I've already taken a screen shot of it in case it disappears!

Reuters probably just got the heads up from their terrorist allies early this time. Don't worry they will get it right next time. I am sure that they will remember to give the story after it happens after this to avoid confusion.

Check this out: doing a Google News search for "Joey Harel", one of the witnesses, results in ONE hit. If this was a major story, there'd be hundreds of hits.

Stranger and stranger.

photo caption reads:

Friday April 15, 05:21 AM

Rescue workers attempt to pry open a vehicle after twin suicide car bombers struck in Baghdad April 14, 2005. REUTERS/Ali Jasim

Could this be the next step in journalistic evolution? First, photographers show up for the story, now a wire service writes it up before hand?

Somebody is trying for next year's Pulitzer...

But when you're setting up the story, you've got to make sure to get the damn day right.

So, not quite up to Pulitzer standards. Thanks for playing and try again.

This story just hit Google News's front page a minute or so ago. But still just that one Reuters story!

What the hell?

The story is for an event that happened on September 1, 2004:

[Link: tvnz.co.nz...]

My heart just sank. What is this about? Do you think it's connected to the terrorist the IDF killed who was planning on doing a suicide bomb? I feel sick. I'm going to make tea.

Maybe it didn't happen at all. Maybe it's all a vast Zionist conspiracy!

hmm...Al Rueters getting the story in place before the event happens?

August 31, 2004:

Two explosions took place within minutes of each other on two Beersheba city buses, on route nos. 6 and 12, shortly before 3:00 P.M. on Tuesday afternoon. The buses were traveling along Beersheba's main street, Rager Blvd, near the city hall. Sixteen people were killed and 100 wounded.

Israel Radio reported that one bus was in flames, while windows were blown out of the second vehicle. Both buses had just left the city's central bus station. Most of the passengers on the second bus, no. 12, fled the bus before the bomb exploded on hearing the first explosion.

The bombings were carried out by two suicide bombers. Hamas in Hebron claimed responsibility for the attacks.

Prime Minister Ariel Sharon said in response to the attack: “Today’s acts of terror in Be’er Sheva were very serious. On behalf of the Government, I would like to convey condolences to the families and our best wishes for a quick recovery to the wounded.
This afternoon, I held talks with Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz and IDF Chief-of-Staff Lt.-Gen. Moshe Yaalon on the continuation of activity and on methods in the war against terror. I am going to continue talks on these issues.
We will fight such Palestinian terror with all our forces."

Double bombing of buses in Beersheba

zombie, searching "Beersheba" also turns up nothing. It being Reuters, I'm reminded of this.

Very, very strange.

Zombie -

If you Google News search on the writer (Steven Scheer) you don't get much depth - 4 stories. Could this be a new guy on the beat who accidentaly filed a pre-researched item? You know, like an obit?

[Link: news.google.com...]

I just missed the news at the top of the hour, but Israel radio is not in terror attack mode (which means that they have constant news and do nothing but report on the terror attack R"L). I think this is a mistake.

Sixteen people killed would R"L (G-d forbid) be a major attack.

Reuters messes up and Google posts it?

Figures.

OK folks, I was just able (with someone's help) to check the news on Lexis-Nexis, which is MUCH more comprehensive than Google News. Results? NOTHING.

For two different reasons, I want this to be a fake story:

1. So that there are no victims in Israel.
2. So that we caught the MSM in another lie.

If it turns out to be true, it will be a sad day indeed in Israel.

Yeah, maybe Reuters did it!

How on Earth could they post a story from August 31, 2004 as if it happened today?

This is one of the biggest screwups I've ever seen in the MSM.

I live here in Hebron and I haven't heard word one about this supposed attack. I do believe that Reuters did expect the attack to occur since they were probably informed by their terrorist allies that it would take place, but Israeli security forces thwarted the assault. Maybe this is what the senior management at Reuters was referring to when it released a memo criticizing their own news organization a couple of days ago.

this is really weird, really weird.

#8 Bob24 the sptry you just posted, seems identical to the above story.

#8 Bob24:

You nailed it! I thought Beersheba was familiar in relation to suicide bombings. It happened last year!

not his first Reuters correction...Here's another

#12 rightasrain -

excellent find.

Bet this is a pre-written story in anticipation of a suicide bombing. the writer appears to be new and may have been instructed to pre-write a story with all of the context using the facts of a previous incident. When the suicide bombing does take place, they just replace the facts and run the context, pre-approved by the editor.

Next question - has Reuters been tipped?

Reuters needs to send out another internal memo that gets leaked to the world saying, "DAMN, WE SUCK!"

Bob24, well out! What the hell is going on? Reuters must be destroyed.

steven.scheer@reuters.com

He'll be hearing from me shortly.

WND: Reuters admits ‘terrible quality’...E-mail from managing editor sparks anger among reporters...

Next question - has Reuters been tipped?

That was my immediate thought too. This story is from 2004.

What the hell?

This is terrible.

#24 karmic_inquisitor :

I think you've got it exactly right. A reporter was working up a story in anticipation of an upcoming attack, accidentally hit "post," upstream editors thought it was real, ran with it. Now it's on Google News and worldwide. More sweets in Gaza being handed out!

Meanwhile, over at Hamas headquarters, Abdul is on the phone: "What do you mean it wasn't you? It sure as hell wasn't us. Did you talk to Hezbollah? What'd they say? Not them? Then who did it, Allah damn it?!?"

Here's a reference at CAMERA to the Aug '04 story w/ the same reporter.

Folks - rightasrain has found the story. It has been rewritten for todays post-arafat political situation. Reuters is getting ready to run a suicide bombing/end of truce story.

The question is "why?" Is it standard procedure to cover such a contingency, or DO THEY KNOW SOMETHING.

Remember how the photo Pulitzers were won this year.

If I were an Israeli, I wouldn't take the bus today.

19 rightasrain This is one of the biggest screwups I've ever seen in the MSM.

"The news report was accurate, even if fake..."

/asshat

All the news that's fit to fabricate?

Why do these guys add in comments like "...and threatening to disrupt an Israeli plan to pull out of Gaza." That's not news, that's editorial.

You know the savage the IDF killed yesterday? The report said that he was planning a suicide bombing. I guess old Steve-o didn't get the memo that he'd been offed before he could complete his "project". The media or terrorists -- I'm not sure who I hate more.

Reuter's new slogan:

"Our news lacks insight and is of terrible quality"

Our news lacks insight, says Reuters boss

al-Reuters guy sitting at his desk surfing the net...

"Do-de-do-de-do-de-do...I hate this job. Uh oh, here comes the boss. Gotta look busy. I'll grab something from the internet and put it in submission screen to make it look like I'm working."

"How you doing? Oh, I see you have a story. Well, submit it."

"Uh, ok." [Makes note to self to remove it when the boss walks away.]

---

Drunk at a bar later...

"I did remember to take that story off, didn't I? Oh, who cares. We suck and everyone knows it, so what does it matter."

Stunned journalists at Reuters have read an e-mail from the news provider’s global managing editor saying that their flagship news service “lacks insight” and is part of a wider output problem of ‘terrible quality.’

The memo from David Schlesinger, whose comments were intended for a small group of senior colleagues, leaked to the agency’s 16,000 employees after a technical fault.

Having realised the e-mail was sent to the entire workforce, Schlesinger issued a second e-mail explaining the gaffe and instead asked for views on how content could “reshape itself.”

He told employees that the memo was designed to stimulate discussion among the editor-in-chief’s senior management team, so they could discuss the role of Reuters in 2010.

In an e-mail entitled “the burning platform in content,” Mr Schlesinger stated: “Our news is perceived as not having insight; our data is perceived as having terrible quality.”

Dianna, see Bob24's post #8.

Nothing happened here. Just wishful thinking by al-Reuters - or maybe like those embedded journalists with the terrorists, they prepared reports on something that should have happened but didn't because our great security forces foiled it in time.

"We're in the midst of contract negotiations, why would [Schlesinger] want to be telling the troops at this delicate time that they're all doing a crappy job?"

Er, perhaps because they ARE?

Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmed Qurie, visiting Egypt ...

He's not prime minister and he's not in Egypt.

#35 Max Darkside -

Dead on.

The mask has slipped.

Here we see what the newsroom thinks before the facts have occured.

Notice the "sweets" paragraph - as in "paste celebrations of oppressed here".

This is fascinating but not entirely enlightening - after all, we knew these biases to exist.

Someone take screenshots and save the pages... I doubt this will be around long...

27 zulubaby

oh I already e-mailed him too. I fell for it on the last thread.

#40 zulubaby

Thanks, ran across it. I posted based on the front page - I should have read the thread before I said anything.

Gah, what a dreadful thing to do, by Reuters.

kinda reminds me of 1993 while watching a cheers rerun they cut into it reporting on us strikes on bahgdad apparantly it was a screwup they hadnt shown the episode since the beginning of desert storm and somehow the news alert was on the tape.

I'm thinking...maybe...they missed April Fools by 14 days, perhaps...sorta?

Never assume a plot when sheer incompetency will do. Al-reuters apparently has plenty of the latter.

JAFLW

The CAMERA quote at the link in my #32 is from the same article:

They showed that Hamas was not a spent force, even after repeated Israeli assassinations of its leaders and the building of a West Bank barrier.

Definitely an old item. Nice job, Reuters! We expect reruns frrom CBS...

A quote from Reuter's story:

Earlier in the day, Sharon had set out a timetable for steps toward pulling 8,000 Jewish settlers out of Gaza. He said a draft bill establishing rules for compensating uprooted Jewish settlers would be put to his cabinet by September 26.

Geeesh.

Reuters screw up, sure. I think they created a hybrid news story - one from a bombing in Baghdad yesterday, and one in Beersheva last year. One can see how the city names both starting with a 'B' can create some confusion on the part of our fact checking fiends.

A reporter was probably searching Reuters' network/shared news stories to make his Baghdad bombing story more full, and without looking or reading what he/she inserted, gave all of us lizardoinds a slight myocardial infarction.

#44 karmic_inquisitor
after all, we knew these biases to exist.

Yes, "we" do... now the REST of the world gets to see it too - Eh, Dan?

/seeBS career

#29 zulubaby

" Next question - has Reuters been tipped?

That was my immediate thought too. This story is from 2004."

This guy Scheer doesn't seem to have many stories - at least not via a search on Google News. If there was a tip, it went to Sheer's editor. Smells rotten to me.

#31 zombie
"Meanwhile, over at Hamas headquarters, Abdul is on the phone: "What do you mean it wasn't you? It sure as hell wasn't us. Did you talk to Hezbollah? What'd they say? Not them? Then who did it, Allah damn it?!?"

That or "Call over to the PA and have someone check the Red Binder!"

Could the idiot "reporter" have confused Iraq with Israel?

When you click the photo in the story, it says:

Friday April 15, 05:21 AM

Rescue workers attempt to pry open a vehicle after twin suicide car bombers struck in Baghdad April 14, 2005. REUTERS/Ali Jasim

[Link: uk.news.yahoo.com...]

And another story, from Iraq, mentions twin bombings:

IRAQ: DOUBLE SUICIDE BOMBING IN BAGHDAD

Baghdad, 14 April (AKI) - At least 11 people are reported dead and 20 injured after a double suicide car bombing on Thursday morning, in a busy road that runs past the interior ministry. The cars exploded simultaneously as a police convoy of seven vehicles were passing, near a checkpoint at the start of the heavily protected 'Green Zone'. Witnesses say the dead are mostly children and police officers.

[Link: www.adnki.com...]

Actually, this seems to be an urgent matter. I think that al-Reuters let one slip.

Anyone with any contacts in the Israeli police or among the security forces in the Southern Command or in the Beersheva municipality should be alerted that a prepared report anticipates an attack today, Friday, when pre-Shabbat, pre-Passover shopping is at its height. There will be a lot of families out shopping today - and a lot of kids on the streets.

#55 William

You've probably got it right. They ran an old story in confusion about a double suicide bombing that happened in Iraq today.

Idiots!

They call themselves a news organization?

The main support for #52 above is the caption in the photo attached to the story - double suicide bombing in Baghdad.

Note to the MSM: Never try to fool LGF with a bogus bus story. Charles is a self-proclaimed bus story afficianado and the rest of us are search-engine freaks.

#56 Ashan

Let's not borrow trouble. The police have probably seen this already, and will check their sources.

The sick thing would be, not confusion on Reuter's part, but some reporter's idea of a practical joke.

Wow.

No, let me rephrase:

WOW!

Reuters' chief Gaza correspondent conversation with Hamas leader:

What the hell do you mean, you haven't killed the Jews yet?!? We provide the publicity, we provide the photos, we provide the editorials-as-news. All you have to provide is some pre-teen with a couple of kilos of semtex! We're supposed to be working together here!

UPDATE

And now it’s being featured on Google News.

Well, YEAH, Charles - Reuters is, of course, an approved Google News "source" ...

More hats, anyone?

Anyone?

/crickets (except for Google)

#60 Charles

I don't see anything new in this - Sharon was working on plans for disengagement last August and September.

What in particular do you see that might be new?

Now Swissinfo has picked it up from Reuters and is running with it:
[Link: www.swissinfo.org...]

61 Dianna

No way. Better safe than sorry. "Al Aksa" terror group announced that they would retaliate big time for the IDF killing one of their thugs who was shooting at them.

Ooops, I just goofed in #63. :-)

A story like this could make a man rich-if he picked the right stocks and markets.

rightasrain: maybe not -- still checking...

I should clarify that. Charles really likes Bus Plunge stories.

Check it out:

New zombietime Web page with screenshots of the Reuters story on their own site, and on Google News.

To preserve it for posterity, in case they try to erase their blunder.

Charles, if you want, feel free to take either image.

60 Charles
Crap, you're right. It's like they wrote the whole story from scratch from incorrect information of a bombing occurring in Israel.
My thoughts are that the newswire said "double suicide bombing in Baghdad", and the editor said to the lackey writer, "double suicide bombing in Beersheva! Write up a story - Quick! We must be the first to publish!"

#26 Zulubaby

Reuters must be destroyed

I nominate this for rotating titles.

the dead are mostly children and police officers

Nice. Rest in feace, all...

(hat over heart, for procession)

ROPMA!

Hey, I didn't know that NODROG was an al Reuters stringer -- distinguished by his unwitting support of antisemitism.

Thankyou, JWR

I don't see anything new either. Also, 8/31/04 was a Tuesday. The piece is quoted exactly at CAMERA. It also references protests, celebrations and reactions from both the PA and Sharon.

This is the old story.

Charles,

These appear identical:

[Link: tvnz.co.nz...]

[Link: uk.news.yahoo.com...]

#71 Yishai

No, it isn't from scratch.

They have Sharon having a meeting about Gaza compensation on Sept 26 (which is MONTHS after the settlers would be evacuated.)

They've been meeting and voting on this stuff in the Knesset for many months now.

Cool, they just proved the memo right.

OT

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Save Toby

Unfortunately, on June 30th, 2005, Toby will die.

Please help , pray or pull out you lucky rabbits foot. What ever it takes.

#77 PDM

Good going, PDM!

You're right - it's the exact same story!

#36 zulubaby
You know the savage the IDF killed yesterday? The report said that he was planning a suicide bombing. I guess old Steve-o didn't get the memo that he'd been offed before he could complete his "project"

VERY interesting notion, zulu. I think you may have figured it out.

Mahmoud Abbas: "Put me through to Ariel Sharon"

Ariel Sharon: "Abu Mazen, Whassuuup?"

Mahmoud: "I just wanted to state the Palestinian Authority's outrage at the latest terrorist attack on those two buses"

Ariel Sharon: "Huh? What attack?"

Mahmoud: "Err... Hang on a second"

[silence]

Mahmoud to his assistant: "Didn't I tell you not to tell the press until after you had done it?"

Assistant: "Did you forget to adjust your clock for daylight saving?"

[silence]

Mahmoud: "Ummm... Ariel, never mind... Peace be with you."

How to shave without using a mirror

#80

The proprietor of that site is a sick twitch.

Yep, it's the old story, all right.

oby is in a hairy position and needs your help. Please consider helping to save Toby. You can find how you as a concerened citizen can help save Toby.

Dipshit.

mich-again (#46)

Good. I'm trying to wake up so that I can send an e-mail too. Idiots.

karmic_inquisitor (#54)

Totally rotten. I think that Reuters are anticipating violence because the savages are chanting and handing out leaflets. In fact, Reuters are salivating at the thought. This is totally unacceptable. Big media has really gone to hell.

73 (Me)
PEACE Dammit...

PIMF too...

and a good indication that I've had enough.
'Nite, all... ((-'pb

#55 William 4/14/2005 10:27PM PDT

Could the idiot "reporter" have confused Iraq with Israel?

Yep. And this is proof positive that Reuters articles are prefab, templated crap.

What does it take for a wire service to die?

80 xmangels and 84 jimmytheclaw

dumb and dumber.

#69 mich-again

Remind me not to get on busses while I'm in Hong Kong... (not that I can avoid it.)

[Link: www.inq7.net...]

#83 Self Hating Muslim 4

Very good.

See what's happened in the last half hour here on LGF? Read this thread (and the previous thread, where the story broke). This is EXACTLY what the MSM is afraid of. We're all over this whole story like hyenas on an injured springbok. An ugly scene, let me tell you. And I'm proud to be a part of it.

They can't get away with their bullshit anymore. And they're scared.

Oh, speaking of daylight savings - does anyone else remember a story about a bomb going off inside a terrorist's car somewhere in the Arab area of Samaria because of the confusion between standard time and daylight savings time?

The bomb-maker set the bomb to go off at a certain hour in daylight savings time, but the driver didn't want to be a slave to Israel by letting them tell him what time it was.

So he kept his clock on standard time.

He arranged to deliver the bomb later than when he should have, so it blew up while he was enroute.

I laughed almost til I cried over that one (except it was sad that some other Arabs nearby were hurt when it blew in their area.)

It happened three years ago, I think.

steven scheer meeting with his sources

#74 Rayra 4/14/2005 10:38PM PDT

They looked like looters to me

#70 zombie

It's nice to see that the World Socialist Web Site is a news source.

I wonder if they broke the "Reuters reports old news as new" story.

A story to prove Sharon is vacating Gaza under fire by Hamas?

78 rightasrain

I think you're Right as Rain. I think what we have here is a classic case of "There's nothing new under the sun". The streets don't change but maybe the names. Facts that were true back then really seem true now. Except forensic study like looking at the dates and the like, show that this is probably an old story brought to bear by the suicide bombings yesterday in Baghdad.

And we're supposed to believe things that come out of this 'news' organization when they make such basic screwups like this?

I thought we'd established it was an old story by Bob24's #8. My brother figured it out in 10 seconds flat, as soon as I mentioned Beersheba and 16 people ...

#69 mich-again

And here's the picture:

[Link: www.disaster-management.net...]

Frankly, I'm surprised anyone survived.

How do you know he didn't submit this story before the next attempt?
Al Reuters is very well known for their infamous association with terrorists.

Yeah, I posted the original story in another topic at 9:58pm, too, where it first came up.

My first post of the August 31, 2004 story...

BTW, regardless of the veracity of the story, I stand by my original comments upon seeing the article.

Charles, have you seen hm 92? Now there is one for the scrapbook for sure.

96 jimmytheclaw. LOL! What was the number of the agent on "Get Smart" that hid in garbage cans? Its him!

I have to go read Reuters ... I hear rumors that the Confederacy might be plotting to attack Fort Sumter any day now.

#105 Rayra

Thanks! Great story, isn't it?

I must have heard this one three years ago, I guess.

zombie (#82)

We know that the "journalists" are really the terrorists' bi-otches so in my opinion Steve-o was preparing his "news" release and posted it in error.

I myself find the site creative and well thought out. Then again I eat animal parts most everyday and doubt that the creator of that site will do as much to that pet rabbit.

What I do not partake in is (#91, and #87) calling names. That is rude.

Do you not find the site funny?

#96 jimmytheclaw

LOL.

Pity none of these "news" outlets can afford editors these days.

I noticed that, that swissinfo picked on that story.

You know what ? I went to the Reuters website and they do not mention that bus explosion !

My Yahoo News does not list it as top stories anywhere and not even Reuters...

Really ODD !

zombie, good job on the screenshots, thanks for that.

Meanwhile, the story is still up on Reuters-UK.

Dumb sheeets.

Reuters is reporting this as Baghdad.

The article's link is through Yahoo.

Somebody screwed up, that's for sure.

#111

I'm off to bed.

Before I do: I have not called you, personally, a name. I do not find that site even vaguely funny.

Goodnight.

111 XMangels

Sorry. I think it is very funny. In fact, I'm thinking of doing the same thing with a box of Kraft macaroni and cheese. Heck, if the bunny guy can get $25,000+, I ought to be able to fetch at least $10.

Now, back to bus+plunge hotline!

Here's something scary for you to consider.

How many new stories did we hear on the radio, see broadcast on television and read in dead tree publications that were of the same kind of quality we're looking at right now?
We had no way of refuting these people.

Mebbe we should thank al Bore for inventing the internut!

#116 Anabel

They're sure to blame it on "algorithmns".

#117 Dianna

Good night and sweet dreams, if you look at what I posted, I did not include you in my post #111.

Perhaps you had a guilty conscience.

this is what those Palis' were rehearsing for in the photo op in Monday's LGF

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

this is a forecast - not news

this will happen NEXT Tuesday
remember the MSM is embedded with the terrorists

only in canada

111 XMangels

Sorry, but this whole "poor bunny" crap hits my hot button. I've had a couple run-ins with PETA pukes, and narrowly resisted becoming a candidate for an assault charge.

I overlooked the possibility that you were speaking in jest. Apologies.

Rabbits are food. End of argument.

NY Times
CBS
AP
Reuters
...next!

#119 quark2

I've been thinking the same thing for awhile now too. How many stories have we been told in the past by tthe likes of the AP, AFP, and UPI, and Reuters that are lies?

maybe they got the story from google news latest sattelite office

#125 Rayra

"Terrorist work-accident": Reminds me of that VW ad.

Btw, does anyone know what became of the law suit that VW started against the makers of the ad, re: the mutual exclusiveness of Germans and Humor?

#129 jimmytheclaw

LOL.

My favorite, yet. Fantastic.

The story is still up on Reuters-UK.

shilus #126

Had I used a sarcasim / off, it would have spoiled the site. I did include hairy and rabbits foot. Glad we agree about PETA.

Anything that rubs them raw excites me.

American enginuity at its best.

#126 Sihlus

The guy running that site is just taking advantage of a simple truth: A fool and his money are soon parted.

127 zombie

How True!

Anyone else notice the DaVinci stuff on Google? I didn't know he was born on Tax-Day? How come that little detail didn't make it into the book? Must be a conspiracy theory there somewhere..

Re: "Terrorist work-accident"

link

Ah...the editors of al Rueters will wake up with rotten egg all over their faces.

Re: VW ad. Seems like the legal case is pending.

Volkswagen is to take legal action against the mystery duo who made the controversial suicide bomber short film that apparently shows an Arab blowing himself up in a Polo car.

After a week of prevarication, the car giant has decided to go ahead and sue the people behind the advert on the grounds that it was damaging its reputation around the world and falsely linked the VW with terrorism.

Boeing on the other hand...

Idiots.

[Link: media.guardian.co.uk...]

talk about pissing off the cops

Perhaps Reuters has gone on vacation, and is rerunning "The Best of Reuters" while they're sipping at the wine-tasting bars of all the popular French wineries...

#134 Powderfinger

The guy running that site is just taking advantage of a simple truth: A fool and his money are soon parted

Yep.

Flip side of that is P.T. Barnum's old saying, "Find his price - he'll geek."

@128 Pamela

How big of a crew do you think it would take and how many lifetimes to investigate and vet every piece of just national and international news fed to the public?

Dang that's just scary.

#134 Powderfinger

Too true. (Howbout some "regulation", so that these idiots can be protected from themselves. NOT)

#126 Sihlus

Mmmhhh, yummy.

140 Rayra

Perhaps, if you are going to spend 4 of your 8 posts in six months on a hostage bunny, you should go.

Ouch! That's gonna leave a mark!

sorry bout all the OT's but can someone name this politician

[Link: www.skoopy.com...]

#140 Rayra

There you go again.

OK, I updated my screenshot Web page with a fresh caption, and I cropped off the part of the screenshot that revealed what my toolbar bookmarks are! I just hope nobody took a screenshot of my screenshot!

#147 jimmytheclaw

Well, they guy with his back facing towards the camera is John Howard, so I'd hazard a guess your man is an Australian MP.

Rayra #137

Well I hope I did not offend thee stranger.

Was it that some college students have come up with a way to make a few bucks?

Was it that the PETA folks are so mad they shut down paypal for the site?

Or was it the death threats the students have recieved from the PETA folks?

Could have been a woman saying she was going to abort a 'fetus' if she wasn't paid.

Could have been Mr. Shivo (sp) having such a site.

Could be a terrorist, or the Catholic Church auctioning off the Pappalship. But it wasn't.

No it is a prank, pointing out our lack of priorities.

I applaud them and their 'SouthPark' wit.

Reading, reading, skipping ahead to post. Ok, posting,
reading again...

I like to read them all. Thank you Charles.

Look who is #1 on the images. (lgf)

[Link: images.google.com...]

Iraq rhymes with Chirac.
Iran rhymes with (MOAB)am.

I think it's a glitch. Probably the Beersheba attack was filed under "twin bombing" and the new Baghdad attack as well. Probably no bad faith involved.

Just the same sloppiness the media often blames the bloggers with

lol nice protestor [Link: www.skoopy.com...]

#151 XMangels

For what it's worth, I appreciated the link and I couldn't care less how many times you've posted.

Ok, folks, good night, my extended lunch break is coming to an end. Later.

#153 True German Ally

But, but, what sloppiness?

It was the algorithm's fault!

This is just the kind of false news, bias, bigoted bullshit I need with a kid in Israel right now. Thanks, al rooster, you're really trustworthy. Thanks for giving me another sleepless night and the rot I feel in my gut right now.

goddamn their rotten slimey eyes. al rooster needs to be called on the carpet for this one, it's one too many in a long line of such journalistic glurge. Anybody got an email addy for al-rooster that will make some waves if one should contact them? Who do you report this kind of cruelty too?

Rayra #140

Perhaps, if you are going to spend 4 of your 8 posts in six months on a hostage bunny, you should go.

Perhaps, but I just got confy and you want me to hop away.

You some kind of hip, hop artist?

#144 quark2
It would be impossible, and the MSM is banking on that.

Google just takes what it is served, they don't check their sources.

I believe that somebody at Reuters filed a report about the Baghdad bombing and the "twin bombing" served up the old Beersheba bombing when the story was submitted. Database glitch? The article is identical with the one published last year.

Stephen Scheer (googling him) obviously works in the Jerusalem bureau of Reuters. He might not even be the one responsible for this mess as he probably didn't write the Baghdad article.

I'm sure they'll find an intern to fire at Reuters :-)

What is pathetic though is that the thing is still up on Swissinfo. You'd expect Reuters to correct the glitch in a minute. And it's 9am in Europe so they should reach someone in Switzerland?

160 True German Ally

Except the article goes on to discuss current events, such as the disengagement, etc.

#162 Kragar

Except the article goes on to discuss current events, such as the disengagement, etc.

The disengagement was a current event last August-September, too.

What it says about disengagement is from that time period, not now.

G'night, children, the old man's packin' it in.

On Tuesday I took the bus from Beer Sheva to Rehovot leaving BS about 1:30 PM. At the risk of appearing an unnecessary 'eye-witness' to nothing everything seemed OK to me apart from the heat.

Check out Providing a Platform for Propaganda on Camera.org

Has Charles asked Steven Scheer steven.scheer@reuters.com for a comment?

Another thought,
Did anyone think it very odd that a major story from Tuesday only appears on Friday?

Twin suicide bombings on Israeli buses kill 16

By Steven Scheer

BEERSHEBA, Israel (Reuters) - Palestinian suicide bombers killed at least 16 people in simultaneous attacks on two Israeli buses on Tuesday, breaking a long lull in suchviolence and threatening to disrupt an Israeli plan to pull out of Gaza.

[Link: www.swissinfo.org...]
---

Baghdad Bombs Kill 15 in Surge of Violence

By Mussab al-Khairalla

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Twin suicide car bombs killed at least15 people during the morning rush hour in central Baghdad onThursday, cutting short what had appeared to be a lull inviolence since elections in January.

[Link: www.swissinfo.org...]

Ahhh, a rare insight into copy & paste journalism... explains a lot. The first Swissinfo article is no longer linked from their main page but they forgot to pull the physical article linked from Google News.

163 rightasrain

True. I was confusing it with another article I had read.

#166 deegee

Yes, at first - but we found the real story from Aug 31st about two hours ago, so we knew how badly Reuters had goofed up.

ATTENTION AL-REUTERS!

You are hereby on notice that LGF is fact checking your ass!

Get your stories right from now on!

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This thing is freaking me the hell out:

an arboreal nocturnal lemur

#171 Kragar

It's what LLLs really look like.

"Moonbat" is just a snappier word. :)

Ya know, yawn, all those bombing, uhhh, dead people, stuff, blood, violence... can't be bothered to write up something NEW everytime. Let's just bring up other articles and copy that boring stoff...

Coffee anyone?

Maybe they should start a savereuters.com site, see who raises more.

#171 Kragar

Have you EVER seen a better picture of a troll? :-)

Al Rooters is going to have to a quick shuffle dance in explaining this one. How many eggs to they want?
Another good example of their complicity and dishonesty.
And this base of such reprehensible behaviour didn't start just last night. I suggest they've been pulling the wool over the reading publics eyes for a very long time.
So ..time for them to reap the whirlwind.

I'm like Sihlus, and calling it a night.

I expect there to be much fireworks tomorrow. Y'all are
awesome. :)

#175 True German Ally

Could it be...

Octopus?

#171

What do you get when you cross breed a bat, rat, Tinker Bell (Paris' dog) and Hillary?

I said it before, I'll say it again. Kidnappings should = double down.

thanks for the laughs guys.

I was pissed as hell when I saw, thinking the worst.
Turns out to just be gross incompetence. Kerryesque. And hilarious.

Nite.

#178 XMangels

Maybe you get something like this? :-)

[Link: www.w2000.de...]

the swissinfo article is stll there deep inside the internation section at 3am east coast time

[Link: img2.echo.cx...]

screen capture note 3 am EST top right

#176 quark2

I don't think its proof of complicity. What it really proves is that they have a template or two and their "journalists" just fill in the blanks and randomize the sentence order whenever there's a report, making it up as necessary.

It proves they're frauds, not that they're complicit (which they are as well, but that's another story).

#182 iceman

I have it too. SwissInfo forgot to pull the article, they just removed the links to it but of course Google deeplinks... but DO THEY SLEEP AT GOOGLE NEWS?

1000s of people must see this every minute!

#181 True German Ally

Oh my G..

I can't imagine what that , hmm, artist would do with leggos.

In other Reuters news:

JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Israeli troops killed a Palestinian militant in a raid in a West Bank refugee camp on Thursday, triggering a vow by a leading militant group to retaliate "like an earthquake."

Oh nooo, not that t-word, we can't have that t-word

#176 quark2

By the way I think William hit the nail on the head. Some "reporter" confused Iraq with Israel and fired up his "spit out a suicide bomb in Israel report" program and filled in the blanks with reasonable sounding guesses - if it isn't a computer program it's a mechanical fill-in-the-blanks method that might as well be.

One obvious point is that if all of the details are reasonable sounding lies, then how can the editorializing be valid? It can't. Reuters is a fraud.

But this just proves the sort fraudulence which would be a job requirement for any reporter in Jordan, Egypt, Iran, North Korea etc.. It just shows that Reuters journalistic standards and practices are on par with the average police state - ie LOW. But we already knew that since it's been so damn obvious for years.

you can contact swiss info here

[Link: www.swissinfo.org...]

i sent an email at about 310am EST usa

let's see how long it takes to change

msnbc at 317 reported the major paris fire but did not report this story

#187 Joshua

Look at PDM's entry earlier tonight - the story posted is identical to one posted last August or September.

It's word for word.

They posted a completely written older story.

#186 True German Ally

It's already been leaked that Reuters has a specific policy forbidding use of the word "terrorist".

They don't want to limit their customers to free countries after all. There's money to be made selling yellow journalism to civilizations enemies after all.

Reuters is run by the lowest scum on the planet.

#189 rightasrain

I thought someone posted that the word order was completely different.

#191 Joshua

Some of the titles within the articles are different, but the stories are the same (paragraph by paragraph) otherwise.

Look for yourself in #77.

These are the same articles, except one was posted last year and the other one was posted today.

Hey, MSM, are you learning? You used to be great.

Now you are shit.

192 rightasrain

If it is word for word an old report then it doesn't prove anything except that some wire operator confused an old report for a new one and rereleased it.

Sigh.

Oh well. Reuters is still the lowest quality yellow shit in the free world, whether this proves it or not. That's been obvious for years.

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let the finger pointing begin

[Link: www.swissinfo.org...]

why am i not surprised that this is from reuters and kofi

snip---

April 15, 2005 9:20 AM

UK and US blamed in oil for food scandal

By Evelyn Leopold

UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan said on Thursday the UnitedStates and Britain bore part of the blame in the Iraq oil-for-food debacle by allowing unsupervised oilexports that Saddam Hussein exploited.

#195 iceman

They just repeated it on the BBC.

When do BBC and Al-Reuters merge, eh?

Well I guess we know which side Reuters is on

are there not any editors over there who check things like, Facts?

Murdoch: Newspapers Must Stop Fearing Web

WASHINGTON Media mogul Rupert Murdoch urged newspaper editors to grab on to the digital revolution, stop fearing or ignoring the power of the Web, and do more to serve the young news consumers -- or "digital natives," as he called them -- who are more and more going to the Internet for information.

"We need to realize that the next generation of people have a different set of expectations of the kind of news they will get," Murdoch told a luncheon crowd at the American Society of Newspaper Editors conference on Wednesday, "including when and how they will get it, and who they will get it from."

Citing a list of statistics that show fewer people are reading print newspapers but more are on the Web, Murdoch told the assembled hundreds of editors that online news reporting should be embraced, not feared. Sporting a gray tie, dark suit, and glasses, Murdoch noted that 44% of news consumers between 18 and 34 use the Internet once a day for news, compared to 19% who use a printed newspapers. In the future, he said, 39% expected to use the Internet more, compared to 8% who expected to use newspapers more. He also said only 9% describe newspapers as trustworthy, 8% as useful, and 4 % as entertaining.

I wonder who those 9 people are.

Israel Captures Infiltrator from Syria After Shootout

Israeli military sources identified the lone attacker as a 21-year-old militant from Fatah, the Palestinians' ruling faction, and said the man told his captors he had planned to abduct an Israeli soldier and take him back to Syria.

The gunman, who came from a Palestinian refugee camp in Syria, penetrated a border fence and fired nine rounds into an Israeli army post in an attempt to explode a petrol container, Israeli officials said.

Mark Steyn - Get me rewrite!

You have to read the whole thing but this caught my eye:

Days of hopes turned into days of tears as regular as clockwork. And, as the army learned a day or two ago, when a group of captured "insurgents" turned out to include a CBS cameraman, the notion that the enemy and the media are on the same side isn't always just a rhetorical flourish.

Is there anyone who still believes that the terrorists and journalists are not in bed together?

Morning, all. Bunny flame wars ? This place is like a box of kids' cereal - always a surprise inside.

Human Rights, UN-style

Today and Friday the United Nations Commission on Human Rights will pass resolutions on human rights situations around the world. This body of 53 states will not reproach Iran, Saudi Arabia, China or many other notorious violators of human rights. Genocidal Sudan may get slapped on the wrist. It is certain, though, that Israel will be condemned in five separate resolutions, four more than any other country.

The United States and other democratic members of the commission object to the disproportionate and distorted treatment of the Arab-Israeli conflict, but are out-voted by a coalition that includes Sudan, Saudi Arabia and two of the six "outposts of tyranny," Cuba and Zimbabwe. Like the witches of Macbeth, the majority will declare: "Fair is foul, and foul is fair."

As in years past, the commission's Middle East resolutions will address Palestinian rights and Israeli responsibilities, but neglect Israeli rights and Palestinian responsibilities. Some safe predictions, based on previous resolutions: One of the measures will proclaim the Palestinian right to live without Israeli interference but omit the Israeli right to life. Another will decry the delay of Palestinian school buses at Israeli checkpoints and forget the Israeli children who never arrived at school because their bus was blown up.

Why is this allowed to continue? I'm just sick of it.

Overtures to the deaf

A list of these proposals reached me a few days ago, and makes for depressing reading. No fewer than eight highly specific "economic overtures" have been made to the PA. All have been either ignored or rejected, as follows:

Israel has offered to build a rail link between the West Bank and Gaza, enabling the uninterrupted flow of people and goods between the two areas. The PA has yet to respond to the idea.

Israel has offered to build a rail link from Erez to Ashdod, enabling quick and efficient transfer of Gaza export items to the port of Ashdod for exports to Europe and elsewhere. The PA has yet to respond to the idea.

Israel has offered to coordinate the running of the Erez crossing with the PA in order to facilitate the passage of Palestinians and their merchandise from Gaza to Israel. The PA has yet to respond to the idea.

Israel has offered to discuss with the PA the resumption of the operation of the Erez industrial park, which, prior to the intifada, provided jobs to thousands of Gaza Palestinians and a livelihood to tens of thousands of their family members. The PA has yet to respond to the idea.

Israel has offered to discuss the completion and operation of the Gaza seaport – admittedly a project of little economic benefit to the Palestinians given the minimal distance from Gaza to the very modern Port of Ashdod, but one of great symbolic importance to the Palestinians. The PA has yet to respond to the idea.

Israel has offered to discuss with the PA the admission to Israel on a daily basis of tens of thousands of Palestinian workers from Gaza and the West Bank after the completion of the disengagement. The PA has yet to respond to the idea.

Israel has offered to discuss with the PA the construction of new roads for the use of the Palestinians in the West Bank, where the road infrastructure is antiquated and woefully inadequate. Although Israel has made clear that it would allow the PA to designate the locations and routes of the new roads, the PA has described Israel's offer as a scheme for consolidating its hold over the West Bank and has refused to discuss it.

Israel has offered to coordinate with the PA the economic aspects of the disengagement. Such coordination would ensure that the Palestinians would get the hothouses and other agricultural and industrial assets left behind by the Gaza settlers intact and ready to operate, to the great benefit of the Palestinian economy. The PA has thus far refused to discuss such coordination, thereby endangering the integrity of those assets after the Israeli withdrawal.

The UN's blatently biased treatment of Israel has been going on for a long time.

Sha'i ben-Tekoa (who was the lead commentator on Arutz Sheva for the last two years of his five years on Arutz Sheva, IIRC) was commissioned in the early 1990s by Israel's PM Shamir to do a study on UN resolutions and the results were astonishing.

Here's just a taste:

Security Council:

175 Total Resolutions
74 Neutral
4 Against the perceived interests of an Arab state or body
97 Against Israel

...

1967-89

Frequency:

The Council held 1,517 meetings. Of these 459 (30%) were devoted to the Arab-Israeli conflict.402 resolutions were passed. Of these, 131 (33%) concerned the Arab-Israeli conflict.

Balance or Tilt of U.N. resolutions:

Neutral, Of these 131, 43 (33%) were neutral. Of the remaining 88, all (100%) criticized or opposed the actions, or judged against the interests of Israel. 0 resolutions criticized or opposed the actions, or judged against the perceived interests of an Arab state or body, or the PLO (founded by the Arab League in 1964).

Requests:

The Council "called upon," "demanded," "ordered" etc. Israel to "comply," "desist," "refrain" 83 times. The Council "called upon," "requested" etc. an Arab state 29 times, 65% less. The Council never "demanded," "ordered" etc. the PLO to do or stop doing anything.

Expressions:

The Council expressed its "concern," "grave concern," "deep regrets." "shock" etc. regarding Israel"s actions 28 times. The Council never expressed negative sentiments regarding either any Arab state or the PLO.

Condemnations:

The Council "condemned," "censured," "deplored" Israel 43 times. No Arab state or group was ever condemned.

The U.N.'s Record Vis A Vis Israel - Prior to the Madrid Conference, of '91, the office of Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir commissioned Shai Ben-Tekoa to do a statistical analysis of U.N. voting vis a vis Israel. The following is a summary of Mr. Ben-Tekoa's research.

For those who don't follow such things, LGF is not the only anti-idiotarian outpost, fighting the long twilight war against those who would crush us. The annual Polly Awards are out, and while some cases may be familiar to you, some may not.

Oh man. Thanks a lot, Reuters. I thought I woke up in The Twilight Zone.

I hate when that happens.

O/T:

Is DU down? I know they were having server troubles, which is why they shut down direct access to their archives, and now it doesn't seem to be there at all ...

MATTHEWS: Let me ask you about the news industry itself. And its taken a lot of wrath, because we have such a wide definition of what news is today, with, you know, stuff coming across the cable industry. And it`s coming out of blog sites and stuff that is unedited in a lot of cases, which is my big problem with it. There`s no editors around. What do you make of what we`re doing right now?
STAHL: Well, it`s contributing to the public`s continuing dislike of us and mistrust of us. And we`re all in this bull together.

Good thing those editors are monitoring every move. Whew!@?
(Attention MSM: the operative word is "BULL")

# 210 Jheka

Huh. You appear to be correct - I can't get there either.

#213 Rayra -

Lawrence Kudlow has a rant on Boxer and Biden and their John Bolton attacks - Juvenile Democrats

# 213 Rayra

Not strictly on the same subject, but at least tangentially related. From this AM's Washington Times.

# 217 Rayra

Huh ? I wasn't watching - did the sun rise in the west this morning ? Next thing you know, Al Gore will say he lost the 2000 election.

Of course now we have Kofi reminding everyone, 'not to repeat in Sudan errors of Bosnia, Rwanda, Cambodia.' Please Annan...do tell.

And to keep things on the ‘up-and-up’(probably in more ways than one) we have, ‘envoy Billy-Bob Clinton ensuring pledges are paid up, money wisely spent’ riding herd on the U.N. Tsunami Funding.

Whew! That’s a relief….don't ya'll feel so much better especially with Billy-Bob’s attorney is acting on behalf of the Kofi’s in the Oil-for-Food Scam? For free...even.

Nothing like keeping things all-in-the-family. What do we call this? Turtle-gate?

#217 Rayra 4

IRAQ: It behooves me to write that I'm chastened - and extremely heartened - by the progress we're making in Iraq. The elections were obviously the key - and they should have been scheduled at least a year before they were.

That fucking twit. If they'd been scheduled too soon they wouldn't have been the success they were. We were all afraid they were happening too soon and would be too incomplete as it was. He just has to have a reason to blame the admin.. As long as we're handing out left handed compliments, I guess I can say this post proves that he isn't 100% dishonest.

GREAT BRITAIN: RADICAL PREACHER INCITES MUSLIMS TO ROB BANKS

London - A Jamaican-born militant Islamic preacher has been giving 'jihad' or holy war a new meaning, by reportedly urging impoverished Muslims to take matters into their own hands and wage war on infidel institutions such as banks - by robbing them. "Are you poor? Don't cry about it, but wage jihad, also by holding up banks," London-based Sheikh Abdullah al-Faisal, a well-known supporter of al-Qaeda, urged the faithful in a sermon. A report on the sermon was published by website globalterroralert.com
[Link: www.adnki.com...]

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George Galloway backs Saddams bloody friend

OT:

Caroline Glick is the VDH of Israel

Bush vs. Democracy

#197 Rayra

Didn't think that that particular poster deserved it.

Btw, I'm a damned intercafe in Hong Kong and pretty much everything that I click on, i.e. your link at #220 gets me sent to we-blocker.com.

If I stay here any longer, I'm sure they'll also blacklist LGF...
:-(

Worse than just backing Tariq Aziz,

George Galloway is now petitioning for his release...with some other big name moonbats!

LINK

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The NYT/IHT is at it again.

A certain Laurie Goodstein wrote a column about the Catholic youth being far more conservative than their parents generation -- only to quickly qualify that by saying that they're only "theologically" conservative, not "politcally".

Oh, and btw, Rome is a "bastion of secularism".

[Link: www.iht.com...]

It is the Setpember, 2004 story as Charles pointed out --same witness.

September, 2004: Another witness, Joey Harel, said he stopped his car to see if he could help the victims of the first explosion.

Is Reuters now engaging in trying to instigate retalitory attacks?

Ok, this connection and all this blocking is pissing me off.

Going to get some dinner now. See you all later.

# 225 hm

That's odd. I have never been blocked from anything in Beijing. Wonder if there's a special effort in HK that doesn't extend to the rest of the PRC ?

Palestinian girl hides gun in undies

IDF soldiers searching for a wanted terrorist in West Bank house discover sister hid his gun in her underwear; field agents: may have to renew searches on women

May have to renew? Why would you stop? I'm not too concerned about hurt feelings when people lives are on the line.

Google = leftist.

I just clicked on the link in Charles' post and would you believe that this story is still up? Reuters is pathetic.

Here is the Reuters article definitely with the 2005 date --It's not on the front page of google news anymore this morning but it can still be pulled up by looking for the headline in news.

Twin suicide bombings on Israeli buses kill 16 -
Fri Apr 15, 2005 4:43 AM BST By Steven Scheer
[Link: today.reuters.co.uk...]

#234 American Infidel

Zombie got it.

American Infidel, zombie has a screenshot of it.

OT - Political correctness craze hits Scotland Yard.

This is a piece of self-parody, I tell you.

237 American Infidel
that IS the question.

#240

Calling it a sweeping generalization would be a huge misunderstanding.

And what's this reek in the air, maybe one beginning by r...?

American Infidel, LOL. I had the same thought you did. There was a terrorist killed yesterday who was planning a suicide bombing. It made me very suspicious when I saw this story -- was the reporter preparing his story and posted this one by mistake or what? It's all too weird.

Understatement, not misunderstanding.

I will say this once before ducking and dodging from the various hurled objects:

Reuter-Gate

/wildly dodging incoming fire

Its probably just wishful thinking by Reuters and they are sad there friends have not been able to succeed at such a bus bombing, although lord knows they have tried. Maybe Reuters is trying to inspire a bombing.

Just an off-the-cuff observation, but you know, it's not often that suicide bombers get to make TWO attacks.

250 American Infidel

There are too many gates...

Thats why I was dodging.

Dammit, Reuters! I thought I had a nightmare when I checked israeli newssites this morning, and could not find the "twin suicide bombings" story there. I kid you not.

Taking "fake, but accurate" to the next level... Eat your heart, Dan!

Mike C LOL!

253 American Infidel

I think he meant Reuters

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Murphy poses for troops

HOLLYWOOD beauty Brittany Murphy has agreed to do a sexy photoshoot for Maxim magazine after the editor promised to send 40,000 copies bearing a personal message from the actress to US troops stationed in war-torn Iraq.

# 255

Morning, BabbaZee

# 257 Kragar(PTBK)

I don't think so, but clarification would be nice.

So, a broad-range question: how would you readers classify the statement that Soviets have hatred for America in their genes?

American Infidel (#249)

You can read about it here: Wanted Fatah activist dies in exchange of fire with Border Police in Nablus

The man, Ibrahim Hashash, was wanted for involvement in a series of attempted terror attacks, including one on the Trans-Samaria highway at the end of February that did not result in casualties, according to the Shin Bet security service.

Hashash, a member of the Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades, was also suspected of making preparations of late for deploying a suicide bomber to Jerusalem. He was alleged to have been operating on the directives, and with the financial aid, of Hezbollah.

--

The IDF defined Hashash as "a ticking bomb," who was continuing to prepare terror attacks, despite the cease-fire and the Sharm el-Sheikh understandings between Israel and the Palestinian Authority.

240 Infidel

I think that is an overgeneralization. I know a lot of Russians, my entire family is Russian, and I am married to a Lithuanian. I haven't met ANY of them who hate America. In many ways, America is still a dreamland to them. They aren't so terribly far mentally from the US. It's NOT like the Islamic lunacy.

Disclaimer:
Fabio C is not a troll IMO, Goddess of Spades!

Let us try to play nice today and IGNORE the genuine trolls when they do appear (cause they will)

And let us try to disagree with those who are not trolls in an agreeable manner

I really can take the bile-o-rama around here lately...

~ Love Miss Crabtree.

261 FabioC.

Well, considering the Soviet mentality was an ideaology, and the fact that not all Russians were Soviets, I would have to say it was a pretty piss poor analogy.

Morning. Is it safe to come in ?

My grandparents were all Lithuanian.

Yesterday was hell on wheels for trolls and anger. That afternoon thread-sheesh!

Mornin Mike C

Fabio - Hhar gave me a small genetics class the other day in response to a similar argument that was going on - the ? I asked was in reference to personality traits being inheritable, because in the study of Autism I had heard that they were talking about a "compassion" gene.
I was not "in" that argument but I thought it was a good chance to hear a professional's opinion on that ? - here it is:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

#268 Peacekeeper
I cant take that crap anymore it's like being in High School. I took a nap.

#264 BabbaZee

Indeed, when people start talking about hatred for one thing or the other ingrained in genes of some ethnic group, I really frown, because that's a highway to Hell.

In my #243 I expressed a doubt, and I'm ready to retreat it.

#261

Russia has always been the anti-America. It exists so you can point to it and say, "see this? Don't act like them!"h

My dream has always been to erect a laissez-faire capitalist constitutional republic in Russia, with one little act of tyranny: all men under penalty of death must wear goatees to symbolize Russia's history. Anyone who wonders why the government is limited, could stroke his goatee and go, "oh, I see."

I have Finnish genes and "everybody" (Ok a couple of Norwegions and a Swede) tells me that I am a typical Finn. I also have irish genes but I guess they were too hung over to fight on conception day.

Anyone who wonders why the government is limited, could stroke his goatee and go, "oh, I see."

ROTF!

#271 FabioC.
yup. Eugenics: NOT a good idea!

274 American Infidel

Well, Octo-puss could be lurking around.

Queen of Spades
Sounded like you were about get midevil on Fabio's arse. ;)

Fabio run for your life!

HUH!
my freudian type-o says that I CAN take the bile-o-rama, not that I can't.
Bring it on, Swampus!

LOL!

PK ...was I crucified in absentia?

Lawlessness Part of Abbas' Daily Struggle

NABLUS, West Bank -- Policeman Jouma Ahmad settled the score the way he felt best -- by shooting his enemy nine times, right in the middle of a police station.

Such brazen displays of lawlessness are part of a daily struggle for new Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas, who is under growing U.S. and Israeli pressure to restore order as a prelude to possible peace talks.

Ahmad, who was arrested after shooting and critically wounding a man he said stabbed his brother, said he had no regrets. "If someone beats you, you have to beat him back," he said in his jail in Nablus, one of the West Bank's most chaotic cities where police are trying hard to regain people's trust.

...

Police in Nablus claim they are slowly regaining control of the city, but a jailhouse meeting with 29-year-old Mohammed, imprisoned for collaborating with Israel, attests to a reality in which gunmen still hold sway.

Mohammed, whose full name is not divulged in this story for his protection, said he confessed under torture to aiding an Israeli pilot in a mission to shell a Palestinian police target in 2001.

Standing between two prison guards last week in Nablus, he said he was confident that Fatah gunmen in the area would let him live if he were released, trusting in his innocence.

"Sure, sure. Keep hoping!" one of the guards said. The other added ominously: "He enjoys protection here. If he gets out he'll be killed by the gunmen and he knows it."

# 261 FabioC et al

Ah, there's that clarifaction I wanted. Sorry AI, but I gotta go with FabioC on this one. In fact, a lot of former "Soviets" seem to have more of a hatred these days for Russians than for Americans. And absolutely none of it is genetic in any case. No, AI, the individual you mentioned may very well have a burning hatred for Americans - I don't know. But even if he does, that's him, not each and every former citizen of the Soviet Union.

In any case, even a basic disagreement is not much excuse for starting off the day with those cute little suggestions for the opposition to commit anatomical improbabilities. Doesn't exactly raise the tone of the debate.

I wonder how you would go about crucifying a lizard.

What would a lizard Spartacus look like?

One thing I must say in relation to the heritable nature of personality traits is that I have a sister who has not seen or spoken to our mother in 30 years (I am @15)
Yet...she is EXACTLY like her.
It is frightening.

#283 pookleblinky

I am Lizardicus!