declear the crudase and be unite

I had a nasty shawarma in monreal last weekend.

I demand an apology.

Kind of like apologizing for slavery. Tough luck guys, no apology here. Way before my time.

Did you mean: declare the crusade and be united ?

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That's pretty funny.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry we gave up.

Pope to Al-Azhar:

"Nuts!"

wow, noshariaincanada... you are fast... thought I would be first AND post declear the crudase... but you beat me on both counts!

Nothing like holding a grudge for, you know, a thousand years.

Sheesh.

#8, i have technology :)

Also, the tahini sauce was runny. I'll need an apology for that too.

Good but the Pope should then demand an apology from this idiot for the massacres that Muhammand comitted upon the Arabs and the Jews during his "conquests".

These [bigoted word]s are nothing if not persistent.

That depends on what the meaning of the word apology is.

I demand an apology for all the past mistreatment of left-handers by the Church!

I demand an apology for all the Jews Mo killed in Medina. Also, for turning us into apes and pigs.

Funny stuff.

I expected a link to the Onion or Iowahawk...

When will the Dinosaurs get an apology? The trilobites?

I demand an apology.

Don't know what for yet...but I'm sure there's something in the last couple of thousand years that I'm pissed about that I can't quite think about now.

Now where's the Pope's address?

The Vatican’s ambassador to Egypt has abstained from commenting, saying that Al-Azhar’s request is now being considered by the Holy See.

Polite Vatican-diplomat-speak.

Possible translation: "On yer bike, mate!"

#17 scaramouche

That's sons of apes and pigs!

How about an apology from the Mufti of Jerusalem for not only siding with Hitler, but helpong him plan the murder of jews in the Balkans.

And that was in recent memory, too.

What is sad about all this is how many American kids will think that this is a good idea. Public schools always talk about how evil and nasty the crusades were. They never really explain that they crusades were actually a counter-attack against Muslim invaders.

Well, it's only fair since they have all been so contrite about all those attacks in the name of their religion.

/sarc

I demand George Lucas apologize for Jar Jar Binx.

21 RC neo-Jew

Possible translation: "On yer bike, mate!"

Sorry, I'm from Ohio. Could you translate the translation?

Absurd

The Pope should "apologize" for the Crusades on one of two conditions:

1. Hell freeezes over

2. Grand Sheikh Muhammad Sayyid Tantawi and the maroons at Al-Azhar University will:
- beg the West's forgivness for Islamic terrorism;
- demand that Muslims worldwide stop this crap;
- promise to stop teaching that terrorism is good;
- and promise to turn over to the West any Muslim who commits a terrorist act anywhere in the world.

Then and only then should the Pope even consider an "apology" for anything.

I agree with #6. The apology should be for failing to do what was intended.

Sorry we didn't finish it

They got all the sand, we got all the trees. It was a fair trade.

Sure, we'll apologize. First, give us back Rhodes,apologize for the sieges of Vienna,Malta,the attacks on Eastern Europe that lasted hundreds of years and siding with the Kaiser in WW1. If not, kiss our asses.

Yours,
Catholicism.

I for one, am not sorry.

Fuck off, Achmed!

The Pope's a little hoarse right now. Would Dhimmi Carter do? Or how about Clinton? He was always good about issuing groveling "apologies" for just about anything (except his own transgressions)...

I demand the Islamofascists apologize for forcing the crusades by occupying our holy land.

The crusaders were just following a fatwa and declared jihad on the Islamonazis.

26 - Peacekeeper

why limit it to JarJar? How about entirely ripping apart the mythology and history of the original trilogy and turning ObiWan into a liar.

TO: The Muslims
RE: Sure Thing...

...just as soon as you guys apologizes for the conquest of Spain, Greece, the Balkans, the 9th Century Invasion of France, the attempted conquest of Austria and Hungary, etc., etc., etc.

After you...gentlemen.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
P.S. And promise never to do anything like that again.

How do you say "kiss my pointing-towards-Mecca ass" in Arabic?

If anyone deserves an apology for the Crusades, it's the Jews - but the more I learn, the less I care. Especially if the word "Crusade" makes the Islamofascists shit their pants.

As a Canadian, I'd like to apologise for Celine Dion, Brian Adams and Shania...

Sod off, Swampy!

#22 Ward Cleaver

Oh Ward, you're such a stickler! He turned the Jews of the time into apes and pigs, (a literal transformation, according to the majority of interpretations) so the simian and porcine have been embedded in our DNA ever since.

I demand an apology for the Islamic conquest of North Africa!

Another possible translation: "Sod off, Swampy!"

The Vatican might apologize. It would not shock me in the least. The Catholic Church has been assailed by Islam across the globe and the Vatican has done nothing except heap scorn on the USA for standing up to the menace. Add to the fact that the Church has shown an appalling lack of willingness to root out unprecedented levels of moral corruption within its own ranks (a polite way of saying that the corruption is institutionalized and enabled at very high levels), and probably is not fit to defend itself anyhow.

I say the Vatican attempts to appease and wager 1,000 quatloos.

#36 Dazoid81

Don't get me started! :)

#41 CheezNCrackers

Great minds...

#40 Flanstein

As a Canadian, I'd like to apologise for Celine Dion, Brian Adams and Shania...

And soon, perhaps, also for Sharia.

Oh yea, and we also want an apology for the invasion of Spain and France. We also want an apology for the multi-century occupation of Spain. And, ya know what? Throw in an apology for the Persian Empire's attempted invasions of Europe. I know they weren't muslim, but they were Arabs and we are being trivial today. Until then, smoke a pole ya humps.

-Pope John Paul II.

"I want an apology for all those hospitals and schools and...

Oh. Never mind."

/Emily Litella (sp?)

I demand they eat slag and die. No apologies for something I had no hand in.

#40 Flanstein

Not Shania!

I demand Kevin Costner apologize for Waterworld.

#53 Peacekeeper

I demand Kevin Costner apologize for Kevin Costner.

I demand an apology for the Assyrian wars of conquest that made the Babylonian wars of conquest necessary, and for the Babylonian wars of conquest that made the Persian wars of conquest necessary, and for the Persian wars of conquest that made the Greek wars of conquest necessary, and for the Greek wars of conquest that made the Roman wars of conquest necessary, and...

Anyway, if you think the Crusades were "necessary," you've got a might strange definition of necessary, and if you think Mohammed and the Arabs were the first people to go on an unprovoked campaign of conquest, well, you clearly never took Western Civ I.

Like the Pope doesn't have bigger things to worry about.

I demand an apology for the destruction of the Second Temple, and for the construction of an Islamic mosque on the site.

Dhimmi THIS!

I demand an apology for New Coke.

#47 ErnieG 3/17/2005 02:03PM PST

Heh!

Right you are, Ken.

They should apologize to Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton for not asking them first.

I liked Waterworld, at least the Smokers.

"Smokers!"

"I demand an apology for all the past mistreatment of left-handers by the Church!"

On second thought, since everyone knows why left handers were shunned, fageddaboudit.

Human rights in Islam

Western media presents a distorted image of Islam. The Islamic way of life lays emphasis on justice. It treats humanity on equal footing and provides freedom after ending slavery. The charter of human rights which the United Nations presented before the world in 1948 was preached by the Prophet of Islam 1400 years ago. (Translated from Urdu)

How about apologizing to us for not supporting the Christians and Jews against the current Islamic Jihad?

Where's the Pope Phone? Hello?

“In other news, the people of Germany and Japan are demanding the United States apologize for World War II, crappy American sit-coms and Britney Spears. They are however, grateful for cell phones, Bruce Willis movies and Internet porn.”

//Ken Brockman

Bitches Ain't Shit

Uh, what kind of music are you listening to Charles?

Maybe George Bush would apologize? I dooonnn't thiiinnk sooo.

Shouldn't someone apologize for Elton John too?

OT

Moral relativist on previous thread watch.

They go and stick a large settlement of Jews right in the middle of a country of Arabs. Pretty soon the Jews start claiming land as their own, and making it clear that they have a massive superiority complex. Shortly thereafter, America, guided mostly by sympathy for them, decides to give them a huge foreign aid budget. Meanwhile, the Palestinians are poor. The Israelis don't share, understandably. but as they start building more and more houses on the Palestinian land, the Palestinians realize that they're being pushed out of their land.

I'm not saying the Palestinians are a civilized people, not by a long shot. They're more comparable to an Indian tribe. But this site rushes to post every time a suicide bombing occurs. I'll agree, they're despicable, and the Palestinians are despicable.

But what they don't post is all the new buildings that the Israelis build in Palestinian terrority which are illegal. They do this constantly, so the Palestinians, which are creatures of habit, have made a habbit of responding the only way they are capable.

I love the smell of troll squashing, it smells like a 3 week old sippy cup of milk that rolled under the car seat.

Popes responce. "Fugetaboutit"

They're demanding an apology? Muslims take Sgrena hsostage and now they're acting like her. (I know, different country.) Reverse Stockholm syndrome?

...hmmm...apologize for defending Christians against a murderous horde? . . . good luck with that one...you too have a warped understanding of history Tantawi.

I demand an apology from Canada for that f'dup round bacon.

I demand the music industry apologize for Michael Jackson.

Come to think about it, I demand the Plastic Surgery industry apologixe for Michael Jackson too.

And for Greta van susteren.

#53 Peacekeeper -- "I demand Kevin Costner apologize for Waterworld. "

Not until he apologizes for "Dances with Wolves" first.

#40 Flanstein, #52 Capt. Queeg

NOT shania !

#48 scarmouche

hopefully also not sharia. (may commonsense prevail!)

When will these crackpots ever hop on the bus that left the seventh century? From referring to Christians as "worshipers of the cross," to polygamy and treating women as chattel, these anachronistic psycopaths would be laughingly irrelevant if they weren't so bloodthirsty.

Although I am late on this, my first impulse after "drop dead you morons," was that apologies are in order for every blood-filled Muslim conquest from Spain throughout Asia, their involvement in the African slave trade, (which they still conduct), and their continued daily murder of innocents from Bali to Spain to North America in the name of their death cult masquerading as a religion.

Some might argue that the Crusades did not go far enough, given the hateful cankerous nature of the ROP.

"Public schools always talk about how evil and nasty the crusades were."

During the first Crusade, in just the Rhine Valley, 12,000 Jews were killed. There were eight more crusades until 1272.

In one incident, crusaders forced every jew in Jerusalem into a burning shul. Anyone who tried to escape was forced back in.

Many Jews commited suicide rather than be forced to convert.

Muslims were actually much more tolerant of Jews during this period than Christians were.

What about the Cambrian extinction? Huh? Whose gonna apologize for that?

As soon as al-Azhar apologizes to the Jews...

#27 Aladin Sane

Translation of
On yer bike!

So what would the people of Ohio say to Sheikh Fawzi Zafzaf?

(Zafzaf? Isn't that a drink?)

I demand Massachusetts apologize for Teddy Kennedy and John Kerry!

The Crusades were aggressive the same way D-Day in Normandy was aggression against Nazi Germany in 1944.

I demand an apology from Donald Trump for his hair (Apology from the hair itself will do), Joseph Kennedy Sr. for siring despicable wretches, and that guy in the blue Celica who cut me off in traffic on January 20.

Only when they apologize on their knees for the rape of Africa, the conquest of Spain, the eradication of the Byzantine Empire and all it's western culture, the pillage of hundreds of churches and subsequent desicration by turning them into stinking places of worship of the moon diety.

Then we'll get onto the other smaller atrocities Islam has foisted on the world. In other words:

Sod off Swampies.

This is why these "cultures" are stuck in the dark ages. To lamely paraphrase Chris Rock's infamous "If you call you Grandmother 'Mom' and your Mother 'Pam' ... you're goin' to jail":

If you carry a grudge from hundreds of years ago & you see women as breeders and slaves ...

You ain't goin' anywhere but Mecca.

83 RC neo-Jew

Thanks for the translation. In Ohio, we'd just say "Fuck off asshole!" But hey, we're in flyover country anyway.

I see a franchise opportunity for these asshats...

I demand American Infidel apologize for liking that misbegotten mess that starts with Costner drinking his own piss! Or had you forgotten that? I'm waiting... (crosses arms and taps foot).

Sarah D.: Heh ... that's the latest single from Ben Folds. It's a brutal parody of gangsta rap.

Massachusets could never apologize enough.

I'd like to apologize for the rape and pillage of Western Europe done by my paternal-lineage ancestors, and aggresive colonization of Iceland and Greenland (what a mistake THAT was!) -- and the slaughter of Skralings in Vinland.

s/Kristen

/sarc

Well, I'm getting the feeling they might have more luck from the sorryeverybody.com crowd than this one.

An all purpose apology from Adam and Eve for causing all the trouble in first place would be in order about now. Ditto the serpent. Let's start all over again and do it right this time. Don't bite that damn apple and we'll all be blissfully ignorant living in paradise.

I won't apologize for lutefisk, however.

*whisper* should Richard Dreyfus apologize for "Mr. Holland's Opus" ? *whisper*

just saying. . .

I think an apology is in order.

Apology: noun: "A formal justification or defense."

Not only in order, but fairly straightforward and easy to do. I'll do it for il Papa: Arab imperialism was threatening Europe.

I doubt the good Sheik will be satisfied but hey, that's his problem.

This is completely and utterly off-topic, but since many of the readers here live in California and other high-priced areas I figured this is as good a place to ask as any.

My question is: How can you people in LA afford it? I looked at comparable real estate (typical tract homes) in parts of Houston and Orange County. The enormous housing bubble should be obvious to California residents, but I suspect it isn't - you guys are STILL bidding up the prices! I have more written here if you want to read it:

[Link: louminatti.blogspot.com...]

Better sell while you can! I've heard that those inside a bubble can never see it.

Speaking of demanding apologies, one of my faves is Harvey Keitel in "Resevior Dogs":

"Your shoot me in a dream, you better wake up and apologize!"

Just as soon as they hand back Constantinople (and repair the cathedral that was butchered into a mosque), pay reparations for the invasion of Spain and Austria (and other European regions such as the Balkans), aplogize for the Ottoman empire, hand back north africa, "the holy land" and other regions that belonged to the eastern (christian) Roman empire.

I demand that the picture of rocks in the 7W ad be replaced immediately with our beloved hot chick.

I'm not sorry.

Time for another "not sorry" website, medieval version?

What, no reparations?

ah the sharks smell blood and are going in for the kill. if i were the pope i'd declare islam a heretic religion and start a new crusade.

Blue Chip:

“In other news, the people of Germany and Japan are demanding the United States apologize for World War II, crappy American sit-coms and Britney Spears. They are however, grateful for cell phones, Bruce Willis movies and Internet porn.”

...you forgot David Hasselhof and dodgy glam metal.

MM (#23):

How about an apology from the Mufti of Jerusalem for not only siding with Hitler, but helpong him plan the murder of jews in the Balkans.

Not just the Balkans. The Holocaust itself was, for the large part, his idea.

Come to think of it, didn't the English have to pay a ransom to get back Richard the Lionheart from his failed Crusade? Now they want an apology too?

#107 helloworld

Well, that would certainly be unexpected.

I demand an apology from The Clash for featuring a video in which a Hasid and an arab eating McDonald's

I also demand an apology from all the people who voted for sKerry. a public apology. With pictures. And I want it on a prominent website.

What chutzpah. Are they taking talking points from our LLLs and democrat/victim party, restititution this, remedy that, rewrite history to suit me?

I also demand someone apologize for leisure suits,disco,capri pants and those stupid, colored,skinny ass cigarettes.

Sheikh Fawzi Zafzaf, President of the Interfaith Dialogue Committee

Nursing a 800-year-old grudge is a psychopath's idea of a suitable subject for "interfaith dailogue".

#84 Aladin Sane

As a resident of Massachusetts, I offer my humble apologies (and ask for your sympathies).

//conservatives in Mass

And don't forget, the next step after an apology is... reparations!

The Islamic world will claim that the only reason that their technological progress stopped 1000 years ago is that evil Christians and Jews subjugated them. So if we assume that Riyadh would have naturally become the Silicon Valley of the Arab world, and the Islamic economy (excluding oil) would be the size of that of the US plus Europe, the lost revenues that are owed to them would be at least in the tens of trillions of dollars, right?

So before the Pope apologizes, he might consider that the next thing they'll want is the assets of the Catholic Church, as a down payment on what's owed them.

The Crusades were a good idea. Too bad the Crusaders didn't roll on to Mecca.

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112 alkmyst

I also demand an apology from all the people who voted for sKerry. a public apology. With pictures. And I want it on a prominent website

It's called sorryeverybody.com. Trouble is, they're apologizing for not winning.

The Crusades were defensive, the Hitler of that time in history ,was Mohhamed.

Moh and his gang would go village to village, kill the men, rape the women and children, and take the loot.

This is how he came to power.

An apology would be like, the Jewish apologizing for Hitler.

#93 Charles

I'm pretty sure I'm glad I can't hear it.

:-)

#106

How 'bout multiple independently-targetable reparations in the form delivered by Minuteman?

When you care enough to send the very best! -- s/ C.O. Grand Forks, Malstrom, Minot and F.E. Warren AF Bases

#106 redstateredneck

Aww, you beat me to it.

Oh, by the way, if you're looking for a working definition of The Crusades, try this

A mass uprising of Dark Age semi-barbarians led by mad monks and crazed clerics to liberate Jerusalem and The Holy Land from the infidel and the Jews.

If the show fits, Fawzi, wear it.

It is now well known that the Crusades were a belated defensive measure against the Jihad that was ongoing against Christian countries in the ME. I hope therefore that the Vatican will ask for an apology from muslims for the Jihad and the subsequent massacres of Christians and Jews at the time.

Moving to the present and a bit more relevant - when are islamic leaders going to apologise for the genocide of Christians and Animists in Sudan? Also the massacres of Christians in Sulawesi, Indonesia.

As Al-Azhar is in Egypt - when is Al-Azhar going to condemn the government sanctioned discrimination of Copts in Egypt, the kidnapping and forced conversion of Coptic girls to islam?

When are muslims going to apologise for the greatest genocide in history - the massacre of some 70 to 80 million Hindus in their own land?

It is time that muslims renounce both dhimmitude and jihad against non-Muslims, and openly acknowledge the horrific devastation they have unleashed on mankind over the last 1400 years.

Islam has a lot to apologise for, but I will be content if muslims apologised for just one individual - muhammed, in recognition that he was a thoroughly debased individual.

An apology to the Muslims for the crusades? Well, let's see, um, ahhh, ah-hem, well we probably could, ummm...no.

They got their apology(and reparations) in 1947,1967,1973

Bwahahahahahaha

The Vatican might apologize. It would not shock me in the least.

I'd be surprised if they didn't.

Crusades, oh yeah. That's when Frodo had to take those horses to battle Middle Earth.

#107

"ah the sharks smell blood and are going in for the kill. if i were the pope i'd declare islam a heretic religion and start a new crusade."

And don't forget to kill as many Jews on the way as possible!

45 studsup

The Vatican might apologize. It would not shock me in the least.

I fear that you may be right.

BTW, hasnt the Vatican already apologised for the Crusades?

I demand the Spanish apologize to the bulls...

[Link: www.junkstuff.dk...]

#101

City dwellers are in Calif. are mostly moonbats that need to flock together, no matter the cost.

I demand an apology from Steven Bochco for "Cop Rock!"

#26 Peacekeeper
Maybe Chewbacca will beat up Jar Jar's father in the new movie. Keep a good thought.

Sheikh Fawzi Zafzaf

I demand an aplogy from Zafzaf for Zamzam (or Zumzum)

Zam Zam

In 1971, an Egyptian doctor wrote to the European Press, a letter saying that Zumzum water was not fit for drinking purposes. I immediately thought that this was just a form of prejudice against the Muslims and that since his statement was based on the assumption that since the Ka'aba was a shallow place (below sea level) and located in the center of the city of Makkah, the wastewater of the city collecting through the drains fell into well holding the water...

When will Muslims apologize for Mohammed being a pedophile?

[Link: web.ukonline.co.uk...]

the pope is old and tired, he'd probably do it. But then again, it took quite a while to apologize for the Galileo incident. Did they ever really apologize for that. I remember they apologized for the holocaust. But then again, I am getting old and am very tired right now--maybe I'll apologize if it will get them to SHUT UP.

I am really beginning to believe these whako's are professional spaghetti throwers. Sooner or later something will stick--statistically speaking. What a waste of human resources! Why waste energy throwing spaghetti when you could be building your country?

The blood is frozen in my veins and the ground is shaking beneath my feet. Also, someone left the gates of hell open and there's an awful draft ...

I demand an apology!

O/T:

You friends and admirers at DU want to know:

Have you completed your daily pillaging?

#122 el presidente

Ann Coulter ought to lead the last & total warfare crusade. Take no enemies.

This time with Texas cowboys up front & any remaining descendants of ye olde Spanish conquistador/swine herders bringing up the rear.

Will they apologize for TWELVE centuries of muslim PIRATES in the Mediterranean, raiding the European coasts and kidnapping people to enslave them or for ransom ?

Now I've seen everything.

Oh, wait, that's right: I still haven't seen a man eat his own head.

#137 cjstavern:

Oh, come on ... you aren't looking forward to "The Shield - The Musical?"

I demand an apology from Lewis and Clark for eating my great great great great grandmother's dog.

I want an apology to whoever dreams up health food like oat bran, soy milk, and other pseudo-foods.

The Crusades were an awfully long time ago, is that when Islam peaked?

Hmm. No Jews are going to stand up to some of the valorizing of the Crusades that's going on here?

That's pathetic and suggests real ignorance. At least I hope it's ignorance...i.e. I hope it's not fear or self-loathing that's keeping you all so quiet.

OT

18Z NAM (old ETA) model shows lifted indices getting as high* as -8^oC in SE Texas Saturday afternoon.

The Lifted Index can be found from looking at a skew-t thermodynamic diagram.The lifed index takes into account low level moisture. A negative lifted index indicates the possibility of convection. A lifted index less than -6C indicates the possibility of extremly intense convection. To find LI you subtract the temperature of the parcel at 500mb from the environmental temperature at 500mb.

The table below gives a general indication of the strength of convection likely, given the hight of the LFC (from Sturtevant, 1994):

LI Value Thunderstorm Potential
postitive value unlikely
0 to -2 possible with good trigger
-3 to -5 probable
less than -5 strong
note "positive" is spelled wrong, but whoever put this up at the OSU Buckeye Twister website is probably a good guy, so let it slide . Oh, and technically -8 is low, but we're talking absolute value, as long as its negative)-Ed

CAPE exceeds 3000 Joules/Kg at the same time

CAPE represents the amount of buoyant energy available to accelerate a parcel vertically, or the amount of work a parcel does on the environment. The higher the CAPE value, the more energy available to foster storm growth. CAPE is especially important when air parcels are able to reach the Layer of Free Convection (LFC). To find CAPE from a skew-T thermodynamic diagram, simply locate the area on the diagram where the parcel sounding (light green line) is warmer or farther to the right than the atmosphere sounding (red line). This corresponds to the white shaded region on the sounding below:

The white region is called the "positive energy" region. This area of this region is CAPE in Joules/kg. Naturally, the larger this area, the more CAPE, and the more energy that is available to rising parcels.
The chart below can be used objectively to gain a greater understanding of what numerical values of CAPE inidcate as it relates to convection of air parcels. A current map displayling CAPE across the country can be seen here.

CAPE value Convective potential
0 Stable
0-1000 Marginally Unstable
1000-2500 Moderately Unstable
2500-3500 Very Unstable
3500 + Extremely Unstable

It is important to remember that CAPE represents potential energy, and will only be used should a parcel be lifted to the level of free convection.

That explanantion refers to a skew-T diagram, here.

0-3 km storm relative helicity is a little lower than I'd like, about 100 J/Kg (well, traditional units are m²/s², but J/Kg is equally valid and easier to type.) High CAPE and low-moderate shear suggests the tornado risk isn't that good, but the threat of severe wind and hail should be decent.

#146 Cato

Look again
[Link: hem.passagen.se...]

121 American Infidel

Abram should apologize for having an affair with Hagar and begot himself Ishmael and now today we wouldn't have to deal with these wild ass moslems...

He couldn't help it; Sarai sent her to him.

Are any of our $billions in US tax dollars going to fund this crappy Egyptian government approved school & "scholar"? This guy's getting on my last nerve like Wardo Churchill's ridiculous academic screeds.

The Poe has already apologized for the sacking of Constantinople in 1024 AD...Isn't that good enough.

You just can't satisfy some people.

Yawn.

I got yer apology right here...

[Link: www.maximum-ink.com...]

None of these links are working,,, I demand an apology.

see, we don't deserve an apology for the current terrorist attacks...

but the crusades (which were wholly wrong), which no living person experienced... THAT needs an apology?

ha!

that's almost as funny as a preemptive french attack.

Will they apologize for the occupation of France and the destruction of the Louvre that happened in 2025 ?

#154 redstateredneck

He couldn't help it; Sarai sent her to him.

you have to admit... that's the best defense for an affair..

"but honey... you TOLD me to!"

#36 dazoid81

How was Obi Wan a liar?

#161 lancekates

that's almost as funny as a preemptive french attack.

LOL! They did however invent 'preemptive surrender' ;-)

Since 3/4 of my family is originally from europe, I demand an apology from the islamists for the jihad that caused so much damage and loss to my ancestors homelands to which the crusades were the reaction.

American Infidel

(still waiting)

When are muslims going to apologise for the drivel that comes from the "holy" mosques in Mecca, such as this

O God, destroy the infidels and polytheists, thine enemies, the enemies of the religion. O God, make their children orphans, and defile their abodes, and cause their feet to slip, and give them and their families, and their households and their women and their children and their relations by marriage and their brothers and their friends and their possessions and their race and their wealth and their lands as booty to the Muslims

Is it any surprise that genocide of non-muslims is considered acceptable when such are the "sermons" from the mosques of Arabia?

I have on many occasions written that muslims are the first victims of islam, in that their minds were subjugated to a cult. But surely by now they must see the truth. What is wrong with muslims as humans that they do not see the poison of the koran?

#150 Moishe Pipick
#152 Am Inf

Sorry for the omission, I thought it a given and understood universally this payback venture (call it whatever most p.o.'s Islamofascists) would be masterminded by fearless Joooish warriors, neocons or Karl Rove.

I demand an apology from Dan Fogelberg for making such lame music and for causing generations of guys to become more effeminate than before.

Crusade Myths

Hmmm... Pesach is coming up... Did the Egyptians ever apologize for the 400-years-of-slavery thing? "Ok. Fine. Just GTF out already" wasn't technically an apology- especially when Pharoah rounded up his chariot posse and tried to renege... Just a thought.

I want an apology from the Pope for not getting the job done ... and for The Children's Crusade ...

And from the Brits and Aussies and Kiwis for Vegemite and Marmite ... there's no excuse for that crap.

The Pope's response: "Go forth and multiply."

#40 Flanstein

As a Canadian, I'd like to apologise for Celine Dion, Brian Adams and Shania...

No sweat, dude. You gave us Rush and hockey. More than makes up for it. Plus, Shania is easy on these imperial capitalist eyes.

OT

Re: MJ
I'm not usually inclined to agree with psychologists, but this one seems to be close to the mark:

"is a guy that's like a 10-year-old child. And, you know, he's doing what a 10-year-old would do with his little buddies. You know, they're gonna jack off, watch movies, drink wine, you know. And, you know, he doesn't even really qualify as a pedophile. He's really just this regressed 10-year-old."

[Link: www.thesmokinggun.com...]

#174 Jheka

And from the Brits and Aussies and Kiwis for Vegemite and Marmite ... there's no excuse for that crap.

And for British 'food', Foster's beer commercials and all the sheep in NZ. But to be fair, thanks NZ for Peter Jackson and LOTR!

I'm very sorry the Crusaders attacked the Orthodox Church, especially the Jews, the Languedoc, and eventually lost the Crusades. Maybe if they'd stayed focused, instead of the constant infighting. Islam just keeps creeping along, like a giant amoeba.

#172 Ringo

you'll understand if I'm a big hesitant to accept information about the Crusades from a catholic website...

nothing against the Catholic church, but I prefer a bit more unbiased opinion.

When will they apologize for the destruction of the Eastern Roman Empire? BTW, the Crusaders did not win. There are no Christain nations in the middle east.

#175 Rayra

Thanks for reminder of another personnel upgrade opportunity: Bush wants El Baradei out on his heiny; think of the hawkish possibilities--and I don't mean nookyular djimmy carter!

American Infidel

Fer crying out loud! They were sailing around on the Exxon Valdez with no food but an endless supply of cigarettes? Does that make any sense?

Oh FOAD already! I'm sick of their damned demands. A plague be upon them.

The Crusades: A Defensive Gesture
Popular perceptions paint the Crusades as an act of Christian aggression toward as alien Eastern culture. Although the desire to enrich Europe with captured plunder and lands, and the desire to spread the faith of Christianity were two important catalysts to the declaration of the Crusades, they were not the actual reasons that motivated these wars. Pope Urban II officially declared the First Crusade on Tuesday, November 27, 1095, with the goal of liberating the land formerly held by the Christians; and the liberation of oppressed Christians in the Middle East. Urban's declaration shows that the Crusades were not an aggressive venture by the Europeans, but rather a defensive move to count what they perceived as a looming threat to their lands and their faith.

Eastern aggression indirectly led to Pope Urban's declaration. After the death of Mohammed, Arab armies began successfully invading other nations. The Koran condemns aggressive acts of warfare, however, and a justification for these violations of Mohammed's principles was needed. Muslim jurists formed the concept of the jihad, or holy struggle, as the sought-after justification. The jihad's objective was to conquer the rest of the non-Muslim world "so that the world could reflect the divine unity [of God]" (Holy War, p. 40).

Under jihad, Arabs "conquered Palestine, Syria, Mesopotamia, and Egypt" (Infopedia, Byzantium). Constantinople survived two sieges, one in the 670s and another in 717-718. After the decline of the influential Abassids, the more belligerent Seljuk dynasty dominated in the 11th and 12th centuries. The Seljuks converted to Islam in the 10th century and controlled most of Iran and Iraq under Togrul Beg (c. 990-1063). Togrul's successors, Alp Arslan (c. 1029-1072) and Malik Shah (1055-1092) extended the Seljuk empire into Syria and Palestine. In 1071, Arslan conducted a campaign that resulted in the battle of Manzikert, where he routed the Byzantines. The battle of Manzikert "was the indirect cause of the Crusades" (The First Crusade, p. 28), heralding Byzantium's loss of control in Asia Minor. This loss of control "lay behind the appeal to the West in 1095" (The Crusades, p. 2). For the next ten years, Byzantium was in chaos and unable to counter the Turks. Then Emperor Alexius I of Byzantium ascended to the throne and waited for a suitable time to launch a counter-offensive against the Turks. By 1095, Alexius was ready to attack the Turks, but he desperately needed soldiers for his army. Alexius decided to send envoys to Urban's Council at Piacenza, who appealed to the assembled bishops and to the Pope to "send members of their flocks eastward to fight for their faith" (The First Crusade, p. 40). It is said that Urban told his audience that "a grave report has come from the lands around Jerusalem and from the city of Constantinople" (The Cross and the Crescent, p. 18), referring to Alexius' request for aid. Urban also stated that

. . . a people from the kingdom of the Persians, a foreign race, a race absolutely alien to God . . . has invaded the land of those Christians, has reduced the people with sword, rapine and flame. . .' (The Cross and the Crescent, p. 18)

Clearly, Muslim aggression acted as a catalyst to Urban's declaration.

(continued...)

@154 redstateredneck

Yeah look at the mess that woman has caused us all by sticking her nose into G-d's business!

155 alegrias

Not quite what you asked

Daniel Pipes brings to notice an article by Sherrie Gossett, that the Bush adminstration provided funds to an islamist group, ISNA (Islamist Society of North America), for social work. Daniel Pipes states that the ISMA is a Wahhabi organisation.

ISNA describes itself as moderate in outlook but some journalists who have examined the organization contend that it is linked it to Wahhabism, the extreme form of radical Islam that gave rise to Osama bin Laden and his al Qaeda movement.
..

Mohamed El-sanousi, Director, Community Outreach & Communications for ISNA, was invited to and attended the Faith-Based Initiative meeting on March 1. He told AIM his organization has already received two grants in 2003 and 2004 under the faith-based initiative from the Department of Health and Human Services; specifically the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration. ISNA does not itself engage in social services, El-sanousi said, but trains others to do so. "We're a community development organization," he said. "We used the grants to train Muslim community leaders in how to apply for grants to do social services."

[Link: www.aim.org...]

Mohamed El-sanousi openly admits that the funds provided are for training on how to milk the system. I presume that funds so raised are for training islamic clerics.

I suppose that the ISMA is dedicated to furthering peace and tolerance in accordance with the principles of the RoP.
Sometimes one wants to throw up one's hands in despair.

165 - knotboy

In the original (a new hope), old Ben Kenobi tells luke that when he first met Luke's father he was a powerful guy. In episode 1 though, Luke's father is clearly a little kid when Obi Wan meets him. Obi Wan also says that Yoda was his trainer, when episode one shows us that Qui Gon was his trainer. And thats not even getting into the whole changing the force from something supernatural to something genetic!

#150 Moishe Pipick

I don't think it is so much valorizing the actions of the Crusaders, so much as deriding the demands of the stupid islamists.

The Crusades weren't a bad idea, but were executed badly. It was a LONG time ago. And yes, there were many atrocities against the Jews by the Christian knights and entourage. Let's all just pick up and go on knowing that there are evil men in the world that do evil things, regardless of intentions.

Islam can't do this, as it has a hate memory that is millenia long. Furthermore I have never once heard an Islamist apologize to an infidel. Therefore they can all simply piss off!

Of all the days, too.

Hey, I'm Irish. Someone owes me some kind of apology, right?

Or maybe it's the other way around. Whatever.

Guinness time. Yay!

The Vatican’s ambassador to Egypt has abstained
from commenting, saying that Al-Azhar’s request
is now being considered by the Holy See.

Oh, oh, oh. Let's have GWB nominate the next replacement for Pope too.

It (the Vatican) really needs a thorough house cleaning. What an idiot.

AI

[Link: www.delos.fantascienza.com...]

188 shinken

Please send the link to the Vatican, just in case they have not read it.

In the spirit of futile apology requests - I want one from France! Oh, and the Vikings too.

The Islamic Ruling Committee can go pound wet sand.

They were the aggressors then and now, and they want an apology from the Pope.

When pigs fly and wear pink tutus would be my response if I was the pope... guess that's why they would never let me be pope.

Apologize?

No way!

That would only lead to talk of reparations!

189 Quark2

"Behold, you are with child, and shall bear a son; you shall call his name Ishmael; because The Lord has given heed to your affliction. He shall be a wild ass of a man, his hand against every man and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell over against all his kinsmen." (Genesis 16:11-12 RSV).

Ain't it the truth...

This is just a smoke screen . To raise the hackles of the Populus for there loss of control and the expansion of FREEDOM.

#159 American Infidel  3/17/2005 02:32PM PST

"Perhaps they are not trying to drum up any animosity between Christian & Jews, ever think of that?

This is not a good time in world history to dig up old hurts & pain... "

Yeah, if I were a Christian I would have ignored this whole thing, as the Crusades are a terrific embarrassment, a truly evil period in history as far antisemtism goes. I probably wouldn't hail the Crusades as some sort of noble, secular defensive enterprise. Check the "Crusades Myths" limk above. (Jews hold your nose.)

Truth is, Islam used to be much better to Jews than Christianity was during this long period in history. Denying the truth never helps anyone. Christian insecurity and self-delusion does.

I demand an apology from the peoples of Egypt for laying the ground work for tax accounting which has made all our lives miserable.

Those that aren't math inclined should probably demand an apology for the entire arabic numberal system altogether.

#196 Always Right:

That's Brilliant.

President Bush: "I'd just like to announce first that I'm appointing Richard Perle Pope, effective immediately. I won't be taking any questions but I'm sure that his Holiness, Pope Perle, will have comments later today ... oh, wait ... it's the Sabbath ... tomorrow, then.

We Jews don't give to shits for apologies, we just want the goyim to leave us the fuck alone for a change!

Although, I would like Canada to apologize for Celine Dion, and Europe for the metric system.

Classic Kos, exposing his true beliefs:

Remember on Tuesday, how Reid stood with 37 Democratic Senators on the steps of the Capitol to warn Republicans not to employ the "nuclear option" and eliminate the filibuster on judicial nominees?

Well, guess who wasn't there?
Conspicuous by their absence from Reid's Capitol steps event were two Democrats: Sen. Ben Nelson of Nebraska, who has voted against all but one of the Democratic filibusters since 2003, and Sen. Joe Lieberman of Connecticut. Both men are up for re-election next year, and Nelson is running in a state Bush won with 66 percent of the vote.
Nelson has a good excuse. What was Lieberman's?

Hmmm, so you your ability, as a Democrat, to make a reasonable choices depends on the strength of support Republicans enjoy in your home state.

[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

#190 Savage Nation

Library of Alexandria...

The info is not correct but I will not go into it because I don't want to create a division in here.

Info related to that: see Ipazia (Ipatia).

192 DAZOID81

Much has George Lucas to apologize for...

The Death Star wasn't even ADA compliant. Pure Evil.

158 sixstringslinger

The Man in Black *bows head in respect* One of my favourite songs:

When the Man Comes Around

#208 J. Lichty

What did Celine Dion do?

Tell them the Christians, who were there first, want an apology for the sacking of Constantinople!

PIMF #209

make a = make

#205 A I

That's what I get too.

Pipick

Truth is, Islam used to be much better to Jews than Christianity was during this long period in history. Denying the truth never helps anyone. Christian insecurity and self-delusion does.

Yeah, dhimmitude was bliss compared to the inquisition. Boy, what a Hobson's Choice.

lancekates,

you'll understand if I'm a bit hesitant to accept information about the Crusades from a catholic website..

And I suppose you'd be hesitant to accept escargot recipies from a French website?

Speaking of crusades, why don't we go in and take just enough Saudi oil to crash down the price to something reasonable? The people in Saudi who own this oil do not deserve to own it. Furthermore, they use the proceeds to do evil to us and practically everyone else in the world. Just the price alone (aside from what they do with the money) is killing poor people everywhere, starving them to death and making basic human needs beyond their reach.

AI
Naw, just another bad link. A photo of Costner being held prisoner in a septic tank-remember that one? Poopy!

(Sigh) Can we at least agree the THE POSTMAN sucked? :)

Since they claim to have invented it, I want an apology for algebra.

Tell the Imams that "pre-Democracy" thinking to seek to place "blame" instead of including it as historical fact, nothing more or less, no one alive today could possibly be blamed on either side for the time of the Crusades, BUT NOT TO PUT TOO FINE A POINT ON IT, the Crusades happened in response to Islamic terror!

#221 Sarah D

Already been demanded (in a sense)...

skippy:

What did Celine Dion do?

My recollection is that she sucked.

The Real History of the Crusades

...Misconceptions about the Crusades are all too common. The Crusades are generally portrayed as a series of holy wars against Islam led by power-mad popes and fought by religious fanatics. They are supposed to have been the epitome of self-righteousness and intolerance, a black stain on the history of the Catholic Church in particular and Western civilization in general. A breed of proto-imperialists, the Crusaders introduced Western aggression to the peaceful Middle East and then deformed the enlightened Muslim culture, leaving it in ruins. For variations on this theme, one need not look far. See, for example, Steven Runciman’s famous three-volume epic, History of the Crusades, or the BBC/A&E documentary, The Crusades, hosted by Terry Jones. Both are terrible history yet wonderfully entertaining.

So what is the truth about the Crusades? Scholars are still working some of that out. But much can already be said with certainty. For starters, the Crusades to the East were in every way defensive wars. They were a direct response to Muslim aggression—an attempt to turn back or defend against Muslim conquests of Christian lands.

Christians in the eleventh century were not paranoid fanatics. Muslims really were gunning for them. While Muslims can be peaceful, Islam was born in war and grew the same way. From the time of Mohammed, the means of Muslim expansion was always the sword. Muslim thought divides the world into two spheres, the Abode of Islam and the Abode of War. Christianity—and for that matter any other non-Muslim religion—has no abode. Christians and Jews can be tolerated within a Muslim state under Muslim rule. But, in traditional Islam, Christian and Jewish states must be destroyed and their lands conquered. When Mohammed was waging war against Mecca in the seventh century, Christianity was the dominant religion of power and wealth. As the faith of the Roman Empire, it spanned the entire Mediterranean, including the Middle East, where it was born. The Christian world, therefore, was a prime target for the earliest caliphs, and it would remain so for Muslim leaders for the next thousand years.

With enormous energy, the warriors of Islam struck out against the Christians shortly after Mohammed’s death. They were extremely successful. Palestine, Syria, and Egypt—once the most heavily Christian areas in the world—quickly succumbed. By the eighth century, Muslim armies had conquered all of Christian North Africa and Spain. In the eleventh century, the Seljuk Turks conquered Asia Minor (modern Turkey), which had been Christian since the time of St. Paul. The old Roman Empire, known to modern historians as the Byzantine Empire, was reduced to little more than Greece. In desperation, the emperor in Constantinople sent word to the Christians of western Europe asking them to aid their brothers and sisters in the East...

History of Islam:
The So Many Totalitarian Regimes...
... The so many battles and wars

What the Crusades Were Really Like (Part 1)

...From the time of Mohammed, Muslims had sought to conquer the Christian world. They did a pretty good job of it, too. After a few centuries of steady conquests, Muslim armies had taken all of North Africa, the Middle East, Asia Minor and most of Spain.

In other words, by the end of the 11th century the forces of Islam had captured two-thirds of the Christian world. Palestine, the home of Jesus Christ; Egypt, the birthplace of Christian monasticism; Asia Minor, where St. Paul planted the seeds of the first Christian communities -- these were not the periphery of Christianity but its very core.

And the Muslim empires were not finished yet. They continued to press westward toward Constantinople, ultimately passing it and entering Europe itself. ,,

KOS can eat slag. I used to work for Nelson and he was a decent man, and to be honest, Nebraska Democrats would be called republican in any other state. Coruse now with the loons in charge, just watch Nebraska turn crimson as they alienate the reasonable Dems in this state.

"I apologize. I apologize for not telling you my true feelings, and for not telling you that you are a cowardly, degenerate old man, and you can go to HELL before I'll apologize to you!"

-- Rough IIRC of Kirk Douglas as Col. Dax in "Paths of Glory"

#221 Sarah D

see #206

#195 JammieWearingFool

I'm sorry I don't have a 6 pack of Guiness right now.

The west should apologize for not kicking every Muslim back to the Arabian peninsula where they came from, and this should have been done well before the first crusade.

Sure the Christians should apologise. In return, I expect that the muslims should apologise for mohammedpig's murder of Jews during his misspent life on earth. And that's just for a start.

How about apologising for Saladin invading Jerusalem, a Jewish city?

How about apologising for genocide in Darfur, Israel, Indonesia, Phillipines, Algeria...

I could go on, but better the west should declare islam illegal in western countries now and expel the maggots who are trying to spread its evil fundamentalism.

Oh - and the weather! I demand an apology for the weather; we had snow today, here in VA. Now, do I ask Ed for the apology, or Karl Rove?

I demand a Guinness, Damn it!

Truth is, Islam used to be much better to Jews than Christianity was during this long period in history. Denying the truth never helps anyone. Christian insecurity and self-delusion does.

Well, my dear Moby, you are always welcome to whine from the comfort of ... let's say ... Damascus.

#199 Irish

OK. I apologize for my ancestors' (see #95) actions.

OT OT OT

The BBC is at it again

Secret US plans for Iraq's oil

The Bush administration made plans for war and for Iraq's oil before the 9/11 attacks, sparking a policy battle between neo-cons and Big Oil, BBC's Newsnight has revealed.

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

#158 & #212
Listening to the man and looking at the picture. Lovin' it!

Perfect. Yup, that's the proper response.

AI

I can't wait for you to come to your senses- you Costner coveting commentator. See you later!

#194 Orson Buggy  3/17/2005 02:45PM PST

I don't think it is so much valorizing the actions of the Crusaders, so much as deriding the demands of the stupid islamists.

This is my favorite:

#122 el presidente'

"The Crusades were defensive, the Hitler of that time in history, was Mohhamed...An apology would be like, the Jewish apologizing for Hitler. "

Ignorant and offensive!

229,

Since I'm not posting from a pub, I have those cool cans with the toy inside that makes noise when you open them.

Christians in the eleventh century were not paranoid fanatics.

That's a good one.

Perfidious Pigshit Cult

Go pray to the petrified dinosaur shit

Throw a stone at Your God

and kiss my ass.

I've only lived in two different centuries, and the 11th wasn't one of them.

But I did save money by switcing to Geico.

#244 Q

Gratefully, I missed that one.

I want an apology from Nissan. Maybe they were trying to get a little revenge for Nagasaki, but hey, I didn't drop it.

I wonder if that Egyptian university gets any of the $ we give Mubarik?

I still want an apology from Nissan. Ruined my whole trip.

#217 J. Lichty

Yeah, dhimmitude was bliss compared to the inquisition. Boy, what a Hobson's Choice.

The Inquisition got most of its techniques from the Albigensian Crusade which slaughtered as many Catholics as it did Cathars. Moreover, the modern nation of France owes its existence to the Albigensian Crusade. France: a nation built on rivers of blood. Also known as Beheadings R' Us.

Flying Tigress - accepted! Btw, did you know that the Vikings founded Ireland's cities?

#130 Bob's Kid

The Vatican might apologize. It would not shock me in the least.

I'd be surprised if they didn't

Wouldn't surprise me either way. Craven appeasement is philosophically very consistent with their general attitude. On the other hand, never underestimate the power of the World's Oldest Bureaucracy to simply ignore whatever it chooses.

cathy :-)

The US had nothing to do with the Crusades. the EU could apologize if then want to.

I suspect that the spineless EU won't, but good for them for not yielding anyway.

225 fiery celt

Steven Runciman’s famous three-volume epic, History of the Crusades, or the BBC/A&E documentary, The Crusades, hosted by Terry Jones. Both are terrible history yet wonderfully entertaining.

I recently saw both and recognized them as self-hating liberalism. Especially Jones. He could not trip over himself enough in debasing the west and kissing up to Islam. The more scholarly BBC version of history was less emotional but also knew the good guys from the bad guys -- and we ain't the good guys. I recently saw something on the History Channel, a history of the Knights Templar that presented the complexities without too much self-hating propaganda. I especially liked the back-channel alliances with the Assassins. If you blow this up -- excuse me, expand this -- you can see the state of the Assassins between the states of Antioch and Tripoli, right around where Hezbollah currently holds sway.

And Tigress - I would like to apologize for Brian Boru's defeat of the Vikings in the battle of Clontarf in 1014!
So sorry about that - but you must understand - it was the one and only time in all of history that the Irish actually united.

The EU should not apologize for the Crusades which was at the time a response to Islamic imperialism.

 
#233 American Infidel  3/17/2005 02:55PM PST

Truth is, Islam used to be much better to Jews than Christianity was during this long period in history...

"I don't believe that is the view held by Bat Ye'or, she has made it her business to study dhimmitude and it wasn't rosey for Jews under moslems..."

The majority of Jewish medieval scholars would endorse the view that Jewish life under Mulsim rule, although obviously not ideal, was better than under Christian rule. (Dhimmitude or forced conversion and death, that's an easy choice for me.)

"As for the rest & your obvious hatred of Christians, I am not going to touch that with a ten foot pole..."

I don't hate Christians. I'm just very suspicious of those who spend thier hours railing against Islam but seem incapable of even acknowledging the past sins of Christianity. Often such people skip over the facts suggesting that Islam and Christianity have more in common with each other than Christianity does with Judaism. So, just because I think "Judeo-Christian" is a misnomer, doesn't mean I hate Christians. It's hardly "obvious".

#252 GrassyKnoll 1963

The US had nothing to do with the Crusades

Are you joking ?
Rove convinced the Pope .

I hope this isn't the rhetorical propaganda device that precedes a more conventional destructive event to jack up the terror points.

Whenever muslims are asked to stand up a speak out against the latest koran inspired islamic atrocity they say there isn't a body or authority representing muslims the way christians are.

Well it goes both ways, how can the pope give an apology to them if they can't say sorry for their jihadis. Not that the pope owes them anything.

The pope probably will give them one anyhow. If he isn't too frail.

American Infidel:

"As for the rest & your obvious hatred of Christians, I am not going to touch that with a ten foot pole..."

So if a Jew doesn't kiss the ass of Christian history he obviously "hates Christians"?

You are *at least* as "obviously" antisemitic as I am anti-Christian. I'll touch that without a any pole.

France should apologize to southern France, the Jews, and the Orthodox Church. Then we can call it a day. Pope Innocent III should be dug up and burned, a custom which grew up under his orders and which he permitted to continue.

152 American Infidel

One must not forget the Zoroastrains in any apology. They were persecuted and massacred in their land of Iran, and now they are scattered around the world.

So when are muslims going to apologise to the Zoroastrians, the Buddhists for what they did in Afghanistan - hardly a stupa is left in Afghanistan and the last trace of Buddhism was destroyed by the Taleban. Apologies are also required by the Hindus.

And let us not forget the tragedy of the slavs under Turkish muslim rule slavery (i.e., harem slavery for women, and the devshirme child levy for Balkan Christian males), abductions, deportations, and massacres. The Turks also massacred over 200,000 Christian Armenians, following it up with a 20th century genocide, when they slaughtered an additional 600,000 to 800,000 Armenians.

I can see that there are too many apologies that islam has to tender to humanity. Therefore, I for one will be happy with just a single apology - an apology on behalf of muhammed to mankind.

I want an apology (and reparations) from Al Gore for trying to subvert our electoral process in 2000. He can include an apology for being a incompetant weenie too.

Wonderful.
The lord of the rings turns his red eye and everybody starts arguing with everybody else.

Excellent way to survive the war against the West declared by islam.

Sod off, Mohammed. We are not not sorry.

The Crusades were expeditions undertaken, in fulfilment of a solemn vow, to deliver the Holy Places from Mohammedan tyranny. I'm not sorry at all about that, because it was a good idea.

Going forward, it remains a good idea.

Moishe,

you are acting the fool, trying to derail and MOBY-ing.

I want a apology from the Marx, for all the evil he invented.

OT

The Bill to expand habeas corpus to SAVE TERRI has PASSED the US SENATE! It now goes back to the House to fix the language (has to match) Then Pres Bush signs it and it is LAW!

267 eeevil

HOOORAY!

Congratulations!

#267 eeevil conservative

Great news! Good job Sherri!

We are definitely winning the war if this is the best this guy can do is demand an apology for events hundreds of years past.

We really must be a burr under his saddle for this kind of drool to run out of his mouth.

Congratulations eeevil! This is a tremendous victory.

Remember this?

Egyptian Jurists to Sue 'The Jews' for Compensation for 'Trillions' of Tons of Gold Allegedly Stolen During Exodus from Egypt

These folks really are pathetic. We want the money, and an apology! Waaahhh.

Personally, I have issued an apology to all Neanderthals for the damage done by my Cro-Magnon ancestors. I also apologize to Australopithicus for the ravages of Homo Habilis, from whom I am descended. I also would like to apologize to all non-anthropoid lifeforms for the savage invasion of my African ancestors when we colonized every continent and destroyed the environments thereon!

I grovel.

#270 Crimson Fisted

We are definitely winning the war

Sure.
No muslim immigrants come here, no mosques are being built, Europe is not going to be Eurabia in 10 to 25, Iran has no nukes and Israel lives at peace.
We are winning big.

In 50 it will be Amerabia. But hey, Bush is great !

#252 GrassyKnoll_1963

The US had nothing to do with the Crusades

There you guys go again with temporal causality, the second law of thermodynamics, logic, and all of that other no-fun unimaginitive stuff. Get with the program.

/Philosophy sophomore

I'd kinda like an apology from Pitt, Iowa, and UTEP, right about now. But if you're an alumnus of the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, you have my gratitude.

I want an apology for the Moslems on behalf of the millions of innocent people they enslaved.

"Moslems from the Middle East have enslaved and sold into North African slave markets no less than one million Black Africans every 100 years, for the past 1,000 years" - David Brian Davis, "Slavery And Human Progress"

That's ten million apologies they owe right there.

Plus, approximately a million European Christians were enslaved by Muslims between 1530 and 1780. The source for that is "Christian Slaves, Muslim Masters: White Slavery in the Mediterranean, the Barbary Coast, and Italy, 1500-1800," by Professor Robert Davis of Ohio State University. Davis wrote that "Enslavement was a very real possibility for anyone who traveled in the Mediterranean, or who lived along the shores in places like Italy, France, Spain and Portugal, and even as far north as England and Iceland."

That's eleven million apologies for starters.

Then we can get what they owe us over the Moslem expansion, the destruction of the Byzantine Empire, the attacks on Vienna, the invasion of Spain, Tours...oh, the Moslems have SO SO very much to answer for.

And what we really should give them is response to this outrageous request is one last crusade.

I apologize for the Steelers not making it to the Superbowl.

This reminds me of when an Egyptian lawyer decided to sue the entire Jewish people for the articles of gold that the children of Israel took with them when escaping from slavery in Egypt 3400 years ago.

Some lawyers in Israel said that they would sue Egypt for back wages owed to Hebrew slaves for their employment in Egypt for hundreds of years prior to the escape.

The Israeli lawyers told the Egyptian lawyer to collect this back pay from Egypt, take out enough for the value of the gold, and then forward the remaining money on to the Jewish people.

I apologize for not giving a rats a$$ about football.

WOOO HOOO! WHAT GREAT NEWS!

I think I am going to go out for Mexican and have a Marquarita!

Are we going to pro-actively apologize for the destruction of the environment in ANWAR? If so, are the bears going to reto-actively apologize for crapping in the woods? This could get fun.

#266 underground  3/17/2005 03:17PM PST
 
"Moishe,

you are acting the fool, trying to derail and MOBY-ing."

Sorry to derail your fond memories of the Crusades.

I don't know what "MOBY-ing" is, but I'm guessing "MOBY" is some sort of "liberal" who said something stupid. Therefore any reference to the subject he spoke foolishly on is automatically disqualified from honest debate.

Sorry, I'll wise-up. The Crusades were AWESOME (dude).

Jews for the Crusades!

280 Sarah D.

Apology accepted.

#264 Poitiers-Lepanto

Wonderful.
The lord of the rings turns his red eye and everybody starts arguing with everybody else.

Very much like the phenomenon which turned all the Crusades into failure or bloodbaths eventually. Muslims play divide and conquer. They know the only high point in Islamic culture is when the West was at its nadir. No better way to start a fight than bring up the Crusades.

The Fourth Crusade sacked Constantinople and never quite made it to Jerusalem.

The Albigensian Crusade destroyed the Cathars and laid the intellectual and mechanical foundation for the Inquisition.

All the Crusades caused the Jews to scatter or be killed. The Albigensian Crusade is where the French* began requiring Jews to wear identification.

I'd like to remind everyone that, supposedly, we've moved past theocratic wars here in the West.

*The French were the driving force in all the Crusades. This helps explain why they were so poorly executed.

I too demand an apology from the Pope - for not finishing the job.

THANKS TO ALL OF YOU THAT HELPED!

YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THIS MEANS TO TERRI'S FAMILY!

I am SOOO CRYING!

HAPPY TEARS!

i'll apologize in advance of the west muking necca and destroying that rock idol that muslims worship.

/uncrosses fingers

I demand an apology from Freud. I had to study the old fart damn near every year of my undergrad degree. I didn't have to study him in grad school, but I had to endure a boring classmate who referred to him for everything. I swear she probably read to see what he said about wiping back to front or front to back. I demand an apology from that loquacious twit as well.