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Wed, Mar 9, 2005 at 4:16:50 pm PST

Oh brother.

A former U.S. Marine who participated in capturing ousted Iraqi President Saddam Hussein said the public version of his capture was fabricated.

Ex-Sgt. Nadim Abou Rabeh, of Lebanese descent, was quoted in the Saudi daily al-Medina Wednesday as saying Saddam was actually captured Friday, Dec. 12, 2003, and not the day after, as announced by the U.S. Army.

“I was among the 20-man unit, including eight of Arab descent, who searched for Saddam for three days in the area of Dour near Tikrit, and we found him in a modest home in a small village and not in a hole as announced,” Abou Rabeh said.

“We captured him after fierce resistance during which a Marine of Sudanese origin was killed,” he said. He said Saddam himself fired at them with a gun from the window of a room on the second floor. Then they shouted at him in Arabic: “You have to surrender. ... There is no point in resisting.”

“Later on, a military production team fabricated the film of Saddam’s capture in a hole, which was in fact a deserted well,” Abou Rabeh said.

Are the inmates of Democratic Underground bouncing off the walls over this one yet?

For another account from an Arab interpreter who really was present when Saddam was pulled out of his hiding place, see lgf: A Punch from All Iraqis.

UPDATE at 3/9/05 4:26:36 pm:

“Ex-Sgt.” Nadim Abou Rabeh’s story, of course, is a load of bull.

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1 Goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:18:14pm

Oh my.

2 tory  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:18:27pm

This story is a fraud.

[Link: theneocon.blogspot.com...]

3 CalipHater  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:19:28pm

Must be the same people that faked the lunar landing/holocaust/9-11/BNG documents...

Those pesky zionists and their freemason colloborators need to come out from the shadows.

4 TotallySirius  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:19:59pm

Shananigans

5 rightasrain  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:20:24pm

#2 tory

Good to hear!

The true story of Saddam in a hidey hole is sooo much better! :)

6 Gabba Gabba Hey  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:20:24pm

I believe this cat as much as I believe the LLL support the troops and Dan is an honest man.

7 Craig Abu Al-Boo-Boo  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:20:45pm

Is al-Medina the Saudi version of The Onion?

8 zulubaby  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:21:22pm
Ex-Sgt. Nadim Abou Rabeh, of Lebanese descent, was quoted in the Saudi daily al-Medina ...

Um.

9 rightasrain  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:22:10pm

It was depressing for Saddam's supporters to see him give up so helplessly without firing a shot, so I'm sure they'll carry this heroic story of Saddam killing a fellow Arab during his capture for the rest of time.

10 zulubaby  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:22:10pm
Abou Rabeh was interviewed in Lebanon.

That's nice. Let him stay there.

11 Malleus Dei  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:23:10pm

They just never get tired of making stuff up, do they?

Do check out [Link: theneocon.blogspot.com...] for the debunking of THIS tall tale.

On the bright side, at least he didn't claim to have picked up hundreds of spent rounds.

12 Beagle  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:23:22pm

I have Osama Bin Hiding Laden in a hermetically-sealed container at Zionist World Headquarters. I know you guys know, but I wanted everyone else to know. Too bad Tuh-reh-zah Heinz Ketchup spilled the raisins.

13 Malleus Dei  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:23:39pm

"Is al-Medina the Saudi version of The Onion?"

No. That would require a sense of humor.

14 reaganite  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:23:42pm

#2 tory
Great fucking first post!

15 Thom  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:24:57pm

Then where did those pictures of Hussein being dragged out of his spidey hole come from?

They captured him in a modest home, beat the crap out of him (heh!) and then staged a capture at the spidey hole?

It's a safe bet that no American would care where or how the bag of shit was captured. So why the supposed ruse?

16 Renna  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:25:07pm

Well, poor babies. It makes 'em Feel Better to think he fought back. And wasn't hiding in a hole.

Now, if he was in a house, why didn't he shave?

17 Shammer  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:25:10pm

Speaking of Spider-hole, check this guy out on the right--->

18 rightasrain  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:25:30pm

#14 reaganite

No kidding!

Great job, tory!

19 Jheka  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:26:21pm

#2 Tory:

Helluva way to make your entrance on LGF ... welcome aboard.

20 reaganite  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:26:44pm

#18 rightasrain
Good thing he's on our side!

21 CalipHater  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:27:00pm

From a propagandist standpoint this story makes a lot of sense because it makes Saddam appear to be closer to the Arab lion that the so-called Arab street revered him as. The idea that Saddam put up a fight renews hope to the jihadis and their sympathizers. On the other hand the thought of Saddam cowering in a hole in the ground "humiliates" the Arab street. Simply put this is a attempt to revise history to boost their egos.

22 rightasrain  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:27:00pm

You set the bar pretty high there, tory! :)

23 Thom  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:27:04pm

Did I just stick my foot in my piehole?

Give it to me straight. I can take it.

24 farng!  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:27:13pm

I must send a message to Karl Rove on my secret decoder ring to tell him the jig is up...

25 RickZ  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:27:17pm

I wonder if this ex-Marine is somehow related, on the camel side, to the Marine of Lebanese descent who skipped out on his trial?

26 TotallySirius  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:27:45pm

OT

Just noticed I passed 1000 posts...about 5 posts ago :-)

That's worth a few shots of good old American corn whiskey.

27 EvilUncleAndy  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:27:54pm

He was there, it was Christmas eve, and he remembers it because it was seared, seared into his memory...


What a maroon...

28 reaganite  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:28:11pm

Amazing, Tory's first post and second on the thread debunks the whole BS story.

Charles, next please!

29 rightasrain  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:28:21pm

#20 reaganite

Good thing he's on our side!

Yeah! :)

30 deadman  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:28:25pm

And the moon landings were all faked in a hanger at Area 51!

31 hithere  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:29:13pm

If it had any chance of being true, Dan would have reported it before signing off.

32 dogwater  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:29:45pm

#2 tory beautifull , welcome

33 rightasrain  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:29:58pm

Any introduction you're willing to make after that entrance, tory?

Welcome!

34 CalipHater  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:30:07pm

#30

I beat you to that one buddy... (see post #3)

35 bp sf  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:30:07pm

From the center of the media universe, Rochester, NY.
Must of been a no snow day.
Got to bookmark WHAM TV as my new news source.

36 LSD  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:30:11pm

(Sigh...)

37 CrimsonFisted  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:30:15pm

#11

It doesn't take much to fact check! The author took some time to check out the background of this "Marine" and discovered he was a bag dirt (if he exists at all beyond the reporter's imagination).

What has happened to journalism? Can these people learn nothing?

38 Nancy  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:31:01pm

The story is suspect for a number of reasons but it was not a well. It was an empty septic tank.

Several engineers said that is what the structure was and I have a 1000 gallon concrete one and that is what it did look like.

I have never seen a square well in my life. Even hand dug wells are round.

You could hardly have a well that was only 6 feet or a little more deep. He was crawling out --they didn't fetch him out with a rope!

That alone and I recall the link Charles provided as well.

39 Renna  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:31:03pm

#31 hithere

Dan wants to be the first to break this story.

40 jpsfudimo  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:31:28pm

somewhat OT but realy disgusting

From The great folks of the Motor City United Auto Workers.What a bunch of a*s hats

41 RBMN  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:31:42pm

Saddam gave up only because the aging Elvis Presley--also in the house, studying the Koran--was having difficulty breathing amongst all the smoke from Saddam's blazing twin pistols. Also why Arkansas gas station operators never see Elvis drive in at 2 AM anymore to fill up his Caddy. He's in the Middle-East.

42 deadman  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:32:14pm

Of course now this story is absolute fact. Why would a good muslim lie?

Compare and contrast the situation when Oday resisted and now Saddam "resisted". In the first case the house was shot to pieces as was Oday. In the second a fierce battle caused no damage or enemy casualties, Saddam scores a hit killing a Marine and everything calms down enough to negotiate an honorable surrender.

Obviously, the battle w/ Oday was faked!

43 Thom  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:32:23pm

Well. No wonder my pie tastes like foot.

{sigh}

44 reaganite  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:32:25pm

Is tory's fisking a record? 2nd post and all?

45 LSD  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:32:35pm

Facts won't matter to the L3 ...

46 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:32:57pm

I could have been FIRST if I didn't have to clear my cache and refresh because all the thread titles were the same font as the rest of the thread.

There were no comments when I first saw this thread.

BTW, other than to make Saddam appear heroic and brave, how does this help the jihadi cause?

47 Momzilla  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:33:40pm

Is Charles's choice of what's in the CD player right now coincidence or intentional? hahahahaha

48 Nancy  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:33:42pm

2 tory 3/9/2005 04:18PM PST
This story is a fraud. [Link: theneocon.blo...]



Thank you for the link. It certainly sounded like it.

49 Mashiki  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:33:45pm

Crap...more crap and more typical crap. Good stuff Tory.

50 deadman  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:34:00pm

#34 Caliphater

I've got to start typing faster!

51 zulubaby  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:34:14pm
BTW, other than to make Saddam appear heroic and brave, how does this help the jihadi cause?

Good question, Ed. There has to be an angle.

52 LSD  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:34:17pm

#46

It saves Face for the upcoming trial...

53 jpsfudimo  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:34:36pm

PIMF let me try this againLink

54 Photios  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:35:18pm

The debunking has been good. Has anyone pointed out that the hole was not a well either?

I don't know of many well with vent fans in them.

+Photi

55 secsailor  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:36:03pm

#46
I can only come with two things:

1) It attempts to make Saddam out as a hero instead of a coward.

2) It advances the belief that the Americans are liars.

56 patrickafir  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:37:18pm

Online nut plantations like DU and Indymedia will still try to milk it, though.

57 secsailor  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:37:23pm

Sorry, that should come up with two things..

PIMF

58 Jheka  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:37:28pm

BTW, Reaganite:

Good to see you ... how have you been?

59 netvet  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:37:34pm

Two others have linked to this story .

An ex-Marine, a real US Marine did the research and it appears the guy making the claim never existed in the Marines. Also, it appears that no one of Sudanese decent enlisted in any of the United States armed forces died during the time frame the guy claims.

I love the internet. Post a lie, and someone will find out the truth ... very fast.

60 dogwater  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:37:41pm

tory's on the job back to my favorite porn site. hehehe

61 Adrenalyn  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:38:25pm

here is some more lunacy

[Link: www.lasvegassun.com...]


Utah allows illegals to drive
they have a driving privilege card instead of a license but it still allows them to drive

I tell you what Vern, one of them thar ill-eagles hits me and I will sue the governor and any state representative that aided and abetted these "people"

62 reaganite  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:38:29pm

#58 Jheka

Good to see you ... how have you been?

Been good (mostly), how about you?

63 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:38:33pm

Actually, I'd love to take credit for capturing Saddam, but I had about as much to do with it as that idiot.

Moonbats no doubt in state of alert.

64 Proud Kaffir  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:39:03pm

This just in from Moonbat Central:

Saddam was actually captured by a male prostitute masquerading as a soldier and using a false nom de guerra.

Democrats are demanding an investigation into who in the Administration interceded to allow this man into a sensitive, covert operation.

More details to follow. . . .

65 zulubaby  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:39:05pm

secsailor (#55)

It attempts to make Saddam out as a hero instead of a coward.

I think that's probably about right except that he's Lebanese so why does he care so much about Saddam's image? Or do you think it's a whole jihadi-in-arms type of thing?

66 netvet  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:39:05pm

Does anyone else get the impression that Silvio Berluscani is backing off hi tirade against the USA?

67 TotallySirius  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:40:33pm

The inmates are making fools of themselves(as usual) over this story,however it looks like 1 or 2 might be figuring it out.

[Link: www.democraticunderground.com...]

68 Wino  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:40:50pm

Thanks for the link jps...

I'm now going to make a new bumper sticker for my car.

Buy Union! Get less! Pay More!

Anti-American jerks. I've been to too many union sites to have even a scrap of respect left for unions or their members.

Thank G-d Texas is a right to work State.

Have you noticed that 90% of the LLL's work little or get paid way out of proportion to their labors?

Hollywood, union scum, politicians, government "workers," students, welfare recipients, criminals...

69 Renna  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:41:00pm

Well I knew it was a load of bull...because actually I captured Saddam. Yeah, that's the ticket. I did it. With 10 other lizards, but I was the leader.

We caught him on the 29th of February, but held him until we could make him grow that scraggly beard. We came into Iraq though Bulgaria, driving a Ford Blazer sedan. I was armed only with my .37 Special, but the other 9 had blunderbuses.

We found him just after midnight. I saw his shadow first, being as I'm 1/3rd Cherokee, and knew he was behind a tree. He'd been holed up there for months because there was a stack of pork rind wrappers and empty beer cans.

But we held off announcing we found him until after the election.

70 secsailor  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:41:58pm

I remember when he was first caught, there were lots of anecdotal stories from the Arab street about how disappointed people were that he surrendered like a coward.

Personally, I think this guys was more concerned about trying to make the U.S. look bad than trying to make Saddam look good...

71 Nancy  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:42:10pm

Even though it has been ruled BS in a matter of minutes --here's the Pentagon's reply:


The Pentagon is flatly denying a report claiming the U.S. military fabricated the details of how the deposed Iraqi dictator was captured, allegedly staging the "spider hole" scenario. She was referring to a story originally published by the Saudi newspaper al-Medina, and picked up by United Press International, which had quotes from someone identified as Sgt. Nadim Abou Rabeh, a former Marine who is said to have participated in the capture of Hussein.
[Link: worldnetdaily.com...]

72 WhiteTower  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:42:45pm

I can't believe (well, yes I can) the MSM just picked up this story and ran it without comment. It took bloggers about 2 seconds to figure out the story was crap. The MSM is worthless, except for weather reports.

73 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:42:48pm

13WHAM.com?

Was George Michael in the hole (ahem) with Saddam?

74 Bubble Girl  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:43:34pm
#24

farng!  3/9/2005 04:27PM PST

I must send a message to Karl Rove on my secret decoder ring to tell him the jig is up...

Farng... Rove planned this...

75 Nancy  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:43:51pm

By the way the World Net Daily article just happens to mention that he is now living in Lebanon.

76 Renna  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:44:32pm

Did someone email poor ol' WHAM-TV and let them know their story is debunked?

77 Bubble Girl  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:44:44pm

Renna@69

So did you claim the Reward yet? And... Good Job!

78 netvet  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:45:51pm

It's amazing that the msm caught this non-story but have yet to even remotely acknowledge the pics from yesterday purporting to be the car Sgrena the Italian commie was shot in.

Hmmm. Something fishy here.

79 Buckeye Abroad  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:46:00pm

#2 tory

First post? Though first impressions are usually accurate about the person in general.

Welcome aboard brother.

80 Aisha  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:46:11pm
I think that's probably about right except that he's Lebanese so why does he care so much about Saddam's image? Or do you think it's a whole jihadi-in-arms type of thing?

Oh zulukufr! Do you not know that to humiliate one Arab male is to humiliate the whole Arab world! Indeed, Jewish infidels telling Arabs what to do in Jerusalem makes the Ummah shed tears from Ramallah to Makkah, Dubai, Kuala Lumpur and Jakarta!

When you infidels put panties on Iraqi heads, and point out what shitholes our countries are, you say to the whole world "Arabs are pussies", and the humiliation drives us mad, and we are forced to make du'a to Allah Ta'ala "Oh Allah, please let me explode and kill some infidels to restore the HONOUR OF THE PROUD ARAB NATION".

81 LiveFreeOrDie  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:46:53pm
#46 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  3/9/2005 04:32PM PST

BTW, other than to make Saddam appear heroic and brave, how does this help the jihadi cause?

It makes the U.S. a propaganda machine instead of a truth teller.

Slightly of OT: Putting on the tin foil hat.

There is a massive propaganda machine working against U.S. interests. I'm sure it is mostly a distributed, emergent phenomena, but it does feel like there is some coordination at very high levels. Levels like Syria-Saudia Arabia-Russia-Iran and some EU members and commie organisations.

I'm not saying all of it, but some of it.

82 Right Wing Conspirator  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:46:59pm

OK, just got back from DU so sorry about the smell. And I will only post this one from the oh-so-intelligent minds over there:

Wow and to think how many conspiracy theorists were shunned when they didn't buy the wrap-up. Hats off to those who saw through the lies!
DU's conspiracy theorists are coming up all aces with this administration.



Ugh...

83 semadar  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:47:07pm

#2 Tory, are you Canadian ?

84 Fatal  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:47:07pm

OT:

No link, but the news on my radio (K-Love), just reported that the Israeli Sanhedrin (sp? - recently reconstituted highest court composed of 72[?] judges/religious leaders) has ruled that Sharon is breaking Israeli law in ordering the settlers out of the Gaza Strip.

Uh oh

85 Lawrence Schmerel  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:47:27pm

It is funny if he is making the story up.

Shouldn't a news org confirm a story first?

Or is the story teller the focus?

Or maybe the reporter is?

86 farng!  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:47:49pm

#74 Bubble Girl

There was a mock-up of thespider hole that the operatives practiced on ...it was set up at Karl's Bad Canyon...

87 tory  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:48:25pm

Yeah, I'm a Canadian.

88 maf  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:48:34pm

#2 tory

You are #1 with that post! Welcome to LGF.

89 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:50:02pm

Shoot first, ask no questions, shoot some more:

From the asylum at DUmmies Underground:

This entire administration is a fraud. Two stolen elections, secretive meetings that they will not discuss the agendas of, shadow governments, lies, lies, LIES! The whole damn thing is a lie!
This country's core has been demolished by these frauds. Sometimes I just get SOOO damn tired of it all, I really don't know if I can go on here anymore. I feel like fleeing to another country. A sane country, with a wise leader who actually carries out the will of the people in a transparent fashion. Not this shit, not this fraud.
90 Bubble Girl  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:50:26pm

Farng! @ 86

Too bad it wasn't a missile silo he was hiding in and someone just happened to push the Red Button sending Saddamm on the fastest ride of his life...

91 Adrenalyn  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:51:01pm

no, no,no,no,

I caught him in an adult porno theater in Sarasota Florida

caught him with his pants down you might say

he was there having his way with Mr. Hand

92 Renna  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:51:04pm

#77 Bubble

Thanks. They paid me all in pennies, which made my purse really heavy. But don't tell. I don't want to have to share with the others.

93 netvet  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:51:16pm

All you rightwing lunatics out there just can't see reality for what it is!

Next you will try to say that Mount St. Helens really did erupt the other day.

Neocons. 8-(

94 Joshua (not a hamster) Scholar  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:51:23pm

#72 WhiteTower

They ran with it. Jesus, the MSM really wants to be completely supereceded by the net doesn't it? If they keep this up, in a generation there won't be an MSM news agency left, they'll have gone out of business.

95 'Nam Grunt  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:51:42pm

#80 Aisha,


May camels throw their spit upon you, Arab males is an oxymoron, the ones that are slicing off the heads of women and children are animals, not men, cowards would be a better description. I hope you and your ilk burn in hell or die at the hands of an American Soldier.

96 Adrenalyn  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:52:27pm

#85 Lawrence

no, it's the seriousness of the charge
who cares about the facts
this is a serious charge and must be reported, true or not

97 Ed from Ohio  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:52:30pm

where did this guy come from?

98 zulubaby  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:52:44pm

Fatal (#84)

No link, but the news on my radio (K-Love), just reported that the Israeli Sanhedrin (sp? - recently reconstituted highest court composed of 72[?] judges/religious leaders) has ruled that Sharon is breaking Israeli law in ordering the settlers out of the Gaza Strip.

Uh oh, is right. Please let me know if you hear anything else about it.

99 Thom  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:54:06pm

#72 WhiteTower

The MSM is worthless, except for weather reports.

Who needs them for that when we have Ed Mahmoud Alcohol Something or Other?

100 zulubaby  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:54:15pm

Aisha, good point. Now back under your burka!

101 Adrenalyn  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:54:55pm

#80 Aisha


and to murder 3,000 Americans and foreign visitors you've alienated a man and a country with nuclear weapons

weapons that should be used to wipe out ALL Arab males

102 Bubble Girl  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:55:03pm

Jammie @ 89

I feel like fleeing to another country. A sane country, with a wise leader who actually carries out the will of the people in a transparent fashion. Not this shit, not this fraud.

Okay, okay, here is his ticket on La Iguana Airlines, one-way, to Mexico City, a shot of tequila and some Jumping Beans for the ride.. Presidente Fox is so transparent some think he is a ghost...

103 Ed from Ohio  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:55:03pm

#80 Aisha...

there is no honor in blowing up innocent people.

Do you realize that if this country wanted to wipe out the middle east, we could do it. Be thankful anyone in that region is alive. We have enough nukes to do the job. Panties on the heads of terrorists should be the least of your worries.

p.s. - i think you made a wrong turn when you ended up on this site.

104 zulubaby  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:55:47pm

Thom (#99)

Who needs them for that when we have Ed Mahmoud Alcohol Something or Other?

zactly. Now if LGF would just deliver pizza we would never have to leave.

105 wordwarp  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:55:49pm

An Arab lying? This is shocking - shocking I tell you!

106 Renna  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:55:57pm

Okay, I emailed the editor to the first story.

I invited them to repeat the fact-checking done by the blog linked above.

Countdown until they post a correction?

(Holding my breath...1, 2, 3, 4, 5, )

107 Fatal  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:55:57pm

# 98 Zulubaby

Second item down under "spiritual news"

[Link: www.klove.com...]

108 metal man  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:56:26pm

Glad to here this wasn't a real story. But I like the part about restaging Sadams capture. Put Sadam in a house with a couple of AKs and pistols and let him fight his way out. Of course surround the house with M1 tanks and Apache helos. That is one pay per view I'd gladly cough up money for

109 Bubble Girl  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:56:59pm
 
92

Renna  3/9/2005 04:51PM PST

#77 Bubble

Thanks. They paid me all in pennies, which made my purse really heavy. But don't tell. I don't want to have to share with the others.

Okay, I won't tell.. at least you got pennies, I get pesos for my LGF Marching Orders...

110 Adrenalyn  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:57:40pm

Aisha is just jealous that American women get to wear panties

Arab women don't get to wear panties
sex slaves (I mean Arab women) are not given that dignity

111 Okachickima  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:57:48pm

Has anyone investigated to see if this Marine sergeant is the same one that last year faked his kidnapping, complete with hostage picture, then showed up in Lebanon, then returned to the US and was court martialled and again fled to Lebanon?

112 Ed from Ohio  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:58:17pm

its not him

113 farng!  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:58:18pm

#90 Bubble Girl

Please. Tell me you're not one of those people who actually believe in "missiles". Or planes, or satellites, or the Hubble telescope.

It's done with mirrors...don't tell anyone I told you. It's a secret.

Shhh!

114 David  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:58:27pm

Zulubaby, I saw a reference to the Sanhedrin's Declaration on Discarded Lies yesterday. Check out comment #19 for the text of the declaration.

115 netvet  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:58:45pm

#111 oka...

Now that would be just too hilarious!

116 TalkinKamel  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:58:48pm

I suspect the bit about the marine of "Sudanese descent" was thrown in, to make Saddam appear even more macho---you know, mighty Moslem warrior, killing an upstart black man, just like the noble Arab jihadis in Dafour. . .

I think this is more Islamic mythmaking---trying to turn Saddam into a heroic figure, like Sal-al-din, or Baybars.

(OT---And, of course, this is an excellent reason for taking all such mythologizing, such as the Golden Age of Islam, and Islamic Tolerance, with a grain of salt, even when you find it in a history book. And check out all the Islamic heroes! Some of them are downright nasty, such as the guy who built the Taj Mahal!)

117 Fatal  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:58:57pm

OT:

Better Link for the Sanhedrin ruling regarding removing settlements from Gaza

[Link: www.templeinstitute.org...]

118 Dave the.....  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:59:09pm
This entire administration is a fraud. Two stolen elections, secretive meetings that they will not discuss the agendas of, shadow governments, lies, lies, LIES! The whole damn thing is a lie!


I think somebody has been watching too many movies.

119 rightasrain  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:59:24pm

#84 Fatal

No link, but the news on my radio (K-Love), just reported that the Israeli Sanhedrin (sp? - recently reconstituted highest court composed of 72[?] judges/religious leaders) has ruled that Sharon is breaking Israeli law in ordering the settlers out of the Gaza Strip.

I'm absolutely NOT getting into this discussion here, but this was in the news on Arutz Sheva hours ago if you'd like to read the whole story:

The Sanhedrin´s Declaration Concerning the Disengagement

Nothing additional from me on this.

Just trying to help you by giving you a link for the story.

120 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:59:24pm

102 BG,

I'm trying to think of some real sadsack country that might want him. Really, who would want flotsam like that?

Sad to say, we're probably stuck with him. The a-holes who want to leave never do so.

Sigh.

121 Bubble Girl  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:59:25pm

Has anyone checked to see if this Marine came out of a box? And is called, GI JOE "Cody?"

122 'Nam Grunt  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 2:59:35pm

#104 zulubaby,

We never leave anyway cutie. :-p

123 BananaRepublican  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:00:02pm

Somebody elses turn to go over to DU, they shouldn't be left very long without adult supervision.

124 rightasrain  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:00:44pm

Ooops, multiple links for the Sanhedrin Declaration!

/sound of collisions

125 RickZ  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:01:07pm

# 99 Thom:

Glad I read the thread before I posted the same thing. I trust Ed's weather reports a helluva lot more than my local media. Hell, Ed does a better job even if he's had a few, though we know that never happens!

126 Bubble Girl  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:01:42pm

Farng@113

It's done with mirrors...don't tell anyone I told you. It's a secret.

Farng! It's smoke and mirrors...

/channeling Johnny Cochran

*If the spider hole don't fit, you must acquit!

127 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:01:55pm

118,

Really, think about it: if the meetings were secret, how does he know about them?

As Bugs might say, "Moonbats are such interesting creatures"

128 Adrenalyn  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:02:04pm

this just in

Saddam to appear on Surreal Life with:

Elvis
Bruce Lee
Jimmy Hoffa
The one armed man
The guy on the grassy knoll

129 Dave the.....  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:02:11pm

I think the story is true. Saddam was taken after a brave battle, just like his hero Hitler who was killed fighting in the streets of Berlin...oh wait, ummm nevermind.

130 farng!  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:02:28pm

Um...Isn't "Aisha" a jewish guy named Dave?

131 Terrye  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:02:34pm

Once upon a time the rule was two sources, but no more.

I have got to the point where I just don't believe much I see or hear or read from the press and that includes Drudge.

But just picking up something from the Arab media is plain nuts.

And I guess they got some other hairy old man to stand there docile as a drugged puppy for the head lice check and the dental exam.

132 Ed from Ohio  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:02:41pm

banana republican..

im goin in...

133 Fatal  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:02:58pm

# 119 Rightasrain

Hey, thanks for the help! The links actually lead to different sources so both are good.

Thanks again

134 farng!  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:03:16pm

Sorry, "Jewish".

135 zulubaby  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:03:27pm

Fatal, David, thanks for the links. This has me interested.

Any Jew who participates in, or cooperates with this plan, whether actively, or even by merely remaining silent, transgresses the commandment "You shall not stand idly by your neighbor's blood (Lev. 19:17)," and in the future will be judged by G-d for this sin.

Well, looks like some people are in big trouble. Shit, this whole Gaza disengagement thing is making me ill.

136 rightasrain  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:03:30pm

#133 Fatal

You're very welcome!

137 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:03:34pm

123,

Thanks. Did my part. I'm afraid to lurk more than 60 seconds there. Doesn't take very long to sniff out some insanity.

138 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:04:32pm

18Z GFS SUGGESTS LIGHT-MODERATE RAIN MAY MIX WITH/CHANGE TO SNOW IN DFW AFTERNOON OF ST. PATRICK'S DAY. FORTUNATELY, DALLAS DOESN'T REALLY HAVE ENOUGH IRISH DRUNKS TO CREATE A COMPLETE CATASTROPHE, BUT THERE ARE ENOUGH TO CREATE A HAZARD!

A shallow air mass may plunge deep into the Plains late next week, allowing a rare snow or ice storm to affect Texas.

I resolved to avoid the green fonts until I had other model support, but the DGEX agrees. Now, the DGEX uses the 84 hour GFS forecast as initialization for the ETA (now called NAM) model. The NAM tends to be a better model in many situations, but it is not global, it is the "North American Mesoscale", and at the point weather reaches the US from Japan or whatever, it would go in the crapper.


Now, it probably snows more this Friday, maybe Saturday in the Northeast, but it isn't the super swinging 70oF and sunny one day and 30oF with snow and 40 mph winds kind of deals.


Now, what happens with the potential Texas ST. PATRICK'S DAY ICE DISASTER storm when it reaches the East Coast, well, that might get oversized and colorful letters of its own.


BTW, 15 point font letters is just a public information statement for potential North Texas drunks, 20 point font is a watch, 25 point font is a warning.

139 ChaosBF  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:04:34pm
This entire administration is a fraud. Two stolen elections, secretive meetings that they will not discuss the agendas of, shadow governments, lies, lies, LIES! The whole damn thing is a lie! This country's core has been demolished by these frauds. Sometimes I just get SOOO damn tired of it all, I really don't know if I can go on here anymore. I feel like fleeing to another country. A sane country, with a wise leader who actually carries out the will of the people in a transparent fashion. Not this shit, not this fraud.

Someone please get the baby a pacifier so the adults can get back to adult talk.

140 Lawrence Schmerel  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:04:53pm

OT; Lebanonsense?

141 zulubaby  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:04:55pm

'Nam Grunt, too true! :-)

142 Bubble Girl  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:05:21pm

Poor Ed From Ohio
He went to DU
came back and smelled PU
or else he stayed
his mind decayed
either way
Poor Ed From Ohio
We hardly knew ye...

143 Renna  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:06:14pm

Nooo!

OT OT OT OT

Lebanon Set to Reinstate Pro-Syria PM

Bolstered by a massive pro-Syrian demonstration, Lebanese allies of Syria moved Wednesday to reinstate the prime minister, who recently was forced out by anti-Damascus protests. Their action ensures Syria's continued dominance of Lebanese politics.

Poor Lebanon. Here's hoping this is reversed and they still get their country back.

144 Carolynp  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:06:57pm

Riduculous, we haven't even caught Saddam! If you look at the pictures before and after the coalition attack, you will see subtle differences, right Oliver?

145 rightasrain  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:07:02pm

Bubble Girl, it's been too long since I've heard your poetry. :)

Nice!

146 EE  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:07:38pm

This Abou Rabeh fellow seems to want to save the honor of Saddam. It is hard for the Arab world and the Muslim world to swallow the fact that Saddam surrendered without a fight, never even fired his weapon, and allowed himself to be captured alive.

This is important because the capture of Saddam is a lesson for other dictators, including others of the Baathist persuasion.

147 john jay  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:07:42pm

ot - have people talked about the pro-Syrian PM being voted back in by the Lebanese gov't? That's f'ing depressing. Assad is calling the bluff. Bush is going to have to increase the pressure, or something.

148 Bubble Girl  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:07:44pm

RightAsRain @145

Thanks RAR... and glad to see you too!

149 Ed from Ohio  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:07:46pm

just got back from DU, and man, the shit is deep over there. check this doozy out:

Actually, I don't want to brag about anything, but I KNEW the capture of Saddam was bullshit the day they reported it.

I remember all the broadcast news mentioning something very silly and unbelievable, like the narrative straight out of a movie:

When the soldiers assisted the man from the hole, he said, in English: "I am Saddam Hussein. I am the president of Iraq. I want to negotiate."

The soldiers replied: "President Bush sends his regards."

source:CNN - President Bush sends his regards


That was BULLSHIT. That smelled like bullshit from day one. No way that happened. It's too neat, too perfect, too movie-like, just like someone could have scripted it for the gullible press (someone named Karl).

150 kamperken  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:08:19pm

Unfortunately, the link remains at Drudge.

151 Ed from Ohio  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:08:20pm

evidently, saddams capture was scripted?

152 Nancy  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:08:50pm

The court martialed marine for faking the kidnapping was:
Marine Cpl. Wassif Hassoun.

That doesn't mean it isn't the same guy because its not like they have any qualms about using different names.

153 zulubaby  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:09:06pm

Didn't justdanny know about Saddam's capture a day or two before the media broke the news?

154 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:09:24pm
The MSM is worthless, except for weather reports.

Um, who let people know a week ago that the weather would go from warm and rainy to cold, snowy and very windy yesterday?

Not the MSM.

No, it was internet sources (Joe Bastardi at [Link: Pro.Accuweather.com...] that pointed out the beginning of last week that teleconnections between a snow storm in Japan would suggest a large east Coast storm, and the UKMET Office Global Model, available from the internet) and myself who let you know what was coming.

155 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:09:52pm

Meanwhile, back at 13WHAM.com, they actually have a link to WHAMjobs (yes, this sounds deliciously perverse).

Alas, much to my dismay, just as Woodrow was about to enter the building, I found out it was some lousy internship.

156 Ed from Ohio  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:10:13pm

142 bubble girl...

PU is an understatement...

It's more like a sweaty locker room mixed with a slim jim with a slight aroma of a rotting corpse. And a little poop also.

157 Thom  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:12:14pm

#104 zulubaby

Mmmm ... pizza ...

158 Doug  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:12:44pm

OT

the headline right now at Drudge is "Courage"

"Crock of Shit" is more like it.

159 EE  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:12:53pm

#152 Nancy
Especially Abou (Abu) names.
Abou or Abu means: the father of.
It isn't likely that his mother gave him that name, because his mother didn't know who he would be the father of.

160 David  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:13:03pm

Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades, it looks like Ingrid's been downgraded to a category 3, and might do quite a bit less damage than people expected. Not a cloud in the sky down here, though.

161 plutosdad  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:13:50pm

I knew it was a fraud as soon as I read it, which is one of the nice things about having a father who used to be a special operations warrior: one of his friends was there when they captured Saddam.

162 Terrye  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:14:00pm

I think Aisha is messing with us.

I hope.

The whole Macho Arab man thing is kind of weird.

163 Bubble Girl  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:14:02pm

Ed From Ohio @156

Yes, we can tell, she says as she holds her nose...

Bring in the HAZMAT... sorry Ed, it's for your own good, she says as she turns on the SuperTurbo Disinfecting Jets...

164 'Nam Grunt  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:14:08pm

I replied to "say it isn't so" when he/she posted this on the other thread, or whatever it's nic was, who cares...total BS, that coward was found in a pit, end of story! f'kng POS.

165 john jay  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:14:51pm

#143 Renna
What can the US do at this point? I don't know enough. I assume bombing Syria/Bekka Valley is a stupid next step--there's still a way to force Syria retreat from Lebanon through diplomacy.

166 Thom  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:15:07pm

#125 RickZ

Absolutely! Ed has never been drunk anywhere!

167 cardiacmont  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:15:29pm

I CAPTURED SADDAM!

I'm SPARTACUS

168 zulubaby  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:15:44pm
the headline right now at Drudge is "Courage"

How embarrassing.

169 Renna  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:16:03pm

Well, it looks like standard operating procedure at AP.

AP Rule #22

If anyone kills the leader of a terrorist organization, talk about how this made things Much Worse because the new leader will be or is a hard liner.

The killing of top Chechen rebel Aslan Maskhadov leaves the insurgency largely in the hands of Shamil Basayev, the most brutal of the warlords - a development that could undermine any chance of peace

170 Yossarian  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:16:09pm

OT but interesting: Super Bowl Trophy Makes Trip to Israel

THE Vince Lombardi Trophy had never gone so far - all the way to Israel. But now it was moving slowly, forward and backward, through the electronic scanning machine.

A few soldiers guarding Prime Minister Ariel Sharon seemed to know about the Super Bowl, maybe even the Lombardi trophy, which goes to the winner, but the fancy piece of hardware was not going anywhere until the security people were totally satisfied.

...

"At the rededication, they played 'The Star-Spangled Banner,' " Kraft said. "Just to hear our anthem in Israel brought tears to my eyes."

Now I feel guilty for rooting for Philly in the Superbowl...

171 Bubble Girl  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:18:33pm

Senator Ho Chi Minh Kerry would not only met with Saddamm but also given him his picture for the Saddamm Hussien Museum of Foreign Spineless Wimps...

172 zulubaby  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:19:01pm
The uprooting of the residents of the Gaza Strip and Samaria is a crime and an injustice to the residents, and places many other communities – in fact, all citizens of the State of Israel – in mortal danger.
173 Terrye  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:19:07pm

Renna:

They are jsut putting him up as a candidate. We will have to see what happens, he may or may not be sticking around. They could always come back and have more demonstrations against Syria.

The test will be the election in May.

174 BananaRepublican  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:20:17pm

Rather signed off with "courage" just in case we forgot what a fruitcake he is.

175 Aladin Sane  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:21:50pm

Evening all!

Who cares how Saddam was captured? The U.S. of A. owns his ass!

176 rightasrain  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:21:58pm

#174 BananaRepublican

Rather signed off with "courage" just in case we forgot what a fruitcake he is.

LOL! :)

177 Aisha  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:22:01pm

#130, #134 - Oy vey. Someone's been lookin' under my burka, and payin' waaay too much attention.

178 Renna  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:22:17pm

#173 terrye

I hope so. I was thrown by the use of the word "ensures."

"Their action ensures Syria's continued dominance of Lebanese politics."

179 'Nam Grunt  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:22:29pm

#174 BananaRepublican

Does that mean to say he has an utterly foul taste in his mouth and can bounce off of walls?

180 oh_dude  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:23:11pm

Hey, one of the guys from Delta (gloved hand holding Saddam) is wearing a Sunnto Vector digital watch. Cool!

That's the same one I've got! Wonder if that makes me a badd-ass too?!

181 jpsfudimo  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:23:22pm

test

182 mich-again  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:23:26pm

A crazy, haggard, lice-infested, fugitive, murderous, despot is firing a rifle at them from a second story window and the soldiers stopped shooting back in order to convince him to surrender, in Arabic, complete with the classic "Resistance is Futile!" line.

Mark me down in the "not buying it" column.

183 alkmyst  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:23:43pm

Tory -

Awesome 1st, 2nd post. Great link there...

1st...
2nd...
3rd...
4th...

I would only add this:

5th... Column - MSM who ran this fake but inaccurate story.

Keep it up!

184 Renna  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:23:45pm

Is this BS?

The Darfur conflict began after two non-Arab rebel groups took up arms against the Arab-dominated government in February 2003 to win more political and economic rights for the region's African tribes.
185 rightasrain  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:24:06pm

#177 Aisha

Oy vey. Someone's been lookin' under my burka, and payin' waaay too much attention.

Your funniest comments are the ones to do with burkas. :)

You are usually waaay too close to reality to be much like a parody, though. :-)

186 'Nam Grunt  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:25:23pm

#181 jpsfudimo,

Global Test?

187 J.D.  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:25:30pm
Rather signed off with "courage" just in case we forgot what a fruitcake he is.


Did he really?
Really?

188 john jay  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:25:43pm

#173 Terrye
The first part of the NY Times article is:
"BEIRUT, Lebanon, March 9 - Nine days after Lebanon's pro-Syrian prime minister, Omar Karami, was forced to quit under pressure by opponents of Syria's occupation, he was voted back into the post today by the Lebanese parliament.

Mr. Karami was chosen by 71 deputies out of a current total of 126, according to the Lebanese Broadcasting Corporation television. Lebanon's president, Émile Lahoud, is bound by the choice of the parliament - dominated by pro-Syrian deputies - and will appoint Mr. Karami on Thursday."

Sounds like he's back in.

189 Pamela  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:26:22pm

OT CU representatives meeting with Churchill's lawyers

[Link: www.9news.com...]


I know I put this in the topic below also. sorry.

190 cat dancing  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:26:24pm

#149 Ed

I was over at DU, too. The Moonbats are barking in full-throated frenzy over this "story". What a pathetic bunch. They're desperate to believe anything.

[Link: www.democraticunderground.com...]

191 alkmyst  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:26:42pm
#119 rightasrain 3/9/2005 04:59PM PST
#84 Fatal
No link, but the news on my radio (K-Love), just reported that the Israeli Sanhedrin (sp? - recently reconstituted highest court composed of 72[?] judges/religious leaders) has ruled that Sharon is breaking Israeli law in ordering the settlers out of the Gaza Strip.

I'm absolutely NOT getting into this discussion here, but this was in the news on Arutz Sheva hours ago if you'd like to read the whole story:

I'm not going to get into this discussion either. The spokeperson for this Sanhedrin of which you linked is my boss's cousin, and I'll probably meet him soon, with pleasure.

I'd say the Sanhedrin trumps the Chief Rav of Gush Etzion.

Always argue from a position of strength. And the truth IS strength. sharon is a Godless traitor to his people.

192 rightasrain  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:27:28pm

#186 'Nam Grunt

Global Test?

It was a test of the Emergency Blogging System.

Had this been a real Emergency Blogging Alert, we would have been instructed to go to our nearest Blogging Shelters.

Mine's built already. :)

193 Thom  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:28:16pm

And lest we forget the happy day of Hussein's ass-kicking:

1
2
3
4
5
6

194 Orson Buggy  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:29:06pm

#82 Right Wing Conspirator
[DU's conspiracy theorists are coming up all feces with this administration.]

195 zulubaby  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:29:09pm

alkmyst, this is a very interesting development. Please keep us posted.

196 Ed from Ohio  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:30:05pm

the looney left will believe anything

197 zulubaby  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:30:28pm

Thom, nice one! Saddam looks like he's going to start talking to himself any minute now.

198 christheprofessor  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:30:33pm

I think tory is Karl Rove...

:)

199 SwampWoman  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:31:40pm

#191 Alkmyst

Is that going to split people into which leader to follow? Will it make a radical split between the observant and nonobservant? (Sorry, don't know much about Jewish politics, may be phrasing incorrectly.)

200 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:31:49pm

You know what is fascinating. That the weather in Tokyo frequently repeats 7 to 10 days (depending on the season) later in New York. Now, Joe Bastardi points out that is just a guide, but it points in the right direction.


Further, if mid-summer (when the Southern Northwest Pacific season is active) typhoons head straight west into the Philippines and Viet Nam, when Atlantic storms form a few weeks later they will tend to move into the Gulf of Mexico or Central America, but when most recurve up and clip Japan, then the Carolinas and East Coast will tend to be affected. If they hit around Taiwan, its Florida that has the best chances.


BTW, latest CPC ENSO discussion says it appears the weak to moderate El Niño now occuring has started to weaken, and the ENSO should be neutral by mid-summer. An moderate to strong El Niño tends to cause an active North Pacific season, both West Pac and Mexico/Hawaii but a surpressed Atlantic season, neutral to cold phase tends to promote an active Atlantic season.


If I get time, I have to look some more at Ingrid. I imagine it should have some time to power back up before possibly affecting N.T.


BTW, looks like TC Willy is moving away from W.A.

Just looking at the Southern Oscillation Index from the Govt. of Queensland, the El Niño is still going pretty strong. It should flip positive when Ingrid gets close to Darwin, just based on the definition, but whether it stays positive, or only weakly negative thereafter, will indicate just how fast the ENSO goes back to neutral.

Latest radar imagery of

201 'Nam Grunt  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:31:56pm

#192 rightasrain,

Yes, I'm safe as well in my blogging pit, just like saddam the animal, but Aisha his adoring slut is not safe!

202 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:32:27pm

Severe Tropical Cyclone Ingrid.

203 christheprofessor  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:33:01pm

Bastardi? that Italian bastard...

JUST KIDDING! ! !

204 Thom  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:33:21pm

#197 zulubaby

Wouldn't you just love to contribute a jack-booted heel to that part of the war effort?

F*ck yeah!

dB^)

205 quark2  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:34:22pm

@94 Joshua (not a hamster) Scholar

All of the dead tree pubs are in a world of hurt or are going under.
They have no one to blame but themselves. They haven't reported the news in decades. And the public is tired of their baloney self esteemed opinions and disinformation.

206 Aladin Sane  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:34:27pm

Ed,
How was the tornado movie last night?

207 alkmyst  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:35:02pm

#184 Renna 3/9/2005 05:23PM PST
Is this BS?

The Darfur conflict began after two non-Arab rebel groups took up arms against the Arab-dominated government in February 2003 to win more political and economic rights for the region's African tribes.

Well according to what I was told by a black muslim from Sudan the other day

murders to the tune of 900,000 blacks since 1994

I'd say yeah, it's total BS.

208 zulubaby  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:35:07pm

Thom,

jack-booted heel

eh. Stiletto maybe, but yeah.

209 atlasshrugged  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:35:42pm

and when, pray tell, was the truth ever part of the quotient?
when?
huh?
when?

210 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:36:28pm
212 Renna  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:37:07pm

What I want to know is, which of you were hunting near the Charlotte airport?

CHARLOTTE, N.C. - Federal investigators said a bullet hole found in the side of a U.S. Airways jet could be nothing more than a hunting accident.

The FBI, which is investigating, said there's nothing to indicate that terrorism is involved or that there was any malicious intent.

Whew, I'm glad they calmed me. I was about to panic.

213 ThomasAgee  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:38:09pm

# 126 Hey BG

In case anyone is wondering, the Marine Sgt. is as made up as the 4 documents now gone dano tried to pass off as "essentially true".

214 Bubble Girl  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:38:12pm

So... is there a Statute of Limitations on just how long the DU's get to whine... I mean, come on... this has been going on since the US Supremes gutted and eviscerated the Florida Supreme Court over Al Gore in 2000... do we have to wait until all the Moonbattus Ignoramus' expire like the DoDo bird?

215 atlasshrugged  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:39:15pm

same shit as the smegma story
no truth had no holes in it then her bullet ridden story but you miss the point

Veracity is of no import

getting the story on the front pages of world's newpapers - THAT IS THE OBJECTIVE

so what if it's a lie?...nobody cares about retractions, yesterday's corrections

Look at JENIN a case study in front page splash, world recrimination, regardless of the facts

Brave new world

216 Thom  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:39:23pm

#208 zulubaby

I'm gonna sign off before I have a coronary.

'Night all.

;)

217 Terrye  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:39:33pm

Renna and jon jay:

Omar Karami just stepped down a few days ago in the midst of street demonstrations to defuse the situation, now he is back.

This is Lebanon, was he ever really gone? Or is it just like Assad pulling back to the Bekaa valley?

He has been nominated as a candidate in the May election, if he wins then and the election is certified as as genuine then Syria will have much influence.

But if the election is for real, it will be a beginning for the opposition to begin formulating a stronger political opposition to both Syria and Hizbellah. This is very complicated and could take a lot of twists and turns.

218 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:40:02pm

No marines participated in the capture of Saddam Hussein. He's just another person looking to make a quick buck.

i know how this poor marine feels,
i was on the boat with john kerry and we did go into cambodia.
now lgf and other blogs are calling us liars and traitors.

i personally gave a marine combat hat to sen kerry, helped him deliver 800 tons of weapons and rice to the kemer rouge up the dong ha river.
he then let me water ski behind the boat untill we got to nha trang vietnam.
while in nha trang swamp i fought an alligator,
me and him went into several death grips and finally i stabbed him 20 times in the back.
my wife had wanted me to bring her some alligator shoes and purse back from hong kong, but i figured i would get some from the animal i just killed.
i turned the gator over,
and he didnt have on a single damn shoe,
and was not carring a purse. boy was i pissed.

my story is better.
for reprints, turn on your printer.

219 Aladin Sane  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:40:27pm

Anybody catch the Dan Rather sign-off special this evening? I had meant to TIVO it and forgot...

/not

220 zulubaby  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:40:28pm

Thom, LOL! What did I do!? Night :-)

221 SwampWoman  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:40:49pm

#212 Renna

CHARLOTTE, N.C. - Federal investigators said a bullet hole found in the side of a U.S. Airways jet could be nothing more than a hunting accident.

Yeah, they look so much like deer. The similarities are, like, amazing.

222 atlasshrugged  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:41:16pm

215 PIMF...ugh

had MORE holes in it

223 Renna  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:41:39pm

#207 alkmyst

thanks. It just set off red flags with me. Even if I had just arrived from another planet and didn't know the tendancies of the participants, they just seemed to be bending over backwards to say it was Not The Arabs too much.

225 Thom  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:41:49pm

#220 zulubaby

There's just something about stiletto heels. :)

'Night again!

226 Lawrence Schmerel  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:42:24pm

Great orange, gelatinous galls of cedar-apple rust fungus! What a story!

227 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:42:25pm
228 zulubaby  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:42:27pm

SwampWoman, omg, I'm dying here!

229 alkmyst  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:42:50pm
#199 SwampWoman 3/9/2005 05:31PM PST
#191 Alkmyst
Is that going to split people into which leader to follow? Will it make a radical split between the observant and nonobservant? (Sorry, don't know much about Jewish politics, may be phrasing incorrectly.)

Not directly. The Sanhedrin is a group of people, all equal, that (were) are the highest religious authority when it comes to determining and interpreting religious law.

sharon has already ensured that the Likud Party will split, and he's doing his best to divide the rest of the nation

Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 18:00:15 -0500
From: imra@netvision.net.il

[IMRA: Chalk up a major accomplishment to the media-Sharon administration tag team: after giving top billing to a fake story for a day about a nonexistent rabbinical ruling allowing settlers to shoot at non-Jewish
soldiers a leading Bedouin cleric responded with a real ruling.]

'Fire back if needed'

New edict allows Bedouin soldiers to kill settlers who attack them; move
comes in the wake of reports that rabbis permit targeting non-Jewish
soldiers By Ronny Sofer 2 March 2005
[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

I happen to like the Druze. They're the ones who pick me up in the army jeeps and give me rides when I'm hitchhiking in The West Bank Shomron, to the settlement I was living on.

230 Bubble Girl  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:42:51pm

AtlasShrugged @ 215

Thanks to Al Gore, you just posted your thoughts to thousands of persons across the world, without someone else disseminating it and rewriting it... so yes, it is a Brave New World, in that aspect...

/That's unless someone else has namejacked you, then all bets are off.

231 rightasrain  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:43:23pm

#199 SwampWoman

Is that going to split people into which leader to follow? Will it make a radical split between the observant and nonobservant? (Sorry, don't know much about Jewish politics, may be phrasing incorrectly.)

It's not even a top story on the observant Israeli site (Arutz 7) where I posted a link about it. It's listed under the "Inside Israel" section on the lower right of the home page with other stories about the disengagement process.

The Sanhedrin story isn't making the major Israeli sites at all, so far.

It's doubtful that this will have a major impact, but we'll see.

I'm observant (Orthodox) myself and I'm in daily contact with rabbis who are directing me in my move to Israel.

I will let YOU PERSONALLY know if they say anything to me that has an impact on my politics, ok? Just YOU, though. :)

232 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:43:32pm

I'm trying to find what Gulf of Carpentaria sea surface temps are. The QLD govt. site has a departure map showing it is between 0.5 and 1oC warmer than the climatological norm, which would tend to suggest Ingrid could restrengthen, but I can't find actual temps.

BTW, one of the reasons the weather was so clear in NYC on September 11th was that a major hurricane (Erin?) was well offshore, and all that air that rises up into a tropical cyclone eventually tries to settle back down well away from it, producing sinking motion and good weather.

233 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:44:07pm
234 'Nam Grunt  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:44:29pm

#210 Rayra,

OK! Then Aisha is a transvestite piece of trash, works for me. How are Sergeant!

235 quark2  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:44:33pm

@177 Aisha

#130, #134 - Oy vey. Someone's been lookin' under my burka, and payin' waaay too much attention.

Ummm, I bet they got one nasty shock looking under your burka! :)

236 Terrye  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:44:41pm

Has anybody pointed out tot Drudge that there is serious doubt as tot he veracity of the story concerning Saddam's capture?

There is a reson why 2/3 of the people polled do not believe the media. The MSM id about as reliable as a bunch of old women talking on a party line.

237 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:44:42pm
238 southernborn  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:44:54pm

under the influence of camel farts

239 'Nam Grunt  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:44:59pm

pimf "you"

241 zulubaby  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:45:37pm
There's just something about stiletto heels. :)

Aha. Okay Thom, if it helps any, I'm wearing sneakers right now. Sleep tight, mmkay? ;-)

242 pookleblinky  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:45:40pm

OT OT

The Final Historian linked today to the first Afghani blog: Afghan Warrior.

Go there and wish Waheed luck.

243 wanumba  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:45:45pm

The MSM is reduced to printing terrorist propaganda press releases. I guess after over a decade of printing verbatim press releases from all the other lefty causes and DNC talking points, rather than real reporting, we shouldn't be surprised to see this nonsense.

244 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:46:01pm

yes, it was Hurricane Erin.

245 Bubble Girl  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:46:08pm

ibmkeyboard @ 218

LOL
ROFLOL
LOL

246 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:46:24pm
247 Renna  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:46:38pm

Well, it's been one hour since I emailed WHAM- TV with the fact-checking. They still have the story up.

248 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:47:14pm
249 Thom  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:49:37pm

#241 zulubaby

Sneakers! And I'm wearing moccasins and white socks.

(And a shirt and pants and necessary undergarments.)

{LOL!}

Too silly. Good night. :)

(Besides, I don't want Hulugu beating up on me.)

250 quark2  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:50:20pm

@223 renna

We should save this statement. So when we're attacked from within by terrorist cells we can use this to bite them in the ass.

251 alkmyst  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:51:06pm
#237 Rayra 3/9/2005 05:44PM PST
addendum my #227 -
and those black sub-saharan African Animists and Christians are the descendants of the ancient Axumite empire, and have been there 600-1500yrs longer than the Arab-Islamic invaders from the North.

Heh.

Cognitive dissonance! arabs can't be imperialists!
EEEAAARRRGGGHHH

252 christheprofessor  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:51:12pm

#246 American Infidel

Well, if you want to keep something secret, don't put it on a networked computer...

253 J.D.  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:51:15pm

#224 Asylum Aleikum
'cause they're mostly in Spain?

...Officials now believe the main motive for the train bombings that killed 191 people was not so much Iraq as Spain's arrest of dozens of al-Qaida suspects after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks in the United States, including three charged with helping prepare them, Reinares said.

Twenty-four suspects arrested in those raids face trial in Madrid, probably next month. The crackdown marked the beginning of the end of Spain's traditional status as a militant haven.

Until the arrests began two months after Sept. 11, "Spain was a place where individuals linked to al-Qaida operated with ease," Reinares said.

The idea that Spain's vulnerability goes back beyond the train bombings - and persists still - is shared by Jesus Nunez Villaverde, an international security analyst and president of a Madrid think-tank, the Institute of Studies on Conflicts and Humanitarian Action.

"What March 11 shows, and especially what came afterward, is that Spain was, is and will stay on the target list for Islamic terrorists," Villaverde said.

Investigations elsewhere in Europe have also intersected here, bolstering the chilling conclusion that Spain was not just a one-time target for joining President George W. Bush's coalition to oust Saddam Hussein - but instead a "crossroads" for Muslim extremists, says Jean-Charles Brisard, a French private investigator. ...

...Despite the presence of suspected Muslim militants in Spain, Reinares said his country is no more a hotbed for extremists than Britain, France or Italy.

However, Brisard said that even after the arrests prompted by March 11 attack, the al-Qaida structure in Spain proved itself to be more important than any other in Europe in terms of collaboration with other cells.

"We've seen that in every case, all over Europe. People were always in contact with Spanish al-Qaida members," said Brisard, who works with police across Europe and has access to Garzon's huge file on the Spanish branch of the Sept. 11 plot. "It is not the case with other cells."


A year after Madrid bombings, Spain admits it has been a haven for militants

254 Bubble Girl  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:51:22pm

OT OT From Yahoo Headlines

Report: NFL probes Vikings coach for scalping
255 atlasshrugged  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:51:43pm

230 Bubble

yes, it is a Brave New World, in that aspect...

Amen

now if we can talk to the world entire as well as each other we will really be getting somewhere

btw...that is the objective

256 Cam  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:51:54pm

#248 Rayra:

I think the ultimate Irony will be CBS Evening News not placing third in the ratings for the first time since Rather took the chair.

LOL! I can picture some CBS exec thinking "Hmmm... how can we get some disgraced old hack to quit every night of the week?!"

257 rightasrain  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:52:22pm

SwampWoman, I didn't notice the makeup of the Sanhedrin when I first read the story in January:

The group composed largely of Kahane sympathizers that gave itself the name Sanhedrin in October, however, met Sunday to discuss the creation of a Jewish monarchy in the State of Israel.

Our esteemed colleague above was more astute at noticing this than I was at the time.

Their declaration won't make a difference in my observant circles.

Best wishes,
rightasrain

258 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:52:24pm

Um, I guess I could just put that "Throbert McGee | " thingie in the LGF search, but it doesn't seem quite right that he isn't visiting with Aisha.

I haven't seen him in a while.

259 SwampWoman  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:52:29pm

#236 Terrye

There is a reson why 2/3 of the people polled do not believe the media. The MSM id about as reliable as a bunch of old women talking on a party line.

Now, I'll have you know that I stopped by the beauty parlor today and talked with my niece, was still talkin' when they closed down for lunch, and went out to lunch with the owner, worker, and folks whose hair was in various states of construction.

I found out lots of interesting things. Don't denigrate the ol' ladies.

260 'Nam Grunt  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:53:10pm

#248 Rayra,

'nam buddies and fishermen from the local VFW over here for Texas brisket, basted in a "secret" baste sauce and plenty of beer, damn! it doesn't get any better than this.

261 zulubaby  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:53:35pm

Thom, LOL! Underwear!? What is the matter with you!? LOL.

(Besides, I don't want Hulugu beating up on me.)

We're safe from him for now ;-)

262 ThomasAgee  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:53:40pm

Just e-mailed drudge & told him his ex-Marine Sgt. story had been debunked & he needed to fact check his stories or be considered MSM.

Let's see how long it takes him to remove his "RED" story.

263 Robert D  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:54:03pm

#193 Thom

Great pics. #3 even shows his bloody mouth from the interpreter punching him.

264 Dov  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:55:07pm

# 130 farng

I took great insult to that but lets overlook it.

Sign this

A Jewish Man named David

265 Cam  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:55:11pm

#249 Thom:

I'm wearing moccasins and white socks.

Uh... you're not an elderly German tourist or something, are you?

;-)

266 cardiacmont  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:56:10pm

So which was quicker, the debunking of the Rather Memo, or the debunking of the faked Saddam capture?

267 alkmyst  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:56:13pm
#240 selpaw 3/9/2005 05:45PM PST

I stopped reading Jpost long ago. They reminded me why with this piece of fake, inaccurate, inciting garbage.

Even a drunk at one of those bars with the foto-match game machines wouldn't fall for this crap.

268 Bubble Girl  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:56:22pm

Atlas @ 255

now if we can talk to the world entire as well as each other we will really be getting somewhere

btw...that is the objective

Yes, Atlas, and our mission to make sure this is allowed to flourish, that another Dark Ages doesn't descend upon us... just as this War on Terror we fight is a fight to keep us free from all forms of tyranny...

269 Dov  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:56:26pm

.

270 'Nam Grunt  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:56:46pm

#254 Bubble Girl,

Goodness! I didn't know Mr. Tice was an Indian.

271 quark2  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:57:06pm

@245 American Infidel

If you have an account with Bank of America, you might want to keep a close eye on that. Last december they lost two tapes that were being transported to another secret location and physically lost them. There was the information of 1M folks info on those two tapes. They don't even know where or how they were lost.

I guess everyone has heard about the software being used to steal personal information by spoofing caller ID..

272 alkmyst  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:57:34pm
#266 cardiacmont 3/9/2005 05:56PM PST

So which was quicker, the debunking of the Rather Memo, or the debunking of the faked Saddam capture?

Tough call. Tory's link there was posted at 6:16. Memogate took about 4 hours IIRC...

273 zulubaby  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:57:38pm

I can't read JPost anymore either. It's going left of Ha'aretz.

274 not neo just conservative  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:57:43pm

OT, but related to the Sgrena fiasco

HIT, Iraq - Sgt. Jim Beere of the 23rd Marine Regiment Bravo Company knows something about protecting people.


Back home he's an undercover cop in Oakland, Calif., where he works on a special-victims unit tracking rapists and child molesters. He's usually responsible just for himself and, at most, the safety of a partner.
But early on Feb. 22, he saved his own life and quite possibly the lives of a dozen other marines from Bravo Company who were taking a well-deserved catnap after an all-night operation in the city of Hit.
The split-second decisions by marines like Sergeant Beere are often made in the fog of war. During the same operation, his platoon accidentally killed two unarmed Iraqis who failed to obey orders to stop. Each situation reveals just how much pressure and how little time troops have to determine whether approaching cars mean them harm.
At about 5 a.m., the streets of the city were all but deserted when a sedan turned onto the road leading to the marines' temporary headquarters in a schoolhouse. The driver began to speed up toward the Abrams tank guarding the road, so the machine gunner opened fire with two long bursts that sent the car careening into a sewage canal in the middle of the road.
The driver, who was hit three times but still alive, rolled out of the car, and marines ran over to investigate. He was a Syrian who claimed in perfect, almost unaccented, English that he'd been forced to drive the car. (He later died on the way to the hospital.)
Beere then went over with another marine to check out the car.
As the marine in front of him leaned in the passenger-side front door to take out an AK-47 propped against the steering wheel, a man lunged out of the muck in the canal on the driver's side and went for a rocket-propelled grenade launcher in the back of the car. Beere quickly pulled his buddy back and to the side, swiped his pistol from his holster, and shot the man five times. The man fell back into the canal.
Beere took a few steps away to catch his breath and, turning back, saw the man coming out of the canal again, this time hitting a "clacker" in his hand - a detonating unit for mines and improvised bombs. Beere shot the man four more times, and he fell dead.
"I thought that was it for me, I really did," Beere said a few minutes later. He says he expected the whole car to go up in a ball of flames. "The best I can figure is that he had a mine down there with him and was trying to blow up all the explosives in the car. I think the wet ruined the detonator," he says.
In this case Beere was right: the trunk was loaded with explosives. But troops don't always make the correct decisions. The marines of Bravo Company, who are finishing a six-month tour in Iraq, have fired on and killed unarmed Iraqis in cars on more than one occasion. In each case, they say, confused drivers either ignored or didn't notice warning shots and shouts to slow down as their cars sped toward Marine positions.
But with the suicide car bomb a favored insurgent weapon at checkpoints - in December, 9 Iraqis were killed and 13 were wounded by a suicide bomber at a checkpoint south of Baghdad, while in October, 16 people were killed and 40 were wounded by a car bomber at a Baghdad checkpoint - the troops aren't inclined to take chances. And their rules of engagement let them open fire if they feel threatened.
Such confusion, and the civilian casualties they create, are part of the tactic of using suicide bombers since it serves to drive a greater wedge between US troops and ordinary Iraqis.
275 secsailor  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:59:00pm

The lunacy at DU never ceases to amaze me!

I just checked the casualty lists for Dec '03, and no Marines are listed. This could indicate the story is false, or it could mean something else.

The Marine killed is mentioned as being of Sudanese origin. It could be that non-citizen soldiers are not being included in the casualty lists -- something that has been speculated on other threads. A Sudanese immigrant, with no family in the states, he could be left off the lists and who would know? As with the innumerable Mexican, Guatemalan, Salvadoran, and other nationals who make up a significant portion of our armed forces. If there is no one who is going to object if they are ignored, why not ignore them?

Could this bring the US death toll up to the 2000+ rate suggested by those who are following this, comparing deaths to the overall casualty rate?

276 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:59:39pm
277 christheprofessor  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 3:59:53pm

#256 Cam

LOL! I can picture some CBS exec thinking "Hmmm... how can we get some disgraced old hack to quit every night of the week?!"

If they retire the 60 Minutes crowd, they could move NBC and ABC down to 9th or 10th place...

278 Thom  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:00:42pm

#265 Cam

NO! I am neither elderly nor German. I'm just a Marylander freezing his ass off and moccasins are warm and toasty for relaxing in on a winter's night!

#263 Robert D

Yeah. That's my favorite too.

---

So how the hell do I get out of this place?!

279 atlasshrugged  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:01:16pm

268 Bubble

I am right there baby, shoulder to shoulder

Pook!
Thanks for the Afghan Warrior...just blogrolled Waheed

280 J.D.  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:01:40pm

#254 Bubble Girl
Hilarious!

281 zulubaby  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:02:01pm

Go straight, make a left and you'll see the exit sign.

282 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:02:12pm

Well, I doubt if this vermin was ever even in the USMC. Meanwhile, Discarded Lies, LGF's home away from home, has a story about real military heroes.

283 Aisha  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:02:33pm
Thom, LOL! Underwear!? What is the matter with you!? LOL.

You need to wear at least three layers of overwear such as an under-under-burkha, under-burkha, followed by a burkha. Then perhaps you will be safe from evil thoughts.

Seriuosly, I read it in the Imam's Guide to the Prevention of Masturbation:

6. When in bed, if that is where you have your problem for the most part, dress yourself for the night so securely that you cannot easily touch your vital parts so that it would be difficult and time consuming for you to remove those clothes. By the time you started to remove protective clothing, you would have sufficiently controlled your thinking and the temptation would leave you.
284 'Nam Grunt  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:03:42pm

#254 Bubble Girl,

Actually Doc this has been going on amongst NFL personnel for years, the real story here is who has it in for Mike Tice, the new owner of the Vikings?

285 Terrye  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:04:15pm

swampwoman #259:

My grandmother used to sit down with a cup of coffee and a piece of pie at 4 in the afternoon for a chat with her girlfriends on the party line. Four women would pick up their phones at the same time and have a country conference call.

and she was one smart old lady.

286 Almostout  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:04:40pm

OT: A legal matter

Is it legal for a charitable US organization (YMCA) to organize and give scholarships for trips to a foreign country known to be hostile to the US?


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Experience history in the making…. The “Bolivarian” political and social process facilitated by President Chavez is not only changing the face of Venezuelan politics, but is also shifting Latin American-U.S. relations in general. Trip activities include: meeting with administrators and students at Universidad Bolivariana de Venezuela (UBV): a University that recently reformed their curriculum to provide college students a grounded and community- based college experience; learn from grassroots women's groups about the role of women in the revolution; meet the leading Afro-Venezuelan activist Chucho Garcia and learn about Afro-Venezuelan and Indigenous movements; converse with Cuban doctors and teachers working in Venezuela and organize with Venezuelan activists planning to host the 16th Annual World Youth Festival!

Other things you need to know:

Trip Cost (estimation): $1,000 (cost includes airfare, housing, transportation within Venezuela, and $100 non-refundable deposit with application; food not included)
Group fundraising opportunities are available!
YMCA scholarships will be awarded with the demonstration of financial need
Moderate proficiency in Spanish strongly encouraged; but don’t let this scare you away!
This trip is open to everyone, you do not have to be a student to go on the trip.
E-mail: venezuela_ymca@yahoo.com with any questions, intrigues or to request an application.

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Turn in your application in person or via postal mail at the YMCA (with your $100 deposit)

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287 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:04:41pm
288 Aladin Sane  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:04:42pm

#283 Aisha

Skivies, boxers and longjohns. Got it!

289 alkmyst  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:05:01pm
#273 zulubaby 3/9/2005 05:57PM PST

I can't read JPost anymore either. It's going left of Ha'aretz.

I have a friend who works there who tells me it's in negotiations, and basically the bosses are intentionally running into the ground to deter the buyout. People aren't getting their salaries, others are getting tons of money and never working. It's one big clusterfcuk.

Suggested reading for sane op/eds:

(Hebrew) Makor Rishon
(English)
Arutz Sheva
IMRA
Israel Unity Coalition
Israel Resouce News Agency

290 'Nam Grunt  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:06:43pm

*among*

291 zulubaby  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:07:08pm

David, that's just frightening. The sexual rage behind Islam -- do I have to post the link again?

292 alkmyst  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:07:19pm
#286 Almostout 3/9/2005 06:04PM PST
OT: A legal matter
Is it legal for a charitable US organization (YMCA) to organize and give scholarships for trips to a foreign country known to be hostile to the US?

Well, it ain't Cuba yet, so my guess would be it's technically legal, but it's probably not too smart. ie: it's gonna bite 'em in the ass if they don't think it over...

293 zulubaby  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:07:50pm

alkmyst, I used to love JPost. It's too bad it's tanking.

294 pookleblinky  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:10:48pm

Aisha! Have you been wearing your haraam Burkini?

Next time, use the halal duct-tape.

295 'Nam Grunt  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:11:13pm

Night guys!

296 Renna  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:11:15pm

secsailor #275

I love their assumptions.

Someone of Sudanese origin must be a non-citizen. And must not have family in the States. And all other non-citizen soldiers have no family to make a fuss if their deaths are kept quiet. And innumerable non--citizens make up a sig. portion of the military.

Not to mention the theory that the US is hiding deaths and the glee that the total might be...drool...higher.

What sickos our Esteemed Colleagues, the Lords and Ladies of DU are.

297 David  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:11:56pm
alkmyst, I used to love JPost. It's too bad it's tanking.

Agreed. Quite a few publications went to sh** once Conrad Black started having serious business woes.

298 zulubaby  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:12:28pm

David, yes, exactly :-(

299 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:14:29pm
300 Robert D  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:15:20pm

Boy, do I feel like a marooon for asking a dumb question about the Troll, Aisha last night.


(face very red)

301 ASD  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:15:59pm

#2 Tory


Nice work! I quess you get the deluxe flying monkey wings and get to go on the next moonbat raid.

302 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:16:28pm
303 SwampWoman  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:17:52pm

RightasRain, Alkmyst, thank you for your replies. I wasn't sure really how much judicial/political power the Sanhedrin were going to wield.

304 Gringo  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:19:18pm

And Drudge Report is still running the story without updates or references to falsity as of 6:00 PM PT. I'm beginning to have my doubts about them. He better get with it and keep up or I believe his readership is going to fall off...then again...CAN ANYONE KEEP UP WITH THE BLOGOSPHERE!?

WE RULE!

305 Aladin Sane  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:19:27pm

OT
Colmes interviewing Bernie Goldberg likens Rather to the Swiftvets. "Weren't both really discredited, yada, yada, yada, and why aren't the swiftees subject to the same scrutiny as Rather..."

Well for starters Mr. Eyebrow, the Swiftvets weren't discredited and Rather was. Nice try to drive another nail into the Swiftvets..

Asshole!

306 Lawrence Schmerel  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:20:59pm

Fungi Gymnosporangium Jumiperi-Virginianae!

307 secsailor  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:22:18pm

#296 Renna 3/9/2005 06:11PM PST

What gets me is that even when they do fact check (which isn't often), they still get it wrong.

308 Renna  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:22:50pm

Lawrence

Juni, not Jumi

309 Beagle  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:24:36pm

#300 Robert D

Boy, do I feel like a marooon for asking a dumb question about the Troll, Aisha last night.


Aisha is not a troll. He/she is an accomplished froll. In the beginning, David, I mean Aisha used to do a dead-on impression of a Muslim practicing dawa on LGF. After dozens, or is it hundreds of people, didn't get the joke, Aisha leaves more clues in the posts for people to pick up on the joke.

I picked up on Aisha very quickly. *pats self on back* The humor can be subtle.

Some people hate it. I find it hilarious. If you read the posts by Aisha carefully, and David's being serious, you can learn a great deal about Muslim thinking.

I would like to know why David/Aisha knows so much about Islam. But he/she's a secretive sort. Mystery is so fascinating.

310 David  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:28:39pm

#309 Beagle. I love reading and learning. And I procrastinate and waste time in front of the computer.

311 farng!  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:30:50pm

#264 Dov

Huh?

312 madawaskan  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:31:39pm

#2 Tory

You link to another comment from another site that will end up making a lot of people look foolish...there are legitamite reasons why people cannot be "found" on certain "lists"...lose that part of the argument.

313 christheprofessor  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:34:06pm

#310 David/Aisha

I love reading and learning. And I procrastinate and waste time in front of the computer.

Another one, eh?

314 DumbBlondeCapitalist  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:36:49pm

I believe Nadim Abou Rabeh is just confused. He didn't help capture Saddam from a modest home after a fierce firefight.

He helped capture one of Saddam's many doubles.

315 Almostout  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:36:51pm

Alkmyst,

"Each YMCA is a charitable nonprofit, qualifying under Section 501(c)(3) of the U.S. Tax Code. The YMCA of Metropolitan Minneapolis files an IRS form 990.
Section 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations are subject to a ban on the conduct of political activities. "

Does it mean that the ban does not apply outside the US?

316 Robert D  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:37:08pm

#309 Beagle

That's what makes my face so red. It was explained to me last night, then with a little bit of knowlege, it all becomes so clear. I'll try to be more observant in the future. Thank you for the details.

317 Aisha  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:39:57pm

Rayra, that rude remark was Hebrew, not Yiddish. Nevertheless, it was over the top. I apologise for it.

318 SwampWoman  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:43:14pm

#287 American Infidel

All I heard today on the radio was people moaning about the cold...PFFFT I say, it is winter time, be ready for it or go live in a warmer climate...

HEY! I'm freezin' my buns off here. I froze 'em in the sonora desert in Arizona in the winter, too. I froze in Texas. I'm open to suggestions for further warm places in the continental US to move to...

Hey, did y'all know that goldfish, when you have forgotten to feed them for a few days, will actually pick up small rocks and spit them at the glass? I think they're tryin' to guilt me into feeding them. It's workin'.

Oh, and speaking of wierd knowledge...that whole duck necrophilia thing is NOT a surprise to anybody that has had poultry. The roosters are just as bad.

319 Beagle  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:44:06pm

#310 David

#309 Beagle. I love reading and learning. And I procrastinate and waste time in front of the computer.


I was hoping for something more exciting like a kidnapping to and rescue from Saudi Arabia. As it turns out, you're pretty much like me. You have a head for Muslim terminology. I still have to backtrack when I read more than two or three Muslim names or Arabic terms at one time. Sometimes there are great pnemonic devices in the names, like Hatem, Ghoul, or Assad. Too many frickin' Mohammeds though.

I guess every mom wants to spawn the Madhi. Not that the women have any say in naming the children, or much else. What was I thinking?

320 Almostout  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:47:45pm

Alkmyst,

Moreover, the Spring Break in Venezuela came directly as a result of this:

"When Afro-Venezuelan activist Jesus “Chucho” Garcia returned to Minneapolis last week, ...
Garcia started the evening by urging the audience of students and local activists at the University of Minnesota to support Venezuela by defending the outcome of the August 2004 voting referendum that allowed President Hugo Chavez to remain in office. “We ask for your solidarity, and that is mostly not to believe what CNN says,” Garcia said.

He added that threatening comments made by U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, along with recent tensions with the Columbian government, have some Venezuelans concerned about U.S. intervention and financial support for anti-Chavez factions both within his country and in Columbia and Brazil.

“Dr. 'Ph.D.' Condoleezza Rice threatened us again when she intervened to answer at the appeal of the United States Congress that they [the U.S.] had to be careful with the types of leaders and democracies that were emerging in Latin America,” he said."
www.spokesman-recorder.com...] target="_blank">

This Chucho Garcia is lobbying on behalf of Chavez's government and YMCA representatives respond to it. Is it indolent in politics by the YMCA?

321 Almostout  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 4:50:50pm

Is it indolent in politics by the YMCA? = Is the YMCA not being involved in politics in this case?

322 CowardKerry  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 5:00:07pm

This dildo is obviously shilling for a starring role in Michael The Donut king Moores new film.

323 ninetails  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 5:04:27pm

8 zulubaby 3/9/2005 04:21PM PST
This is typical arab journalism/history...just like the nazis, they've completely rewritten history and continue to do so...sounds in line with their conspiracy theories, the Jews were involved...whatever...hopefully, the light will start to shine more brightly on that 'culture' if you will...so when the LLL wants us to look at the 'root causes' for everything wrong, they'll have a good starting point...

324 justdanny  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 5:06:29pm

Man o man, these wacky Abou people.

Saddam is free to tell this real story. I wonder why he has'nt ?

Wacky Abou sitting in a tree, c o n s p i r a c y
First came Blallah
Then came Pighammad
Then came a load Islamovomit

325 MARS Trucker  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 5:11:48pm

There are lies and then there are DAMN LIES

326 Jheka  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 5:18:29pm

What I want to know about the capture of Saddam is where the swiftboat landed and who has the lucky hat ...

327 alkmyst  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 5:36:55pm
#315 Almostout 3/9/2005 06:36PM PST

"Each YMCA is a charitable nonprofit, qualifying under Section 501(c)(3) of the U.S. Tax Code. The YMCA of Metropolitan Minneapolis files an IRS form 990.
Section 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations are subject to a ban on the conduct of political activities. "

Does it mean that the ban does not apply outside the US?

To be honest, I have no idea.

I haven't been to Venezeula, and I don't plan on going until they renounce support of Syria.

As to legal aspects, there are much more knowledgab;e people out there than me. I just don't think it's a good idea for the YMCA to get involved with it...

sorry I can't be of more help here...

328 Buck  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 6:02:01pm

#24 justdanny

I don't think we should mention that, because Saddam is not allowed to talk to anyone, including his lawyers.

However, if he was living in a "modest home in a small village", he wasn't cleaning himself, or shaving at all. I guess he was trying to look like he just crawled out of a hole.

329 plutosdad  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 6:04:13pm

#184 Renna

most BS I've read, especially since the conflict has been going on for over 10 years, including mass killings and enslavements for gem mines of subsaharan africans for the north africans

but why should the MSM let the truth stop it?

330 Stop Hillary  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 6:04:25pm

I only wish Saddam had fought back like this lying Arab said. Then the Marines could have just wasted the son of bitch on the spot.

331 Adrenalyn  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 6:07:56pm

Hi, My name is Kitty Carlisle and I captured Saddam Hussein

Hi, My name is Orson Bean and I captured Saddam Hussein

Hi, My name is Peggy Cass and I captured Saddam Hussein

Hello, My name is Allan Ludden and welcome to

TO TELL THE TRUTH

332 Spiny Norman  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 6:30:15pm

The Coalition Casualty list for 12/12/2003.

12/12/03 -- Black, Jarrod W. Sergeant, 26, U.S. Army 1st Battalion, 34th Armor Regiment Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack, Ramadi.
12/12/03 -- Braun, Jeffrey F. Private 1st Class, 19, U.S. Army Battery B, 2nd Bat., 319th AB Field Art. Reg., 82nd AB Div. Non-hostile - weapon discharge, Baghdad.

No US Marines killed that day. It's official, the story is unadulterated bullshit.

333 Tinker  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 6:32:50pm

Wake up, dammit!

We may be all on the same page here re: this idiot. But this bonehead has already been "outed". Save your energy for supporting the Lebanese protests. Lebanon is going to be the turning point in the war against the Islamofascist/SyrialKillers/Hezzbullyuh bastards.

Lebanon today is equivalent to WW2's Poland. Against (Islaomo)Fascism, someone's gotta make a stand. We wimped out then. Will we now? If we find a place and time to take a stand, what better place than Lebanon? If they're willing to fight, then send in the Marines. Our fight with Hezzbullyuh has been a long time in coming.

334 Tinker  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 6:46:28pm

Wow. 300+ posts so far. OK, we bitch-slapped this idiot. But looking at your posts - what a waste of talent. We're in a war of ideas and so many of us are in an attitude of "Nyah Nyah" towards the boneheads. Stop the cheap shots. Let's figure out a way to focus on the war.

Lebanon has become America's equivalent of WWII's Poland - the defining moment for a war. Jump on the threads to push this theme - Lebanaon must be free.

Don't anyone kid yourselves - I was there in the '70s. If the freedom-loving Lebanese declare themselves free, there could be a bloodbath unless Hezbullah steps aside. I don't think that will happen.

Whaddahyuthink?

335 Adrenalyn  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 7:52:51pm

I think you're point is on the mark.

I also think we should help the Syrians get out and even ask the UN for permission as it really is an illegal occupation.

I also think it is time we put pressure on the UN and this would be another step in that direction.

John Bolton being an excellent first step, that is.

(defence to POTUS)

336 Adrenalyn  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 7:54:47pm

make that "deference"

so late... am I tired and typing poorly...

337 LynnBo  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 8:37:36pm

I don't think Hezbollah will die quietly. I agree, we must do what we can to help the Lebanese. I think Condi is the right one at the right time to make certain all the i's are dotted and t's crossed. This is military, but mostly political.

My impression in comparing the videos of the popular uprising versus the 500K Hezbollah demonstration yesterday, is that yesterday's demonstration was staged and coerced. You can see it on their faces. The people in the peaceful revolution were smiling and animated. The people's faces in yesterday's 500K demo were expressionless and at best sad - like stoic prisoners.

Nevertheless, the terrorists got (another) boon the other day with the ransom paid them by Italy for the commie reporter. Michelle Malkin says her sources are estimating between 1 million and 15 million. For perspective, 9/11 cost AlQueda about 1/2 million.

Those kind of ransoms buy a lot of weaponry...and all the terrorists do it. Why? Because they can. So, yeah. Hezbollah will definitely not go quietly, and certainly not genuinely.

338 Stuck-in-CA  Wed, Mar 9, 2005 9:38:40pm

I read that story on Drudge yesterday and upon reading it I thought to myself, I'll bet that soldier has an Arab sirname. I must be CLAIRVOYANT! Or rather...I certainly know bullsh*t when I hear it.

339 'sugarcoat'  Thu, Mar 10, 2005 2:01:52am

OT

more lunacy
bumper sticker rage

340 Outsider  Thu, Mar 10, 2005 2:07:24am

This is precisely why the US had to show Saddam as such a mess.

Prior to his capture there were already legends being fabricated about his "heroic" escape from the "occupation" time after time.

This Arab delusion had to be nipped in the bud.

341 jpsfudimo  Thu, Mar 10, 2005 2:32:39am

sugarcoat

http://www.wxyz.com/wxyz/nw_local_news/article/0,2 132,WXYZ_15924_3608005,00.html

Read the rest of the article

342 jpsfudimo  Thu, Mar 10, 2005 2:36:29am

The posting function of my brain is not yet warmed up yet.

Marines at nearby Marine Corps Reserve Center say on Tuesday morning, the director of security at the UAW told them that while they support the troops, Marines driving foreign vehicles or sporting a President George Bush bumper sticker were no longer welcome to park there.

Link

343 'sugarcoat'  Thu, Mar 10, 2005 2:53:59am

#342 jpsfudimo

Thank you for the link.

My link had to do with a nut driving a lady off the road, but yours had a lot more bite.

I know very few Marines, but the few I know are not likely to have Kerry bumper stickers, and especially not now.

344 Rednek  Thu, Mar 10, 2005 5:52:35am

What is this shit? The Fourth Infantry Division captured Saddam. Not the Marines.


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