the U.S. Your post exposes... Nah, just a coincidence.

412 HUSKER  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 4:41:57pm
3) Clinton was a bad president, full of screw-ups. What large mistake did he make that endangered national security?


Had Osama Bin Laden in Africa on a platter, but chose not to get him becasue the "polls" were not good for it.


Yes, I know we "outsourced" the job, but it was only because the greatest president in the history of the UNIVERSE set the example to let OBL get away. Bush was just folowing his example

413 HUSKER  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 4:45:57pm
What's Bush's greatest accomplishment while in office?

Allowing ANY federal funding to go to stem-cell research, which your ass-buddy Bubba DID NOT DO!


Not listening to a bribed and co-erced UN (dirty through and through) and going into Afghanistan and Iraq and beating the F*** UP on those that would attempt to annihilate our way of life. (And no, we didn't start that Palestinian/Israeli conflict...so bad argument, brah!)

414 HUSKER  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 4:48:48pm
5) People who watch FoxNews get the real scoop, while the masses that watch the "Main Stream Media" get duped. What is one network news channel that has higher rated shows than FoxNews?


Let me guess...See B.S.? Did you get that stat from the same person who faked those documents that a "kindergartener" could spot?

415 HUSKER  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 4:51:26pm
6) Conservatives need to take back this country in order to fix it and keep it safe. Liberals keep fighting against us, but if we keep battling, someday we'll get power and return us to glory. Of the three branches of the government, legislative, judicial, and executive, how many do we have left to take over?


Since it's only O.K. for the Democrats to appoint pro-abortionists, I can't really say JUDICIAL with an anti-abortionist. Only liberals can appoint liberals, conervatives CAN NOT appoint conservatives...so none I guess.

416 HUSKER  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 4:53:44pm
7) Those godless liberals are trying to take the "Christ" out of Christmas by keeping us from practicing our faith. What is one specific thing liberals have done to stomp on our religious worship?

Can't mention GOD in school, but can promote kids dressing up as muslims and repeating muslim prayers to alla or whichever false god you choose to teach on that day, just not the ACTUAL GOD.

417 Baldy  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 4:56:48pm

When someone's name is "Jihad," or "Shahid" (martyr), I have an issue. (Sometimes I type in "Jihad" in Google news, and find many basketball players. I hope their parents are just stupid.)

418 HUSKER  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 5:02:15pm
8) While they fight to keep the Ten Commandments out of the courtroom, we fight to keep it in. After all, many of our founding fathers in this country were Christians. What is the most important Commandment that needs to be better represented in our legal system today?


Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife, nor his manservant, . . . nor anything that is thy neighbors.


All the problems in the middle east would stop if the pallies would stop being so jealous of what GOD has given his followers. They need to concentrate on the dirt and filth and war and just plain crappy lives that alla-the-fake has given them. Quit being so jealous to the point of war. Don't like us? Live better than us and shove your awesomeness in our faces! Can't? Get over it!

419 HUSKER  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 5:05:57pm
9) The "Patriot Act" is needed to help law enforcement snoop into the records of those that would do us harm. Regular citizens should have nothing to worry about, because they are not criminals. How many terrorists has this act caught since 9/11?


Ask the ACLU. If any of these otherwise peaceful, loving gems of society was to EVENTUALLY do something to us, the dumb dumb president would be blamed so the answer is, "I don't know". How many DUI tickets have saved a life? C'mon! Now! I want an actual number right now!

420 HUSKER  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 5:12:12pm
10) Outsourcing jobs is good, because it makes a profit. Importing drugs is bad, because it hurts profits. Explain to the average person how having someone in a foreign country doing their job, with access to cheaper healthcare, is good for them?


Ask Ta-ray-sah Heinz about outsourcing. I don't know. Why pay a guy 10/hr (twenty times his normal salary in China) when you can have a union guy do the same job for 57.00 per hour with a nine-minute coffeee break thrown in every ten minutes. Why bitch and complain about the WORLD. THE WORLD. OUR POLICIES AFFECT THE WORLD. THE WORLD. WE NEED TO SAVE PEOPLE IN THE WORLD WITH OUR MONEY. THE WORLD. WE CAN'T JUST BE HERE ON AN ISLAND. THE WORLD. EVERYTHING IS THE WORLD. THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION IS AFFECTING THE WORLD. Then bitch when we have companies in THE WORLD with people working at those companies!

421 HUSKER  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 5:16:02pm
1) Michael Moore is a big fat liar.

I agree with you there. So no argument. Oh, wait was that out of context? Isn't that weird?

Maybe the Saudis that Bush "Rushed away" on a jet had to get home to get some money to donate to Clinton's library. OUCH! Cigar anyone?

422 Cornish Intifada  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 5:27:33pm

Porfessoer Shahid needs to realise that there are minutemen who would like to preserve their heritage from the masses of unwanted muslim invaders that have settled in the west and when one day someone says enough is enough to the change in their country, culture and life and decides to take a shot at someone like him it will be a shot heard around the muslim world.

423 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 6:30:09pm

I sent him a message:

Dear Sir,

I read something you wrote saying that the 9-11 attackers were fighting for the lives liberty and dignity of their people. Let us look at this:

--What lives could the attackers have been protecting, were are there cemeteries of dead people killed by the United States or its policies? There should be tens of millions of people dead from American Imperialism to justify 9-11, yet it if one factors out deaths from AIDS (and the US is working a cure), human life expectancy worldwide has increased and no such cemeteries exist.

--Liberty is my favorite of your allegations; 90% of all Islamic countries are repressive dictatorships, one is not even free to practice Islam the way one wants in most Arab countries, none of them have regular elections, so what freedom and liberty were the attackers fighting for?

--Dignity- let me get this straight, to restore the Islamic world's dignity, they had to spectacularly murder 3000 people. Got some pretty strange ideas about dignity and restoring it, Dr Alam.

I was taught that Islam places a tremendous value on hospitality; a guest who spurns his host is considered beneath contempt. Most Americans don't care about the color of your skin, would fight to the death for your right to espouse any opinion (even ones as ridiculous and offensive as yours) but we have ideas about American hospitality and your unsupportable lies in defense of 19 murdering pieces of shit causes most Americans to want to ask you to leave.

Get out of this country. Leave. Go take pictures of the millions of people whom American medicine, liberty, investment and aid feed, heal and sustain all over the world.

My children won't live under militant Islam but your children will live under democracy.

424 jll3sonex  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 7:49:57pm

Well, I tried to keep it polite... but it's telling his comments counter doesn't seem to be incrementing at all. Perhaps they're all going to that great bit-bucket in the sky?

I keep hearing of the glories of Islam, yet never seem to see them in reality. Afghanistan was an Islamic wet dream - yet women dared not even go to school, or show themselves without a burqua. Saudi Arabia is certanly noted for the 'tolerance' of Islam - because no other religion is practiced in that country. Corruption run endemic in Muslim countries - is that an example of honesty and integrity? Muslims haven't exactly been in the forefront of scientific research, either. Where is the vaunted seeking of knowledge, unless it's seeking better ways to construct car bombs?

To get 'freedom' for Islam 19 hijackers destroyed 4 planes, two skyscrapers and the Pentagon. What sort of 'freedom' did they want? The 'freedom' to live like the Taliban? The 'freedom' to have a dictator 'appointed by Allah', never questioning any decisions of the government?

Surely it cannot have escaped your notice that the poorest countries in the world are almost all Muslim, and almost all with repressive theocracies. Could there be more of a connection with the REPRESSION and the style of government as a cause of their poverty, than the US or Israel causing it?

It's very easy to blame everyone else for the problems you have in your life. Many people do that - and some spend their entire lives claiming that everything wrong is somehow someone else's fault, that it's all a conspiracy. They complain that people keep setting blocks in their way to make them stumble - when all they need to do is take off the blindfold they keep pressed firmly to their eyes.

When will you remove the blindfold from your mind?

Sadly, that blindfold is culturally welded in place...

J.

425 Freedom Fan  Thu, Dec 30, 2004 11:50:38pm
On September 11, 2001, nineteen Arab hijackers too demonstrated their willingness to die - and to kill - for their dream.

Gee, this is certainly news to me. I trusted the arab version of events in which 70% of the islamo-facists believe that the Jews were responsible. This they believed this even after bin laden admitted to doing the deed on TV.

And that frenchman Meyssan, author of "Horrifying Fraud" will be disappointed to learn that it was not a scheme by the U.S. military. That will certainly put a damper on his book sales. Or maybe not; his readers, like bubble-brained M Moore fans, probably hate us so much that they enjoy reading and believing his lies regardless.

Here is a link to alam's web site. It's hilarious. He got world-class America-hater noam chomsky to endorse his pathetic new book "Is There an Islamic Problem?". Y'all will want to rush out and buy it.

426 John-Paul Pagano  Fri, Dec 31, 2004 2:26:05am

I've tried to bring together all the facets of the Professor Alam case. The America and Jew-hating well runs deep. Enjoy.

427 rayw  Fri, Dec 31, 2004 4:52:25am

#426 John-Paul

Very well done. We need to stay after this guy, and others like him. I emailed Students for Academic Freedom about him. They don't seem to have a chapter at Northeastern, but maybe they can look into the situation there anyway.

428 Studsup  Fri, Dec 31, 2004 5:56:32am

Columbia U, I had read, may be experiencing a similary problem. Some report had been done claiming that some professors are intimidating and discriminating against Jewish students in the classroom. If the email written by this particular professor is true, I would think it hard to believe that any Jewish student could be treated fairly or honestly by him. It could be worse, it could be that anyone who dares disagree with him might be treated unfairly.

Parents ought to demand tuition refunds. That would get the university's attention.

429 Malleus Dei  Fri, Dec 31, 2004 6:48:00am

This person is supporting terrorism and needs to be deported.

430 Freedom Fan  Fri, Dec 31, 2004 7:43:17am

#426 John-Paul

Awesome job. However, I would suggest you reformat your web site to make the message a little easier to read; it is squished into a 1 inch wide column in the middle of the screen.

Here is more evidence of the red-green alliance right here on this LGF thread: #8 ProudLiberals dot com. Instead of expressing outrage at professor alam's America-hating tirade, he chooses this thread to challenge our collective "Conservative Wisdom". His heroes are guardians of truth like michael (marx) moore, bill (bj) clinton, aclu (american certainly liberal union), and john (the gigalo) kerry. His enemies are W, Bill O'Reilly, Ashcroft, and Christ.

BYW here's another mystery of modern life (like nose-rings and neck tattoos). Why do both Jews and muslims overwhelmingly vote democratic? Don't Jews realize that conservatives are their very best friends in the world? How long do they think Israel would have lasted if Kerry became president and pulled us out of the Middle East? What about their opposition to gun control? Do they believe that the Holocaust could have occurred if Germany had been armed to the teeth like the U.S.? george soros spent around a billion dollars trying to elect gun-grabbing candidates. Thankfully he failed miserably, but what about next time? Somebody please explain to me this bizarre behavior...

431 ZionistJew  Fri, Dec 31, 2004 8:33:07am

Has anyone noticed the first name of this terrorist lover living in our midst - SHADID? This just about says it all for me. His mama should have named him JIHAD and the results would have been the same.
Now that Northeastern knows this scumbag's true feelings about his "adopted" homeland, what are they going to do about him? Perhaps throw him a party? Let us all not be fooled here for a minute - many of our US colleges protect and support these fiends.
Thank God my two children are busy little bees at MIT and Caltech. Their workloads are so brutal there is no time to pay attention to rantings from far left miscreant profs!
Memo to Homeland Security - Put this guy on your watchlist and hopefully deport his sorry ass!

432 garnier  Fri, Dec 31, 2004 1:18:03pm

My email to Northwestern regarding Shahid Alam's slander:

Dear Mr. Freeland,

I write to strenuously object to the propriety of one your faculty members comparing my ancestors Lt. Col. Elijah Lyman and General Joseph Warren, both commissioned officers of the Continental Army, to the 19 terrorist highjackers who targeted and succeeded to killing thousands of non-combatants in New York.

The founding fathers, needless to say, did not send terror squads to London to target British civilians.

The inability of M. Shahid Alam to make this crucial distinction, or his unwillingness to do so because of his religious duty as a Muslim to practice Dawah (propaganda for the sake of his religion) is an intentional slap in the face of the families of the victims of 9/11 murders, and a reprehensible denigration of the memory of the founding fathers of the US and their families who continue to honour their sacrifices.

My estimation for your distinguished University has definitely dropped a notch for employing such a man and allowing him a platform for his grossly inaccurate and hateful propaganda.

Sincerely,

433 garnier  Fri, Dec 31, 2004 1:33:15pm

From his web site:

"The America...that pushes a globalization that devastates the economies of the Third World..."

Uh excuse me professor, but I studied Raoul Prebisch and his dependency theory protectionist heirs whilst at the London School of Economics and I know full well the state of their reputation in serious economics departments around the world. They are no longer taken seriously by any but committed ideologues (Marxists).

The third world countries that develop rapidly and successfully (South Korea f. ex.) are those with the strongest ties to the US and the global economy.

This guy's a charlaten. He's not an economist.

434 bummer  Sat, Jan 1, 2005 11:18:47am

This may be petty but FYI,... It's impossible to debate those jerks at proudliberals dot com because they are intentionally and literally breaking URLs and screwing up posts. You just can't counter anything they claim because that blog site will not successfully post any active hyperlinks since extra spaces are added to forward slashes.

The error occurred in /var/www/vhosts/proudliberals.com/home2/note_add_n ew.cfm: line 12

10 :
11 : <!--- break url's --->
12 : <cfset form.N_Body = Replace(form.N_Body, "/", "/ ","all")>
13 :
14 : <!--- screw up post --->



These people really love their blindfolds.

-http:/ / proudliberals.com--- check for yourself


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