Moonbat howl:

"Nooo!"

The "new" Domino theory :)

Thank you George w. Bush!

*Hears the wailing and gnashing of moonbat teeth*
Come on LLL's, just TRY to lipsync it.

Bush was right...again

Editorial from Dallas Morning News:

No doubt, the Middle East can always break your heart, but this Beirut spring is starting to look like an Arabic replay of 1989. "I was cynical about Iraq," said the Lebanese Druze warlord Walid Jumblatt. "But when I saw the Iraqi people voting three weeks ago, 8 million of them, it was the start of a new Arab world. The Berlin Wall has fallen."

Commander in Chief George W. Bush and the men and women of the U.S. armed forces were the ones who started pushing. Remember that.

Morocco, Iraq, Lebanon, Afghanistan,... University of Colorado.

I can't believe this is happening. It's too good to be true. I'm keeping my fingers crossed and not counting my chickens before they've hatched.

I have to say President Bush has turned out to be the best President of my lifetime in terms of foreign policy.

... so pleased I voted for 'im.

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BUSHITLER, DAMMIT!

THIS WOULD HAVE HAPPENED ANYWAY.

DEMOCRACY IS NOT ON THE MARCH.

/stomps feet, pushes mask back into place

... and so relieved, every day, that Kerry is not running the show.

Seethe on moonbats, seethe on.

Well, actually the Western Sahara (formerly the Spanish Sahara) is illegally occupied by Morocco. I didn't know POLISARIO was supported by Algeria, but whatever. All-in-all, it's just another episode of the spiders-in-a-jar intra-Arab rivalry.

I say, the more the better.

"There's still hope that all this could fail."
-Whats Her Face on The Daily Show
(I guess I don't subconsciously feel she's important enough to remember her name, I keep looking it up, and keep forgetting)

OT:

But I have figured out why there were so many Jews at the Starbucks this morning.

BTW, I hope our Jewish visitors to Houston have taken advantage of the underground parking garage at the office tower/hotel/shopping mall/ice rink and food court complex, as hail the size of various monetary denominations is approaching.

WSR-88D NexRad Doppler Radar from Houston-Galveston.

Look further... I have a suspicion that those imprisoned are Jihadists and Muslim Brotherhood types. Same ones that need suppressing the way Hosni Mubarak does in Egypt. Have to run now, will find the truth on this thread later.

P.S.: What ever happened to the Arab Street that will generate infinite Bin Ladens out of righteous anger at American policies?

Globular Cluster

I can't believe this is happening. It's too good to be true. I'm keeping my fingers crossed and not counting my chickens before they've hatched.

... and so relieved, every day, that Kerry is not running the show.

You read my mind and published it!

OT, maybe:

Bush names hardliner as UN envoy

Suck on that, Kofi. You too, Jacques. Four more years, baby!

Seriously, guys, check your sources better.

Look at this post from the previous thread.

The language in the quoted passage above makes it very clear that it's from some pro-official line Moroccan source.

This has nothing to do with "freedom".

The Moroccan dictator-king sits safely on his throne and these demonstrations are totally benign as far as he's concerned.

It is such an easy test.

If you can read about the citizens of any country making a step towards throwing off their oppressors or chains, and your first reaction is "NO!" because it makes your political opponent look good, then you are on the wrong side. Dare I say it? You are evil.

Is this the same country churning out the Moroccans that are helping to turn Europe into a Eurabian shithole? The same country that produced the Madrid bombers?

And on and on and on ...

I have a really hard time giving a shit about what these people want.

I'm also not sure what Bush has to do with this. The Moroccans are protesting against Algeria, not their own government.

18

Of course none of this would have happened if Kerry was running the show.

You have to wonder that if Bush suddenly left and a weak-ass "leader" like Kerry were installed, if everything would end right now in the ME and we'd go backwards. I vote yes.

It didn't matter in 1993 as communism was finished (for the most part) by the time Clinton got in.

All that shouting over so much sand! There must be oil there somewhere...its all about the oil isn't it?

Is there any oil on the campus at CU Boulder?

OT--I hear BONO is up for the chairmanship of the world bank

Marvin Moonbat:
"Uhhh, thank you GW b..."
"Uhhh, thank you ,,,"
"Uhhh"
{snapping sound}

"US has NOT ADOPTED the METRIC SYSTEM cause HALIBURTON is adjusting volumetric data on KILLER BEES and LOCUSTS!"

///Moonbat off

Let me repeat that:

This has nothing to do with calls for democracy, MMKAAAY.

Better fact-checking in future, please.

# 19 pf

"He also reportedly said in 1994 that it would not make any difference if the UN headquarters in New York lost 10 of its storeys"

The guy has my vote!
:-)

Between his nomination & LLL-loser CU twit resigning it's been a good news Monday so far!
:-)

I will thank halal-Commander-in-Chief Bush when he stops celebrating ramadan with the very same people who are killing Americans, Europeans and others in the name of allah [*spit!*] and global jihad, stops calling islam a great religion of peace and when he stops strengthening islam's influence and power in countries such as Iraq.

The point is not that they're protesting for democracy -- it's that they're protesting at all.

George W. Bush - Saving your a$$ whether you like it or not.

All that shouting over so much sand! There must be oil there somewhere...its all about the oil isn't it?

Check the link in #20. If you follow it, you'll see the CIA Fact File on Western Sahara.

The territory may have oil. Fishing is rich off its coasts.

Government-approved protests in Morocco really aren't news.

Are they?

OT--I hear BONO is up for the chairmanship of the world bank

Bono's a decent guy as far as pop stars go, but his thing seems to be forgiving all debts. It doesn't sound like his bank would be in business very long.

waiting for pessimism from Kos and DU in 5 .. 4 .. 3 .. 2 ..

Bush was right!

Neener-neener-neener!

I wonder if Bono would give me a loan for a few million

The point is not that they're protesting for democracy -- it's that they're protesting at all.

Affirmative.

But why should they thank W, who is just a greedy warmongering KKK fascist? The real thanks are due to MoveOn.org, and Michael Moore, Susan Sarandon, Noam Chomsky, and all those others who set for them the brave example of standing up to dictators!

I know it's true, I read it on the Internet!

/iowahawk

Ummm, they're protesting Algeria. They're not calling for democracy in their own country.

Whatever.

Thank you Georege. W. Bush.
Now watch this drive.

I got in a debate last week with a couple of Dems on foriegn policy. I politely reminded them that they probably said the exact same things in the 1980's when talking about Reagan the Soviets and Central America.

One of them actually said that Reagan had nothing to do with the fall of communism. That Gorbachav should get all the credit.

Golden Jerusalem, Thom:

As far as I'm concerned, those "spontaneous" protests may not just be approved, but actually organized by the government.

The point is not that they're protesting for democracy -- it's that they're protesting at all.

Yeah, but in a completely government-sanctioned way.

This would be no different from, say, Syrians demonstrating against Israel in Damascus.

So what? Is that gonna worry the gov't there?

Now watch this drive.

It's leaving!?! Good!

#40 Dave the...

Yes, yes, and the lack of terrorist attacks on US soil after 911 simply prove that all the time, effort, and money fighting the terrorists has been unneccessary.

/sarc

Meanwhile Algeria's dude Bouteflika is partying in Madrid with Bill Clinton & Kofi Annan at a how-to-end terrorism conference!

#41 Q:

As far as I'm concerned, those "spontaneous" protests may not just be approved, but actually organized by the government.

That's exactly the point. It's completely in line with the gov't and the king and no threat to the non-democratic status quo whatsoever.

It's even linked from a Moroccan newspaper which gots to be under some form of gov't control/censorship.

This one's way off the mark, guys.

ATTENTION LADIES
Have you had your aspirin today?
Study: Aspirin Prevents Strokes in Women

ORLANDO, Fla. - Middle-age women can cut their risk of strokes but not heart attacks by regularly taking low doses of aspirin, and the pills help prevent both problems in women 65 and older, a major study found.

The results are opposite what is known about aspirin in men, where its benefit for stroke is limited and its ability to prevent heart problems is legendary. Since women proportionately suffer more strokes and men more heart attacks, this is generally good news, specialists said.

Researchers also found that taking vitamin E did no good for women of any age, confirming a study last fall that concluded supplements of this nutrient could even be harmful.

The new information comes from the Women's Health Study, the first rigorous, scientific test of whether long-term use of aspirin or vitamin E made a difference in cardiovascular risk in females. Previous research has been almost exclusively in males.

Findings were reported Monday at an American College of Cardiology meeting in Orlando. They also were being published online by the New England Journal of Medicine (news - web sites) and will be in the March 31 print edition.
...

#39 liberality

Now watch this drive.

A thousand bucks says I can out drive you. I'll even use an old persimmon driver.

Thanks for hanging around. Your petulant and obstinate refusal to acknowledge anything good about George W. Bush reaffirms my sometimes wavering commitment to the Republican Party. If the Democrats had some adults in charge of foreign policy I might have to make a difficult choice. Thanks to Kerry, Kennedy, Boxer, Pelosi, and posters like you, I can relax.

#19 Powderfinger:

He also reportedly said in 1994 that it would not make any difference if the UN headquarters in New York lost 10 of its storeys.

I think I might like this guy as our UN rep! Hope he makes it through the Congress.

#39 liberality

a michael moore-on

(I meant to do that, punctuation police)

liberality:

That was clever. It was a reference to Moore's materpiece was it not?

You know he spliced that together and the bomb they were referring to was nothing to do with 9/11. A very good job of editing. The man may be full of shit but he is a good editor.

Moore played guys like you for suckers, but what the hell there is one born every second.

The point is not whether all these people are going to be Democrats or Republicans or anything like that. It is that they are saying what they think without fear.

#41 Q

Hallelujah! Golden Jerusalem and I have some company!

LOL. :)

Thank you Georege. W. Bush.
Now watch this drive.

Oh great. In addition to atrocious grammar and spelling, we are also treated to a Fearandhate 911 reference.

I think someone's trying to usurp LOVE ME DADDY! as house troll.

Well, I agree with Golden Jerusalem. These "protests" have oocured before. I remember when the current King's father, King Hasan, even led some of these "protests."

#40 Dave the...

Communism is alive & well and trying to make its comeback aided by LLLs such as red Ms. Sgerna making nice with comradely Baaascists & terrorists; red Daniel Ortega being nominated by the Sandinistas to run Nicaragua into the toilet again; Putin trying to reconstitute the USSR of his youth...Al Zawahiri, Bashar al Assad, etc. using islamocommie tactics...sorry. But freedom's on the march and lord bless GWBush & Rummy & our allies.

Next step: Lubya, Dubya.

Well ok, that might be expecting a little too much. Still ...

Ferchrissakes, listen to this:

Until noon demonstrators were still chanting slogans against Algeria. Though the weather was too hot today, Moroccans remained faithfull to the spirit of the march.

So reads the last paragraph of the article from Morocco Times, linked above.

It might as well have been from Pravda.

Sorry, but this one shoulda been fact-checked and wasn't.

Oh the horror of it it all! Freedom breaking out all over the middle east and these muslim countries. Whose responsible?

Oh yeah, President George W Bush!

[do I really need to add the /end sarc tag for the first part of this post?]

39

Permanent Minority party status. Go nuts join the green party, it sure won't matter now.

AAARRRGGGHHH!

Ha Ha
/munse

The point is not that they're protesting for democracy -- it's that they're protesting at all.

They'll be back for more.

#57 Golden Jerusalem

I don't think anyone is listening ...

Q, T, GJ, etc.

OK -- ya got us -- it's a sham ...

{unfortunately Charles is probably off actually paying the bills for a bit and this is the last thread, so, what else are we supposed to do?!}

Charles, you need to link to LGF commenter Atlasshrugs huge report on the conference yesterday at Columbia U on academic freedom and antisemitism. (Bloggers Mary of Exit Zero and I were also there, but Pamela got her notes and pix on her blog first. Check it out.)

Can we let Charles sing a few stanzas of "Freedom for Muslims in Middle East"? (sorry for clumsy reference to The Producers' "Springtime for Adolf in Germany" theme)

#61 Thom:

Yeah, I kinda got the same feelin'...

Oh well, good job pointing this out anyways. :>))

#7 HAR-HAR.

#48 Beagle

I think we're due for some spring cleaning of trolls. There are a number of cobwebs that need to be swept away...

Golden Jerusalem, Q, and Thom -- you guys seem to me to be correct. It reminds me of the million person pro-Castro demonstrations in Havana.

Oh, I'm listening. Just don't totally agree. Yes, the government does sponsor and approve protests. However, this one seems to be more about people wanting unlawful prisoners freed, instead of the anti-war spectacles staged by the government. The point is that people in all these countries are feeling more free to express their views in public.

It's also a great opportunity to drive people like liberality into a Michael Moore-quoting snit.

Charle's Waves of Freedom reach Morocco. May it become a Surfin' Safari, a Tsunami of Freedom.

Bush Waves Roll Middle East without firing a shot. And I like it, like it, yes I do.

Isn't it just wonderful how Muslims are brothers in faith of Christians?

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

The same minister told me that one day he handed out one of his pamphlets to a Muslim whom he describes as a "lovely, dignified, old gentleman". The Muslim said to him that their two faiths essentially pointed in the same direction, but when the minister, as tough Protestants do, pointed out that there was a fundamental difference, because Christians believe that Jesus was the Son of God, the old man said, quite seriously: "Oh, sir, please do not say that again, or I shall have to kill you: it is such blasphemy."

Now would be a great time for me to see if there are any Morrocan blogs out there. Anypne npw any before i check?

In a completely unrelated story, I just finished watching Team America.

F*ck, that was funny! I love the scene with Kim Jong-Il and Hans Blix. HA-HAR!

Charles,

You've put me in Beach Boys mood! Thank you for the mood alteration from Reagan Country. Many good things begin in California.

6,000 Americans died on 9/11 ...

Thank you, President Bush!

North Korea has nukes, Iran will have them soon ...

Thank you, President Bush!

My grades weren't so great this semester ...

Thank you, President Bush!

(Geez, you're right. It is easy to give President Bush credit for anything and everything that happens under his watch without considering the global context in which it happens.)

Oh, and I almost forgot ...

Over 1,500 soldiers have died in Iraq, and who knows how many Iraqis.

THANK YOU, PRESIDENT BUSH! (May I have another?)

#73 GJ
That's Brix. Hans Brix.
Is that funny or what?

#75 halal

(Troll coordinates for snipers)

OT, Tuhrayza is up to her old wacky hijinks in the great Northwest

Clueless in Seattle

COUNTING THE VOTES: Heinz Kerry is openly skeptical about results from November's election, particularly in sections of the country where optical scanners were used to record votes.

#14 Ed Mahmood...

Yowee! So is Houston going underwater again?

O moonbats: It is actually a big relief to see things as they really are.

This is called, "flushing out the moonbats."

#65 Golden Jerusalem

Maybe like ... bold and, umm ... italics and ALL CAPS and like BOLD ITALIC ALL CAPS would help.

:)

#69 Charles

But the prisoners are being held by Algeria. When they protest prisoners unjustly held by their own Moroccan government, then I'll whoop it up with everyone else.

And, it goes without saying (although I'm about to say it), that a new air does seem to be drifting through the Arab/Moslem world. But this probably is not an example.

# 75

"6,000"

Hmm, moonbat math at its finest ...

GAZE

However, this one seems to be more about people wanting unlawful prisoners freed, instead of the anti-war spectacles staged by the government

Charles,

Those guys were taken prisoner during Morocco's war in West Sahara. This war was fought mainly against an Algerian proxy, the POLISARIO.

If you listen to the language of the article, it is abundantly clear that there's a nationalist theme there, including references to how West Sahara belongs to Morocco. Oh, and: The Arab League summit is in Algiers in two weeks.

This all has the Official Morocco Gov't Stamp of Approval.

#78 Sir Lurksalot

Dear tuh-RAY-zuh, shut up and eat your gin-soaked raisins.

#40 Dave the ...

One of them actually said that Reagan had nothing to do with the fall of communism. That Gorbachav should get all the credit.

Funny you should write that, one of my liberal friends (who is not a LLL) once said the exact same thing to me. I almost laughed out loud. He also used to tell me that Jimmy Carter was recognized by most historians as a better President then RR. I said who, Arthur Schlesinger? Eventually due to Jimmy Carter's anti Israel statements he changed from being a Carter supporter, yet to this day I suspect he could never bring himself to pull the lever for a Republican no matter whom the Democratic opponent is. Very sad indeed.

#81 Charles

It is stirring them up. Post that picture of Corrie ripping up the American flag. They like that one too!

So where the hell is nodroG today?

OT - Charles: last night on PBS in NY they had a great documentary on the Mamma & the Pappas. Did you catch it? Michelle Phillips is still hot although I suspect since her last husband was a plastic surgeon there has been some nip and tucks along the way. lol

6,000 Americans died on 9/11 ...

You wish.

But but but... Halliburton!
but but but... No blood for oil!
But but but...
I don't understand. I haven't felt this discombobulated since they switched Darrens on Bewitched!

/moonbat off

#76 J.D.:

America - F*ck YEAH! Comin' to save the motherf*ckin' day, YEAH!

I thought the sex scenes were pretty damn hilarious as well.

#81 Charles

This is called, "flushing out the moonbats."

Can we flush them down the toilet once we've flushed them out?

OT - While Democracy is taking root for the first time in Iraq and Afgahnistan ...

In the America's The Iron Fist of Hugo Chavez

Thuggocracy and support for insurgency Takes root in Venezuala.

Chavez uses India visit to blast U.S.

From bizarre to bizarro: News from Venezuela

The story on the attempt on Chavez' life gets more bizarre. Now the Venezuelan Vice-President says that it was the former US Ambassador to Venezuela Charles Shapiro that warned him about a possible attempt on Chavez' life. Rangel says that for "legal" reasons the US Government had to tell the Venezuelan Government about it.

OK, let me think out loud what is going on. The US Government decides it needs to get rid of Chavez, but because of legal reasons that prevent the US Government from killing a foreign President, then the US Government tells the Venezuelan Government to satisfy the US laws. I guess now that they have fullfilled the legal steps they can go ahead and do it, no? Interesting system!

In the same statements, rangel says that the result of the meeting between Chavez and Cisneros, who owns a TV station, is that now that TV station has stopped "conspiring" against Chavez. I gues they mean, has stopped saying bad things about the Government, which is called censorship anywhere else. Another achievement for Carter!

Meanwhile --

Other parts of the government budget go into buying 50 figher jets from Russia, into buying a license for manufacturing Kalashnikov assault rifles in Venezuela, into financing an average presidential spending rate of $60,000 a day (in a country were the yearly minimum wage is about $3,000), into paying for lobbying groups in the USA and propaganda in international media, and into supporting leftist movements in Latin America (oil for Castro, dollars for Morales, support for the FARC). And a large part of the money simply disappears into private hands. For instance, between 2 and 4 billion dollars went missing from the state's fund for macroeconomic stabilisation, and nobody knows where they are.

The Idealistic Left

How to moonbat spin this, hmmm...

I got nothin.

Seminar on "Biological Terrorism" Starts its works in Saudi Capital
[Link: www.spa.gov.sa...]

Riyadh, March 7, SPA -- Within the framework of its scientific programs for
2005, the Center of Studies and Research at Naif Arab University for
Security Sciences organized here today a seminar on "Biological Terrorism."

Experts from the Kingdom's Ministries of Interior, Justice and Health as
well as delegates from Jordan, Bahrain, Comoros, Sudan, Syria, Palestine,
Qatar, Iraq, Kuwait, Lebanon and Egypt are participating in the seminar.
--SPA

1435 Local Time
1135 GMT

Have a nice day.

I'm still waiting for it to come out on DVD.

After four years of missteps, blunders, and alienating our allies while emboldening our enemies, the President stumbled into some good fortune with the courage shown by the Iraqi people who were not killed in his war.

So, I'll say it again:
Thank you George W. Bush.

BTW, "Now watch this drive" is not "quoting Michael Moore." The quote is directly from the President.

Pakistan and Iran to conduct joint naval exercises
[Link: www.spa.gov.sa...]

Islamabad, March 7, SPA[Saudi Press Agency] -- Pakistan and Iran will
shortly conduct joint naval exercises to strengthen relations between their
navies, officials said.

They said that apart from a good opportunity for personnel of the two navies
to benefit from each other' s experiences, the exercise will help improve
naval procedures and doctrines.

Officials said that Iran's naval ships, "Iris Bandar Abbas" and "Iris
Larak," will carry out naval exercise with the Pakistan
Navy.
--SPA

1255 Local Time
0955 GMT

Have nicer day still... maybe this one with be with ideas for nuclear subs? Or maybe just "peaceful" purposes.

another way we should try to flush out some moonbats is next month on April 15th

since they are so in favor of higher taxes, let's see how many voluntarily pay more than they have too

there is a line on the 1040 for you to do that should you choose, so c'mon moonbats - let's pay some TAXES
gimme a "T"
gimme an "A"
gimme an "X"
gimme an "E"
gimme an "S"

what's that spell, TAXES
yes Loonbats, let's see you put your freakin' money where your mouth is and pay down the deficit
that you care so much about

just consider it as a donation to your favorite charity
oh, I forgot - you HATE the USA
well, then pretend it's for your favorite charity

#98 liberality
Need some wood?

88 Ward Cleaver

Waiting for Gordot? This is the kind of thread that draws one of his scathing denounciations...

Hmm, moonbat math at its finest ...

Facts aren't important when you're slamming Bush. It all about Halliburton and getting their oil.

# 98

"emboldening our enemies"

like, uh, M. Omar? B. Assad? M. Qaddafi?

STFU, STFD, -- GAZE city ...

There seems to be an unusual number of trolls on this thread.

98 Libratality

Yeah, it's just the luck of a moron, these aren't the 'droids you're looking for, move along.

"...alienating our allies "

Who? France?

#98 liberality

read my lips

I did not have sex with that woman, Miss Lewinsky

#33 Dave the

Bono's a decent guy as far as pop stars go, but his thing seems to be forgiving all debts. It doesn't sound like his bank would be in business very long.

I agree Bono is a decent guy, but before he calls for US taxpayers to forget foreign loans to 3rd world countries he should sell his house, along with the penthouse along the Liffey, in Dublin and give away his royalties to the more "deserving poor." First class hypocrite if there ever was one.

BTW- Alot of people don't know it, but Ireland grants an income tax exemption status for artists such as Bono.

#100 adrenaline

Surely there is a website somewhere that will calculate your taxes had Gore been elected. The true believers should all go there, calculate their additional taxes, and send in the full amount.

But I've never yet met a socialist who means HIS money. He means mine.

GAZE and *yawn*

.אַ דאַנק דיר - b3--14

#17 Rayra 3/7/2005 12:01PM PST

Charles, now you're going to have the American Psychiatric Association baying for your blood, too. You'll undercut their PEST profits by giving out free therapeutic advice.

Don;t laugh - I know a paralegal from Texas that was run out of business for legally cutting into divorce lawyers unscrupulous profits by providing his services for half of their mafia prices

Oh, to be a fly on the wall in Kerry's Louisburg Square Manse while all of these positive events unfold...priceless.

It's hard to imagine the paralell dimension in which this is Gore's second term. We'd still be waiting for sanctions to work...

I wonder if Bono would give me a loan for a few million

truth be told about Bono, he spoke at the previous U of Penn graduation ceremony then hopped a train to NY I think, anyway between him and his entourage, about 6 bags brought down and loaded on the train by the red cap, who pretty much depends on tips to supplement his income. Well not a dime tip from Bono and crew and he was pretty miffed. Not sure if he's cheap or an oversight, but you can pretty much forget about any loans.

Parallel. pawalell

A modern version of the Tales of the Arabian Night. Thanks to George W. Bush, the twin genies of freedom and democracy are out of the bottle, and those genies are notoriously hard to put back.

liberality once again proves true the old adage that "There none so blind as those that will not see."

Are those political blinders on so tight that they cut off the circulation to your brain?

#98

They must have left the door open at the sanitarium today.

After four years of missteps, blunders, and alienating our allies while emboldening our enemies

Name them. Name the allies who are no longer our allies. Name the enemies that are "emboldened". While you're at it, name the enemies who are changin' their tunes.

the President stumbled into some good fortune with the courage shown by the Iraqi people who were not killed in his war

He also "stumbled" into a little thing like the first democratic vote EVER in Afghanistan, the capitulation of Lybia, the first semi-democratic vote EVER in Saudi Arabia, the fight for women's rights in Kuwait, the demonstrations in Lebanon, etc.

Either back up your sanctimonious crap with facts or shut up.

Speaking of Charles' Waves of Freedom, back in the USofA we have a few state governorships that need liberating from LLL democrats this year so please stay tuned & encourage people in those states to pull another Nov. 2nd anti-Terayza, anti-jihadi, anti-Kleagle, anti-MaraSalvatrucha gangsta revolt. And that's goes for my ol' Virginny, ye Olde Dominion with plenty of Michael Moore-ons in charge at present.

Hey Hey, Ho Ho, Moore-on Demos have got to go. Syria out of Lebanon too. This is so catching.

I just bought 4.5 million Iraqi dinars.

If you REALLY believe that democracy and prosperity will survive in Iraq then this is the time to invest. Before 1991 the Iraqi dinar was worth almost $3. Today it is worth about a tenth of a cent, but rising steadily. If it continues to go up (where else can it go?) I expect my investment will do quite well.

But ... but ... there were no weapons of mass destruction! And since that's the one thing that he's gotten wrong, that is obviously the most important thing!

Who cares if hundreds of millions of people are rising up against tyranny across the world. Bush went to war and was WRONG ABOUT SOMETHING.

Morocco has made pretty big strides in the last couple of years. The new king is pro-reform.

For example, last year, the family status code laws were updated, raising the age of marital consent to 18, replacing repudiation with divorce, and giving men and women legal equality as parents. The law was passed unanimously, and the legal Islamic opposition groups did not demonstrate against it.

I don't know much about this Saharan civil war dispute, except that I keep hearing horror stories about the way the self-appointed government in the disputed area mistreats the people, whom they herded into camps and kept there. I say let them all go, for Pete's sakes. When a "government" forces everyone into camps to keep track of them, then leaves them there for decades - you have a problem.

My grades weren't so great this semester ...

Teacher caught you eating the paste again, slick?

OT

Bono to head World Bank?

And although it seems unlikely that Bono will get the job, on Sunday, Treasury Secretary John Snow said that he has not ruled out the idea of the singer being added to the list of potential candidates for the leadership of the World Bank.

According to an Associated Press report, Snow said, "I am not going to review here all the candidates that are on the list. But I will attest to my admiration for Bono. He does a lot of good in this world of economic development. Most people know him as a rock star — he's in a way a rock star of the development world, too. He understands the give-and-take of development. He's a very pragmatic, effective and idealistic person."

Snow is helping to find the successor to James Wolfensohn, who is relinquishing his title as the head of the development bank on June 1.

Holy Schnikes!

This protest may have official approval but it was organized by the Moroccan NGO 'Watanouna' and participants joined the march voluntarily.

It's a good thing.

Baby steps.

#114 loppyd

Hey how you doin'? I haven't seen BabbaZee on the sight for a few days. Have you ever seen Louisburg Square? Talk about luxury, but I thoguht the Republicans were the party of the rich?

BTW, "Now watch this drive" is not "quoting Michael Moore." The quote is directly from the President.

Typical stuff from the Int'l Moonbat Code of Behavior.

Next, it'll be correcting your tyops.

They like to be all nitpicky and stuff. Guess it makes them feel like superior intellectuals and makes up for their feelings of sexual inadequacy.

/Feeding frenzy in 10...9...

While the skies to the east remain dark and threatening, full sunshine has broken out at the shopping center and ice rink complex. A couple of hours of decent sunshine ahead Station K3T5 (LaGrange, TX) has already warmed back up to 72F with a 64 dewpoint, and a south wind at 7 mph. (T 22^oC/Td 18^oC, South at 11 kph.)

CAPES were over 1000 Joules/Kg in the San Antonio area over an hour ago.

Lifted Indices remain negative behind the current convection and ahead of the cold front, and new convection is developing along the
pre-frontal trough!

But... allies! Alienated! Uh, enemies, uh... mad! Lied! Died!

oh, 10000000000000000000000000000 Iraqi children killed by sanctions and bombs and things!

Oil!

*cough*

#119 Iron Fist

#76 J.D.,

Ignorance is Brix?

Inebitabwy.

I just bought 4.5 million Iraqi dinars.

Did you use that site that's advertised on a lot of right-wing sites? I was going to use that, but they take WAY too much off the top. If I could buy some dinars closer to cost, I'd do it.

I forget the numbers, but I think I calculated them selling the dinars for about 10 times the current value. However, I think they're likely to go up 30 times the current value, so there is still a potential profit.

If you REALLY believe that democracy and prosperity will survive in Iraq then this is the time to invest. Before 1991 the Iraqi dinar was worth almost $3. Today it is worth about a tenth of a cent, but rising steadily. If it continues to go up (where else can it go?) I expect my investment will do quite well.

Interesting Idea. How does one purchase currency in say, an e-trade account? Might be worth investing some chump change.

the President stumbled into some good fortune with the courage shown by the Iraqi people who were not killed in his war.

Or are not one of the 300,000 in the mass graves.

Or the children in the prison because they wouldn't join Saddams version of Hitler youth

Or those trying to survive after Saddam drained their wetlands in the south

Or maybe the Israeli who is alive because the $15,000 payment to any Jew killers have stopped

BTW, "Now watch this drive" is not "quoting Michael Moore." The quote is directly from the President.

BTW, that quote was taken before 9/11, and he was talking about terrorism in Israel.

Moonbat.

#75 Hal-law-tosis

the number was closer to 3,000 dumba$$
and they were human beings
Americans and foreign nationals

North Korea has nukes ?
North Korea had them when W. took office
so thank you Bill Clinton
and thank you to Jimmy Carter for borrowing Air Force 1 from Bill Clinton to personally deliver them

your grades are lousy ?
well, so's your judgement
and who's fault is that - that collection of pimples you see in the mirror every day

liberality is a disgusting, anti-American troll.

I hope no one is confusing that turd with a few of us regulars who have taken on the role of loyal opposition on this thread.

127 Quilly Mammoth

Remember when PPaul O'Neill (the former Sec of the Treasury not the Yankee Rightfielder) went with Bono to Africa and they both donned ridiculous native costumes? I knew right then and there that Bush made a mistake in appointing him to the Treasury Department.

#135 Globular Cluster

[Link: www.betoniraq.com...]

126 LC La Wedgie

[Link: members.aol.com...]

OT? but NO.

Free Morraccan Sahara NOW. End the Empiral Occupation NOW.

75

Your right this change in the middle east is because of Clinton policy.

I can't believe he doesn't get credit..

You will get another Republican president in '08. The demo

#129 Joel

Hi there! I haven't seen BabbaZee either, but I've been pretty MIA myself.

Yes, I have seen Louisburg Square. I lived up the street before my parents moved us out to the 'burbs. Do you know the fire hydrant story?

You know, I always hate how people read out body counts for this war and use them as a definitive argument against the war. The casualties in this war are so historically low, that it begs the question "if you're not willing to pay these costs, were World Wars 1, 2, the civil war, and any other war that ever occured worth it?"

People will always have to be willing to die for what they believe in, or they will be conquered by people who ARE willing to die for what they believe in.

So you can either be willing to fight when necessary, or prepare for occupation.

Let Freedom ring! (or reign!)

136 Dave the...
137 craig1f
138 Adrenalyn

Good Fisking of the idiot troll.

#127 QM

From you link:

He understands the give-and-take of development. He's a very pragmatic, effective and idealistic person

Same could be said for Pol Pot.

#139 Thom

Good gravy, I hope not. Even the newest newbie surely can tell the difference between rankling at good news because it hurts their political agenda and sceptically questioning good news even when it would help your political agenda. Fact checking is always welcome.

You are being heard. Consider my enthusiasm dampened. My Cheerios peed in. My parade rained upon. In a good way. ;-)

1465 loppyd

Tell me the fire hydrant story quickly 'cause its almost time to head outta here. I too have been MIA for a few days myself.

I agree Bono is a decent guy, but before he calls for US taxpayers to forget foreign loans to 3rd world countries he should sell his house, along with the penthouse along the Liffey, in Dublin and give away his royalties to the more "deserving poor." First class hypocrite if there ever was one.

His local concert date was announced today. They didn't give prices but I paid huge bucks when they were here last time. Maybe he should donate 30% of his take to his causes.

But I'll have to say, it was the best concert I've ever been to.

"I see" said the blind carpenter, as he picked up his hammer and saw

But the pressing question for the "mainstream" media today is, "What was Martha Stewart wearing upon her departure from Prison?"

"And what about Michael Jackson, who will testify today?"

These are the pressing questions from CNN (fronting Martha right now, with color photo), and others.

What a joke the "msinatream" media have become...
 

#139 Thom:

Uhm, this thread went a bit...awry...

/Coffee time

#134 craig1f

Yes, that is the site I used. I have no other way to obtain the currency. Perhaps someone with a friend or relative in the service could arrange to bring currency home, but I would not know if or how that can be done.

As you say, the site in question is making a huge profit, but unless Iraq goes to hell again it is hard to see how a currency once worth $3 and now worth $0.0001 cannot go up significantly in the coming years.

I've made money in the market before (though I am not a professional trader) and this one looks very good.

#150 Renna

I was just nervous when somebody mentioned an unusually high troll count on this thread, but I had noticed only liberality.

Yikes!

BTW, "Now watch this drive" is not "quoting Michael Moore."

Yes it is - words taken out of context, time frame and reference in order to assign a new meaning create a unique, personal distortion - in this case, editing creates a Michael Moore fantasy.

151 Joel

When Terayzzza and Kerry bought Louisburg Square there was a (gasp) fire hydrant out front. They obtained a special permit to have it removed. God forbid they should have to look at something so unsightly...

Me? I need more paste.

[Link: members.aol.com...]

"if you're not willing to pay these costs, were World Wars 1, 2, the civil war, and any other war that ever occured worth it?"

19,000 American boys were killed in the Battle of the Bulge. This occured after 3 years of quagmire. Maybe the Dems need to denounce Roosevelt.

OT: IF YOU WANT A REAL STORY, CHECK OUT THE ONE ABOUT KUWAITI WOMEN DEMONSTRATING FOR THE RIGHT TO VOTE!

ANYONE?

Charles, thank you so much from an Italian who is deeply disgusted by the behavior of some Italian idiots.

F*ck Sgrena and those who dared to pay the Terrorists to save her

Yeah, I hate MSM.

I actually like (in theory) Great Britain's stance on the bbc.

The bbc was ordered NOT to get into a ratings war. They were ordered not to dumb down their programming to compete with other networks.

They're still biased, but I wish that we did have just ONE state-sponsered news organization that ignored ratings entirely.

#39 liberality

Ummm, they're protesting Algeria. They're not calling for democracy in their own country.

Whatever.

"Whatever." I like that word--whatever.

"Aren't you all liars, because, after all, Bush=Hitler and Jews drink infants' blood and Haliburton is everywhere and Amerikkka is the evil empire, and it's all about the oil, because Noam Chomsky, Michael Moore, and the ISM tell us so, and it's all seared--seared--into our memory?"

"Gee, Mr. Moonbat--whatever"

/channeling Mr. Hand from Fast Times At Ridgemont High

Joel T.

OT -- Meanwhile back in Eurabia, storm clouds appear on the horizon.
Anti-Muslim bias 'spreads' in EU [BBC]

In Germany meanwhile, more than 80% of those surveyed last year associated the world "Islam" with "terrorism" and "oppression of women" - although it was unclear to what extent this resulted in discriminatory behaviour.

161 Dave the...

23,000 were casualties in one day at Antietam (Sep. 17, 1862)

speaking of Michael Moore

I am still waiting for my local bank to give me a free gun when I open a checking account

and also waiting for the paperwork for the ten day waiting period to be waived, like it was for Michael Moore in BFC

isn't the 7 year statute of limitations still in effect and why don't the boys and girls at ATF pick him up for this circumvention (my, there's a big liberal word) of the gun laws

#159 loppyd

Talk about Imperial Hubris. God forbid a fire breaks out and their milion dollars mansion catches on fire. Can you imagine Tah-ray-zuh working a water bucket brigade?

#167 Joel

Worse than that, the US still has troops stationed in the conquered Confederacy. Quagmire! Quagmire!

Look, I'm going to keep pushing this thing until I get the attention I deserve.

[Link: members.aol.com...]

#152 Dave the...

But I'll have to say, it was the best concert I've ever been to.

Saw U2 in Frankfurt 93' and, yes, it was the best concert I have ever been too.

He should stick to music and a couple of PR driven charity drives a year. Its what he's good at. If he wants to sink into geo-politics/economics, he will be eaten alive.

It makes me think this: THANK GOD JOHN MR,ED KERRY IS NOT OUR PRESIDENT...just consider it

#19 Powderfinger

Bush also named Rudy Boschwitz (a conservative former Senator from Minnesota) to the United Nations Human Rights Commission. I bet that anti-semetic piece of sh!t org is just thrilled to have a strong willed conservative Jew from the US in their midst.

169 Joel

She probably would be the one to set the place on fire after a few gin soaked raisins.

They also dug out a parking spot after the big blizzard in January and put a lawn chair in it to save it.

and when I say "they" I mean the help

Given the influx of undesirables on this thread, I propose we spend a moment honing our skills. (hat tip OpinionJournal)
How to win an argument

I argue very well. Ask any of my remaining friends. I can win an argument on any topic, against any opponent. People know this, and steer clear of me at parties. Often, as a sign of their great respect, they don't even invite me. You too can win arguments. Simply follow these rules:

The first rule:

* Drink Liquor. ...

While the skies to the east remain dark and threatening, full sunshine has broken out at the shopping center and ice rink complex. A couple of hours of decent sunshine ahead Station K3T5 (LaGrange, TX) has already warmed back up to 72F with a 64 dewpoint, and a south wind at 7 mph. (T 22oC/Td 18oC, South at 11 kph.)

Well, speaking of LaGrange, NWS Austin-San Antonio in New Braunfels has just dropped a SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING on them.

OK, my Fellow Lizardoids --

A bit of context. There is less to this news story than meets the eye.

Moroccan nationalists of all stripes regard the former Spanish Morocco as their historical territory. (The country was split in the last decades of the 19th century between European powers, the best parts going to France. There was even an "International Zone" in Tangier with its own neutral status.)

All Moroccans oppose Polisario, the armed revolutionary group associated with the population of the former Spanish Morocco, but as this population never exceeded more than 100,000, it is hard to take this group really seriously.

Algeria did, and ran a guerilla war against Morocco for many years.

When Spain pulled out of their sector, the late King led a mass march across the old border and peacefully annexed the place.

The current rally is really an expression of that sentiment. I wouldn't be surprised it the government ran it.

I can discuss Algeria in another post, if anyone wants.

Mardukhai
Un-Official Resident
Middle East expert.

isn't there a Haliburton factory there ?

must be pollution from it, I say

/loonbat sarcasm on

170 Renna

To say nothing about our troops in Japan and South Korea. END THE OCCUPATION OF THE SOUTH!

175 loppyd

Nothing like a Boston Brahmin who really feels your pain. She probably would tell the Fire Department to "shove it."

See you tomorrow.

#98 liberality

After four years of missteps, blunders, and alienating our allies while emboldening our enemies, the President stumbled into some good fortune with the courage shown by the Iraqi people who were not killed in his war.

Let's fine tune that a tad:

After four years of baseless accusations of misteps, blunders, and alientating our allies by shameless anti-American leftists and their willing accomplices in the mainstream media, the President's policies are nonetheless breaking through and bearing fruit, just as he has been assuring us they would from the outset.

The left is cheering for American policy to fail, just because Bush is the president, and they hate Bush. The left is, in point of fact, cheering for terrorists to kill American soldiers and Marines, just because Bush is the president, and they hate Bush. Bad news for Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan is good news for leftists who hate Bush. Funny how leftists hate the fact that patriotic Americans consider them unpatriotic. Get a clue.

If you don't believe that the left is cheering for Americans to fail in Iraq, check this out,
CLINTONISTA ADMITS DEMS ROOTING FOR TERRORISTS

And it's gratifying to know, liberality, that you and your buds are being frustrated in your desires on every single level.

LoppyD
Want some paste?

[Link: members.aol.com...]

I am still waiting for my local bank to give me a free gun when I open a checking account

That whole thing was a fraud. They don't hand you the gun (Moores people had to fight to have that done in the bank), you had to deposit huge sums of cash to get it. You needed a drivers license, etc

If you robbed the bank, they'd know who you are, plus they have a ton of you money.

Why would you deposit several thousand dollars to get a gun so you could rob them of a few hundred, and then get caught.

#182 jaybird

"Well, there's still Iran and North Korea, don't forget. There's still hope for the rest of us. ... There's always hope that this might not work."

Only OpinionJournal.com, the Washington Times and Rush Limbaugh reported the former Clinton official's outrageous remarks.

Just your normal MSM day.

You cant help but feel the collective boner arising on the left, as it were, any time there is either negative economic or WOT news.

And the collective depression whenever there is good news, such as the above story.

How twisted would it be if you were trolling the news for headlines touting increases in unemployment, drops in the DOW, US casualties in Iraq, terror bombings, etc for "validation" of your fucked up left wing worldview?

Arent you better off just sticking your head in an oven, you f'ing vampires?

#174 Strict nein

LLLs & Garrison Keillor's worst NIGHTMARE: Conservative Minnesotans Rudy Boschwitz on UN human rights commission and Minnesota R-Sen. Norm Coleman kickin' Kofi's heiny!

Oh Bwahaha, my cup runneth over today.

By the way, if the liberation of over 50 million people from brutal, terroristic dictatorship, with a resulting avalanche of popular demonstration for democracy in the least democratic part of the world, including Lebanon, Syria, Morroco, Egypt and elsewhere,

is a "misstep" or a "blunder", then give me the missteps and blunders of this historic administration over the "acheivements" of the soon to be forgotten Clinton era any day of the week!

pictures from Ramzi...

Link

Jaybird writes:

CLINTONISTA ADMITS DEMS ROOTING FOR TERRORISTS

See this post for a comment on this admission, and a transcript link:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

See this post for a link to video of the interview:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
 

APRIL TURNS TO JANUARY IN 6 HOURS SUPER WINTER HORROR STORY FOR NORTHEAST TOMORROW!

14^oC in Poughkeepsie, NY.

Big time melting snow.

But by this time tomorrow it will be snowing.

By Wednesday morning Poughkeepsie will be approaching 0 Farenheit, with blustery winds producing -20F windchills!

Muahahahahahahahahahahaha!

(Hard to tell if its the ~12.5 cm generally needed to cancel school)

St. Martin of Tours probably does have school Wednesday, but lets hope tomorrow parents ignore the balmy 5^o temps, for temps will be dropping below freezing by time school lets out.

189 BXEKLT

From your link, this is an excellent sign.

#190 william

Is Clintonista Nancy Soderberg any relation to director Soderberg of the movie "XXX, Lies & Videotape"? If so, they were prescient of Clinton's White House.

Thom, how could a sport like you ever be a troll?;-0)

Waves of Freedom Reach Morocco

And it is truly a beautiful thing...
And just last week the same waves of freedom could be seen in Lebanon.

Does anyone wonder why such displays for freedom are never seen by the palestinians except this and this and this ?

Permanent good can never be the outcome of untruth and violence.

The spirit of democracy cannot be imposed from without. It has to come from within.

Gandhi

#174 strictnein

That's fabulous. Thank you, Mr. President.

Kofi and friends, there's a new sheriff in town. And he's got a mandate. :-)

Fuck Gandhi and the cow he drank piss from.

LLLs & Garrison Keillor's worst NIGHTMARE: Conservative Minnesotans Rudy Boschwitz on UN human rights commission and Minnesota R-Sen. Norm Coleman kickin' Kofi's heiny!

3

And Mark Kennedy is the Republicans favorite to run for Mark Dayton's Senate seat in 2006.

Now we just have to get ready for goofy Al Franken.

#98 stupidity -

After four years of missteps, blunders, and alienating our allies while emboldening our enemies

Who are these allies you think we alienated? France? Germany? Companies from both countries subverted the oil for food program and sold Saddam weapons that are now being used to kill our troops. That's your definition of an ally?

And how exactly have we "emboldened our enemies?" By killing them and deposing their leaders?

the President stumbled into some good fortune with the courage shown by the Iraqi people who were not killed in his war

What about the courage of your fellow citizens who are thousands of miles away risking their lives so that we can continue to live in freedom, you fucking ingrate?

Charles, perhaps we should have an LGF freedometer that indicats how many people have been liberated by American power?

Like mC Donalds- Over 45 million freed!

OT I say U2 in Dooley's East Lansing for $6. There were not 200 people at the show. It was their October tour and they tore the place up. I still have the ticket.

Charles, anyone,

Can we hear from up & coming freedom loving female musicians from Israel & the Middle EAst instead of superannuated rich old antisemitic rockers past their pull-by date? Kerry & Terayza & Bono are so last year.

#160, #171, #183 Peacekeeper:

Me? I need more paste.

Look, I'm going to keep pushing this thing until I get the attention I deserve.

Want some paste?

All right, already! Bad enough that sailor slang defines me and my co-workers as "paste-eating sandcrabs."

#19 Powderfinger

James Taranto leads off his WJS opionjournal with Bush's appointment of Hardliner John Bolton as our UN Ambassador--bwahaha. It's "shocked" some dips at the UN already.

Shell shock'em.

#202 EW1(SG)

"paste-eating sandcrabs."

You have got to explain that one.

Please?

Look, I'm going to keep pushing this thing until I get the attention I deserve.

hmmm sounds kinda like the typical LLL to me.

nevermind that last statement. LOL I got the joke :)

1) Syria is being pressured to pull out of Lebanon because of their stupid assasination of Rafiq Hariri. Unless the U.S. assasinated Hariri, we didn't have anything to do with democracy in Lebanon.

2) Similarly, Mubarak is only allowing elections to ameliorate the political fallout from his imprisonment of Ayman Nour, and to ease the transfer of power to his son Gamal.

3) This protest in Morocco has to do with prison camps, not democracy. There is no evidence to suggest that it, nor the Kuwaiti protests that Charlie linked to, have anything to do with any actions of Bush.

To conclude, this wave of democracy, while certainly a good thing, is not Bush's doing.

#204 Thom: Okay. "Civilians" who perform work aboard ships and submarines while the boats are in are known colloquially as "sand crabs," among other things. "Paste-eating" refers to our association with an institution of higher learning, hence "paste-eating sandcrabs."

A few years ago, I met my brother at the O-Club at SubBase Bangor, where he introduced me to a friend of his. His friend made the paste-eating sandcrab connection, but missed the family connection between me and my brother, and proceeded to launch into an hour-long diatribe covering every misadventure he had ever had with paste-eating sandcrabs. I met him again the next day aboard his ship, and in the course of conversation handed him my card. As I started to walk away, he called after me "Are you X's brother?"

At least my brother and I got a good laugh out of it!

Charles, this has nothing to do with democratization of the Middle East.

What it has to do with is a former Spanish Colony called the Spanish Sahara. A group called the Polisario Liberation Front fought for independence. Once Spain left, the Moroccans moved in. So your "democratization" protest is really a call for the Moroccan colonization of the former Spanish Sahara.

I can't say I have any idea who is right on this matter. But I do know that it has nothing to do with democracy or protesting for freedom.

Really, Charles, you should read up on current events before spouting in posts like this. I suggest a subscription to The Economist.

NodroG:

F. Off!

The protests are good to see, but this clip from the article is a case of Moroccan propoganda:

These Moroccans were emprisoned for more than 25 years, following the artificial struggle over the Moroccanity of Southern Moroccan provinces.

Morocco's occupation of the "Southern Moroccan provinces", better known to everyone else as Western Sahara, should receive international condemnation. That it doesn't is a sign of how the world conveniently ignores Arab transgressions while going out of their way to denounce Israeli ones.

#207

) Syria is being pressured to pull out of Lebanon because of their stupid assasination of Rafiq Hariri. Unless the U.S. assasinated Hariri, we didn't have anything to do with democracy in Lebanon.

And why did they assasinate him?

(c'mon- you can do it- because of fears that the Iraqi elections would cause popular uprisings against them in what country- ...you got it! Lebanon!)

And why did the protestors in Lebanon come out, for the first time in decaes, in the 10s of thousands, when the Syrians had assasinated opposition dozens of time in the past without any such demonstrations?

(c'mon, l'il guy- you can do it! Because of the recent elections...you got it! in Iraq!)

Looks like it did have to do with Bush's policies. 100%. See it wasn't that hard was it?

#208 EW1(SG)

Google helped me not with "paste-eating". :)

#209 Goron

Took you that long to google, ya freakin' moron?

I'm also not sure what Bush has to do with this. The Moroccans are protesting against Algeria, not their own government.

Oh come on!

Weren't you aware that people around the world had no interest in freedom until GW Bush showed them the light? It's a well known fact that everybody was quite satisfied with being oppressed until he came along.

Maybe somebody can explain in clear terms exactly how this has anything to do with Bush?

#209 Gordon, reading comprehension still a big problem I see: Read #29 carefully!

#214 HVT

Thank you for quoting me by name.

:^/

That said ...

Maybe somebody can explain in clear terms exactly how this has anything to do with Bush?

... what the hell are you talking about?!

Yes, these demonstrations against brutal, anti-democratic and authoritarian forces and regimes which have never occurred in the middle east with this frequency, with such numbers, and such vociferousness are but a cooincidence.

Nothing to do with elections in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Nothing at all.

#217 TMF

Are you referring to the Moroccans protesting that Moroccans are being held by Algeria?

And, ummm ... Morocco ain't exactly in the Middle East ...

#214 HVT

Karl Rove did it. Duh.

#219 Thom

And, ummm ... Morocco ain't exactly in the Middle East ...

And neither are Algeria, Libya, Egypt, or the Sudan, but they all have this in common ___ (cue the Final Jeopardy theme).

The Polisario are the sahrawis an indigenous non-arab group who are otherwise occupied by the Arabs of Morrocco - just like my people the Cornish...whats the UN doing for us!

#215 Roger: Charles' little statement is meaningless. Demonstrations occur all the time in nations run by dictators when the regime wants a demonstration.

When we see a demonstration in Morocco that calls for the abolition of the monarchy, or calls for the end of the occupation of Western Sahara, then Charles will have a point.

Until then, I suggest, for both Charles and you, subscriptions to The Economist.

I thank goodness for LGF! What in the world would I do without them, they bring the truth to my computer!

"God damn it…first one wants freedom, then the whole damn world wants freedom."

--Gil Scott-Heron

from

the lyrics to "B movie", a song I grooved to in Finney Chapel as Gil rocked the house in Oberlin, Ohio.

[Link: www.gilscottheron.com...]

the full lyrics are worth reading to get a flavor of the times and for a history lesson for those who were not there.

for those whose have not heard the song, i recommend a listen, it was written in response to the election of reagan in 1980

the man was a poet of the left and songs were great

worth looking at are:

The Revolution will Not be Televised

[Link: www.gilscottheron.com...]

and

The Bottle

[Link: www.gilscottheron.com...]

a trip down memory lane and, for a recovering leftist, poignant.

I see the LOVE ME DADDY troll is here.

Do not feed the trolls, folx.

Iceman

I liked Gil Scott Heron too. The man had a great spirit. But last I heard had bottomed out on crack. I hope he's doing a lot better

isn't it possible...and I don't say this as a student of middle eastern politics or anything (wait... yes I do!)... that these kinds of things happened before we ever invaded iraq and it is only now that we choose to recognize them?

#228 taryn

Why would we have refused to recognize them?

And can you name at least two things like this that did happen? Provide links? Give a website that lists them? (And, no, it can't be something like, "Yassir Arafat declares he will work for peace!" or some government sponsored "spontaneous demonstration against Israel, or the US!)

"They urged the United Nations and the international community to press on Algeria to set the prisoners free."

Why should I be thanking W now? Seems like I should be thanking the UN.