Just 'cuz they all think alike doesn't mean they're biased. Bias implies they are wrong, and that just can't happen.

As always, follow the money.

I can't say I'm terribly surprised. Google gives their employees free lunches and all that, so chances are they're used to getting something for nothing; hence, socialism.

...sell and don't buy their stock...don't advertise with them...don't license with them...give them no money...

simple as that

Isn't Al Gore a Senior Adviser at Google?

Welcome to the facist world of the political left wing.

Heil Google!

Braindirt #5,

He's on the board of Apple Computer.

The big mystery, and a possible source of GOP angst, is this: Will either party nab Google founders Larry Page, 32, and Sergey Brin, 31? Their company shares are worth $7.2 billion each. Yet federal campaign finance data do not show a single contribution from either one last year.

That's pretty interesting...I'd always wondered whether they gave donations to any political causes. At least they didn't give $1 billion to the UN.

Oh damn. So anyone know of a search engine managed by upstanding neo-cons that we can switch to, while we finish up the last of that "W" ketchup?

Well of course ole al is on it...... after all; he INVENTED the internet! LOL
btw.... who is Wade and why don't you want to use his hairbruch; Charles?

The online search giant’s beefier political profile reflects moves by the broader tech industry to defend itself in recent years as Washington debates Internet taxes, offshoring of jobs and other hot issues.

google cant defend itself from bill gates, he has them in his scope.

Google is my search engine of choice, and I use the Google toolbar.

..BUT, (ah, the power of caps) I am not married to it. Does anyone out there have a suggestion of a more lizardoid alternative?

OT : CAIR Condemns Jersey City Murders ... Nobody Notices

CAIR Condemns Jersey City Murders ... Nobody Notices

On January 13, 2005, Newsday.com reported on an interfaith meeting between Christian and Muslim leaders concerning the Armanious murders in Jersey City last month.

The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) linked to the story in a press release of theirs on the same date.
Anti-CAIR (ACAIR) notes that not only was NO CAIR representative present at this interfaith meeting, but that there are NO quotes of CAIR spokesmen or any reference at all to the well-known Islamist group in this article.

Additionally, ACAIR notes with great interest that a “condolence note” from the New Jersey chapter of CAIR to the Armanious family and the Coptic community was ignored by the press as well.

We can only hope that this is the beginning of a trend among the mainstream media to discount or ignore CAIR's rantings. It has always been our opinion that there is evidence that CAIR and its leaders have supported Hamas and other terrorists, and that CAIR was therefore not qualified to speak for loyal American Muslims.

Is it just us, or does it seem that the only place CAIR can get a positive mention these days is in their own press releases ?

If so, we think it’s about time.

Google may be coming off my favorites list.

Well as soon as LGF becomes as newsworthy as The Cranky Consumer which came up in the top three in a Google News search of Eason Jordon a couple of days ago we'll be worthy.

Isn't It Romantic -- Cox & Forkum

Try Altavista and perhaps Ask Jeeves. They seem to work.

Charles, perhaps for context something on the front page should show what Google does allow in their news index. To the uninformed, they might not understand what the big deal is about not including someone's blog just because they asked.

Dogpile is a great search engine.

www.dogpile.com

FYI:

Google corporate HQ

1600 Amphitheatre Parkway
Mountain View, CA 94043

Phone: 650-623-4000

Several other addresses & phone #s at that link.

hotbot.com is also a good search engine.

OT

Regarding Eason Jordan..

Bob Beckel on H&C just called us psuedo intellectual bloggers and referred to us as a lynch mob.

Apparently Bob has a problem with freedom of speech that doesn't belong to him...

God bless you Charles! Lizards hit the tip jar if you can!

Slightly OT: On FOX, Bob Bechtel just referred to the "lynch-mob" bloggers while discussing the Jason Eason thing. HANG 'EM HIGH, CHARLES... LOL and hahahahah!

I don't work at Google, but I'm a hi-tech worker and I have to say I'm among a VERY tiny minority of conservative programmers.

Anybody know of a way to get Google out of my Firefox toolbar?

OT

Speaking of moonbats…(not to beat a dead horse but this story is finally getting major air time)

some dude (Bob Beckel) only hannity and colmes is ranting about "lynch-mob bloggers" who report without any regard for the truth and some other rediculous shit…I am drunk typing trying to quote him…"throwing a 20 year career down the line" "bloggers who have no rules of engagment and shoot first…" pretty deflamitory stuff about us fellows. Kinda rediculous considering we didn't make Easton resign and the transcript is still unavailable. Weird how people defend the "truth" when all we are asking for is the truth to be known in form of transcript or video.

Booze is the best date I ever had,

They carry slashdot.org too. It's not a very left or right site - its politics lean toward libertarianism and electronic freedom - but it has almost no original reporting. Almsot all of it is reposts with comments.
They do have "feature" articles of their own, but they're less common than original content on LGF.
Feh.

LOL

I guess we all saw the same thing and posted at the same time.

As I've mentioned before, Al Gore works for Google. Isn't that enough evidence? Sure, politicians are useful, but AL GORE? Only hardcore democrats could work with that a-hole.

See Sergey Brin and Al Gore partying in Davos together here:

The Google Gore connection

Or read about Al's involvement with Google as a "Senior Adviser" here:

Al, Apple and Google

Then again, Al did invent the internets!

#26 KurtP:

Anybody know of a way to get Google out of my Firefox toolbar?

I would have guessed logging on here would have been enough to do the trick! There's always Rush's site I suppose.

#26 Kurt P.

Go find some extra engines for the search toolbar. I have yahoo and askjeeves in mine.

What really gets me is you have all these super brilliant Google programmers who would vote in Communism if given a chance on the ballot.

You're FoxNews and they're Canuckistan.

But much like Canuckistan, resistance is futile.

#7 reader
I had to look it up. Scroll down a little: [Link: news.com.com...]
It's ~5 paragraphs down. At least he used to be a senior adviser at Google. Don't know if he still is, though. Notice that I didn't use Google.

29 No User

Yup, don't forget the tip jar!

Google is the network news of the internet.

Lynch mob?
Cool.
It's very complimentary coming from Bob Beckel.

I use Yahoo! for most of my searches, now I just have one more reason to do so. I don't understood what makes Google so special anyway.

About a month or so ago Beckel was on one of the FNC programs and I recall him saying things like 'well we lost the election', 'we didn't do a good job of explaining our values to the voters', and other such un-moonbat things.

I remember thinking at the time that this election had a bigger effect that I thought, it really unhinged old Beckel and he's sounding almost reasonable. I was a bit concerned that he had been snatched by space aliens and replaced with a pod or something.

But its good to see that he's returned to his old self. God is in back in his heaven and all is right with the world again.

Don't forget that Al Gore is a senior adviser to Google. Speaks volumes.

"Since losing his bid to become president, Gore has been a senior
adviser to Google. "
http://news.com.com/2100-1042-993332.html?tag=fd_t op

How come the link posted up top say "the non-partisan Center for Responsive Politics, which tracks campaign finance", and the link on Drudge has it listed as "the liberal Center for Responsive Politics, a group that tracks campaign spending and contributions."

You're not really being pulled a fast one by a group that shows their partisanship when it suits their needs, are you?

I suppose I shouldn't be surprised, but I am in a way...I guess I figured a search engine would be open to all ideas, considering it is supposedly a snapshot of the entire World Wide Web. I have been using Google exclusively for the past several years. I'll have to reconsider my position on it!

I just had the best time chasing my wife and dogs around the house imitating Bob Beckel. "THE BLOGGERS ARE COMING!" "LOOK OUT FOR THE BLOGGERS!" "THEY HAVE NO RULES!" "BLOO-OOO-OGERS!"

#40 JohnSteele: Ditto. Beckel has my respect in that he's a really bright guy who knows how to put a lot of faces on the different messages he's tasked with delivering. It was somehow both creepy and endearing when he was doing his "concillatory, reasonable" schtick. I took it as a sign that that's the way the party was going to tack. Actually, it probably was briefly and then they decided against it, or just couldn't help themselves.

Has anybody Asked Jeeves what he thinks about this?

What's the problem here? All Google controls is the results of your search, thereby the data your receive, and basically the bulk of the information being read and shared -

Oh.

So, maybe a biased guard at that gate might be bad after all, huh? Luckily they're left leaning; the right might misuse it to accuse our soldiers of torture and assassination.

Oh again.

Jeeves is Labour's poodle :(

(sorry, but your post really made me laugh!)

you ought to be using the BEST search engine going folks type in vivisimo.com and get going. (I havent checked yet to see who captains the ship, here's hoping it is a conservative) :)

Jeeves is Al Gore's code name.

This devastating post I made on this topic last time around pretty much sums up my feeling about the Google News issue. Read it and weep. Then email to them.

bob beckel ran mondale's unsuccessful 1984 campaign and is also famous for payimg two $300 hookers by check=="nuf said

What it seems to boil down to is Google is censoring opinions they don't share every bit as much as MSM. Well, we'll just have to not google anymore -- my browser goes to Jeeves, if all lizardoids change their preference and refuse to Google, then maybe they will get the message....

I would add that my profile on Blogspot (owned by Google) is not working and that they have not, to this point, fixed it.

I have a quite conservative blog (e.g. antithetical to the mindset of moonbats). Could they be undermining my traffic too? I don't know. But this I do know,

1) Google's stock price is driven by advertising.
2) They have reviewed the content of my site for Ad-Serve.
3) There have been multiple scandals in overstatement of circulation in the print media, specifically the newspapers (e.g. Chicago Sun-Times, Newsday, Hoy etc.).
4) If advertisers found out Google was cheating on the numbers, it would destroy their stock price.
5) The best thing to do is document cases where there are clear auditing errors in the Google figures to take to the advertisers. That will force their hand, one way or the other!

#28 MagnaniomousCoward

They carry slashdot.org too. It's not a very left or right site

I strongly disagree with that statement. Slashdot could very well be the technical sister-site of DU. I personally had it with them after the forth or so Bush/NeoCon/Diebold voting conspiracy update and haven't been back since just prior to the election. I figured that it would only get worse.

Often times, if an article submitter neglects to add some sort of anti-US, anti-GOP, or anti-capitalist quip, Cmdr. Taco and his bunch will often take up the slack. And the comment section is overflowing with Chomskyites. In fact, I attribute my disdain towards europeans in general largely to my exposure to their continuous anti-amerikkkan rants over there. Of course, seeing such rants by europeans at virtually every other webboard didn't help, either.

The only topics upon which I see eye-to-eye with the slashbots is that of the complete bastardization of the copyright and patent systems. Oh, and open source software is cool. And that's where the "electronic freedom" portion comes in. But otherwise, the /. crowd largely comprises Michael Moore-types who hate America, hate capitalism, and hate anything related to conservatism.

"barking moonbat lunatic asylum Democratic Underground"

Ah, Charles, once again you top yourself: LOL!

"American Muslims and the 9/11 Commission", listed as "Muslim Perspective on Terrorism" in schedule, is all over C-SPAN today. I'm not watching this taqiyyah-fest. It should be monitored, then refuted online. I'm just not up to it.

Wake me when their is an actual debate on jihad. I just want to hear Muslims say that word, then propose to the world by saying, "lets have a sincere and open debate", with infidel scholars, of course. The rest is bullshit, and obfuscation.

#54 MachiasPrivateer
You might like this.

WHEN the web logger Laer (Cheat Seeking Missiles) called to cancel his 25-year subscription to the Los Angeles Times last Monday, he was made an extraordinary offer. The circulation service rep, detecting that he was fed up with the paper's liberal bias, offered to sell him the newspaper without the news sections. Laer was thunderstruck.

"How often must the beleaguered circulation department be dealing with calls like mine, for them to come up with a special like this?" he wrote. (On Wednesday, an L.A. Times exec wrote back, denying that the Times offers to sell partial copies of the paper, but thanking Laer "for bringing this to our attention.").....

A deafening silence

I know I'm not a big player but 10 days ago I wrote Google a nasty email...

Email text here

and three days later my domain was no longer listed on Google. If you search for "Conservative Life" on Saturday I was #1. On Monday I was no longer listed at all.

Now I doubt Google as a corporation gives a crap about my small website but clearly the representative who read my email did. I got what I deserved but somehow I doubt this would have happened had my site been an anti-bush site.

26 KurtP

Yes click on the little G(oogle) icon, a dropdown list apears with 5/6/7 choices, and you can load in whatever else you want.

26 KurtP

Anybody know of a way to get Google out of my Firefox toolbar?

If you want to remove that search bar altogether click the "View" menu, go into "toolbars", then "customize" then simply drag the search box into "the customize toolbar" window. Hope that helps.

#54 MachiasPrivateer

Can't say what is causing your provider's lack of response... But, I can guess...

We should take it upon ourselves to not use Google, and, if asked, indicate why. We should switch our default search engines, write letters to the stockholders of Google (who, as investors, are probably profit-oriented rather than politically-oriented) and go from there.

OK...well, time to dump Google.
I guess Dogpile.com will do-do just as well.

#33 EIDE_Interface  2/14/2005 06:35PM PST

"What really gets me is you have all these super brilliant Google programmers who would vote in Communism if given a chance on the ballot."

Even Einstein fell for socialism: "The economic anarchy of capitalist society as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of the evil."

If you control the information that is available to those seeking it, you control a world of opinion that hasn't even been formed yet.

Al Gore, you sneaky bastid, ya.

On FOX, Bob Bechtel just referred to the "lynch-mob" bloggers

Scarborough had some effete Euro-weenie who is an editor for some Techno-review mag kvetching about how someone who had a nice, long 23-year career at CNN shouldn't have been hounded out of his job by a bunch of twerps seeking a story.

That sort of thing should be left to professionals attempting to oust a sitting President, obviously.

Then he said "Bloggers don't have to fact check like the MSM either".

That sort of thing is reserved for CBS.

What a fuckin' joke. Information has been Balkanized, just like everything else in the world.

How in heavens name can Google syndicate a Bin Laden love fest web site like Jihad Unspun? They're not just pro Bin Laden, they're openly pro Bin Laden and trumpet that fact on their web site. Does Google actually know what the fuck these people are publishing on their web site? This is a fucking disgrace!

FWIW, Google does a great job of searching LGF's comment threads. Now if only Haloscan would open wide and let Google's spider in, too.

I try to point out the moonbat sites as non news sites. I am not sure if that does any good. I think Google likes moonbats.

As to search engines, I use Alta Vista and Dogpile.

Apple is even more far-left than Google. Except for Charles, Lileks and a handful of other people every Mac-head I've ever met is a big-time liberal.

Microsoft tends to employ a fair number of libertarians, but they too have their share of lefties. At least Gates defends capitalism.

To find the true die-hard communists, anarchists and America-haters look no further than the "Open Source" morass. Slashdot.org is lousy with these people.

It's funny how they name some of these sites and organisations -

"antiwar" - pro war when it comes to Palestinian war on Israeli civilians

"International Solidarity Movement" - why not just call it Solidarity with Palestinian Terrorism?

searched google with "google favors liberals" got "0" hits,
searched with google favors liberals (no "") and got a bunch of out of context stuff My My

I wonder if Google knows that this neo-con uses Google to trounce all asshat, moonbat, LLL, arguments?

Google's days are numbered too.
Netscape's immorality only lasted a few years before they burned out.

Well, perhaps All The Web will work as a replacement?

#72 Pro Bush Canuck:

To find the true die-hard communists, anarchists and America-haters look no further than the "Open Source" morass.

A programming blogger named Cedric Beust had a neat spin on Winston Churchill's famous quip about being a socialist at 20 and at 40:

If you are not an open-source enthusiast at 20, you have no heart. If you are still an open-source enthusiast at 30, you're an idiot.

Eschaton is claiming that their site has been de-Googled (i.e., Google doesn't link to them quickly enough or in the ways they'd prefer).

My last job was at a paid search placement firm, and through that we did a great deal of work with Google and with clients who used Google's AdWords program. Not only are Google's political donations ultra-liberal, but they have liberal principles when it comes to AdWords. For example -- they don't allow anyone to bid on a keyword like "guns". (Go ahead, Google up "guns" and if you find any Sponsored Links, I owe you a Coke.) Even for law enforcement or military use it's forbidden, which drove some of our clients crazy because they ran a website for police officer supplies and weaponry, but had limitations on what they could bid.

I'm not sure what the entire forboden list of keywords is, because Google won't release it, but it doesn't seem to have any regularity. For example: "guns" is blacklisted, "rifle" is not (though that turns up scope or rifle-sight hits, not necessary rifles). "Armor piercing bullets" is out but you can bid all you want on "suicide bombing". Etc. Apparently IPO value isn't all that matters.

Pro-Bush Cannuck,

"Apple is even more far-left than Google. Except for Charles, Lileks and a handful of other people every Mac-head I've ever met is a big-time liberal".

Don't know if he still uses Apple, but for years, this guy was pretty vocal about his Apple use--and I doubt he'd qualify in anybody's book as a big-time liberal. Well, maybe bigtime classical liberal... ;)

Ya know, there are people who appreciate open source software that aren't Stallman-worshipping pinkos. Granted, we are about as numerous as pro-US europeans, but the fact remains. And unlike the commies, I have no qualms with SELinux which is developed by the EEEEEEEEvil NSA.

I use Overture when I don't need a bull shit list of anything else but what I'm looking for then I also use Mamma for a short list but down to the point.

By the way these 2 search engines list "Smith Space Technologies" number one.

[Link: www.overture.com...]
[Link: www.mamma.com...]

Something I observed about these company-linked political donations --

They go to the party whose votes are for sale. That is, the money goes to the most corrupt party or politician.

Also, we are seeing the impact of the moonbat education system: corporations are full of Madrassa graduates.

Humm... If MSN search is supporting 40% Republicans and Google is 2% then I know where my search clicks are going. No more clicks on Google ads either. If Yahoo's contributions are anything like the articles they run on their news site, it ain't THERE either.

Charles -- Buy a share of google stock and sue. If they are secretly managing the content of their news thereby risking the company's reputation and the value of your stock, you might have standing to sue...

I thought the big thing with google was to be nice to their customers.

I suppose they do not want Republican customers.

BTW Booze Allen gave their employees huge exquisite catered lunches every day. It kept the secrets in house and the employees were considered at work during lunch and were expected to talk shop during lunch. Something they could not do outside since much of their work was secret.

Did the free lunch make them socialists?

google.bot and active.bot have been 'botting' sites for several months now ever since a rash of hackings late last year. I noticed them on some of the islamofasciat/terrorist leaning boards that have members numbering in the thousands. Even if it's just the almighty dollar they are chasing, I won't give google the time of day knowing they court business from that scum.

gang, it's even worse than it might appear.

any search engine which references Richard "Hoagie" Hoagland and his glass spires on the moon apollo-moon-mission-coverups, i can see a engine block in the spirit rover pictures, hey, it's all about 19.5 and hyperdimensional-physics and all other craziness within the confines of:

www.enterprisemission.com

is certifiably walking the thin edge if trying to maintain it's "credibility factor."

personally, i've ALWAYS used yahoo, and have never once been cajoled by the academic bulldoody behind google. the first time a professor said to me "google it," i knew i would never ever ever use the search engine in my life.

ok, so i did use it a few times to compare results between yahoo and google. know what i found? google pulls up 10 TIMES MORE ADs and commercial sites before indexing a private sight.

hmmmm. ever wonder why google IPO's at almost $100 a share when they have no product, yet yahoo at least has games and personals?

I thought googlenews works via some sort of algorithm, i.e. without human intervention.

Well, I suppose it wouldn't be too hard to program some prejudice into that algorithm...

here's an easy way to remember...

when you type "google", you start with your LEFT hand, and when you type "yahoo", you start with your RIGHT hand.

lefty loosey, righty tighty - accoring to my dunkin' donuts box'o'joe.

Me done with Google.

Google is creepy. I noticed the bias issues with their "news" feed a long time ago. A fellow librarian even said that what Google News needs is a good human editor, but being fair is not the point of the service they're providing.

The other thing I noticed about them more recently is the total wierdness of some of the things the senior executives have said. I remember reading at the NewsHour site a segment that talked about Brin's goal of being able to recreate "the mind of God."

But it turns out that they meant it. Sergein Brin, one of the founders of Google once told me he hoped Google could be like the mind of God, everywhere and knowing everything. And that's their goal. They want to organize everything.

Another article mentioned Page's intention of being the single source of information for everyone. You know, for the common good and all. They want to gather all information to them, like the Dark Lord Sauron, or something.

This new information on their political leanings melds well with their stated goal of total information control...for the common good, of course.

This company is looney, and it's certainly not worth $200/share.

Just for the fun of it, I decided to see if Google News would pull this story up. I went there and typed in 'google 98% democrat' and sure enough, the first hit was

[Link: www.internetnews.com...]

I've always preferred Google because of the layout of their website. When you're on dialup, a search page that loads with only ONE logo graphic and a minimal amount of text is a true pleasure.

ah well, time to start hunting....

....and if you want another non-liberal mac user, look no further than [Link: www.rushlimbaugh.com...]

#96 Scriptfox

what the heck is dialup?

Google is a very reliable search engine and way ahead of the curve. All of the other "leaders" of the search industry are chasing Google's every move.

I noticed during the Presidential campaign that Google News was very slanted. They, like MSN, MSNBC and other major players, were covered with very biased articles.

While I have stopped using Google News, I will continue to use Google Search. They can control what type of news they offer, but that does not change the quality of their search engine.

Dialup-n. A type of internet connection that dials a sever every time it needs to connect to the internet. Very slow (56k max afaik) and prone to disconnecting at random times depending on the server. See also tin can and string.

This may explain why Howard Dean was elected to the DNC.

1) He has a core group of tech savvy people working for him.
2) Such people can get rich quick (e.g. Google employees).
3) They tend to not be socially adept (that's an understatement).
4) They are young and could be suceptible to the "Just Win Baby" ethic of the Democratic Party.
5) Since they are ethically challenged, they will do things such as cheat on traffic numbers.
6) They are naive, so they do not see the trainwreck of audited circulation demanded by advertisers coming (The light at the end of their tunnel is a train headed the opposite way).
7) So they should be easy prey for a sophisticated counter-"terrorist" program.

Let's nail them!

I was kicked off of Google groups some years ago for arguing against pro-palestinian antisemites.

At the time I just assumed that some Jihadi complained and that they pull your account on the first complaint. Now I'm not so sure.

I TOLD YOU LGF! IT'S TIME TO TAKE ON GOOGLE! Sheesh!

I mean not so violently. Just an innovative way to get back at Google.