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Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 7:50:37 am PDT

The Toronto Star’s resident Islamist, Haroon Siddiqi, has a disgusting article in which Arab Canadians complain that only they can be victims—and that only Palestinians deserve sympathy: Who will weep for Palestinians? (Hat tip: Randall.)

Raja G. Khouri, Toronto. A Christian born in Lebanon to parents who lost their homes in Palestine in 1948, he is a former president of the Canadian Arab Federation and the author of Arabs in Canada: Post 9/11.

“An Israeli settler screamed at reporters: `You don’t know what it’s like to be driven out of your home and not be allowed to return to your land.’ I do. Millions of Palestinians do.

”Leaving Gaza rids Israel of 35 per cent of Palestinians living on 6 per cent of Israeli-occupied land. Keeping the land and getting rid of the people has always been the Israeli way.

“By maximizing control over as much Palestinian land with as few Palestinians as possible, Israel minimizes the `demographic threat’ — the growing number of Muslims and Christians living in Israel and the territories it controls.

”While the 8,500 Gaza settlers will be handsomely compensated, about 55,000 Palestinians in Jerusalem are being separated from their schools, hospital, jobs and places of worship by the wall, with no consideration for their rights and livelihood, let alone the right to compensation.

“As it encroaches into the West Bank and Jerusalem, the wall increases land on the Israeli side while leaving Palestinian populations in fragmented cantons.

”Even if some version of a Palestinian state does emerge, it will lack water resources, arable land, contiguity, economic viability and the means to control its destiny. I can’t help but feel that Palestinian national aspirations are doomed.”

The mean-spirited vindictiveness of these comments is almost unbelievable, but Siddiqi apparently thinks he’s portraying these people in a sympathetic light.

UPDATE at 8/25/05 8:35:46 am:

LGF reader Spiritualized reminds me that Raja Khouri has been featured at LGF before, defending Hizballah.

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1 Liz Ard  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 5:51:58am

Disgusting indeed.

2 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 5:54:29am
3 bouzouki  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 5:55:26am
"Keeping the land and getting rid of the people..."

Hmmm...now THERE's a thought.

4 acwgusa  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 5:56:03am

I snorted hot chocolate out my nose at the headline. That hurt.

Oh, and Paleos? You had no land to begin with. Deal with it.

5 keepandbear  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 5:56:25am

Well I'm a white male

nobody ever cry's for me so my feelings are

STFU whining bastard

6 Endangered in Mass  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 5:56:37am

Can someone direct me to a map from 1948 that shows the country of Palestine?

7 blackbeard  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 5:56:50am

when will it end?

8 Ann  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 5:56:52am
”While the 8,500 Gaza settlers will be handsomely compensated, about 55,000 Palestinians in Jerusalem are being separated from their schools, hospital, jobs and places of worship by the wall, with no consideration for their rights and livelihood, let alone the right to compensation.


Leeches. Maybe if your leaders didn't skim all of the aid you could build your own society.

9 doorstop  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 5:57:05am

The scarier part is that this huge mass of Al-Queda and Hamas supporting Mohammedans live right across our border, and in fact within our borders, and are actively working to impose Sharia upon us - and our media is generally embracing this and covering up the 'embarrassing' parts.

10 zygazint  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 5:57:51am

The world believes what it wants to believe regardless of the facts to the contrary. Hatred exists because people want to hate. Thanks to non-stop Taqiyah practicing jihadi's and a world willing to scapegoat the Jews I'm sure only a divine intervention will end this madness. I've given up on 'people' 'getting it'...opposable thumbs haven't seem to do much for our species...we're more dense than the forests we may have evolved out of...

11 tankdemon  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 5:58:12am
I can’t help but feel that Palestinian national aspirations are doomed."

One can only hope.

12 Bubbaman  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 5:59:23am

What do you expect from a cretin, the product of inbreeding? (a very intriguing article)!

13 Earth2moonbat  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 5:59:56am

They're stomping on the victim pedal, because that's all they have, and it has paid out in the past. Ignore.

14 zygazint  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:00:31am

Just to set the factual and historical record straight, the Philistines were a Mediterranean seafaring nation that is completely extinct today. They are not one and the same people as the Arab nation and people calling themselves "Palestinians" today. These Arabs are the descendants of Ishmael. The name "Palestine" and "Palestinians" evolved from the name Philistia, which was given to the area by the Roman conquerors as an insult to the Jewish people (named for the tribe of Judah and area of Judea). The name has been hijacked by the Arabs to lay a false claim to a land that does not belong to them Biblically, historically, legally, morally or rightfully.

In Gaza, the famous saga of Samson and his miraculous feats of strength took place. Samson perished in the Temple of Dagon while slaughtering his enemies (Judges 16). With the weakening of Egyptian support for the Philistines, the enemy finally submitted to David, who slew the giant Goliath in battle (II Sam. 5:25).

The Philistines, a distinct people, are also now extinct.

Let us now return to recounting the historical facts regarding Gaza.

Gary Fitleberg is a political analyst specializing in International Relations with emphasis on Middle East affairs. This article was an opinion piece July 8, 2005 in Arutz Sheva (www.IsraelNN.com)

15 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:01:19am

OT,

Michael Ledeen appraises the Iraqi Constitution

I just wanted to call attention to the performance of the Iraqi people, without whom no amount of brilliant diplomacy, and no endless nagging about deadlines, would have brought the country to the point where they seem likely to adopt a revolutionary (at least in Middle East context) constitution, that gives political authority to the people, guarantees equal rights for women and minorities, and creates a fairly decentralized federal republic. Every tyrant in the region must be gnashing his teeth, cause if that catches on, well, it's gonna be very bad for them.

(via NRO's The Corner, scroll down for quotes from Peter Galbraith and Reuel Marc Gerecht...)

16 Gagdad Bob  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:02:57am

The problem is, even if some version of a Palestinian state does emerge, it will be full of Palestinians.

17 Kragar (Proud to be kafir)  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:03:01am
I can’t help but feel that Palestinian national aspirations are doomed.

At least there was some good news in the article.

18 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:03:46am

#2 American Infidel

Vacated voluntarily because their Arab bretheren called on them to leave because Israel was going to be pushed into the sea...

This is never repeated enough.
They left to allow the sorrounding arab countries to unleash a general attack against Israel.
They left...to kill all the Israelis.

This is the origin of the problem.

And the arab countries tried again, in 1956, in 1967, in the Seventies...

Without its military might, and the help of G*d, Israel wouldn't be there and we would be mourning the Second Shoa.

NEVER FORGIVE, NEVER FORGET

19 bouzouki  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:05:12am

#16 Gagdad Bob

The problem is, even if some version of a Palestinian state does emerge, it will be full of Palestinians.

Once again proving that all good humour is based on truth.

20 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:05:27am

The "Balestinian national aspiration" is to kill all the Jews.

21 Gagdad Bob  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:05:30am

Canidiotanians.

22 Dirk Diggler  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:06:55am
“An Israeli settler screamed at reporters: `You don’t know what it’s like to be driven out of your home and not be allowed to return to your land.’ I do. Millions of Palestinians do.

And the world's tiniest violin is playing just for you and the so-called "Palestinians".

23 David Simon  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:06:59am
Keeping the land and getting rid of the people has always been the Israeli way.

Said without the slightest trace of irony. Jews have been cleansed from Arab lands, while Arabs prosper in the only Jewish country. That fact is conveniently buried again.

24 TalkinKamel  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:07:48am

The Palestinians get no tears from me---not after I saw them dancing on our graves, on 9/11.

(And if they can't control their own economy, arable land, water, destiny, etc., maybe, they really aren't a nation, and we should stop the silly "let's pretend!" game that they are.)

25 RaiderDan  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:09:02am

Like we all know, the Palestinians will never be satisfied until Israel is gone and the Jews are pushed into the sea. No other amount of concessions will change that. You can't negotiate with a people who refuse your right to exist.

The Palestinians are smart of course to play the left-wing's favorite cards of victimhood and racism, which of course appeals to the liberal Western guilt mentality, but thats because they have nothing else.

Israel just keeps making the mistake of beating the Arabs militarily in 1948, 1956, 1967 and 1973. Of course, failure was not an option back then but the Jewish state lost its status as ``victim'' in 1981 (IDF strike on Iraq's nuclear reactor) and more so in 1982 during the invasion of Lebanon, even though destroying the PLO, who was sworn to Israel's destruction, was in Israel's long term interest

The Western world's mistaken sympathy for the Palestinian terrorist death cult is just a side effect of Israel's continued success, economically, culturally, and politically.

Should the Western world make the mistake of successfully branding Israel as an ``international parariah'' with the requisite boycotts and loss of U.S. aid, it will simply be telling the Israeli government that they have nothing to lose in attacking Tehran's nuclear capacity.

Keep it up Mr. Khouri...

26 Powderfinger  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:09:06am
”Leaving Gaza rids Israel of 35 per cent of Palestinians living on 6 per cent of Israeli-occupied land.

Without doing the math, this looks like the "All of Israel is occupied Palestine" meme. How much of Canada are you occupying, you Jew haiting dirtbag?

”Even if some version of a Palestinian state does emerge, it will lack water resources, arable land, contiguity, economic viability and the means to control its destiny. I can’t help but feel that Palestinian national aspirations are doomed."

It will also lack sanity, motivation and good will and oil. That's why it's already doomed.

27 MJ  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:09:09am

"but Siddiqi apparently thinks he’s portraying these people in a sympathetic light."

Actually, all Siddiqi has to write is that these people are not Jews and are infact enemies of Jews and much the world will be sympathetic to their cause.
It's called antisemitism.

28 zygazint  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:09:18am

#23

That doesn't matter to the LLL or Islamanazi's - their response to that is that an israeli-arab can't vote...etc..ad nauseum...they'll never ever ever admit that the Jewish people have a right to live let alone a right to a 'homeland'...I'm not in a very faithful mood today, evidently, sorry to bring you all down...

29 Maine's Michael  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:11:15am
”Even if some version of a Palestinian state does emerge, it will lack water resources, arable land, contiguity, economic viability and the means to control its destiny. I can’t help but feel that Palestinian national aspirations are doomed."

Well, it won;t be viable becasue the british gave away 75% of 'palestine' to the hashenites, from the arabian peninsula.

Also, the 'palestinians' are total fuck-ups, haroon, and couldn't navigate their way out of a paper bag without blowing it up.

ANyhow, it is this line of reasoning that will ensure the palestinians remain a ball and chain on ISrael.

There is no such thing as 'disengagement' from this death embrace, as far as the arabs and their supporters in the world are concerned.

30 Mike in Boulder  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:11:52am

Who will weep?

Certainly not their Arab brethren who benefit from keeping them impoverished and held out as victims so they can blame Israel and US policies and avoid any accountability of their own tyrannical and oppressive regimes.

No the “elected Palestinians” that will embezzle millions from the UN, US and EU while making sure that, what little of it their own people will see, will be used to print hateful textbooks that will be used to fill the minds of their children with hate.

Not Hamas. Whose crazed death cult will create bombs to be delivered by their children.

Not Europe. Who will point to any wrongdoing by Israel to justify Palestinian violence and assuage years of guilt over the Holocaust.

31 peach  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:13:33am

Without their victimhood, Palestinians would have nothing. No identity, no bond, nothing.

32 big L  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:14:19am

Also no one mentions the thousands of acres of land bought from the absentee owners in the Thirties. Land sales were going so fast for the 'lousy' land that Balfour (iirc), the english p.m. was called on to slow it down by the local arab calif or chieftain.
Land bought fair and square.

33 tankdemon  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:14:28am

If Isreal is ever "Pushed into the sea" like the Palis all desire, will even that lead to the establishment of a Palestinian state? I think that the land would be overtaken by Syria, Jordan and Egypt, with the "poor" palis still relegated to their beggar status.

34 Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:14:31am

Who will weep for Palestinians?

Not me.

35 Sandy P  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:14:57am

Maybe if he got of his rear and actually DID something instead of weep...

36 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:14:58am

Just recently had a Canadian lefty tell me that he was happy to hear that Al-Jihad (or Al-Jazeera to everybody else) will soon have an English speaking station available in Canada. His reason why this was good? Because now, he claims, they'll be able to hear the Arab point of view, instead of the "biased" American news.

To any Lizards who live in Canada: Get out while you still can.

37 mustrum  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:15:21am
Even if some version of a Palestinian state does emerge, it will lack water resources, arable land, contiguity, economic viability and the means to control its destiny. I can’t help but feel that Palestinian national aspirations are doomed

Couldn't it just be that the Palis are incapable (to date at least) of building and running a state effectively? They had 1600 years to do so, and it still hasn't happened.

They lash out at others because they see themselves as they are: demoralised, uneducated and generally a failure.

The real sad part is that it DOESN'T have to be this way, but they must face their demons first. If not, what is will continue to be.

My $0.02 USD.

38 Beagle  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:15:39am
Israel minimizes the `demographic threat’ — the growing number of Muslims and Christians [puh-leeze, don't drag the beleagured few remaining Christians into this mess] living in Israel and the territories it controls


Which is freakin' brilliant if you ask me. You wanted the land, you got the land. Now enjoy your state filled with drooling, inbred killers.

39 RickZ  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:16:22am

# 24 TalkinKamel:

"let's pretend!"

The mantra of the UN.

40 loaded dice  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:17:12am

Was I sleeping? I must have missed something. Oh that's right offenders are victims--victims are offenders---white is black---bad is good---up is down---we have always been at war with East Asia...YAHHH (not a Deaniac Scream) I can't stand listening to such *&^%$%%.

41 Spiritualized  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:19:06am

Look at the people this terrorist-apologist asked, regular everyday Arabs, right?

“It is supremely ironic and shameful that elected MPs and human rights [are not allowed] to enter a public university, but that a war criminal is [considered] A-OK,” Concordia student Leila Khaled Mouammar told the crowd, referring to Netanyahu.

Netanyahu, a war criminal? Stupid cow. She's a hardcore activist, just Google her name.

Sarah Karmi - Forensic anthropologist specializing in documenting human rights violations and war crimes committed against Palestinians; Co-ordinating Committee, Solidarity for Palestinian Human Rights (Toronto Region).

And the last one? Has already been featured on an LGF post:

Raja Khouri, the Arab federation president, said if Hezbollah was deemed to threaten Canadian security, it should be banned. However, he added that there was no public evidence to support the move. He also said there was little evidence Hezbollah had engaged in terrorism.
42 Smitty  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:20:28am

Who will weep for the Palestinians?
Why, the Zerb will, of course...

43 MoonbatBane  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:21:08am
”Even if some version of a Palestinian state does emerge, it will lack water resources, arable land, contiguity, economic viability and the means to control its destiny. I can’t help but feel that Palestinian national aspirations are doomed."

I mean, if they can't steal what the eeevil Israeli Jooos have made, how can they be expected to do anything? For example, digging a decent well is 8th century tech, way too advanced for the poor Palistinians, who are stuck in the 7th century...

44 Van Impe  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:21:08am
"But millions of Palestinian refugees have been in exile for decades. Many are destitute. They have no status. Many are in the Israeli-occupied areas where no one cares about their suffering, humiliation and continued dispossession.

Following WWII there were millions of "displaced persons" in Europe. It took at least a deade for the DPs to be re-settled. A similar approach could have been taken with the Palestinians to re-settle them in neigboring Arab countries. However, this approach was rejected by the Palestinian leadership, Arab leaders and the UNHCR. Instead their approach was to "wait out" Israel and remain as "refugees". This approach failed miserably and nearly 60 years later the Paletinians and their offspring still claim to be refugees. For this they only have themselves to blame, along with the UNHCR.

45 MoonbatBane  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:21:31am

oh yeah, I forgot: /sarc

But it wasn't really needed, was it?

46 Maine's Michael  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:23:37am

I don;t know what harooon is complaingin about though.

Montreal is no arab-occupied land.

And, it has a much better restaurant scene than gaza.

47 Maine's Michael  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:23:58am

Montreal is NOW arab-occupied land.

48 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:24:49am
49 American Infidel[deleted]  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:25:19am
50 mustrum  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:27:51am

#48 Buzz.

You are wrong about that. Arab terrorism began in the 8th century, when they were given carte blanche by that sheep dipper.

51 mikeytrix  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:30:06am

No one will weep for the arabs. Just like no one wept for the Nazis. They have been on the wrong side of every war, on the wrong side of history. They have done nothing in their history to improve themselves domestically or abroad.
Haroon can get away with this because he knows that it sells papers in Toronto. Islamists can't wait to get their hands on his columns.
It's really pathetic that the Toronto Star can print this stuff. The problem is the Star is distorting the picture of the middle-east to many Canadians. This in turn contributes to Canada being more anti-semetic and debases Canadian morality.

52 Loch Inkopf  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:33:50am

Just a thought: in the 1930's, the Palestinian Arabs staged a terrorist revolt against the British Mandate and (of course) the Jews. Whilst they were about it, they attacked and killed a lot of their own people in an effort to intimidate them into joining in. About half of the Arab population simply fled to the surrounding countries - Transjordan, Lebanon, etc. The British finally got their act together and put down the revolt with the sort of harshness that would have the world screamng blue murder if the Israelis ever did it. Fot example, they sent a convoy of lorries loaded with dynamite to Jenin and flattened every single building. The Arabs who had fled came back after the revolt was over, only to flee again eleven years later. They had no feeling of nationhood then or in 1948, nothing to keep them in place or fight for, and above all, they had somewhere to run to.
Which begs the question which no-one ever seems to ask: in the fighting in 1948, the Jews took casualties that were the pro rata equivalent of the British casualties in World War 1 - and that in ten months of warfare inflicted on a people already horrifyingly depleted by the Holocaust. So - why didn't the Jews run? You know the answer and so do I, but it's about time the question was asked more often in the context of whose homeland it is and how much of a case the "Palestinian refugees" really have.

53 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:35:55am
54 foreign devil  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:40:01am

I just fired off an email to Haroon saying if the Palestinians ever grew up they wouldn't need someone to 'weep' for them. They continue to indulge in excess and violence and have only themselves to blame.

55 hornet  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:40:03am

In 1948, "Palestine" and "Palestinians" did not exist. You Arabs never cry for the "Palestinians", it is about time you started, you Jew-hating deceived, deluded people. Israel will last forever by the strong right hand of G-d Almighty. Arabs realise this and are miphed, upset. G-d chose the Jewish to live in the land of Israel forever. If you are upset, tell G-d, not us. You (Arabs) must change from hatred to love. Your hatred for your own "Palestinian" brothers has allowed this whole situation to fester for 57 years. You (Arabs) should help your "Palestinian" brothers take care of themselves, not encourage them with demonic hate to rob, kill, murder and destroy the Jewish people. Not one mention of pali terrorist suicide bombers in that article, which is filled with lies. Change Arabs, only you can decide to search for and see the light, that is not our job.

56 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:41:46am
57 Maine's Michael  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:43:17am

Email this guy with your thoughts:

hsiddiq@thestar.ca

58 Alouette  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:43:52am

#55 hornet

In 1948, "Palestine" and "Palestinians" did not exist.

Well technically they did, if you consider that before 1948 only Jews called themselves "Palestinians" and their homeland "Palestine."

59 Ariel  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:49:40am

Check out this map. My best guess is that Gaza is not six percent of Yesha (Judea, Samaria, and Gaza) but that it's six percent of Israel including Yesha. As usual, we can see what they mean by Israeli-occupied lands.

60 Maine's Michael  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:49:58am

Txt of message sent to Mr. sidiqui:

Who will weep for Palestinians?

Certainly not the other arabs, who have kept them in abject misery for close to half a century.

Charity begins at home, Haroon.

As for viability, you are correct. The West Bank and Gaza can never be viable, even if the palestinains were as talented, uncorrupted, and industrious as the dutch (which they are not).

Perhaps you should look to the british, who gave away 75% of 'palestine' to carpetbagging 'hashemites', leaving the jews and arabs to squabble about the remaing 25%.

Two viable states could have been set up.

Anyhow, you may want to see what some intelligent people are saying about your lates example of pathetic victimhood:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

61 mustrum  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:51:29am

#57 Maine's Michael

Email him yes, tell him how wrong he is, but remember the following axiom:

Don't get into an argument with an idiot.
First, he will bring you down to his level, and second, he will beat you because he's got more experience.

Besides, Torstar has taken over the baton from the old Soviet "Krasnaya Zvezda" (Red Star). The reason it's more expensive is that translation costs money.

62 EW1(SG)  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 6:56:24am
I can’t help but feel that Palestinian national aspirations are doomed.

tankdemon beat me to it at #11.

#16 Gagdad Bob:

The problem is, even if some version of a Palestinian state does emerge, it will be full of Palestinians.

Ever succinct.

63 Haiku  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 7:07:31am

#55 hornet

What you wrote is the absolute truth unfortunately the msm is only too happy to satisfy the Arab delusions about a "Palestinian" homeland. Does anyone remember the essay "I am a "Palestinian?" It was reprinted in lgf several times. I need to show it someone who really needs an education on the "Palestinian" people.

64 westbankmama  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 7:12:11am

Katyusha rocket fired at the Galiliee, mortars at Sderot...

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

The Israelis are "thinking over" what response, if any, is warranted.

Where are all of the "experts" who predicted that as soon as the Jews are out, THEN, THEN ISRAEL WILL REALLY ATTACK...?

/bitter and angry as hell

I spent the morning making a paper mache elephant with a clingy ten year old who doesn't know where she will live in another five days, let alone what school she will go to. She is living in a dormitory for girls with her family and the rest of the village of Katif.

Our village has "adopted" them and we organized activities for the kids this morning. In addition to arts and crafts, the boys had basketball games and we had a clown perform.

65 deanyc  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 7:14:57am

Since when were Arabs the victims?
Was it in Egypt, 3000 years ago?
Was it in Nazi Germany?

When? Where?

66 guru  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 7:31:26am

Haroon the buffoon is a left wing writer for the farthest left wing rag in all of Canada. A huge US basher whom I've tarred and feathered with a few emails about his broken religion. The Star is an increasingly embarrassing rag that is now approaching the level of the CBC. Galloway would love it here in Toronto, an increasingly putrid city...and a place I was once very proud of until far left wack jobs infiltrated. Toronto is a joke and losers like Haroon the Goon reflect just that.

67 the varmint  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 7:58:21am

Good morning all,just feeling that i have to defend(or apologize for) my country.So here goes:#21 Gagdad Bob-not all of us are.#36 Target Practice-do the same to our lefties as you do to yours,i.e.-ignore,satirize,vilify.#47 Maine's Micheal-tooo true.#51 Mikeytrix-I sometimes think the star wrote the original guidelines for the MSM.#54 Foreign Devil-useless,he sees it as hatemail and will complain(whine).#66 guru-I agree.

68 Pro-Bush Canuck  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 8:16:27am

I have on occaision corresponded personally with Haroon Siddiqui since immediately after 9/11. He is an apologist for Islamism who is extremely adept at exploting the useful idiots at the leftist Toronto Star. A sworn and bitter enemy of the United States, this man typifies the public face of the Islamist menace on this continent.

If any US government types read this: take it from me, you do NOT want to allow this man in your country.

69 Endangered in Mass  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 8:55:58am

"lost their home in Palestine in 1948"

I asked earlier if if someone could direct me to a map with Palestine on it circa 1948.


Was there ever such a state?

70 Pro-Bush Canuck  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 9:27:11am

The inimitable Wretchard captures the essence of this phenomenon by comparing it to the course of malignant cancer in the human body:

One of the most far-reaching benefits to Al Qaedaism of its alliance with the Left is how easily it allowed it to move astride the media, the academe and the liberal religious establishment. The information disease infiltrating the information stream of its victim. Not only does this feed Islamic militancy, in a process analogous to angiogenesis, it also puts its core code, which contains the instructions to reproduce and destroy, beyond the reach of counter-information under the banner of political correctness. Truly the perfect storm. link

71 Millie Woods  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 9:53:58am

Maine's Michael, thanks for the darling boy's e-mail address. I sent him the following:
There is a parable in the bible about motes and beams and I think it would be appropriate if you and all your Arab brethren read it.
You rant anti-semitically blaming the Jews for all your own shortcomings. Meanwhile you neglect to point out Islamic aggression in India, Thailand and the Philippines. How are the Jews/Israelis responsible for that and for the sort of Islam on Islam murderous activity which took place recently in Bangladesh.
It's time you stopped your anti-semitic raving and turned your energy to your enormous problems of non-achievement, high criminality and genetically induded disease and mental incapacity.
You should be thankful that you are tolerated in a country like Canada instead of being shunned like lepers. So don't overplay your hand by attacking Canadians of Jewish origin who make real contributions and give to their nation instead of endlessly taking and then demanding more like you and your compatriots.
Millie Woods

72 Armyo3  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 9:56:01am
”While the 8,500 Gaza settlers will be handsomely compensated, about 55,000 Palestinians in Jerusalem are being separated from their schools, hospital, jobs and places of worship by the wall, with no consideration for their rights and livelihood, let alone the right to compensation.

Handsomely compensated? They're living in f'ing tents right now.

73 mustrum  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 10:03:32am

#72

Tents? That is handsomely compensated indeed. After all we could have been blowing them up instead.
//Siddiqi (See Dicky?) thought process

What a bunch of asshats.

74 Khouri  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 10:47:30am

I'm so weary of seeing Khouris, especially Christians, towing the line of Palestinian victimhood from their comfortable homes in the West, especially after what Muslims have done to Lebanese Christians in the last century and a half, and even more so after what the late dictator Assad did to the Khouris of Lebanon after a Syrian Khouri spoke out against him.

None of this makes the news, but Khouris with a screw loose always do.

75 Pitiricus  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 11:15:15am

If you don't agree, you can send an e-mail to the author (he provided it)...

76 wannabe  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 11:19:49am

man the poor Israelis are damned if they do, damned if they don't

they stay they are villains

they go they are villains

let Mr. Abbas prove he has some real leadership skills and let that aid money go into building Gaza up, instead of Swiss bank Accounts...where is the true Muslim brotherhood coming into to help the Palestinians get established or could it be that the Muslim brotherhood doesn't actually give a crap...and thinks the Pals are a bunch of thugs too?

look what the Israelis did with their very little piece of the pie (compared to the Arab and Muslim lands)...

instead of hating the Jews, maybe the Palestinians should ask the Israelis how to do it and fast...

but it is easier just to hate the Jews and blame all your ills on them, why take responsibility for your life...

77 Pitiricus  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 11:36:25am

#74

Isn't Khouri a lebanese name? Not a Platinian one from what I know...

78 timdiener  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 11:40:34am

HAROON SIDDIQUI

I won't weep on tear for those murderous, Jew-hating animals in
Gaza.

Try doing something other than hating Jews one time, and blaming
others for your problems, then maybe you'll get a listen. (I know,
personal responsibility isn't a popular notion in socialist Canada, though.
I guess it's only in the United States that people take responsibilty
for their own situations, and work to improve them. Must be convienent
to live in a culture where you can blame others for your own problems.
And get sympathy for it to boot.)

And I would suggest that you encourage those hate-animals to keep quiet
in their Gaza cage. Because you won't like the consequences that will
result from any missiles flying out of Gaza into Israel.

79 Khouri  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 11:53:32am

#77


Yes, Khouri is a Lebanese name, and most Khouris are Christian.

Many Khouris fled Lebanon in the late 1800's rather than submit and convert to Islam, since they had the means to do so. Many more died trying. Some, as my family, converted. As an adult, I have realized that my path is not the Islamic one, and I greatly admire the Jewish and Christian prophets and teachers, and the sublime and peaceful eastern philosophers.

I'm sure that the Creator will illuminate the proper path(s), as I attempt to be receptive to his messages of peace and renewal through a multitude of lights.

80 kirly  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 11:59:16am

Regarding Arab Christians...a few months back as I was reading LGF, I picked up a link to a rather long video. It was a Lebanese woman who was telling the story about her childhood. She has since become successful in the civilized world but her childhood was a nightmare. She told the story of how her parents stopped traveling to beirut for the holidays when she was still quite young. she learned later that it was because after Lebanon started to put your religion on your ID, the muslims set up roadblocks where they would demand your ID and then kill any Christians. She told the very graphic story of HOW the men were later found (which I won't repeat). She told stories about how the Lebanese (or the Syrians?) would shell Israel from just behind her house knowing full well that Israel would shell back and hit the homes. She also spoke of the Bible as it was printed and available to them ... it only included the New Testament. Nothing was ever taught about the Old (or Original) Testament, or about Jesus being Jewish, or about the Apostles being Jewish, or how it was Jews that preserved the scriptures that we now refer to as the New Testament. It was very enlightening and I wish I could find it again but I fear the link is lost forever.

That story is always upper most in my mind when my Lebanese Christian (now Canadian adults living in the US) try to say that both sides are equally bad/evil/wrong. They rarely come right out and condemn the Israelis without also condemning the muslims but it is so obvious that they have been taught to hate, or at least distrust, the Israelis/Jews. It's so sad since they profess to be Christian they ignore the fact that they WORSHIP a JEW!

81 massachusetts republican  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 1:22:09pm

Reason #1587 to still hate canada

82 transferthem  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 2:24:48pm

We now clearly see the phenomenon of mass psychosis throughout the arab and muslim world. This is very dangerous as the last time it happened we got hitler.

83 Caliphornian  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 3:03:38pm

I missed a couple things there in the article that goes with this thread. First, how is Israel STILL an occupying power, since they aren't there anymore? They don't OCCUPY, so it's not their responsibility anymore to provide for the Palis.


Second, I dont see why the Israeli's would wish to rid themselves of the Christian population. From what I've seen, THEY don't seem to be the ones splodeydoping all over the place.


C

84 Canuck  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 3:30:35pm

kirly,

I believe you are referring to Brigitte Gabriel.

She can be found at: [Link: americancongressfortruth.com...]

You can view a speech of hers here: [Link: www2.gsb.columbia.edu...]

85 Truth Dr.  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 3:45:33pm

Shouldn't be Haroon Siddiqui be on the bus to Crawford this weekend to interview more of his friends.

86 foreign devil  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 3:55:49pm

I sent a fairly pithy missive to Haroon earlier today pointing out that I had lost both my parents at the age of six and had no siblings or relatives...who would weep for me? My point was that if the Palestinians ever grew up and took responsibility for their own destinies and stopped whining and complaining they wouldn't always be blaming others for their excesses and violence.

He wrote back just now: "Thank you for reading and responding". MORON!

87 foreign devil  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 4:11:26pm

Here is the video of Brigitte Gabriel you were referring to from Phyllis Chesler's site. She was hosting it...I don't know if she still is.

[Link: www.phyllis-chesler.com...]

Just checked it...it's working fine!

88 jimgoism  Thu, Aug 25, 2005 5:10:54pm

Islam is the reason of ALL the middle easts problems..

Mohammed(Piss be on his nasty dead ass)
and the koran / islam has caused.

Massive death could be from all the islamic terrorists.

Massive unemployment (islamic wakos) blowing up everything in site doesnt do an economy any good.

Massive rape / incest / child molesting
Mohammed (piss be on his nasty dead ass)
was well known to rape children (girls and boys) and was very fond of raping captives in front of their families before he butchered all of them leaving to woman as a sex slave to mohammeds perverted wishes.

Disease (well mohammed said) drink camel urine and all the disease will just go away..

Social unrest (since islam is from SATAN) and is against anything that is right or Holy this includes governments, so islamic wakos blow them up.

Water (see above without a functioning government) no one pumps the water...

Freedom (in islam what are you kidding) with freedom comes innovation and inventions.

YOu cannot Name 1 thing WORTHWHILE that was invented by ANY muslim in the last 1000 years...

America and Israel invented a lot of the stuff you muslims use..

Islam the religion of pieces
Only for
Creeps
Looser
rapists
child molesters
mass murders

Islam SUCKS!

89 foreign devil  Fri, Aug 26, 2005 11:52:49am

Update: Friday Aug. 26/2005

I just received an email from Haroon Sidiqui who asked for permission to publish an excerpt from my letter. I'll watch to see if he does and post a link when they finally print it.


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