“and hand the culprits over to an Islamic country for punishment.”

I agree.

Let's hand the editors of Newsweek over to the clerics.

I think it will be an educational experience for both parties.

Geez, how many jihads can you have at one time?

"Hey, wait a minute. I thought jihad meant a peaceful internal struggle for self-improvement?"

LGF, you silly blog, you. Don't you know that "jihad" means whatever it needs to mean at that moment to allow the "radical" Islamicists the bigger stake in victim-hood?

Oh, wait a minute, I guess you were being sarcastic. Never mind.

So what exactly is it they've been doing up until now?

I'd also like an official apology
(akin to the one Condi Rice gave to the Muslim world) for the
NEA's support of "Piss Christ", in which a crucifix was dumped in a jar of "urine".

And I'd like to see the US government affirm that it respects the symbols of the Christian faith, as it also respects Christians and eagerly accepts their participation in US democracy.

Otherwise, let the riots begin!

(sar/off)

As they whine and seethe with impotent fury over what appears to be a bogus report.

Jihad is perfectly allowed not just for "defensive" purposes, but also against those who are blocking the spread of Islam and impeding its growth.

OT:

check out this link

This site doesn't exactly work, but look to the left and see what sites it links too.

Hey, wait a minute. I thought jihad meant a peaceful internal struggle for self-improvement?

Uhm...I thought the LGF definition of jihad was...uh, well, sh!t?

Man, f*ck I'm tired of the goddamn fuslims.

Iran's mullahs give Europeans "Ultimatum"

A senior mullahs' regime official here Saturday called on the Europeans to abandon threats and continue negotiations with Tehran to iron out the differences over the country's nuclear energy program or else. The remarks by the head of the Iranian negotiating team, Sirous Nasseri, came after the Europeans warned Iran of 'consequences' with British Prime Minister Tony Blair citing possible report to the UN Security Council if Tehran resumes uranium reprocessing. "The Europeans, and better than all Mr. Blair, well know that any threats on the part of Europe, leading to a confrontation with Iran, will be a big strategic blunder for Europe,"

OT

US Gays launch boycott of Jerusalem Gay Pride

Where would they prefer to hold it? Tehran? Damascus? Ramallah?

please, PLEASE, launch yur holy war so that we can wipe you off the face of the planet - guilt free. the jihadists like ruthless, i think we could serve some good 'ol ruthless to 'em.

happy sunday all!

This is OT but may interest LGFers

What did Arafat die of?

Arafat's private physician, Ashraf al-Kurdi addresses the rumors that Arafat died of AIDS or was homosexual (for the first time as far as I know)

A petition is running at Palestinian web sites demanding an investigations into whether Arafat was poisoned (inside job?)

We should send teams of ACLU members to all Muslim countries to defend the practice of religious symbol desecration as an essential part of American free speech. They could take pictures of Andre Serrano’s “Piss Christ” and the “Holy Virgin Mary” (Dung Covered Madonna) by Chris Ofili as examples of desecration the ACLU has supported in the name of free speech. They could then describe how they were planning to ask the NEA to sponsor a performance art piece that would feature an American soldier throwing a Koran into the toilet in front of a Muslim prisoner to show the ACLU’s sympathy with Muslims. The piece would be performed nightly and would feature actual Korans to insure authenticity.

To show solidarity with peace loving Muslims the ACLU members could burn an American flag and shout “down with George Bush.”

For the last time, "jihad" is a peaceful internal struggle within oneself over whether or not one wishes to carve the heads off infidels.

5..4...3...2...1

Cue the western dhimmis/LLL schtick about

1) only a "minority" of moslems are fanatics
2) the US is to blame

What does jihad mean? I'm beginning to think it's kind of like the discussion I saw on lgf about the use of the 'n' word.

It means something different depending on who says it. If you're part of the "discriminated against minority", it's ok to say it and for it to mean "Muslim Holy War."

If you're not part of the "discriminated against minority", it must mean what the "discriminated against minority" means for it to say.

Because I'm not part of the "discriminated against minority", this definition itself is probably wrong.

This idea was formulated just a minute ago, so I'll welcome any expansion or dismantling of this theory.

I've made this point before- but since leftists are on a morally relativist conquest to vilify Christianity - can anyone imagine a modern day Christian behaving this way after finding out a stack of Bibles were flushed down some toilet?

Oh and the left are deliriously pissed over our detention of precious Muslims/enemy combatants in Guantanomo. Leftists display the very same reaction when a serial rapist/murderer is put to death. Leftists have the deepest feelings for the twisted, demented and the worst humanity has to offer - but they stand by and say nothing over genocide/murder of innocents in other countries.

# 12 Dave Ray

Actually it looks like it's going to be postponed anyway.

#14 amir 5/15/2005 08:44AM PDT
This is OT but may interest LGFers

What did Arafat die of?

Overdose of ugly?

#12 Dave

Would someone please have a tox-screen done of the water served at the Frisco Board of Supervisor meetings?

Crack... it's gotta be crack.

OT Zarqawi is said to be seriously wounded [Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

Arafat died after attending a Robin Williams film festival.

#14 amir

Actually another LGFer came up with a very good point about the denial that arafat had aids. I forgot who (and too lazy to look it up) but he basically asked: If his doctor was confident that he didn't have AIDS why did they test him regularly, and six months before his death.

“If that does not happen within three days, we will launch a jihad against America,”

Great...bring it. That way we can do more then flush your book.

I like Condor's idea the best. I see Newsweek has shifted their demographics to target an audience who actually believes what they write. Has anyone been keeping track of how many "holy" wars are being waged against us right now? I would dare say thanks to the USMC there are probably more "holy" wars than there are warriors.
BTW how many "holy" warriors can dance on the head of a pin?

I wonder how long it takes the DUmmies to jump all over this one?

One of my blogs contributers had some very insightful comments on this article.

In brief he says:

Three days? Hello, Afghan Muslim Clerics, are you there? On September 11th, 2001, (1,342 days ago, as I write this), one of your ‘clerics’ launched an attack against the United States by conspiring to steal by force, passenger laden aircraft and fly them into buildings. 3,283 persons were murdered by this cleric and 19 suicide attackers avoided punishment for their actions on this world, but hopefully are suffering their punishment in another world.

#18: What does Jihad mean? Some of it has been summed up here:

The Stages of Jihad

# Condor

Maybe we should tell the mad mullahs that this was a exhibtion done by a perfomance artis.
Just like the piss christ.
They can call it Tidy Bowl Man vs. Allah.

Everybody look at the hit whore.
/not

It's time these people learned to 'grow up' and stop using emotional or other forms of blackmail to get what they want. Kharzai should examine whether this anti-western sentiment represents a true trend in Afghanistan or simply 'growing pains' and the usual restlessness of a repressive group under pressure.

Send the News Week team to them for some "splaining."

Circle the 27th on your calendar. That's the day a bunch of excitable lads plan to get together for International Spit on Great Satan Day. It's bound to be an incendiary affair, full of flaming flags and hanging effigies. (Don't expect to see many Giant Puppet People, though. While they usually adore a good America-bashing, they might be concerned about becoming the targets, instead of the conveyors, of rage.)

Wonder if Newsweek will send anyone to cover it.

From the Article:

A group of Afghan Muslim clerics threatened on Sunday to call for a holy war against the United States in three days unless it hands over military interrogators reported to have desecrated the Koran.

There's a Middle Eastern Muslim group that HASN'T called for a holy war against us?

THAT'S the news story here...

Also, OT: Is oklhahoma that much closer to the sun? I put up a pool yesterday, and I got a wicked sunburn on my neck.. I've been putting Aloe Gel on it since last night, but it hurts quite a bit.. nothing serious enough to go to the doc, but still... that didn't used to happen where I used to live. not this bad.

Hre is a thread (comments page on BBC) regarding the BBC special "Powr of Nightmares" The comments are so off the wall from readers all over the world who buy into the conspiracy weaved by the objective BBC:

The Power of Nightmares: Your comments

Jihadiot Fatwats.

Here's a look at Jihad and how "peaceful" it is.

Newsweek is owned by the Washington Post. There has been massive selling of their stock the last few days and they are now at a 52-week low. Don't know if it has any connection with this or not.

I am thinking about shorting them tomorrow.

Unless I'm badly mistaken, you islamicpsychopaths may just overplay your hand, especially with this President, for if it comes down to you OR us as a last resort, you will be wandering man made deserts, for thousands of years and we will glady supply you this item.

#16 The Grand Mufti of Palestine

"jihad" is a peaceful internal struggle within oneself

Isn't that supposed to be a sin?

Again we see Islam as the religion of peace. Not! And where is the counter-protest from "moderate" Muslims who should be condemning these klerical kooks for acting on nothing more than unsubstantiated rumor? Did Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell or any other mainline Christian pastor call for just war against the NEA or the Supreme Court when the atheist Texas teacher threw the Bibles of two student into a trash can and called it garbage? No. I think there is a lesson in there for Muslims, CHILL OUT!

Too bad the liberal media won't mainstream the entirely plausible news that it may have been a Jihadist himself who is at the root of the story when he tore up the Koran and flushed it trying to make Mr. RotoRotor's life a living hell. And even if the original story proves true, so what, print a thousand more Korans to make up for the one flushed down the toilet.

Great "reporting" Newsweak...

#24 Ben B.:

I want him to have a slooow suuuccckkking wound...that gives him excrutiating AGONY--RIGHT BEFORE IT KILLS HIM!

Then I want his head in a bucket...like in "Khartoum"!

#38 Sean II

I looked at that... most of the comments are from other countries (alot of canada-eh and northern europe) and also places in the US that I sometimes wonder if they are also other countries, like NYC, and the liberal parts of California, and FLorida (where some aren't quite smart enough to: send armed guards in with hardened criminals, keep sexual predators under tabs, and vote)

No offense to the obviously intelligent few from NYC, CA and FL who are part of the LGF network. just a comment about the base in such places.

#42 El Cid:

A PERSONAL VIBRATOR? LOL!

I've never had the urge to piss on a book in public before. While there are other books that have made me consider wiping my ass with their pages, I've never before felt the urge to do that in public either.

Anyone care to host some koran desecrating video? I want to do naughty things to the pedophile's (piss be upon him) pack of lies, and I want muslims to feel the rage of the American street.

#12 Dave Ray

What a bunch of dumb ass fucks!

Sorry Mr. Afghan Clerics,

We can't hand over those interrogators who defiled the Quran. They're our guests. And we can't find them. Do you have proof they're responsible? Can you back up your account with two or more non-Muslim witnesses that will allow your claim to be heard in a court of anti-sharia law?

Have a JDAM as a parting gift. No, seriously, don't run. You'll die tired.

OT - Arafat, Inc.

Was he the visionary father of a new nation? Or was he the Palestinian godfather, boss of bosses over terrorists and thieves, a corrupter who stole billions and used the money to buy the loyalty of his supporters and line his own pockets while his people suffered?

I am going to go ut on a limb and say that it the second.

The clerics in the northeastern province of Badakhshan said they wanted President Bush to handle the matter honestly “and hand the culprits over to an Islamic country for punishment.”

Ahh, yeah right, we'll get right on that.

53 ploome hineni

That is the kindest thing I can say about them, not because they are homosexuals (I could not care less about anyone's sexuality) but because homosexuality is a crime in the Islamic world subject to being put to death. "Queers For Palestine" makes as much sense as "Jews for National Socialism."

Why do we allow the koran at Gitmo, anyway? It's just feeding their homocidal delusions.

Why don't they just flush a Newsweak down the toilet and call it even?

#41 [Engineer]

Newsweek is owned by the Washington Post. There has been massive selling of their stock the last few days and they are now at a 52-week low. Don't know if it has any connection with this or not.

Its probably related. Look at WPO vs the New York Times. I hope the Saudis own most of the stock.

Where are all the anti-religion fanatics now? I don't hear any of them condemning these clerics for wanting to wage war against the US for something they HEARD happened..

I guess they're still trying to tear crosses off of vetran's gravestones...

though, a small part of me wants to hear them blame the US for angering them by not being sensitive to their religious views that they have a 'right' to have...

Besides... its all moot. we all know that only white males committ crimes

and if you're a white christian male, then its a hate crime.

(remember all the press talking about how Tim McVeigh was a christian, and that David Koresh's group was a cult based on christian principles... rubbish all.)

#31 Norweigen kafir - another good post. The real "money quote" is this:

"Simply put, jihad is anything undertaken to advance the spread of Islam, peaceful or not. Which means that jihad is always present, even if there should be an absence of violence. Da’wah, missionary work and calling to Islam, is also part of jihad, and is utilized until such a time that physical jihad is made possible through greater numbers."

#37 lancekates
On your OT: aloe vera or sábila as it's called her (Mexico), only works when it's fresh. I cut a leaf off one of my plants and use it, works great then. It's also good for the stomach, which is what most people here use it for. A "skinned" leaf(you filet it like a fish to get to the meat) will last in the refrigerator for a week or you can freeze it and thaw it later for use.

On topic: It's obvious that they're just looking for an excuse, since they know the US is not going to hand over anyone to a mo*slime country.
They give out jihads like lollipops, only lollipops are more useful.
That's how we should term it when someone calls for a jihad: "Oh, they're giving out lollipops again!"

I pledge to contact some of Newsweeks advertisers over the next few days.

If only I knew who they are - I won't even touch the free newsWEAK copies laying around in the doctors office.

Funny how the MSM only reports the shrieking seething Clerics... the millions of Afghans who walked for days to cast a vote, the women who voted... what do they think? We will never know will we, since the MSM doesn't want us to know. It doesn't serve their purpose...

“If that does not happen within three days, we will launch a jihad against America.”

So that's, um, Wednesday the...ah...18th. Oooh, I've got a couple of conference calls that day, that doesn't work for me. Can we do this Thursday?

If a bunch of barbarians rage impotently, and nobody listens, do they still seethe?

48 foreign devil

A PERSONAL VIBRATOR?

I guess you could say that, developed by Hans Geiger ...:).

Gringo @ 63

That's how we should term it when someone calls for a jihad: "Oh, they're giving out lollipops again!"

Si, es verdad.. Gracious..

Belize @ 66

If a bunch of barbarians rage impotently, and nobody listens, do they still seethe?

Yeah, especially if the MSM would quit ragging them on...

Hi everyone:
Don't know if it's already been covered but:
This looks seriously scary. I can see 1,000s for muslim men joining Jihad over this bogus story. Even if Newsweek issues a retraction, you can bet no one in the Muslim world will be aware of it.

I can see dozens of our troops being killed over this (in Iraq and elsewhere). This may have had something to do with the low turnout in Muslims against terror rally.

When you consider that Newsweek published this story based on one anonymous email, this story really stinks.

I believe they did this because the WOT was going too well, and they decided to through a monkey wrench into the works.

This smells alot like Rathergate, and I will continue to believe this until Newsweek proves they had more to go on than a malicious intent to hurt Bush.

In summary fellow lizards:
"LIBERALS ARE TRAITORS! THE MSM IS THE ENEMY!"

#65 Bubble Girl

Don't you remember? Bush/Cheney/Halliburton/MasterRove staged the vote... any men and women that came to vote were eaten.

Didn't you get the memo?

Just do a quick search for "Koran desecration violence" or any related terms and this is NOT a new excuse.

They have been using it for years to wage violent attacks, especially on Christian churches in areas where there are no Jews to fault and blame.

Anyone see this

Mexican leader criticized for comment on blacks

(CNN) -- The Rev. Jesse Jackson on Saturday criticized Mexican President Vicente Fox's comment that Mexican immigrants to the United States take jobs "that not even blacks want to do."

I believe the average person in the world is about as bigoted as the average member of the KKK.

Were it a bible being flushed down the toilet we'd have the LLL freaks screaming about freedom of speech.

Odd how they haven't piped in.

The thing is - even if Newsweek got the story correct - WHO CARES?

The Koran isn't any more holy or special than any other book. The fact that Muslims fall to pieces and start burning things/killing people proves yet again what spoiled brats they are. No wonder leftists take their side.

Snotty indulgent mis-fits gravitate towards each other.

“If that does not happen within three days, we will launch a jihad against America.”

Didn't an organization which was based in Afghanistan already launch a jihad on September 11, 2001?

Hey, I ran out of toilet paper and had to use my copy of the koran to wipe my ass.

Greyhawk vetted Eric and Viv who seemed to pre-hyping a book.

It's just dead people you'll never have to meet Eric and Viv. Pretty soon Americans and lots mor Afgahnis. Cash those Newsweek checks.

Here's the latest from Grewhawk

and the origingal identifying the "Source" of the story at Newsweek, as Eric and Viv.

P.S. try flushing a book down your toilet, ANY book ... report back the results here.

#20 Free Speech only for ultra liberals

These are the same people who demand the right to murder a totally innocent baby and yet stand outside a prision where a convicted serial rapist and murderer awaits execution and denounces the goverment and those who want to see the guilty receive the ultimate punishment.

They denounce the Israelis for protecting themselves and praise the murdering hoards of palestinians who slaughter totally innocent civilians and tourists.

The denounce the US for removing the taliban and hussein and in turn saving tens of thousands of innocent lives, but they shout the praises of the thugs and terrorists who attack civilians, police officers and recruits and those who go to the polls.

Yes, liberals are always on the wrong side of civilized society. If not for the support of brain-dead MSM, the majority of the American people would have long ago sent most liberal politicians into their own HELL; irrelevance.

Liberals: Murder the Innocent and Protect the Vile and Inhumane.

The clerics in the northeastern province of Badakhshan said they wanted President Bush to handle the matter honestly "and hand the culprits over to an Islamic country for punishment."

Sure coming right up! Freaking camel jockeys.

#70 Frozen Al

When you consider that Newsweek published this story based on one anonymous email, this story really stinks.

If you have a link to a credible source saying that they published this information based on an anonymous e-mail, could you please post it? If proves to be correct, it needs to be publicized!

#70 Frozen Al

If I had a son or daughter die over this crap story ... I'd personally handcuff Eric and Viv in a VBIED and deliver them to the 300 clerics.

Andrew Bostom

[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]

59 ploome hineni

I know you were just kidding.

#81 Momzilla - please see and use the links kindly provided by Havoc at #78.

BTW - thanks for the links, Havoc!

GASP - Muslim clerics threatening holy war? wow, what a strange and unpredictable development.

I say that we hand over the editors of Newsweek.

(Ever-so-slightly) OT

In advance of the May 16 ME Peace symposium in Toronto, I've just had a skim through the 1988 Hamas Charter.

Wow. It's almost a charicature of the foaming, barking-mad islamist mindset (I can just picture the drafters in their kaftans, jibjabs and ratty little beards). Jew-hatred? Check. Protocols of the Elders of Zion? Check- the foundation of the Charter. Jews responsible for everything from WW1 to the common cold? Check. A call to all-out jihad agsinst Israel and the West? Check. Lotsa goofy Qur'anic references? Check- I always love the one of the tree calling out that there's a Jew behind it and that the Jew should be killed.

Uhhh, let's see... we should give them a state, right?

#79 Journey

I could not agree more. Liberalism is a disease.

When haven't they threatened a holy war?

A holy war?

Crap, just when RV season was about to kick off.

I can't believe anyone gives a damn about what these morons think.

Why isn't Hamid Kharzai addressing this nonsense anyway? I saw him in a video clip somewhere saying that it was simply 'freedom of expression' now in 'Democratic Afghanistan'. WTF?

Yesterday I gave Zarkawi and bin Laden exactly 48 hours to either turn themselves in or commit "martyrdom" before I begin flushing one Koran per day. They still have 24 hours to save the Koran.

Just a couple of prior incidents:

Muslim extremists have burned down 10 Christian churches in Nigeria in an attack thought to have been sparked by a mentally retarded Christian teenager desecrating the Quran. [Link: www.worldnetd...]

Date : February 7, 1997 ---A mob of 30,000 Muslim rioter on Thursday went on the
rampage in a central Pakistani town, setting fire to two Christian churches in violence which left two people dead, the police said. The police earlier to disperse the mob, protesting against alleged desecration of the Quran, by the Christians. [Link: www.hvk.org...]

#73 Luigi

Did you miss the last two lines of the article?

But Jackson stopped short of saying Fox should apologize. "I don't know about that," he said, adding that the comment was "unwitting, unnecessary, and inappropriate."

I want to know who that imposter is and what did he do with the real Rev. Jackson!

...and we fund our own citizens to immerse crucifixes in tanks of urine.

what's so holy about the holy koran?

Slightly OT -

Sigh... another honor killing ("West Bank resident" is Israeli MSM-speak for Arab...).

78 Havoc

P.S. try flushing a book down your toilet, ANY book ... report back the results here.

there are copies of those mini-qurans. mebbe the imam's are suffering from "small quran complex"

wait! lemme see if i can find one, flush it down the loo, and see what happens...

flushing

SHIIIT!

It seems that there is not a day that goes by without the Religion of Peace™ (MA) making news somewhere in the world. I long for the days when I never gave this vile cult a passing thought... and wonder if there will ever come a day in the future when it doesn't enter my consciousness.

To these mullahs and their damn jihad... be careful what you wish for.

I get so very tired of this crap.As noted before by many LGFers we have had the " piss christ" the bible used as tp,ect,yet we have no christians running down the street,cutting off heads.i,m quite sure of this because , you see, if it happened even once 10 years from now we would still be hearing about it.And yet our goverment is sayibg we will have an investagation of this,and left wing pundits telling us not to "enflame the Arab steet"

You have to hand it to the MSM. They have the power to start wars! Maybe some reverence is in order. But maybe not.

OT: Probably the best example of BBC anti-Semitism I've ever seen: Stigma of life in 'Traitors' Village'

It's poisonous all the way through but the best is at the end:

In front of a large crowd, Muhammad Mansour was beaten, shot at close range in the side of the head ... It was a display of Old Testament-style brutality

OT-

Saudis keep it in the family

Apparently incest is best in Saudi Arabia.

My favorite part:

"This is an ultra sensitive issue for the government and Islamic religious establishment. It has been compounded by the Prophet Muhammad's own family. His daughter, Fatimah, was married to her cousin Ali, who was a revered Imam. Several other members of the Prophet's family and inner circle were married to close blood relatives."

Sicko bastards.

101 snoutcounter
left wing pundits telling us not to "enflame the Arab steet"

exactly the mantra the Eurabians have been practicing for hundreds of years. look where it's got them.

...still running scared.

He puts us under Fatwa and screams holy war?

Haven't we already been under fatwa and Muslim holy war for frikkin YEARS NOW?

Same jihad, different day.

What's wrong with using the Koran as asswipe?

It was a display of Old Testament-style brutality

I'd like to display a little Elohim style old testy smiting right about now...

MFers.

One thing, when they use the "someone mistreated the Koran" justification, it is always aimed at keeping the Muslims enraged --loaded for blood lust.

Their biggest fear is when things DO calm down and they ARE treated well. To be a victim of "oppression" one has to keep being "victimized" even if it means creating the appearance of it.

Im still waiting for some enterprising person to come out with the koran-turd-o-gram.

It would be quite simple - obtain plenty of korans (preferably steal them) , hollow them out, lovingly place a fresh pile inside, mail them to the customers choice of islamic organizations with a small note of gratitude for their wonderful humanitarian work.

Sounds like a money maker to me.

#107 BabbaZee

Could not have said it better!

Man o man. *Everybody's a critic these days*

#109 MootPoint

Give a warning will ya, almost lost a cup of coffee on that one, I am going to register this one right away: K.T.O.G. LLC

#109 Mootman

It would be quite simple - obtain plenty of korans (preferably steal them) , hollow them out, lovingly place a fresh pile inside, mail them to the customers choice of islamic organizations with a small note of gratitude for their wonderful humanitarian work.

Holy Shi'ite, Mootman! To the MootCave to begin the business venture!

OT

The National Peace Officer Memorial is showing live on C-span

[Link: www.c-span.org...]

My suspicion, BTW, since one of the editors for the original leaked piece [Inside the Wire, IIRC] was a Time reporter, is that it was leaked in order to provide 'insurance' so the Pentagon would approve the work.

I mean, once it's out there, why should they turn it down on those grounds?

ummm... how tiny are those korans they managed to flush down a toilet? millimeter size? it's so sad that they don't yet know what a toilet is, no less what you could manage to flush down one.

#112 contractem

As long as you give me a volume discount price, its all yours.

K.T.O.G. LLC

Or, how about:

Korans O'Crap LLC

I don't understand why they have to do this jihad stuff if allah is offended. After all, if he is so akhbar and all, if somebody does something to piss him off, like I'm doing now, why doesn't the ground open up or something?

I'm waiting...

Nothing happened.

Imagine my surprise.

Allah Fubar!

#109 MOOT POINT

In fact, if we could set up a quality control process, where we could certify the fresh piles come only from Jews, we could call it the K.K.T.O.G.LLC
Koran Kosher Turd-O Gram, I smell a winner,pun intended.

How about "Korap-to-Grams?"

I know several people who wipe with a Koran page on a regular basis and then wash themselves using the American flag as towel- just to be fair.

OT - Sometimes you just have to laugh at death.

OT

ABC runs AP wire story that is essentially nothing but a Palestinian propaganda piece

Palestinian Rallies Mournfully Mark Day Israel Was Created 57 Years Ago

By MOHAMMED DARAGHMEH Associated Press Writer

RAMALLAH, West Bank May 15, 2005 — Angry protesters marched through the streets and sirens brought traffic to a halt throughout the West Bank and Gaza on Sunday as Palestinians mournfully commemorated the day Israel was created, calling it one of the darkest days in their history.

While Israelis held barbecues, concerts and launched fireworks to celebrate the 57th anniversary of their independence Thursday according to the date on the Hebrew calendar Palestinians see the day very differently, marking it Sunday as Al-Nakba, which is Arabic for "the catastrophe."

"Our people will never forget and the generations will never forget," Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas said in a speech aired on Palestine TV. "On that day, a crime was committed against a people, who were uprooted from their land and whose existence was destroyed...

...blah blah blah for three more pages -- an unadulterated presentation of the "Palestinian narrative."

It really looks like AP has utterly dhimmified itself. Probably due to PC intimidation, they hire Palestinians as stringers (to show how "fair" they are) and let them write total propaganda articles, then kindly edit the articles to match AP style, and release them on the wires.

Inch by inch into dhimmitude. And the propaganda seeps into society.

116-

I don't know, but I've been curious about that myself.
Therefore, I'm doing an experiment: I'm gathering together Korans of various sizes and flushing them down toilets of various sizes in an attempt to reproduce this alleged incident.

Maybe I'll be able to get my findings published in Modern Plumbing...I figure a nice chart will come in handy for avoiding expensive repairs.

Maybe I'll include a sidebar detailing the best ways to dislodge an offending Holy Book from your pipes. {Mullah Plumber works best so far]

Good analysis over at Power Line

and notice that when the freakishly hatefilled burn an American flag - we may get mad, but we don't start burning things/killing people as a result.

Inch by inch into dhimmitude. And the propaganda seeps into society.

The work is much and the workmen are blind and lazy, Zombie. You, me, Charles, every person on this site and everywhere on the planet that has even one ounce of knowledge must be viligant against this insidious dhimmification of our people.

You are a soldier Zombie, and a great one.

condor #5

I'd also like an official apology (akin to the one Condi Rice gave to the Muslim world) for the NEA's support of "Piss Christ", in which a crucifix was dumped in a jar of "urine".

Think any great American "artist" will ever have the nerve to create a "Piss Koran"? This current and previous displays of Muslim insanity can't help but cause many to pause before criticizing Islam. I certainly don't advocote such insults to Christians or Muslims, but I hope Americans will not be cowed into silence and refrain from criticizing Islam. The justifiable reasons to criticize this cult are endless.

At least this latest display of Muslim lunacy and insanity will show a few more westerners what so many of them are all about.

Islam is rabies of the mind and soul. Only one thing to do with a rabid beast...

JWM

What? I can't use the Qoran as an alternate toilet paper? Why not? These idiots never heard of freedom of speech?

# 125 zombie

Probably due to PC intimidation, they hire Palestinians as stringers (to show how "fair" they are) and let them write total propaganda articles, then kindly edit the articles to match AP style, and release them on the wires.

It's more than PC intimidation. The wire services here cannot use anyone who is not 'Palestinian' over the green line (the Paleos will kill anyone else). There is no other coverage. If I had the time, I would find you one of the several articles that have discussed this in the last four years (I'd be shocked if none of them was on LGF).

#121 contractem

"ok - now we're even" MootPoint says as he finishes wiping his spewed coffee off his monitor.

If the allegations are true, the only things desecrated were toilets. Hand over the perpetrators to the folks at Standard.

#79 LoneSome Journey

Well said. Sometimes the truth just has to be spelled out.

#102 greenmamba

Probably the best example of BBC anti-Semitism I've ever seen:

Holy spit, this is a new low, even for the BBC.

Stigma of life in 'Traitors' Village'

I knew he was a collaborator, and he knew, I knew he was a collaborator, but the 50-year-old sheikh still danced around the issue.

"It is you who said 'collaborator'. I say I am someone who had to do something because my life was in danger.''

He was looking at me askance, from under a pristine, white headdress, pulling on a cigarette as he skilfully delivered this subtle piece of semantic revisionism.

The BBC is swimming in a sea of snot.

#136

Well this is the only use I can think for the shitty Koran...

#88 Earl

Don't forget the part about the Jewish tree.

Ok.

I guess they are right. Time for war.

We gave doing the "right thing" a pretty good shot, but it didn't work. No more removing dictators, giving people a shot a freedom and self rule... no more ending genocide and mass graves...time to bring our boys home.

And as soon as the last of our units pulls out... it's time to warm up the REAL minutemen for action.

I will put OUR Minutemen any day.

Power Line has a good round-up of Newsweek's disgraceful behaviour. They link to Newsweek's confession:

Last Friday, a top Pentagon spokesman told us that a review of the probe cited in our story showed that it was never meant to look into charges of Qur'an desecration. The spokesman also said the Pentagon had investigated other desecration charges by detainees and found them "not credible." Our original source later said he couldn't be certain about reading of the alleged Qur'an incident in the report we cited, and said it might have been in other investigative documents or drafts. Top administration officials have promised to continue looking into the charges, and so will we. But we regret that we got any part of our story wrong, and extend our sympathies to victims of the violence and to the U.S. soldiers caught in its midst.

[Link: powerlineblog.com...]

#125 Zombie

The same propaganda piece appears in Al-Guardian [Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

Time for Americans to buy a paperback copy of the koran --- and rip it up for use as arse wipe as the cameras roll --- it's CRUSADE Time, mohammedans!

>>hand the culprits over to an Islamic country for punishment

Fair enough.

This Psycho-Barbarian lunatic outpouring of "Jihad", trip-wired by an insignificant news story (the truth of which is irrelevant)--shows the pent-up level of total craziness that rests in the hands of these Islamic Clerics who control the decision making that supports encourages and funds terrorism and in Iran Nuclear capability--(1.3 billion Muslim followers world wide)--despite the recent total annihilation of the military capability of the Taliban including wholesale carpet bombing eradicating any possible retaliatory capability in Afghanistan --it's Clerics are still yapping about Jihad--the bottom line is, any of the world's 56 Islamic Autocracies will use any excuse to fulminate and escalate the terror tool to furthur their agendas--Only U.S. leadership with a clear vision of what is required to exterminate terror, constitutes the only existing barrier to prevent global catastrophy. .

OT:

I've gotta say, their is absolutely no point in doing a cease-fire with the palestinians

Nope the reason (this time) isn't that they'll break it with lightening speed.

They are so fragmented that their is no single representative organization.

Even the ones that are technically the "one" are also fifty different things.

#133 Pitiricus

If we get the Koran and Hadiths printed together, in a single volume, we could call it a Double Roll. "Lasts twice as long."

#141, #145 Han_Solo

I can't get your first Minuteman link or the link in 145 to work...

Sorcerer #103

Saudi Arabia's cousin-marriage epidemic. Analyst cites negative health effects of age-old practice in kingdom

Headline from the article you link. I keep thinking there have to some negative traits coming through after generations of first-cousin marriages, other than the severe mental and physical defects that show up in some.

I think the outbreak of insanity over this alleged Koran desecration could be another result of all the inbreeding. Unfortunately, that's not a joke.

"we will launch a jihad against America,” said a statement issued by about 300 clerics...

Hey, wait a minute. I thought jihad meant a peaceful internal struggle for self-improvement?

300 clerics must not have gotten the memo..

Need a break from the stress of Global Jihad?

Do the Lynndie

Do you want to be the best diminutive, pea-brained, gender-bending torturer in the world? Well this is the kind of thing you need to be aiming for.

More revolting OT

Today is the 31st anniversary of the Ma'alot massacre, but the BBC's wayback machine reveals that even in 1974 they infused their articles with moral equivalence and not-so-subtle biased phraseology:

1974: Teenagers die in Israeli school attack

Sixteen teenagers have died along with three Palestinians holding them hostage at an Israeli school.

Up to seven children were injured, nine critically, after Israeli troops stormed the building in an attempt to free the youngsters in Ma'alot, five miles (eight kilometres) from the Lebanese border.

Ugh! Argh! I'm about to pop a vein! Let me rewrite that headline and lede the way it ouight to have been written in a sane world:

Palestinian Terrorists Massacre Innocent Children

A group of Marxist Palestinian terrorists killed 16 schoolchildren before Israeli soldiers burst in and killed three of the attackers...

Notice carefully the passive syntax in the BBC version: some teenagers and Palestinians have died. How sad.

The media bias has been around for decades. Only in the last couple of years has the blogosphere started to expose it.

We have a huge job ahead of us, folks.

Hand over Isikoff and Barry and let them take the Islam version of "the lie detector test".
Maybe they'll think twice next time before they publish rumors with far-reaching consequences.

Reasons to Hate Muslims, Part 33,333,333

The clerics in the northeastern province of Badakhshan said they wanted President Bush to handle the matter honestly “and hand the culprits over to an Islamic country for punishment.”

Well, World War IV starts in earnest now, and it's all due to an unsupported claim by Newsweek about what some U.S. questioners supposedly did to a BOOK (not to a human being, but to a BOOK.)

Every murder of an American from now on will probably be dedicated to revenge for this one claimed act.

People have been saying that we've used hyperbole in describing how NUTZOID our enemies happen to be.

WE HAVEN'T EVEN SCRATCHED THE SURFACE.

The war is on now. Our nutzdoid, head chopping, child sacrificing enemies have finally found something worth blowing up the whole world over - a claim that a specific instance of a book was put in the wrong room and given a watery grave.

Here we go...

P.S. Does a book fit down a toilet? It wouldn't fit in mine. Does Newsweek even ask themselves such questions?

They can talk about jihad all they want but so far it is not Americans who are dying in this stupidity.

The soldiers are right there, so why rape and hang young women?

How about picking on someone your own size jihadis?

LLL moonbats/LLL MSM and islam deserve each other. Yes, send Newsweek editors over to Riyaddh. Oh they just came back? Ahhh, that's where this story was hatched! Islam the death cult will issue a jihad in three days? Bush/Rice should tell these children to grow up real fast, or all $$ donations to islamic countries will be cancelled. Oops, cannot do that oe Saudis will cancell shipping oil to USA. What to do then?

We will launch a jihad against America...

These guys had better not push it. If they're not careful, they'll wish their Jihad Jihadn't. Don't think we've forgotten: [Link: www.zombietime.com...]
Thank you zombie for your contributions.

153 Geepers 5/15/2005 10:28AM PDT

Geepers, that kinda stuff can get outta hand.

[Link: blamebush.typepad.com...]

The "Religion of Peace" strikes again.

It's us or them, people.

Afghan clerics threaten Muslim holy war over Toilet Joke Book.

Two words: Bring it.

#148

Now this would be marketing!

Dave Ray
those QUIT wankers are a piece of work, they support Muslim animals who'd kill them in order to hold up their perverted leftwing agenda!

opine6 #155

Maybe they'll think twice next time before they publish rumors with far-reaching consequences.

I hate to say anything to lessen the justiable criticism of Newsweek. I think it's about like Rathergate. They saw a chance to write another story that cast America and the Bush administration in a bad light, so they leaped before they looked.

But this will also fall alongside the Rushdie affair as another example of what can happen when anyone exercises free speech (or careless speech) that offends Muslims. The lunacy can't help but cause people second thoughts before they criticize Islam in the future. That can be the negative aspect of this, and something that needs to guarded against. Islam needs much more criticism (truth) on an ongoing basis.

I would like to repeat that these bastards have bombed and destroyed the giant Buddhas at Bamyan.

Nobody in the world did anything to protect those masterworks, sacred for the Buddhists and a treasure of art belonging to Mankind.

Centuries before, the muslim artillery had used the Sphinx, in Egypt, for target practice.

It's time to throw these bastards and their mad ideology out of history.
THIS is the holy war.

#141 Han_Solo

Funny you should mention minutemen, yesterday at the Save Our State rally in Baldwin Park Ca. A 66 year old lady, who had recently returned from the Minuteman Project was hit in the head with a bottle.

Everything that we argued the monument stood for was reinforced by the hundreds of activists who opposed our presence in Baldwin Park. Numerous times we were told that this land is Mexico and that they were taking it back. Numerous times racists epithets were hurled away. One person even hurled a full water bottle at our side and sent one of our activists to the hospital with bleeding in the brain. Unfortunately, she is now in the intensive care unit and we are all praying and hoping for the best.

Save Our State forum

BignJames (#161),

LOL.

The courtroom was silent as the military judge read the list of charges against Pvt. Lynndie England. Among them:

1. Five counts of leading naked men around by a leash without an official Dominatrix license issued by the mayor of San Francisco,

2. Three counts of piling naked men on top of each other outside the confines of an accredited Ivy League fraternity,

3. One count of repeatedly saying "Nee" until Iraqi prisoners brought her a shrubbery,

and the most heinous crime of all, an act of such inhuman brutality that it makes the Rape of Nan King look like a Sunday picnic:

4. Eleven counts of genital mocking.

[whispered]

"The horror, the horror."

#167 Poitiers-Lepanto
Centuries before, the muslim artillery had used the Sphinx, in Egypt, for target practice.

Holy Sh*t! I never knew that. Here's a link to the real story: Sphinx damaged by Muslims, not French.

The 1m wide nose on the face is missing. It has long been presumed that the nose had been broken off by a cannon ball fired by Napoléon's soldiers. Sketches of the Sphinx by Frederick Lewis Norden made in 1737 and published in 1755 illustrate the Sphinx without a nose. However, an Arab historian from the 15th century attributes the vandalism to a Muslim fanatic in 1378. This explanation is corroborated by recent evidence which suggests that two bars, used as levers, were inserted at the base of the nose to remove it between the 10th and 15th centuries.

In school, I was taught the LIE that crass Europeans had shot the nose off, to the great dismay of the Muslims who cherished their heritage.

Everything I thought I knew was a lie! Thank you for alerting me to this, Poitiers.

#126 urthshu - hehehe... good idea. this is probably all mock-news. it's simply too stupid.

#168 Bordm

That is absolutely shocking !
I had no idea that things were already going so bad !

I am very angry about that !
And the poor Woman was nearly killed !

Centuries before, the muslim artillery had used the Sphinx, in Egypt, for target practice.

Nearly as bad it was the French.

#170 Zombie

You are welcome.

Evidently we have different sources, but I think (I will check) that even the so called "French" version refers to MUSLIM troops in Napoleon's Army in the Egypt campaign.

At what point do we make threatening "jihad" and the murder of Americans an act that we actually respond to?

I mean, they're all gathering in one place to threaten to kill us ...

This is the problem with how we've been "fighting" Islamism for the last 40 years or so ... they keep declaring war on us and we keep more or less ignoring them or giving them a hard time with immigration (occasionally) ... then, when they manage to actually hit us, we act all surprised, as if we couldn't have possibly seen it coming. It's much better now but we're still doing WAY too much reacting.

Would it be such a BAD thing if these thugs declared war on us (again)?

Wouldn't that kinda take the handcuffs off US in fighting back?

If some self-appointed "leaders" set off a nuclear explosive on US soil, for instance (like crashing two jets into the WTC wasn't enough), would the American public still be conflicted over wiping out the bastards?

(Probably not.)

Would the liberal politicians and the totally moonbat media still be castigating the United States?

(Yes. But they wouldn't have credibility with anybody but themselves anymore.)

Last question... Does Newsweek feel dirty for being part of the islamist propaganda machine?

(Well, only if it might hurt circulation or advertising.)

So, my opinion, is, yeah, sure, fellas, DECLARE WAR.

(Good plan.)

And Newsweek, TIME, New York Times, and the rest of you, by all means, run it front page, full banner headlines.

(Then I suggest you get your f*cking asses out of the way.)

This is one for the "Mythbusters". Can a koran be flushed down a toilet without it backing up? Come on Adam and Jamie, give it a try! The world wants to know.

#172 Poitiers-Lepanto

Things have been going bad for a few years now. This is not the first time the Mechistas have attacked protestors. They attacked American citizens in front of the Westwood Federal building July 4, 2000. They are taught that we stole this land from them and they have every right to take it back. They have zero respect for U.S. citizens or the U.S.A.

July 4, 2000 incident

I would say who cares about a bunch of crazy Muslims rioting and killing each other over this grave "insult" and "desecration" of the Koran. But with the anti-American, anti-Bush sentiment of the EU and the US liberals this will probably end up in the UN with some kind of ridiculous vote to condemn the US over something that probably didn't even happen. It makes no difference that Newsweek story is admittedly false, the Muslims, the EU and the liberals will never believe us because they are so wrapped up in their anti-American insanity that it is impossible for them to see the truth. The only way for the US to make these people happy is execute every non-Muslim citizen in the US and the world. This would make them happy for about two weeks then they would start killing each other again over some other perceived "insult", and of course blame it all on the US.

#125 zombie

Naqba Akbar!

#178 Bordm

Thank you for the link.

What could they do with California, transform it in another third-world hell ?
Idiots.

Van Impe #177,

Well, actually Allah has already shown that you can "flush down the toilet" half of the Koran, and still call it a holy book. Its called abrogation, and its one more big reason why Allah, poor, hapless author that he is, can't be trusted or believed in when it comes to living up to any standard in the "infinite wisdom" department. That is why introducing even a modicum of rational thinking and debate to Muslims, in compelling them to examine and defend their texts, is a serious threat to their personal faith. This is why they'll always resort to emotional tantrums and threats.

Bordm #168,

Yesterday it was reported that Vincente Fox made a comment about American blacks, saying Mexican "immigrants" (actually, 88-90% of Mexicans living in the U.S. came here illegally) take jobs "blacks no longer want". What I want to know is what it is that makes Mexicans be given privilege over all other immigrant groups, and how it is that a president ( a corrupt bag of shit, which I would gladly tell him to his face) can presume to speak for an entire race?

#181 Poitiers-Lepanto

Parts of southern California and south Texas already ARE a third-world hell hole. Hospitals are going broke and closing because they are overwhelmed by the crush of illegals flooding the ER’s for free treatment. The State of Texas steals money from other school districts to pay for the influx of illegals in the border schools. Some sneak across the border in the morning to go to school here, then slip back home at night. One of the reasons I moved out of Houston was because it is a sanctuary city where police are not allowed to check the status of latino’s who don’t understand a word of English. It’s a helluva mess here and getting worse every day.

#182 reader

I saw that article and I am anxiously waiting for the NAACP’s response………
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still waiting……
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Hmm, All I hear is the sound of crickets.

#167 Poitiers-Lepanto  5/15/2005 10:46AM PDT

"I would like to repeat that these bastards have bombed and destroyed the giant Buddhas at Bamyan."

That was a memorable instance of Islamic barbarism. I remember being struck by the fact that, after all the Taliban's savage killings -- the infamous soccer stadium of death, for example -- that it was the destruction of stone statues that finally got the world's attention, and not the mere destruction of human life. And I was especially struck by the quote from the Islamoid in the news article about the statue's destruction (bolded below):

NEW DELHI, March 3, 2001— The Great Buddhas of Bamiyan — priceless artifacts that 800 years ago survived the wrathful cannon fire of Genghis Khan — are being steadfastly destroyed bit by bit with hammers, spades and explosives, Afghanistan's Taliban militia stated officially today for the first time.
"The head and legs of the Buddha statues in Bamiyan were destroyed yesterday," Mawlawi Qudratullah Jamal, the Taliban's minister of information and culture, told reporters in Kabul, Afghanistan's capital. "Our soldiers are working hard to demolish the remaining parts. They will come down soon." He said he anticipated no difficulties: "It is easier to destroy than to build."

"It is easier to destroy than to build."

That's Islam in a nutshell.

Scene takes place in front of a mosque somewhere in Afghanistan...a UPS driver walks up to the mullah in front:
UPS Guy: koranagram for Mr Mullah...I have a koranagram for a Mr Mullah...
Mullah:(raises his hand) I am a mullah...
UPS Guy:(smiles politely) I have here a koranagram for you from the president of the United States!
Mullah:(overcome with surprise) Oh, Allah truly does favor us! Give it here!
[The UPS guy hands it over...and the mullah opens it reverently. He peers down expecting to see the writings of The Holy One, but sees a steaming pile laying in the hollowed-out pages]
Mullah:(angry shock) What is this? This is an abominal act! Jihad! Jihad against the Americans!
UPS Guy:(rolls his eyes) What...again? Can't you folks ever come up eith something different? I mean sheesh...
Scene closes as the driver walks away, leaving the mullah seething with impotent rage

#185 Victor

"It is easier to destroy than to build."

Here they go !
That's the motto for the islamic anti-Masonry !

another flare-up in the hemorrhoid that is Islam

Let them jihad and let's get this holy war over with. Let's see how many Muslims are actually willing to die for that religion and let's help them along their merry way. The Buddhists aren't putting up with them in Thailand, and neither should anyone else.

No need to wipe our own arses with the pathetic drivel of the shitty koran - after all, it might be a bit rough. Find some pigs, drop a copy in the pen and video them eating it and trampling it into the pigshit. Send copies of the video to all the [bigoted word] news agencies and watch gleefully as they seethe themselves to death. Dont forget kiddies, the fifteen worthless fucks dead so far in the riots are ALL muslim; do you give a shit? Me neither

If you desecrate an American Flag or chop off a hostages head, then someone in the USA will desecrate a koran. We don't like it when you do it and you don't like it when we do it.

A good link to criminal alien stats. Nope, they are't all good people who come here to work.
On the bright side, just let Fox keep on talking. It's so helpful having an opponent who keeps putting his foot in his mouth.
a[Link: mensnewsdaily.com...]

#192 bordergal

Great article.
I’ve been complaining about the illegal invasion issue to anyone who would listen for over 25 years. I have some hope (but not much), now that it is finally being brought out in the open, by bloggers, the internet, Lou Dobbs (THE only show worth a damn on CNN), FOX news, Michelle Malkin and others. I pray that we have not slept so long, that we won’t be able stop this invasion without bloodshed. Unfortunately, since groups like La Raza aka the Tan Klan, whose motto is ” For those within The Race, everything; for those outside The Race, nothing”, MECha, and other believers of the Aztlan myth have been allowed to flourish and spew their hatred and lie with impunity, all I can see ahead is escalating violence. I doubt that they are going to accept that their movements are based on fiction any time soon.

I missed combat action when I was in the Marine Corps. I will spend the next 3 days gathering weapons and ammo for this holy war.
The muslims should practice yellin' "holy shit" as projectiles travel down range to the targets, them.

Do they think we will spend time quaking in our boots? What do they think we are, liberals?

C'mon muslims I got something for your [bigoted word]ed asses.

Why do they insist on acting like stereotypes?

Derka Derka Jihad.

I'm going to find a Koran and flush it.

Every time I begin to think that Bush is right and that there is hope for the Islamic word, some bunch of a**holes like these Afghan "clerics" open their mouths and prove us wrong.

Newsweek did this as part of their philosophy that America and the US military are always wrong (unless of course there's a Dem in the Whitehouse) and it backfired. Their response seems to be one of "well everyone makes mistakes, lets move on now."

While Newsweek's actions are reprehensible the core problem lies in Islam. This is a so-called religion that values a book more than human life; a "religion" that sees nothing wrong in killing in the name of God; a "religion" that condemns before it even begins to examine evidence; a "religion" ad nauseum.

#157 rightasrain

I can confirm that the Koran WAS flushed down a toilet at Gitmo. The toilet was a 1972 IBM Executive fitted with Times New Roman font and there are photos in Mary Mapes' new book to prove it.

What kind of moron is Isakoff? someone tells him that a guard flushed a book down a toilet and it never occurs to Isakoff to ask "what they h*ll kind of toilets do they have at Gitmo?"

193 Bordm

I think that it's at a tipping point right now. States are begining to take matters into their own hands (witness the CA proposal for a state border patrol/interior enforcement) and the multiple initiatives in Arizona.

The Minuteman Project helped, as it proved that citizens can make a difference.

Fox and Debrez are flapping their jaws about their ultimate goal (union of US and Mexico). Not too many Americans want to merge with Mexico, so please, gentlemen, keep talking! I just LOVED the way Fox managed to insult the entire african american community...

We need to get active about the McCain/Kennedy Amnesty (now there's a match made in h&*ll), keep the Minuteman Movement going, and demand that the person/persons responsible for telling the BP in Arizona to stand down after the MMP are prosecuted for opening our borders in a time of war.

I hope that you will get to see the results of your twenty five years of labor soon. I have to admit, it's still too close for comfort.

193 Bordm

If the extremists start to escalate, they will ultimately discredit themselves and their movement. It's similar to the situation with Muslim extremism, the more bombs that go off in Iraq, or the more Imans that call for jihad over the Koran flushing rumor, the more these people will be seen for the nonrational, dangerous fanatics that they are.

#64
You could just pick up a copy of an old Newsweek magazine in any dentist office,ckeck out who advertises there and start contacting them.
How soon until some pranksters will come up with koran desecration home videos and put them on the web?!