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Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 5:16:32 pm PDT

Islamist influence a growing threat to French business. (Hat tip: Rochi.)

PARIS —  The influence of radical Islamist groups is a growing threat to French business, a leading intelligence expert warned on Tuesday, citing the discovery of secret prayer-rooms at the Disneyland theme-park outside Paris.

In a report commissioned by several retail and courier companies, Eric Denece - director of the French Center for Research and Intelligence - said that the Islamists’ strategy is to “take control of Muslims within the workforce” and then “challenge the rules in order to impose Islamic values.

”There are numerous instances, even if few businesses are willing to speak openly about them,“ Denece said in the report, which was based on interviews with police, intelligence officials and company staff. ”For example, around 10 prayer-rooms have been discovered at EuroDisney,“ he said. The claim was originally made in a report by the police intelligence service RG in mid-2004.

Spokesman Pieter Boterman said: ”We are a multicultural and non-discriminatory company with more than 100 nationalities and all the main religions represented. But we do not think the company is the place for people to express private religious convictions.“

Denece also quoted the head of a freight company employing 3,000 people at Roissy-Charles de Gaulle airport outside Paris who complained to the RG of ”the presence of a small group of Muslims bent on imposing their work methods under the threat of repeated strikes“.

”The growth in power of radical Islamism is a new menace, which can threaten the integrity of a business,“ Denece said.

Supermarkets and other large stores are a prime target, according to the 30-page report.

”Hypermarkets have noted that employees who are heavily involved in proselytizing systematically seek out jobs as telephone operators, delivery-men, cashiers and security officers - positions which allow easy exchanges of information, money and goods," the report said.

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1 Bubble Girl  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 3:19:07pm
Hypermarkets have noted that employees who are heavily involved in proselytizing systematically seek out jobs as telephone operators, delivery-men, cashiers and security officers - positions which allow easy exchanges of information, money and goods," the report said.

A Hypermarket? Zowie...

2 Sarah D.  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 3:19:21pm

I had better not find any of those at Disney World.

3 ddd  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 3:19:25pm

Islam a threat to normal life.

4 Truck Monkey  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 3:20:52pm

Islam is trying to impose itself upon us?

/do i really need to

5 sngnsgt  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 3:23:36pm

Love this Subway ad. ;-Þ

6 Bubble Girl  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 3:23:48pm

One can only imagine what EuroDisney will be like once the Islamists take over...

Bleak World..

7 Bubble Girl  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 3:24:46pm

Allah's Dark Ages...

8 sngnsgt  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 3:26:29pm
9 .  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 3:26:41pm

any good news today?

10 doppelganglander  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 3:26:50pm

The real shock here is that Muslims in France have jobs.

11 El Cid  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 3:27:16pm

France?...Is there really STILL a place called, France?

12 Moonbat_One  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 3:28:10pm

The French government is actually fairly ruthless in repressing radical, violence-advocating Islamism. Much more so than the UK or other European countries. I was surprised to learn that.

13 Truck Monkey  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 3:29:27pm

#6

One can only imagine what EuroDisney will be like once the Islamists take over...

I would imagine there would be a lot more Aladdin themed rides?

14 Beagle  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 3:29:40pm

France fought very hard for their secularism. Whatever one thinks about secularism, in the context of French history it makes sense. Hopefully Charles Martel's work wasn't in vain. Swapping state Catholicism for Islam was a bad trade. Oil is nice, but your head is better.

15 Bubble Girl  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 3:30:48pm
 

 #10

doppelganglander  10/20/2005 05:26PM PDT

The real shock here is that Muslims in France have jobs

Yes! lol...

16 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb)  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 3:31:57pm

Something's wrong in the town of Santa Mira, California.

At first, Dr. Miles Bennell (Kevin McCarthy) is unconcerned when the townsfolk accuse their loved ones of acting like emotionless imposters. But soon the evidence is overwhelming--Santa Mira has been invaded by alien "pods" that are capable of replicating humans and taking possession of their identities.

It's up to McCarthy to spread the word of warning, battling the alien invasion at the risk of his own life...

The Invasion of the Body-Snatchers, 1956. Classique.

17 Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 3:32:01pm

#10 doppelgangerlander

The real shock here is that Muslims in France have jobs.

Guess there weren't any prayer rooms at the welfare office.

18 DocDublU  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 3:32:32pm

Islamofacism and European Trade Unionism; a match made in paradise.

"ahmed, i wish to file a work greivance. during one of my 5 'prayer breaks' today, we were only given 14 minutes to praise allah. we are gaurenteed 13 minutes for this purpose in our union contract. i call a jihad on mickey mouse!" flit.

19 Ann  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 3:35:22pm
”We are a multicultural and non-discriminatory company with more than 100 nationalities and all the main religions represented. But we do not think the company is the place for people to express private religious convictions.“

No where is it the place to impose one's beliefs. Believe what you will, and leave others alone.

Islam is so insecure that it must impose, not just exist. Pitiful. Again.

20 acwgusa  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 3:36:07pm

Taking on Disney. The fastest way to a trip off the Matterhorn. The Hard Way Down.

21 kiDDD  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 3:36:24pm

Hmmm, aren't the frencht and the [bigoted word]'s supposed to be friends? See give a muslim a rope and they want to be cowboys...

22 cracker_jones  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 3:36:55pm
said that the Islamists’ strategy is to “take control of Muslims within the workforce” and then “challenge the rules in order to impose Islamic values.

The underground islamist strategy is equally cynical, and involves proselytising and recruiting within the prison system. The benefit to the islamists is home-grown recruits with a grudge against his imprisoners.

23 Catttt  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 3:39:28pm

Secret prayer rooms at Disneyland? Is nothing sacred?

/semi-sarc

24 rickmoss  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 3:39:41pm
I would imagine there would be a lot more Aladdin themed rides?

Maybe -- but, with tiny, little changes to make it more Islamic. Aladdin would have no hands (because he is a thief) and Jasmine would be covered up from head to toe with the latest fashions from Coleman.

She would have to be beaten into submission for being uppity enough to talk back to her father.

25 Ol' flyboy  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 3:41:26pm

Hope some Euroinfidel does not mistake a prayer room for a loo.

26 leftover54  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 3:42:39pm

"It's a small world after all..."

And gettin' smaller every day.

27 Bubble Girl  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 3:45:54pm

16 Lady of Shallott

Yes, Invasion Of The Bodysnatchers... I found some in my neighbor's backyard after I was seething and raging over someone dropping a Bible ... I killed the neighbors and then had to chop up their pods too. It was an exhausting day.

28 Killian Bundy  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 3:47:41pm

Agressive immigration plus a higher birthrate than the indigenous populations eventually equals the Caliphate.

Welcome to the Grand Strategery of Islam, Satan's Greatest Invention.

/now you know the truth, get used to it and act accordingly

29 Deuce  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 3:48:33pm

When they covered Snow White with a burkha, that tipped off the French.

30 alkmyst  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 3:51:29pm
employees who are heavily involved in proselytizing systematically seek out jobs as telephone operators, delivery-men, cashiers and security officers - positions which allow easy exchanges of information, money and goods,"

Hell, when I was 11 years old I knew I could get whatever I could possibly ever want in the local BK "Extra-Happy Meal"

31 Catttt  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 3:52:02pm

Some of the French are catching on.

Ni Putes Ni Soumises (Neither Whores nor Submissive) web site.

ENOUGH MORALS
Our situation has worsened. The media and politicians have done nothing, or almost, to help us.

ENOUGH PITY
We are tired of others speaking on our behalf, treating us with contempt.

ENOUGH EXCUSES
Of our oppression in the name of multiculturalism, of those who force us to keep our heads down.

ENOUGH SILENCE
In public debates, about violence, poverty and discrimination.

The feminist movements have deserted the ghettos. Facing a crisis, we have decided to act. No one else will free us from the struggle for freedom and emancipation and against racism and exclusion.

We have raised our voices so that our sisters and mothers in every ghetto in Europe can hear our cry for freedom and joint our struggle to carve out our own space in our own neighbourhoods.

There's a big debate on the proper translation of the name of this group. May I suggest Neither pussy nor wussie? (Sorry)

I also found A feminist group that appears to actually give a damn about Afghan women. Oddly enough.

32 Nonnie  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 3:53:00pm

During the French Revolution, the statues of the kings of France at the cathedral of Notre-Dame de Paris were taken down, beheaded, and buried by the revolutionaries, in a symbolic gesture of obliterating royalty.

When they take over the city, watch for the ROPers to express disappointment that somebody's beaten them to it - oh, wait, they'll have plenty of REAL heads to lop off!

this crap sickens me.

33 SwampWoman  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 3:55:41pm

#24 rickmoss

She would have to be beaten into submission for being uppity enough to talk back to her father.

Beaten? The little slut would have been killed as a lesson to all what the role of good daughters is.

34 Condor  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 3:56:57pm

As I mentioned in another thread,
if there are Muslims in charge of security screening at a public place like Disneyland, or who have access to gateways to the park, or who can gain access for others to enter the park without undergoing scrutiny, then isn't that a major security issue?

(We know already of a great many muslims who seem to have sought work at airports.)

35 gymnast  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 3:57:31pm

I believe that Prince Whalid Al Saud took over Euro-Disney about 20 years ago when he bought 20% of the stock.

36 Bubble Girl  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 4:00:58pm

Cattt

A good post, I have been banging the drum on this of the failure of our own feminists to leave their leg waxing long enough to speak out against the subjugation and mutilation of Muslim women around the world. A troll on here suggested that this was merely a "pet peeve" of mine that our feminists had spoken out. Yes, they did... but then went back to their parties, yoga, and Bush bashing.

37 solomonpanting  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 4:02:21pm
According to Denece, the primary threat of Islamism to business is "sectarian", because it can undermine the loyalty of employees and destroy morale. It should therefore be "treated in the same way as the threat from scientology and other sects", he advised.

In other words, if I'm reading this correctly, French law fears and has some laws dealing with scientology, whereas the 'threat of Islamism' so far gets a pass?

There must be power shortages in France, because they sure seem to be in the dark.

38 Model4  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 4:04:12pm
the presence of a small group of Muslims bent on imposing their work methods under the threat of repeated strikes

Hey, French retards... the world's chock full of hard-working people who'd love to get jobs in a modern country like France. Hell, unemployment is high in a lot of Europe. You could look next door for a lot of Germans who should want to take the jobs. But you choose the most barbaric you can find, then allow them to hold your culture and economy hostage. Guess it's worth it for the "vibrancy" of "Long live the Intifadah" and of course the "Death to the Jews" you don't have the balls to say yourselves.

Let them strike, have people who will work waiting in the wings and simply say "don't come back." Ah, but then you're compelled to pay massive welfare, and of course can't offend the leftist unions. Laughable.

39 Stop Hillary  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 4:13:56pm

And the rooms for Catholic or Jewish services at Disney are where?

40 attaboid  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 4:14:09pm

Remember, islam means submission.

41 siis  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 4:17:33pm
Islam is so insecure that it must impose, not just exist.

They exist only to impose allah's will on others.

42 El  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 4:19:36pm

#31 Cattt

Actually "Ni Putes Ni Soumises" would translate into "Neither Whores Nor Submissive".

It echoes with the traditional views held by immigrants that either women are whores or submit to their father, brother and later husband like a good muslim should.

However it's an unofficial pet of the Parti Socialiste (P.S) and though it actually tickles the islamobots, it is way too PC to deal with deep issues.
The gang rapes that usually target white girls in housing projects are an example of something that can't be said or debated.
This is not only the case in France. The same applies in Belgium, Norway, Sweden, Denmark and probably more countries.

43 solomonpanting  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 4:22:29pm
Spokesman Pieter Boterman said: ”We are a multicultural and non-discriminatory company with more than 100 nationalities and all the main religions represented. But we do not think the company is the place for people to express private religious convictions.“

If you were a multicultural company you would allow private religious convictions because that is the culture in Islamic countries, you assbite. You're a muti-ethnic company but will sow the deeds of your own destruction just to preserve the multicultual banner.

Maybe saner Frenchmen will one day rise up in revolt that will, sadly, echo the Reign of Terror.

44 Ann  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 4:26:51pm

#41 siis

They exist only to impose allah's will on others.

Sorry, I am not in the mood to get imposed upon.

Conversion by intimidation does not work for me.

45 WarBicycle  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 4:27:43pm

It's only a matter of time before Europeans lose their patience with its [bigoted word]s and lash back.

46 Catttt  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 4:28:38pm

#42 El

I know how it translates (I used that translation). However, you may not be aware that people are wasting a lot of time debating it - I mentioned that because I thought it was interesting. Also, I like my version - not literal, but more meaningful to Americans.

Also, I don't care whose pet they are, if they do any good. Anything is better than nothing.

47 big L  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 4:31:25pm

39-stop hillary--My thought exactly
Where are the chapels for Catholic, Protestant faiths and temple/prayer area for the Jewish faith?

Remember: the French Pantheon of Heroes in Paris stops at 1809...

Time to buy a couple of shares of Disney and complain as shareholders.

48 solomonpanting  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 4:34:10pm

#43
deeds=seeds

49 Van Impe  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 4:35:11pm

#10

The real shock here is that Muslims in France have jobs.

To quote Homer Simpson: "It's funny 'cause it's true".

50 scorched earth 138  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 4:35:22pm

"Hypermarkets have noted that employees who are heavily involved in proselytizing systematically seek out jobs as telephone operators, delivery-men, cashiers and security officers - positions which allow easy exchanges of information, money and goods," the report said."
I don't see "Hypermarkets" being too "Hyper" with all the mudslimes engaging in Da'wa on company time...

51 cracker_jones  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 4:35:50pm

PARIS -- French police investigating plans by a group of Islamic extremists to attack targets in Paris discovered last month that the group was recruiting French citizens to train in the Middle East and return home to carry out terrorist attacks, sources familiar with the investigation said.
One French official said the extremists were using a virtual "underground railroad" through Syria to spirit European and Middle Eastern citizens into and out of Iraq. A senior French law enforcement official, who declined to be quoted by name because he was speaking about classified information, said French citizens had undergone terrorist training at camps in Iraq, Syria and Lebanon.
The jihadists are busy in France.

52 scorched earth 138  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 4:38:49pm

"Ni Putes Ni Soumises (Neither Whores nor Submissive) web site."
God, hope this catches on, I'd like a reason to be proud of my 1/4 Frog herritage...

53 mich-again  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 4:43:29pm

I work in management at a large manufacturing facility. I can assure you, we won't be stopping the line for anyone to go praying according to their own schedule. If its during their break time, fine. But the "big train" aint stopping for anyone's prayer time.

That said, we have plenty of Christians who keep their Bibles nearby their work station and read them when they have time. I've even seen manual sprayers in paint booths bring in boxes with hinged plexiglass lids so they can read their Bible without letting paint overspray drift onto the pages.

Hey, whatever. Just don't hold the line or miss an operation.

54 Bernadette  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 4:43:41pm

Scary thought:

Denece also quoted the head of a freight company employing 3,000 people at Roissy-Charles de Gaulle airport outside Paris who complained to the RG of ”the presence of a small group of Muslims bent on imposing their work methods under the threat of repeated strikes“.

As in "Achmed, load those explosives onto that airplane faster or I'll blow you into next week?"


The rest of this story gives me visions of SS.

55 Chris Allen  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 4:46:25pm

Not entirely OT: Does anyone know if there's a Club 33 at EuroDisney?

56 Killian Bundy  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 4:46:30pm

A dog in every mosque and a pig in every secret prayer room.

/Herbert Hoover, from the grave

57 Bernadette  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 4:47:13pm

big L:

I didn't get that Disney sanctioned them. They were secret prayer rooms set up by Muslim employees. Only discovered after an investigation.

This story isn't really about Disney. The big issue we all need to look at here is the subversive tactics being used by the Muslims to control not by owning a business, but by controlling the employees who work at the business without the knowledge or consent of the owners.

And establishing their secret network in the background while the world just walks by and doesn't notice.

58 Elastigirl  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 4:50:37pm

I seem to recall a MSM tv story awhile back about practicing religion in the workplace in the US. If memory serves they showed a US airline that had an "all purpose" room set aside at an airport that was supposedly for everyone's use, yet strangely enough it was used only for muslims to pray in.
It's not happening just in Europe.

59 Bernadette  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 4:58:42pm

Elastigirl:

Actuall all airports that I know of have a chapel open to anyone to use. It's in the public area and is not just utilized by employees.

Next time I'm at my airport, I'm going to check it out. Maybe we can all do that as an unscientific lizard poll.

60 ajaxlikid  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 5:00:34pm

OT

Birds of a feather...

Chavez and Chirac affirm 'common vision', deeper ties

My favorite piece:

It was the third time the two had met this year.
61 lockednloaded  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 5:06:34pm

so where the rape, er uh prayer rooms at?

62 harry9000  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 5:07:31pm

Yeah, but Islamofacism and the GWOT are just the invention of Chimpy McHaliburton to foster his illegal immoral war for oil.

While in New Orleans as part of the Oregon National Guard, a French reporter approached one of our young soldiers to talked to him. The soldier, noting the reporters accent asked him where he was from. "France", said the reporter, then added snidely, "You know, the country that knew better than to invade Iraq."

He then walked off from our guy with the remark; "We were right too."

Thanks French guy, where ever you are, for coming all the way to hurricane ravaged New Orleans to be an ass.

What class.

63 SlothB77  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 5:07:47pm

I have been to France and I have seen their hypermarkets. Wait until they see a Wal Mart.

64 Van Impe  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 5:08:34pm

#58

I seem to recall a MSM tv story awhile back about practicing religion in the workplace in the US. If memory serves they showed a US airline that had an "all purpose" room set aside at an airport that was supposedly for everyone's use, yet strangely enough it was used only for muslims to pray in.

This happens all the time at colleges and universities. Muslim students are invited to use the multi-faith "prayer room" and then they quickly take it over, claiming that they need to use it 5 times a day to pray and that all other religous symbols are offensive to Muslims. The result is that all other religous groups get forced out and the prayer room becomes a muslim center.

65 Stop Hillary  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 5:09:55pm

#60 ajaxlikid -- "Chavez and Chirac affirm 'common vision', deeper ties"

France needs a serious refresher course in the Monroe Doctrine.

France is our enemy and we need to treat them as such.

66 quark2  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 5:11:39pm

Boy, these people ain't asking for a big hurtin', they're beggin for it.

67 Catttt  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 5:11:44pm

52 scorched earth 138

Ha! Well, there are their cigarettes (which take no prisoners), coffee, pastries, the aqualung, the Marquis de Lafayette, Braille, Jean-Claude, Chanel (does anyone else remember their fabulous 1979 Christmas ad - the one with the woman and man, the swimming pool - directed by Ridley Scott? Sexxxy ad).

68 lockednloaded  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 5:11:58pm

hey, if i killed women and children all day for a living, my conscience would make me pray 5 times a day too

69 lockednloaded  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 5:14:06pm

i guess muhammad felt a strong overwhelming need to be spiritually cleansed 5 times a day, i wonder why?

70 Stop Hillary  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 5:15:18pm

#68 lockandloaded -- "hey, if i killed women and children all day for a living, my conscience would make me pray 5 times a day too"

They aren't praying for forgiveness, they are praying for more battle plans.

71 mich-again  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 5:17:48pm

French hyper-markets? Well, I won't step foot in a Walmart. (F* them and their acres of cheapass Chinese import crapola.) so I usually shop at local grocery stores, or better yet, small family-owned markets.

But my favorite chain store for groceries are in NE Ohio. The Giant Eagle (aka Big Bird). The beer is cheap and the California Rolls are really good too. What a concept. Beer and Sushi from a grocery store. Gotta love that!

72 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 5:17:56pm

#57 Bernadette

The big issue we all need to look at here is the subversive tactics being used by the Muslims to control not by owning a business, but by controlling the employees who work at the business without the knowledge or consent of the owners.

That would make Islam a virus.

73 bonz  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 5:19:47pm

#59 Bernadette
You're right about the chapels in airports. O'Hare has a public chapel. Had a staff member at one time to hold services. Not sure if it's the case these days

74 solomonpanting  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 5:20:19pm

#69 lockednloaded

i guess muhammad felt a strong overwhelming need to be spiritually cleansed 5 times a day, i wonder why?

He kept asking "Why not?" when he heard 'Thou shall not murder."

75 mich-again  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 5:29:54pm

To the Muslims who think they need to ritualize their prayers.

If your "god" were real, he/she/it would listen to your prayers anytime you offered them. If he/she/it only tunes in at "X" o'clock, then you gotta wonder...

Other religions do offer group prayers at predetermined times, but that is because they choose to worship as a community, not as individuals and everyone needs to know when to meet-up.

The more I learn about Islam, the more it just seems like pure superstition. All religions have a "superstition" characteristic in that you have to believe something that you can't prove. But Islam requires it's believers to go along with policies that aren't even human in nature, like blowing yourself up, killing your sibling, or aspiring to be rewarded for murder with an entire roomful of young virgins. Is that what attracts a billion(?) people? How freaking sick is that?

76 Bernadette  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 5:35:02pm

bonz:

I've seen that airport at O'Hare. I was tempted to pay it a visit between flights on my way to Ireland right before the Iraq war started. But I was running from domestic to international, late flight, and trying to make my connection.

77 Killian Bundy  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 5:42:19pm
#70 Stop Hillary

They aren't praying for forgiveness, they are praying for more battle plans.

They're worshiping and making pilgrimages to a rock. That ain't right.

/word up

78 mattm  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 5:43:46pm
“take control of Muslims within the workforce” and then “challenge the rules in order to impose Islamic values.

Hear that - no more casual Friday, just a Burka every day, if your master allows them to work.

79 miguelj  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 5:46:02pm

How about:
Mecca Mouse
Don al-Duq
and--best of all:
Dhimmini Cricket

80 razorbacker  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 5:48:47pm

Sam Clemens said it a century ago:

roughly:

It wasn't American, it wasn't unAmerican. It was, well, French.

Unfortunately, this has evolved into just antiAmerican. WWI just sucked all the heart and blood and guts out of the whole country, and it's been all downhill ever since.

81 Hankmeister  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 5:50:51pm

Told ya he'd be set free. Al Qaeda must be happy with another journalist on their payroll. I wonder how much ransom or guarantees of a ransom they got (for future access of course) that we'll never know about?

82 Hankmeister  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 5:51:30pm

Ooops, wrong thread.

83 galtg  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 5:52:26pm

WHY WAIT?

FRANCE SHOULD JUST GET IT OVER WITH ALREADY


AND SURRENDER

84 solomonpanting  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 5:54:01pm

OT:

From Scotland:

Terror laws 'may infringe freedom'

According to SNP leader Alex Salmond

"I don't want to be part of a country where the first instinct of the police when they see an 82 year old pensioner being assaulted is to detain that pensioner under anti-terror laws."


Spoken like a true idiot.
Maybe that would be his first instinct, eh?

85 mich-again  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 5:58:42pm

80 razorback

So true. France has not yet recovered from the Battle of Verdun

86 denbike  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 6:05:24pm

Something doesn't sound right here. I had friends that worked for Disneyland, they had tales of intense but invisible security, nothing happened anywhere that the security apparatus didn't see.

87 Elastigirl  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 6:18:14pm

#59 Bernadette

"Actually all airports that I know of have a chapel open to anyone to use. It's in the public area and is not just utilized by employees"

The room they showed was for the employee's not for the general public. The room itself was only the size of a small office.
That was the whole point of the report, religion in the workplace and companies making concessions to people's faith.
In all fairness they showed another company that allowed it's employee's to hold bible study classes during their lunch hour in company facilities.
However when was the last time anyone shouted "praise the lord" and blew up women and children

88 dak  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 6:24:35pm

Ain't that how the commies got started? Opressed worker masses, raise against the opressor, blah blah blah.

Fire them. Hire a trained monkey. Or a frenchman.

BTW who do you think would be most obnoxious as a waiter, a snooty frenchman, or a PO'd Jihadist?

89 RadicalRon  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 6:29:18pm

Unbeknownst to them, Le France is already part of the new Caliphate.

Must be Chirac's jinn.

90 Free Speech Is Only For über-Libs  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 6:37:41pm
citing the discovery of secret prayer-rooms at the Disneyland theme-park outside Paris.

Shouldn't that read: "rooms where precious muslims can worship their blood soaked god of death"?

91 transferthem  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 6:47:45pm

I'm tempted to observe that it serves the eu right for allowing so many cult followers to live and work in western society.

In the case of the French, it is particularly funy to see them squirm.

92 Gadfly  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 6:58:05pm

Jew haters working at a Disney facility? Who'd of thought.

But are they working the meat counter at the food stores? They would refuse to serve "jambon" without which France (and the rest of the Western world) will of course perish.

93 Beagle  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 7:11:24pm

#91 transferthem

I'm tempted to observe that it serves the eu right for allowing so many cult followers to live and work in western society.


Bat Ye'or lays it out. It's Eurabia in action. The French loathe "Polish Plumbers" almost as much as they betrayed the Polish in 1939. Sometimes you get what you deserve. The "Polish Plumbers" ad campaign has increased the tourist biz in Poland and France is stuck with the Mohammed Jihad Shahid Dawa Takfir Mohammeds.

94 Baldy  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 7:53:06pm

Europe doesn't thrill me, but I don't wish multicultural madness on them. It also does not help the rest of the civilized world to have Europe become a worse mess. I often wonder if the slow-motion Islamification of the world is not a bigger threat than terror. Maybe not a bigger threat, but a great danger in that multicultural madness can blind us and weaken us.

95 Baldy  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 7:59:10pm

I remember there were bombings in Paris Metro stations 10 years ago.

96 Killian Bundy  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 8:01:07pm

Hey President Bush, your Supreme Court nominee is undergoing fire for effect by Republicans, your Chief of Staff is going to be indicted, your approval rating is the lowest ever, Chrissy Matthews is salivating, you're a lame duck, and everybody hates you and thinks you totally suck.

What're you going to do?

"I'm going to Damascus!"

/rock on

97 FabioC.  Thu, Oct 20, 2005 11:46:36pm

Instead, at my college the hall were Muslim students had hold their prayers (in the gym/dojo) is being demolished, so at the moment they go out on the lawn. I can't say I'm very saddened at the thought.

98 zuckerlilly  Fri, Oct 21, 2005 1:52:55am

When, as always is said (LLL), unemployment and poverty is the backbone of jihadism and islamic terrorism, how can it be, that those employees can be switched into jihadis? They have a job and don´t live in poverty.

I know, now comes the argument (LLL): they are not respected. Ok, cotptic christians in Egypt are not respected, or christians in Turkey are not respected. Do they slaughter muslims?

99 TotallySirius  Fri, Oct 21, 2005 3:01:07am

MoSlum prayer rooms at EuroDisney?

I guess they won't be having any "Gay Days", at least at that Disney park.

Disney Gay Days

100 templar  Fri, Oct 21, 2005 3:02:57am

The French better protect EuroDisney...its one of the few businesses still alive in France. As Reagan quipped about the socialists' view of business:

"If it moves, tax it. If it sill moves, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it."

101 Blue Chip  Fri, Oct 21, 2005 4:10:16am

Wecome to Islam Disney!

Ride the Wheel of Torture! Please, we insist!

See your favorite Cartoon Charcters beheaded!

Mickey and that whore, Minny - Infidel Rodents!

Visit our lovely “It’s a small, (but growing) muslim world, after all”

Ladies, Please put on your burka as you enter the park!

102 alwyr  Fri, Oct 21, 2005 4:21:48am

Moonbat # 12: "The French government is actually fairly ruthless in repressing radical, violence-advocating Islamism."
___

Not so, Moonbat. The French *government* merely "talks" a better game than their European counterparts. IF the French *gov't* WANTED to end this prayer room phenomenon, they'd send in the flics or the paras and kick the Muslims' sorry asses out - in compliance with the STATED government policy of "pure secularism".

Granted, Moonbat, the French intelligence services ARE indeed noted for their ruthless efficiency vis-a-vis the GWOT. However, for the REST of the government to merely "talk a good game" because they're scared shitless of the Muslims in their midst, then THOSE portions of government are working at cross-purposes with their own intelligence services.

That's what I meant by my "correction" in the 1st sentence, above.

103 SevoGuy  Fri, Oct 21, 2005 5:02:34am

If they get a prayer room then we get a prayer room. Simple. We impose our beliefs on them just as much as they want to do to us.

Actually, preaching Jesus may not be a bad idea to these killers of human kind.

They preach muhammand and Satan and we preach back to them Jesus and the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob.

Actually this would be unfair to them because it may dawn on them that what they preach is murder and what we preach is eternal life.

Sorry, no 72 virgins to molest at your leisure.

104 plutosdad  Fri, Oct 21, 2005 5:46:09am

”Hypermarkets have noted that employees who are heavily involved in proselytizing systematically seek out jobs as telephone operators, delivery-men, cashiers and security officers - positions which allow easy exchanges of information, money and goods," the report said.

This might be because they are unskilled. Or because those jobs have lots of interaction with people. Proselytizing does not mean money laundering, which they seem to imply.

105 plutosdad  Fri, Oct 21, 2005 5:48:57am

#12:

The French government is actually fairly ruthless in repressing radical, violence-advocating Islamism.

THe French government is just good at suppressing free speech of all sorts.

Heck their newspaper reporters cannot even accuse politicians of crimes unless they've been indicted. I remember when Chirac was running the Chicago Tribune printed a story on him and the corruption allegations when he was mayor of Paris, and the Tribune's take was there's no way he would be allowed to run for prime minister if the French press were free to print the allegations. Just like Mayor Daley or Gov. Blagojevich could never run for President.

106 EddieP  Fri, Oct 21, 2005 6:08:51am

Where else but at Disney would a Mickey Mouse religion go to pray?

107 marinevet  Fri, Oct 21, 2005 6:11:04am

In a report commissioned by several retail and courier companies, Eric Denece - director of the French Center for Research and Intelligence - said that the Islamists’ strategy is to “take control of Muslims within the workforce” and then “challenge the rules in order to impose Islamic values.

...demographics are a BEOTCH!

Reap what you sew france!

108 Marinevet  Fri, Oct 21, 2005 6:12:00am

#106 hahahahahaha

109 hiker  Fri, Oct 21, 2005 6:23:46am

Re # 12: "The French government is actually fairly ruthless in repressing radical, violence-advocating Islamism. Much more so than the UK or other European countries. I was surprised to learn that."

Yes, this is correct. France, of the all European states, is actually the most aggressive in ferreting out islamic extremism and making at least some attempt at combatting it. France learned in Northern Africa (particularly Algeria) just how the "holy warriors" of islam like to spend their time; and it isn't a pretty sight.

110 hiker  Fri, Oct 21, 2005 6:42:37am

Re # 45. "It's only a matter of time before Europeans lose their patience with its Arabs and lash back."

Dream on. Poland and maybe the Czech Republic will fight, and France will at least throw a timid punch, but the rest of Europe -- especially the Scandinavian states -- will readily and in some cases even eagerly surrender to the islamists. The one European state that really surrpises me with the depth of its dhimmitude is Spain. Geez, the folks that brought us the Inquisition and the blitzkreig against the New World are so cowered by the islamabots that they are already on their knees. What blunder did Spain -- and most of Europe -- happily embrace that brought them to this pitiful end? Socialism. It's that simple. Socialism (i.e., dependency and the abrogation of personal responsibility) is the surest and most direct path to weakness and surrender.

111 Julia the Horrible  Fri, Oct 21, 2005 8:49:26am

It is interesting to me that we can bash the Euros for their lack of foresight and insight into what would result from unrestricted immigration of cheap labor. We wear the same rose colored glasses with regard to such immigration and free trade agreements. We do not keep track of illegal aliens, and even allow them to use our services for free (health care and public education, for example), and now the government thinks we are going to solve the problem with a fence. HAHAHA. I love it. No one gets it.

In a world trending toward global economies, ethnicicsm and nationalism will go by the wayside, except for those countries ruled by dynasties and dictators, whose economy is in the toilet because they are raping their own people, literally and economically.

Where does the US fall on this continuum? I wonder...

112 RayA  Sat, Oct 22, 2005 1:24:46pm

Well 50 years from now when the Islamic Republic of France declares war, this article will be displayed in historical terms as "warning signs"...


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