Occupation, you say? Why hasn't the left told us about this?

Turks out of Cyprus NOW!

/and out of Thrace, and out of Asia Minor...

Cyprus is another example of a REAL occupation in the ME -- which the world ignores because it's too busy blaming Israel for the region's miseries.

Another flourishing city destroyed by Islam.

B-but, the Turks are good guys, aren't they?

/sarc

Reconquer Constantinople!

is this what Paris will look like in 5 years?

who will flick the off switch on the city of light once that happens?

just wonderin'

Does Greece care?

Wow, that is some craziness. A whole city emptied. Why on earth would the Turks still enforce that?

Great Caesar's ghost what a waste!

I was on the USS FDR in the med when all of this was going on. It was not a pleasant place to be. We anchored off the coast for weeks on end looking at the same rocky island. We were there to evacuate any US Citizens who had the bad timing to be there as well.
It is one of those places where I would never want to go back to.

That house would be going for 1.2 million in the San Fran area.

#10 mglazer

Does Greece care?

Probably, but what are they supposed to do about it? OTOH, they aren't exactly blameless in the current situation, though, as the one country that has the ability to help is an even worse enemy to them than the Turks: the US.

Spooky!

Chaos, death & decay, thy name is Islam.

Turkey will make a wonderful E.U. member don't you think?

The Turkish Army invaded in 1974 because the Greek rulers of Cyprus, who toppled the elected government of Archbishop Makarios in a military coup, tried to engineer "enosis," the union of Cyprus with Greece, then also ruled by a military junta/dictatorship. Once the Turkish army foiled the plans of the Greek dual dictators to join together, both military juntas were toppled, and Greece has been ruled as a democratic republic ever since.

Hm. Interesting. Never even heard of it.

#17 daughter of patriots

For 1,400 years, the Desert Nomad Moon God Death Cult has been a deadly Plague on Civilization.

Hum, I would if any of OBL's buddies (or the bums that blew-up the trains in Spain) are hiding there?

Take a look at the history here. The Greeks on the island staged a coup and were about to unite the island with Greece in 1974. Random killings of Turks had been going on since the '60s, with no acknowledgement by the Greek authorities. The Turks freaked out and wanted help. They got it. Was it perfect? No, but the Greeks have NOT covered themselves with glory here.

In 2004, an internationally-brokered agreement was put to the voters of Cyprus. It became possible when the Turkish Cypriots (and their patrons in Turkey) finally came to their senses and ousted Rolf Denktash from power, who can best be described as the Ian Paisley of Cyprus.

The agreement was approved overwhelmingly in Turkish Cyprus. The agreement was rejected in Greek Cyprus, at the instigation of politicians who want to return to the era of Greek Cyprior supremacy briefly enjoyed in 1974 when Greek nationalists led a military coup to overthrow the Cypriot elected government.

So for 30 years responsibility for the ghost city could be mostly the responsibility of the Turkish Cypriots and Turkey. Now, this responsibility rests almost solely with the Greek Cypriots.

Greece and Turkey fought each other?

I hope they both lost.

#3 Here's a great photo essay of Chernobyl today, including a huge ghost city

If only the Greeks would abandon their illegal occupation of Cyprus...

/need I?

I posted these links before, but this was an appropriate thread to re-post, in case anybody missed them:

The AKP Government's Attempt to Move Turkey From Secularism to Islamism

From the first day [of their rule,] the AKP government wanted to take over the universities and change these institutions of knowledge to conform to their own view of the world. "The goal was to turn the Republic's [state] universities into madrassas. "

Greek PM casts doubts on Turkey's EU accession

Greek Prime Minister Costas Karamanlis on Monday sent a strong message to Turkey on its European Union accession hopes, saying EU values "are not compatible" with war threats and the occupation of northern Cyprus by Turkish troops. "Turkey can become an EU member when and if it fully meets EU rules and values," Karamanlis told a parliamentary debate on foreign policy. "And these values are not compatible with (threats) and the occupation of European soil." Karamanlis' declaration marks a departure from carefully-worded Greek statements on Turkey, which in past months had expressed full backing of the neighbouring country's EU accession prospects, provided it recognises the Republic of Cyprus. Turkey is the only nation to accept the sovereignty of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, the breakaway administration formed in the wake of the 1974 invasion of the island by Turkish troops.

French insurer caught between Armenians, Turks

A powerful Turkish civil servants' trade union has decided to boycott French insurer AXA after the company agreed to indemnify heirs of victims of the 1915 Turkish massacre of Armenians, the head of the union said Monday. "We must put an end to business relations with AXA. It is not possible for us to do business with a company that tramples the rights of our country," Ahmet Aksu, the head of the Memur-Sen union, told AFP. He said that Memur-Sen had appealed to its 200,000 members not to take out policies from AXA.

Gordon's posts are right, too. The president of Cyprus, pre-coup, was an Orthodox archbishop!

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Leftist senators to comment on Iraq...soon per Fox News.

Who says that bloggers can't do original reporting?

Just FYI: The Turks are dead wrong on the Armenians, but they're at least partly right on Cyprus. The uncompromising hard-liners here are the Greeks.

I love reading military history & especially enjoy the small, forgotten wars of modern history. I would love a good book (or in-depth article/essay) about the Cyprus War - which was the only war in which NATO members were on opposing sides. So can anyone recommend any reading material?

I rememebr the Turks invaded Cyprus shortly before Nixon resinged. You never hear a thing about the Turkis occupation of part of Cyprus do you? Actually I agree with the poster Dirk Diggler who said that in a war betwen Greece and Turkey both sides should lose.

Check out the 'before and after' picture of Varosha here.

#12, necklace of shoes

Great Caesar's ghost what a waste!

No kidding.

The Turkish occupation is without imagination.

That would make the world's coolest paintball park!

(With a gorgeous beach!)

34
acutually there was no war although one was threatened. The Turkish invasion was militarily unopposed and there has been little written about it in 31 years.

#29 JohnAnnArbor
That was Archbishop Makarios.

I used to sor of like Turkey but the growing Islamists there turns me off. The Greeks ahve been anti American and somewhat anti Semitic since the end of World War II. Andreas Papadapolous was the worst.

I meant Papandreou not Papdaplous.

Hmmm, lot's of space for deported Muslims there.

#40
"I meant Papandreou not Papdaplous."

Wasn't he the dad on "Webster"?

For those of you who want to keep Turkey out of the EU, the intractable Cyprus mess is probably your best bet.

I remember being there many years ago on business. We were in Nicosia. Part of the town was cordoned off with barbed wire and guard stands. The Greeks let us walk across the no-mans land. Our hope was that we could see the Turkish side of the town. As we walked across we stopped over and around shell holes and could only imagine the battle that took place where we were standing. When we got to the Turish side we were abruptly told to leave. When we started to take pictures of the area, we were almost asaulted by the guards who leveled rifles at us and clearly motioned that we should leave and now. Such a beautiful city and such warm people. It saddens me to see these pictures today.
Bill

unhinged liberal hatred and bigotry against minority Republicans

[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

tens of liberal's racist and violent attacks

more pictures of Varosha

#44:

The Turks opened the border a while back. People can travel both ways pretty easily now.

I agree.
/useless opinion to verify repaired posting system operations.

Next on islame's list:
Ghost Paris, Ghost Amsterdam, Ghost Berlin

And if we allow it to continue:
Ghost London, Ghost Sydney, Ghost New York

and on and on and on until
Ghost Earth.

One minor point.

Seeing how the population of Cyprus is 80% Greek and the UN plan would have guaranteed permanent Turkish dominance (or parity at the very minimum) of the "Unified Cypriot government", it should be no surprise at all that the Turkish Cypriots voted 3-2 in favor and the Greek Cypriots voted 3-2 against.

Think of it this way: should Israeli Arabs be guaranteed half of all seats in the Knesset?

Remember in any MSM story they will be "Turks." No mention that they are followers of the prophet of death Mohammed (piss be upon him). Must disguise, deny, obsfucate, conceal any deed (which are all evil) by the religion of peace.

MSM = Propoganda, psychological warfare wing of any and all enemy idealogies of Western Civilization, particualary any part of Western Civilzation that is based on Chiristianity or Judeasm.

Absolutely amazing.

These people really are a cancer.

Wow.

Well the Turks are not Zionists, so what do you expect?

#53 Lady of Shalott

These people really are a cancer.

The Borg were just a nicer version of islam (not capitalizing islam anymore...it is a thing, a disease of mind a spirit)

Hey that sounds like a Rod Serling introduction.

Imagine...an earth...sterile...devoid of life, an earth once teeming with humanity, now a desolate waste! What happened? What disease of mind and spirt, what force, what inhuman alien invasion turned terra firma to a ghost planet? What madness plunged 6 billion souls...into the Twilight Zone?

A car dealership with 1974 models?

It's not a question of 'wanting' to keep Turkey out of the EU so much as recognizing Turkey can't be part of the EU as imagined.

Greece and Turkey are a prime example of population transfers between waring neighbors. The people that claim the migrant PLO-Arabs can never be moved have never looked at the history of other 20th century transfers. Here is an excellent site that contains most of the recent population transfers:

[Link: www.arts.mcgill.ca...]

Here is a brief part of the Greece/Turkey population transfer of 1923:

Document: "Convention Concerning the Exchange of Greek and Turkish Populations"

Date: January 30, 1923 Signed at Lausanne

In addition to being the first completed exchange of its magnitude, one of the most important aspects of the Convention was its compulsory nature. In contrast to previous agreements which were implemented under the pretext of "voluntary exchange," this Convention explicitly specified the compulsory nature of the population exchange. It is argued that the Greek negotiators favored a compulsory exchange because they thought that the Turkish government would not permit Greek refugee return. Therefore, in order to accommodate these large numbers of Greek refugees, they advocated the repatriation of Turks to Turkey.(63) It is argued that the Turkish negotiators proposed and advocated a compulsory exchange in order to "suppress Greek irredentism" and to replenish depleted manpower.(64)

The Convention applied to two sets of populations:(65) the Orthodox Christians/Greeks who fled Turkey after 1912 and the minority populations of Greece and Turkey who were to be transferred after the agreement was reached in 1923. The identification of this latter population to be transferred was based on religious rather than ethnic or linguistic criteria. Two populations were exempted from this transfer: the Greek Orthodox communities of Istanbul and the Muslims of Western Thrace. As non-exchangeables, they were to retain their properties. However, in practice, the rights of some of these exempted populations was not respected due to the expropriation of their properties by incoming refugees. This later became a significant issue in the work of the commission, as discussed below. The total population transferred was: 847,931 Greeks from Turkey (1912-1922), 115,000 Muslims from Greece (1914 repatriation), 200,000 Greeks from Turkey (under the 1923 Convention) and 388,146 Turks from Greece (under the 1923 Convention).(66)

42 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
No that was Alex Karras.

#50 Spiny Norman:

The percentage of Greek Cypriots vs. Turkish Cypriots is not a settled issue, as population and demographics have become political battle points. I found one site that claimed only 11% of Cypriots were Turkish, and that 115.000 of the alleged Turkish Cypriots were in fact "illegal settlers from Turkey." I'm sure Turkish Cypriot sites would dispute this claim. Given the lack of honesty on both sides of this dispute, I think the relative population of Greek and Turkish Cypriots must be taken as unknown for now.

In looking at the UN Peace Plan of 2004, it did not guarantee Turkish Cypriot dominance or parity in the whole island. It guaranteed Turkish governance of 29% of the island (down from the current 34%), allowed some repatriation, but not unlimited movement, of Greeks back to North Cyprus, and left a lot of the detailed issues of governance to future negotiations.

Gordon views democracy as a naked power grab by a majority.

It would seem the ethnic Greeks may have started the mess. From Wiki:

Post-independence
Main article: Cyprus dispute
During the 1960s, Makarios and Küçük pursued a non-aligned foreign policy, cultivating good relations with the Britain, Greece and Turkey and taking a leading role in developing the Non-Aligned Movement. However, by 1974 dissatisfaction among right-wing elements in favour of the long-term goal of Enosis - union with Greece - precipitated a coup d'etat against Makarios which was sponsored by Greece and led by the Cypriot National Guard. The new regime replaced Makarios with Nikos Giorgiades Sampson as president, and Bishop Gennadios as head of the Cypriot Orthodox Church. Diplomacy failed to resolve the crisis. Turkey invaded Cyprus by sea and air on 20 July, 1974, asserting its right to protect the Turkish Cypriot minority. Talks in Geneva involving Greece, Turkey, the United Kingdom and the two Cypriot factions failed in mid-August, and the Turks subsequently moved to gain control of 37% of the island's territory. Upwards of 200,000 Cypriots were uprooted, with Greek Cypriots forced to flee from the Turkish-occupied north and Turkish Cypriots displaced from the south. Greece made no armed response to the superior Turkish force but bitterly suspended military participation in the NATO alliance. The tension continued after Makarios returned to the presidency on December 7, 1974. He offered self-government to the Turkish minority, but rejected any solution “involving transfer of populations and amounting to partition of Cyprus.” The events of the summer of 1974 have dominated Cypriot politics ever since and have been a major point of contention between Greece and Turkey.

After 1974 there were near-continual efforts to negotiate a settlement, which met with varying levels of hostility from either side.

Turkish Cypriots proclaimed a separate state under Rauf Denktash on November 15, 1983, naming it the “Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.” The UN Security Council, in its Resolution 541 of November 18, 1983, declared the action illegal and called for withdrawal. Turkey is to date the only country to recognise the government of northern Cyprus. Conversely, it continues to reject calls to recognise the Republic of Cyprus as the sole legitimate government of Cyprus, and this political point has caused strained relations with the European Union.

Relations in the eastern Mediterranean were particularly frayed in the mid-1990s, especially after the acquisition by the Cypriot government of Russian missiles in 1997 which were capable of reaching the Turkish coast. The S-300 missiles, in fact, never arrived in Cyprus but stayed on the neighbouring island of Crete.

In April 2005, Turkish Cypriots elected Mehmet Ali Talat as their leader to succeed the retiring long-time leader Rauf Denktash, who staunchly opposed reunification. In contrast, Talat has been a keen supporter of reunification and subsequently the recently proposed "Annan Plan".

OT

Hamas: No Renewal of Truce With Israel

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip (AP) - Hamas said Wednesday the Islamic militant group would not renew an informal 9-month-old truce, which expires at the end of the year, after Israel killed one of its leading activists in an airstrike in Gaza.

The truce was brokered by Egypt which is expected to invite militant groups, including Hamas, to Cairo in coming weeks to discuss extending the agreement.

During the past nine months, violence has dropped sharply, and Hamas refrained from carrying out suicide bombings in Israel. But it has repeatedly fired rockets from Gaza at Israeli towns, in what it said was retaliation for Israeli truce violations, such as airstrikes and deadly arrest raids.

#62 Yeah, like anyone would notice...

Turks and Greeks, fighting?

No way.

Who started it?

Paging VDH.

hmmm.

notation{115.000}= European |
notation{115.000}= typo?

I see some of the usual LGF suspects insist on making this thread too a laughingstock of irrational Muslim-hatred:

Evidence? See posts #55, 53, 51, 49,

You keep using the word, but I don't think you know what it means, Gordo.

Cyprus

Create a historical claim based on your ethnicity or religion having lived there.

The TOC is useful.

Hey Gordo FOAD you left leaning POS.
Why don't you go hang out with the KOS gang? Stop visiting you turd!

Reasons for Greek-Cypriot rejection of the Annan Plan

The Plan did not include a settlement regarding the repatriation of Turkish settlers living on Greek Cypriot owned land in the 'TRNC'.

The Plan gave Turkish Cypriots a disproportionately large number of seats in Parliament (a quarter of seats in the Chamber of Deputies and half of the seats in the Senate).

The Plan did not deal in full with the demilitarisation of the 'TRNC', and Greek Cypriots felt they had no reason to believe Turkish promises concerning the withdrawal of troops.

Many Greek Cypriots interpreted the Right of Return policy as to be seriously flawed, meaning only 20% of Greek Cypriot refugees would be able to return over a time frame of 25 years, whereas Turkish Cypriots would have had full right of return.

Although the Greeks are pariah here, and for some genuine reasons, those seem to be legitmate complaints. As I said, I'm not surprised it was rejected.

Gordon

I see some of the usual LGF suspects insist on making this thread too a laughingstock of irrational Muslim-hatred:

Irrational Muslim hatred? My hatred for Islam is rational, fact-based, and notes that ALL their founding documents AND their history denotes me as an enemy, and unlike cowards and liberals I recognize my enemies.

I don't try to perform fellatio on them hoping they will slit my throat last. Protect what is yours or somebody will be going home with your wife someday soon.

What will you do pout about it not being fair, and hire a grief counselor?

OT-
[Link: www.memri.org...]

Taqiya in action.

#66 Gordon
For the record, my ill-feelings toward the islamicfacists (not to be confused with mainstream islam, and im not really sure what that is either) is well earned and well deserved.

66

Actually the "insist on making this thread too a laughingstock", started and continues with #'s 19, 24, 43, 59 and 66.

#66 Gordon

satire

Main Entry: sat·ire
Pronunciation: 'sa-"tIr
Function: noun

1 : a literary work holding up human vices and follies to ridicule or scorn

2 : trenchant wit, irony, or sarcasm used to expose and discredit vice or folly

3 : Commentary generally lost on Gordon.

synonym see WIT

Gordon

Read Sword of the Prophet if you can take some time off from cross-dressing. Recognize that Islam is the #1 enslaving force in human history.

They not only castrated their slaves, they demanded total removal of the penis...kind of like what their proxy of liberalism has done to you and yours. Now liberals are extremely angry at anyone left with balls intact.

#66 Gordon

Hey Gordon, Learn the truth about Islam!

Black George Bush

Ditto

Looks like gordo just peeked in, threw his fire bomb, and then left. We should know better than to feed the trolls.

Gordon

NOTE: Slavery still practiced today...only in Islamic countries...(see Sudan) Also Saudi Arabia still has at least 250,000 slaves. Why not organize a protest over there? You liberals are real good at organizing protests against faux enemies where you are kept safe by a military you loath.

Get some guts boy, do the right thing.

#70 Spiny

Very familiar.

Old Truism: All liberals are traitors.

New Truisim: All liberals are cowards.

Christians / Romans:

58 BC Cyprus becomes a Roman province.
51 BC Cyprus placed under the rule of Cleopatra by Julius Caesar.
30 BC Cyprus reverts to Roman rule.
45 AD Saint Paul, St Barnabas and St Mark introduce Christianity to Cyprus and convert the Roman governor Sergius Paulus

Medieval Byzantine / Arab:

395 AD Cyprus becomes part of the Byzantine Empire.
649 The Arabs invade and pillage Cyprus sacking the city of Salamis.
654 The Arabs invade Cyprus again and occupy it with a garrison of 20,000 men.
683 The Arab garrison is withdrawn after the Arabs are defeated by Constantine IV.
688 Cyprus is declared neutral.

Ottoman / Templar / um, Venetian Greek Orthodox

965 Cyprus is restored to Byzantine rule by Nicepheros Phokas
1185-1192 Cyprus independent Empire under Isaak Comnenus
1191 Richard the Lionheart sacks Famagousta and sells Cyprus to the Knights Templar.
1192 The Knights Templar sell Cyprus to Guy de Lusignan, the exiled king of Jerusalem.
1194 Amaury introduces a feudal system to Cyprus.
c.1300 The Orthodox Church of Cyprus is given religious freedom
1489 The Venetians take control of Cyprus and the Greek Orthodox Church is given full religious freedom.
1570 The Ottomans invade Cyprus. Famagusta is held under siege.

My personal favorite, give it back to Britain:

1878-1960: British occupation. The British take over the administration of the island, ceded by the Ottomans, for its strategic value, to protect their sea route to India via the Suez Canal. In exchange, Britain agrees to help Turkey against future Russian attacks.

They could upgrade the car dealerships and gas stations practically overnight.

#79 BobTheBuilder

Looks like gordo just peeked in, threw his fire bomb, and then left. We should know better than to feed the trolls.

No, he actually had some legitimate debating points at the beginning of the thread (#19, #24). Too bad he couldn't resist his worn out "laughingstock" insult.

I bet Mexicans could figure out a way to get through the fence and occupy the city.

Cyprus is a very cheap holiday for us in Israel... an overnight trip on a ship from Haifa, or a half an hour flight.. so we have gone there on family holidays during passover quite often...
Cypriots are warm, gracious people, who go nuts over children, and the island itself is lovely..
However it is wrenching to see the divided city of Nicosia, with its walled frontier with Turkey stuck in the middle,like an open wound... there is a high walled street or two of no-mans land, with all the derelict houses and shops standing in the middle as they were in 1974... stores still have rotting signs hanging out, things in the windows..even the laundry lines are the same as 1974.
standing at a special lookout point, you can see the turkish soliders patrolling their side.Its all very menacing.,., and very sad. This is truly a divided, occupied city.
travelling on the road to Nicosia, you can see a huge Turkish flag dug out of the living mountains behind the city, on the Turkish occupied side... visible for kilometers before one enters the city proper, its an aggressive painful slap- in -the -face for evry Greek Cypriot coming into the city

#26 DeliLama:

That photo essay was largely discredited. While the pictures themselves may be genuine, the context of "I took these while riding through a radioactive zone at 280 km/h" is probably false.

#86 lizzy

reaganite asked me to tell you "hi!" and he hopes everything is going well with you!

He is loading software on a new laptop and can't post right now.

# 88 A

did he show the old laptop to the new one as a warning?
:-)

Love Canal, in New York state, was a ghost suburb for a long time.

#4 Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

And others -- I am a Balkans specialist as well as a Middle East guy.

I agree that Famagusta should be returned to its Greek citizens, and perhaps so should Smyrna on the mainland.

But there is considerable hypocracy among the Greeks. In 1912, they conquered southern Macedonia and deported its entire "foreign" e.g. native, Slavic-speaking population and replaced them with Greeks.

They also conquered the Jewish citry of Salonika that same year, and in 1916, they burned it to the ground and renamed it "Thessaloniki". The native language is completely extinct -- it isn't even taught at the city's university, built on top of the city's Jewish cemetary. (Where are the graves? Don't ask a Greek -- he'll kill you.)

It's a bit too precious.

#9

is this what Paris will look like in 5 years?

who will flick the off switch on the city of light once that happens?

just wonderin'

Wait until they start removing all the 'graven images' from Paris, like when the Taliban blew up the Buddhas.

#89 Buckaroo

did he show the old laptop to the new one as a warning?

We both are laughing!

The old laptop has been taken away by our good ol' sanitation workers. The hard drive and ram are out, but we don't know if they survived the trauma.

Oh, there are some pieces in the vacuum cleaner yet!

39 Joel 11/2/2005 11:50AM PST
#29 JohnAnnArbor

That was Archbishop Makarios.

Actually, it was some Greek nationalist killer by the name of Samson, so staged a coup a few days earlier -- it gave the Turks an excuse to invade.

19 Gordon 11/2/2005 11:31AM PST

The Turkish Army invaded in 1974 because the Greek rulers of Cyprus, who toppled the elected government of Archbishop Makarios in a military coup, tried to engineer "enosis," the union of Cyprus with Greece, then also ruled by a military junta/dictatorship. Once the Turkish army foiled the plans of the Greek dual dictators to join together, both military juntas were toppled, and Greece has been ruled as a democratic republic ever since.

Actually, the Cyprus coup was just an excuse, the whole thing was prearranged. Samson was overthrown within days, but the Turkish arny never left. And why shouldn't Greeks form a united country? As long as they give Salonika back to the Jews!

Very creepy pictures. If the Euro politicians still want to roll out the welcome wagon for Turkey we may be seeing more of this in the near future.

Reminds my of [Link: www.kiddofspeed.com...]

#26 DeliLama, probably the same link although there appears to be some updates.

#70 Spiny Norman

Reasons for Greek-Cypriot rejection of the Annan Plan

#3 Kofi misunderstood and incorporated Rush lyrics.

#2 "Olives for Food" program a non-starter.

#1 Nobody takes UN Plans seriously.

#97 Black George Bush

If the Euro politicians still want to roll out the welcome wagon for Turkey we may be seeing more of this in the near future.

My understanding is that Turkey has a ten year period in which it must meet certain requirements in order to qualify for admission to the EU. However, given what we are seeing and have seen happening in Europe, one wonders if the EU will stand their ground or capitulate. With all that is going on in ten years Europe could be drastically changed...it already is!

You know I've read about this a while back, months that is, that hey couldn't still reach an agreement at the UN etc. but I had no idea that they abandoned whole cities. What a waste and to to think we have people the world over who need shelter.

All I can on this is: Get 'er Done.

This place could have been another happening Miami South Beach for 31 years, with tax revenues to match & opportunity for all.

Instead the Turks spend military dollars & deploy troops to patrol a beach--WHILE preventing US troops access to from combatting terrorists in Iraq.

This same moslem beggar will plead poverty & expect the EU & US to give them subsidies of all kinds.

LET'S STOP PAYING the Taqqiya and kitman or whatever mafiosi tax they're collecting from us.

#102 alegrias, yes, Cyprus does have perfect weather? Yet goes to waste. Now that is an environmental shame.

#26 Deli Lama

Great pics. Discredited or not, they tell one hell of a story. Thanks for the link.

#103 Roger

It's in the Mediterranean, I'm just assuming it's wonderful year round.

Turkey doesn't do much for its own people, which is why poor Turks go pick fruit in Germany and do menial work far from home.

SO it's doubly sick they expend time, energy & $$$ guarding ghost towns to deny others the use of such a glorious asset that would help a country's bottom line.

But then we've learned they'd rather destroy everything than build something.

No Greek suicide bombers?

#103 Alegrias: Go back and read the earlier posts in the thread. Even some LGF stalwarts admit that the Greeks have as much or more to do with this catastrophe than the Turks do.

But don't let actual facts bite you in the butt and deter you from your genocidal fantasies.

#26 Delilama

Very interesting pics.

I also checked out her pictures of the recent elections in the Ukraine and her pics of the Gulags.

Gordon might like those. He would feel at home there. Ahh the glory of the communmist revolution.

I was a crew member of the U.S.S. Grand Rapids stationed in the Med when this was happening. It went down shortly after the Yom Kippur war. We just watched.
Another splendid example of the ROP in action.

#9 BulgarWheat:

"Is this what Paris will look like in five years?"

Look at the photograph of the Lala Mustapha mosque in (formerly Greek) Famagusta.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Interesting, isn't it? It used to be St Nicholas' Cathedral.

Same style as Notre Dame ...

saddest thing of all is the division of an country that was once the thriving jewel of a nation-- now the north is a squalor and the south is booming economically and yet still grieving the loss of its northern portion. People uprooted, told they cannot ever think of having their property back which the Turks stole and gave to people they brought over from Turkey to POPULATE that region; such sadness.

Papadapolous and the Cypriot people, via their vote, told Annan to sod off and stuff an apple up his old wazooo when they refused to forced into accepting a Turkish dominated "split" national identity.

Huzzah Cyprus. You are not alone in your tears.

America is still worse.

/libs

Strange sights, indeed.

its the JOOOS fault

"They Might be Giants"

#115 AtlasShrugged
Back in one piece. How were the Bahamas? :)

That looks like a real occupattion, not the left's version of the Iraq "occupation."

There is a lot of mis information going on here. First of all, I am from this city and I was 12 years old when were forced to leave before the Turkish advancing troops arrived. Varosi, is just a piece of the greater city called Famagusta. Varosi is the part that is not inhabited but the rest of Famagusta is by Turkish moved from Turkey and found the homes of Greeks to live in. Varosi is empty because the Turkish side always used the city as pawn in the negotiations to return to the Greeks if the Cyprus problem was solved.

Yes, the Greek Cypriots rejected a referendum that would allow Cyprus to unite. But why did they do that? Because the terms of that referendum among others allow the Turkish troops to invade Cyprus in case of problems. Of course they rejected because nobody wants to live under the sword and fear. A post in this blog, says that Turkish were killed since 1960 without the Greek goverment acknowledgements. Would that reader who posted that comment to post the names of the Turkish who were killed? Not even the Turkish side ever came up with the names.

Another fact is the Turkey was planning the invasion of Cyprus years before it actually occured. For more info read on:
[Link: www.kypros.org...]