hey with such fine moral tunnel vision on the part of our 'good friends' the Sauds...

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

slightly OT but plenty scary enough naytheless...

GO BORDER PATROL!

our tolerant Islamic belief

LOL!

The official, who spoke to SPA on condition of anonymity, said the allegations “don’t go with the principals and values of the kingdom and above all our tolerant Islamic belief which guarantees the rights of Muslims and residents of different religions and ethnicities alike.” ...

What a bunch of bullshit. Backward-ass lying fucks.

Is this a joke, from The Onion?

/sorry, I forgot we're not supposed to joke about the death cult or certain people get upset

Listen, didn't you READ:

"such actions run counter to Islamic tolerance"

Jeesh!

Our religion of peace is a tolerant one...just trust us

Hey the Muslims are reknowned for their tolerance and paternal feelings for the poor infidels...

ask a wahabiist about it...

/sarc?

"The official, who spoke to SPA on condition of anonymity"

'cause he'd be honor-raped if he gave his name ...

/their arrogance truly knows no bounds ...

I'm starting this rumor now:

Saudi police holding Christians prisoner stepped on a Holy Bible, and in one case placed it near a toilet.

Please check bulletin boards at your local city hall for time and location of the nearest riot.

It's true, the Saudis are finely tuned into their soul-brother love of America.

And they also fight terror in all phases and forms!

Just ask them.

A Saudi official denied allegations that the kingdom has arrested and tortured Christians, saying such actions run counter to Islamic tolerance.

Yeah right...what bullshit.

Umm, isn't it officially illegal to practice Christianity in Saudi Arabia? I mean, the Saudis have let out some huge, reeking whoppers before, but this has to set a new record. I call shenanigans big time.

If W continues to remain silent about this, then the House of Saud must have compromising photos of him in college with a sheep or something.

They don't allow any non-Prophet organizations in Saudi Arabia.

Like I said in a previous post, the Saudis are so paranoid that they will not allow four-season carpets in the kingdom since the seasons are separated by a + sign.

They are also destroy the most Korans in the world. All Korans that are brought by pilgrims for the hajj that were not printed in Saudi Arabia are taken and destroyed.

13 Gagdad Bob

They don't allow any non-Prophet organizations in Saudi Arabia.

Got to be the best damn groaner of the day...:).

At least they didn't flush any Bibles down the toilet. That will have to wait until they develop indoor plumbing.

"our tolerant Islamic belief"

ROFL. Could anyone keep a straight face when he delivered this whopper?

Someone needs to ask him why every border that Islam has is a bloody one.

This statement stinks more than a urine soaked Koran.

#14 alibey

So do their math textbooks require that addition be expressed in terms of subtracting negative quantities, to avoid those evil infidel + signs?

#14 alibey

... and is Arabic software required to be written in C--?

/geek-joke

I think he meant "totalerantarian Islamic belief."

If it quacks then its a duck !

Saudis think things are different in the Magic Kingdom. Starting with the laws of gravity.

#20 religion of bacon

...and none of their hit counters can increment, either:

$count--;

I like his logic. It is impossible for us to do X, Y, or Z, because our religion forbids it. Therefore, it never happened. Hmmm, maybe we could learn something from these people!

Bibles are contraband in Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia must allow less religious freedomm than any nation in the world. They're trying to; that's a certainty. I hope the reformers outnumber the royal family. Given the punishments, it's safe to assume there are some undercover reformers.

Recall the Religious Policeman, dodging the religious policemen in Saudi Arabia? I worry about him sometimes.

#19
I haven't seen any math books here in kingdom, though they are good at subtraction. "If there is one jihadist who detonates a bomb in a pizza parlor, how many infidels are left?"

#20
C++ is harem here, twice the infidel power with 2 plus signs. Since they are big coffee drinkers they can only use Java.

/more geek humor

They don't allow any non-Prophet organizations in Saudi Arabia.

instant classic

The official, who spoke to SPA on condition of anonymity, said the allegations “don’t go with the principals and values of the kingdom and above all our tolerant Islamic belief which guarantees the rights of Muslims and residents of different religions and ethnicities alike.”

Greater truths have come out of the back end of a camel!

Sort of OT

I was reading a thread on the Straight Dope message boards about the Koran flushing. One of the posters, who is from Jeddah, mentioned that some of his Saudi co-workers wouldn’t take their wallets to the bathroom since there is koranic verses on the currency here.

FYI

New troll here. Gone now apparently, but...

#27 alibey

Muslims are also naturally Object-Oriented since they freak out over the desecration of a book more than the loss of human life.

/Geek-to-geek humor :)

Charles,

This may serve as a good post update:
[Link: homepage.mac.com...]

#27 alibey

Or maybe just a good parse & sort routine for Christians livings in SA?

#12, ROB

If W continues to remain silent about this, then the House of Saud must have compromising photos of him in college with a sheep or something.

Here is the something:

...According to classified documents from Dutch intelligence and US government archives, President George W. Bush's grandfather, Prescott Bush made considerable profits off Auschwitz slave labor. In fact, President Bush himself is an heir to these profits from the holocaust which were placed in a blind trust in 1980 by his father, former president George Herbert Walker Bush. ...

Read it all.

PS- President Bush: All is forgiven; just stop holding hands with those Saudi princes, OK?

A Saudi official denied allegations that the kingdom has arrested and tortured Christians, saying such actions run counter to Islamic tolerance.

When asked for a comment an Amnesty International representative is quoted as saying, " Well, if that's what _{abu ghraib}they said, that's _gitmo good enough _gulag for us."

OT: Naziism And AntiSemitism In The Arab World by Matthias Kuentzel

Read it all, especially "Islamists and Europeans"

CAIRO, Egypt - A Saudi official denied allegations that the kingdom has arrested and tortured Christians, saying such actions run counter to Islamic tolerance.

Funny, Islamic tolerance = torture and arrests instead of beheading and stoning...

#35 elvis

I get tired of all these Prescott Bush rumors and leftist claptrap. Show me the bank account numbers, addresses, phone numbers, etc.

By the way, if the documents are "classified," what is the name of the person who photocopied them, photographed them, or memorized them?

Sorry if I sound irate, but all of this reminds me of something Kerry said during the campaign, "Some people say..." and then he went on with his made-up charges against Bush. Pure bull

#35 Elvis

Surely you can do better than that.

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/030214.html

#40 religion of bacon

Thank you very much!

A classic case of bald faced lying.
Without honour or self respect.

What'd they do, hire Baghdad Bob as their spokesman?

Lying to infidels is a holy thing in Islam.

This makes the concept of a "peace agreement" with such people an absolute absurdity.

When I first came to this place (LGF) during rathergate, I started thinking, woah the folks here are 'irate' all the time... then I realized that I have been 'irate' at the MSM and socialists and such for a long time and only really could vent with certain people... I don't post much because I find myself often reading already what I would post... but I like having a place to come and see that I don't have to keep all the frustration inside... gives me hope that we can reverse the crumbling of the foundations of civilization with the multivoice of the blogoshpere...

Speaking of lying arabs:

Burst of Arab-Israeli Violence Shatters a Time of Calm

GANEI TAL, Gaza, June 7 - A mortar shell fired by Palestinian militants in Gaza struck a greenhouse in the Israeli settlement of Ganei Tal on Tuesday, killing three workers and wounding five more.

A wounded Palestinian worker was evacuated by Israeli military medics following a mortar explosion in Ganei Tal.

The dead were two Palestinians and a Chinese laborer, and the wounded were Palestinians from Khan Yunis, all sitting at a metal table in a greenhouse sorting fresh chives into bundles tied with rubber bands. Two were injured seriously, two moderately and one slightly. They were taken to an Israeli hospital in Beersheba for treatment.

Islamic Jihad took responsibility for the attack, calling it retaliation for the death of Palestinians, including one of its commanders, at the hands of Israeli forces.

Funny, I remember when this unfolded last night. The mortar attack had struck first and Hamas claimed responsibility, plus it was in Gaza. News of the IJ chief being killed was in Jenin and released an hour or two later.

The official, who spoke to SPA on condition of anonymity

They are so tolerant, that it isn't safe to tell you who they are.

No problem, ROB

As a former Justice Department prosecutor, John Loftus once held some of the highest security clearances in the world, with special access to NATO Cosmic, CIA codeword, and Top Secret Nuclear files. As a private attorney, he works without charge to help hundreds of intelligence agents obtain lawful permission to declassify and publish the hidden secrets of our times. He is the author of four history books, three of which have been made into films, two were international best sellers, and one was nominated for the Pulitzer Prize.

On the other hand I found this hyperbole at your author's home site.

The authorized [Link: WWW...] of legendary answer-man Cecil Adams, World's Smartest Human, whose syndicated column has been enlightening readers of the Reader and other alternative newspapers since 1973.

CA, however, doesn't deny the the Loftus assertion, only the specifics.

There are none so blind as those who refuse to see. Of course, you could actually read my entire link since it's so large that it will take up much bandwith if I were to paste it here.

BTW, it's late here on the east coast, but I'll check back tomorrow.

'Nite all.

Timbre --

You are correct to resist believing rumors about the Bush-Walker clan Nazi connections.

You are correct to want solid data.

You can find plenty of it carefully assembled and documented by John Loftus.
See [Link: www.john_loftus.com...]

Elvis,

I think holding hands with Abdullah was over the next logical alternative who's worse. It was a risk for Abdullah now that I've had a chance to think about it. GWB doesn't deal with the kind of strident 'activist-militant-radicals' Abdullah might face in Saudi Arabia.

I'm not sure how to crack the Saudi Arabian nut. Do you really want us to go take over the "two holy places"? Of course not.

#13 Gagdad Bob  
They don't allow any non-Prophet organizations in Saudi Arabia.

Yet another all-time classic from the magic fingertips of Gagdad Bob!

Sorry - misplaced the dash in the link at No. 48

It should be [Link: www.john-loftus.com...]

#51 Clio

Sorry - misplaced the dash in the link at No. 48

How unfortunate.

This creeping Bush-trashing is just going to go on and on.

Well, I'm just glad the election is behind us, anyway.

OK, this is fricking ridiculous:

Man with (blood) stained chainsaw allowed into US

Kragar @ 53

Psychos with bloody chainsaws...

Not on the Official Government list of weapons... at least they took the knife... did he have a hockey mask with him too?

#53 & #55-

Bet they got the lighter and nail clippers too!

gonzo @ 56

Thank GOD... they got those too... blood covered doesn't count either... not on the Official List.

#55 Bubble Girl

No, but from his picture, he did have "da crazy eyes".

And as the liberals remind us with every stupid law (banning baseballs bats, screw drivers, garden utensils, you name it) everything is a weapon in the right hands.

OT

New Mexico authorities arrested a guy who had a vial of ricin around his neck.

Said he needed it because someone had threatened him and he needed the ricin for his protection!

Kragar @ 58

Yes... he did have "crazy I just cut someone's head off with a chainsaw eyes"

59 Bubble Girl

he needed the ricin for his protection!

Protection? I dont think that words means what that guy thinks it means.

#60 Bubble Girl

Yes... he did have "crazy I just cut someone's head off with a chainsaw eyes"

Hell, who hasn't had that look at least once in their lives?

um, right?

Beagle-
Good point about the Saudi successsor. Yes and it is too much of a conundrum.

Timbre, ROB-
I'm a Jew who voted for W. and was on the phone banks for him on election night. I believe W turned the page on the the old antisemitism mainly because of 911.
From my previous Loftus link-

..."I stood outside a Catholic church, which faced the ghetto," Mr. Meed said, "a young Jewish boy posing as a gentile. As I watched the ghetto being bombarded by the German artillery, I could see many of the Jews of my community jumping out of windows of burning buildings. I stood long and mute." The survivor concluded his reminiscence saying, "We tremble to think what could happen if we allow a new generation to arise ignorant of the tragedy which is still shaping the future.

"President Bush, appearing almost uncomfortable, read a statement that saidthat [sic] humanity was "bound by conscience to remember what happened" and that "the record has been kept and preserved." The record, Mr. Bush stated, was that one of the worst acts of genocide in human history "came not from crude and uneducated men, but from men who regarded themselves as cultured and well schooled, modern men, forward looking. Their crime showed the world that evil can slip in and blend in amid the most civilized surroundings. In the end only conscience can stop it."...

But W is yet being influenced by the arabists at state. However, I felt that getting that past crap out into the open is a way for me too say alright, enough already. And let's get on with the Wahhabi problem and those more radical, such as Al Queda, Hizbollah, Muslim Brotherhood, etc., and the Euro enablers.

Unfortunately, presidential capital is only good for about the first two years of his final term and I don't see him leveraging enough, Especially on the recent "compromise" on the clearly unconstitutional filibustering of judges, Bolton, etc., but that's another story.

G'nite again, I have a big day tomorrow.

Hell, who hasn't had that look at least once in their lives?

um, right?

/Slooowly tiptoeing out of the room... ;)

61 Kragar

That's what the guy said... of course, he would have wiped out the whole town too.. and himself...

62 Kragar

Well, I hope I have never had that crazy "I just cut off someone's head with a chainsaw look in my eyes" but if I did, I would probably not remember anything after I woke up in the psych ward.

#63 elvis

But W is yet being influenced by the arabists at state.

A conspiracy theory to justify exploring an older conspiracy theory.

Great. :[

/This is getting so freaking tiresome.

Dahlan: 'Israelis are trying to fool us'

Palestinian Authority Civil Affairs Minister Mohammed Dahlan on Tuesday accused Israel of failing to properly coordinate its withdrawal from the Gaza Strip and northern West Bank with the Palestinians.

Dahlan, who is in charge of coordinating the disengagement plan with Israel on behalf of the PA, met in Ramallah with US envoy William Ward and Quartet representative James Wolfenshohn and told them that Israel was refusing to hand over to the PA enough information about the areas slated for evacuation.

He warned that the PA would stop coordinating the pullout with Israel until it received maps, aerial photographs and details about the infrastructure of the settlements.

Yup, you got it. Its a trick to lure you into Gaza but you sure outsmarted us. Guess they should just call the whole disengagement off then?

Considering coordination was never part of the original plan anyways, Dahlan can go play a game of hide and go fuck himself for all I care.

well we know for sure that christians aren't arrested and tortured in mecca and medina because NO CHRISTIANS are allowed in either city--talkin' religious apartheid tolerance blues

"...our tolerant Islamic belief which guarantees the rights of Muslims and residents of different religions and ethnicities alike."

Of course, nothing mentioned about what those "rights" are and whether they are all the same for each group.

It seems that unlike America, Saudi Arabia does not mishandle the Bibles they give to their Christian detainees.

RightasRain-

Read the whole effing thing! And it's not conspiracy theory. And read this too and learn something.

..."Jack Philby and Ibn Saud betrayed the British Empire and made the American oil companies masters of the region. The man who helped them do it was Allen Dulles, an American spy who had befriended Philby while he was coordinating American intelligence gathering in the Middle East in the first half of the 1920's.
"Between them these men built the very foundations of the modern Middle East. They were the architects of the oil weapon, the instigators of war, the manipulators of history. More important, Philby's and Ibn Saud's political allegiance was to Nazi Germany, while much of Dulles's profits came from the same source.
"Unlimited by their hatred of Jews, they waged an unremitting campaign against the Zionists and, after 1948, against Israel. they fought their secret war in silence, sabotaging peace conferences, funding terrorist groups, betraying all who stood in their way. ...
"...One after another, the Western nations were induced to abandon their facade of support for Zionism and acquiesce to his demand to abandon the Jewish state. It was Philby who represented the Arab point of view in the Western capitals and who subtly sabotaged the Zionist aspirations at the Palestinian partition conferences, while pretending to befriend the Jewish leaders.
"Jack Philby was Ibn Saud's proxy in the secret war to stop Zionist immigration before World War II. Philby led the campaign to play the Nazis, the British, and the Americans against each other. He created the the oil weapon as an instument of foreign policy and made presidents and prime ministers bend to his will. He designed the Arab ultimatum: no Jews in Palestine, or no oil for the West.
"It was Dulles who delivered on the blackmail by threatening Western oil supplies at the most desperate stage of Workd War II. While paying lip service to their promise to partition Palestine into Arab and Zionist states, the West, especially the British, slowly strangled the birth of the Jewish homeland through restricted immigration, revised interpretatons,and an endless series of committees to study the future of Palestine. At a critical point in history, Jack Philby held the keys to Palestine in his hand. The gates were closed to the 6 million Jews who fell victim to the Nazis. ..."
The Secret War Against The Jews, How Western Espionage Betrayed The Jewish People, John Loftus and MarK Aarons, pp 21-22, St. Martin's Press, NYC, 1994.

Saudi filthy Muslim LIARS. Their `religion` is a BIG LIE.
"'The more we kiss the hadjis' tushes, the more they denounce us and the less they respect us,' one of them told me. 'Just take a look at the DOD's procedures for the handling and inspecting of detainee Korans . You won't believe how impossibly respectful and careful they are. What good does this do us? All we get is lies, lawsuits and riots in return.'"
[Link: www.wnd.com...]

Rayra-
Same goes for you as RasR. I guess you don't like it when Jews stick up for themselves;
too f*cking bad.

#71 elvis

Trying to construct a vast right wing conspiracy (or whatever) case against President Bush in the year 2005 does NOT help America OR Israel.

You're not proving the current conspiracy theory you're trying to claim - you're only clouding the issue by providing a blizzard of material about all sorts of other things.

This is precisely how conspiracy-mongering works, and you're involved in it.

I truly wish it would stop.

Any chance? I doubt it.

Totally OT: I'm on Oahu for a few days, any other lizards out here? Drop me a line...

#73 elvis

I guess you don't like it when Jews stick up for themselves;
too f*cking bad.

No, I don't like it when people lie about America and our President.

The MSM do it constantly and we FACT-CHECK their asses on it.

Somehow, it's supposed to be ok if people just run their conspiracy theories here instead of posting them via the MSM.

It's not ok.

It doesn't help Israel OR America to lie about America.

Why the hell would you want to weaken Israel's only friend (even if you think America is not a good enough friend)?

Do you think Israel has superpowers lined up around the block to want to befriend Israel?

America has 5.2 million Jews here. If you weaken America, how does it help American Jews?

I'm in the process of buying a house in Israel. Spitting on America with conspiracy theories would weaken both America and Israel.

It's precisely what our enemies want.

Why the hell would you want it?

There are about 500,000 Christians living in Saudi Arabia, mostly there as servant class. This is what I read. I don't know how many slaves there are, also. I know up until the 1970's, there were reports of black slaves seen everywhere in the open throughout the Kingdom. To those of you who may be just be passing through and still somewhat unintiated about Islam, it is the single most racist ideology, as revealed by its long history, ever perpetrated upon humanity. This is a religion that was built on slavery, through its prophet. These Arab Muslims are not the poor, oppressed victims, as they would have you believe. Saudi Arabia just may have more billionaries per population than any country on earth. It probably does, considering all the wealth that resides in one family, the Saud, with its 6,000 princes. The benefits doled out annually to these people by the government are staggering.

#77 reader

It probably does, considering all the wealth that resides in one family, the Saud, with its 6,000 princes. The benefits doled out annually to these people by the government are staggering.

The Saud family summer vacation costs $300 million each year.

But what we have now is in a sense worse than dhimmitude. After all, we are the more powerful party. We are the ones who bestride the world like a colossus. We are the country that arrogantly or idealistically claims to be setting standards for all the nations of the earth. And yet, from our superior position of unquestioned military power and insufferable moral pretentiousness, we engage in a vicious double standard against ourselves, in which we condemn and punish our fellow Westerners for using critical language about Islam (let us remember that Americans as well as Europeans have been threatened with legal action for condemning Islam), while we reward our Muslim enemies who are openly engaged in a war of vilification and civilizational destruction against us.
[Link: www.frontpagemag.com...]

America and Israel have a total of almost 11 million Jews (of the total 13-14 million Jews in the world.)

America also has another 5 million "relatives" of Jews (people who are eligible for citizenship in Israel although not actually considered to be "Jews" according to Jewish law.)

So we're talking about 16 million Jews and relatives of Jews (total) in America and Israel.

Weakening America and Israel via conspiracy theories is pretty much an attempt to commit freaking suicide, G-d forbid.

Why would anyone want to do this (anyone other than our enemies)?

Re: 32 rightasrain

"Muslims are also naturally Object-Oriented since they freak out over the desecration of a book more than the loss of human life."

Yes, and they need to lay off the "OOP".

But most importantly the Saudi kingdom needs more effective "garbage collection" and a secure "sandbox". =|;o)

(Geek Speak)

There is a belief by some officials that the phrase "war on terror" is not specific enough, said a second official.
Good. I have been saying that for quite awhile.

And a third topic is finding new ways to discourage Muslim clerics from preaching hate and encouraging violence.
Once again, they will only be able to do this, if at all, by going to the roots of why the clerics preach this way in the first place. And it ain't because of poverty and racism.

[Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]

#81 Pennies for Patriots

Yes, and they need to lay off the "OOP".

But most importantly the Saudi kingdom needs more effective "garbage collection" and a secure "sandbox". =|;o)

(Geek Speak)

LOL! :)

Yeah, more effective garbage collection would definitely help. Every time they bring up their society, they're bogged down with "memory leaks" from hell (with all resources tied up in hating America and Israel.)

They need a permanent BSOD (blue screen of you-know-what) or else a firm halt command with no possibility of a warm or cold restart. :)

/Hi!

P.S. Pennies for Patriots

Did I mix enough metaphors for you? :-)

At last a peaceful thread, hmmm

Orderly shutdown and poweroff in progress... :)

#84 rightasrain

Did I mix enough metaphors for you? :-)

All I know is its the bottom of the ninth, looking at 4th and 9, facing a full court press, and if we arent careful, we'll either be in sudden death or down for the count.

(and then I ran out of sports)

#87 Kragar

All I know is its the bottom of the ninth, looking at 4th and 9, facing a full court press, and if we arent careful, we'll either be in sudden death or down for the count.

(and then I ran out of sports)

[Pound, pound, pound!]

Ok, I'm pinned. :)

G'nite folks! :-)

Rayra, RasR-
Before the allergy medication starts to make me drowsy --You are totally misreading or selectively reading me. Past history isn't theoretical, nor am I trying to weaken Isreal or America. On the contrary facing up to mistakes is the first step in overcoming them. And this is what I believe W is doing. And if you saw Hannity and Colmes the day before yesterday you would have heard John Loftus say the same thing in support of W.

You really need to check out some of Loftus's links which are very reliable and posted on this thread. Read his The Secret War Against the Jews which is extemely well documented of which I pasted an excerpt earlier here. It was published before W's first term, and documents the behind the scenes work of the arabists (yes, they are real -- the ones also in Europe whom Kerry was kissing up to before the election, remember?) and the spies whose work by nature is conspiratorial who don't make it into mainstream history texts. It's not an indictment of W or America which is still a republic whose private companies do business with all types of countries and companies regardless of their governments. This doesn't make us Nazis despite what the LLL or MSM think who, by the way, have been totally discredited by the recent Pew Research poll.

But if your looking for an apology, fuggedaboutit.

#89 elvis

On the contrary, I do see President Bush learning from history - which is why I think he's making sure this time that the Paleos can't move forward with any sort of final status negotiations unless they end their terror themselves. He saw what Clinton did and the disasterous results from it.

America has definitely had individuals in the past who did things that worked out horribly for Israel, including Clinton.

All this "America did this..." and "America did that..." fingerpointing is counter-productive right now.

Trying to almost blackmail Bush with the stories of how his grandfather was part of a group of investors who were investing in Europe in the 1920s and 1930s is even more counter-productive.

The situation is difficult enough as it is.

All this whining and moaning with wild claims about Bush being under the control of (whoever) - it's being presented as part of a blizard of information from past decades (as though what's going on NOW needs no proof if you can bring up facts from 70 or 80 years ago.)

This won't help Israel.

No, I don't expect an apology.

Watching the anti-American and anti-Bush rants has become a daily part of life here at LGF.

Who needs the MSM for this anymore when we have a few individuals here who have brought the ills of the MSM right into our laps.

/I'm sick to death of it, too.

OT:

I don't know if Charles would do a post on one old quote so I'm going to put it here and bold some to get everyone to read it.

This is the BEST four-word definition of Islam I've ever seen. Whenever you see best capitalized look for the qualifier. Furthermore, it's a strong summary paragraph.

my blog

FREDERIC SPIEGELBERG
From Chapter 16: Islam and Sufism
Living Religions of the World (1956)

When in the 7th century Mohammed enunciated his creed, he did so to a society existing in a state of primitive consciousness; and one whose environment -- sunscorched, storm-wracked, and unproductive -- was an arduous one. The people who wandered over this land were a savage people united only by tribal alliance, and had no highly-developed system of ethics, social integration, or cultural expression. Mohammed understood them thoroughly, adapted his religion accordingly, and in the space of his lifetime united and transformed these vagrant peoples into an empire, chiefly by forcing them to accept a common loyalty not to the tribe or an individual, but to a national religious community. This was a nation in the Jewish sense of a group of people, rather than of a group of people in a specific geographical area. The transformation was unique; the only empire in history to be totally rooted in a religion. In Islam religion created an empire; in Christianity, an empire adopted a faith and called itself The Holy Roman Empire, which, as the old saw goes, was neither holy, nor Roman, nor an empire. Whether led by Arabs, Persians, or in later times the Turks, Islam remained essentially all three, a portable theocratic state, much of whose impetus came from the fact that it was portable.

Can anyone do Islam better in four words?

It's not good enough to present questions as proof, either (eg, "Why would Bush do x, if not for y?" with "y" being something pretty evil or disgusting.)

The other day, I saw someone saying that it was a stretch to believe that ANYONE in Washington believes that a Paleo state would bring peace.

This person went on to say, "THEREFORE" (ie, the speculation was treated as fact without any proof whatsoever and a conclusion was drawn about the real motives - this was also treated as fact.)

This isn't how valid arguments are built.

It's just an imitation of the usual MSM smear job.

91 Beagle

Can anyone do Islam better in four words?

I'll give it a shot.

Psycho Heathen Death Cult

Nazism cloaked as Religion

well, there are 2 tries at least

#93 Kragar

Psycho Heathen Death Cult

Nazism cloaked as Religion

That's the spirit.

I still like "a portable theocratic state" which could be chopped down to three words "portable theocratic state".

Psycho Jew-haters from Hell

the real moonies

Barbarians

#96 BignJames

the real moonies

That's a strong candidate with only three words, and you could hack off "the" with a scimitar or a dull knife to get to two words.

origional moonies...from where mooning origionated

Spencer at Jihad Watch getting some ugly threats

[ reviving--islam---.--com--ed] is back, so I thought you might be interested in seeing the reaction they had to my publicizing of their death threat against me. This material was posted on the RevivingIslam forums in the three days between my posting the threat and the shutdown of their site -- a shutdown that has now proved to be temporary.

I expect that most people in this country still don't realize that there are some among us who pray such prayers and harbor such wishes. I hope that law enforcement officials are looking out for the people who posted these things, although no one has responded to my reporting of this material.

The "Jew at Jihad Watch" to which they're referring is, of course, me. I am honored by the designation, but it is erroneous, and arises from the Qur'an's depiction of the Jews as the most persistent and clever enemies of Islam.

Jew At Jihad Watch Strikes Again, Claims He's not a Member of RI

May Allah rip out his spine from his back and split his brains in two, and then put them both back, and then do it over and over again. May He put this friend of shaytaan in the worst part of jahannum. Ameen.

And Allah is capable of all things.

All of the following is written by Richard Spencer ash-Shaytaani [that is, Robert Spencer of Satan] on his Jewish Zionist blog, where he quotes some of the posters on this board. I've put these quotes into [quote/quote] to make it easier to read without going to his Hedonistic web site...

Then he quotes my May 31 post. Hedonistic, eh? Everybody into the pool!

or...original moonies...from where mooning originated

pimf

"...reports of 46 confirmed arrests of Christians in the wake of reports of the desecration of the Quran at the military prison camp in Guantanamo, Cuba."

What desecration? There WAS NO desecration at Guantanamo, unless we count the Muslim detainees' desecration and mishandling of the Koran!

Persecution based on lies based on distortions, followed by denials... par for the Saudi course!

Damn ! Beagle on the Morning Dead Thread ! I feel honored.

Morning, all.

#103 Mike C.

I've been doing some computer research which every once in a while comes up with an interesting quote more topical than obscure.

Honored that you care to join me. Now I think I'll honor myself with some coffee.

# 104 Beagle

Well, it's beer time here, not coffee, but I'll join you in spirit. I spend way too much time in front of a computer to do any real research on one, if you get my drift.

#105 Mike C.

That's why I like short quotes. We're defining Islam in four words or less it seems. I have "portable theocratic state" from an old book. I'll just stick with that one and see what everyone else does.

# 106 Beagle

Oh. Well, not a quotation, but I would propose "Primitive Superstition." Or, if you want to get even more concise, just go with "Superstition." But then, I'm a hard-core sceptic, and that's extremely condemming language in my universe.

Bah. Calculus exam this morning. Those of you in the correct time zone, please drink a beer for me.

106 Beagle
107 Mike C.

I still stand firmly behind Psycho Heathen Death Cult since it does fit them so well.

Now watch, some kid will read this and name his garage band that.

MikeC.

Concise yet descriptive, very consise. Hmmm? Can't go lower than one word with a nasty defintion in word count. You could go for a word fragment or syllable I guess.

Morning Sarah D.

1D of 2x² is 4x right? I majored in history.

#110 Beagle

Morning! Looks right to me...

Oh no, I'm doomed!

#109 Kragar

I still stand firmly behind Psycho Heathen Death Cult since it does fit them so well.

So far there are no joiners and no quarter has been given.

Combining several of the definitions looks fruitful..

I'm partial to whining death cult.

113 Sarah D.

Whining Psycho Death Cult then?

#113 Sarah D.

whining death cult

Again, a strong, short, descriptive, but most importantly unique combination of a few words. "Death cult" is bound to be repeated in several entries.

Nobody has joined, or picked someone else's definition exactly. Which I think is interesting.

Finally, a coalition arises.

Kragar,

How about parasitic psycho death cult?

Completely off the wall... Just heard that the combined ages of The Rolling Stones is 242. "Don't trust anyone over 30..." Heh.

#7 Sven,

Hey the Muslims are reknowned for their tolerance and paternal feelings for the poor infidels...

...and for their own children. They have wonderful paternal feelings for their own blood and flesh. Like honor killings, for instance.

I'm off, you all have a wonderful morning/evening!

Ah yes. Miguel hot upon the missing word in the definition..."cannibals".

Good morning *everyone*.

#121
Good morning, littleoldlady :) Golda said it just perfectly. "The day they love their children..." you know it well. Saying "cannibals" is a great simple word to describe it. "The day they stop being cannibals..."

I would call them "Muslims" or "Arabs" or "Islamists", and deal with them as a serious matter. No easy derision. Aloftness should be this side's watermark. But that's me and I have a buzz.

No short definitions for MigueldowninMexico.

You could, possibly, sum up Christianity in one word: agape. One risks oversimplifying.

OMG ! Perhaps I'm behind the curve on this one, but has everybody seen the picture of "Lurch" featured on The Drudge Report ? Ladies, would you ever be so desperate as to date that ? And he got a freaking 'D' in freshman geology ! Pardon me, but that's just sick !

But now it's time to forage for food, so back in a bit.

And good bye everybody, I'm about to pass the line of Iron Fist's rule. I'll go and sleep it off now. God bless all. :)

#129 Beagle
You just nailed it! AGAPE = Christianity. If we could just live it!. I'm so sorry I have to go now, would love talking to you. Hope some other day. bye everybody.

Morning all.

That's a very interesting task set by Beagle.

I like the "portable Theocratic state" but Sarah. Ds "Parasitical" explains so much about Islam.

Imperious Parasitical Cult?

I know Iran is often described as a Theocracy, but is that really accurate? I thought "Theos" was God or Divine from Greek.

If God is ruling Iran, I'm Cleopatra.

What's the term for "Priest rule"?

Sleep well, Miguel.

That was an accident.

OT...UK Foreign Minister Jack Straw (BBC radio and Reuters)..."We are not dealing with Hamas leadership and won't deal with them until they have dropped their charter committing themselves to the destruction of Israel, and give up violence as a legitimate tool."...

[Link: www.alertnet.org...]

What is the catch here? None? Well relay your message to the White House.

Agape + Justice = Christianity

I love that.

Look, one of the basic ideas of America is that you are responsible for your own actions and not those of others. Blaming Bush for what his father or grandfather may have done is anti-American.

As far as Bush and Israel goes, one of the secrets of being a good poker player, which Bush is, or a good military commander is to never let the other side know what you are going to do. I believe that Bush and the Israeli government have a plan that will increase the security of Israel in the long run. I don't have a clue what it is, but I trust Bush.

128 Smit

What's the term for "Priest rule"?

um, theocracy. From Websters: a political unit governed by a deity (or by officials thought to be divinely guided)

#131 Smit = Real Christianity.

I like the "portable Theocratic state" but Sarah. Ds "Parasitical" explains so much about Islam.

Imperious Parasitical Cult?

I only like "state" because by definition they are not portable. Cult or superstition is probably better in another defintion.

Agape says so much without blowing the lid off the definition in terms of words and going into history. The best part is the history built into the word itself. It's a Greek word for one thing.

OT

GOOD PRACTICE FOR UPCOMING HURRICANE SEASON AS A STRONG TROPICAL STORM, AT WORST A MINIMAL CAT 1 HURRICANE, HEADS FOR BETWEEN SE LOUISIANA AND FLORIDA PANHANDLE. WEEKEND TIMING MEANS PARTIERS CAN ENJOY THE WORLD FAMOUS "HURRICANE" AT PAT O'BRIEN'S ON BOURBON STREET^*. ^{(Where I have been drunk.)}

Latest GFDL says landfall just short of hurricane force near Cocodrie, LA (where I have had a flat tire (cracked sidewall) on a Sunday and drove all the way to Lafayette on a donut).

Canadian Global has an interesting prediction, a strong tropical storm or minimal hurricane that stalls offshore Tampa all weekend, which would mean incredible rains for Peninsula Florida and lots of rig evacuations eastern and central GOMEX.

UK MET Office model says weal tropical storm on Louisiana coast, Sunday instead of late saturday per GFDL.

GFS says tropical storm in Mississippi late Saturday. This means the heaviest rains miss New Orleans, as the "right" side is likely the wet side.

System still poorly organized, center probably right on coast of Honduras. NHC currently estimates the surface low is about 1004 mb, and an WC-130J or WC-130H Hercules of the USAFR 53rd Weather Reconnasaince Squadron is due in for a low level investigative mission this afternoon.

So, load up the cooler, and head to the beach. No big damage, just a little excitement!

I predict strong winds and rain near Florida.

Probably not that strong, although it looks like the Canadian has the strongest winds, and just sitting west of Tampa for 3 days, lots of soggy roots so squalls that rotated inland would uproot trees, although I'd guess Frances and Jean took care of the easily uprooted trees.

The Canadian is an outlier, with most models leaning eastern Louisiana to western Florida Panhandle.

If I were a single man, I'd take Friday off, head to NOLA and get a hotel room.

Tip:

Article in today's The New York Times here:

Last week, as evening prayers began at a Shiite mosque down the street, a suicide bomber believed to belong to a Sunni extremist group linked to Al Qaeda blew himself up inside the mosque compound, splattering his remains across the high courtyard wall.

Minutes later, a mob, believed to be led by outraged Shiites, stormed Mr. Rangoonwala's KFC outlet, dousing its floors with gasoline, setting it ablaze and then blocking the entry of rescue workers. Six hours later, the six bodies were hauled out. Four had been burned. Two had frozen to death in the walk-in freezer; their bodies were found only after a mobile phone belonging to one of the men rang. The dead had all worked at the KFC, and they were all local men in their mid-20's.

I'd guess Frances and Jean took care of the easily uprooted trees.

Around here Charley took care of some of the not-so-easily-uprooted trees. Frances straightened out one of my oak trees, a menace to residential structures.

I repeat, large oak trees in hurricanes will kill you.

Lots of religious speculation on this site, I've noticed. Obviously, the Islamist nuts are to be ridiculed and exposed. Those of us who are atheists, though, who have studied various world religions, find gross absurdities in all of the world's religious movements.

A man wrestles God...and wins!
[Link: www.thebricktestament.com...]

God sells His Peeps into slavery:
[Link: www.thebricktestament.com...]

#142 marchman

Lots of religious speculation on this site, I've noticed. Obviously, the Islamist nuts are to be ridiculed and exposed. Those of us who are atheists, though, who have studied various world religions, find gross absurdities in all of the world's religious movements.

Too many words, but at least you provided pictures.

marchman
Aw. Come on. No religion compares with the ROP™ when it comes to gross absurdities...and worse.

#146 AI (not Amnesty International)
Good morning.

Check out marchman's, eh, stop-action, toy...

What means "agape"?

...Reader's Digest condensed Bible...

Genesis is fairly entertaining. The plot moves much more quickly.

Catholic Agape

I'm not going to define it. It's common for Christian organizations to use the word. I think the depth of the definition is what makes it interesting.

#152 American Infidel

Thank you.

New biography of MAO reveals him as the worst monster of the 20th century..

Made Stalin and Hitler look like Mother Teresa.

Ah the left and it's "heroes". Where would we be without them?

Thank you too, Beagle.

I could personally do with a few more examples of these words in the fight against Islam:

nemesis - Retributive justice in its execution or outcome

smite - To afflict retributively; chasten or chastise.

castigate - To inflict severe punishment

scourge - A source of widespread dreadful affliction and devastation such as that caused by pestilence or war.

I think those will do for starters.

#157 littleoldlady

You're welcome. I think it's funny that I provided the historical Catholic link and AI provided the Greek short definition.

I need to get outside if it continues to be dry for another few minutes.

Thanks for the fun, lizards.

155 TMF

Ah the left and it's "heroes". Where would we be without them?

I know. A lot better off.

Good Morning!
Lots of linkies I see.

{Littleoldlady}

)Infidelita(

Linkies 'R Us

Hiya Peacekeeper! :-)

Well, with all the new criticism of Amnesty International I see a renewed need for a new nick for you Cruella.

It all depends on what the definition of "tolerant", "torture" and "arrest" is. Kind of like their twisted logic that lauds killers of Israelis are "freedom fighters" while killers of Saudis by the same means are "terrorists". These statements would be comical if not so obviously part of their disinformation propaganda scheme.

OK, here you go. Just heard on CNN Int. that some Japanese sailor docked at his home port, setting the new record for the oldest person to solo circumnavigate the world. He's 77. Took him 244 days. And this was his 7th circumnavigation. Absolutely unreal.

#153 Beagle

Catholic Agape

I'm not going to define it. It's common for Christian organizations to use the word. I think the depth of the definition is what makes it interesting.

That's one of my favorite concepts of Catholic thought. Certainly one part of it would be the notion of "kenosis," which is found all throughout the Jewish and some Eastern religious traditions.

Mike
I saw the video, he was dressed in a red shirt with white floppy hat-Gilligan.

The reported last words of Muhammad ---

He said, "Turn the pagans out of the 'Arabian Peninsula'... (Hadith 5:716)

# 137 Ed

Drop the large font orange type. Please. I'm begging you.

# 144 AI

Nothing wrong with being an atheist. Remember, when all is said and done, an atheist believes in only one less god than you do.

PK you want believe it but it happened again

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

#177 double dip

I wonder how old his wife Aisha bint Abu Bakr would have been at that time - 11?

that's wOnt

Linkies:
Agape -yeah
Mao- F'in bastard. We could/shoulda stopped him but it looks like we blew it.
Chruchill- Pathological liar.
African Genitals- Uh huh, they're doomed.
Unholy alliance- seen it before.
Self Loathing Mullahs- They should be.

Please, no more!

Maybe Dean should chair the Wahhabi Party since he is already screaming at the white Christians anyway

I'M.. SCREAMING AT YOU... WHITE... CHRISTIANS!
(solomon pantings line)

Heartburn
"The truth is that a number of people around here (you included, BabbaZee) create a chatty conversational environment about what we are dealing with, and most certainly contribute to a light-hearted atmosphere of fluffy disdain for our detractors, and less than whole-hearted commitment to the issue at hand.

...
So back off with the fuzzy talk, and save the care bears. I don't want it, I don't need it, and I don't think I'm alone. I want to look evil square in the eye and never blink.

...
And as for the rest of you in the knitting circle, that goes for you as well.

All right, really grumpy big dog Johnson. I will never speak of you, to you again. (SIGH)

US office focuses on Palestinian terror

The US Department of Justice is opening an office aimed at intensifying the effort to capture and prosecute Palestinian terrorists who have killed Americans abroad.

The opening of the Office of Justice for Victims of Overseas Terrorism was mandated by the passage last December of the Koby Mandell Act, named for the 13-year-old Israeli-American boy who was killed along with a friend while spelunking in the West Bank in 2001.

The bill, which requires the US government to give equal treatment to all US citizens harmed by terrorism overseas, regardless of the terrorists' country of origin or residence, was conceived to force US authorities to pursue Palestinian murderers of Americans in Israel more actively.

AI - Little old lady was right yesterday, the meds had me up like 38 hours at that point, Tony was putting an AC in his Mom's window, and I couldnt sleep. I am rarely on at night either

# 182 AI

Didn't happen to read it's post. Won't bother, either. I'm willing to take your word for it. But do cut down on the shots at us atheists. We're a sensitive lot, you know. You'll hurt our feelings, and then we'll take advantage of the US court system and sue you into the next dimension.

#186 Peacekeeper
I actually laughed, cause it read to me like this:

Hey you really nice, funny person. Fuck you!

and how FUNNY is that?

Doubledip

The last words of Mohammed were " You're kneeeling on my ...chessst."
P'eacekee'per 5:137

Mike C ~ this G-d fearing woman loves your athiest ass.

BabbaZee,

I'm sorry to hear that! How many more days on the prednisone? Think you can last?

Good Morning Friends!

Hey Loppy - try not to be too nice or funny today, it seems that pisses people off.
LOL!

{Babbazee}
I have resolved not to talk about it/him.

Cruella is very right, too many West Coast Lizards all have sand in their clams.

# 192 BabbaZee

Ah, I think I hear the Prednizone talking there.

In a case of "F*** em"

Palestinian Prisoners on Hunger Strike After Qur'an Abuse

GAZA CITY, June 8, 2005 (IslamOnline.net & News Agencies) – Palestinian prisoners in the Israeli Meggido prison have gone on hunger strike Wednesday, June 8, to protest the desecration of the Noble Qur'an by their Israeli jailers.

Little Old Lady, tommorow is the last day. I think I'll be fine. How could I not take your word as law, being little, old, a lady and from the B.S.Tov? LOL!
I conked out last night about midnight and woke up @ 6 which was a long block for me.
But I am loopy as a MF right now.

195 BabbaZee

Uh-oh - another nasty night at the blog?

Loppy
Good morning! Hows the Canal Zone?

Ahh! Here y'all are! All Hail to the Knights of the Serial Koran Defilers!

Mike could be, who knows! :-)

Hail Paximus Minimus Ben Juden

#196 Peacekeeper

...nobody rules these streets tonight but me! The Atomic Punk!
~ Van Halen

lops, Babba...how y'all feelin?

PK

The canal is killing. Good thing they gave me some drugs...

Babba draws fire. It's almost funny. Right out of the Blue I saw "Cartman" ( not to be confused with Eric Cartman's conscience) get all paranoid about her.
Then the above link. It's good to know where you stand with people, I guess.

Laughter and humor are indespensible weapons.
You can be the worlds greatest warrior but if you can not divest your anger it will swallow you. Anger is the enemy's road IN to you.

pax

my toof is sore. :(

I guess I can't complain compared to Babbas woes!

For those who missed it last night:

Britain admits contact with Hamas

Britain has begun low-level, low-profile meetings with representatives of Hamas despite having branded the group a terrorist organization.

Foreign Minister Jack Straw confirmed there have been two meetings with members of the group's political wing who were recently elected mayors in the occupied territories.

Straw said London "faced a dilemma" following the decision by Hamas's non-military wing to participate in the elections in the Palestinian Authority.

Please forgive my laziness, but can someone link me to the pissy people posts from last night so I know what y'all are talking about? I'm on drugs and I forgot my smart girl glasses.

PK Cartman came right later on.

All outrage, all the time. I couldn't do it.

Loppy LOL!

Damn, Y'all! I miss Reza! I wonder what part of the green zone he splattered himself all over...

Mike C.

Are you in China? My mom is leaving for Singapore tomorrow a.m.

Anger, steely skin, ways to the Darkside these are.

#199 BabbaZee

My word as Law?! Come live in my house! (Nah. Nevermind. I might get used to it and with a teenager also living here that could be fatal!)

I get the same reaction after a couple days of taking codeine. It's not supposed to happen but it does.

littleoldlady

Good Morning, Mama!

{littleoldlady}

The last words of Mohammed were " You're kneeeling on my ...chessst."
P'eacekee'per 5:137

Allahu Fubar!
ULULUL:LULUL:ULULULU!

I'm like loppy...linky to the PP(pissy posts)please...

(and everyone graons at yet another useless acronymn..)

Lil ol Lady you da Bubbe, mamma-san.
;-)

Mornin all! :)

someone has prob. already said it but...

CAIRO, Egypt - A Saudi official denied allegations that the kingdom has arrested and tortured Christians, saying such actions run counter to Islamic tolerance.

Eat up those lies dhimmis...yum, yum. ( *snicker, giggle, evil grin)

I posted it a ways up the thread, scroll, ye lazy ring dings LOL!

Babba
Glad Cartman came around. I had my doubts. The trouble with text is that it is easy to impart the wrong spin to words.
I for one am tired of tough talk, heard too much of it, it all sounds like braggadocio to me. Tough people don't waste time telling you how tough they are.

Good morning, Everyone.

Big storm in Minneapolis last night. Power went out, basement started leaking...Rough night.

Howdy loppyd!

Sorry you're feeling poorly!

(pax - fire up that Mi Shebeirach list!)

#219 Peacekeeper
Anger, steely skin, ways to the Darkside these are.

Absolutely.

Sam{W}ise, so sorry for your troubles.

loppy-

I'm on drugs and I forgot my smart girl glasses.

Excuses, excuses...

# 218 loppyd

Yup, still here. I was supposed to depart today, but had to change that to Saturday. No. No seats, so no go. Maybe Monday. Sigh. But hey, I got to take an entire half day off last Sunday (first time since early March) and buy prezzies for the wife and daughters. I need the extra time to finish this damned report anyway. The reporting part is always the worst of any project. But at least on this project, I'm doing it in the office, at the client's expense, not back at the house on my own nickle.

sorry for the probably double ya'll -

but A.I. (mornin!) -

not believe there is a CREATOR how can he have rights?

Just because they don't believe, doesn't make it not so. Thus, even the unbelievers have the Rights given by God. they just don't acknowledge the Giver. Which is ok with me...cause one day we all will, like it or not. But that's just from a believer. :) haha
I don't hold anyone's faith, or lack thereof against them. until they start chopping off heads and blowing up buildings.or...trying to destory the country.

PK
Zactly. Smart people dont tell you how smart they are.
Honest people don't start sentences with, "To be honest with you" (what, you were lying to me all this time till now, ya shit?) and the trustworthy never say "Trust me"
They dont have to.

Babba-

Thank you {Ring Bearer}. Could be worse.

Are you feeling better, Babba?

#225 BabbaZee

Lil ol Lady you da Bubbe, mamma-san.

NOT YET! She's only 16. Bite your tongue and don't give me a kena hura please! (Pui pui spit!)

#198 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Hey they can starve

Do you think they'll re-use the list or make a new one

Mike
You can be an atheist. You can apologize to us in the next world.

Howard Dean is happy to hear that Christians are being murdered. You know - he hates them and all ...

W-lover

That stinks! No pump thing?

{W-lover}

There can be no honor in a heart that has no hope

Little Ol, LOLOLOLOL
AHHH I misunderstood I thopught she was the grandbaby
I take it all back!
[spit-spit-spit]

So Lil Ol, a 16 year old daughter? You are probably younger than me LOL!

230 littleoldlady

Thanks, but I'll be ok. Vicodin is nice. I have a very pleasant buzz going right now. LOL!

W-luv I am all steroided out, funkadelic.

# 233 AI

That's ok...I would like to put the Declaration of Independence on trial and see how an atheist likes it...LOL...

I like it just fine, thank you very much. I don't let the cultural constraints of the day get in the way of my basic understanding of the meaning. And I don't piss and moan about it somehow being government establishment of religion, either. I'm the atheist that want's the Christmas tree in the town square, wants to hear those carols at the high shool program, and that wishes that those other atheists would STFD and STFU.

lopps-

The window well had standing water in it, so once the level got above the window casing it just came on in. We cought it before the mess was too big, but we had to go outside, in the middle of the night, in a thunderstorm to bail water out of the window well. How Fun!

234 Dubluv

Now I need an excuse to go home. Any ideas?

Awww look - Me & Loppy are stoned together for the first time LOL

Babba

I'd drop you as a friend in a heartbeat if I thought you were getting in the way of my reason for being on this earth, and right now I'm not feeling like I really need comfort and assurance about what is going on.

wow. you got under his skin didn't ya? Did he ever say exactly what his agenda is? Pacing the floor in maddened worry till he wears the carpet out trying to rid the world of is-slum, maybe? Verrry effective, this fellow, wasting his time in a nitting circle( I don't knit, but I do have practice with a Stinger missile though..what an a*shole)

Must be a non-combatant, because every good soldier knows it's healthy to laugh between firefights!
It just goes to show that we shouldn't forget there are nuts on our side as well!

Dubluv

Don't let water stand in your basement, rent a pump or set up a siphon.

Babba- You & Lopps left me out! :(

Lopps- I loved Vicodin when my dentist gave me some. Now you know why Brett Favre got hooked on it!

Babba
Ha! Fire up the Mystery Machine and go get Lopps.

235 Mike C.

I like prezzies! Reports? Not so much!

I hope you get out of Dodge soon...seems like you've been there forevah!

They denied it. Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance. Therefore, it is not happening.

On the other hand, the U.S. Government DOES keep captured space aliens on ice at Area 51, no matter how vehemently they may deny it.

Pax:

[throws hands in the air, makes Whoodaf*ck knows face]

230 LIl ol lady

Mornin! Already done! Loppy's on it now. I will post it on Fridays dead thread, prior to our respective sabbath's..

and I bet you Juden didn't know there where some lil bluehaired southern ladies prayin for y'all this weekend, did ya?

253 BabbaZee

Duuude, I am like so totally stoned.

Too bad I can't eat when the munchies kick in!

PK I cant drive, I'll crash into a tree right now!

Thank you PK-

We have a dehumdefier, but it doesn't work when the power goes out.

Loppy: Milkshakes Ice Cream

errr...what's a basement?

251 W-Lover

That sounds like a suckass night to me. But hey, it could have been worse. Right? Right?

Babba
WHo do I sound like?

I arrived on the floor of my palatial offices this morning to find my staff of top tier Ivy league lawyers were all on antidepressants. So I retired to my mahogany office and and video conferenced with the Tokyo people for a while. For now I condescend to speak with you pathetic people, all of whom I could easily master physically in any confrontation. Later I will drive my powerful automobile to the exclusive Club, of which I am the most distinguished member.

BabbaZee

I'm a very, very OLD mama. (And believe me, with my high-maintenance overly-sensitive and majorly-crabby daughter, I get old exponentially.)

Loppy-

Best excuse for a male boss: severe female troubles.

Pax ~ Darlin' I knew it, thank you...

I was just reading from the top-down, and I went to that " Religious Policeman" site. Is that thing for real?

Man, that guy has got some GUTS, if it is. Written well too. Must ahve been educated in the States of Eurasia? Anyway, it's amazing..hope it's not a spoof site.

OK, who is ready for some breakfast? :) Eggs, bacon, grits( ya'll do eat grits dont'cha? ) and some good ole cat-head biscuits!

LOL! It that's the case, I think I may be exponetially Methusala about now...

Dubluv
You need to regrade around your house, clean or add gutters and put in a sump pump.

# 232 AI

Looks interesting. Here's the 'money quote' off the first page (in my opinion).

There's plenty of money for violating the Constitution, precious little for defending it.

Pardon me while I bookmark it and save it for later perusal. Not a casula procees, since this server is still blocked since Charle's had that stupid DOS attack a while back, forcing me to go through AOL just to get to LGF from here.

# 241 Peacekeeper

Or not.

Morning Serial Defilers of the Koran

Pax

A basement is like a REALLY big root cellar under your house.

=)

Waddaya a redneck or somtin?

LOL

#262 paxnhymn

All prayers - from any corner, as long as they wish us well - are cheerfully accepted. Thanks!

#269 Peacekeeper
J effin K
Teddy "glug glug" the K
Biden baden boden ho ho ho-din and
I'm Screaming at you, white christians
Dean

all of 'em

PK-

It's not my house. It's my landlords house. I won't move into My House until the end of this month. Then I will be sure to take good care of it, and not let water into my basement.

pax-

A basement is where the Gimp lives.

W-lover

If its not your house the landlord needs to get on the stick. Unless your lease says you have to do the work.

(Gets started early, leers at femmes and twirls Snidely Whhiplash mustache)

Cruella
Humor is when you are alone with a corpse, burp and say "excuse me".

Free Speech-

Howard Dean is happy to hear that Christians are being murdered. You know - he hates them and all ...

Then once again Howard Dean's mouth is going to alienate people. It's a good thing.

# 259 loppyd

Well, uh, actually, the objective here is to be on good contracts as long as humanly possible. So you aren't forced to go to someplace definitively worse. Karachi is calling ! As to prezzies, think pearls.

A war is no time to loose your sense of humor.