But the major players of both parties would have you believe that our southern border security is just fine.

We need to contract Israel to build us one of their walls, all along the Mexican border.

I hate to be so cynical, and I know we should never let our guard down, but why do I think this is a set-up?

O'Reilly is right. We need to send Troops to our borders and send a clear message that this porous border sh*t ends now!

Im calling BS. Just pre-inaugaration jitters/psyops to derail any plots that might be out there... they wont attack if there is any pre-warning...

Any thoughts on what happens if they do set off a device like this or worse?

What's the retaliation?

I know there have been posts about attacking Meca but if that's the plan then why not announce it? A modern day MAD scenario.

I am not opposed to the idea, I just doubt it'll happen.

Wonder what gave him this attack of conscience, if that is indeed what it is. Of course, he'll never work in that town again.

Gives me pause that I'm just about to leave for San Diego for a job interview.

It is a blunder. The listed suspects are all known terror or suspected terror operatives. The earlier report mentioned four Chinese and two Iraqi.

Why would terrorists tell their plans to the "coyote" smuggling them into the US?

One of the stories I read mentioned the theory that these people may just be garden variety illegal immigrants who stiffed their coyote somehow, and now he is getting some revenge.

Its hard to believe any AQ would give a coyote this information.

Again, even if this is bogus, it is always important to remind people of the real threat that we continue to face from these animals.

Maybe skerry and douschebag Boxer can shift their attention from Rice and Rumsfeld for a second and start thinking about, you know, the real fucking enemy, or something, for a change.

Assholes. If there was an attack any estimates on how long before the first LLL fingerpointing at Bush?

Unreal to even think about, but you KNOW it would happen!

'Two Iraqis and four Chinese' - sounds like racial profiling.

More than likely the 'material' following them is a few kilos of coke or Mexican brick-weed.

Peacekeeper

Also sounds like the premise for a bad joke

"4 Chinese and an Iraqi walk into a synagogue..."

So why is ABC running this? Assuming it's true why is the alert coming from a news channel rather than Homeland Security? I also question the validity of this story.

#14

The rest, of course, writes itself...

I really think part of the fun these terrorists have is making threatening calls and watching the panic happen afterward. They know that we can't relax one bit, especially now.
If there is radiation in Boston, someone needs to tell Kerry some lady worth double of what Tarazas worth is waiting for him in the middle of town. Then fit him with a detector...

Boston I can do without...

The suspects: (hat tip, fiery celt)

Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani. Dates of birth used: March 14, 1974; April 13, 1974; Aug. 1, 1970. Height: 5-3 to 5-4. Weight: 150 pounds. Born in Tanzania, he uses the aliases Ahmad Khalafan Ghilani, Ahmed Khalfan Ahmed, Abubakar K. Ahmed, Abubakary K. Ahmed, Abubakar Ahmed, Abu Bakr Ahmad, A. Ahmed, Ahmed Khalfan, Ahmed Khalfan Ali, Abubakar Khalfan Ahmed, Ahmed Ghailani, Ahmad Al Tanzani, Abu Khabar, Abu Bakr, Abubakary Khalfan Ahmed Ghailani, Mahafudh Abubakar Ahmed Abdallah Hussein, Shariff Omar Mohammed, Fupi, Foopie and "Ahmed the Tanzanian."

Abderraouf Jdey. Date of birth used: May 30, 1965. Height: 6 feet. Weight: 209 pounds. Born in Tunisia, he uses the aliases Abd Al-Rauf Bin Al-Habib Bin Yousef Al-Jiddi, Abderraouf Dey, A. Raouf Jdey, Abdal Ra'Of Bin Muhammed Bin Yousef Al-Jadi, Farouq Al-Tunisi and Abderraouf Ben Habib Jeday.

Adam Yahiye Gadahn. Date of birth used: Sept. 1, 1978. Height: 5-11. Weight: 190 pounds. A U.S. citizen, this man also goes by the names Adam Pearlman, Abu Suhayb Al- Amriki, Abu Suhayb, Yihya Majadin Adams and Yayah.

Fazul Abdullah Mohammed. Dates of birth used: Aug. 25, 1972; Dec. 25, 1974; Feb. 25, 1974. Height: 5-3 to 5-5. Weight: 120 to 140 pounds. He is a native of the Comoros Republic in the Indian Ocean.

Adnan G. El Shukrijumah. Date of birth used: Aug. 4, 1975. Height: 5-3 to 5-6. Weight: 132 pounds. A Saudi native, he used to live in South Florida

Aafia Siddiqui. (Only woman of seven) Date of birth used: March 2, 1972. A Pakistani woman who studied at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

Amer El-Maati. Date of birth used: May 25, 1963. Height: 6 feet. Weight: 209 pounds. Born in Kuwait, he goes by the aliases Amro Badr Eldin Abou El-Maati and Amro Badr Abouelmaati.

Seems like a pretty odd cast of characters. It don't smell right.

The one detail that really bothers me is... the Chinese. There were a number of Chinese Taliban, and A-Q used them in the past for infiltration, but I didn't expect a Mexican "coyote" to know about that.

I think Dan Rather should vett this story.He should be able to produce some "fake but accurate" documents to back it up.

Bwahahahahahahahaha

I smell fish.

I am somewhat skeptical about this...

I mean, really, a source from Mexico? WTH?

OT:BBC Poll says most Indians support Bush

I hope, I pray this is all a hoax. At the least it should serve as a reminder to those who need it that we face cold blooded killers.

Can't be true. Boston is in a blue state, and OBL promised...

I've read reports that claimed A-Q is coming in the US from Mexico. As free as those borders are down there it wouldn't surprise me.

“They were dropped by the source at a location. He literally threw them over a fence from Mexico to the U.S. side,”

--->Simple as that.

Refusal to secure our borders while fighting the war on terror, hmm? The two simply do not go together. This is a problem which perplexes many. Of course once the dirty bomb in unleashed it might be a bit too late to wish we had done otherwise. And a bit of an embarrassment as well.

Some mistakes we can talk ourselves out of and some we can not prevent. However there are others which are not only unforgivable but worse with some common sense, may have been avoided.

I'm telling you, I just don't get it-

#19 Geepers: Sounds like a group of musicians on the way to a gig. Wait, that's been used.

"But..but...we're all progrgressives here! Why are they attacking us?"

Last words of Noam Chomsky.

I find it hard to believe that Mexican organised crime would be so dumb as to help smuggle these kinds of people across the border.

Because one sure consequence would be to totally shut down their business.

# 18 ajf:

Boston I can do without...

That is not even the least bit humorous.

Yeah, of course they shouldn't have told a coyote about their plans. They shouldn't have claimed the van deposit from WTC #1 either. Mohammed Atta shouldn't have threatened to cut the throat of that USDA woman in her own office, they shouldn't have told the flight school that they didn't need to learn how to land...
Al Queada turds have done stupid things, so that line of argument is no reassurance.

Who knows about the substance of this? I refuse to speculate. But no speculation is required to know that our borders south and north are borders in name only. We don't defend them, we don't protect them and we don't insist they be honored.

A hoax, or a diversion?

#19 Geepers

Quite frankly, these people don't look like your average Chinese.

Where is Keifer Sutherland? Send him in!

#33 Studsup

Yes, well we can all sleep well knowing that WE respect our border- we could reached over the fence and grabbed this guy, but no, some lawyer said it would violate some law.

31 RickZ

Thank you.

American Infidel (#24),

Don't know.

The "created on" date for that slide show is 1/19/05.

My grandmother used to live in North Quincy, just across the Neponset River from Boston. I had friends in Boston, although I've lost touch with the ones there who are still alive.

I know a few people might think I'm some kind of homophobe because I oppose gay marriage and the ordination of gay fruit flies to become Anglican bishops, but when I was stationed in upstate New York and used to visit my grandmother, I'd hang out with a few of my friends, a couple of whom were bisexual, and we'd go to a gay bar called "The 1270" that was lax about checking ID. The 1270 was pretty mellow, with a piano bar in the basement favored by lesbians, cool early 80s rock on the first floor, and gay disco on the second floor.

A couple of door's down was a scary looking biker gay bar called "The Boston Ramrod".

One thing I can't figure out, is why gay men like pinups of men shot from neck to upper thighs, showing crotchal areas and chest, but not the face. Most straight pinup material includes a woman's face. I think that is somewhat de-humanizing.

I once went out with some machinist mates of questionable sexual orientation from the USS Chuck Wagon when we were in homeport of Alameda, CA to a gay bar called "The I-Beam" in San Francisco.

I'm a bicoastal visitor to gay bars.

Also, once, when I was drunk in a Pinoy bar in Alameda, I almost went home with a TV Filipino-American, but as were getting ready to leave, he/she asked if I knew that he/she was a pre-op, thus saving me from a most traumatic "Crying Game" type moment.

Ajf.,. @#@@!

The thought of mayor menino talking to the national media ...I cannot help but get a laugh.

This is serious whether a false alarm or not, but still, seeing Mayor Menino trying to discuss security, terrorism, and radiology in front of a national media...well it could be a treat.

These reports are all over the place, FOX is reporting four suspects.

35 hm

Those are old suspects in the Boston area, although Shukrijumah was the one IIRC that wanted the Mara Salvatrucha to smuggle him back in. Either the Herald screwed up or the FBI thinks that Shukrijumah has gotten his old posse together again.

# 39 Luigi:

You are welcome.

#44 papijoe,

Thanks. I did remember that Gadahn fellow. He looks like they should be looking for him somewhere in the Bay area.

Personally, from what I've learned from the medical profession, I'm a lot more worried about some idiot coming over with a case of small pox to martyr himself/herself than I am some nuke.

That's a whole lot more difficult to detect.

# 41 Ed

"Ramrod" as in team Ramrod?

/Super Troopers.

#45 American Infidel

Agreed then, this informant guy should be in Guatanamo right now with panties on his head.

Don't forget that a) there are ~150,000,000 Chinese who are Muslim, b) AQ has reportedly been looking for non-Arab looking "associates".

Meow you listen to me!

Of course, out government will track down this threat, but in the meantime, our LLL judges do this:

[Link: www.aim.org...]

This just boggles the mind. Armed with this information, it's safe to say that the LLLers may be successful in killing and maiming some innocents and destroying a lot of property in DC.

If this turns out to be true, and materials or whatever are found, then Presiden Bush MUST seal the borders...I really don't give a dman about how this will affect our economy what with the lack of low income workers...who cares? I live in Houston...I will miss my lawn guys but I need more exercise anyway.

DEPORT EM ALL!

O.k. meow. I will.

#55 PP

You'd think that the Mexicans would have figured this out on their own and would be looking for AQ types.

#55 The Pulchritudinous Patriot,

LOL. Reminds me of the joke as to "know why Texas is so big? Because we wanted it that way..."

I think this is a hoax, on the other hand, would a Mexican smuggler know the difference between Indonesians or Malaysians and Chinese?

Yep, borders need to be closed but I doubt Bush will do it.
There are so many ways and areas they can hit. I live in northern Ohio and we have the biggest source of fresh water here, the Canadian border not too far away and several nuke plants on the lakes. It's like 'take your pick'.

Has the world gone completely mad? What kind of person would willingly smuggle such characters into the country? If the story is legit, the smuggler should have his eyelids sliced off and be staked to the desert floor.

This must be a hoax. Boston is in a blue state. If it's true, what a nuisance.

#58 American Infidel

and all of a sudden the WMD's that don't exist turn up in BOSTON of all places...

I'd love to see the look on sKerry's face!

#60 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades

I think this is a hoax, on the other hand, would a Mexican smuggler know the difference between Indonesians or Malaysians and Chinese?

Yep, would a Mexican smuggler know about Chinese Taliban and A-Q? I don't think so, which makes me think this is real...

Another concern I have that I believe is being minimized is some dog blowing up a refinery or chemical plant...and I think that's likely one day. Not only would that kill a bunch but drag the economy with it.

I mean, killing people is one thing but dragging down my 201K is another...would I be able to fill up my Escalade and Hummer?

Just teasing there...I drive a sports car.

American Infidel

Ever try to hire an American? I mean for pure labor? I've tried. They don't like it, can't show up on time under the best circumstances...
I have to give props to the one woman who used her one call from jail to tell us she was missing work. Thoughtful.

American Infidel...Teddy is already red faced and puffed up!

Hardly worth reporting. More black helicopter nonsense. Drudge puts it up as a headline and everybody goes into a tizzy.

Adam Pearlman!?

Isn’t this the same guy in the "your blood will run in the streets" tape from last year?
And the "Adnan G. El Shukrijumah" guy... I've seen his mug before, and the female looks familiar as well. Who are these guys that their mug shots keep showing up on TV.
Find 'em... Shoot 'em, be done with 'em

#61 Marine Momma.

The LLL will roll on the floor in laughter at this, but about 4 months ago or so, "Soldier of Fortune" did some excellent research and published a series articles about illegal transit into the country through both northern and southern borders. The threat of terrorists piggybacking on the infrastructure that traffics in humans and narcotics and other contraband was pretty well documented. People would probably be shocked to learn of the network of drugs and immigrants that comes through from Canada, and it isn't over the bridge crossings.

sorry (really) to go OT again but this is too terrifying not to report:

islam overruns russia in ~30years!

[Link: www.wpherald.com...]

"An article in Komsomolskaya Pravda this week (available online at kp.ru/daily/23441/35885/print/) argues that Orthodox Christianity is likely to continue to dominate Russian life "at a minimum for 20 to 30 years" but suggests that Russians must come to terms with the rise of Islam, the faith that now challenges and seems set displace Christianity in Russia as the country's dominant faith.

According to the paper, there are 6,650 mosques in the Russian Federation, almost 100 times the number of mosques in the Soviet Union as a whole in 1985. Moreover, in Russia today, there are now more Muslim religious educational institutions -- 68 -- than Orthodox Christian ones -- 49."

holy shit!

Twenty to one this is a hoax. Those are much shorter odds than I typically assign to cases like this.
The named suspects are not Chinese, but they obviously include more people than the coyote reported taking over the border. As for AQ operatives sharing this story with a smuggler, it is possible that they let it slip somehow.
They are not geniuses of operational security, especially if American LLL fringe-dwellers are involved. The gaps in the details point to something that was overheard rather than deliberately revealed. At that point, the coyote would naturally fear for his life and would have little choice but to go ahead with the plan.

well, I'm currently sitting in Term. E @ Logan, waiting to catch my plane back home (East Bay) and the overhead CNN starts in about some sort of terror alert, and that the mayor/governor of Boston will be on shortly. However, that's all we could hear, since they never keep the vol. up loud enough and the captions were off.

Figured that LGF would have more on the story, and I see that I'm right.

However, what's really scared me tonight is reading about Abu Ed Moran's Naval adventures...especialy the story about the Pinoy (that's one package you wouldn't want to have go off ;-)

I had the privilege of watching a highway flagman get fired one day. This is a guy with a sign that says "stop" on one side and "go" on the other. He only had to control one lane...and he couldn't do it.
I know that there are those out there who think I made that up, I didn't.

...and BTW, the TSA agents here are once again showing that they haven't a clue, as they continue frisking down seniors in wheelchairs while letting swarthy-looking males pass through the "checkpoint" unmolested...

Completely off-topic to, well, everything really ...

Most and Least Affordable Markets

Most Affordable
1. Lima, Ohio
2. Saginaw-Bay City-Midland, Mich.
3. Canton-Massillon, Ohio
4. Youngstown-Warren, Ohio
5. Cumberland, Md.-W. Va.

Least Affordable
1. Santa Barbara-Santa Maria-Lompoc, Calif.
2. San Diego, Calif.
3. Salinas, Calif.
4. Los Angeles-Long Beach, Calif.
5. Orange County, Calif.

The top five least affordable areas are all in California. Unbelievable.

Form Pits Texas Christians Against Muslims

#71 drool

If they're going to risk putting Menino on national TV it must be something serious.

OT: Ministers give approval, in principle, to army operation in Lebanon

Studsup, no kidding! There are so many areas to come into the states via the lakes! Last year there was a water scare on one of the island we have here, Put-In-Bay. It was tourist season and all of a sudden tons of people start getting sick from being over there. Turns out the water supply was bad, but this is a first for that. They claim it was a bad well or something like that, but it smells fishy to this day. A friend was there that weekend and told me a Middle Eastern man was arrested and a convicted murderer. Not sure if that has anything to do with what happened to the water, but don't think I'll go over there for awhile!

BTW - doesn't this sound like something out of a Clancy novel...anyone read "The Teeth of the Tiger?" In that scario, once they got across the border, the AQ decided to go shoot up shopping malls, with weapons supplied by drug gangs...

#31 Rick z

Well, I thought it was funny, but then I figure the story is utter h*rseshit. I don't think the WOT is being fought that way. The press is obviously clueless, and if we get another catostrophic attack from Al Qaeda, we are not going to hear about it from the press, first. AQ isn't going to target Moonbatachussets. They need that state as a staging area. That kind of goes to why I have precious little concern for the people in that area.

I would looove to see Kennedy explode, but not at the expense of Boston. I love that place.

We do need to stop tying the hands of our border guards. I know a few and they are thoroughly frustrated.

I so hope that this is a hoax. It sounds so fishy. Why would they give a coyote this info?

#81

Uh, oh, the Muslims are offended again...

Dirty Bomb threat in Ted Kennedy's back yard the day before the Inaugaration?

I think this is just a CIA/Halliburton plot to invade Canada while they are paralyzed by the NHL strike.

#41 Ed from Qatar

I'm a bicoastal visitor to gay bars.

This is genius !
LOL !

Federal and state authorities are investigating a nuclear terrorist threat against Boston after a man calling from Mexico told California police that he smuggled two Iraqis and four Chinese over the border, the Boston Herald has learned.

How much more threat info does the gov't need before it finally start putting our military on our borders?!

but... but... why BOSTON!

BOSTON VOTED FOR KERRY DAMMIT!

-whine, snivel, blah blah blah...

Zulubaby,
This is why we still rent with two incomes.

I'd die of the cold in Ohio or Michigan, so I stay.

...BTW, I've seen quite a few US Customs & MA state patrolmen walking around the terminal...more than usual (I fly out here 2x weekly)

Anything else showing on the news I'm missing out on?

If you were trying to manufacture a terrorist scare, would you concoct a story about four Chinese and two Iraqis crossing the border? I do not think so. The story rings true precisely because is too bizzare for a hoax...

If you were a coyote, you may be concerned that if terrorists manage to smuggle a dirty bomb through the border, it would be sealed and you'd be out of business.

catracks...or from taxes in Ohio.

One question that upset Dar-ul-Arqam administrators focused on perceived intolerance: "The Koran clearly tells you not to mix with (and even eliminate) the infidels. Christians and Jews fall into this category. Why do you wish to join an organization whose membership is basically in total disagreement with your religious beliefs?"

Iesa Galloway, Houston Executive Director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations said the questionnaire was "rooted in deep-seeded ignorance of the religion of Islam and the Muslim people."

They really do take us for a bunch of fools. In fact, they rely on our supposed ignorance. When it turns out that we're not so ignorant, they respond with outrage and call us racists. If that doesn't work, well, they're screwed, aren't they?

Oh Abu Ed...
I don't know what to say. I know you drank a lot in Alameda (like so many other places) but oh geez.
The horror, the horror.
Is this gonna turn into one of Abu Ed's drinking threads?

Catracks #93 -

Ditto - all I have to say is that if you haven't been to CA you probably won't understand why it's so.

Lived down South until about 2 years ago; now I live in NorCal and wouldn't think about moving back East again. Ever.

Marine Momma,

Wanted to thank you for the son's service - military service that is because some wise guys here will refer to you as a whole host of names if you aren't very specific.

I wrote a letter to our lib rag here in town to the families of the military families thanking them for being heroes too. Unbelievably, the published it.

May the Lord bless you and keep you...

Can I just say I was slightly freaked out hearing about this while listening to what turns out to be fireworks in downtown D.C.?

What, me jumpy? Nooo, what possible reason could I have to doubt our safety?

think about it,
why would 4 chinese want to blow up boston?
everybody and their brother works for wal-mart,
i havent picked up a product yet, that is not from china.
they would have everything to lose,
esp their bro/sisters jobs, and nothing to gain.

now, blowing up, mexico, sounds more sensible.

bet you 20 dollars it is fake.

#86 Murder

AQ isn't going to target Moonbatachussets.

I don't think terrorists make that distinction.

#19 Geepers:

Interesting pattern - 7 members, 1 female. Isn't that the same composition as the New York group used? What was their names, the Chappaquiddich Seven or something? The Portland group was set up the same way.

#81 Roger

Iesa Galloway, Houston Executive Director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (search) said the questionnaire was "rooted in deep-seeded ignorance of the religion of Islam and the Muslim people."

It's a religion of piss. Got it. Any relation to George Galloway? It's hard to be ignorant of Muslim people given the rate at which they explode all over the world. But thanks for your concern about our educations.

#64 Beagle

This must be a hoax. Boston is in a blue state. If it's true, what a nuisance.

Just be a little more sensitive - I'm sure it will all go away.

goodbye natalie, thanks so much for so much! I would like to contact you via email but don't see an addy on your profile.

#102 ibmkeyboard,

think about it,
why would 4 chinese want to blow up boston?

There's plenty of thugs in China, and plenty muslims too.

Oops! Lackawanna Seven. And I was wrong, it was seven men.

Here is a good backgrounder on fission and dirty bombs. A dirty bomb would be an extremely costly event in terms of clean-up but aside from the blast effects of the conventional explosives used to disperse the radioactive materials, the toll in human lives would be minimal. Of much greater concern would be an actual fission bomb, the type used on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Those (approx. equivalent to 20 kilotonnes of TNT) would be terriblly devastating to the localities affected but even if several cities were attacked, the United States could sustain them without noticeably diminishing its capacity to transform its economy into the most powerful industrial war making machine that has ever existed in the history of the planet.

If the Islamofascists want to go down that road there is no doubt that the response of the United States would not be tactical. The US has made it abundantly clear that it is prepared to use its triad. As a minimum it could reduce the entire Islamic world to a medieval standard of living long enough to allow the US economy to switch from butter to guns to finish the job with conventional forces. If it is totale krieg they want, total war will they get. They will indeed behold the Face of Shiva and their wish to precipitate their qiyama will be self-fulfilled.

The story is likely a hoax. If the informant was really a coyote, wouldn't he have access to all that neat Acme stuff?

#102 ibmkeyboard

why would 4 chinese want to blow up boston?

There are several Chinese Ughir Muslims in al-Qaeda.

O/T

Huge Explosion Rips Through Floating Barge in Chicago

A violent explosion has ripped through a barge that was floating freely on the sanitarian ship canal just east of Cicero Avenue overpass on the Southwest Side.

The back half of the barge was consumed by fire. Initial reports indicate that it was a petroleum barge.

Additional debris from the explosion has been blown quite a distance onto the Cicero Avenue bridge. Police worked to close the bridge and clear it for rush-hour traffic.

Extreme heat is coming off the barge, which has come to rest mid-channel in close proximity to power lines.

The tug boat that was pushing the barge is trying to relocate the barge or secure it in position.

It is not known what has triggered this massive explosion.

A Level 1 hazardous materials incident has been called. Firefighters are responding from all over the southwest suburbs.

Stay tuned to CBS 2 News for further details

but if they do blow it up,
one of the best positions you can take,
put your head between your legs,
and kiss your ass
goodbye.

This world is crazy (well, maybe it's just me that's crazy).
Sometimes I wish I could take a long, cold rest.

zulubaby (#97),

Iesa Galloway, Houston Executive Director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations said the questionnaire was "rooted in deep-seeded ignorance of the religion of Islam and the Muslim people."

Your response:

They really do take us for a bunch of fools. In fact, they rely on our supposed ignorance. When it turns out that we're not so ignorant, they respond with outrage and call us racists. If that doesn't work, well, they're screwed, aren't they?

Here's step one:

Qur’an 4:47 “O you People of the Book to whom the Scripture has been given, believe in what We have (now) revealed, confirming and verifying what was possessed by you, before We destroy your faces beyond all recognition, turning you on your backs, and curse you as We cursed the Sabbath-breakers, for the decision of Allah Must be executed.”

(hat tip Roger)

# 80 zb

WOW -- the top 25 is **all** Cali, Mass. and NY -- Hawai'i doesn't even crack the list

that is so scary ...

Photos of the Barge Explosion

[Link: cbs2chicago.com...]

Video

[Link: wbbm.dayport.com...]

Again, sure they's target Boston. They don't make the distinction of who voted for Bush or Kerry.

I cannot stress this enough: They do not hate us for what we do, but for who and what we are. We are the most powerful enemy of the spread of Islam, are successful and even our poorest live relatively well.

I think what our government is doing behind the scenes would frighten us. They do a lot to keep us safe.

If it turns out that we foil something real, our retaliation should be as if it had succeeded. We can't take chances anymore. I still have trouble believing a bunch of semi-literate thugs downed the World Trade Center.

OT via Powerline

ABC is "researching" a "story":

Jan. 19, 2005 — For a possible Inauguration Day story on ABC News, we are trying to find out if there any military funerals for Iraq war casualties scheduled for Thursday, Jan. 20. If you know of a funeral and whether the family might be willing to talk to ABC News, please fill out the form below

[Link: www.abcnews.go.com...]

As Powerline points out, only Iraq casualties need apply.

#113 fiery celt
holy crap! There was just an unexplained explosion last week at the Ford City mall, also on the Southwest side. They blamed it on a blown gas line, but when they dug up the gas pipes, they were still intact.

Come on, no need for border security. Don't be xenophobic now! Bush insists we don't need it. The Democrats agree. In an age of terror, let's all become libertarians on the border issue. Just open 'em wide, come one, come all. Have a gay old time. America will pick up the pieces and deal with the fall out (pun intended).

Oh, by the way. A dirty bomb hardly kills anybody. Its mostly just a way of polluting a lot of real estate and bringing economic activity to a halt in a city.

The NY Times of all people ran a very good story a year or two ago (which I've since looked for and can't find) where they documented that hardly anybody dies from a dirty bomb. For one thing, there just isn't enough radiation. Even years and years later it only can cause a handful of cancer cases.

The initial explosion would be like a mortar, and that would kill some, especially in an urban environment.

#75 Shiplord Kirel 1/19/2005 03:01PM PST

At that point, the coyote would naturally fear for his life and would have little choice but to go ahead with the plan.

A'la akbar Carlos Chacal?

What absolute scum.

ABCNews trolls for Iraq war casualties families willing to speak to them for a "special" on Inaugaration Day.

Fucking treasonous ghouls.

I never turned it on in my profile if that is what you have to do. To be honest, I've never looked to see where you do it and when I registered, I just followed instructions.

Since I left the technical world about two years ago to pursue Med School at old age, I've kind of revolted against the bits and bytes world. About all I do anymore is help the kiddies when they need something on the LAN here at home. I didn't even have a cell phone after I left corporate America. Wife bought me one at Christmas, then proceeded to hand me the monthly billing charges. Thanks, my love.

Though I find most of the clan at LGF top notch and pretty clever, there's a few bad apples that post that made me decide to leave as is...

#110

OTOH, it'd be much easier for them to get their hands on some AK-47's or similar weapons from the narco gangs once they cross the border, and go on shooting rampages in public places like shopping malls.

Especially in blue states where there is no such thing as concealed carry and the avg. citizen is defenseless...

# 116 Gee

Shh! You're interrupting Mr. Galloway's taqiyya!
:-)

#15 rabidfox

So why is ABC running this?

Why, to alert the poor suspects. Never let national security get in the way of a good story. Remember, they’re journalist first and Americans second. Or twelfth, twentieth, …

#111 Ernie G.: You get my vote for funniest post of the day!

#113 fiery celt

Oil doesn't explode. I hope law enforcement wouldn't cover anything up to keep the "perfect record since 9/11" going.

OT: Look at this picture of a Hamas terrorist - does he look like an Arab or a white guy?

#127

"OTOH, it'd be much easier for them to get their hands on some AK-47's or similar weapons from the narco gangs once they cross the border, and go on shooting rampages in public places like shopping malls."

NO. NO. NO. Weren't you listening to Senator Kerry during the campaign? Terrorists are obviously going to go to a federally licensed gun dealer, go through an FBI background check, and purchase an evil assault weapon legally. Terrorists, after all, follow all rules and regulations to the letter.

Meep, meep! Ernie.

Of all the Acme crap, I would personally like the portable hole in the ground. I wonder if they sell Felix's bag of tricks?

natalie, totally understand and to be honest I thought you were a girl...my face is redder than anything! I will thank you now for your words of help the other day. If it weren't for Charles' thoughts on the word, I'd still be using it here.
Your welcome on my son's service!

Way OT:

A little while ago either a bunch of fleeing LLLs spontaneously and spectacularly combusted, or I was just treated to an awesome fireworks display over the White House while stanidng on my bedroom balcony.

Let freedom ring!

#123 Luigi--

All true about a dirty bomb-- relatively ineffective at killing people. But the real estate/affected areas become uninhabitable for quite some time, right?

They could still shut down an economic hub that way, even w/out killing very many.

The timing of this report is ironic. There was a raging debate in the last thread from yesterday and Nodrog was singing the praises of more open boarders.

I think we need troops on the boarders with Mexico and Canada and China, unless we don't have a boarder with China. Geography was never my best subject.

# 132 C

Yep -- person of pallor fer sure (!)

R. Corrie have any brothers?
:-~

#127 pishposh4567 1/19/2005 03:35PM PST
Especially in blue states where there is no such thing as concealed carry and the avg. citizen is defenseless...

Not quite right...

When I asked the cops in NYC about getting a carry licsense, they informed me that it is mandatory concealed.

OT-
I know it's bad for my health to watch the MSM but I just flipped around the 'big' 3 networks and their 'news' shows.

Maybe I missed something but watching the first couple of minutes of the broadcasts I got the impression Bush lost the election. I am not sure how this can be since he's being re-inaugurated and all.

They are absolutely incredible .Must have been nice back in the day when the media wasn't the enemy.

Queen Esther;

#113 fiery celt
holy crap! There was just an unexplained explosion last week at the Ford City mall, also on the Southwest side. They blamed it on a blown gas line, but when they dug up the gas pipes, they were still intact.

Southside of Chicago--- Jihadi Central

Bridgeview Mosque; SoundVision : Benevolence Int'l...etc

I am sure that they will write this off as some accident, even if it is not.

That is what the Authorities have done in New Jersey.

# 41 Ed

USS Chuck Wagon

For real?

Good morning all. Light to non-existant posting today (don't cry now) as I'm up to my ass in alligators. CNN International was making a very big deal out of the Kerry and Boxer votes on the Senate committee this AM. Idiots.

...this smells to high heaven.

First off, why is he telling? What's in it for him or did he smuggle them across and then get a sudden pang of conscience? I don't think so.

And if he was paid, it would be detrimental to tell. Their brothers in 'the movement' or 'the gang' whatever it is, could come back and get him. So why is he doing this?

They couldn't have brought anything across the desert, not if it was heavy or bulky.

Are they planning to try to smuggle a dirty bomb across in a truck? Container?

Finally, how did it happen they told him so much about their plans. That just sounds too fishy. Just sayin' is all...

#125 lazytart

F*ck. That is absolutely disgusting.

137 Firebreather

All true about a dirty bomb-- relatively ineffective at killing people. But the real estate/affected areas become uninhabitable for quite some time, right?

Because we live in a litigious society we would shut it down. From the little I've been able to learn, I see no reason why one good rain wouldn't wash away almost all of it. But the lawyers and activitst among us would then start kvetching about the food chain and fish and stuff.

Bottom line -- it would cost a fortune!

#142:

I am sure that they will write this off as some accident, even if it is not.

That is what the Authorities have done in New Jersey.

What will it take to wake people up, and realize that places like Paterson and Jersey City need to be re-examined with a fine-tooth comb before something REALLY bad happens again, a la 9/11

Probably this story will ultimately be revealed to be a hoax (or, God forbid, a diversion to drain the resources of the authorities as they prepare a real attack for inauguration day tomorrow).
But that doesn't mean it couldn't happen some day. That southern border is just one of America's Achilles heels.

i disagree,
if someone has purchased a so called, nuclear suitcase, from our russian mafia bastards.
it will blow up several city blocks, and the destruction would be worse than 911.
approx 30-50,000 deaths.
but a us president would have to retaliate, and it would be the end of the world, as the islamsicks know it.

OT

In compliance with a lawsuit-inspired court order

It is quite obvious a Judge in D.C. wants to help with any planned assassination of the President of the United States.
D.C. gives inauguration data to terrorist org.

#142 fiery celt

I know it very well. I'm sure you're right.

# 132 Colt

I agree - those pink cheeks look a little too delicate for the desert sun.

OT - Michael Newdow is at it again, this time suing to stop prayers from being said at the inauguration.

"As an atheist, he cannot in good conscience attend an exercise where his government forces him to endure religious dogma he finds highly disagreeable," Newdow wrote in his motion filed with the Supreme Court. "Newdow's rights of religious freedom should be protected."

I really hate that man

Down here in San Diego I have a couple friends in the Border Patrol. The rank and file are not very happy with the higher ups in Home Land Security. In fact didn't George Bush just open a fast track lane somwhere, where PREAPRROVED trucks are allowed to cross the border without inspection. This is one area where the Republicans are shooting themselves in the foot. It's a very sore subject down here.

#80 ZB
I can't believe the area I'm home-shopping in isn't listed even in the worst 25! (Cold comfort--it's still horribly expensive.) Maybe I should move back to to Cincinnati. It's a nice town, and Catracks--not nearly as cold as Michigan.

#111 ErnieG: ROFL.

#121 QueenEsther
And IIRC there was an incident in the past couple of weeks in Indiana, plus toxic chemical road incident in SC. Probably coincidence, but...
...al-Qaeda types do NOT typically take credit for their activities until long after public speculation was rampant, if then.

Should this turn out to be a hoax, so be it. If not now, when. I've written to both of my senators about real immigration reform. We must control our borders. It is the essence of national security.

As a 30 year military veteran, I believe that whatever effort is spent by our forces to secure Iraqi borders should be mirrored on our owm soil.

Havoc: Must have been an interesting "buddy system" on your liberty calls. ;-)

#152 QueenEsther

That, and the green eyes.

blackhorse. michael moore has the entire parade route on his website. looks like alot of people want to give it all they have to get bush killed.

Going Underground, too true. They can even question people about certain things. Hamstrung. Did you see the kid they found that was tied up in a pinata? Pretty creative.

#131 Beagle
As true as it may be that "Oil doesn't explode"
The vapors from the hydrocarbon & residue are very volatile!
In fact, a half empty tank is MUCH MORE hazardous than a full one.
In a confined area...such as a recently unloaded baRGE...
a small amount of vapors along with asmall spark...possibly from a level gauge...would give this result.

It's obvious that this was a vicious act of hatred and mutilation perpetrated by Muslims upon a vocal Christian family.
The NJ police are purporting this so called robbery theory because of the fear of retaliations.
This leaves these Coptic Christians (in America) without any support or protection...or even the least of voices.

Meanwhile, the CAIR and the rest the Muslim whitewashers project the standard Religion of Peace bullsh*t, and that Islam is misunderstood. All the while knowing that these vile murderers had acted entirely in accordance with the Q'uran.

Then they 'kindly' offer members in the community to come and worship the demon god 'allah' during some highly touted 'interfaith' services.

This crime happened in America--- and the NJ Authorities and the MSM are sweeping it under the rug. ...And they are getting away with it.

NJ Muslims, Christians to show interfaith solidarityB/b>
[Link: www.baou.com...]
The New Jersey office of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR-NJ), along with other local Christian and Muslim groups, will hold a noon news conference in Jersey City to issue a call for interfaith solidarity following the brutal murder of an Egyptian Coptic Christian family.
Groups scheduled or invited to take part in the news conference include: CAIR-NJ, CAIR-New York, American Muslim Union, National Council of Churches, United Methodist Church, North American Coptic Orthodox Church, Islamic Circle of North America, American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee-NJ, and the Egyptian American Group.

The family was bound and tortured, before their throats were slit in accord with the instructions for executing nonbelievers, as detailed in the as detailed in the Koran: (47:4) "Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers, smite at their necks; At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly [on them]."

Murder of a New Jersey Christian Family
[Link: www.theconservativevoice.com...]

Sylvia appears to have suffered the worst, at the hands of the family’s murderers. An additional stab wound was inflicted on her wrist, the wrist upon which a tattoo of the Coptic Christian cross appeared, and Sylvia sustained a long gash to her chest. Fred Ayed, a deacon from the family’s church, dispelled rumors that the family’s deaths were attributed to a robbery. Ayed said: "This is not a robbery. "We found all of the jewelry in the house. They didn't take anything."

Jihad in New Jersey
[Link: www.michnews.com...]

They were Coptic Christians, an Egyptian sect of Christianity especially hated by Muslims for their refusal to convert to Islam. Hossam Armanious had received death threats from Muslims. According to a family friend, one of the threats read, "You'd better stop this bull, or we are going to track you down like a chicken and kill you.” Sylvia was especially brutalized, apparently due to the tattoo of a Coptic cross on her wrist---The girl’s throat was not only slit, but she was stabbed repeatedly in the chest and wrist where she bore the sign of her faith.

New Jersey: An Islamic Murder of Coptic Christians?
[Link: www.aina.org...]

A family member who viewed photos of the bloodbath said Sylvia seemed to have taken the most savage punishment. ---The heartless killer not only slit Sylvia's throat, but also sliced a huge gash in her chest and stabbed her in the wrist, where she had a tattoo of a Coptic cross.

U.S. Copts Association Decries Slaying By Muslim Extremists of Coptic-American Family
[Link: www.copts.net...]
The U.S. Copts Association express its outrage, shock, and disbelief at the atrocious murder of a Coptic-American couple and their two children in their New Jersey home
after father Hossam Armanious expressed "strong Coptic beliefs" ...

err, they CAN'T question about certain things. PIMF.

#140 alkmyst

When I asked the cops in NYC about getting a carry licsense, they informed me that it is mandatory concealed.

Here's the law pretty much summed up.

My uncle had a liquor store in Harlem for 30+ years, and had a business carry license which he got by having strings pulled "back in the day" Turned out handy for hm too as he did have to defend himself quite a few times.

On the same topic, here's another link that tells us that in the past 20 years, carry permits have been declining except for the rich and famous...

The terror alert has not been raised for Boston.
Boston was standing 20 minutes ago. The suburbs are as-yet unflattened.
This sounds like more hysteria than actual possibility.
This isn't a joking matter, but it would be funny to see mayor Menino fielding questions on national TV. Likeable guy, but makes GWB look like Cicero.

#125
to bad they cant leave their suitcaseat the abc news block. bring down the whole friggin building.

these news bastards are worse than any terrorist.

ITS OK.
KERRYS AIN'T AFRAID OF NO WMDs.

close the borders? You have to be kidding. its too late. we have so many illegal aliens in texas if we sent them all back home, our economy would collapse. not to mention the run on lawnmowers by homeowners who haven't mowed their own lawn since 1980. we catch a smuggler occasionally with 25-75 illegals jammed in the back of a semi. mind you, i said "occasionally". no telling how many we never even see.
terrorists don't need a mexican to get them across. just get in a car and drive on over. a wall isn't going to stop illegals, and it sure won't stop AQ.
i don't have an answer for it. i wish i did. and i sure as hell wish Bush had one. so far, i ain't heard the answer from him.

#42 Austin from Boston

The thought of mayor menino talking to the national media ...I cannot help but get a laugh.

SO true. I can't help but snicker at the thought of the contrast between Mitt Romney (R) and Mumbles Menino (D) at a press conference later. Menino is a stooge who needs a muzzle.

That being said, on a more somber note...I have to be in a Federal Courthouse for work in Boston tomorrow. I have to admit I'm a little freaked out.

I believe and pray this report is false or if the report is true the terrorists are apprended in time. I do believe it is false or as Mark Twain said about reports of his death, "greatly exxagerated". One reason I do is that the TV series, "Third Watch" is in the middle of a two parter about a "dirty bomb".
And I suspect that is the source of this story. I am not saying the network or the show's producers have come up with this story to hype their series. Just that it has inspired one or more crackports or attention seekers to call in all sorts of stories. Don't scoff, it has happened beflore. To give one example, back in the early 1970s there was a made for TV movie thriller about a bomb on a jet passenger plane that was set to go off when the plane dropped below 20,000 feet. (kind of like the bus in "Speed" except in this case it could be called "Alttuide"!)
Whenever the movie was shown, police and airports were flooded by crank calls about bombs supposedly planted on airliners. It got so bad that eventually the movie was not shown either on network or local TV! Good Lord willing it is the same with this "dirty bomb" story.

#160 RebTex

True. I'm blogging on half a brain right now. The worst-case scenario would be gasoline vapors.

I'm still trying to figure out why the police in New Jersey think a robbery is incompatable with a jihadi murder. Duh. They always steal. Mohammed was a caravan robber.

This whole Boston Bomb deal is probably a diversionary tactic.
Most likely just to test the "system".
And one other point...
Any coyote worth his salt DOES NOT have a conscience.
I say this from having traveled frequently to my neighbors to the south.
I've seen "the types" & they would sell anyone off in a second.

Just remember to keep being afraid, Americans! It's so much easier that way, dont you think!

They wraped a kid inside a pinata? I guess I won't assume mine is filled with candy next time.

"If it's just candy, then we'll just string it up eh? Where's my bat"

[This in no way is really advocating the hittling of kids. The smugglers should be strung up and whatever money falls out is mine to keep.]

There have been at least several news articles on AQ in S America (in some tri-state area - can't remember the names). There are occasional articles about foreign Muslims croosing the southern border (Pakistani woman a few months ago - I think she travelled back & forth dozens of times).

OT: Just heard that Paul Volker, the head of the committee looking into the 'oil for food' scandal, is on the Board of Directors of Banque Parabec, the same bank that brokered the deal.

I think that there is something that everyone is overlooking when we talk about closing the border. While the border is enormous, the vast majority of these lands are not empty by any stretch of the imagination. Here in Texas there are a lot of pissed off farmers with lots of guns who could do a lot to close off illegal entry into this country if the government would support them instead of hindering them at every step. This would be to utilize the militia in its truest sense (and not in the Koresh rascist nutball sense). While our modern, professional armies and border patrol agencies are certainly very professional and well trained, they are of necessity small.

That is the hidden genius in the founder's reliance upon militias. While often not as effective as a professional army, it has the advantage of being both (1) huge, and (2) able to be on scene very quickly.

I'm not saying we should be shooting little children coming across the border, but the smugglers have gotten so brazen that the local farmers often know their paths and know when they are coming across. Trouble is that the feds. do nothing but threaten the locals about 'vigilatianism.' Instead, we should be backing up these people and let them defend their homes, because in so doing they would be defending us as well.

#110 Hulegu Khan

Here is some information on "dirty" bombs that would I trust more than a LLL site.

U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission

This is horseshit - bad police work on the part of the FBI. I hope this isn't the best work the FBI can do. Crying wolf is the mark of inexperience not that of a "special agent."

An unknown informant and uncoroborated evidence is a story that should never have made the news.

Possibly a diversion ala the false alarm call that precedes a bank robbery.

#173
you are right.
the so called fear factor.
people afraid to step outside their house, in the dark to take a piss.
as winston churchill said,
all we have to fear, is fear itself.

but if you do, have fear, then they have you by the balls, and no one will be safe.
typical communist warfare.

I'd would hate to live right on the border. I'd never feel safe.

Another thing about this bomb threat; this week of all weeks, wouldn't you think if you travelled all the way from Mexico to Boston to blow it up, you'd travel a bit further and blow up Washington with the President at his Inauguration? I would...that's if I were a serious bomber. Why blow up some Irish bar when you can get the President and the Whitehouse?

The best way to close the borders is to punish those that employ the illegal financially - not send troops to the border.
Deport the illegal from anywhere in the US and charge the Mexican government for the transportation.

Those that try to protect everything protect nothing.

19 January 2005; 6:05 EDT: Sources close to the Northeast Intelligence Network have verified initial, unsubstantiated reports that authorities are searching for a radiological or "dirty" bomb and nuclear material in the hands of 6-8 men - 4 Chinese, 2 iraqis and others - in the area from Boston to Washington, DC. Multiple sources have indicated that authorities suspect DC as a likely target to disrupt tomorrow's inauguration.

A law enforcement source, speaking under the condition of anonymity, stated that authorities are searching for 6-8 men, reportedly from Iraq accompanied by suspects of Asian origin- with science backgrounds. More information is being developed...

FROM ANALYSTS: The long-term objectives of the terrorists must be considered. Enough warnings with no result will facilitate "terror fatigue" among Americans and lull people into a false sense of security.

From The world's most alarmist web page.

Hey, didya ever notice how Bush cranks up these stories right before an election. 2008 is just around the corner ya know.

/blame artist on the skids

OT--greatest Boston novel in recent memory: "Another Bullshit Night In Suck City."

OK, I had to plug that one. On with the moonbat-batting!

#185 RFK

Nah, the Rovian-Zionazi conspiracy concocted all this as an excuse for closing the border to undocumented Dem voters workers.

/channeling different Moonbat.

#184 Ed

Islamic Terror sites claiming "The Horserace is on - while they chase the horses, the bird will fly"

(From your link - NorthEast Intelligence Network). I think about that all of the time. It happens all the time - create a diversion, attack somewhere else. Then again, cranks make bomb threats every day. The sad thing is

AND POOF

MEDINA & MECCA, the holy cities of the false prophet are NO MORE.

#184 Ed:

Well, if it's in print on the NTN then we known it ain't so...

...but then again, they are overdue to get a story right.

#175 Baldy:

You're thinking about the area around where Brazil, Uruguay, and Argentina meet...it has been the home of a large expat Syrian Arab community for decades and known AQ and Hizb. terrorists have looked to them for funding and safe havens...

Speaking of S. America, I'd think that people need to be following the current Colombia/Venezuela sabre rattling going on, and especially pay attention to the crazy little colonel in Caracas, Hugo Chavez. He's the one who's been jetsetting to Tehran and kissing up to any world leader that's anti-American.

What makes it all interesting is that we buy about 15% of our oil from Venezuela yet for the past 6 years we haven't done anything of substance to change the regime there. This could this come back and bite us in the a$$ soon enough.

A couple of weeks ago there were some posts that inferred that if we were attacked with WMD, President Bush would retaliate with nuking both Mecca and Medina. This was in response to OBL getting permission from a group of islamic scholars from Saudi Arabia, to use nuclear weapons against US cities.

Doesn't this make Saudi Arabia a terrorist state. Why aren't we going after the clerics. Those followers of the false prophet, who have been led down a path of murder, terrorism and into the armpit of HELL.

#125 Lazytart

Watch that trash talk young lady !

Your link is down, expired, expunged from history, Kaput,

but the pick on the ad "Say Good-bye to Cellulite" is pretty cool.

Why would the terrorists pick on Boston, the home of people (Kerry, Kennedy, etal) sympathetic to their cause? It sounds either like a publicity stunt to deflect attention away from tomorrow's Inaugural or deliberate disinformation. By the way how did you like the way Kerry and Boxer teamed up to vote against Condi?

So, allegedly some terrorists hire a guide to get 'em into America and then LEAVE HIM ALIVE?

Huh. If their job is to mass murder, why leave a witness that can blow your cover (so to speak) prematurely?

There's probably unexploded bombs walkin' around all over the country with bodies of "guides" left behind in the desert.

#18

Terrible sense of humor...if you want to call it that.

OT Judge forces DC turn turn over police security preps to ANSWER

radicals forced DC police department to hand over sensitive documents related to security planning for tomorrow's Presidential Inauguration.

Link to above story

#194 Swampwoman -- "So, allegedly some terrorists hire a guide to get 'em into America and then LEAVE HIM ALIVE?".

I'm not vouching for the bomb story but let me suggest this answer to your question. If I am a professional engaged in the business of being a "coyote", I would make damn sure that (1) my clients were all unarmed; and (2) I was seriously armed and every one of my clients knew it. The terrorists might have liked to have cleaned up their tracks, but it is possible that the terms of their transport didn't provide either the means or the opportunity.

#177 happycynic -- "(and not in the Koresh rascist nutball sense)."

I see to recall that Janet Reno was responsible for the assault on that Church using armor and real assault weapons and that innocent men women and children were incinerated. The government threatened harm to the children as leverage in the negotiations. So who exactly was the real "nutball" in that scenario? I submit it was Janet Reno, the same person who also ordered troops with assault weapons to abduct a free Cuban child named Elian at gunpoint and send him back to a totalitarian state.

Bubble
still there? Here's the posts and links on the RPS

the sound of her tongue cleaning the department chair's boots

A dash of toadying

Academic Whores for Tenure

Ariana
That is a very significant story and should rate a major string here at LGF.
Note that the story mentions Intenational ANSWER's links to the cesspool of the Brazil-Argentina-Paraguay border. This has been mentioned earlier tonight as well. Until recently, this area was very isolated and was known primarily as a haven for Nazi war criminals. In recent years, it has become a hotbed of narcotics trafficking, money-laundering, communist agitation, and, alarmingly, Islamo-fascist infiltration. If one were to be cynical, it might seem that the Islamos have simply taken over the Nazi networks as their originators have died off.
My own knowledge of the area is first-hand but not all- inconclusive. In 1980, there was not a single mosque in Paraguay and only a handful in all of Brazil. Today, there are several in the town of Ciudad del Este alone, the focus of illegal activity in the region.

There is a secret war being fought in the area. US troops cannot operate in the area because of the paranoia generated by decades of hysterical propaganda.
CIA contractors have had some modest success in rooting out larger bands of combined Islamo-fascist/narco terrorists, but the difficulties are very great.
Paraguayan forces have been aggressive at times, but it is easy for Islamic and coca cash to buy traitors and this has to be taken into consideration.
On the Brazilian side, the government of Castro-slave Lula daSilva naturally shows little interest in pursuing the terrorists, preferring to suck up to Iran among others.
To be honest, there is a strong feeling in the Brazilian security forces that high-level traitors would doom any decisive action in any case. Some of the Argentine forces have taken a hard line on the infiltrators, driving some into Brazil, but many influential Argentines are openly sympathetic to the Islamos.
Israeli agents, as always, are rumored to be active in the area.
The best hope is that Lula and his band of thieves will be voted out of office and replaced by a government that will decide to press the issue in the field.

#201 Tony Sousa

Agreed

Any net discussions might help publicize this situation and possibly focus greater awareness.

That is a very significant story and should rate a major string here at LGF.

I'm also concerned that Code Pink is involved in the disruptions tommorrow. Their network with many brutal dictators allows an open door

Down here in sunny Juan Diego, we have lots of border problems, and lots of lazy college students. Tell the kids at SDSU that there are some rifles (w/starlight scopes) and kegs of beer at the border and the problem will solve itself...

...as long as they point the right way.

The Next World War Has Begun

In case you haven't noticed, or if you have been living in an underground mine shaft the last few years, the next World War has begun.

In the last World War, it was the totalitarian Nazis who were out to conquer the world and subjugate it's people, beginning with the despised Jews, Gypsies and homosexuals. Had they not been stopped by a massive, concerted effort by the Allies, they might well have taken over half the world, with the other half dominated by their partners, the Japanese and Italians.

In this World War, which most of the West does not want to admit is happening, the totalitarians who want to conquer the world are Muslims, followers of the Islamic faith. In this, they are simply following the instructions, sacred ones, they believe, in the Koran, their Bible, which calls for the conversion or elimination of all "infidels". That means Jews, Christians, Buddhists and anyone else not a Muslim.

After 3,000 humans were incinerated and blown to smithereens in the Twin Towers on 9/11, all the Western leftists, do-gooders, appeasers, molly-coddlers and politicians fishing for votes began a campaign to convince us that Islam was a religion of peace. Untrue. It is a violent, hateful, and duplicitous collection of teachings and beliefs. Perhaps a small percentage of practitioners want to live in peace with the rest of us, but collectively, the great majority support murder, rape, pillage, suicide/homicide bombings, beheadings and other vile means to achieve their goals.

Israel has known the truth of this reality for 56 years and Jews have known this far longer.

Now, slowly but surely, the doubters are in for a rude awakening, and not just in Iraq, where Americans and Brits are being slaughtered daily. I'm talking also about signs of this war beginning to show up in America. Yes, in the United States of America.

In New Jersey, USA, four people - a married couple and their two teenage daughters - were tied up and had their throats cut, so they would bleed to death slowly. It was done because the father had said something unflattering about Islam; the murderers were out to defend their "peaceful" religion and wreak revenge on these Christian "infidels". Unbelievable? Read the news story for yourself at [Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]

The police and the politicians, afraid for their own lives and those of their families, are trying to make it look like a robbery. Balderdash. This was a slaughter right out of the Koran, which calls for the conversion or execution of all "infidels". The motto - you are either a Muslim, or you are dead.

Look around the world; see who is waging terror against humanity. Wake up to reality. We either fight them to the finish now or our kids will have to; your kids and mine.

fiery celt, we know. :)

#157 Colt  

That, and the green eyes.

I've seen Arabs with eye color other than brown/black, but the pink skin seems really out of place. I recently saw a tv interview w/ a student from Bir Zeit (Terrorist U., West Bank) who had olive-colored skin with blue eyes. And Prince Abdullah of Jordan has greenish eyes too... fwiw.

OT - a bit

Good article by Daniel Pipes

CAIR Whines

#204
give em hell.

I was near 128 (95) about twenty miles away from Boston yesterday
and it was rush hour and snowing. I had been working. And I was
getting gas,...I was almost empty and also looking for a nearby Staples, to get some ink cartridges.

I turned on the radio just in time to hear, as Jay Severin was signing off, that our govenor had left D.C. to return to Boston, to deal with a terrorist threat. I asked the guy in the next car for directions to Staples...and then asked if he new anything about this terrorist threat.

I had been working in an office and hadn't checked Drudge or the news for only about 3 hours.

"Oh, you mean the dirty bomb?"

I said, "Umm, thanks, that's more than I knew a minute ago."
He was eating Chicken McNuggets in his car, I guess deciding to eat his food before stepping out into the snow to refuel.

I was thinking that since Boston is the Hub of the Universe, it was only a matter of time before the Islamofascist's picked
us. How clever of them to pop up here, since DC was on lockdown.

Jay said something earlier in the day, making an analogy between the ripples of water caused by throwing a pebble in the water, and the ripples of reaction caused by the attacks on 9/11.

The farther away from New York and DC ( and remember also PA), the less likely people in Chicago or L.A. felt the same way about the attacks. Also the ripples being if you had lost a family member on 9/11, then a friend, then people you knew etc.

Wow, this post is getting long. To sum up for many and I include myself, 9/11 was a transformational event.

The mystical dreamers of Al Qaeda may believe in their vision
of the R.O.P., but I like to think of them trying to sleep with one eye open, as a group of special forces paint their rat hole with a laser. After all, it's snowy and cold up in those mountains, and these guys just want to bring a little heat and light into the jihadi's dark dream.

Americans just can't accept that a bunch of neo cavemen look at them as sheep waiting to be slaughtered.