JihadWatch is also on the story:

[Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]
 

Not that weird beards are the rarest things amongst students his age, but... hmmm.

Have we heard if any of his leftist professors have awarded him posthumos extra credit for "legitimately resisting" Amerikkka and the Bushitler regime?

ok..that's scary.

kind of makes you think we need a fence on the border, not only to keep nuts out of here, but to kick stupid idiots out of here!

Good job MSM...

This story is a real test of the mainstream media and the government. If they try to whitewash the Islam out of this crime, as happened in the Oklahoma City bombing, my low level of trust will drop to nothing.

Pretending a problem does not exist is what I expect in the former Soviet Union, Iran, Saudi Arabia, or China, not the United States.

This report says he tried to purchase ammonium nitrate (same stuff used to blow up the Alfred Murrah federal building) 4 days before the bombing:

[Link: www.newsok.com...]

He also had ties to a Pakistani student...
 

Well, at least he Darwined himself and no one else.

He started attending a mosque... and had a Pakistani roommate also.

What I'd like to see is an in-depth and detailed investigative piece that explains why the powers that be, the US government, other law enforcement, in this case the university's administration, and just about all of the media tries so hard to ignore or bury any Islamic connection. What are they afraid of?

Well said Beagle, but I'm not holding my breath...
 

This should be the lead story in all newspapers and television news, so why isn't it?

The President of U of OK (former Sen David Boren) Wrote Preface to at least one U of OK published book that: describes how most of Islam during most of its history has applied the teachings of the Prophet so as to treat other ethnic groups, cultures and faiths — especially the Jewish and Christian monotheists — with respect, tolerance, and fairness.There's also all of the 9/11 connections to Norman, OK. I'm not saying Hinrichs was the 20th hijacker, just that there seems to be a problem in the heartland. The media has NOT covered this story. I know pipe-bombs and the like occur now and then with no ties to terror, and I know he could be a lone wolf.

I propose that we immediately change the American flag to a red crescent, and adopt Sharia Law. It's the only way to prevent terrorism.

#11 Carolyn

This should be the lead story in all newspapers and television news, so why isn't it?

I'm thinkin' that the media may have been "leaned" on a little bit to not run the story while investigations are ongoing.

I posted a U of OK MSA Photo Album (Yahoo) earlier this evening, and I tried to see if I spotted him there, since it was at his school. My eyes/mind aren't good... I didn't see him, but that means little.

I know how distrustful these sources are, so take this with a grain of salt, but I know a guy who knew a guy who knew Hinrichs. We were walking past one of the dorm rooms on campus, and he pointed at a certain window and said, "That's where he lived."

A flag with an Islamic star and crescent was draped inside the window.

Probably not the same guy's place, though. People are really bad about rumors here.

PIMF, dorm buildings on campus, not dorm rooms.

According to the bomber's father, this was not a politically motivated act.

SwampWoman,
Probably, but if it was Koresh or some other "Christian" (McVeigh)...it would be on the frontpage for sure!

# 8 e

Has the Pakistani roomate been confimred? (i.e. link, please)

I mean, **I** once roomed with a Pakistani for a semester ...

/hey, what's with the suspicious looks?

This deal isn't over by a longshot. Was Heinrichs attending MSA meetings. What happened to the Paki roomate? Are the local cops in charge of the investigation or the Campus Barney Phyfes? What is the ATF and FBI role in the investigation? Lots of questions and no answers yet.

#14 SwampWoman

I'm thinkin' that the media may have been "leaned" on a little bit to not run the story while investigations are ongoing.

I guess it was a natural 'leaning' (i.e., lefty) that the MSM was exercising during last years Rathergate episode.

According to the bomber's father, this was not a politically motivated act.

#14 SwampWoman

I'm thinkin' that the media may have been "leaned" on a little bit to not run the story while investigations are ongoing.

Where's all their bluster about "speaking truth to power" or "courage" when it comes to Islam? Robert Spencer's book, still planted on the NYT bestseller list, has yet to get a mainstream review in any newspaper.

Conspiracy theorists, take note. The ONLY group which appears to pull strings at all times is Islam. No piggies, flags, or ice cream cones for us.

Why don't our news providers and government 'protectors' just break for prayer five times a day and get it over with? Stick your asses in the air, dhimmis.

In this country we had better find out a way to legally declare that islam is not a religion, thus stripping it of its undeserved constitutional protection.

Then we need to outlaw it, and vigorously, physically, extripate it from our midst.

Otherwise one of these islamics, even a self-invented one, is going to do us enormous damage.

I think we better do this soon.

#18 krazykounselor

According to the bomber's father, this was not a politically motivated act.

Brilliant. Who would know a college student (away from home) better than his parents?

Oh yeah, just about anybody.

Has the Pakistani roomate been confimred? (i.e. link, please)

The video report linked in #6 mentions the pakistani link and the attempted ammonium nitrate purchase.
 

IMO he just got buck fever and hit the switch too early. . . he was 100 yds from the stadium. I doubt he was "just" committing suicide. It was his intention to take a whole lotta Sooners with him.

I saw the video report from the local media where the feed store owner interviewed told how he refused the sale of the amonnium nitrate.

Something is going on here.

He was a domestic terrorist, and my speculation is that he was tilted that way by the ultra-left leaning faculty of his institution of higher learning.

When you hear the rhetoric, it is not a far leap to make, from student to human bomb.

# 27 W

Thx.!

Okay, now I'm scared. I have a daughter who's a geoengineering major at a petrochemical emphacist university with a significant Saudi presence...Help!

Hmm...going by the latest mug shot of Mr. Hinrichs, he looks somewhat like the average Paleswine "Man On The Street (camel path?)"...just another multiculturally enlightened individual deciding to go the ROP route, I guess...what is the background on this guy?...could it be he was just a wee bit ahead of the curve from his other splodeydope pals on campus?... Oh well, unstable chemical compounds will do it every time...and the MSM is exactly where on reporting this?

World Net Daily says that triacetone triperoxide was found in his apt. TATP is one of the most sensitive explosives known, being extremely sensitive to impact, temperature change and friction. Could explain why it may have gone off prematurely.

Was it confirmed that he was striking matches while he sat on the bench?

He blew his own ass up but he was a good boy!

U of OK Pres David Boren was meeting with Tenet on 9/11 (OU Daily) /moonbat off. It appears Boren has a Foggy Bottom (prefaces to loving intos to Islam, schmoozing with Saudi Amb in 2002). This helps explain his reluctance to say anything, besides the normal reluctance of leaders to say or do anything controversial. Plus, he probably wishes the thing would just go away (which the press is guaranteeing).

I dont know the current relationship between OU and the Magic Kingdom, but at the time I was hired to work for the Saudi government, an OU faculty member, caucasion American, was present in the room as an advisor to the Saudis. He was well paid by the Saudis and later, I saw him several times in the Kingdom. He always passed himself off as an Administrator at OU, rather than as an independent contractor.

#34 Stuck

He blew his own ass up but he was a good boy!

I'm sorry, that's funny.

"He didn't mean anybody no harm, he just stuffed his backpack with high-explosives and went down to the packed stadium. Everything they say is bullshit!"

It has occurred to me that the appropriate authorities (Federal, not college and maybe not even State) are VERY MUCH AWARE of this guy and what he was planning on doing (with all those explosives in his room (assuming there really were all that many explosives that it would take over 24 hours to remove them safely)and were in fact watching him as part of a cell. I mean, if he really intended suicide, why two bombs? If he really meant to kill as many people as possible then why leave the obviousl vast majority of explosives in his room>
Hey LanceKates, the LGF Oklahoma Op, have you been able to dig up any new or different information?

And Sherry Glaser's bare saggy tits did not stop this bomb.

This video report also says he went to the same mosque as Zacarias Moussaoui, the 20th 9/11 hijacker:

[Link: www.newsok.com...]
 

Colin Cowherd (Yes, that's his real name) of all people, the whacky offbeat morning guy (well,9-noon CDT) on ESPN Radio, of all people, did a rant/tirade about this very topic this morning.

His callers after said tirade had not heard word one about it, and thought he was makin' stuff up.

# 38 rw

No link handy, but IIRC there weren't actually 2 bombs, just the one he 'doped himself with ...

Move along folks, nothing to see here, keep moving. Go on about your business, we have everygthing under control.

Our enemies remind me of the zombies in The Night of the Living Dead. They just keep on coming and killing. Cannibals.

(The link takes you to a trailer for the 1968 classic horror movie.)

The question that troubles me:

How many more of these bastards are out there? We know they are out there. It is just a matter of time.

#18 krazykounselor

According to the bomber's father, this was not a politically motivated act.

#23 William

Mohammed Atta Sr. says the same thing about his son, go figure.

#34 stuck in california

He blew his own ass up but he was a good boy!

Remember "johnny talibans father said, "john is a good boy"

I will never understand why any western person would convert to this death-cult. I mean really, the sun sets in a muddy puddle? 72 virgins...please.

#14 SwampWoman

#11 Carolyn

This should be the lead story in all newspapers and television news, so why isn't it?

I'm thinkin' that the media may have been "leaned" on a little bit to not run the story while investigations are ongoing.

The Lamestream Media got their fingers burned after the OKC bombing when Islamic terrorists were immediately assumed to be the perps. When they turned out to be white and non-Muslim, the media types were highly embarassed. Then later, when rumors of Al-Qaeda connections surfaced, they "didn't want to go there". A Muslim on a "terrorist watch list" would have to be arrested in this case before they even mention Islam here.

#47 Carolyn

I will never understand why any western person would convert to this death-cult. I mean really, the sun sets in a muddy puddle? 72 virgins...please.

It strokes the ego of the insecure and the "powerless".

One benign reason for the Muslim presence in OK (and the U of OK) is that OK is oil country. I couldn't figure out why so many Muslims seemed to be there. Now the question is are they moderate?/tongue out of cheek

move along, nothing to see here
move along, nothing to see here
move along, nothing to Bam!

Looks like OU is going to step up security at future home games.

ALSO:

While saying it appears no one else is connected to the bombing, Boren made a shift in describing Hinrich’s death by saying, “I do not say suicide, I say it’s an individual death that we’re dealing with. That’s all we really know.”

#40, William. After seeing that news report, there is no doubt that the little Jihadi fucked up and didn't take anyone with him. Is the OU Muslim Student Association going to give him a pothumus Splody Dope Merit Badge? As I said a month ago, do you know what is going on in your campus mosque now that the MSA is back from summer camp and at full strength? Will Boomer Sooner get his virgins?

#40 William

That's the clincher. The story has him in a mosque and hanging with Pakistanis. Combine that with the hideous beard and I'm convinced.

College, as predicted, has become the new recruting ground for nouveau jihadis. Ward Churchill, Robert Jensen, and Hatem of Berkeley were unavailable for comment, but seen doing the happy dance.

How much longer will our media, government, and higher education cover for, even enable, our enemies? Stay tuned. We wouldn't want to offend any peace-loving Muslims.

I think the list needs its first (should be second, Jayna Davis: The Third Terrorist) Oklahoma entry.

Re media blackout: It's more than because it was first assumed OKC bombing was the work of Muslims - ANY minority is treated differently in news reporting. Also, people feel foolish when they think they are seeing terrorism, esp Islamic terror, where none exists. I could see this as a case of a radicalized lone wolf, like the DC snipers. Their links to Islam were downplayed, but with a name like John Mohammed, it was hard...

I plan on watching the OU/Texas game this weekend.

If the OU cheerleaders are wearing burkhas, should we be concerned?

# 55 B

John ALLEN Muhammad ...

:-)

Night all

You stick a bomb on your back, sit on a bench, and it blows up and it's not a suicide?

WTF?

#47 Carolyn

"I will never understand why any western person would convert to this death-cult."

Just go over to DU or Koz.
Same thing.
They believe the US is responsible for all the evil in the world. So they blow up a few Sooner fans or a few ROTC buildings, or rob a few banks.

# 59 s

It's looking more and more like a "work accident" ...
:-(

follow the money--is there a SAudi P.R check involved here for any former pols?

Also I seem to recall that last name Hinrichs associated with great wealth. anyone else know that?

And why is Oklahoma a target again.Maybe it is like Herndon Va and Lodi, Ca infested with jihadis.

Yes!

Where was OSHA!

#59 stuck in california

You stick a bomb on your back, sit on a bench, and it blows up and it's not a suicide?

Premature asplodation.

Jihadi or not, it might be that he intended to detonate in the stadium and take lots of folks with him.

Muslim Student Association of U of OK (Yahoo photo album)I couldn't see him here, but my eyes/brain are working (as usual).

OT: I just thought about the bombing (2002?) in the French plant/factory - I always thought it was terror, but I could see the reasons why leaders would fib.

Holy freaking sh*t. I have been convinced for days something was fishy here... but had begun chastising myself for wasting so much time reading what seemed to be conspiracy theories on Free Republic.

This should be the lead news story tomorrow. Will it? Not a chance. Remember, Islam means peace.

krazykounselor

the brit bomber's parents called police to report their kid missing
when the police realized the pic matched the head of one of the splodeydopers
(the head gets safely popped off a suicide bomber, while the body is obliterated)
they had their first identity, and it helped the
investigation
[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

If the kid had said "hey, I'm going to bomb the subway now, don't let on if the police come around asking questions" do you think his parents would have allowed him to continue?

unless, of course, you believe this:
[Link: www.prisonplanet.com...]

#40 William I find it interesting from that news report that the Soonersplodey just disapears for a year. Then comes back to OU.
Hmmm.

Maybe training like a good little OBL foot soldier?

This is why the MSM is useless.
Investigate Walmart? They are all over it.
Investigate exploding pick up trucks? They are all over it. (even if they have to blow them up themselves)

Investigate exploding college students?

chirp...chirp...

#59 stuck in california

You stick a bomb on your back, sit on a bench, and it blows up and it's not a suicide?

WTF?

TATP is noted for being tempermental. There's no reason to assume he intended to kill himself at this point. He did kill himself, but it's looking more and more like he wanted to kill other people.

If law enforcement doesn't come down on the Norman mosque like Hulagu Khan, we're living in fantasy-PC-Saudi-money land. Which is probably the case.

# 64 S N

Except there is the matter of timing -- was he supposed to 'dope at kickoff, between quarters, halftime, after a 1st down that brought the ball somewhere between the 40 yd. lines -- who knows?

but why was he sitting on a bench yards away during the 2nd qtr.?

U of OK Pres (& former Senator) David Boren has friends in high places. He was meeting with George Tenet the am of 9/11, and had a list of dignataries to his Univ in 2002, including the Saudi Ambassador. Much of the Muslim presence can simply be explained by the oil industry in OK (including the Univ's eng dept).

#70 buckaroo

but why was he sitting on a bench yards away during the 2nd qtr.?

Perhaps at halftime, it would have been crowded outside. (i.e. grab a smoke, get a beer, etc.)

Paul Williams just now coming on air on Coast to Coast AM, talking about the nuclear threat on American soil.

#70

( but why was he sitting on a bench yards away during the 2nd qtr.?)

Cause it's hot in Norman now, and you can't carry a backpack into a stadium without getting searched. Jackets and coats are out of the question. At UA they search large handbags, coolers are outlawed, those funky fannypacks are looked into, you get the picture.

What's left? Why you wait until folks start to leave and then blow yourself up and take a bunch with you. Or get there early and do the same. But there are more cops than you can shake a stick at all around the stadium.

#70 Buckaroo

Except there is the matter of timing -- was he supposed to 'dope at kickoff, between quarters, halftime, after a 1st down that brought the ball somewhere between the 40 yd. lines -- who knows?

but why was he sitting on a bench yards away during the 2nd qtr.?

Almost certainly waiting for lots of people to come that way during halftime. He probably didn't have a ticket, so might not have been able to get in...

Did anyone else notice that this explosive is called the "Mother of Satan"? That seems like an odd nome for a favorite explosive of the Religion of Peace.

Hmm.

Note to self:

Sometimes it's best to refresh the page before posting... otherwise you'll look foolish making the same point someone else made several minutes earlier.

Listen Carefully!

If anyone here has not read the book "The Third Terrorist", by Jayna Davis I recommend you read that book immediately. This story sounds very similar in many ways to the Oklaholma City bombing.

The book details how multiple witnesses identified at least two other middle eastern suspects at the scene. In this most recent bombing, one of the blogs (I cannot recall which one)reports an eyewitness to the suicide bombing say two middle eastern looking men run from the scene and back into the stadium.

The book discusses how middle east terrorists look to recruit "lilly white" co-conspirators to carry out acts and thereby take the fall for the attacks, while the real planners for such terrorist acts go free.

This is not some wacky consipiracy book written by a fringe author making silly connections. It is very well documented by a veteran news reporter from one of the local OK networks.

This Henrich's guy seems to fit the bill as a lilly white recruit. I don't want to rehash the book, but if you read it and the story about this most recent bombing, the similarities are unmistakable.

#77 Spiney Norman

LOL! Happens to me all the time. By the time I'm done typing, someone else has said it. Think I'll get me one o' them Mavis Beacon "Learn to type" CDs.

The Islamic literature, particularly the "how to" aspect of it, can be explained by the fact that someone wanting to learn how to assemble a bomb can find that crap on Jihadi websites. You are not likely to find it on Bhuddist websites now are you?

Personally, I become immediately suspicious when authorities tell me that "terrorism was not involved" while the crime scene is still being roped off. Boren was talking before any kind of complete investigation could have been undertaken, let alone completed.

Stop Hillary,

But how do you explain that he had started attending mosque, particularly the same mosque attended by Mouassoui? Also simply to acquire bomb making expertise?

I see that no one else has noted his Glen Scarpellian ability to pose exactly the same way in every picture taken of him.

Nick Berg Went to U of OK (OU Daily)

When looking for info on the U of OK and/or Pres Boren, I kept finding conspiracy stuff from the LEFT. U of OK Newspaper (OU Daily)- The local paper doesn't seem to know/care about the jihadi info.

83 Baldy,

Wasn't there also a link between Mouassaoui and Berg? I seem to recall they had been friends or used the same computer or something?

Oh that's right, it's Ramadan. There's been talk of a "Great Ramadan Offensive." Of course, there's ALWAYS talk of bombs during Ramadan.

#81 Abu Maven -- "But how do you explain that he had started attending mosque, particularly the same mosque attended by Mouassoui? Also simply to acquire bomb making expertise?"

How do we really know that he started attending a mosque? How do we really know that he had a missing Pakistani roommate?

I'm not saying that the terror theory is wrong. In fact, as authorities tried to dismiss it before they couldn possibly have beene acquainted with all the facts, suggests to me that terror very well may have been involved. Still, everything he did was consistent with a nut job killing himself in style for attention, or planning a "Columbine" style massacre that had nothing to do with Islamic connections.

I am disappointed, but not the least surprised, that the MSM is ignoring this instead of asking questions and seeking answers.

#84 Abu Maven - Supposedly, Nick Berg loaned his computer/password to Mouassaoui, OR to a friend of Mouassaoui's. IIRC, while on a bus to U of OK, which reinforces lefties view Nick was a CIA spy.

I see a lot of smoke here but no fire.

FWIW, my nephew, who knew Hinrichs, says that he, Hinrichs, did have crank-libertarian/anarchist leanings. That is not at all unusual among 21 year old Coloradoans. OTOH, my nephew had never heard or seen any indication that Hinrichs was sympathetic to jihad.

The reports we are seeing are certainly interesting and the bigger story may be the way the media are stonewalling them. Much of it is unconfirmed, however; and some, like the Paki roommate, may be completely innocent.
It needs some additional investigation but I think we should avoid a connect-the-dots mentality, seeing patterns where there are none.

88
fwiw
your post is worthless

re: FWIW

#88, Shiplord Kirel. See the link on williams post at #40.

#91 gymnist

#88, Shiplord Kirel. See the link on williams post at #40.

It's also at #90 (FWIW)

#86 Stop Hillary - I agree with you. I wish MORE of the media would cover this. Someone blows themself up near a stadium filled with 85,000 people. No matter what his reasons, one would think this would be an important news story. Maybe if he was into Nazism, we would know all, including his bowling history. I'm not saying he was a jihadi, but the bearded photo, from his school paper, looks odd. When I saw the beard...

*gymnast*

Sorry.

Right you are cobra, we overlapped. Now I can't get this coalfired steam operated box to bring it up at either link. not enough pressure at the framus valve I guess.

It's also at #6.

In my opinion, this should be the primary link feautured by Charles. The fact that he was attending the same mosque as Moussaoui is pretty hard to dismiss. White Christian kids from Colorado do not simply start attending mosque and buying explosives in order to commit suicide.

#88 Shiplord Kirel - If I were a jihadi, I wouldn't let others, except true believers, in on it. Still, thank you for your post.

#95

not enough pressure at the framus valve I guess.

Hmmn. Have you checked your framus demodulator? Sound as if it may be stuck.

LOOK at his beard. Whenever I see one like that, unless he has a yarmulke on, or his a folk singer, I get itchy. Beard + bomb = many more questions, IMO. Maybe I'm generalizing...

but I think we should avoid a connect-the-dots mentality, seeing patterns where there are none.

But there clearly is a pattern: white kid starts attending mosque, hanging out with Pakistanis, attempting to buy large cache of explosives, blows himself up near 84,000, etc. The only question is what conclusions to draw from such pattern.

Baldy

Maybe he's Amish?

Hey, let's just say it:

America has now had its first Muslim Splodeydope

Looks like what we have here is a boy walking in the footsteps of John Walker Lynde (sp?). He looks more Muj than Goth, even if he was from Colorado.

Not that the difference matters much... but, imitation bad-guy jihadi splodydope. What a dumbass. The result? Can we get serious now? A wannabe almost did it and we'll fuck around?

I think my dog is spelling islam sucks in her shit too. Maybe another worthless post. I'm tired and going to bed. Night

No, we won't get serious. This won't wake anyone up. Sad to say it, but if he actually splodeydoped and killed 20 people or so inside the stadium, then people may have taken notice.

Because that didn't happen, this gets ignored, except for places like here.

#104, smart dog. Does it know any other tricks.

#101 cobra - Could be ;) Well good night everyone. zzzthere appear to be more articles about him now, especially after the attempted purchase of TATP article came out.

#106 gymnast

Beagle said it first on another thread. I should have echoed, "my dog too."

I do have a smart dog.:)

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Mohammed taking with Paul Williams on George Noory's radio show (Coast to Coast?). Mohammed is not happy...

George Noory tells Mohammed to see "Flight Plan."

George Noory, one of America's most famous Arabs. It never occurred to me before, until I typed his name.

#106 gymnast

#104, smart dog. Does it know any other tricks.

LOL. Actually, this has been a running joke since Religion of Silly Seething , wheras the resemblance between the Arabic symbol for "allah" (may piss be upon him) and an ice cream confection was discussed. And somehow, it became dogshit. (go figure)

I read to much LFG. Last night I dreamed I was the #2 man in Al Qaida. (only better looking) and the CIA turned me and I was going to kill Osama.

#113 hazzyday

You dreamed you were a pig about to eat bacon?
oink!

I imagine he was not alone and was imitating London bombers and picked the biggest crowded target he could find. The person with him must have gotten nervous and ran leaving their bomb behind. This must of screwed his nerves up so that he blew himself up. Dumb kid wanting to find a way to be notorius.

ON THE NET...

Note:
I provided updates/links on this thread:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Lets see if CBS had a fake unproven memo about a Republican advising this kid. The media would be all over it like wurms on a piece of spam that had been sitting in the Okie sun for a week. But hints at jihadi fun at OU need to be hidden? There is no reason not to pull at the truth of this story. This kid would have had an internet track record, it would be interesting to see what is on it. he would have attended meetings somewherem, took certain classes... la la la...

ON THE NET...

Note:
I provided updates/links on this thread:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

This incident should provide enough probable cause for a wiretap on the mosque this suicide bomber was attending.

#14 Swampwoman--a lot of folks dismiss the internet as the 'inner-nut'. I explain some of these stories to them like Rathergate, and theys say where was it in the L.A. Times? Oh not reported? You believe the internet news?

There was a 29 yr old man that blew his hands off recently near where I live. The Police were so blase about it, saying "oh he was just assembling a pipe-bomb".
The area where the man lived has 2 military bases within wlaking distance. Both bases are key WOT-fighting bases. Important ones. And the story is treated as "Nothing to see here--move along"...

UPDATE...

Crossposting for fyi purposes:

[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]

OT but keeping with the bomb theme, anyone hear about the idiot:

An army sergeant walked into a Tucson bank and handed the teller a note that said he had a bomb in his mouth. Things went badly for the would-be robber and he ended up on his knees handcuffed to a pole with a robot probing his mouth for a bomb. There was no bomb.

say cheese

#123 Rayra

Yeah, and I bet his father grows one this week too to continue his denial that his son wasn't converted. "What a beard? Oh, everyone grows them in our family... doesn't mean we're terrorists. He was a nice boy...blah-denial-blah."

Don't expect any govt. agency to give information about connections to jihad. If they could say it was a traffic accident they would. The beltway sniper and his little friend were alienated loners. What else is new?

A good article on this by Vernon Richards, posted at Faithfreedom: [Link: www.faithfreedom.org...]

Yes, things are getting suspicious here.

Now, I would be surprised if a technical student did not know about the properties of ammonium nitrate. But all the rest isn't good.

We're talking about a tiny minority of extremists. How many people attended the game, and how many people 'sploded themselves?

See? When you do the math it isn't so scary.

Don't worry - I'm sure the FBI is all over it.

/sarc not needed

#71 Baldy

There's more . . .Boren requested that the frat house to which Joel Hinrichs belonged to, should house Pakistani students for protection after 9/11.

"Triangle minutes

Specifically the statement is in the presidents report segment for 09-23-01 (Meeting #6):

- "I went to the forum on race relations on campus after the WTC tragedy on Thursday. We may be getting a call from Dean Cintron on putting together a safe house for people who feel threatened. The President of the Pakistani student association was assaulted. We'll be hearing from her about that sometime this week."

Due to the park bench setting, yesterday some cyber friends and I dubbed Hinrichs "Allah's Forrest Gump." My only concern is insulting Forrest -- one of my all-time favorite and dearest characters.

The dark humor commenced, and has thus far produced:

Mullah always said... Life is like a box of TATP -- you never know when it's gonna go off!

Life is like a pound of bacon (or a naked woman)... you'll never know what it's like until you blow yourself to high heaven!

Life is like a block of C4... you never know what you're gonna look like afterwards!

Ironically, yesterday's email from Daniel Pipes was titled "Stupid Terrorists."
See: [Link: www.danielpipes.org...]

Also, whoever asked about Hinrichs' year off of school -- that's an interesting question. Where'd he go?

when our youth are indoctrinated by leftist profs who decry the existence of the U.S. as a bastion of racism, sexism, corruption, imperialism, and then talk of bringing down the system, what goes unsaid is what will take the system's place!

I have heard from liberal professors myself talk about how bad and wrong our system is - what I haven't heard is a coherent statement of a replacement system's viability.

This is the left's failing. Essentially they are just bitchy, whiny, complaining little minds dominated by negativity. They will quickly point out the bad but can't offer realistic positive alternatives.

If their positive alternative is jihad, violence and mass murder...talk about chicken's coming home to roost.

OMFG!

They are Racially Profiling in Oklahoma! What is this country coming to?!

"It appears that HINRICHS was part of a larger plan that included members of an Islamic terrorist cell based in and around the Norman and Oklahoma City, Oklahoma area. As a Caucasian, it was much easier for him to obtain the materials needed to create a large bomb, act in concert with members of the local terrorist cell, and strike when relative calm was the word of the day,” stated this source.

WITNESSES: HINRICHS SEEN AT ISLAMIC CENTER WEEKS, MONTHS PRIOR TO BOMBING

More seriously, I found this quote disturbingly applicable to America as a whole.

"If you could have seen the people walking out of the stadium [Saturday night], you would have thought nothing happened at all. No one seems to believe that it will ever happen again, ever happen to them. It almost did. I feel like everyone is living in a fantasyland."

A properly trained Jihadi would have taken out more people (with a national TV audience )

What better way to cause carnage than to kill yourself in section 128, lower deck to make your "death to zionist amerika statement?
or maybe
Did the guy's bomb go off pre maturely ?
Did he have a ticket to get in?
A properly trained Jihadi would have had a ticket.
Let the law dig into his past before crying "bin Laden reaches and strikes the US heartland"

jury out on the nut job IMO

Sort of reminds me of the days following 9/11.
some 16 yr old kid in Tampa stole a small plane and rammed it into a building,killing himself.

A copy cat suicide death infatuation looking for an audience ?

Was the guy a loner?

Remember the Uni-bomber?

Keep partying at the kegger, OU'ers.

Nothing to see here.

Until the next one.

Re #132

Of course, as anonymous sources were used, I give that report about as much credibility as if it were from the NYT or Washington Post.

re #135 again

And the real important question for most Americans is: Who won the game and what was the score.

By the way, it doesn't seem to me this story is being covered up. Maybe it hasn't reached the national media's attention yet, but from the pages and pages of articles/videos/comments I've read, the local Oklahmoa newsies are all over this story, and doing a good job.

Check out Michelle Malkin's page of links too.

I saw a picture of the guy with his beard. It looked pretty much like an Islamic beard, and not a casual one.

I'm afraid this was an Islamic bombing.

You know, the NFL has instituted full-body patdowns this year at all stadiums...maybe they're working on some vague threat after all. Of course, in Cincinnati, the city that thinks it knows everything best, the policy was suspended, as maybe being a breach of civil rights, or too expensive. Of course, if something were to happen, surely some LLL knucklehead would announce, "All these billions spent fighting terrorism, and we're still no safer!" Cause they think the teams are just trying to boost concessions by patting down for hidden liquor bottles. Jeesh.

What is it about lone bombers and Oklahoma?

As far as the NFL goes, yes, they have taken extra precautions in checking people.
BTW,
Anybody going to the Monday Night Foolball game in Pittsburgh on Oct.31,

don't dress up as OBL or wear a suicide belt!

BTW,
I read a post provided by one of the links that mentioned the "bomb blast" left
no crater,
no burned lawn
no damage to utility poll nearby.
mot much a a bomb unless you think gettin a suicide belt past OU security was impossible.

BTW
how bout those Bali bombers...bodies vaporized but decapitated heads to positivly ID the bombers.

How much damage was done to this OU jihadi's body?
was it vaporized?

the investagation will go on

Did he go to a crowded game to blow himself and take out other people, or just to draw attention to his suicide?
Was he trying to enter the game and set himself off in one of the crowded bleachers? Do they have metal detectors in Norman? Is the reason he did not kill anyone else sheer incompetence? Did he take any classes instructed by Ward Churchill?

It is interesting to note that this occurred at a college - a bastion of liberalism.

Instapundit is now linking the story.

In the comment section from this link;
[Link: newsbusters.org...]

Anonymous (not verified) Says:
October 3, 2005 - 16:43
The most common site I've seen referred to about this being a failed attack is this one: [Link: www.homelandsecurityus.com...] However, examing the picture, I notice a couple of things:
1) None of the ground was even singed by the blast. You see dirt where grass is not growing, but it appears to be wear.
2) The pole right next to the bench is still straight, and has no damage, either.

This "bomb" appears to have been pretty small - too small to do much damage to the surroundings. No windows were blown out, or anything.

I still am not convinced that terrorism is likely yet.

If MSM started linking this...er...suicide... to terrorism,
I bet the jihadi's would, as they did about the Katrina hurricane's destruction of New Orleans;
"It is Allah's punishment of zionist amerika"

.. then again
our home grown whack jobs may think it is the real deal and pull
Abu out of his 7/11 Quickie Mart to apply instant justice.

Abu, as we know, is from India...

I'm not convinced it is jihad.
and
I'm not buying into the piecemeal-bio lab nearby-connection,yes,it's all comming together tin foil hat theory.

So
the guy started attending the mosque next door to where he lived...
yep,
maybe
the symptoms of depression started to worsen with those visits ?

Afterall, studies conducted 30 yrs ago show teens are most prone to suicide.He wasn't many years removed from the pressures of being a teen ager.

IMO,
Islam wasn't the answer for him.

of course, I could be totally wrong.

If this is just some poor depressed kid's suicide, why is Boren tightening security at OU?

To answer SlothB77's question, there are no metal detectors at Memorial Stadium. They have people at the gates who check purses, bags, etc. This would not prevent someone with a bomb belt from entering the stadium. I'm an alum of OU and have been to many a game at Memorial Stadium over the last 18 years.

My theory is that he was supposed to wait until half-time when everyone goes to O'Connells (bar across the street) or mingles outside but the kid got cold feet.

Although sources have been unidentified, they have been described as local law enforcement officials who said the blast as large enough to blow out windows in the building some 100 yards away, and that the target of the bomber was apparently one or more of the buses near the traffic circle.
The feds have taken over the investigation. Also reports that the bomber's computer has been seized by the feds. I believe the investigation is proceeding swiftly behind the scenes, and that it would be a mistake to portray the lack of MSM coverage to a lack of a serious investigation by Homeland Security.
/just my .02

But everybody wants to hear about Lindsey Lohan's car accident, and Judith Miller's 85 days in the slammer! Not some creepy suicide victim in Oklahoma!

/sarc

Meanwhile in NJ, Governor (selected not elected) Codey, yesterday gutted NJ's Anti-terrorism Department in favor of caving to "profiling" concerns. He has denied that to be the case, but his denials are onion paper thin. From the beginning, NJ's ruling elite never took the threat seriously, with the former Governor using the top homeland security position to feather the nest of his illicit paramour, someone that had no experience in the field and no security clearances at all.

When McGreevey resigned, after waiting months in order to pass the date where an election could be held, Dick Codey was appointed by the Democrats to take over. Talk about an "occupied" State.

Codey is basically LLL in politics but, mercifully, without the whiney presentation. Bottom line, is that the Democrats cannot be trusted with security issues and this is just one more example. From the almost criminal neglect of the threat by Jim McGreevey to yesterday's actions, the efforts by the Democrat politicians to tackle the threat has been a bad joke.

Here is the link: [Link: www.nj.com...]

140 SlothB77

What is it about lone bombers and Oklahoma?

The official USGOV position was that McVeigh worked with Nichols, and most people who have studied the situation believe that's just the tip of the iceberg.

You might as well ask about lone gunmen and Texas.

flagirl
thanks for your personal input.
It's nice to read comments from people who have specific insights because they've been there and know the "lay of the land" sort to speak.
But this?

My theory is that he was supposed to wait until half-time when everyone goes to O'Connells (bar across the street) or mingles outside but the kid got cold feet.

Your theory is possible but as stated in my post, it appears the bomber would have had to mosh pit himself into a position to hurt anyone beside himself.

Unless of course,
his bomb was actually the igniter or "trigger" explosive.
Then yes,
it could have been done...with a little help from his friends.

My theory ad on;
instead of post game,
use the pre game walk up crowd and
due to the NCAA ranking of OU,
national sports media coverage would have been in place to provide a saturday afternoon/evening live fed..

( to all jihadi's out there...ignore the above comments )

come to think of it, CAIR would be all over last weeks story if MSM threw them that bone

sorry if already posted, but his bomb used the same ingredients that the "Shoe Bomber" had in his shoe bomb Same chemicals used as the shoe bomber

This is interesting because, last I checked, Norman, OK is not near Berkeley, CA or Martha's Vineyard, MA. But, I guess there are nuts everywhere.

149

good point. I wasn't trying to be funny. I just compare these two incidents in OK with the coordinated attacks in Bali, Madrid, London, NY and OK seems more isolated. I forgot about Nichols and i guess there were some people in Michigan.

Of course this guy in OK, say what you want about the islamic connection, he is lilly white.

Ok, get real, lizards: the reason the MSM hasn't done much with this is that Hinrichs was only one guy, who succeeded in killing only himself. That's all. Fact is, there are enough conservative non-dhimmi politicians in Oklahoma that they could--if they wanted to--elevate this story's profile. But we are not hearing from them either, so draw your own conclusions.

Frankly, this whole story would have made more sense if instead of Oklahoma, it had bneen Arkansas, with the guy's motive: being mortally offended by the Razorbacks.

LOOK at his beard. Whenever I see one like that, unless he has a yarmulke on, or his a folk singer, I get itchy. Beard + bomb = many more questions, IMO. Maybe I'm generalizing...

I wouldn't hold out for much validity in that Beard Photo. I did a cursory analysis and its got some unusual darkness to the hair on top of his head.

Can someone give a more thorough going over to that picture?

Mark Tapscott provides some interesting rationales for Norman Ok being a focal point of Islamic extremists/terrorists - the petroleum engineering program at OU. Lots of Middle Eastern students come to the school for that program. Here's my own thoughts.

So, we have a Moussaoui connection, a connection to the Shoe Bomber - Richard Reid, and a potential link to the 1995 OKC bombing (ammonium nitrate/fuel oil).

What does that say? Well, these are disparate events, but it's disturbing that the same features keep popping up. That's the start of a trend. A dangerous one at that.

The real cllincher as to if this was a suicide or a premature detonation would be the presence or absence of shrapmel.This has not been commented on in any of the reports I have read.

#48 Spiny Norman

The Lamestream Media got their fingers burned after the OKC bombing when Islamic terrorists were immediately assumed to be the perps. When they turned out to be white and non-Muslim

If they, to some degree, actually had it right at first, would your theory still hold up?

I found the beard photo at another site: The Oklahoma Daily (Student Newspaper)

This one has more even values in it.
I really hope there is no photoshopping going on. It would really be a blow to the truth.

#154

(Frankly, this whole story would have made more sense if instead of Oklahoma, it had bneen Arkansas, with the guy's motive: being mortally offended by the Razorbacks.)

Hey, if you'd a checked the record, the Razorbacks ain't offending anybody this year. Damnit.

That beard of his is definately a Pakistani fundamentalist style beard. Note the mustache & upper cheeks are trimmed, emphasising the long faced look those doe-eyed virgins find so irresistable on hot martyrs.

He was on jihad, whatever the MSM says.

#150 airedale: my theory was just my 2 cents worth. It makes a whole lot more sense than the "depressed kid" theory. Are there kids at OU who get depressed and kill themselves? Yep. Happens at least once a year. However, who takes the time to construct explosives and then go to a place close to where 85,000 people are to off themselves? Plus this kid tried to buy ammonium nitrate 4 days prior and was turned down. The owner of the feed store wrote down the kid's tag number and called the FBI.

Whatever this kid was up to, it was not the suicide of a depressed college student.

I was at the home opener a few weeks ago and have several good friends who go to every game. A friend of mine who was there Saturday when this guy blew himself up just sent me this:

"Rumors are flying in Norman though, I've heard that the terrorist in question attempted entry into the stadium (possibly twice) but wouldn't allow his bag to be searched and was turned away; then blew him self to hell while trying to strap the device to his person so he could get rid of the bag and gain entry. The huge weapons cache is an understatement, lots of bomb making materials were found. After an initial search of the terrorist's residence it was left unsecured and when ATF and FBI agents got on site later that night they found "people" in the residence attempting to clean up potential evidence. By the way the university housing center where this puke lived is considered by many on campus as the Muslim housing area. This is bad and what's worse is Boren trying to spin it to limit potential fallout - typical liberal response - spin it so it looks like a random event so nobody gets scared or pulls their money out. Sounds alot like the Clinton response after the first Trade Center bombing. The more we tend to learn the stupider our supposed leaders become."

#151 Duane

Not only is TATP the same explosive as was used by the shoe bomber, it's the material of choice of Palestinian splodydopes, and was also used in the second London attempt.

Connecting the dots is easy: 4 days prior, he attempts to buy fertilizer to make a fertilizer bomb. When that failed, he went to his second choice, which is TATP, which is made from acetone (readily available at home improvement stores), and some form of bleach. The stuff is notoriously ill-tempered, and frequently goes off before it's supposed to.

It all fits.

Am I too late? That beard, yikes - it must mean something because after the story being on CNN for a day, they went to an OLDER picture of the guy sans beard.

Anyone notice that?

#152 SlothB77

But Norman is the home of Univ OK - every college town is Moonbat Central.

Whatever THIS particular incident turns out to be, you DIDN'T think that solving problems or disputes by Terrorist Action WASN'T going to spread? Spread to the USA? I don't know how many times, America was warned. Nobody listened or wanted to listen.

Do you think the Islamic World didn't notice that the USA didn't flatten them after a Terrorist Incident involving Americans? And then there was 9/11..They noticed nothing all that much happened to MOST of them and so...

I teach at a small university and you can only imagine how terrifying something like this is to the university adminstrators. I will bet letters have already gone out to the parents insisting that this was a misguided, confused, depressed student crying out for help--"which is available to all University students at our excellent counseling center 24 hours a day. Your student's well-being is our number one concern."
It makes me want to throw up. I felt instantly that this loser was waiting for students to come out of the football game and then---straight to Allah.
Try explaining that to the alumni, President of the University. You got lucky this time.

true true

Incidentally, AP reports that Pakistani roommate and a few other Muslims were briefly detained and released:

Authorities held, released Pakistani roommate of OU suicide bomber
By AP Wire Service
10/5/2005 10:39:00 AM

NORMAN, Okla. (AP) -- The Pakistani roommate of a man authorities say died when he detonated an explosive device outside a crowded football stadium was led in handcuffs from a party shortly after Saturday's explosion, the head of an Islamic student group said.

Fazal M. Cheema, a finance major, shared a university-owned apartment with Joel Hinrichs III, 21, who died Saturday when a device attached to his body exploded as he sat on a bench outside George Lynn Cross Hall.

Cheema and three other Muslim students were led in handcuffs from a party by police after the blast, Ashraf Hussein, president of the Muslim Student Association, said Tuesday. They later were released.

This guy apparently had tons of explosives in his apartment. One would think that the roommate would have -- at the very least -- known of their existence. Still waiting to hear confirmation that Hinrichs had started attending mosque.

By the way, MSA is heavily linked to terror groups.

[Link: www.tulsaworld.com...]

The tapscottscopydesk link offers two key facts:

- Hinrichs joined the Triangle engineering fraternity at OU but soon thereafter dropped out for a year, then took up residence in the university owned apartment complex known as "Little Tehran" in Norman rather than returning to the Triangle house. - Hinrichs' roommate in the apartment is reportedly a Palestinian national.

According to the Triangle minutes taken 9/23/01 (Presidents report segment)

- "I went to the forum on race relations on campus after the WTC tragedy on Thursday. We may be getting a call from Dean Cintron on putting together a safe house for people who feel threatened. The President of the Pakistani student association was assaulted. We'll be hearing from her about that sometime this week. "

It appears that the Triangle house was used by Pakistani students after 9/11. Joel Heinrich, a member of Triangle frat, never resided at the frat house, however, the frat may have been the conduit for Joel's connection to Islamic ideology. Rather than live at the frat house, he shared an apartment with a Pakistani in the "Little Tehran" apartment building.

Is it any coincidence that Joel then took off a year from school? I wonder if Joel followed in the foot steps of other American reverts such as Jose Padilla, John Walker Lindh and Adam Gadahn and spent some time in Pakistan seeking jihadi inspiration during his sabbatical.

168 judithet

You got lucky this time.

Right on the money. If it weren't for the tendancy for TATP to prematurely explode, they'd be trying to fabricate a much taller tale about how an accidental explosion took dozens, maybe hundreds, of lives.

A story that should be getting a lot more exposure than it has so far. -- I've collected some links and quotes, and added my thoughts, at Oklahoma Islamist Terrorist Attack Fails, Darwin Award Pending

Why am I hearing more about Lindsay Lohan having a car accident than a terrorist blowing himself up on a college campus?

Like I give a crap what some hollywood slut does. Thats not news.

#168 judithet: I am an alumni of OU and I don't buy Boren's story. I didn't buy it when it happened either. Boren's trying to prevent the mass exodus of cash that will occur if they admit the kid was another Islamic nutball trying to take out infidels.

in reply to 139--

The Cincinnati Bengals wanted to use off-duty city police and bill the county for the NFL mandated pat downs. The Hamilton County prosecuter found this to be unaccepatable.

Maybe us hicks in Cincinnati still find it fundamentally wrong to have, what would have essentially been the government, conducting searches with no rhyme or reason.

Instead of eroding our freedoms, maybe we ought to go after the people who blow themselves up.

Plus, knowing the owners of the Bengals, they were more interested in stopping people from bringing snacks to the game than protecting people from terrorists.
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As for Johnny Jihad in Oklahoma, this was no suicide. He was probably weak-minded and the terrorist at the local terror nest, aka the mosque, recruited him. Every non-citizen that belongs to that mosque should be expelled immediately.

Reasons for deportation, anti-American views, spitting on the sidewalk, providing funds for terrorist activities (yeah, this terrorist student had to pay for his explosives somehow).

Enough is enough. Immigration needs to be limited to people who can assimilated into this culture.

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"OU Student Tried To Buy Ammonium Nitrate Before Explosion"
Wednesday October 05, 2005 10:41am
Norman (AP)

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October 05, 2005
"Oklahoma suicide bomber attended local mosque"

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October 05, 2005
"Oklahoma Bomber's Roommate Held Briefly After Attack"

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Got this from another site but thought it was worth putting here:

The second thing that bothers me is that we are writing off the dead student as some sort of crazy suicidal nut without bothering to look at things objectively. I'm a counselor and psychotherapist with more years of experience than I like to count, and I have never heard of anyone building a bomb to commit suicide. People who just want to commit suicide overdose on pills, cut their wrist, blow their brains out, put ropes around their necks, crash cars, jump off of things, ect... but they don't build bombs. People who build bombs do so to blow things up. They might want to die in the process, but their is always a target to blow up. A bench in front of the Micro Biology Building seems like a really strange target for bombing...

The other thing that comes to mind is this: People who kill themselves either do it at home or if they go somewhere else to die it almost always someplace significant. Either it is a place that offers a way to die --- like the train tracks in Norman where depressed people seem to have a tendency to throw themselves in front of speeding locomotives --- or it is some place that has a special meaning for the person such as their favorite lake or their old home or the parking lot where their girlfriend dumped them. It seems really odd to me that this student would leave his apartment and walk over to the bench in front of the Micro Biology Building to kill himself. He was an engineering student, why didn't he do it over at the Energy Center?

Link

How much longer before CAIR condemns OU Prez Boren for describing the terrorist with phrases like having "emotional difficulties" and being motivated by "personal problems" instead of using their preferred descriptors like "holy warrior" and "Islamic scholar"?

Tapscott's reporting that a tree near the site of the blast is inundated with small holes and metal and

The holes appear to be about the size of the head of 16 penny nail.

Link

Hey, a little ammonium nitrate and nitromethane can go a long way...:-)

Mark

As Richard Reid was told before going to the airport, "no jumpshots".

Have you seen the photos of the splodey guy? There was something wrong with that boy. He had Aspergers/mild autism, I'm sure. Liked mechanical things and math, was socially inept, and under the right influences could develop delusions of omniscience.

From the Oklahoma Daily's 'Letters to the Editor' section:

Unfortunately, the amount of explosive material found in the student’s apartment suggests more nefarious intentions than suicide. It is naïve — if not purely political — for President Boren to suggest that OU, its students, faculty, alumni and visitors were not at a greater risk than he suggested.

And from an editorial in the same paper, "Our View", the paper has advice for students on how to think and discuss this event:

We were left to answer these questions as quickly as possible, and when the story unfolded more slowly than we would have liked, the public complained of insufficient media coverage.

... Just be careful not to carry hypothetical lines of thought too far before the dots have been connected.

(And after they have been connected, be careful not to acknowledge these connections.)

Isn't hypothesizing a good way to investigate, or, Connect the Dots? Don't these people watch the crime dramas on TV?

-Taq

addendum to my #184

"Whatever you do, don't hypothesize! What do you think this is, a University?"

-Taq

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#183
Yodax, Hinrichs could do it, but he HATED math. It's one reason he was unhappy with his major.

I am sort of middle of the road here.
I wouldn't be surprised if this lonely character fell in with folks who would really appreciate, for a change, his interest in blowing things up.

He may not have had any sincere religious or political axe to grind, but channelled his pain into somebody else's cause for attention and appreciation.

Young men who are lonely, angry, depressed and in a slough of despond sometimes want revenge on this dirty world that has failed them, as well as an end to the pain.
(It's why I think that "rivers of blood" Raybin kos kid is actually dangerous.)

I think this kid may have been perfectly willing to blow himself up in spectacular fashion, but wanted others to go with him.

"Still, everything he did was consistent with a nut job killing himself in style for attention, or planning a "Columbine" style massacre that had nothing to do with Islamic connections."

Does it matter if the root cause to Hinrichs' was that he was lonely or autistic? Even if he did just fall in with the wrong crowd, I doubt the bloody moon demon Allah cares whether Jihad is carried out by true Muslims or by useful idiots. Being emotionally unstable...just makes him an easier person to manipulate

#97 Baldy

That isn't what he said, goddamit. Being a jihadi and being sympathetic to jihad are not the same thing. There are millions of the latter and they are anything but quiet or haven't you noticed?

#88 Friars Tale

Care to explain why you think it is worthless, asshole? Speculation from an MSM affiliate is better than the observations of someone who knew the guy personally? Whose side are you on, anyway?

#189 Shiplord Kirel - I'm sorry, I was not trying to pile-on you. Some people said things to you they shouldn't have. I was not pruposefully mistating what your nephew said. My brain & eyes have not been working well, and my reading comprehension is worse than normal. Forgive me, I meant no harm.

#183 yosax - I noticed, but thought at the very least, he probably wasn't the King of his prom. People will find a way to belong, even if it's with the wrong crowd.