Glad to see we're all coming together.

The voters will remember what these people did in a time of human tragedy.

If there is one thing that I am still confident in, its that the American people are some of the best BS detectors in the world. Leftists are not the only ones listening to what is being said by the media, and the more they do this, the less they will win come 08.

I say go hard lefty nutters. Go hard.

Which party do the looters belong to?

Isn't it amazing that the only people who are talking about victims being Democrats or Republicans or black or white are leftists?

The people doing the hard, dangerous work of saving lives aren't asking these questions. The people sending money and goods aren't asking these questions. The people taking in strangers to their communities and their homes aren't asking these questions.

They are helping their fellow Americans. The rest, that's just details and fodder for perverted minds.

It's sickening. I can only hope once the situation is stablilized there's a reckoning.

Look for this to be reported in MSM. What? It won't be?

What is wrong with these people?

Remember, the blog is the official DNC one. Also check out the home page for the DNC.

Hate is powerful.

i am sick of the polialization of this is dumb and makes me ill

Anyone wondr how rescues would be effected if the US defene budget weren't so high? That hardware doesn't come from nowhere.

I still don't see how this is the "Grand Strategy" to win elections. Where is a viable alternative?

Twisted.Perverted.Crippled.

Can you say "projection", boys and girls?

The Dems are poor loosers...pathetic...really...

It’s absolutely disgusting.

Yes it is.

And Err America can't claim any moral high ground when it comes to charity monies. What pathetic turds.

It is disgusting. But when it's all you got, I guess you run with it.

These people are truly evil. they do all this knowingly, and are proud of their actions.

#10

That is a very intresting way of spinning the issue. I like it!

If our defence budget had not been where it was all these years, the hardware that we are using to get people to safty would not exist.

The left can't help themselves.

To them,taking a pee is a political activity.

Its not just the extremists such as Kos,MS or DU,this mindset goes clear to the core of the democrat party.

It has gotten to the point that moderate democrats who don't agree with these howling moonbats are a minority in the party.

Let's hope Kos fails in his DLC coup but delivers a mortal blow to his own cause.

Who's the guy giving the briefing right now?

11 AI:

Instant stats. Thanks.

#4 JammieWearingFool

Which party do the looters belong to?

New Orleans is approximately 67% Black/American-African...

New Orleans voted 78% for Kerry...

Now we can go back in history and assign party loyalties to all the hurricanes. This is like A Beautiful Mind.

These people truly are evil, with some insanity mixed in. Dangerous combo.

They are taking joy, absolutely kvellling, at using a calamity to score cheap political points. And I don't see any of them lifting a finger, raising funds, or wishing anybody well even.

They are beneath pondscum.

Sheesh, listening to Rhodes you'd think Bush was like Bradblog.
So far the only folks I see taking joy in losing people are the loony left. And it ain't buried deep inside them either.

She didn't really say that, did she?
Isn't there some medical term for someone who spews this kind of filth?
Oh yeah. Moonbatitis.
Jeez!

#16 -- You beat me to it. Air America has no moral standing. Perhaps they can help the poor by repaying the money they borrowed from a charity.

Just when you think the left can't sink any lower...they do.

#10 mpax & #19 XenoLlama BTW, it is spelled D-E-F-E-N-S-E. That's the one thing I learned from a cheerleader.

If there is another major terrorist attack on U.S. soil and the moonbat fifth column responds by blaming Bush/America, they can expect a violent backlash. Americans are a tolerant people but this has gone too far.

Randi R?

Ms. "On-air skit about shooting the President"?

"Flyingtigresscolor" = surprised

In this time of raising completely outrageous implications out of the cruel bog that was New Orleans, I hesitate to raise one more. Radicals muslims. How many do you think were living in New Orleans? They probably didn't have a significant muslim population there. Surely, the few that were there got out of Dodge as soon as they heard Vesuvius was coming down. If they had pretentions of carrying out their own attack, they wouldn't want to go see Allah just yet. If they did remain, they stood a great chance of dying, and certainly risking death by cholera or a multitude of other means just to terrorize a bunch of flooded ruins would be an innefective way of expressing jihad, right?

So why can't I get it out of my mind?

Everyone here needs to come up with an MSM type idiotic question for my book in progress to be named at this time, "What Does A Boob Reporter Say To Sound Intelligent" During the FEMA media scrum, I could not hear their questions and need some input. My other book "Moonbat Blathers" will take a bit longer, but your input is also appreciated at this time for that project.

Was listening to Hannity earlier when the first caller came on, claiming he didn't want to speak politics...and then issued a challenge for conservative bloggers to outdo the liberal blogs in relief money.

Just decided to check over at Kos and, lo and behold, the liberal bloggers have set up their own networked relief fund drive. I'd say I was impressed, but this link shares a front page with a website that has been spewing Bush hatred since Monday.

And to think, the Dems used to whine and moan about how Bush was a "divider".....

Now, the Dems are telling people not to donate to Red states.

Can we kick the Blue counties out of the Union now, and make it official?

I just wonder how many on the "rational" left will get sucked down the "radical" left rat hole. It does not bode well for this country really when you have one of only two "viable" parties donning tinfoil hats and looking for black helicopters. I wonder when someone on the "responsible" left will stand up to these facists and try to regain parental control of their party. My grandparents would spin in their graves if they knew what had become of their party. It needs to happen soon or the democrats will never again get another shot at national political leadership. just sayin'........

Also, pray for those both Left and Right who are caught up in this terrible disaster. I can not believe that this would turn into a partisan event but it does seem that it has. It saddens and disgusts me.

TM

Super.....wonder how that Air America Hurrican Katrina relief fundraising effort is going? Kinda difficult when your CEO and founder is dodging subpeonas.

The enormity of this hardly registered on the bloated one's website yesterday. I'm still a few days away from getting paid, but I already sent $$$ (expect a money order, Bayou King). Wow...harping on the Republicans is really gonna help these people along the Gulf Coast get food, shelter and water! Thank you Randy Rhodes and Micheal Moore....

I have thought the same thing #31, and you know they are around,but what they are up over this calamity has me damned spooked,I gotta say.

Chertoff is right. Everyone should read this cold dose of reality they linked on Loonycrats.org.

"The critical thing was to get people out of there before the disaster," he said on NBC's Today program. "Some people chose not to obey that order. That was a mistake on their part."

Can't argue with the floating, bloated corpses.

33,

It'll be a slamdunk that the right side will easily win the fundraising battle. But either way, at least these lowlives might kick in a few bucks.

They'll probably stipulate with the donations that it has to go directly to a displaced moonbat.

Nothing more than a series of beyond cheap and gratuitous shots at the President. Of course no mention that the State Governor is a Democrat or the Mayor of NO is a Democrat - and they are responding how?

And where do these idiots at Air Enron / DNC get off to use as their comparison to the scale / effort of response? Except for perhaps the Great Chicago Fire, the Great San Francisco Earthquake, the Johnston Flood, and the 1900 Galeveston Hurricane - where have we seen this scale of disaster in a major city before?

Isn't their whinge about the response something that is based only on their wishes / expectations as to how fast government / aid groups can mobilize and arrive to impact an area and population as large as this one? If they actually do better, wouldn't it be more pertinent to actually tell the specifics as to how to do it better rather than add to the problem by making it a phoney political issue?

The NEW Democratic Party - part of the problem.....not the part of the solution.

Wow, you've got to really admire the thread that is in support of the looters. I mean, it's damn near impossible to survive in a city that is without power if you don't have a big screen TV, donchya think? I will admit that it is good of them to acknowledge that everyone needs a gun so bad that if you don't have one, it's OK to steal one if the cops are preoccupied with other matters.

[/Sarcasm]

I really wish that the Donks would finish their damn circular firing-squad so the Republicans can split into two parties and we can get away from a virtually one Party State. Well, one party for the sane to vote for. It is really scary to see how many moonbats there are that support the Nutcase Party of the L³eft.

I posted this on another thread but it's better suited to this thread :

In Praise of Looting

Many poor residents will be dying as Bush speaks useless words about the catastrophe. The hungry and wet people won’t be fed by Bush’s visit, but perhaps if he falls out of a helicopter while surveying the damage, the residents can make a good jambalaya with the presidential corpse.

Finally, let’s remember that looting is a form of wealth redistribution. When rich people loot, they call it capitalism, good business practices, third quarter dividends, the new economy and “giving people job.”

Well, here's an interesting perspective. Theresa's Tides Foundation's support of the National Priorities Project (pdf file) says:

The Unified Security Budget’s proposals would provide better security, and include $13 billion in savings.
New Orleans taxpayers’ share of the savings is $9.3 million.

If that money were redirected toward meeting needs of residents, it could:
􀂾􀀃Expand the number of teachers in New Orleans schools by 216; or
􀂾􀀃Provide health care coverage to 2,415 uninsured residents; or
􀂾􀀃Provide scholarships for 2,355 students at the Louisiana State University; or
􀂾􀀃Hire 289 more public safety officers; or
􀂾􀀃Build 122 affordable housing units creating 58 new jobs in New Orleans.

Nothing about more levy studies.

This President is never gonna do the right thing.

In the diseased, drug-addled minds of the American Left, this is a correct statement.

I'm not the softest guy around, but seriously, sometimes it makes me want to cry when I think of the poison that has infested the Democrat party, and how vile it is and how deep it runs. Just the sheer visciousness of it, the ever-more-naked malice and hatred. They're supposed to be our fellow countrymen, yet they see everyone else in America as enemies, and can't help but saying how they despise the land itself and the ideals it was founded upon.

Just because someone isn't a liberal (or even sufficiently liberal) it's complete license to libel them, slander them, attempt to destroy them at every turn. To sit around trying to top everyone else in creating horror stories about the Jew's conservative's treachery and malevolence. The Lord above only knows how many minds, hearts and souls have been warped and damaged by the toxins these people swim in and spread all around the globe.

There's hundreds if not thousands of human corpses rotting away in a deluged hellhole, while thousands more are suffering, exposed, hungry, thirsty and afraid... and these SOBs see political opporunity in that? Is there a corpse they won't cannibalize for their own power? Our troops? Paul Wellstone? Casey Sheehan? Where does it end? Does it end? That this lying vicious hag still has voice in the movement after her assassination fun is plenty telling. For her to say such horrid things about anyone is beyond the pale. And beyond the pale is business-as-usual for today's liberals.

Just color me disgusted.

#6 Dave the.....:

Look for this to be reported in MSM. What? It won't be?

Huh, I thought the MSM existed to give Air America free publicity. But yeah, got a feeling they won't have time to cover this either.

Imagine the possibilities - if all this negative energy were directed at assisting the disaster relief/rescue effort instead of criticising it.

My prayers go out to all the victims and the relief/rescue workers.

I hope they get convinced that politicizing this tragedy is a good idea, then watch every sane person in the country turn their heads from these monsters in contempt.

According to these people, it is Bush who has "divided the nation". And yet, in a time of this nation's worst natural catastrophe on record, exactly who is doing the dividing here? Because it sure as hell isn't Bush and the Republican Party.

If the Republicans don't play back every disgusting soundbite and lowblow the donks have pulled in the wake of Katrina during the next election, then they truly have no spine.

Sort of like Rush Limbaugh blaming gasoline shortages arising from Hurricane Katrina on "evironmentalist wackos" (terminology is from Paxnhymn, not Rush, but I'm sure Rush used some colorful language - since I can't listen to him without throwing up, I didn't hear the actual words he said).

I am truly appalled at this infantile display of politics. That site is the official voice of the democratic party of teh United States. They have fallen so low that headlines such as these:
"Scott McClellan Tells Victims to Stop Trying to Survive"
"Let Them Eat Cake"
"Chertoff Blames Refugees and the Dead for Their Fate"

Un.be.leivable. I wrote something for myself a while back about to vent my anger at what the democrats have become. A few paragraphs fit this situation.

How Proud you must be of your Democratic Party, the party of Truman and Kennedy. Those men who stood up in times of great world upheaval, confident in the greatness of their country and its citizens. They knew that the people and their representatives would stand behind them and put aside partisan strife when the quest was more vital than any political rivalry. America always came before party and ideology.

You must be so proud of the titular head of the Democratic Party who says that he “hates republicans and everything they stand for” and that they “have never worked a day in their lives” and that they are the party of only White Christians”. It must swell your breast with when you imagine all of the new voters flocking to your cause, inspired by those loving and inclusive sentiments.

You must be so proud that most members of your Party view the Other Side not as political opponents, but as the enemy. An enemy who needs not be defeated but destroyed because they are ‘evil’. Of course when the term evil is applied to mass murdering regimes of totalitarianism around the world, members of your Party snigger and accuse the President of being simple-minded, un-nuanced and a fool.

You must be so proud that our sworn blood enemy, the one who beheads our citizens with butchers’ knives, has adopted the same talking points against the Administration as the Democratic party. The only way to tell the difference is that our enemy’s words must be translated from a foreign language.

Your pride must overflow when you read the internet web sites that have become the inner sanctums of Democratic ideology. Where such sentiments that President Bush is Hitler is so common that there is not even any dissent. Does your heart flutter when you read the rancid screeds against AmeriKKKa, the evil Dick Cheney, how the Twin Towers were filled with “little Eichmanns”, our torturers in uniform, and the vampire-like Halliburton Corporation? How proud you must be when one of your premier forums posts a map and directions to Karl Roves home, and instructs your fellow Party members to throw bags filled with feces onto his property. The ability of your Party to elevate the public discourse must inspire you.

.......

Maybe I'll get around to adding another paragraph.

I'd really rather not.

It’s absolutely disgusting.

Whereas I struggle to find anything disgusting on this blog.

People in glass houses...

#41 Iron Fist:

Wow, you've got to really admire the thread that is in support of the looters.

My prediction: The New Orleans Looters will be awarded the next Nobel Peace Prize. I mean, why the hell not? Arafat got one.

#50,

So, rather than acknowledge the horrid actions of your party and its members, you'd prefer to reflexively divert your attention to comments made by Rush Limbaugh? And on hearsay, no less.

Very telling.

Yes, I am being a link whore. But check out what I found about the spending priorities of New Orleans politicians. Specifically, a $150 million streetcar line that opened just last year:

[Link: louminatti.blogspot.com...]

You want to pin blame on someone for the levee failures? Blame New Orleans Democrats for PISSING AWAY hundreds of millions of tax dollars.

First Bradblog and now this...

I believe they are suffering from paranoid schizophrenia.

EMERGENCY APPEAL !

Guys, my attempts to secure those two generators for Bayou_King's relief of the Medville, LA hospital didn't work out as hoped. Bayou_King is going to try and get his dad (retired and old military) to put them on his credit card in the hopes we can save them for the effort. What I would like is 4-5-6 lizards who can afford to pop $ 300-500 in the form of a check to Bayou_King's dad to cover the $ 2400 cost to let me know. This is not a certain thing yet, because I don't know that Bayou_King's dad was able to get it done. But we need to be able to fund this one immediately. There might be some reimbursement out of the very generous fund created by the lizards, but then again, there might not, or if there is, it might take a while. So if anybody out there can pop for that kind of money, please contact me off-blog by the e-mail on my nic. There's no shame in not being able to take that kind of hit, especially if you're already in to some relief effort for all you can afford. If you have small contributions, get them to the general Bayou_King fund, because they will surely help. I'm just trying to round up a few that can cover the cost. I'll repeat this post on all the threads above, and Charles, thank you in advance for your forebearance.

#50 Gordon,

Yeah, it's not like the fact that we haven't built any refineries since Carter was President, radically limit domestic production, and require a myriad of specially blended fuel formulas that can only be sold in specific regions has anything to do with it. I mean, how could that be?

Next, Rush will be saying that gas taxes contribute to the high price of gasoline, too.

What an idiot.

Sing it with me everyone (tune of "I Love Rock N' Roll" by Joan Jett & The Blackhearts)

I loathe Randi Rhodes
So turn off Air America, baby
I loathe Randi Rhodes
So let's switch over to the EIB

...soooo they won't be surprised next year when they lose at the polls BIGTIME?

#55 Ferny: The minutes from Rush Limbaugh's show today will be up on his website tomorrow. I will peruse them - of course even there they are still "hearsay" evidence in a technical sense.

Looking at Rush's site though, I see he is already starting the blame game, claiming that there aren't enough refineries because of environmental extremists, therefore not enough gasoline for emergencies.

Both extremes play this game. And Rush is on the extreme right, have no doubt about it.

#50 yes you can blame "environmental whackos" for some of the problems with the gas supply. There hasn't been any new refineries in over ten years,thanks in part to the objections of the "whackos". Also their concern for the poor caribou in Alaska has kept us from drilling in our own country.So Rush was right.

Good take on the defense budget.

The USNS Comfort will be on station in several days.

It, and it's sister ship, the USNS Mercy located on the west coast are both on the chopping block with the Navy. Plans to decomm them in the next several years.

With the majority of the US population living within spitting distance, I say turn the ships over to FEMA to have them ready for these events.

USS Harry Truman will be enroute in the next day or two.

Several acres of landing field onboard.
More than likely, they will leave the air wing ashore and augment the helo det with every helo they can carry.

With nuclear power, their onstation time is almost unlimited, with 60 days food on board and enough fuel to supply helo's till the cows come home.

The mobile hospitals that the military can set up?
This is wartime expertise, addapted for peaceful purpose.

The liberals absolutely hate the military.
Troops?
Organization?
Purpose?

They hate every portion of the militaries very existance.

But, what is the main thing we are hearing right now from these paragons of virtue and intelligence?

Where is the military?
That's what you hear.

The LLL's do every thing they can to gut and eliminate the troops, untill they need them, then it's why don't we have enough of them.

Sorry for the rant,
The LLL/MSM group grope of mutual goals is about to make me puke.

Thats fucked up.

I wasnt a huge Clinton fan, but when Oklahoma went down I dont recall that being used as a flamethrower to attack Clinton, I dont recall any number of terrorist attacks (African embassies, 1993 WTC, et al.)or natural disasters being politicized- at least not to this extent.

For the left, it's NEVER about what is best for the country- its about whats best for THEM and their selfish, victim-oriented, hateful little ideologies.

Venomous filth, the lot of you.

#50

Sort of like Rush Limbaugh blaming gasoline shortages arising from Hurricane Katrina on "evironmentalist wackos"

Do you mean the environmentalist whackos that oppose the building of new oil refineries, new oil exploration, new nuclear power plants, and even a windmill farm (thanks, Teddy, now have another drink) off the coast of Massachusetts?

#59 Iron Fist:

Yeah, let's attack the left for playing political games with this disaster - AND THEN WE'LL PLAY THE SAME GAMES BLAMING ENVIRONMENTALISTS FOR THE DISASTER.

What a STINKING HYPOCRITE you are.

Dream Dems who should be running things: Zell Miller. He wouldn't have been shooting spit balls at the Hurricane forecasters, he'd have evacuated the South hisself. Lord bless him and his like for defending our country and supporting our military.

Naturally, considering the Left gave us this....

The LLL is becoming unhinged because they fear President Bush, like after his initial missteps after 9-11 is regaining his footing and may repeat ``his finest hour'' moment with FDNY in the ruins of the World Trade Center.

Of course, all president's approval ratings rise after natural disasters and the MSM sure as hell can't let Bush catch a break or portray him being Presidential. Look for lots of stories in the next week or so, blaming the catastrophe directly on Bush, Rove, Halliburton, Iraq, PNAC, the neo-cons. Etc.

I take it democrats.org is an official Democratic Party website?

Just as I thought: this IS the mainstream left's view: Bush caused the hurricane to happen, he didn't spend money on the levees knowing they could break and kill lots of people, and we compassionate Democrats shouldn't give the victims any money because they voted for Bush. Fuck 'em.

Clinton Administration cut levee funding?

From EU Rota website - he did a nexis search of the NO Times-Picayune, and discovered where the Clinton administration was cutting levee funding long ago ....

#50 Gordon

Sort of like Rush Limbaugh blaming gasoline shortages arising from Hurricane Katrina on "evironmentalist wackos"

I actually listened to that broadcast. And you know what? He was right.

His argument was simple: Shortages were essentially a problem of delivery and refining (in the wake of Katrina), NOT crude supply.

Now, take into account the number of custom gas blends that vary from state to sate and cannot be shipped to other states. Then take into account the fact that no new refinery has been built since the 70s. Then look at how much of our natural fuel supplies (oil, natural gas, coal) go to electricity and heat generation when we haven't built a new nuclear plant sinc ethe 70s.

Then, find out who is most responsible in each case. It's the Environmental Movement. Simple as that.

Pat Robertson was pilloried bythe LLL for advocating the assasination of an illegitimate dictator. Ms. Rhodes does the same about her own President. Where was the left's outrage?
No wonder fewer people take the M'bats seriously these days.
Let 'em spew, their ship is sinking faster with each incoherent rant!

Randi Rhodes is scum, pure and simple.

Did anyone see the footage that MSNBC just showed? Incredible. Just incredible.

It should surprise noone that the majority of refugees in New Orleans are African Americans since 67% of the populaton is African American. What should be asked is why so damned many of them decided NOT to seek shelter and instead stayed in their welfare housing (the projects) taking their lives in their own hands.

I have to imagine it may have something to do with the well published regulation that forbade anyone from entering the dome with alcohol, drugs or weapons. Just a bit too stressful for many I suppose.

Well, Gordo, we're all looking forward to reading your thoughts on the matter on your blog.

Oh, wait, you don't have a blog, do you? Because you know no one would ever give a shit about what you have to say. You are basically a parasite.

50 and 52:

STFU

Is Randi Rhodes the bimbo on Tucker Carlson's show on MSNBC?

#50 nodrog

Sort of like Rush Limbaugh blaming gasoline shortages arising from Hurricane Katrina on "evironmentalist wackos"

Let's see if the basic logic works on you - I have my doubts - but you did have 2 nearly cogent posts in the past 2 days.....

When supply is down, and demand is up - prices rise. If demand remains constant - and the supply shrinks furhter - prices rise further and eventually shortages can result.

Basic economics.

Now, in 1980, there were over 425 refineries in the United States. Now there are about 184 refineries. NO NEW REFINERIES HAVE BEEN BUILT IN 25 YEARS. What surplus capacity in the network that did exist has been eliminated by increases in demand caused by more population, more cars, more trucks, etc. The limit of supply from domestic refining has been reached.

Now about 20% of the capacity of gasoline refining in the US is in the area impacted by Katrina. They aren't producing. So, supply over the next month will be significantly reduced - until the plants come back on line.

How can this be prevented? Conservation - but that is minor given the fact that the economy / population remains growing. Add to the capacity of refining? BINGO. So, build new refineries. Except, NIMBY and the environmentalists will make this either impossible, or drag it out another dozen of years in courts before the new capacity can go online if ever.

So, ask yourself when you are paying $3.50 a gallon next week - and may be seeing lines / rationing again (1978-79) - why don't we have more refining capacity - and who stopped us from building more refining capacity?

Very grateful for the Coast Guard saving the lives of thousands.
Not once did i see a Coast Guardsman throw anybody out of the chopper because they voted for Kerry.
I just wonder sometimes if the fng democrats would have done the same.

Did you vote for Bush? yes,
get your ass out.

/democratic lop headed sob.

Gordo, unlike you we don't blame natural disasters on liberals, dhimmicrats, or even Jimmmi Carter.We do blame some of the problems with our fuel supply on those whackos who are against anything that might, in their minds ,hurt their beloved mother earth.Of course facts rarely get in the way of their arguments.

#64 V.I.A.

Great idea! The ultimate in recycling.

/happy that defense was spelled correctly.

You mean Air America is still on the air somewhere?!

Hear is wishing for a quick, painful death to that demented radio station.

Par for the course.

"Progressives" will exploit anything to further their agenda.
 

Bush slashed funding that would have repaired and added to the levees that have broken and flooded New Orleans. He then fired an official who questioned that move.

Despite continuous warnings that a catastrophic hurricane could hit New Orleans, the Bush administration and Congress in recent years have repeatedly denied full funding for hurricane preparation and flood control.

That has delayed construction of levees around the city and stymied an ambitious project to improve drainage in New Orleans' neighborhoods.

For instance, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers requested $27 million for this fiscal year to pay for hurricane-protection projects around Lake Pontchartrain. The Bush administration countered with $3.9 million, and Congress eventually provided $5.7 million, according to figures provided by the office of U.S. Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.).
[snip]
"I'm not saying it wouldn't still be flooded, but I do feel that if it had been totally funded, there would be less flooding than you have," said Michael Parker, a former Republican Mississippi congressman who headed the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers from October 2001 until March 2002, when he was ousted after publicly criticizing a Bush administration proposal to cut the corps' budget.

[Link: www.chicagotribune.com...]

It has been five days freakin' days since the storm hit, and no relief in sight for thousands of survivors. As tax payers, we have the right and the obligation to hold our elected officials responsible for this catastrophe, the president included.

#67 Gordon:

We are all in mourning. Seriously. You may not believe that but we are. We're not talking about it....we're DOING about it which is how we're handling it. But if you don't shut your mouth with nasty snarky comments I'm personally going to ask Charles to ban you. Usually you're an amusing gadfly but we're not in the mood for it now and I'd ask you to go away.

67 Gordon

Hey, we are not talking about an act of God being anyone's fault. We are talking about using natural resources, creating jobs, and making the life of Americans better, long-term, by having more refineries and by drilling for oil where we have abundant supplies sitting, while environmentalists freak out. If it were up to the environmentalists, we'd all be living in caves.

I have a theory about blaming. I think people who have lost faith or have no faith in a higher power are more likely to clutch at straws of blame and recrimination. I also think LLLs are more likely to be man-centered - to think somehow they can control the universe.

#76

We're all stars now, in the dope show.

87,

Dittos to that.

Really. These people are getting worse by the minute. They want to parse statements they admittedly haven't heard themselves.

Not a word of sympathy from these vile, loathesome creatures. They will not cease until everyone is as miserable as they are.

But that will never happen, and they will continue to sink further.

Moonbat Schizophrenia:

Randi Rhodes: "Bush hates the hurricane victims because they're Democrats."

BradBlog: Screw the Hurricane Victims, They're Republicans

I blame Jane Fonda for this.

If all the nuclear power plants that were in the pipeline (so to speak) 1977 (or whatever year she started her cruade), we would be meeting the Koyta rules today.

So the left says all of those coal fired power plants are creating global warming, and the warming caused the hurricane.

So it's obvious, Jane Fonda is a mass murderer. Every death in the gulf region is on her shoulders.

(only somewhat sarcastic....we would have meet Koyta if we would have gone ahead with the planned nuclear plants)

The Democrats in Louisiana did not have a plan for this debacle, that's obvious. Of course they will try to blame Bush, and if he is going to save his butt, he had better get the storm area under control.

He now has a war in Iraq, the Southwest in near revolt over immigration, and a major US city and trade hub imploding. Time to get OFF MESSAGE and fix the damn country.

liberality:

I'm going to avoid going off on you. I'm in a very foul mood today.

I'd like you to do something for me:

Go to the top of this page and read Randi Rhodes' comments. Then go to the thread on Bradblog telling his readers not to give any money to the relief efforts because Louisiana and Mississippi are red states.

Tell me if you endorse them. I'd like to think you don't, but given what's come out I can't be so sure.

Missed a sentence in my #93

If all the nuclear power plants that were in the pipeline (so to speak) in 1977 (or whatever year she started her cruade) would have been built, we would be meeting the Koyta rules today.

#67 nodrog

No Republican is blaming liberals for Katrina. Unlike donks, we actually understand it was a natural event.

However, criticizing just how fragile our domestic energy producing capabilities have become in the last 3 decades due to anti-capitalists posing as environmentalists is not unwarranted.

I don't expect you to understand the difference.

#86 liberality:

WRONG! Decades of corrupt lefty cronyism and sheer greed have left Louisiana without many needs, good education for the poorer classes, good roads and levees that were up to Code. Republican control is fairly recent. Well after some levees which have failed were built. Guess again!

86 liberality

Bush slashed funding that would have repaired and added to the levees that have broken and flooded New Orleans. He then fired an official who questioned that move.

The part of the levee that broke was just recently re-inforced, maybe Bush mixed the concrete?

73 Straight8

Heres a question. Many Democrats demanded that President Bush apologize for Robertson's remarks because he(Pat) spoke for so many Republicans(not me, btw). Now the questions.

Whos views and political positions are more representative of their respective parties.

Pat Robertson or Randi Rhodes?

My answer would be Rhodes.

Comparing Robertson and Rhodes, who has more influence on the leaders of their respective parties?

My answer would be Robertson...but Rhodes(and her clones) influence on the modern Democratic party grows daily. Not that Air America is expanding its radio influence with the general public. Their they continue and will always fail(too much competition from the MSM).

Gordon,
I hope your friends in high places win.
you will be paying 12 dollars a gal. for gas and riding around on a Moped looking at all the spotted owls.
When i knock your ass in a ditch with my battery /gas honda,
ill laugh and not even look back.

BHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

Randi Rhodes has stream-of-semi-consciousness communication style that often leads me to conclude that the stream has outflowed the consciousness.

#86 liberal schmuck

As tax payers, we have the right and the obligation to hold our elected officials responsible for this catastrophe, the president included.

Well since NO is a Dem stronghold let's look at the local level:

Regarding the levee system in New Orleans, one cannot truly understand how lucky the city was just have the system that was in place without understanding the truly Byzantine structure of New Orleans politics, which requires separate governing boards for each levee that is built.

Rather one agency that is in charge of flood prevention, there are scores. Building in redundancies would have required more boards, which would have lessened the political power of those on the existing boards. I seriously doubt that even now, after this catastrophe, that we in Louisiana will see this system change because the structure is mandated by the Louisiana Constitution. Any change requires not just statewide approval, but must also be approved by a majority of voter in Orleans Parish. Given how many local politicians whose fiefdoms would disappear, that will not happen, and so we will see this disaster occur again.

[Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]

#86

That article is such a partisan hack job of a joke that Im surprised even the Bush hating Trib let it in.

Where to begin....

Heres a good one:

A corps plan to shore up the levees began in 1965 and was supposed to be finished in 10 years but remains incomplete. "They've never put enough money in to complete it," Parker said. He said the corps' budget has been regularly targeted by the White House because public works projects are perceived as pork and aren't considered "sexy."

Bush was in office from 1965-1975? Who knew?
Oh, but FORTY FUCKING YEARS of alleged shortfalls should have been made up in ONE year.

Similarly, the Army Corps requested $78 million for this fiscal year for projects that would improve draining and prevent flooding in New Orleans. The Bush administration's budget provided $30 million for the projects, and Congress ultimately approved $36.5 million, according to Landrieu's office.

See everyone, the state requested like, ALOT of millions of dollars, and Bush only approved a FAIR AMOUNT of millions of dollars, and thats why NO is flooded now!

Heres a question retarded chimps like "liberality" cant get their walnut sized cerebellums around: "What the FUCK happened to the 36.5 million!?"

Buried way way way down:

"The president signed into law a $100 million increase for the corps for the current fiscal year compared to the previous year's level."

HOW DARE HE

I posted this on about three threads, but I'll do it one more time as it fits in here.

On Tuesday, Pat Robertson sent 6 semi-truckloads of supplies to the area.

How many has Randi Rhodes sent?

#50 Gordon

Actually, the current shortages ARE largely the fault of the radical environmentalists. We haven't built a new refinery in this country for over thirty years, and the DoE thinks it would be about impossible for one to get approved given all the legal and environmental hoops the builders would have to jump through.

Thanks Sierra Club. I'll send you the bill for my gas.

nodrog

After seeing #62 and #67 - it's clear that you are back off the meds - and dropping turds all over Charles' house crying smear, hypocrisy, and very lamely trying to justify and defend the indefensible politicization by your fellow raving idiots on the left. The cretins spouting this, under the cover of being Democrats, aren't really democrats - just reprehensible sick people who prefer to revel in someone's suffering for political gain - than fixing the problem.

What an effin pathetic little strawman you've built.

From the American Petroleum Institute:

[Link: api-ep.api.org...]

They give six reasons for low refining capacity right now. Notice the first two reasons: 1) intensive capital investmant; and 2) a return on investment for new refinery capacity of 5.5%, compared to the 12,7% national average.

Also, please remember that until several years ago the story was the OVER-capacity of the nation's refineries. Oil prices were much lower on inflation-adjusted bases than in 1973, BEFORE the first oil embargo.

The main reason there weren't any new refineries is that there wasn't much money to be made refining oil.

Now that there is more money to be made refining oil, we will have more refining capacity. But the situation didn't change until about five years ago.

And are there really lizards out there who would chuck out SENSIBLE environmental regulations on refineries, like Rush apparently would?

#86 Big Fucking Liberal Moron

Read the Constitution. Learn who decides on the budget. (Pssst: It's called Appropriations, and it's one of the [hint, hint] Houses of Congress) Oh, and shut the fuck up.

It’s absolutely disgusting.

Disgusting it may be, but surprising it is not.

#108 Athos: Are you going to jump on Rush's bandwagon, blaming "environmentalist wackos" for the disaster?

If not, then congratulations.

If yes, then you too are a STINKING HYPOCRITE, CARRHING ON ABOUT RANDI RHODES WHEN YOU AND THE EXTREME RIGHT ARE DOING THE SAME THING.

Liberality:

How do you reconcile the lefts claim throughout the last election cycle that Bush was running up unsustainable deficits and your current contention that Bush hasn't spent nearly enough on disaster prevention and public works?

tick...tick.....tick.....

BZZZZZ!

Your still an idiot!

98 foreign devil

Good post.

Also, lib should check out all the federal cuts from the 90s, by the Clintonistas - one example - from 1995, as I recall, they massively cut money out from under the gulf region, telling them it was their problem.

I lived in Louisiana, and I remember the incredibly shoddy political crap from back then (my roommate got "involved" with Edwin Edwards, and unfortunately I got involved when Mrs. Edwards called me and vented, with details). ICK. I don't know about now, but then, I wouldn't have given you a plug nickel for the lot of the politicos in NOLA.

Anyway at least the moonbats are claiming the looters as their own, not that I had any doubts.

I think this is nothing more than a pre-emptive strike designed to shift attention. The Left is trying to get a narrative out into the nation's collective conciousness before the true aftermath of this catastrophe is revealed. I'm betting it will be VERY bad for Dems, considering the fact that Dems have been running New Orleans for decades.

You know there will be more of this ... we still have to hear from Michael Moore, Cynthia McKinney, Jimmy Carter, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, etc.

99 jehu

The part of the levee that broke was just recently re-inforced, maybe Bush mixed the concrete?

lol
well ill be,
that is exactly what happened old gwb put plaster of paris in the concrete mix and cause the mississippi rive to change course.
man,
i learn something every day on lgf.

If you confront one of these guys about the hate Air America, they will point to the hate of Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity. Now I know that Hannity part is Bull, but has Rush ever said anything so vile or proposterous?

Yeah, the lunatics will add it to their string of things they don't like about Bush as reasons for his impeachment. That it was said by a radio dejay will be the extent of their fact finding.

However, now that they've got a half a dozen stories from credible sources about what they knew about Atta a year before 911, I'm sorry, but that's just unsubstantiated (911 Commission joke ye know).

Charles, are you going to comment on the disgusting prevalence on this thread and others of those who would blame "environmentalist wackos" for the scale of this disaster?

Please define the term sensible?

And are there really lizards out there who would chuck out SENSIBLE environmental regulations on refineries, like Rush apparently would?

#113

I don't know if that's the right question. Liberality would probably blame it on the war in Iraq.

#109 el gordo

They give six reasons for low refining capacity right now. Notice the first two reasons: 1) intensive capital investmant

Okay gordo, let's look at the number one reason. Waht does it mean. "It's expensive to build a refinerly." Well, yes, but why? "Uhhh. Uhhh."

The biggest expense in building a new refinery, powerplant, transit station, airport runway, etc. in this country: Environmental Litigation.

Ask anybody in the business. They'll be glad to tell you all about it.

No Gordo we wouldn't chuck out sensible environmental regulations,problem is there arent't very many that fit the category. Take for instance the drilling in Alaska. No reason on earth it can't be done. Why isn't it done. Sierra Club et.al. afraid for the poor caribou. Thing is there has been a pipeline for decades and the caribou actually thrived.We have a critter called the tiger salamander here in Northern Ca. Seems the environmentalists feel it is endangered. So no building ,houses out of reach for most families because of it..Seems it can only breed in certain area.But guess what?The slimy thing seems to thrive just about everywhere here. Ask anyone here and they all can tell you they're everywhere. Just a way for the Sierra Club to control everything. And make no mistake it is a huge business the Sierra Club. So when you can come up with some reasonable environmental rules. Let me know

Blood pressure rising...... blood boiling....

109 Gordon

Bullshit, Gordon. You obviously don't know shit about this subject.

It's not an exaggeration to say that much of the world's history has been shaped by the drive to find, develop, and control natural resources. Natural resources have provided some of the world's most lucrative investments. Their value has derived in large part from their direct role in the long-term rise of global living standards. Companies that own or develop natural resources provide an important source of diversification for stock investors seeking capital appreciation over time.

My investment portfolio includes natural resources, including oil. That segment of my porfolio is one of my all-time favorites. It's doing well, thanks, and has been for a long while. And will.

#112 nodrog

Go back and re-read your strawman from #50 - the issue is Rush blaming the gasoline shortages on the environmentalists - not blaming the disaster on environmentalists like your pathetic little 2nd strawman -

Are you going to jump on Rush's bandwagon, blaming "environmentalist wackos" for the disaster?

Here it is nice and simple - the gas shortage is the result of the groups / people that made it difficult if not impossible to increase the nation's gasoline refining capacity by building more / new refineries. These are the same groups that contributed to the power problems in CA by preventing the construction of new generating plants.

The logic is there. It's in escapable. The environmental idiots who prevent the buildout of infrastructure directly contribute to the resulting shortages from the failure to buildout.

As for your outrage - stuff it in your strawman you cretin.

nodroG:

And just who is blaming this disaster on the envirnomentalists?

I'd say the resulting gas shortages and price hikes can be blamed on the environmentalists. Just why do we need to have all kinds of different gasoline blends that can only be sold in certain areas? The gas sold in Chicago probably isn't the same gas sold in Los Angeles.

I bet there are some envirnmentalists up in arms over Bush waiving this requirement for the time being.

They're two different things. But I don't expect you to know the difference.

#123 idiot

Charles, are you going to comment on the disgusting prevalence on this thread and others of those who would blame "environmentalist wackos" for the scale of this disaster?

Once again, gordon manages to miss the mark by shooting with his eyes closed. NO ONE HERE IS BLAMING ENVIRONMENTAL POLICIES FOR ANY DEVASTATION KATRINA HAS CAUSED. The criticism of the environmentalist movement has strictly been in regards to the mini energy crisis that is starting to happen now that the Gulf region is essentially off-line.

# 123

I'll type real slow so maybe you can get it

Charles is noting that Randi states on the air that Bush "takes a lot of joy" in losing human lives ...

Several posters have noted that among the secondary effects of this natural diaster are a spike in fuel prices because 20% of our refinery capacity is compromised because, in genral terms, the industry has been obstructed by a handful of activists to do TOO LITTLE to strengthen said capacity over the last 2 decades.

The only disgust I find is in your odious comoparisons ...

gordon

Charles, are you going to comment on the disgusting prevalence on this thread and others of those who would blame "environmentalist wackos" for the scale of this disaster?

You mean the people that stopped nuclear power cold? Stopped all new electrical generation plants in Calif for the past 20 years? Then demanded electrical generation plants be run on natural gas, but will not allow any gas pipelines to be built? So Calif goes dark 5 years ago, and still has troubles?

You mean the people that will not allow us to drill on 1,800 acres in a mosquitto infested bog in Alaska?

You mean people like RFK that want the country to run off fart or wind power, but can't abide the thought of a windmill 8 miles off shore of his Nantucket mansion? But thinks they should be built, in well, places where poor people don't need or appreciate the view. Are those the people you are talking about?

Cause if you are, I don't see how any rational being could blame them.

C'mon people. What's the big controversy? New Orleans has been controlled by New Orleans Democratic Party hacks for over a century. They have bled local taxpayers dry, and wasted billions of dollars over the years on anything BUT levee improvement projects. These facts are undeniable. No need to get worked up over arguments.

When a donk tries to pin this disaster on Bush, just remind them of the facts. Democrats control all New Orleans civil engineering projects and always have. Period. Facts to donks are like garlic to a vampire.

Twisting this around aren't you Gordon. Only libs like you blame natural disasters on people, not one person is blaming the whackos for this, but come to think of it has anyone done research to see if environmental policies had any effect on the building of the levees?

Reality for Dummies: Fuel shortage does not equal hurricane destruction.

There will be a test.

Muslim Killers thank America for saving them from Saddam when he invaded....NOT.....Kuwaiti cleric glad storms hit - says allah has it in for us....(democrats agree?)

The bottom line in their sick rant on the part of hate-filled air heads is that they do not give a damn about America or Americans. They are really not a part of our country; they actually are from another planet. When a disaster strikes, the normal reaction is to drop petty or even major grievances, and band together for the good of the victims...

Has anyone had the stomach to look on their sites to see just how much they are doing to help the victims of Katrina, an act of nature, not of man?

Just look at what a group of lizards have done, and at the number of theads that Charles has dedicated to this from the get-go.

I would not be the least bit surprised if just LGF is responsible for more aid than all the lefties put together. Look at what 'Nam Grunt and Bayou_King are accomplishing, G-d bless them.

I must have missed the announcements that Teddy 'Chappaquiddick' Kennedy has opened his Cape Cod estate, etc., along with Hanoi john and Tereeeeeeeeeeeeeeza Heinz,who own at least, I recall, 6 or more estates, and albore. Whooops, forgot Bill Gates....and that they are offering to let those made homeless stay for as long as needed, and be taken care of. George Soros *spit* is already down in NOLA, helping hands on. /Sad that the MSM forgot to tell us./

President and Mrs. Bush have more human decency in their little fingers than all the dhummis put together.

It was Mother Gaia who wrecked the coast line. Now who worships Mother Gaia?

And, as usual, Gordo tries to meet the burning of his strawman with...another strawman. This one being that people here are blaming the enviro-nuts for Katrina and the subsequent destruction. Uhm, Gordo, no one here's making that accusation. Are you hearing voices again? Did you go off your meds again?

#130 Bubble Girl

I left you an answer 3 threads back.

#123 Gordon

Gordo, why are you here? You don't seem very happy...I think you'd have a lot more fun over at the Kos site.

...soooo they won't be surprised next year when they lose at the polls BIGTIME?

Except I don't think they will lose big time. The left is doing such a good job blaming the Bush admin and repupulicans in general for the not only the aftermath, but the hurricane too. When voting time comes, that's what the people will remember, and they'll vote blue.

Mark my words.

It was Africa!

/the Zulu's were driving around in their Watusimobiles... after all the storms originate from there....

148 Desert Sage

Thanks!

and re: my 149...I sincerely hope that I am WRONG.

86 liberality

a link from a post on a previous thread i can't find now

'Big Easy' a bowl of trouble in hurricanes

But the two plans involving the building of new levees are massive and expensive public works projects, Suhayda says. They would take more than a decade to plan and build, he concludes, leaving the city with no improvement to its hurricane problem in the near future.

That was 2000, after your Boy-eee Clinton did nothing either. The neglect of infrastructure in this country is a cultural thing (among many others) and don't think for a minute you and your Sheeman supports aren't part of the problem.

We need to wake the hell up and start some Nation Building right here at home - or I swear to G-d we're gonna have civil war right here in the USA.

130 Bubble Girl

Take a chill pill.....c'mon, now breathe deep......think pink unicorns and rainbows........

Michael Savage is on the air now and he is raising hell in a good way. He is asking where the Government is (Federal, State, and Local) in Louisiana?

He is saying that it is now obvious for ALL to see that the Government is in NO position to protect us in the event of a terrorist nuke attack (so true!).

He is asking why Bush is asking his dad and the impeached one to raise money. He says, "What its this a co-presidency" with Bush 1, Clinton, and Bush 2?

He is asking why Bush 1 and Clinton are going to ask US for money, instead of the Mexicans, Saudis, and Kuwaitis!

I love Savage: He is the only NON-Liberal on the air today on a national level who truly calls them the way he sees them!

Charles, are you going to comment on the disgusting prevalence on this thread and others of those who would blame "environmentalist wackos" for the scale of this disaster called nodrog?

#149 Bob's Kid

I'll bet 3000 quatloos that you're wrong. Remember, you're in the Capital city of California.

It was the weather's fault... come on, let's kill all the weathermen...

/shall we throw them into a volcano... that will stop the bad weather!

#144 NY Nana:

No, no, no! It's Teddy "The Swimmer" Kennedy!

#149 Bob's Kid

On the upside, Fox News, talk radio, and the internet have replaced the MSM as news sources of choice for so many Americans that this attempt to pin Katrina on Bush is being exposed to much of the country for exactly what it is.

And besides, Bush ain't running for anything again.

It's hardly different from Kos's "screw them" comment, except obviously for the scale of death and destruction. The president and the military move to bring massive relief, even though ports, airports, roads, and railways are all pretty much useless throughout the region now. The Left bitch and moan about how the president isn't doing enough, and add their usual complaints about his vacations. As if the president's presence in Washington 24/7 would have changed things--he does have access to communications and staff in Crawford, after all.

The libs screech about how a Democratic president could have waved a magic wand and "fixed" this, but what are they doing to help? They seem to have a lot of time to spew their venom; is that because they've already contributed to the relief funds? As despicable as their actions are, I wouldn't have wasted the time to comment on them if I hadn't already contributed to three relief organizations.

That beautiful city is changed forever--and many are dead--because of decades of "it's good enough" flood control. Reconstruction and a survivable levee system should be priorities now. But if the Left wishes to search for blame, by all means, go ahead. I suspect they won't like the answers.

This guy reminds me of some self centered bitch I heard on NPR who went on about how she lives right next the World Trade Center and saw it fall, but feels no sympathy for the people inside.

Oil Platform at Night

Fish like 'em. They act as reefs. I think they're beautiful.

158 Rayra

I'm sure the Lizard King has an assortment of IP addresses associated with the Nodrog.......

You mean the people that stopped nuclear power cold? Stopped all new electrical generation plants in Calif for the past 20 years? Then demanded electrical generation plants be run on natural gas, but will not allow any gas pipelines to be built? So Calif goes dark 5 years ago, and still has troubles?

Yeah,
and ask those poor bastards that have had their homes go up in smoke because the evior-nuts would not let loggers go in and cut out the undergrowth, and had their homes slide into the ocean because concrete barriers are un-natural.
just wait untill a drought hits washington state and all the frigging spotted owls will have their asses singed.

fng enviornment-dipshits.

#159 Bubble Girl:

I don't know about killing all the weathermen; that Rob Marciano is pretty tasty! ,>

Big controversy here; maybe the President should appoint an 9/11 style commission to determine the cause(s)of this disaster.

Their report will surely settle things.

#165 Catttt

Fish like 'em. They act as reefs. I think they're beautiful.

Someone named Catttt would like something that attracts fish......

#160 Foreign Devil

My bad! I forgot:) Uh, maybe he's a floater? He could, along with Mikey Moore, be lashed together and used as a raft to evacuate 150 people.

Mark my words.

Yes, I pee on your words. Seriously, though, you're predicting the future by a snapshot. These political estimations aren't to be taken seriously so long before the elections. The Democrats try to inject themselves into everything and people are sick of it. Few rational people have any confidence in the Democrats when things like this happen. And we are to hope that there are still a majority of people who are rational in this country. The Democratic voters likely won't have as much passion to put an Al Gore into office as before. Relax.

159 Bubble Girl

I have just the volcano for you.......

Gordon, can you not distinguish between "environmentalists caused Katrina," which no one here said, and "environmentalists' policies have contributed to the gasoline shortage and high prices."

Just when I start thinking someone whacked you with a clue by four, you start in again with poor reading comprehension and whining to Charles.

I find Savage a bit much, but he makes some good points sometimes. I think he is oversimplfing the situation in NO.It's easy to be an arm chair quaterback. I agree the military should come in, but I guess the President can't just order it. I also agree that the Governor and mayor have been less than steller in their performances. The problem is not as easy as we would hope. As Americans we have come to expect quick outcomes to everything,and this is not possible here. Coordination should have been better, but they are doing the best they can right now. The biggest problem seems to be the number of people who didn't heed the warnings to leave, and either couldn't or choose not to go. The ligistics are staggering right now.Pray for the victims.

BubbleGirl 159,

What annoys me to no end with these people is they actually think signing a worthless agreement (Kyoto) and wrecking our economy would have done something to prevent this hurricane.

They're insane.

And how they conveniently overlook the fact it was voted down in the Senate, 97-0, while der Schlickmeister was President.

But it's all Bush's fault.

It's hard to imagine what these people are going to do when Bush finally leaves office. Will the anger be projected elsewhere or will it just morph into "It doesn't matter that Bush is no longer president. We know he and Karl Rove are still calling the shots from a secret bunker under the ranch house in Crawford". They can get a lot mileage out of that one...

#143 Owl - I braced myself and raced through the gloating passages of the Kuwaiti from your link.

Yes, America did save his cowardly little ass when Saddam invaded Kuwait. I don't remember too many Kuwaitis actually standing up and fighting the Iraqi forces.

But I think there's another factor here: knowing how much the Arabs hate blacks, I'm sure the sight of so many black Americans in distress added to his delight.

#159 Bubble Girl:

I don't know about killing all the weathermen; that Rob Marciano is pretty tasty! ,>

Please spare Janice Dean, too. Thanks.

177 Jammie

JAMMIE!

I am livid... am trying to calm down with classical music... this is infuriating.. and so disingenuous, especially at a time like this.

This is much bigger than a bitchslap!

Not to mention, those who did sign on to Kyoto haven't implemented it. Sooo....let's blame them, too.

BTW where's Shrillary in the Hurricane aftermath? Are we sure that wasn't her? Pi$$ed off at Bill for something. Maybe that's why he wants to run away from home again on a worldwide fund-raising tour. Oh stop me, STOP ME! I'm cruel! {shiver!}

180 Jammie

Why Jammie.. I had no idea!

LOL~

 #173

Earth2moonbat  9/1/2005 03:33PM PDT
159 Bubble Girl

I have just the volcano for you.......

Thank you compadre... :D

Compare to the GOP's blog.

As an aside, LGFer jpsfudimo thanked Ken Mehlman personally for Charles for including LGF in the GOP blog's blogroll.

I'll bet 3000 quatloos that you're wrong. Remember, you're in the Capital city of California.

As I said, I sincerely hope so, but I also know how unthinking the left usually is, and how they'll believe any garbage if someone says it often enough.

Taking a deep breath, relaxing. Ahhhh.

Bubble Girl 181

This is much bigger than a bitchslap!

Much more than a slap. It's time for a full fledged beatdown. A blanket party, as we used to call it in our days as feral youth.

Throw blanket over the head. Pummel senseless.

Patience not worn thin: it's gone.

# 58 Mike C

I can't seem to email you with Safemail.

Can you let me know if you still need the generator donation?

Contact me at jfwehman - at - yahoo - dot - com.

Rgds,
Jwehman

#149 Bob's Kid

You can mention it later, if you are right, but no one will mark you. :)

I remember last weekend I said "I hope the levee holds." I was told that would not be a problem. Um hmmmm.

Read this on the Dem blog..........Hastert said.

Lawmakers have to ask themselves if it’s worth sinking possibly billions of federal dollars into rebuilding New Orleans, a low-lying city which would remain a vulnerable hurricane target even after clean up, House Speaker Dennis Hastert said Wednesday.

sort makes sense to me, doesn't it?

or do we throw good money after bad?

i certainly rebuid refineries there, I mean really

i meant wouldnt build refineries there again

189 Jammie

Yes... I am working on rebuilding my patience after losing this afternoon at about 12:14...

Classical music and shooting at a target seem to help.. still too early for the big guns.. frozen margaritas..

#67 Gordon,

My, my what a bright boy you are. And here I thought I was referring to gas prices which were already out of control before the disaster. Since we import most of our oil, the reduction in oil supply is hardly the worst aspect of this disaster. I'm much more concerned with the thousands of dead and missing, and the idiotic fuckers who are doing their level best to make the situation worse by raping and pillaging and shooting at rescue workers.

You know, the ones that the DNC supports on that blog post I linked to earlier.

You wanted to talk about energy policy, though, so I can do that as well. We need comprehensive energy reform, and environmentalists are responsible for many of the poor decisions we have made over the last thirty years or so in that regard. they didn't cause the hurricane any more than Bush did. I doubt that Rush said they did, and I certainly didn't.

I realize that reading comprehension isn't exactly your strong suit, so I won't respond to the ad hominem comment except to say that, if you are reduced to ad hominems as the only point of your argument (which means you have no factual argument at all) then, well, not to put too fine a point on it but a little creativity and originality helps. Not much, but style always counts.

Try to do better, next time. Hell, it’s not like we’re in the same room :-)

Don't let a natural catastrophe slow down your hatefest;

Anti-War Activists Plan Massive D.C. Rally

... The groups Freerepublic.com and Protest Warrior are organizing a smaller counter-demonstration. Karl Singer of Protest Warrior said the anti-war movement gets too much media coverage.

Maybe they'll catch the moonbats taunting our Pentagon dead with chants of "Allahu Akbar!"... again?

#139 louminatti

C'mon people. What's the big controversy? New Orleans has been controlled by New Orleans Democratic Party hacks for over a century. They have bled local taxpayers dry, and wasted billions of dollars over the years on anything BUT levee improvement projects. These facts are undeniable. No need to get worked up over arguments.

You said exactly what I wanted to write. I have been listening and reading the leftist rants over the past couple of days and am ready to explode.

When is a local government responsible for the protection of its citizens? The Dems are lashing out at the wrong people. They are now pissed that they got caught not being prepared and are taking it out on the President and the Republican Party.

The suffering of these folks in the South is horrible. I remember how well they stood up for us in NYC when we were hit. What is the response of the northern elite? It has been to use their suffering as a tool to embarrass a President and bring on defeat and surrender in Iraq. The NYT had the gall, the day of the storm, to blame New Orleans for their fix, I guess for the crime of building in a City that existed before the NY Times was founded.

Do the Dems want to proclaim solidarity with these subhumans?

4:15 P.M. - (AP): Police say storm victims are being raped and beaten inside the New Orleans Convention Center.

About 15,200 people who had taken shelter at the convention center to await buses grew increasingly hostile.

Police Chief Eddie Compass says he sent in 88 officers to quell the situation at the building, but they were quickly beaten back by an angry mob.

Compass says, "We have individuals who are getting raped, we have individuals who are getting beaten."

He says tourists are walking in that direction and they are getting preyed upon.

In hopes of defusing the unrest at the convention center, Mayor Ray Nagin gave the refugees permission to march across a bridge to the city's unflooded west bank for whatever relief they can find. But the bedlam appeared to make leaving difficult.

Foreign Devil

I think you are on to something. Remember that Ed Moran explained how unusually hot the Gulf was, with this, tragically, contributing to the severity of the hurricane?

It had to be hot air from shrillery...which leads to the obvious conclusion.

Air Airhead is totally off base, among a lot of other things. I hope they don't carry it in Candada.

Fellow Lizards...ahem:

I go away for a month or so, and you forget how to best deal with the Nodrog. Attempting to carry on a conversation with it is futility itself. It doesn't want to discuss, it wants attention - any attention, even if negative. It can sound like it wants to discuss, but its goal is to distract, disrupt, and divert attention to itself.
Note how subtle are its ways...it will offhandedly admit that its fellows are extremists, but follow its admission with an attack that obscures said admission.

62 Gordon - Both extremes play this game. And Rush is on the extreme right, have no doubt about it.

Sly, yes? But do not be deceived, it only want attention, not discourse.

So let us give it what it most craves:

GAZE

#180 JammieWearingFool

I don't watch CNN, so I had to check Mr. Marciano out.

You are so right!

BubbleGirl,

Classical music and shooting at a target seem to help.. still too early for the big guns.. frozen margaritas..

Mmmm. Guns and margaritas.

Of course, not mixed together.

I used to listen to the randy rhodes show for humorours purpuses... but I felt myself getting stupider each time so I quit.

To call her a moron would be to insult morons everywhere.

I remember last weekend I said "I hope the levee holds." I was told that would not be a problem. Um hmmmm.

Not me...I just had a sinking feeling, when I saw that behemouth bearing down on the Gulf coast, that it was going to be bad, and very very bad.

Unfortunately I was right about that (I have been listening to Ed for too long, I guess).

^^^^
see? a type and a misspelling. never would have happened had I not listened to her show.

202 Cattt,

I forgot to quote that. A previous poster (foreign devil) wrote that. I chimed in about saving Janice Dean from FNC, being of the male species myself.

Granted, he's a good-looking guy, I'll give him that.

#58 Mike C

Trouble with Safemail. I suppose Safemail is Nomail. Something must be wrong..

Can you contact me?

And that's why I've called the Cabinet together. The people in the affected regions expect the federal government to work with the state government and local government with an effective response. I have directed Secretary of Homeland Security Mike Chertoff to chair a Cabinet-level task force to coordinate all our assistance from Washington. FEMA Director Mike Brown is in charge of all federal response and recovery efforts in the field. I've instructed them to work closely with state and local officials, as well as with the private sector, to ensure that we're helping, not hindering, recovery efforts. This recovery will take a long time. This recovery will take years

the democrats wont touch new orleans,
they want Bush to make the calls.
if he screws up, we can blame him.
but i like him,
even when he was drunk he made more sense than Kerry.

So let us give it [Gordon] what it most craves:

Nodrog won't stay on its meds again?
What else is new?

Gordon, I have tried to be nice to you in the past. Others here are seriouly pissed at you. I never was.
But now, you and all your Democratic siblings are seriously fucked up. I think you should get the hell out of here. Charles and LGF are trying to provide a helpful service. You know that and are trying to sabotage the effort. No different than the mob in NO. Get the fuck outta here! Now!

Charles, pull the plug on this asshole once and for all.

*sigh* This country is officially Balkanized. Well, we had a pretty decent run of it. Nothing left to do now but hop down to Home Depot and buy a machete...

 #202

Catttt  9/1/2005 03:50PM PDT

#180 JammieWearingFool

I don't watch CNN, so I had to check Mr. Marciano out.

Jammie knows who the hot weather guys are! LOL~

Most ridiculous DU thread of the day ... because Louisiana State Police are just like the Nazis ...

Just remembered. I declined the email provision when signing up with Charles. Let's figure something out...

192 AtlasShrugged

Did Hastert really say that? Or is that their fantasy?

#202 Catttt: Wow! I may have to switch to CNN!

#180 JWF

Please spare Janice Dean, too. Thanks.

Yes, please! Mmmmm...Janice Dean...

/Though she does bear an uncanny resemblance to a certain psychopath that tried to....ah, nevermind. TMI.

BubbleGirl,

Jammie knows who the hot weather guys are! LOL~

I'm very comfortable with myself and not afraid to say if a guy is goodlooking. There's enough ugliness out there, so savor the good looks when you see them.

Which is why I love Fox. An astonishing array of infobabes.

Semper and others. I can email to Mike without a problem, so if you want, email to mollyshark at gmail dot com and I'll forward it on to him.

216 Semper Fi

Go into Preferences on the side bar

add your email address.. then click on save settings..

Powderfinger:

/Though she does bear an uncanny resemblance to a certain psychopath that tried to....ah, nevermind. TMI.

Do tell. Who?

#158 Rayra

Remember this golden oldie from the nodrog"s poor Mum?

they want it BOTH WAYS:

out of one side of the liberal mouth:

"So why was I thinking of starting a movement against giving aid to the stricken areas?Because these are red states. They voted for Bush. These ninnies obviously wanted these policies, and they deserve to live with the consequences of their votes."

THAT bit of hate-trash comes from a moonbat who OBVIOUSLY didn't get the OTHER MOONBATS' logic which is:

and out of the other side of the liberal mouth:

"This President is never gonna do the right thing. I think somewhere deep down inside him he takes a lot of joy about losing people, if he thinks they vote Democrat or if he thinks they’re poor, or if he thinks they’re in a blue state, whatever his reasons are not to rescue those people who are (planning?) for their safety."

And the morons wonder why their ilk couldn't even get elected to the position of dog catcher! They ALL act like John Kerry-- whatever the venue, as long as they spew hate about GW. LOL LOL It would be funny if it weren't so damn pathetic.

#58 Mike C.

Just remembered. I declined the email provision when signing up with Charles. Let's figure something out...

Pls excuse the repeat.

#20 totally sirius. they savage people like Joe Lieberman who should be their hope

OT they remind me of the kids who are "being mean" to my 8 year old at school because he's "too smart and too good at sports" I thought boys couldn't be too good at sports at school?

#215 Jheka

They complain when there is no order in the city, and they complain when they are trying to restore order.

The left is insane!

220 Jammie

True.. ..

We shall all savor away...

229 BG,

I'm off to savor some dinner.

See ya.

At his blog, Pejman Yousefzadeh nails it:

For all who have missed it, I think this recent practice of politicizing natural disasters is one of the most repellent developments in human behavior I have ever witnessed. For shame. Seriously.

#199 JammieWearingFool

You wouldn't know that from the story they just showed on MSNBC Nightly News. They showed a video of a cop driving by, who only said that "Help was coming" and honked his horn for the crowd to get outta the way. Portraying it as though the cops don't give a sh*t about the people there.

NRO links to an ebay auction.

Private security types are auctioning their services.

James Taranto observes;

Last year, when hurricane Charley struck Florida, the complaint was that Bush was too responsive.

"Even before the storm hit, the president declared four counties disaster areas to speed federal money to victims," CBS News reported a year ago. "But that quick response fueled suspicion that he is using disaster politics to help his campaign in one of the most critical battleground states."

The people at DU and KOS are those kids from Middle School... the ones you couldn't stand, they complained about everything, whined, and hung out by themselves talking to the trees.... and sad the most stupidest things...

And here they are... all grown up!

235 PIMF

And "said" the stupidest things...

/obviously I never learned to write..

163 the only thing harder to explain than the appeal of Randy Roadie is the military's insistence on changing their patches/ranks. My husband's been in 13 years, and he keeps having to buy different stuff.

Here's my LLL conspiracy theory that I'm offering free of charge to Kos, DU, Air America, and the rest (their name is legion):

"Bush and his fatcat buddies have been worried that black people have been getting too much equality in recent years; they even felt compelled to appoint some token blacks to the Bush regime cabinet (although they made sure these were Stepin Fetchit types who wouldn't question Massa's orders). So, they deliberately withheld warning to inner-city New Orleans about the coming disaster, knowing this would lead to lots of t.v. footage of black people looting and rioting, thereby damaging the image of blacks everywhere. This is a plot to set civil rights back 50 years, and it's working perfectly."

Ha! I mean, you can't disprove this, can you? So it's true! See, it's fun to think like an LLL fruitloop.

Here is another sickening piece by asshat liberal Newsweek columnist Howard Fineman.

He basically opines that the country will now be REALLY MAD at Bush, etc.

This makes me mad: the people are not even out of the flood areas, yet, and people like Fineman are trying to make political hay out of them.

Fineman's Asshat Piece

#222 Bubble Girl

That tip worked nicely. Thanks

#158 Rayra

For what it's worth, there is this.

#215 Jheka,

Wow. They support the looters on the DNC site and rail against the Police on DU. At least they are consistant.

 #238

Occasional Reader  9/1/2005 04:07PM PDT

Here's my LLL conspiracy theory that I'm offering free of charge to Kos, DU, Air America, and the rest (their name is legion):

It's too bad you didn't charge for this.. it's a beauty... actually better than some of their own conspiracies.

Yes, we need more refineries! Stop the environmental wackos!

[Link: www.refineryreform.org...]

Refinery pollution impacts in 'nam Grunt's neck of the woods:

[Link: www.sierraclub.org...]

#223 JWF

Hopefully, no one you'd know. Just someone who really didn't want to take "Adios" for an answer...

#210 ibmkeyboard DING DING DING give the man his prize!

BG

they complained about everything, whined, and hung out by themselves talking to the trees....

I thought they talked to telephone poles?
Yeah, that's it, now they talk to telephone poles and hug the trees...

I don't know if somebody's posted this already, but if the Dems are going crazy now, just wait until they read that Speaker Denny Hastert doesn't think we should rebuild New Orleans. That'll really get their underwear in a wad.

244 Gordon

Go blow it out your grateful dead oil-dripping VW van tailpipe......

Charles,

I second the motion made in #212 above.

I think I might have smelled something like this coming.

Nodrog,

GAZE

(Man, you still look pretty nasty through the thermal sights...you know, a bath every so often isn't considered a bad thing...)

#215 Jheka

My God, the DUmmies are imbeciles! I guess they haven't heard (or don't care) about the looting, the arson and the armed gangs and they won't let the facts get in the way of a cheap shot. DUers should be teleported into downtown New Orleans and left to fend for themselves without police protection.

Guys -- Read the damned blog. I did. Yes, it's partisan, but but Hastert said something really stupid, like "Screw Them" Kos.

New Orleans IS worth rebuilding.

#243 Bubble Girl:

And the beauty of my gen-you-wine LLL conspiracy theory is, it ties in neatly to all the "Bush cut funding for the levies!" stuff they're already plumping. See, Bush knew! Now we just have to wait for Howard Dean to cite my work as "the most interesting theory I've heard...".

If you haven't seen the MSNBC Convention Center footage, go here and click "launch."

And here's some news about the refinery in El Segundo, California, near Charles' favorite bicycle ride:

[Link: yosemite.epa.gov...]

And the El Segundo plant has some problems below the surface too:

[Link: www.facworld.com...]

On August 30, 2000, California state regulators fined Chevron $2.25 million for a pipeline leak that released about 4.5 million gallons of jet fuel into the Old Sand Dune Aquifer underneath its El Segundo refinery. The leak allegedly commenced sometime in early 1998 and continued until February 1999. Chevron will also have to pay cleanup and monitoring costs. This is the third fine Chevron has paid for environmental violations at El Segundo facilities in the past three months. The previous two fines totaled $8 million.

247 Desert Sage

Hug trees, talk to telephone poles and never quit wetting the bed!

254 Hastert did say something stupid unless he's been dowdified. I surely hope he said they would have to not rebuild it in its former storm susceptible form or that many buildings would have to me moved, um, to Baton Rouge or something? Politics sadly is not the calling for our country's best and brightest on either side of the aisle

 #255

Occasional Reader  9/1/2005 04:14PM PDT

#243 Bubble Girl:

And the beauty of my gen-you-wine LLL conspiracy theory is, it ties in neatly to all the "Bush cut funding for the levies!" stuff they're already plumping. See, Bush knew! Now we just have to wait for Howard Dean to cite my work as "the most interesting theory I've heard...".

Yes, I have already heard the Bush "cut funding for the levies." And how sad you will be when your theory ends up as a major Dem talking point! No commission for you!

#248 Rick Moore -- "I don't know if somebody's posted this already, but if the Dems are going crazy now, just wait until they read that Speaker Denny Hastert doesn't think we should rebuild New Orleans. That'll really get their underwear in a wad."

Ironic. That's the same theme of the LLL. New Orleans was too overdeveloped, too reckless in the face of nature, people are paying the price for developers greed yada yada yadda. So now Hastert raises the issue in a responsible context and he gets flack from the LLL? It's too funny.

As for me, I say rebuild, bigger, grander and safer. That's what we should do in New York, that's what we should do in New Orleans -- that's the American way. I have to believe that is the spirit of the Great State of Louisiana.

#212 and #250: Mommy, mommy, MAKE THEM STOP!

Typical LGF loonies, you can dish it out, but you can't take it.

Losers.

Any comment on this item would be superfluous:

[Link: www.newsday.com...]

Desert Sage, Bubble Girl
And when somebody finally has enough of them and pops them one, they nearly always say: "That didn't hurt me!" through the tears.

#257 Gordon

Gee Gordo, I guess that was Bush's fault also?
So why aren't you posting this on Kos site, you and the other loonies could have a field day with this stuff.

I still don't think you're very happy here. I really get the sense that you're trying to provoke a fight. How about the DU? You can go in there and yuk it up with your buddies and have a grand old time.

Unless New Orleans is raised above the flood level like Galveston, Texas was done after the 1900 Hurricane, I think Dennis Hastert has hit the nail on the head.

In a similar vein, the beachfront homes along Mississippi's Gulf Coast should not be rebuilt, or should at least not be encouraged by the federal government to rebuild through FEMA programs.

You know, this is stupid.
My guess is 98% of these people were just plain fucking stupid not to get the hell out. My g-d, everyone saw the news and the way the damn media hypes things - hell they even cut away from the bitch in the ditch for it.
No doubt there were some who were unable to get out - or stayed - for entirely legitimate reasons. The rest ignored the facts about what was coming.
And, on top of that, what was predicted to hit was even worse!
This is clear and vivid evidence of Darwinism in action.

Now they bitch because they want help, and it's the governments fault. Sorry, it's YOUR fault for not listening. But of course the media is playing up to them..."where is the help..."
Send the police, NG, etc in...adults seen looting, committing crimes, etc shoot on sight. That's the only thing these animals understand. After a day or so they'll get a clue.

Gawd I HATE STUPID PEOPLE!

Wow, so sad that the Left will play politics at a time like this. It really shows their derangement -- it terrifies me that they could be in charge some day.

OT:

Kicked in my 100 clams this morning -- United Jewish Communities Katrina Fund (www.ujc.org) and of course the Red Cross.

Now I KNOW that Rayra's right - "Nodrog" is a computer in a college building with an identity guide next to the screen.

That explains all the green vapor coming out of it's "mouth"...

#262 Gordon

We're adults, we can take it (whatever "it" is). You've been posting here a long time without being bounced and I see no need for that now.

Nothing will be rebuilt unless it fits code... so there will have to be major restructuring in New Orleans. Some areas may be condemned. Some of the areas along the coast will not be able to rebuild as the government has laws now that you cannot rebuild on the beach if too much of the island has been wiped out.. you have to move back or not build at all.

#265 Desert Sage: Sorry to spoil the "echo chamber" effect for you. I know critical thinking is a difficult concept, but I suggest you try it every now and then.

let gordon stay. we don't want to have to find another idiot for our village!

The levee thing...

New Orleans is sinking, literally, into the ground, not as a result of the storm. Years of trying to steer running water has negative consequences. Nobody has yet designed the perfect levee. The Dutch are as close as anyone. It takes decades, lots of money, and foresight. Even if a levee system seems perfect, a major hurricane can overwhelm it or knock it down. Multiple giant levees would be a better option until it becomes more cost-efficient to move the city or raise the city.

Two words: high ground. That's the cure-all for storm surge, flooding, and tsunamis all wrapped into one package. If the high ground is an active volcano, oops.

#50 nodroG

Rush Limbaugh blaming gasoline shortages arising from Hurricane Katrina on "evironmentalist wackos"

How many blends of gasoline does one nation need? Since the states can exceed federal requirements and there are three basic octane levels, it could be over 150. This is not the way to ensure a steady supply of gasoline.

#86 --- So, basically, Bush gave Congress all the money Congress asked for. So, why is the left bitching? It's not like Bush would have vetoed the bill if Congress asked for more money. Bush has never vetoed a spending bill.

oh no gordo went off his prozac again. better stop posting gordo, with all the 2 dollar hand jobs you will have to give to support your drug needs(prozac, xanix, weed whatever) your in danger of cramping. better take lots of fluids........... eww gross gordo not those fluids you are a lost cause.

dont ban the gordo! i like the "a+b = what ever i need it to be logic" and insane ramblings of retard gordo to much

# 275 F B

Bush has never vetoed a bill of **any** type ...
:-(

Like I've posted before, they should legalize gambling in N.O. and turn it into a resort where most of the employees would commute from new communities at higher ground. Only the historical cash-cow areas would be rebuilt (in such a way that they would withstand future hurricanes and floods) and the cuisine, music and cultural idea of New Orleans would be preserved. But there would be no slums, no crime and no politics. New Orleans would be (dramatic musical cue!) a CORPORATION.

Or a third-world swimming hole. Choose wisely, social architects...

#267 mr creosote

No doubt there were some who were unable to get out - or stayed - for entirely legitimate reasons. The rest ignored the facts about what was coming.

Exactly! It's called taking responsibility for your decisions, which is sorely lacking in some people.

We saw one woman who was interviewed after she was rescued. She very eloquently stated that she was just so angry at herself for not leaving and putting herself in this situation.

Not taking personal responsibility in one's life leads to a victim mentality that is very sad and counterproductive in our type of free society.

Rush Limbaugh blaming gasoline shortages arising from Hurricane Katrina on "evironmentalist wackos"

The same environmentalist whackos who mandate 50 different fuel blends for the sake of marginal environmental impacts? The same environmentalist whackos who prevent drilling in ANWR, off the California coast, off the Florida coast, and pretty much anywhere else in the U.S.? The environmentalist whackos who have prevented the construction of a new refinery in the U.S. for 20 years?

Sounds like Rush is right on that one.

Sounds like Mommy didn't cut the crusts off of a certain young man's bag lunch Velveeta sandwich again!

#266 Gordon

In a similar vein, the beachfront homes along Mississippi's Gulf Coast should not be rebuilt, or should at least not be encouraged by the federal government to rebuild through FEMA programs.

Oh yes, as usual I totally agree with you. *spit* They is lots a “earl money” in them thar ney-bah-hoods theyah. Come on, lets face it…those folks must have cheated, lied, stolen and embezzled to get to where they got to. Plus, they don't pay taxes, and surely voted for Bush. Screw them, right Gordo? What a maroon!

#274 Beagle

High ground - yes. I live in a basement, but it's on a nice big hill with lost of solid rock under it.

Now is the time to remind companies about telecommuting. I fill my gas tank about every other month.