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Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 6:06:33 pm PST

A few days ago, a visitor from London, England discovered LGF by searching Google for 2005 mohammed name, and was so disturbed by what he found that he sent the following email through our contact form:

I am a journalist from the UK. A MUSLIM in the UK who is absolutely appalled at the comments I have read on your website concerning ‘Mohammed entering Top boys names’. I understand they may not be your views but how could you allow them to be printed on your site? And then you have a Tsunami appeal??? They are Muslims, mostly, that have died in South East Asia. I feel sick and rest assurred, I will be passing on details of your website to authorities concerned. Unless you apologize and shut it down. This is one of the most disgusting things I have seen in times when everyone should be living together and promoting peace.

In the interest of promoting peace and living together, and out of fear that the authorities concerned may haul me away to a shari’a re-education camp, I announce that I will hereby be shutting down LGF as of this very moment.

Not.

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1 Hari Seldon  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:08:27pm

had me scared there for a second charles


not

2 noshariaincanada  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:08:37pm

absolutely classic.

3 JammieWearingFool  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:08:37pm

Hope he knows what STFU means.

4 mseltzer  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:09:04pm

What's up his butt?

5 Hari Seldon  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:09:41pm

guess this is the upside to the internet being unregulatable eh

6 jhs  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:09:56pm

I love when you get mail Charles.The comedy begins!

7 ProudLiberals dot com  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:11:09pm

This guy must think you're all a bunch of zenophobic Hank Hill's.

How dare he!

8 JammieWearingFool  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:11:22pm

Charles,

Perhaps his email address accidentally appears?

9 Cavy  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:12:27pm

Obviously "Freedom of Speech" is a foreign idea to him ....
Guess maybe he figures all of us should be the same .... except of course him with his "enlightened" spirit ....

10 montanapatriot  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:12:45pm

Jackass fool ! Take him to the Tower and cut off his f***** head. Oh, abhorrent, stupid foooooooolll

11 JammieWearingFool  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:12:54pm

Dork dot com, would you like some propane accessories to go with your smug self-righteousness?

12 Dov  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:13:30pm

One day without LGF and I'm done, I was shaking when CJ said he's shutting it down NOT ! ROFLMAO

13 mcrognale  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:14:13pm

Who gives a rat's patoot what this [bigoted word], or any of them for that matter, thinks? Actually that's a mistake. As Muslims they are not trained or permitted to think.
Mike

14 SoCalJustice  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:15:34pm
This is one of the most disgusting things I have seen in times when everyone should be living together and promoting peace.

More disgusting than what this gentelman, living in your country, and also named "Mohammed" has been saying lately?

'I don't want you to join me, I want you to join bin Laden'

Each night around 7pm the voice of Omar Bakri Mohammed broadcasts from the home computers of dozens of his followers around the country.

His live webcasts, followed by question-and-answer sessions, last up to two hours. The adherents, who give themselves usernames such as The Sunni Triangle, Jihad04 and Mujaidah, can also ask private questions to which they do not want the answers broadcast.

For three nights last week The Times monitored Mr Bakri Mohammed’s lectures, listening and recording but not intervening to prompt any of his answers. In the past the Syrian-born cleric has been careful with his words. His pronouncements have sought to avoid breaking the law on inciting racial hatred or soliciting to kill and he has constantly denied recruiting people to fight the holy war. But in his recent webcasts, Mr Bakri Mohammed has been less discreet.

Between 60 and 70 people listened regularly to the webcasts, powered by the PalTalk network, and many asked questions about the so-called covenant of security in Britain and the role of Muslims in a time of jihad. Each lecture started theologically before shifting to politics and often becoming heated. Mr Bakri Mohammed frequently diverts into Arabic prayers, quotations and exhortations.

On January 10, Mr Bakri Mohammed proclaimed his view that the status of Britain had changed in the eyes of Islamists. The UK was no longer a place of security for Muslims.

“I am speaking about the UK. Why it became Dar ul Harb (land of war). Because the MCB (Muslim Council of Britain) and the British Government issue declaration over every single imam in the mosque, 1,000 mosques, to report any Muslims who want to speak in favour of what, in favour of the jihad.”

A short time later he continued: “I believe the whole of Britain has become Dar ul Harb. That Dar ul Harb has not started yet, but still really they start it. They arrest ulema (religious men), they arrest scholars . . . they declare your job is to divide the Muslims, promote secularism and the kuffar has said use of IDs, integration, etc, and you should report to the police. This is what makes it Dar ul Harb.”

Mr Bakri Mohammed also spoke extensively about the “victorious groups” that had in the past ruled the khilafah (Islamic state) and would do so again. He said: “We have lost the khilafah in 1924 but continue the victorious group into today. We have Sheikh Osama bin Laden, our emir, and he is admired by every single person so that is the victorious group.

“Al-Qaeda and all its branches and organisations of the world, that is the victorious group and they have the emir and you are obliged to join. It is no need yourself to mess about.

“I don’t want you to join me, I want you to join these people . . . Allah he said these are the victorious. And today the emir of that victorious group or one of them who is well known emir of the camp of jihan is Osama bin Laden. Therefore support him. Be with them.”

And:

Britain's online imam declares war as he calls young to jihad

AN EXTREMIST London cleric is using live broadcasts on the internet to urge young British Muslims to join al-Qaeda and has condoned suicide terrorist attacks. Omar Bakri Mohammed, who has lived in the UK for 18 years on social security benefits, pledged allegiance to Osama bin Laden and told his followers that they were in a state of war with Britain.

Disgusted, Mr. emailer?

15 KWH  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:15:45pm

Idiot! I believe this proves wankers like this really don't know what freedom of speech is or perhaps they think it's only for them, or muslims. Perhaps he should stay in a more commie inducive country?

16 gymnast  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:15:59pm

In this country we still have freedom of speech even if it is a bit crude to British journalists. So, Mr Journalist, Fuck Mohammed and do it in Mecca. I am in my country now.

17 RedWhiteAndJew  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:16:08pm

Charles, would you consider openning up that thread for a little while, so that the lizardroids can add a few more responses for the 'journalist' to have a fit over. Maybe we can get him to blow a tube.

18 Free Speech Is Only For über-Libs  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:16:19pm

LOL!

What is it with these fragile Muslims? We come to their aid in Bosnia and also in the aftermath of the Tsunami disaster, (even after their brethren slaughtered 3000 of our own innocent non-combatants) and he whines about content?

I'm really staring to think all Islamic men are pathetic fragile religious bigots who crumble over even the slightest glimpse of their own behavior. They really can't handle the truth, they really have no appreciation for any other paradigm other than their own pig-headed blind faith.
such pussies.
No wonder they make their women wear black sheets.

19 [Engineer]  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:16:25pm

I think I will start posting selections from the Quran about big MO. How he liked to screw little girls and cut off heads. That would really piss this "reporter" off.

20 T_IT_UP  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:16:32pm

Charles:

Ya' jus' gotta know de fuslim thinx yer' quakin' in yer' infidel boots!

Bbbbuuuuuwaaah-hahahahahahahahahahahahah!

4/(;8^'`D)

21 J.D.  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:17:17pm

Charles, I felt sick last night when I read mickthemick's post about cool mint colt 45.

#7
Proud of what?

22 LSD  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:18:08pm

Ahhh, yes.

The muslim "intellectual."

23 octopus  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:18:40pm

I am a journalist from the UK. A MUSLIM in the UK who is absolutely appalled

Oh, well then...we'd better mind our p's and q's, eh wot? No Nazi uniforms in public, that's for sure!

24 KWH  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:19:08pm

Engineer,
Might not be a bad idea. Lots of "goodies" in that thar koranic-thingy-ma-jiggy-ma-bob to make em blow a fuse or three.

25 foreign devil  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:20:59pm

Always with the THREATS!

If you don't do this, or if you don't do that, or if you don't do as I say I'm going to do this or that to you. I really DESPISE these people now. :(

26 Raziel (Troll Devouring Blader)  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:21:03pm

Hahahahah!

27 Old Fart 43  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:21:26pm

Live together in peace. Hmmm, is that before or after they cut our heads off.

28 arf  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:21:45pm

Actually, the thing that scares me is, if LGF really WERE in the United Kingdom somewhere, that MUSLIM in the UK very likely could get LGF shut down.

29 Cavy  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:21:48pm

Guess he wants us to do the Rodney King thing and "Just all get along" in the same way the victims of the NJ Islamic Slaying did NY Post

30 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:22:18pm
I am a journalist from the UK.

There's your first problem. What're the odds on him being from one of the more "open-minded" publications from our friends across the pond?

A MUSLIM in the UK who is absolutely appalled at the comments I have read on your website concerning ‘Mohammed entering Top boys names’.

As has been said many times before, by Charles, by us, and by our defenders, nobody is forcing you to click that comments button. Nor are they forcing you to keep reading if you get offended.

I understand they may not be your views but how could you allow them to be printed on your site?

For a journalist, I would assume he'd be familiar with the words "freedom of speech."

And then you have a Tsunami appeal?

Well, we feel that giving to our fellow man in his time of need is a noble and honorable thing, contrary to the beliefs of the Left.

They are Muslims, mostly, that have died in South East Asia.

And we all see the Muslim world just rushing to fork over millions to help them out....right?

I feel sick and rest assurred, I will be passing on details of your website to authorities concerned. Unless you apologize and shut it down.

Sorry, Sparky, but that's why that disclaimer is there. Besides, what would be guilty of? Stating our opinions and providing evidence to back them up?

This is one of the most disgusting things I have seen in times when everyone should be living together and promoting peace.

Hey, when the Muslim World starts trying to promote peace, we'll follow suit. Until then, we've no desire to show weakness in a time of war where weakness is as good as surrender.

31 KWH  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:22:35pm
Live together in peace. Hmmm, is that before or after they cut our heads off.

Definately after, you know: Rest In Peace, or is that....pieces?

32 MagnaniomousCoward  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:22:48pm

You realise, Charles, that if that new British law was enacted in the US, you may have had to hire somebody from the PLO to approve every comment just to be safe.

True, there are extreme comments on this site, but all legal. Charles removes any "troll" posts that go into illegal territory or link to nazi sites etc.

33 Quilly Mammoth  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:22:54pm

So much for free speech. Then again, Freedom of Speech in the EU is not a Right as we ignorant ass Americans look at it. We have this odd notion that other than yelling "Fire" in a theatre one should be allowed to say whatever one wants. How provincial.

RoPMA

QM

34 The Powers That Be  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:23:02pm

Haha.

great stuff! But I want to know why this character was searching "2005 Mohammed name" ? What was he looking for?

35 foreign devil  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:23:03pm

Gee Charles, I know you won't do it but post his address so we can do our 'missionary' bit and re-educate him.

36 Thom  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:24:05pm
I feel sick and rest assurred, I will be passing on details of your website to authorities concerned. Unless you apologize and shut it down.

Apologize for what?

This is one of the most disgusting things I have seen in times when everyone should be living together and promoting peace.

This asshole moslem journalist is right. We are much more disgusting than beheadings, honor killings, bomb vests, truck bombs and on and on and on ...

All hail mohammed the pedophile murderer thief all around psycho!

#4 mseltzer

islam.

37 Craig Abu Al-Boo-Boo  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:25:39pm

Hey, just in case this moron comes back to read some more, just let me say that Mohammed was a pedophile, a fraud, a thief and a murderer.

Oh yeah, and one more thing, I'm thinking about getting a pot bellied pig and naming him Mohammed.

The First Amendment. It's a beautiful thing!

38 ferris  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:25:44pm

Typical leftist BS. This guy is "appalled" and "sickened" so the state should come in and sooth his feelings by enforcing his standards of right and wrong.

We'll some of us are "appalled" and "sickened" by the spread of islam in the UK.

Here's a proposed trade: The UK kicks out all muslims and we'll stop writing about them. This way the state acts to enforce both groups preferences and no one is 'appalled' or 'sickened'.

Now Mr. Big Time English journalist man, can you see that resorting to state control of thought and speech is a double edged sword (sorry, I couldn't come up with a non-knife analogy)?

39 Quilly Mammoth  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:26:05pm

#35 foreign devil

You mean converted Iron Fist style? I'd love to see that email!

QM

40 LSD  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:26:08pm

What's the chance a "Mohammed" killed the Copts in New Jersey?

41 J.D.  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:26:11pm

OT Housecleaning in Syria?
Free Ride Is Over

Warning UK muslim journalist. You may find this appalling.

42 whiterasta  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:26:20pm

Hey mohammed the journalist:

Go back to your mosq and worship your pedophile prophet.

We over here in The Civilzed World don't give a rat's ass what you think!

Better yet, go home and beat your child bride, the wanton slut.

Report LGF to who? The Grand Wizard Mufti?

Is being a brain dead moron the main qualification for being a mohammedean?

43 SwampWoman  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:26:33pm

Woah, the complete lack of sentence structure, punctuation and grammar in a letter from a self-claimed journalist is one of the most disgusting things I have seen.

44 NuclearTinkerbell  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:26:53pm
I will be passing on details of your website to authorities concerned.

Authorities? Does he mean the UK Thought Police or the guys who made the Theo Van Gogh house-call? Did he sign his name, Mohammed?

As always, be careful, Charles.

45 ibmkeyboard  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:26:58pm

charles, please shut me down,
i am really frightened by all these keyboard scare tactics.

sticks and stones will hurt ,
but a good keyboard can bring tears to your eys.

ps, how come i missed the ten boys names, how about a re post.

46 LSD  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:27:36pm

This is why the outhouse has a Cresent Moon on the door.

47 Ann  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:27:41pm
This is one of the most disgusting things I have seen in times when everyone should be living together and promoting peace.


You go first, you ^#@*& ...
I am so sick of this bullshit.

48 Spiny Norman  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:28:16pm

#14 SoCalJustice

But in his recent webcasts, Mr Bakri Mohammed has been less discreet.

That always happens, don't it? Give them enough rope...

49 RebTex  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:29:21pm

Charles
Rest assured...They take you to a "re-education" camp,
I'll bring a bunch o' deep east Texas boys & bust you out!
There won't be any charge.....but we get to keep the table cloths.
they make GREAT curtains for our trailer houses!

50 Mike C.  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:30:05pm

Now THAT'S entertainment ! Heh.

51 lawdog  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:31:11pm

that limey sense of humor! what a joker that guy is.
Bah ha ha ha! smirk, smirk.

52 oldengr  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:31:28pm

This is one of the most disgusting things I have seen in times when everyone should be living together and promoting peace.

More disgusting that showing videos of beheadings? Imagine that!

53 Embermage  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:31:49pm

Mwahahahahaha. I like being a provincial colonial, QM. I've got my heritage to remind me what to do with the English. On one side I get the legacy of freedom and self direction. And kicking English ass. On the other side I get the legacy of, well, freedom and self direction. And kicking English ass. So you were saying something insulting mister Englishman?

No worries. He can threaten all he likes. I think last time I checked we had something called facts around here. Powerful things, facts.

54 NY Nana  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:32:58pm

Charles

Perhaps he should register his complaint with the WaPO?

Sadly this seems typical of one of them...his way or the highway. The truth about their cult becomes more and more evident with every act of stupidity like his, and some day some of the cult members may wake up and flee, just as was done in Jamestown.

He is too thick to comprehend what LGF is about. I would bet that if he is indeed, as alleged, a journalist,he is either with al beeb, al Guardian or al Independent.....or is really Fisk, with his knickers in a knot that mm won the coveted Fiskie rather than him.

That DDOS last week had us all emailing back and forth frantically....

55 FunkMachine  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:33:50pm

#4 mseltzer

A big dollop of shit most probably, the same as in his brain.

One has to be a shit-for-brains to believe that a paedophile, rapist, thief and murderer is the best example of all men for all mankind forever.

56 SwampWoman  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:34:28pm
feel sick and rest assurred, I will be passing on details of your website to authorities concerned. Unless you apologize and shut it down. This is one of the most disgusting things I have seen in times when everyone should be living together and promoting peace.

Them's some mighty strong words from folk that need explicit instruction on how to wipe their asses.

57 lawdog  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:34:53pm

#49 Reb Tex
Like how deep east Texas? Crockett? Tennyhaw, Tempson, Bobo and Blair? let me know if we have to bust him out. Dallas aint that far.

58 Spiny Norman  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:35:08pm
This is one of the most disgusting things I have seen in times when everyone should be living together and promoting peace.

We need to always remember, when a muslim says "peace" he means "submission."

59 NuclearTinkerbell  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:35:09pm

I'm going to start referring to euthanasia as, the Mohammed Treatment, from now on. Do you think anyone will be offended?

60 whiterasta  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:35:34pm

#43 swamp woman:.."complete lack of sentence structure, punctuation and grammar in a letter from a self-claimed journalist..."

How dare you criticize a man?

Ah, never mind he probably works for the British Bhagdad Corporation.

Brit tax $ at work.

I sincerely hope he is reading this thread and reporting us all to the Grand Wizard Mufti Child Molester and Camel Shagger in Soddomite Arabia.

61 Geepers  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:37:03pm

"We will all live in peace, or I will kill you."

62 RebTex  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:37:20pm

Law Dawg
Toledo Bend area
Newton County

63 lawdog  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:38:21pm

some very nice bass in Toledo Bend. yes, indeed.

64 Raziel (Troll Devouring Blader)  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:38:26pm

59) NuclearTinkerbell

euthanasia?! I thought it was Euro-nasia?

65 elandadem  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:38:28pm

This was not sent by a Brit. The British spell "apologize" as "apologise". If you're going to commit fraud do a little more research - otherwise, we'll think you work for CBS.

66 Spiny Norman  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:39:30pm

#59 NuclearTinkerbell

Mohammedize?

Mohammedation?

Do the Big Mo?

=^0

67 Catttt  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:39:34pm

I haven't said this in years, but gag me with a spoon.

Get over yourself, Mohammed UK (have a feeling he's named Mohammed).

We shall not be moved.

68 RebTex  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:39:55pm

I always thought it was youth in Asia

69 montanapatriot  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:40:06pm

#10

Sorry, guess that was a little much, but I'm sick that the English are going bye-bye so easily. I mean, they're willing to sacrifice everything ? ..... Henry II, Eleanor, Elizabeth I, Magna Carta, Longshanks, all my lifelong favorites ..... and let the 'slimes take over? How many ruins do they think will be left standing when every Muslim who looks at them thinks, "Kill the Crusaders, tear down their castles." Not to mention the churches.

Never in my wildest thoughts did I ever . . . .

70 Bayou_King  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:40:27pm

Charles made a funny!

hehehmmhmmheemmmhehemmmhuhhuhhuh

:-)))

71 Eric MN  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:40:29pm

#19

I think I will start posting selections from the Quran about big MO. How he liked to screw little girls and cut off heads. That would really piss this "reporter" off.

i am in favor of this proposal. in fact... i am intrigued by your ideas, and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

72 abu_garcia  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:41:49pm
I will be passing on details of your website to authorities concerned. Unless you apologize and shut it down.

Will all LGF'rs who think "hate crime" and "hate speech" legislation is a good idea please read this and think again.

73 jhs  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:41:51pm

a visitor from London, England discovered LGF by searching Google for 2005 mohammed name, and was so disturbed...

See Charles, islamics will probably get plenty of LGF exposure if you put the name mohammed in your headlines more often.

74 whiterasta  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:42:02pm

...."They are Muslims, mostly, that have died in South East Asia..."

That's because allah hates muslims, that's why he drowned them all.

75 the classical liberal  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:42:53pm

I have no love whatsoever for Islam or islamo-fascists and yet
I do find that a lot of comments are very sophomoric. Yes, I know that this is a blog, and no I have no problem with cursing. However, aside from venting one of the things this blog is useful for is to persuade others to our side. One of the things we ridicule the left about is that they haven’t realized that while venting galvanizes the converted it alienates everyone else.

Mohammed’s pedophilia is a non-essential, just as Alexander's homosexuality is a non-essential. It is Mohammed’s philosophy and his follower's understanding of it that matters. There have and are plenty of cultures where marriage to young girls are the norm.

In 19th C America there were plenty of 16 year olds getting married. A girl of 20 who wasn't married was getting concerned; at 24 she was being pitied. Now we are appalled at the idea of a 16 year old being married.

76 Embermage  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:43:26pm

#69 montanapatriot

I don't think it's quite so bad as that. There might be issues with some of the more highly populated areas, but most of midlands and north England are okay, ditto Wales and Scotland. It doesn't have to go the way of Old Europe

77 SwampWoman  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:44:20pm

Hey. I found another typo. It typed "peace" when it meant "pieces".

78 SwampWoman  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:46:39pm

#75 classic

In 19th C America there were plenty of 16 year olds getting married. A girl of 20 who wasn't married was getting concerned; at 24 she was being pitied. Now we are appalled at the idea of a 16 year old being married.

And the lifespan then was how long, exactly?

79 T_IT_UP  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:47:18pm

#75 the classical liberal:

It's called separating the wheat from the chaff.

"You're either for us or you're against us."

Lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way.

Your pseudo-philosophy just gets in the way.

80 cba  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:47:39pm

#75 the classical liberal:

aside from venting one of the things this blog is useful for is to persuade others to our side. One of the things we ridicule the left about is that they haven’t realized that while venting galvanizes the converted it alienates everyone else.

Very true.

In 19th C America there were plenty of 16 year olds getting married. A girl of 20 who wasn't married was getting concerned; at 24 she was being pitied. Now we are appalled at the idea of a 16 year old being married.

Not nearly as appalled as I am at the idea of a 6 year old being married, with the marriage consumated when she was 9.

Mohammed's pedophilia may be "non-essential," but it still was pedophilia.

81 elandadem  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:48:22pm

RE: 75 Classic Lib

Mohammed’s pedophilia is a non-essential

Only if you fail to realize that those who follow him strive to emulate him, which of course leads to imitation.

Your argument was articulate, surely you must realize this.

82 Geepers  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:48:37pm
Mohammed entering Top boys names

Um, I think most muslim "boys" are bottoms.

They only get to be "tops" when they're older.

And I don't think Mohammed will be "entering" their "names" unless "names" is UK MUSLIM slang for assholes.

And why the fuck did you capitalize "Top" you ignorant wanker?

Oh, and if you thought that thread was an insult to "MUSLIM"s, you ain't seen nothing yet.

83 psginfinity  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:49:51pm

#75 the classical liberal:

Just as long as you ARE, indeed, a "Classic Liberal". These folks can spot a fake one a mile away...

84 cba  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:50:12pm

#80 (my post):
And one more thing... when Mohammed's marriage to Aisha is considered, like everything else Mohammed did, to be the model that good Muslim men should follow, then it is not "non-essential."

(I still agree with you about the venting... )

85 Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:50:23pm

Charles, I'm appaled that you aren't more sensitive to the concerns of this gentleman. Surely you can understand that you have it all wrong, and that Islam is really a religion of peace and love, right?

/do I even need it?

86 Bayou_King  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:50:29pm

#76 Embermage  1/16/2005 06:43PM PST
 
#69 montanapatriot

I don't think it's quite so bad as that. There might be issues with some of the more highly populated areas, but most of midlands and north England are okay, ditto Wales and Scotland. It doesn't have to go the way of Old Europe
--------------------------

embermage,
thanks for that ray of hope!

i really hadn't thought about it like that . . .

so is it red state/blue state over there too?

is it just the large cities like london and manchester, etc. where this is going on - - - how do the jihadis do in the north country? do they go there?

87 cba  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:51:36pm

#81 elandadem:
GMTA!

88 Thom  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:53:15pm

#75 the classical liberal

mohammed's pedophilia is part and parcel of islam. In fact, sex with small boys and girls is one of the "allures" of the moslem "paradise".

Don't minimize the role of pedophilia in islam. Check it out.

89 Rayra[deleted]  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:54:00pm
90 Duane  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:54:16pm

That reporter fails to realize that the lizardoids are avid supporters of the first amendment AND the second amendment. Unlike the populace in the UK, we are armed and can defend ourselves.

91 SkippyMoment  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:55:04pm

This guy needs to get a life, cause the one he has obviously isn't working for him.

HELLO... it's called Freedom of Speech!
Look you poor abused muslim weenie, we are DEEPLY offended by the tenants of your faith, and the butchery your 'pillars of the religious community' perpetrate on innocents just because they won't cowtow to your leaders.

Stay in London. Don't ever come here and spew that crap. Oh our abetting MSM may give you a medal, but the heart and soul of this country has some other gift in mind. A re-education of your own.

Oh, and leave our Lizard Master alone. You aren't worthy to be the stool beneath his feet.

92 psginfinity  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:56:09pm

#88 Thom 

Well done! Turned my stomach...

93 WarBicycle  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:56:31pm

"This is one of the most disgusting things I have seen in times when everyone should be living together and promoting peace."

He must live a sheltered life or hasn't visited an Islamic country otherwise he would have experienced even more disgusting things perpetrated by the Religion of Satan.

94 ajackson  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:57:24pm

I feel sick and rest assurred, I will be passing on details of your website to authorities concerned.

Authorities concerned - I assume the means the United Nitwits. You can expect them to form a committee to study the issue consisting of leading luminaries in the area of human rights from the governments of Iran, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, and the Sudan. Then about eighteen months later they will issue a paper. After that, Kofi Annan will issue a statement denouncing you, and warning that if you fail to mend your ways - they will form another committee.

95 Craig Abu Al-Boo-Boo  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 4:59:23pm

Oh you infidel, kaffir unbelievers, how can you explain this? Actual image of Mohammed's ascent to heaven.

96 Hank  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:01:01pm

#49 and #57 They's some Mizzippiains that would join that "bustin out party with ya'll. As the Prez said... "Bring it on"

97 RebTex  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:02:08pm

#96 Hank
Stand by & be at ready!

98 SlothB77  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:03:17pm
I understand they may not be your views but how could you allow them to be printed on your site?


No, they are our views. Welcome to life in the real world. This is not the UK.

99 KWH  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:04:13pm

muHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAmed

100 Thom  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:04:21pm

#92 psginfinity

Sorry. But it's really nauseating how so many people readily excuse/ignore/attempt to minimize pedophilia in islam.

(And, before anyone starts going on about abusive Catholic priests, please note that they are perverts and that pedophilia is not enshrined in the canonical literature or envisioned as one of the delights of heaven ...)

101 montanapatriot  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:04:56pm

#28 Arf

Arf, I'm scared too. How long till that DOES happen here?

102 Marine Momma  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:05:42pm

I wonder how he feels about Harry's swastika garb!
He can complain all he wants, but this is America, and we still have our freedom of speech.,,,something Islam doesn't approve of!

103 TalkinKamel  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:06:07pm

#74 The Classical Liberal

Mohammed's pedophilia is, alas, all to relevant, vis a vis the sexual abuse going on in the Islamic world today, and the horribly young age at which girls there are wed. The Ayatollah Khomeni once stated that a girl should not see her first period in her father's house, and he, himself, married a very young girl, I believe she was between the age of 9 and 12.

A girl---a child---married this young, has no chance to really grow up, to become her own person, to gain an education---not to mention the sheer physical pain and hardship of frequently being deflowered before the age of puberty, and forced to give birth before she was fully, physically mature.

Yes, girls used to marry young in Western culture too---and they died at a greater rate than men, in childbirth, and because they were often just plain worn out before the age of 30. We know better now. The Moslem world, alas, is still doing it. One of the reasons they are still doing it, is that in Islam Mohammed is considered "The Perfect Man", the man who should be emulated in all things.

104 Orbit Rain  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:06:32pm
how could you allow them to be printed on your site

lol..it's called freedom of expression Mr. Muslim Journalist. Deal with it... and we aren't *actually* killing all your dumbass Imams that like to pop off at the mouth.

oooh did I say DUMBASS?!?!?!?!

deal with it.

*They* are free, around the world (it seems) to say what they may, without much real fear of retribution.

I seem to recall some prohibition about using God as a stick by a "Man of God"

I try to avoid using God as a stick, how about you?

105 Marine Momma  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:06:39pm

Charles, can we say [bigoted word] now? I saw it in the beginning posts and will try to post this.

106 Marine Momma  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:07:46pm

YEAH!
[bigoted word], [bigoted word], [bigoted word].....THEY ARE ALL [bigoted word]S!
(you would have had to been on the one thread to understand this!)

107 cba  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:09:06pm

#105 Marine Momma:
Speaking for myself, I dislike the term intensely.

108 TalkinKamel  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:09:30pm

Charles, you may want to inform the FBI about this guy's Email.

He may be involved in some things they may be interested in hearing about; and I don't like that threat about reporting you to the "authorities". What "authorities" are these? "Friends" who are going to come after you? I'd report this.

109 Marine Momma  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:10:07pm

cba, for that I'm sorry, but from what my son told me while he was in Iraq, that's the nicest name I can call them in a public forum.

110 CrusaderGirl  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:12:52pm

Good lord,

This man probably works for the al Mujahiroun or some other scion of the Finsbury Park mosque.

My husband and I recently returned from a trip to Europe.

It's doomed. I only hope some semblance of it still exists when my children are old enough to appreciate it.

I'm not too hopeful. though.

111 Bayou_King  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:12:59pm

gonna go out on a psychological limb here...

is it possible that the (fanatic) muslim fascination with sex with young boys comes from a repressed anger and a transferred desire to strike back at the imams who crush their egos and keep them down?

/ducks and plugs ears

112 Rayra[deleted]  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:13:40pm
113 sonofsheldon  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:14:12pm

Gee whiz, eveyone is being so hard on this muslim journalist. I on the other hand would like to extend my hand in friendship and invite him over to my place where we could have a few beers and read chapter 6, Return to Jahilia, of Rushdie's The Satanic Verses together.

Oh, wait . . . I forgot.
Well, it was a thought.

114 Marine Momma  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:15:20pm

Rayra, has nothing to do with the Corp, has everything to do with the fanatics.

115 montanapatriot  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:16:40pm

#49 Reb Tex

They ALREADY have re-education camps here in this country. They have them at Health & Welfare. They're for "bad parents" and they call them "Thinking Errors Class." I know cause I worked there for 7 years and was lucky to escape intact.

116 Geepers  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:18:29pm

Maybe this "journalist" could do a twelve part series on the necessities of preforming clitorectomies.

Or possibly a critical expose on why it's better to use a dull knife when murdering filthy kufrs.

Maybe he could investigate the best ways of disposing of your sister's body after you restored your families' honor by brutally murdering her. (Or maybe the joys of raping your sister.)

The best places to aim for when killing homos with rocks.

117 Kantana  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:20:12pm

""I am a journalist from the UK. A MUSLIM in the UK who is absolutely appalled ""

If i were a journalist from Europe i would be deeply appalled and disgusted at myself too..especially if i were a MUSLIM.journalist.Maybe he can enlighten some LFGers about the love and peace he has contributed in the press about Israel and the jewish communities in Europe.

118 Joshua (not a hamster) Scholar  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:20:13pm

I vaguely remember reading some blog that had a header to the effect that some Euro court had declared it illegal to link to said blog.

It may well be that blogs can be outlawed if their critisism is judged to pass some sandard of offensiveness or some such. Does anyone know for sure?

119 Bayou_King  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:22:54pm

#106 Marine Momma  1/16/2005 07:07PM PST
 
YEAH!
[bigoted word], [bigoted word], [bigoted word].....THEY ARE ALL [bigoted word]S!
(you would have had to been on the one thread to understand this!)
--------------------------
MM, i'm gonna have to find that thread . . . because about a month ago i used the word "[bigoted word]" in a post . . .and lo and behold, when the thread refreshed it appeared that i had evidently said the word, "ARAB!"

it was actually a quite weird feeling (though it quite eviscerated my comment). . . made me wonder how i would sound to others if my daily conversations were put through such a filter . . .

120 syb  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:23:24pm

My .02 ...

This is directed to 'A MUSLIM' -- You say you are appalled at our views. OK So What...

Are you appalled by
(1) the beheading of innocent civilians who are trying to rebuild
Iraq or
(2) the car bombs killing civilian Iraqis or
(3) the paltry amount of $ put up by the Gulf states for the tsunamai victims or
(4) Blaming EVERYONE else for muslims killing non-muslims or
(5) Muslims killing muslims in Sudan or
(6) Saddam Insane killing (by gas), torturing his own people ... This is just a partial list

Need I go on?

Here in America we have freedom of speech and we for the most part do not make good dhimmis.

If you should read this comment I would like to reply to the following questions ...
(1) Why is there conflict where ever Muslims are? Philliphines, Thailand, Indonesia, Sudan to name a few ...
(2) Why when there are beheadings, car bombings of civilians, etc are there no out cry against these acts?
(3) Where is the outcry from Muslims when Imams or Shieks preach hate and destruction or America, Israel whatever?

I await your answer, but I'm not holding my breath. All you seem to be doing is whinying (sp?) like a child. Why didn't you post questions about what you were reading? You might have gotten some very polite and insightfull responses.

SYB

121 biff  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:23:27pm

I live on a farm. This article has inspired me to name our next piglet, Mohammed. In fact, I will probably call them all Mohammed from now on.

122 Thom  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:24:40pm

Marine Momma -

While I certainly appreciate your distaste, I really don't see the point in resorting to such epithets - it only reflects poorly on us. There's plenty of material to work with without making fun of their head gear.

123 Marine Momma  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:25:29pm

bayou king. it was friday night. when i typed in [bigoted word] it came in as arab. you know, there is so much cruder language used here...would others prefer i use 4 letter words to describe them?

124 montanapatriot  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:26:43pm

#76 Embermage

That's right . . . England isn't IN Europe. England is England. At least that's a little comforting. Thanks for making me feel better.

125 lazytart  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:26:45pm

Woo hoo.

The AUTHORITIES.

lol
lol

126 Rayra[deleted]  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:27:58pm
127 SwampWoman  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:28:27pm

#122 Thom:

While I certainly appreciate your distaste, I really don't see the point in resorting to such epithets - it only reflects poorly on us. There's plenty of material to work with without making fun of their head gear.

So is goat f***ers in or out? It isn't headgear.

128 Marine Momma  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:28:28pm

thom, would you rather me call them words that have 4 letters? some of the language here offends me but i am not going to jump on people for using it. i asked my son about calling them [bigoted word]s and he said i should hear what they called them.

129 lazytart  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:28:48pm

What's next, Muslim limey?

Breaking and entering, with a side of slitting throats?

130 former demo  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:29:06pm

#121 Biff

Yeah, I live on a farm, too. It's called the Bay Area.

Just watched the 60 minute story and was reduced to tears by the death of 'frenchie'. A great soldier, born in France.

I vote to get every pig's ass. Human or otherwise. I am sick of this crap.

131 Rayra[deleted]  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:29:40pm
132 Marine Momma  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:30:23pm

rayra...again, would you rather i use 4 letter words like some others do? those offend me, but i'm not jumping all over them about it.

133 Thom  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:31:21pm

#127 SwampWoman

Not a big fan of that one, either ...

#128 Marine Momma

I don't intend to jump on you, just asking that we be mindful of language.

</monumental hypocrite?>

134 lazytart  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:31:27pm

I like four letter words, myself.

:)

135 Marine Momma  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:31:49pm

rayra, you go ahead and call them that, I'll use [bigoted word]s. if you don't like it then just skip my posts.

136 maumau  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:31:54pm

121 Rayra

Let me get this straight - it's okay to call the butchers, pedophiles, sodomites, and goat fuckers anything except [bigoted word]s. Where's that first amendment you all keep referring to?

And claiming that something said on LGF reflects poorly on the Corps is the height of absurdity.

TIA

137 robert  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:32:24pm

What is his email..so we can nicely respond to the putz?

138 lazytart  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:32:30pm

Maumau!

Where've you been?!?

139 cba  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:32:43pm

#131 Rayra:
Marine Momma doesn't want to use swears, so I would like to amend your suggestion to "murderous Wahhabi." [Marine Momma, if you find "bastard" acceptable, then you could certainly append it. Or not, if such is your preference.]

140 biff  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:33:56pm

130 former demo

What did you think of the insurgent embedded photo-journalist? What was CBS's point? I guess it was to equate their own journalistic intent.

141 maumau  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:34:09pm

lazytart

I've been out of the country...came back from tropics to -10 degrees here in heartland.

142 Marine Momma  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:34:45pm

cba, don't like swear words at all, sticking to [bigoted word]s. pls pass by my posts along with rayra.

143 realwest  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:35:05pm

"This is one of the most disgusting things I have seen in times when everyone should be living together and promoting peace."
You mean, I assume, when Indonesia forbids an Israeli aircraft loaded with medical supplies and food etc. for the victims is told it can't land because they're Jewish?
Or do you mean the US Marines who are busy getting food, medical supplies, doctors, corpsman and etc. into the "hinterlands": "must be out of Indonesia by March 31"?
Say what, old chap?
I personally believe the USA should match dollar for dollar the aid ALL other Muslim nations are donating to the relief effort. And not one penny more (and I am TRULY sorry that so many victims will go without aid, but let's face it, most of the aid and the money are going to the heads of the affected countries, not to the victims themselves anyway). You know, spend less on c-4 and more on food, water, shelter and medical aid. YOU
are the one who should be reported to the authorities.

144 RayH  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:35:26pm

Marine Momma
The term [bigoted word] is used quite frequently in the military, but many of the things used in the military aren't appropriate in the civilian world. Of course not everyone who wears a turban or some other islamic/arabic headgear is a muslim. Think of the
Sihks.

145 texanista  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:35:45pm

THAT'S IT! JUST KILL THEM ALL AND LET GOD SORT THEM OUT! STICK A FORK IN 'EM..... THEY'RE DONE.... !

146 Marine Momma  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:37:45pm

rayh, i realize that and i have been told by many military that [bigoted word] is the least offensive name they have for them.
the sihks are to me sihks, the goons trying to kill our guys are [bigoted word]s.

147 Thom  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:38:12pm

#144 RayH

Think of the Sihks.

Excellent point. An unfortunate Sikh was murdered after 9/11.

"[bigoted word]", "[bigoted word]", "diaperhead" are actually dangerous epithets for some innocent religious groups.

148 realwest  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:39:28pm

#46 LSD -ROFLMAO!

149 texanista  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:42:20pm

I was speaking of only those of the RoP.... nobody else..

150 montanapatriot  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:43:02pm

Oh, and leave our Lizard Master alone. You aren't worthy to be the stool beneath his feet.

CUTE

151 Marine Momma  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:43:14pm

texanista...gee whiz, no one jumped down your throat!

152 chewydog  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:43:28pm

Can't we just ban this "religion" worldwide? I know, nodroG say's we would have to convert everyone of them, but that's not true. Most were born into it and would get over it.

153 Nomorelies  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:43:31pm

Sometimes I have visions of Delta Force slitting throats in the dark of the night......bodies mysteriously disappearing in the oceans......

154 Geepers  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:45:05pm

Take your pick

I think I like shit hand.

155 SwampWoman  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:45:27pm

#133 Thom

Not a big fan of that one, either ...

Right. Caprine sodomizers it is.

156 Marine Momma  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:46:32pm

geepers, LOL! I'm stickin with [bigoted word].

157 Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:47:48pm

Allah is a moon god.

Just thought I'd throw that in there to break the ice.

158 lykeios  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:49:02pm

See, letting people comment was bad enough, but then on top of that you had to have an appeal to help tsunami victims!

Only MUSLIMS are allowed to have charities to help Muslims, so that they can ensure that all the money is sent to Hamas, Hizbollah, and Islamic Jihad utilized properly.

And of course, everyone knows that NO HINDUS OR BUDDHISTS were hit by the Tsunami...

159 montanapatriot  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:49:11pm

#95 Craig

Well, at least we don't have to see IT'S feet touching Temple Mount.

160 Spiny Norman  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:51:00pm

#154 Geepers

No abdullahs.

That would be especially appropriate since it means, literally,

"slave of allah"

:^P

161 chewydog  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:51:36pm

Thom

From a previous thread:

” Isn't everyone sick and tired of these assholes yet?

So, asshole is ok. But [bigoted word]?..................Kind of a double standard, don't you think?

162 SwampWoman  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:51:38pm

#154 geepers

I'm real fond of roman candle and firecracker, myself.

163 texanista  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:52:32pm

151 I still take it personally..... I'm ready to get rid of them all... that's all I have to say about that....

164 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:53:26pm

So, these unnamed authorities want our bloggers, do they?

MOLON LABE!

165 Marine Momma  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:55:23pm

texanista, me too, sooner than later, especially before they start entwining their laws here.

166 Terrye  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:56:11pm

Charles you stop this right now.

Say you are sorry.

No doubt if you do that the Muslim journalist who was so aghast when he visited your site will immediately call on all young men to devote themselves to a life of prayer and non violence.

No more beheadings. No more stonings. No more honor killings. No more terrorizing people just because they don't pray facing Mecca,etc.

We will all live in peace.

You betcha.

167 reader  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 5:58:52pm

To the Muslim journalist,

Here is proof that we are indeed different. I am assured of this, that no Martin Luther King Jr., nor Abraham Lincoln has ever arisen in the Muslim world. It could never happen, nor will it happen, as long as Islam and Islamic civilization cannot accept the dignity that only freedom can accord and equality can sustain, as surely as it was intended, by God, for all humanity.

168 JWM  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 6:00:23pm

#95 abu
Best laugh I've had in weeks.
JWM

169 pookleblinky  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 6:03:24pm

Belgium!

170 SwampWoman  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 6:03:54pm

#153 Nomorelies

Sometimes I have visions of Delta Force slitting throats in the dark of the night......bodies mysteriously disappearing in the oceans......

Shooooo! For a moment there, I thought you had written that you have visions of Delta Burke slitting throats in the dark of the night....

171 justdanny  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 6:05:20pm

Oh heck Charles ... come on already ... give us at least the part of his addy that appears before @

Please ..?..?

172 Geepers  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 6:05:45pm

pookleblinky (#169),

Belgium!

Oh now that's just going too far.

173 former demo  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 6:06:12pm

#140 Bif
As I said, I'm still living in the pig farm here. And yes, they made their point on CBS tonight and I still hate them. And respect our soldiers and love them.

Remember, I am surrounded by these blue people. Neighbor lady whom I tailed tonight in her big ass Mercedes ( I can afford one myself, but prefer to think of my 17 year old saab as my carrera), bitch can't drive, I was reading all of her bumper stickers, Kerry, Democarcy can live, take back our country blah blah blah. I almost rear ended her before I realized what a nightmare it would be if I actually hit her.

174 RebTex  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 6:06:50pm

I just heard a report on Fox.
A man posted an "anti-moslim" post on an arabic website.
He & his family were KILLED friday.
The RoP?!

175 Spiny Norman  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 6:09:41pm

#169 pookleblinky

Belgium!

Now just a gol-darned minute! We don' tolerate that kinda language 'round here!

176 justdanny  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 6:09:50pm

... pretty please ...? with a flurry of resonant 64ths on top ...?

177 Catttt  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 6:17:03pm

88 Thom

Yes! I wholeheartedly agree with you.

178 davic  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 6:17:04pm

Fortunately hear in the US we still have a 1st amendment. I am sure in the UK after they pass their law making it criminal to even question the ROP, this site, as well as many other will be shut down and the hosters and readers sent to reeducation. Britain is lost.

179 montanapatriot  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 6:17:47pm

So he thinks we're sophomoric, huh? Well, I'd rather hang around with we sophomores than with the likes of the pretentious loonies I had to work for and be with in California for 30 years. For 20 years it was "You Don't What's Going on Here, Do You, Mr. Jones?" Now it's just out and out Pee-Cee.

180 Geepers  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 6:21:03pm

Spiny Norman, Jinx.

181 justdanny  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 6:27:22pm

...ok the everything but the last letter before the @ and nothing after the @ ...?

I recently told a Nashville Cat what a badass player you are. I did, I swear.

...

182 eddiebear  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 6:28:57pm

Maybe we now know who was launching that DOS attack last week

183 Spiny Norman  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 6:32:59pm

Geepers, that's what I get for trying to be clever and put it in Red State lingo.

184 Barbara Skolaut  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 6:38:12pm
This is one of the most disgusting things I have seen in times when everyone should be living together and promoting peace.

Doesn't get out much, does he?

Loser.

185 satan sidekick  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 6:56:01pm

I wonder if Free Republic got an email from Mohammed? They ragged (pun intended) about it too.

Mohammed - a popular name in UK

186 RayH  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 6:56:31pm

Marine Momma
I'm not offended in the least that you use that term. I used it myself when I was in the navy. I just don't want to see you catch too much flak over it.

Thom
I remember that, it happend here in Phoenix. There was a multi-faith vigil for the poor guy both after he was shot and on the anniversary of his death.

Can't post anymore, have to work sometime.

187 templar  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 6:59:24pm

A little off topic, but credit to the guy at our university's liberal rag for being the lone voice of sanity.
--------------
Reconstruction Deconstructed:

Last week, a run-on sentence and a severely mixed metaphor followed by a cascade of dangling participles led to the tragic collapse of this column, afflicting dozens with eye strain and a widespread sense of confusion.

But today, U.N. Under-Secretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs and Emergency Relief Coordinator Jan Egbeater announced that the United Nations has developed a four-point plan for responding to this crisis. This plan, entitled "Preparation for Assistance in Emergency Column Help" (Preparation-AECH), upon proper application, will decrease readers' irritation and provide soothing relief to the Opinion page's affected region. Preparation-AECH comprises the following:

• Diplomatic representatives from countries wishing to assist in applying Preparation-AECH will meet with U.N. officials at a special conference in Vienna, where the representatives will be asked to draw up a statement of intent, indicating that they will consider the possibility of holding a symposium on the potential use of fact-finding missions to examine the implications of organizing a summit at which the collected leaders may evaluate the prospect of convening an assembly for the discussion of options inherent in the creation of a temporary group for the organization of talks on the precursory discussions involved in the preparation for the planning of emergency aid efforts. This conference will take place in six months, or upon a date for which all the representatives have no scheduling conflicts. And not on a Sunday, unless "Desperate Housewives" is a repeat.

• Once the initial preparations have been made, the coordination of the aid effort will be headed by an experienced and trusted U.N. official: Benon DaTake, former director of Iraq's Oil-for-Food program. The U.S. government has accused Mr. DaTake of accepting oil as payment from the Saddam Hussein regime -- but such charges are unsubstantiated. "The Americans have undertaken a witch hunt against me," Mr. DaTake has said, "because they can't compete with my low, low prices! Come on down to Crazy Benon's and get some crude for your brood!"

• The United Nations has recently come under criticism for its handling of charges of sexual harassment against senior officials. This criticism is false and unfounded, of course, but we are nevertheless concerned about the organization's image. Thus, former U.N. High-Commissioner for Refugees Ruud Luvvin will head a Health and Occupational Regulations, New Investigations (HOR-NI) unit for the column reconstruction program. "My unit has experience with probing deeply into sensitive areas before they become inflamed," Mr. Luvvin has said, "and will serve as a tool for handling any gaps between regulation and practice that the U.N. needs filled."

• To guarantee the highest standards of integrity and freedom of expression, the U.N. Commission on Human Rights has selected a committee to oversee this column's content until the IDS is prepared to resume full sovereignty. Members of the Content Committee include delegates from China, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Sudan and Syria. The chair of the committee, the honorable delegate from Syria, assures readers that "we will be as fair and honest regarding this column's content as we would in our own newspapers. And besides," the delegate adds, "if anything goes wrong, it's Israel's fault."

Such bold action is not cheap. To ensure that the reconstruction of this column is a lasting success, Mr. Egbeater has issued an appeal for $124 million -- a low estimate, and certainly within the reach of stingy, developed (particularly English-speaking, non-Canadian) countries. The American government may believe it is doing well by sending a new word processor; Australia may think a copy of "Blimey, It's Grammar, Mate!" is enough -- but the world knows differently.

188 Flatlander by the Lake  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 7:00:28pm

Charles' comments in the headings are always so right-on... but most importantly, totally hilarious.

189 hepcat  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 7:03:40pm

doesn't this asswipe realize we in the grand 'ol US are just about to celebrate a national holiday tomorrow - Civil Rights (aka Martin Luther King) day?!

190 Joseph  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 7:04:23pm

A Must-Read Site

The Excessive Kindness Of Islam

Fellow readers, the time has come again to further explore the most beneficient, most gracious and the most merciful faith on this earth. What could I be talking about? Islam of course.

In this article I shall write about how the Muslims have blessed the whole world with their loot, raid, brutal torture, plunderings, inhuman rapes, etc. I will also cite from the Holy Quran and the hadiths which have supported these messengers of the all "merciful" Allah.

As long as the muslims loot and raid the kafirs(non believers of Islam), it is completely justified. Ghazzua is an Arabic word for raid as well as killing and enslaving the kafirs. From this word the term Ghazi is derived which means honourable warrior of Islam who has killed many kafirs.

The distribution of the loot or booty, which includes the men, women and children, is done as prescribed by the well defined regulations stated in the Quran and the hadiths. Four fifths of the loot is to be shared by the barbaric, lecherous invaders who took part in the heinous plunderings while one fifth is reserved for the great Prophet or the Caliph and in their absence to the mullah who is in charge.

Such loots and raids were considered shameful acts in Pre-Islamic Arabia. But Mohammed revealed to his followers that since he was the last prophet for all time to come such raids were now sanctioned by Allah. Thus he legalised these inhuman acts of raid, plunder, loot and rape.

Let us closely examine the pattern that these barbaric invaders followed all over the world. This pattern is written down in the Quran; practised, perfected and prescribed by the prophet in his own life time and closely followed by the Caliphs later. Even in present time, this pattern is followed by all Muslim leaders who aspire for name and fame in this life and houris (beautiful virgin women) hereafter.

191 foreign devil  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 7:06:11pm

#41 J.D.:

I hate it when they give the Jihadis a 'heads up' like that though. Do it and keep quiet about it. You don't want them getting the wind up and moving the training camps or dispersing. Better to just 'play the game' of begging them to stop being bad boys and then WHAMMO!

Know what I mean?

192 Bayou_King  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 7:13:41pm

#143 RealWest

"I personally believe the USA should match dollar for dollar the aid ALL other Muslim nations are donating to the relief effort. And not one penny more (and I am TRULY sorry that so many victims will go without aid, but let's face it, most of the aid and the money are going to the heads of the affected countries, not to the victims themselves anyway). You know, spend less on c-4 and more on food, water, shelter and medical aid. YOU
are the one who should be reported to the authorities."

-------------------------------------------------

and now you understand why i am opposed to foreign aid ....

we're not that far apart, are we . . ..?

193 Ed from Ohio  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 7:14:25pm

why do so many sharks and gators have the shits now

too much indian food

194 Eric Blair  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 7:15:13pm

Now just imagine some sweet old Paki duffer (probably named Mohammad himself) reading the post in question. Here's a selection of choice comments that may have upset this gentleman:

76 "It just barely beat out the name "Turd"."

73 "Its not just the name Mohmmed.. its what goes with it.
Poverty, welfare scrounging, crime, drugs, desolation and dispair, as well as religious fanatacism."

70 "Why not just name your son "vermin" and your daughter "vermina", same thing."

66 "Can't get into naming a child after a child molester. WTF?"

53 "I'll assume it just beat out SlimyPieceOfShit."

49 "Mohammad is a slaver's name. That's it."

33 "Isn't he just adorable? -- his name is "Mohammed", but we call him, "Bomber".
Kootchy-kootchy-koo!"

9 "Oh, excuse me, I have to go take a mohammed."

195 Trippin  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 7:18:46pm

And the award for "Islams greatest enemy" goes to :

FREEDOM OF SPEECH !

Muslims can't stand that there are people who can say stuff like "Islamic terrorist" and not get killed for it. I wonder how "appalled" this journalist is about those who have been dying at the hands of these despotic religious freaks for the last couple of decades.

Sadly for him, the truth will out. It doesn't matter how much lipstick you put on a murderous, extremist pig, it remains.... well, you know the story.

196 transient  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 7:23:15pm

You guys are being a little harsh. The guy sounds pretty moderate to me. After all, he's only calling for censorship. He's not threatening to cut anyone's throat.

/sarc

197 transient  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 7:24:46pm

#192 BK

I think you're idea is fantastic, but I'm feeling generous. I say we match the contributions of Muslim countries 2:1.

...drip...drip...drip...

198 transient  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 7:26:40pm

#197
In fact, I'm feeling so magnanimous that as part of our charity effort I think we should even throw in a few used helicopters for the French.

199 Aisha  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 7:30:07pm

I advise this pious journalist to do as I do, and use LGF as an opportunity for Daw'eh.

Sure, a lot of the dirty kaffir here are most offensive to Allah Ta'ala and OUr Beloved Nabi (SAW), but others have shown an openness to Shari'ah and the Noble Qua'ran.

Aisha is still looking for a pious Muslim to enter into a shar'ee Nikkah with her. Any chance that this person is interested. I too am shocked at the way this site defames Islam!

200 chewydog  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 7:30:27pm

#194 Eric Blair

You really should use sarc tags.
Don't realy give a sh*t about some sweet old pski duffer. Do some research.

201 QueenEsther  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 7:36:50pm

I say, anytime you piss off a Mo ho, you've done a fine day's work, Charles. Good job!

202 insomniac  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 7:50:50pm

#167 reader

Here is proof that we are indeed different. I am assured of this, that no Martin Luther King Jr., nor Abraham Lincoln has ever arisen in the Muslim world. It could never happen, nor will it happen, as long as Islam and Islamic civilization cannot accept the dignity that only freedom can accord and equality can sustain, as surely as it was intended, by God, for all humanity

.......according to Amir Taheri, that “the very concept of human rights was ‘a Judeo-Christian invention’ and inadmissible in Islam. . . . According to Ayatollah Khomeini, one of the Shah’s ‘most despicable sins’ was the fact that Iran was one of the original group of nations that drafted and approved the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.”
Khomeini in Dearborn By Robert Spencer FrontPageMagazine.com Nov 17, 2004

203 chewydog  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 7:59:51pm

#199 Aish-whatever

Sure, a lot of the dirty kaffir here are most offensive to Allah Ta'ala and OUr Beloved Nabi (SAW), but others have shown an openness to Shari'ah and the Noble Qua'ran.

And just who might that be?

204 braindirt  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 8:06:29pm
Mohammad

I think it's interesting that the word "ham" is embedded in the name MoHAMmad, not to mention the word mad. Coincidental factors like these are not coincidental.

205 chewydog  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 8:11:27pm

#204 braindirt

I think it's interesting that the word "ham" is embedded in the name MoHAMmad, not to mention the word mad. Coincidental factors like these are not coincidental.

Or just plain MO, like in the three stooges character. He was kind of the boss of that crew. Made the rules regardless.

206 Hari Seldon  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 8:18:34pm

hey everybody sorta OT but not really:

I am a dabbaling writer (ie i have ideas but have not finnisehd a book or anything) and i am thinking of writing a sorta sci fi sorta hisotrical (but in the future) fiction about a Dhimmi london. and so i figure i should come to you guys with my questions. The first is what should i call london? afterall muslims have a tendency to rename cities (ie constnatinople is istanbul) so what would the name of london be? also any plot ideas are greatly welcome right now my idea is vaguely its two or 3 generations later the young man (I figure 18 since that is about my age) who is a dhimmi and whos father (and grandfather if its 3rd) are...not the best dhimmis and have taught him and his siblings western history and religion. this is the most i have thought up...so LGFers give me ideas!

207 hornet  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 8:21:25pm

Have to watch what I say here, this guy from London may be an Arsenal supporter. The most freedom of thought and speech I have ever had in my has been since starting to post comment on LGF, and if you (journalist from London) thiink you can use scare tactics against Charles or any one else here at LGF, you are truly insane sir. You could well learn the truth about the death cult you call ROP by reading LGF every day. We believe in freedom of thought, expression, and speech, NOT/NOT intimidation, threats, and lies that are the underpinnings of Islam.

208 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 8:26:39pm
209 Lunatic John  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 8:27:22pm

#206

London's new (and likely upcoming) name:

New Tehran

LJ

Remember-All LLL are Lunatics, but not all Lunatics are LLL.

210 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 8:32:28pm
211 Merovign  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 8:36:56pm

#105 Marine Momma

I object! After all, what did a rag ever do to you! Rags can be handy for cleaning, scrubbing, stuffing into intake manifolds to keep dirt out, etc.

With regard to the derogatory name site:

Bee Keepers for Burka'd women is too cool for school.

Camel Cowboy isn't even really derogatory. Kinda like a Jihadi John Wayne.

Ewoks and Jawas.... heh...

Habibi meaning "beloved" and all, kind of like "our beloved throat-slitting, bombing, suicidal friends across the sea..."

Firecracker is not as good as splodeydope, but has the word "cracker" in it, which adds a little nice multiculturalism the all the racial slurring. That and the fire-paranoia in the Quran.

Roach-Rancher - if that thing about not being allowed to kill roaches is true, all I can say is pray for Quran 2.0.

Rock-Chucker (which is more Palestinian than general) - but they DO have guns, so why do they throw rocks? So they can complain to the press that they were shot for just throwing a few pebbles!

Sandy Crockett - see Camel Cowboy above, but now think Crockett from Miami Vice - a description for the young sons of Arabian leaders who come to the west to be decadent?

Sun Goblin is definitely derogatory, but has poetic possibilities given some work...

Farq - I didn't know that that meant Chicken and was used to describe light-skinned or "white" people by darker Arabs... I'll remember that.

Now, a "true" westerner might never use some of the phrases from the list, but would laugh while reading it.

The two main groups that don't are the "hypersensitive" westerners who have made a lifestyle out of being publicly offended so that they can gain the sympathy of others, and the Mohammedans who deeply believe that God (Allah) commands them to stamp out all criticism of their faith.

The ability to laugh at yourself. Without it, when you look at the world you see nothing but hate. Eventually you adapt to your surroundings. And you become like this turd: "Shut down your hugely popular website, or I'll tell... someone who cares?"

Pathetique.

212 Hari Seldon  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 8:41:15pm

looool @ song and dance man....ya i know

oh and i had westminster abbey as the mosque..but i had its name during the books time to be the "omar barki mosque".

should be fun...and new terhan sounds good, does anyone know how to say new in arabic? also what is their call to prayer? liek what are the words?

213 braindirt  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 8:42:18pm

#205 chewydog
I'm going to have to change my bio site commentary. It's getting embarrassing. I'm no imblecile... not me! Or is it embesile? Better ask Larry...

214 Sandy P  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 8:43:10pm

Mr. Journalist doesn't realize first we must:

1. Define "peace" - Islamic or Western?

He also doesn't realize:

2. That's what we're "discussing" now in the ME.

--

Disgusting?

We can link to a few heads being sawed off w/the shouts of Allen Akbar.

Those are disturbing.

Americans are paying attention, Mr. UK journalist, tho you might not think so.

Start promoting peace from your end, call out your crazies and hand them over.

215 Rayra[deleted]  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 8:45:34pm
216 Sandy P  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 8:45:48pm

How about this?

If Mr. Journalist could get the BBC to shut down....

or at least stop taxing citizens for the crap they spew.

217 Rayra[deleted]  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 8:48:25pm
218 Trippin  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 8:49:04pm

I wonder how many Islamic extremist web sites this journalist has emailed demanding an apology, and telling them to "shut it down"? My guess is ZERO. In fact, if he ever wishes to do so, LGF would be a good place to start since there are literally dozens of examples of such web sites in the archives. Perhaps Muslim web sites calling on people to join in the orgy of Islamic violence is part of that elusive "Muslim peace process"?

I think there are Muslims who genuinely want peace, but I just don't buy the notion that they constitute the majority. I also think that many Muslims use the word "peace" as a substitute for "freedom to kill as we want without interference".

Until Muslims stop blowing up school buses, cutting off people's heads and killing Christians families in New Jersey, Muslims will just have to live with the fact that most people think of them as blood-thirsty savages.

219 Rayra[deleted]  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 8:50:57pm
220 Rayra[deleted]  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 8:52:27pm
221 Rayra[deleted]  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 8:53:28pm
222 Rayra[deleted]  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 8:55:09pm
223 Trippin  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 8:55:39pm

#217 Rayra

I agree with you on this. Attacking someone's motives, methods and ideologies are perfectly acceptable.

The term "[bigoted word]" however is just a racial slur.

224 Rayra[deleted]  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 8:57:29pm
225 Rayra[deleted]  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 9:00:41pm
226 Rayra[deleted]  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 9:01:54pm
227 Lazarus  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 9:02:27pm

"All your blog are belong to us."

228 rightasrain  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 9:08:25pm

Just adding my two cents about the '[bigoted word]' comments.

I agree with those who object to the use of this word.

There's plenty of real things to fault in Islam. This slur should be axed.

229 Victor  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 9:15:48pm

#111 Bayou_King  1/16/2005 07:12PM PST...

"is it possible that the (fanatic) muslim fascination with sex with young boys comes from a repressed anger and a transferred desire to strike back at the imams who crush their egos and keep them down?"

Islam's sick dynamic is Dominance--Submission. Submit to what? In theory, Allah, but in actual practice to the most ruthless DOMINATOR. But for Arab Muslims, Submission is SHAMEFUL, while Dominance is HONORABLE. Submission is for cowards, women, and dogs -- a man must DOMINATE OR DIE. There can never be an Arab Moslem society of equals, there can only be those who submit, and those who dominate the submissives by brute force -- everyone must SUBMIT OR DIE -- DOMINATE OR DIE -- dominate your wife, dominate your tribe, dominate your friends, your enemies, your neighbors -- it never ends, and anyone who resists must be destroyed. The savage law of the jungle. Islam is pathological.

There will be no peace until it's gone.

(Listen! -- can you hear that old Blue Oyster Cult song?)

Dominance! Submission
Dominance! Sub-mission
Dominance! Sub-mission
Dominance! Submission
Dominance! Sub-mission
Dominance! Sub-mission Sub-mission
Dominance! Sub- submission sub- sub-
Dominance! Submission submission
Dominance! Submission submission submission
Dominance! Sub- submission submission
Dominance! Submission submission submission
Dominance! Sub- submission sub- sub- submission
Dominance! Submission submission!
Dominance! Submission!

230 rightasrain  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 9:31:13pm

#229 Victor

But for Arab Muslims, Submission is SHAMEFUL, while Dominance is HONORABLE. Submission is for cowards, women, and dogs -- a man must DOMINATE OR DIE.

Every little Arab Muslim village or tribal area has its pecking order of dominant men, too.

It's survival of the fittest (ie, barbaric.)

The Arab world is enslaved by this.

231 braindirt  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 9:33:20pm

#223 rayra

[bigoted word]s... racial slurs

They hide suicide bombs in those "racial slurs". Are you on the rag yourself?

232 FlyingTigress  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 9:38:09pm
I am a journalist from the UK. A MUSLIM in the UK

We fart in your general direction you son of a silly person!

/channeling John Cleese

233 Miggie  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 10:03:05pm

Man, if there is anyone who should not be displeased, much less appalled, over something he reads is a MUSLIM journalist from the UK. I mean, look at everything they are entitled to, just because of their superiority as Muslims.

The Muslims, acting as if they were already the conquerers of the British, are already starting their bullshit with us.

Despicable people!

234 Miggie  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 10:03:57pm

Man, if there is anyone who should not be displeased, much less appalled, over something he reads is a MUSLIM journalist from the UK. I mean, look at everything they are entitled to, just because of their superiority as Muslims.

The Muslims, acting as if they were already the conquerers of the British, are already starting their bullshit with us.

Despicable people!

235 rightasrain  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 10:14:15pm

#234 Miggie

Actually, I get the impression that the journalist is someone who hasn't been forced to convert to Islam yet.

His time will come, though...

236 Ed from Ohio  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 10:33:22pm

Rayra


what are you ... some kind of hypersensitive left wing hippy

237 Rose  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 11:27:59pm

I wonder , was he appalled by the brutal murder of C.A.R.E worker Margaret Hassan who was found dead in Fallujah, tortured disemboweled and decapitated- someone who was a friend to Muslims and married to an Iraqi and had done so much for the Iraqi people. None of this reported in the MSM-what are these people? do they truly want to live in system that allows them no rights? I am glad I am not just starting out with a young family-Dear sweet Jesu- I allways thought the best of people and tried to see the good in all faiths-but that little fairy tale went the way of Peter Rabbit and Noddy

238 Cornish Intifada  Sun, Jan 16, 2005 11:44:57pm

Mr Muslim from London - do you know that in the eyes of Welsh and Cornish people - YOU are an OCCUPIER, LAND THIEF AND SETTLER? England was once our land and we were forced off it by invading English in a 500 year war and genocide - now our fight is with you and all who have been UNINVITED IN and built their homes over the graves of dead celts. By remaining in England YOU are presenting yourself as a LEGITIMATE TARGET for resistance. You never know....bombing court houses and 2nd homes might not cut it.....we might have to take a leaf out of the Palestinians handbook in order to get noticed.....think about that. I mix in separatist circles I know a few people.....

239 andrew2  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 12:14:26am

Journalist Moslem from Londonstan,

Without knowing one thing about you, I am going to make the following predictions about you:

A) You are the product of the UK's self loathing immigration system.

B) You are originally a Third worlder (maintaining a Third World mentality) who is working as a journalist directly as a result of affairmative action or the British equavalent.

C) You are first and foremost a Moslem who wishes the implimentation of Sharia law in the UK and the rest of the non-Moslem nations of the world.

D) You do not care a bit about anything but Islam and its mandates.

E) You have several children who you confidently expect to live in the new Islamic nation of Britain, part of the Eurabian Union.

F) You consider any discussion about Islam to be "Islamophobic".

G) You hate Israel but call it Anti-Zionism.

You can not assume that the intolerance meted out daily by Moslems will not eventually be met with fury as it becomes increasingly evident that Moslems are simply unsuitable in significant numbers in any non-Moslem society.

So post that in your rag you drecksack.

240 AW  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 1:03:23am
I will be passing on details of your website to authorities concerned. Unless you apologize and shut it down.


_____________

In the interest of promoting peace and living together, and out of fear that the authorities concerned may haul me away to a shari’a re-education camp, I announce that I will hereby be shutting down LGF as of this very moment.

Close but no cigar, Charles. You also have to apologize.

241 'sugarcoat'  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 1:55:12am

#68 RebTex

No lie, in highschool, my sister was asked to do a report on euthanasia, and wrote a paper on teenagers in China.

She was a cheerleader.

242 maumau  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 2:06:55am

Rayra

You are obviously one of those fools who believe the First Amendment is null and void when people's feelings get hurt by so-called racial ephithets. Either that or you're a [bigoted word]...

243 andrew2  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 2:26:57am

# 242 maumau

I suggest you click on Rayra's green football to learn a little bit about him.

244 jetziger  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 2:27:13am

Close down, Charles! The PC thought police are on the prowl. Four legs good, two legs bad! I'm scared...

Only Christianity, Israel and America are fair game, don't you know?

245 jetziger  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 2:29:51am

LISTEN UP, FOLKS - ONE THE SUBJECT OF PC THOUGHT POLICE - THIS REALLY HAPPENED LAST YEAR.

When the IAF took out Sheikh Yassin, my sis went onto the BBC website and posted remarks to the effect of he deserved it for being terrorist scum, long live Israel, etc.

Almost immediately BOTH her e-mail addresses had been mysteriously deactivated, AND her mobile phone!

F*ckin' creepy...

...support Israel and you are a SUSPECT.

246 Pennies for Patriots  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 2:48:58am

Incoming Fatwa...

"I will be passing on details of your website to authorities concerned. Unless you apologize and shut it down."


I hardly think he is talking about the local bobbies.
More than likely he is speaking of his local mujahadine franchise.


A large, snarling, black dog is a good start in the home defense department. Moslems as a rule shun dogs as pets, and are immediately at a disadvantage when confronted by them.

247 hector  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 3:26:35am

Hope you told the muslim FREAK to piss off?

248 Thom  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 3:27:50am

#242 maumau

For the zillionth time, this isn't about the 1st amendment.

#236 Ed from Ohio

Hardly. He is, like many of us, concerned about LGF's reputation.

249 RickZ  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 3:50:14am

While the terms '[bigoted word]' and '[bigoted word]' may be emotionally charged, they are not racist; although I do agree that '[bigoted word]' lassos in others who are not muslim, tarring them falsely with the opprobrium we seek to hurl islam's way. Is not the word 'infidel', when used by a muslim, with all its connotations and nuances, just as bigoted? I take pride in being an infidel; let the [bigoted word]s take pride in their [bigoted word]dom. There are times when bandying insults about is appropriate, especially when it hurts the feelings of the followers of Ol' Mo the Pedophile. Hurt feelings beat the shit out of being beheaded. Islam needs a thicker skin, and if my insults can aid them in their journey to denser dermal layering, so much the better.

250 mich-again  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 3:55:00am

I doubt the writer is actually a paid journalist based on the rampant poor grammar, unless he writes for a non-English publication. I'm guessing that this writer calling himself a journalist is akin to a waitress in LA who refers to herself as an actress.

But sometimes the insults do go over the top and I think we need to tone things down and stick with logical arguments instead of base ethnic insults. Its not about being intimidated, its just that the insults and rhetoric may be used as fuel by the radical Muslims trying to drum up support for terror attacks against US forces abroad. The last thing that our soldiers in harm's way need is us to fan the flames of hatred toward America.

251 thepoguemahone  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 4:18:22am

See the problem with this whole internet thingy is that people like Charles and his lizardoid minions are here expressing concern over the islamization of Western Europe - not its use to say slice the heads off innocent civillians for broadcast

/sarcasm

252 Apathy Curve  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 4:33:49am

Hey there, "British Muslim journalist." [wave] If it makes you feel any better, I didn't (and won't) give one dime to the international tsunami scam...er, I mean, "relief effort." My government already gave billions of dollars of my tax money, but that wasn't enough, was it? "More, more, more. And by the way, get out."

Those unappreciative bastards in Indonesia can rot, for all I care. I've traveled all over the Pacific Rim and Indonesian regions, and "unimpressed" would be the most kind opinion I could give about the entire shooting match. They should have learned how to build more effective sea walls. Maybe next time, huh?

Hey, on the bright side, it's that many less Muslims we'll eventually have to fight. See? Silver lining.

253 SlothB77  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 4:35:28am
But sometimes the insults do go over the top and I think we need to tone things down and stick with logical arguments instead of base ethnic insults.

Losing a battle like this is worse than not fighting at all. It hurts us. It is better to fight battles you can win, through facts and reason, and not be suckered into accepting false premises and childish name-calling.


The last thing that our soldiers in harm's way need is us to fan the flames of hatred toward America.

At this point, it may be advantageous. The more we succeed, the more the flames are fanned, the more kookier and crazier they get and the more followers they lose. But, we must first succeed through facts and reason - not through kookery.

254 peggie  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 5:27:27am

the ole' idea of what goes around comes around. to every action there is a reaction. how can you not have a reaction to some dimwit passing themselves off as a religious leader. prime example is the thread that follows this. when you go around in a circle too much, you loose track of what started this. you can't negotiate with any group who's core philosophy is the destruction or sujugation of you. you can't negotiate in a weaken state - the rats always desert the ship if they think that it's going down.

255 Crusader  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 5:42:30am

When I saw the part about "Mohammed entering top boys...", well, lets just say that we always knew that old Mo was a pedophile and leave it at that.

256 steve miller  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 5:47:55am

This must be a very weak religion that this journalist whines about, if it needs such fearsome attempts to shut down free speech.

Jews and Christians have survived years of denigration (remember Madonna of the F*s, or the P*s Christ?). A lot of huffery and puffery - and then everyone pretty much moves along.

Say something about the pedophile prophet, and you get threatened with death.

/disclaimer - yes, it's not black and white like that, but *really*, do you think *most* Jews/Christians spend their days worrying about insults to Moses/Jesus?

/disclaimer2 - I'm leaving out other religions and even non-religionists for the sake of a cleaner argument. But again, I don't see the AAA up in arms much just because someone says "There are no atheists in foxholes."

257 el presidente'  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 5:49:59am

Hey, Mister Muslim Journalist,

Let me invite you to Christianity, if you have any journalistic skills at all, you well see why so many people in the US are sick and tired of the Islamic radicals and your faith as a whole.

You see here in the US, our foundations are in the Juda-Christian religion, where we worship life and true peace.

In contrast your religion, worships jihad and death. The two, simply will not co-exist. You worship a false phophet that raised in stature because he raped and murdered people. We worship Jesus and Moses that saved people. The two religions are incompatible.

I will pray for you, anyhow, I'm a Christian and that's what I do. May you find peace, when your eyes are opened and you reject the faith that promotes suicide bombings, beheadings and the killing of innocent people.

258 kansas  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 6:00:39am

Better be careful here. These ROP folks might find out who you are and slit your throat. Why is it that Jesus is not a popular name with evangelicals?

259 RickZ  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 6:06:02am

# 258 kansas:

Why is it that Jesus is not a popular name with evangelicals?

'Hay-zus' is a popular hispanic male name. Just like 'An-hel'.

260 Goodbye_natalie  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 6:44:36am

Mo'pedophile...we can now add that to the list of names. Personally, I think that is a much softer name than Mo'hammed and sounds somewhat feminine. Perhaps his twin sister?

Heywood Ublome Mohammed? It has a nice ring to it, don't you think? I'll use it for my first born...nyet.

261 realwest  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 7:29:23am

Charles - did the Muslim journalist posting from UK happen to mention his name or e-mail address? I only ask because I received an e-mail from someone named Ard Nian (I'll not post his e-mail addy in case it wasn't him) that would perhaps alarm someone. He quoted my post #143 verbatim (just after some "people" out here decided "[bigoted word]" is an appropriate way to refer to these murdering psychopaths).
I received his e-mail at 03:14 am NYC time .
Of course, being truly intimidated, didn't get around to answering him until about 11:45 AM NYC time.
Just curious if it's the same dude or if I've picked up a stalker of my own!

262 Marine Momma  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 7:30:39am

rayra...oh dear, my hopes of being friends with you just isn't going to happen. my use of the word [bigoted word] is not new for many people and if you're offended, then join the club for those offended by words. i'm offended when i read posts that have f this and f that all over the place. you made a comment about my previous posts on islam that i was spouting racial slurs. racial, i don't think so though i know you'll deeply disagree. i see islam as an organization that breeds terrorism and has tons of blind people following that path. there is no religion in this other than hate, control, and muder. this organization would love to take over the world and overseas it's doing a good job at it. there are alot of our kids over there trying to hold the line back so they won't come here. i'm so very proud of each one, as i'm sure you are too. and like you, i have seen kids die, maybe not up close and personal, but i've seen the death notices in my email and have spent time with grieving families. i resent each one of the terrorists. and like someone else said either on this thread or the next one, those terrorists do put bombs in their head coverings.
for some reason you have decided to come up against me, irregardless of the first amendment, and try to bully me. my son gets out of the corp. this spring so my nic will probably change then, but until he gets out it will stay the same and i will continue to call them [bigoted word]s. just remember that while you are offended by that word, i am just as offended at some of your words.

263 Trippin  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 7:54:11am

I wonder what people like the pro-US Iraqi bloggers at "Iraq the model" think when they see people refer to their people (or their family members and friends) as "[bigoted word]s". As tough as it may be to believe this, some Muslims ARE pro-American.

264 piglet  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 8:22:22am

Is he threating to drag LGF into QB7?

265 Rayra[deleted]  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 8:35:48am
266 Rayra[deleted]  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 8:40:09am
267 Rayra[deleted]  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 8:44:12am
268 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 8:47:28am

I think I may have used the term 'schmatta' (Yiddish-rag) head once or twice, but I generally prefer terms like Islamonazi, jihadi murderers-my vote would also be for descriptive and accurate. And I'm not offended by "swear" words used to describe said fucking jihadi Islamonazis.

269 Rayra[deleted]  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 8:48:14am
270 nagasaki_hata  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 8:49:22am

Yeah, well, mohammedan journalist from the UK, guess we are all appalled about something.
Lately, mine has has the appallingly poor quality of paper used for the koran --- it's far too rough for my tender bottom when I use it for toliet paper.
EXTRA! EXTRA! We know Islam is evil incarnate and our trigger fingers are getting a tad itchy.

271 Rayra[deleted]  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 8:54:21am
272 Rufus Lee King  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 8:56:52am

Will Prince Harry be one of the presiding authorities on these articles of indignity?

273 nagasaki_hata  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 8:56:54am

#268 WriterMom

I think I may have used the term 'schmatta' (Yiddish-rag) head

'smegma-head' works, too ;)

274 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 9:18:05am

#258 Kansas

It seems like there are lots of Christian names, other than Jesus that are given to honour Christian faith-like Christian, Christine, Mary, or even Faith, or Charity..those kind of names.

(laughing at myself, the suburban Jew commenting on Christian names like I'm some expert).

I actually just learned recently about Catholics having to have a saint's name. I had no idea about that. I noticed in some part of my brain that there were lots of Mary Elizabeths, Mary Annes, Anne-Marie's etc... but I never knew that Catholics gave their children a saint's name. Another thing that I learned recently is about the difference in crosses-with the ornamental design, plain, etc...Needless to say-it's not the kind of thing I ever learned in Hebrew school, so I'm glad when I pick up bits and pieces here and there.

275 Geepers  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 9:42:43am

Yeah, "[bigoted word]" the the ultimate vile epithet.

"Psychotic Joooooooo killing Nazi scum" is appropriate for any occasion.

And doesn't harm LGF's reputation.

276 Lawrence Schmerel  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 9:55:18am

I can't imagine what upset this nice British Journalist e-mailer.

It must have been #7 Thom at 1/5/2005 03:19PM PST who said

"One assumes that it isn't Britons who are naming their children after this psychotic pedophile?"

Assumptions like that tend to irritate more rational thinkers.

Why does Thom assume that the native Britons are not naming their children after Mohammed, the psychotic pedophile?

277 Thom  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 10:12:26am

#276 Lawrence Schmerel

Oh wow. How can you lay so much guilt at my feet?

I can't take it anymore!

</runnning away in vague zig zags, gibbering mindlessly>

#275 Geepers

Touché.

278 zulubaby  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 10:16:28am

I hate the term "[bigoted word]", I hate the term "[bigoted word]". I find both those slurs offensive and think that one can make one's argument just as well without them. Arabs, Muslims -- those work fine for me.

279 zulubaby  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 10:18:54am

Geepers, you telling me that "[bigoted word]" and "[bigoted word]" don't harm LGF's reputation?

280 ChaosBF  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 11:11:39am

So, um, if he's a journalist, why can't he write worth a damn?

281 Geepers  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 11:18:11am

zulubaby (#278),

I find both those slurs offensive ...

Yeah I do too.

And that's the whole point. Isn't it?

What is an insult if it isn't offensive?

That's why calling anyone a Nazi is pointless anymore. It's been debased to the point of worthlessness.

I got a buddy, an ex Army MP, when he's around his friends and he uses the term [bigoted word], it's got a specific meaning to them.

I believe the current GI slang is "Hadji". Last year "Hadji" was a character from the animated cartoon Dr. Quest. Five years from now people on LGF will be complaining that posters are using "Hadji" as a slur that degrades LGF.

And the ironic thing? Dr. Quest's Hadji Singh was a Sikh.

Which I’m sure I’ll point out in a snarky way to some future Lizardoid.

282 nagasaki_hata  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 11:26:53am

'Mohammedan'

acceptable hereabouts?

283 Geepers  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 11:37:32am

nagasaki_hata (#282),

Mohammedan goes back a long way.

Where ya from?

And what the hell does nagasaki_hata mean? ;-)

284 steve miller  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 11:49:42am

In a nutshell, using slurs to describe Mohammedans will simply drive off any moderates. Those who are convinced that all Mohammedans are evil will simply adopt this language as proof; those who are convinced that there is no evil in Islamofacism will avoid visiting LGF because of the rudeness and classlessness of posters.

What is gained by using slurs? A feeling of superiority?

285 Marine Momma  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 12:13:23pm

o.k., since i'm the one who started this i'm going to hopefully finish it. i have talked with charles and he has asked me not to use [bigoted word]. so, as of now i won't. i am not the holier than thou moron that rayra believes i am, so pls forgive me for any offense i have caused. my son is a marine who had spent 7 long months trying to stay alive in a town where 'some muslims' wanted to kill him. for that i despise them and will continue to despise any and all people who want to kill each and every non-muslim. nuff said.

286 braindirt  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 12:33:50pm

#285
My apologies go out, as well. I can be a jerk sometimes.

287 zulubaby  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 12:55:46pm

Geepers, except that there is such a thing as a Nazi. Or at least there used to be, now there are neo-Nazis. "[bigoted word]" is a racial slur. I find racial slurs especially offensive. I'm typing "[bigoted word]" but I assure you the word would never actually come out of my mouth.

288 NuclearTinkerbell  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 1:42:49pm

#281 Geepers

I believe the current GI slang is "Hadji".

Indeed, Hadji is the current derogatory term to use when 'in the sandbox'.

'[bigoted word]', 'sand-fly', and 'camel jockey' are just... so Gulf 1.

Why use derogatory terms when you could substitute an equally accurate (and therefore, ugly) combination of words in its stead? Next time, instead of referring to a Mohammed as a 'carpet pilot', try using a term like, 'murderous highjacking terrorist'. The truth hurts more.

289 Goodbye_natalie  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 2:17:11pm

This argument about using the word "[bigoted word]s" from above reminds me of using the "N" word which has become a joke in itself. Somehow that has become much worse than the rest of the vile crap I've read on every board - this one included. While that doesn't come out of my mouth, I hardly think that worse then much of what I've seen referred to on this board and nobody seems too worried about that.

If I could be so bold, I have noticed a small clique of regular posters here who treat the board as if shareholders and have decided for the rest of us what is right and what is wrong. I believe the word would best be described as pious.

So before anyone scolds Marine Momma too awful much, you might want to reevaluate what you post first because if you're going to hold everyone to your standard, then I see some real, blatant hypocrisy posted above from previous comments I've read.

290 Thom  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 2:47:33pm

#289 Goodbye_natalie

If I could be so bold, I have noticed a small clique of regular posters here who treat the board as if shareholders and have decided for the rest of us what is right and what is wrong.

Expressing an opinion is not "deciding" for you.

However, the point is moot since Charles has decided for his blog.

291 Geepers  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 3:05:21pm

Goodbye_natalie,

I don't disagree with you.

I know what your intent is.

But

ACK!

I believe the word would best be described as pious.

Can't. control. pendatic. mode.

:-)

292 nagasaki_hata  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 3:48:01pm

#283 Geepers

Yes, it is an ancient name for an ancient enemy. There are others, but this one works for me.

nagasaki hata is THE ultimate fighting kite. It's from Japan and was first made when the Dutch started trading there way back when. The string was ground glass on a portion of it to cut the lines or other kites and the kite itself is amazingly agile in the air. A delight to fly and fun to "kill" other kites with. Been flying them for nearly thirty years (wow, that long?). Might try Goggle and see some beautiful designs.

I currently live in Blue State Hawaii, sigh. Miss the Rocky Mountains, sometimes. But I'm getting soft about the cold, I must admit.

293 nagasaki_hata  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 3:54:16pm
Might try Goggle and see some beautiful designs.

Self-quoting here. Yeah and using Google might be a good move, too :)

294 piglet  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 4:02:21pm
I believe the current GI slang is "Hadji". Last year "Hadji" was a character from the animated cartoon Dr. Quest. Five years from now people on LGF will be complaining that posters are using "Hadji" as a slur that degrades LGF.

And the ironic thing? Dr. Quest's Hadji Singh was a Sikh.

And wtf was Dr. quest's major malfunction? He and his "long time companion, Race" are spending millions of dollars of tax payers money trying to develope a laser canon that does about the same thing as a small cannon fron WW1 but at 10,000 times the cost,, and meanwhile he never asks Hadji how it is he can levitate stuff with his mind? Talk about western colonialism and arrogance.

295 NuclearTinkerbell  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 4:18:17pm

#294 piglet
Ever notice how Johnny looked more like Race than Dr. Quest? Where was Mrs. Quest? Did Johnny have two daddies? I want answers!

296 maumau  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 5:04:30pm

Rayra


You panty-wearing politically correct people amaze me. These [bigoted word]s fly airplanes into the Pentagon, the WTC, and take a passenger filled airplane into a field in Pennsylvania, and you are afraid we are going to offend them and somehow make them commit worse acts by calling them [bigoted word]s. Is that what you are saying here? Think maybe they might do something really atrocious - like behead innocent contractors or torture and kill aid workers? Oh, right they did that. What about walking into a mess tent and blowing themselves up? What about killing authors on the street in the Netherlands or an entire family in NJ? The time has come to do or die, and you are worried about offending the enemy? You're really going to be upset when you Google "Mecca Card."

297 Rayra[deleted]  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 5:09:26pm
298 Thom  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 5:10:40pm

#296 maumau

Is that what you are saying here?

NO.

If you'd like to know what Rayra (et al) is saying here, read his goddamned posts.

But careful reading doesn't appear to be your strong point, or else you would have noticed this post.

299 Thom  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 5:11:15pm

#297 Rayra

Where did this reading-impaired dimwit come from?!

300 Rayra[deleted]  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 5:13:37pm
301 maumau  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 5:20:08pm

Rayra and Thom

Change your pads and move on.

You are a couple of useful idiots in every sense of the word.

302 maumau  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 5:21:22pm

Rayra
Up the ante? what are you going to do, call me mean names on the internet?

303 Thom  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 5:22:19pm

#301 maumau

Coming from a useless idiot, that really hurt.

</eye roll>

304 maumau  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 5:23:23pm

Oh no, not the rolling eyes. You remind me of the comic book guy on the Simpsons...or Ned Flanders.

305 Rayra[deleted]  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 5:26:33pm
306 Rayra[deleted]  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 5:30:10pm
307 Thom  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 5:30:46pm

#305 Rayra

I'll never understand people that think a disagreement by another automatically means that person holds a polar-opposite viewpoint.

People like that are baffling.

Anyhoo, I have to go change my pad. Catch ya later.

;)

308 Rayra[deleted]  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 5:31:36pm
309 Rayra[deleted]  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 5:34:00pm
310 piglet  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 6:20:56pm

what we really need on lgf is too stop using terms refering to female body parts or being a woman as put downs for men who lack courage. also using implications of homosexuality as put downs. We have many brave women and gays in the military.


on topic for a change, England's libal law used to be the reverse of that in the US.

in america, the accuser needed to prove that the comment was false, malicious and damaging.

in england the defendant had to prove it was not.

311 Goodbye_natalie  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 6:41:49pm

Hey Thom,

When you start limiting what people can say (as long as it isn't threatening), then I guarantee you the days of a blog will soon be over with. When it's only permissable to agree with a select few and everything else is out of bounds unless it's on their terms, then I think you've defeated the purpose of a comment's board. People will soon move on.

I welcome people with differing beliefs. If everyone thought like you and I did, the world would become quite boring. I was simply showing the hypocrisy of criticizing someone for using "descriptors" that one might find offensive when they don't hold themselves to that same high standard. I've seen Christ himself insulted on this board. Is Charles going to make that off limits too? Seems to me that's a lot more egregious than the word [bigoted word].

And geepers #291, I read that again and though I could have worded it a little better, I can't find anything terribly wrong. The brain has been disengaged from studying for the MCAT at an old age so it's probable. So from one pedantic fool to another, what am I missing?

312 Rayra[deleted]  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 7:44:03pm
313 the classical liberal  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 8:02:25pm

Wow, I should have returned sooner.

Again ... I have no love for Islam. I think the greatest threat to my life and my family comes from islamo-fascists and I think that this ideology must be faced head-on. We cannot win solely by military means. Representational government, free-markets and free-minds must take root in the Islamic world else we will be fighting a war for generations to come.

The pigs who killed the Coptic family in Jersey City need to found; those who condone behavior such as this, as well as van Gogh's murder must be brought to light, ridiculed and hopefully sent packing.

That said how do we convince people that islamo-fascists are deadly serious people who we should take deadly seriously. Calling them names and mocking them is not useful. Attacking their ideas are. I'm not a kumbaya type person with no love for multi-culturalism. I'm an Objectivist leaning, free-market laissez-faire libertarian type guy. Sharia law just ain't my thing.

Here's what I object to: calling people names like "[bigoted word]." It makes you sound ignorant and racist and is fodder for looney-left and islamo-fascist apologists. Not only that but some [bigoted word]s are not Muslim, like Sikhs, and they've been among the first attacked and slaughtered by islamo-fascists.

Another thing is focusing on Mohammed's pedophilia. 7th C Arabia had cultural mores that pre-existed Mohammed. Swamp Women wrote to my statement that in 19th C America girls married early "And the lifespan then was how long, exactly?"

About the same, if not longer, than the lifespan in 7th C Arabia. My point exactly. Cultural norms change. When my parents were born pre-marital sex was rare and hidden. Now, for better of worse, we accept the fact that our un-married college age children are sexually active.

cba wrote that "Mohammed's pedophilia may be "non-essential," but it still was pedophilia." True, but was Mohammed's action outside the norm of his time? Dueling isn't legal anymore. Until recently people thought that one's bloodline was important. Now a day if you say that you are descended from Charlemagne few people would care. "That and a dollar will buy you a cup of coffee."

elandadem wrote Mohammed’s pedophilia is a non-essential "Only if you fail to realize that those who follow him strive to emulate him, which of course leads to imitation." True. Very true. And to the extent that people use Mohammed's action as an excuse for their behavior it is disgusting and they should be called on it. But that does not indict Mohammed.

Thom. I'm not minimizing the role. I just don't think it's the primary indictment. I think the nihilism and being promoted by the islamo-fascists is the greatest concern. I think the culture of submssion to authority and the quest of a Islamic reich is of much greater concern than Muhammed's pedophilia.

psginfinity. I'm not excusing it. (see above)

TalkinKamel wrote:"Mohammed's pedophilia is, alas, all to relevant, vis a vis the sexual abuse going on in the Islamic world today ... in Islam Mohammed is considered "The Perfect Man", the man who should be emulated in all things." Well put. I think my objection is that stressing Mohammed's pedophilia inflames his supporters and distracts us from what I see as the first order of business. The desire by islamo-fascists to force the whole world to their way of thinking.


T_IT_UP wrote "It's called separating the wheat from the chaff." No. It's called pay attention to how you're being received. I could say. Fuck you bitch. You ignorant cocksucker. But how useful would that be. (By the way I don't think that. Just making a point.)


This post is getting far too long. I think that "Fucking Murderous Wahabist bastards" as Rayra put it is far more accurate, less charged and distracting than saying "[bigoted word]."

Just my opinion.

Classical Liberal

314 nagasaki_hata  Mon, Jan 17, 2005 9:35:59pm

#311 Goodbye_natalie

You make quite valid points!

I think many more of the lurkers would post if they thought they would receive a cordial welcome instead of immediately being held suspect.
Many of us life-long conservatives have been vilified after a few posts as 'moonbats' and other less savory names for espousing a differing view from the majority.
Perhaps it's the nature of cyerspace that people forget the manners their mamas taught them as children, assuming they were ever taught such civilities.
Still, it's an enjoyable intellectual exercise to learn or devise alternate names for many things, Mohammedans included, that don't needlessly and heedlessly belittle them.

To the free exchange of ideas in a friendly environment!

315 maumau  Tue, Jan 18, 2005 2:03:26am

Rayra and Thom

So, what do you think should be done next? Re-education camps for those icky old people who disagree with you and your ilk? Maybe cut the tongues of of those who use the term [bigoted word] and give gold stars to those who limit their name calling to terms such as goatfuckers? You two clowns still don't get it do you? You try to limit what people are allowed to say and then claim it's not a matter of Free Speeeeech. George Orwell couldn't have said it better. Congrats moonbats.

316 Goodbye_natalie  Tue, Jan 18, 2005 4:20:54am

Nagasaki_hata #314 and Maumau #315,

Rayra is one of the blog bullies who I guarantee wouldn't be so brave if standing in the same room. They'd be sucking their thumb in the corner with a bottle of Maalox in their wimpy little hands.

I've been called nazi, moonbat, fascist, neo-nazi, skinhead and about every other common insult on LGF. I haven't voted for a Democrat in 25 years, think Arafat should have been taken about about 1972, and whole-heartedly support not only Israel's right to exist but their right to blow about 5 adjoining countries off the face of the earth today if they wish and I'll be glad to help.

I'm so far-right that I'll be meeting the lunatic left fringe to hold hands when everything comes full circle. I would have turned Tora Bora into the Crystal Cathedral at the first drop of Marine blood and few here would have objected to that post. But hey, use the term "[bigoted word]." Now, that is stepping over the line. And I thought libs were P.C.?

317 nagasaki_hata  Tue, Jan 18, 2005 6:07:30am

#316 Goodbye_natalie

LOL !

Well said and true --- just the thing to read with my jasmine tea with early AM. Thanks!

318 Thom  Tue, Jan 18, 2005 6:12:41am

#311 Goodbye_natalie

Please read this very carefully:

1) I haven't limited anyone.
2) I have merely stated and defended my opinion.
3) Charles asked Marine Momma not to use the word "[bigoted word]".

Is that clear enough yet?

People will soon move on.

Please, don't let me stop you (et al).

#313 the classical liberal

I'm not minimizing the role. I just don't think it's the primary indictment.

No, it's not the primary indictment. But different issues push different people's buttons. If pointing out this aspect of the sickness of islam wins a new and heart and mind, then it needs to be discussed.

#315 maumau

You're addressing me and Rayra but you should really be directing your comments and abuse at Charles.

Shouldn't you?

#316 Goodbye_natalie

Maybe some of the abuse you've suffered here has nothing to do with your politics and everything to do with the fact that you don't seem to be paying attention very well.

319 Goodbye_natalie  Tue, Jan 18, 2005 8:24:21am

Well Thom, you're right.

I mean not paying attention should surely draw the wrath of folks like you with replies of fascist, neo-nazi, skinhead, fuckhead, Jew hater, and the like. I see your analogy. Good point.

But Thom, as of this morning, you've posted 5,231 times and become rather a bore. You'll excuse me if I just peruse through the mail and skip over you.

You need to go outside and get some air or something. Surely, that's a waste of life to live on a blog. Don't you have a girlfriend, boyfriend, or dog that would keep you better company?

320 Thom  Tue, Jan 18, 2005 8:29:36am

#319 Goodbye_natalie

When we get to this point in the discussion I know that you have finally understood what is going on. It's amazing - it's like these dialogues are pre-scripted.

BTW, I didn't call you any of those names.

By all means, scroll away.

And I'll be sure to give your opinions about my personal life their due consideration.

321 Rayra[deleted]  Tue, Jan 18, 2005 9:14:31am
322 Rayra[deleted]  Tue, Jan 18, 2005 9:16:47am
323 Rayra[deleted]  Tue, Jan 18, 2005 9:31:09am
324 Rayra[deleted]  Tue, Jan 18, 2005 9:36:57am
325 Rayra[deleted]  Tue, Jan 18, 2005 9:39:20am
326 Rayra[deleted]  Tue, Jan 18, 2005 10:00:17am
327 Goodbye_natalie  Tue, Jan 18, 2005 11:16:27am

Rayra,

Slow down. Man you just posted six logs in a row - you're going to bust a nut and stroke out. For someone like me who is supposedly weak with an insult, I would hate to see what you would do if somebody really pushed a button. You're apparently an M.I. waiting to happen.

Do you realize you're averaging about 20 posts a day? I'm going to have to take you and Thom

328 rightasrain  Tue, Jan 18, 2005 3:39:41pm

Goodnight_natalie, you're in trouble again.

What a surprise.

329 Rayra[deleted]  Tue, Jan 18, 2005 9:32:02pm
330 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 2:16:06am

Rayra

You need to get past your need to call everyone who disagrees with you names. When you resort to calling everyone idiots or dimwits, you have already lost the agument. In the case of you and Thom, you lost the argument in this thread a couple of days ago. Being a politically correct tag-team doesn't improve your tired old arguments - you're still trying to shut people up. Instead of trying to stop people from airing their views (however repugnant they are to you - although most of the rest of us couldn't care less), you'd be better off simply expressing your own views. I, for one, find them pretty amusing in this setting.

331 Thom  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 3:51:50am

#330 maumau

Another one who doesn't pay attention.

On this blog, the argument is over, and has been for some time.

I say again, shouldn't you be directing your comments and insults at Charles?

Instead of trying to stop people from airing their views

That is just too funny.

I can't express my views without the word "[bigoted word]" you fascists!

Dumbass.

332 Goodbye_natalie  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 3:58:04am

LightasRain,

My old friend. I've missed you! I finally found someone here more paranoid than yourself. And this guys is twice as wordy as you as indicated by his number of posts. How you been?

Hey, I found some of your nice comments about us Christians over on another board. I liked the part where you lumped us in with the Islamofascists and about going to hell and all. Nice. What about those seven universal truths? Oh, and I see your Orthodoxy carries over to your internet provider!


Maumau #330

If you want a good laugh and haven't done so, take a look at Rayra's pic from a link above - buzzcut and all. I suppose that's the well kept part. I guess that's him...I mean, anybody that's got the time to make about 20 posts a day everyday is a CVA on hold and this guy looks the part.

333 Geepers  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 5:15:04am

Goodbye_natalie, Just exactly what the fuck does someone's haircut have to do with anything?

334 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 5:51:55am

#332 Goodbye_Natalie_or_so_we_wish

Hey, I found some of your nice comments about us Christians over on another board. I liked the part where you lumped us in with the Islamofascists and about going to hell and all. Nice. What about those seven universal truths? Oh, and I see your Orthodoxy carries over to your internet provider!

Your ignorance of technology and the internet is profound.

"rightasrain" isn't my given name. I have no idea who might have co-opted this name elsewhere to appear on other boards.

The only blog/board/reality/universe where I write absolutely anything at all as "rightasrain" is right here in Little Green Footballs.

If you knew anything at all about technology, you would know that nicks aren't copyrighted across the entire internet. If you see a name that looks like mine, then you ought to be wondering or asking if it's the same 'rightasrain' as someone here. It's profoundly stupid of you to assume it.

You're a jerk, Natalie (or whoever you are.) The last time we met, you were hinting at being transgendered from female to male. The next time I saw you in another thread, you were going on and on about a beautiful but spent wife of yours (who's now worn out after being with you for too long and having your children.)

Whoever you are, you seem to be greatly confused and determined to tick off everyone around you.

This makes you a troll.

Why don't you live up to your name and say goodbye.

335 Goodbye_natalie  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 7:48:45am

Geepers,

Not much other than bearing an uncanny resemblance to Timothy McVeigh.

Mr. LightasRain,

Not only are you a lightweight but a liar. Want proof? Here you go you...

Mr. LightasRain and his comments on IndyMedia. You'll note that this was in reference to LGF...

rightasrain

But to save time, I'll post what our lovely Mr. Right published for the world to see. If I'm wrong Mr. Right, you might want to contact IndyMedia so you can sue for libel.
fuck you and your fucking Islamic bullshit! Shove the pork up your fucking ass you anti-semitic bastard. There is only one G_d and you, the Christians, and the foul stench that call themselves the “Religion of Peace” are fucked.

Oh and that technology I don't understand. Somehow I was able to make it through with a Masters Degree in Computer Engineering. I think it appears that it's you Hobbit that are on the wrong side of this post. And I'll stick around long enough to push a little limp dick like you over the edge...so you better hang tight.

336 Goodbye_natalie  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 8:02:57am

FYI Right,

I wasn't referencing a "nic." I was referencing your domain and that is carried across the NET which is not included in the previous link...you think Google is the only way to find things?

And you're what kind of an engineer? Some backroom administrator with a 1200 baud modem...back with the other pencil-necked geeks who haven't sniffed a girl yet?

Like I said Right, I didn't start this little war - you did hypocrite. And now you've stooped so low you've got to bring my family into it? Yep, I should never have mentioned them because some low-life like you would try and use it to advantage. What next, you going to insult my Mom too? You probably want to keep my wife and kids out of this limp dick.

337 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 8:14:07am

336 Natalie

Jeez, after that reaming you dished out, I'm beginning to feel sorry for these little politically correct geeks....


uh....no, not really.


Good job. Now go deal with real people...

338 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 8:16:46am

333 Geepers

You're right. I too think that President Bush would look just fine with a mullet.

339 Thom  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 8:19:52am

#336 Goodbye_natalie

You know, a little proof of your accusations would go a long way towards showing that you're not a complete asshole.

Just saying something doesn't prove it.

#337 maumau

You've got to be kidding.

Are you really calling Charles a "politically correct geek"?

340 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 8:22:37am

#335 Goodbye_wrong_natalie

Not only are you a lightweight but a liar. Want proof? Here you go you...

Proof that someone posted something using my nick? Gee, you should go to work for SeeBS.

But to save time, I'll post what our lovely Mr. Right published for the world to see. If I'm wrong Mr. Right, you might want to contact IndyMedia so you can sue for libel.

You're VERY wrong, as usual.

Wrong is your middle name apparently.

Anyone here can read my writings. I don't use the f-word even once in my writings, much less numerous times in the same sentence.

Search for all my writings here and see for yourself. I have no way to delete anything, so be my guest. See if you can find an instance where I wrote something like what you quoted with all those f-words in it.

I don't care what other blogs claim about me. I'm here and I care about what goes on here, not elsewhere. My words are a matter of record here. What people claim elsewhere is none of my concern.

I think it appears that it's you Hobbit that are on the wrong side of this post. And I'll stick around long enough to push a little limp dick like you over the edge...so you better hang tight.

Gee, how macho. So are you a female who became male? It's ok with me, but I'm just trying to figure out how you impregnated your wife who is so tired out by having been with you all this time. (I don't blame her.)

341 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 8:23:08am

Thom

No...I'm calling you and your butt-buddy Rayra politically correct geeks.

Got it?

342 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 8:26:32am

#336 Goodbye_wrong_natalie

And you're what kind of an engineer? Some backroom administrator with a 1200 baud modem...back with the other pencil-necked geeks who haven't sniffed a girl yet?

Actually, I work as an engineer for a company with offices all over the world. They do actually have offices in these places (big buildings, in fact.)

When I work from home, it's a treat. I do have an office.

Like I said Right, I didn't start this little war - you did hypocrite. And now you've stooped so low you've got to bring my family into it? Yep, I should never have mentioned them because some low-life like you would try and use it to advantage. What next, you going to insult my Mom too? You probably want to keep my wife and kids out of this limp dick.

I'm just trying to figure out if you're the same one who strongly hinted at being transgendered. Why would you do that and then make a big fuss in your next entries to make sure everyone knows you have a wife and kids?

Which time were you lying (and why?)

343 Thom  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 8:26:34am

#341 maumau

No, I don't "got it".

Charles asked Marine Momma not to use the word "[bigoted word]". That makes him, according to you, a "politically correct geek".

I'm sorry that logical thought is amongst your difficulties.

344 Thom  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 8:29:01am

Crap. Substitute "[bigoted word]" for "Arab" above.

345 Thom  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 8:29:32am

Ah. Nevermind. The filter is back up. Sorry.

346 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 8:29:41am

Thom

I have to rethink this whole thing...yes, I have decided that you are as stupid as I initially thought. Marine, eh? Enlisted?

347 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 8:30:57am

Thom

Substitute "stupid" for "stupid" above...

348 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 8:32:54am

Thom, is there a filter that substitutes the offensive word in question with the word "Arab"?

Cool!

I'm with Charles on this. This particular slur is best lost here.

349 Thom  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 8:36:10am

#348 rightasrain

Yes there is.

Consequently, I look like a blithering idiot. :)

#346 maumau

Ah, wonderful. Now you've moved on to insulting enlisted Marines ... way to go, man.

350 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 8:37:09am

#349 Thom

LOL :)

351 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 8:38:07am

Thom

Hehehehehehehehehehe... You are half right, but I wouldn't say you are "blithering"...

I'm not insulting enlisted Marines - just you and your rump-ranger buddy Rayra...

352 Thom  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 8:43:06am

#351 maumau

I have re-read #346 and I fail to see how

I have decided that you are as stupid as I initially thought. Marine, eh? Enlisted?

can be construed as anything other than a slam on the intelligence of enlisted Marines. How about officers of Marines? Are as they as stupid as I am, or is it just the grunts who are as stupid as I am?

353 Powderfinger  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 8:43:49am
I'm not insulting enlisted Marines - just you and your rump-ranger buddy Rayra...

And the host, who has implemented a filter to block the word you insist that one must be a "politically correct geek" to disapprove of.

Not the sharpest tool in the shed, are you?

354 Goodbye_natalie  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 9:35:29am

You know, I've been thinking. I believe I owe a few of you an apology.

Thom, I've enjoyed your posts but don't generally comment and don't wish to make an enemy. You're right, the word does reflect badly on board. So I apologize for taking a few cheap shots.

You too Rayra...I'd rather cool it and I was teasing about the reference to McVeigh. To answer your question which I don't think I've done, it was in reference to LGF's posting of Arafish on the day he died. If you're gray like me, I was listening to REO (hence, the album name) when I posted that. The respect for terrorists was definitely sarcastic.

I was making an observation in the original post that it seemed absurd that "the word" was being slammed when I personally found many more comments incredibly offensive - yet they pass without comment. What does that say about the members of LGF? I simply thought Marine Momma was unfairly singled out - and with her son serving, she's a hero in my book. But I didn't mean for the comment to insinuate that it be directed to any one individual. And yes, we all need to be more careful what we post; so I will.

Right, I long ago figured out you weren't much more than a kid. I'm still referring to a domain name, not a NIC - nick is what you do to your face. And this is no corporate domain name but a service provider. Either way, you ought to be more careful what you post across the net because it's real easy to track. It's a personal account - I checked. And to set the record straight, the pseudo name up there was a joke in reference to the Dixie Chicks. I've had a penis for as long as I can remember and don't want anything else - but I for sure want it to remain attached. Actually Right, we would be best to ignore each other. Though you post often, you'll note that I have left you alone. But you will be glad to note as in the number of comments I've posted, I generally just use LFG as a launching point while taking a break. One last thing...I've got a lot of faults but being Jew hater isn't one of them. Whether I like you or not, I would be on your side if the crap broke out. And sometime it will...

355 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 9:52:24am

#354 Goodbye_natalie

Right, I long ago figured out you weren't much more than a kid. I'm still referring to a domain name, not a NIC - nick is what you do to your face.

Well, I must be young at heart, cuz I'm not a kid.

Also, I don't have a domain name for my own personal use.

And this is no corporate domain name but a service provider. Either way, you ought to be more careful what you post across the net because it's real easy to track. It's a personal account - I checked.

Well, I don't post across the net, so I guess you've been fooled.

Color me surprised. :)

And to set the record straight, the pseudo name up there was a joke in reference to the Dixie Chicks. I've had a penis for as long as I can remember and don't want anything else - but I for sure want it to remain attached.

Why did you sign your notes something like "xoxox Natalie" and then say that your nick is a hint about your gender?

Just trying to be strange if this isn't reality? It worked. Yer strange.

Actually Right, we would be best to ignore each other. Though you post often, you'll note that I have left you alone. But you will be glad to note as in the number of comments I've posted, I generally just use LFG as a launching point while taking a break.

You presume way too much. I don't care whether you post or not, nor do I notice your comments unless you're in another big slug fest somewhere (which seems to be your strong suit.)

I won't ask what you're taking a break from, nor do I care.

I comment as I please.

One last thing...I've got a lot of faults but being Jew hater isn't one of them. Whether I like you or not, I would be on your side if the crap broke out. And sometime it will...

The crap broke out 2000 years ago.

Whatever you're up to, you were speaking to me as Natalie one minute, then hinting about being transgendered another minute, and then in another topic you were belching and farting all over the place while drooling over Ann Coulter and claiming her for a future wife (which is highly overt male posturing, at the very least.)

You seem to be a messed up person and I would be delighted if you forget I exist.

As for me, I don't have to work on it. You are non-existent by default for me until you're causing trouble (which, again, seems to be your strong suit.)

You really should consider going away, especially if this is just a launching pad for you. Drop your poop elsewhere before taking off on whatever you consider to be your big adventure on the net.

356 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 9:56:08am

When I say that I don't "post across the net", I'm referring to posting all over the net. I don't do that.

If Natalie is claiming to be hacking LGF and tracking people who post here, then I think it's a concern.

I don't post anywhere else so I'm not worried about being tracked across the net in various postings. I post here and nowhere else.

If Natalie is claiming to be trying to track me, then it sounds like a threat.

So what do we do about this?

Just wondering.

357 Thom  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 10:05:59am

#354 Goodbye_natalie

I appreciate that. Thank you.

That said, I have no idea how you could possibly know what you claim to know about rightasrain. For one thing, comparing that idiotmedia post to everything I've read of hers here is like comparing night and day. Second, to know that they are from the same person, you'd have to know the IP addresses and Charles does not broadcast IPs of posters here. So I'm at a loss to explain your claims.

358 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 10:31:14am

Where all this got started is that Rayra and Thom agree with Charles' policy of not allowing a particular racial slur here.

I agree with all three of them.

Sounds like we're done here.

359 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 10:35:03am

Just to clarify a point I made awhile ago...

I don't post all over the net because I usually get thrown out for arguing in support of Israel. So I gave up posting on the net quite awhile ago.

Then I started posting on LGF after reading LGF as a news source for two years.

I never posted as rightasrain until I came here.

I like it here and I see no need to go elsewhere to post, although I do read other forums.

This is a really nice place.

Thanks, Charles!

360 Goodbye_natalie  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 10:37:32am

You know Right,

You can't even be nice when somebody extends an olive branch. Whether young or old, you are truly a despicable human being. And obviously, a troubled one. You remind me of the neighborhood kid who makes prank phone calls or knocks on the front door while lighting a bag of dog shit and runs off.

Does your employer know you've posted 2,731 times the last six months on their dime - or are you so advanced now that you work second or third shift (aka administration)? Either you're dishonest, lonely, or your bored. Which is it?

Let me give you a lesson in life before I leave, though I doubt you wise enough to 'listen'. You'll go a lot further being nice than being nasty in a corporation. A smart mouth and punk attitude won't get you too far - but it will get your ass kicked. Take it from someone who made it, then didn't like it much once he got there. You're right...I didn't design web sites. People who worked for me did - about two levels down.

And as to branching out as a launch point somewhere else, do you think Charles would want 100 guests posting 10,000 times or 10,000 guests posting one hundred times? With all due respect Right, and I truly mean this, you're not the sharpest tool in the LGF shed. If you are not a kid, then you ought to be ashamed that you haven't wised up more.

Finally,

Threatening? Hardly...I hope this is the last time we converse. That was my wish from the last debate we had as until now, I had chosen to skip over your comments. You'll remember I thought you Frank's little toady then - now I'm sure of it. While he and I exchanged barbs, you were like the nappy haired dog that kept biting at my ankles. This will be my last comment directed your way - think of it kind of like the ignore button. Go ahead and input your last vile comment like you did over at IndyMedia so I can read it and get it over with. Then ignore me if you would.

361 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 10:50:20am

#360 Goodbye_natalie

You can't even be nice when somebody extends an olive branch. Whether young or old, you are truly a despicable human being. And obviously, a troubled one. You remind me of the neighborhood kid who makes prank phone calls or knocks on the front door while lighting a bag of dog shit and runs off.

Your olive branch to me sounded as sincere as Abbas when he reaches out to Israel.

Does your employer know you've posted 2,731 times the last six months on their dime - or are you so advanced now that you work second or third shift (aka administration)? Either you're dishonest, lonely, or your bored. Which is it?

You don't know my work hours or my arrangement at work. Last time, you were accusing me of being a kid in a basement. You're still clueless.

Let me give you a lesson in life before I leave, though I doubt you wise enough to 'listen'. You'll go a lot further being nice than being nasty in a corporation. A smart mouth and punk attitude won't get you too far - but it will get your ass kicked. Take it from someone who made it, then didn't like it much once he got there. You're right...I didn't design web sites. People who worked for me did - about two levels down.

So now you're some big corporate bigshot (past tense)?

Natalie, I'm unimpressed with you. While you've called me 'limpdick' and goodness knows what other names, I've been trying to figure out what sort of persona you're playing here.

I'm not interested in advice from you. You're kinda psycho, no offense.

And as to branching out as a launch point somewhere else, do you think Charles would want 100 guests posting 10,000 times or 10,000 guests posting one hundred times? With all due respect Right, and I truly mean this, you're not the sharpest tool in the LGF shed. If you are not a kid, then you ought to be ashamed that you haven't wised up more.

You're still trying to find the thing that will drive me and my alleged "limp dick" over the edge, eh Natalie?

You're tool has lost its edge.

Threatening? Hardly...I hope this is the last time we converse. That was my wish from the last debate we had as until now, I had chosen to skip over your comments. You'll remember I thought you Frank's little toady then - now I'm sure of it. While he and I exchanged barbs, you were like the nappy haired dog that kept biting at my ankles. This will be my last comment directed your way - think of it kind of like the ignore button. Go ahead and input your last vile comment like you did over at IndyMedia so I can read it and get it over with. Then ignore me if you would.

You STILL think you know me from IndyMedia?!?!?

Now that's funny.

Except it's not funny because you're dragging a battle from IndyMedia with someone else over to HERE as if it's part of LGF.

I don't post at IndyMedia, for the record.

It's extremely bad form for you to be hauling some other person's sins over here to blame on an innocent person.

You are a disgrace to the blogging world.

Get lost, troll.

362 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 10:51:47am

Correction: YOUR tool has lost its edge.

PIMF. :)

363 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 10:56:28am

Is IndyMedia left or right? I'm presuming it must be leftwing.

I'm glad I don't go there even to read, if so.

364 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 2:16:38pm

353 Powderfinger

Actually, Powderfinger, when I'm in someone's house and they ask me to stop doing something, I do it. That's why I stopped using the word that will go unmentioned. But that doesn't keep me from reminding other guests who happen to be really, really anal retentive, politically correct, and geeky that they are indeed anal retentive, politically correct, and geeky. Do you feel a little geeky, Powderfinger? Would you like to feel a little geek?

365 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 3:27:58pm
366 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 3:34:13pm
367 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 3:39:48pm
368 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 3:42:33pm
369 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 3:57:18pm
370 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 3:59:59pm
371 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 4:04:42pm
372 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 4:11:05pm
373 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 4:15:49pm

Rayra

You have got to find a better way to argue that to call everyone a piece of shit. Your scataphobia can be treated...
but first, you must admit that you're a anal retentive little geek but are willing to embrace your geekiness. Be healed!

374 Powderfinger  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 4:15:50pm
Actually, Powderfinger, when I'm in someone's house and they ask me to stop doing something, I do it. That's why I stopped using the word that will go unmentioned.

No, you've stopped using it because it's been disabled, by the host. In the meantime, you keep trying to float ad hominem assumption as argument, and you're being embarassed by a couple of age old lizards who object to the use of a word you've fought so ineptly to defend for the same reasons that I assume it's been filtered out of this blog.

In summation: You not smart.

375 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 4:16:50pm

Rayra

Just as I thought...enlisted marine. Oh, the humanity.

376 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 4:19:56pm

Powderfinger...

No, check Rayra's brilliant post #371. It's possible to use the word that must never be mentioned if one has the geeknicity to use the word that he hates so much. Unlike him, however, I won't tattle or be offended....TIA

377 Powderfinger  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 4:22:59pm

Do you have an actual point, maumau?

378 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 4:25:23pm
379 Powderfinger  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 4:26:24pm

While I wait for you to make it, I'm having a look at your post #242

It's pretty clear that you have your head lodged in a way that ought to be physically impossible.

380 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 4:33:58pm
381 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 4:34:03pm

Powderfinger

My point is that you and your buddies are politically correct anal retentive geeks whose life is centered on calling people names and talking tough on the internet. It's as if Ned Flanders has decided to call Homer a piece of shit and sprinkle "fuck" throughout his conversations. You make normal people want to puke.

382 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 4:42:59pm
383 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 4:46:19pm
384 Powderfinger  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 4:47:41pm

maumau, my point is that you couldn't be any more clueless if you had your brain removed and replaced with 3 pounds of pasta.

You're really quite pathetic, and your powers of analysis are straight out of DU.

Why don't you go back there?

385 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 4:49:09pm
386 Goodbye_natalie  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 4:52:35pm

Rayra,

LOL

I didn't say you were Tim McVeigh. I said you had an uncanny resemblance to him. Now I'm adding disposition and all.

I'm not sure where the transgendered opine came from besides the name but that's funny too - the lightweight above has me confused though because I said if memory serves me correctly and this is memory, "you could be transvestites over in France and I could be a serial axe murder." And like I said before, for as long as I can remember my penie has been attached. There, that ought to provide some ammunition for a crude remark or two.

Don't accept the apology, so be it. It was offered and still holds. Nothing more, nothing less. Actually, I admire anyone who has served in the military with honor. If you hold that distinction, then you too are okay in my book. I should remind you that McVeigh was an former Catholic, practicing agnostic until about the final five minutes. Then he had an epiphany...better call in the priest for last rites. Amazing how that works.

Here's to the brass tacks Ray for old times sake:

I jump from the rack in the middle of the night,
I make a headcall, and I'm ready to fight.
Greasegun, K-bar by my side,
these are the tools that make men die!
If I die in a combat zone,
box me up and ship me home,
Tell my mamma I did my best,
lay my smokie across my chest!
Place my body six feet down,
lower me in 'til I hit the ground.
I'll betcha five dollars up and to this day,
when I hit the bottom you'll hear me say:
I wannabe a Drill Instructor,
I wanna cut off all of my hair,
I wannabe a Drill Instructor,
I wanna earn that smokie bear!

Semper Fi

387 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 5:02:20pm
388 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 5:04:55pm

I was unaware of the requirement to refer to you geeks in numerous threads

389 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 5:05:19pm
390 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 5:07:36pm
391 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 5:09:41pm

What's your point?

392 Goodbye_natalie  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 5:10:35pm

Spitting image...same doo, same attitude. You advertise on those personals with that pic?

393 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 5:10:56pm

Whinge? Geek term?

394 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 5:12:24pm

Natalie - where is that pic?

395 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 5:23:24pm
396 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 5:27:46pm

Rayra

Give it up Pilgrim. You are just a little name-calling bitch who spends your life on the internet. Adios...catch you on the next panty bunching thread...

397 Goodbye_natalie  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 5:31:05pm

Maumau

Check out post #305...I guess he should have been showing his "ass" though since that's part he wants us to kiss. I don't know, perhaps he is but then again, that would be hairless.

398 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 5:33:01pm

Natalie, this is the quote from the Restless Earth topic that seemed like a hint to being transgendered:

You're each about as clever in your respective dialogue as you are in figuring out my gender. Does the goodbye give you a hint imbeciles?

As in "Goodbye_Natalie" TO "Ex_Natalie_Now_Nathan", as one commenter called you at the time.

I don't care if you're transgendered. If so, you're not alone. It's your issue, and it's most likely a difficult one, if you're really facing this.

In 554 of the Restless Earth topic, you signed like this:

xxoxx,

Natalie

Here's the link to it (and you signed this way more than once):

Kisses from someone named Natalie...

-------------------

Most of your insults at me have been sexually explicit descriptions of what you imagine to be the condition of my sex organs and my sex life.

You know I'm religious (Orthodox Jew) and you claim to be religious, too (evangelical Christian) -- so what's up with all the speculation and sexually explicit descriptions of someone you don't even know?

One of the first such insults was when you said I might be a transvestite from France and proceeded to decide that I stink.

Sexually explicit stuff is exploding just under the surface of your personality and I gotta tell you, it makes you come across as a psycho.

[Cue "Shriek, Shriek, Shriek" violin music from "Psycho" movie]

At any rate, whatever you're selling here, I don't want it.

You're just too sexually violent here, which is hardly something that is compatible with being religious. I suspect you're just a run of the mill moonbat (someone who hangs out in IndyMedia) and that you're pretending to be religious here or something.

I don't know and I don't care.

You're a psycho and I have no interest in figuring out your psychosis.

399 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 5:35:36pm

If you need reminding again, Natalie, I do NOT post at IndyMedia.

I don't even READ IndyMedia.

Whoever you're having a war with over there, it isn't me.

Deal with your issues in a psychiatric office and leave us out of it.

400 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 5:37:45pm

Natalie

Man, I'm glad I checked back to see where you saw the picture. Thanks. You're right, he looks like McVeigh...but that haircut isn't high and tight enough for a marine...I suspect he is/was enlisted Army. Hence the "kiss my ass". Certainly not officer material. Probably not a Marine. Since he posts day and night, he is probably a clerk in the orderly room with access to the internet or someone stealing time from his corporate employer.

Thanks again.

401 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 5:42:02pm

Check maumau's listings for the 172 comments written so far.

Most of his comments are nastygrams at people who say they're in the military.

This guy is a John Kerry wannabe.

Next.

402 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 5:42:08pm

rightasrain

Right...you're not the one with the sexual issues. Yeah, that's the ticket. Why don't you just admit you'd like to bear Natalie's children for God's sake?

403 Goodbye_natalie  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 5:42:58pm

Maumau, maybe...

Ray...

404 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 5:43:45pm

maumau,

Why don't you take your bitterness against the military out on yourself.

Go kick your own ass and then have a 26 year crying fest.

405 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 5:44:17pm

rightasrain

No...but I can recognize military wannabes since I spent a very long time wearing the uniform.

406 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 5:45:45pm

#405 maumau

No...but I can recognize military wannabes since I spent a very long time wearing the uniform.

You do nothing but disgrace the uniform and the military now.

My Dad was a Vietnam vet. I spit at you personally for being such a crass jerk.

Go to hell.

407 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 5:47:43pm

rightasrain

I have no bitterness against the military - hence the 26 year stint and the very good retirement check. Military life was and is till very good to me...

408 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 5:49:14pm

rightasrain

What was daddy's name. He might have worked for me. He was enlisted right? He did a great job raising you...away a lot, was he?

409 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 5:49:40pm

#407 maumau

I have no bitterness against the military - hence the 26 year stint and the very good retirement check. Military life was and is till very good to me...

Then your being a disgrace to the uniform and to the military is even WORSE if you're still getting paid to be this way.

I was born on a military base. I spit on you personally on being someone I would never have wanted to associate with in my entire life growing up in a military family.

You should send back your checks. You don't deserve them.

410 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 5:50:45pm

Natalie - thanks again. Yep...Gomer.

411 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 5:50:47pm

maumau, you're a pig. I hope you get court-martialled as a retiree for being a disgrace to our entire military.

412 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 5:51:11pm

maumau, you couldn't lick the bottom of my Dad's boots.

413 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 5:52:33pm

This only gets better. You spit on me? Next you'll say Nanny-nanny-boo-boo

414 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 5:53:18pm

maumau, you're a pig. Get lost.

415 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 5:54:21pm

rightasrain

Your dad licked plenty if he was enlisted.

416 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 5:54:30pm
417 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 5:55:58pm

Rayra

I know all I need to know about you.

418 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 5:56:27pm

maumau, actually, I don't believe you were in the military at all.

It's just a role you play to try to trash the military, as if we need more people to be doing that.

I've known military people all my life (from the split second I was born in a military hospital) and I've never seen anyone purposefully disgrace the military in the ways that you've been doing here.

You're just a moonbat going against our troops.

So what else is new.

419 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 5:59:04pm

rightasrain

Try again, geek. In the real world, most military types wouldn't piss on guys like you if you were on fire. I don't care if you believe me or not.

420 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:00:00pm
421 Goodbye_natalie  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:01:39pm

Maumau,

Don't be to hard on Right up there...he's too busy toggling between the porn and IndyMedia, then pretending he doesn't know what IndyMedia is. He posted how Christians are pigs along with the Muslims out on their board and he got caught. Note the date of the posting and check out LGF on the same day. You'll see the link. A real coincidence, huh? Now he doesn't know how to get out of it so he's dancing...hence, rehashing the whole ordeal over and over and over...

Want proof? If the guy doesn't know what IndyMedia is as he claims, read some of his archives...the guy is a pathological liar to boot. He's posted here now about 6 million times and how often has that awful website been mentioned here - but he doesn't know what it is? B.S. A sad case...whom I've had to choose to ignore so I've got to talk 3rd party. I'm hoping he'll leave me alone but I'm probably not that lucky. He's been like a black cloud hanging over my head.

Figure his rabbi knows he talks like this?

422 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:01:42pm

maumau, some people join the military and others are born into it.

We can tell the difference between real military people and those who are just getting their kicks by trying to make the military look bad.

You're a fake.

You're a moonbat who hates our soldiers.

It's the only reason you're here.

423 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:02:10pm

Right...POS. The geek mantra.

424 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:03:21pm
425 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:05:31pm
426 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:08:52pm

#421 Natalie

Don't be to hard on Right up there...he's too busy toggling between the porn and IndyMedia, then pretending he doesn't know what IndyMedia is. He posted how Christians are pigs along with the Muslims out on their board and he got caught. Note the date of the posting and check out LGF on the same day. You'll see the link. A real coincidence, huh? Now he doesn't know how to get out of it so he's dancing...hence, rehashing the whole ordeal over and over and over...

You know NOTHING about the internet, Natalie. If I wanted to swear at you in some other place, I'd use a different name.

Guess what? People on the internet aren't stuck with the same nickname wherever they go. I bet you didn't know that.

I don't post as 'rightasrain' anywhere but here. I don't post at IndyMedia at all.

Want proof? If the guy doesn't know what IndyMedia is as he claims, read some of his archives...the guy is a pathological liar to boot. He's posted here now about 6 million times and how often has that awful website been mentioned here - but he doesn't know what it is? B.S.

I've talked about DUmmies R Us a number of times. It's a blog called the Democratic Underground, which is a different place than IndyMedia.

Prove you're not lying and find ONE INSTANCE IN THIS ENTIRE BLOG WHERE I'VE MENTIONED GOING TO INDYMEDIA TO READ IT.

You won't find it because I don't go there (except for the one time I followed your link when you accused me of being there.)

A sad case...whom I've had to choose to ignore so I've got to talk 3rd party. I'm hoping he'll leave me alone but I'm probably not that lucky. He's been like a black cloud hanging over my head.

Actually, I'm starting to think that you and maumau are the same person.

If you're not, you certainly could be.

427 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:10:27pm

Natalie - why am I not surprised at this info? You caught the little pimp and he know it. His response is to call you a piece of shit.

428 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:10:29pm
429 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:11:51pm

Rayra, maumau is definitely a fake. I grew up on military bases.

He spends all his time here trashing people who were in the military. He probably couldn't pass the physical or something.

430 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:13:18pm

maumau, I'm not the one who used the term "P.O.S." about Natalie, although Natalie certainly deserves the title.

431 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:14:24pm

That's your idea of an insult? Accusing someone of being a poser? Or a POS?

Well, you guys are certainly not posers. You come across as whiny bitches and I truly believe that's what you are.

432 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:16:00pm

Let's step back for a second and see how all this started....

A few people here objected to the use of a racial slur about Arabs.

Here we are, a bunch of rightwingers (Rayra, Thom and myself) who are being trashed to the ends of the earth for going against the use of a racial slur about Arabs (a slur that our host Charles has banned.)

No one would believe it if they hadn't seen it for themselves.

433 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:18:02pm

rightasrain - Grew up on military bases? What does that mean? By bases, do you mean army Posts, Aif Force Bases, Marine Camps, or Navy Bases? If you really grew up on military bases, you know the difference betwen officers and enlisted. Well, that's true if you grew up on bases before everyone became buddies.

434 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:19:04pm

maumau

Grew up on military bases? What does that mean? By bases, do you mean army Posts, Aif Force Bases, Marine Camps, or Navy Bases? If you really grew up on military bases, you know the difference betwen officers and enlisted. Well, that's true if you grew up on bases before everyone became buddies.

It means that I know the difference between the real deal and a moonbat looking to trash the military.

You're a fake.

435 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:19:26pm

Right wingers? who was the first "right winger" you all voted for? you do vote, don't you?

436 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:20:33pm

maumau, get lost.

Go back to the slimey rock underneath which you emerged.

You're a moonbat.

437 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:21:08pm

rightasrain

so...now who's the fake? Which was it? By grew up, were you born in a military hospital and lived off base or in Capehart housing if Air Force? You whiny little liar.

438 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:22:05pm
439 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:22:17pm

Get lost? Heheheh. I see a nanny nanny boo boo coming.

440 Goodbye_natalie  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:23:06pm

Well Maumau,

LightasRain is either a dumbass, of which I already knew, or a pathological liar of which I now now, or both which seems certain. How's this for dancing...a regular Rambo, isn't he?

Is IndyMedia left or right? I'm presuming it must be leftwing.

I'm glad I don't go there even to read, if so.

441 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:24:01pm

Rayra, we have a similar background as kids who grew up in the military, so you know exactly what I'm talking about.

No way was this guy in the military. No way in the world.

Unless he spent 26 years in the brig or something.

442 Goodbye_natalie  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:24:02pm

Make now know...gad, my typing is awful anymore.

443 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:25:48pm

#440 Natalie

Is IndyMedia left or right? I'm presuming it must be leftwing.
I'm glad I don't go there even to read, if so.

So IndyMedia is your home base blog, eh moonbat?

Then it must be leftwing.

444 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:26:36pm
445 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:27:43pm

So where is all this proof that I've spoken about IndyMedia a million times here, by the way?

All you have to do is to search and link, if you were telling the truth.

Who could resist finding these links and pointing them out, if they existed?

You're lying and I think everyone here has figured it out by now, except for fellow moonbats.

446 Goodbye_natalie  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:28:07pm

Be careful, he spits a lot too! I had to get a cover for my monitor.

447 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:28:32pm

#445 is directed to Natalie, of course.

448 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:29:24pm

Where's the proof, Natalie?

Where have I spoken about reading IndyMedia?

Put up or shut up.

449 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:30:34pm

Natalie - These guys are neither liberal or conservative. They probably don't vote and have no respect for the real military. They are internet tough guys who pretend to be what they are not. When confronted with disagreement, they call you a piece of shit and accuse you of being...gasp...a moonbat. The one doesn't know the different between a Post and a Base. The guy who served in the Marines probably should have made a career of it...but he'd stand a chance of being dead now - and that's the real military. None of this bullshit of flowers and teddy bears and yellow ribbons tied around trees. Blood, and gubfire, and death - duty, honor, and country. Most of the people serving today just see it as another job instead of a calling. That is all.

450 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:32:25pm

maumau aka Natalie, where is the proof that I've spoken of IndyMedia in LGF?

You're a moonbat troll.

Provide the proof that you claim is here in LGF.

Put up or shut up.

451 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:33:56pm

rightassrain

I don't give a shit where you post. You sound like thar reganite guy...

452 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:34:47pm

maumau aka Natalie, where is the proof that I've spoken of IndyMedia in LGF?

You're a moonbat troll.

Provide the proof that you claim is here in LGF.

Put up or shut up.

453 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:35:24pm

rightassrain

I don't give a shit where you post. You sound like thar reganite guy...

454 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:36:29pm

You are done. You've revealed yourself.

Even Nodrog isn't as big a jerk as you are.

Be gone.

Shoo.

455 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:37:03pm
456 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:38:06pm

maumau/Natalie is definitely a psycho, whatever its origins.

457 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:38:53pm

Rayra

Yep. you were an enliste swine. Can't cover that up.

458 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:40:21pm

Rayra, I'd have to say that maumau/Natalie is the bastard child of a prostitute that lived near a military base.

Very sad. Very angry. Very psycho.

459 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:42:44pm

rightasrain
Let me guess...your old man was a tech sergeant...a 20-year TSgt. Right?

460 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:44:25pm

maumau/Natalie, you should try to get over your humble origins.

It's not your fault that your Mom was a prostitute abandoned by your Dad. These things happen.

461 Goodbye_natalie  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:52:26pm

Okay, I'll break my promise. But just this once Right because I'm actually starting to feel sorry for the runt of the litter. I thought my children lied poorly - but at least I've got to see them to know it.

So I'm to believe after all the time you spend here on the corporate dime, you've never heard of IndyMedia before I start perusing the archives (2,800 posts is a lot to scan even for a computer and no telling how many millions of records) and wasting my time? If it isn't an issue and I'm full of it, why the what seems like 642 postings concerning the subject. Is this kind of like returning to the scene of the crime or something?

Admit it, get over it, ignore it, do something. But for goodness sake, quit rehashing it. You couldn't rate any lower in my book and I doubt anyone else cares...I didn't. It just confirmed what I knew about your character.

By the way, I'm willing to believe both Rayra and Maumau both served. Rayra has at least some redeeming qualities like covering my *ss for a time - though it pains him now. When he told me the end was near in a previous post, I started looking up.

Too bad LGF doesn't allow for a few tools to scan their database so I don't have to look at the frickin archives? Something like:

SELECT USER, Comment
FROM LFG
Where USER = '%Rambo Rain%' and
And
Comments = '%Rehashing same old crap?%'

462 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:54:46pm

#461 Natalie

Just as I knew would happen - you didn't find a single comment saying that I read IndyMedia. Not even ONE.

You've been found out.

The truth about you is out.

463 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:55:20pm
464 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 6:56:37pm

Everyone else here is welcome to look (if anyone has any doubts about who is telling the truth.)

I do NOT read IndyMedia and I certainly don't write there.

I DO read Democratic Underground from time to time, but I do NOT write there. They only allow moonbats to sign up there.

It's the truth and the facts are all right here.

Natalie couldn't fake its way through the lie this time.

Disgusting, but I'm glad it's been proven now.

465 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 7:09:47pm

463 Rayra

I have too. Posted AFSCs, years in service, assignments (to include VN), and other data. More importantly, I don't care if you believe me or not. I believe you served, because you said you did. Only maggots lie about their service - maggots and Democrat presidential candidates. I was a career officer - went through OTS (no academies for me) and stayed for 20+ years because I couldn't believe they would pay me for having that much fun.

466 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 7:12:05pm

#465 maumau

I couldn't believe they would pay me for having that much fun.

I don't believe they did either.

467 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 7:12:32pm

rightasrain

Really...no one gives a shit if you are a lefty. We accept the fact that you are light in the loafers, so why not lefty as well?

468 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 7:13:36pm

rightasrain

Who cares what you believe you little enlisted-spawn?

469 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 7:13:45pm

#467 maumau

Were you born with syphillus?

It could explain a lot.

470 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 7:15:12pm

maumau, if you'd been born later, your crack whore Mom might have given you AIDS.

So being born with siphillus isn't so bad. It's somewhat curable for a baby born with it, I think.

471 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 7:15:47pm

rightasrain

man, you are full of those biting insults...well, you do bite.

You're a kid, right? Say, under 25?

472 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 7:17:06pm

maumau, I think being born with siphillus probably gives you a lot of anger and difficulties in dealing with other people, I'll bet.

Try seeing a shrink about it.

473 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 7:17:24pm

rightasrain

Only enlisted men got laid by crack-whores...ask your Dad.

474 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 7:18:06pm

maumau,

Well, you certainly do speak as one who would know (as the son of a crack whore.)

475 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 7:19:33pm

Meanwhile, Natalie, you haven't provided a single pointer to a single comment where I said that I read IndyMedia.

I'm presuming that being born with siphillus has given you multiple personalities.

I'll address them individually.

476 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 7:20:39pm

rightasrain

That's a lefty response. You disagree with me, therefore you need to see a shrink. Worked for the Soviets. works in academia now. Your "liar, liar, pants on fire" insults just don't work on adults.

Got it?

477 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 7:21:34pm

maumau,

You need more medication for siph.

It doesn't go away all by itself, you know.

478 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 7:22:35pm

Calling someone's mother a crack-whore and indignant about what peolpe call Arabs. You guys are quite a bunch...of pussies.

479 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 7:23:44pm

#478 maumau

Calling someone's mother a crack-whore and indignant about what peolpe call Arabs. You guys are quite a bunch...of pussies.

Insulting an individual is not the same thing as a racial slur.

If you weren't born with siphillus, you'd know that.

480 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 7:24:05pm

rightasrain

Put on your panties and go to bed...you lost this argument about an hour ago.

481 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 7:25:02pm

#480 maumau

Put on your panties and go to bed...you lost this argument about an hour ago.

You wouldn't still be here bitching if this were true, siph boy.

482 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 7:28:02pm

heheheheh. You actually believe this syphillus thing you have become obsessed with is an insult? Whatever Natalie said to get you to wet your panties...that was an insult.

483 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 7:28:47pm

Good, you enjoy having been born with siphillus.

It's a healthy attitude, even if the disease rots your brain.

484 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 7:30:41pm

Meanwhile, attention Natalie personality:

You still haven't provided the link to ONE TIME that I've written that I read IndyMedia. Not even one.

You say that there are over 600 times, but you haven't shown even one.

You've been caught in a lie.

A whopping one.

485 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 7:32:29pm

rightasrain

You called me siph "boy"...oh really? Boy? You object to what I called Arabs and you are calling me "boy"? Is that what you meant to say? You screwed the pooch this time, and I'm not talking about the "siph" part. I knew you'd eventually work that into the conversation...

486 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 7:33:53pm

#485 maumau

You called me siph "boy"...oh really? Boy? You object to what I called Arabs and you are calling me "boy"? Is that what you meant to say? You screwed the pooch this time, and I'm not talking about the "siph" part. I knew you'd eventually work that into the conversation...

Is there something you haven't been telling us?

Why do you object to being called a "boy" while you insist that it's ok to use a racial slur against Arabs?

The plot thickens.

487 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 7:34:05pm

rightasrain

I'd cut my losses and STFU from this point forward.

488 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 7:35:36pm

#487 maumau

I'd cut my losses and STFU from this point forward.

What losses?

What do you think gives you the edge all of a sudden in argument where YOU are saying that racial slurs are ok while Rayra, Thom and I have been saying that they aren't?

489 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 7:37:06pm

So, you think calling someone "boy" is a racial slur?

490 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 7:38:55pm

You seem to be implying that I've made a racial slur when I was really making a slur against people born from prostitutes with siphillus.

You tell me.

Do you really think that you have some adventage in this that I have yet to find out?

491 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 7:41:42pm

Keep in mind that Jewish men are sometimes called "Jew-boys," too.

492 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 7:42:25pm

Ask you buddy Charles for a ruling...

493 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 7:44:23pm

#491

Not by me.

494 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 7:44:55pm

Well, considering that it wasn't made in the context of race (and that race still is only being implied here and not openly stated), then I think he's sticking with the objection to the KNOWN slur that he banned. It's THIS slur that you think should be allowed (the racial slur against Arabs.)

I don't speak for him, but if you're about to spring the existence of a racial component in this on your end, I don't believe it any more than I believe you were in the military.

I think you're a liar all the way up and down the line.

495 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 7:46:01pm

#493 maumau

Not by me.

Well, I haven't knowingly called an African American man a 'boy' either.

496 maumau  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 7:48:55pm

I know you are a racist. There are worse things - like being a geek...but combine the two and you got a potent blend of toxic waste.

497 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 7:50:36pm

#496 maumau

I know you are a racist. There are worse things - like being a geek...but combine the two and you got a potent blend of toxic waste.

You're the one who has been arguing in favor of using racial slurs (while it's been Rayra, Thom and I who are opposed to them.)

I don't believe that you're a racial minority.

It's just something you're saying to try to win the point that it's ok to use racial slurs.

I'm not buying it.

498 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 7:55:59pm

Even if you ARE a member of a racial minority, you lack the authority an an individual to make it ok to call 300 million other people by a racial slur.

We refuse to do it.

You WANT to use a racial slur for some reason, but we won't go along with it.

499 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 7:56:50pm

So I guess it makes you the racist, bud.

500 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 8:02:43pm

Why on Earth do you promote the use of a racial slur against 300 million people?

Why do you purposely address men as "pussies"? It's a misogynist slur against women.

Why do you think that you personally have the authority to order us to go against our objections to racial and sexist slurs?

501 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 8:14:37pm

In this blog, there are numerous Jews, women, Latinos, and every other group representation you could possibly want, probably.

NO ONE has the power to say, 'Well, I'm a woman (a minority) so I order you to use a racial slur against group x.'

No one has that kind of authority.

We've been arguing against the use of a racial slur.

NO ONE can order us to change our minds on this.

502 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 9:17:00pm
503 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 9:21:45pm
504 rightasrain  Wed, Jan 19, 2005 9:27:12pm

You're right on the money, Rayra!

Here's what maumau wrote in #242:

You are obviously one of those fools who believe the First Amendment is null and void when people's feelings get hurt by so-called racial ephithets. Either that or you're a [bigoted word]...

The hypocrite meter has now pegged, snapped, and shot across the room.

505 Powderfinger  Thu, Jan 20, 2005 5:09:36am
Yep. you were an enliste swine. Can't cover that up.
Who cares what you believe you little enlisted-spawn?
Only enlisted men got laid by crack-whores...ask your Dad.

If maumau is a career military officer, I'm Condi Rice.

Stinky needs to drop by with some Trollbegone™.

506 rightasrain  Thu, Jan 20, 2005 5:25:31am

My Dad was a retiree before he passed away. Retirees do things like play golf together afterward, and they don't give a HOOT IN HELL about who was an officer and who was an enlisted man.

If maumau was a career officer at all, which is incredibly doubtful, he may be a psycho job for having been passed over for promotion. It's one of the main reasons for an officer to leave earlier than normal, even if they claim to have adored their time in service.

If an officer is passed over for promotion, it's humiliating and the officer resigns his/her commission.

In High School, we worried like crazy over this (dads being passed over for promotion) because it meant friends moving away when it happened. Sometimes it did happen.

It's an utterly and complete disgrace for someone to be running around calling soldiers 'swine' for being enlisted. In military housing, officers' and enlisted men's kids play together.

If maumau was in the the military at all (which is doubtful), he is a disgrace to the uniform as much as John Kerry.

Maumau and Natalie (who are likely the same person) is a moonbat troll, nothing more.

507 Goodbye_natalie  Thu, Jan 20, 2005 5:41:03am

Medical terminology doesn't seem to be your strong suit either Light. If you are going to use the word syphillis, at least learn to spell it right...

You like to psycho analyze do you runt? Well how's this? Your Daddy, who by the way served in Vietnam, had offspring who didn't quite measure up. Rambo Right now wears his nerts for earrings to match his locks because Daddy had to kick him in the ass so many times growing up.

Rambo Right never lived up to Daddy's high expectations so he became a flunkie engineer who hasn't experienced sex more looking at dirty pictures and flogging the little mule. He's demoted to the backroom as an administrator checking porn and scanning LGF.

Daddy, who by the way served in Vietnam, has abandoned Rambo but sonny still hopes to see the day where he can impress Daddy, who by the way served in Vietnam, thereby making a claim of bravery to add to the astounding fact of being born in a military hospital and watching First Blood, Part II.

508 rightasrain  Thu, Jan 20, 2005 5:47:30am

#507 Natalie

MORE sexually explicit material from you about someone you don't know, I see. You'd be the porn freak in this place, obviously.

You're making Nodrog look like such a nice guy in comparison.

I really hope you don't have kids. If you do, then I hope social services is keeping an eye on you.

Addressing people constantly with sexually explicit insults is not the sign of a decent parent who should be allowed around children.

Be gone, troll.

509 rightasrain  Thu, Jan 20, 2005 5:54:14am

Meanwhile, you lying freak, where is even ONE pointer to a comment in here about my reading IndyMedia?

There isn't a single one.

You lied about finding over 600 such comments. If you could have found even one, you'd have posted it.

You're a moonbat troll.

510 Thom  Thu, Jan 20, 2005 7:07:44am

Wow. Goodbye_natalie and maumau have dug a hole deeper than the Marianas Trench.

Way to go. I guess ...

511 rightasrain  Thu, Jan 20, 2005 7:10:39am

Hi Thom!

This topic has been busy alright.

We have the trolls surrounded in their hidey hole now, tho. :)

512 Thom  Thu, Jan 20, 2005 7:17:40am

#511 rightasrain

Charles oughta pull out the Troll-B-Gone™.

513 Goodbye_natalie  Thu, Jan 20, 2005 7:40:30am

Now Thom, be sweet (post #354).

I've apologized to you once for being nasty when I stepped over the line. You're more civilized than the lying runt Lightasrain who must secretly be in love with me so you deserve a little respect. Now would a troll apologize?

First Blood Rambo, on the other hand, likes to bring wives, kids, and mothers into it he's such a low-life. Everything said was long overdue for limpdick, whose Daddy by the way served in Vietnam.

If he can dish it, he ought to be able to take it...don't you think?

514 Rayra[deleted]  Thu, Jan 20, 2005 7:43:16am
515 Thom  Thu, Jan 20, 2005 7:44:39am

Natalie, the problem is that you've made some serious accusations against rightasrain and you still haven't proved them.

Yes, you apologized to me. But unfounded accusations are hard to bear in silence.

516 rightasrain  Thu, Jan 20, 2005 7:44:51am

#513 Natalie

Social services should be able to figure out where you are to protect your kids from you.

You say you go to medical school in a city in the south west U.S. where the population is 750,000.

Go get 'im, social services. A pervert who deals in almost nothing but sexually explicit insults has access to children.

This must be stopped.

517 rightasrain  Thu, Jan 20, 2005 7:49:57am

Natalie claimed to have found over 600 comments of mine in here where I talked about reading IndyMedia, yet he didn't post even one link to any such comment.

They don't exist.

I have no way to delete anything here and I have INVITED people to look at all my comments to see if I've spoken about reading IndyMedia and what they're saying over there.

It's a provable lie on Natalie's part.

Personally, I think all the numerous sexually explicit insults to me are aimed at my being religious. Natalie is aiming at trying to insult sexual organs in the believe that he can 'drive me over the edge', as he put it.

It's a disgusting thing to do. Typical moonbat behavior, though.

518 rightasrain  Thu, Jan 20, 2005 7:58:00am

Considering that I've only been 'rightasrain' here and it's only been for three months or so, I suspect that Natalie co-opted the nick 'rightasrain' in IndyMedia to write filth in my name so he could scream about it here.

I'm not famous on the internet. When I was being thrown out of liberal places for supporting Israel, I used a variety of different names.

Natalie is on a campaign to slime a religious Jew with every disgusting sexually explicit accusation about body parts, etc, that he can dream up.

I suspect that Natalie's war is really an attempted slap at Judaism.

519 rightasrain  Thu, Jan 20, 2005 8:22:09am

The primary reason why I don't post on liberal forums anymore is that if they find out you're Orthodox Jewish, an almost rape mentality springs up (where they want to verbally assault you in a sexual way in any possible manner that they can dream up.)

It's really sick.

As bad as DUmmies R Us can get, I don't recall seeing them sporting rape fantasies about religious Jews there. They're mostly political idiots and suicide-prone babies who can't believe they lost another election.

I don't know what they do at IndyMedia and I don't want to know.

520 Thom  Thu, Jan 20, 2005 8:27:35am

rightasrain -

You don't have to keep going on. Natalie hasn't proven a thing and everyone following this thread knows it.

You're cool. :)

521 rightasrain  Thu, Jan 20, 2005 8:29:27am

Thanks, Thom! :)

522 Goodbye_natalie  Thu, Jan 20, 2005 8:32:47am

Thom,

The accusations are fact. Don't believe me? If you had read all the posts which you probably didn't due to time constraints, you would see I simply matched what was on the board of LGF versus the link. Same day, same topic...basically same time. Coincidence...pretty far stretch or some really bad luck.

If Light is not guilty, why the continual denials and references other than to dance? He's a stupid kid who said a stupid thing on a board that appears to relish in much worse. In my book, it's no big deal other than the fact to prove Light's a major-league hypocrite from a previous discussion we had concerning truth in religion. I wasn't even going to address him again but he keeps following me around the room like some toady.

As far as Rambo Light's comments above, the 600 references was a hyperbole I made due to his post denying he even knew what IndyMedia was. Uhhuh...But there is no way I'm going to go back and reference close to 3,000 posts through a zillion records unless somebody gives me the technical tools to do so. Give me access to the database, I'll prove much worse than he's a hypocrite but I don't think LGF's owner(s) would grant that and even if they did, I wouldn't waste their time or mine.

But you mean to tell me that I have been able to discern IndyMedia is a despicable board in the short time I've been here, yet Rambo, who seems to live here hasn't figured what IndyMedia is as he states (see above)? If somebody is pretending to be him, you'll note they did a damn good job of writing just like Light, descriptions, punctuation, and references to G_d.

Thom, I don't know if you're a parent but you can easily tell when a kid's lying by the responses he/she gives. Trust me on this one. I wasn't sure when I got here. I am now. It's no fun to get caught with your hand in the cookie jar. But it's no big deal to me really. Just calling his bluff from sometime back. But I was trying to show him before he gets shitty, which general takes about one post, he ought to be more careful as he is so quick to remind others, when convenient.

523 Thom  Thu, Jan 20, 2005 8:52:05am

#522 Goodbye_natalie

You should just let it go.

524 Goodbye_natalie  Thu, Jan 20, 2005 8:54:22am

Thom,

One other thing. Remember that little LGF clique I mentioned in my first response sometime back. #520 is exactly what I was referencing. But I'm glad you made Light feel better. The kid's probably never experience fellatio so you might want to try that next. Help to curl his hair. No matter what Light says, no matter what he does, no matter how hypocritical or vile Light is, Thom's there for him. Sweet. Board lovers.

So far, I've debated with a ranting lunatic with a bad haircut, Rambo Light, who's Daddy by the way served in Vietnam, and sympathetic Big Brother, the bore. Think I'm going to go play retrieve with my labs - they're much more entertaining. But it's been something to do while eating lunch. You two really need to find a purpose or a direction...get a girlfriend, buy a dog, rent a movie (together I suppose), throw the football around, take a walk, etc...anything other than this apparent virtual copulation the little clan seems to perform on an hourly basis.

It is time for me to shoo so you guys can have your lovefest. Oh, and Light. This one's for you as I pat your soft little curls. Give me one more lying post for old time's sake, will ye? How about me and the flock going to hell again?

XXoXXOX, G.N

525 rightasrain  Thu, Jan 20, 2005 9:01:13am

#522 Natalie

The accusations are fact. Don't believe me? If you had read all the posts which you probably didn't due to time constraints, you would see I simply matched what was on the board of LGF versus the link. Same day, same topic...basically same time. Coincidence...pretty far stretch or some really bad luck.

You claimed that you had found 600+ times in LGF where I spoke of reading IndyMedia.

It was a flat out LIE on your part. No such comment exists.

If you think that some posts were made at IndyMedia while we were discussing things here, then perhaps you made these posts using my name at IndyMedia. Who knows.

You are lying when you claim that you've proven any connection to me.

As far as Rambo Light's comments above, the 600 references was a hyperbole I made due to his post denying he even knew what IndyMedia was. Uhhuh...But there is no way I'm going to go back and reference close to 3,000 posts through a zillion records unless somebody gives me the technical tools to do so. Give me access to the database, I'll prove much worse than he's a hypocrite but I don't think LGF's owner(s) would grant that and even if they did, I wouldn't waste their time or mine.

Use the search tool. Everyone else does. If you could prove your accusations, then you would do this. You can't because it's all a great big whopping lie on your part.

But you mean to tell me that I have been able to discern IndyMedia is a despicable board in the short time I've been here, yet Rambo, who seems to live here hasn't figured what IndyMedia is as he states (see above)? If somebody is pretending to be him, you'll note they did a damn good job of writing just like Light, descriptions, punctuation, and references to G_d.

The style of writing by the imposter in IndyMedia (based on your quote) is NOTHING like the way I write. I don't use the f-word AT ALL, much less over and over and over in the same sentence.

Thom, I don't know if you're a parent but you can easily tell when a kid's lying by the responses he/she gives. Trust me on this one. I wasn't sure when I got here. I am now. It's no fun to get caught with your hand in the cookie jar. But it's no big deal to me really. Just calling his bluff from sometime back. But I was trying to show him before he gets shitty, which general takes about one post, he ought to be more careful as he is so quick to remind others, when convenient.

You're quite clearly a Jew-bashing anti-semite. All the sexually explicit references to me are disgusting and it's why you do them.

You've been found out to be a lying moonbat.

526 rightasrain  Thu, Jan 20, 2005 9:04:18am

#524 Goodbye_natalie

One other thing. Remember that little LGF clique I mentioned in my first response sometime back. #520 is exactly what I was referencing. But I'm glad you made Light feel better. The kid's probably never experience fellatio so you might want to try that next. Help to curl his hair. No matter what Light says, no matter what he does, no matter how hypocritical or vile Light is, Thom's there for him. Sweet. Board lovers.

More sexually explicit accusations from you.

You're an internet rapist, you sick piece of garbage.

527 rightasrain  Thu, Jan 20, 2005 9:09:27am

#524 Natalie

How about me and the flock going to hell again?

Actually, religious Jews don't believe in hell, which is why we don't tell entire religions that they're going there.

Some of us do say "go to hell" because it's an expression that displays the contempt that's being felt at the time.

At times like this, I wish there were a hell for you to go to.

I think you've created your own sick hell on earth, tho, Natalie.

You're one of the sickest people I've encountered on the internet.

528 rightasrain  Thu, Jan 20, 2005 9:12:03am

Goodbye_natalie should be banned, in my opinion.

How many times does this guy get to describe the alleged conditions and activities of my sexual organs as his way of insulting me before he's gone over the top?

529 Goodbye_natalie  Thu, Jan 20, 2005 11:01:02am

Hey Liteweight,

And how many people you got to diss before somebody calls your bluff Mr. Hobbit? Consider it done.

Daddy, who by the way served in Vietnam, should have started over in the gene pool.

Like I said before, Jesus talked a lot more about heaven then he did about hell? You going to show some nerve and call him a liar too like you did out on Indy?

Sorry limpwrist, couldn't use the search engine. Needs to be a much lower level than that...record by record. For someone who claims to be an engineer (that's a joke, half you time you can add), you don't seem to know much about technology. Get LGF to add a couple of radio buttons to the search engine at the user level and I'll call your bluff...

530 rightasrain  Thu, Jan 20, 2005 11:06:10am

Other people manage to find peoples' replies here, including me.

I've looked at most of yours, and I can see that you're clearly an LLL.

You agree with people who say rightwing things here and there, but you have no conservative ideas or arguments of your own (except to let it slip once that you think "Repubs" have fragile egos.)

You're faking it in here, in other words.

You're just a run of the mill moonbat from IndyMedia who is trying to stir up trouble here.

You haven't sent me off the edge yet, but I doubt that you'll quit trying anytime soon.

It's all you're about, Nat.


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