Also, Islam does not mean peace.

What a revelation!

I predict a Million Muslim March will be announced shortly.

O Muslims! Resist and censor those who dare to promote that only the West Bank and Gaza are occupied and beg the kuffar to let them establish a freak entity in these areas called “Palestine”.

I like this guy's candor.

hmm...time to stock up on shotgun shells and 5.56.

Rebuke those who claim to speak in the name of Islam yet they prefer the UN’s resolutions over Allah’s

Well, at least we agree on the UN...

So allah could turn his foes into monkeys and pigs but today they can only complain to the u.n. and kill innocents through terrorism. Wow, now thats progress!

Allah's resolutions are found in the Koran written down by a pedophile and bandit named Muhammad.

Too bad too few Westerners actually bother to read up on the Koran or Muhammad.

Religion of peace my ass.

Muhammad personally butchered people and ordered assasinations. He made his living as a bandit raiding caravans,and gained converts to his new religion by force.

Islam was spread by the sword, not by peaceful preaching.

Look, I understand why the President has got to go along with this PR line that Islam is a 'Religion of Peace' because we need Pakistan and Turkey and Saudia Arabia and Kuwait and all these other Muslim nations on our side.

And it's true that there are millions of Muslims who don't take the call for violence and jihad and slaying the infidels in the Koran seriously.

But there are a couple hundred thousand who do.

And looking at the example Muhammad set for good Muslims everywhere, it's hard to argue with the terrorists that they aren't following after Muhammad.

manofaiki

Islam is a vile religion that must either be thoroughly reformed or eradicated.

#2 J.D.

I predict a Million Muslim March will be announced shortly.

I believe that was Gulf War Part I: The Mother of all Surrenders.

...unleashed the armed forces of the Muslim world against Israel...

You mean like in 1948, 1967, and 1973? How'd that work out for you?

#7
so true
I've finally been reading up a little on Islam, and, of course, it ain't pretty

I'm hoping this age of mass communication might finally shed more light on Islam, and I'm hoping Islam will wither in the light

this site helps

iiappc

Islam is:

1. Anti-equality
2. Anti-Life
3. Anti-Liberty
4. Anti-Pursuit of Happiness

It is the opposite of our Declaration. It is everything an American instinctively hates.

Sharia Law is very much like Stalinism/Maoism/Pol-Potism and Hitlerism.

No, there is no co-existence with either Communism or Islam. We are at War with Islam. There is no turning from it.

#7

"Look, I understand why the President has got to go along with this PR line that Islam is a 'Religion of Peace' because we need Pakistan and Turkey and Saudia Arabia and Kuwait and all these other Muslim nations on our side."

you might be a bit wrong, here
do we need all those two-bit countries on our side?
or do they need us?

wouldn't Saudi Arabia fall without the US to prop it up?
Did we need Turkey to defeat Iraq?
Pakistan, maybe, but they, too, might be close to being overthrown by Islamists, and then what would happen?
I think India could kick Pakistan's ass if the time came.

Nice guy. If only they had a third arm, or some distinctive way to ID them, round 'em up and keep 'em from breeding or spreading thier filth. Perhaps, when the REST of the 'moderate' Muslims get tired of the persecution, they'll point these guys out and/or shut them up themselves...
/I can dream, can't I?

Islam is based on the sayings of an illiterate caravan raider.

Islam opposes separation of church and state.

Islam allows wife beating.

Islam exhorts its followers to world conquest through brutal jihad. Islam contains many rules about what Muslims can and can't do with non-Muslims taken captive.

Islam teaches its followers that it's OK to lie to non-Muslims.

The punishment for apostasy from Islam is death.

Did I mention that Islam is a vile, racist, ignorant, 7th century religion that must either be thoroughly reformed or eradicated?

Who dares speak for God?

Let God speak for himself.

Whatever spoke to Mohammed, it wasn't the Angel Gabriel... and not even the Angel Gabriel could speak for God!

Perhaps the time has come for the people of Islam to stop following the words of its leaders, who in the end are only bastard prophets, and follow their own ideals and ideas.

Failing that, that giant hive of lies called the Ummah will doubtless be destroyed.

"Hallowed are the Ori."

sorry, but it seemed appropriate

One of the most amazing things I learned about Islam from a Muslim:

A Muslim man is allowed to forcibly take non-Muslim women captured during jihad as wives.

Some argue that this constitutes rape. The Muslim response is that these are "war widows" and it would be cruel to leave them to fend for themselves.

Nice "religion." Pass the 72 virgins, please.

# 9 Belize

...unleashed the armed forces of the Muslim world against Israel...
You mean like in 1948, 1967, and 1973? How'd that work out for you?

If that isn't proof that Israel is bound to stick around, I don't know what is.

/RoPMA

13 friarstale

wouldn't Saudi Arabia fall without the US to prop it up?

Probably and that would be very bad. Saudi Arabia has 50% of the world's oil production. Europe is in the mess it is because it made a deal: we will accept all the Muslims that want to come here, you don't turn off the oil. Do we want to see Japan and China make deals also? I don't think so.

Whatever else happens, that oil must flow if we are to prevent a world-wide depression that would make the 30th seem tame. I know that the Saudis are not our friends, but we really don't have any choice.

To say that ISLAM is our enemy is not bigotry it is the truth.

#18 ibrodsky

Nice "religion." Pass the 72 virgins, please.

Don't you mean 72 raisins? Read up on that in Irshad Manji's book, The Trouble with Islam Today.

from: [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Islam listen? (Arabic: الإسلام al-islām) "the submission to God"

Submission i.e. total slavery will indeed bring the end of conflict. But we cannot confuse the absence of conflict with peace.

Peace is:

[Link: www.vatican.va...]

With the profound intuition that characterized him, John XXIII identified the essential conditions for peace in four precise requirements of the human spirit: truth, justice, love and freedom (cf. ibid., I: l.c., 265-266). Truth will build peace if every individual sincerely acknowledges not only his rights, but also his own duties towards others. Justice will build peace if in practice everyone respects the rights of others and actually fulfils his duties towards them. Love will build peace if people feel the needs of others as their own and share what they have with others, especially the values of mind and spirit which they possess. Freedom will build peace and make it thrive if, in the choice of the means to that end, people act according to reason and assume responsibility for their own actions.

I don't understand a religion which suppossedly believes that G-d gave each of us free will --then works to deny free will.

20 [Engineer]

I don't know what taking the Saudi oilfields would entail, someone with a military background (Rayra?) may want to comment, but that option has to be on the table, because it simply may cease being possible to prop them up. It would be ugly. but suddenly removing that much production from the world would be uglier. As you say, it would make the '30s look like good times...

Islam does not mean peace.

The hell you say! Colour me shocked.

#18 ibrodsky

But with provisions:
Ishaq:512 “The Apostle prohibited four things the morning of the Khaybar raid: carnal intercourse with pregnant women who were captured, mingling his seed with another man’s [no gang rape]; nor it is lawful for him to take [rape] her until she is in a state of cleanness [not menstruating]; nor can a Muslim eat the flesh of donkeys; nor eat any carnivorous animal; nor sell any booty before it has been duly allotted[meaning before Muhammed got his cut of the booty].”

#25 Earth2moonbat

I don't know what taking the Saudi oilfields would entail, someone with a military background (Rayra?) may want to comment, but that option has to be on the table, because it simply may cease being possible to prop them up.

We can't keep the oil flowing in Iraq, which is much smaller (I have personal knowledge of the problems). We could take the KSA fields and the pipelines and the oil docks, but we couldn't keep them operating. As they say: SAFU

28 [Engineer]

All I can say is necessity is the mother of invention. I have to believe that if the situation becomes grave enough, we can and will do something, even if it means bringing every oilfield worker in Texas and Oklahoma (and Russia, and Romania, etc.) to the gulf. The situation just hasn't gotten bad enough yet.

#23 - ggt

Islam - at least as it's practised today (and no doubt has been since it began) has nothing to do with submission to God; only to God's self-proclaimed messengers.

"Always remember, the longer the beard, the greater the distrust."

must be removed and replaced by a single Islamic leadership for the whole Ummah which will mobilize the vast armed forces to annihilate the state of Israel and take back Palestine to be part of the Ummah once again – inshallah.

Seems odd to outline a plan involving tens of millions of people and toss in that "inshallah" at the end. If Allah "insh"ed wouldn't it have happened already? He's master of all things...yadda...yadda...right?

#30 keelie

"Always remember, the longer the beard, the greater the distrust."

ZZ Top is our greatest jihadi threat?

Also, Islam does not mean peace. This is a lingustic definition.

The guy is ignorant.
Islam means "SUBMISSION".

This guy's honesty is wonderful.

Would it have been possible that the best Ummah sent to mankind had not destroyed Israel long ago if we had a sincere Islamic leadership which unleashed the armed forces of the Muslim world against Israel to remove it from the face of this earth?

No.

First, "the armed forces of the Muslim world" couldn't beat an army of grannies with umbrellas.

Second:

That the Jews are connected with God in a special way and that God does not allow that bond to fail is entirely obvious. We wait for the instant in which Israel will say yes to Christ, but we know that it has a special mission in history now... which is significant for the world.
Pope Benedict XVI

Romans 11:26-29
And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.

For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

I've always wondered what would happen if there ever was a worldwide Ummah. Would they then actually try and advance society? Would they look for ET civilizations to conquer? Or would they just let humanity stagnate and eventually die out?

#35 HypnoToad

Would they then actually try and advance society?

Hell, no! Taliban Afghanistan was the Perfect Islamic State.

Shiver.

GAZA'S HISTORY AND THE JEWS

by Gary Fitleberg

What is the history of Gaza? Who holds claim to Gaza?

Gaza, or in Hebrew, Azza, is a city on the southern coastal plain of Eretz Yisrael (the Land of Israel, today Medinat Yisrael, or the modern nation State of Israel). In Biblical times, G-d gave this Holy Land as a gift, as an eternal covenant that can never, ever be broken, to the Children of Israel (the descendants of Jacob). This is clearly documented in the Deed of Trust to the land, which is the Bible. Two great gifts that can't be given away or stolen.

Gaza was a settlement about three miles from the Mediterranean coast, marking the southern border of ancient, Biblical Canaan. Its original inhabitants were a group of people known as the Avvites (Deut. 2;23; Josh. 13:3). This distinct group of people is now extinct.

It was captured and conquered by the men of the tribe of Judah (Judges 1:18) and was included in the allotment given to that tribe (Josh. 15:47). It remained in the possession of the Canaanites until the beginning of the 12th century BCE, when it became occupied by the Philistines. It was part of the Philistine Pentapolis, the southern-most city in that league of five cities (Josh. 13:3 1 Sam. 6:17; Jer. 25.20). As part of the Philistine Pentapolis, Gaza played an important role in the story of Samson (Judges 13-16).

Just to set the factual and historical record straight, the Philistines were a Mediterranean seafaring nation that is completely extinct today. They are not one and the same people as the Arab nation and people calling themselves "Palestinians" today. These Arabs are the descendants of Ishmael. The name "Palestine" and "Palestinians" evolved from the name Philistia, which was given to the area by the Roman conquerors as an insult to the Jewish people (named for the tribe of Judah and area of Judea). The name has been hijacked by the Arabs to lay a false claim to a land that does not belong to them Biblically, historically, legally, morally or rightfully.

In Gaza, the famous saga of Samson and his miraculous feats of strength took place. Samson perished in the Temple of Dagon while slaughtering his enemies (Judges 16). With the weakening of Egyptian support for the Philistines, the enemy finally submitted to David, who slew the giant Goliath in battle (II Sam. 5:25).

The Philistines, a distinct people, are also now extinct.

Let us now return to recounting the historical facts regarding Gaza.

It was the only city in its area to oppose Alexander the Great during 332 BCE. Later on, it was an outpost of the Ptolemies, who were the ruling power in Egypt during the Hellenistic period, until its capture in 98 BCE by Assyria's Antiochus III, the Seuclid king in control of an empire.

The city was subsequently attacked and reconquered by Jonathan the Hasmonean during 145 BCE (1 Macc. 11:61-62).

During the Hasmonean civil war, the city was taken by Alexander Janneaeus in 96 BCE. The Roman Pomey restored the city and Galbinus, also a Roman official, rebuilt the city (circa 57 BCE).

King Herod the Great held the city for a short time, but after his death, it came under the authority of the Roman proconsul of Syria. It flourished as a Roman city and remained a center for the Jewish community and the emerging Christian community throughout the Roman era (963 BCE through 324 CE), and continued into the Byzantine period, 324 CE through 1453 CE.

According to the Karaite Sahl ben Mazli'ah, Gaza, Tiberias and Zoar were the three centers of pilgrimages in Eretz Yisrael during the Byzantine period.

Gaza, a fertile plain, rich in fruits, wheat and vineyards, was the site of three main fairs in Roman-occupied Palestine.

In a great battle fought near Gaza in 635 CE, the Arabs vanquished the Byzantines; the city itself fell soon afterward. It remained the seat of the governor of the Negev, as is known from the Nessana Papyri. In the eighth century, R. Moses, one of the Masorites, lived there. The Judean and Samarian communities of the Jewish people flourished under Arab rule.

Then, again, there were a succession of attackers, conquerors and occupiers of Jewish Gaza.

King Baldwin I of Jerusalem occupied the city, which was known in Crusader occupation times as Gadres. From the time of Baldwin III (1152 CE), it was a Templar stronghold. In 1170, it fell to Saladin. Under Mamluk occupation and rule, Gaza was capital of a district (mamlaka) embracing the whole coastal plain up to Athlit. After the destruction of Gaza by the Crusaders, the Jewish community ceased to exist.

In the eleventh century, a man known as Rabbi Ephraim of Gaza was head of the community of Fostat (old Cairo).

Nothing more was heard about Gaza until the 14th century. Meshullam of Volterra found 60 Jewish householders there during 1481 CE. All the wine of Gaza was produced by the Jews (A.M. Luncz, in Yerushalayim, 1918). Obadiah of Bertinoro records that when he was there in 1488, Gaza's rabbi was a certain Moses of Prague who had come from Jerusalem (Zwei Briefe, ed. by A. Neubeuer, 1863).

Gaza flourished under Ottoman rule. The Jewish community was once again flourishing and prosperous during the 16th and 17th centuries.

The Karaite Samuel ben David found a Rabbanite synagogue there in 1641 (Ginzei Yisrael be-St. Petersburg, ed. by J. Gurland, 1865). In the 16th century, there was a bet din and a yeshiva in Gaza. Some of its rabbis wrote scholarly works. Farm-owners were obliged to observe the laws of terumah (priestly tithe), ma'aserot (tithes) and the sabbatical year.

At the end of the 16th century, the Najara family supplied some of Gaza's rabbis. Israel Najara, son of the Damascus Rabbi Moses Najara, author of the Zemirot Yisrael, was Chief Rabbi of Gaza and president of the bet din in the mid 17th century.

In 1665, on the occasion of Shabbtai Zevi's visit to Gaza, the city became a center of the messianic movement. One of his principle disciples was Nathan of Gaza.

The city of Gaza was briefly militarily occupied once again, this time by Napoleon in 1799.

In the 19th century, the city of Gaza declined. The Jews that were concentrated there were mostly barley merchants. They bartered with the Bedouins for barley, which they exported to the beer breweries of Europe.

Gaza was a Turkish stronghold during World War I. Two British attacks made on Gaza during 1916-17 failed and it was finally taken during a flanking movement by Allenby. Under British Mandatory occupation and rule, Gaza developed slowly. The last Jews living in Gaza left the town as result of the Arab anti-Jewish disturbances and massacres that took place during 1929.

In 1946, Gaza's population was estimated at 19,500, all Muslim except for 720 Christians.

During Israel's defensive War of Independence, when five Arab armies invaded the reestablished Jewish homeland with the intent of its annihilation, the invading Egyptian army attacked, conquered and occupied Gaza. (That occupation lasted from May 1948 through June 1967, when Egypt again attacked, intent on annihilating the only Jewish homeland in the world from the map. Israel defeated its attackers and reconquered its rightful land.)

The town, together with the newly created Gaza Strip, was put under Egyptian administration by the armistice agreement of 1949. The influx of Arab refugees, who were told by the Arab aggressors that they could soon return after the Jews "were driven into the sea," later swelled the city's population at least fourfold. Bear in mind that most of the Arabs living in Eretz Yisrael at the time only came in the middle to late 1920s to escape economic hardship and political persecution by their own people.

The 1967 census showed that 87,793 Arab inhabitants and settlers lived in Gaza City proper, while only 30,479 lived in the refugee camp created by the Arabs' call for the annihilation of the Jewish nation-state. The latter lived within the municipal boundaries of Gaza. Of this number, 1,649 were Christians and the rest were Muslims.

Now, we can compare this with the number of Egypt's Jews who were forcibly expelled in the "Forgotten Exodus", whose properties were confiscated, who were brutally beaten, robbed, tortured and sometimes murdered.

More ancient evidence to consider.

In 1965, a mosaic pavement was discovered by the Egyptian Department of Antiquities. This mosaic, dated 508/9, was uncovered on the seashore of Gaza's harbor. Its figures include one of King David as Orpheus, dressed in Byzantine royal garments and playing the harp. The name "David" in Hebrew letters appears above it. A Greek inscription at the center of the floor, which mentions the names of two donors (Menahem and Jesse) of the mosaic to the "holy place" and the name David, testifies that a synagogue stood there.

In 1967, A. Ovadiah excavated the area and discovered a synagogue from the sixth century CE.

Archaeological evidence supports the Biblical premise of a continuous Jewish presence in Gaza, from the late Bronze Period until the Byzantine Period (circa 1500 BCE through 632 CE).

Evidence of a considerable Jewish presence in Gaza during the Talmudic period is provided also by a relief of a menorah, a shofar, a lulav and an etrog, which appears on a pillar of the Great Mosque of Gaza, along with various Hebrew and Greek inscriptions.

Despite the fact that there have been many foreign occupations of Gaza, the territory belongs to the Jewish people.

There can be no honest dispute who this land belongs to Biblically, historically, legally, morally, and rightfully - the Children of Israel.

Gary Fitleberg is a political analyst specializing in International Relations with emphasis on Middle East affairs. This article was an opinion piece July 8, 2005 in Arutz Sheva (www.IsraelNN.com)

What an ignorant turd!
The country that is populated by monkeys and pigs has defeated combined Muslim armies 3 times with conventional weapons. Now in the age of nuclear weapons, this same country has a significant stockpile of said nuclear weapons. What do you really think is going to happen even if the Muslim armies attacking said country arise out of their 7th century level of incompetance to defeat this country?
Its going to turn the Middle-East to a large sheet of glowing glass.
You are suffering from typical Muslim delusions.
Go beat your wife for awhile, screw the family goat, bang your head on the floor but your not going to kick Israel's ass.

“Whosoever gives away a hand span of Islamic land Allah will grant him an equal hand span in Hell.” Hadith

Clearly pure demonism. If a civilization is confronted by such evil and refuses to annihilate it, the ensuing destruction of that civilization will have been deserved.

If you can't be bothered reading all of the Koran, at least read this chapter - 8:The Spoils of War.

[Link: www.skepticsannotatedbible.com...]

Specially for all those eejits who like to say that Jihad isn't actually about fighting.

More articles such as these need to be put in front of U.S. mainstream voters, so they might take note of what is being written and preached in these mosques and islamic websites. Cindy Sheehan of course would say... go ahead and let Muslims destroy Israel. Just so long as I can keep my head in the sand and keep believing in some half witted idea that appeasement is the answer to the worlds problems. Hey llady... don't you get it? They want you destroyed !

Bravo, Blair for declaring war on both the terrorists, the rhetoric AND the ideology as well. This is not a religion, it is a barbaric, neanderthal view of the world that promotes genocide of jews and christians as a rallying cry!

Thanks LGF for continuing to uncover articles such as these so the rest of us can share with our readers just what the radical jihadist ideology represents!

---
ZZ Bachman / ZardozZ News & Satire Portal
Have a Blog? Ring Surf it @ ZZ OpenRing

Makes us Jews all teary and sentimental for the days of of the Inquisitions. Become a Christian or die. Become a muslim or die.

So much choice!

How about, I want to stay Jewish and let the the other motherf***s follow what ever they choose?

I thought that the Jews were in the Holy Land thousands of years before that cult was hatched.
where did I go wrong?

#20 Engineer:

Probably and that would be very bad. Saudi Arabia has 50% of the world's oil production.

Check Saudi and OPEC oil production here:

[Link: www.eia.doe.gov...]

World production is in table 1.3.

World petroleum production has risen about 31% from 1973 (58.47 million barrels per day -mbd) to 76.58 mbd in 2003. Of that, non-OPEC production has risen from 27.51 mbd in 1973 to 46.26 mbd in 2003 (68%). OPEC share has been flat, going from 30.95 mbd in 1973 to 30.32 mbd in 2003. Saudi share has been highly variable over the years. In recent years it was as low as 7.2 mbd in 2002, but has increased to as much as 9.6 mbd in 2005. Saudi production is clearly important at 32% of OPEC production. Bear in mind that that is 12% of world petroleum production. Further bear in mind that petroleum production is probably about 35-40% of total energy production (including natural gas, coal, nuclear, hydro, etc.). Remember also that considerable quantities of petroleum are burned to produce electricity in electric power station, which could be converted to burn other fuels (coal, natural gas, etc.). A total loss of Saudi production would clearly cause significant short term problems. Nevertheless, let's not play into the hands of our enemies. Let's not exagerate.

#45 transferthem 8/21/2005 03:26PM PDT

Makes us Jews all teary and sentimental for the days of of the Inquisitions. Become a Christian or die. Become a muslim or die.

So much choice!

How about, I want to stay Jewish and let the the other motherf***s follow what ever they choose?

I'm a Christian. Won't appologize for the horror that was the Inquisition because that was so long ago and was also counter to true Chrisrian values. However, I see your point.

How about this: I'll call your "How about" and raise you this one: You stay Jewish, I stay Christian, we watch each others' backs, and we waste any motherf***s who want to force either of us to change to any other religion or cult? Same for any other religion that does not want to kill us unless we convert. Deal?

Oh, BTW, as far as I'm concerned, submitting to dhimmi status is converting. Not acceptable. In other words, over my dead body.

I really miss allahpundit

-ron