I saw this earlier. Does this mean they're really waking up? Can we hope?

about time they wake up.

Bet those Dutch can infiltrate those Muslim groups undetected...

Better late then never...

The measure, which still must be passed by parliament, would allow intelligence agents to use currently banned techniques such as infiltrating terror cells for undercover operations and telephone taps, a Justice Ministry statement said

They can't use infiltration and phone tapping? Why? They really do need this to pass.

Good for them.

Europe or Eurabia?

Make your choice.

The Dutch were going to give four Jihadist Imams the boot. Three are appealing and the fourth was just a Mosque functionary and an illegal alien. He got immediate eviction.

#1, Sarah D. At least they are thinking about getting an alarm clock. Whether they can remember to set it is another matter.

Good for them. Will the rest of Europe wake up?

OMG--They get it. The Dutch want to live. The spriit and the intensity of the Dutch East India Company lives.Roayl Dutch Shell won't become Ryal Dhimmi Shell.
They aren't going to be like the Zapazero's Spinless Surrender Monkeys. (I saved that photo of the Sapniards in the town square surrendering,hands raised...Spit)

It doesn't say when they vote to pass this. Anyone know?

A Dutch version of the Patriot Act?

Yikes! Undercover agents and wiretaps? Better not let the ACLU hear about that or the Dutch will be tied up in American courts for years. :-)

Welcome...but is it too little too late?

Allowing their investigative services to perform these tasks is one thing - but will they actually do it? They don't do it now - do they have it in them?

I hope they do, but past practice...

They better keep quiet about this and not let Ted Kennedy find out!

"No more blood for oil!"
protestors shout. "Or for film"
Dutch tulips whisper.

that was an Haiku poem posted here; [Link: www.rogerlsimon.com...]

I think they are making a mistake by telling the suspects when they will be released. The detainees now merely have to be silent for 14 days and they will be free, regardless.

This is why it is important to be able to hold certain combatants, informants and terrorists indefinitely...their release (or remitted sentences) requires their cooperation...

OT: [Link: www.arabnews.com...]

Got to read this regarding Clinton:

“Iran is the only country in the world that has now had six elections since the first election of President Khatami (in 1997). (It is) the only one with elections, including the United States, including Israel, including you name it, where the liberals, or the progressives, have won two-thirds to 70 percent of the vote in six elections: Two for president; two for the Parliament, the Majlis; two for the mayoralties. In every single election, the guys I identify with got two-thirds to 70 percent of the vote. There is no other country in the world I can say that about, certainly not my own.”

So, while millions of Iranians, especially the young, look to the United States as a mode of progress and democracy, a former president of the US looks to the Islamic Republic as his ideological homeland.

But who are “the guys” Clinton identifies with?

There is, of course, President Muhammad Khatami who, speaking at a conference of provincial governors last week, called for the whole world to convert to Islam."

--- Another Jimmer Carter in the making...

You can only hit the snooze button so many times before you have to wake up.

#10 Sarah D.

I dunno, the way that the Dutch work it could be 30 days to 3 years. With the public outcry over this stuff however, I'd expect it to be passed quickly and a few amendments attached to it as well. A friend of mine who's Dutch will be having his mother come over for a month, she'll be coming in next week. I'm going to see if I can get a chance to talk to her about all of this while she's here.

She's very paranoid about what's going on. She moved to Holland to escape problems here(got shot and stabbed by her ex), only to be stabbed by "muslim youth's" outside her home.

I hope they stick with it. Holland is a beautiful country and I hate to think of it controlled by Islamofacists. Just imagine what they'd do to the rijksmuseum and -yikes - Ann Frank's house. And they'd probably turn Erasmus's house into a mosque too. ugh. Stay tough, Dutchers!

#20 Mashiki

Good Lord! That poor woman! She needs to move to Western NC. I didn't even have the keys to the house I rented - there weren't any!

And I got into the habit of leaving the keys in my car.

No work there, but no crime either!

Let us know what she has to say.

Queue nashing (SP?) of teeth in Al Reuters, BBC, Le Monde etc.

Wait a minute. Isn't this prosecution going to humiliate the Muslims?

ROPMA.

Where are the moderate, peace loving Muslims? On a Peace March someplace? Speaking out against the barbarities their brothers and sisters are committing every single day?

I pray this is only the start of the Dutch fighting for their country and taking it back.

OHO! (OT)

Saudi Arabia's rulers warned Syrian President Bashar Assad on Thursday to begin withdrawing his country's troops from Lebanon or risk damaging relations between their countries

[Link: story.news.yahoo.com...]
sorry if this is old news

OTOH, Norwegian Kafir has the bad news from the Netherlands on his blog.

I'll let someone else post the link. I can't seem to do it right.

Hats off to the woodshoes...

Here is hoping you fight them with the same ferocity you showed the Spaniards in your fight for independence...

Welcome to the party, guys. Hope its not too late.

Tim McNabb
fivehundredwords.com

#22 Sarah D.:

She carries mace and a taser now. *shhh* Enough it enough was her words.

I'll definatly post what she has to say if I get a chance to talk to her. Last summer when she was here, I saw her once out of the 3 weeks she stayed the rest of the time she was catching up on relations in the area. I live in a large Dutch-immigrant area, so the community can be tight-knit...and I'll have to try and pry her away from them for a few. With new Dutch immigrants moving in as well, maybe I can get something from them as well.

If I get anything, I will post it.

#30 Mashiki

Thanks :-)

Okay - I'm off to bed with my box of tissues and a bottle of Nyquil.

Be safe lizards!

Anyone know how to say "Big Brother" in Dutch?

#31 Sarah D.

G'Night and sleep well!

I'm heading off as well, take it easy one and all.

#32 nagasaki_hata

Grote Broer

Babelfish will do wonders for you.

#31 Sarah D.

Good Night, and I hope you feel better. I just bought a big new bag of Ricola cough drops if you want any?

take good care!

OT: Great (just joking) journalism by AP.

Two shots to the head...
Hey it's "apparent suicide"

[Link: story.news.yahoo.com...]

Ex-Ukraine Official in Inquiry Found Dead

By ALEKSANDAR VASOVIC, Associated Press Writer

KIEV, Ukraine - The former interior minister was found dead in his home Friday, an apparent suicide, just before he was to be questioned about the 2000 slaying of an investigative journalist, dealing a blow to an inquiry that could implicate the former president.

Former Interior Minister Yuriy Kravchenko suffered two gunshot wounds to the head, a TV station reported he left a note blaming his suicide on former President Leonid Kuchma "and his entourage," and the journalist's widow suggested it was all part of a cover-up to protect "the old regime."

(This guy must have been fast on the trigger to pull this off!)

Dutch coffee shop system "threatened" - conservative attitudes "to blame"
Oh the horror

But the Dutch coffee shop system is under threat. According to one of the country's leading drug specialists and a government adviser, cannabis coffee shops and café-bars will be extinct within five years.

The number of cannabis outlets has already declined from a peak of nearly 1,500 to about 750. Only about a fifth of Dutch towns and cities have coffee shops, and that number is shrinking.

The clampdown is being blamed on a more conservative attitude by the coalition government and local mayors, and pressure from other European Union members who disapprove of the Dutch approach.

This shift in attitude was acknowledged by the United Nations earlier this week. The annual report by the International Narcotics Control Board (INCB), which is part of the UN, noted that the Netherlands' government had informed them of a "crucial and significant change in its policy on cannabis". It said that the Dutch government has promised to take tougher action against drug tourists, street dealing, cannabis growing, and the coffee shops.

Oranje Boven!

G'nite Sarah. :)
Take care of that cold.

Splendid. It's a good start. It doesn't address their hopeless demographic problems or the rampant rapes and murders from their massive, entrenched Muslim population -- but it's a start.

This is really unbelievable, I read this and just remembered the story from earlier with the shoot out at the police station.

[Link: www.worldtribune.com...]

The Palistinians may actually have real leadership that has a goal besides being a Myrtr for a lost cause. Something like dealing with reality and working to help what is left of thier people live.

This is very interesting and amazing the difference that has been made as quickly as it has sinse the Americans being forced to get fully involved. Why america is the nation always chosen to finish what the world starts who knows. Hopefully we can hold the momentum. Lebanon free election then Syria uprising and of course the fanally Iranian uprising maybe the latter 2 under a umbrella of steel provided by thier fellow free men from across the big pond.

Go Dutch boy..
You can do it...
Its your birthday!

#32 and anyone else concerned in "Big Brother" oppression: the Dutch have this problem with Muslims abusing the Dutch PRECISELY because the Dutch have shown themselves courteous and mature enough to step back from search-and-seizure laws (not necessary under normal conditions) when circumstances once again warrant a more relaxed atmosphere.

It is difficult to 'relax' when Muslim fascists are stabbing you in the streets!

OT: The Islamo-Fascist friction is heating up in southern Thailand, as of 1400 Saturday, BKK time.

Sounds like the Dutch have it all going in the right direction now. They still have the problems to deal with but they're awake. Mercifully! At last! Now for the rest of the continent!

#21 BP

I hate to think of it controlled by Islamofacists. Just imagine what they'd do to the rijksmuseum and -yikes - Ann Frank's house. And they'd probably turn Erasmus's house into a mosque too. ugh.

I'm puzzled how islamofacists manage to coexist with Amsterdam's red lights in the first place.

46 doubledip

The answer is, they don't. They hate the district, the coffee shops and the permissiveness and if they had their way, they wouldn't exist. Recently, the police picked up one of our dear islamoids (a pizza delivery guy of all things), who was plotting to detonate bombs in the district.

The funny thing is, when I have visitors from the states here with us in the Netherlands, of course, the first thing they want to see/visit is the district. I'm always amazed at the number of arabic/paki/african customers busily patronizing the prostitutes. Thought that wasn't allowed to the followers of old Mo...

Well, there are lots of Brits and German visitors, too...

You've made your rulings (laws), now try to enforce them!

Andrew Jackson

Because of the disparity in the reproduction rates of the Muslim population of Europe and the indigenous non-Muslim population, eventually Europe will become a Muslim land. Muslim populations today tend to double about every generation. But the non-Muslim population of Europe is declining, because the birth rate is even less than the mortality rate. Where this is leading demographically is obvious.

And because democracy is established, and because of the coherence of the ummah, it is obvious where the power is going to be in the future.

However the transition does not have to be violent and bloody, or at least the violence and terrorism does not have to start now while the Muslim population is still a minority and the indigenous non-Muslim population has the means to defend itself.

What the Dutch have done can provide an example to the rest of the Europeans.

Whoa.

The Dutch government approved a new terrorism bill Friday that grants law-enforcement authorities far-reaching powers of investigation and allowing them to hold suspects for up to two weeks without charges.

Someone can be imprisoned for two weeks on a whim? That's almost as scary as the threat of terrorism. (Let me put it this way: is there anything to prevent some Islamozoid or a hard-core Lephtoid from gaining a position of authority, and detain without charges their political opponents? We've already seen legal moonbattery in Belgium, etc., regarding Ariel Sharon.)

Of course, I'm going to treat this report with some suspicion. It seems to have a poor understanding of legal terms:

They [intelligence agents] will also be allowed to use entrapment tactics, such as bogus sales transactions.

A bogus sales transaction is not an entrapment tactic.

I figured the Dutch would simply surrender. This looks like an effort, however half-hearted.

What they need to do is to expel all the immigrants TODAY.

At times in history, the Dutch have been very strong of heart and mind. Let's hope that they can be so now...

#53 N.A. PALM
Could you give an example? I could use a little proof.

Like I said yesterday, these are tougher laws than would ever pass in the US thanks to the ACLU. Moreover from reading these they seem to be appropriate for the crimes they target. Whether they'll actually be used we can only guess but this is a positive sign IMHO.

"This is too little, too late. The Jihadis have their sights on Holland, and nothing will stop them from taking it over -nothing. The Holland of the last 500 years is finished."

Brother bigel, you're right as rain when it comes to the islamo-nazis & how to deal with 'em...But I hope the Dutch prove you wrong on your assesment.

Belgium should take some lessons from their neighbor! There are now over 350,000 Muslims living here. Even the Inmans are paid by the government...no separation of church and state here. Never trust anyone with a Belgium passport. In February 2002, there was a report issued from Belgium that 19,050 blank passports were lost by the authorities. Brussels has become the new recruiting base for al-Qa'eda.

The measure, which still must be passed by parliament,

Here's hoping it's approved.

Let the whining and seething begin!

OT

Doctors said Sgrena was in stable condition after suffering a gunshot wound to her left shoulder, fracturing a bone and causing bruising to a lung.

The reports I heard said she wasn't shot.
Freed Italian Hostage Recalls U.S. Shooting

This is the equivalent of a death bed conversion.

Too little, too late.