LOL. I doubt if even one will denounce the attacks.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

Too bloody much.

BTW< Where are those marching moslem millions shouting "Not in my name?" They sure seem all to tready to whine about nonexistent "backlash and racism" though, eh?

April Fools!

""It will have some impact on people. But this is London, a cosmopolitan city," said student Ali Ayubi. "Maybe after one or two months it will go back to normal.""

Hey Ali, if **you** are so stupid as to let thing go back to "normal" then **you** had best not be surprised when either the government or the hooligans start breaking down your doors to ensure the threat will be eradicated -- **you** are not doing enough to eradicate the threat as of this moment -- and you don't even seem to realize you are running out of chances!

/end rant

Almost 1 million of London's 8 million people are Muslims.

Holy dung beetles! Time for some population control.

Had me going there for a minute.
/not

#1 They will denounce...the relatively small number of the dead.

Hope our friends at MI5 were part of their Friday services...

Trust, but Verify...

aww you're mean Charles -- had me going!

Allow me to amend this:

Hundreds of Thousands of Muslims March in London to Denounce Terrorist Attacks Tony Blair for Forcing Them to Resort to Bombing Trains and Busses

Someone rally the punks!

Where are those marching moslem millions shouting "Not in my name?" They sure seem all to tready to whine about nonexistent "backlash and racism" though, eh?

Excellent question. Answer: the Islamic terrorists aren't crippled by an internal enemy like we are by the anti-American Left.

""This morning I was driving to work and a woman on the radio said she'd had her headscarf pulled. I was shocked, to be honest," said Ahmed Shafi, 31, a grocery store manager. "In this day and age you don't expect that.""

Hey, Ahmed, keep acting like Ali up above and, unfortunately, in a few years you may be **begging** for headscarf pulling ...

/end 2nd rant

Good one Charles. You totally got me.

The quiet-life option ensures that attacks go on
By Mark Steyn

Most of us can only speculate at the degree of Islamist penetration in the United Kingdom because we simply don't know, and multicultural pieties require that we keep ourselves in the dark. Massoud Shadjareh, chairman of Britain's Islamic Human Rights Commission, is already "advising Muslims not to travel or go out unless necessary, and is particularly concerned that women should not go out alone in this climate". Thanks to "Islamophobia" and other pseudo-crises, the political class will be under pressure to take refuge in pointless gestures (ie, ID cards) that inconvenience the citizenry and serve only as bureaucratic distractions from the real war effort...

This is the beginning of a long existential struggle, for Britain and the West. It's hard not to be moved by the sight of Londoners calmly going about their business as usual in the face of terrorism. But, if the governing class goes about business as usual, that's not a stiff upper lip but a death wish.

but these terrible events have nothing to do with us.

Dream on.

Oh, cry me a river!

The echoes of the bombs had not died away before the mohammeds were crying about they were victims too.

No mohammeds were killed in the attacks, because of the simple reason that mohammeds do not work and were therefore not on any of the trains or busses carrying workers to work.

Work being a totally alien concept to mohammeds.

Islam is in its death throes. Any decent intelligent Muslim must be seriously considering the validity of his faith, given what it has produced.

Damn, that would be a good April Fools Joke. Too bad this would never happen.

OT,

I don't know if this has been posted. I guess this guy was busted by the FBI for hacking Protest Warrior and is now pleading for help.

"The Muslim Council of Britain said it had been deluged with hate e-mails, which caused its server to crash late Thursday. Though it was up and running Friday, the council said it was still getting a steady stream of vitriolic missives."

Gee, there wouldn't be a reason folks might feel negative towards the MCB, is there?!

#17:... Any decent intelligent Muslim ...

When you find one, do let me know.

Even if they did denounce it, would ya believe them? Seems most talk out of both sides of their mouths at once.

Just kidding indeed. I did see a report in the London Evening Standard wherein a number of middle class young muslim men in well paid jobs pronounced themselves ecstatic over the bombings. Indeed, they expressed the wish to see more bombings in London, similar, or even nuclear. One of them stated that even if such bombings were to kill his own children as a side effect, he would still be ecstatic over the destruction of his enemies (the ones who provide him with freedom to jerk himself off over terrorism against his fellow citizens).

Anyone holding their breath for the million muslim march against terrorism, don't bother. All we'll get is the routine statements from muslim leaders stating that they condemn this...'but'

It's the 'but' that reveals the true evil of this death cult.

They are enabling the attackers.

What I want to know is the translation of that same speech in the mosque. What they say in English is not the same thing they say in Arabic.

Yo, mullahs! Damn these bombers to Hell!
[Link: frankwarner.typepad.com...]

Just kidding.

That's not funny.

(But I can't stop laughing!)

Not all muslims are terrorists,BUT, almost all terrorits ARE muslim!

Until they are fearing their own death from our offensive capabilities (and rightly so) fearing a "backlash" is a fricken joke.

"At this difficult time, some people in our community may feel insecure purely because they are Muslims, but these terrible events have nothing to do with us. The Muslims of London are victims as much as their fellow citizens,"

Victims? What the fuck does that mean?

Exactly, why would you believe them if they did denounce when the koran tells them to subside until they are strong enough to attack again?

24

I read that article too. I posted the link on an earlier topic here. They should be brought in for questioning if that's how they think.

If there are 1 million Muslims out of an 8 million population I would say that London is totally screwed. That would be like having 37.5 million Muslims in the US out of a population of 300million.

Stop immigration from the ME - NOW!

I wonder if the attack on London will cause the Brits to reconsider the pending legislation about "hate" speech critical of Muslims?

I saw that headline and thought "freakin' finally!". But... no.

There are muslims denouncing this latest atrocity. Some are organizations or officials in places like Saudi Occupied Arabia - where it's obvious taqiyya. Others such as the local bloggers in Iraq are sincere.

On topic - What every kufr should know about Islam

Arsonists target UK mosque

LONDON: Suspected arsonists set a mosque in northwest England on fire Saturday, police said. A man living in a flat above the Shahjalal Mosque, which is part of an Islamic centre in Birkenhead, was treated for smoke inhalation but there were no other injuries, police said. The mosque door was burnt and there was some smoke damage inside, Merseyside police said.

Suspected arsonists? Who else might set a building on fire, if not arsonists?
Glad the resident guy is OK, assuming he didn't do it himself. This looks like the work of glue-sniffing skinhead wannabes, throw away the key if they're caught. Besides, it's a waste of perfectly good fuel that could have been used to torch a Moonbat media outlet.

Cartman
That is why the LLL LOVE the moslims so much.
Bagdad Bob is a hero among the American left.

"This morning I was driving to work and a woman on the radio said she'd had her headscarf pulled. I was shocked, to be honest," said Ahmed Shafi, 31, a grocery store manager. "In this day and age you don't expect that."

Hey, we hear ya, buddy. In this day and age we also don't expect to hear about stoning women, beheading hostages, keeping slaves, flogging, killing people becuase they are of a different faith, refusing to let girls attend school, mutilating the genitals of females, killing our daughters because they smiled at the wrong guy, chopping off the hands of thieves, arresting people for possessing a crucifix, etc., etc. Honestly, Ahmed, what is the world coming to?

#33 Bill K.

I wonder if the attack on London will cause the Brits to reconsider the pending legislation about "hate" speech critical of Muslims?

Knowing the present British government, they'll be sure to push it through Parliament double-quick now.

z9z99
...Now hurry up with my Slurpee, dammit!

# 39 z

Wow, that was a **lot** better written than my single snarky comment above!
:-)

#20

I read the what the little POS did. Break in to someone's home (or website), go to jail... plain and simple. It does not matter whether any harm is done.

Put me on the jury, I'll fry the little twerp.

Cry More.

On a brighter note, at least a few Muslims may be waking up to what they need to do as a people, according to this New York Times article.

Like many here, Mr. Abdel Fattah said he was indignant that the bombing could possibly be done in the name of his faith and his community.

Out of a sense of duty, he said, he approached the police on Friday and offered any help they required.

"I wanted to show them that we too believe that what happened was unacceptable," he said. "There are only two directions we can take now. Either we wait and see what's coming, and that can only be bad, or we have to speak out and say unequivocally this is unacceptable. We need to show people what the right example is."

On a darker note, these Muslims are considered so radically liberal by their peers that they can't live in London's "traditional" Muslim neigbourhoods.

#37 Shiplord Kirel

Who else might set a building on fire, if not arsonists?

Work accident?

In a related story, Ollie Willis grew a brain.

/just kidding

#39 z's&9's

Ahmed should be welcomed to the 21st century, but it is a long journey from the 8th...

Waiting for moderate Muslims to denounce radical Muslims for their jihad is like waiting for the Kwiky Mart owner to stop selling cigarettes. They know what they're selling is killing people but the prophets are just to good to pass up.

It would help alleviate the backlash many of them fear though. And at least some have come out and condemned it; which is a good thing.

This morning I was driving to work and a woman on the radio said she'd had her headscarf pulled. I was shocked, to be honest," said Ahmed Shafi, 31, a grocery store manager. "In this day and age you don't expect that."

So let's get this straight... this man's religion, the RoP, is responsible for breeding world wide terrorism which includes but is not limited to: Kidnappings, Bombings, Murder including Beheadings, the desire to see an entire nation Pushed Into the Sea, Slavery, a Fascist Desire for World Domination, Eye for an Eye and Tooth for a Tooth Justice, etc., etc., and he is shocked, shocked I say, that a lady's headscarf was pulled!

JC! What the hell are these people thinking? Or is everything they say and do always about misdirection?

"This morning I was driving to work and a woman on the radio said she'd had her headscarf pulled. I was shocked, to be honest," said Ahmed Shafi, 31, a grocery store manager. "In this day and age you don't expect that."

Oh, the Humanity! Will the persecution never stop!

Then later, another woman on the radio said she had been abducted by aliens. If she said it on the radio, it must be true!

OT, kinda...

I'm of the feeling that the terrorists who struck London are probably British/European. Making that assumption, I've come up with the following theory:

I believe if the terrorists are found to be British/European the section of people who would rather blame the US and UK governments while making excuses for the killers (i.e. - George Galloway) will have a much tougher time selling their bullshit. Everyday people will not be able to accept that assimilated British muslims attacked their fellow British citizens because they were upset about the Iraq/Afghanistan wars. There were PLENTY of people upset about the wars, but they did not kill 50 + of their fellow civilians because of it. I bet if they are British/European they’ll be held to a higher standard of accountability.

Any additional thoughts?

"Taqiyya" must be the acceptable form of lying to "infidels" that muslims do on a regular basis. I guess they lie to the "unholy" people (ie Christians, Buddhists, animists) until they can take us all down. Very deceitful. How can you trust people who are taught to lie for religious gain by their own prophet?

I so wanted to believe that headline. I had just a little swell of hope for a nanosecond. Silly me.

A very carefully orchestrated response: "Oh, we're so afraid." Not hardly. Victimizers are pretending they're the victims.

More disgusting behavior from vermin.

# 54 I

If it truly were to get the desired reaction, I certainly hope you are correct ...

I'd bet my last dollar that if the mooslims were the majority, they'd be singing a different tune. I imagine they would force their shitty law on everyone else without batting an eye.

All of the terrorists and their supporters and financiers are Muslim--all of the Countries that support and encourage terror are Muslim--all of these Muslim terrorists have come from well financed middle class backgrounds free of poverty and with full access to western countries and cultures--all terrorist sleeper cells are composed of Muslims who have fully integrated into western societies and are components of large Muslim communities where incitement of hatred of America and Jews by their Mulas is common---calling them 'Islamic Terrorists' accurately describes these miscreants.

#59 Buckaroo -

I'm of the feeling that if the terrorists are found to be homegrown/British they’ll be held to a higher standard of accountability in the public/media. That would be good news for us in terms of the WOT. We have sections of our society in the Western world that would be sympathetic with the terrorists if they were found to be Iraqi or Afghani, but I don't think the same low expectation standard is going to fly when the attackers are fellow citizens. No way, uh uh.

#57 Iron Fist

When the shit hits the fan, I'm with you. Hope there are enough of us.

Richard Reid's residence (for the rest of his life), in Colorful Colorado

Of course, Richard Reid is a native-born Brit.

Perhaps the UK should consider a similar residence for its local terrorist population?

Robert D.
Hope? Hell!
There's plenty here!
We're just waiting for the de-coder rings to start flashing

#62 Iron Fist

Damn Fist, quit making me think.

67 Robert D 7/9/2005 10:15PM PDT
#62 Iron Fist
Damn Fist, quit making me think.
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Ha. That was my reaction too.

#66 RebTex

Hey! How ya doing? I know enough "redneck loggers" up here to keep them varmits away, but I worry about the city folk...

68 Iron Fist 7/9/2005 10:17PM PDT
#64 Robert D,

At the end of the day, I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees.

And that is really the choice Islam offers us.

And you only get to choose if you are "people of the book." Pagans/polytheists must be killed, just as apostates must (not should, no choices - must) be killed.

#68 Iron Fist

Amen! I would rather die fighting than surender.

We came out of Shabbat to hear how Tony Blair thinks that the "Israeli-Palestinian conflict" contributed to this last attack on London. That was either a sop thrown to his critics on the left or evidence of the penchant of the Europeans to try to solve the world's problems on someone elses expense. I have to say that while I have sympathy for the people who suffered this attack I have much less sympathy for the British society. They have close ties with the Arab world, but obviously not the love or affection of the Arab world. Blaming it on the Jews won't make the situation any better.

Charles, you're just plain mean.

Blair`s speech after the atack was pathetic.
So were the speeches of all the others like Bush,Condoleeza Rice,etc.
Blair should have said"
"This is the end of political correctness,the end of multiculturalism,tolerance,sensitivity,etc...today i declare a state of emmergency in the UK and war against muslim murderers.
It was our mistake to let them in,but we will make sure to correct it soon.
Starting today we are puting a total stop to immigration of any muslim person into the UK.
The murderers are still amongst us,so they have to sleep somewhere,they have to eat halal food,they go to mosques..in other words they come in contact with their fellow muslims in the muslim communities.
We demand that the muslim communities physically deliver the murderers within the next 24 hours,or else,we will start the following actions:
Close down all the mosques in the UK.
Deport a number of 5000 muslims each and every day until the murderers handed over.
Islam is the enemy,the koran is the source of evil indoctrination and if necessary we will outlaw both."

Where are English soccer holligans when you need them?

Thousands of Muslims crowded London mosques for Friday prayers, condemning the bombings, but also wary they could be made scapegoats and fearful of reprisals against their growing and vibrant community.

Pardon me while I vomit.

"Blaming it on the Jews won't make the situation any better."

Of course it won't, but such scapegoating is traditional. From Medieval times through Hitler though the modern anti-Semites of the EU, would Europeans blame themselves for their own failures? Heck no, they'll blame it all on the Jooos.

Arabs angry because they have no civilization or culture to speak of? Frustrated because they painted themselves into a corner by their own actions? They'll blame the Jooos.

It's always been so much easier for both groups to blame the Jooos than to act like men and accept the responsibilities of their own problems.

Hoo-ligans
Hooo-ligans
Hooo-ligans

#77 adela

Good speech!
Here, here!

Go straight-a-way to VDH and read these two excellent essays.

Ron

***

July 8, 2005
The Same Old, Same Old . . .
An anatomy of the London bombing.
by Victor Davis Hanson
National Review Online

The British may react very differently than the Spanish did after Madrid — by doing nothing rather than by retreating from Iraq.

In the corrupt West these days, that is something.

We all know the score of this war now in the near four years since September 11. The London bombings should remind us how the old tired game works.

[...]

Anticipate Western leaders condemning the terrorists in the same breadth as they call for “eliminating poverty” and “bringing them to justice” — as if the jihadists and their patrons are mere wayward and impoverished felons.

In the short term, Bush and Blair will appear as islands in the storm amid an angry and anguished public. But as 7/7 fades, as did 9/11, expect them to become even more unpopular, as the voices of appeasement assure us that if they just go away, maybe so will the terrorists.

It is our task, each of us according to our station, to speak the truth to all these falsehoods, and remember that we did not inherit a wonderful civilization just to lose it to the Dark Ages.

Link Here

***

July 9, 2005
Jihad Is Knocking
Another Episode in the War between Christendom and Islam
by Bruce Thornton
Private Papers

The slaughter in London is another grisly wake-up call that likely will go as unheeded as earlier ones. Already the standard narrative is being trotted out: evildoers created by what the New York Times predictably called the ?root causes of terrorism?: autocracy, or economic stagnation, or Palestinian suffering, or globalization's dislocations, or Western historical sins, or the war in Iraq (the cause will depend on the political prejudices of the pundit) have ?hijacked? Islam and distorted its peaceful message. And now they are using Islam to justify murder in order to further their own ambitions or dysfunctional psychic needs. Given this explanation, so the story goes, we must be careful not to demonize all Muslims and assure them that we respect their religion and culture. The tale is then wrapped up with fierce threats against the terrorists and protestations of admiration for Islam.

[...]

The next few weeks will show whether the British have advanced as far down the road of dhimmitude as have the Spaniards, who responded to the murder of their citizens not with the force and resistance their ancestors showed for seven centuries, but with fear and appeasement. As for us, we'd better discard our illusions that the jihadists, as Thomas Freidman put it, are ?a cancer within the [Islamic] body politic? and accept instead that jihad just may be a vital organ. Then maybe we can see this war for what it is: one more episode in the long struggle between what used to be called Christendom and a religion of aggressive conquest and colonization.

[...]

Link Here

"This should not be singled out as 'Islamic terrorists.' That destabilizes the community."

Abdul Mukith, a 37-year-old supermarket worker in Brick Lane, the heart of London's Bangladeshi community, agreed.

"What's religion got to do with it?" he asked. "I'm bloody Muslim, and I'm afraid to go into the city" just like anyone else in the aftermath of the attacks.

"I'm bloody Muslim" That reporter has some balls! Or don't the Brits get the irony?
Also the "What's religion got to do with it?"
Indeed! Tell us, what?

Someone get me some Superglue, my eyeballs popped clean out of my head when I saw the headline.

I would have liked to have seen the twinkle in Charles' eyes when he thought this baby up.

Keep it up Charles...don't lose the humor or the cool surf pics. (however, could you show some decent waves? head high would be acceptable)

So, the Muslim reaction to the bombing in London is to feel sorry for THEMSELVES (Muslims) rather than caring one whit about those whose lives have been destroyed.

All over the Arab/Muslim world, the sentiments are about how these bombings won't help them.

Nothing about how mass murder is IMMORAL and BARBARIC.

This is who we're up against.

"Many Muslims are British. They have lived here for years. What happens to London happens to them," said Suraiya Zammath, a Bangladeshi woman visiting relatives in London. "This should not be singled out as 'Islamic terrorists.' That destabilizes the community."

Boo f*cking hoo. If the shoe fits, bitch, then wear it.

It sure as hell wasn't a legion of Barney impersonators.

#86 rightasrain

How right you are. Suicide bombers were serially described by the bbc as'militants' whikst they were blowing up Jewish children in Israel. Having perfected the technique they have now brought it to a bus near you in London, although it's 'terrorism' now. At least, it's 'terrorism' until the bbc can work out a reason why the quest of the Jewish People to live in a pint sized state from where it was ejected 200 years ago has now unhinged peace loving jihadists.

It is a time honoured technique for nazi arabs and muslims to claim vitimhood after the results of hteir evil beliefs have become apparent as this week in London. They are not as innocent as animals, and I respect the animal kingdom more than I will ever respect muslims and arabs, but they know just how to fool teir enemies by playing dead.

I suggest that they should be allowed to play at being deported to live in the islamic socieites they so love and wiish to impose on civilised man. They are as worthy to civilised humanity as malaria is to equatirial Africa.

#86 rightasrain

"from where it was ejected 200 years ago"

...should of course be 2000 years ago

#85 surfer dude

Decent waves? In Redondo Beach?

You're kidding, right?

To get decent waves anywhere between Pt. Conception and San Diego takes a frickin' tropical storm or better off the coast of Baja.

Closest thing to that I've seen is Dennis the Menace, now on its way to visit lovely Louisiana and Mississippi. Hope all you lizardoids in the path of that little puppy are safe and dry.

I think we should show Islam the same care and tolerance that Christianity and Judaism receive in Riyadh. We should mirror Saudi policy exactly.

We could always recycle all those shredded Korans into kindling for home BBQs... :)

#90 steffan

I hear the pigkorans make useful asspaper and come in a convenient size tear out pack. really messy wipes are best dealt with using pages mentioning pigmohammed because he was also full of shit.

"It will have some impact on people. But this is London, a cosmopolitan city," said student Ali Ayubi. "Maybe after one or two months it will go back to normal."

Wish he could say the same for Baghdad after a bombing.

#91 transferthem

No, that's not enough.

First, you make them watch as you shred their holy books. That's what they do to Bibles in Riyadh, right?

Of course, after that is when we get creative. Some of the resulting shreds we use in our BBQs, also as kindling in fireplaces. We could even process it into fake fireplace logs like they do with recycled newsprint.

Some of it we can market as cat litter.

We should make a big point of using large quantities of it as bedding for livestock, specifically pigs. Better than straw any day of the week. :)

Would that drive them nuts?

I certainly hope so.

"What's religion got to do with it?" he asked.

Might want to ask one of your brothers...

Prior to seeing the group at the fastfood restaurant, Sayful meets me at his semi-detached rented home in Bury Park, Luton's Muslim neighbourhood. He no longer works, even though he is able-bodied, he admits, preferring instead to claim housing benefit and jobseeker's allowance. He smiles sheepishly and says the irony is not lost on him that the British state is supporting him financially, even as he plots to "overthrow it".

"I made a decision that I wanted to follow what Islam really said," Sayful begins, sitting on his sofa in his thowb (a traditional robe) and bare feet. "I went to listen to all the local imams, but I found their portrayal of Islam was too secularised. When I heard Sheikh Omar [the leader] of al-Muhajiroun speak, it was pure Islam, with no compromise. I found that appealing.

Seems like Osama spawned a new site... Not exactly the type he had in mind though..

This is my favourite so far.

[Link: werenotafraid.com...]

site: [Link: www.werenotafraid.com...]

#62 IF

Let me be the first to say it. Islam should be illegal in the United States.

This is so wrong on so many levels. I enjoyed LGF even with some extremists. After Thursday I realized LGF commenters and I don't really think alike at all.
It was fun.

#96 Iowaandslow

Sorry to hear that. I enjoy reading you when I catch it. I think there are lots of different views here and would hope that the explosion of anger over the last couple of days would preclude anyone from expressing their opinion here.

Once you recognize those people who you cannot agree with, you could always just pass over their comments- unless you want to engage them, of course.

Reconsider your decision.

On Monday (tomorrow) British MPs debate a Bill, demanded by Muslims, to outlaw freedom of expression about religion. It will effectively mean that anyone, including bona fide theologians and ministers of religion, who make a comment that a member of another religion takes umbrage at will be liable to prosecution. There's a big case in Australia at present, two Islamic agitators intent on being offended having purposely attended a lecture given by Christian clergymen - and the clegymen were duly hauled up before the law. The same madness is about to happen in the good ole UK. Unless, of course, commonsense prevails in Parliament tomorrow. Which. given the present state of the madhouse once deservingly known as Great Britain, I doubt will happen. "Britons never, never, never shall be slaves!" So run the words to "Rule Britannia". An ironic thought for this 200th anniversary of Trafalgar.

#97 gonzo
Thanks for the kind words.

Of the many comments by pundits and the general public about this atrocity that have been aired in London over the past couple of days, the words of a young black guy were among the most eloquent. He said, simply: "If the God of those who did this needs this kind of help to achieve his aims then they sure are worshipping the wrong God".

#98 spitfire

you are absolutely correct. This vote is a litmus test for the resolve of the west to fight 'terror'. Islam is terror. The war being fought is s defensive war by the west against islamic aggression. The coming vote is part of the islamofascists' war - if they deny their victims the right to speak out against the aggresor, they are halfway to winning. Will the British Parliament bow to their wishes, or will it fight them and ultimately defeat them?

This is a seminal moment.

A London protest of a different kind has been organized:

This protest is being set up by a group of ordinary, concerned citizen bloggers from across the political lines.

We are unaffiliated with any political group - including the Stop the War Coalition, which is also planning a demonstration.

Our message is simple: two fingers to the terrorists, support for their victims, and to underline London's defiance.

Good luck to them!

#96 lowandslow

There is a good rational reason to ban the RoPMA.

ANY philosophy should be outlawed that MANDATES the murder of apostates. YOUR murder IS mandated because you were born a muslim, so states the the koran. People don't convert to the RoPMA, they REVERT. Check it out for yourself.

At least some of the silent Muslims might fear the consequences of getting out of line.

Why should anyone expect them to take the risk of speaking against Islamist Jihad when George Walker Bush and Anthony Blair have yet to admit that it exists?

"Maybe after one or two months it will go back to normal."

WTF ? ! ?

Normal is, IMHO, a fight to the death between the West and radical islam, meaning islam in any form recognizable today.

Do we want to survive?

Well?

when I saw this headline, i spit orange mountain dew all over my monitor. Then I saw "just kidding". You had me going there charles.

Charles! When I saw that title this morning I was shocked...then I saw the rider..."just kidding". Whatta guy!

#96 lowandslow
Lets get serious. How many bombing by muslims will it take for you to get angry? 1000? 10000? Some of us are fed up with the way the entire west coddles anyone that hates us. The frigging muslims would love to see your white ass lying headless in the fucking street. I cannot comprehend why the entire civilized world isnt sick to fucking death of all this p.c. horseshit yet. My sense of decorum about being branded a racist or nazi disappeared on 9-11. Those words are the tools the liberals have used to twist society to the shape its in now. People are scared to death of being called racist. I dont give a fuck. Their religion is a political doctrine first, then a religion second. Any other doctrine calling for people to bomb innocents would be hunted down by the government, but not good ole' islam. Too many brown people to touch that one. white guilt is a bitch. Look how long it took for Bill Clintons government to murder the branch dividians. If they were a darker shade of color,or foreigners, theyd still be holed up in waco. Call me a bigot all you want, but the truth is a bitter fucking pill to swallow sometimes. None of this matters,though. Some people will be p.c. even when one of muhammeds boys are sticking a knife in their gut. I wont.

sorry for the cuss words btw. Ive had a long night.

islam should be illegal in the whole world.

It is a false religion.

God needs suicide bombers?

No shit?

# 97 gonzo:

[lowandslow], reconsider your decision.

Why? Iron Fist gave an opinion on what to do. 'lowandslow' is offended by a suggested action, but offers none in response. Sounds a lot like Oliver Willis and other liberal nutcases blaming Bush and the WoT for terror. If 'lowandslow' is unhappy with the helpful direction of IronFist's comment, with which I agree (how in God's name can islam claim to be a 501(c)(3) charitable org? Just because it is a 'religion'?), then 'lowandslow' should offer up some concrete solutions of his/her own. We are at war with a religion that inculcates jihad as a normal reaction to every single thing that goes wrong to every muslim on any given day. Forgot the umbrella and it rained? Blame Bush, and blow something up, preferably the Zionists who seeded the clouds, but, hey, a Ford dealership or a local grade school would work, too. Muslims have not shown me anything near resembling a committment to fight terror here in the States, except whining and seething about their lot in life and the 'discrimination' and 'hate crimes' they painfully endure. I'm sick and tired of criticism of ideas without any counter-ideas being brought up. So 'lowandslow', what are your suggestions for dealing with the muslim hoardes at our gates, and the muslims who manage to get inside, past the gates? Do you trust muslims? Would you go into business with them? Let your daughter date them? Have them over for a barbeque? Meet them at the bar after work for a drink? If not, what are you going to do about it? Take sensitivity training or small arms training?

I wonder whether the BBC will continue to feature its usual ten-a-penny sob stories about Muslim fear of reprisals in the light of these events. The BBC loves Muslims for some strange reason - strange, given the fact that Muslims oppress women and most of the liberal positions the BBC holds dear. As for the BBC calling Muslim terror against Israelis by its true name, the day it ceases to whitewash them as militants will be the day Hell freezes over.

#101 transferthem

You are right, it is a seminal moment - and we will fail. The ruling elite will not allow even the merest criticism of Islam, and have been falling over themselves to push the 'religion of peace' propaganda over the last few days. Once the legislation is passed it will ensure that the UK will never have a Hirsi Ali or Geert Wilders to try and talk some sense into our BBC-lobotomized heads, and a major obstacle on the road to Shariah will have been removed.

Here's the words I want to hear from my president:

While the United States of America represent the dream of many oppressed peoples across this planet, and while our own decency allows those who are persecuted who arrive on our shores a certain amnesty from terror and hardship...

It must be noted that the singular lack of opposition by the Muslim populations of the United States to those particular acts of terror that have been committed by members of their faith has not gone unnoticed.

Therefore, within my powers as the person most responsible for the security of all persons residing in these collective States, and as Commander in Chief of our armed forces, I reluctantly declare the following:

That upon the next terror attack committed upon our shores by Muslim extremist elements, I will be forced by circumstances and duty to declare that all Muslims in our great country, whether citizens or simply immigrants residing within our borders, shall be subject to deportation, with no possibility of return.

I grieve at the announcement of this policy, but the lesson is clear. Either by apathy or by coercion, Muslims in this country have not publicly condemned these atrocities in sufficient numbers to convince me that they are sincere about their dedication to the principles as set forth in the Constitution of the United States of America.

It is with this deep regret that I will expell ALL Muslims, whether citizens or not, from our shores upon the next attack of terror on our great country.

I regret the necessity of this action, and my statement announcing this decision. But my responsibility is toward those persons who love this country, not toward those who view citizenship or residency as an entitlement.

Everyone understands by now the necessity of this action. This situation has been created by the enemies of this country, not those who love this country. I have no more statements at this time.

# 109 The Drizzle:

sorry for the cuss words btw. Ive had a long night.

Don't be. It's been almost four long years for me, and I'm sick and tired of the multi-culti PC BS that has cropped up all over the place. RoP? My ass! Then again, my "Gives a Shit" meter has been irreparably broken since a certain beautiful September Tuesday morning.

#97 RickZ

Why? Because, like I said, I find some of his/her stuff entertaining.
Disagreements between posters here happens all the time. I just don't think that is a good reason to bail out of the comment pool.

Illegalization of Islam would be impossible to enforce anyway, and as such isn't really a realistic option any more than nuking Mecca is- no matter how much people would like to see that.

No. 114: RGBDJ

I would like to hear that too.

frontpagemag.com has an article about who is being recruited by al qaeda [in the u.k]. now take a couple of minutes to fondly remember the last presidential campaign. the two americas. the tax breaks for the rich. if al qaeda is recruiting from the disconnected, which american political party could have the most recruitment potential. if we could run one long film clip with all their [class warfare] talking points. the only thing missing from kerrys' campaign would be a pitchfork and lantern. someone who was too busy skipping school and can barely write or read is being deprived of the benefits others have worked for.

peggie

Amen.

# 116 gonzo:

Illegalization of Islam would be impossible to enforce anyway, and as such isn't really a realistic option any more than nuking Mecca is- no matter how much people would like to see that.

So, taking options off the table is okay with you. To me, all options are on the table, as they should be, including pulverizing the Black Rock of Mecca in retaliation for the next terror attack in the States. Firmness and resolve or weakness and dhimmitude. Those are the choices we Infidels collectively face. If I'm wrong, show me where I am, and tell me how to go about fixing the jihadi menace once and for all, in in your opinion, of course.

#120 RickZ

Brother, if I had the answers I sure would be putting them to better use than here.

As far as tableing the option of illegalizing Islam, well, I think that unless you alter the constitution that one would be tough to make happen. So from that respect, I would have to say yes, I would be o.k. with tableing that option.

Now, if we could get Islam defined as a form of socio-political government; well, there is a better chance of that oulawing it occurring.

As far as nukes- I think we have the capability to remove the command and control of any of the Middle Eastern governments using conventional weapons and without resorting to wiping out entire cities and their populations. So I would have to vote no to that option to.

All options do start on the table and are considered, but some do get removed.

Reports of a leak of a secret document in Britain, one that reports that they are thinking of reducing their trooping levels in Iraq from 8500 to 3000.

The left there just never ever give up.

No. 120, 116: Rick Z and Gonzo -

It's gotta be, IMHO, that we have nukes aimed at the black rock right now. Otherwise, why did those anthrax attacks stop? And anyway, in the real world, all the options are on the table all the time. Only the naieve think otherwise.

Where do I begin in Fisking this crap puff piece by teh A.P.

1. Muslims a "vibrant community"? Give me a fucking break!
2. "Muslims have long been part of London's glamour and its grit." How anyone can use the term "glamour" when describing these primtive behaving and nanny goat looking terror supporters is beyond me. Too much editorializing in this article.

#123 Ojoe

Color me naive, I guess.

Do you have some links about the anthrax? That story dropped of the radar like a rock and I never really looked for more information on it.

I'm the last one who wants to see reprisals against innocent Muslims, but boy these people sure do seem to be living up to the whining, blaming Muslim stereotype.

Imagine if Christians bombed Mecca, and what average Saudis would be doing to innocent Christians this morning. It wouldn't be hate email, my friends.

# 121 gonzo:

As far as nukes- I think we have the capability to remove the command and control of any of the Middle Eastern governments using conventional weapons and without resorting to wiping out entire cities and their populations. So I would have to vote no to that option to.

So, in tying our hands behind our backs, what do you suggest as a response scenario if/when a dirty bomb or Iranian nuke hits the US? At that point, JDAMs and cruise missiles would be grossly ineffective. What I'm saying is that no option can be removed because we have seen the callous disregard in which the jihadis hold us Infidels. Removing options will only further embolden the jihadis in their assymetrical war against us. War is a terrible thing, but losing this war is not a viable option. As such, anything and everything we have to do to win this damn thing has to be made known to those who seek our literal destruction. Including making it plain to our muslim population that our collective patience with their claptrap is wearing dangerously thin. Too many think internment camps are a thing of the past. But it will only take a spectacular display by the jihadis to make average Americans come to this sad, but necessary, conclusion, especially considering the resounding silence we now hear from them when it comes to terror. And that day is approaching faster than many would like to think it has. Our survival will demand such harsh actions. And at this point, I just don't give a shit about hurt feelings or 'hate crimes'. The real crime is why we allow such hateful people into our country in the first place.

No. 125 gonzo: This might link to anthrax info. (It is a long address).

[Link: www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil...]

Does that work?

Well that link is too old. sorry.

Current report is that Anthony Blair has blamed the attacks on "the Israel-Palestine problem". Since to him only Israel is the problem . . .

If this report is accurate, Blair has just enrolled himself on the list of history's losers that begins with a Pharaoh who also thought his problems were caused by the Children of Israel.

a Bangladeshi woman visiting relatives in London. "This should not be singled out as 'Islamic terrorists.'

Druids perhaps?

Still, some feared a backlash. The Muslim Council of Britain said it had been deluged with hate e-mails, which caused its server to crash late Thursday. Though it was up and running Friday, the council said it was still getting a steady stream of vitriolic missives.

Of course - this is just another excuse to bash moslems.

You see this whole "war on terror" thingy is really just a ploy to abuse moslems around the world. We backward westerners are just trying to rip off thier technology and medicine and art and culture and respect for other religions, and sensitivity and charitable outreach. We are nothing but parasites to the arab world. In short we're jealous.

/the moderate moslem

Brilliant entry, Charles.

Oh, poo!

The headline was "above the fold." The caffeine not yet having arrived at my brain, I felt a surge of incredulous hope.

Then I scrolled down.

#127 RickZ

I don't buy the argument that not releasing Nuclear weapons does much to tie our hands behind our backs in dealing with these countries

Were the act done by the Iranian government, then yes, we would declare war and wipe them out, using tactical nukes if necessary, I'm sure.

I have no doubt that Islam enables terrorism and agree with the concern about future horrors. There are simply alot of options to consider in addition to the two we're discussing now.

And I also agree that Iran and Saudi Arabia are the root of the evil. Given that they (the Saudis) would have been overrun by the bungling Saddam without US protection, I don't see the need to use nukes against them. Hell, once the King dies they may descend into civil war anyway.

Given that there are anywhere from 2.8 to 4 million muslims in the US, the internment option would be a logistical nightmare. But it is an option which I would seriously consider implementing.

#128 Ojoe

I can get to the search engine on the home page and go from there. Thanks.

#1 - Malleus Dei
LOL. I doubt if even one will denounce the attacks.

“Our faith of Islam calls upon us to be upholders of justice. The day after London was bloodied by terrorists finds us determined to help secure this justice for the innocent victims of yesterday’s carnage. The terrorists may have thought they could divide us and make us panic. It is our hope that we will all prove them conclusively wrong”

- The Muslim Council of Britain

#17 - whiterasta
No mohammeds were killed in the attacks, because of the simple reason that mohammeds do not work and were therefore not on any of the trains or busses carrying workers to work.

Work being a totally alien concept to mohammeds.

Ahahahahaha. Hilarious! You're just tooo funnny!
Ahahahaha now seriously, grow up.

#30 - Cartman:
Victims? What the fuck does that mean?

Pray for all the missing

Many of the missing are Muslims, it was an attack on London, not "infidels". And as Muslims live in London, they too are murdered.

#108 - The Drizle
My sense of decorum about being branded a racist or nazi disappeared on 9-11. Those words are the tools the liberals have used to twist society to the shape its in now.

LGF posters do it all the time. If you so much as believe in a two-state solution for Israel and Palestine you're a 'Jooo' hating Nazi, who wants to see Israel wiped off the map and 'Jooos' wiped off the Earth.

I've been around London since the attack, and I have noticed no change in the number and quality of Muslims milling around. Even today I saw your typical muslim family at the supermarket: father & sons dressing in Western style; mother & daughter wearinh hojab & jilbab. Truth to be told, sometimes you can see also males in their traditional garb.

Islam = Cowards. Just like their friends the leftist apologists.

I see the BBC News in line website is bignoting the fact that Muslims atr attending a rally in London denouncing the outrages. No surprises that they are attending a rally addressed by such wretches as George Galloway and Jeremy Corbyn, anti-Israel, anti-American MPs, and that they are blaming the war on Iraq for the atrocities in London.

#136 English Idiot.

LGF posters do it all the time. If you so much as believe in a two-state solution for Israel and Palestine you're a 'Jooo' hating Nazi, who wants to see Israel wiped off the map and 'Jooos' wiped off the Earth.

wrong.

It is the Palestinians themselves who Do NOT WANT A TWO STATE solution. The death cult society that is "Palestine" only want to see the deadly end of Israel by any means necessary including strapping bombs to their own children and teaching nothing but hate. why is it that the Palestinian society is so backward and filled with hate? Why can't they focus and start fashioning a real society based on good will, free trade and democracy?

I very much want a Palestinian State for the precious death cultist Palestinians. that way, when they eventually give in once again to their hatred and blood lust and harm
one hair on one Jew - we can have the official right to blow them off the planet.

Not PC enough for you? then piss off.

From the FBI hate crime statistics:

2000:

Bias Motivation
Incidents Offenses Victims

Anti-Islamic 28 33 36

2001

Anti-Islamic 481 546 554

2002

Anti-Islamic 155 170 174

From the 2001 Report Foreward:

Another noticeable increase in 2001 was among religious-bias incidents. Anti-Islamic religion
incidents were previously the second least reported, but in 2001, they became the second highest reported
among religious-bias incidents (anti-Jewish religion incidents were the highest), growing by more than 1,600
percent over the 2000 volume. In 2001, reported data showed there were 481 incidents made up of 546
offenses having 554 victims of crimes motivated by bias toward the Islamic religion.

It would appear that anti-Isdlam crimes might increase, but there is still less likelihood of being victimized for being Muslim than for being Jewish.

I just came back to LGF this morning and saw that thread title and went "What? No way! This is incredible!" You really had me going there Charles. But I was disappointed yet again…

I really don't want to think the worst of people, but… they're not helping themselves.

#37
"Suspected arsonists? Who else might set a building on fire, if not arsonists?"

They did it themselves. This is how these bastards operate. If God is in today He should send every last one of them to a fire pit of pain.
There are no moderate muslims. There is no easter bunny and there is no such thing as a moral islamist. These are not compatable ideas. If they can't bring themselves to fit in where they come to live-they should be thrown out. You cannot trust them.
They want to kill you because you don't subscribe to their religion.
We have to face up to the fact that these are not only "not nice People" There is some question as to whether they should be regarded as people at all.

English Liberal

"Many of the missing are Muslims, it was an attack on London, not "infidels". And as Muslims live in London, they too are murdered."

Considering muslims now make up nearly 10% of the entire population of London, and considering where the major rail junctions are, King Cross, Liverpool Street, areas of high muslem concentrations,
it's hard to see how there wouldn't be muslim casaulties.

Muslims killed in the name of Jihad, are considered an acceptable loss. That’s why cars laden with explosives can be driven into crowded markets in Baghdad. Just martyrs in greater goal of doing jihad.

It was an attack on London.
It was an attack on Britain.
It was an attack on the west.
It was an attack on a Crusader nation (their words).
And yes it was an attack against Infidels.

#108 the Drizzle.

Great rant. I totally agree.

Look how long it took for Bill Clintons government to murder the branch dividians. If they were a darker shade of color,or foreigners, theyd still be holed up in waco.

Exactly. Fine and dandy for Clinton's precious Reno to burn white christians to death. No problem there.
(Also fine and dandy to send a poor little boy whose mother lost her life trying to free him from miserable communism - back to hell. It made the precious Clinton administration feel better.

#147 Iron Fist, if jihad is islam and islam is jihad?

They're are some progressives starting to claim that some of the London bombers were natural citizens of GB; just some homegrown terrorists with nothing to do with the great and major religion of peace.

P.S. islam is not a religion nor is it compatible with the Constitution.

Every mosque is a military outpost. Why was MI5 beaten? Because they forced themselves not to look.

#147 Iron Fist

Completely outlawing Islam is Constitutionally unaccepable

Yes,however,there is precedent.

How far would someone get(in the USA) if they tried to open a church to the Hindu god Kali(resurrecting Thuggee) or a true church of satanism or any number of other death cults?

There are things that the constitution protects but that the people just will not tolerate.

Good morning boys and girls, are you ready to take the pledge? Alright then, repeat after me . . .

I [state your name] will never use my left hand as toilet paper!

/better dead than dhimmi

I was listening to Ibrahim Hooper (?) of CAIR last night on a rerun talk show bloviating about how this had nothing to do with religion, etc, etc. What a piece of work he is.

Oh, also. Hooper was saying that if you investigate most of these reports of Islamics rejoicing about the destruction and killing that it turns out not to be true! Wow.

"Denounce" means "celebrate" in Arabic.

AHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAAA!

Ah man, that's bad.

The thread should be...

"'Hundreds of Thousands of Muslims March in London to Denounce Terrorist Attacks, then meet at mosques to plan more."

What a gem of comments from Tony Blair --
Prime Minister Tony Blair stressed that Islam was not the culprit in the bombings."We know that these people act in the name of Islam, but we also know that the vast and overwhelming majority of Muslims, here and abroad, are decent and law-abiding people who abhor this act of terrorism every bit as much as we do," he said Thursday.
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#157 kvinay, yes. Because of these kinds of statements I want our troops brought home immediately. Ted Kennedy wins.

We should prepare for nuclear cleanup in our cities. It is going to happen. And we still won't fight. I thought the US would be different but I now include it with all civilizations that come and go.

108 rickz: [Do you trust muslims? Would you go into business with them? Let your daughter date them? Have them over for a barbeque? Meet them at the bar after work for a drink? If not, what are you going to do about it? Take sensitivity training or small arms training? ]

lowandslow cannot do these things you ask, why
1. muslims are forbiden to do business or interact w/ non muslims.
2. Muslims are not allowed to date non-muslims
3. muslims are forbidden alcohol and therefore would not go to the bar or probably the bar-b-que also the bar-b-que might be considered a party or celebration also which muslims aren't allowed to do.

I know that preaching to the choir is what occurs in the blogosphere. Just maybe some Muslims wander into LGF from time to time. So for them I'm repeating a post I actually made twice yesrterday before Charles came in with is latest headline. His link:

At the East London Mosque, near the site of one of Thursday's attacks, an imam told the 8,000 worshippers to be "confident in our identity" as part of London's multicultural fabric.

In most cultures or religions, the good people do not tolerate that the bad apples among them allow their entire society to be spoiled. They discard them as quickly as possible. That Islam is being spoiled is a result of silence and complacency among Muslims. Are they so afraid? Perhaps. They worry about stereotypical guilt and repercussion through association, yet do nothing.

They should take a lesson from those Iraqis who risked their lives to vote. Who risk their lives to defend their country from the murderous Islamfacist thugs. These thugs know that the example being set in Iraq does not bode well for them in the rest of the Islam world. It is perhaps for this reason, Iraq is considered the front line in the war on Islamic terrorists.

IVV

Revolution is good. I've just finished reading a biography of John Brown the abolitionist. One would be startled by the seemingly transparent parallels between the 1850s and today: Americans enslaved by their government (we existentially via progressive taxation and political correctness rather than physically), an aggressive and expansionistic enemy (Pro-slavery idealogues then, Islam today), a ruling political class that was both corrupt and pusillanimous, and a growning resentment by average Americans against their immoral and unresponsive government. Brown became radicalized after the Kansas-Nebraska Act and the Supreme Court ruling in favor of "slave re-acquisition" in the Dred Scott Case. Similarly we are also reaching a watershed moment in American and Western society. Our political savants are unwilling and incapable of controlling immigration, combatting Islam and protecting their respective constituents. As Britain, and America, stagger into the abyss with legal restrictions placed against those who would say "slanderous" statements against the "blessed" Prophet and Islam, it will be increasingly left to the individual to fight Islam, protect the innocent and save freedom and democracy. Our politicians are tools.

A good (for a change) piece by Friedman on what "moderate" Muslims need to do:

Linky

Waaah! I thought these brave holy warriors had no qualms about meeting their 72 raisins. Why are they so worried about a "backlash"? And why does the AP refer to their community as "growing and vibrant"?

their growing and vibrant community.

Eventually growing so large as to become Arabritain, we hope.

/jihadispeak.