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Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 2:37:44 pm PDT

At a public hearing in New Orleans, a man named Salaam Jihad (possibly a Buddhist?) threatened to walk into a police station and “open fire on everyone”—and members of the audience applauded: Residents blast NOPD in heated forum. (Hat tip: LGF readers.)

For much of a public hearing Wednesday night on discrimination in New Orleans, the city’s police force was a whipping boy.

Several speakers said the force has failed to discipline its own, and that black residents are too often stereotyped as criminals by police officers who harass them. For most of the meeting, New Orleans Police Superintendent Eddie Compass sat stone-faced, but when Salaam Jihad took the microphone, his remarks proved too much for the chief.

Clad in camouflage fatigues and a T-shirt showcasing iconic Cuban revolutionary Che Guevara, Jihad said he had been the victim of police brutality in 1997, and he claimed Police Department brass failed to investigate the incident seriously. If he found himself in the same situation again, Jihad said he would “march into the 2nd District with a gun and open fire on everyone I see. I’ll die like a man.”

When a few crowd members murmured their approval, a disgusted Compass grabbed a microphone on the table in front of him. “I’m going to say something here,” he said, his face twisted with disgust. “This guy is talking about killing police officers and you are applauding him.”

“You kill people, too!” shouted a handful in the audience.

That’s the way to prevent being stereotyped as a criminal—threaten to murder cops.

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1 noshariaincanada  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 12:38:34pm

Jihad schmihad

2 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 12:41:37pm

Free speech, media-cult law, Ninth Circuit.

OK

I am going to walk into a Starbuck's and blast every Mumia and Che t-shirt I see.

Power to the people, death to traitors, death to big media.

3 PDM  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 12:42:17pm
and members of the audience applauded

This is sickness.

4 piperfromtn  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 12:44:07pm

The Big Easy all of a sudden makes me quezy

5 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 12:44:48pm

In Texas, it is a felony to threaten police officers. It has held up through many trials, but no RoPer has yet tested it. I guess that will vary accoring to the percentage of oil-tick money in the judges' election fund.

6 Orson Buggy  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 12:45:07pm

And to think that Jihad is one of the "moderate" muslims.

Only moderate when it suits them.

7 toddhisattva  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 12:45:20pm

Buddhist for sure!

"Salaam" is from an ancient Sanskrit root meaning "sausage."

"Jihad" is a Tocharian word, possibly borrowed from Sinitic. It translates to, roughly, "explosion."

Now I have to get back to the philology of "felgercarb."

8 minuteman  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 12:46:04pm

too bad the cop didn't shoot the jihadi dead on the spot.

9 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 12:46:18pm
10 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 12:46:27pm

Is it silly of me to assume that Mr. Jihad was quickly arrested for making a terrorist threats?

11 GW  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 12:46:38pm
“You kill people, too!” shouted a handful in the audience.

Maybe it's because I was raised in suburbia but one of the first facts of life I learned, was that there are people in the world who want to and do commit harm to other people. Dad taught me that without the army and police 'taking care' of this group, people who wanted peace would never get any.

So when was color added to this black and white fact?

12 schlagerman  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 12:46:58pm

A disgruntled lawyer in my hometown made a similar comment about 10 years ago and he wound up in prison. I can only hope this guy ends up behind bars.

13 Cato the Elder  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 12:47:08pm

Sounds pretty consistent with the Bad Book to me.

Random fatwa of the day from "Ask the Imam" (watch out, Charles, this means you):

Q. I work as a web designer. This profession involves the displaying of human images (male, female) and insertion of music and sound loops in websites. Now as a profession, I want to know if the money i earn from this source is haraam or halal? I've spoken to few people and they told me, the least rank of thought is to make sure that I'm not involved in 'making' those images and music. I only take sources given by my clients and in some cases take existing sources available on the internet and display them. So, please let me know of this issue. Jazakalah Khair.

A. It is not permissible for you to display images of human beings and insert music and sound loops on websites. This is assisting in sin. Allah Ta'ala states, 'And do not assist in sin.' (Maaidah)

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai

14 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 12:47:14pm

4 piperfromtn

Hey...where'd you get your nic?...is that your name or do you play the pipes?

15 Studsup  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 12:47:18pm

He should have said his piece and then declared that he would not participate in any forum where his men were being threatened, closed the meeting and walked out.

16 Renna  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 12:47:34pm

Can you imagine life if these scum (and I'm talking about the applauding audience here) got their way and we did without the evil, murdering, brutalizing, corrupt police? Bet they think they'd be safer.

17 Rev. Churchmouse  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 12:48:06pm

can we question their patriotism now?

Or, better, I think- can we question what means a society needs to and ought to take take in order to protect itself from self-confessed sociopaths?

18 Rayra[deleted]  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 12:49:36pm
19 logger phd  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 12:49:59pm

Funny, his name means "Peace War." The paradox of Islam as presented to the world in a nutshell.

20 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 12:50:43pm

Suppose that someone had said this about a mosque? Boxer and the other dhimmis would rise on the floor of the Senate and demand a civil rights prosecution. Islamo-Streicher-in-chief Ibrahim Hooper would appear on all the talk shows to deplore the horror of it all and generalize into yet another rationale for Islamic barbarism. The Today Show would feature nothing else, Al Qatie Qouric (they perky burqa) would nod gravely as the victims held forth on bigotry and hate speech.

When will we recognize that this is an occupied country and that traitorous collaborators run many of our great institutions?

21 skippyMoment  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 12:51:26pm

The New Orleans PD has had a long and ugly history of corruption and graft. In the late 80's (I believe) one officer was successfully prosecuted for murdering a witness against him.

For a while it looked like the US Justice department was going to move in, fire everyone, and run the show while it built up a new PD from the ground up. At that time, there was a new police commissioner who promised to clean up his departments. He was given that chance. I guess they need to go back to Plan A, fire the police commissioner and everyone else, and start over from scratch.

Oh, and if anyone is travelling to that city, while the Big Easy is one hell of a fun time, don't run afoul of the cops... not good; not good at all.

22 Dave the.....  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 12:52:41pm
Can you imagine life if these scum (and I'm talking about the applauding audience here) got their way and we did without the evil, murdering, brutalizing, corrupt police? Bet they think they'd be safer.

Cincinati tried a version of that. The police got sick of constantly being attacked, so they just kind of sat back. No aggressive policing of any kind. Murders skyrocketed.

The worst job in the world has to be big city policeman. You really risk your life every day, and you're constantly being condemned by the criminal element and their families and media hogs.

23 Spiny Norman  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 12:53:42pm
Clad in camouflage fatigues and a T-shirt showcasing iconic Cuban revolutionary Che Guevara, Jihad said he had been the victim of police brutality in 1997, and he claimed Police Department brass failed to investigate the incident seriously. If he found himself in the same situation again, Jihad said he would “march into the 2nd District with a gun and open fire on everyone I see. I’ll die like a man.”

Sounds very much like one of Calypso Louie's deluded gang, except no black suit and bowtie...

24 Renna  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 12:54:24pm
I’ll die like a man.

The guy needs some real extreme realignment on what it means to be a man.

25 CrimsonFisted  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 12:54:34pm
Jihad said he had been the victim of police brutality in 1997, and he claimed Police Department brass failed to investigate the incident seriously

Source please. He throws a date thinking no one will question him. There would be records. I think it is safe to assume that the msm will take him at his word and not fact check his butt.

Idiot. Yet another "victim".

26 skippyMoment  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 12:57:37pm

This is an old report on the corruption of the NOPD, but gives some idea how pervasive the problem is and why the public might have responded as they did. POLICE CORRUPTION December 1992

27 Luigi  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 12:59:08pm

Get with the pogrom.

28 Anna  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 12:59:11pm

Can Salami Bihind be charged with incitement? To wit inciting a crowd towards violence? I think he can. And it is all written down. Oh gee Salami, lets find out how easy the Big is when you are tossed in the slammer.

Got to love the audience justifying murdering fellow human beings because they claim the police did. Charming, in a festering gangerous way.

29 jwbrown1969  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 1:01:10pm

If this moron does what he said those people in the audience who applauded would turn around and testify against the chief for not arresting the guy.

30 Doug  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 1:01:15pm

yeeeah bro...man, i wuz a vickTim ub crimebuh buhback in buh nyneteeen whitey three. Some homeboy bruthers doen uhTACKed me.

So I wants to march into Sam's Soul Food restaurant down on Woodward ave with a gun and open fire on every jumboney I see wrappin his lips around ribs and chitlins. I'll die like a real man.


(waiting for applause)

31 Orson Buggy  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 1:02:08pm

Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

B-E-S-T should have been spelled J-A-C-K S-H-I-T

32 Cato the Elder  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 1:02:41pm

Totally OT, people:

A month from today I fly to Tel Aviv for my first trip to Eretz Yisroel. I'm stoked.

Anybody here ever read "Damascus Gate" by Robert Stone? Is it any good, or is it a moonbat novel? I'm looking for stuff to read about Jerusalem/Israel before I get there.

33 Renna  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 1:04:25pm

The response to widespread corruption is "I'll see you all thrown out of your jobs or in prison!"

Not threats of opening fire on everyone you see. There is no excuse.

34 longwinger  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 1:04:27pm

i'll take a pair of those glasses! gawley andy...

35 Cornholio  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 1:05:21pm

20 Shiplord Kirel

Suppose that someone had said this about a mosque?

You got that right. It would be front page headline news.

36 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 1:07:06pm

#21 skippyMoment

The New Orleans PD has had a long and ugly history of corruption and graft.

They sure do. There was even a case where a cop (female) robbed a jewelry (I think) store and shot and killed a fellow officer in the process. One new police chief had a contract put out on him by officers.

Regardless of that history, the threat isn't justified. That being said, however, this Muslim better be watching his back, IMHO.

37 TimK  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 1:08:03pm

This is another case of Political correctness run amouk.
The police trying to do their jobs in a hostile enviorment, are attacked and critized by inner city inhabitants that can't or won't take responsibility for their or their neighbors actions.
Of course its the cops fault when they try to arrest an obnoxious drunk and when the drunk wants to fight he gets the shit kicked out of him. But if the cops do nothing then the cops are not doing their jobs.
It is a no win deal for the police, made worse by it being impolite to tell people that they are irresponsible wretches and that if you step out of line you get beat-up and arrested, by order of the tax paying public.

38 PDM  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 1:10:30pm

#24 Renna,

I’ll die like a man.
The guy needs some real extreme realignment on what it means to be a man.

Yea, extreme realignment in a coffin.

39 kstagger  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 1:11:14pm

let's see how well these people do _without_ police...

40 logger phd  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 1:11:20pm

#32 Cato

I have only read a few passages so far, but Jerusalem in the Twentieth Century by Sir Martin Gilbert is great so far.

But then, I like everything Gilbert writes, so I'm biased.

41 My 2 Cents  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 1:15:14pm

I just sent the link to this story about Mr. Jihad to the FBI tip line. Y'all might want to do the same, to increase the odds that he actually will get the attention he deserves.

42 Brenda  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 1:16:40pm

Speaking of shooting cops, tomorrow (4/29) is the third anniversary of the murder of Deputy David March by an illegal alien gang-banger who escaped to Mexico. Killer Armando Garcia is safe and happy in Mexico because that nation refuses to extradite any criminal who might receive a sentence of death or even life in prison. LA DA Steve Cooley estimates that there are around 3,000 murderers of Americans safely ensconced in Mexico due to its non-extradition policy.

There's a candlelight vigil tomorrow night in the LA area. Details on
Escaping Justice

For more details on the case, see
Deputy David March
and
Crime Victims of Illegal Aliens

BTW, widow Teri March pleaded personally with President Bush to lean on his amigo el Presidente Fox to extradite the killer, but has gotten a big nada for her efforts.

43 Baikal  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 1:18:14pm

Skippy is 100% correct.

NO is a fun town, but it's true - the NOPD had a very bad stretch there for awhile, and is not out of the woods. NO seems to breed corruption in government/law enforcement, and sometimes the locals get pissed off.

I'll go off on a limb and say that religion probably had little to do with this. Unless stupidity and bravado have become religions independent of our favorite political cult.

The irony is that knuckleheads like Salaam uniformly live to bleat the same nonsense another day, apparently not noticing that they were not shot/beaten on the spot by the murderous thugs they tempt.

44 legalpad  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 1:19:05pm

#20 SK -

that traitorous collaborators run many of our great institutions?


Now that's a bullseye.

open fire on everyone I see. I’ll die like a man.

A man who is a really sorry shot and who finds it easy to justify killing uncorrupted police, many of whom know nothing of any coruption. Overgenralties like this could get damn near everyone killed. What ever happened to assassination of specific people?

“You kill people, too!”

You who? If Salaam kills, and they are classed as part of his group (that seems to be how they think) then, so do they. Are they advocating a free-for-all killfest?

Corrupt cops are like any other ganster and should be treated accordingly.

45 LoFlyer  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 1:19:54pm

I have seen documentaries on corruption in the NOPD, I understand the problem is not as bad now, but it hasn't been fixed. Most of us never have any problems with the police because we are not doing anything wrong. I suspect many in the audiance were doing something illegal or the police would never of hassled them. We had a case at Atlanta Airport (Hartsfield-Jackson) where a cop threw a women down to the ground, handcuffed and arrested her because she didn't move her car out of the load/unload lane fast enough. It was caught on video and the cop was fired last week. Cops are now taking a customer service class.

46 scott in east bay  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 1:20:19pm

As usual, this is nothing new in inner city black communities. I do not wish to have anyone scream "racist" at me, so please don't bother. However, here in San Francisco, where I work, we have already had nearly 70 murders just this year. Two gangs are feuding in the projects. The black community there always says the same things. 1. "Why aren't the police solving these crimes?" (because no one will come forward with details). 2. "Why aren't the police out here doing something about all this crime?" (because when they do, you scream 'harrassment', 'racism', and 'racial profiling') 3. "Why don't police stay around to see the criminals doing shit?" (because if they do, you accuse them of 'occupying' your neighborhood). Sorry, but I've pretty much had enough. This idiot in N.O. is the same shit. And get ready, boys and girls, AQ is recruiting in our prisons as fast as it can. We can all look forward to tens of thousands of young black men coming out of prison, going back to our inner cities, and proselytizing for AQ.

47 BUD DAVIS  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 1:20:49pm

ot/ from "La Raza News" in Webster, Texas

dead tree edition, sorry no link

Maria Salvatruchas group declares war on Minuteman vigilantes

"ARMED CONFLICT IMMINENT"

48 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 1:24:56pm

Inner city residents might well be able to end police corruption if they would elect someone other than the usual mob of race-baiting demogogues to represent them.

49 logger phd  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 1:28:10pm

#48 Shiplord Kirel

--and anyone else interested on many of these issues, would do well to read the archives of "Jack Dunphy" (a pseudonym, for professional reasons) at NRO. He is an L.A. cop writing to expose the political nonsense hampering real police work, and the disconnect between the bureaucratic brass and the police in the trenches.

50 Cato the Elder  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 1:31:59pm

#40 logger:

Wow, that looks like a great book. And a full five-star rating (how often do you see that?).

Down below there's a plug for Karen "Dhimmi" Armstrong's "Jerusalem: One City, Three Faiths." Think I'll steer clear of that one...

51 logger phd  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 1:36:25pm

#50 Cato the Elder

Wow, I did not even see the 5-star rating.

Note what one reviewer typed:

"As a recent visitor to Jerusalem, I only wish I could have read Gilbert's work prior to my trip."

52 centaur  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 1:36:33pm

A perfectly manufactured tool, right down to the Che t-shirt. Got agit-prop?

53 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 1:37:49pm

#49 logger PhD
Thanks, I'll check that out.

#47 Bud Davis

The Razista moonbats cannot even imagined real vigilantes, yet.
Imagine 5 or 10 million armed citizens of every race, creed, color, and economic situation totally dedicated not just to stopping the invasion but to expelling the invaders who are already here.
Bush can save the Dhimmicrats from well-deserved extinction by continuing to sit on his hands over this issue. Are the Dems really capable of selling out one their main minority racist constituencies? If it will put them in power they will, they would sell their own mothers for another trip to the White House, and it could happen on this one.

54 legalpad  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 1:54:17pm

#46 - scott - tht problem, of course, is black leadership. They allow the gangs to feel justified, as do the media.

La Raza - and the rest, think they will be fighting white people like the lefties that apologize for their existence. And they apparently think they will only be fighting the current number of minutemen.

55 mkultra  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 2:03:08pm

I'm reporting here from New Orleans. The local news hasn't come on yet. I'll post again after it comes on. I can tell you this. It is much like Atlanta and other cities in the dirty South.

Mayor/Black
Police Chief and most assistants /Black

DA /Black

All but one city Councilmen/Black

School Board / all but two /Black

Fire Chief /Black

Most Crime Victims / Black

Still the Man has his boot on the throat on the African American community.

No leadership in the Pastoral community. As a matter of fact the Black Pastors here say the Mayor is Uncle Tom.

This is typical.

56 mkultra  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 2:08:07pm

BTW the mass corruption of the NOPD a thing of the Past. The main problem here is that there is a residency requirement that is keeping the number of policemen down to a untenable level. They need at least 900 more than they have.

The crime rate has been on the rise. Don’t dis my city it’s the best Jazz fest is on and kicking right now. Believe me you wish you were here.

57 rightymouse  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 2:14:37pm

#46 scott in east bay

You'll have no quarrel from me.

I wasn't born and raised here and I asked my husband (who was) why there were no all-black middle/upper class neighborhoods like there were white ones. His answers were sad.

I've come to believe that poverty and the cycle of criminal behavior/violence in this great country is mostly self-inflicted. The government does not help with the perpetuation of the welfare hand-outs.

That said, there are people like LaShawn Barber who are fighting the good fight and hopefully she, like Michelle Malkin, can help make a difference. These are two great ladies.

58 Rayra[deleted]  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 2:15:55pm
59 Rayra[deleted]  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 2:16:58pm
60 rightymouse  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 2:21:45pm

#59 Rayra

"::cough:: Marion Barry ::cough:: "

Yep.

What is it about scads of Americans celebrating criminal behavior if the person is not white?

61 rightymouse  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 2:30:36pm

BTW

Charles

Could you check on the Bhuddist reference, because they typically are not prone to names like "Jihad" or anti-social behavior. He could be a Bhuddist taken in by the dark side, but if that's true, he's not one of them any more.

Just asking.

Thanks.

62 Mr. E. Train  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 2:30:40pm

dislike and distrust of the police in the black community often has not so much to do with feelings of racial discrimination than with a general feeling of oppresion... ie driving while black.

Ive seen with my own eyes the problem from both sides. Ive seen unreasonable paranoia from black friends and co-workers. Ive seen police hassle and ticket black people, even co-workers, for doing what I have done, in the same place in front of other cops. I cant count the number of times that stoner friends have complained about cops pulling them over, taking their stash and sending them on their way without arresting them. So there are bad cops.

You can have L3 elements take over a community (see San Fransico) AND have a corrupt police force (see much of the LAPD).

If the NOPD is such a place then by all means, fire them all, bring in new under the Feds supervision. If that doesnt do the trick then pull the cops back and let the loons see what its like without a proffesional, fair police force.

63 Yanke Diver  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 2:41:54pm

#53 Shiplord Kirel

That situation has me sweating bullets. I belive the train is about to leave the station on this immigration issue & if Bush dosnt get on it our cause will be in deep shit. Hillary is makeing noises like she reconizes this & may up stage us.
Hope to hell that Carl Rove puts GW's arm right up behind his ear on this. I cant belive that Rove dosnt know which way the wind is begining to blow.

64 rightymouse  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 2:43:40pm

#62 Mr. E. Train

I can understand that a specific police force can be corrupt.

But by and large, they are not.

After the huge success of the Civil Rights movement in this country, I really don't understand why some minority groups continue to be mired in ignorance, poverty, violence, criminal behavior and illegitimacy.

One cannot talk out of both sides of their mouth, i.e. refuse to do well in school so as not to be like "whitey" and then blame "whitey" for their problems when they have trouble making it in the competitive labor market.

65 BingoBunny  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 2:43:49pm

Put him in that situation soon..with plenty of back up a block away. Sooner its done the better for our country and the rule of law..or safety anyway..like the rule of law matters to him anyway.

66 Anonymous Al  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 2:49:10pm

#46 Scott


It is the same all over.

There was a load of murder here in Louisville last year, and a once-pleasant Black neighborhood in the south end - Newburg - has become a hell-hole, where the elderly especially fear for their lives.

67 mkultra  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 2:50:39pm

Not a mention on the newscast I watched. This current situation all started because a visiting black college student was killed by being held down by a bunch of white bouncers at a club in the French quarter. Cops were standing by watching and did nothing. Almost all of the Police in N.O. are Black and the Chief is black as I mentioned before.

The meetings are being held to find out if the police should have done more to stop the eventual killing of the poor dead kid. The bouncers are all charged with Murder and the trial will soon be held. In the mean time the disgruntled intercity blacks are all over the back politicians here calling them the Man.

It's a funny thing there hasn't been a white Mayor of New Orleans since the late 70ties but the perception of racism still persists. All of the corruption cases you guys were talking about above my post were perpetrated by black officers.

One good thing about here is a concealed carry license is pretty easy to get and many a criminal winds up on the wrong end of an armed citizen.

It's a great place to live and very safe as long as you are Black.

The thing I try to preach to the African-Americans I know is "what do you think Malcolm X was talking about when he said by any means necessary"

One of the main reasons the founding fathers wrote in the 2nd amendment was for the protection of minorities. They didn't mean black folks at the time but that was their true genius cause that's what it means now.

New Orleans is a great place to live as long as you are not black. Nearly 100 % of the violent crimes here are Black on Black. No wonder the Black Police are confused.

68 rightymouse  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 2:53:43pm

#53 Shiplord Kirel

Bush definitely needs to get his act together over illegals here.

We should round them up and throw them out. Plain and simple. Good Lord. Try going to another country if you're American and stay there illegally.

And if the ACLU complains or other whiney group, we should just say "Oh, I'm sorry, what part of "illegal" don't you understand?"

69 christheprofessor  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 3:03:32pm

#68 rightymouse

Speaking of illegals, I heard someone mention an angle regarding not closing the borders that I hadn't heard before on the radio a day or two ago...

The caller indicated that allowing all this immigration (legal or illegal) is designed to keep the population growing, given the massive costs of our entitlement programs when the boomers finish retiring and the low birth rate of modern Americans. Don't know if I buy it or not, but there it is, for what it's worth.

On Rush today, Tom (Jim?) Sullivan mentioned that we get 1.5 million bbls of oil per day from Mexico (same from Canada) (I believe he said that was 20-25% of our either needs or imports, can't remember which), which might be another reason Bush is reluctant to pi$$ Uncle Vicente off...

70 skippyMoment  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 3:09:40pm

#36 Ward Cleaver & #43 Baikal

While NOPD has had a long and troubled history of corruption and other misdeed (including dealing drugs, murder of citizens and fellow officers), and while the citizens of that City are fed up with their PD, I do not want to create the false impression that I believe the threats or violent actions by the community towards the PD are in any way justified.

I think it is a clear indication of the lack of trust and respect the community feels, and their disdain for the police force.

This is a huge problem but advocating violence towards the PD on a whole... that's just plain wrong.

71 rightymouse  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 3:11:55pm

#67 mkultra

Too many Black Americans are their own worst enemy. They'll even kill each other to prove it. Sort of like the [bigoted word]s who will kill their own because they're not [bigoted word] enough or whatever.

Sorry, not PC.

But I don't care. Wasn't born here so I think I have less of a CNN eye on the issue. And I could really give a crap about the liberal PC mentality anyway. They speak with forked tongue and have no moral compass.

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck. That's my mantra.

They need to pull themselves up from this "hate whitey so I don't take education seriously" bullshit and the"Uncle Tom" complex for successful Blacks if they hope to survive.

The Hispanics (from South America) are no better. Just a lot of whine, whine, whine. Cubans, on the other hand, tend to kick ass here.

72 rightymouse  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 3:22:24pm

#69 christheprofessor

Not sure about any of that. Haven't heard anything my way.

OT

Charles, do you have a switcheroo algorithm for postings that have potentially offensive references? Yikes!

73 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 4:06:20pm

New Currency?

5 dolares border bill (with portraits of Fox and Bush).

I think the Dems will be laying in a big stock of these for '06 and '08.

74 piperfromtn  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 4:16:33pm

#14 eschew_obfuscation:
OT-I'm sorry to take so long but I was helping my son with a project.
I'm a Scottish piper, Grade 1, and have been playing competitively, off and on, for 28 years.

75 Baldy  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 4:31:10pm

I don't like his name. I assumed it was a chosen (i.e. made-up)name. I've also noticed kids named Jihad, in sports stories. There is a guy with the same name who writes for some Peace & War site (?).

76 Teacake!  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 4:36:41pm

Very odd, I live in New Orleans and haven't heard about this until seeing it here at lgf.

77 sms111  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 4:40:20pm

[Link: www.megat.co.uk...]

Argument by Bizarre Definition
Example: He's not a criminal. He just does things that are against the law.

78 TnRighty  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 5:24:15pm

To extend loflyer's remarks above:

The "new" police chief in the ATL is Richard Pennington, who is also late of the NOPD. As I understand from 3 hours north on I75 but in conversations with people who know, he is starting to make a difference there like he was on the way to doing in NO. Maya Franklin just made him a better offer.

79 doubledip  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 5:31:49pm

Jihad insisted he was neither advocating violence in general nor encouraging African-Americans to take up arms against the NOPD. He said his remarks were strictly personal, and that Compass had misinterpreted them.

So now eagerly awaiting the re-interpretation...

80 doubledip  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 6:22:30pm

#42 Brenda

In one infamous incident in Seattle, a white officer, using pepper spray rather than a gun, tries to subdue a naked black ex-con high on drugs. Ex-con grabs officer's gun and shoots officer point-blank.

Black leaders have gone out of their way to "immediately raise race as an issue" when a white officer uses deadly force against a black suspect, he said. Whites, now sensitized to the issue, naturally are suspicious if black racism is a factor when the reverse happens, he added.

"This is not a black, red, brown or white issue," said James Kelly, president of the Urban League of Metropolitan Seattle. "This is a mental health issue."

Some people have wondered whether the sensitivity surrounding race relations caused Herzog to be more tentative around Matthews.

White officer killing black = racism
Naked black killing white officer = mental illness

If the white officer had retrieved his gun and shot the naked black man in self-defense, this incident would've no doubt been treated very differently by the black community.

81 Jim Rockford  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 8:46:12pm

Scott is right; I lived in New Orleans in the nineties, the City itself is a mix of artists looking for cheap rent/studios in the Central Business District near downtown; old society money around Audobon Park; various tourist oriented businesses particularly food (best food in the US bar none) with middle class, mostly African American out by the Lakeside, and vast seething poverty class in the middle of the city. Notably, you can be admiring Anne Rice's former mansion in the Garden District and go two blocks away across Magazine Street and be in hard core drug houses. It's not like say West LA where South Central is a long way away. These areas are mere blocks from each other.

Drug dealing is the major industry for the vast underclass, they find it a badge of honor to be shot and don't much fear the 9mm. They do understand the power of the shotgun though and surrender to police when they hear one being racked. It's not uncommon for a drug criminal to be shot 7-8 times in separate incidents before he's finally killed. Or for a kid to be murdered for a bike (this happened on Magazine Street in front of ritzy Antique shops). I'm talking about a nine year old here. Besides the corruption in the NOPD, the cops are disliked because the vast underclass sees themselves as some sort of "occupied nation" with exaggerated macho notions handed down from the Old South as Thomas Sowell documented recently. I saw more Mumia posters there than I ever did in West LA. In fact I can't even remember seeing ONE Mumia poster in LA. Lots in New Orleans.

The vast underclass above all wants to keep the current situation going, they dream of getting on top of the pyramid (unlikely) and work for wages less than Wal Mart (ironically). Even one of the Neville family (Aaron sang a hit duet with Linda Ronstadt) ended up getting shot to death in a drug deal (after being in and out of jail, shot 7 different times). Various non-tourist oriented economic development schemes have gone nowhere, so that's the ticket for success in nasty places.

Mayor Nagin is a good man, the closest thing New Orleans will ever get to a Republican Mayor, and a Tulane MBA. He's honest (astonishingly for New Orleans) bright and hard working, but he's inherited a disaster nearly 80 years in the making and won't turn things around overnight.

82 Joshua (not a hamster) Scholar  Thu, Apr 28, 2005 9:53:11pm
When a few crowd members murmured their approval, a disgusted Compass grabbed a microphone on the table in front of him. “I’m going to say something here,” he said, his face twisted with disgust. “This guy is talking about killing police officers and you are applauding him.”

“You kill people, too!” shouted a handful in the audience.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! [wipes tears from his eyes.] That's a real rotfl!

That's the best satire of the Muslim all-our-evil-is-holy but-we-have-to-make-excuses-all-the-time FUCKING INSANE attitude I've ever read.

If I had thought it up I'd count myself a great humorist.

And it really happened.

Oh Jesus. You know where this leads. I don't want to see a whole civilization commit suicide by cop, but they want it so bad.

83 The Drizzle  Fri, Apr 29, 2005 1:43:18am

I hope this cockbite gets arrested and gets the ole' plunger in the bunghole treatment. Smear the handle with bacon first, though, so that he is filled with islamic shame.

84 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Apr 29, 2005 4:21:41am

I was born and raised in New Orleans, and I can say that this is all par for the course there. The gulf between rich and poor is a deep one, and racism is prevelant. David Duke made it out of a Gubanatorial primary for pete sake!

That was the only time I have ever voted for a Democrat. I figured that Edwin Edwards was a better choice than the former Grand Wizard of the KKK...everyone knew Edwrds was crooked, but better a thief than a POS like Duke.

I am happy to say that Edwin Edwards now resides in a Federal Penetentary here in Texas, where I now live, and that David Duke has become a non-entity.

I left Louisiana as fast as I could, primarily because of the economy, which sucked. From what I hear it still sucks.

The good ole boy network that exists there is a legacy of Huey P Long and the reconstructionists, IMO. THey say that when you cross the border into Louisiana you are stepping back in time by about thirty years. Having live there, I can believe that.

I do miss the food, Mardi Gras, Jazz Fest and my friends...but that's about all I miss about it.

85 RepJ  Fri, Apr 29, 2005 5:33:25am

They're just "keeping it real", ya know.


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