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Another movie I will NEVER watch.

At a meeting with Annan, Pollack promised Annan that “it would not be a movie that exploited the U.N. or the subject of terrorism.”

Fine. Don't exploit the UN or the subject of terrorism. Accurately portray the UN and the subject of terrorism. I'd buy a ticket.

“We didn’t want to encumber the film in politics in any way,” Misher said.

Bwaahaaa!

BWAAHAAAHAAAHAAA!

Politics? No, we don't want to encumber our blatantly poltical film in politics in any way.

I'd like to say that I'll boycott Hollywood, but I rarely see their stuff anyway.

I made a vow, the day that sh*theel stepped foot on Iraqi soil to do one long PR job for Saddam, that I would never watch another movie with him in it, especially not ones that dealt in any way with politics. These two excerpts have given me even more reason to stick by that vow.

My sense is, the guy is in liberal Hollywood denial over Islamic Wahhabi terrorism.

Sounds like a good bet. Another case of "Just give me my $10 million and please don't hurt me."

I am waiting for Team America to be released, that is a Hollywood movie I want to see!

"Why then, this current reluctance to call a Muslim terrorist a Muslim terrorist?"

Ask Theo van Gogh - no, wait, you can't.

I saw that movie yesterday, it glorified the UN as the greatest organization ever. Over and over you would hear stuff like "I believe in what the UN can do, resist violence by talking things over, provide justice and equality in the world etc. etc."

There was a plus side - it showed people how terrorism can strike in America the same as in Israel. A bomb blew up a bus full of innocent people and destroyed half the block (but this being Hollywood.. some actor just happened to survive this explosion with barely a scratch... very unrealistic).

Sydney Pollack ... very vile and good in "Changing Lanes"

Speaking of Team America. Wasn't Sean Penn a character in that film. Wasn't he was part of F.A.G.?

Edit my post in #10 -

Just to Clarify, the plus side isn't that terrorism CAN strike in America, the plus side is that people are shown what CAN happen and DOES happen in other parts of the world.

Hollywood Denies Terrorism, Praises Corruption

Hollywood is the very definition of Corruption

Now I know I'm definitely going to want to see again

"Saving Private Ryan"

"The Thin Red Line"

"Band of Brothers" (for the first time)

"The Lost Battalion"

Can anyone else name good movies.

I liked the movie "The Game" - which had Sean Penn in it. But now, I'd automatically avoid anything he appears in. Particularly a "political thriller". Hollywood execs seems to be making a calculated decision that box office gross in countries like France and Germany will make up for the (more than) half of the domestic market that they are alienating.

My new term for the UN:

International House of Bozos

Does any one think Sean Penn would star in a movie that presented the UN in a crappy (and accurate) light?

Personally, I'm surprised the villain in the movie isn't Karl Rove.

Also BEWARE of the new Ridley Scott film "Kingdom of Heaven." I have several links showing how he purposely made it to make the Muslims look good and the Christians look bad. I don't have the time to dig them out right now, but someime soon I will do a big post about it. It's an extremely serious situation.

These people are so full of it.

They can claim to justify gratuitous violence to make a movie more "realistic" and hold themselves out to be "truthseekers" walking some high moral ground but they have no qualms about naming some fictional African country as producing world terrorists in order to not offend any of the countries which DO produce world terrorists.

They are such hypocrites.

With hands over ears and eyes shut tightly, repeat after me:

We do NOT live in an Orwellian age!
We do NOT live in an Orwellian age!
We do NOT live in an Orwellian age!
Viva Sean Penn, Fidel Castro and Che Guevara!

Another reason for not having watched a first run movie in the last 10 years! I also haven't rented a movie in the last 10 years. But I will admit that I did buy the 3 volume DVD of the Rings trilogy as well as Master and Commander (big O'Brian fan).

Having a young 19 month old boy I will admit to watching all the Baby Einstein movies (Sean Penn would be underqualified to star in one of those), as well as most of the Pooh Bear ones and now we have started Bob the Builder. By the way, Bob the Builder has a great slogan you will never here at the UN: "Can we fix it? Yes, we can!"

Penn was good in Fast Times at Ridgemont High, but to be fair he wasn't "acting" in that movie.

#10 Someone took my name!

Any reasonable person has to be able to look at the UN and recognize that it is a useless organization.

If you let everybody join the club, it just turns into a debating society and nothing ever gets accomplished. If we need to be in some kind of multinational club (I don't think we do), then it should be a club of like minded countries. Syria doesn't get to be a member, neither does Cuba, or France for that matter.

Thanks for posting the information... I was going to see the movie but not anymore. I should have known... Sean Penn was a big clue.

Because of the 9/11 attacks by Middle Eastern terrorists in 2001, Misher didn’t want to make the terrorists in his movie Middle Eastern. “We didn’t want to encumber the film in politics in any way,” Misher said. So now the assassination plot involves a fictional African country called Matobo. Matobo — great name.

yeah but we just loved mikey moores movie.

OT:

hezblah is looking to stir up some trouble

I considered watching Farenheit 9/11 so I could rebut it with specifics...but I could not bring myself to pay money of which even a small portion would go to Mickie Moron and his ilk.

#16 mentat - We were brothers by Mel Gibson is a good flick. And The Incredibles for the kiddies.

As for good movies - I saw 'Shaolin Soccer' on DVD. It was one of those stupid, but VERY funny movies. The director Stephen Chow just released 'Kung Fu Hustle' - which looks equally silly, yet again very funny. I'm looking forward to seeing it.

You seen nothing yet...wait until hollowood makes the palestinian saint a movie of the life and loves of murdering terrorist arafat, starring ed asner...they better hurry old ed is getting to the point of being shipped to paris, fwance, ala the sewer rat arafat.

Oops - edit time - #16 Manker. Sorry 'bout that.

#29 IrishJean

Do you mean "We Were Soldiers"? Yeah, I'd definently recommend that. As well as "Enemy at the Gates."

I'm surprised they didn't put Jane Fonda in this too. If it weren't for Hollywoods' vicious anti-American passions, losers like Penn would never get movie roles for sucking up to monsters like Saddam Hussein. The State department should have revoked his passport and made him stay in Iraq.

My husband and I can't wait to see Team America.

#29 IrishJean

Thanks for calling me a kiddie. ;-)

#33 Targetpractice - yup - you're right. And that's the second edit I've had to do on that post...sheesh.
Enemy at the Gate was great.

Glad I read all this, saves me even more money.
Thanks for the info on "Kingdom of Heaven," too, Zombie.

Lowandslow - well, I liked it too. Finding Nemo was good also.

#34

Whenever people start talking about them not getting roles, the Penn types start yelling MCCARTHYISM, BLACKLIST, I REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED TO MY DAD...

El Cid wrote:
wait until hollowood makes the palestinian saint

There have already been several plays about the holy blessed St. Pancake. Only a matter of time till Our Lady of IHOP gets a movie. Perhaps a musical like Evita:

Don't cry for me Lefty Moonbats
Just pass along the syrup
...

Government Qualifications vs Hollywood

The qualifications of actors vs. OUR government by Cindy OsborneThe Hollywood group is at it again. Holding antiwar rallies, screaming about the Bush Administration, running ads in major newspapers, defaming the President and his Cabinet every chance they get, to anyone and everyone who will listen. They publicly defile them and call them names like "stupid," "morons," and "idiots." Jessica Lang went so far as to tell a crowd in Spain that she hates President Bush and is embarrassed to be an American. So, just how ignorant are these people who are running the country? Let's look at the biographies of these "stupid," "ignorant," "moronic" leaders, and then at the celebrities who are castigating them: President George W. Bush: Received a Bachelors Degree from Yale University and an MBA from Harvard Business School. He served as an F-102 pilot for the Texas Air National Guard. He began his career in the oil and gas business in Midland in 1975 and worked in the energy industry until 1986. He was elected Governor on November 8, 1994, with 53.5 percent of the vote. In a historic reelection victory, he became the first Texas Governor to be elected to consecutive four-year terms on November 3, 1998 winning 68.6 percent of the vote. In 1998 Governor Bush won 49 percent of the Hispanic vote, 27 percent of the African-American vote, 27 percent of Democrats and 65 percent of women. He won more Texas counties, 240 of 254, than any modern Republican other that Richard Nixon in 1972 and is the first Republican gubernatorial candidate to win the heavily Hispanic and Democratic border counties of El Paso, Cameron and Hidalgo. (Someone began circulating a false story about his I.Q. being lower than any other President. If you believed it, you might want to go to URBANLEGENDS.COM and see the truth.)Vice President Dick Cheney earned a B.A. in 1965 and a M.A. in 1966, both in political science. Two years later, he won an American Political Science Association congressional fellowship. One of Vice President Cheney's primary duties is to share with individuals, members of Congress and foreign leaders, President Bush's vision to strengthen our economy, secure our homeland and win the War on Terrorism. In his official role as President of the Senate, Vice President Cheney regularly goes to Capital Hill to meet with Senators and members of the House of Representatives to work on the Administration's legislative goals. In his travels as Vice President, he has seen first hand the great demands the war on terrorism is placing on the men and women of our military, and he is proud of the tremendous job they are doing for the United States of America.

How far Hollywood >has sunk since "Black Sunday."

Anybody see the Dennis Quaid movie 'Savior'? It is supposed to be good.

The film Zombie mentioned:

Sir Ridley Scott, the Oscar-nominated director, was savaged by senior British academics last night over his forthcoming film which they say "distorts" the history of the Crusades to portray Arabs in a favourable light.

Academics, ... including Professor Jonathan Riley-Smith, Britain's leading authority on the Crusades - attacked the plot of Kingdom of Heaven, describing it as "rubbish", "ridiculous", "complete fiction" and "dangerous to Arab relations".

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

Caught brief moments of the self-regarding Sydney Pollack talking about the film with Charlie, "Lap-Dancer to the Stars" Rose. If you love the UN, you'll love this movie.

National Security Advisor CondoleezzaRice earned her Bachelor's Degree in Political Science, Cum Laude and Phi Beta Kappa, from the University of Denver in 1974; her Master's from the University of Notre Dame in 1975; and her Ph.D. from the Graduate School of International Studies at the University of Denver in 1981. (Note: Rice enrolled at the University of Denver at the age of 15, graduating at 19 with a Bachelor's Degree in Political Science (Cum Laude). She earned a Master's Degree at the University of Notre Dame and a Doctorate from the University of Denver's Graduate School of International Studies. Both of her advanced degrees are also in Political Science.) She is a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences and has been awarded Honorary Doctorates from Morehouse College in 1991, the University of Alabama in 1994, and the University of Notre Dame in 1995. At Stanford, she has been a member of the Center for International Security and Arms Control, a Senior Fellow of the Institute for International Studies, and a Fellow (by courtesy) of the Hoover Institution. Her books include Germany Unified and Europe Transformed (1995) with Philip Zelikow, The Gorbachev Era (1986) with Alexander Dallin, and Uncertain Allegiance: The Soviet Union and the Czechoslovak Army (1984). She also has written numerous articles on Soviet and East European foreign and defense policy, and has addressed audiences in settings ranging from the U.S. Ambassador's Residence in Moscow to the Commonwealth Club to the 1992 and 2000 Republican National Conventions. From 1989 through March 1991, the period of German reunification and the final days of the Soviet Union, she served in the Bush Administration as Director, and then Senior Director, of Soviet and East European Affairs in the National Security Council, and a Special Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs. In 1986, while an international affairs fellow of the Council on Foreign Relations, she served as Special Assistant to the Director of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. In 1997, she served on the Federal Advisory Committee on Gender -- Integrated Training in the Military. She was a member of the boards of directors for the Chevron Corporation, the Charles Schwab Corporation, the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation, the University of Notre Dame, the International Advisory Council of J.P. Morgan and the San Francisco Symphony Board of Governors. She was a Founding Board member of the Center for a New Generation, an educational support fund for schools in East Palo Alto and East Menlo Park, California and was Vice President of the Boys and Girls Club of the Peninsula. In addition, her past board service has encompassed such organizations as Transamerica Corporation, Hewlett Packard, the Carnegie Corporation, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, The Rand Corporation, the National Council for Soviet and East European Studies, the Mid-Peninsula Urban Coalition and KQED, public broadcasting for San Francisco. Born November 14, 1954 in Birmingham, Alabama, she earned her bachelor's degree in political science, cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa, from the University of Denver in 1974; her Master's from the University of Notre Dame in 1975; and her Ph.D. from the Graduate School of International Studies at the University of Denver in 1981. She is a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences and has been awarded Honorary Doctorates from Morehouse College in 1991, the University of Alabama in 1994, and the University of Notre Dame in 1995. She resides in Washington, D.C.

#41 Don't forget the Gipper had an Economics degree.

And algore flunked out of a seminary.

#34 cimom

I'm surprised they didn't put Jane Fonda in this too

Ummm, jane is being saved for a movie to be released in 2006 and re-released in 2008, co-starring john kerry. The movie title is still being worked on...but the word is, it will be called...'Treasonable Acts', subtitled 'Khmer, I have some hats for you'...it's a comedy...those two zany kids...

Just like "Sum of All Fears", Arabs to Nazi(not even Soviet) Russians! And the Mudslime Arabs are always crying about the Zionists controling Hollywood ever since their fantasy "Jenin, Jenin" was blown out of the Oscars.
By the way, I started a thread on the IMDb discussion board for the movie: Politically Correct Lies and Hollywood Fantasy !

So who are these celebrities? What is their education? What is their experience in affairs of State or in National Security? While I will defend to the death their right to express their opinions, I think that if they are going to call into question the intelligence of our leaders, we should also have all the facts on their eduction and background:Barbara Streisand : Completed high school Career: Singing and actingCher: Dropped out of school in 9th grade. Career: Singing and actingMartin Sheen Flunked exam to enter University of Dayton. Career: ActingJessica Lange Dropped out college mid-freshman year. Career: ActingAlec Baldwin Dropped out of George Washington U. after scandal Career: ActingJulia Roberts Completed high school Career: ActingSean Penn Completed High school Career: ActingSusan Sarandon Degree in Drama from Catholic University of America in Washington, D.C. Career: ActingEd Asner Completed High school Career: ActingGeorge Clooney Dropped out of University of Kentucky Career: ActingMichael Moore Dropped out first year University of Michigan. Career: Movie DirectorSarah Jessica Parker: Completed High School Career: ActingJennifer Anniston: Completed High School Career: ActingMike Farrell Completed High school Career: ActingJaneane Garofelo Dropped out of College. Career: Stand up comedienneLarry Hagman Attended Bard College for one year. Career: ActingWhile comparing the education and experience of these two groups, we should also remember that President Bush and his cabinet are briefed daily, even hourly, on the War on Terror and threats to our security. They are privy to information gathered around the world concerning the Middle East, the threats to America, the intentions of terrorists and terrorist-supporting governments. They are in constant communication with the CIA, the FBI, Interpol, NATO, The United Nations, our own military, and that of our allies around the world. We cannot simply believe that we have full knowledge of the threats because we watch CNN. We cannot believe that we are in any way as informed as our leaders. These celebrities have no intelligence-gathering agents, no fact-finding groups, no insight into the minds of those who would destroy our country. They only have a deep seated hatred for all things Republican. By nature, and no one knows quite why, the Hollywood elitists detest Conservative views and anything that supports or uplifts the United States of America. The silence was deafening from the Left when Bill Clinton bombed a pharmaceutical factory outside of Khartoum, or when he attacked the Bosnian Serbs in 1995 and 1999. He bombed Serbia itself to get Slobodan Milosevic out of Kosovo, and not a single peace rally was held. When our Rangers were ambushed in Somalia and 18 young American lives were lost, not a peep was heard from Hollywood. Yet now, after our nation has been attacked on its own soil, after 3,000 Americans were killed by freedom-hating terrorists while going about their routine lives, they want to hold rallies against the war. Why the change? Because an honest, God-fearing Republican sits in the White House. Another irony is that in 1987, when Ronald Reagan was in office, the Hollywood group aligned themselves with disarmament groups like SANE, FREEZE and PEACE ACTION, urging our own government to disarm and freeze the manufacturing of any further nuclear weapons, in order to promote world peace. It is curious that now, even after we have heard all the evidence that Saddam Hussein has chemical, biological and is very close to obtaining nuclear weapons, their is no cry from this group for HIM to disarm. They believe we should leave him alone in his quest for these weapons of mass destruction, even though it is certain that these deadly weapons will eventually be used against us in our own cities.So why the hype out of Hollywood?

"but the word is, it will be called...'Treasonable Acts', subtitled 'Khmer, I have some hats for you'...it's a comedy...those two zany kids..."
And Joseph Wilson will play the undercover CIA operative.

Charlie, "Lap-Dancer to the Stars" Rose

BWahahahahahah!

I got "roped" into seeing this bullshit movie last night when my wife acceped an invite to "go to the movies" with a couple of neighbor couples. Save your quarter and do something comparitively educational like watching road runner cartoon reruns. At least they have a coherant plot. I had to decline the offer to grab a bite or drink after the movie so as not to have to explain to political illiterates what the problems with this movie were and the reasons the star lead is in reality a traitor.

The reworking of the script was not too subtle. I almost walked out when the bus blew up. Also the final seen is almost too funny when the female lead who is twice identified as an American citizen is "deported".

Could these celebrities believe that since they draw such astronomical salaries, they are entitled to also determine the course of our Nation? That they can make viable decisions concerning war and peace? Did Michael Moore have the backing of the Nation when he recently thanked France, on our behalf, for being a "good enough friend to tell us we were wrong"? I know for certain he was not speaking for me. Does Sean Penn fancy himself a Diplomat, in going to Iraq when we are just weeks away from war? Does he believe that his High School Diploma gives him the knowledge (and the right) to go to a country that is controlled by a maniacal dictator, and speak on behalf of the American people? Or is it the fact that he pulls in more money per year than the average American worker will see in a lifetime? Does his bank account give him clout?The ultimate irony is that many of these celebrities have made a shambles of their own lives, with drug abuse, alcoholism, numerous marriages and divorces, scrapes with the law, publicized temper tantrums, etc. How dare they pretend to know what is best for an entire nation! What is even more bizarre is how many people in this country will listen and accept their views, simply because they liked them in a certain movie, or have fond memories of an old television sitcom! It is time for us, as citizens of the United States, to educate ourselves about the world around us. If future generations are going to enjoy the freedoms that our forefathers bequeathed us, if they are ever to know peace in their own country and their world, to live without fear of terrorism striking in their own cities, we must assure that this nation remains strong. We must make certain that those who would destroy us are made aware of the severe consequences that will befall them. Yes, it is a wonderful dream to sit down with dictators and terrorists and join hands, singing Cumbaya and talking of world peace. But it is not real. We did not stop Adolf Hitler from taking over the entire continent of Europe by simply talking to him. We sent our best and brightest, with the strength and determination that this Country is known for, and defeated the Nazi regime. President John F. Kennedy did not stop the Soviet ships from unloading their nuclear missiles in Cuba in 1962 with mere words. He stopped them with action, and threat of immediate war if the ships did not turn around. We did not end the Cold War with conferences. It ended with the strong belief of President Ronald Reagan... PEACE through STRENGTH.

got that off my chest

s'helluva chest, atlas LOL!

#55 atlas
Glad to be here for you.

well done, atlas!

51 IrishJean

Joseph Wilson will play the undercover CIA operative

Oooo, Good one...love it. Featured song:

Yellow cake
Yellow cake
Baker's man
Bake me that yellow cake
As fast as you can.
Roll it and Pat it
and mark it with V
And put it in the oven for valerie and me.

Headline News (CNN) had a brief blurb about the Code Pink woman who was blown up by her beloved Salafists while documenting all the Iraqi civilians killed by the US in Iraq. Described her as "a cross between Mother Teresa and Buffy the Vampire Slayer".

The Patriot - Mel Gibson

If enough of these movies fail to have a sufficient market to make a profit, then --and probably only then --they will get the message.

There is something patronizing about all this political correctness --that certain groups have to be "protected" from their OWN realities so as to not offend them.

Even the idea that attributes terrorism to Arabs isn't the reality. It is Islam --because they are coming out of Indonesia, Malaysia, Phillipines, Bangladesh just to name a few others.

They are NOT just Arabs they are Muslim.

Trouble is Nancy,
with such topflight talent like Penn, pollack and Kidman, it will be a success. Inspite of their politics, they are great at their craft!

#59 Elcid

"Yellow cake
Yellow cake
Baker's man "

Hmm, may need a rewrite on the "Baker's man." What do you think - Niger's man, or Saddam's man?

#16 manker

If you want to see a historical movie about the Protestant Reformation, I would recommend "Luther". Not sure if Catholics would be wild about it, but I liked it. It didn't get a lot of attention, and I don't think it made it to many theaters. I had to go to two different video rental places to find it. Amazon review is better at describing it than I am.

Robert,
but the bad guy in the Patriot were English, so that's okay!

I shouldn't have looked at altasshrugged blog, now all I can think of is how good looking she is.

15 killed in dual blasts near Baghdad mosque

The first bomb exploded in front of an ice cream shop in the western al-Shoulah district, police Maj. Mousa Abdul Karim said. As people rushed to assist the wounded, a second bomb detonated within a few minutes, he said.

Twin Car Bombs Kill 7 in Iraqi Town of Tikrit

One bomber drove into the compound and blew up his vehicle among a crowd of policemen, killing several, according to accounts provided by witnesses to a reporter working for Reuters.
As police and passers-by rushed to help those hit in the blast, a second car bomber entered the compound and detonated his vehicle, the witnesses said.

IRA trains well. One actor's freedom fighter is another's favorite charity.

Patrick at Clarity and Resolve (Try Clarityandresolve.com ) has a good post about Maggie Gyllenhaall an actress with a bleeding heart for murderous asses.

Hollyweird is a waste of talent. Movies used to be such fun, such wonderful escapes. What the hell happened?

Dan Patterson

Atlas, thanks.

Let's face it, when the Left fails to be critical of Islam while vilifying America (yes, you Sean Penn), they have choosen sides. And it's clear as day that it's not our side that they have choosen.

[Link: libertyandculture.blogspot.com...]

64 IrishJean

Hmm, may need a rewrite on the "Baker's man." What do you think - Niger's man, or Saddam's man?

Wow...tough call on those two...but you are correct, as of now, I lean...Niger...but could be persuaded to saddam...:).

"We didn’t want to encumber the film in politics in any way"

Misha misspoke. What he meant to say was "We don't want to encomber our political film with realism in any way"

Sean Penn is a complete asshole.

Yup ... another Sum of All Frauds.

BTW, anyone remember the truly horrificly godawful film "Swordfish" where the somewhat psychotic bad guy (played by Travolta) turns out to be an unhinged ex-Mossad agent? I don't remember any protests about that.

#66 Jakester

Not sure about your point. Someone asked about good movies...

By the way did John Bond ever fight the commies.

Does anyone remember this movie from 1996:
[Link: www.imdb.com...]

In this movie an Islamic terrorist hijacks a jet with plans to turn it into a bomb with WMDs. The terrorist makes it clear that he is doing the will of Allah. Now, after 9/11, this movie could not be made. What has changed?

I think it is clear. Hollywood doesn’t want to support our war effort.

From the JWR link above:

Funny how they've never worried about changing the ethnicity of Italian Americans in all the gangster/Mafia movies they made.

Great analogy.

OT

Update to earlier tornado outlook tomorrow southern Oklahoma/SW Arkansas/western LA/North Central and NE Texas.

MODERATE RISK OF TORNADOES STILL PREDICTED (JUST NOT BY SPC) TOMORROW!

BTW, Storm Prediction Center 1730 Z (1230 PM CDT) SWODY2 update still calls for only a SLIGHT RISK for severe storms in Southern Plains tomorrow, but I'm still thinking a MODERATE RISK between Waco, Denton and Huntsville.

SPC worrieds about clouds from expected storms early tomorrow, and limited moisture return due to Canadian airmass which has swept the Gulf. But 12Z NAM similar to 6Z NAM showing surface dewpoints above 16^oC as far north as Oklahoma City.

NAM still suggests storms firing along the dryline late afternoon however, with sufficient sunlight to to warm surface temperatures to above 25^oC (upper 70s/lower 80sF), generating CAPE in excess of 2000 Joules/Kg ahead of the dryline from southern Oklahoma to near the San Antonio-New Braunfels-San Marcos-Austin-Round Rock metroplex, with 50 to 70 knots deep layer shear which will initially support supercells. Now, 2000 J/Kg is pretty cool, but it isn't mega-impressive (like the over 7000 J/Kg in the Jarrell, TX area the day an F-5 tornado hit late May, 1997), but storm relative helicity will range from a darn impressive 300 m²s^-2 in Southeast Texas to an outrageous 500+ J/Kg near Texarkana! The only (slightly) limiting factor for tornadoes is the slightly less than optimum humidity, which besides reducing CAPE somewhat also means somewhat higher cloud bases. NAM point soundings suggest cloud bases near 900 meters. That isn't a huge negative, but it is less than optimum. Just looking at the Tyler, TX forecast skew-T for 7pm CDT tomorrow, about the time storms have initiated. SE surface winds at 25 knots, southerly winds at 30 knots at 500 m, southwest winds at 30 knots at 1 km, with west winds near 40 knots at 3 km.

Could be impressive.

BTW, NAM shows the severe weather outbreak spreading east, and hititng the Central Gulf Coast states (eastern LA, MS, AL, western FL) through Tuesday.

well one could argue African terrorists aren't such a bad choice:

a) because there are African terrorists, Islamists who work for Al Queda, from Somalia, Algeria, Sudan and other places - I mean some of the largest Al Queda attacks have taken place in Africa, and the US and Iraqi military have African Al Queda fighters in Iraq

b) we also have countries in Africa run by Islamists - see the government of Sudan and you have Islamist groups trying to take control of countries, funded or helped by Al Queda and others

c) because the Islamists are trying to take over the African continent one country at a time

However I imagine the movie is mute as to whether this African country is run by Islamists or not or was undergoing the kind of turmoil as in Somalia - too bad - that would have been a good message...

I think some of this has to do with marketing. There are an estimated 1B Muslims. If 10M of them see the movie at an average ticket price of $3 (overseas ticket prices are lower), we're looking at $30M of ticket revenues. Broadcast rights are another revenue source. The odds of a Muslim country showing on TV a movie portraying Muslims as terrorists are slim to none. To take an wild guess, something like $50M - in total - of revenues from Muslim countries are at stake. I can see why they'd try to avoid writing Muslim terrorists into the script.

This is the first description I've heard of the film. No wonder my annoying Deaniac co-worker loved it.

Up until at least several years ago (I haven't kept up, may still be the case), John Wayne was listed in polls as favorite actor. Even many years after his death. I remember seeing polls from at least as late as the 90's. There's a reason.

#82 Zhang Fei

You're destroying my hopes that Hollywood will go bankrupt making political movies.

The book plot of "From Russia with Love" featured Bond against the Russian SMERSH, but was altered in the movie to instead have SPECTRE as the villains.

#78

Ah yes, Executive Decision. I remember seeing that again for the first time in years on HBO the other night. And my first thought upon hearing the lines about Allah and "striking at the heart of the infidels" was something similar to "The Left must hate this movie with a passion." It probably rates up there next to True Lies on their list of un-PC movies.

What's really interesting to read is one of the earlier drafts of the Executive Decision script, from back in '91.

http://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/Executive_Decis ion.pdf

The most telling difference is how Yaffa goes from approving Hassan's plan and wishing him luck in his "victory" in the early script to a peace-lover who tries to talk Hassan into stopping his suicide run on the US in the final product.

OT: Re: 2001: Favorite Movie Star of All Time - John Wayne (Gallup/USPS) and for past few years, John Wayne #7 out of 10 (Harris Interactive) Could you imagine him going to meet with the enemy like Sean Penn? Americans still have some sense. Hopefully, the film will do poorly.

Sean Penn is the mental midget who spent a couple of hundred thousand dollars running full page ads in the NY Times & Washington Post telling us how stupid President Bush is and how stupid we are for believing all his lies.

#88 Baldy

John Wayne at the peak of his health vs. Sean Penn, now that would be worth watching! John Wayne wouldn't even have to punch him. He'd just smack him on top of the head and drive him into the ground!

Some PC stupid little wanker had my post on IMDb's discussion board for "The Interpreter" yanked! He said I was lying about the original plot and I was a racist!

OT,

but Aussie sheik blames victims for rape--

[Link: smh.com.au...]

"A victim of rape every minute somewhere in the world. Why? No one to blame but herself. She displayed her beauty to the entire world. She degraded herself by being an object of sexual desire and thus becoming vulnerable to man who looks at her for gratification of his sexual urge.

Was Saddam Hussein the last politician Sean Penn promoted, or did he do some work for John Kerry as well?

#89

After he wrote that piece of trash, he probably spent a while hitting himself in the head with a shoe and saying "That's my skull! I'm so wasted!"

Sounds like a really shitty movie. I'm glad that I didn't waste 45 minutes downloading it.

:-)

Should we really expect all that much from an actor who played the same role twice (Sam and Spicoli) and his most famous line is ___?

#96

I nominate for his most famous line "I don't know."

#16 manker

Can anyone else name good movies.

A Day in September -- documentary about 1972 Olympics massacre
Sword of Gideon -- more or less true story of the black ops Israeli team that hunted down several of the Black September terrorists, based on the book Vengeance
Vengeance -- a remake of the above, currently in production, by Steven Spielburg (who also did Saving Private Ryan and Schindler's List)

The most un-PC Hollywood movie (vis a vis the Arabs) is

Rules of Engagement

sloppy google search turns up this whine specimen

RULES OF ENGAGEMENT: A CASE STUDY OF ARAB-MUSLIM’S DEMONIZATION:

Once again Arab-Muslims are being demonized by Hollywood. This time the film is Rules of Engagement, a box-office hit starring Tommy Lee Jones and Samuel Jackson. Last weekend it took $ 8 million at movie theatres, meaning that, it has already grossed $ 43 million in 17 days.

The film portrays Arab-Muslims as bloodthirsty terrorists. The American-Arab anti-discrimination committee (ADC) has called for protests against the film, which it describes as “Probably the most vicious anti-Arab racist film ever made by a major Hollywood major studio”. Paramount Pictures produced this film.

97 Apu Pibat -

Yeah, I was thinking of - "All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine." but there's a Java script to stop a direct link. Don't try it - Oh, well.

#92, condor

OT,

but Aussie sheik blames victims for rape--

Where 'ya been?

#49 Jakester

By the way, I started a thread on the IMDb discussion board for the movie:

What did you say over there? They deleted your post.

#99 AW,

Paramount could have saved on the shooing of the film and taken some footage from the recent Intifada showing Arab-Musilms doing just that in real life. Would have made the film a documentary as well.

#98 abolitionist

cool, I'll have to check those out.

Also I forgot the name of the movie. But it's based off a book.

It's about the Yom Kipur war, where it shows what it was like for a tanker in the golan. (It's in Hebrew).

By the way did John Bond ever fight the commies.

He never went up against the Soviet regime directly that I remember. It was always a renegade Soviet General that was against the status quo of détente and wanted an all out war against the west.

#16 maker

Can anyone else name good movies.

A Day in September -- documentary about the kidnapping/killing of Israeli athletes at 1972 Olympics, at Munich, by Black September group
Sword of Gideon -- more or less true story of the black ops team that Israel sent to hunt down several known terrorists, including some responsible for the '72 Olympics massacre; based on the book Vengeance
Vengeance -- remake of the above, currently in production, by Steven Spielberg, who also did Saving Private Ryan, and Schindler's List

"No politics? Almost every movie to come out of Hollywood in the last fifteen years has had a leftist political bent. Who is he kidding? ..."

Sorry, but I must demur. It's more like 75 years. Hollywood has been spewing the same old leftwing propaganda of old lies and distortions since the 1930's. Capitalism and free-trade = evil; socialism and touchy/feeling redistribution of income = goodness; Anyone who hates Americans = good; Anyone who likes Americans =evil.

Even with it all, there are some movies that are fun. We saw a several in fact over the last weeks that didn't trip my propaganda meter which is exquisitely sensitive: "Miss Congeniality 2" (Silly, funny moments, great chemistry between Sandra Bullock and Regina King); "Sahara" (Who cares if the plot was improbable in the extreme, there was fantastic scenery, a very good looking hero, and the villain was French.); "Beauty Shop" (Queen Latifah's smile should be patented. Some amusing dialogue between the young stylists and their customers.); and "The Upside of Anger" (Short review. Every PC cliché you ever learned to hate was in there. I give Kevin Costner, not my favorite actor, credit. He looked decidedly embarrassed to be in this turkey.)

You can save yourself some time if you make a mental list of actors and actresses whose movies you will not pay to see.

On my list are the old standards like, Tim Robbins, Susan Sarandan, Eric Baldwin, Jane Fonda (should have been put up against the wall about four face lifts ago), Sean Penn, Richard Gere (it's such a shame, he's so adorable), Nicole Kidman (she's Australian, what's she doing shooting her mouth off?), Jessica Lange, Julia Roberts (reputed IQ lower than Lucy, the Chimp), Whoopie Goldberg, Chevy Chase, Ed Asner etc.

Surely, I've forgotten some, but when I see their names in the movie ads, I'll remember.

I've been convinced for years, that Sean Penn is an idiot savant. If there were no such things as movies or the stage, I am certain Mr. Penn would reside in a home for adults with special needs.

Sorry for double post. Went to check one title for accuracy before posting, and on return to LGF, my comments entry was blanked. Thot it went poof, so I re-entered.

anyone watch 24 on Fox? wonder what the people behind thats political slant is. seen most of the episodes, seems to be fair and they aren't avoiding islamic terrorist.

I'm just shocked that they didn't make the evil bad terrorists out to be some Jesusland country bumpkin militia types. Oh, now I know why. They wanted the movie to seem real, and the producers figured it was too far a stretch for people to believe that a refined beautiful woman like Nicole Kidman could actually interpret good ol' boy dialect.

Thanks for the heads up -- I was going to see it with my kid.

Saved me the $16.

BUT -- It should be noted that the Cold War was RARELY dealt with honestly. Most spy films -- such as the Bond films -- dealt with absurd renegades rather than the KGB.

Remember SPECTRE, THRUSH, and CHAOS? Rich guys spreading murder and mayhem for fun and profit?

No such organization ever existed, until the Islamists, but...

There were rare exceptions -- Frankenheimer's original "Manchurian Candidate" comes to mind -- but the enemy escaped Hollywood's censure until the Cold War (World War III) was over.

There still has never been a film about the Commuist Party of the USA. Absurd narcissistic crooks as well as traitors.

This subject is very personal to me. I was expelled from the American Film Institute for anti-Communism.

I saw the flick last night. It definitely served the LLL Dhimmiwood agenda: Quiet diplomacy of words, if we just understood each other we'd all get along, force is morally inferior to negotiation, no need to be afraid of international criminal courts, UN stops genocide, bla bla bla. Definitely found it amusing that it opened now in the midst of oil for food, sex slavery, and Bolton nomination.

Aside from that the film was passable. Spent the whole time wondering if Kidman's face will ever recover from all that botox.

mardukhai: It should be noted that the Cold War was RARELY dealt with honestly. Most spy films -- such as the Bond films -- dealt with absurd renegades rather than the KGB.

Remember SPECTRE, THRUSH, and CHAOS? Rich guys spreading murder and mayhem for fun and profit?

That's true - most of the James Bond films were about evil businessmen killing people for fun and profit. You have to remember that they have to cater to the European markets as well, where to be anti-Communist was viewed as simplistic in the extreme.

I can't even watch Law & Order anymore because I'm sick of the Bush bashing.

ZF: That's true - most of the James Bond films were about evil businessmen killing people for fun and profit.

On the other hand, I think it was understood that the bad guys in the movies were really stand-ins for the Soviets. Why weren't the Soviets depicted as the Soviets? Perhaps it was to lighten the tone of the movies.

Zombie/Nancy

damn and i was really hoping that would be a good movie..stil gonna see it just to be sure.

zombie can't wait to see your big post about it

So what's the fuss about?!

It's just another fashion show where the participants get to show off their new asshats complete with stylish cheekmuffs.

JFM

Hell, I was going to avoid it simply because Sean Penn was in it.

So, when Penn played a coke-snorting traitor in THE FALCON AND THE SNOWMAN, was he really acting?

Kurt Loder had a good one too.

Kevin Misher, Nicole Kidman, and Sean Penn...

Start here: Total International Attacks by Region, 1998-2003

That was from here: Patterns of Global Terrorism 2003
(Note: apparently the 2004 report is not out yet.)

Anyway, perhaps humble Low and Ignorant Insane swamp hermit me could better understand your motive and/or reasoning for changing the storyline from Middle Eastern Terrorists to African Terrorists, if you could explain why y'all chose African Terrorists over Latin American Terrorists or Western Europe Terrorists or Asian Terrorists. Clearly, the above chart shows much more Terrorist activity (in the 1998-2003 timeline) in Latin America or in Asia than in Africa. Heck, there was more Terrorist activity in Western Europe than in Africa during the same timeline!?!

Y'alls change in the storyline seems to be unfairly picking on, and focused on Blacks, especially after doing some research on Terrorist Activity since 1981

Since much of the International Terrorist activity seems to stem from Radical Islamic movements in the Middle East, then why shift such an obvious fact from the Middle East to Africa?!? Such a shift seems to border on racism at best, and...and...and whatever you want to call it at worse. BTW, call it what you wish, but clearly y'all have changed the storyline for more motives and/or reasons that just this rather weak explanation: "We didn't want to encumber the film in politics in any way"

KårmiÇømmünîs&dagge r;

PS...change that last "that" to a 'than', if you can find the "that" that is buried under yore Traitorous Political Agenda...so to speak gently.

KårmiÇømmünîs† ;

Kinda makes "the art of War" seem like Citizen Kane.

Plot Summary for
The Art of War (2000/I)

Shaw is an operative for the United Nations' covert dirty-tricks squad, using espionage and quasi-ethical tactics to secure peace and cooperation. When a shipping container full of dead Vietnamese refugees turns up on the docks and China's ambassador is gunned down at a dinner celebrating a new trade agreement with China and the US, Shaw is framed for the murder and must evade the FBI and Triad gangsters to find out what is really going on.

Don't tell humble me...the Terrorist/s is/are 'White'?!? Figures, huh...so to speak of a Traitorous Political Agenda.

Zombie is quite right about 'Kingdom of Heaven'. A friend of mine has been working on it in post-production. He says the film's editor told him it had been substantially re-cut so as not to offend muslim sensibilities. Saladin and the muslims are all portrayed as noble and humane while the evil Knights charge around hacking down poor innocent muslims and yelling stuff like 'Kill a muslim and go to Heaven!'

You know, just like it says in the Bible.

I usually like Ridley Scott movies (though 'Gladiator' is overrated IMHO) but I will wait for this one to turn up on network TV rather than pay to see it. I suggest LFGers avoid it and let everyone they know this is historically innaccurate PC bullsh*t.

BTW when I checked imdb.com the other day, muslims were already using the discussion boards on this movie to push their agendas and da'wa. And anyone who disagreed was - of course - a 'racist'!

i would return to any Prison here on the Planet Earth, if i am guaranteed either Kevin Misher, Nicole Kidman, or Sean Penn as my cellmate...

KårmiÇømmünîs† ;
Former Prison Pimp

Jheka: Not to mention the crapfest that was "The Little Drummer Girl." Diane Keaton gets brainwashed by evil Mossad, and betrays her noble Pali "freedom fighter" lover.

Complete dreck - but what can you expect from a movie based on a John LeCarre novel? The major point of his Cold War novels was that there was no big difference between the USSR and the West.

johnconor: that sucks! sevarl firensd and I are plannign to see it on opneing night. I'll report back to you guys if its worth seeing. the tarialer seemd really cool and amde it seem like the christians migth come off well. (though they were undiebably bad)

PIMF "undiebably bad at some poitns"

I saw the movie last night (*cough* on my computer *cough*) and it was well made and largely silly.

Ms. Kidman played, well, herself: A starry-eyed idealistic liberal who, with the purest of intentions and a heart of the whitest, purest, driven snow, gave herself fully to an organization that is, in substance and deed, diametrically opposed to its own founding charter. [There should be an award for the Whitest White Woman. She would surely win.]

Mr. Penn was...well...is he always so emotionally damaged in films? I think this is the first time I have seen him in a movie.

The schism between the movie's 'liberal' view of the UN and everyone else's is of a kind that cannot be mended or made harmonious. That thousands upon thousands have died under the watchful eye of the UN is meaningless to the producers, for the UN speaks about things in a lofty manner and this, like a Siren song, captivates and holds the liberal, rendering him impervious to the actual acts of the UN, or any related reality around him.

That the UN was, effectively, the bitch of Saddam Hussein, the Butcher of Baghdad, under Oil for Food, is completely uninteresting to them. That such freedom-loving, democratic, and able luminaries as Sudan, Libya, Cuba, and China sit on Human Rights committees is additionally uninteresting to them. That America was once voted off the Human Rights Committee, to the UN epigone, speaks to the iniquity of the United States, not the ignobleness and immorality of the UN and its members.

On top of the sad (for lack of better word) portrayal of an institutionally inviable and corrupt institution, the villian was oh so Milquetoast. The contrast between the movie portrayal of a 3rd world dictator and the reality of same is so laughable as to engender loss of lung tissue. This thug woke up with concern about the opinion of the UN and true fear of the International Criminal Court. No dictator or thug worth his salt cares a whit about either institution. What do Kim Jong Il, Robert Mugabé, Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, various Sudanese leaders, and Iranian theocrats all have in common? An acute knowledge that the UN is a castrated, effete, and laughable institution where resolution of human rights loss, violation of nuclear non-proliferation treaties, genocide, terrorism, and war are concerned...unless you are America or Israel, then the UN "does its job".

#126

My choice? Easy...

Nicole is already old, and would wear out quickly in any Male Prison. i would prefer the youngest between Kevin and Sean, since i plan on making such an adventure for the long-term, and my *PUNK* would need lots of endurance...so to speak of such 'Thangs.

KårmiÇømmünîs† ;
Former Prison Pimp

"Now I know I'm definitely going to want to see again

"Saving Private Ryan"

"The Thin Red Line"

"Band of Brothers" (for the first time)

"The Lost Battalion"

Can anyone else name good movies."
The movies called SAHARA
[Link: www.saharamovie.com...]

govindini murty
john barrett

terminal island

directed by
jason apuzzo
[Link: www.libertyfilmfestival.com...]

"Ma'am, I'm just an entertainer."

Elvis Presley's response to a reporter who asked for his
opinion on the Vietnam War.
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It is the height of ingratitude for these 'celebrities' to denigrate the country that has allowed them to become FILTHY RICH for doing nothing truly productive. Like many others, I wish the lot of them would just shut up and sing...or act or whatever-the-heck else they do. If they truly don't like the U.S. of A, they can leave. The only thing between them and virtually any other country is air and I'm fairly confident they can afford the price of a ticket (1st Class, even).

It makes me sick when these pampered airheads, most of whom would be hard-pressed to make a living doing ANYTHING else, use their access to the media to tell all and sundry how much they hate the President and anyone who even slightly agrees with his policies. They live in gated communities, stay in four-star hotels, and get baskets of money for playing make-believe and then spit in the faces of the very people that make it all possible; the armed forces of this country and every one of our allies in this war.

Every time Sean Penn, Danny Glover, Nicole Kidman, et al open their cake hole and talk about how wrong the war is, our enemies are emboldened. Every time the MSM fails to tell the TRUTH about the nature of our enemy, our citizens lose sight of the reason our people are Over There. Not all of course, but a significant portion.

Hollywood used to be part of the United States. In WWII and during Korea, the movies were up-front about the enemies we faced. Even the ones that weren't explicitly about contemporary conflicts (The Adventures of Robin Hood, for example) celebrated the struggle for freedom.

God, how I HATE what the entertainment industry in this country has become.

#75 Jheka

BTW, anyone remember the truly horrificly godawful film "Swordfish" where the somewhat psychotic bad guy (played by Travolta) turns out to be an unhinged ex-Mossad agent?

no, but i remember eyewitness, starring sigourney weaver and william hurt, and christopher plummer playing the bad guy who, for some reason i didn't

no, but i remember eyewitness, starring sigourney weaver and william hurt, and christopher plummer playing the bad guy who, for some reason i couldn't comprehend, turned out to be an israeli spy.

Hollywood is just as relevant as the Legacy Media.

Yawn.

Sean Penn and the United Nations portraying global socialist individual-freedom haters. Gee. I didn't see that one coming.

Please Commiewood, don't let sane people keeping their money in their pockets slow your collapse in any way.

This movie sounds ridiculous - even if I didn't know the script was rewritten for political correctness reasons.
I'm amused by Sean Penn. For a man who claims to be so well educated and travelled, he seems ridiculously naive about the Middle East and its politics and history. I've only seen a sum total of two of his movies - and he sucked.

I totally didn't know Travolta was an ex-Mossad agent in "Swordfish". I kind of remember seeing the movie, but it's a blur. I should think that Mossad agents are a tiny bit more subtle in real life than the way I remember Travolta as in this movie.

All I can say is, fuck Hollywood.

Too much be made out of this. I saw the movie last night on a "whim" - didn't even know Penn was in it. The movie is nothing more than a "North By Northwest" wanna be. I almost fell asleep in the first hour. There is no political message here unless you want to stretch it to a Robert Mugabe similarity.
It makes a minor point of populist peoples heros types losing sight of their original ideals (once corrupted by money) and those followers that become disillusioned by the change.
Move along, nothing to see here. Trust me, it's a stretch to make this into a M Moore kinda thing. Penn even blows a guy away with extreme prejudice (over does it by a round or two at that !). His role is even very typical "cop" like without a trace of cynasicm. And I have NO urge to defend him here - I walked away thinking maybe hes finally grown up.

PIMF yet once again : cynicism

I'm compelled to go further here in all honesty. The surprise was that the 'disillusioned" was a "white" woman and the "corrupt" politician (once the peoples hero) was a "black"
African male. Very atypical for a LLL production don't you think ? Of course it could be implied that woman are incapable of corruption as opposed to us evil men but that would be a stretch.

#91 Jakester - Ugh.