party hardy, bastards

A picture is worth a thousand words, asshat.

As has been said in previous post's, the "anti-freedom" crowd doesn't want our troops to come home, they want our troops to lose!

/They just won't admit it publically...

Don't idiots often have vacuous grins on their faces ?

Telling, because it means these bloggers have nothing left to justify the deaths of Americans in Iraq but desperate and transparent attacks on those who want our troops home.

Yeah, Pete, all I have left is that, and, hmm, let's see, the toppling of one of modern history's most brutal dictators, putting the mass grave diggers out of business, ending a key state sponsor of jihadism, putting an end once and for all to the specter of a nuclear-armed Saddamite state some time in the next decade, and providing the first inklings of a democratic revolution in the Arab middle east. Those are my only justifications. Really grasping at straws here.

It looks like a party to me. People hanging out laughting with drinks and music. They don't look all that sad to me.

I took the liberty of doctoring an image myself, just like the left has been doing lately.

Sad part is, I didn't even have to change that much.
[Link: img408.imageshack.us...]

The Zombietone News. Always there when you want the truth about the lies.

Hey, it is what it is. And this assclown should know all about being in the gutter, the un-American leftist tool.

Calling anyone here un-American, except for the usual suspects who shall go unnamed, is ridiculous.

yes they look like they are fully comprehending the loss of life. i can see some that are mouthing prayer's for the ones who lost their life. if this is mourning for the 2000 dead how big would they smile/mourn for 20,000? sick! i tell you one thing inflatable scrotum man would blow up his nuts for 20,000 dead.

In my view the "Peace Activist" is the scum de la scum of society with only child rapists being lower in the hierarchy of evil.

And I'm seriously reconsidering that view.

Peter, if I bash your teeth in, does that make me Un-American?

#7 Locke

Ha, brilliant, it took me a minute to see what you added to the pic. Talk about the hat fitting...

The anti-American crowd held anti-US rallies yesterday here.

MSM, both local TV news and newspaper called them "rallies to honor the troops."

Right.

Also the local CBS station ran a piece on military recruiters in high schools. The entire tone of the story was that military recruiters are bad and parents need to sheild their kids from them.

It included this line..."parents can opt out of having recruiters contact their children, but few parents take advantage of this".

The "take advantage of this" bugged me.

If the leftists who are ghoulishly celebrating the deaths of 2000 troops- as these individuals CLEARLY and unabashedly are, truly cared about the troops,

They would be holding vigils for the dozens who have died in Afghanistan (guess that war isnt enough of a political propaganda tool), and they arent.

Obviously, its all propaganda. Its an agenda. It isnt genuine. Its Bush hatred masquerading as "sympathy" for the troops. Its a ploy. A cartoon.

If they genuinely CARED for people, they'd be celebrating the toppling of a savage dictator, as bad as we have seen since Hitler and Stalin. And they ARENT.

You think these creatures dont feel a slight leap of joy, of "I told you so!" vindication every time they see the casualty rates go up in Iraq? Deep down? Or maybe not so deep down?

You bet they do.

i tell you one thing inflatable scrotum man would blow up his nuts for 20,000 dead.

He already blew up his nuts.

# 10 blutonazi98

They were no less strident or committed two decades ago when I was in the Army during the Cold War. Those MIKE-FOXTROTS would have cheered as the bodies of myself and my fellow soldiers were crushed under the tracks of Soviet tanks in the Fulda Gap had a real live hot war occurred.

OT:

Part of me almost hopes for indictments in ther Pflame affair so we can get this putz on the witness stand.

He will get shredded, along witht he case itself, because he is a pathological liar and a total fraud.

Victoria Toensing has it right. This was all a conspiratorial CIA effort to get back at the President, and when that is established, Pflame and her drug addict husband will be frogmarched and hopefully executed for their treasonous behavior.

Daou's is simply a straw man argument. Nobody here or anywhere else has ever asserted that dissent is un-American. Daou constructs this straw man and then attacks it.

Rather, it is the nature of the dissent -- both in terms of the form it takes and the motivation behind it -- that is at issue.

By focusing on the arbitrary number of 2000 and and failing to comprehend that the sacrifices were for a noble cause, and by failing to perceive that 2000 is actually a low casualty figure for almost any conflict in history, the Left begs to be called on the carpet. Moreover, smiling and chatting at the Grim Mileston only helps to convey a celebration rather than a vigil.

It's not a party with champagne and cocaine (not in public, at least) but it's a celebration nevertheless. It's a happy occasion for the Left in their ongoing campaign to aid the Islamists in defeating the U.S. military and humiliating George Bush.

BTW, they couldn't care less about the dead soldiers or their families.

Oh boy! I got the dreaded comment number 17!

# 14 Dave the...

It appears the journalism is now just another form of treason.

Poor baby...he'll get over it.

#16

my bad! i should have said explode his nuts!
a regular ball sack 4th of July!

#19 Globular Cluster

By focusing on the arbitrary number of 2000 and and failing to comprehend that the sacrifices were for a noble cause, and by failing to perceive that 2000 is actually a low casualty figure for almost any conflict in history, the Left begs to be called on the carpet. Moreover, smiling and chatting at the Grim Mileston only helps to convey a celebration rather than a vigil.

Exactly.

Well said.

Charles-

Liberals don't like it when you call a spade a spade.

AT 11 AM EDT...1500Z...THE GOVERNMENT OF COLOMBIA HAS ISSUED A HURRICANE WARNING FOR THE ISLANDS OF SAN ANDRES AND PROVIDENCIA.

AT 11 AM EDT...THE GOVERNMENT OF NICARAGUA HAS ISSUED A HURRICANE WATCH FOR THE ENTIRE CARIBBEAN COAST OF NICARAGUA FROM THE BORDER
WITH COSTA RICA NORTHWARD TO CABO GRACIAS A DIOS NEAR THE NICARAGUA/HONDURAS BORDER... AND ADJACENT ISLANDS. A TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS ALSO IN EFFECT FOR THE ENTIRE CARIBBEAN COAST OF NICARAGUA FROM THE BORDER WITH COSTA RICA NORTHWARD TO CABO GRACIAS
A DIOS NEAR THE NICARAGUA/HONDURAS BORDER...AND ADJACENT ISLANDS.

I lovingly hand crafted this satellite loop, courtesy of the NASA Satellite Space Meteorology Interactive Page. I could change background colors, scales, lat and long. And I did it just for you.

Sorry to be OT but check out this quote from
the NY Times article "Israel intensifies crackdown in response to suiciding (sic)
bomb". ( Hello? Any editors for hire?)

The army has also fired artillery shells and rockets from helicopters into Gaza, though aimed at unpopulated fields which are sometimes used by the militants to launch mortars and home-made Qassam rockets into Israel.

Wow, what an intense crackdown. Firing at empty fields. Great response to mass murder. That'll teach 'em a lesson. Oh, and don't forget the sonic booms over Gaza. What's next- the Israeli government claiming that Abbas isn't doing enough to fight terrorism?

# 25 W-lover

Try calling a socialist a socialist.

Fun. Fun. Fun.

What gets me is that if America had behaved this way during World War II, we would have pulled out after D-Day and there wouldn't be a single free country--or Jew or Gypsy or other minority--left in Europe.

The pictures are worth a thousand words.

These ghouls are smiling because they are celebrating the fact that 2000 Americans have been killed, mostly by jihaditerrorists, since the start of the war to liberate Iraq.

Anybody who doubts that these are death parties, with ghouls celebrating, needs to take a look at the pictures and at the smiles of these celebrants.

Mr. Daou,
Congratulations on thinking that celebrating these deaths is a horrible thing, what you consider a horrible, low insult. Thank heaven you don't condone the happiness.

Now, to work on your observation of reality.

Also, please note that I am not looking for a justification of the deaths of Americans in Iraq. One word: Constitution. If you want more, we can talk about how Chemical Ali isn't working anymore towards killing me, and similar examples.

I don't feel desperate at all. Just calm, rational disdain for the American scum gleeful over 2000 dead Americans.

dissent ?

What frigging dissent ?

The subversives control with an iron fist the universities and the media, without OUR DISSENT they would have already convinced the American people that freeing tens of millions of Iraqis and Afghans is bad and that keeping Saddam in power is good.

We are the DISSENT, and they can't wait to limit the freedom of Internet to silence us.

And, by the way, why I don't see any sign in their rally saying NO WAR FOR OIL ? Did they forget ? Or the prices at the pump have brought some light to their foggy souls ?

They're LAUGHING their SICK f@#$*# arses off 'cause they're so bemused that 'Bush lied: People died'.

/sarcasm off

Nothing left? The case for Iraq is made stronger by the day by the Iraqis themselves.

"Waaa! I need my free speech but yours makes more sense to people! No fair!"

Q: Why are they smiling?

A: It's a mini glee storm.

#18 Jammie...

Put on local CBS radio to get traffic and weather this morning, didn't turn it off before national news came on.

It's like Abu Grabhe (can't spell that) being on the front page of the LA Times for 36 consecutive days, MSM wants to have Rove in the news daily.

This morning CBS said "And there is no new information on the Karl Rove leak of the CIA operative investigation".

They had candles, smiling, and singing. The only missing was the cake!

Stupid Liberals.

Is this business as usual on the left, or are they going nuts?

Short list:
Vile racist attacks on blacks (ok, they've done it before).
Celebrating military deaths with big smiles.

You know that "tipping point" thing the liberals talk about all the time? Well, has anyone noticed that the liberals seem to be tipping over? Into complete lunacy?

If the MSM publicized these things, the liberal left would be vilified by the public.

Bottom line: If Malkin, LGF, and Blackfive think opponents of the Iraq war are "celebrating" the deaths of American troops, let them answer the basic paradox of their position, namely, how is it that wanting our troops NOT to die is worse than wanting them to remain in the line of fire?

huh? okay, forget the poorly constructed nature of this question.

first, he doesn't deny that they are celebrating.

second, troops die implementing American foreign policy. sad, regretable, tragic but true.

the real question is should the US keep troops in Iraq until the Iraqi's can maintain control themselves, or should we haul ass now and allow the vacume that our departure would create be filled by every tom, dick and ahmed jihadist in the mid east?

these anti war ass hats are still arguing over whether we should have gone into Iraq or not in the first place. news flash kiddies. been there, done that , got the "I Blew Up Bagdad" T Shirt. It's the bottom of the eighth, our starter is tiring and we're trying to decide whether to bring in the hard throwing lefty or the vetern screwballer. ya'll are still aruging over a disputed call from the top of the first.

get in the game!

// baseball analogy off

# 33 GNIDAthe#seCond

Have you tried "Marx Lied, 100 Million Died," on them yet?

ODDLY ENOUGH, LLLs report Republicans were not smiling yesterday--even at a glittering fundraiser, according to the WaPo's Dana Milbank. He wrote a snarky column about the glum (not grim) folks response to President Bush's speech. (in the 10/26/05 Post A section)

Dems love a ghoulish good time in war, like their jihadist fellow travelers.

Peter Daou is a former Web shill for John Kerry. He is irrelevant, as is The Left's purported sympathy for our soldiers.

What gets me is that if America had behaved this way during World War II, we would have pulled out after D-Day

We would have pulled out after Operation Torch...or Pearl Harbor.

The best pictures are those of the camera crews and photographers focusing on the mood they want to create. We need more of that kind of stage management exposed.

It was so easy to see and hear the glee from the "elitist media" as they talked about the 2000 US troops who have lost their lives. The troops themselves have no meaning; just their deaths as a political tool. Every time the brain-dead left scream "bring the troops home" they are urging the terrorist to cause yet another American death.

Tragic, because it represents a descent into depraved, gutter-level slander as a form of argumentation, and it is a profoundly un-American approach to a most American of activities: dissent.

Dissent is properly expressed in the debate which precedes the decision to go to war. When the debate concludes and the decision is made, remaining dissenters are part of the "loyal" opposition.

Daou's Dissenters™ engage in activities which offer aid and encouragement to the enemies of this country. Their deeds are neither "loyal", nor "American".

You disgust me.

Dave the...

Unless there have been leaks, they have no clue that Rove is even a target. Nowhere have I see that Rove has received a target letter.

This is so much ado about nothing, and like I said, if Rove and Libby are indicted, their lawyers sure better drag that lowlife Wilson and his third wife Pflame in. I can't see how the case would survive after demolishing Wilson. And I have a feeling Fitzgerald realizes this.

Random though: Is Valerie Pflame any relation to Joann Pflug?

PIMF "random thought"

I'm breaking in some new fingers today.

HA HA HA HA HA! This is rich! Made my day :

Telling, because it means these bloggers have nothing left to justify the deaths of Americans in Iraq but desperate and transparent attacks on those who want our troops home

"nothing left to justify..."

How about the justification of free elections and a constitution guaranteeing the rights of 25 million formerly oppressed people?

"...those who want our troops home" ?

They hate our troops! They hate everything our troops stand for. They hate everything our country stands for. They prove it every day. The simpering, sniveling and sh*t eating smiles at their so-called milestone is what is desperate and transparent!

Hell, I want our troops home. We all want our troops home...but we all want peace, freedom and prosperity in the world...and that's why our troops aren't home.

Hey Daou,how does it feel now?

The Other Les-

Or call them a commie sympathyzer! LOL!

It's the bottom of the eighth, our starter is tiring and we're trying to decide whether to bring in the hard throwing lefty or the vetern screwballer.

Bring in anybody but Brad "Heartbreak" Lidge.

Let's just pretend for a moment that there was no problem with their "dissent". A couple of points come to mind:

1) If dissent is the most quintessentially American thing to do, dissenting from a dissent should be also be the most quintessentially American thing to do.
2) Is this really dissent if the entire media supports it? Doesn't dissent imply differing from the mainstream opinion coming from the oligarchic mainstream media? Therefore, since these folks are in line with the mainstream opinion promulgated by the media, isn't it true that folks like Charles and Zombie are the true dissenters? Therefore, shouldn't they be celebrated for doing such an American activity?

DAOU - How dhimmies spell dawa

a most American of activities: dissent

These guys need to figure our that in wartime, things change and so must dissent. They don't seem to have the basic sense or maturity to understand what war means.

...it means these bloggers have nothing left to justify the deaths of Americans in Iraq but desperate and transparent attacks on those who want our troops home.

No, we got lots of things that justify it, just like Occasional Reader said.

The personal attacks are just for fun.

"Depraved, gutter-level slander." The Left wouldn't know ANYTHING about that.

Once again, a study in projection. Like when Ted Kennedy came out with his angriest, most booming voice after Katrina struck New Orleans, bellowing: "People were left to drown!"

Bring back all the troops !
Let the muslims build the nukes !

That will give us a good occasion for another, big, candles party.
To remember the X millions Americans killed by the islamofascists in the NEXT attack.

This handful of pictures is proof positive that Teh Liberals hate freedom.

Opportunity to wipe LLL smiles off their faces: (repeating from another thread) Please plan to vote on Nov. 8th in Virginia and New Jersey election to deep six the Kerry-Clinton sponsored team of Kane (VA)-Corzine(NJ).

Defeating democrat clones is like eating chocolate, delicious.

I pass through Times square on the way home from work; last evening I noticed three TV remote trucks at the recruiting station. There were only two protestors one with a flag and one with a sign.

I stayed there for about 5 minutes to see what hapened and nothing; I was only person standing there at that time.

I wish that I had my camera so that I could document the FAILED PROTEST

And you should have checked out all those liberal moonbats celebrating 9/11 on its fourth anniversary by cheering, clapping, dancing and singing along to tunes by Clint Black. Why do they hate America so much?

#26 Ed

...and I for one appreciate it, Ed.

Bring our troops home.

Leave 50 million people in Afghanistan and Iraq at the mercy of murderous thugs.

These people are against human rights.
These people are against freedom.
These people are perverse beyond description.
They are in active support of the enemies of freedom.

"WE SUPPORT THE TORURING WAR CRIMINALS / BRING OUR TROOPS HOME"

The anti-military, anti-American Left is indeed celebrating because "appropriately scary round numbers of casualties" is a cudgel to beat the President with. That is ALL that the sacrifice of those brave, selfless souls means to them. To the Left, American soldiers, airmen and Marines lost in Afghanistan and Iraq are "war criminals who got what they deserved. Abu Graib! Guantanamo!"

(Now our resident contrarian trolls might claim that is a strawman argument, but the LGF archives have 3 years worth of evidence to back it up.)

#52 DD That is one of the most beautiful pictures I've ever seen.

It's a spectacular fall day in Chicago. Best day in 87 years.

Oz is right: "It's better to be lucky than good."

To that I add to my fellow Lizardoids:

" Don't be good and you might just get lucky."

#59 Mission Accomplished

This handful of pictures is proof positive that Teh Liberals hate freedom.

No, they "love" freedom, as long as it's free and for themselves alone.

Oh geez, the third picture down on the link to Zombie's pictures is an old manager of mine when I worked at a bank in Atlanta. I always respected her (she taught me a lot) but I never thought she would devolve into a moonbat when she took a job in SF years ago.

Tragic, because it represents a descent into depraved, gutter-level slander as a form of argumentation, and it is a profoundly un-American approach to a most American of activities

I like how these people who think everyone serving in the military is either some kind of semi-litrate gangbanger or hillbilly (because as we all know, they had 'No other choice (TM)) are now that arbiter of what is and isn't 'Un-American'.

It's fine for them to redefine Patriotism as they see fit- i.e. kicking and screaming like a petulant child because their party keeps losing, which to them means that their 'dissent' is the ultimate form of patriotism, not supporting our soldiers OR their mission. But us wingnuts dare to question their patriotism still. Even seeing after the Code Pinko types who were all smiles at the supposedly 'somber and respectful' 2000 dead soldiers vigil. I doubt they could've mustered enough energy to pretend to care about our troops (which is why they decided to throw in some made-up numbers about Iraqi civilians...odd how it's been holding steady at 100,000 for the past two years now).

I hate every last one of these useless tools.

#40 the other Les

Have you tried "Marx Lied, 100 Million Died," on them yet?

Great line. I want the bumpersticker.

These folks are in the Kingdom of Nye! They look like extras in Steven Spielberg's CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND. 'These' people feed on misery--they eat it up like animals at a trough ... They're sick and twisted like maggots. In another time the men would have been weeded out by a Plague or war, their women taken into slavery.

Anyone else see the WaPo's lead editorial yesterday entitled "Vice President of Torture"? Perhaps someone here mentioned it?

Besides ghoulishly gleeful headline, the article crowed McCain's Abu Ghraib legislation won 90 to something over the administration's CheneyBushHalliburtonGrimMilestone opposition.

#68 Spiny Norman

No, they "love" freedom, as long as it's free and for themselves alone.

They are mystified that anybody would actually hold any belief dear enough to die for it.

OT - breaking.

Prosecution in al-Arian trial rests this morning.

Sami shocks courtroom by putting on no defense.

Fired professor presents no defense in terrorism-support trial

re: Party like it's 1999. Party because it's #2000.

I see mostly smiles in these pics.

Pretty neat how only soldiers in Iraq have deaths that "count" to liberals. I mean you'd think that patriots who support our troops like Daou does would be outraged at people flinging around a number of troop deaths without including equally valuable and beloved troops serving in Afghanistan and elsewhere. And since some of these deaths were non-combat, when can we expect to see the celebrations commemorations of troops that died in vehicle accidents and training exercises stateside?

Listen Peter, the cost you pay in using the corpses of our heroes as a way to advance your agenda, is that someone is likely to point out that you're using the corpses of our heroes as a way to advance your agenda.

#74
to a demi-god nothing is as precious as their own life.

They are nothing but mere mutants from the cesspool that did the same to us during 'Nam, they should have died when they were babies!

#69 Pbsi

Oh geez, the third picture down on the link to Zombie's pictures is an old manager of mine when I worked at a bank in Atlanta. I always respected her (she taught me a lot) but I never thought she would devolve into a moonbat when she took a job in SF years ago.

Maybe she's just adopting the moonbat protective coloration in order to further her job prospects.

/Although it seems that a photo like that would doom her upward progression in any other city in the USA.

What bothers me most is that this 'grim milestone' seems so arbitrary. What makes 2000 a milestone? The fact that it's an even number? Or that it's divisible by 1000? Is the 2000th death any more important than the 763rd?

Nope. The number 2000 is not a milestone. If it is, please give me a historical precedent as to why 2000 is so significant. The number 2000 is an excuse for a gathering. It's an excuse to sell newspapers. It's manufactured.

If this has been previously stated, please excuse. I've been out of town for a couple of days.

FROM ATLAS SHRUGGED BLOG:

Did you know WMDs have been found in Iraq?

1.77 metric tons of enriched uranium

1,500 gallons of chemical weapons agents

17 chemical warheads containing cyclosarin (a nerve agent five times more deadly than sarin gas)

Over 1,000 radioactive materials in powdered form meant for dispersal over populated areas

Roadside bombs loaded with mustard and "conventional" sarin gas, assembled in binary chemical projectiles for maximum potency

This is only a PARTIAL LIST of the horrific weapons verified to have been recovered in Iraq to date. Yet, Americans overwhelmingly believe U.S. and coalition forces found NO weapons of mass destruction.

The question is... WHY do they believe this lie?

[Link: atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com...]

Just imagine if John Kerry had been elected.

He would, right now, be attempting to bring our soldiers home by sending more of them over.

The MSM would not see this as a contradiction and would probably laud him for his visionary approach.

HEY! Where's my Karl Rove frogmarch?

I want my frog march!

/sarc

What the hell is a frogmarch anyway?

#40 The Other Les

Have you tried "Marx Lied, 100 Million Died," on them yet?

Can I get that T-shirt in a cornflower blue?

Oz is right: "It's better to be lucky than good."

Eh, I'd have to disagree with that. Luck is a byproduct of opportunity, preparedness, and skill.

The ChiSox weren't "lucky" they were good.

I was there last night, BTW. I still have my ticket for tonight's game.

Warning: Graphic Image

a most American of activities: dissent

So I guess by this definition Fred "God Hates Fags"/"Another Fag Soldier in Hell" Phelps is a great American?

If the shoe fits...

when will all of you grow up and stop using examples of extremists to caricature entire schools of thought and tens of millions of thinking Americans who love this country? if I took all the rightwing nutjobs and used them to caricature the GOP it would look a lot worse than a few smiling idiots at an anti-war protest- do the country a favor and get serious- we have real issues to deal with

J.S.

[Link: voicesof...] reason.info

Interestingly, almost all the "dissidents" in zombie's pictures are middle aged white people.

Daou asks the question:

how is it that wanting our troops NOT to die is worse than wanting them to remain in the line of fire?

The troops are better skilled and better prepared to protect themselves and the American public than the American public.

#84 acwusa

What the hell is a frogmarch anyway?

Well, I've frogmarched some perps upstanding citizens until proven guilty in the past.

Dropped a couple comments over there. Saw a couple other lizards did, too. Good posts, lizards!

How much you wanna bet our visits are going to make Daou's head explode? Expect to see some type of poster filtering in the near future ala Kos and DU. After all, liberals are all for dissent -- as long as you don't dissent with their views!

90 jscorse2

You mean like the photoshopping of our Secretary of State to make her look demonic?

Oh no, you probably mean the comparisons of Bush to Hitler at MoveOn.org...wait, maybe you meant Al Gore's campaign manager saying "We're not gonna let the whiteys win." Hmmm...maybe it was...

Were these all 'extremists'?

..."nothing left to justify the deaths of Americans in Iraq"...

How about, so another Beslan won't occur in here in the USA?

We are engaged in stopping a perverse, murderous way of behaving, which COULD and WOULD spread if we didn't stop it.

I Want our trroops home too.

O Peter Daou, please go read many history books, see what depravity the human race is able to reach, and what has been done to stop the plunge.

I honor every one of the fallen, and I am not smiling about it.

#80 SwampWoman

Maybe she's just adopting the moonbat protective coloration in order to further her job prospects.

Somehow I don't think so. During one of the "evenings with the gang" on her boat she told me that one of the things she liked best about me was that I knew where to draw the line regarding moral & ethical issues and that she never knew where the line was. I didn't believe her then but seeing what she has gotten herself into I now think she knew herself better than I thought she did. What a shame.

#94 MoonbatBane, are the lizards answering Daou's question?

how is it that wanting our troops NOT to die is worse than wanting them to remain in the line of fire?

#75 socaljustice:

Some weeks it seems that this place turns into CourtTV.

We've got the whole Plame kerfuffle that awaits word from the grand jury, al Arian's defense rests without putting on a defense (was there really ever a defense to his actions?), and yesterday the jury in a trial on the 1993 WTC bombing found that the Port Authority of NY/NJ was negligent and more liable than the terrorists who actually detonated the bomb that killed six and wounded over 1000 people. That's right. The terrorists were less responsible. Somewhere Cardozo is spinning in his grave (can I get a proximate cause that wasn't bombers who were dedicated to blowing stuff up somewhere in the proximity of the WTC?)

As a practical matter, that means that the Port Authority will be forking out millions of dollars (as the deep pockets), and it sets up precedent for any upcoming 9/11 trials against the Port Authority.

And one more thing, jscorse2:

Why is the 2000th death a 'grim milestone'?

Is it the mathematical attributes?

If not, please give me a historical perspective on why 2000 is so significant.

#90 jscorsese

Maybe a conservative rally would look worse, and maybe it wouldn't; but you can't deny---all these guys do have big grins plastered to their faces, at the thought of 2,000 American dead. Mourning they aren't.

This country does face serious issues. The Left isn't helping us face them with its constant protesting, demonizing the Bush administration and shouting "Racist!" "Islamophobia!" at anyone who dares criticize Islam. Isn't it about time the Left got real?

#82 Poitiers:

Any idea where one can find the source material for this? Of AS' list, the only one which I recall is:

Roadside bombs loaded with mustard and "conventional" sarin gas, assembled in binary chemical projectiles for maximum potency

And btw I don't think her description here is quite right. I don't think mustard gas is stored in binary form (not sure about that, though), though the sarin could be. And the binary form is primarily used for safety reasons, not to increase potency--in fact, this is why the roadside bombs did NOT gas any coalition personnel, because the "insurgents" didn't realize the shells were chemical agents, so they just blew up the primary charge, and the chemicals didn't mix to create the nerve agent.

#100 Matticus Finch, after all it could have been reached earlier if they counted in octals.

#90 jscorse2 10/27/2005 08:49AM PDT

when will all of you grow up and stop using examples of extremists to caricature entire schools of thought and tens of millions of thinking Americans who love this country?

The problem, jscorse2, is that these opinions are NOT fringe. They should be, but they aren't.

Take a look at moveon.org, DU, and Daily Kos. -- the online vanguard of the increasingly prominent left wing of the Democrat party. Take a look at the MSM's constant harping on everything bad in Iraq, with no mention of the good. They basically "report" moveon.org talking points. What you call the "extremists" are significant enough that Hillary is in real trouble if she doesn't appease them with anti-war rhetoric. They are a source of a lot of money for the Democrats. And these smiling ghouls are typical of this anti-war BDS suffering crowd.

They're clearly smiling because they're hysterically sad. Can't you just see the undertones of depression and despair beneath those smiling facades?

/sarc

#90 jscorse2

Those are extremists? Look like run-of-the mill Democrat voters to me.

Funny, they don't look like Quakers at all... I had no idea there were so many Quakers in San Francisco.

Anyone know how much sales in champagne went up in the past week in the San Fran/Bezerkly area?

Just asking!

Maybe they were actaully celebrating New Zealand Labour day. Yeah, yeah! Thats the ticket!

#103 Roger

/matticus furiously looking up the word 'octal'

#77 model 4

Yesterday a banner that tallied 2,161 deaths mysteriously turned backwards and said 2,000 on the corner of 18th and K Streets, NW in our nation's moonbatty capital city, Washington, DC.

The lying extends to Fake but Accurate numbers! Brought to you by some workers group whose acronym I forgot to write down. Need a camera like Zombie's to document this Potemkin stuff.

Bottom line: If Malkin, LGF, and Blackfive think opponents of the Iraq war are "celebrating" the deaths of American troops, let them answer the basic paradox of their position, namely, how is it that wanting our troops NOT to die is worse than wanting them to remain in the line of fire?

I love it when liberal dolts smugly think that they win arguments with sophistry like that.

You don't determine foreign policy, Peter. YOU are endangering our troops by undermining their mission. The terrorists know they are fighting a war they can't win. They are counting on numbskulls like you to pressure our government into cutting and running, just like your moonbat predecessors did in the Viet Nam era. That's why they continue the pointless exercise of trying to pick our troops off a couple at a time. If you're so sure of yourself, you insufferable cretin, why don't you ask our troops if they appreciate your "help"?

Spare me your disingenuous bullshit. The Iraq War, Hurrican Katrina, Avian Flu - you will use anything to validate your irrational hatred of the Bush Administration. Who the hell do you think you're kidding?

#108 Matticus Finch

[Link: encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com...]
1024_{base 10}=2000_{base 8}

For base 8 the count add a digit between 8 and 9 because there is no 9 and 10

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 20...

As Jack Nicholson so famously said, "You can't handle the truth!" That's what the entire problem is with the left. Reality and truth denial.

Does anybody know what the ratio is of Wiccans to Leftists at the Toronto Public School Board in Cana-duh?

OT

but not that OT. An independent research unit has tracked down some very unsavoury Islamic sites to the University of Geneva.

The lefties had no idea what they were hosting... well, maybe.

Genfer Uni-Rechner für islamische Hass-Webseiten missbraucht

It'll probably get translated into English sooner or later.

OT:

MUSLIMS KILL SIX IN SOUTHERN THAILAND.

At least six people have died in a wave of co-ordinated attacks in southern Thailand, which officials blamed on suspected Muslim militants.
The attackers took dozens of weapons from the homes of village chiefs and defence volunteers...

...

The government blames Muslim separatists - seeking independence from the majority-Buddhist north - for the violence.

That was supposed to include a link.

#73 alegrias

Hell, why not? There was a headline yesterday that said that Abbas was trusted!

Trusted Abbas courts US

The Americans are positive about the Palestinian leadership. They clearly trust Mahmoud Abbas.

Traditionally the Americans have accepted the Israeli paradigm - that it is Palestinian terrorism that causes the problem, and which must first be stopped before there can be any progress on peace.

Today Mahmoud Abbas put across the Palestinian viewpoint.

Israel blames Palestinian leaders for failing to curb the violence.

He said peace could not be brought through building walls and checkpoints.

And the Americans seem to accept that neither viewpoint can be dismissed.

Which Americans? The ones smiling in the 2000 deaths party pics?

#100 matticus finch

In case you missed it, 2000 was the year Al Gore was supposed to beat Bush but lost, as did John McCain in SC. Bush Derangement Syndrome began in 2000.

Before 2000, the year 2000 was called Y2K amongst the Clinton administration folks who spent 8 years preparing for the great event that never happened--instead of focusing on Al Qaeda attacks that DID happen on their watch.

So 2000 is jinxed yet magical for Dems, and provides them another opportunity to Bash Bush(TM) without shame.

#115 Chicken Kiev

Get our troops out of Thailand!

/waiting for the banner at the "vigils".

The "peace" protestors just aren't being honest with themselves. They get a charge off of American loss. They groove on American defeat. They feel empowered, important, justified, and rightous when America fails. They need "grim milestones", such as this, the same way a junkie needs a fix. They are ghouls and they don't even know it.

Mother Sheehan's latest antics:

Yesterday, started off with a "bang" when we went to Arlington Cemetery to lay a wreath in the section where the Iraq War dead are buried. In our group yesterday morning were 3 other members of Gold Star Families for Peace.

First of all, I was followed all morning by the Park Police. I guess because I am a very dangerous subversive. I would never hurt a flea, but what I am dangerous to is the lies and corruption of our government.

Secondly, Juan, Beatriz Saldivar, and Julie Cuniglio who have all had loved ones killed in this war had brought pictures of their dead loved ones with them to Arlington. We were told by the administration of the cemetery that they couldn't take the pictures into the cemetery because they were "political statements!" We were stunned that pictures of our children that have been killed for lies and betrayals and for purely political reasons can't be shown in a cemetery that supposedly honors those who have served, some making the ultimate sacrifice in war. We are living in a state that kills our children then calls them political statements. That speaks volumes to the chicken hawks who we are allowing to ruin our country.

Of course the sole reason for Sheehan's attendance at Arlington was to make a political statement. Link to entire rant.

#98 Roger:

how is it that wanting our troops NOT to die is worse than wanting them to remain in the line of fire?

You seem to labor under the illusion that the two stances are mutually exclusive.

Are you by any chance of the mind that police shouldn't confront criminals and that firemen shouldn't fight fires, since it's inherently safer for them to remain at their stations sipping coffee? If so, why do we have them in the first place? If not, why do you then think that we should have a military, but that they not engage in combat? I mean other than the obvious reason, that you feel you can use the efforts, suffering and sacrifices of our soldiers for your own political advantage, where in the other examples you can't.

#102 OR

Evidence of Iraqi WMDs:

Iraqi WMDs are in Syria -- from the Telegraph

Sarin and mustard gas found in Iraq, says Fox News

1,500 gallons of chemicals including nerve agents found in Mosul stockpile, says the WaPo.

Warheads containing sarin found by Polish troops, says USA Today.

#93 Swamp Woman

Well, I've frogmarched some perps upstanding citizens until proven guilty in the past.

I've always imagined you as a "goose-neck-come-along" girl, not a frogmarcher. ;)

Peter Daou thinks we're un-American? Send that assclown a 6-pack of STFU; put it on my tab.

No OT thread!

IRAN HARBORING 25 QAEDA BIGS

October 27, 2005 -- At least 25 high-ranking al Qaeda members — including three of Osama bin Laden's sons — are reportedly living free in Iran and beyond the grasp of the U.S. military, it was reported yesterday.

I certainly hope Iran is next.

#98 Roger 10/27/2005 08:55AM PDT

#94 MoonbatBane, are the lizards answering Daou's question?

how is it that wanting our troops NOT to die is worse than wanting them to remain in the line of fire?

To some degree. I typed a response and then lost it -- grrr. Here's what I posted instead:

I'll grant that you on the left do not want to see more US troops getting killed. However, as evidenced by all those smiles, you're side is more encouraged by a hoped-for advance of your anti-war anti-Bush political agenda than you are pained by their deaths. That's the sade reality, whether you realize it or not.

My first stab involved how the left cares about the deaths of US troops the same as they see all war-related deaths, namely as the result of immoral war. I wanted to ask if he mourned the death of Iraqi "insuregents" (really foreign terrorists) the same as he mourned the death of US troops, but couldn't word it properly before I lost the post. I also wanted to get into how they don't care about the soldiers as individuals, as evidenced by their proclivity to hold our troops to impossible standards and to castigate them for every perceived wrongdoing. However, I didn't get it worded the way I wanted it. Might try again later.

Some other poeple have posted along these lines.

#127 Sarah D

I certainly hope Iran is next.

You warmongerist, you.

#128 Moonbatbane

That was a good response. I was so angry last night (re the parties celebrating the 2,000 dead) that I couldn't even post.

#127 Sarah D:

I certainly hope Iran is next.

Hopefully, "President" Ahmadinejad will help things along by doing something really stupid, like, I dunno, maybe publicly declaring his support for genocide in a way so blatant it can't be ignored by the MSM or something...

#123 Model4, is that how you answered Daou's question?

Liberal Anti-patriotism

If the shoe fits...
 

A poster named Ty over on Daou said it well:

"[H]ow is it that wanting our troops NOT to die is worse than wanting them to remain in the line of fire?"

Disengenuous. Your question assumes a fact not in evidence -- that the majority of purported "antiwar" folks are motivated by a desire to keep our troops from dying. Certainly, the statements from many such folks reveals a virulent hatred of the US. I am also curious as to why so many so-called "antiwar" folks seemed quite happy for Bill Clinton to send US troops all over the globe.

In any case, a blind desire to "bring the troops home" is not necessariuly in the troops' best interest, even if we assume that this is your true motivation. Any rational person can see how such protests could embolden our enemy and actually increase the danger to our troops. For that matter, imagine what the world would be like if such an argument had prevailed in World War II or the American Civil War? In either case, "bringing the troops home" would have resulted in horrific consequences. Have the antiwar folks bothered to poll the troops on this issue?

And frankly, I am unconvinced that most of the "antiwar" folks are actually opposed to war. I think that they are just opposed to the US. Certainly, they seem unconcerned that their conduct may well encourage our enemies.

Even if they do not intend for the Islamist fanatics to be encouraged, so what? Seems to me that a grownup should be held to intend the consequences of an act, if those consequences are reasonably forseeable.

In any case, I have a question for you that I can't seem to get any antiwar folks to answer --

Do you think that a majority of Iraqis wish that Saddam was still in power?

Wonder if Ty is a lizard over here. In any case, he's an anti-idiotarian, and definitely nailed the point!

When you watch a Leftist blather on, you begin to understand their mindset:

- It is 1975 all over again
- Iraq is Vietnam
- The elected Iraqi government is viewed the same as South Vietnam was by the Left: a hinderance to a "peaceful" reunification
- The terrorists are the Vietcong, who "simply want the US out," even when they're massacring their "own people" wholesale
- Al-Zaqawri is their Ho Chi Minh, who simply fights for Iraq's "freedom," not because he wants to turn the country into a hellhole
- Bush is Nixon, characterized as evil incarnate and whose removal will "bring peace"

The Left keep wanting it to be Vietnam all over again because, in Vietnam, they were "right" and carried the day for the "loyal opposition." They, of course, ignore the fact that millions died due to their "victory," but why mess up a happy ending with inconvenient facts?

(#99) lawhawk

Court TV should have their own Jihadi netowrk where they only cover terrorist trials. There's certainly plenty of material...

Aside from Sami, today we've got:

Muslim doctor sent to prison for charity fraud

And, a major trial starting next week in the Eastern District of Virginia:

Va. Terror Suspect's Torture Story Improbable, Judge Says

wanting our troops NOT to die

What a mendacious, sanctimonious windbag.

You don't "support the troops" by shouting "don't go in there, soldier, it's dangerous!"

SOLDIERS KNOW IT'S DANGEROUS AND DO IT ANYWAY.

This isn't hard to understand. Peter Daou is just being a typical LLLiar, maybe even to himself. This "challenge" to LGF et al is simply re-phrased thus:

"Waaahhh!"

Big deal. Here's a hankie. Just don't get in the way of adults protecting your pathetic snivelling.

Evil doesn't like the light. And that is exactly what Zombie did with the photographs when the roaches were surprised. But they're not as smart as the roaches because the stopped to pose.

You can tell lies over and over and many will believe. But when you're caught with a stupid smile on your face over death (ala Bill Clinton at Ron Brown's funeral), it's a little hard to deny.

This guys a phony, pious snot who probably cheered when soldiers were dragged down the streets of Somalia. And his hippy parents probably were spitting on returning soldiers 40 years ago.

137 godfrey 10/27/2005 09:31AM PDT

SOLDIERS KNOW IT'S DANGEROUS AND DO IT ANYWAY.

That's the Grey Tribe/sheep dog mindset, and frankly one that few on the left can even begin to grasp.

Frogmarch sounds like the name of a nu-punk band. Hmmm, I might be on to something here...

#131 occasional reader:

I think Confederate Yankee nailed the Iran issue yesterday. He's thinking the Iranians want to test Israeli nukes, not the other way around.

My take is that every time some totalitarian nutter in the Middle East rants and raves about destroying Israel and throwing the Israelis into the sea, the country they lead ends up losing bigtime.

are these not the same loony leftists like Ted (girl-killer at Chappaquiddick) Kennedy who held a press conference to celebrate the one year anniversary of the Abu Ghraib scandal ?

sick bastards

no, scratch that "sick" part
just bastards

Peter Daou:

it is a profoundly un-American approach to a most American of activities: dissent. Telling, because it means these bloggers have nothing left to justify the deaths of Americans in Iraq but desperate and transparent attacks on those who want our troops home.

You visited any of the military bloggers writing from Iraq or Afghanistan? I just don't see a lot of whining from them about wanting to come home.

Let me point out that its real difficult to look at these people celebrating the deaths of my compatriots and former brothers in arms without thinking that they would be hoping that I would die, were I still on active duty-and that the death of my brother or niece now serving would give them even more cause for joy.

Further, all of us that volunteered (that's right, volunteered~!) had some idea of the risk we were taking. Those of us that volunteered more than once had an even better idea the second time around: we knew the daily dangers of living and working in an industrial environment that in and of itself alone could kill and maim, and we also knew that even if we weren't at "war," that wasn't going to keep us from getting shot at in different parts of the world. So yes, all of us who know and value our troops do indeed want them home safe and sound. We just happen to know that that just isn't possible, especially when they aren't just fighting the elements and daily hazards of military life but fighting a murderous enemy whose goal is nothing less than the destruction of Western Civilization and you along with it.

Our volunteer military isn't composed of all of a piece of moral cretins, odious neanderthals, and uneducated hicks and losers. (The best translation of Sun Tzu, ever, was by a Marine.) Many have completed degrees either during or after their service, and become successful in a variety of endeavours unrelated to the business of killing enemies and breaking implements of war and destruction. To imply that they are too stupid to know why they are on the field of battle is more than insulting, and its disingenuous to try to call rooting for their death and failure "dissent." Its just another way to try to weasel your way out of being labeled what you are: UnAmerican.

Done with you, you imbecilic moral moron.

And a wave to The Other Les. You are exactly right: these are the people that would have cheered our deaths had we the grace to die on duty, and now cheer the deaths of a younger generation of patriots that have taken up the torch of liberty.

/Done ranting for the hour.

29--Minstrel--or gay,or handicapped, or brunette, or erderly or alzheimeric, or leftie, or professional-job female-- kinda like the islam agenda too.

#111 Roger

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 20...

I don't think that's right. I think it works like this...

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 10
11 12 13 14 15 16 17 20
...

there is no 8 and 9 beause 8 becomes 10, ie, 1x8 (to the power 1) + 1x8(to the power 0)

so 2000 in base 8 (or octal) is calcuated as
2x8(to the power 3) +
0x8(to the power 2) +
0x8(to the power 1) +
0x8(to the power 0) =
2x512 + 0 + 0 + 0 = 1024 as you already said.

From Blackfive:

A free Iraq is worth fighting for. A free Middle East is worth fighting for. A world free of terrorism is worth fighting for.

Amen.

*Note to Blackfive: You occassionally mention on your blog a soldier who was killed last year with the 82nd. My brother went to school with him. He was a good guy. Those little things you do don't go unnoticed. Thank you!

143_EW1(SG)-- And if the troops in the sands of Iraq moving on Baghdad had been gassed or nerve-toxin'd, then what would have been the mantra then. Not mentioned much is this opposite result,like they are disappointed the militarydidn't get f*cked over.
Most peole have a memeory ofabout 18months for current affairs, national and local I think. So the menace of SAddam is largely forgotten, even tho the murderous behavior was apparent at times over years.

If we hadn't stopped using paraquat in eradicating marijuana fields maybe we would not be in the midst of such a moonbat explosion.

;-)

#102 Occasional Reader

(Sorry , I am back only now)

AS links to Human Events as a source for the list of WMDs, but it's a subscription $$$ page and we are left without a source.

Frogmarch:

What Kermit does in the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade.

#129 Swampwoman

Shouldn't that be "warmongrol"?

(duck & run)

Listen Peter, the cost you pay in using the corpses of our heroes as a way to advance your agenda, is that someone is likely to point out that you're using the corpses of our heroes as a way to advance your agenda.

Nice, Model. :->

#124 Chicken

Hey!

Stop spreading that stuff around!

Someone might actaully read it

#137 godfrey:

You don't "support the troops" by shouting "don't go in there, soldier, it's dangerous!"

Not a thread that would normally draw a chuckle from me, but that did.

Definitely a " Well, DUH!" moment. I sometimes forget just where the stupidity lies, thanks for reminding me.

#145 Kirly, thanks, you're right.

EW1(SG)

Why aren't you back in the line of fire, dammit!
Get back in there, plebe! Your job is to absorb bullets, not move your undereducated probably-oppressed misguided-and-lied-to yap! One thing I can't stand, it's baby-killers getting uppity.

/what Daou thinks we're saying

When what we're really saying is:

We are proud and grateful for your service, EW1(SG).

As noted below, How do stupid, poor white folk live in the bay area? I thought real estate was exhorbitant there?

F*ck Peter Daou, and f*ck the dhimmi horse he rode in on.

@123 model4

The poster you addressed is of the cultural group that think two things. Nothing is worth fighting for, so it's not worth putting your life on line for.
The other is if you don't put yourself in situations of danger (does this guy drive a car?) you will not ever die. You'll be immortal.
Their fear of death is palpable.

#159 quark2, actually that is Daou's question that I posted to talk about. Not mine. See #92 & #98

A happier-looking lot of freaks and deviates would be hard to find...

"desperate and transparent attacks on those who want our troops home."

So? They want our troops home. How nice. Why should anyone give a damn what they think? They aren't fighting the war. They face no threat of being drafted.

How about asking THE TROOPS if they want to come home? How about asking the Iraqi people? What would they think of the coalition forces simply packing up and going home to appease a bunch of "peace" protestors?

The reason these people "want our troops home" is because they want us to lose, and the only way that can happen is if they somehoe manage to get us to pack it all up and go home. They don't give a flying fuck about the troops -- that's the entire reason they oppose the war, because they think our troops are a bunch of neandertahls and war criminals.

"Bring our troops home" is a transparent euphamism for "let's bend over and garb our ankles and let the enemy have their way with us".

#143 EW1(SG):

...fighting a murderous enemy whose goal is nothing less than the destruction of Western Civilization and you along with it.

Part of the problem here is that they a) don't believe that we're actually in such a fight, and b) don't believe that Western Civilization is worth defending even if we are.

#156 godfrey:

Why aren't you back in the line of fire, dammit!

One too many birthdays before I realized that there was a ruckus on. Hopping mad about that, as there are lots of guys oldern me that get to play in the sandbox.

When what we're really saying

And I join you in saying to the current generation.

#163 lobo91:

Part of the problem here

I don't think its "part of the problem." I think that's all of it!

If Pete Daou was against the war, then why did he work for the Kerry Campaign as editor of the Kerry internet rapid response group?

@160 Roger

Thanx for the correction.

and it is a profoundly un-American approach to a most American of activities: dissent.

BS! Talking about dessent in America where difference of opinion, freedom of speech, is guaranteed and protected is a total idiocy that only exitable and ignorant would believe in. There is a term that applies to a group of people who root for their country to loose the war, though - the fifth column.

Telling, because it means these bloggers have nothing left to justify the deaths of Americans in Iraq but desperate and transparent attacks on those who want our troops home.

Not as disperate as trying to pretend that "those who want our troops home" is not an euphemism for "those wanting America to loose in Iraq", which bringing our troops home without securing freedom for Iraqis would actually be.

There is a term that applies to a group of people who root for their country to loose the war, though, and it is not the "dessenters", it's the fifth column.

If the terrorists, I mean militants, in Iraq decide to call for a draft for more terro...i mean insurgent troops, would the moonbats of KoSS and DU have to serve?

Just askin!

Hey guys, lay off Peter Daou, I mean he basically laid the ground work for the Cedar Revolution. Ignore Walid Jumblatt whe he says the invasion of Iraq made the Cedar Revolution thinkable. Ignore Assad's idiot assasination (s), nothing to do with it. The REAL man behind the curtain is Peter Daou.

/is this needed?

By the way Peter was in Beruit when the barracks were bombed, that makes him an expert in war and peace (I take his other claims with a serious grain of salt). You guys who fought in Iraq no nothing about such things. NOT. Oh, by the way, I was in Vienna when a Warsaw Pact diplomat was killed, you may write to me with all your assasination related questions as I am obviously an expert.

#159 Quark2

"The other is if you don't put yourself in situations of danger (does this guy drive a car?) you will not ever die. You'll be immortal."

What? You wanna live forever?

/channeling one of my old Sgts.

Hey Haus, the militants are and I guess the LLL should sign up. Sick 'em boys

#170 David

"By the way Peter was in Beruit when the barracks were bombed, that makes him an expert in war and peace"

To me that makes him a suspect.

Round him up and take him downtown for interogation.

Moonbat:
"Mommy, I just got a notice to report from some guy named Osama Bin Laden. What should I Do"

Mom:
"I don't know son, its sounds important. You better put down that bong and get on over there before you get in trouble."

I'll make an accusation that the majority of the "Grim Milestone" revelers couldn't care less about the safety (or lack thereof) of American soldiers. How much outright contempt have these flocks of Berkeley moonbats shown toward all things military?

No, their contrived little shindigs were just group therapy sessions for BDS sufferers.

Miles of Smiles!

*spit*

Fuckin Bastards,How bout a 9 on the ricter scale San Fran. That would make me smile

Oh I see, dissent of dissent is what is un-American. I'm glad the left is there to rationalize this for me.

It's 2000 you say who have all gone away
And you feign to have felt their last pain
But they've gone to their rest
With the rest of the best
And their sacrifice wasn't in vain

For you see they knew well
That though Earth can be Hell
It's a struggle that we all are given
They wanted to live
But were willing to give
Now they bask in the glories of Heaven

They weren't there for the oil
Or imperialist soil
They were there to bring freedom to strangers
They extended their hands
In that far away land
All in spite of the risks and the dangers

You see there are things
That courage and strength brings
That are much more important than you know
Things like justice and freedom
And hope for the future
Are seeds that their lives helped to sew

So when you lay in your bed
And count all the dead
Try to think of the good they have done
Join the others who feel
That their legacy's real
Iraq's future of peace in the sun

It should be obvious to everyone that the zombietimes photos of the 2,000th death parties are fake.

Supposedly, there were "commemorations" (i.e. protests) in San Francisco and Berkeley, attended mostly by white, middle-aged hippies. Are we supposed to believe that everyone kept their clothes on?

it's been 31 years since the fall of saigon. i always thought that a clip of john kerrys' 1972 speech before congress could have been mixed with film of the fall of saigon. it would have been powerful - as he testifies that vietnam was only a civil war and only a couple of thousand people would have to be relocated and a couple of thousand would be killed. the nightly clips bothered me - the withdrawl of foreign personnel and the thousands of vietnamese trying to get away. the fruit of the lefts' victory.

@180 Paul from Hamburg

Are you the lfger who had to leave Saudi, moving back to Virginia?

...Bottom line: If Malkin, LGF, and Blackfive think opponents of the Iraq war are "celebrating" the deaths of American troops, let them answer the basic paradox of their position, namely, how is it that wanting our troops NOT to die is worse than wanting them to remain in the line of fire?

One either has to be a simpleton or a 100% full-blown isolationist who either cannot recognize an evil that needs to be fought or else refuses to fight it to say the above.

Why wouldn't they smile? Their best friends are members of a death cult.

#184 transferthem -
Just wait 'till the time when their daughters start bringing home their jihadi boyfriends.
"But, Dad, you said..."

We'll see if things change then.

# 181 peggie

I was 14 when Saigon fell. I still remember the film of the Soviet tanks rolling onto the grounds of the Presidential palace.

It will always be Saigon, not Mass-Murdering Mother-FOXTROT City, for me.

188 other les the human toll was the most haunting. people trying to get over walls and being pushed back - people trying to get into helicopters and being pushed away. absolutely desperate. the toll on the people trying to make it out on boats. remember the film killing fields. if they insist on comparing this to iraq maybe it's time to take a walk down memory lane. during the u.n. year of the child [1980 ish] there wasn't a child under the age of 5 alive in cambodia.

"desperate and transparent"

Yes that about says it all.

What a piece of Michael Moore-ish propoganda. You're telling me that in an event that took over three hours, all you could find were people smiling? Where was the little boy flying a kite?

186 Iron Fist

Way cool site. Thanks for that link.

#191 liberality

Where was the little boy flying a kite?

That would be you,
And I bet the kite had a happy face on it.
:)

fuck them. What have they done to earn the right to sneer at us? Those pictures could have been me, my sister, my friends, my sons.

Re #178:

You pathetic fluffer, your fellow shitbord canuckistan already beat you to that cheap-assed attempt at a slur.

Ah, pointing out logical inconsistencies is a slur. As a side note, I even saw some of my family members 'celebrate' at the funeral of my grandma. Those liberal bastards were smiling and even laughing out loud shortly after the funeral. Those jerks, how the must have enjoyed the fact that my grandma died.

Peter Daou is a desperate and transparent person. The left made this a game. Look through our recent past (Vietnam up until now). It's the liberals that are the masters of the body count. The fact is is that there are evil rulers in this world and they need to be confronted. Unfortunatly, this takes force of arms. And yet every time America does the right thing and moves to correct these villians, the left starts the counter ticking from day one! There is now no other nation in the world who has the strength or resolve to face these villians other than the U.S, Australia, a few former Warsaw Pact nations (where freedom and democracy still taste sweet because they remember first-hand the alternative)and for now, the U.K. Of these, only America has the only truly global reach, so the bulk of the work falls to us. I mean, damn, think about it rationaly for a minute. On one hand there's osama bin ladin; who obviously hates America and the West and on the other,there's sadam hussian (incorrect spelling, but I don't care); who obviously hates America and the West. And they're not going to get together even though they have SO much in common?

Ah the bravery of the trolls, to infest a dead thread.
Such cojones!

/sarc

zombie, LGFW links you too! Claims he knows you asked these people to smile. hmmm. How does he know? Were you being 'watched'?