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NEU Professor Slimes LGF Again

Wed, Feb 2, 2005 at 9:33:02 am PST

Northeastern University economics professor M. Shahid Alam, who wrote an execrable article comparing the September 11 hijackers (favorably) to the American Minutemen, is apparently going to be the subject of a Bill O’Reilly show on anti-American professors, and he’s so distressed about it he had to write another article for Counterpunch and slime LGF: M. Shahid Alam: FoxNews Puts Me in Its Crosshairs.

I published an essay, “America and Islam: Seeking Parallels,” in Counterpunch on December 29, 2004. A day later, I began to receive nasty and threatening emails, all at once. These were orchestrated by a www.littlegreenfootballs.com. Shortly thereafter, other right-wing websites got into act, posting excerpts from the essay; these included jihadwatch.org, campuswatch.org, frontpagemag.com, freerepublic.com, etc. The messages posted on these websites were equally vicious, and some of them, containing explicit death threats, were ‘kindly’ forwarded to me.

For the record, there were absolutely no “nasty and threatening” emails “orchestrated” by Little Green Footballs. Click the first link above, in fact, and you will see that I specifically urged LGF readers to be polite if they chose to contact the professor—but Professor Alam, on the other hand, replied to an LGF reader’s non-threatening email with a vile antisemitic slur.

I answered Professor Alam’s absurd, factually incorrect charges in more detail in an earlier post, the last time he lashed out at us in Counterpunch for exposing his words: NEU Professor Slimes LGF, Jihad Watch. Note in this post that Professor Alam has been accused of antisemitic statements previously, and escaped consequences by claiming that his NEU email account had been “spoofed.”

UPDATE at 2/2/05 9:44:53 am:

If you should wish to contact NEU officials to express your feelings about the professor’s views, Professor Alam has kindly provided that contact information in his Counterpunch article linked above. As always, please be polite.

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1 Former CNN Watcher  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:34:53am

Prof Alam = a lame Prof

2 rabid fanatic  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:37:58am

Just one more university my daughter's NOT going to.

3 Thom  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:38:41am
On September 11, 2001, nineteen Arab hijackers too demonstrated their willingness to die - and to kill - for their dream. They died so that their people might live, free and in dignity.

Yeah. The freedom and dignity that is Islam.

Why is this animal still on American soil?

4 Thom  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:40:12am

This what those 19 terrorists died for.

M. Shahid Alam is as good as a terrorist.

5 TotallySirius  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:41:24am

There may be a case for slander/libel charges here.

Prof Alam says there was an orchestrated effort here at LGF to make death threats against him when in fact there was none.

6 foreign devil  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:41:42am

Shaa...who?

7 Innismir  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:41:57am

Once again, as a graduate of Northeastern ('03), I apologize to the whole of LGF for this asshat. Really, the professors are /all/ like him.

(Interestingly enough, I did get a call two nights ago from the alumni assoc and explained to the calldroid why I would not give NU money, with names included)

8 David Simon  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:42:50am

Get a load of the cover of his book. Typical: Islam's problem isn't its backward, psychotic practioners; it's the United States and Israel.

9 Megan  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:43:07am

Nasty e-mails? The horror! Muslims would never think of doing anything like sending nasty ot thretening e-mails./sarcastic

Wonder what he would have to say about the Christian family from Jersey City who came here to escape Muslim persecution and wer murdered, probably by Muslims? Guess he supports the robbery theory.

10 rorschach  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:43:34am

M. Shahid Alum, meet the 1,000,000 candlepower spotlight of LGF.


They can lie, but they can no longer hide (it).

11 Geepers  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:43:50am
The messages posted on these websites were equally vicious, and some of them, containing explicit death threats were ‘kindly’ forwarded to me.

Liar.

12 MartinG  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:44:11am

Isn't that enough to classify him an enemy propagandist or combatant? I know it's not that easy, but if, says, a foreign communist wrote something equally nasty, he's be deported very quickly.

13 octopus  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:44:12am

#3 thom "Why is this animal still on American soil?"

Here he is, with his pals, doing "a play" about American capitalism-imperialism on a dunghill in Brazil. I smell Tony!

14 KWH  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:44:22am

I guess these idiots think if they say a lie enought times, a Genie will pop up and make it true. These sad people live in some messed up reality in an alternate universe somewhere left of never never land.

15 Globular Cluster  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:44:28am

Didn't Edward Said used to lash out at counterpunch as well? It seems to be the chic last-chance place where misfits and screwballs lash out.

16 foreign devil  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:45:53am

Express your thoughts to Shahid in person [be polite--no cursing and ad hominem attacks--that loses your argument for you before you begin].

m.alam@neu.edu

17 parkman  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:46:46am

Alam did get a talking to from the "Diversity" office of NEU.. For whatever that's worth..

18 Bubble Girl  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:46:52am

Caught in the crosshairs of Truth, owee, ouch, ow, ow, truth hurts... Professor Chicken..

19 Bunker Buster  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:46:54am

I never cease to be disgusted that so-called institutions of "higher learning" so eagerly give a bully pulpit to purveyors of this kind of moral obscenity.

20 Buckaroo  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:47:13am

"Professor Alam has kindly provided that contact information in his Counterpunch article linked above"

Eh, it's still not worth me having to visit counterpunch ...
:-)
:-)

21 Poitiers-Lepanto  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:47:41am

I quote the gentleman:

On September 11, 2001, nineteen Arab hijackers too demonstrated their willingness to die - and to kill - for their dream. They died so that their people might live, free and in dignity.

I can't wait for the day when thousands, hundreds of thousands of American Minutemen will fight back.

He's not a human, he doesn't even deserve my insults.

22 octopus  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:47:51am

[Link: homepage.mac.com...]

Oops...forgot to post this pic!

23 AlexM  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:48:21am

Very typical.

These pro-jihad professors eventually fall back on their last line of defense--free speech. But others are NOT allowed the same freedom in their view.

They can spew whatever sort of hateful bile they want--that's their free speech. But if you criticize them that is NOT free speech at all but an attempt to kill free speech.

Only in academia can people not see such incredible hypocricy of this attitude: "We talk. You listen. And shut your damn mouths."

24 David Simon  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:48:35am

#7 Innismir -

Once again, as a graduate of Northeastern ('03), I apologize to the whole of LGF for this asshat. Really, the professors are /all/ like him.

Didn't Northeastern employ that Conrad Worrill asshole? (The one who defended mayoral aide Steve Cokely for saying that Jewish doctors were infecting black babies with the AIDS virus.)

25 Buckaroo  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:48:37am

# 17 p

"Alam did get a talking to from the "Diversity" office of NEU"

What exactly is that -- "please, please stop" in 10 different languages?
:-)

26 surfer dude  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:50:27am

what a piece of crap!

This guy is all about "kill all the infidels, but don't call me names or I'll whine like a baby". Typical. He's just a "hide behind a skirt" kinda guy. And a college professor to boot.

He's also, surprise surprise, a Jew hater. Levitt's letter was a "how dare you" kind of letter, not a hate letter. Learn the difference, MORON.

If he can't tell the difference, he's either an idiot

or

a dick brain

27 ggt  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:50:39am

Ok, I just signed-on and haven't read all the posts. I do have a question. Do all these LLL jew-haters realize that George Soros is a jew? Doesn't that seem a little bent?

28 Barkhorn1x  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:50:56am
They died so that their people might live, free and in dignity.

...unless you're a woman, or gay, or a non-Muslim, or an apostate.

Barkhorn.

29 TimK  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:51:20am

I just love these thin skinned Profesors. It does seem like the Arab/Muslim professors are particularly thin skinned.

Sorry Professor, the media has changed. The main stream media is no longer the gate keeper of what US citizens can read. We are onto you and your ilk.

30 Spiny Norman  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:53:11am

#27 ggt

Do all these LLL jew-haters realize that George Soros is a jew? Doesn't that seem a little bent?

Soros is a textbook example of the useful idiot: the self-hating Jew. Very, very useful.

31 Killer Tomato  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:53:12am

Wow - this 'death threat' thing is really getting out of hand... first Ward, now Alam... maybe they should start a club!

/puhleez

32 Mr. Pulpo  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:53:29am

OT: The Weekly Standard has an interesting article on the Daily Kos.
Taking Kos Seriously

33 Sarah D.  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:54:16am

OT

Jesse Helms is worried that a left-wing, undisciplined and ethically challenged former President of the United States will become the head of the UN.

34 Smitty  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:54:25am

I hear the "death-threats" thing from lefty journalists too. There's been a few in Canada - I won't bore you with the details. But how often do they actually produce these "death threats" for the world to see? Where's the proof? It seems to me that it's a pretty good way to draw attention to one's self.

OTOH, when a guy like Mark Steyn gets threats (and I'm certain he gets many), he just laughs it off.

35 Globular Cluster  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:54:34am
If he can't tell the difference, he's either an idiot

or

a dick brain

Oh dear, hate speech!

Seriously, why do these people get so bent out of shape by a good old fashioned insult? People call me a dick brain all the time and it doesn't phase me.

36 yesandno  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:54:34am

Hate speach disguised as intellectualism.

Thanks to Charles and all here, their hate speach does not go unnoticed or unchallenged...

37 Abu Messerschmitt  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:55:14am

I think a LLL would claim that "please be polite" is a code-word for "death threat." Whenever LLL's can't find any actual evidence that right-wingers are racist, hatred-spewing, or whatever it is we're accused of "code words" to communicate our secret hidden racism and hatred.

For example, "Good morning," is right-wing code for "Let's put hazardous waste dumps in minority communities." "Would you like some coffee?" is right-wing code for "Let's ship the homos and [bigoted word]s off to the death camps." "I'd like to bang Paula Abdul" is right-wing code for "Nice job sabotaging Wellstone's airplane. Hail Zion!"

38 Shammer  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:55:40am

I wonder if he contacted CAIR?

/nevermind

39 ggt  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:57:25am

The academics are just pissed because in the USA they aren't at the top of the food chain. Here you make it because of what you DO, not because of what you KNOW. How many of these Phd's actually PRODUCE anything? Do journal articles add much to the GDP?

We (taxpayers and stock holders) dump MAJOR money into their coffers for research in hopes that someday it will result in a product that people will buy--thus creating jobs.

Do the academics for one minute ever consider the number of families that may be earning a living somday as an outcome of their research? When some everyday normal person comes up with a good idea, goes with it and takes it to market and becomes a success, the academics think we need to redistribute wealth.

40 eeevil conservative  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:57:27am

Hey there Lizardoid Minions!

I heard a great idea on the radio this morning.

TELL CONGRESS TO GIVE THE WORLD THE FINGER TONIGHT AT THE STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS!

I have a link to email the Speaker of the House (Dennis Hastert) on this!

I posted this on last thread-- but it seems everyone left and came over here!

LOL!

41 foreign devil  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:57:43am

#13 octopus:

"dunghills in Brazil"?

Must be 'Slothnor'!

'THE QUAGMIRE ON SLOTHNOR!"

"The year is 2456. The human colonies on Mars have been invaded by giant, laser-visioned tree sloths bent on crushing humanity and forcing the survivors to work as slaves in the massive dung mines of the planet Slothnor. In a last-ditch effort to save our species from extinction, the brave humans launch a counterattack on the Sloths' home world. Le New York Times (headquartered in Paris since 2018) blares in a bold holo-headline "Disturbing Echoes of Vietnam Conjured by Earth Aggression."..."

[Link: www.nationalreview.com...]

42 guzziguy  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:58:12am

#7 Innismir

My graduate school university got a similar speech this past week. They called up wanting a donation. I told them to call me again when they'd bulldozed the newly opened [bigoted word] prayer room that has been added to the campus.

43 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:58:24am

Sounds like the standard cry of an academic caught in the spotlight for an anti-American rant: "I'm getting death threats and people are trying to take away my free speech!" Yet they always utterly refuse to bring forth any of these "death threats" as proof, instead screaming louder.

Is there a list out there of what universities harbor these sort of professors? I'd like to know if I should start rethinking my decision to apply to ODU next year.

44 Spiny Norman  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:58:32am

#39 ggt

The academics are just pissed because in the USA they aren't at the top of the food chain.

Bingo!

45 surfer dude  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:58:47am

#28 Barkhorn 1x

or a 14 year old muslim girl whose father "thinks" is having sexual relations,

or a different "kind" of muslim (Mahboob! you have shaved your beard, I must kill you now!)

46 ggt  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:59:33am

#33 I worry about that too. Hopefully the rest of the world will continue to hate us so much that they wouldn't consider an American for Coffee's job. They don't call him Slick Willy for notin'.

47 Killer Tomato  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:01:07am

#39, #44

Some of them shouldn't even be ON the food chain. Half of them probably couldn't think their way out of a paper bag.

48 buxfan75  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:01:12am

Im am the Hoch he refered to in his weak attempt to lash out at LGF and the Jewish community. He implies that my last name is of Jewish origin and that I am therefore biased. Let me be clear that I am NOT Jewish. My last name actually is Swiss/German. And, by the way, my email was not hate filled. I called him a coward and told him that his evil plans will never succeed. If that constitutes hate then I wonder what he considers a bombing of civilains buses. Is that HATE?

49 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:03:22am

OT:

Tim Blair has a great satire of the leftist UK rag Daily Mirror, reflecting their opinion of the Iraqi Election.

"How can 8,054,097 Iraqis be so stupid?"

50 parkman  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:03:56am

Minutemen = civilian militiamen who volunteered to openly fight uniformed soldiers in order to defend their homesteads against aggression...

9/11 Terrorists = miserable, whore-baiting, bar-hopping Islamic hypocrites who orchestrated a sneak attack against as many unarmed civilian non-aggressors as they could in order to make a religious statement...

Any idiot who tries to equate the Minutemen with the 9/11 Terrorists is a filthy scumbag...

PERIOD

51 ggt  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:04:46am

#30 Spiny --George as a useful idiot. When some people say that the jews are trying to take over the world--I think they mean him. The whole thing is more bent that I can fathom.

52 ggt  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:05:50am

I've been enjoying watching Tim Blair on C-SPAN. The House of Commons is better than Saturday Night Live.

53 Poitiers-Lepanto  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:06:09am

Mmmmh.
I don't think this guy, nor Churchill and many others like them, are

"thin skinned".

I think they are starting the noisy phase of the attack and they start it by trying to deny us the right to defend our Culture , our Freedom, our Country.
From now on any voice that will yell against the islamofascists and their commie friends will be labeled 'fascist".

We have already seen all this, fifteen years ago or so, in France.
When the illegal immigrants claimed all the rights of the world.

54 bblatt11  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:06:58am

I assume by hate mail he really means everything that doesn't agree with his opinions. Either that or he REALLY didn't understand the nature of all those "special" extender spam emails he gets.

55 EE  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:07:46am

M. Shahid Alam, a professor at Northeastern University, apparently has a very limited view of freedom of speech. It's for himself; it's not for others. It doesn't include the right of people to criticise him, because if others exercise their right of free speech then he claims that that removes his freedom of speech.

Shahid Alam apparently is a devotee of the ideology of jihadism. In most every society, there is the notion of a just war. An exception would be a pacifist society, but these are rare. But for the devotees of jihadism, the bar for jihad is very, very low. There is the constant feeling of victimization. As Qutb, the theoretician of radical Islam wrote, the mere fact that someone is a non-Muslim is an affront to Muslims, victimizing and insulting Muslims just by their kafir status, and therefore deserving of the sword of jihad.

And the Saudi-Wahhabis justify armed jihad just because they oppose the existence of non-believers. Look at the sword on the Saudi flag, under the Shehada. It's the flag of jihad, to force people to convert or become dhimmis or to be murdered.

So it is that Shahid Alam glorifies the terrorist massacre of 9/11. For this proponent of jihadism, there is no jihadi terrorism too cruel and barbaric to be considered as part of the jihad bag of activities.

It's not that there is no such thing as a just war. There is. But Shahid's moral equivalence between a just war and the most barbaric cruel acts of jihad terrorism is a phony equivalence that rings false.

As for the right of free speech, I think that he illustrates the very opposite of a tolerance for free speech by denouncing any criticism of the treasonous things that he has been saying, things that give aid and comfort to America's radical Islamist enemy.

56 Studsup  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:08:19am

#2 Rabid Fanantic -- "Just one more university my daughter's NOT going to."

Same here. Even though NEU came out high on the list of "Best Fit" colleges for my daughter based on the Princeton Review college search program, it's off the list. Certainly the poor academic work of Alam (his analysis of the American Revolution is so wrong that it reflects poorly on the University's own judgment of talent) was offputting. But that's not the main reason (heck, I'm already paying grandly to have one of mine attend the school of "a million Mogadishus"). The reason is that the University is not only backing him on his poor scholarship and his hateful comparisons, but mostly because they refuse to act on his bigoted email. That failure to act suggests to me that at NEU a Jewish student or someone with a Jewish sounding name can expect unfair treatment there, and NEU will ignore it.

I'm not Jewish. But for all I know, Irish Catholic names are on some NEU hate list too but that I just haven't learned of it yet. I don't want to take that chance and there are plenty, yes plenty, of competing universities out there.

NEU didn't make our cut. Their loss, not ours.

57 beblebrox  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:09:34am

Nasty emails? Why would I bother slaming a whiney fool? First of all I save my rhetoric for those who can still be saved, secondly I do so with irrefutable logic, not insults and threats.

58 levi from queens  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:10:05am

Is the original article no longer available? I tried posting back via LGF and got :

Cannot spot the passed ref IV0412-2565 in the DB

Given that he denies the content of his article where he cheered the murder of my neighbors, it would be valuable if somebody can make the entire piece available on line.

59 Thom  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:10:16am

#55 EE

M. Shahid Alam, a professor at Northeastern University, apparently has a very limited Islamic view of freedom of speech.
60 RoughRider  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:10:42am

OT continuation from Monday:

THANK YOU, lizards, for your prayers and support during my family's recent medical crisis. My FIL went in for an evaluation today... first time he's gone to a doctor in at least 30 years. Bloodwork and CT scans were normal and they recommended he see a neurologist for additional testing. Thank you for your concern and God Bless.

61 sixstringslinger  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:10:58am

Hmmm, funny isn't it how libs like professor Alam are all about "free speech" until it's directed at and critical of them.

Get over yourself professor.

62 skoi  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:11:44am

#43 Targetpractice

Is there a list out there of what universities harbor these sort of professors? I'd like to know if I should start rethinking my decision to apply to ODU next year.

Hate to say it, but most of them. I've read that even that bastion of evangelical Christian education -- Wheaton Illinois-- is teaching its students about "deconstruction theory" to use in their theology and Bible classes.

The sad thing is, that these hate America professors were mentored and brought into the system by people whom they (the new guys) would never even allow into their grad. departments because they wouldn't be extreme enough in towing the hate America line. The guys who were the PhDs/professors in the early sixties (in American history at least) might have been critical of America, and the idea of American exceptionalism, but they lacked the hate and vitriol their disciples have spread throughout higher education.

63 hs  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:12:50am

Simply adding a disclaimer is not enough if there are past incidents of communications threatening violence.

Those past communications put you on notice that violence threatening emails are a possible result of you actions.

64 Killer Tomato  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:13:35am

Well, NO WONDER the good professor doesn't have even a remote clue about history... he's an Economics professor...! (so why doesn't he shut his yap - couldn't he publish a paper about oh, I dunno, Soros trashing the economies of so many... oops - what WAS I thinking?)

65 Bob's Kid  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:14:00am
If he can't tell the difference, he's either an idiot...or a dick brain

What's the difference?

66 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:14:25am
67 Bubble Girl  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:14:40am

#32 Mr Pulpo

I read the Daily Standard article on KOS, did I miss the part where KOS was paid quite a bit of money from Dem's running during the election? Is the guy who wrote it in love with KOS because he seemed to be awestruck or smitten with him.. Just wondering...

68 surfer dude  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:14:55am

#48 buxfan75

You are right. That is not a hate letter. He is just a wimpy, thin skinned LLL that wants to kill all the infidels.

Many Germadic names are confused with or are similar to Jewish names. Haan, Beck, Hoch, Leibowitz (wait, I think that one is Jewish)

There is nothing wrong with being Jewish, in fact, if I were Jewish I would wear it as a badge of honor. Like it or not, biblically speaking, Jewish people are the top of the food chain. Why do you think they are hated so much?

69 parkman  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:15:13am

Somebody has GOT to get a copy of the antisemitic email Alam sent to Dean Leavitt to FOX News PRONTO...

Fox might actually run it...

70 beblebrox  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:15:58am
is teaching its students about "deconstruction theory"

interesting. Back in my Catholic High School days (mid '80's) we were required to take a class called "Problems in Belief". The purpose of the course was to esentially point out all the errors and contradictions in the Bible in an effort to stress the importance of "faith" in religious matters. The only thing they suceeded in doing was to create an entire class of agnostics.

71 Smitty  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:16:17am

I think dick brain is pretty harsh.

72 DakMan  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:16:35am

Hey, Shaheet-head Alam:

FY and the donkey you rode in on.

73 ggt  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:16:40am

Wheaton, IL. The land where Evolution is the "E" word. Downtown anyway. The rest of the city is rather nice.

74 hornet  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:17:14am

The prof. is DDD (deceived, demonic, and dillusional). Why he is allowed on USA hallowed soil to rant and lie to his students is beyond me. I thought this is what they teach in the mosques, not universities as well.

75 GoatGuy  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:17:24am

Hey goats... I did my duty and sent the good perfess'r a long email.

However, I was very polite:

Prof Alam,

I see the parallel that you cite, yet I am caught [and cannot escape] from a subtle difference. If you would reply, I would appreciate it.

The difference I see is that the American Militia of 1770 was fighting for the establishment of America as a democratic and free nation from the taxation, governance and oversight by a foreign-power-at-large, whereas the insurgents of Iraq are fighting ... but for what? To establish a free, fair and uniquely middle-eastern country of greatness, beauty and multicultural harmony?

I think this is precisely what the "American Occupier" is trying to grow in Iraq, actually. They're certainly not trying to oppress any sub-culture, to diminish her (Iraq's) greatness, her history, her beauty or her strength. The election, although widely cited as a sham, actually did something unique to the fabric of Middle-Eastern thinking: it allowed 7,736 people to run for local and national chairs, and something on the order of 6 million people to vote for them. I think this is MORE in keeping with the ideals of the 1776 Minutemen than whatever it is that the insurgents are espousing.

Again, I didn't mean to tax your time, sir. I appreciate your opinion, and I would sincerely like to hear what you think the insurgency is really fighting for. If it is solely "getting rid of the occupier", then that may be enough ... but it seems too thin to be a plank that would have wide support by the populus.

We'll see what comes back.

GoatGuy

76 sixstringslinger  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:17:27am

How about:

Lame-brain. No-brain. Brain-dead?

77 Bubble Girl  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:18:17am

#70 beblebrox

LOL - That's what happened to me, and total distrust of authority figures..

The only thing they suceeded in doing was to create an entire class of agnostics
78 KWH  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:19:27am
I think they are starting the noisy phase of the attack and they start it by trying to deny us the right to defend our Culture , our Freedom, our Country.

I agree. Just like kennedy, boxer and the rest showing their looniness. I believe it's an act to make hillary look more center. It's a ploy, act, misdirection. The LLL (spit) are smart, don't underestimate them, but hung up on their same old tired, America hating agenda.

79 mikeyslaw  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:19:59am

"orchestrated"
Charles, if lgf was an orchestra, you couldn't get Yankee Doodle Dandy out of it!
This site is full of people who speak their own minds, so many diverse opinions that the last comments posted to a thread generally have nothing whatsoever to do with what the original subject was even about.
Do we sometimes "gang up" on some asshat? Yeah. Is it generally because we perceive them to be remarkedly asinine, or even evil. Yeah. But we are also kind-hearted (someone may post about someone who is ill, and people will tell them they are praying for that person, which i think is pretty damn cool), and a lot of the people who post are damn intelligent. A hell of a lot smarter than me. And well-read.
As for Alam, i read his article, twice. he is overtly anti-simetic. I took particular exception to his statement that "They (Americans) demanded vengeance for the world they had lost, a secure world, a haven, eternally protected from the other world they should be forever free to ravage. And they are still not satified, with more than 100,000 Iraqis and tens of thousands of Afghanis dead." I haven't felt the need to ravage anyone in quite awhile, although Alam is bringing out many of my ravage tendencies.
This guy is so full of hate and anger it spills out of him like vomit. He has no place in academia. In short, he is, dare i say it, a jihadist and spreader of hate.
of course, i could be wrong.

80 Big Al  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:20:24am

Article on Daily Kos on Weekly Standard Site

Wondering if any of you guys saw this:

[Link: www.weeklystandard.com...]

Charles, any comments on this? Speaking for myself, as someone relatively new to the Blogosphere, is what this Kos guy has to say really that impactful?

81 JohnSteele  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:20:32am

The more I learn about Islam the more I have come to believe that is is basically antithetical to western civilization.

I have been reading this (10 Myths of Islam) and the deeper I get the more I come to realize that true believers in this "religion" do not belong among the rest of us.

Taken at its face value Islam is a doctrine of destruction and oppression. It is little wonder that most of the Islamic world is stuck in the 7th Century. It's birthright is poverty of body, mind and soul.

After wading through this and other documents about Islam I can only conclude that for the most part fortunately very few people actually believe most of Islam's teachings; they are just mouthing the words.

82 Athos  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:22:26am

O'Reilly has now found this topic, and David Horowitz's efforts to expose it - and has locked onto these moonbats like a pitt bull on a porterhouse steak.

Knowing that they are wrong and intellectually dishonest in their approaches, these academia moonbats will do the only thing they know - attack the messenger and attempt to discredit the messenger to weaken the message.

That might have worked 5 years ago - but not today. It's a different world, different environment, and these irresponsible people in academia will learn the same hard lesson that Rather / Mapes have learned, that Eason Jordan will learn.

I will predict that our lizardoid leader, will be invited to participate on O'Reilly's Factor (TV / Radio) within the next 6 months just as he does on Medved, Hewitt, etc.

83 TMF  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:22:47am

So move to fucking Saudi Arabia, you piece of shit. Why is it so complicated?

Im sure they pay well.

84 beblebrox  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:23:12am

#77 Bubble Girl

You got that too? In the '70's I was wrecked by "new math" (can't add, subtract multiply or divide), new measurement (Metric system, can't measure didtance or volume in two systems!) and finally New Religion. You're right about the authority thing. I spent many years locked in nilistic dislike and distrust of virtually everything simply because it was.

85 mikeyslaw  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:23:36am

#81 john
you have it just about right.

86 surfer dude  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:23:47am

#71 Smitty
#76 sixstringslinger

How about "doofus brain"? I call my golden retriever that all the time and he doesn't seem to mind.

87 sixstringslinger  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:24:56am

Horowitz was awesome on O'Reilly last night. We need more of him in prime-time.

Anybody hear Victor Davis Hanson on Laura Ingraham radio show this morning? Great interview.

88 AG in Houston  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:25:31am

Surfer dude

There is nothing wrong with being Jewish, in fact, if I were Jewish I would wear it as a badge of honor. Like it or not, biblically speaking, Jewish people are the top of the food chain. Why do you think they are hated so much?

We Jews are not the top of the food chain but equal to all.

The hatred of Jews is a disease that simply cannot be explained.

89 EE  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:27:25am

#59 Thom
It's a desert Islam view of freedom of speech, maybe, but there is also a long-lost tradition of ijtihad, independent thinking, that the reformist Irshad Manji wrote about.

If the ordinary people of Iraq can get the courage to vote in the millions, when they can clearly see an advantage of having a normal democratic society, even though the jihadi terrorists threatened to create a blood-bath, then maybe there is some hope that much of the rest of the Muslim world can throw off the blood-lust for jihad. I have no hope for this jihadist professor, though.

90 W-lover  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:27:56am
"I'd like to bang Paula Abdul" is right-wing code for "Nice job sabotaging Wellstone's airplane. Hail Zion!"

LOL! By the way, I'd like to bang Paula Abdul. ;)

91 Bob's Kid  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:28:46am
My graduate school university got a similar speech this past week. They called up wanting a donation.

Hmmm...now I know what to tell Berkeley next time they call me for money...90% lefty profs?

Don't think so.

92 surfer dude  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:29:20am

#82 Athos

"like a pitt bull on a porterhouse steak"

Excellent imagery! I will use that one in the future for sure.

93 Tanker J.D.  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:33:43am

Sorta OT and sorta disturbing

Weekly Standard is calling Daily Kos "by almost any measure, . . . the most successful blogger in the business."

The article says he gets 400,000 page view a day compared with the puppy blender's mere 200,000.

Problem is: Kos is the only game in town (the blogosphere) for vicious moonbats. There are a plethora of conservative bloggers. The conservatives just seem to be dividing their audience more widely...

94 Athos  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:34:34am

#87

No missed it, but thanks for the heads up. Laura is on some stations that stream later in the day (WABC NY for one), so I will try to catch it then.

What I wouldn't give for a panel discussion with VDH and David Horowitz on one side, and Ward Churchill and Alam on the other. Talk about an intellectual deathmatch.

I'd bet that Churchill / Alam wouldn't even show.

95 Photios  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:35:09am

These American hating Leftists™ are living in a land of complex overlapping fantasies. The first is the "courage" fantasy. By charging that they are threatened with their lives, they can live the fantasy of the courageous hero who "speaks out" against overwhelming opposition. The fact that they live and "work" in colleges and universities where their peers all agree with them and where their "ideas" are not unusual is not material. Their fellow professors reinforce them in this fantasy.

The other fantasy is that of the "Hero of the Revolution". These guys would love to see their image on banners Che Guevara style, and love to be talked about admiringly by their fellow Leftists™, all the while condemning the Country that gives them their livelihood, their freedom, and their security.

It seems that the intellectual rigor that was common when I went to University is no longer enforced. The arguments of these America hating Leftists™ would never have held water in the schools that I attended in the 1970's (Illinois Wesleyan and Southern Methodist Universities).

Very sad indeed.

+Photi
OT, John Leo is always a good read.
LIBERALS KEEP MISSING THE POINT, and read the comments by the attacking moonbats too.

96 templar  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:35:15am

This guy and the civilization the defends are like every other cockroach. They infest places that are not theirs, destroy what they cannot create, and are constantly looking for new ways to infiltrate. Shine a light on them or their words, however, and they scurry back to the filthy basement from whence they came.

97 IowaInfidel  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:38:21am
On September 11, 2001, nineteen Arab hijackers too demonstrated their willingness to die - and to kill - for their dream. They died so that their people might live, free and in dignity.

Just what were their people going to die from? How did he know they were going to die? So 9/11 was actually a preemptive strike? That makes preemption acceptable? And why the problem with the US ousting Saddam then?

So many questions, so little brainpower in the a**wipes to supply answers...

Please, somebody enlighten me!

98 Crusader  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:38:32am

Off-topic:

I know somebody mentioned it in a thread yesterday, but if you're going to post links, please make sure they work!

99 W-lover  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:39:03am
The conservatives just seem to be dividing their audience more widely...

It happens in the elections too.

100 Quilly Mammoth  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:39:18am

Alam on Saddam:

Saddam’s unnatural crimes trouble us, however, not because we feel empathy for his victims. His crimes predict trouble for us. If he can kill his own kind how much more willingly would he kill us? In Scot McClellan’s version: “any person that would gas his own people is a threat to the world (read the United States).”

Of course, Saddam might plead innocence to this charge. “You’ve got it all wrong about the people I kill. The Kurds I killed are not my own people. They are not even Arabs, and, worse, they wanted to break up Iraq and create their own independent Kurdistan. What would you do to your Blacks, Amerindians, Hispanics or Asians, if they took up arms to carve out independent states of their own? Were not the Southern whites your own people? But you killed a half million of them when they took up arms against you in the 1860s. More recently, you killed your own kind at Waco.”

Did Alam, in this essay, just say that stopping slavery in the South was an act of Imperial Agression?


another bit:

Imperialism, militarism and wars create their own rationale. In time, Islamist enemies were elevated and magnified, with help from the Zionists. Rogue states stepped out of the shadows. The swamps began to spawn terrorists. Weapons of mass destruction proliferated. Sagely Orientalists suddenly awoke to an Arab “democracy deficit.” Islam, they declared, is misogynist, anti-modernist and anti-democratic. The civilizing mission was Arabized. The musty odors of jingoism, militarism, racism and religious bigotry infested the air. Like a godsend, the attacks of September 11, 2001, galvanized America. Imperialism and racism rode into town, cheek by jowl, hand in hand.

Of Course! America is evil because of those danged old Zionists who have caused the whole mess!

And exactly where is the statement "Islam, they declared, is misogynist, anti-modernist and anti-democratic." wrong?

The entire "opinion" is a mindless rant. It serves no purpose, makes no point other than to throw out every condemnation possible on the land he calls "his country", with no goal other than to prove his claim that America wants an "Empire".

101 Smitty  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:39:58am

#86 surfer dude

LOL. My Dobermann sometimes gets "dumb ass".

102 surfer dude  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:40:18am

#88 AG in Houston

I did say "biblically speaking"

From a biblical standpoint, the hatred of the Jews has an easy answer.

103 Luigi  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:40:26am

Old PR man's addage

There's no such thing as bad publicity.
104 ratbert  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:40:34am
For the record, there were absolutely no “nasty and threatening” emails “orchestrated” by Little Green Footballs.

I do not know Charles personally. However, having been a denizen of this blog for a while, LGF, in my view always conducts itself in an aboveboard manner.

105 scoreboard44  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:40:55am

#88 AG

Come on. Take the compliment. It's probably the only nice thing the guy will ever say. Being a non-jew, I happen to hold the people of Jewish faith in very high regard. Even though I am new at being a Methodist.


And I too would like to bang Paula Abdul.

Still hating the French.

106 sgumfemfe  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:42:36am

I just wrote a letter to North Eastern regarding this moron after being invited to apply there when my LSAT results were released to them. Here it is:

M.J. Knoll-Finn
Assistant Dean and Director of Admissions
Office of Admissions
400 Huntington Avenue
Boston MA 02115

Dear Ms. Knoll-Finn,

Thank you for the letter I received from you about applying to Northeastern University. I am writing to let you know the reasons I will never consider attending your university.

Recently, an economics professor named Dr. Alam wrote an article which he published on the internet comparing the terrorists who perpetrated the 9/11 attacks favourably to the Americans who first fought the British. I quote the article: “On September 11, 2001, nineteen Arab hijackers too demonstrated their willingness to die - and to kill - for their dream. They died so that their people might live, free and in dignity”. The despicable content aside, my brother Dean Levitt, emailed him to question this view and although it was not a hateful email, Dr. Alam’s reply was “Why is it that the only hateful mail I have received is signed by Levitt, Hoch or Freedman?” If you would like to see the emails that were exchanged please contact me and I will forward them to you in full.

I can only imagine the unfair treatment of those students in his classes unfortunate enough to have Jewish last names. Northeastern University obviously is content to employ anti-semitic terrorist apologists who I can not trust to treat me fairly because of my religion and name.

Sincerely,

Gary J. Levitt.

I hope it makes my point.

107 sgumfemfe  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:43:20am

It was never responded to.

108 surfer dude  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:44:59am

#104 ratbert

I agree...I listened to Charles on the Micheal Medved program and he seemed like a real gentleman.

109 ratbert  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:45:57am

#30

Soros is a textbook example of the useful idiot: the self-hating Jew.

Like a kapo.

110 scoreboard44  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:46:27am

#106 Levitt

At a way to shoot him right in the heart.


Nice letter. God I like it when idiot terrorists whom are called professors get their proverbial "Heads" handed to 'em.

No pun intended...really.

111 oldengr  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:46:35am

Did I read it wrong or is Alam calling the LGFers leftists?

" . . . will make all kinds of outlandish accusations that will resonate well with the left- and Muslim-hating members of his audience. . . ."

112 Q  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:47:38am

AG (#88):

We Jews are not the top of the food chain but equal to all.

Actually, being Jewish is simply a particularly severe case of being human.

113 ratbert  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:47:46am

#33

Jesse Helms is worried that a left-wing, undisciplined and ethically challenged former President of the United States

Clinton is a middle-aged fratboy.

114 scoreboard44  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:47:49am

Charles was on Medved?

115 Innismir  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:50:12am

#106 sgumfemfe

Whether if falls on deaf ears or not, you sir, rock.

(Sadly, I think it will be ignored)

116 parkman  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:50:26am

#106 GET THOSE EMAILS TO O'REILLY AT FOXNEWS Oreilly@foxnews.com NOW!

117 sgumfemfe  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:50:35am

The "free speech" the Alam is talking about is forgetting that freedom of speech also entails the freedom to endure the consequences of that speech, voiced by other individuals - freely.

This North Eastern professor (I shudder when I call him a professor) and Columbia's Massad think free speech is something only they have the right to.

118 bender  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:50:56am

7 Innismir -

I know this isnt going to help - but did you know that on the other side of the park, Boston University actually has people on faculty that they allow to write for the National Review?

119 GoatGuy  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:51:55am

Beblebrox, et al [truly OT] ...

I too was almost a 'victim' of the 1960's and 1970's New Math. Got over it, went to the good U.C. Berkeley, did Chem and Physics.

However, in the decades since, I've been struck by one irreducible fact: the 'metric system' is flawed by being enormously rational, but impractical on a 'human level'.

All across Europe today, one buys donuts, biscuits, eggs and croissants "by the tens". No more dozens. Same for all the news articles coming out of Europe... "tens of people were killed". The old units of dozens, scores ... are gone, yet they were so practical. 10 is only divisible by 2 and 5. 12 is divisble by 2, 3, 4 & 6.

I've gotten into heated arguments with my professional French Chef [a teaching professor, le Cordon Bleu] over the supposed superiority of metric in cooking. Haughty argumentum reigns in describing how much more accurate it is to weight flour, weigh salt, weigh sugar ... yet when it gets right down to it, lodged deeply in the head of these fantastic [no ridicule intended] french chefs, are the 'practical measures' that they need day to day. They still use teaspoons, tablespoons, cups and pints (or their french equivalents) all through Europe. They just remember what each covers: a teaspoon of sugar is about 5 grams, a cup of flour is about 150 grams.

Now the fun part: i just obtained (after dithering for the last 20 years) one of those cute but massive Italian pasta-rolling machines. With a handle and all. It came with a recipe book that was useless (1 recipe - hah!) so I also purchased the very highly acclaimed "Pasta!" book by Eastman Press. Beautiful full-color pictures, produced in English by an Italian cooking school.

So I go to the basic pasta recipe, and learn that it calls for 300 grams of flour, 3 eggs, 22 milliliters of olive oil, 1/2 gram of salt. I tell ya ... I don't know grams from graham crackers, so I get out the scale [thinking, where on earth do Europeans keep all these scales in their kitchens?], and begin measuring.

The 300 grams of flour exactly corresponded to 2 American cups! The 22 milliliters was exactly 1/8th cup, the 1/2 gram of salt was what I would call "a large pinch"...

So my conclusion is this: that the numb lemmings of Europe converted the "standard recipe" (2 cups flour, 3 eggs, 1/8th cup of oil, and a pinch of salt) into something that only a chemist (or eurolemming) could follow.

And I'd bet anyone that 101% of all those old italian cooks are dipping into their urns of flour with a cup, and measuring out teaspoons of this, and pinches of that. No scales, no graduated cylinders, no foolishness.

Told you it was off topic. I think metric is great for science, industry, shop, engineering, architecture, and everything but mercantile commerce and day-to-day living. The practicality of a 'foot' cannot be overstated: almost all men have one or two that is pretty 'near a foot, shod. Pretty much all of us have a thumb-to-knuckle distance of an inch. That a meter is one ten-millionth the distance from the north pole to the equator, going through Geneva is lovely, but I'm having a hard time pacing out the 10,000,000 meters. LOL

GoatGuy

120 sgumfemfe  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:53:19am

Innismir #115 and Scoreboard 44 #110:
Thank you. I hope - I know - it will make a difference. My brother and I are determined to stop people like him and excersize OUR freedom of speech.

121 Innismir  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:54:06am

#111 oldengr

" . . . will make all kinds of outlandish accusations that will resonate well with the left- and Muslim-hating members of his audience. . . ."

It can sound like it, but it can also be parsed as:

will make all kinds of outlandish accusations that will resonate well with the left hating and Muslim hating members of his audience.
122 just_hangin_94546  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:54:08am

Unreal.

What about those of us that consider his comments to be that of the enemy? Oh yeah...I forgot...that is freedom of speech. It is only "hate" speech if you question his views or call him on his crud. Sheesh...

Time to bombard the University with my comments...all polite of course!

S

123 JohnSteele  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:54:58am

#117 sgumfemfe

One of the more serious failings of the left, and now of the jihadi apologists, is believing that just because there is a Constitutional right of free speech that ther is also some sort of Constitutional protection against being offended.

When Bill Maher lost hist TV program after the sponsors pulled out following his remarks about the 9/11 terrorists not being cowards I pointed out to my younger daughter that the right of free speech is not accompanied by a right to have a TV program with which to exercise it.

124 Bubble Girl  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:55:24am

Tanker JD #93

I was thinking the same. There are very few moonbat roosts left...

Problem is: Kos is the only game in town (the blogosphere) for vicious moonbats. There are a plethora of conservative bloggers. The conservatives just seem to be dividing their audience more widely...
125 zulubaby  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:55:25am

CounterPunch is a comfortable spot for all the Jew-haters to gather, the really toxic ones, who believe that 10 Jews are running the world. They should all be medicated or something.

126 sgumfemfe  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:55:33am

Persistence alone is omnopotent: Go get 'em guys.

127 AG in Houston  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:57:08am

Biblically speaking, Moses should have taken a right at the Red Sea to Saudi Arabia and not a left to the current location.

Saudi Arabia is the real land of milk and honey.

I thank you for the compliment, but the reason I frown upon such a wording is for the simple fact that the Jews matter not.

It really disturbs me when a media personality comments on "Jewish-Americans."

What the fuck is that? We are just Americans. Judaism is not a race, it's a religion. There is no difference between you and me, surfer-dude, biblical or otherwise.

However, I do thank you for being on the side of the Jewish people in the worst times since the 30's. I truly believe that the test of a person's soul is what side he/she falls on in our current struggle.

You, surfer-dude, have a good soul.

128 Bubble Girl  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:58:09am

Beblebrox

All that, and a fear of Nuns...

129 AG in Houston  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:58:59am

Zulubaby,

Ten Jews are running the world.

Me
You
Charles Johnsonberg
George Bushbaum
Condoleeza Ricearoniman
Paul Wolfowitz
Richard Perle
Ariel Sharon
Donald Rumsfeld
Jerry Seinfeld

130 sgumfemfe  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:59:11am

John Steele #123:

Amen and nicely put. I don't know why this HUGE gap in logic persists today - I mean, most - ahh, some - of them must have attended elementary school right?

My parents always told me:

"Don't argue with people who don't have a seconary education."

131 zulubaby  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:59:25am

Q (#112)

Actually, being Jewish is simply a particularly severe case of being human.

Brilliant and so true.

132 Sergio  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:59:31am

If his name is "Shahid" shouldn't he relish being "in the crosshairs"? Isn't the glory of Allah at stake? Why doesn't Shahid go ahead and martyr himself in the studio - I'm sure it would be inspiring to his students thinking about jihad as a future career.

133 Innismir  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 8:59:32am

#118 Bender
but did you know that on the other side of the park, Boston University actually has people on faculty that they allow to write for the National Review?
Well... no... but... they are from BU...

(Nope, nosiree, no crosstown rivalry going on here, I am not bitter about our repeated beanpot [Boston Hockey Tourney] losses at all. Nope Nope Nope.) :)

134 Innismir  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:00:00am

Gah! Slipped and didn't hit preview!

135 surfer dude  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:00:05am

#105 scoreboard44

I say lots of nice things...

136 zulubaby  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:00:07am

AG in Houston, and my mom. That's 11. Rock on.

137 JohnSteele  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:00:45am

#128 Bubble Girl

Yeah, you gotta wath those Nuns. They were the original 'rap artists'; rap a knuckle here, rap a knuckle there, the good ones packed a mean ruler :-)

138 sgumfemfe  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:01:05am

A G in houston:

Very funny!

;-)

139 Thom  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:01:15am

#119 GoatGuy

Actually, the meter is defined (in 1983) as the length of the path traveled by light in vacuum during a time interval of 1/299,792,458 of a second.

</pedant mode>

140 oldengr  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:02:09am

#121 Innismir

Ah, you are right! Thanks.

141 ratbert  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:02:58am

#119

So I go to the basic pasta recipe, and learn that it calls for 300 grams of flour, 3 eggs, 22 milliliters of olive oil, 1/2 gram of salt. I tell ya ... I don't know grams from graham crackers, so I get out the scale [thinking, where on earth do Europeans keep all these scales in their kitchens?], and begin measuring.

Thanks GoatGuy! You've inspired me to try your pasta recipe tonight. Your travails with the metric/cooking nonsense reminds of my experience with a Chinese cookbook written in Chinese and English.

How many cups are are there in a kilogram of flour anyway?

142 JohnSteele  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:04:26am

#141 ratbert
...
How many cups are are there in a kilogram of flour anyway?


Oh, about this many ...

143 EW1(SG)  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:04:29am

#112 Q:

Actually, being Jewish is simply a particularly severe case of being human.

LOL! Beautiful.

144 parkman  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:04:30am

Man!.. It's all coming together now!...

Ten Jews run the world... And ten is a dozen in the metric system!...

And the Dirty Dozen trained in FRANCE!... (didn't they?)

And the metric system started in... FRANCE!...

And FRANCE buys the Palestinian organs harvested by Israelis!...

Maybe Al -Jazeera is right!...

145 sgumfemfe  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:04:37am

The title "Dr." as it is attached to Alam is just an abbreviation of "Drivel".

I called the school and asked.

146 simplesuzie  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:05:06am

Oh boo hoo!
It's the whole freedom of speech thing all over again. It's only freedom of speech if "they" are the ones talking.
Give me a break!

147 Bubble Girl  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:06:04am

Poor guy, it's rough when Free Speech comes back in spades.

148 sgumfemfe  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:06:34am

Parkman. Stop before you cleverly orchestrate another hate campaign of LGF operatives. ;-)

149 Tanker J.D.  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:07:06am

Houston AG/ ZB

Can I be in the Kabal?

"Tankerstein"?

150 surfer dude  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:07:24am

#127 AG in Houston

Thanks...

151 Tanker J.D.  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:08:05am

Bubbles: good afternoon.

How are you? I'm enjoying some LGF and lunch...

152 Bubble Girl  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:09:02am

#137 John Steele

LOL

Yeah, you gotta watch those Nuns. They were the original 'rap artists'; rap a knuckle here, rap a knuckle there, the good ones packed a mean ruler :-)
153 AG in Houston  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:09:15am

Tanker JD

You are hereby banished into the land of Moonbatistan for even suggesting your participation in the above-top secret world of Jewing.

154 Bubble Girl  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:09:49am

Tanker

Hi Tanker, me too. :)

155 Photios  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:10:27am

Ok, this link worked when I posted it, here is another one.

John Leo is one of my favorite writers.

Liberals keep missing the point

Sun Jan 16, 8:06 PM ET

By John Leo

In my ceaseless efforts to discover how liberals think, I have a great advantage: I live in Manhattan, where everybody is liberal, so opportunities for fieldwork are boundless. Over the holidays, I discovered that a relatively new argument about terror is becoming popular: The next terrorist attack on America, if it comes, will likely be minor and tolerable.

I was assured that a dirty bomb is the most likely weapon and that it would probably do no more damage than an industrial accident. So not to worry. The real problems are fear, panic and violations of civil liberties -- not terror.

We had a fair amount of fear-is-the-real-enemy rhetoric during the presidential campaign, combined with almost airy dismissals of the terrorist threat here. If this notion becomes conventional on the left, the Democrats stand a good chance of losing the next four or five presidential elections.

Here are some other themes in liberal conversation, Manhattan division:

# A near-total inability to admit substantial progress in racial relations. As racism keeps fading, the left seems determined not to notice the improvement. Instead, we see more and more reports on "subtle," "veiled" and "unconscious" racism. When good news becomes too obvious, reporters often ferret out a negative angle anyway, or simply conjure one up.

On Dec. 13 at Slate, Mickey Kaus caught The Washington Post offering a gloomy version of a very good set of economic indicators for blacks, including the fact that the portion of black households making $75,000 to $99,000 quadrupled between 1967 and 2003. Blacks are creating new businesses at a pace quicker than whites, going from 621,000 starts in l992 to 823,499 in l997, according to the latest census figures. "Naturally, WAPO thinks the picture is bleak!" Kaus said. Naturally.

# Behavior doesn't count. John Kerry said that a million African-Americans were "denied the right to exercise their vote" in 2000 in Florida. Not so. Several media investigations, and even an assessment by the (then) leftward Civil Rights Commission, rejected this charge. What Kerry should have said is that a large number of Florida voters, many of them black, did it to themselves by mismarking or otherwise botching their ballots. This is sad, but it wasn't "disenfranchisement" or "denial of the right to vote."

Similarly, if minorities are "overrepresented" in prison and "underrepresented" in college, this is deemed to have nothing to do with the crime rate or lack of preparation in schools, because behavior doesn't count. If the numbers are wrong, it's society's fault.

# Bush got re-elected because Americans are stupid. Many Democrats now refer to themselves as "reality-based," meaning that they are neither "faith-based" or "unreality-based" like those irrational Republicans. A couple of days before the election, I chatted in the green room of the Lou Dobbs show with a prominent liberal, who kept saying, over and over, that Bush is a liar and Americans are dumb. This is not the way to build a Democratic constituency that can win.

There is more...

+Photi

156 Plato  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:11:25am

I think that the blogosphere is changing. I hope so. Hopefully we've been through the stage of F#$% this and F$&@ that and one person or another should be shot or something stupid like that.

As part of a growing (up) experience, I hope we all can email and discuss without threats, violent speech, and uncouth posts. I've been through it and I've found the best thing is just to express what we think in as least an offensive way as possible.

The bad guys are getting exposed as never before. Let's be the good guys.

157 Tanker J.D.  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:11:47am

AG in Houston

NOOOooo...! Not Moonbatistan - heck, that's worse than D.C.!

158 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:12:55am

#119 GoatGuy

That a meter is one ten-millionth the distance from the north pole to the equator, going through Geneva is lovely, but I'm having a hard time pacing out the 10,000,000 meters.

WHAT?

When I was in high school they told me it was Paris. Paris, damn it!

159 Bubble Girl  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:13:26am

#155 Photios

Another amazing statistic. Liberal Candidates just make up stuff as they go along. And deny it when caught.

160 Claudia  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:15:15am

# 106 sgumfemfe,

Very good letter. I hope many more people will write.
C.

161 Bubble Girl  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:15:27am

#156 Plato

The bad guys are getting exposed as never before. Let's be the good guys.

But, we already are, the good guys...

162 merovign  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:16:42am

#63 hs

So what you're apparently saying is that no one is allowed to say anything critical of anyone (or, let's be honest, a liberal) for fear that a third party may send an ugly e-mail?

You realize the criticism is directed at a man who justified deliberate and targeted mass murder of civilians not directly involved in a conflict?

That makes you loopy, did you know that?

The minuteman analogy has more holes than a warehouse full of Swiss cheese. It's pathetic, and insulting to the intelligence of cockroaches, should they ever learn to read.

In other words, it's disingenuous, as is his (and your) fear of reprisals. Passive-aggressive. Oppositionally defiant.

You know, BS.

163 zulubaby  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:17:35am

Tanker J.D. (#149)

Can I be in the Kabal?

You'll have to speak to Maine's Michael. Tell him I sent you.

164 Thom  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:19:17am

#158 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Actually,

"the so called Meter of the Archives was based on a measurement of a meridian between Dunkirk and Barcelona. A platinum bar with a rectangular cross section and polished parallel ends was made to embody the meter. The meter was defined as the distance between the polished end faces at a specified temperature and it was the international standard for most of the 19th century."

[Link: www.mel.nist.gov...]

</increasingly irritating pedant>

165 zulubaby  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:19:56am

sgumfemfe (#106)

Excellent. You made your point without being rude.

166 Florida Lady  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:25:29am

Just found out that my daughter had this idiot last spring at NEU for Macro Economics. Although she said he did not bring his politics into the classroom - at least when she had him for a teacher - she said his politics are pretty well known on campus.

She wouldn't have been influenced by him anyway - she's a staunch conservative. However, lots of her fellow undergrads would have been, if they weren't already moonbats. As Rush says, "young skulls full of mush."

If my daughter WAS influenced by him, I'd not pay another dime of tuition to NEU. But they've got a great business co-op program that I'd be loathe to pull her out of at this time.

I've assuaged my conscience somewhat, however, by contacting NEU today and informing them they will never get a donation out of my husband and me, as long as this numbskull and others like him are teaching on that campus.

I'm so glad O'Reilly is doing this expose'. He has gone off the deep end on lots of other issues, but he is adament AND right on this one. Good for him. I'm sure it will be pretty thorough, though unsurprising for most of us!

167 WriterMom  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:25:44am

Did this guy ever reveal a single "death threat" in writing, or an electronic version. Such a liar-another Islamic Master of the Whopper.

168 hm  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:26:19am
I began to receive nasty and threatening emails, all at once. These were orchestrated by a [Link: www.littlegreenfootballs.com...] Shortly thereafter, other right-wing websites got into act, posting excerpts from the essay; these included jihadwatch.org, campuswatch.org, frontpagemag.com, freerepublic.com, etc. The messages posted on these websites were equally vicious, and some of them, containing explicit death threats, were ‘kindly’ forwarded to me.

Notice the highlighted sections and how the Professor is trying to equate emails with posts by association.
Notice too how he mentions "death threats" in respect of posts and "threats" in respct of emails.

Now, how many casual readers will come away from this thinking that he got "death threats" via email?

I would hazard a guess that most would.

169 alkmyst  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:26:26am
#27 ggt 2/2/2005 09:50AM PST
Ok, I just signed-on and haven't read all the posts. I do have a question. Do all these LLL jew-haters realize that George Soros is a jew? Doesn't that seem a little bent?

Ahhh, so fresh...

You see, soros is exactly the kind of Jew that the LLL love - the assimilated, lunatic, self-hating kind that gives them money and tries to corrupt his own people...

170 Tanker J.D.  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:28:35am

163 ZB

LOL! O.k.

171 sgumfemfe  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:29:43am

165: Zulubaby...

Thanks Zulubaby! :-) :-)

172 hm  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:31:00am

#63 hs

Those past communications put you on notice that violence threatening emails are a possible result of you actions.

If you're going to post pseudo clever legal shit here at least get your grammar right.

173 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:31:18am

#167 WriterMom

He's typing them up on his IBM Selectric right now.

174 GoatGuy  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:32:21am

Ooops... we're all wrong: it was one ten-millionth the way through the longitude passing through Grenich [remember Grenich Mean Time?]

Further, having just discussed this again with a good friend, I'm struck by how the gram/milliliter system [for cooking] is actually an obfuscatory scourage: all of the materials used in cooking have different (sometimes quite) densities, making the accurate weighing a confounding exercise. I mean, consider the scrumptious recipe for Boeuf Bourgagnon, in 'traditional' versus 'metric':

TRADITIONAL:
1/4 cup all-purpose flour
1 teaspoon salt
1/2 teaspoon ground black pepper
2 pounds cubed stew meat
4 tablespoons butter
1 onion, chopped
2 carrots, chopped
1 clove garlic, minced
2 cups red wine
1 bay leaf
3 tablespoons chopped fresh parsley
1/2 teaspoon dried thyme
1 (6 ounce) can sliced mushrooms
1 (16 ounce) can canned onions

METRIC:
37 grams all-purpose flour
5 grams teaspoon salt
1.5 grams ground black pepper
800 grams cubed stew meat
44 grams butter
125 grams onion, chopped
150 grams carrots, chopped
4 grams garlic, minced
330 milliliters red wine
1 bay leaf
17 grams chopped fresh parsley
2.2 grams dried thyme
66 milliliter can sliced mushrooms
330 milliliter can canned onions

Sorry goats... I wouldn't be able to remember the metric recipe even in the 30 seconds it takes to glance at it, and then to the damned scale to measure the stuff. Would you (or anyone) really remember that the average carrot is 75 grams?, or that an average onion is 125 g?

GoatGuy

175 odin  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:32:43am

#33 Sarah,

Jesse Helms is worried that a left-wing, undisciplined and ethically challenged former President of the United States will become the head of the UN.

Well, since the UN is running a prostitute ring in Africa, you have to admit that Clinton is uniquely qualified.

176 Mr Pol  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:33:13am

#172 hm

Who cares about grammar... the argument is interesting. "You're inciting harsh language! This is the same as torture/genocide/terrorism!"

177 WriterMom  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:33:21am

#173 WWTW

LOL! Do you think he has pink panties on his head?

178 hm  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:36:38am

#162 merovign

Good point.
I am not aware of the case law on this issue, but I can't imagine that a disclaimer wouldn't suffice.

But then again, there are a lot of activist judges out there who are forever limiting the scope of when a person is responsibile for his or her own actions.

179 Jonny  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:36:49am

#119 GoatGuy

I remember talking to one of the caretakers at my university, who was lurking outside my office one day, and he claimed the the metric system was a zionist plot to price petrol in litres so that it would seem cheaper. No prizes for geussing this happened in Canada.

180 Mr Pol  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:37:36am

#174 GoatGuy

There are a lot more differences than just the quantities. Here is a metric Boeuf Bourguignon.

181 sgumfemfe  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:38:33am

It's time to get out of my apartment. See you everyone!

182 Mr Pol  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:38:58am

#178 hm

But then again, there are a lot of activist judges out there who are forever limiting the scope of when a person is responsibile for his or her own actions.

What's the penalty for using harsh language, anyway?

183 alkmyst  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:39:41am

Charles -
Hmmm, something new for the rotating browser header?

#90 W-lover 2/2/2005 10:27AM PST

"I'd like to bang Paula Abdul" is right-wing code for "Nice job sabotaging Wellstone's airplane. Hail Zion!"

LOL! By the way, I'd like to bang Paula Abdul. ;)

184 religion of bacon  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:40:41am

The whole thing of Muslims wailing about being sent death threats is a classic case of what is referred to in graduate-level psychology as "he who smelt it, dealt it."

Or as some white non-Muslim guy wrote, "methinks he doth protest too much."

185 Renna  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:41:12am

#168 hm

Indeed. So if someone here posted "I hope he chokes on his own vomit and dies" and someone else emailed him a copy of the comments, that counts as a death threat via email.

186 Freedom Fan  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:41:31am

Thanx, Charles. What a public service you and LGF are providing, in humiliating these hateful dishonest creatures in acadhimmia, by exposing them with their own words.

Maybe they will think next time before speaking. Well we can hope can't we?

187 sgumfemfe  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:42:57am

#160: Claudia

Thank you Claudia. I do too.

Dr. Alam has entered a battle of wits unarmed.

188 Sideshow Ben  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:43:32am

Sorry if the answer is obivious, but does anyone know when the episode of O'Reilly re anti-American profs will air? Has it already aired?

Thanks.

SB

189 hm  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:46:39am

#176 Mr Pol

What I find really interesting about #63 is the sort of causality he or she is trying to imply.

If ever there was a case of blaming the messenger.

190 Bubble Girl  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:47:49am

While Alam is pointing the finger to LGF, wouldn't he have to go after each person who e-mailed a threat? Harsh language cannot be construed as a threat. But then again, we could be Clintonesque about it.


Remember, "It depends on what your definition of "is" is," is now, "It depends on what the definition of "threat" is," or "I did not threaten Mr. Alam," as in "I did not have sex with that woman."

191 hm  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:48:24am

#176 Mr Pol

Plus, don't you think its reasonable to ask for proper grammar when someone presents a legalistic statement which is all highlighted in bold?

192 sixstringslinger  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:49:26am

#188 Sideshow Ben:

David Horowitz was on O'Reilly last night. He was awesome. Bill also aired a taped interview with that commie dick-weed Ward Churchill. Sorry you missed it.

193 Mr Pol  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:49:57am

#191 hm

No. Never ask for anything 'proper' from a LLL.

194 Athos  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:52:40am

#168 hm

Actually, I think this academia moonbat is just a victim of projection as opposed to actually getting death threats.

He get's all of these emails exposing him for being the hypocrite, terrorist supporter / enabler than he is - and he envisions the death of his career. So he just expands this to be his own death...hence, they are death threats.

195 hm  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:52:57am

#182 Mr Pol

What's the penalty for using harsh language, anyway?


None, as far as I can recall.
However, if our Professor here can establish that he was substantially inconvenienced by these "threats", then he might have a claim against the person making the threat.

In any case, I just find it interesting how the usual suspects on the left are trying to obscure the concept of personal responsibility.

Basically this idiot is claiming that all of us here at LGF are victims of Charles' evil posts.

196 Suzanne K  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:53:09am

#75 GoatGuy

Most excellent letter!

The reason Ward Churchill's speech was cancelled had to do with money, and not with security concerns. It seems that alumni have been calling to rescind their monetary pledges. David Horowitz revealed on Bill O'Reilly last night, that the President of the college sent a communication to the professors stating that as a result they will probably face a cut in pay next year.

During this interview, the naive student representing the student newspaper simply kept shoveling the "official" explanation, and supporting the college president. He'll grow up eventually.

Horowitz was amazing and I'm off to Borders after work to buy his book, "Unholy Alliance."

My daughter and other conservative students are struggling on campus. I don't worry about her, she's very assertive and sure about what she believes. Besides, there are many leftists in her field. Have you ever heard of a Marxist Interior Designer? Thought so.

197 Spitblogger  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:54:16am

Wow, a muslim that supports muslim murder. What a shocker. I'm still waiting for the day that I meet a muslim that condemns the muslim murderers without a "but..." at the end of it, as is 'those hijackers were bad...but...that's not the real islam and they were jews anyway.'

Muslim=bigot

198 foreign devil  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:54:31am

#156 Plato:

You said "bad guys are being exposed as never before". That is so true! For a while it seemed like nothing was happening then all of a sudden, like an ice jam breaking, it all started to move about the time of the Iraqi election.

199 mad_scientist  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:54:55am
The messages posted on these websites were equally vicious, and some of them, containing explicit death threats were ‘kindly’ forwarded to me.

Whenever these anti-american Prof's get caught with their pants down they all go to the old stand by, of I revieved "racist", and "violent" emails.

Well, I dont know if he did or did not recieve said emails, but maybe if he would stop siding with the terrorists AGAINST the US in a time of war people wouldnt get worked up.

I am a fairly young guy, and sometimes I sit back and wonder what would have happened to guys like this during WWI, and WWII.

people just wouldnt take this kind of rhetoric during a time of war...

200 VerticalSwordsman  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:55:36am

The final paragraph of alam's vile essay takes the cake:

"just, inclusive, seeking knowledge, taking the middle road..."

What religion could he be speaking of, because it sure as hell doesn't describe the death cult that I know of.

201 sixstringslinger  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:55:48am

#194 Athos

Nice extrapolation. I think you're probably right.

202 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:56:00am
203 Mr Pol  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:56:14am

#197 Spitblogger

I actually met one.

204 Mentat  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:56:50am

Folks:

Get out the keyboard and write Northeastern. Mr. Alam must be shown that we have First Amendment rights too! He has the freedom to say stupid and objectionable things and we have the freedom to tell him that we think they are stupid and objectionable. Let freedom reign!

205 Spitblogger  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:58:50am

Mr.Pol - Interesting. Does he know any other muslims that agree with him? maybe they should get together and start a blog.

206 Bubble Girl  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:59:49am

It could get expensive for Prof Alam to sue each and every one he thinks slandered him, as for the threats, he might have a hard time getting anyone to pursue an investigation.

Prof Alam - "Hello FBI, I want you to investigate some threatening e-mails, right now!"

FBI - "That's not our jurisdiction."

Prof Alam - "Hello, I am the Prof Alam, a very important Professor and I want the police to investigate some very threatening e-mails, right now!"

Police - "Come to the police station and maybe someone can help you. Goodbye."

207 alkmyst  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:01:09am
#193 Mr Pol 2/2/2005 11:49AM PST
No. Never ask for anything 'proper' from a LLL.

Case and point

The Disengagement Authority announced Tuesday that 38 Jewish families from northern Gaza have agreed to leave their homes - but the Gush Katif spokesman says the story is "recycled."

And to segway oh so smoothly... (shameless self-promotion coming...)
Alkmyst's Tu B'Shvat in Gush Katif (Gaza) pictures

208 MoonbatBane  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:01:45am
For the record, there were absolutely no “nasty and threatening” emails “orchestrated” by Little Green Footballs.

Charles, the Prof. knowingly and maliciously saying otherwise sounds like it might be actionable libel. This is not legal advice, but you might want to seek some to see if you have grounds for legal action. After all, wouldn't it be great to have a hysterical lying moonbat declared such in a court of law?

209 Mr Pol  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:02:35am

#205 Spitblogger

Interesting. Does he know any other muslims that agree with him?

I don't think so - apparently his opinions are considered 'controversial' by most ROPers :-)

210 Spitblogger  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:04:44am

Bubble Girl- I can picture it now.

Prof Alam - "I am the peace loving muslim teacher. Investigate this, or by allah I will have a jihad on you so fast you won't have time to say the word fatwa!"

Police - "umm..."

Prof Alam - "All of you infidel are the same. Jews are pigs."

Police - "umm..."

Prof Alam - "I have too go now. I must remove the clit from my daughter's privates, and then beat her you evil jew infidel."

211 Athos  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:04:54am

#206 BG

Excellent point.

212 pilgrim shadow  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:07:35am

He thought about going on the O'Reilly show but the ACLU advised against it.

Thats rich!

So the ACLU is advising against media interviews and debate...the CORE of our freedom of speech.

213 WriterMom  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:07:35am

#182 Mr. Pol

What's the penalty for using harsh language, anyway?

Who the fucking hell knows? Sorry...couldn't resist.

214 Freedom Fan  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:07:59am

#63 hs

Those past communications put you on notice that violence threatening emails are a possible result of you actions.

Is this what they're teaching you in law school these days? No wonder our legal system is such a screaming travesty.

So allow spouting all manner of liberal garbage, but if any sane person challenges it, just shout "hate speech", "hate speech". Then bring, or threaten to bring, some bogus lawsuit that dishonest, liberal judges will refuse to recognize as frivolous.

If the guy really was threatened, show us the threat. Or better yet, show the FBI the threat. Just lose the adolescent legal saber-rattling; it's insulting.

215 hm  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:09:12am

#194 Athos


Actually, I think this academia moonbat is just a victim of projection as opposed to actually getting death threats.

Evidently, I was far too generous in assessing this idiot's rhetorical abilities.

Btw, nice use of the term victim. ;-)

216 OddsOn  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:09:21am

Any chance we can place Profs Shaheed and Wad Churchell in the open faculty positions at Baghdad U?

217 quark2  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:10:23am

I sure hope he's masochist enough to come here and read the comments posted on this thread.

He isn't smart enough to realize his lies will not stand.
My father used to say, 'you can educate a jackass, but that doesn't make them smart.'
Only thing is, jackasses are pretty much known for their intelligence. Can't say that about some people. This is a classic example.

218 Catttt  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:11:51am

#196 Suzanne K

Thanks! I was going to make that point, but I couldn't remember David Horowitz's name!

It's all about the money for these colleges. Start cutting their pay, and the profs stop being Communists and start being Capitalists again.

219 hm  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:14:30am

#214 Freedom Fan

Just lose the adolescent legal saber-rattling; it's insulting.


Well put.

220 Catttt  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:15:04am

#87 sixstringslinger
Re Horowitz - yes, he was awesome. O'Reilly even let him talk a long time, he was so good. I agree - I'd love to see more of him.

221 Mr Pol  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:16:15am

#214 Freedom Fan

Appeal to Force is a pretty common fallacious argument.

"The jawbone of an ass is just as dangerous a weapon today as in Sampson's time."
—Richard Nixon

222 jas  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:17:19am

#162


That makes you loopy, did you know that?

LOL! Time to clean the seltzer off the screen again.

223 alkmyst  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:18:56am
#221 Mr Pol 2/2/2005 12:16PM PST

"The jawbone of an ass is just as dangerous a weapon today as in Sampson's time."
—Richard Nixon

In this day and age of the blogosphere, would that mean that lizardoids might have to register their hands as deadly weapons?

224 hm  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:19:13am

#216 OddsOn

Any chance we can place Profs Shaheed and Wad Churchell in the open faculty positions at Baghdad U?


What an insult.

225 Athos  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:20:09am

#217 quark2

You can lead a moonbat to the truth, but you can't make them learn.

226 thinkingmom  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:20:16am

#212 Pilgrim Shadow,

So the ACLU is advising against media interviews and debate...the CORE of our freedom of speech.

Yup. The totalitarianism of the left. In the battle against islamofacism, free speech is crucial. "Hate Speech" is a profoundly unAmerican concept. Even raving moonbats like Ward Churchill should not be accused of "hate speech," imho, since lefties use that to stifle debate, on issues like opposing gay marriage, or saying islam is diabolical. Just expose his vile utterances to the public and challenge him to defend his rantings. And, strip him from any public financial support. His views are obscenely FALSE, which is where the battle should be fought.

227 Mr Pol  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:20:54am

#223 alkmyst

"The jawbone of an ass is just as dangerous a weapon today as in Sampson's time."
—Richard Nixon

In this day and age of the blogosphere, would that mean that lizardoids might have to register their hands as deadly weapons?

Well, nodroG should...

228 Athos  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:25:00am

#223

In this day and age of the blogosphere, would that mean that lizardoids might have to register their hands as deadly weapons?

Not in that sense. Although as the user of tools "Nekama's Hammer, Cluebats, etc) against moonbats and other pests, we all may need to join Pest Control Operators of California since LGF is CA based.

229 VerticalSwordsman  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:25:16am

Apparently alam is trying to get us all to look at 9/11 FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE TERRORISTS! That clears everything up. Now I'm with him 100%.

230 quark2  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:25:31am

OT

Speaking of frivolous, extreme and ridiculous.
Yesterday an 11 year old girl was arrested on school ground property, handcuffed and put in jail.
WHY?
Because she defended herself earlier. Another girl pushed her, and she pushed back. The attacker lost her balance, fell and bloodied her own nose. Both girls were disciplined by being
suspended from school for two days.
So now the attackers parents filed charges against the 11 year old girl, and their attorney said it's not over yet.
If I were the girls parents I would countersue. For about 10 million dollars.

231 MAV  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:25:40am

Here is my e-mail to the Dear PROFESSOR...
You sir are a pathetic coward and liar. I do hope that you take your beliefs and attitude out of my country. And the sooner the better. I hope you realize the power of the TRUTH and when you spout lies and slander in a Public Forum more than likely someone who feels strongly about revealing the truth (EG lizaroids at LGF and other blogs) will out the Lies and call you out.

You know what they say, if you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

God Bless America and may God have mercy on the commies and LLL who are trashing this great land of ours.

232 quark2  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:27:55am

@228 Athos

Not our hands, but our keyboards. :)
Do you have any idea how dangerous a lgfers keyboard can be? *lol

233 blueroom127  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:28:10am

When will these terrorist apologists who abuse their educational responsibilities realise that free speech doesn't mean freedom from the consequences of your words? Dr. Alam's students have the right to not be subjected to his squewed anti american opinions when attending classes on economics. We all have the freedom to oppose Dr. Alam and it obviously is working.

234 Saxon Brother  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:28:18am

Isn't the power of LGF wonderful ? For years odious trolls like Prof. Alam have been getting away with their poisonous attacks on the US and Israel BUT now their lies are getting exposed. Face the setting sun Alam, the days of your filth going unchallenged are coming to an end.

235 beblebrox  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:28:48am

#128 Bubble Girl

Sorry for the delay, I'm installing Visual Studio in the background and it demamded my attention.

OT: Charles: I don't know about anybody else but a thread on North Korea's supplying nuclear materials to Libya may be appropriate. It's here.

236 alkmyst  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:29:35am
#228 Athos 2/2/2005 12:25PM PST
Not in that sense. Although as the user of tools "Nekama's Hammer, Cluebats, etc) against moonbats and other pests, we all may need to join Pest Control Operators of California since LGF is CA based.

mmm... are you suggesting chemical weapons? Don't most LLL have high enough tolerances to most carcinogens that it wouldn't affect them? :-)

237 Peacekeeper  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:30:09am

WHere do these guys get their degrees from? Walmart? (Walmart actually wouldn't sell this crap-I take it back)

238 Mr Pol  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:30:11am

#232 quark2

Do you have any idea how dangerous a lgfers keyboard can be?

Nah, the keyboard of a lizard is safe. The keyboard of an ass, now that's dangerous.

239 alkmyst  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:31:18am
#232 quark2 2/2/2005 12:27PM PST
Not our hands, but our keyboards. :)
Do you have any idea how dangerous a lgfers keyboard can be? *lol

Exactly. :-)

240 quark2  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:31:22am

@225 Athos

Pretty much the truth!

241 Peacekeeper  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:32:32am

This is normal, Professors in Syria and Iran regularly criticize their governments. Hello? Is this thing on?

242 big L  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:33:53am

So the USA rejected Metric measurements, so we have this hybrid that is really stupid. That would be 1.1 inch
4.3 feet. and "The house is 4.8 miles from the business centers".

This combi is crazy, ridiculous.

243 Ariana  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:34:00am

Here's another one of his articles. Lots of whining about being criticized and how the MSM ignored him.

Another Shahid article Testing Free Speech in America

Something interesting here:
>

Shahid's argument attempts to turn 9/11 into part of a global class warfare network

“I decided to enter the domain of public discourse in order to argue against the "clash:" to argue that 9-11 or the war on terrorism did not herald a clash of civilizations. They had to be examined in the context of the global capitalist system, divided between a rich and dominant Center and a poor or mostly poor and subordinate Periphery. I have since argued that 9-11 was a riposte from a
244 Athos  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:35:32am

#236 alkmyst

We don't need no stinking chemical weapons.

Seriously, we fight these pests with logic and facts. We expose their hypocrisy and their agendas. Then the weight of common sense does the rest.

That's only some of what they don't really understand. They have no real understanding of history. They have no real understanding of the 1st Amendment - and that the protections that they try to hide from aren't absolute. There are limitations and the Constitution isn't a suicide pact.

When confronted, they have to resort to bluster and whinging hoping that their allies will either try to shout down their opposition, or the MSM will ignore the issues so it can whither on the vine.

But today, with blogs and the internet, these things don't whither, and they can't escape accountability for their irresponsible statements.

245 Tanker J.D.  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:35:58am

227 Mr. Pol

Troll hands tend to be more aggravating and annoying than actually dangerous. (See, LGF Troll Patrol A Basic Guide to Troll Anatomy, p. 34-5 (Lizardoid Press, 2001).)

246 Ariana  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:36:57am

continued from #234 Ariana

note he makes a connection between international class warfare and Israel "the colonial settler state"

I have since argued that 9-11 was a riposte from a
particular segment of the Periphery--the Arab-Islamic segment--where the weight of the Center in recent decades had been more crushing than elsewhere. And this for two reasons, primarily: they had oil and they faced Israel, a new, expansionist colonial-settler state.”

247 quark2  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:37:35am

@238 MrPol

I would love to see a pic of that. *lol

248 PDM  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:41:00am

#238 Mr Pol,

Nah, the keyboard of a lizard is safe. The keyboard of an ass, now that's dangerous.

But the keyboard of an ass dressed as a lizard is the worst.

#247 quark2,


I would love to see a pic of that. *lol

Just click the above link. :)

249 Gabba Gabba Hey  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:43:20am

My but how the dark, slimy, putrid worms of vegucation clamour for shelter when their rock is overturned.

250 Jakester  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:44:26am

Lucky he lives in America and not in one of his precious Muslim countries!

251 zulubaby  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:44:30am

PDM (#248)

LOL! That's a great picture of Gordon.

252 Tanker J.D.  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:45:37am

248 PDM

Too funny!?

How do you find raw material like that for photoshops?

Do you google "ass lizard" or something?

253 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:45:57am

#33 Sarah D.

Sarah, I'd have to say that His Slickness is uniquely qualified to be UN secretary general. After all, he's a crook, a skirt-chaser, and a windbag.

254 quark2  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:46:38am

There is a pattern to their crazy inconsistencies when challenged.
If you notice, their whirled peas speak is not logical. Try diagramming a sentence from his last effort. Warped.

255 GoatGuy  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:48:15am

Big L...

Not really. 1.1 inch is not something your average carpenter is going to use. "One and an eighth", or in the case of buying lumber "five quarters" for 1.25 inches. There's something really elegant about the words "five quarters", or "three halves", or a "two by four", or a "6 penny nail". They may be non-obvious to the newbie, but I learned all that from my dad when I was knee-high-to-a-nipper. Once learned, they're almost second-nature. Also there's a real 'empirical' feel to the sequence: one quarter, two quarters, three quarters, 4 quarters, 5 quarters... [which is how all plywood is measured in the USA].

We don't use 4.3 feet either yer grace, but rather might say 51 and a half inches, or 4 feet 3-and-a-half (inches implied). Yes, technically "4.3 feet" is easier to say, but so long as the 2,3,4,6,12 ... division system is in place, we're gonna be workin' in inches and feet, quarters, halves, eighths. [I'd be curious to learn what the European and especially Canadians are doing for lumber. The Canadians are especially quixotically encumbered: they have all the forests that produce their #2 export [lumber] which goes mostly to the United States. Do they have 'metric mills' for Europe and the world, and American/English for the rest of us? What do they use on their own homes? Or, has the carpentry-and-construction industry quietly remained "metric renegades" out of necessity?]

But we do use 4.8 miles! The advertisement I saw in the paper about that house was worded, "only 5 miles from city center". Seemed pretty convenient to me.

GoatGuy

256 Mr. Pulpo  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:49:32am

#67 Bubble Girl

I sort of got the impression that the author was saying that the Democrats are stuck with the Kos and trying to make the best of it.
Sort like catching herpes and someone found out and blab it out to everybody.
It won’t take long for the reader to form an opinion once they hit the link, visit the site and go, WHEW PU.

257 Jonny  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:56:04am
#237 Peacekeeper 2/2/2005 12:30PM PST WHere do these guys get their degrees from? Walmart? Walmart actually wouldn't sell this crap-I take it back)

Probably from the University of Moscow, which gave Mahmoud Abbas his doctorate for denying the holocaust - I doubt he would have gotten too hard a time from the review board either.

258 Thom  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:56:58am

#119 GoatGuy

The old units of dozens, scores ... are gone, yet they were so practical. 10 is only divisible by 2 and 5. 12 is divisble by 2, 3, 4 & 6.

Base-12, baby!

I'd go further and say we should adopt a base 60 system. Divisible by 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 12, 15, 20, and 30!

259 PDM  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:57:34am

#251 zulubaby,

Thanks. Thom's comments to Gordon were the inspiration. LOL.

#252 Tanker J.D.,

I did an image search for "lizard" a while back and found a contortionist who dresses up like a lizard.
Just lucky I guess...:)

260 Thom  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 10:59:59am

Omigawd! I'm PDM's Muse?! I'm humbled and awed.

261 quark2  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:00:43am

@248 PDM

*LMAO!

262 Solomon  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:01:33am
These were orchestrated by a [Link: www.littlegreenfootballs.com...] Shortly thereafter, other right-wing websites got into act, posting excerpts from the essay; these included jihadwatch.org, campuswatch.org, frontpagemag.com, freerepublic.com, etc.

WTF? I posted about that, and I got the pointer in an email from a reader - no orchestration or nothing - and he doesn't have the decency to slime me by name? Putz.

Solomonia...the etc. of the blogosphere!

263 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:02:16am
264 Peacekeeper  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:02:43am

#258 Thom ,Goatguy

"I'd go further and say we should adopt a base 60 system. Divisible by 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 12, 15, 20, and 30! "

Ok, that's far enough. You risk becoming more obnoxious than Serpent's sophistry.

265 WriterMom  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:03:20am

#257 Jonny

I thought he got bought his doctorate in Egypt...

266 Thom  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:04:54am

#264 Peacekeeper

Hey, if it's good enough for the Babylonians it's good enough for me.

267 Bob's Kid  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:05:45am
Ten Jews are running the world.

Good think it's my lunch...cause I am laughing out loud.

268 Peacekeeper  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:06:53am

Thom
Great! I'll ask the next Babylonian I see.

269 jahannah  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:08:06am

#258 Thom

But we do. Right now it is 4:08 in Base 60 time.

270 WriterMom  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:08:46am

#259 PDM

Great images...Look at this one from googling party lizard.

271 Peacekeeper  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:10:24am

Thom

Sorry for being harsh, I'm still bitter from the first time I tried to build a box from "2x4" 's and plywood (What do you mean it's only 1.75 inches?).

272 zenbone  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:13:08am

I wrote the follow to m.alam@neu.edu, cc'ed to ja.stellar@neu.edu and a.abdelal@neu.edu.

Dear Mr. Alam,

In your article in Counterpunch, Feb. 2, 2004, FoxNews Puts Me In Its Crosshairs, you made the following claim:

"I published an essay, "America and Islam: Seeking Parallels," in Counterpunch on December 29, 2004. A day later, I began to receive nasty and threatening emails, all at once. These were orchestrated by a (sic) [Link: www.littlegreenfootballs.com."...]

As a frequent reader, and occasional poster to LGF, I am not aware of any such "orchestrated" threatening email campaign. I would appreciate if you could please clarify this matter and give evidence for your serious allegation. The only statement that I have found on the LGF site in any way relevant to your charge would seem to prove quite the opposite approach both in content and tone.

Note that in the following link:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

LGF editor, Charles Johnson, clearly stated and encouraged:

"If you decide to contact the professor or his university, please remember that the best way to make your points heard is to be polite."

No doubt you received email expressing both agreement and disagreement with your opinions (which I am sure you welcome as a critical academic living in a free and open society). I believe your claim that you also unfortunately received "hate mail". Nevertheless, I am sure you would agree that, in the interest of maintaining objectivity and fairness, one should not expose oneself to the risk of making unsubstantiated and libelous statements.

For the record: I respectfully and strongly disagree with the positions you made in your previous article. However, my opinions are not at issue in this email. I trust that my differing views will not interfere with your sincere and honest effort to respond to my request. Needless to say, I expect the fact that my last name is "Goldstein" will not bias any email exchange we hopefully will have.

I am simply asking you to verify the claim you made with regard to actions made by littlegreenfootballs.com.

Thank you in advance for your kind attention to this matter.

G-d bless us all,

Martin

273 Thom  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:14:53am

#271 Peacekeeper

Ah. Well, don't be bitter.

Base 16 is fun. I was born in 7AF. How about you?

:)

274 dcbatlle  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:15:56am

Let me get this straight.

We little "Eichman's" deserve to die because we have it coming to us, but you Lefties are mad because we interfere with your "free speech"?

275 templar  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:16:47am

Ha Ha Ha. Now the Evil Zionist Kabal (tm) has been brought into the open its time for my Evil Baptist Kabal (patent pending) can rise from the ashes and assume its true calling as the puller of the strings. Bwahahahahahahahaha. Afterall, we can't a world without some Evil Kabal (r) pulling the strings now can we? What would happen to our arab friends without a super secret Kabal that eveyone knows about to blame? Bwahahaahahahahahahahahahaaa

276 zulubaby  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:17:15am

ploome (#202)

don't forget me!

As if I could! :-)

277 PDM  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:21:51am

#270 WriterMom,

I must be missing something. Is there supposed to be an image there?

278 WriterMom  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:24:00am

#277 PDM

Let me try again. Now where did I put that linky...

279 WriterMom  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:25:41am
280 Bob's Kid  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:26:08am
In this day and age of the blogosphere, would that mean that lizardoids might have to register their hands as deadly weapons?

Not to mention the lizardoid brains. Hands are useless without the magnificient brains to go along with them.

Disregarding the monkey/typewriter thing, of course.

281 rightasrain  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:28:31am

Anti-American professor cries "UNCLE" (whines "uncle" is more like it) at the power of the BLOG? He mentions Little Green Footballs in particular?

This is so cool. :)

282 PDM  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:29:52am

#279 WriterMom,

LOL. It looks like the Lizardoid version of Jimmy Buffett.

283 rightasrain  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:32:45am

The pajama industry is going to be a side beneficiary of all this, too.

No more wearing underwear to bed. PAJAMAS WILL RULE! :)

Models will be walking down runways showing the latest pajama fashions while carrying keyboards or iPODs or something.

They'll be asking Presidential candidates 'What pajamas do you wear?' instead of 'Boxers or briefs?' Who cares about anyone's stupid underwear anyway.

Pajamas rule! :)

284 rightasrain  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:34:37am

Oh, I wrote to NEU about this professor.

I was polite, Charles. :)

285 Miggie  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:34:40am

7 ggt

Timothey McVeigh was a Christian.
"Doesn't that seem a little bent?" as well?

Religions can't answer or apologize for every one of their members or what any one of them may do. On the other hand, religions that promote death and destruction to non-members, like Islam, should be called upon to answer.

286 realwest  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:45:25am

CHARLES - you're an orchestra leader, too? I thought you were (just) a guitarist!
Is there no end to your talents?
Everybody RELAX (and that's an ORDER) he's only a professor at Northeastern University who's appearing on O'Reilly. I mean if this guy taught at some prestigious institution and was appearing on a reasonably intelligent show, THEN we might get our dander up.
Geez, I didn't give permission for you youse'all to come to attention, so the order of the day for this little NE persimmon is still RELAX!

287 Studsup  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:48:21am

#196 Suzanne K -- "David Horowitz revealed on Bill O'Reilly last night, that the President of the college sent a communication to the professors stating that as a result they will probably face a cut in pay next year."

Now this is rich. The institution is so managed that paycuts are all of a sudden required in order to trim expenses? And the President links these drastic measures to the reduction in alumni giving as a result of this flap? This college relies that heavily on annual alumni giving to meet its payroll? Is someone really in charge there? You can almost hear it now: "Why those nasty neo-con free speech hating alumni, it's because of them that your salary is cut Professor Jones, you can hardly blame us for that". Will anyone really believe that?

288 realwest  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 11:58:31am

#129 AG in Houston - you left out realwesheimer. For shame!

289 Touchdown  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:15:44pm

I'm pretty tired of this party trick, its been played out by so many jihadist agent professors. Spread vermin and hatred in the name of allah, then victimise yourself to the point of absurdity. Its a game plan spefically taylored to take advantage of the weak and politically correct west.

290 Ariana  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:19:40pm

"Confessing to become wise, they became fools instead"
The Logical Consequence of Leftist Guilt

"Carol Rutter is not most people - as a professor of English, an academic steeped in Western European guilt, her first reaction reveals an ear that is precisely tuned to the ever-present bogeyman of colonial injustice:
"I was thrown back on the last time Western Europe discovered a parallel universe, when we discovered the New World - and when we went into that world we as colonisers didn't actually work very well to the benevolence of what we found there. And I just wondered if we go into a parallel universe - if there's going to be somebody there - what is our relationship going to be to those people, or those aliens who are there, and are we going to have as disastrous a future in this parallel universe as we've had in our own?"
Sage nodding all round...
Onora O'Neill, who appeared on the same broadcast, is not most people either - she's a moral philosopher! On the programme to support her arguments for limiting freedom of the press (Fox News being the predictable exemplar of why stricter controls are needed), she describes how terrorist acts ought to be covered by the media):

"Report terrorism, not by reporting the violence that terrorists do, but by trying to understand what terrorists are trying to communicate."

In other words, the press should ignore the brutal reality of mass murder and reduce such acts to the equivalent of an earnest Radio 4 conversation among academics (rather than, say, a Dadaist happening - the latter being notoriously difficult to decode). Listening to Monday's broadcast, I was struck by how neatly these two excerpts illustrated (once again) the moral vacuity of a certain prevalent brand of academic thought. We have, of course, seen such examples time and time again, so this in itself is nothing new. But what's interesting about this particular manifestation is that it so starkly points out the consequences of this self-flagellating mindset.
The likes of Ms. Rutter and Ms. O'Neill are wracked with a feeling of collective guilt so extreme that, given the opportunity, they would hesitate to save the entire species from certain extinction because of the chance of a negative effect on some quite possibly nonexistent aliens.
But this is not altogether surprising, since they're also quite ready stand back and watch (or, rather, deconstruct some communication) as the civilisation that makes them so ashamed - that which allows the existence of English professors and moral philosophers - is similarly threatened"
291 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:21:19pm
292 Malleus Dei  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:38:38pm

Why hasn't this man been deported?

And why is he allowed to get away with such blatant lies?

293 rightasrain  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:39:50pm

#290 Ariana

Good one - thanks for posting it!

Here's a correction for your link on this:

The Logical Consequence of Leftist Guilt: Extinction

I like this part:

"Report terrorism, not by reporting the violence that terrorists do, but by trying to understand what terrorists are trying to communicate."

Well, I think we can understand what they're trying to communicate:

1. They are barbarians.
2. They have no concept of the value of human life.
3. There is no hope of reasoning with them.
4. They will keep murdering until they die.
5. They WANT to die.
6. We want to live, so see number 5.

The root cause of terrorism is the barbarism of its perpetrators.

294 rightasrain  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:41:48pm

Terrorists often say that they want to die as much as we want to live.

These are compatible goals.

295 Malleus Dei  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:42:52pm

"Spread vermin and hatred in the name of allah, then victimise yourself to the point of absurdity. Its a game plan spefically taylored to take advantage of the weak and politically correct west."

This plan only works because the Leftist mainstream media helps them with it. If the MSM ever did what it was supposed to do - and did it honestly - these jerks would be called quickly to account and never get away with their lies.

Unfortunately the MSM gleefully supports anyone who is anti-American and would rather accept forged documents at face value than actually find out the real truth for themselves.

296 rednaxela  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 12:46:19pm

#272 zenbone

I expect the fact that my last name is "Goldstein" will not bias any email exchange we hopefully will have.


ROTFLMAO
or, to be more precise,
ROTFNKWTLOC

297 Suzanne K  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 1:01:58pm

#287 Studsup

Exactly! She jumped on the opportunity to blame the right. There's no way that should could project the effects of a drop in donations.

298 Jakester  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 1:03:13pm

Goat guy
off the top of your head, can you tell me how much a gallon of water weighs, or inches in a mile, or the volume of a gallon in cubic inches or feet?

299 Studsup  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 1:23:36pm

#297 Suzanne K -- "Exactly! She jumped on the opportunity to blame the right. There's no way that should could project the effects of a drop in donations. "

I have a funny feeling that "the neo-Cons did it" may well be milked as a ready excuse for a lot of management shortcomings there. Paycuts because of the conservative reaction -- that is so specious as to almost not be believed. And if that is true, that speaks to me of serious weakness in the way that place has been administered.

Can you say "President Search Committee"?

300 jake  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 1:26:34pm

#255 GoatGuy

...(metric musings)...

You hit the (six penny) nail on the head about Ye Olde English system being more practical in day-to-day use. I remember reading a Straight Dope trivia column where the question was why the U.S. never "went metric" after Pres. Carter made such a big deal out of how we were falling behind. Cecil's answer was that the U.S. economy is so strong that we can afford to use two different sets of systems, one for us and the other for dealing with the rest of the world. Makes one proud to be an American, eh?

Speaking of dope, good old American pot is still measured in 1/8ths of an oz., while the nastier (and more expensive) drugs I believe are all sold by the gram. Of course if you are Snoop Dogg, you're probably buying by the q.p. or the elbow (lb.). For what it's worth..

301 Ariana  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 2:07:16pm

#294 rightasrain
thanks rightasrain, I speculated that the women was raised inside a closet and never developed any normal relationships, and subsequently the ability to care about human life. The frightening factor is how people take her seriously due to the "appearence" of intelligence by means of a degree and a position. I could see this wacko setting off a bio bomb inside the US and then explaining that we should not see the results as an act of terrorism but rather seek to relate to her inner pain.

302 Athos  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 3:05:13pm

Pipes talking about Alam with O'Reilly on FNC now...

303 Athos  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 3:08:41pm

Wow, Horowitz with O'Reilly yesterday on Churchill, and now Pipes with O'Reilly on Alam. BOR getting some heavy hitters to help him out on these subjects.

BOR reading an email from Alam - he spoke to ACLU who advised him not to speak to O'Reilly, and they accused O'Reilly of being on a mission against far left professors.

No mention of LGF - but Pipes did read some of Alam's inflammatory writings.

304 [Engineer]  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 3:45:28pm

GoatGuy and jake

The U.S. has gone metric, almost. The military is metric, the FCC is metric. Cars are metric etc.

I have to work in both systems and it is a pain.

How easy a system is to use, depends a lot on what you grew up with.

305 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 3:46:33pm
306 GoatGuy  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 7:08:40pm

Jake, Jakester, [Engineer], et alia ~

lbs in a gallon? 8 ("a pint is a pound, the world around")
inch / mile? who cares - 5280 feet, 1760 yards, 640 acres, about a 15 minute walk.
etc.

[Engineer] - I agree with you on doing anything professional where there's overlap. Two systems sucks, and metric is easier for most people to grasp, since it never entails a fraction.

But then it encumbers people with all sorts of oddities when they're calculatin' stuff: what's a third of a meter? Or how about an eighth? I mean, we need quarters, thirds, fifths, sixths and eighths for a variety of good reasons. Ever watch someone mentally slog through what 1/6th of 160 millimeters is? 75% of people are so "math dumb" that the'll have to dig out a calculator to do it. I however, can tell you effortlessly that 1/6th of a foot is 2 inches, and more. Or, look at the idiotic recipe foolishness that I citted above for pasta. It is a pathology, a giant joke in some domains to "go metric".

Again, as a practicing chemist, as a physicist, as an electrical engineer and finally as a lifelong computer scientist ... I wouldn't dream of working with the english/american measurement system. It is positively aweful. But as a cook or chef, as a cabinetmaker, as a lutewright and a bookbinder, the feet, inches, fractions and old fashioned measures are emminently practical in a way that metric entirely misses.

Or to put it more succinctly ... if base-10 measurements were so bloody practical for these things, their invention would date back to the Minoans of Crete. Didn't quite work out that way.

In any case all ... thanks for the discussion. Just had to vent.

Oh, and Jake ... the volume of a gallon of water, is 4 quarts, or 8 pints, or 16 cups -- take your pick. In cubic inches? Who knows and further - who cares? Would you like to tell me how many cubic centimeters is one kilogram of graham cracker meal? Don't know? Well it is equivalently the same question.

GoatGuy

307 hector  Wed, Feb 2, 2005 9:51:38pm

Why is that fundamentalist moron still in the US? We don't need scum like that in the West - it's time they were all shipped out - Saudi will take them, they are Brothers afterall.

The world is getting pretty sick if this islamic cult and all the trouble they cause. Look at all the violence and destruction in the world just now and you will find that 95% is caused by pinheaded muslims.

308 johnb_nc  Thu, Feb 3, 2005 1:16:58pm

Northeastern University economics professor M. Shahid Alam, who wrote an execrable article comparing the September 11 hijackers (favorably) to the American Minutemen


So I am a bit fuzzy on my American history...was it a child with Down's Syndrome or a deaf child that Washingon beat and repeatedly dunked in the Delaware River when crossing to attack the Hessians at Trenton?


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