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Rockets Fired at US Warships in Jordan

Fri, Aug 19, 2005 at 8:42:48 am PDT

Rockets narrowly miss U.S. ships in Jordan.

AMMAN (Reuters) - Rockets were fired at two U.S. warships in Jordan’s Red Sea Aqaba port on Friday, but missed their targets and killed a Jordanian soldier on land.

The three Katyusha missiles instead landed on a warehouse, a hospital and the neighboring Israeli port of Eilat.

A Jordanian security source said authorities were searching for three men after the attack, which was launched from an industrial warehouse area.

“We are searching for a Syrian and two Iraqis who are in Aqaba and used Kuwaiti (car) number plates,” the source said. Another source said the warehouse from which the rockets were launched had been leased a few days ago by three Iraqis and an Egyptian.

A group claiming links to al Qaeda, the Abdullah al-Azzam Brigades of the al Qaeda Organization in the Levant and Egypt, said in a statement it had carried out the attack.

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1 Dov (In the Astrodome City) Republic of Texas  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 6:43:52am

But they missed

2 locutus  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 6:44:05am

"...brings a knife to a gunfight.."

3 pointed stick  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 6:44:24am

can we now declare war on jordan and allow israel to expand it's eastern border?

4 amir  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 6:45:29am

#3

Expanding its eastern border (south of Ashkelon) worked so well.

5 BIG  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 6:45:34am

I hope that the United States carefully considers the ramnifications of retaliation and the possible derailment of peace should they act.

Oops, I'm sorry. That is only reserved for Israel when she is attacked.

6 zulubaby  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 6:47:20am

Don't you just love the passive voice? That headline has been changed from "attackers" to "rockets". G-d forbid they should name the savages that did this. Oh how I loathe the media.

7 selpaw  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 6:47:49am

...and it narrowly missed hitting human lives on the street next to the airport in Eilat but hey, nothing compared to a ship.

8 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 6:49:19am
A Jordanian security source said authorities were searching for three men after the attack, which was launched from an industrial warehouse area.

The same source then went on to say this task may be difficult, as it violates Jordan's policy as a terrorist breeding ground and haven.

9 efuseakay  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 6:49:35am

The Good Mr. Spencer said it well... don't worry, these were "moderate rockets from Jordan" (paraphrased).

10 Bilgeman  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 6:49:41am

Nice shootin', Tex!

You missed an LPD(!)...and killed some poor slob of a Jordanian soldier guarding a warehouse.

Now, if you'd be so kind as to sit there while that for'ard deck gun traverses to shoot back, our gallant Gunner's Mates will teach you some basic marksmanship.

We could, if you prefer, deploy the Marines to come by and help you out with your "boresight".

I'm sure the Leathernecks could do with some shore leave.

Regards;

11 TalkinKamel  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 6:49:45am

A Syrian and two Iraqis, in Jordan, using a Kuwaiti license plate, and, apparently, missiles leased (LEASED? THEY LEASE OUT WMD'S OVER THERE?)by three Iraqis and an Egyptian.

But of course, as the Left has assured us repeatedly, terrorists from different nations never work together. Secular Islamic governments never support fundamentalist ones, there is no coordinated terrorist network, all we need to do is catch Bin Ladin, and the war on terror will be over. Oh yes, and end the Israeli occupation too.

/Hmmm, kinda makes me think of a joke, you know; "Three Moonbats, three Iraqis, a Jordanian and an Egyptian walk into a bar. . .

12 TMF  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 6:49:59am

Perhaps a few tomahawks need to "narrowly" miss a mosque or two in Amman?

13 TalkinKamel  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 6:50:32am

#6 Zulubaby

The media is the enemy.

14 BIG  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 6:50:42am

The Palestinians murdered three American envoys and they got $3 billion for their efforts. Can you blame the Jordainians for trying the same thing?

15 pointed stick  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 6:50:52am

#4 amir
forgive my apparent ignorance, but isn't ashkelon located to the west? or is jordan not located to the east of israel?

16 TMF  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 6:51:14am

I kid, I kid.

I think his holiness more or less has a lid on the wackos in his country and plays ball when needed.

17 legalbgl  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 6:52:14am

Under Clinton policy following the attack on the USS Cole, if the rockets had hit the warships, that would not constitute an act of war.

18 dataman0  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 6:53:02am

Too bad the Wisconsin is in mothballs right now. Now that is one ship that would have a presence.

19 Kragar (Proud to be kafir)  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 6:53:35am

11 TalkinKamel

apparently, missiles leased (LEASED? THEY LEASE OUT WMD'S OVER THERE?)

Read it again:

the warehouse from which the rockets were launched had been leased

The warehouse was leased.

20 TalkinKamel  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 6:53:53am

Speaking of the enemy MSM---be prepared for a spate of articles reassuring us that Jordan is, it really, really, REALLY is, a moderate Moslem country, and we must never think otherwise, no, no. . .

Said articles to be accompanied by lots of pictures of Jordan's photogenic queen (Noor-something) flashing her big white horse teeth at the camera.

21 cba  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 6:54:03am

selpaw, I think most people don't realise that the Eilat airport (which is tiny) is in the middle of the city. Freaks me out to think I was just there a few weeks ago.

What do you hear from your daughter? She must be pretty shaken up by it.

22 zulubaby  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 6:54:05am

BIG,

The Palestinians murdered three American envoys and they got $3 billion for their efforts.

I was going to post that in response to your #5 but you got it.

23 Black George Bush  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 6:54:18am

#17 legalbgl
Yeah, John Kerry would have just issued arrest warrants, as not to violate the terrorists civil rights.

24 amir  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 6:54:21am

#15

My bad.
#4 should read western border.

25 Oldprof  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 6:54:42am

Totally OT!

I have heard the Arie Sharon was the model for Ari BenCanaan in the novel (and movie) Exodus. Can anyone confirm or deny that - Funny he doesnt look at all kile Paul Newman

26 heliotrope  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 6:55:23am
DUBAI (Reuters) - A group claiming links to al Qaeda said on Friday it had fired rockets at a U.S. Navy ships in Jordan and an Israeli port, according to an Internet statement.

The statement, which could not be authenticated, was signed by the Abdullah al-Azzam Brigades of the al Qaeda Organization in the Levant and Egypt.

It was carried on an Islamist Web site not often used by other groups which say they are linked to Osama bin Laden's network.

"A group of our mujahideen have targeted U.S. vessels in Jordan and (Israel's) Eilat port with three Katyusha rockets before safely returning to their base," the statement said.

"Zionists are a legitimate target and we warn the Americans, who are spreading their corruption throughout the world and who have stolen the wealth of the Muslim nation, to expect even more stinging attacks.

"This is our debut operation in Jordan," it added. "And as we have begun to destroy the throne of the Egyptian tyrant, we warn the Jordanian tyrant to release our jailed brothers and voluntarily abdicate before we force you to go."

27 Bruiser  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 6:55:37am

We should push for a strongly-worded letter by the UN High Commission For The Peaceful Advancement of Rocketstan and the Destruction of Zionist Pigs Named Israel and thr United States of America.

I mean, what if those rockets have families? Think of the children!

28 Murqtaad  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 6:55:50am

Luckily these fools cant aim... kinda like a gang member holding his gun sideways (cause it looks coool).

29 TalkinKamel  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 6:56:05am

#19 Krager

Whew! That's a relief! (Though not much.)

/And, of course, one wonders, where did they get the missiles from? Of course there were no WMD'S in Iraq---or Syria---or Iran---and of course, the Islamofacist groups in these countries never cooperate with each other, of course, of course, of course. . . )

30 legalbgl  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 6:56:34am

#23 Black George Bush

No he would have testified in congress on how oppressed they were and how we are provoking the situation by being there, etc., etc.

31 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 6:56:46am

There's something seriously wrong with the response here, which mimics earlier failures to respond to international terrorist attacks on US interests.

This was an attack on US warships carrying Marines. What was the response.

Not to land the Marines to go out and hunt down the terrorists who fired on the ships, but to set to sea. Now, this might be SOP, but the terrorists can just turn around and claim that this was a victory, regardless of the fact that they didn't even hit the ships.

Achmed - See, we got the infidels to flee from the umma. They didn't even fire at us. They are scared of dealing with the true warriors of Islam.

It was a failed attack that will be spun as a victory for al Qaeda.

Oh, and the media will help them with that message, by showing that this attack in Jordan is somehow a failure to win the war on terror.

However, if the Marines did land, they might have tracked down and caught those terrorists. Killed them even. Leaving the world with a bunch less terrorists than before. And yes, I know that Jordan is a friendly country to the US, at least politically, but was the request to pursue even raised before they raised anchor?

32 Dov (In the Astrodome City) Republic of Texas  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 6:57:17am

#19 Kragar

Regarding # 11

C'mon leave it that way, # 11 made it more interesting

33 Occasional Reader  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 6:59:21am

The failure of the US warships to position themselves correctly in the path of these rockets will only cause further shame and humiliation to devote Muslims, thus increasing so-called "terrorist attacks". Once again, America is to blame...

34 Bob24  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:01:00am

Katyusha rockets? Aren't they Hizbollah's weapon of choice? After the whole Karine A affair, a connection shouldn't be ruled out.

35 pointed stick  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:01:55am

#24 amir
not a problem.

36 legalbgl  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:02:31am
"Zionists are a legitimate target and we warn the Americans, who are spreading their corruption throughout the world and who have stolen the wealth of the Muslim nation, to expect even more stinging attacks.
"This is our debut operation in Jordan," it added. "And as we have begun to destroy the throne of the Egyptian tyrant, we warn the Jordanian tyrant to release our jailed brothers and voluntarily abdicate before we force you to go."

Wait, I am confused, is this about stolen wealth and zionisim or jailed brothers? Make up your mind, you cannot be a multitasking terorist. Terrorists are single purpose and single minded. Trying to destroy and kill for to many reasons is like having one to many cooks in the kitchen.

I guess because this is there debut operation they really havent had a chance to come up with a cohesive mission statement yet.

37 Kragar (Proud to be kafir)  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:02:48am

26 heliotrope

OK, this gets me every time:

"Zionists are a legitimate target and we warn the Americans, who are spreading their corruption throughout the world and who have stolen the wealth of the Muslim nation, to expect even more stinging attacks

We steal from them what exactly? The oil which we pay through the nose for and their corrupt leaders keep the money? OK, suppose we didnt "steal" the oil, WTF are they going to do with it? Grow food with it? Build some decent houses out of it? Use it as medicine to deal with all the birth defects caused by inbreeding? What a bunch of fucking morons.

/end rant

38 motorcycle mom  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:02:58am

18 dataman0
I looked up the USS Wisconsin. You are right that was some ship.

39 Manker  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:03:00am

Two questions:

1. Were soldiers allowed shore leave in Jordan?

2. Why were US ships docked in Jordan, yet they can't even go to Israel?

40 Model4  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:03:19am
A group claiming links to al Qaeda, the Abdullah al-Azzam Brigades of the al Qaeda Organization in the Levant and Egypt, said in a statement it had carried out the attack.

Only in the Muslim world would such a spectacular failed excuse for an attack be something to claim bragging rights about.

41 Abu Messerschmitt  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:04:43am

Maybe I should have put this in the German Threas, but, anyway, Der Spiegel Reveals Al-Qaeda Seven Phade Plan For World Domination

The First Phase: "The awakening" -- this has already been carried out and was supposed to have lasted from 2000 to 2003, or more precisely from the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 in New York and Washington to the fall of Baghdad in 2003. The aim of the attacks of 9/11 was to provoke the US into declaring war on the Islamic world and thereby "awakening" Muslims.

The Second Phase "Opening Eyes" is, according to Hussein's definition, the period we are now in and should last until 2006. Hussein believes this is a phase in which al-Qaida wants an organization to develop into a movement.

The Third Phase: "Arising and Standing Up" should last from 2007 to 2010. Attacks on Turkey and in Israel are predicted. Al-Qaida's masterminds hope that attacks on Israel will help the terrorist group become a recognized organization.

The Fourth Phase: Between 2010 and 2013 Al-Qaida will aim to bring about the collapse of the hated Arabic governments. At the same time attacks will be carried out against oil suppliers and the US economy will be targeted using cyber terrorism.

The Fifth Phase This will be the point at which an Islamic state, or caliphate, can be declared. The plan is that by this time, between 2013 and 2016, Western influence in the Islamic world will be so reduced and Israel weakened so much, that resistance will not be feared. Al-Qaida hopes that by then the Islamic state will be able to bring about a new world order.

The Sixth Phase: From 2016 onwards there will a period of "total confrontation." As soon as the caliphate has been declared the "Islamic army" it will instigate the "fight between the believers and the non-believers" which has so often been predicted by Osama bin Laden.

The Seventh Phase: Definitive Victory The rest of the world will be so beaten down by the "one-and-a-half billion Muslims," the caliphate will undoubtedly succeed. This phase should be completed by 2020, although the war shouldn't last longer than two years.

42 Psion  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:04:50am

What did you expect?

The ethnic-cleansing of Jews from their homes and communities in the Gaza Strip is almost complete. Thousands of dedicated Hamas, Hezbollah, and Islamic Jihad terror supporters have joined the U.N., E.U., and the "International Community" in celebrating the terrorist victory over the Infidels. The Israelis, representing a vanquished West, are now preparing to accommodate the Islamic Nation and a united front of European Jew-haters by surrendering the West Bank including the most sacred sites of Judaism and Christianity to the New Caliphate as well.

In the present climate of capitulation and appeasement, no one should be surprised by the upsurge of terrorist aggression against American and European interests. We have forced an untenable security situation on the Jewish Nation and in so doing we have given a green-light to terrorists everywhere to launch attacks against our own people also.

The "Saturday people" have been vanquished, now it's the "Sunday people's" turn to face the murderous fury of invigourated and re-organised Islam.

Appeasement will be the Waterloo of the West.

43 Renna  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:05:08am

Look at all the countrymen involved.

Syrians, Iraqis, Kuwaiti car, Egyptian, all in Jordan.

One war.

44 Abu Messerschmitt  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:05:31am

PIMF

Maybe I should have put this in the German Threas, but, anyway, Der Spiegel Reveals Al-Qaeda Seven Phade Plan For World Domination

The First Phase: "The awakening" -- this has already been carried out and was supposed to have lasted from 2000 to 2003, or more precisely from the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 in New York and Washington to the fall of Baghdad in 2003. The aim of the attacks of 9/11 was to provoke the US into declaring war on the Islamic world and thereby "awakening" Muslims.

The Second Phase "Opening Eyes" is, according to Hussein's definition, the period we are now in and should last until 2006. Hussein believes this is a phase in which al-Qaida wants an organization to develop into a movement.

The Third Phase: "Arising and Standing Up" should last from 2007 to 2010. Attacks on Turkey and in Israel are predicted. Al-Qaida's masterminds hope that attacks on Israel will help the terrorist group become a recognized organization.

The Fourth Phase: Between 2010 and 2013 Al-Qaida will aim to bring about the collapse of the hated Arabic governments. At the same time attacks will be carried out against oil suppliers and the US economy will be targeted using cyber terrorism.

The Fifth Phase This will be the point at which an Islamic state, or caliphate, can be declared. The plan is that by this time, between 2013 and 2016, Western influence in the Islamic world will be so reduced and Israel weakened so much, that resistance will not be feared. Al-Qaida hopes that by then the Islamic state will be able to bring about a new world order.

The Sixth Phase: From 2016 onwards there will a period of "total confrontation." As soon as the caliphate has been declared the "Islamic army" it will instigate the "fight between the believers and the non-believers" which has so often been predicted by Osama bin Laden.

The Seventh Phase: Definitive Victory The rest of the world will be so beaten down by the "one-and-a-half billion Muslims," the caliphate will undoubtedly succeed. This phase should be completed by 2020, although the war shouldn't last longer than two years.

45 legalbgl  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:05:34am

#31 Lawhawk

Clinton era policy following the USS Cole, an attack on a warship in a middle east port is not an act of war. We didnt declare war then, so why now?

46 greenmamba  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:05:58am

Really really OT and also Completely Different:

Al-Arabiya Reports: Middle East's First Gay Wedding

47 AmericanGirl  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:05:58am

Could someone of expertise describe the rocket involved? I assume this is some kind of shoulder fired thing?

48 Colt  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:06:19am

This is odd. Eilat's mayor says, after an analysis with security officials, that they believe the rocket that hit Eilat was intended to hit the USS Ashland.

Katyushas suck, but they don't suck that much. Also:

"A group of our mujahideen have targeted U.S. vessels in Jordan and (Israel's) Eilat port with three Katyusha rockets before safely returning to their base," said the group’s statement.

That was after the fact, so they might just be saving face, though.

49 Kragar (Proud to be kafir)  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:07:41am

#39 Manker

First off, would sailors even want shore leave in Jordan?

Second, because of stupid politics where we cant openly side with our friends and need to make a show of supporting our enemies.

50 cjstavern  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:07:59am

After such a pathetic attempt why would an "organization" claim responsibility?

51 Psion  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:08:39am

Katushas are fired from makeshift tubes...like mortars only much longer.

52 pointed stick  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:09:29am

#36 legalbgl

I guess because this is there debut operation they really havent had a chance to come up with a cohesive mission statement yet.


REG:Right. You're in. Listen. The only people we hate more than the Romans
arethe fucking Judean People's Front.
P.F.J.:Yeah...
JUDITH:Splitters.
P.F.J.:Splitters...
FRANCIS:And the Judean Popular People's Front.
P.F.J.:Yeah. Oh, yeah. Splitters. Splitters...
LORETTA:And the People's Front of Judea.
P.F.J.:Yeah. Splitters. Splitters...
REG:What?LORETTA:
The People's Front of Judea. Splitters.
REG:We're the People's Front of Judea!
/sorry, had to!

53 legalbgl  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:09:48am

#51 Psion

So these guys couldnt hit the broad side of a barn, or an amphibious assault platform?

54 Colt  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:10:31am

#34 Bob24

Katyusha rockets? Aren't they Hizbollah's weapon of choice? After the whole Karine A affair, a connection shouldn't be ruled out.

If the rockets weren't Qassams (i.e., homemade), they probably came from Iraq. 'Katyusha' is a generic term.

#47 AmericanGirl

They look a bit like this.

55 Bubble Girl  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:10:53am

So what do we do... just stand and fling curses at them like the Holy Grail...

56 Psion  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:12:26am

REAL armies (i.e. Russians or Americans)fire katushas en masse, hundreds per minute. they are not designed to be accurate...they are meant to rain hell on troops and towns.

57 cracker_jones  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:12:40am

#40
Model4

Only in the Muslim world would such a spectacular failed excuse for an attack be something to claim bragging rights about.

OT, but wasn't this the same strategy used by the democrats in the Ohio special election a couple of weeks ago? Claiming a less than double digit loss as a victory, and a sign of Bushitler's unpopularity?

58 Kragar (Proud to be kafir)  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:13:50am

#55 Bubble Girl

Take off, nuke the site from orbit.

Only way to be sure.

59 pointed stick  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:14:19am

#55 Bubble Girl
exactly!
S: Ah don' wanna talk to you no more, you empty-headed animal food-trough
wiper! Ah fart in your general direction! Your mother was a hamster, and
your father smelt of elderberries!
Galahad: Is there someone else up there we can talk to?
S: No! Now go away, or I shall taunt you a second time!

60 AmericanGirl  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:14:37am

Colt and Psion - Thank you.

They look something like what my brothers used to launch from the field behind our house when we were kids (just bigger). I guess we should be thankful these guys were such rank amateurs or we'd have some ships with big holes in them.

61 Colt  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:14:50am

#40 Model4

Only in the Muslim world would such a spectacular failed excuse for an attack be something to claim bragging rights about.

I wouldn't call this a spectacular failure. They got the rockets in to position, launched them and escaped without being captured or killed. In short, they did virtually everything right. A relatively cheap attack, which at the least demonstrates your omnipresence, and at best holes a U.S. warship and knocks down an Israeli airliner.

62 noshariaincanada  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:15:06am

One of the rockets landed in Eilat, striking a taxicab as it was driving along near the airport (driver miraculously unharmed).

That rocket did not explode, but did badly damage the taxicab and left a large crater in the road.

I have vidcaps from TV footage.

63 Carolyn  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:15:25am

Remember that the jihadis don't aim their weapons, they just rely on allah! So, I guess allah can't shoot straight. Thank the real G-d.

64 dataman0  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:15:38am

"The "Saturday people" have been vanquished, now it's the "Sunday people's" turn to face the murderous fury of invigourated and re-organised Islam.

Appeasement will be the Waterloo of the West."


Agreed, and frankly I think politically, as a nation, we are losing the war of public opinion. Another 9/11 may wake us up briefly, but it will be politics as usual again. There may be a tipping point but we are so poisoned from within by the 5th column left and it's willing accomplices MSM, Hollyweird and the Jack Ass party et al that I really wonder if we will ever the nerve and guts to do what needs to be done. All out war.
A two term presidency is part of the problem in a decades long war.

65 Bubble Girl  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:16:38am
 #59

pointed stick  8/19/2005 09:14AM PDT
#55 Bubble Girl
exactly!
S: Ah don' wanna talk to you no more, you empty-headed animal food-trough
wiper! Ah fart in your general direction! Your mother was a hamster, and
your father smelt of elderberries!
Galahad: Is there someone else up there we can talk to?
S: No! Now go away, or I shall taunt you a second time!

LOL LOL... meanwhile PETA says we cannot use cows for the catapult!

66 Eric Anondson  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:17:25am

The missiles that missed narrowly only to land in Jordan on the people Al Qaeda are purportedly acting in the interests of had me thinking of...

"Team Al Qaeda! F#ck Yeah!"
"Coming to ruin the mutha f#ckin' day, yeah!"
"Team Al Qaeda! F#ck Yeah!"
"Sharia is the only way, yeah!"

Maybe someone wants to finish the rest? :)

67 RaiderDan  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:17:56am

Well of course the U.S. ships were attacked. The warmongering imperialistic Zionists were doing their typical bit of saber rattling by sending their BushCo. war machine to a peaceful Arab city. They deserved what they got. The U.S Navy is the real terrorist!


/channelling Cindy Sheehan

68 Bubble Girl  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:18:01am
 #58

Kragar (Proud to be kafir)  8/19/2005 09:13AM PDT
#55 Bubble Girl


Take off, nuke the site from orbit.


Only way to be sure.

Makes sense to me.

69 godfrey  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:18:14am

Bubble

Insults aren't a bad idea, actually. We should really drop leaflets, insulting their manhood and competence, and so goad them into more stupidities. Meanwhile, we get permission from Jordan to swat them. And then we swat with impunity.

70 rebmiami  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:18:28am

41 -- that was a good read, thanks.

What a crackpipe fantasy that these clowns will ever graduate from killing unarmed women, children, journalists, old people, etc. to taking on the West in a stand up fight.

You know with uniforms, formations, lines of battle.

Never, ever, ever, going to happen.
Still have not accepted the primacy of empirical reality which at its core is the source of Western military primacy.

As I have said before the disparity is what we and they could do and would like to do.

The warship they fired on could take out the whole town they fired from, but it chose not to.

If they could push a button and kill us all they would but they can't

We have the capability to kill them all but we choose not to.

It will likely take a long time to get remotely near that, but they would be unwise to keep pressing the issue.

Another mass killing on U.S. soil like 9-11 will not result in us throwing Israel under the bus, letting Mubarak and Musharraf get overthrown, agreeing to pay $5 more per barrel, etc. On the contrary, I think that is when the people wake up, cast aside timidity and equivocation, and world war IV begins in earnest. Conscription, rationing, carpet bombing, and general ugliness.

But we will see.

71 bruxellesblog  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:18:29am

#42 Psion

What did you expect? The ethnic-cleansing of Jews from their homes and communities in the Gaza Strip is almost complete.

Jeeze Louise, could you PLEASE tone down your sky-high rhetoric? This isn't DU for f*cks sake. Last time I checked, the IDF wasn't killing Jews in the strip and burying the bodies at night.

You don’t agree with the pull out, fine, we get that. But asinine comments like this degrade those who have been the victims of ethnic cleansing. It is no better than the Bush=Hitler crap.

72 James P  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:18:48am

A US cruiser or destroyer wouldn't even notice a Katyusha rocket hitting it. And the ship could reply with a whole plethora of unpleasantness (cruise missiles and five inch guns for land targets).

74 Renna  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:20:00am

I don't mind that the MSM is calling it a warship. That's what it is.

We sure didn't build 'em for tiddly-winks. Or tsunami relief, although they did come in handy there.

I just wonder if they call other countries' boats warships or naval ships.

75 pointed stick  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:20:03am

#65 Bubble Girl
non, non...feche la vache!

76 Carolyn  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:20:21am

Monty Python sound board.

77 Poitiers-Lepanto  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:21:03am

#64 Dataman0

I really wonder if we will ever the nerve and guts to do what needs to be done. All out war.

As Savage repeated just yesterday, we "lost" in Vietnam BECAUSE the politicians didn't unleash our military power.
This time the defeat would be the defeat of a whole civilization.

78 Black George Bush  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:21:32am
79 Ann  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:21:43am

The linked article says this:

which was launched from an industrial warehouse area.

The AP article on Fox says this:

One of at least three missiles fired from a poor neighborhood of Aqaba, Jordan, narrowly missed a U.S. Navy ship
80 Renna  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:22:26am

#62 noshariaincanada

Please link!

I have vidcaps from TV footage.
81 TotallySirius  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:23:14am

Apparently one of the rockets that missed,hit a hospital wall.

Al-Q affiliate takes responsibility.

I don't know but is a failed attack really what you want advertised?

82 keepandbear  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:25:00am

Thats what you get when you buy from Uncle Ahmeds Used Arms ShopTM

83 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:25:04am

#81 because as Colt and I have both noted, it suggests that al Qaeda can still strike. It not only keeps them relevant, but shows that the US Navy is susceptible to being hit at any time, anywhere. Oh, and the media will run with this, with the usual doom and gloom pontificating about how this shows that we aren't winning. etc.

84 rebmiami  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:26:25am

78
The more statements I hear like that, the more hopeful I become that this might end more like the Cold War, internal collapse, and less like WW2 with Dresden, Hiroshima equivalents.

The key will be whether Islamic nations reject the killbots in their midst or continue to root for them and silently support them.

This jihadi thing has turned on and bitten the Saudis and Egyptians (and Indonesians to an extent) and may play itself out by doing so.

85 Poitiers-Lepanto  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:26:35am

#78 BGB

Man ! You deserve a Nobel prize !
You found the mythical

moderate muslim !

He exists ! He's not a legend !
The tiny minority of the other 1,199,999,999 muslims is now a footnote in history books.

86 RaiderDan  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:27:17am
One of at least three missiles fired from a poor neighborhood of Aqaba, Jordan, narrowly missed a U.S. Navy ship


Poor neighborhood? More proof that the oppressed people of the world are resisting the Zionist war machine!

/International Answer

87 NotThatGordo  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:27:30am

Too bad they can't keep SSDS on auto in port. It would have been interesting the see if the Phalanx on the Ashland could have hit the little buggers as they flew past


NTG

88 motorcycle mom  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:27:33am

We bombed them in Taba and we attacked them today in Eilat and we will shake them up in Tal Al-Rabih (Tel Aviv in Arabic), God willing," the statement said, according to a translation.


God must not have been willing, this was a failed attack

89 bruxellesblog  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:27:48am

#79 Ann

One of at least three missiles fired from a poor neighborhood of Aqaba, Jordan, narrowly missed a U.S. Navy ship

Oh, I get it now, the MSM wants us to take pity on the missiles because they come from a broken home...

90 Colt  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:28:03am

#79 Ann

It could be a warehouse in a poor neighbourhood.

91 keepandbear  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:28:31am

88 motorcycle mom

Now thats funny
ROTFLMAO

92 LynnBo  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:28:48am

I'm glad they missed, but we must respond as if they had succeeded! Get the F@*ckers! They cannot (even with failed attempts) get away with their terrorism. Period.

93 cba  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:29:02am

#73 lawhawk:
The map is slightly deceptive because it doesn't show a scale. Eilat and Aquaba are just about side by side. They're so close that when my family and I were heading north out of Eilat on a jeep tour (a few months ago) my husband said, "Gee, how do you get to that part of Eilat?" before he realised it wasn't actually Eilat, it was Aquaba (which, BTW, is a much bigger city).

Oh, and the airport is only about a mile or two inland, if that.

94 Occasional Reader  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:31:23am

Al Qaeda: we'll see your two Katyushas, and raise you.

95 BIG  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:31:47am

78 Black George Bush

You don't even hear that from an American journalist.

96 selpaw  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:32:05am

#21 cba


selpaw, I think most people don't realise that the Eilat airport (which is tiny) is in the middle of the city. Freaks me out to think I was just there a few weeks ago.

My family is fine, thank you! One always thinks of them being quite safe where they are but you never know.

The best part of landing in Eilat for me is the wide circle the plane makes almost to the Egyptian border over the majestic mountain range. I love it. It is even more beautiful at night with all the lights from Eilat and the ships at sea twinkling below. I am a bit of a dare devil as well so when the plane descends lower and lower passing over the shopping mall it is a bit of a thrill. Having said that, the smell of jet fuel to those on the ground is less then pleasant.

The airport as you might know is slated to be moved to the Arava quite a distance from Eilat. Of course the rail system also will connect to Eilat one of these days.

97 Scrotis Lo Knows  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:32:38am

Call me a sick bastard but i still can't chuckling over that poor Jordnaian soldier being taken out in all this..what a hoot...talk about being in the wrong place...

98 Occasional Reader  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:33:07am

Whoops, three Katyushas. We'll still raise you.

99 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:34:04am

#93 I agree that the map is missing its scale. However, this is an aerial of the region taken from around 36,000 feet. I will upload a better map in a bit that will hopefully have scale, and the border delineated.

100 reaganite  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:34:22am

#97 Scrotis Lo Knows
STFU

101 Renna  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:34:28am

From AP story on this

Oil climbed back above $64 after the Aqaba attack, although Jordan is not a crude oil exporter.

If is it unrelated, why the heck mention it? In its own paragraph?

"Stock prices for AnnTaylor dropped after the attack, although Jordan has nothing to do with the company."

102 pointed stick  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:36:34am

#101 Renna
because PERCEPTION is far more important to the media than REALITY...

103 keepandbear  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:36:38am

#95 BIG

You don't even hear that from an American journalist.

Thats because good dhimmis don't talk back

104 cba  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:36:54am

selpaw, thanks for the update about your family.

Yes, I saw the new location for the airport. We went on a (fabulous) jeep trip to Timna Park and on the way back the guide pointed out the site. (As an aside--I never thought my parents would enjoy an off-road jeep trip, but they did. The kids, of course, thought it was a real hoot. The older one kept bugging the guide to let her drive. He refused, I'm glad to say.)

105 Scrotis Lo Knows  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:37:09am

#100

are you upset reganite?

106 Ann  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:37:19am

#90 Colt

Hi, Colt! Happ.. no, I won't say it -:)

It could be a warehouse in a poor neighbourhood.

I don't care if the neighborhood was rich or poor, but apparently the MSM does. The implication of victimization and justification to attack always has to seep in with the media.

107 3 wood  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:39:08am

I would just sit back and let the Jordanian authorities do their jobs. Given that a Jordanian soldier was killed in this attack, I don't think the authorities will be have much patience with these goofs. Last I checked, the ACLU does not have a branch in Jordan, and I don't think they are obsessed with the rights of cold blooded killers a whole lot over there (unlike our liberal courts in the US). My guess is that the questioning after they are apprehended will involve the use of a blow torch. It will be like that scene out of Casa Blanca, the authorities will have to decide whether these three goofs commited suicide or died trying to escape.

108 LynnBo  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:39:22am

#77 Poitiers-L "As Savage repeated just yesterday, we "lost" in Vietnam BECAUSE the politicians didn't unleash our military power.
This time the defeat would be the defeat of a whole civilization."

With all due respect, we need to be reminded that we did not loose a single battle in Vietnam. What we did do, which we can never do again, is allow idiotarians like (Hanoi) Jane Fonda, the Mainstream Media, and John Kerry to tear down and infect America with propaganda, commie-bias and lies.

The commie, anti-American left is doing it again. We cannot let them...ever again.

If we do, the USA will cease to exist. Its that simple.

109 Colt  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:39:56am

#106 Ann

Hello :-)

Happ.. no, I won't say it -:)

Thank you.

The implication of victimization and justification to attack always has to seep in with the media.

I'm with you now.

110 bruxellesblog  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:39:59am
"Stock prices for AnnTaylor dropped after the attack, although Jordan has nothing to do with the company."

What, you don't know about the great Halliburton/Jordan/Carlisle Corp/Ann Taylor secret society?

Egad, was I not suppoed to say anything?

111 Jim in Virginia  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:47:16am

31 lawhawk- I sympathize with your comment but give it a couple days. Ships make big easy targets; it makes sense to get them out of the way, then send in helicopter gunships and drones. (I hope...)
This war is frustrating because there are a lot of things the US does that we don't hear about immediately if ever. Silence does not mean inaction.

78 Black George Bush- someone is going to get a fatwa. Or a bullet, more likely.

112 selpaw  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:51:09am

104 cba

Moving the airport will make not only air quality better but it will be safer.

The Arava is a sight to behold. A jeep trip is a great way to view it. So glad you enjoyed it. Next time you go to Eilat you will have to take a car ride out the other side of Eilat which travels to Ramon Crater. The trip is so senic with lots of places to stop and look around all along the way. You can hike up and down very steep moutains which is lots of fun. Goodness, I have tons of pictures of Ibex. They just stand there and stare at you. It is a nice trip at night also to view the night sky which always takes my breath away.

113 Black George Bush  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:53:48am

#95 BIG
I try not to belive that the is a race of people void of cohearant thought and critical thinking skills. While sometimes I wonder, this guy does give us hope. Atleast untill the islamic facist kill him.

114 Jim in Virginia  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:54:34am

Maybe the tinfoil is too tight- but with all the recent activity in the neighborhood (Taba, Sharm al Sheikh, lots of bad guys in Jordan), the Navy may not have exactly been surprised by this. Were our ships there as bait?

115 dataman0  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:55:18am

"One of the rockets landed in Eilat, striking a taxicab as it was driving along near the airport (driver miraculously unharmed).

That rocket did not explode, but did badly damage the taxicab and left a large crater in the road."

Another typical day in the Middle East...yawn...

116 MollyShark  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:57:28am

To think I was standing in that very place not a week ago. Still have a scab on my leg where one of those gorgeous fish decided to have me for a breakfast food while wading out in the water by the Carlton Hotel.

117 alegrias  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 8:01:43am

#20 Talking Kamel

The Noor Queen you refer to--former American architect Lisa Hallaby whose dad was big in TWA--now lives in the US where she does her antisemitic schtick amongst the diplomatic/cultural circles.

Her daughter in law Queen Rana and former King Hussein's son (who's half English) better kiss partying hard in Mallorca, Spain with retinues of Mercedes lined up alongside their royal yacht cruisers--before Al Zawqawi targets them and takes over the plunder.

Elections in Egypt will also be interesting--how will the party of terrorists fare in Middle Eastern elections this year?

(Can't believe we have to stand by and treat "Terror" parties as people too for sake of LLL's diversity requirements)

118 selpaw  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 8:03:58am

73 lawhawk

There is a lagoon near the fish farms where you can wade across to Aqaba. Once a Jordanian did cross right there but he was an innocent guy looking for work. LOL! You know, the wealth of Jordan does not reach too many of her people.

Farther up the Arava, all that separates Jordan from Israel is a sad road. Matter of fact years ago prior to the peace deal with Jordan a kibbutz was infiltrated and a volunteer almost lost her life from head wounds. She later returned home and became a physician and for a while practiced medicine in the Arava living on that same kibbutz.

The Arava has been quite safe. It is heavily patrolled and if any sand is disturbed on those roads which border Jordan and Israel, Bedowin trackers are engaged quite fast to track what or who has come across. From a distance on a mountain top is a military outlook. They can look down and see all the kibbutzim to the point of what color underwear one is wearing.

The worst infiltrations come from stray Camels crossing from Jordan

119 Momzilla  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 8:04:39am

#63 Caroline

Remember that the jihadis don't aim their weapons, they just rely on allah! So, I guess allah can't shoot straight. Thank the real G-d.

Heh heh This reminded me of the story of Joshua when Israel was engaged in hand-to-hand combat and G-d chunked humongeous hailstones down on the Amorites, missing the army of Israel. The only of Israel that died in that battle were by the sword of their enemy, but far fewer than G-d had conked in the head with that hail. Our G-d has a good arm and never misses His target!

(Note, as well, that Israel was expected to be fully participating in this battle, in obedience and faith, and not standing around picking their noses.)

And thus ends your Sunday School lesson for this week. LOL

120 Poitiers-Lepanto  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 8:07:11am

#108 LynnBo

... we need to be reminded that we did not loose a single battle in Vietnam.

That's why I did write
"...we "lost"..."
instead of
"...we lost..."

I agree with the rest, the subversive left is trying to bind our hands, again, and this time in a battle for the life or the death of our civilization.

By the way, the subversive left shouldn't talk so much about Vietnam, THEY have the responsibility for the millions of lives lost in the "reeducation" camps, in the killing fields, in the boats at sea.

It drives me crazy to see them PROUD of what they have done in the past.
What they have done is simple, they helped the commies to kill millions of persons.

121 noshariaincanada  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 8:10:21am

#80 renna

I accidentally erased my vidcaps, but I did find an image online:

[Getty Images]

122 alegrias  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 8:14:58am

#120 Poitiers Lepanto

Watch the media dismiss these acts of war committed against us and Israel, while they canonize Mommie Dearest's generation which permitted genocides of Cambodians & Vietnamese to happen after our retreat in 1975.

No retreat from the enemy. What is it deafeatists don't understand.

123 LynnBo  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 8:17:15am

This guy seems to have it right. From the Y Net News, a Saudi Journalist: According to al-Sheikh, “eradicating terror will only be possible by doing away with the ideas that come from our society. A military solution is not enough,” he said.

“We must treat modern Jihad parties just as the Europeans treated Naziism," he added.

“The ideas of radical Islam are similar to the ideas that drove the Nazi ideology. If the economic freeze and national depression in 1930 led to the emergency to murderous Nazism, we can say that the economic and cultural failure that grip Arab and Muslim countries today, together with the frustration of many Muslims, are once again driving this murderous philosophy."

Similarly, the common denominator is hatred and physical elimination of the other, al-Sheikh said

Y Net News

124 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 8:44:12am

I've updated the map, included the border line, and pushed in a bit, but I wasn't able to find a scale.

125 LynnBo  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 8:47:32am

#120 Poitiers-Lepanto

My mistake, I wasn't clear that I was responding to your quote from Michael Savage...and adding on my 2 cents...

I totally agree that the left has no comprehension for the *true* results of their actions. Thus, they have no ability to visualize the consequences of their current insanity.

Insanity: "Doing the same thing over and over, expecting different results."

Mix that mindset with their lust for power at any cost, and their advantage of the sympathetic ear of the mainstream media, and its just plain scary. Nearly as scary as the threat of Islamo-fascist terrorism...Both aim to destroy America.

I might sound harsh. But we need to honestly identify and understand the problem before we can identify the solution.

I'm not saying all liberals are bad, nor am I saying all Muslims are bad. But those who are not bad are not defending their positions against the radicals hijacking their institutions. What was the party of J.F. Kennedy and what was the Religion of Peace, have been stolen away by extremeists. Those who are steadfastly supporting them are what I call "Useful Idiots" as per Stalin's rise to Communist Power and Hitler's rise to Nazi Fascism.

The US Democratic Party needs more clear minds like Zell Miller if they are to ever survive. The USA needs two parties...at least. The USA does NOT need zombies who can't think for themselves.

The future of our Nation depends on it.

126 Psion  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 8:47:59am

There is a better picture HERE

And Brusslesblog...Shouldn't you sticke to commenting on the EU Parliament, and leave discussions of Israeli affairs to less "trollish" commentators?

Peace,

Tamar

127 zulubaby  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 8:54:34am

Abbas credits 'martyrs' with Israel's Gaza withdrawal

In his Friday speech, however, Abbas praised the "martyrs and their patience" for Israel's withdrawal.

This is just hopeless.

128 Joel  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 9:02:06am

127 zulubaby
The concept of "Reality" and the Arab mindset have never been introduced. Abbas could convince himself that the Tampa Bay Devil Rays are the best team in Baseball if he wanted to. It does not make them so. In a way, the Arab tendency towards delusional thinking works in our favor. An enemy who bases his conduct on sober, calculating, reality and a well thought out strategy is far more dangerous.

129 LynnBo  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 9:17:01am

Zulubaby, it gets worse. (Sorry.) Check out the popular-to-the-Palestinians Poems

Sickening.

130 Psion  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 9:17:49am
In a way, the Arab tendency towards delusional thinking works in our favor.

I haven't seen much evidence of that yet.

Muslims are indeed delusional, sort of like homeboys on PCP...the Colt 45 was employed during the American-Phillipines war because those "delusional" Muslims werén't being stopped by conventional Army issue handguns.

A delusional enemy can be difficult to frighten, much less defeat.

131 LynnBo  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 9:25:48am

OT - The Communist/Socialist organization, International A.N.S.W.E.R., has obtained a permit for an Anti-War demonstration in front of the White House on September 24th.

International A.N.S.W.E.R.

132 Claudia  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 9:31:33am

For those of you wondering about the size of Eilat & Aqaba... it's a small bay and each city faces the other. The king of Jordan has a villa right on the border with Israel. I look out my window and see the houses of Aqaba across the bay. With zoom I can see people.

Aqaba is much larger than Eilat, but Eilat is much greener. When Clinton came to Aqaba/Eilat to witness the Peace Treaty being signed, all of the cameras were facing the Israeli side which is lush with date trees etc...

Aqaba is a colossal bore. Although a resort town like Eilat, there are no women on the streets... I went to a nightclub with my husband z"l and our Aqaba host. I was the only woman there aside from the Lebanese singer.

C.

133 Baldy  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 9:34:02am

Will we respond in a meaningful way to this? Or will Condi just say it's "unhelpful?"

134 zulubaby  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 9:34:17am

Here it is, I found the original incredibly lame headline from this story.

Attackers Fire Missiles at U.S. Navy Ship

Can you want it? Attackers.

Joel, I don't think it's wise -- ever -- to underestimate anybody, especially a deadly enemy like the Arabs.

LynnBo, I saw that earlier, sent it to Charles. I find it incredibly frustrating that Jerusalem Post includes Khaled Abu Toameh's propaganda commentary. I asked Horovitz about it. He said they like to get "all views". Ugh. I miss Bret Stephens.

135 Colt  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 9:35:15am

#114 Jim in Virginia

Maybe the tinfoil is too tight- but with all the recent activity in the neighborhood (Taba, Sharm al Sheikh, lots of bad guys in Jordan), the Navy may not have exactly been surprised by this. Were our ships there as bait?

There are enough U.S. and other infidel targets in Jordan that the U.S. wouldn't need to provide bait.

136 zulubaby  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 9:35:21am

Hi Claudia. Shabbat Shalom :-)

137 Right Brain  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 9:36:07am

Fired three rockets at point blank range and couldn't hit the side of a ship, not really much to worry about from these losers.

138 Colt  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 9:37:06am

#134 zulubaby

Khaled Abu Toameh's politics are worth ignoring for the information he provides.

139 zulubaby  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 9:39:54am
140 zulubaby  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 9:41:27am

Colt,

Khaled Abu Toameh's politics are worth ignoring for the information he provides.

This is true. Sometimes I land up reading his pieces by mistake, sort of. I'm a sucker for a catchy headline.

141 Claudia  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 9:41:34am

Shabath Shalom Zulu. I too miss Bret Stephens.

I'm very curious to know what the US's response will be.

I'm emotionally drained from watching the disengagement on TV.

C.

142 zulubaby  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 9:44:20am

Claudia, I expect the US to do ... nothing. The Arabs get away with murder. Literally. I'm so finished too. I went to the beach today, took a break from it all.

143 Colt  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 9:48:27am

#140 zulubaby

As palis go, he isn't all that bad. He's invaluable on the Popular Resistance Committees, Fatah infighting, Hezbollah's moves in Yesha, and so on. I could care less if he spouts about the 'occupation' every now and again.

144 Claudia  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 9:49:08am

I argued with cousins on vacation from France. I was rude... I begged them to not discuss politics with me as I'll end up saying something to really hurt their feelings.

Ah, those Jews who sit in Paris and visit 1-2 a year and love Israel. But their boys are safely tucked away at University in Paris.

Good night y'all.
C.

145 Colt  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 9:51:26am

#140 zulubaby

Read his stuff - you will be more informed. I've learned to filter out the politics, and the Daily Telegraph's reports on Israel are a lot more pro-Arab than Abu Toameh's. TBH, I'd never noticed any bias on his part.

146 zulubaby  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 9:51:53am

Israel, US sign agreement ending tension over drones to China

The memorandum was designed to prevent future rifts over Israeli technology exports to China. The understanding is believed to effectively grant the US a veto over Israeli arms sales to selected countries if Washington feels its national security is compromised.

For those who insist that Israel should tell the US to piss off, please understand what is at stake. This suffocates me.

147 zulubaby  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 9:54:14am

Colt, I have a lot less patience than you do. I don't see why he should have a voice in a Jewish paper. If I want to know what the Arabs think, my resources are endless.

Sleep tight, Claudia.

148 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 9:57:05am

#137:

Fired three rockets at point blank range and couldn't hit the side of a ship, not really much to worry about from these losers.

Pray that their aim doesn't improve. We were lucky that they were poor shots. All they have to do is be lucky once, and we're talking dead sailors and Marines on board the ships and dead Israelis if the other rocket had actually exploded.

149 Colt  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 9:57:48am

#147 zulubaby

In his defence, it is an Israeli paper - which includes Arabs. I object to Larry Derfner's point of view far more than KAT's.

150 J.D.  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 9:58:06am

#148 lawhawk
All too true.

151 Colt  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 9:59:40am

#148 lawhawk

They weren't poor shots - the weapon is inaccurate, by its nature.

Given what they could have done with exactly the same materials, though, this outcome is certainly welcome.

152 LynnBo  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 9:59:41am

#133 Baldy 8/19/2005 11:34AM PDT
*Will we respond in a meaningful way to this? Or will Condi just say it's "unhelpful?" *

I just came back with my lunch...I almost choked reading this.

(Kiddingly) - You better be wrong, Baldy.

153 Joel  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 10:01:04am

Khaled Abu Toameh is a fine reproter who has been threatened by the Palestinians.

154 Colt  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 10:04:55am
Khaled Abu Toameh is a fine reproter who has been threatened by the Palestinians.

I'm trying to think of someone who hasn't been threatened by the 'palestinians'...

155 LynnBo  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 10:07:59am

Claudia, be gentle with yourself. God's divine justice always prevails. Sweet dreams.

156 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 10:08:17am

colt:

I stand corrected. Bad characterization on my part.

157 LynnBo  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 10:13:23am

Colt, Iowahawk: We dodged a (major) bullet. That doesn't give the bombers a pass. I say we go after them as if the rockets landed on their intended targets.

I'm sick of being so nice. Nice gets us killed. Trying to be nice to please the idiots is...idiotic.

158 Paul  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 10:19:23am

When I was in VN, I was stationed in Chu Lai, Hq for the Americal Division. We used to be rocketed irregularly with (I think) 122 millimeter Katyusha rockets. They were unguided ballistic rockets and not very accurate although, when fired in volleys, they could do damage. They were fired either from individual tubes or placed on earthen berms.

159 conservavince  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 11:27:38am

Right on #157...HIT EM' HARD!

160 zulubaby  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 11:29:19am
PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas says Gaza pullout a `first step` (BBC)

Hmmm, I wonder where he got that from.

161 selpaw  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 11:55:01am

160 zulubaby

The 'wonder' part in the ability to proclaim with confidence and 'why' is something everyone needs to look at. With no spin.

Abbas shooting his mouth off is truly more than mere bravado.
1. He knows he can

and

2. He heard it from the top.

162 selpaw  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 12:05:46pm

The best one of the day.Abbas says Gaza pullout is the result of Palestinian 'sacrifices'

That lying confident son of a bitch.


Sacrifices, what, they held back from killing every JEW. And this is the guy our government loves to prop up.

163 Stirred,not shakin  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 12:38:10pm

This interesting comment on this attack and reaction from a blog called Terrorism Unveiled:
"Meanwhile, nuts commenting at LGF want to declare war on Jordan, because that's where the attack came from. Great logic there, pals. I guess ignorance truly is bliss...and a lot of loudmouthing. I suppose they'd argue that we should've bombed Canada after Ahmed Ressam and Abdelmajid Dahoumane attempted to attack targets in the US after coming across our northern border."

Well, it's good to know we're "nuts" over here.

How SHOULD we feel? What are we SUPPOSED to say? I don't read above mentioned blog, I was directed there, so I probobly shouldn't rush to judgment. But are we just supposed to sit back and say: oh, they're attacking us! Let's open a dialouge.

OK, maybe we can't just attack Jordan, but I'd like to slap SOMEBODY!

We can't be a paper tiger for anyone who wants to mess with us. So, yeah, we're mad!

164 Freedom Fan  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 1:43:06pm
AMMAN (Reuters) - Rockets were fired at two U.S. warships in Jordan’s Red Sea Aqaba port on Friday, but missed their targets and killed a Jordanian soldier on land.

The three Katyusha missiles instead landed on a warehouse, a hospital and the neighboring Israeli port of Eilat.

With enemies like that, who needs friends?

(In the Middle East anyway.)

165 Colt  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 2:01:34pm

#160 zulubaby

I expect Condi probably has more weight with the PLO.

166 mattm  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 7:18:15pm

When will we stop trying to negoiate/appease these people?

167 zulubaby  Fri, Aug 19, 2005 10:29:51pm

Colt, Condi is one of the most powerful women in the world. Can't get the article :-(


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