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Thu, Mar 3, 2005 at 6:31:21 pm PST

The Committee to Protect Bloggers points out that in the last week, totalitarian regimes have been arresting and threatening numerous bloggers:

Malaysian blogger Jeff Ooi questioned by police.

Bahraini blogger Ali Abdulemam arrested with two of his fellow moderators on the BahrainOnline bulletin board.

Iranian blogger Nasjeh Omidparvar arrested.

Omidparvar, who is pregnant, is the wife of recently convicted blogger Mohamad Reza Nasab Abholahi.

This is the down side of the recent media focus on blogging; the repressive theocrats and dictators of the world also read our media. They perceive a threat to their control of information, and they’re reacting the way these atavistic monsters always do—by attempting to crush the threat at its source.

But this time, they’re going to fail.

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Final Historian Thu, Mar 3, 2005 4:34:17pm

You cannot silence the truth forever. The dams will not hold. Truth will break out eventually, and when it does, it will be in a flood which shall sweep tyrants and their supporters before it.

stanlef Thu, Mar 3, 2005 4:34:59pm

Many on the left would like the authority to do the same here in the states.

LSD Thu, Mar 3, 2005 4:35:06pm

Will KOS and the LLL rise to the defense of THESE Bloggers?

NO.

whiterasta Thu, Mar 3, 2005 4:35:35pm

It's too late for the mullahs. The genieblogger is out of the bottle.

Must be the fault of the Americans or the Jews.

Obi-Wan Thu, Mar 3, 2005 4:36:26pm

The vox populi wil never be silenced no matter how hard tyrants try.

arf Thu, Mar 3, 2005 4:36:57pm

It will be the US government doing the same thing soon, under the guise of campaign elections "reform".

Heaven forbid they reform themselves by dealing with fraud, and straightening out their gerrymandered districts.

SkippyMoment Thu, Mar 3, 2005 4:36:57pm

I'm reminded of a line in "Star Wars" when Princess Leiah says to the General of the Emporer's forces "The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers."

May the force be with bloggers for freedom, where ever they live.

sven10077 Thu, Mar 3, 2005 4:40:13pm

#7 Skippy Moment,

yeah but sadly the "force" in this case will be a lot less elegant than guys in Pajamas lifting things in the air with a wave of their hand.

ronaldusmagnus Thu, Mar 3, 2005 4:40:37pm

Are there any English language Iranian, Malay or Bahraini weblogs to which we can post? Find them - link to them - post to them. I feel tremors of Lexington Green and Concord Bridge running through.

Freedom - Liberty - Truth. They need it - we can help.

Onward!

Quilly Mammoth Thu, Mar 3, 2005 4:41:24pm

Samizdat...the faxes that helped to free Russia. I remember posts on compuserve that asked people to fax articles to Russia.

The internet is even harder to stop than fax machines.

Earl Thu, Mar 3, 2005 4:43:40pm

Vox populi. Vox Dei.

Have I missed something?

the_real_american Thu, Mar 3, 2005 4:45:11pm

the repressive theocrats and dictators of the world also read our media. They perceive a threat to their control of information,

Yeah, just like in some other country

Oh wait... The conservatives in USA would never allow anything like that happen. Not at all.

scoreboard44 Thu, Mar 3, 2005 4:45:16pm

IT'S TIME TO SEND THE DOGS A HUNTIN'!

FREE THE WORLD! I CALL ON ALL THE BUSH POWERS THAT BE...

ANNO CHENEY, DINO RICE, RUTTA-TA RUMSFELD...BEHAT, REPUBLICANO...mmm...uh...RONALDO MAXIMUS...

Let's start kicking a little ass on bloggers behalf.

scoreboard44 Thu, Mar 3, 2005 4:46:02pm

Where the hell is John Wayne when you need him?

Obi-Wan Thu, Mar 3, 2005 4:48:57pm

#8 sven10077

I find your lack of faith disturbing.

Shammer Thu, Mar 3, 2005 4:49:54pm

OT (sort of):

Ari Fleischer just put the smack down on bones (colmes) when it came to Gannon throwing softball questions at the Prez, and rebuttal with[sic] "what have the left been doing all of these years?"

He also gave props to the Bloggers and their efforts to present the truth.

Let's get down to brass tax for a sec. Why don't we just call this show Hannity and Obsolete.

Mentat Thu, Mar 3, 2005 4:50:23pm

#7 SkippyMoment

"The best diplomat that I know is a fully-loaded phaser bank." -- Lt. Cdr. Montgomery Scott ("A Taste of Armageddon")

[Link: www.sjtrek.com...]

Earl Thu, Mar 3, 2005 4:50:49pm

#13 scoarboard 44

It'S TIME TO SEND THE DOGS A HUNTIN'!

Errr, harrumph. When we do that that in our County- we eat for the winter ;)

ASD Thu, Mar 3, 2005 4:50:52pm

#8 I'm not so sure about that. I do believe i look quite elegant sitting here in my pj's lifting this beer in the air.

Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) Thu, Mar 3, 2005 4:50:54pm

15 Obi-Wan

These aren't the bloggers you are looking for.

sven10077 Thu, Mar 3, 2005 4:51:18pm

#15 Obi,

Just call me Han or Wedge...

I'll believe in the wizardry when I see it old man...

*grin*

nagasaki_hata Thu, Mar 3, 2005 4:51:50pm

Use your Free Speech while ye can, lizards!

Might come to using smoke signals when the Big Brother Clause in the Constitution is "discovered" by the liberal majority of the Supreme Court.

Oh, wait. Smoke is out, too toxic.

Free Speech will out, though it stays underground, it will out...

Obi-Wan Thu, Mar 3, 2005 4:57:00pm

#20 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You just reminded me of a song. Are you ready?

Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) Thu, Mar 3, 2005 4:57:26pm

New standards for UN troops?

JOHANNESBURG, SOUTH AFRICA; AND NEW YORK – Faced with a double-barreled crisis over its inability to forge even a semblance of peace in the African jungles of Congo or prevent its soldiers from sexually abusing civilians there, the United Nations' biggest global peacekeeping operation is undergoing a dramatic makeover. The changes may set important precedents, experts say, for UN peacekeeping efforts worldwide.

atlasshrugged Thu, Mar 3, 2005 4:59:05pm

Those that are in danger must know they are in danger.

Can't they go underground?
Anon?

mich-again Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:00:05pm

If the world's theocrats want to elevate their nations above the abject poverty level (where nearly all Islamic countries reside, even the ones with oil), they will have to allow their people to become educated, but as the people become more educated they will turn away from the force-fed "religion" and revolt against these despots and their "holy leader" toadies.

So the Islamic tyrants around the world will find it necessary to do whatever it takes to keep their people ignorant and uninformed as long as they can or they'll lose their grip on power. The internet is more dangerous to them than cruise missiles.

Obi-Wan Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:02:40pm

#21 sven10077

Watch that "old man" crap!

Buckaroo Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:05:13pm

***Tom Clancy book Spolier Alert***

At the end of "The Bear and the Dragon" the CIA streams their satellite coverage of the war onto the internet, which leads to many Chinese seeing what is actualy happening and causes a popular uprising which results in the end of the conflict.

***End spoilers***

My point is -- they can lock up a few bloggers, but as long as there is any electronic interconnectivity (and that is fast becoming part and parcel of the world) the truth -- via the voice of the people -- is not going to be silenced any longer ...

rightasrain Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:05:37pm

Well, I have to do some research to find this story, but several years ago I remember reading about an experiment in India where they put a computer at the edge of an area that had vast poverty and illiteracy.

They secured the computer, keyboard, mouse, etc., in some way that allowed kids to use it without stealing it.

A bunch of illiterate kids figured out how to use the computer to surf the internet fairly quickly.

Within a matter of months, they were downloading music MP3s.

These kids (mired in poverty with no chance whatsoever at a decent life) had a door open in their lives by a computer that they figured out how to use to communicate with the WORLD.

I think that even the experimenters were surprised by this.

Societies that try to control information in the 21st Century are trying to hold back the tide. They won't be able to do it.

quark2 Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:06:56pm

@12 the_real_american

Right.

/not in your wildest wet dream bub

Sarah D. Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:07:45pm

Look, it's not a problem to create a VPN if you know the IP address. If these folks need an outlet (that's not known as an outlet) it's a simple matter. If the mullahs want to ban US IP's, that's not a problem. If they want to ban all but Iranian IP's that's not a problem.

There are many of us willing and able to create proxies where needed. We just need to know where and when.

jas Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:09:40pm

#12

Been there done that.

Lookie here

Smith and the other two Republican commissioners wanted to appeal the Internet-related sections. But because they couldn’t get the three Democrats to go along with them, what Smith describes as a “bizarre” regulatory process now is under way

scoreboard44 Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:12:31pm

time for bed. Joe's on.

Kevin P. Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:16:54pm

OT; Radical Cleric in Indonesia Is Acquitted of Terrorism

JAKARTA, Indonesia, March 3 - For more than two years, the Bush administration pressed the Indonesian government to prosecute a radical Islamic cleric, Abu Bakar Bashir, whom the Americans portrayed as Osama bin Laden's lieutenant in Southeast Asia.

...

SHIT.

Bad Mushrooms Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:18:07pm

#12 the_real_american

Funny how in your link the Republicans were trying to stop the bizarre regulatory process and the Democrats thought it was just fine. I wonder how it will end up for moveon.org and howlin' Dean if that goes down? KOS will have to shut down. Think they can blame it on the Conservatives by letting it happen? If it did go into effect, Charles would have to take down that huge link to the RNC...oh wait...there isn't one. Well, anyway, I'm sure all the bloggers will go to the secret interment camps I keep hearing about on DU. I mean nearly everyone has already been dragged off into the dark night already right? Damn fascist Bushitler Republican baby killers and Christian Jew capitalists. Did I leave anything out? Oh yeah, forgot..."Condi Rice is a Nazi Oreo." Did I misunderstand you? Are you really that lame? Stupid? Self-centered drool shorting your keyboard? Dick caught in your mouse?

quark2 Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:19:42pm

@34 KevinP

Yep, another complete travesty of justice.

Kevin P. Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:21:04pm

#36 quark2

To say the least...

I hope all is well with you and your's, quark2.

Sarah D. Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:21:07pm

Is Italy fixing to rat us out?

Italian Prosecutor Investigating Possible U.S. Spy Role in Kidnapping of Suspected Islamic Militant, Reports Say

The 41-year-old imam, identified as Abu Omar, disappeared in the northern Italian city in February 2003. Milan Prosecutor Armando Spataro is looking at whether he was seized in a CIA operation and flown to Egypt for interrogation, the Corriere della Sera and other newspapers have reported.

What do they care? As long as he's gone...

Bad Mushrooms Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:21:47pm

I'm going to bed.

ronaldusmagnus Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:22:53pm

OK folks.

I went to the Committee To Protect Bloggers website and posted an expression of support and an appeal to Ammar to let us know how we can be effective in their cause of freedom.

If you are horrified at the thought of the arrest and imprisonment of a pregnant Iranian woman who dared to plant on her blog the seeds of freedom - then do what you can.

Pithy and outraged commenting here at LGF is a start - but let's do some more.

Let's demonstrate the power of fully functional and freedom-loving blogosphere. We have been swatting flies around here - easy targets like MSM and academe. Are we ready for some truly life-saving work against true tyrants?

ONWARD!

Sarah D. Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:23:02pm

Uh, sorry - this is my news time of night.

Indiana Man Charged With Trying to Sell Names of U.S. Spies in Iraq to Saddam Hussein

Shaaban Hafiz Ahmad Ali Shaaban, 52, was charged with agreeing to act as a foreign agent for Iraq and with immigration violations, federal prosecutors said Thursday following Shaaban's arrest.

He's from Jordan.

Ed from Ohio Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:23:02pm

it'll be interesting to see the role of bloggers in the middle east.

it is a powerful phenomenon

eeevil conservative Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:23:06pm

I can't take it anymore... it is bugging the tar out of me...

In that add at the top right-- the T-shirt

Commies aren't Cool

If you are going to put the time and effort into making a shirt- can ya do a little better-- that's just plain boring!

Robert D Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:23:36pm

#33 scoreboard44

If you're talking about Scarborough, he and Ann Coulter just tore apart a moonbat about Mr. KKK Byrd. It was great. Only good show on msnbc.

Iron Fist[deleted] Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:24:24pm

Ed from Ohio Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:24:37pm

damn! i missed it

quark2 Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:24:55pm

@35 Bad Mushrooms

Dick caught in your mouse?

*lol
Worthy of Charles' rotating quotes!

Ed from Ohio Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:25:13pm

This is a little off the subject here, but does anyone else find Ann Coulter sort of...well...attractive?

just wondering

Sarah D. Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:25:14pm

#40 ronaldusmagnus

Do you think a show of email addresses is going to sway the mad mullahs? I say let's put together a coalition of proxy servers for them. Allow freedom of data to flow via our boxes.

Iron Fist[deleted] Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:26:02pm

Sarah D. Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:27:16pm

#48 Ed from Ohio

She ain't bad. A bit skinny tho.

Aladin Sane Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:27:28pm

Do I have to read the whole thread, it's late...

quark2 Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:28:45pm

@37 Kevin P

Springs just about here, thank goodness!

How did you fare in your first DC winter? :)

sven10077 Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:31:07pm

#48 Ed from Ohio(as I am),

Ed she is a doll baby, not necessarily conventionally beautiful but she has wonderfully expressive eyes and a whip-snap mind...

Kevin P. Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:31:31pm

#53 quark2

How did you fare in your first DC winter? :)

I wouldn't know, I'm not in DC. LOL. I am fine, just living life.

rightasrain Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:31:32pm

#53 quark2

Springs just about here, thank goodness!

Yeah, NO KIDDING!

I walk 3/4ths of a mile to shul on Shabbos and I managed to go through the whole winter this year (so far) without having to trudge through the worst possible weather to get there.

It would snow during the week, then it would clear up nicely by Shabbos.

Next winter, I'll be in Judea (and a LOT closer to a shul.) :)

quark2 Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:32:04pm

@52 Aladin Sane

Are you mixing something with your water?

Robert D Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:32:40pm

#46 Ed

He's talking about it again right now.

RebTex Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:32:44pm

Ed from Ohio
I DO!
Also, Jeanine Pirro!

RebTex Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:33:35pm

sarah D.
A little Southern food would thicken her up!

Earl Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:33:38pm

Not to worry, Charles. If you can make your way north of the border, we're very remote- and heavily armed. You can bunk in with us for, say, a few decades... after all, we kept Jews at the farm in the NL throughout the War. You'll be no trouble.

Sarah D. Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:34:22pm

#60 RebTex

Not on my Southern budget!

Aladin Sane Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:36:04pm

#57 quark2

Are you mixing something with your water?

Yes, before I crash, g'night all!

RebTex Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:36:37pm

I ,just the other day, was introduced to fried Oreos & fried Twinkies!
WOW!
(Cheap, too!)

rorschach Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:36:38pm

#48 Ed from Ohio 3/3/2005 07:25PM PST

This is a little off the subject here, but does anyone else find Ann Coulter sort of...well...attractive?

Ohhh yeah.

song_and_dance_man[deleted] Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:36:59pm

quark2 Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:37:33pm

@55 Kevin P
Yikes! My apologies! We had/have a poster named Kevin that won a spot with the state dept last year. Guess I'm having another older than dirt senior moment! :)

rightasrain Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:37:44pm

#64 RebTex

I ,just the other day, was introduced to fried Oreos & fried Twinkies!

I hope you just said hello and walked away. :)

eeevil conservative Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:38:48pm

Iron Fist

That's more bigel's style-LOL!

I'm more of a nerd-- just not as much of a nerd as that chic's T-shirt...

Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:38:54pm

#66 song_and_dance_man

I volunteer to be a thug as long as the union pays my court costs.

RebTex Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:39:34pm

Right as Rain
Oh no!
I indulged!
They're almost addictive!
Kinda like fried flour tortillas...one batch just AIN'T enough!

Beagle Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:40:02pm

#35 Bad Mushrooms

That's a great takedown. However, I've learned t_r_a's posts are scrollover country. Have you noticed the tendency to pretentious nicknames? "the_real_american" "voice of reason" something like that?

There are a lot of people running around with a messiah complex.

Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:40:58pm

RightasRain

had funnel cakes, with the powered sugar all over them?

mmm

rightasrain Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:41:36pm

#71 RebTex

Kinda like fried flour tortillas...one batch just AIN'T enough!

Fried Oreos and Twinkies?

Interesting.

How did they discover this? Drop them into a frying pan by accident?

I've had fried bananas, but then I was on a banana farm at the time so bananas were prepared in dozens of ways there.

RebTex Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:42:14pm

Kragar
They used the funnel cake batter on the Oreos & Twinkies!
Dusted with powdered sugar.

rightasrain Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:42:53pm

#73 Krager

had funnel cakes, with the powered sugar all over them?

No, I haven't tried this.

Good, eh?

RebTex Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:43:37pm

Right as Rain
You ain't from around here...are you

song_and_dance_man[deleted] Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:43:55pm

rightasrain Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:44:14pm

#75 RebTex

They used the funnel cake batter on the Oreos & Twinkies!

Dusted with powdered sugar.

Ah!

Ok, this sounds pretty good!

ronaldusmagnus Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:47:25pm

#49 Sarah D

That may sound silly to some - but that's the sort of thing I mean. During the American Revolution, the colonists needed all manner of support and supplies. It wasn't just lead for their long rifles, salt pork and hardtack. They were a ragtag bunch of merchants and farmers, not warriors. They needed anything and everything - money, metal, food, rations, horses, boots, flints, dry powder, etc.

In the 21st century, maybe some massive coalition of proxy servers is one of those needful things!

I don't want to spend my life being a half-wit, half-clever smart-ass on somebody's blog.

The Iranian mullahs put their boots on the necks of their people in 1978 and sent the USA wimpering down the lane. It's time to go back and help those people help themselves. This is truly one of those "moments in time".

Think big - think like Bush - think like Reagan.

CrimsonFisted Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:48:00pm

Keep up the Star Wars themes! I just got my copy of the Star Wars Christmas Holiday Special DVD from ebay and am watching it now! Tooo funny!

Robert D Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:48:16pm

Ari on msnbc now

Smith Space Technologies Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:48:45pm

I advocate the forcefull overthrow of the mullah regime in Iran and / or any other mullah tyrant bastards in any nation.

I won't be able to resist the smell of freshly BBQ'd mullah tyrant on my plate (just like pork the other white meat)

BBQ'd mullah ribs and a doggy bag to go

rightasrain Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:49:06pm

#77 RebTex

You ain't from around here...are you

Think north and slightly west.

We have lots of Texas license plates here (visitors.) :)

Ed from Ohio Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:49:37pm

i don't feel wierd

which fox news girl is everyones favorite

im torn between dari alexander and laurie dhue

Earl Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:49:40pm

#64 rebtex

You ain't from around here...are you

Unhhh... you're from Scotland? Right? NOBODY eats this shite but for the Scots.

RebTex Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:50:15pm

Right as Rain
ArkLaTex?

Sarah D. Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:50:22pm

#80 ronaldusmagnus

Absolutely agree! Question is how. We need folks who have contacts there. With that we can start sending out IP's that are 'safe'. It takes a network!

/what a cheesy saying, but true.

quark2 Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:50:56pm

@72 Beagle

There are a lot of people running around with a messiah complex

You are so right!

rightasrain Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:51:07pm

#87 RebTex

ArkLaTex?

No, the Colorful state. :)

Eagle Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:52:50pm

#1 Final Historian
Fuck!ng A.

#15 Obi-Wan
It saddens me that some will not understand that particular nuance.

Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:53:09pm

#85 Ed from Ohio

Kiran Chetry, hottest Fox babe

Sarah D. Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:53:14pm

#85 Ed from Ohio

Geraldo - he's just a chick with a nice mustache.

song_and_dance_man[deleted] Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:54:13pm

song_and_dance_man[deleted] Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:55:43pm

Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:55:45pm

94 song_and_dance_man

Oh, forgot Heather Nauert. So hot.

Obi-Wan Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:56:07pm

#91 Eagle

The force is not with everyone. And vice-versa.

RebTex Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:56:28pm

Ed from Ohio
I'm torn between Rebecca Gomez & Aphrodite Jones & Janice Dean & Rita Cosby.

Mcgyver Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:57:00pm

Did anyone notice that we still have the floor h*mping scary guy, but the hot chick modeling the jewelry has left only the jewelry?

Mcgyver, out

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ProudLiberals dot com Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:57:32pm

freedom to blog is good. Feedom to read blogs is needed as well...

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rightasrain Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:57:52pm

Well, I guess I don't watch TV enough anymore.

I've never heard of any of those people, RebTex, except for Rita Cosby (and only because someone here said to check her out for her new hairdo while she was doing the news or something.)

102

NY Nana Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:58:12pm

#53 Quark2♥

Newflash! Wow! Did you realize that she who shall not be named is an Orthodox Jew? That really will impact on the arrested bloggers! Bet it was a shocka when it posted that! Feh.

Gotta rush..finishing off a meal to take to NJ tomorrow, to the kids, and the traffic from here to there is awful..the G. Washington Bridge is the pits...no matter what the season.

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Sarah D. Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:58:25pm

#100 ProudLiberals dot com

And what are you liberals doing to see that they have it?

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ASD Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:58:56pm

#85
Kiran but I like watching Uma, still waiting on her to blink.

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ronaldusmagnus Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:59:35pm

#88 Sarah D

Let me think about it for a while. Perhaps Charles might offer his thoughts? (See our posts throughout this thread.)

I have an early a.m. (honest to God, I am sitting here in my damn PJ's.)

Good night!

Remember: think like Bush - think like Reagan - think like Washington - think like Victor Davis Hanson - etc. etc.

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Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:59:37pm

Has anyone noticed that mcguyver seems to be paying WAAAYYY to much attention to the guy in that ad?

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metal man Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:59:49pm

Lauren Green Shes got attitude, See her smack Shep once in awhile.

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rightasrain Thu, Mar 3, 2005 5:59:50pm

Proud Liberals, sometimes you're nicer than some of the old folks who post here.

Just thought you'd like to know. :)

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Sarah D. Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:00:34pm

#102 NY Nana

Be safe!

(((NY Nana!)))

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Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:00:36pm

#103 Sarah D.

I think they were gonna have a rally and then go for coffee afterwards.

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Catttt Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:00:46pm

"And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."

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RebTex Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:01:56pm

I DO NOT like E.D. in the mornings.
GAAAK

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ronaldusmagnus Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:02:09pm

#111 Cattt

Amen.

(and good night)

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quark2 Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:02:55pm

@102 NY Nana

*LOL!

NO...really? :)

Have a safe trip on the morrow. Big hugs to the kiddo. :)

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rightasrain Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:03:23pm

People who forget to take their senility pills can be such a drag.

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Obi-Wan Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:04:05pm

#111 Cattt

Not only free, it will make you really angry.

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Kevin P. Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:04:32pm

#67 quark2

That's ok. I found humour in it. :o)

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Sarah D. Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:05:26pm

#105 Ronaldusmagnus

I'm in them too!

Let me know...I'm willing. Call me Sarah D. Reagan. MInus the money!

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Eagle Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:08:04pm

ok, one from The Empire Strikes Back:

"That was never a part of our deal, nor was giving the blogger to this Bounty Hunter!"

"Perhaps you think you're being treated unfairly?" (menacing tone)

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mich-again Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:10:16pm

BTW.. Max Fisher died today at the age of 96. He was a great American who gave so much to the Detroit area. We will miss his optimism, generosity and unique ability to bring people together for good causes.

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Sarah D. Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:11:13pm

#110 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The party of "let's do lunch!".

Yeah.

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Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:11:25pm

"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid."

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Obi-Wan Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:12:12pm

#119 Eagle

Don't forget, all that happened long, long ago in a galaxy far, far away.

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rightasrain Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:12:39pm

"Release him, Vader."

[The guy's face clunks onto the table.]

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RebTex Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:13:41pm

Martha Stewart gets out!
I wonder if she needs a pool boy?!

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rightasrain Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:14:43pm

Martha Stewart will probably go back to being a CEO.

She might need 5 or 10 pool boys. :)

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CrimsonFisted Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:14:47pm

Keep those star wars references coming! Dihgann Caroll is about to sing in this star wars thing I am watching! I see why George Lucas buried it. Too bad this isn't on a FNDT.

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Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:15:41pm

OK, now I've got the grove going for Star Wars quotes:

On Rather Gate vs bloggers:

CBS Exec: We've analyzed their attack, sir, and there is a danger. Should I have your ship standing by?

Dan Rather: Evacuate? In our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances.

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RebTex Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:15:54pm

Crimson Fisted
It's Friday Night somewhere!

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rightasrain Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:16:38pm

#128 Krager

Dan Rather: Evacuate? In our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances.

Good one! :)

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CrimsonFisted Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:16:52pm

#128

That is GREAT!

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Eagle Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:17:09pm

1 more...

{Charles, a small yet stately and wise lizard is speaking to his Lizard apprentice - Eagle}

Eagle: Oh, no. We'll never get The Truth out now.
{Eagle stamps his foot in irritation. }
Charles: So certain are you. Always with you it cannot be done. Hear you nothing that I say?
{Eagle looks uncertainly out at the blogosphere}
Eagle: Master, moving stones around is one thing. This is totally different.
Charles: No! No different! Only different in your mind. You must unlearn what you have learned.
Eagle (focusing, quietly): All right, I'll give it a try.
Charles: No! Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try.

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rightasrain Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:18:01pm

#132 Eagle

GREAT! :)

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song_and_dance_man[deleted] Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:18:42pm

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CrimsonFisted Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:19:22pm

#132
Perfect. Just. Perfect.

What more can be said?

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Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:19:58pm

DNC: We count 30 rebel blogs, George, but they are so small they're evading our left wing bias.

Soros: We'll have to destroy them blog to blog. Get the crews to their fighters.

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Iron Fist[deleted] Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:20:31pm

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Eagle Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:22:06pm

#136 Proud to be Kafir
ROTFLMAO!

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Ward Cleaver Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:22:09pm

I nominate Kos for Iranian Minister of Blogs.

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CrimsonFisted Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:23:09pm

#139
Seconded!

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rightasrain Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:23:27pm

#139 Ward Cleaver

I nominate Kos for Iranian Minister of Blogs.

Iranian Minister of Disinformation, too. :)

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Obi-Wan Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:25:03pm

"I'm not afraid!"

"You will be, young blogger. You will be."

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Ward Cleaver Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:25:15pm

#139

And the mullahs unleash the Kos Kops.

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Shammer Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:26:09pm

85 Ed from Ohio

which fox news girl is everyones favorite

Although agreeing with song_and_dance_man's post, I would have to go with Patti Ann Browne.

Don't get me wrong, the Kiren, Juliet, Dari, Lauri phases come and go; Patti has that "hi, I'm your next door neighbor in a new-build subdivision" kind of cuteness.

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CrimsonFisted Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:27:18pm

#143

Any resemblance to the Keystone Kops, those Kos Kops?

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Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:28:05pm

on taking on the MSM:

new blogger: I can't. It's too big.
Veteran blogger: Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you? Hmm? Hmm. And well you should not.

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rightasrain Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:29:30pm

I love Yoda-speak. :)

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Eagle Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:34:03pm

1 more, then to bed...

CBS execs: What is it, General?

Mapes: My lord, the fleet has moved out of the Bush Guard Memos. Com-Scan has detected an energy field protecting an area around the Fifth Column of the Sol system. The field is strong enough to deflect any bombardment.

CBS Exec: (angrily) The Bloggers are alerted to our presence. Admiral Blather came out of reporting too close to the system.

Mapes: He felt surprise was wiser...

CBS Exec: He is as clumsy as he is stupid. General, prepare your troops for a denial attack.

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SJKevin Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:34:17pm

Off-topic:

Thai muslims in the south (where all the jihad's going on) held an anti-insurgency demonstration:

[Link: www.bangkokpost.net...]

I don't know whether or not this actually means much, but I'm not complaining. More please.

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quark2 Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:36:01pm

@137 Iron Fist

G'night IF. :)

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Shammer Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:36:09pm

Admiral Rather : Our ships have sighted the O2K Rove , Lord. But it has entered an asteroid blogging field and we can not risk...

Darth Mapes: Asteroids Bloggers do not concern me, Admiral. I want that Architect, not excuses.

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withintheheart Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:38:16pm

red ken is at it again:

'Israel's expansion includes ethnic cleansing,' he said. 'Palestinians who had lived in that land for centuries were driven out by systematic violence and terror aimed at ethnically cleansing what became a large part of the Israeli state.' He added: 'Today the Israeli government continues seizures of Palestinian land for settlements, military incursions into surrounding countries and denial of the right of Palestinians expelled by terror to return. Ariel Sharon, Israel's Prime Minister, is a war criminal who should be in prison not in office.'

i think his days are numbered.

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Robert D Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:38:48pm

#144 Shammer

BINGO! I wondered when sombody would see the wholesome, pretty, and just great looks.

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NY Nana Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:43:03pm

#109 Sarah D.

{*{*{*{*{*{*Sarah D.*}*}*}*}*}*} Thanks..will do! We are used to it.

#120 mich-again

Sad. I got this from the Jewish Rep. Coalition in an email today:

Death of Max M. Fisher
RJC Founding Chairman
March 03, 2005

With deep sadness, the Republican Jewish Coalition notes the passing of its founding chairman and visionary leader, Max M. Fisher. Max Fisher, known as "the dean of Jewish Republicans," was 96.
Mr. Fisher was an advisor and friend to every Republican president since Eisenhower. As the Quiet Diplomat (the title of the 1992 biography of Mr. Fisher by Peter Golden), he played a unique role in U.S.-Israel relations for many years.

A leader and mentor in the Republican Party for more than five decades, Mr. Fisher founded the National Jewish Coalition in 1985 to give Jewish Republicans a permanent, public presence in both the Jewish community and the Republican Party.

Today, as a result of Max Fisher's hard work and vision, the Republican Jewish Coalition (renamed in 2000) has 17,000 members nationwide, 35 local chapters in major Jewish community population centers, and four regional offices in addition to the national headquarters in Washington, DC. As the national grassroots organization of Jewish Republicans, the RJC has become the well-respected and effective voice for Jewish Republicans to Republican decision makers in all levels of government and to the greater Jewish community.

RJC National Chairman Sam Fox said, "Max inspired many, many people to get involved in the political process and to make a difference for our community and our country. His impact goes far beyond his own record of activism and involvement He was indeed a giant."

Past RJC Chairman Richard Fox said, "We are deeply saddened to lose such a good friend, but it is also a time to look back and celebrate Max's tremendous accomplishments. He was raised by hard- working immigrant parents. He carried the values they taught him into everything he did and became one of the most generous and influential American Jewish leaders in history."

Past RJC Chairman George Klein said, "It has been a special privilege to call Max Fisher a friend. He was a leader and a man of principle. He was not one of those who wanted fame or prestige. Max focused on doing what was right, what was needed, what would help. We will miss him very much."

Past RJC Chairman Cheryl Halpern said, "I learned so much from Max about politics, about leadership, and about people. He was a mentor and role model to me and to many others across the country. His passing is a great loss for all of us."

RJC Executive Director Matt Brooks said, "Max Fisher instilled in me a passion for working within the Jewish community and a passion for politics. He taught me that politics was about serving the community, and that it demands integrity, character, and principle. That is the example Max set and the legacy he left us."

Mr. Fisher's wise counsel, generous support, and warm friendship have been deeply appreciated by the leaders and staff of the RJC. With his passing we have a lost a great friend, a leader in the truest sense. He will be sorely missed.

Republican Jewish Coalition

He was an amazing man. May he rest in peace.

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quark2 Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:50:21pm

military incursions into surrounding countries

Maybe Red Ken would like to be a bit more specific about just which surrounding countries Israel is making military incursions into? Unless of course he's alluding to the mythical and non existant country of [bigoted word]istan.

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Sarah D. Thu, Mar 3, 2005 6:56:37pm

For all us old timers, here's what I'm listening to.

Uriah Heep

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NY Nana Thu, Mar 3, 2005 7:15:39pm

#152 withintheheart, #155 Quark2&hearts:

Hmmm, verrry interesting that both the rag that worships fisk, al-independent, and the equally hateful...well almost, al-guardian feature this re red ken: Sharon is war criminal says Livingstone

...Mr Livingstone said the Israeli government presented a "wholly distorted picture of racism and religious discrimination in Europe", so it appeared Jews suffered most discrimination.

"The reality is that the great bulk of racist attacks in Europe today are on black people, Asians and Muslims. They are the primary targets of the extreme right."

Relations between the mayor and key sections of the Jewish community are tense because of his clash with the Evening Standard reporter Oliver Finegold and his subsequent refusal to apologise, and his invitation to the Muslim cleric Yusuf al-Qaradawi to speak at a conference in London last year.

One of Mr Livingstone's most high-profile critics following the clash with Mr Finegold was Zvi Heifetz, the Israeli ambassador to London.

He said last night: "The mayor is confused once again. Ethnic cleansing was perpetrated in the concentration camps which he should know being such an expert on them.

"The dozens of world leaders who attended the London meeting only two days ago [all commend Mr] Sharon, for his courageous steps to achieve peace in the Middle East. ***

Commenting on the row with an article in Wednesday's Guardian, Henry Grunwald of the Board of Deputies said Mr Livingstone must reverse his stance and make amends, adding: "He has let us down. He has let his office down. Oliver Finegold deserves an apology, Holocaust survivors deserve an apology, the Jewish community deserves an apology and most of all, London deserves an apology. Then we can all move on."

The Board of Deputies has triggered an investigation into Mr Livingstone's conduct by the local government watchdog, the Standards Board for England.

A spokesman for the Board of Deputies last night accused Mr Livingstone of seeking to deflect attention away from his own behaviour by attacking Israel...

I still cannot understand, as I have said before, how on earth he was ever elected as the first Mayor of London, after the dissolution of the GLC..and the elected for a second term. I am afraid that London is growing ever closer to becoming a part of Eurabia, and it breaks my heart. I never felt like I was in "Europe' when I was in London..now? I don't think I will be going back for a visit again.

*** Sadly, the reporter ,who was spit on verbally by red ken, does not seem aware of the truth re Israel, nor of the horrific spread of Jew hate not only in London, but all over the UK. I fear that he is being PC to protect his own life.

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Ojoe Thu, Mar 3, 2005 7:27:48pm

No. 22 Nagasaki hata: What IS the "big brother" clause in the Constitution? I will look for an answer in the morning. Good night all.

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quark2 Thu, Mar 3, 2005 7:30:26pm

@157 NY Nana

Like you, I have no intentions of going back to England again.
I will just have to remember all of the lovely places I love over there.

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Sarah D. Thu, Mar 3, 2005 7:32:13pm

Hey all,

I'm taking emails for all that are able to support the Iraqi bloggers with anon proxy servers. Email me if you're able and willing.

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jscorse2 Thu, Mar 3, 2005 8:07:02pm

Much respect to LGF for pointing this stuff out. I take immense issue, however, with your readers who say that the Left would like to censor bloggers as well. I don't even know how to respond except by saying that if you think the Left has been on the side against freedom of speech in this country you're on drugs and should check yourself into a clinic quick. We may all not agree but all bloggers across the political spectrum believe that the medium is an essential component of democracy.

J.S.

www.voices of reason.info

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jscorse2 Thu, Mar 3, 2005 8:09:50pm

I just remembered, who was the one who said to all Americans "watch what you say"? Was it those terrible liberals? No, ir was Ari Fleischer right after 9/11- if you think the Bush admin has been a champion of free speech in this country I have a bridge to sell you. Right-wingers of the world, check yourselves!

J.S.

[Link: voices...] of reason.info

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quark2 Thu, Mar 3, 2005 8:19:09pm

The Left would never censor free speech, especially from the Right. They just yell any disagreeable discourse down.

/there's no censor move along now

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foreign devil Thu, Mar 3, 2005 9:47:28pm

Plus the Democrats want to impose restrictions on the Internet and specifically on bloggers. America is not immune to repression of the bloggers as an earlier thread to this testifies.

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Baldy Fri, Mar 4, 2005 1:06:13am

OT: Japanese Archeologists to Study Afghan Buddhist Relics (Japan Times)

Under the agreement between Ryukoku University and Afghanistan's National Institute of Archaeology, the school will cover the expenses for the fieldwork while the institute will provide logistic support where feasible.

They also agreed to promote academic exchanges.

Thank you US and Allies for freeing Afghanistan. A few years ago, these would have been destroyed by the Taliban.

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Studsup Fri, Mar 4, 2005 4:28:02am

This is exactly the fate that lies in store for us if McCain and his cronies have their way.

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Poitiers-Lepanto Fri, Mar 4, 2005 4:50:51am

Four centuries ago, in Europe, a clandestine army of Freedom Fighters was constantly on the move to escape the "contracts " put on the heads of its "soldiers" by this or that Power of Darkness:

they were the PRINTERS.

They published the books that had not the IMPRIMATUR ("Be it Printed") of the Authorities.
The heavy presses were difficult to move from hiding place to hiding place.
Laptops are easier.

The bloggers are today's Army of the Enlightenment.

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alegrias Fri, Mar 4, 2005 5:32:19am

#162 jscorse2

It was anti-free speech Democrat operative Chad Clanton who threatened (not sure whom but all of us by extension and perhaps Sinclair Broadcasting in particular and anyone else who might tell a different story) "you better hope we don't win" or words to that effect because Swift boat veterans exercised their right of free speech.

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Powderfinger Fri, Mar 4, 2005 5:37:08am

#162 troll

I take immense issue, however, with your readers who say that the Left would like to censor bloggers as well. I don't even know how to respond except by saying that if you think the Left has been on the side against freedom of speech in this country you're on drugs and should check yourself into a clinic quick.

You really are clueless, aren't you?

Learn something today, ok?

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alegrias Fri, Mar 4, 2005 5:38:57am

#167 poitiers lepanto

Guttenberg morning, Middle East and fellow blog revolutionaries! Time to post 100 theses of free speech somewhere the Dems & islamofascists can't strike.

How revolting to see David Letterman's slobbering sycophantish promotion of Dan Rather last night as some kind of pillar. Now that he's a family man of sorts he's in protect the CBS family mode, excusing the inexcusable. What a sell out. Another LLL's mask falls.

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nagasaki_hata Fri, Mar 4, 2005 7:13:36am

#158 Ojoe
There isn't one! But that won't stop the one-worlder Liberals in black robes, not all Justices thanks be, from finding/inventing it. If they massage the First Amendment enough they may find we have no right to disagree as doing so creates a hate crime against others --- crazy but not unlikely given the state of PC.

Wish we could clone Scalia and Thomas and so get rid of a few of the others -- all of whom are liberals to one degree or other.

"Samizdat" is a beautiful word and a neccessary concept perhaps again.

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Zachary Cohen Fri, Mar 4, 2005 5:46:27pm

#162

"I just remembered, who was the one who said to all Americans "watch what you say"? Was it those terrible liberals? No, ir was Ari Fleischer right after 9/11"

And it was in reference to people who were making bigoted remarks about Muslims.

Dumbass.

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zulubaby Fri, Mar 4, 2005 5:51:30pm

jscorse2, weren't you banned back when you were just jscorse sans 2?

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zulubaby Fri, Mar 4, 2005 6:01:17pm

Hmmm ...

Something's not right.

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reaganfan Sat, Mar 5, 2005 1:20:20pm

The authorities of the world have attempted to regulate and even end the Internet. But they will fail. We shall be victorious.