Honor killing expert? Sounds like the mob.

I'm glad to see that unlimited immigration policy is working out so well for europe

The court has also ordered that the accused man from Culemborg be examined in the Pieter Baan psychiatric centre in Utrecht to find out if his cultural background played a role in the crime. An expert in ?honour? killings will also testify at a later hearing.

They dont need shrinks and experts to combat this. They need Holy Men of Excorcism and Heavy Blunt Weapons!

treating a religious war as a criminal problem is insane.

In light of this, and of the many other atrocities that have occured in the region of the Netherlands and surrounding countries HOW can anyone in those countries doubt the barbarity and backward-thinking of Islam?

Yes, for fuck sake, it was in his cultural background. That's the evil part of it. Jeeezzz.

During a pre-trial hearing, the presiding judge indicated the court wanted to question the victim’s foster mother and aunt to establish >if the killing was ordered by her family in Iraq.

Gotta' have some fuel for the blame Bush crowd I guess.

The court has also ordered that the accused man from Culemborg be examined in the Pieter Baan psychiatric centre in Utrecht to find out if his cultural background played a role in the crime.

If this was indeed an 'honor' killing then culture had everything to do with it.

Babba Zee-- or in the immortal words of a movie I saw recently "We need a bigger boat..."

Defense atty Jony Van Cochran -

If the victim dishonered
You must exhoner ...

OT, but a wrap-up to the morning dead thread and those that were in the first stages of arranging an east coast LGF meet-up. I'm not likely to be a participant in any case, as I will hopefully (please, please, please !) be on a contract somewhere. So by any and all means, have it anywhere the great east coast division of the lizardoid army cares to meet ! I look forward to the tall tales and posted photos, regardless of what shithole I may be in at the time.

expert: "Yep, she's dead alright."

#7 LeonidasOfSparta
Mm-Hmmm!

#9 Mike C.
:-) K -thanks!

protect the honour of the family

This is so warped it is deplorable.

How can any reasonable person believe that reason is going to work with people who believe that it restores their honor if they are ashamed of their own family member and must kill them?

I'm glad I read that again I thought the article said Pieter Paan psychiatric centre, however that works as well.

Since when is a "cultural expert" needed? A brief trial and a rope should increase the Muslim Communities cultural awareness of Western Cultures values. Oops! I forgot. We must respect the killers culture. Off with his head! Use a "long drop" and a piano wire noose.

Are they proposing to make an allowance for this fellow's "cultural background"?

If anything, he should be punished more severely, to discourage the practice of murdering to keep women in line.

Let's hope that custody of the baby was given to the non-Muslim father or his family.

I want the long history of defending self and others from insane Muslims in my culture to be better understood by experts and shrinks.

This dude will be out on the streets, faster then some of OUR sexual predators...and it's all because.."Your Momma Don't Dance* and Your Daddy Don't Rock and Roll"...Ummm, carried away...had earphones on...f***ing leftists HERE, and f***ing stupidists THERE.

* Loggins and Messina

Those experts are only brought in to assure everyone islam has nothing to with it.

/sad but true

Her brother had allegedly regularly threatened the victim, and she had made a complaint to police in November 2004, shortly before her death.

muslim men are so caring,
this brother tried to stay in contact with his sister to inform her of his beliefs.

if the frigging moonbats in the usa think these people dont intend to harm us,
when/ if they take over.

try missing the prayer rug on a saturday.

I hope the bastard gets at least 6 months.

I think the baby is also in danger.

#22
that's funny, yet sick, yet...
yet I wouldn't be surprised if he got 6 months!
or "time served"
he is locked up, right?

hey, if Ebonics is proper English for certain people, then surely "honor killing" is not exactly the same as outright "murder"

"Well, since we have no laws against "honor killings" we must let this defendant go free.
Until such time as our legislature craft laws dealing specifically with honor killings, the practice may continue in legal limbo."

Can't you just hear that coming?

/SARC, for those of you who have a hard time with dry humor

Good God Almighty!

Of course the "culture" of Islam had everything to do with this. And why is it necessary to call in an expert on "honor killing"?

Are these people blinkered and stupid?

Why are they catering to these cretins? Fear?

“experts” in 'honor' killings:

Fastest growth industry in Eurabia

See they aren't lazy and complacement waiting for others to do the hard work they ought to do

Euroweans really don't just want others to sacrifice themselves for their freedom they want to pull their weight too!

They're not waiting for other people who don't know them and that they hate to save them once again - really their not - they have a plan , somewhere here... i'll find it after my two hour lunch break... yeah

Europe is weak

"Her brother had allegedly regularly threatened the victim, and she had made a complaint to police in November 2004, shortly before her death"

Oh, yes. By all means, trust the po-lice. Let the authorities handle it.

A child orphaned at 15 days, by it's own uncle...this is more than crime...this is an Abomination.

"...his cultural background played a role in the crime. An expert in ‘honour’ killings will also testify at a later hearing."

Not too long ago, my own culture held pretty harsh views on interracial relationships. Although usually it was the alien male of the pair that was killed, not the female kin, to satisfy "family honor".

I guess our culture holds women in higher esteem, or has bigger balls, than some cultures we could name.

Just hypothetically, if I had a sister or a daughter who took up with an Arab Muslim, and I then blasted a great big hole in his chest and/or head to "defend the family honor", do any of you
think MY "cultural background" would be used in my defense?

HELL NO!, I'd be branded a bigoted racist redneck bastard and taken to the "Man-Pound" for my lethal injection.

As it should be.

Ah, but it's TOTALLY DIFFERENT for Muslims, isn't it?

Regards;

"Killing in the name of God is Blasphemy."

Pope John Paul II

Cultural diversity IS moral diversity. That's why the Left still embraces it, all negative consequences aside.

next thing you know, moonbats will have College Seminars on Honor Killings as the Semi-Deification of Women in Islamic Nations.
and
The Feminist Nature of Empowerment in Islam, as demonstrated by Higher Standards of Behavior placed on Womyn.
or
Beyond Abortion: How Honor Killings Reduce Unwanted Pregnancies in Modern Eurabia.
do I ned a /Sarc?

He'll plead insanity, as they always do.

If he does any time it will be in a prison without bars.

Sounds more like the Dutch need an expert to tell them that they are (or at least used to be) part of the Western civilization and that it is imperative to make the Muslims understand the difference between being a savage and a civilized person.

#28 Obi-Wan

Yep. But apparently Mohammed thought otherwise.

Is it still a crime for a muslim to kill his wife or sister?

serve more time if he beat his frigging dog.

#29 RBMN
Morality by ddefinition does not include the concept of "diversity".
There is no "diverse" morality
that would be called moral relativism.

WTF are you trying to say..? Ya lost me.

#33 rightymouse

Mohammed had a lot of crazy ideas. They were far too numerous to list here.

#28 Obi-Wan
THOU SHALT NOT MURDER
~ HaShem

;-)

Yet one more example of why banning such words as 'evil' and 'wrong' from the teaching of cultural values is a very very bad idea.

Yes the perp is insane. He still killed someone. So his life as a free person is forfeit in order to protect the other citizens. End of story. Lock him up in a tiny cubicle.

It's just a "diverse" idea of honor from that of Western Civilization...Therefore, it couldn't possibly be inferior, or, even more judgmentally, "wrong."

Only suicidal fools try to understand and placate evil.

Ahhh, the religion of tolerance...

Honor seems a strange descriptor of a murder like this.

Honor killing is murder in the first degree and a hate crime as well. I'm waiting for NOW, the UN, and "Ask the Imam" to come out and make strong public message against the murder of Apostates from Islam, but all I can hear are crickets.

What a waste of a potential suicide bomber

Reminds me of the article in this morning's paper about the guy in Gallup who entered a plea of not guilty for dragging a man 4000 ft. tied behind his pickup. The last sentence says, "Investigators do not believe the case is a hate crime." What does it matter what was in the guy's heart when he did this? It obviously wasn't love, but this "brother" in Amsterdam could claim it was "love" in his heart, for the family, or even for his sister. Again, why should it matter what was in his heart while he killed her? If a society can't agree that all murder (or aggravated assault in Gallup, the victim is still alive) is bad, then there's already some inexcusable nuancing going on.

I don't see what the problem is. If the man broke the law then try and convict him for it. If the family ordered it, then try and convict them too. Why do the socialists have to make this sort of thing hard.

In an application like this making the family bring them their food while in jail or they starve to death seems like a fitting punishment.
Since that is the law in many middle-eastern countries they should already be used to that one.

JFM

cannibalism used to be/IMHO is still practised in some culture somewhere in a 3rd world area. i wonder if europe will next embrace this as a "culture" worthy to be "saved"?

Back from the pub.

Tottenham drew 2-2 with Liverpool at Anfield in an entertaining match, which saw Stevie G. miss from the spot, among other things.

#44 wrenchwench,

inexcusable nuancing

Moral relativism. Cultural suicide. Decadence. Nihilism.
I like your turn of phrase.

apologies. I would like to ask a favor of all of you. If any of you have helped a loved one die, I don't need to explain. A dear friend of mine is doing this now. And, BTW, her husband, who is the person she is helping to die, brought the first piano into Afghanistan!

The favor: laughter. If you have a funny story, a joke, anything that brings a smile, a belly laugh, etc., would you please email me?

For those of you who know me and wondered where I've been...this is what's up.

Many thanks...

#50 A.I.:

Naw, Israel, but we do have pubs here, too. :>))

Actually, the one I frequent for football [soccer] games is mostly populated by Brits and othe Anglo ex-pats.

What a charming religion.

#51 grayp
Moishe was an elderly man and resided in a nursing home in Hendon. One day he went into the office and informed his nurse that his penis had died. Realizing that Moishe was old and forgetful, she decided to play along with him.
"It did? I'm sorry to hear that, Moishe," she replied.
Two days later, Moishe was walking down the hall at the nursing home with his penis hanging outside his pants. His nurse saw him and said, "Moishe, I thought you told me your penis had died."
"It has," Moishe replied, "today is the viewing."

Cultural difference: In my eeevil Western culture, an "honor killing" involving family would be tracking down any SOB who harmed or God forbid killed my sister and taking him out. In the Religion of Peace, an "honor killing" is BEING the SOB who kills your sister.

Yup, sound equally valid to me. /spit

Maybe this will be the little 'nudge' reminder to the Dutch that Theo's death was NOT AN ANOMALY! They have been backsliding of late, starting to make noises like maybe 'we aren't trying hard enough to help our Muslims assimilate!' When it's 'their Muslims' who AREN'T TRYING TO ASSIMILATE! What's more...their Muslims will kill them if THEY don't assimilate to Islam. They don't fully realize that yet.

This is a shameful story, but not one with which we are unfamiliar here in lizardoid land where we promise to look at everything if not necessarily approve of it.

#51 grayp
An elderly Italian Jewish man wanted to unburden his guilty conscience by talking to his Rabbi. "Rabbi, during World War II, when the Germans entered Italy, I pretended to be a 'goy" and changed my name from Levi to Spamoni and I am alive today because of it."
"Self preservation is important and the fact that you never forgot that you were a Jew is admirable," said the Rabbi.
"Rabbi, a beautiful Jewish woman knocked on my door and asked me to hide her from the Germans. I hid her in my attic and they never found her."
"That was a wonderful thing you did and you have no need to feel guilty."
"It's worse Rabbi. I was weak and allowed her to repay me for my efforts with her sexual favours."
"You were both in great danger and would have suffered terribly if the Germans had found her. There is a favourable balance between good and evil and you will be judged kindly. Give up your feelings of guilt."
"Thank you, Rabbi. That's a great load off my mind. But I have one more question."
"And what is that?"
"Should I tell her the war is over?"

An expert in ‘honour’ killings will also testify at a later hearing.

"So, for instance, when my sister dishonored the family by marrying an infidel and drinking idiotic, we of course killed her to cleanse our family's great name."

"No further questions for Mr. Hussein."

...to find out if his cultural background played a role in the crime.

It could have been a shortage of potassium in his diet. Let's not jump to conclusions.

The court has also ordered that the accused man from Culemborg be examined in the Pieter Baan psychiatric centre in Utrecht to find out if his cultural background played a role in the crime.

I think the court confuses culture with bestiality.

The rabid [bigoted word] ought to be taken to a veterinarian, and promptly put to sleep before he kiils again.

#49 A.I.

Sure glad we got all of those Muslims (ROP) out from under that murderous thug Saddam, so they can pursue the enlightenment of the infidels, and keep their women in line.

#47 Golden Jerusalem - What?

"Tottenham drew 2-2 with Liverpool at Anfield in an entertaining match, which saw Stevie G. miss from the spot, among other things. "

What's so entertaining about someone named Stevie missing the G spot? And what's so noteworthy about Tottenham drawing 2+2 unless they needed someone named Anfield to erase the "= 4"? for artistic integrity or somesuch?

Maybe I should head off for a saloon and try reading your post again!

"Men have authority over women because Allah has made the one superior to the other."(Q. 4:34)

45 jolly fat man said..

If the man broke the law then try and convict him for it. If the family ordered it, then try and convict them too.

And I would add, if the leader of the Mosque he attends is promoting this, then he should considered part of the conspiracy to commit murder and be indicted as well.

Imagine if in the USA, some white supremacist group openly advised killing any siblings that dared to have a relationship with a non-white. If some idiot followed that advice, I'm sure the feds would use RICO laws to go after the individuals and assets from that group. In the USA, speech promoting murder is not covered under the First Ammendment.

But when the same thing happens in Eurabia involving Islamic apostates, the Euro-elites refer to the murder as an "Honor Killing" as if to imply that its just another quirky Islamic religious custom, nothing to see here, move along.

The Euros think they stand on moral high ground compared to the US. Bullsh*t. The Euro elites are quivering pansy-asses quietly sitting back watching their civilization go septic trying to figure out how not to piss off the very ones trying to kill them.

#62 realwest

You stay the hell OUT of that saloon!

#21 ibmkeyboard:

That's why: NO SHARIA IN CANADA!

The Muslim women don't want it. Ask them (when their husbands aren't around). It's the MEN of Islam who want Sharia Law introduced into our countries. So they can continue to bully half their populations, the female half, into doing everything their way. Muslim men are spoiled brats and no amount of regulation is going to change that until Muslim women stop colluding and 'enabling' the men to behave that way. Like 'pimps' Muslim men have engineered their religion and their social life so that women must 'please' them or be rejected not just by the single male she refuses to please or simply displeases, but by his family, friends, her family's honor is involved and her whole society is against her.

This is quite simply totally unfair BUT AS LONG AS THE MEN MAKE THE RULES AND THE WOMEN OBEY THEM, NOTHING WILL CHANGE.

THE WOMEN MUST STOP OBEYING THE MEN--TOGETHER--EN MASSE! Just tell Muslim men to go to hell--they've been selling them a 'line' that's worked amazingly well for thousands of years but this is 2005. It's over!

#66 Obi-Wan Yes Sir! (it was only part of my obviously hilarous post, never really intended to do it).

#64: Ever read Under the Banner of Heaven by Jon Krakauer? That's almost precisely what happened among a small group of Mormon polygamists -- two brothers killed the wife and baby daughter of a third brother. Brilliant book (as is anything by Krakauer).

I remember reading some years back about an arab family who did exactly the same thing to their daughter in the United States (except the girl wasn't even pregnant). The father who was responsible for the killing treated the judge (who was female) as though she were the scum of the earth. The judge sentenced him to death.

Babbazee

You are an evil woman and you and I know that is a compliment. I have to go now - the email is coming in and we have work to do.

#51 grayp

A rabbi and a priest happen to be sitting together on a flight, and began making small talk. The priest ask the rabbi if he had ever eaten ham, and the rabbi had to admit that he had. Then the rabbi ask the priest if he had ever been with a woman, and the priest said that yes he had. The rabbi looked at the priest and said, beats the hell out of ham doesn't it.

#71 grayp
;-)

#68 realwest

Just as I thought. :-)

67 foreign devil

Great point. But I'm guessing "Ask the Imam" would disagree.

Charles

I think you're going to want to read this thread. It concerns a senior Spanish socialist politician's connections to the 3/11 cell, his apparent-dummy company that deals with the nastier Arab/Muslim regimes, and the tangled web between ETA, al-Qaeda and the Spanish socialist party.

Yes, honor killing is Islamic. Don't apologize for it.

Honor Killing

69 doppelganglander

With 300 million people, I'm sure we have our share of kooks out there. Funny that the people who consider themselves the holiest usually turn out to be so evil. I'm curious to how the courts handled that case, and how it compares to how the courts would handle that case today.

#77 Colt - hi Colt - dead fish! (long time no see) [as a collective groan arises from the massed lizadroids]!
How's you're birthday been going, so far?
;>)

#80 AI

No Pope can or would change the basic teachings of the church in any manner. Think of the Pope as a caretaker who is charged with preserving and passing on to his successor, what has been entrusted to him.

#81 realwest

Not bad. I broke the department record for a sale I made today. The guy spent about £2,700. My manager would have probably put out if I'd pushed the issue ;-)

#62 realwest:

Uh, buddy...

Where do I begin? :>)))

/It's soccer, doncha know?

In a country under Sharia law, there would be no consequences for the murderous brother, as he was preserving the "honor" of both his family and Islam. However, he committed the heinous act in a Western country governed by rational, secular law. Accordingly there will be a trial, experts on "honor" and "diversity" will testify, politcians and judges will confer, and a stiff six month sentence will be handed down. Western law will be said to prevail in an increasingly diverse society. Goodby Holland, you don't have a chance.

The moral of this story is..if you are cursed enough to be islamic and want to NOT be one..you must make a preemptive strike on your damm relatives.

#85 AI

They had zero hope before, so nothing has changed. The MSM and the LLL's would like people to believe that the church would drift leftward. That's why there's always speculation about what would happen under a new pope. It's disinformation on the Left's part.

OT - This just in : Sunni militants have taken about 70 Shiite males hostage in the central Iraqi town of Madain and have threatened to kill them unless all Shiites leave the town.

“There were about 100 masked men, riding in cars, roaming the city. They took hostages from the Shiite youth and old men, and demanded the Shiites leave the city,”

Islamic "Honor" is "restored" by becoming murderers.

Think about it.

The foster mother is in hiding because she fears the family in Iraq wants to punish her for giving the victim too much freedom.

This make me very optimistic our hundreds of billions spent on Iraq will create a democracy with individual freedoms.

Is there any way to vaccinate against Islam?

OT:

As all of you have seen with my "cease-fire" watch, the terror groups haven't been living up to their part of the bargain, that is stopping attacks. So what do they do now? Make demands that Israel release more prisoners, and officially break off the "cease-fire"

What chutzpah!

pimf *or officially

Did you hear about (no joke) the Palestinian public relations department that was advising Palestians in Europe to refer to homocide bombings as "Honor operations" or something like that?

My feeling wasn't that they were trying to make killing Jews sound more acceptable to Europeans (that's already acceptable). No, they were trying to leverage the acceptance of murdering Israelis to make honor killings more acceptable.

Ugly, ugly.

#83 Colt - eggselent - what on earth did he buy worth more than 2,700 lbs (sorry my keyboard only has a $ sign on it for money; arrogant American manufacturer, no doubt)?

Is there any way to vaccinate against Islam?

great quote.

Meanwhile, in Brooklyn (NY):

Invoking the name “Martin Luther King” and screaming “Black Power!” a gang of up to 30 black teens attacked four white girls in Marine Park in what police are saying is not a bias crime.

[Link: www.brooklynskyline.com...]

Is there any way to vaccinate against Islam?

Bush needle.

#84 Golden Jerusalem - oh SOCCER - that explains my ignorance. Only tried playing it once, got kicked in the shins (those hot shot knee high sox don't provide much protection, and being unwilling to play a sport that could provoke such pain, I switched to American football).
I did nai, er date a soccer mom once though (she was divorced at the time) and she was VERY enthusiastic!
I thinked she liked soccer, too!

;>))

#80 AI

You lump any change into the same category of whining?

whiners that wanted gay marriage, married priests, female priests, nods to birth control, etc...can kiss all of your hopes goodbye...

When I see a Catholic priest, the first thing which pops into my head is "does he molest boys?" That's not by choice, it just happens because of the last five years of news. Really though, these stories have been around much longer than that.

If the church allowed these guys to marry each other, let some heteros become priests, and allowed women to become fully human, maybe I wouldn't be forced to think of the Catholic Church as a child sex abuse conspiracy.

Flame away. Or, search "Catholic sex abuse".

American Infidel

Keep in mind that a lot of those "whiners" are the people who are essentially running many of the parishes in the US. Parishes that used to have three or four priests now have one, and he's probably close to 60, so most of the day to day operation and the formation classes are handled by lay volunteers. I think whiners is too strong of a term. The Church absolutely needs some changes or it will soon face implosion in the US when there simply aren't enough priests.

One girl made it as far as a nearby house, but was dragged by her hair back into the playground by a “wolf pack of children,” Debbie said.

too bad i was not there with my new pump shotgun.
could have knocked off some knee caps.

where were the cops?
where were the parents?
where were---just makes me tired.

#99 realwest:

got kicked in the shins (those hot shot knee high sox don't provide much protection

for this, we have shin guards

Anyways, soccer is a man's game, so it comes with the risk of pain...

#97 bp sf - read the link; didn't see it here in the newspapers in manhattan. Thank God it wasn't a bias attack!

/sarc off

#43 artboy LOLOLOLOL

#103 Golden Jerusalem - shin guards? SHIN GUARDS?! How wussified can that sport get? Not like American football at all
(helmets, shoulder pads, thigh pads, neck brace/pads etc. etc., but no shin guards allowed! ;>)

And I want to know who wrote that stupid (but, alas, true)rule:

"a man's game, so it comes with the risk of pain... "

#100 Beagle

That's a mighty broad brush you're painting with, brother.

#70 Hoyode, Perfect! Let's hope he gets a female judge and really pisses her off. Maybe she'll give him a harsh sentence.
One can only hope.

#107 Obi-Wan

What amuses me about the media commenters about the next pope is that they are essentially saying, "I hope the next Pope isn't a catholic."

Is a barbaric cultural upbringing a defense nowadays, like insanity? If so, doesn't that also make it a risk factor, to be treated and the victims locked away?

#100

Flame away. Or, search "Catholic sex abuse".

you realize by allowing priests to marry, it's not any kind of real protection vs pedophilia? there have been cases of pedophilia involving hindu priests, buddhists priests, rabbis, muslim mullahs, etc.. many of them married men with children of their own. hell how do you think incest occurs? married men with children molesting their own! have you been watching the news lately? married women (teachers) molesting their own students! if that sickness is in the heart of the individual nothing short of total seperation from children will stop him/her from commiting the crime. if every time you see a priest you think pedophile, that says more about your predjudice then about the priest.

Caterpillar's defense in the absurd suit brought by St. Pancake's parents ought to be that it was an honor killing. After all, Caterpillar is not without honor. As I'm sure any cultural "expert" will testify.

Beagle, the answer almost every time to your question will be no, in about the same proportions as it will be no in the general population of men of the same age.

OT - this is how we deal with illegal immigration: [Link: enews.earthlink.net...]

ALL those senators, Republicans especially (because they should know better) should hang their heads in shame. Frickin politicians.

#97 bp-sf

"After adults intervened and asked them to wait their turn, the teens left - but returned in a pack of up to 30, both boys and girls, and stormed into the park"

If you had to guess and project 20 years into the future, what % of these "kids" would be a; solid citizens,b; in prison c; dead?

#109 MK of BS

It's just the left projecting it's hatred of moral absolutes.

Don't forget to watch the 25th anniversary edition of Death of a Princess next Tuesday.

Sometimes, public television does something right. The Saudi royal family tried to silence the made-for-television movie Death of a Princess, but now, 25 years later, it looks as though the Saudis didn't succeed.

Nothing will anger proponents of so-called "honor killing" more than getting your friends to watch this movie.

I know it's PC to respect diversity of cultures. But these primatives need to be brought up to speed on what is and isn't acceptable behaviour in today's world. And if they insist on continuing honor killings, then I guess decent society is going to have to insist on eliminating them. Problem is, I can't find very many decent societies in Europe or the middle East.

Charles, um oh Charles - you're either out riding your bike or you did attend the Oakland meet-up, managed a few posts, then went to bed to cure a no doubt HUGE hangover, but when you get a chance, could you perhaps give us an open thread or two?
BTW - anyone hear how the meet-up (a/k/a Havoc's party) went?

103 GJ

Anyways, soccer is a man's game, so it comes with the risk of pain...

Yes, but every ounce of pain is accompanied by a pound of whining, flopping, grimacing, arm flailing, limping away, chin-checking, tear wiping, etc. Some of the finest actors in the world are Euro footballers. For crying out loud, they deserve a category at the Oscars!

But I really do enjoy watching great soccer, so I am not your typical soccer-hating American. The refs actually seem to reward the theatrics which is probably why the behavior is so prevalent.

Party? There was a party? I remember nothing.

#121 Jheka Oh No buddy, you're not getting away with that!
How was it (I'm so jealous that I couldn't make it) Nobody we know went to jail, did they?
;>)

#96

Is there any way to vaccinate against Islam?

Yes, through the ear with a 15 cm long needle.

O/T:

What are Bay Area moonbats doing on Saturday?

They're rallying to defend Ward Churchill.

What are they doing on Sunday?

They're having a "Queer Afternoon for Palestine."

That's right ... a "queer afternoon for Palestins." The cognitive dissonance and epic stupidity of this simply makes my head hurt ... I know ... let's have a "Hindu morning for Pakistan" or a "Jewish evening for Syria."

Here is what I suggest. The next time they want to have a "Queer afternoon for Palestine" let them try and have it in Palestine and see how that works out.

120 mich-again ROTFLMAO!

Um, tell me again, what exactly does Islam have to recommend it?

BTW, here's a picture from the last San Francisco Gay Pride parade. Idiots.

#127 Gabba Gabba Hey:

Explosive euthanasia doctrine?

#125 Jheka

Queer afternoon for Palestine

LOL LOL LOL LOL

I guess they like being abused

like this

Palestinian police have increasingly enforced Islamic religion law, he said: "It's now impossible to be an open gay in the P.A." He recalled that one gay man in the Palestinian police went to Israel for a short time. When he returned to the West Bank, Palestinian Authority police confined him to a pit without food or water until he died.

A 17-year-old gay youth recalled that he spent months in a Palestinian Authority prison "where interrogators cut him with glass and poured toilet cleaner into his wounds."

read the whole thing

Stories like these make me wonder why they would support the PA

#128

what does gay pride have to do with waving pali flags? don't they realize that in islamic countries they'd be put to death on the spot for being gay? can anyone explain the gay/pali link?

maybe this should be forwarded to those idiots in san fran:
[Link: www.frontpagemag.com...]

"It is difficult to establish precisely the number of homosexuals that have been executed in Iran since the Islamic revolution in 1979, since not all sentences are widely publicized, but estimates range from several hundred to 4,000 (3). According to Amnesty International, at least three homosexual men and two lesbians were publicly beheaded in January 1990. The Islamic Penal Law Against Homosexuals, approved in July 1991 and ratified in November of that year, is simple. Article 110: “Punishment for sodomy is killing; the Sharia judge decides on how to carry out the killing.” Article 129: “Punishment for lesbianism is one hundred (100) lashes for each party.” Article 131: “If the act of lesbianism is repeated three times and punishment is enforced each time, the death sentence will be issued the fourth time.”"

OT:
I just heard a hillarious Muslim comic on CBC (didn't catch her name).

She said that in Islam women cover their hair because in Islam men are supposed to be attracted to hair. Then she said "I tried it, it didn't work ... my legs are all hairy and I can't get a man to go near them."

People ask me why my Mother walks five steps behind my father. I tell them, "he looks better from that side"

[she had been talking about visiting Afganistan]
[in proud voice she said] Now women walk five steps in front of the men... because of the land mines.

She also said that when she visited Mecca and walked around the black stone, someone pinched her bottom. At first she didn't say anything thinking it must be the hand of God, but then it happened again. Then she didn't say anything because it meant her prayer had been answered. Since I've come to Canada it's obvious that lots of men must be converting to Islam (implication - she gets pinched a lot)...

that's when they faded the act out.

Is it Islam? It is tribal custom? It is superstition? Does it matter?

Perhaps Muslim immigrants to western countries should be informed once they arrive that so-called "honor killing" is illegal. This custom constitutes a form of rebellion against a democratic state because it attempts to substitute a foreign law for the law of the land, much as the Ku Klux Klan substituted its reign of terror over the written law.

This case is about civil rights, and civil rights isn't about "diversity". If anything, the academic patois of "diversity" is closer to classic apartheid than anything else, as the entire worldview of apartheid presupposes cultural relativism and "separate development". The argument of "diversity" has become one demanding double standards, with the presumption that Muslims mustn't be held to the same standards as other people -- a view quite consistent with the Quran and Islamic tradition.

It's nice to try out various foods, but I won't "celebrate diversity" to the extent of celebrating Charles Manson, John Wayne Gacy, Jeffrey Dahmer, and the suicide bomber.

way OT

"Don't Crush That Dwarf, Hand Me the Pliers!"

Is it Islam? It is tribal custom? It is superstition? Does it matter?

Perhaps Muslim immigrants to western countries should be informed once they arrive that so-called "honor killing" is illegal. This custom constitutes a form of rebellion against a democratic state because it attempts to substitute a foreign law for the law of the land, much as the Ku Klux Klan substituted its reign of terror over the written law.

This case is about civil rights, and civil rights isn't about "diversity". If anything, the academic patois of "diversity" is closer to classic apartheid than anything else, as the entire worldview of apartheid presupposes cultural relativism and "separate development". The argument of "diversity" has become one demanding double standards, with the presumption that Muslims mustn't be held to the same standards as other people -- a view quite consistent with the Quran and Islamic tradition.

It's nice to try out various foods, but I won't "celebrate diversity" to the extent of celebrating Charles Manson, John Wayne Gacy, Jeffrey Dahmer, and the suicide bomber.

"can anyone explain the gay/pali link?"

It looks like a social event for losers, commies and idiots who support islamis terrorists. Anywho, its frisco so anything goes till sharia is implemented then the who gay/pali connection is going to evaporate into thin air. Silly people, islamic law doesn't equal tolerence.

On topic, these droogs need an education in what HONOR really means.

It's not murdering defenseless women, you fukks.

Is it Islam? It is tribal custom? It is superstition? Does it matter?

Perhaps Muslim immigrants to western countries should be informed once they arrive that so-called "honor killing" is illegal. This custom constitutes a form of rebellion against a democratic state because it attempts to substitute a foreign law for the law of the land, much as the Ku Klux Klan substituted its reign of terror over the written law.

This case is about civil rights, and civil rights isn't about "diversity". If anything, the academic patois of "diversity" is closer to classic apartheid than anything else, as the entire worldview of apartheid presupposes cultural relativism and "separate development". The argument of "diversity" has become one demanding double standards, with the presumption that Muslims mustn't be held to the same standards as other people -- a view quite consistent with the Quran and Islamic tradition.

It's nice to try out various foods, but I won't "celebrate diversity" to the extent of celebrating Charles Manson, John Wayne Gacy, Jeffrey Dahmer, and the suicide bomber.

Is it Islam? It is tribal custom? It is superstition? Does it matter?

Perhaps Muslim immigrants to western countries should be informed once they arrive that so-called "honor killing" is illegal. This custom constitutes a form of rebellion against a democratic state because it attempts to substitute a foreign law for the law of the land, much as the Ku Klux Klan substituted its reign of terror over the written law.

This case is about civil rights, and civil rights isn't about "diversity". If anything, the academic patois of "diversity" is closer to classic apartheid than anything else, as the entire worldview of apartheid presupposes cultural relativism and "separate development". The argument of "diversity" has become one demanding double standards, with the presumption that Muslims mustn't be held to the same standards as other people -- a view quite consistent with the Quran and Islamic tradition.

It's nice to try out various foods, but I won't "celebrate diversity" to the extent of celebrating Charles Manson, John Wayne Gacy, Jeffrey Dahmer, and the suicide bomber.

#135 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb) - That was a really revolting story - this idjit Izzo needs someone to pound his head hard and often enough to make him the same height.
Some people are so needlessly cruel it's almost beyond belief.

134 Sasquatch

I'm sure they know it's illegal.

It's illegal in most countries where it's practiced by the way, though Muslim countries don't punish honor killings very heavily.

What amazed me was that an attempt by the king of Jordan to introduce a law outlawing honor killings in Jordan failed to pass the parlament. It's odd. Islam doesn't endorse honor killings yet members of Jordan's parliment were quoted as saying that outlawing the killing of girls and women by their families would infringe on religious freedom.

Another politician was quoted as saying that all of the victims of honor killings deserved to die (I think he called them whores). And still others were quoted with the usual line given to the western press - that there are no honor killings.

Neither truth nor justice has any place in Jordanian society as far as I could tell from that article.

#136 , 139 and 140 Sasquatch - please only hit the post button ONCE.
Thankew!

How ironic. The "liberal" tradition says that it is OK for a woman to have a babyout of wedlock and with a man outside of her social group. Let's be tolerant. Will "liberals" now say that it is OK to murder such a woman provided that the murderer is foreign or "other". Should we tolerate such a killing?

Is it Islam? It is tribal custom? It is superstition? Does it matter?

Perhaps Muslim immigrants to western countries should be informed once they arrive that so-called "honor killing" is illegal. This custom constitutes a form of rebellion against a democratic state because it attempts to substitute a foreign law for the law of the land, much as the Ku Klux Klan substituted its reign of terror over the written law.

This case is about civil rights, and civil rights isn't about "diversity". If anything, the academic patois of "diversity" is closer to classic apartheid than anything else, as the entire worldview of apartheid presupposes cultural relativism and "separate development". The argument of "diversity" has become one demanding double standards, with the presumption that Muslims mustn't be held to the same standards as other people -- a view quite consistent with the Quran and Islamic tradition.

It's nice to try out various foods, but I won't "celebrate diversity" to the extent of celebrating Charles Manson, John Wayne Gacy, Jeffrey Dahmer, and the suicide bomber.

I just stumbled across this site (honestly) and, although I don't know what to make of it really, the name alone is too good to not share with you all :

Queer Jihad

#145 Sasquatch - Please see my post at #143.

#147 realwest

Ooops! Thanks for the hint...

This is just another example... ISLAM cannot survive in a climate where there is a CHOICE of different religions or ways of life.

In fact, did you know that christianity was the most popular religion in the current day middle east until about the 16th century? In fact it was more popular by a huge margin until these countries started to be dominated by dictatorships which allowed the punshment and persecution of all other religions other than Islam.

Its easy for Islam to get followers when its the only game in town, but given the freedom of choice not many people would pick such as radical backwards religion/way of life.

THIS is why they hate the west so much, the ideas of freedom to choose your own religion, freedom to live as you want too...the islomofacists know that they can never be more than a radical minority in this sort of world and they hate that idea.

149 Han_Solo

But honor killings are a cultural hanger on. They're not approved of in Islam, but tolerating murder within families is a side effect of Sharia because under Sharia, murder is treated as a civil offense against a family not as a crime. So if the family doesn't ask for any punishment for a murder (because they themselves are the guilty party) then there is no punishment.

It is stories like this that remind me once again what a great country we live in (those of us who do live here, anyway). Freedom OF religion. The idea of the whole world becoming Muslim? Terrifying.

#151 Bob's Kid

We not only have Freedom OF Religion, we have Freedom FROM Religion. Something muslims will never understand.

Hold on. I see, this wasn't just an honor killing. They killed the girl for not being Muslim enough.. Interestingly enough I think the family was even harsher than Islam. Generally men are killed as apostates or for leaving Islam, but women are jailed or some such because under Sharia it's assumed that women aren't fully sentient and so can't be held fully responsible for their opinions.

OT- I posted this last night, but I know a lot of people are concerned about illegal immigration, so in case anyone didn't see it- U.S. Has Freed Foreign Murderers Under Loophole

just a point of clarification, not that is doesn't make the behaviour any less ignorant

honour killing is not part of official Islam

honour killing is part of Arab and other cultural traditions that preceded Islam

Islam wouldn't be half so bad if you could divorce it from various Arab traditions...

I remember BBC's Correspondent did a fabulous documentary on honour killing in Pakistan and the reporter asked a group of Pakistan men and boys what justification did a group of men having for killing a man and a woman, unjustly accused of adultery - one of the rare cases where they actually bothered to kill the male adulterer too rather than just the accused female (kill first ask questions later eh?)

and they quoted this chapter and verse from the Koran which in fact didn't say that at all...ignorance is not bliss

152 Obi-Wan

There are american Judges who don't understand "freedom from religion"

I remember a case in the 80's where an adopted little girl was taken away from her familiy because the parents admitted that they weren't religious. The Judge claimed that having unreligious parents denied the girl her "freedom of religion" even though the parents pledged not to get in the girl's way if she wanted to be religious.

This was in the south of course... I think that sort of thing still goes on occasionally.

#134 #136 #139 #140 Sasquatch
By any chance, is there a cat playing with your mouse?

#141 realwest

He sounds like a headcase to me. Just bizarre. But the dwarfs definitely had the last laugh!

#156 Joshua (not a hamster) Scholar

I doubt it. The ACLU is much stronger now than it was 20 years ago. They go out of their way to find cases like that--especially in the south.

#154 Megan - I did see that; see my post #114 for some more disgusting news about immigration.

Closer to home on the subject of diversity, the excellent Heather MacDonald testified on Wednesday about "Immigration and the Alien Gang Epidemic" to the House Immo Subcommittee.

Heather MacDonald Testimony

Sanctuary laws violate everything we have learned about policing in the 1990s. Police departments across the country discovered that utilizing every law enforcement tool in their tool chest against criminals yielded enormous gains. Getting criminals off the streets for seemingly "minor" crimes such as turnstile jumping or graffiti saved lives. Gang crime, which exploded 50% from 1999 to 2002, is too serious a problem to ignore this lesson.

Jam packed with facts about alien crime, and how little is being done.

"Honor Killing"? Now that's quite an oxymoron. What the fuck is honorable about murdering your sister?

Jeez.

Nobody needs a shrink to identify this punk as a moral criple and anti-social psycho-murderer.

Hello? Anybody real out there?

I dont think its any surprise that they do freaky deaky crap over there. sad really.

In other news...
* TOM DELAY STUFF * top post =)

Our whole judicial system needs to be fumigated and overhauled in this country. IMHO!

87,

Yep, the Islamic women should kill their brothers and husbands and fathers, and say it was self defense to prevent being killed in an "honor killing." The Feminists should be in total support of this.

/sarcasm

I wonder what would be the "distance" between Islamic "honor killings" and American Rapper/Gang culture "Ho Abuse" of their women and sisters.

I fear not much distance at all.

Pieter Baan psychiatric center... to find out if his cultural background played a role in the crime.

So, if his cultural background played a role in the crime, he gets a lighter sentence, right? In the name of "religious freedom". The Pieter Baan psychiatric center must be where Dutch dreamers go for their brain baaths.

OT
Little People of America
Because of the Hi ho, harrasser (heh) story, thought I'd give this link.

The site is for little people (usually but not always defined as an adult height of 4'10" or under as the result of a medical or genetic condition), a family member, or people with a well-founded interest in issues relating to dwarfism.

The main slant is on medical stuff (dwarfism has other negative medical affects besides shortness) and social stuff (e.g., meeting other little people).

And if you happen to meet a dwarf, remember, you are meeting a human, actually. I know they get gawked at (I had a friend in college who was a dwarf), but it really is deeply annoying anyway.

#168 Cattt,

As I have said many times here, it's not what is on the outside of a person, but what it is on the inside that counts.

Way OT, and with apologies to the site, but if anybody would please fill me in as to whether bigel was truly banned, I would appreciate it. No need for any kind of involved discussion, just a bare statement of facts will do. Send it to me off-list. Again, my apolgies.

#170 Mike C.

Way OT, and with apologies to the site, but if anybody would please fill me in as to whether bigel was truly banned, I would appreciate it.

If he has been, it will make it a lot harder to label LGF as a hate site.

#161 Brenda

Getting criminals off the streets for seemingly "minor" crimes such as turnstile jumping or graffiti saved lives.

Great piece, thank you. I used to live in New York City. Had the misfortune of living there during the Dinkins Administration, where the attitude, endorsed by liberals, of ignoring petty offenses was all the rage. Then Rudy Giuliani, excoriated as a racist, facist dope, said he was going to arrest people for ALL criminal activity.

The libs moaned and screamed about the rights of the squeegee guys who stopped every car and spat on people who wouldn't pay them to "clean" their windshields. Rudy was undeterred...everyone who committed crimes was arrested, period.

Guess what, the crime rate fell off a cliff. The "petty offenders" turned out to be serious criminals when they had time to concentrate, and all criminals suddenly realized they were going to pay for committing crimes. The City was reborn, and Rudy went on to even be popular with liberals.

Liberal policies with respect to criminal activity are failures. Illegal Immigration is the latest example.

OT (maybe)

While investigating a Memphis-Morocco marriage scam, FBI agents find hidden weapons, $34,000 in cash, passports, and a gruesome Arabic videotape.

[via Instapundit]

#170 Mike C.
Mike... yes he was.

#1 karmic_inquisitor

Honor killing expert? Sounds like the mob.

Sounds like a job for the UN.

UNHKC or United Nations Honor Killings Commission

#174 BabbaZee,

dead thread. ;-)

Hi BabbaZee.

What's going on here?

Hey Nam Grunt,

How was the Gulf Shrimp and fish fry ?

dunno ~ I just signed back on I was off for hours

#178 Havoc,

As brother Rayra would say eggscelent and how was the party (pissed to no means that I couldn't make it ;-)

#174 BabbaZee

I'm afraid to ask, but... What'd bigel do? (general answer will suffice, I don't want to do something that gets me banned)...

#178 Havoc

Nam Vet will tell you about the fish fry when you tell us about the party (right Nam Vet? Right?)

#182 Chris

#562, I believe, dead thread.

#184 SwampWoman

Thanks...

Chris & Mike C

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

RE: Queers for Palestine, or whatever it's called. I think it's just a lefty thing. When I was a liberal, people tried to get our gay activist group to watch videos about glorious Cuba. I yelled. They also would go on about Palestine. I supported Israel then, as I do now. It's just a lefty thing, with no thinking required. Also, (conservative) Christians support Israel, yet don't support gays, therefore, the enemy of my enemy...

172 Alone in NY

I love NY (to coin a phrase). I'm just a daytripper, but when we go, I have a great time. We're going again May 1st. Going to shop, gawk, and see Hairspray, then eat really, REALLY good deli food on the way home.

#187 Baldy

Insanity. Hey! I know! Let's all side with the guys that would disembowel us in a public place, against the guys that will make faces at us like we smell, quote Deutoronomy to us, and not hang out with us.

Smart!

# 174 BabbaZee

Oh, dear. Sorry to hear that. I am saddened. Thanks for the info.

#186 BabbaZee

Thanks...

Welcome CTP MC
I didnt read the back-story flame war that started it al, ~ there's been so many wars around here lately as soon as I see bitterness I just scroll...

49 American Infidel
Come now peeps, no need to show any surprise...I am surprised that they actually have not completely excused this man, don't you all know that in Islam dhimmis have no right to put on trial a moslem?

That this man is actually being held and is going to put be put on trial outside of sharia law, I am astounded...I guess the dhimmification is not yet complete, but the time is coming...

I could not agree more, AI! The ideology of human rights and women's rights, after all, is only compulsory for those western thinking unbelievers. Stick it to her, I say! No pun intended.

OT - On Bush's Nominee Bolton -- (aka UN Clean-up Crew)
and more Democrat Senate Sleaze
-- from PNAC Daily Blitz link

Here's the Screamining Headline from the "Usual Suspects" -- If they can't argue his competence, bring out the Ad Hominem attacks

Trouble hits Bolton Nomination -- Seatle Times - 12 hours ago

GOP support for Bolton Might be Wavering -- L.A. Times

Bolton's Pressure on CIA analyst angered colleagues - NYT (e.g. he's a meanie who hurts people's feelings and doesn't make nice so people will like him)

Bolton faces allegation that he tried to fire analyst -- WAPO
---

Now here's a guy who knew and knows Bolton -- William Krystol editor of the Weekly Standard -- Hat tip Jheka

April 13, 2005

MEMORANDUM TO: OPINION LEADERS

FROM: WILLIAM KRISTOL

SUBJECT: Bolton: Character Assassination

The assault on John Bolton—a collaborative effort of Senate Democrats, the liberal media, and some quasi-Republicans resentful of his success—has now degenerated from an earnest (if misguided) critique of his views to a pathetic attempt at character assassination.

I worked with John Bolton in the first Bush administration. I know many people who have worked with him and for him in this administration. Carl Ford’s characterization of Bolton as a “kiss-up, kick-down sort of guy” is disingenuous. No, let’s call a spade a spade—it’s dishonest.

John Bolton is no “kiss-up.” Quite the contrary. Over the last four years, he was famously willing to challenge his bosses, Secretary of State Colin Powell and Deputy Secretary Richard Armitage, at the daily 8:30 State Department senior staff meeting. He paid a price for this, especially by earning the enmity of Armitage. Carl Ford, the former State Department intelligence chief, was a close associate of Armitage.

Nor is Bolton a “kick down sort of guy.” In fact, Bolton has always had a reputation as a straight shooter, a good boss, and not a screamer—unlike, say, Armitage. (Not that Armitage’s screaming should disqualify him from a future appointment, either. Lots of able public officials have been screamers.) The fact is, John Bolton lost trust in a subordinate of Ford who had tried an end run around him and then asked, according to the subordinate’s immediate boss in the intelligence shop, only that he be “moved to some other portfolio.”

This character assassination of Bolton is repugnant. If people want to oppose him because of his views, they’re certainly entitled to do so. I and other Bolton supporters have welcomed such a debate (see my editorial, “Bolton’s the One,” in the April 18 Weekly Standard). But to impugn the character of someone who has served sixteen years in government, in four Senate-confirmed positions, and has been popular and respected (if disagreed with, at times) in each of these positions, is just plain wrong.

Source

# 186 BabbaZee

Ah. Well, I was off-line attending to honey-dos when that occured and didn't see it go down real-time. Charles has got to do what Charles has got to do, and that's that. Just sorry it had to come to this, is all. Sigh.

The Dutch authorities asked Osama Bin Laden and Abu Musab al-Zarqawi to serve as experts in ‘honour’ killings in this case. Both refused the offer because they think Holland is not islamic enough.
Can you believe this ?
The Netherlands not, NOT islamic enough...?

#187 Baldy

It's just a lefty thing, with no thinking required.

That's a great catch-phrase. Mind if I make a bumper sticker out of it?

"It's a lefty thing, no thinking required" haha!

DAMN! What the hell IS goin' on in California? They must be having way, way, WAY too good of a time.

Mike C -
Yeah, there's been a whole lotta ugly-jumpin', troll invasions and high school cliquery going on lately. I'm sorry it happened to him, but I thought it would, sooner or later, for him.
Sigh, too.

#199 BabbaZee

Are we choosing up sides for cliques? Is this open cliquing?

Swampy, I'm with you woman - whatever your clique is that's where I wanna be! ;-)

Fry him.

I'm a clique in my own mind.

# 200 Swamp Woman

That sounds vaguely obscene, somehow - love it !

Or a carnival ride, or just pleasant. ;-)

Nam you are beyond category ;-)

#206 BabbaZee,

You have such a way with words. ;-))

# 205 'Nam Grunt

So, I don't recall a trip report as to how the surf fishing went the other day. Catch anything ? Spin casting, or using a proper bait casting reel ?

#208 Rayra
yes. and I cant stand the squinched up sean penn perpetually aggrieved look either.
Eww!

# 208 Rayra

You could have stopped at the word "scientologist", you know...

And am I mistaken, or is the current posting population very much resembling the morning 'dead thread' population ?

#215 Mike C

And am I mistaken, or is the current posting population very much resembling the morning 'dead thread' population ?

You ain't imaginin' nothin'. We're popping back and forth between this thread and the dead thread from last night still.

#95 realwest

Mirrors, duvets, pillows, towels, sheets, bath mats... It adds up kinda quickly if you say you want the best of everything :-)

How're things with you?

#204 Mike C

That sounds vaguely obscene, somehow - love it !

Well, since I directed it at BabbaZee, it was NOT meant to be obscene! (BabbaZee--I love ya, but not in THAT way!)

But, as for you, Mike C...(evil leer).

Muslims hate dogs!

Swampy you Mike C pickin' up hussy you! LOL!

208 Rayra

Re "The Interpreter" - LA Weekly said - thank God for trailers - this one will save you $9 . "Since this trailer seemed like a week long, then the movie will seem like a life sentence." Heh.

Dogs ain't to fond of muslims, either.
That oughta be enough corroboration for anyone, when your dog doesn't like someone...

#208 Rayra

Yup, I saw those...with Sean Penn right? He is a classic Hollyweird self-absorbed moron.

For me, the dog thing alone tells me Mohammed is full of - - - fertilizer. Would God pick a dog-hater as his messenger? No.

#223 BabbaZee

Dogs ain't to fond of muslims, either

Well, they have very sensitive noses afterall. ;)

Rayra

Still laughing at the Kentucky Fried Chicken Anti-Peta attack... lol lol and the Beef Eating Man... My Hero... LOL LOL

I wish we could come up with another description besides "honor killings." These killings have nothing to do with honor and everything to do with subjugation and control. They are the means by which the members of a "dishonored" family tell their community: "We have dealt with the problem and regained control."

This is just savage.

# 208 Rayra

I'd rather see Manos: The Hands Of Fate without the benefit of the MST3K commentary.

Well, in the United States... no jury is going to acquit anyone killing someone in these circumstances... the guilty party will go to prison... where they will be faced by gangs of Aryan Nations, Mexicans, and Blacks... looking for a fresh face (ass)

Rayra @ 208

You are hereby named the LGF Movie Critic... look forward to your next movie or move clip assessment ...

# 219 Swamp Woman

Well, OK, but better not let Mrs. Mike C. hear you say such things. She's a much better shot than I am, and gets downright territorial at times.

Has anyone seen the film out about Hitler's last days?

I was outside looking at my tomatoes when I had this sudden urge to come inside and post on LGF.

It matters not how straight the gate
How charged with punishment the scroll
For I am the master of my fate
I am the captain of my soul

T think Bigel is channeling

@228 Shira

Hi! How are you doing? :)

BG

I talked to SkippyMoment, PollyPrissyPants and Iron Fist this morning on the phone. :)
They are all having a hoot n holler good time.

Swampwoman --

RE: West Coast Meet Up

I wouldn't call it a spiritual experience or anything

but it sure was Boku Fun, Really Fun,

to meet and have drinks & dinner with about 30 friends I had only known online for upto a year or more, a couple years in Jheka's case.

I talked to Skip by cell an hour ago and Skip, Iron Fist, AtlasShrugged and Polly are doing "the Tour" and having fun, Beaches, Bridges, Cliff House, Alcatraz cruise/tour, Twin Peaks, GoldenGate Park.

I will recommend one thing tho for the future, after all the "liquid refreshment," have a firm "designated driver" emcee when the Speechifying commences after dinner. It was difficult to keep 'em to 2 1/2 minutes, but really enjoyable, funny & fun none-theless.

I give Jheka the Godzilla award for best funnyafter dinner moonbat story regarding Protesters and revealing to them he is "the devil". Hilarious, -- ask him for a write up of his Vancouver experience going to a PNAC conference, reference Jheka = the devil.

Lots of great good words & fun.

I did award Three "Bag of doz. lizards" to 1) the person who traveled the farthest -- AtlasShrugged from NYC
2) Toughest Blogger Present -- Iron Fist
3) Most Organized for the event -- Skippy

And it was way way cool to meet
---a couple of Pilots, One of two female pilots who does Airshows in the U.S.
---A really young guy, Lizard by the Bay
---Brenda from Bezerkely
---Joe Katz and his lovely fiancee Jan from "Winds of Change"
---Spouses, Significant others and I brought two kids, one in college in HS along with the lovely and talented Mrs. Havoc

Wish you could have been with us. It was Fun, a Blast and a 1st class venue Scott's.

Some things may never get solved, WHO is that Man/Woman of mystery... Zombie ? ? ?

Your lowly Dog and leg biter,

Havoc
(Julius Ceasar, Act III, Scene ii, Mark Anthony's Speech)

PS-I learned about some more blogs I will try to keep up with too. AtlasShrugged, WindsofChange and his Joe's dayjob, Defense digest,.. and PNAC's site.

#221 BabbaZee

Swampy you Mike C pickin' up hussy you! LOL!

I'm messin' with him because he knows I ain't serious!

GRRR!

SW ;-)

#236 Havoc

Thank you! THANK you for that report! We were beginning to wonder if we had enough bail money to get y'all out of jail. Since apparently the only ones with money spent it to get to the meeting, we were about resigned to never seein' y'all again.

and who brings honor to the family for the MURDER just committed by the Islamofacist brother?

The family of the boyfriend?

And then...and then...and then...

I think I have figured it all out. Islam is just Organized Crime all draped in a religious cloak. Osama is the Teflon Don.

#232 Mike C

Well, OK, but better not let Mrs. Mike C. hear you say such things. She's a much better shot than I am, and gets downright territorial at times.

Well, this is true. I think it would be foolish to risk my life for a man that doesn't even like Krispy Kreme raspberry-filled donuts.

#194 Havoc:

PNAC ... heh :)

Hiya, Quark2! Doing OK. Swamped with work ... which is a good thing, even the week before Passover.

It is no coincidence that the words "Passover" and "panic" begin with the same letter.

#233 Bubble Girl

No but this IS the definitive film -- How Hitler Lost the War

Scroll down and read the description ...

Has exclusive interviews with people who knew him including air marshal Adolph Galland

an amazing and in part frightening look at how close they came.

Havoc @ 245

Thanks for tip... will do..

#243 Jheka

Jheka, you have let us down as a correspondent. You didn't tell us about your speech. You didn't tell us about the parties. You didn't tell us squat!

We will start caling you Fredo.

DAMN! CalLing you Fredo.

Must quit posting when in a snit.

#236 Havoc,

You are a good man Brother, now I'm really bummed that I wasn't there, but like defeating the filthy muslims in the wot I'm coming next time. ;-)

OT-

Four months before he was killed in Afghanistan, Pat Tillman was told that he could opt out of extending his military service because National Football League clubs were clamoring for him.

Agent: NFL Clubs Wanted Tillman to Return

Swampy calling someone Freddo is a might harsh LOL!

#247 SwampWoman,

That's my cue for Jheka, (cranks motor on boat for a fishing trip), lol!

@236 Havoc

Thanx for the lowdown! BTW can you get us some linkys to Joes other jobs/websites? :)

Y'all did good!

Did anybody see this?
[Link: memri.org...]

"/11 Was Not a Good Justification for Enmity Towards Arabs and Muslims; Israel's Hand in the Matter is Clear

"When Israel states that Arabs are terrorists the west quickly follows suit. When Israel says that democracy should be imposed on Arabs by force, echoes of this view begin to manifest [themselves] in some western media outlets and western think tanks. When Israel begins to demonize Iraq and Iran the west goes to war against the former and begins to issue threatening admonishments to the latter...

"What makes matters worse is that some people in the west see that the issues of democracy, good governance and the rule of law are inapplicable in the Arab world, because the absence of the foundations necessary for their implementation is an inherent part of the eastern psyche, and that 'eastern despotism' is the norm in the Arab political system...

"It is true that we do not yet have a Westminster style democracy, but we nevertheless have systems of government that are gradually opening out which do not close the doors to renewal and reinvigoration. It could have been the old Orientalist terminology which led the U.S. to adopt the initiative of 'democratizing' the Middle East from the outside, and to unofficially view Islam as an enemy of democracy…

"But Washington entered actively into the fray after the terrorist events perpetrated on its own soil in 9/11/01. This was not a good justification for its enmity towards Arabs and Muslims. Israel's hand in the matter is clear."

What a band of idiots!

Hey Jheka is O.K.

Anyone born in St. Petersburg Russia, Practices Law in Moonbat Central, San Francisco, and is a Moderate/Conservative Conservative/Moderate

... with a devious sense of Humor

... especially during wacked out protests

Is all right by me.

#252 Nam Vet

That's my cue for Jheka, (cranks motor on boat for a fishing trip), lol!

Nam Vet, a Hero for Goy Gals as well!

@244 Shira

Well it's good to hear you're doing well. :)
I know about that "P" word when it comes to panic! *LOL

(Pssst! BabbaZee! Was that the correct usage of "goy" in a sentence?)

Jehka, I'm pulling your leg y'know buddy, (still cranking the motor). ;-)

Here you go Quark2

Joe Katzman's dayjob

[Link: www.defenseindustrydaily.com...]

#255 Havoc

Is all right by me.

So you're sayin' that you don't want him used as fish bait? Is that what you're sayin'?

#258 SwampWoman,

These people need to teach us the Jewish inuendos, hell we're just rednecks, lol!

Happy Passover, folks.

Charles, here's one for you. Google stomping on the little guys--

"Of Boobles, Froogles, and Googles"

These are businesses that had their trademarks/domain names before MongoGoogle, but the Big Goog is trying to destroy its teeny-weeny competitors.

Saw a news story here in NYC about the Froogles guy. Inspired me to go to his site and give him some business. :-)

#261 SW

That's right, chum.

# 262 'Nam Grunt

Well I for one resent that appelation. I am not a redneck. I'm just an ignorant person that was raised in the rural south. But I've never farmed a day in my life.

#265 Mike C

Well I for one resent that appelation. I am not a redneck. I'm just an ignorant person that was raised in the rural south. But I've never farmed a day in my life.

Hey, I think that was directed at me.

Can you see the back of my neck from there?

#263 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb) - Happy Passover? When did Passover start (and why didn't I get the memo?!)?

#264 Lady

That's right, chum.

Chum: An oily fish ground up and used as bait.

Yeah, that's what I was proposing!

Uh, no. Why, is your neck red ? Get yerself some of that SPF 39 stuff. Beats the hell out of sunburn and sure beats the hell out of skin cancer. Tans are for metrosexuals and other such lowlifes, and I hardly think you're in that catagory. Actually, being down there in the swamps and all, I would think the skeeters would form a protective blanket on every square inch of exposed skin and prevent sunburn. Not true ?

#100 Beagle

When I see a Catholic priest, the first thing which pops into my head is "does he molest boys?" That's not by choice, it just happens because of the last five years of news. Really though, these stories have been around much longer than that.

"Alas, for you scribes & Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut up the kingdom of heaven in people's faces, netiher going in yourselves nor allowing others to go in who want to." - Matthew 23:13

#265 Mike C.,

Please clarify, I don't understand?

# 270 DOP

Funny, but whenever I see a nun, I harken back to my own experience and think to myself "Is she going to come over here and beat the crap out of me ?"

# 271 'Nam

Just a typical (for me) lame attempt at humor. No offense intended.

#233, Bubble Girl:

"Has anyone seen the film out about Hitler's last days?"

Downfall? I have a post about it here.

#236, Havoc: great to meet you and every one else last night!

realwest,,

I almost forgot and I even had a post it, happy belated B'Day Brother, it was Monday, yes?

#273 Mike C.,

No offense taken my friend.;-)

#269 Mike C

Uh, no. Why, is your neck red ? Get yerself some of that SPF 39 stuff. Beats the hell out of sunburn and sure beats the hell out of skin cancer. Tans are for metrosexuals and other such lowlifes, and I hardly think you're in that catagory. Actually, being down there in the swamps and all, I would think the skeeters would form a protective blanket on every square inch of exposed skin and prevent sunburn. Not true ?

No, mosquitos form a very piss poor sunscreen. I have slathered myself with sunscreen forever (vanity, not wanting skin to look like alligator) rather than safety, but still have managed to come up with some basal cell carcinomas.

'Nam Grunt

Thought I saw on this thread (and to damn lazy to scroll...or even look at your recent posts..lol) something about shooting these creep bastard useless child perps and killers..."shoot 'em" thought you said.

Yeah, could do that...but I'd bring back public executions...hanging to be exact. Stand real close folks...that way you can feel the air of flapping feet and flailing legs. Listen real close you'll hear the gurgle and gagging.

Well, lizards and lizardettes, that's about it from here. That ole debil jet lag is catching up with me again, and I'm starting to nod off at the keyboard. If I go downstairs and pretend to watch the movie Mrs Mike C. just put on ("Name of the Rose", w. Sean Connery, yet), I can probably sneak off to sleep before she notices. Carry on - Mike C. out.

#149 Han_Solo

This is just another example... ISLAM cannot survive in a climate where there is a CHOICE of different religions or ways of life.

Do you think too that Muslims arriving in the US, or Europe, where choices are available, will - naturally - become apostates of their faith? Or will fear, pre-empt them, even here?

Swampwoman:

It's worse than that ... I haven't shown you my party pictures ...

#279 Mike C

Well, lizards and lizardettes, that's about it from here. That ole debil jet lag is catching up with me again, and I'm starting to nod off at the keyboard. If I go downstairs and pretend to watch the movie Mrs Mike C. just put on ("Name of the Rose", w. Sean Connery, yet), I can probably sneak off to sleep before she notices. Carry on - Mike C. out.

Stealth sleeping! Good idea!

You must miss the family dreadfully with so much time away from home.

OT:

Charles, you just got a shout out on Fox News for being one of the few credible blogs out there. Indeed.

#281 Jheka

It's worse than that ... I haven't shown you my party pictures ...

I swear to God I'm gonna go to one of the next meetings just to hit you over the head!

#283 YC

Charles, you just got a shout out on Fox News for being one of the few credible blogs out there. Indeed.

Well, damn. Guess I can't strangle Jheka today, then.