No kidding?

I'm astonished!

Among other things, Muslims are urged to avoid befriending Jews and Christians...

The feeling's mutual.

color me shocked!

I don't suppose there's any legal way to stop the funding or slow it down.

I see nothing new here

Charles, you give the MSM too much credit:

Mainstream media took a quick look at the study, yawned, then decided their time was best spent chasing runaway brides.

I bet not even "quick look" was given.

Time to start drilling in the arctic.

Isn't that the problem? It's far over the heads of MSM, and its a common assumption among us lizardoids. MSM doesn't push to investigate and report, and we already know everything about it. Neither side is champing at the bit to get the story out.

to treat their time in the United States as they would a trip behind enemy lines

Round up the saboteurs.

They do consider themselves behind enemy lines, don't they?

and many of the publications urge that women be required to wear veils and banned from various jobs.

Funny- I saw a muslim girl on the bus one day take off her skirt. Underneath she was wearing blue jeans. I wanted to to tell her, "You go girl!" So maybe being in America will benifit the women...I hope.

OT Terrorists return to Canada to...

[Link: www.canada.com...]

Pajamahideen.

They aren't hiding their agenda from us in the slightest.

So well done Bush for holding hands with them! Literally now, not just metaphorically like the rest of his career.

ape,
how do you feel about drilling in the arctic?

"The religion of Peace" since... well.

FInaly, a trickle of information. THe Mississippi River starts with a trickle. Maybe this is the beginning and the MSM will finally "get it". The Blogosphere will have to lead the way.

OT:

CNN cites long discreditied website iraqbodycount.org in a "news" report, while at the same time in the lead paragraph putting the following in quotes: "insurgents and foreign fighters" because the source was the US military.

Treasonous bastards.

U.S. offensive near Syria kills 75
Monday, May 9, 2005 Posted: 6:18 AM EDT (1018 GMT)

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- U.S. forces have launched an offensive against "insurgents and foreign fighters" near Iraq's border with Syria, killing at least 75 of them in the first 24 hours of the operation, the U.S. military said Monday.

...

The number of Iraqi civilians killed in the war remains unclear. Data compiled by the Web site iraqbodycount.org suggests that between 21,000 and 25,000 civilians have been confirmed killed.

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

#18--PIMF! Finally

# 16

Drill, Drill, Drill

Reducing the Saudi oil consumption to a level that they won't be able to afford financing radical mosques is non-trivial and a long term objective. Besides, if only the USA disengages from SA things aren't going to change.

A short-term solution is to dust off those laws about Sedition etc.

#21 Dov

I read that and immediately thought of the Mommas and Poppas tune "Turn, turn, turn".

"To every oil rig Drill, drill, drill..."

... 2nd place for "Voice Crying in the Wilderness Award" goes to former SF Superior Court judge, Kevin V. Ryan, in today's SF Chronic;

Why all provisions of the Patriot Act should be reauthorized

At the end of 2005, however, a number of the Patriot Act's most important provisions are scheduled to "sunset." I am hopeful that these 16 provisions are made permanent, thereby ensuring that all the necessary legal tools remain available to law enforcement.

Isn't this considered hate speech in San Francisco?

Our friends the Saudis.

They hate us, they really hate us

_{/Sally Field at the Oscars Mode Off}

Hey, the media has more important things to report, such as the fact John Bolton criticized an insubordinate subordinate.

Bottom line: The MSM is paralyzed with fear that fifth columnists such as CAIR and other anti-American radical groups (ACLU comes to mind) will admonish them for being insensitive.

Political correctness is at the heart of all this.

I say we storm every mosque. If they have nothing to hide, they should have nothing to fear.

If they have anything to fear, it's because they have something to hide.

24

Byrds, isn't it? And its Biblical, even.

# 24 vxbush

We also need to start exploring what is sitting under Utah, Colorado etc. There's more there than the middle east but the problem is in getting to it

Why the Saudis feel so emboldened as to pull this shit?

Any mosque in the United States which accepts money from the Saudi government should be forced to register as a foreign agent. It should then be monitored and its activities strictly regulated. When necessary, it should be shut down.

I'm a big fan of the 1st amendment's guarantee of freedom of religion-- however, freedom of religion does not, as contemplated by our Constitution, embrace the right to take instructions from a foreign power to undermine the United States government or practice violence against its citizens.

Nucular Power now.

The Byrds! I was afraid I had it wrong...

Thanks, Ed.

#24 That was The Byrds.
Hippies all of them.
But a good Biblical passage it is.

While mosques worldwide preach hatred of Israel and USA, we at LGF wherever we live, stand by Israel and USA. They (Islam) preach allahs' lies, death and destruction, while we (Judaism and Christianity) preach G-ds' truth, love, and mercy. It's your choice, love or hate.

MSM (CNN) cover OJ for 1 year, Monica for 1 year, runaway bride etc etc. Wake up and smell the coffee CNN.

#30

I really think that we need to investigate more fully the mechanism that creates oil. Based on some posts here some weeks ago, the traditional understanding of oil production that takes millions of years is getting some holes punched into it.

Some really clear hardcore science would go a long way. But yes, I agree; let's drill in ANWR, Utah, and off the coasts of California and Florida.

#36... add also Michael Jackson trial coverage

Drill in ANWR, drill in the Gulf of Mexico. The Saudis can eat their oil.

Let's compile and maintain a list of all Mosque locations. This will be essential when the EOD (End of Days) war begins. Plus, we may not be able to communicate with various levels of government so the local militias will need to take them out.

MSM doesn't know how to handle facts like these. You would think that they would jump all over this and associate President Bush with the hate filled demagoguery (sp? i don't care) spewing out of Saudi Arabia into the mosques in America. But they don't because MSM needs to tow the "Islam is a religion of peace" line and thus can't bash S.A. without it appearing to bash Islam as well.

On the one hand you have your CAIR types decrying anti moslim suspicions, on the other you have your Saudis telling the peeps they are jihadists behind enemy lines. I love it.

37-

And don't forget straining it out of the typical moonbat's hair.

#36 hornet

Hear, hear. Speak it loud and clear.

But if we drill in those areas what is going to become of the poor ducks and sealife ?

Sarc Off

Damned Environmentalists

See also:
Hatred's Kingdom : How Saudi Arabia Supports the New Global Terrorism
by Dore Gold

American Jihad: The Terrorists Living Among Us
by Steven Emerson

Morganfrost #32 -

Excellent suggestion.

The sad part about this is that this is old news. Steve Emerson has been trying to get this information out for years, as has Daniel Pipes and others.

Almost no one is paying any attention, however, to the fact that an entire generation of American Muslims is being indoctrinated with disloyalty to, and hatred for, America. These people are going to end up being educators, government employees, members of the military, etc.

40 Padre.

Remember, the shiny side of the tinfoil should be facing out.

We already knew that the left is doing backsprings to reinvent Islam as non-threatening, indeed noble. Revisionist views are omnopresent in popular culture, be it the MSM or in Hollywood films. Media reporters and film makers just never managed to wrap their heads around the fact that it is they whose heads would be lopped off first if the Islamicists had their way. Ask Daniel Perl. Ask Theo van Gogh. How utterly blind and dumb is that?

There is a simple way to reduce the oil imports: using plastic waste and used tyres as a fuel for power stations. I think it's already done to some extent in the USA (and Europe too), but IMO we should do more of it.

Speaking of the Atlantic, I'd also be interested in hearing from militarily-savvy lizardoids (especially regarding naval affairs--this means you, EW1(SG)) regarding this story: How We Would Fight China

Amy

not just a generation of Muslims. A generation of university students, hopelessly brainwashed, and full of hate.

#50 FabioC

The environmentalists have even protested windmills as it might hurt a bird, can you imagine what they would do at the thought of a burning tire ?

#40 Padre: Step away from the Left Behind paperback.

The double standard, that does not hold Islam to account for the religous policies, but can call Israel apartied, is clearly anti-semitic.

#53 Dov

In Italy, someone sent bullets by post to the mayor of a small town, who was open to accept such a plant in his county.

I haven't checked it in a while but the website of the Islamic Society (mosque) of Boston links to an article by one of their favorite imans that make frequent reference to kufr, recommends wife beating, and states that Muslims who allow their wives to work have been duped by a conspiracy of the Jooos...

OT--

I think that might be a gravity wave moving south through the DFW area.

Despite a stout cap (temperature inversion due to hot, dry air coming off the mountains on the other side of the Rio Grande) about 850 mb (about 1500 meters), CAPE, even at the early hour of 7 am at Corpus Christi (nearest sounding site to Houston) is over 2,000 J/Kg.

Sounding shows rather weak mid-level flow, but at least pulse severe with a quick shot of hail or gusty winds, maybe.

At 10:42am CDT, sun occasioanlly poking through, but low clouds still blocking the serious insolation needed to destabilize the atmosphere further across Southeast Texas.

OT: Grand Traitorous Mufti of Australia Praises Iraqi Jihad (The Daily Telegraph)

"We value your jihad and your efforts and we call upon you to do something for the sake of our community and all Australian society, which does not support (Prime Minister John) Howard's pro-American policies," he said.

I think that might be a gravity wave moving south through the DFW area.

Recalibrate the inertial dampeners, Lieutenant Laforge! Make it so!

#30 Dov (In the Astrodome City) Republic of Texas, I did not know that. How deep is it?

#40 Padre

Settle down there Padre...

Correction to #56: cartridges, not bullets.

speaking of media bias...argh

51 Occaisional
Not a military man myself but I will reiterate my belief that Taiwan is safe as long as we have a GWB type president. We send up a Carter-esque POTUS in 2008 and it's all over for the Islanders.

As far as hardware goes: the China Scenario shows we still need Naval and Air superiority. Especially New Attack subs and new planes for the Navy.

Go the source to see what they think of us. Visit often. Don't speculate.

Re: the hate article at ISB:

They no longer host it and instead provide a link (which is broken) with a disclaimer.

Joos, wifebeating and kufr...

I did find the Google cache version of the link...

#40 Padre

I concur.

/certified sane

#23 FabioC., your absolutely right. China and other countries would be glad to make use of Saudi oil.

Occaisional Reader
Personally, after that crap with the Orion Recon plane back in 2001, I was hoping we'd build some sort of flying tank type plane that could survive collisions with harassing fighters.

#62 Roger

I read that it's so deep and under shale and clay that in the 70's it wasn't cost effective to drill for it at 30. pbl however we aren't at 30 anymore and the drilling technology has improved so we need to bring it up.

Yep..we have kill non-Muslim "textbooks" from Islam that are brushed under the rug. Meanwhile the MSM couldn't stop ranting about the new Pope because he's anti-abortion, and doesn't advocate gay marriage, yet preaches love towards those who are homosexual or have abortions. The Pope is considered an extremist monster and we need to be tolerant of the Religion of Peace.

OT: Uganda: Muslims Threaten Jihad (New Vision/AllAfrica.Com)

"The Muslim community has been provoked for long. I may not be the one to fight but there are Muslims ready to go for Jihad. We shall fight this battle until the end in any form."

UAE to Rehab Child (Some as Young as 4 yrs old) Camel Jockeys (AFP/Dawn, Pakistan)

some as young as four, were being brought in from poor countries, mostly in Asia, to race the camels.

Now they use robots, which Charles posted about...

W-lover writes:

Funny- I saw a muslim girl on the bus one day take off her skirt. Underneath she was wearing blue jeans. I wanted to to tell her, "You go girl!" So maybe being in America will benifit the women...I hope.

Honor killing offense, doncha think? The whore was wearing blue jeans.

#71 Peacekeeper

Sadly, armor & flight do not get on together very well. It's a matter of Zodiac sign, probably. LOL

#71 PK:

I was hoping we'd build some sort of flying tank type plane that could survive collisions with harassing fighters.

I'll skip the flying tanks, but am very, very concerned that we get a new generation of air-superiority fighters in the air pretty soon, whether F-22 or JSF or both. We haven't introduced an all-new air superiority fighter since, what, the early 80s (F/A-18)? The strong performance of the Indian Air Force's MiG-29s against USAF F-15s in war games this past summer was a wake-up call.

These Wahabbi guys are really straight out of the seventh century. And they share a hatred of things modern with our homegrown leftists/communists who have, over thirty years or so, transmogrified themselves into 'greens,' 'environmentalists,' seekers of 'sustainability' and other assorted nutball luddites.

The latter would have us all living in yurts and eating only plant matter. Maybe not even that, since 'animal rights' will logically evolve into 'vegetable rights.' Vegetables are 'alive,' after all, etc.,etc., yaddah, yaddah, retch, puke, spit. I can hear it now: "Salad is Murder!"

Watch this video about thousands of children in training camps in Africa for Jihad
[Link: www.journeyman.tv...]
British documentary.

#62 Roger

I think Dov was talking about the Oil Shale and Tar Sand deposits in western Colorado and eastern Utah.

It is beleived to be very large but costly to extract, at this time.

I remember a below ground retort for oil shale near Rifle, Colorado. Near Parachute, Colorado on the western slope.

I has been a while since I lived there. Maybe Dov was thinking of another type of petroleum product(s).

#80 maf

That might be what I was reading about

#81 Dov

No problem, glad to help out.

fabio

Sadly, armor & flight do not get on together very well. It's a matter of Zodiac sign, probably. LOL

Well there is the A-10

Occaisional
Yep, the F-14 record looks great but hell it was designed in the late 1960's. I think we need the F-22's and JSF. If the Chinese know that they can't run airlift or sealift, they will know they can't invade.

Now if I could just spell and use correct grammer!

PIMF! ...believed...

...It...

#83 keepandbear

The 'Hog has a nice armor for a plane, but it's basically limited to the cockpit - maybe some other spots, but still not enough to protect from a collision.

Flying tank? Well actually the Orion did manage to survive a collission that destroyed that Chinese Fighter ( what a Mig 21?). Playing chicken is a staple of harassment techniques. You can bet that the Chinese Pilots now realize that if they bump a P-3 they are going to die. So let the next generation of recon plane be built with the idea of survivng collisions. We can do it. Bigger engines and beefed up wing struts.

Deep convection produces waves over a broad spectrum of frequencies. Gravity waves are one of many methods the atmosphere uses to transfer momentum (as well as temperature and moisture), and in the process, attempt to establish an energy equilibrium. They are essentially a damped harmonic oscillator, like a spring, but acting in three dimensions instead of one. A better 2-D analogy is a rock tossed into a still pond. The size of the ripples depends on the size of the rock and the depth of the water.

These "ripples" can be caused by flow over a mountain range, a downdraft hitting the ground, or an updraft penetrating the tropopause (i.e., entering the stratosphere). They are forced by buoyancy and damped by gravity (in fact, Gravity Waves are more correctly called Buoyancy Waves). They propagate most readily in a stably stratified layer... in other words, potential temperature must increase with height in the layer in order for a gravity wave to propagate within that layer. Since the atmosphere has no upper boundary, the waves also travel upward. These waves will not be discussed at length here, but it should be noted that these upward-propagating waves can be reflected into the horizontal (ducting), allowing the amplitude of the horizontal waves to remain greater than it would otherwise.

The basic process responsible for the propagation of gravity waves the atmosphere constantly trying to achieve pressure equilibrium. A parcel of air will travel from an area of high pressure to an area of low pressure due to the "pressure gradient force". Let Point A be a local high and Point B be a local low. Air will travel from Point A to Point B, eventually causing Point A's pressure to drop and Point B's pressure to rise (conservation of mass). In some amount of time, Point A will become a local low and Point B will become a local high. With a little imagination, suppose there are Points C, D, E, etc that also undergo similar pressure fluctuations. So the crests (and troughs) of the waves travel outward in all directions from the source like the ripples of water in a pond.

Some of the fundamental physical characteristics of gravity waves are not well-understood or well-documented, but in general, here are some basic guidelines: they typically have a 1-15 millibar amplitude (vertical displacement), a 50-500 kilometer wavelength, and a period of 1-4 hours. One can then easily calculate the maximum range of wave speeds from this... 12-500 km/h. The gravity waves created by tropopause penetration usually generate the highest amplitude and highest energy waves.

What sort of environment is most favorable for the creation, development, and propagation of gravity waves? As mentioned earlier, the layer mus be stably stratified. This is very important; if the atmospheric layer of interest is unstable, gravity waves do not travel through it as easily. Furthermore, strong wind shear aloft is seemingly beneficial. Both of these ingredients are found near a dryline or a frontal inversion. And since drylines and fronts are quite adept at forcing convection, it makes it very easy for thunderstorms along these boundaries to generate very powerful gravity waves. These atmospheric ripples can sometimes travel across the country for 1500 kilometers or more.

Why don't lefties go on about this happening in the US? Tey're always saying the President is too close to the Saudis (implying they are evil), YET make no mention of their influence in the US's mosques. Could it be that they don't care if US Muslims hate America, Jews, and gays?/sarcasm off

One final point... how do gravity waves interact with convection? Recall the amplitude of these waves can be 15mb (sometimes more). Well, this can be enough to force parcels to rise (fall) above their LCL or LFC; i.e., they are simply displaced upward (downward) from their previous position. So basically, powerful high-amplitude gravity waves can force (hinder) condensation and convection. They are also responsible for dangerous clear-air turbulence. In fact, if the amplitude isn't large enough or if the air is too dry, condensation will not be induced, and the result will be completely oscillatory and invisible turbulence. The clear-cloudy ripple effect has been observed on several occasions using visible satellite imagery. In the case of the May 27,1997 Jarrell, TX tornado outbreak, the supercells were largely enhanced by gravity waves released several hours earlier by a storm system hundreds of kilometers away.

Not only can gravity waves force convection, but convection can create and amplify gravity waves. As mentioned earlier, updrafts and downdrafts colliding with some form of boundary create gravity waves. But the processes in a thunderstorm help to amplify existing gravity waves. Latent heat release provides the waves with energy. The thunderstorm's environment amplifies the crests by means of evaporative cooling (when precipitation encounters dry air, it evaporates and cools the air), while the troughs are amplified by means of compensating subsidence (sinking that warms the air to compensate for cooling caused by evaporation).

Link.

[Link: adds.aviationweather.gov...]

Get real folks. Any oil that we (US of A) do not buy from the M.E. or anywhere else, will be quickly bought by the ChiComs. If you want to see something real interesting take a close look at what China is doing with its foreign aid and foreign investment dollars (A whole lot of greenbacks from Wal*Mart have to go somewhere) in the ‘Third World’. Don’t get me wrong, I am not trying to bash anyone. I am just trying to point out that it is much bigger than the old “don’t buy oil from the M.E.” line of thinking.

/* No oil for pacifists! */

#33
I agree 100%

Of course, I'd bet the Chinese are getting worked up by the P-3 flights in international airpace, all the while oblivious to the really high-tech recon gear we deploy everyday. The area 51 type stuff.

I work at a univerisity library where I take in donations. About twice a year we get a book (always the same one) from the Saudi Embassy in D.C. which reads as an apologia for Ibn Abdul Wahhab (The wahhabi patriarch). Mohammad bin Abdul Wahhab, a slandered reformer.

If anybody wants a copy, let me know. They're starting to take up space in my spare br. ...just need my poor grad-student self to be compensated for shipping from Florida.

#51 Occasional Reader: Well, I disagree with Kaplan's intro:

The Middle East is just a blip.

The Islamists are an existential threat that the Chinese will never be.

That said, China is a threat in the same sense the Soviet Union was. They are in fact moving to fill the power and influence vacuum left by the collapse of the CCCP. I would not expect them to resort to brinksmanship the way the Soviets played it.

Militarily, they have a huge standing army, effective for defense but not much else. (I suppose they could overrun the Korean Peninsula if they wanted-but that would be a very costly endeavour and they know it.) As a Naval threat, not until long after I'm dead and buried.

Mainstream media took a quick look at the study, yawned, ...

I'd have to disagree, the MSM took one look at that report and freaked.

Then did everything in their power to expunge it from their memory. And never will they report on it, except to discredit it if it possibly does surface.

#91 Da_BeerFreak -

Any oil that we (US of A) do not buy from the M.E. or anywhere else, will be quickly bought by the ChiComs.

Yes. People forget that it's a lobal market.

Obviously, Baldy is having lobal problems. [It's global...Preview Is My Gay Lover (PIMGL)] It would be good if we conserved, explored & built some new refineries though.

#94 EW1(SG):

Well, I disagree with Kaplan's intro:

I think it was just a bad way of saying that, on a purely strategic level, there is no forseeable rival in the Middle East to US military superiority. Of course, that's not the same thing as threat assessment.

As a Naval threat, not until long after I'm dead and buried.

And you're planning that for when, roughly?

Seriously, the only part of this assessment that I would see as plausible would be the ability of Chinese air, naval and long-range missile forces to make it costly enough to US forces that a future President (especially a Clinton Part Deux) would back down from trying to break a blockade/seizure of Taiwan. Certainly the Chinese will not be challenging USN blue-water dominance any time soon, though.

re: reelcobra
Does anyone know if there's a term for what reelcobra does, putting a link to his site in every post he makes at lgf? I know that it's not link whoring, but is there a term for his trawling for site visits?

Hate speech is only when westerners tries to protect their lives. Ask The British AUT.

Doss (#99),

Does anyone know if there's a term for what reelcobra does, putting a link to his site in every post he makes at lgf? I know that it's not link whoring, but is there a term for his trawling for site visits?

Trawling-for-site-visits-to-run-up-your-hit-counte rism? :-)

It is pretty blatant isn't it? A lot of his "links" aren't even vaguely associated with the current topic.

I wonder how many other sites he does this on?

This reminds me of a story I read shortly after 9/11. A local (Boston-area) all-American boy - honor student, football star, etc. - went to college and converted to Islam. He took an arabic name, started wearing the skullcap, all that stuff.

The reporter asked him about the 9/11 attacks, and he answered with the typical boilerplate muslim response: Islam forbids terrorism, BUT blah-blah-blah. Now, I don't think the kid (he was still in his early 20s) was far enough along to be practicing taqqiyah; I think he was just regurgitating it.

I forget most of the rest of the details, but one thing stood out and is the one really memorable item in the story: whenever he visits his parents, he avoids the family dog that he grew up with. How twisted is that? If I were his parents that alone would be enough to convince me of the evil nature of the cult he fell in with.

#101 Geepers
reelpathetic was told that what he is doing is "bad form" by another poster, and he said feigned newbiness, but continues to do it.
Check out posts 17 and 21.

#97
Building more refineries is a necessary part of a intelligent energy policy. But, because of the lead-time in bringing a refinery on-line we have to look at this as a mid-range solution.

One of the things that can be done now and have an effect in a shorter period of time is to get rid of the stupid regulations that mandate all the different so called ‘boutique’ blends of gasoline. Going back to a single ‘national standard’ would ease some of the supply problems we have now.

/* No oil for pacifists! */

#98 Occasional Reader:

I think it was just a bad way of saying that, on a purely strategic level, there is no forseeable rival in the Middle East to US military superiority.

I suppose you're right.

And you're planning that for when, roughly?

Not any time real soon. ;)

Seriously, the only part of this assessment that I would see as plausible would be the ability of Chinese air, naval and long-range missile forces to make it costly enough to US forces that a future President (especially a Clinton Part Deux) would back down from trying to break a blockade/seizure of Taiwan. Certainly the Chinese will not be challenging USN blue-water dominance any time soon, though.

Good grief! What do you need me for? Seriously, yes this is a plausible scenario. But not likely any time soon. They have a lot of catching up to do before they could force the issue. In fact, its possible the communist government could fall before they are ready to accomplish this.

And don't forget their migration into the power vacuum left by the Soviets. They are working diligently on trying to develop client state relationships a la CCCP. As to a blue water navy, I would point out that the PRC isn't sufficiently threatening to budge the likes of Viet Nam, Malaysia, or the Philippines from the Spratly Islands.

#105 EW1(SG):

In fact, its possible the communist government could fall before they are ready to accomplish this.

Good point. As I was reading this article, I was indeed thinking about similar articles assessing Soviet military strength that I read in, oh, the late 1980s. Let's hope this one become irrelevant in exactly the same way.

Doss (#103),

Alkmyst isn't the only one to mention it.

So many people here have there own sites, they post what they know and if need be back it up with links to their sites. Or link when there's a story that they've already covered and have information already organized and laid out.

There have been others who've done the same thing, at some point when there is no content, just links, Charles will block direct links to their site.

Sad really, because he seems to have good content at his site. But at this point I suspect most people just scroll over his posts.

China is already (along with Muslim Malaysia) the big player developing the oil fields in Sudan.

Those particular fields the Chinese are developing are the reason the Arabs of the North are ethnically cleansing the Black-African animists/Christians and even Muslims of the South.

#106 Occasional Reader:

As I was reading this article, I was indeed thinking about similar articles assessing Soviet military strength that I read in, oh, the late 1980s.

At that time, fully one-third of the Soviet citizenry's disposable income was being spent on alcohol (and some less salubrious beverages, like aircraft de-icing fluid.) It followed that their military was, uh, rather disfunctional.

At that time, fully one-third of the Soviet citizenry's disposable income was being spent on alcohol

[thinking about the contents of my kitchen]

Henceforth, I shall be known as Occasionalski Readerovich.

#109 EW1:

It followed that their military was, uh, rather disfunctional.

I should point out that the Chinese don't have a similar social problem. But they do have a long history of capitalism (although not democracy,) that their current government may not be able to keep the populace from reverting to.

#110 Occasional Reader: Hell, if you were to attempt to drink a THIRD of your disposable income each month, you probably wouldn't last 3 months. The only thing that allowed the Soviets to spend that kind of proportion of income on alcohol was just their lack of prosperity!

(Oh, and the stuff sold in state stores? We are talking some really nasty stuff!)

#112 EW1(SG):

Hell, if you were to attempt to drink a THIRD of your disposable income each month, you probably wouldn't last 3 months.

Oh, is that a challenge? You are ON, my friend! "Arrange food, drink, entertainment, and a sit-down orgy for 40."

[extra credit for identifying this movie line--no fair googling]

history of the world?

#113 Occasional Reader:

[extra credit for identifying this movie line--no fair googling]

LOL! Like THAT would be something I know! NOT!

#108 Ed M…
Also with the ChiCom veto on the UNSC the UN will not be allowed to do anything more than wring their hands and shake their finger.

After having spotted the first fully veiled (eyes and everything covered, even gloves! with it 80 degrees outside! ) woman in my town this weekend and getting really depressed about it, (one of the reasons we moved a 1000 miles from CA was because we lived in "Little Kabul" and we were just fed up with it all) I looked up the mosques here in town. Imam is from Saudi, of course- and what a cutie pie he is, too. Their website conveniently gives a list of businesses to avoid (thanks!) and this tidbit I had never come across before:

Sample Islamic Will (english)

Some highlights:

How to deal with any additional "unregistered" wives, should you happen to have any lying around...! ( With a disclaimer that one should not (wink) disobey the law of the land, however...)

Adopted or fostered children or non-muslims in the family are to be treated "as if they do not exist"...

14 pages of arcane shariah estate dividing rules for every permutation of number of relatives. Have to see it to believe it...

Just lovely. I cannot get away. Argghh...

Muslims are career Criminals!

In San Diego on March 3, Ilyas Ali, an American citizen, and Muhamed
Abid Afridi, a Pakistani national, admitted to drug trafficking to raise
money for weapons for the Taliban and al-Qaida. They were selling heroin
and hashish to raise money for Stinger missiles.
On the same day, five Muslims were convicted in Buffalo of trafficking
in untaxed cigarettes to get money for jihad. Mohamed Abuhamra, Aref
Ahmed, Ramzy Abdullah, Nagib Aziz and Azzeaz Saleh could get 20 years
and $500,000 fines for using the smokes to try to raise money to help
the six jihadists from the Lackawanna, N.Y., mosque - the notorious
"Lackawanna Six" journeyed to Afghanistan to join up with al-Qaida.

Muslims always good for a laugh:

Airport Cops on Bra Bomb Alert
From the UK's Daily Mirror, with thanks to Jeffrey Imm:
WOMEN suicide bombers wearing exploding bras could strike at airports, police
intelligence experts fear.
Scotland Yard has sent details of the bombs - which are primed to go off as
the wearer is frisked by security staff - to all the major airports, including
busy Heathrow and Gatwick.
The memo warns one suicide bomber in Colombo, Sri Lanka, killed herself and
four police officers. "The device exploded as the attacker was being searched
by two female constables," it says.
"The police have determined she was wearing an improvised explosives-laden bra
wired to detonate if tampered with."...

One anti-terrorist officer said: "It may sound a little silly but you can't
take anything for granted these days."
The bombers lull officers into a false sense of security by showing their bare
midriff to prove they are not wearing a "bomb jacket" - but then the bra
explodes.
In 2002 Ayat al-Akhrass, 15, stuffed her bra with Semtex and detonated the
bomb in a supermarket in Jerusalem, killing herself and two shoppers.

I've heard of women with explosive bosoms but this takes the cake!

the info and the hate are out there if you look:

"The Jews are the Jews. There never was among them a supporter of peace. They are all liars… They are terrorists. Therefore it is necessary to slaughter them and murder them, according to the words of Allah… It is forbidden to have mercy in your hearts for the Jews in any place and in any land. Make war on them any place that you find yourself. Any place that you meet them - kill them. Kill the Jews and those among the Americans that are like them… The Jews only understand might. Have no mercy on the Jews, murder them everywhere…" ADSL 56K
Dr. Ahmed Yousuf Abu Halabiah, preacher,
member of the Palestinian Sharia (Islamic religious law) Rulings Council,
and Rector Advanced Studies, the Islamic University,
Palestinian Television, 13 October 2000

And it is truly incredible:

"We will blow them up in Hadera, we will blow them up in Tel-Aviv and in Netanya so that Allah will place us as masters over this riff-raff ...It is shameful for us to die as cowards… They will not be deterred except by the color of blood of their filthy people. They will not be deterred unless we willingly and voluntarily blow ourselves up among them… Allah will make the Moslem master over the Jew…." ADSL 56K
[Sheikh Dr. Ibrahim Muhammad Maadi, Friday Sermon on PATV, August 3, 2001]

Such a Peaceful Religion:

The Palestinians teach the connection between terrorism, the killing of Jews, and Israel's anticipated destruction in battle:
"We will fight against them and rule over them until [citing a Hadith] the Jew will hide behind the tree and stone and the tree and stone will say: 'Moslem! Servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, kill him…
"We will enter Jerusalem as conquerors, and Jaffa as conquerors, and Haifa as conquerors and Ashkelon as conquerors, we are certain that the victory is quickly coming…" ADSL 56K
[Sheikh Dr. Ibrahim Muhammad Maadi, Friday Sermon on PATV:, August 3, 2001]

And this is how whacky they really are:

Here is how far out some of the Arabs really are:

Sheikh Ikrama Sabri, the PA-appointed Mufti of Jerusalem, released a religious ruling, a "Fatwa", denying the Jewish connection to the Kotel:
"No stone of the Western Wall has any connection to Hebrew history

he stated that the Jews call the "Western Wall" the "Wailing Wall" and then creates a bizarre fantasy for their "wailing" :

"The Jews call this the Wailing Wall for two reasons. The first, the overt [reason] is that they cry because they lost one of the Ten Commandments [tablets], and they lie and claim that the Commandment [tablet] was lost in the area around Al Aqsa. This is why religious Jews are apprehensive of entering the Temple Mount, because of the fear that they might step on a paving stone underneath which may be the lost commandment [tablet]. The second reason, that is not openly stated is that the Jews cry, repent, and remonstrate before Allah that He chose Mohammed from among the Arabs and did not choose a [prophet] from among the Children of Israel… In Mohammed's time the Jews thought that the final prophet would be a Jew, and they prepared themselves to receive him and they even threatened the Arabs and said to them that 'When the new prophet comes, we'll see what we will do to you' and then the prophet turned up from among the Arabs and they (the Jews) became angry and bitter that he (Mohammed) is the prophet. What they are crying about is their protest 'Why wasn't the prophet [chosen] from among the Children of Israel, as they had anticipated." [Palestinian Television, 11 January 2001]

Islam - a LYING AND WHACKED OUT RELIGION

#114 keepandbear:

history of the world?

Nope, but good guess... sort of in the same ballpark. A Funny Thing Happened On the Way to the Forum.

There should be a equality of free religions act..to prevent one red cent from coming into any country unless the country giving the money allows equal rights to other religions to give money in their country. for the same kinda projects..Saudi arabs can give money to build Mosques and reading material..when baptists or others can build churchs in Mecca.

Meanwhile two leaders walk hand in hand!

Among other things, Muslims are urged to avoid befriending Jews and Christians; to treat their time in the United States as they would a trip behind enemy lines; to revile Sufism, Shia, and other non-Wahhabi variants of Islam; to rob and inflict violence on Muslims who engage in homosexual acts; and to kill Muslims who convert to other faiths. The usual anti-Semitic slurs are recycled (The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, for instance, is treated as a historical document in Saudi-donated textbooks), and many of the publications urge that women be required to wear veils and banned from various jobs.

Obviously we have the power to outlaw any cult that preaches robbing and killing of innocent people.

Let me say that again:
Obviously we have the power to outlaw any cult that preaches robbing and killing of innocent people.

But of course the government doesn't want to piss off our good friends the Saudis... Damn it.

Dutch-domiciled mohammedans at play

Why should WahaboPigs stop? They have a good friend in the White House.

Two goverments Bush Jr. just loves: Mexico and Saudi Arabia. By the friends he keeps we know who he is.

#129 Mik

Lest you forget, Djimmy Carter and Bill Clinton were also "good friends in the White House" to wahabbopigs as you call them--Amy Carter as a child enjoyed Carter family stays at Prince Bandar's ski chalet in Colorado according to Pres. Carter (C-Span tape).

But why the silence from state school licensing boards and the National Education Association and other educational organizations? Shouldn't educational groups and the Education Department Djimmy Carter created object to illegal or substandard curricula in US-based islamic schools?

Earl #128 -

Human rights organisation Human Rights Watch said the assault of Crain is the result of ethnic tension in the Netherlands. It said gays are the victim because immigrants take revenge for the injustice they encounter themselves.

I am so f*cking sick and tired of these organizations that continue to make excuses for hateful Islamists. They're victims, so they (naturally) victimize others, and none of it is their fault, poor babies.

Jews have been victims of much worse than anything ever encountered by Muslims in places like the Netherlands, but I don't recall stories about Jews attacking people, spitting on them or calling them "F*cking fags" or whatever as a result.

This is just another example of Muslims using intimidation to force the majority society to conform to their views and protect their delicate feelings.

One question to ask is: what happens in Saudi Arabia if America pulls out on its support for the royal family?

Though our leader's support for Saudi Arabia is repulsive, the US is in the position of being forced to choose the lesser of who two evils - until some kind of revolution occurs among the rabidly pro-Jihad population.
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People leaning leftwards, who believe is it errant to recognize that there is a present and growing threat from Islam in the form it takes in the present world: take careful note of what Imams are preaching in even our own society. This is not a matter of arresting or fighting a few "militants," "freedom fighters," or even terrorists, but of one of the most powerful ideologies in history which views America and its (non-Islamic) ideas as the enemy.

pimf: strike that 'who'

Islamic supremacism = THE ULTIMATE IMPERIALISM.

The sleazy accusations that Jews want to take over the world are a pretty thin diversion from the real agenda of Islam.

xbalanke #102,

Just have him read Mark Gabriel
Most journalists don't seem to grasp the concept, or rule of abrogation, which is why Muslims engaged in dawa in the west keep pitching these friendlier, less threatening verses from the Koran. If we could just teach this one concept about Islam, it would go a long way toward removing the whitewash and erasing much of the extra confusion surrounding the Koran.

The Atlantic has gone more leftish lo these past few years (especially that retard - Jack Beatty). I applaud them for actually marking the Freedom House study and not completely tossing it out the window, like Harper's would have. Lewis Lapham, eat shit and die.

Occasional Reader/Peacekeeper, The PRC do not need to concern themselves too much with anything remotely close to military supremacy with the US. Such a task is unnecessary and probably impossible. The PRC will not need to fight the US, nor are they planning seriously to do so. THe PRC is buying up Billions and Billions of US Treasury Debt notes, in effect supporting the US Dollar, if these were to start trickling back onto the open market, then the Damn bursts and everyone carrying US Treasury Debt runs for the exits, cue a devastating fall in the Dollar, a crash in equities, a crash in the housing market, skyrocketing interest rates and the probable collapse of Freedie and Fanny.
In recent months there have been unsubstantiated whispers of a smal sell off of US Debt notes by unnamed CHinese sources, each time the Dollar dipped, this has not been an accident, merely testing the water and as a veiled threat.
If and when the PRC chose to act on Taiwan, then the threat posed by US Military assistance to Taiwan is nullified, question, are you prepared to see the dollar collapse and pay the social costs this would incurr, to save Taiwan, answer undoubtedly no.

#117 Claire:

Saw the website, especially noted that CAIR provided information packets that were to be sent to local schools...

I found the list of muslim businesses to support, but was unable to find the businesses the mosque tells muslims to avoid.

Can you provide either the link or the page?

# 138 Milford:

Sorry, I meant they listed a bunch of Muslim businesses in their website. Now I conveniently know all the places in town to avoid!, lol.

I'd like to get my hands on that CAIR packet.

Also just found out that a barbeque joint in town is not allowed to serve pork because the landlord who rents the building to them is muslim.