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Wed, May 25, 2005 at 8:42:46 am PDT

The Seattle Post-Intelligencer’s Pulitzer Prize winning cartoonist David Horsey demonstrates once again the deep respect America’s media elites have for our armed forces.

(Do I need a sarcasm tag?)

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1 m  Wed, May 25, 2005 6:43:52am

Seattle.

Figures.

2 Capt. Queeg  Wed, May 25, 2005 6:44:36am

Disgusting.

3 wood-butcher  Wed, May 25, 2005 6:44:41am

Not only tasteless and insulting. But really, really weak.

4 Gagdad Bob  Wed, May 25, 2005 6:44:46am

Horsey's ass.

5 Black George Bush  Wed, May 25, 2005 6:45:26am

Thats exactally what they hope we're doing.

6 TalkinKamel  Wed, May 25, 2005 6:45:38am

But the MSM has no agenda, of course!

(Yeah, right!)

/Like Charles, I don't need no tags!

7 carl p  Wed, May 25, 2005 6:45:43am

How distgusting. I couldn't help but notice the "Jesusland, Redneck" accent on the soldier popping his head out of the "torture" chamber.

8 m  Wed, May 25, 2005 6:46:16am

#5 BGB

They are hoping alright. They know better, but spread this crap anyway.

9 Gagdad Bob  Wed, May 25, 2005 6:46:19am

Post-Intelligencer is an apt name, since they seem as intelligent as a post.

10 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds  Wed, May 25, 2005 6:46:52am

What's sad is I actually used to read some of this guy's comics and thought they were funny. Then the war started and he joined the rest of the Left in jumping the shark.

11 scaramouche  Wed, May 25, 2005 6:47:05am

Speaking of media, Red Ken Livingstone has a letter in the Jerusalem Post today. Apparently, there's far less Jew-hatred in London than their use to be, a devolopment for which Ken immodestly claims much of the credit.
[Link: www.jpost.com...]

12 David Simon  Wed, May 25, 2005 6:47:17am

Nice work, Horsey. Ted Rall must be pea green with envy.

13 Bad Mushrooms  Wed, May 25, 2005 6:48:38am

I'm sure he "supports our troops" while rejecting War. You can tell by the nuance.

14 Murqtaad  Wed, May 25, 2005 6:48:39am

Whatta fuckin dhimmi, i almost forgot that panties on a muslims head is worse than actually removing someones head...

15 Anonymous Al  Wed, May 25, 2005 6:48:45am

"The North saved the South in the 19th Century.

"The South will save the North in the 21st."


- Dennis Prager
16 xbalanke  Wed, May 25, 2005 6:48:55am

The more you learn about the Pulitzer prize the more obvious that it's always been a sham (e.g. Walter Duranty). Not to mention the number of them awarded to work that later proved to be fabricated or sexed-up. The prize is now a complete joke outside of the MSM echo chamber.

17 BabbaZee  Wed, May 25, 2005 6:49:40am

To the Craven Members of the MSM-iburton Conspiracy that claims America is dead (or should be) - wait till you see the American Ressurection. Y'ain't gonna like THAT at all...
Be Forewarned!
~ The Fellowship if the Ring-Ding

18 Tangonine  Wed, May 25, 2005 6:49:44am

Pulitzer prize?

He should be in line for a Nobel Peace Prize with cartoons like that!

/sarc

19 RBMN  Wed, May 25, 2005 6:51:05am

The media criticizes (slanders) the military for being too brutal. What they really hate the military for is being patriotic, but they don't dare to say (reveal) that.

20 Gagdad Bob  Wed, May 25, 2005 6:51:26am

I feel so naive. I had no idea there was a Pulitzer Prize for apeing the totalitarian, rabidly anti-American and Jew-hating Arab press, and come to find there is no other kind.

21 ShyGuy  Wed, May 25, 2005 6:51:34am

Horsey is an appropriate name, even if misspelled.

22 TalkinKamel  Wed, May 25, 2005 6:51:47am

#7 carl p

Yes, the "Jesusland" accents are precious, as are the faces of the wicked, Moslem-hating American soldiers. They look, to me at least, kinda like gorillas.

(Hmmm, makes me think of the Islamofacists calling Jews and Christians, "Apes and pigs." Gee, Mr. Horsey, you spreading a little taqqiya here?)

23 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, May 25, 2005 6:52:06am

Sorry for the OT, but did anyone elseread this story?...

The Bush administration is engaging in open talks with Islamist terror groups...

24 EW1(SG)  Wed, May 25, 2005 6:52:12am

#9 Gagdad Bob:

Post-Intelligencer is an apt name, since they seem as intelligent as a post.

Nuh-uh. Having had the opportunity to compare (fence-)posts in the Seattle area with posts in the P-I, I can testify that the (fence-)posts are demonstrably smarter and more intelligent.

25 Mitch_also  Wed, May 25, 2005 6:52:18am

Love living in WA, I work in Seattle, but sure wish this Liberal infestation could be taken care of.

Mitch

26 jehu  Wed, May 25, 2005 6:54:18am

They better have a lot of faith I never personally run into them with my 220 lbs and a lot of stored up anger for these f*ckwads!

27 Gagdad Bob  Wed, May 25, 2005 6:54:48am

I don't know about Pultizer Prize. Prize putz liar, maybe.

28 Carl B  Wed, May 25, 2005 6:55:09am

They totally fail to understand that the Iraqi people have been freed from a real monster. Saddam Hussein tortured, gassed, murdered, raped, pillaged and otherwise brutalized his countrymen for decades!

29 TalkinKamel  Wed, May 25, 2005 6:56:25am

#12 David Simon

Oh, I'm sure Teddy Rall is sobbing with grief that he didn't come up with this first!

#14 Murqtaad

Next, they'll be showing evil, ape-like American soldiers raping helpless Palestinian olive trees.

(Hey, Horsey! Howzabout some cartoons showing Israelis as pigs, devouring poor little Moslem children---and olive trees, of course!

I shouldn't joke---he's probably going to do something like that!)

(And if he doesn't, Teddy Rall probably will.)

30 mglazer  Wed, May 25, 2005 6:56:29am

Seattle is a cesspool

How many anti-american actions have occured out of there since 9.11?

quit ANTI-terrorism task force

deny army recruiters in high schools

anything else?

31 LizzyG  Wed, May 25, 2005 6:56:31am

Yeah. The People's Republic of Seattle. Don't forget that Seattle and it's suburbs set new standards for ways to steal an election. Honesty and truth are not things Seattle respects.
BTW: 53% of Washington's workforce is miliatry. We are not an employer friendly state here, either. So we're just shooting ourselves in the foot.
Common sense isn't important here either.

32 Capt. Queeg  Wed, May 25, 2005 6:56:49am

I also note we're now equating "koran desecration" with "tortured to death"...

33 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Wed, May 25, 2005 6:57:35am

Michelle Malkin, who is an uber-babe (but married, with children) had this yesterday on her blog.


LGF, MM and NRO are morning "must-reads" for me. Not counting various weather related internet sites.

34 jimg  Wed, May 25, 2005 6:57:44am

I'm with ya Mitch.
In time. Be patient. They'll start it, and then the fun begins.

35 rockman  Wed, May 25, 2005 6:57:46am

He's the north end of a south-bound horsey.
Shameless, ignorant, malevolent nonsense.

36 The Other Les  Wed, May 25, 2005 6:58:45am

Our media elites can blow me!

37 Bill the Cat  Wed, May 25, 2005 6:58:46am

Once again...not anti war; just on the other side.

38 Golem Akbar  Wed, May 25, 2005 6:58:47am

Knuckle-draggers! That's the US military (yes: sarc). At least that's the image the media wants to protray. Ted Rall always shows the pres. as vampire-like, and Horsey shows the military as troglodites.

It's so obvious (yeah, sarc) that the right anti-Islamofascists are right-wing knuckle-dragging bible-belting abortion-clinic-bombing Israel-loving-but-killing-ROP-member illiterates.

39 Capt. Queeg  Wed, May 25, 2005 6:58:50am

#33 Ed

I never knew you were interested in weather...
;)

40 Al Charabiya  Wed, May 25, 2005 6:59:03am

What an unrealistic cartoon. Where's the hooked-nose moneygrabber pulling the corporal's strings?

/DUmbat off

41 doubledip  Wed, May 25, 2005 6:59:14am

Meanwhile, in another part of Seattle media-land ---

China endorses Uzbekistan crackdown

TASHKENT, Uzbekistan — Making his first trip abroad since a bloody crackdown on protesters, Uzbek President Islam Karimov left yesterday on a visit to China, which has provided a rare note of support for the authoritarian Central Asian leader.

Karimov, who has rebuffed international calls for an independent inquiry into the May 13 bloodshed, apparently looked to his trip to underline that China is on his side. Yesterday, Beijing said it "firmly" backed his actions in crushing anti-government demonstrators.

China is eager to tap into Central Asia's energy resources, and it has watched warily since the United States deployed troops to the region, including at an Uzbek base, after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

Beijing also wants stability in the former Soviet states of Central Asia, a region that China — like Russia — considers a tinderbox of Islamic militancy that could spread to its own territory.

Am waiting to see what cartoon Horsey will crank out of this one.

42 foreign devil  Wed, May 25, 2005 6:59:42am

More MORONS! :(

43 Earl  Wed, May 25, 2005 6:59:59am

(Satisfyingly) OT

Burt Reynolds puts a slapdown on CBS lackey

Reynolds also commented on the slovenly state of the mouthpiece's dress- ah well, clothes make the man...

44 Poitiers-Lepanto  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:00:49am

Bastards.

And probably paid by our enemies.

45 TalkinKamel  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:01:20am

#17 BabbaZee

I WANNA JOIN THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING-DING!

(You feeling better today, I hope?)

#21 ShyGuy

You mean "Horsey" as in:

-Horsey's A*s?
-Horsey S**t?
-Horsey Face?
-Horsey Poodoo?

I think they're all appropriate!

46 manker  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:01:25am

OT:

PA police, gunmen battle in Jenin

Why did this start? Because of a stolen car

The incident started when militants refused to hand over the stolen car they were driving.

The PA has started to confiscate stolen vehicles, but has been reluctant to confiscate weapons, as Chairman Mahmoud Abbas promised during his election campaign.

Please explain, if they can collect cars why not weapons?

47 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:02:19am
48 twin_daddy  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:02:44am

Here's what that loser had to say after I e-mailed him about his lame cartoon:

" As reported by the New York Times last week, the United States Army’s own criminal investigation has revealed numerous instances of torture, some leading to deaths, committed by military interrogation units in Afghanistan. The report led the president of Afghanistan to demand that his government be given control over Afghani prisoners (a demand that was rejected by President Bush on Monday). Several other investigations carried out by the U.S. government and the Red Cross also have revealed instances of torture, death and affronts to Muslim cultural practices committed by interrogation units in Afghanistan, Iraq and, to a lesser degree, at Guantanamo Bay.
I am not making this stuff up. The mainstream press is not making this stuff up. It is real and is of great concern to our military. I should think it would be of concern to anyone who cares about the image of America in the world. It is unfathomable to me that folks who claim to believe in American values get upset about a poorly–sourced item in Newsweek or a cartoon that is almost a literal interpretation of the facts yet seem to be unconcerned about torture being perpetrated in their name.
I believe a true patriot is one who loves his country enough to call to account those who shame the flag by despicable actions that in no way reflect the guiding principles of this republic. This is not a liberal idea, a radical idea or a treasonous idea. It is, in fact, a rather traditional, all-American idea. Making excuses for torture is common practice in banana republics and authoritarian regimes, but it is alien and antithetical to our constitutional democracy.

David Horsey

So I countered his reply with this:


As reported by the New York Times last week, the United States Army’s own criminal investigation has revealed numerous instances of torture, some leading to deaths, committed by military interrogation units in Afghanistan.


It's not as if The New York Times blatantly lied to us all before and employed a staff of story fabricators, Dave.

[Link: www.frontpagemag.com...]

And how about this one from another "trusted" mainstream source, Dave?!

[Link: michellemalkin.com...]





The report led the president of Afghanistan to demand that his government be given control over Afghani prisoners (a demand that was rejected by President Bush on Monday). Several other investigations carried out by the U.S. government and the Red Cross also have revealed instances of torture, death and affronts to Muslim cultural practices committed by interrogation units in Afghanistan, Iraq and, to a lesser degree, at Guantanamo Bay.
Imagine the outcome of WWII if The United States Government acted with your compassionate sensibilities, Dave. You'd be drawing Imperialist and Nazi propaganda the way you draw your moonbat propaganda today, Dave.


I am not making this stuff up. The mainstream press is not making this stuff up. It is real and is of great concern to our military. I should think it would be of concern to anyone who cares about the image of America in the world. It is unfathomable to me that folks who claim to believe in American values get upset about a poorly–sourced item in Newsweek or a cartoon that is almost a literal interpretation of the facts yet seem to be unconcerned about torture being perpetrated in their name.
Oh, but of course, Dave. A good American is a compassionate American that employs those feelings toward the unfeeling, brain-washed enemy. Did you ask any of these people if they were granted the same respect?!

[Link: www.thememoryhole.org...]

[Link: www.mensnewsdaily.com...]

[Link: www.mensnewsdaily.com...]

49 BabbaZee  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:03:44am

#45 TalkinKamel
Little bit thanks.
You were always a ring-a-ding-ding-ding, toots!
~Frankie Sinatra

50 Rednek  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:05:10am

This is an example of Hitler's "big lie" in action. If you say America is torturing prisoners enough times, it becomes the "reality". Part of the "narrative". The "greater truth" which is "accurate" even if evidence is fake. It makes me sick how lies and slander are working to take down the most beneficent nation in the history of the world.

51 Model4  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:05:33am

Ah yes, the election's over so the Democrats no longer have to suffer through "taking one for the team" by not recoiling in horror at the sight of the flag, and not spitting on our troops whenever possible. Since that was no fun AND didn't help them win, might as well go with what they know. Although officially, they are still "patriots" (I think disagreeing with them may still qualify as "questioning their patriotism") who "support our troops."

#33 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades: I take it the part that really caught your eye was the "various weather related internet sites."

52 BabbaZee  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:05:58am

#48 twin_daddy
His sign reads "dead end"
Thanks for the effort, I admire it.
But he is beyond the back of beyond and past all returning.
Any words spent on convincing him are futile.

53 dvaprez  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:06:17am

Ho Chi Menh said "We can not win this war fighting the U.S. military, we can only win it on the streets of America."

The MSM has been willing to side with enemy for decades.

54 Murqtaad  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:06:35am

twin_daddy,

git 'em!

55 TalkinKamel  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:07:38am

#38 Golem Akbar

I suspect both Ted Rall and Horsey-Tushy are both wildly jealous of real men, with real courage who have a real purpose in their lives. Hence their hatred for the military.

#40 Al Charabiya

Oh, the cartoon of the hook-nosed moneygrabber is probably on its way, even as we speak!

56 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:08:37am
57 TalkinKamel  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:08:42am

#49 BabbaZee

:>)

58 Sarah D.  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:09:16am

OT

A pretty good story about Iraqi Police from the LA Times.

Beleaguered Iraqi Police Maintain Sense of Honor

59 farng!  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:09:30am

G-d bless our military. They stand between us and the Islamist horde.

Does HorseAss realize that the same soldiers he maligns are the ones who make sure he has the freedom to draw this crappola?

60 FriarsTale  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:09:45am

died in interrogation/ died blowing self up in crowded market
hmmm, which would I rather see...

61 AddictedLizardoid  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:11:30am

OT, and sorry if this has already been posted, but...

More Madrid bombings--ETA, supposedly, this time

62 Gagdad Bob  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:12:10am

It's very simple. The left combines ruthless contempt for traditional moral values and radical cynicism toward truth with an unbounded moral passion for utopian perfection. This explains everything they have believed and done since the French Revolution.

63 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:12:11am

So, I've asked repeatedly, but I'll ask again: Can we question their patriotism now?

64 Murqtaad  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:12:53am

60 friars tale,

but you see, we are denying them the religious freedom to detonate where they chose.

65 Owl  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:13:06am
"The North saved the South in the 19th Century.


Well, he got it half right. Ya'll need us, just holler. We Southern Jesus lovin' hicks, hillbillies and rednecks is ready when ya'll are.


Yeah, what is this Ring-Ding club and how much is it to join as a charter member? :)


Seattle? Even the football sucks in Seattle. Bad mojo from there. Need big fence for west coast after rescuing Charles and co. Jesusland has room for all. Well, except for those filthy muslims.

filthy. filthy. filthy.

66 Deuce  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:13:45am

Disgusting. The artist of a cartoon like that during WWII or Korea would have been spat on.

67 rickadams  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:14:34am

Well, now Daily Kos has linked to the Riding Sun blog entry on the Newsweek "flag in the can" story, so he's getting lots of comments like:

"[censored] Bush...there...to your face...it brings joy to my eyes when I read that US soldiers were killed."

"Good going, einstein. you actually figured out the entire world is sick of being raped up the ass by america. have a cookie. "

You know, these are... not nice people.

68 Right Wing Conspirator  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:15:12am

OT - but the MSM is reporting the Arab world is seething, seething I tell you, at the picture of Saddam in his undies-

Ooops, never mind the picture. They are seething I tell ya.

69 Bleeding heart conservative  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:15:38am

The Post-intelligencer is to intelligence as post-coital is to coitus.

70 Owl  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:15:59am

TAXFREE. BACK ON THE MEDS.

I know he did not just call Thomas Payne a nutcase!? Maybe I missed something...


Was Payne a nutcase? How? Oh no, I feel like someone is about to give me a revelation on something that'll make my day go straight to heck. . .


Say it ain't so.

Oh and btw - All Filthy Liberals are Traitors.

71 Peacekeeper  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:16:34am

Soldiers are dying to protect him, his latte town and inbred family. Fuck him.

72 FriarsTale  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:16:38am

#64
ah, yes, how inconsiderate of me

give them enough rope, and they'll hang us all

just as they may tear up and flush their own korans down a toilet, to gum up the works at Guantanamo, but their infidel captors may not touch their "holy" book with their bare hands, but must wear gloves

73 mkultra  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:16:49am

Wow! This guy is just an ass. Here is a blurb from one of his other "Funnies"


Empire Rising: A Satirical History, Part V

No, there not liberal, just "smarter than you"



Once again, Election Day was fast approaching in the Roman Republic. Who would the Senate choose as consul? Would they pick Senator Kerriolanus or would they re-elect Bushius the Younger (better known as Dubbia the Incoherent)?

Kerriolanus blamed Dubbia for the mess in Mesopotamia -- the costly war against the Saddamites -- and demanded that the consul acknowledge his huge blunders. But Dubbia did not believe in admitting mistakes. That would be a sign of weakness when there was an empire to defend. It would be a hint of fallibility when he knew he spoke for the gods and the gods spoke through him ...

74 Ben B  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:17:06am

It's not even funny.

75 Golem Akbar  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:17:20am

#63 Target etc

So, I've asked repeatedly, but I'll ask again: Can we question their patriotism now?

My question is, how we can get our MSM to begin running cartoons like Cox and Forkum? I don't mind the lefty editorials or political cartoons, but I'd sure like to read those from the other side, too. You know, like America really has more than one opinion on these subjects. (duh)

76 Murqtaad  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:18:36am

friar,

many kufr make that mistake, for only muslims have rights. its in the qu'ran, it cant be wrong.

77 Occasional Reader  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:19:51am

#68 RWC: I can't believe you've been taken in by this entry-level Rovian psyops maneuver. Clearly, those are plastic Arabs.

78 Peacekeeper  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:20:06am

Osama:
"You're a very funny guy Horsey, that's why we're going to kill you last."

79 Murqtaad  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:20:53am

#68 rwc,

isn't smiling haram? i had no idea it was permitted in islam.

80 brainsample  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:21:27am

Not quite as obnoxious, but close. See Pat Oliphant's latest rendering:

[Link: www.uclick.com...]

Oliphant in the last two years has veered off into Ted Rall territory. He used to be pretty good.

81 Orson Buggy  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:21:34am

Horsey is trying to surpass Ted Rall as a lowlife scumbag.

82 Mike  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:21:48am

#22

I think the "torturer" looks more like the Bat Boy of Weekly World News fame. Click on my username and read my blog entry about it.

Horsey is a disgusting moonbat SOB who would have been licking Hitler's boots had he lived 60 years ago. Asshole.

83 Right Wing Conspirator  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:21:58am

OT again - but oh, how I feel so much safer having the UN around to protect us:

U.N. says wary of fast reaction to Congo attack

KINSHASA (Reuters) - The United Nations said on Wednesday it was wary of reacting too hastily to reports militia fighters shot or hacked to death 18 people in eastern Congo as it did not want to endanger the lives of peacekeepers.

The interim governor of Congo's South Kivu province said on Tuesday 18 people were killed, many more injured and about 50 kidnapped and hauled off into the forest during an attack on a string of villages northwest of the town Bukavu.

"We can't put the lives of peacekeepers at risk on the basis of unreliable information. We need to find out who was involved and how we can react," said Thierry Provendier, military spokesman for the U.N. mission in Democratic Republic of Congo.


we also have to see if there are adolescent females involved that we can exploit.

F the UN

84 W-lover  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:22:55am

What a f*ckwad.

85 Sarah D.  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:24:31am

OT

MAS's Muslim Brotherhood Problem -
Does the Muslim American Society want an Islamic government in the United States?

The message that all countries should be ruled by Islamic law is echoed throughout MAS's membership curriculum. For example, MAS requires all its adjunct members to read Fathi Yakun's book To Be a Muslim. In that volume, Yakun spells out his expansive agenda: "Until the nations of the world have functionally Islamic governments, every individual who is careless or lazy in working for Islam is sinful."
86 Occasional Reader  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:25:06am

#83 RWC:

"We need to find out who was involved and how we can react,"

Don't be dissin' the UN! You can bet your bottom dollar that they'll be appointing a hard-hitting Fact-Finding Commission to produce a White Paper that will evaluate the need to establish a Permanent Standing Inquiry Group (to be based in Geneva) that will get to the bottom of this!

87 Havoc  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:25:44am

Charles -- "How come" you're not on the list of "Contributing Bloggers" of MediaSlander.com ?

The next Slander case of the military by the very liablous MSM has bubbled out of the fever swamp.

In response Winds of Change

and Blackfive

have posted up the Latest on "US Military Kills Journalists" ala "Fake but Accurate" by "erstwhile Journalist" Linda Foley and have banded together to form MediaSlander.com

READ it.

Impressive list of Bloggers --

The entire staff of MediaSlander.com

Bill Roggio
Blackfive
Brian Scott
Charles Goggin
Kevin Craver
LaShawn Barber
Mike Krempasky
Roger Morrow
USMC_Vet
Winds Of Change.NET

88 jamgarr  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:26:06am

#56 taxfreekiller

Whaaa ?

/channeling Prof. Farnsworth

89 arf  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:26:35am

Horsey's cartoons have the sophistication of a high-school newspaper.

Never could stand him, long before 9-11.

90 Joel  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:27:20am

Any city which has a Baghdad Jim McDermott as a representative in the House is a POS to me.

91 EW1(SG)  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:27:22am

#48 twin_daddy: Well done.

#68 RWC: ROFL!

#77 OR: Heh.

92 gymnast  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:27:26am

What else would you expect from a cartoonist who's dating Congressman Jim McDermott?

93 keepandbear  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:28:10am

Here peeps wash your eyes out with this

anti-idoitarian eyewash

94 Murqtaad  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:28:14am

92 gymnast

say what?

95 Right Wing Conspirator  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:28:14am

#77 Occasional Reader

I know, I know. But it's lunchtime and I haven't eaten yet. Making me woozy.

#79 murqtad

isn't smiling haram? i had no idea it was permitted in islam.


ummm, it seems you are correct:

In certain circumstances, the Ulama have allowed the taking of a photograph, for example, to acquire a passport. The act of photography is a despised act, lthough in such circumstances it is allowed because of need. Smiling is an expression of pleasure. Why should we show displeasure over an act which, in its original cotext, is a despised act. We should show our displeasure.

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

96 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:28:36am
97 keepandbear  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:29:44am

86 Occasional Reader

You forgot to add and then write a strongly worded letter.

98 Murqtaad  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:30:14am

96 AI

third party. (yeah right)

99 Semper Gumbi  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:30:19am

#48 Twin Daddy

What an ass that guy is. Funny how he conviently forgets that the US Military has prosecuted and sent to jail those who have abused and killed the prisoners. Funny how he conviently forgets that the story from the NY Times is built on the Military's own investigations, publically released, of these crimes.

His bullshit cartoon wants us to believe the US Miitary condones the bad actions of a few. Not only is he an Ass, he is shallow.

100 paxnhymn  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:30:20am

Sarah D

No it's not OT. is-slum is the enemy
MSM is the enemy

therefore

is-slum + MSM= America' s Enemy

101 TalkinKamel  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:30:40am

#48 twin_daddy

Good letter. I love it in his reply where he equates death and torture with "Affronts to Moslem culture". (He really is doing taqqiya, isn't he?)

I also love his rolling out the old, "A REAL PATRIOT IS ONE WHO CONFRONTS AMERICA'S EVIL!" schtick. Never mind 9/11---we've got to be concerned about our IMAGE! We've got to be better than everybody! (Funny, isn't that what anti-semites demand of Jews? "Be ye perfect"---or else!)

102 cptham  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:30:47am

Never forget! They support the troops!

103 W-lover  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:31:43am
Who do you think conservatives will vote for?!?!?!?

AI- if it's between Clinton & McCain... I'll vote for Condi Rice.

104 our gal sal  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:31:57am

The one sticking his head out the door looks like Batboy, or a bulked-up Nosferatu, take your pick.
Amerikkkans = vampires
I can deconstruct witht the best of 'em

105 TotallySirius  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:32:02am

We need a return to frontier justice.

String-up the traitorous scoundrel from a lamppost.

#96 AI

Voinovich is doing the exact same thing...looking for the veep nomination?

106 jamgarr  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:32:10am

Glen McCoy is a cartoonist who gets it right pretty frequently.

[Link: www.ucomics.com...]

107 Rage - Goddess,  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:32:44am

#73 mkultra

They call that a "satire"? It's nothing more than a pathetic recasting of the LLL fever-dream view of the world plopped into "ancient Rome" by putting the word 'anus' at the end of Kerry's name. (Actually, maybe *that*, unintentionally, was the stroke of genius.) He may be a Pulitzer Prize winner, but I shit more eloquently than Horsey writes.

108 Carl B  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:32:54am

80 brainsample

Not quite as obnoxious, but close. See Pat Oliphant's latest rendering:

At least Oliphant is showing a potential recruit as the ghoul, not a member of the military.

109 Doss  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:32:54am

OT:

Berger is scheduled to be sentenced July 8 and is expected to be fined $10,000 and suffer a temporary loss of his security clearance.

Remember Sandy Berger? I can't believe he's going to have the opportunity to regain his clearance. Absolute f'in insanity.
If an LLL ever tries to deny media bias, ask him about the Berger story and how much play it would have gotten had Condi stolen and destroyed top-secret docs.

110 doubledip  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:33:12am

#58 Sarah D

Good link. LAT must've read my earlier call for such a story. :-)

The Iraqi police have the hardest job in the world, bar none. They are brave beyond belief. My prayers go to them. They are Iraq's main hope for survival.

111 EW1(SG)  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:33:33am

#83 RWC:

as it did not want to endanger the lives of peacekeepers.

Certainly wouldn't want to lose some peacekeepers (read: low grade "mercenaries") so that some civilians might enjoy a little peace.

(And yes, I realize that's an unfair overgenerilzation re UN peacekeepers, so bite me.)

112 Doss  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:33:45am

D'oh. This is the proper link.

113 TotallySirius  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:33:47am

I'd vote the libertarian candidate before I'd vote for either Clinton or McPain.

114 Al Charabiya  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:34:29am

#56 TalkinKamel

Highly likely :)


#48 twin_daddy

Nice work. If, after his pretty lame response to your email, anyone was in any doubt about Horsey's ideals of sticking to the truth, here's his take on Rathergate. The way he presents it, you wouldn't have realised that it took a monumental pajamahadeen effort to get that idiot to resign...

Oh and I think I spotted a quagmire cartoon in his back-catalogue. What a POS.

115 gymnast  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:35:00am

#94, Murqtaad. Prove it ain't so. Is it fake but accurate or accurate but fake? Or is Horsey not in bed with McDermott? Or do you have a thing for Horsey and McDermotts in the way? Questions like yours are how rumors get started you know.

116 TalkinKamel  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:35:49am

(Continuing my Post #55 to Golem Akbar:)

. . .Yes, the hook-nosed moneygrubber cartoon is coming out sometime next week, along the latest effort from Teddy Rall, depicting Jewish soldiers as pigs, assaulting juvenile olive trees.

Meanwhile, Ridley-Scott is hard at work on his next film, "The Revenge of the Zionazi/Crusaders," wherein Saladin, in a red and blue superhero outfit, with a big S on his chest, does battle with hordes of hook-nosed space invaders, who want to conquer Earth and steal all its money. Arianna Huffington is running some "humorous" columns in her blog about how Jews really do eat christian children, and Mo-do Dowdy does her latest column, "CHIMPY BUSHITLER IS, LIKE, UTTERLY GROSS!"

The MSM! Ya gotta love it!

(Don't question its patriotism, though!)

117 Murqtaad  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:36:27am

115 gymnast

oh, you is bad, hehe.

118 TotallySirius  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:36:36am

#114 Al

Dead link,says the requested article has been moved or deleted.

119 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:37:12am

If 2008 is between the Hildabeast and the John "The DNC Whipping Boy" McCain, I'll vote libertarian. Or defect to Japan.

120 Havoc  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:38:09am

#87 Addedndum Linda K. Foley -- Elected President of The Newspaper Guild/CWA, AFL-CIO, CLC, in 1995 and was sworn in as a Vice President of the Communications Workers of America, AFL-CIO, CLC, in 1997. She was the first woman in the 60-plus year history of the Guild to hold the office. She was re-elected in 1997, 1999 and again in 2002.

Summary: While speaking at the National Conference For Media Reform Ms. Foley made this statement:

"Journalists, by the way, are not just being targeted verbally or, ah, politically. They are also being targeted for real, um, in places like Iraq. What outrages me as a representative of journalists is that there's not more outrage about the number, and the brutality and the cavalier nature of the US military toward the killing of journalists in Iraq. I think it's just a scandal."

"They target and kill journalists from other other countries, particularly Arab countries like Al Jazeera, for example. They actually target them and blow up their studios with impunity."


May 19, 2005

Summary: Linda K Foley responds in an article written and published on Editor and Publisher

Foley told E&P Thursday that her words were taken out of context by critics and said her original intent was to discuss how journalists are often scapegoated for their coverage. "This was almost an aside," she said. "But it is true that hundreds of journalists are killed around the world, and many have been killed in Iraq."

When asked if she believed U.S. troops had targeted journalists in Iraq, she said, "I was careful of not saying troops, I said U.S. military. Could I have said it differently? There are 100 different ways of saying this, but I'm not sure they would have appeased the right."

May 24th

Summary: An article written by Thomas Lipscomb for the Chicago Sun-Times found some pertinent quotes.

Foley's friend is rather puzzled by her comments.

Richard J. Roth, an old friend of Foley's, is senior associate dean at Northwestern University's journalism school, where Foley is on the board of advisers. Roth said that her statement is "a real puzzler."

"It's beyond my ken that citizen soldiers, my brothers and others in uniform, would target journalists, men and women armed with little more than a pencil. Could it be true? Well, I suppose it could be, but it doesn't square with the rest of what I read."

Air Force General Thomas McInerney was, "frankly astonished."

"It may be legitimate to investigate whether there may or may not have been an incident in which U.S. troops have targeted journalists, but there is no question at this point that major media figures are targeting the men and women of the United States military in Iraq, repeatedly and with no evidence," he said.

121 TotallySirius  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:38:32am

#119 Targetpractice

See my #113

122 Right Wing Conspirator  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:39:02am

On the topic of great cartoonists, how can we forget about Latuff.
spit

123 American Infidel[deleted]  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:39:18am
124 rcris5  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:39:33am

Left a message for the dirtbag to call me.

125 EW1(SG)  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:39:53am

#99 Semper Gumbi:

wants us to believe the US Miitary condones the bad actions of a few.

Having gone hermatile more than once simply because some poor slob fouled my quarterdeck, I can assure you that Horsey-ass here has no idea how the average soldier/sailor feels about another service member impugning the honor of our services.

126 Abu Messerschmitt  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:40:03am
2008 Presidential contenders will be:

CLINTON v MCCAIN

Who do you think conservatives will vote for?!?!?!?

I'll vote for Hillary, if it comes to it. She would be far less dangerous than McCain because conservatives will be in a better position to oppose her. I think most conservatives will sit the election out, and Hillary will win by default. Why should conservatives vote when the choices are a liberal Republican versus a liberal Democrat?

The other theory is that McCain knows he will never be the Republican nominee, and so is dedicating the rest of his career to destroying conservatives as payback for his defeat in 2000.

127 Doggy  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:40:24am

anti-American idiot...

but what does one expcet from Berlin...er Seattle...

Heh

128 Major B  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:40:53am

I am deeply disturbed by those who fail to realize just how much they owe to the men and women in uniform. None the less, those of us in uniform continue to serve as we understand that the ideals of liberty that we defend are stronger than those paltry noises raised by blind fools.

Ad augusta per angusta

129 Occasional Reader  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:41:25am

#116 TK:

Meanwhile, Ridley-Scott is hard at work on his next film

I'm not ready to write off Ridley Scott quite yet. His film adaptation of Black Hawk Down was fairly pro-military, i.e. showed the Rangers and Delta operators as being idealistic and brave.

130 Right Wing Conspirator  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:41:30am

And look at this sh*t.

131 DIAMONDMASC  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:41:39am

Ask mr horsey, if he was living in the mslim dominated utopian paradise that all th L3's are looking for and he drew a cartoon like that critical of the government, what would their vaunted ROP do?, i know the answer, but do they?

132 Dave the.....  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:42:44am

The Minneapolis Star-Tribune (aka Red Star Tribune) occasionally runs similiar ones. They really went after our Vietnam Vets last fall.

133 gymnast  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:42:56am

#117, Murqtaad. All in the spirit of good fun at the expense of the fourth column-fifth estate and the Triple Ls they incestuously breed with.

134 MARS Trucker  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:43:14am

In the world according to David Horsey and his LLL brethren,

1. The U.S. is the enemy of world peace.
2. Israel is the enemy of peace in the ME
3. The U.S. military are murderous, evil plotters who delight in torture and death (unlike the jihadist who are simply victims of U.S. capitolism; and that they are the peace loving "freedom fighters", who in their beliefs from Koranic lexicons of truth, are merely justifiedly surviving the "Evil Monsters of the West")


Charles in light of your post #120 (US Shari'a Watch)

“I don't want to start leaning on the delete button.”


This thread is going to get lizaroids fired up just as before, although I will behave, but I am still fired up.

135 Jade  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:43:58am

My good old... um... "friend" Yamin Zakaria forwarded the following moonbat's e-mail to me in regards to this hogwash: [Link: www.nytimes.com...]

chuck wilson ( miuws-11@adelphia.net ) wrote:
YAMIN: READ THIS YESTERDAY AND SENT IT TO EVERONE I KNEW! I CANT BEGIN TO TELL YOU HOW THIS AFFECTS US! PLEASE BELIVE ME WHEN I SAY MYSELF AND OTHERS ARE SICK AT THIS BEHAVIOR! WE ARE WORKING TO STOP IT. BUT THE POWERS TO BE ARE GREAT. I OFFER MY HUMBLE APOLIGIES! I CANOT BE LIEVE WHAT THIS COUNTRY IS DOING.PLEASE YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO HATE AMERICA! I DO MYSELF, BUT PLEASE STAY MY FRIEND! OUR GOVERMENT IS SUPPOSE TO BE OF THE PEOPLE. FOR THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE. BUT ITS BEEN TAKEN OVER BY THE EVIL ONES AND AS MUCH AS THIS HURTS THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS ARE ACCEPTING THE ADMINASTRATION AS BEING SENT BY GOD. WHAT A BUNCH OF IDIOTS! IM SORRY YAMIN I REALY SORRY! CJW PEACE!

Be my guest to spam the bastard senseless.

136 Al Charabiya  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:44:01am

#118 TotallySirius

Weird! It worked in preview, but definitely doesn't work now. Seems like something stuck an extra "&" into the URL on posting. Sorry about that, could be the sh1tty system I'm working on here.

Try this instead

If that doesn't work, browse their cartoons by person, find the GWBush one from 9/23/2004 entitled "Bogus information: two reponses".

137 Bilgeman  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:45:08am

Y'all think this cartoon was bad.

There are now allegations floating about that American troops have raped Iraqi women, with photos.

Regards;

138 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:45:53am

GRRR!

139 our gal sal  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:47:07am

#82 Mike
Nice site!
re: Batboy. Great minds, etc...

140 Dave the.....  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:47:41am
I'll vote for Hillary, if it comes to it. She would be far less dangerous than McCain because conservatives will be in a better position to oppose her.


Good point. She would give conservatives a rallying cry.

Also I think she would govern really bad and really good at the same time.

Like Willie, she'll roll over for a conservative cause if she thinks it's popular at the time.

Like a good liberal though, she'll do really nasty things also, which would give the opposition good material.

141 Studebaker Hawk  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:48:21am

#28 Carl B,

"They totally fail to understand that the Iraqi people have been freed from a real monster. Saddam Hussein tortured, gassed, murdered, raped, pillaged and otherwise brutalized his countrymen for decades!"

The Left isn't interested in black on black or brown on brown violence; it doesn't fit the narrative.

#61 AddictedLizardoid,

They'll be withdrawing their military from the Basque homeland in 5..4..3..2..

#79 Murqtaad ,

"isn't smiling haram? i had no idea it was permitted in islam."

It's allowed only in the final seconds before detonation.

142 daver  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:49:10am

The left is more than happy to be up in front of the cameras on Veterans Day, Memorial Day, etc., with the American flag waving in the background, proclaiming their "support" for American troops.

The rest of the year, however, their actions betray their true feelings of distrust, contempt, and desire for failure for our men and women in the armed forces.

They are hypocrites, wrapping themselves in a pious and false patriotism.

143 TMF  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:49:35am

Is it just me or are all of these "cartoonists" the same guy operating under diff't aliases?

The one-shade-above-stick-figure drawing is the same. The infantile, ignorant, humourless LLL hate-think is the same.

Its all the same guy, right?

Or just the same "mind"

144 Bilgeman  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:50:26am

Here's the earliest I've so far found the source for the Boston Globe's apparent coverage of alleged US rapes of Iraqi women.

And there are questions that the photos offered as "proof" are in fact from porn sites:

May 12th entry

Regards;

145 William  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:50:38am

And Horsey has not committed treason here?

Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

[Link: www.law.cornell.edu...]

146 J. Lichty  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:52:46am

It's not that the left and their propoganda wing -- the mainstream media -- don't love America. They do. They just love France and every Arab and thrid world shit-hole a whole lot more, and if America would only give them what they want they could be loved as much.

147 loppyd  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:53:22am

Kind of OT, but not really since the topic is media. Get out the violens:

NY Times/Boston Globe announce layoffs

148 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:53:29am

I'd vote McCain- yes, he is very liberal compared to real Republicans, although not as bad as the Northeast RINOs (Snowe, Specter, Chaffee) and unlike some people who spent the 1960s writing academic papers comparing heterosexual marriage to chattel slavery, McCain was in a POW camp in Hanoi.

Jean Francois Qerie wanted McCain as his VP on the ticket in 2004, and probably would have won if he had gotten him. McCain isn't a good choice, but compared to the Stalinist Senator from Illinois er, Arkansas I mean, New York, he is the second coming of George Washington.

149 EW1(SG)  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:53:31am

#128 Major B:

I am deeply disturbed by those who fail to realize just how much they owe to the men and women in uniform. None the less, those of us in uniform continue to serve as we understand that the ideals of liberty that we defend are stronger than those paltry noises raised by blind fools.

Amen, even though I have to think about what I am going to wear daily anymore.

#129 OR: Concur. I think that Scott is apolitical, and has nary a clue about some of the moonbattery he has shown on screen.

150 Freedom Fan  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:53:54am

david horsey is but another sick example of the liberal termites relentlessly gnawing at the foundation of freedom and democracy from berzerkely to boston.

We bewildered, patriotic Conservatives are on the outside peering in; desperately trying to understand the minds of these squirming, fetid maggots who would cheerfully destroy their proud heritage and Western civilization itself.

But to truly comprehend the decadent leftist world view, it helps to have been once been one, as was the brilliant Benjamin Kerstein. He describes his journey from the Dark Side in a wonderful essay entitled My Road To Damascus.

...
So I began too to see deeper flaws in those sureties I had so long accepted. I began to sense, or perhaps at last to admit to, inherent contradictions at work in the machine in which I had once placed so much faith. The leftist catechism denounced the United States government as inherently corrupted and beyond repair, and the solution had been to hand massive swaths of the American society and economy over to the control and regulation of the state; in other words, the United States government. It extolled civil liberties but proposed a collectivist creed which fundamentally negated the individual. It claimed to oppose concentrated, monopoly power but proposed to concentrate it to a degree unprecedented in American history. There seemed no connection whatever between these ambitions, and I began to suspect that the entire formulation was ultimately nothing more than an expression of the will to power; that the first had been concocted merely to enable the second.

...
It is not mere armchair psychology to see radical politics, in fact all politics which sees the world as inherently flawed and in need of overturning, as, in truth, the cry of unhappy and angry people; people for whom politics has become a desperate attempt to satiate a pain which is, in fact, deeply personal and fundamentally non-political; an attempt at indirect expresson of an alienation which was, in fact, not from society but from the people closest to them, and perhaps even from themselves.
...

151 Yanke Diver  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:56:58am

All this controversey about the prisoners is a no brainer. Just change the rules of engagement.

TAKE NO PRISONERS!

152 Occasional Reader  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:59:32am

#149 EW1(SG): Plus I still have to give Scott credit for making one of the greatest sci-fi movies of all time.

153 Havoc  Wed, May 25, 2005 8:03:13am

Foley claims -- U.S. military deliberately targeting journalists in IRAQ

MediaSlander.com

154 EW1(SG)  Wed, May 25, 2005 8:03:18am

#152 OR:

have to give Scott credit for making one of the greatest sci-fi movies of all time.

Indeed. A strange example of idiot savant.

155 Carl B  Wed, May 25, 2005 8:04:49am

Here's the portfolio that Horsey won his 2003 Pulitzer with. Quite some doozies there! Be sure to check 9/8/02 (2nd on top row).

156 aRedPhishHead  Wed, May 25, 2005 8:08:17am

sickening "cartoon."

157 endotoxin  Wed, May 25, 2005 8:08:52am

David Horsey, Steve Benson, and Ted Rall - separated at birth?

158 Powderfinger  Wed, May 25, 2005 8:12:22am

#48 twin_daddy

Good shootin!

I believe a true patriot is one who loves his country enough to call to account those who shame the flag by despicable actions that in no way reflect the guiding principles of this republic. This is not a liberal idea, a radical idea or a treasonous idea. It is, in fact, a rather traditional, all-American idea. Making excuses for torture is common practice in banana republics and authoritarian regimes, but it is alien and antithetical to our constitutional democracy.

I've got some bad news for Horseysass. I'm just fine with the idea that our boys and girls smack jihadis around. I hope they insult them. I home they humiliate them. I hope they degrade them. None of that is unAmerican. None of it is unpatriotic. In fact, it wasn't that long ago that exactly that we treated some of the most patriotic of Americans that way...in BOOT CAMP!

This is a war, retard. If we break people on the other side, it's a plus, not something to be ashamed of.

This republic was founded on the idea that there are things worth fighting for. This is just part of that fight. So shaddap, pull your pants up and get a real job. Meanwhile, let our professionals do what they do best. They may not be able to draw, but God help us if we had to depend on the likes of your to protect our interests. You should cover topics that you actually understand, like Fwance.

Pussy.

159 Dirk Diggler  Wed, May 25, 2005 8:16:04am

Oh BTW, guess what news program is scheduling another "tribute" for the fallen in Iraq...

Nightline to broadcast a roll call of U.S. war dead

The Memorial Day special, titled "The Fallen," will air on May 30, and "Nightline" will be extended from its usual 30 minute broadcast to about 45 minutes to allow time for all the names to be read, ABC said.

Many of the photos are being provided by the Military Times Media Group, which publishes a newspaper for each branch of the U.S. armed services.

"'The Fallen' is about the men and women who have died in our names in Iraq and Afghanistan," Koppel said in a statement. "We owe it to these men and women who have died in the cause of freedom that we remember them with honor."

Yeah, right. You want to "honor" them. Despicable.

160 American Soldier  Wed, May 25, 2005 8:23:18am

I ordered a reprint for the parrot's cage.


The pulitzer prize- is that anything like an oscar or some other circle-jerk prize?

161 Spiny Norman  Wed, May 25, 2005 8:30:31am

#158 Powderfinger

The philosophy of the anti-war Left:

Accusation, no matter how wild and improbable = absolute proof.

162 Hooray for Captain Spaulding  Wed, May 25, 2005 8:32:58am
#43 Earl 5/25/2005 08:59AM PDT

ROFLMAO !

It was obvious to me that Reynolds was kidding. The CBS weenie, of course, went home and cried to Mommy.

How do these people reproduce without testicles is beyond me.

163 Havoc  Wed, May 25, 2005 8:33:21am

He's an equal opportunity Insulter

Pulitzer Prize stuff here, uh huh.

164 USMC RECON  Wed, May 25, 2005 8:33:41am

Scum like this coward are to be ignored. Try as they might to stir up an anti-military voice in this country,they will fail .They failed in the '60-'70 . The military is still the strong arm of this nation.
However, If your ever lucky enough to meet this asshole. have fun.

165 Hankmeister  Wed, May 25, 2005 8:35:02am

Horsey? More like horse's @$$. I bet he gets a kickback from Al Jazeera every other week.

166 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, May 25, 2005 8:35:35am
167 TMF  Wed, May 25, 2005 8:35:57am

Yes.

When I want incisive, informed, intelligent discourse on international affairs I go straight to Horsey.

And when I need advice on personal and spiritual matters, I consult the Family Circus.

Sometimes, I will seek philosophical enlightenment from the Wizard of Id.

Going to a cartoonist for insightful political commentary is like going to Priest for sex tips.

168 Hankmeister  Wed, May 25, 2005 8:39:18am

Apply the same vitriol and hatred Horse's @$$ has for the military to that of radical Muslims who have demonstrated far more murderous intentions and actions against truly innocent people. It wouldn't be long before he would have his Horsey head end up in someone's bed a la "Animal House." I wonder what he would then think of Gitmo "torture" of bona fide terrorist scum? Nothing to lose your head over, right Horsey? Dirtbag.

169 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb)  Wed, May 25, 2005 8:41:05am

#150

The Kerstein article is interesting. But I was dismayed to see that he STILL makes no defense of our great and good country's history, so viciously slandered and distorted by the Leftists.

He needs to talk with David Horowitz, who's waked up all the way.

But his portrait of Boston schooling is hair-raising. No wonder they keep re-electing Kerroid and Kennedy. Sounds like the Komintern.

170 EW1(SG)  Wed, May 25, 2005 8:47:34am

#166 Rayra:

Incessant screeching about the Nuclear Sub base across the bay.

My nieces' daddy was a missile tech working there while they was growin' up. Used to come home from school with tales of major smackdowns on watermelon teachers who know shit from shinola about the dreaded nucular radiation! Damn near ruptured a gut on numerous occasions. Worse, they both learned at an early age the value of rhetoric-at nine years old one commented on Ross Perot's campaign speechifying that he talked a lot, but didn't say anything. Like shooting salmon in a bathtub.

171 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb)  Wed, May 25, 2005 8:56:45am

#150 from your link

"It is unfair to say that I was at one point a radical leftist; it is more accurate to say I was born into it. My family and the Boston suburb in which I grew up were ferociously liberal, and the public schools I attended subscribed to the rubric of what might be termed the politically correct, and did so, moreover, in a manner which rendered it more catechism than ideology.

"Liberalism in its post-Vietnam form, a kind of quasi-pacifist libertarian socialism shot through with a ferocious strain of racialism, was in every way our state religion. Quite naturally, I adhered strenuously to the most radical tenets of this religion; it is difficult for me to see how I could have done otherwise. Though it pains me, I feel that I must be honest here about how I felt regarding my country, and indeed, the very idea of a free society at the time; for the memory of my youthful fanaticism informs my own concerns about the implications of leftist thought and ideology on an elemental level. I think it is not an exaggeration to say that it may be the single most important factor at work.

"My ideas at the time, like those of all young people, were vague and unformed, but were raw in their emotion and clear in their essential worldview. In thinking of it, I recall Albert Camus's remark that no one has ever become a communist because of reading Marx, "first they convert," he said, "then they read the scriptures." In keeping with this truism, mine was less a systemic pattern of thought than a series of accepted axioms: I believed, first and foremost, that the United States was an irreparably corrupt and wicked society, founded on racism, consolidated through genocide, perpetuated through oppression at home and tyrannical imperialism abroad, and fueled by a psychotic machine capitalism which was, through its environmental destruction and cultural hegemony, destroying the world itself.

"In describing these tenets, I have neither exagerrated nor engaged in unduly hyperbolic rhetoric. Nor should they be taken as shallow or amorphous resentments. I believed in them quite literally, and not only that, I took them as a catalytic force, as indisputable proof that major, perhaps revolutionary changes would be necessary to redeem the United States from the depths to which it had fallen, if indeed the redemption of a nation so historically cursed and so perversely manifested in the present could, in fact, be redeemed. I believed myself enjoined to do something, to engage in the struggle to bring about these great and inevitable changes. There is no question, however, that while these catechisms enobled my sense of myself, they also made me ferociously intolerant of the opinions and even the humanity of other people."

Leftism as a quasi-religion, grossly inimical to our country.

IOW, THIS is how Horsey and his ilk can draw such cartoons. They really BELIEVE we're all evil, our country is evil, and anyone who attacks or kills us is justified.

172 arf  Wed, May 25, 2005 8:57:56am

MAD Magazine...that's it.

Horsey reminded me of a certain style of cartoon, it just dawned on me.

Adolescent.

173 no2liberals  Wed, May 25, 2005 8:57:58am

Such a skilled illustrator. Such a master of geo-political strategy. Must be positioning himself for a run at the '08 Pulitzer Prize.

174 andthenblammo!  Wed, May 25, 2005 8:58:59am

Here's Horsey's bio:

Horsey received a BA in Communications from the University of Washington where he was editor of the student newspaper, The Daily. As a Rotary Foundation Scholar, Horsey earned an MA in International Relations from the University of Kent at Canterbury (U.K.). He has been named as one of the 100 most notable alumni of the University of Washington in the 20th Century and is a member of the advisory board for the UW College of Arts and Sciences.

So, you trogdolytes realize you are daring to critise one of your betters. :)

175 hippieforlife  Wed, May 25, 2005 9:01:30am

Does it surprise any of you that the Seattle PI is suffering a decline in sales?
The coverage they have given to the scandal that is our Governor's election is beyond a fantasy.
Because the final "winner" was a Democrat, they continue to report business as usual.
Mr. Horsesass must think that reaction to the Newsweek article was not good enough.
Now he is providing the enemy with a "visual aid". Just in case they can't read.
This "cartoon" is not even clever. Easy for him to bash America while he lives in an area protected by all five branches of our military.
A letter to the PI will be forthcoming, for whatever good thay may do.

176 NY Nana  Wed, May 25, 2005 9:03:13am

#163 Havoc

Did you notice that any LLL who can actually read can buy a copy of his work of art? (barfing, retching noises heard in background)I wonder if Rall offers the same priviledge? Picture their stuff, framed in the most tasteful frames that Wal-Mart can offer, hanging side by side...on second thought, don't even try to;wipe mental image clean ASAP! Wait a second! An Oliphant one would be just the perfect one for a tri perfecta!

177 rightymouse  Wed, May 25, 2005 9:07:40am

Believe it or not, one of my favorite conservative cartoonists is at CNN - Bob Lang. Check him out - he's great!

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

178 hippieforlife  Wed, May 25, 2005 9:09:45am

Well, Mr. Horsesass is still on a role.
Soundpolitics.com has his latest "cartoon" published today.
Nice to know he is an equal opportunity ass!

179 Iron Fist[deleted]  Wed, May 25, 2005 9:12:20am
180 wordwolf  Wed, May 25, 2005 9:21:04am

#131

If any of our lefty cartoonists were living in the utopian Islamic caliphate, they wouldn't be drawing anything, let alone political cartoons. Salafi/Wahhabi (or as they call it, "pure") Islam absolutely prohibits the depiction of living things as blasphemous (because imitative of Allah's creative ability without bestowing life) and idolatrous. But hey, in this country not every "artist" can get an NEA grant; therefore we're just as repressive as they are...

181 rightymouse  Wed, May 25, 2005 9:23:51am

#171 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb)

"...There is no question, however, that while these catechisms enobled my sense of myself, they also made me ferociously intolerant of the opinions and even the humanity of other people..."

Ladies and gentlemen, behold the voice of narcissism that defines the left.

182 EW1(SG)  Wed, May 25, 2005 9:29:59am

#175 hippieforlife:

an area protected by all five branches of our military.

In passing, I would note that Seattle enjoys the presence and economic benefit of all seven uniformed services, not just the five armed forces.

183 Mardukhai  Wed, May 25, 2005 10:03:10am

His name is Horsey?

Maybe, but he's still an ass.

184 Mardukhai  Wed, May 25, 2005 10:08:19am

A friend of mine won the Pulitzer for investigative reporting.

I think hers, as are many, was well deserved. (I got the same scoop, but for a much smaller paper. AUGH!)

The problem is the Columbia School of Journalism, whose journal still won't admit that the Rathergate documents are FAKES.

They are simply too liberal to get the job done.

185 cptham  Wed, May 25, 2005 10:16:33am

Blackfive.net has launched a new website called mediaslander.com and has sounded the clarion call to milbloggers and all other good americans to put a spotlight on the media abuse and derision of our military. I dropped a link to Horsey's ass's "cartoon" there. Mr. Ed has no idea of the shit storm coming his way.

186 Bubble Girl  Wed, May 25, 2005 10:19:57am
He has been named as one of the 100 most notable alumni of the University of Washington in the 20th Century and is a member of the advisory board for the UW College of Arts and Sciences.

If this fellow is one of the 100 most notable alumni from the Univ of Washington... sad... so sad... when Universities rot from within... and the product they produce is this guy...

Ironically this person does not have one ounce of feeling for any Iraqis, he merely uses them for his one man Talent Show... he reminds me of the French Fops who wore powdered wigs and fake moles, before they were led off to the guillotines by the starving peasants..

187 ewok10  Wed, May 25, 2005 10:21:47am

#148 Ed Mahmoud

I strongly disagree!

Senator McCain is everything we HATE in politcians...self-serving, unprincipled, duplicitous. Yes, these describe Hillary as well, but more people see the truth about her than see the truth about McCain. There is danger in the devil we don't know.

I thank John McCain for his service in Vietnam. It was noble and heroic (would that he display those traits today) but his past sacrifice doesn't buy him the White House in 08.

188 hippieforlife  Wed, May 25, 2005 10:26:03am

#182
I stand corrected. He really is free to spout BS because he is protected. I'll probably see him outside the gate protesting the military as I go to work.

189 RepJ  Wed, May 25, 2005 10:38:54am

The torture rooms do not exist in American camps. He is obviously confused. That was Saddam's torture and rape rooms.

190 luckystrike  Wed, May 25, 2005 11:11:25am

I would personally strip all of these bastards of the american citizenship and deport them to an islamic state,within 24 hours,no due process.
They wouldn`t last more than a few hours over there,before being beheaded by their good islamic friends.

191 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Wed, May 25, 2005 11:29:05am
192 FlyingTigress  Wed, May 25, 2005 11:56:53am

#166 Rayra

Although, those of us who are of a more conservative/pro-troops orientation have frequently outnumbered the 'bats during our regularly-scheduled Exit 122/Fort Lewis main gate "Support our Troops" rallies.

(I still love the one where the not-fit-for- fish-wrapper papers noted only that we outnumber the 'peace' activists -- and the local paper correctly noted that there were about 7000-8000 of us, spilling over onto the overpass near McChord AFB and side streets, and fewer than 100 of 'them').

193 Havoc  Wed, May 25, 2005 12:15:03pm

#148 Ed Mahmoud

I see you're doing that Texas thing again...

" A Choice between the evil of two lessers"

But I'd rather have a threeway race with Zell Miller for President. Yeah Yeah he's no Rhodes Scholar heavyweight but he's principled which gives better governance than McCain AFTER the election.

#185 cptham 5/25/2005 12:16PM PDT

Great work.

All others

mediaslander.com

194 Havoc  Wed, May 25, 2005 12:20:14pm

"During the course of administration, and in order to disturb it, the artillery of the press has been leveled against us, charged with whatsoever its licentiousness could devise or dare. These abuses of an institution so important to freedom and science are deeply to be regretted..."

Thomas Jefferson

Thank you Federalist Patriot.

195 letsgosurf  Wed, May 25, 2005 12:30:06pm

Charles, Have you seen Horsey's response to a letter from an angry reader over at Sound Politics?

Quote from Horsy's letter:

It is unfathomable to me that folks who claim to believe in American values get upset about a poorly–sourced item in Newsweek or a cartoon that is almost a literal interpretation of the facts yet seem to be unconcerned about torture being perpetrated in their name.

[Link: soundpolitics.com...]

196 Gordon  Wed, May 25, 2005 1:46:35pm

Any comment, Charles?

[Link: story.news.yahoo.com...]

197 [Engineer]  Wed, May 25, 2005 1:56:55pm

#196 Gordon

Any comment, Charles?

Why should he comment on something a terrorist said? They are trained to lie like this as you have been told before.

198 TalkinKamel  Wed, May 25, 2005 2:01:05pm

Repeating myself from another thread---the article merely states that a prisoner accuses his jailers of flushing a Koran; and his accusation appears in an FBI report, which indicates that America was looking into possible abuse cases there.

199 gymnast  Wed, May 25, 2005 2:01:29pm

I dont know about Charles, but I have a comment for you Gordon. You seem to know little about the engineering of plumbing fixtures and dont realize that it would be virtually impossible to flush a book down a toilet. On the other hand, shoving a Koran up your ass would be easy since you have stretched the opening with your head for years. If you had enough light you could read it and write a critique. Look for the parts where you get extra points for reading the Koran under what for others would be difficult circumstances. You may be one of Allahs special chosen children Gordon, if you take the time to find out be sure to let us know.

200 Ramrod02  Wed, May 25, 2005 2:27:42pm

I know and approve of free speech. It is a proud tradition and it WAS PAID FOR by the lives of thousands of Americans. It was NOT paid for by scumbags like Horsey. People like him and his ILK are merely riding along because no one will step up and condemn his views in the National Media. His kind bear no responsibility for what they say and the small part of the redidents of the US and free nations are allowed to stand unopposed by political parties seeking to regain power and continue to reap its benefits because no one will oppose them for fear of "offending" them. I now from reading this Blog and others that there many who DO oppose them but our GOP leaders do not wish to fight them on their own territory. Does the name Frist come to mind, among others?

201 Right Brain  Wed, May 25, 2005 2:53:42pm

I'm starting to understand the Left-overs: sensible people ignore them so they become more shrill to get our attention: then they are further ignored because they are shrill and irrational, so they become...more shrill and irrational to get our attention and then they are further ignored, etc. I have been puzzling over Howard Dean's ever more bizarre behavior and until I subject it to this formula, and it seems to work. Its almost as if they WANT to lose elections. What could the delightfully named cartoonist David Horsey have in mind with this demagoguery? That he would change anyone's mind? Better become more shrill and irrational.

202 Gordon  Wed, May 25, 2005 2:58:44pm

#198 TalkinKamel: The FBI guy seemed to think the story was pretty credible.

And I am quite happy our government was, and is, investigating this matter.

203 hazzyday  Wed, May 25, 2005 3:24:34pm

Well if you follow pulitzer Horsey he has a definite agenda. He does present both sides sometimes. But definitely slants one way to teach a lesson to one group. He tries to entertain liberals and educate conservatives. Based on his seattle colored glasses. I doubt he can see the arguement from the other side.

204 TalkinKamel  Wed, May 25, 2005 3:36:02pm

#155 CarlB

I checked it out.

Day-yum, Horsey is one twisted little pony!

205 solomonpanting  Wed, May 25, 2005 4:16:10pm

#15 Anonyomous Al

Actually, I believe the quote is along the lines of

The North saved the country in the 19th century.

The South will save the country in the 21st century.

206 Westward Ho  Wed, May 25, 2005 7:35:40pm

There is nothing factually wrong with the cartoon. Shoot the message not the messenger.

207 TalkinKamel  Thu, May 26, 2005 4:13:06am

#206 Westward Ho

Got links? Evidence? Names of witnesses, and/or actual victims, perpetrators?

Show us.

208 TMF  Thu, May 26, 2005 6:43:54am
Shoot the message not the messenger.

How about we shoot your ass back into hell and call it even?

209 Pete (Alois)  Thu, May 26, 2005 11:21:14am

Aiding and abetting the enemy, plain and simple.

"But dissent is patriotic!"

I'm so sick of it.


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